CS SE IT Panel C2v1 — Transcript

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1. 0:00be a helper. Um, ask for advice. Don't
2. 0:03ever be afraid to ask for advice or ask
3. 0:06opinions um from other people. So, open
4. 0:09up, create that bond with other people.
5. 0:12Um, they don't have to be your best
6. 0:14friends or best buddies and and that's
7. 0:16going to help set you up for success as
8. 0:18well.
9. 0:19Take advantage of student organizations
10. 0:22that are at ASU. I can use the example
11. 0:25of Soda, the software developers
12. 0:27association, and Amazon has a close
13. 0:30relationship with Soda. And that's just
14. 0:32one example. They're several, probably
15. 0:34dozens, if not over a hundred student
16. 0:36organizations there. Uh, but that's one
17. 0:38example where you're in this group of
18. 0:41like-minded people who are spending
19. 0:42their their limited resource, their time
20. 0:46diving deeper into software engineering.
21. 0:48In this case, they're doing more than
22. 0:50they had to do to merely get the degree.
23. 0:52They're kind of going that extra mile
24. 0:54and they're networking. They're already
25. 0:56interfacing with other people who are,
26. 0:58like I said, like-minded, but then that
27. 1:00organization helps connect them to
28. 1:03people outside of just the student body.
29. 1:06So, they get that access to Amazon
30. 1:09software engineers or software managers.
31. 1:11We go and we do tech talks and different
32. 1:13student organizations have different
33. 1:14relationships with different outside
34. 1:17organizations and companies. So give
35. 1:19that some thought because it gives you
36. 1:21that chance to be more than just a name
37. 1:24on a resume. These years are going to go
38. 1:26by very quickly and the decisions you're
39. 1:28making right now will impact what doors
40. 1:31are more easily open to you four years
41. 1:34from now versus which ones you're really
42. 1:35going to have to push your shoulder into
43. 1:37to get that door to open if you're still
44. 1:38interested in it.
45. 1:40What Tim said is amazing and fantastic
46. 1:42and excellent advice, but it doesn't
47. 1:44always have to be in your major as well.
48. 1:46If you have an interest, look for those
49. 1:49clubs, too. ASU has so many
50. 1:51opportunities. They have inter mural
51. 1:53sports. They have everything. Those are
52. 1:55also opportunities to network. And it
53. 1:57might not be in your field, but it's
54. 1:58networking with other people. Everybody
55. 2:00knows somebody. I'll add one more to it.
56. 2:04Uh I love seeing students who have taken
57. 2:06the time to volunteer. If you are
58. 2:09willing to put your time into
59. 2:10volunteering, you're thinking about
60. 2:13somebody else or some cause that's
61. 2:16bigger than you. And if I see somebody
62. 2:19with extensive volunteer work on their
63. 2:22resume, I find that it often correlates
64. 2:25to the kind of person who will also put
65. 2:28themselves in somebody else's shoes when
66. 2:30they're helping a customer. I don't know
67. 2:32that I've ever met somebody who's taken
68. 2:34the time to do that and doesn't feel
69. 2:35rewarded by it. And I think people who
70. 2:37haven't done it before, it's hard to
71. 2:39believe how good it actually feels when
72. 2:41you help somebody else who needed
73. 2:43something.
74. 2:44Doing things, whatever it is that you
75. 2:45volunteer for, playing sports, joining
76. 2:48these clubs, you're learning about
77. 2:50yourself and you're learning about what
78. 2:52your limits are and you're learning
79. 2:54hopefully most importantly that there
80. 2:55are no limits. They're only the ones
81. 2:57that imposing yourself. But the last
82. 2:59part of that question, what if they
83. 3:01can't get an internship? I think of this
84. 3:03question as a what if someone tells me
85. 3:05no or what if I don't meet the
86. 3:06requirements for this job posting.
87. 3:08That's all nonsense. It's made up. If
88. 3:11you want something, you have to attack
89. 3:13it if you're actually passionate about
90. 3:14it. Going back to what Tim said before
91. 3:16about kind of showing initiative and
92. 3:18volunteering for things. I can guarantee
93. 3:20if I got somebody in my office that they
94. 3:23applied online or maybe they didn't
95. 3:24apply online at all. They just came in
96. 3:25and said, "Hey, who's your director for
97. 3:27technology? I'd love to talk to them. I
98. 3:29I'm passionate about this thing. I'm a
99. 3:30one-year student. I don't have any real
100. 3:31world experience yet. Are there any
101. 3:32opportunities for me? Those kind of
102. 3:34people are going to get what they
103. 3:36they're going to find um how do you
104. 3:39phrase it, Tim? Doors more easily opened
105. 3:41for people that have this initiative and
106. 3:42take this initiative. And when the
107. 3:44interns come to Amazon, one of the
108. 3:47things that often takes some time for
109. 3:49them to adjust to, and I had to adjust
110. 3:51to it myself, was getting out of the
111. 3:53mindset of I'm in a classroom, I have a
112. 3:56clear rubric for how I'm going to be
113. 3:58graded, and I need to just kind of do
114. 4:01the things I'm told to do. Say, so you
115. 4:04have 12 weeks to not only do the minimum
116. 4:06requirements, but try to make it as good
117. 4:08as possible, as rich, featurerich as
118. 4:11possible as well. And if you come in
119. 4:13with that mindset, then I think you're
120. 4:15going to be inquisitive. You're going to
121. 4:17show that you're curious. You're going
122. 4:19to ask those customer- centric
123. 4:20questions, and that's going to lead to a
124. 4:22much better experience overall than if
125. 4:25you come as kind of a blank slate
126. 4:27waiting to be told what to do.
127. 4:30What if there isn't an internship?
128. 4:32There's a lot of other things you can
129. 4:33do. First of all, get a regular job in
130. 4:37the summer instead of an internship. And
131. 4:39at that job though, look for ways to
132. 4:42improve what's going on. Perhaps they
133. 4:44have a supply chain and and you look how
134. 4:46their supply chain runs. Ask questions
135. 4:48and be curious for that job. Even if and
136. 4:52even if it's at uh McDonald's, there's a
137. 4:54huge supply chain for McDonald's. So,
138. 4:57you can learn about that because
139. 4:59technology runs supply chains and and
140. 5:01there's many other jobs. And then we go
141. 5:03back to volunteering. Um we if it says,
142. 5:06"Oh, you need two years experience."
143. 5:07Just like Zach said that that's
144. 5:09flexible. U but you could say I don't
145. 5:12have exactly two years of experience but
146. 5:14I got three months working with this
147. 5:15charity and I helped them build a
148. 5:17database so they so they did XYZ much
149. 5:20smoother. So used all those little those
150. 5:24little goals and those little wins and
151. 5:27build them together to build something.
152. 5:29In the same vein there's tech you
153. 5:32mentioned this earlier technology is
154. 5:33everywhere. It's everywhere. So instead
155. 5:36of being like, "Oh man, I didn't get
156. 5:37that internship at Google or or Apple or
157. 5:40Microsoft or Amazon, Tim, I didn't get
158. 5:43that internship. What am I going to do?"
159. 5:45Well, there's tens of thousands if not
160. 5:47more mom and pop shops in the valley,
161. 5:50restaurants that have POS systems, uh
162. 5:53dry cleaning company that has a a
163. 5:54database to maintain their c whatever.
164. 5:56There's technology everywhere and these
165. 5:58opportunities are everywhere. And these
166. 5:59folks don't get internships. They'd
167. 6:01probably love to have someone come in
168. 6:02and be like, "Hey, you know how this
169. 6:03database thing works? Oh no, drag this.
170. 6:05Boom.