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CRYPTO SCAMMER Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX) Given RIDICULOUS Interview! — Transcript

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  1. 0:00one of the the letters I got I want to
  2. 0:03read to you Sam
  3. 0:04because it's from a gentleman who said
  4. 0:07that he lost his life savings
  5. 0:09and the subject line is sandbankment
  6. 0:11freed stole two million dollars from me
  7. 0:14says Andrew can you please ask SPF why
  8. 0:18he decided to steal my life savings
  9. 0:21and the 10 billion dollars more from
  10. 0:23customers to give
  11. 0:25to his hedge fund Alameda
  12. 0:32foreign
  13. 0:34how's everybody doing my name is Anthony
  14. 0:36Brown Logan and today we got to talk
  15. 0:38about this ridiculous interview that New
  16. 0:40York Times gave to Sam Benjamin freed of
  17. 0:43FTX now if you don't know who SBF is or
  18. 0:47FTX is or what's going on let's back up
  19. 0:51a little bit before we get to the actual
  20. 0:52interview and if you want to see the
  21. 0:53full hour plus long interview without my
  22. 0:55commentary the link as always will be in
  23. 0:58the description box below first things
  24. 1:01first what's going on here well FTX is
  25. 1:05or was a crypto exchange platform so
  26. 1:09basically here's how it would work you
  27. 1:11would give FTX cash money and they were
  28. 1:15supposed to invest it into
  29. 1:16cryptocurrency they had their own coin I
  30. 1:18forget what it was called the SPF coin I
  31. 1:20don't know what it was but they had
  32. 1:22their own main coin they would invest in
  33. 1:24and then other coins and that's how it
  34. 1:26would work and money should be safe
  35. 1:28there you had a bunch of celebrities
  36. 1:29involved with it Tom Brady gazelle
  37. 1:32blanching a lot of big name people were
  38. 1:34involved it the company at one point was
  39. 1:38worth 40 billion dollars would it be 40
  40. 1:42billion dollars it's now worth 100 000
  41. 1:45SPF was worth about 25 billion himself
  42. 1:48he now has the 100 Grand on the credit
  43. 1:51card and that's it
  44. 1:52so if you invested into FTX your money's
  45. 1:57pretty much gone and it probably won't
  46. 1:58come back now the reason why it's not in
  47. 2:01the penitentiary right now for fraud and
  48. 2:03theft or whatever it is because he's
  49. 2:05actually in the Bahamas not the US okay
  50. 2:08and as a matter of fact I think his
  51. 2:09company was incorporated in the Bahamas
  52. 2:12to prevent U.S jurisdiction
  53. 2:16funny how that works when that was
  54. 2:18already like that before the whole
  55. 2:19alleged fraud happened now