CRYPTO SCAMMER Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX) Given RIDICULOUS Interview! — Transcript
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- 0:00one of the the letters I got I want to
- 0:03read to you Sam
- 0:04because it's from a gentleman who said
- 0:07that he lost his life savings
- 0:09and the subject line is sandbankment
- 0:11freed stole two million dollars from me
- 0:14says Andrew can you please ask SPF why
- 0:18he decided to steal my life savings
- 0:21and the 10 billion dollars more from
- 0:23customers to give
- 0:25to his hedge fund Alameda
- 0:32foreign
- 0:34how's everybody doing my name is Anthony
- 0:36Brown Logan and today we got to talk
- 0:38about this ridiculous interview that New
- 0:40York Times gave to Sam Benjamin freed of
- 0:43FTX now if you don't know who SBF is or
- 0:47FTX is or what's going on let's back up
- 0:51a little bit before we get to the actual
- 0:52interview and if you want to see the
- 0:53full hour plus long interview without my
- 0:55commentary the link as always will be in
- 0:58the description box below first things
- 1:01first what's going on here well FTX is
- 1:05or was a crypto exchange platform so
- 1:09basically here's how it would work you
- 1:11would give FTX cash money and they were
- 1:15supposed to invest it into
- 1:16cryptocurrency they had their own coin I
- 1:18forget what it was called the SPF coin I
- 1:20don't know what it was but they had
- 1:22their own main coin they would invest in
- 1:24and then other coins and that's how it
- 1:26would work and money should be safe
- 1:28there you had a bunch of celebrities
- 1:29involved with it Tom Brady gazelle
- 1:32blanching a lot of big name people were
- 1:34involved it the company at one point was
- 1:38worth 40 billion dollars would it be 40
- 1:42billion dollars it's now worth 100 000
- 1:45SPF was worth about 25 billion himself
- 1:48he now has the 100 Grand on the credit
- 1:51card and that's it
- 1:52so if you invested into FTX your money's
- 1:57pretty much gone and it probably won't
- 1:58come back now the reason why it's not in
- 2:01the penitentiary right now for fraud and
- 2:03theft or whatever it is because he's
- 2:05actually in the Bahamas not the US okay
- 2:08and as a matter of fact I think his
- 2:09company was incorporated in the Bahamas
- 2:12to prevent U.S jurisdiction
- 2:16funny how that works when that was
- 2:18already like that before the whole
- 2:19alleged fraud happened now let's get
- 2:22into the clips of course again the full
- 2:25theme will be in the description and
- 2:27these clips will be in the description
- 2:28as well just to have like little quick
- 2:30sound bites but here's a very bizarre
- 2:33introduction where you actually got
- 2:35Applause from the crowd
- 2:37on behalf of everybody here and on
- 2:38behalf of the public I want to thank you
- 2:40for engaging in it at a time in truth
- 2:42when I know you've been advised not to
- 2:44so thank you so very very much
- 2:46um thank you
- 2:49like no you don't get no applause you
- 2:51don't get no applause just like look man
- 2:53people's whole life savings are just
- 2:56gone totally gun and throughout this
- 2:59interview they'll try to make it be like
- 3:01oh it was a mistake it was an accident
- 3:02and I just got caught up in it and
- 3:05really screwed up we're going to talk
- 3:07about that and we're going to talk about
- 3:08how that's just BS all right but that's
- 3:11that's the first clip and here is a
- 3:14little bit of a longer win let's check
- 3:15it out
- 3:16because right now are you in the Bahamas
- 3:18because you think you can't leave
- 3:21uh no I'm I'm in the Bahamas I know I I
- 3:24have been in in the Bahamas for the last
- 3:26year and you know I've been running FTX
- 3:28from the Bahamas you know been running
- 3:30FTX digital Market our you know primary
- 3:33operating entity down here
- 3:35um you know with with you know Bohemian
- 3:37uh regulators and uh you know others in
- 3:40in in in contact and uh you know right
- 3:45now I'm you know I'm looking to be
- 3:47helpful anywhere I can with any of the
- 3:49global entities that uh you know that
- 3:52would want my help do you think you
- 3:54could come to the United States or go
- 3:56elsewhere no I I I to my knowledge I
- 3:59could to my knowledge you you said that
- 4:02quite a bit I understand this understand
- 4:03who this guy is his parents are both
- 4:05lawyers his parents are both lawyers
- 4:07they teach law and wait Stanford or MIT
- 4:10or something like that so he knows how
- 4:14to use lawyer lawyery language because
- 4:16he knows what he's saying right now
- 4:17could get brought up in court to my
- 4:19knowledge oh I didn't know not to my
- 4:21knowledge so he could say possible
- 4:23deniability oh well I didn't know that
- 4:25what I was saying was incorrect or I
- 4:27didn't give a declarative statement
- 4:28you'll see that quite a bit throughout
- 4:30these clips
- 4:31have you thought about doing that
- 4:34I I've thought about it and
- 4:37um you know I mean I mean I've seen a
- 4:40lot of the uh obviously all the hearings
- 4:43that have been happening I you know
- 4:45would not be surprised if you know
- 4:47sometime I am you know up there talking
- 4:50about what happened to our
- 4:51Representatives or
- 4:53um you know wherever else is is most
- 4:55appropriate How concerned are you about
- 4:57criminal liability at this point
- 5:00so I don't think that I mean obviously I
- 5:02don't I don't personally think that I
- 5:04have uh you know
- 5:06but I I think the real answer is that's
- 5:10not
- 5:11it sounds weird to say but but I think
- 5:13the real answer is that's not what I'm
- 5:15focusing on
- 5:17um it's uh there's gonna be a time and a
- 5:21place for me to
- 5:22sort of think about
- 5:25myself and my own future but I gotta
- 5:27pause right here the way this guy's
- 5:29talking
- 5:29does he always speak this way I would
- 5:32not give this guy one red Cent on my
- 5:33money people gave him their whole life
- 5:35savings at a certain point it's like
- 5:37well worst personal responsibility yeah
- 5:39I'm not going to just game on my life
- 5:40savings on this guy I'm sorry I'm not
- 5:42going to do it now I'm not trying to
- 5:44victim blame but I'm just saying for
- 5:46future reference look at who you're
- 5:47giving your money to before you give it
- 5:49to him and note the same way I would not
- 5:51give some uh guy some dope boy in the
- 5:55street some money to quote unquote flip
- 5:56I would not give this nincompoop one red
- 5:59scent of my heart earned US dollars I
- 6:02don't think this is it like
- 6:05right now I mean look I I've had a bad
- 6:08month
- 6:09um oh you've had a bad month okay this
- 6:11is nothing and the crowd laughs what
- 6:14kind of crowd is this like who are these
- 6:15people in the crowd what what is going
- 6:17on here is that funny
- 6:19that's not what matters here like what
- 6:22matters here is the millions of
- 6:25customers what matters here is all the
- 6:28stakeholders in FTX uh who who got hurt
- 6:31and and trying to do everything I can to
- 6:34help them out and
- 6:36you know as long as that's the case like
- 6:39I don't think that I don't think that
- 6:42you know what happens with me is the
- 6:44important part of that and I don't think
- 6:46that's what it makes sense for me to be
- 6:48focused man talking about having
- 6:49somebody hard to follow him like this
- 6:51guy just I thought Kanye was hard to
- 6:54follow when he speaks but this guy right
- 6:56here good grief man can you form a
- 6:58complete sentence without all the extra
- 7:00stuff off of the the filler words and
- 7:04everything else I mean good night all
- 7:06right so here we go see okay here's
- 7:08something else here's another clue the
- 7:10thing that he was doing allegedly was
- 7:12taking money from FTX and putting that
- 7:15to his hedge Point called Alameda okay
- 7:18which is two different two different
- 7:19entities which is something you
- 7:21shouldn't be doing the money for FTX
- 7:24should be going to work customers
- 7:27portfolio of coins of digital currency
- 7:31it shouldn't be going to another entity
- 7:34called Alameda a hedge fund which they
- 7:37did not sign up for
- 7:39you see that's not your commingling
- 7:41funds and you'll hear the way he speaks
- 7:43about it here again more lawyer language
- 7:46I feel pretty embarrassed to have made
- 7:50um I mean a lot of these are but I
- 7:52substantially underestimated what the
- 7:53scale of market crash could look like
- 7:55and what the speed of it could look like
- 7:57and how correlated but does that just
- 7:59suggests that you were just hoping
- 8:01perhaps hoping against hope that this
- 8:03would all work out and that nobody
- 8:05therefore would realize what this
- 8:07co-mingling was all about that's called
- 8:10a punches Kingdom basically or that's
- 8:12like the spirit of a ponzi's game you
- 8:14want to keep getting new money in to pay
- 8:16old money out
- 8:19and by the way the way this whole thing
- 8:21unraveled there was another crypto firm
- 8:23I forget what it's called I think it's
- 8:25in China or it has a Chinese executive
- 8:26Chinese CEO
- 8:29um they pulled their
- 8:32position on a bunch of coins that
- 8:37um FTX had
- 8:39and once they did that it kind of
- 8:40created a run on the quote unquote Bank
- 8:42a lot of the big players in FTX took
- 8:45that money out so once the big players
- 8:47were dying the big money could no longer
- 8:50pay the smaller money so the whole thing
- 8:53fell apart it was upon two skiing
- 8:55essentially
- 8:58so
- 8:59it's not how I viewed it and in
- 9:02particular again
- 9:04most of the firms had marching positions
- 9:06most of the firms had boroughs on FTX
- 9:09the problem here this one was this was
- 9:12too big it was I was surprised by the
- 9:15size that's too big it's it's assets
- 9:17that look it sounds like there were
- 9:20assets that may have been allowable to
- 9:22be loaned
- 9:24but then there were assets that weren't
- 9:25allowable to be loan no
- 9:28so
- 9:30uh I'm still looking into the details of
- 9:33some pieces of this but
- 9:35I do think that
- 9:36um in addition to
- 9:39um what I had seen as sort of a lot of
- 9:40the standard borrows here that
- 9:45um we scroll back to 2018
- 9:48uh or to 2019 I guess
- 9:51um
- 9:52FKS didn't have bank accounts it didn't
- 9:55have any bank accounts globally
- 9:56we were trying to get them
- 9:58um
- 9:59it took us a while took us a few years
- 10:03um and
- 10:04you know there are customers who wanted
- 10:05to wire money to FTX
- 10:07and so I think in the meantime
- 10:10um some of them were wiring money to
- 10:11Alameda research to get credited on it
- 10:14and uh I think that was a substance is
- 10:18that how that works though like if I if
- 10:19I was to go to ftx.com or whatever the
- 10:21website was and say hey you know what I
- 10:23want to invest in crypto would I just be
- 10:26like would I bypass that and go to your
- 10:28your hedge fund and be like hey I'll
- 10:30give money to Alameda and then Alameda
- 10:33would give money to FTX and then they'll
- 10:35invest it that way that'll make no sense
- 10:37at all how are you going to be able to
- 10:38make sure that that whole exchange
- 10:40happens properly and there's no fraud
- 10:42involved I I call BS on that or maybe
- 10:45they did that but for certain kind of
- 10:46people which is a workaround but not an
- 10:49ethical or legal workaround if it's
- 10:52legal I can't tell it doesn't appear to
- 10:53be legal because if I invest in the
- 10:55hedge fund I invest in the hedge fund
- 10:57not
- 10:58ftas crypto exchange if I invest in FTX
- 11:01crypto exchange I invested there not a
- 11:04hedge fund so that's not how that should
- 11:06work let's keep on going here the actual
- 11:08song uh and I think that the ftx's
- 11:12internal accounting did correctly
- 11:14effectively try to debit Alameda uh for
- 11:17sure so it's fun well how about the
- 11:20money took off real estate you took out
- 11:21300 million dollars of real estate you
- 11:22got a whole real estate portfolio like
- 11:24BLM but to a much higher level so where
- 11:27the money come from for that what's it
- 11:29from FTX Alameda straight from the
- 11:32customers wiring you money in your
- 11:34personal account how did that work
- 11:36because you took out personal money and
- 11:38put it into your own pocket as well into
- 11:39your own personal pocket right you dress
- 11:42bummy but you live lavishly let's keep
- 11:44on going but it didn't happen in the
- 11:47primary account and so it didn't happen
- 11:49it you know it created a discrepancy
- 11:52between the display of the account and
- 11:54what was really going on there and
- 11:58um I and I'm still looking into exactly
- 12:00how that yeah I call BS I call BS what
- 12:04what are your lawyers telling you right
- 12:06now
- 12:07are they suggesting this is a good idea
- 12:10for you to be speaking
- 12:12they're very much not
- 12:14um uh and uh I mean you know the classic
- 12:18advice Rays don't say anything uh you
- 12:21know recede into a whole uh and that's
- 12:25not who I am I mean it's not who I want
- 12:27to be I don't have
- 12:29I I ain't got a duty to talk to people I
- 12:31have a duty to explain what happened and
- 12:33I think I have a duty to do everything I
- 12:35can to try and do what's right if there
- 12:38is anything I can do to to try and help
- 12:41customers out here and uh
- 12:44okay we got some more clips
- 12:48here's one it's pretty interesting
- 12:51today
- 12:53I I was as truthful as as I as you know
- 12:58I'm knowledgeable to be there's there's
- 13:00see there were the lower language I'm
- 13:03truthful as I'm not eligible to be wow
- 13:06talking about straight from your parents
- 13:08right straight from your parents saying
- 13:09a book straight from the uh your parents
- 13:11classroom okay your lawyer parents
- 13:14there's some things I wish I knew more
- 13:15about but yes I was so let me ask you
- 13:18this do you agree that
- 13:19over time you also lied
- 13:24to I agree that I lied
- 13:27I don't know if times when I divide I
- 13:30think
- 13:31look there are certainly times when I
- 13:33was acting as a
- 13:36um as a representative as a marketer for
- 13:39FTS and when I was looking for uh how
- 13:43can I you know in a way which is
- 13:46today wow okay yeah a couple more here
- 13:51um I can put the rest of these in the
- 13:54Box
- 13:54definitely that's the one I was playing
- 13:56earlier about the the whole life savings
- 13:58thing let's play this last one right
- 14:00here and then the rest will be in the
- 14:01description if you want to see anything
- 14:02full
- 14:04um hour plus long interview and also
- 14:05these clips
- 14:07um there have been pictures taken of
- 14:09something called uh msam uh which
- 14:11apparently increases levels of dope into
- 14:13the brain it's actually for Parkinson's
- 14:15were you taking that it's a patch
- 14:18so I it it's funny hearing this I I had
- 14:22my first sip of alcohol after my 21st
- 14:25birthday and I think I I have maybe half
- 14:27a glass of uh of alcohol a year roughly
- 14:31speaking there were no wild parties here
- 14:34when we had parties we'd play board
- 14:36games and you know 20 of people would
- 14:39have three quarters of a beer each or
- 14:41something like that
- 14:43um and you know the rest of us would
- 14:44would not drink anything now here's
- 14:47something else there was allegations
- 14:49that there was a bunch of you know
- 14:51fornicating going on uh a throuple or 10
- 14:55people in a relationship and that kind
- 14:57of thing that was the rumor also
- 15:00um the person or the girl his girlfriend
- 15:04or something some kind of girl that's
- 15:06close to him was over at Alameda in
- 15:09charge of that and she was on drugs so
- 15:13when this whole story comes out when all
- 15:15the information comes out
- 15:17there's going to be a lot more than what
- 15:19you're trying to let on right here a lot
- 15:20more I'll leave that right there again
- 15:23all other Clips in the full interview
- 15:25will be in the description
- 15:28but that's that
- 15:29um and the reason why he's not in the
- 15:32penitentiary right now is because he's
- 15:33in the Bahamas so there's some issues
- 15:35right there is he going to get
- 15:36extradited is he going to get charged by
- 15:38the federal rallies can they charge them
- 15:40because the company was in the Bahamas
- 15:42at the U.S so you're dealing with some
- 15:44kind of things over there like you got
- 15:46to work through all of that to figure
- 15:48out how to get them back to the US and
- 15:49then what are you going to charge them
- 15:51on is it going to be fraud is it like
- 15:53what's the actual
- 15:55charge and penalty and
- 15:58what not going to be but as I close I
- 16:01want to say this cryptocurrency I'm not
- 16:03really a fan of the blockchain
- 16:05technology I think I'm a fan of that and
- 16:08the way that that works but as far as uh
- 16:10crypto
- 16:12um and just trying to invest into it to
- 16:15make money it's it's kind of like
- 16:16gambling really you might be able to
- 16:17make money sure
- 16:19especially on bitcoin ethereum some of
- 16:21your bigger coins but these
- 16:23quote-unquote s coins the the bad coins
- 16:25the the random ridiculous nonsense you
- 16:27see on Twitter occasionally I would not
- 16:30put one ratchet into it these uh crypto
- 16:32exchanges I don't want to invest any
- 16:35cash into that and I think what's going
- 16:37on right here with f with SBF and FTX
- 16:40should be an example of why the whole
- 16:44thing with crypto investing might not be
- 16:46a very good idea but I think I'll leave
- 16:48that right there for now and what said
- 16:50you how do you feel about this interview
- 16:51from Sam binkerman freed over on the New
- 16:55York Times with MSNBC correspondent
- 16:57Andrew Ross Sorkin whatever your
- 16:59thoughts are let me know in the comments
- 17:00below you guys know where I'm at this is
- 17:02a cautionary tale about cryptocurrency
- 17:04and about investing about some of these
- 17:06guys that say they have your best
- 17:08interests at heart but do they really
- 17:09where is money really going you're
- 17:11giving money to this guy talking about
- 17:12hey invest that into crypto keep my
- 17:15money safe but then he puts it over into
- 17:17a hedge fund what part of the game is
- 17:19that
- 17:21whatever your thoughts are please let me
- 17:23know in the comments below and that's
- 17:25all I gotta say for this video if you
- 17:27like what you heard please comment rate
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- 17:31And subscribe
- 17:34peace
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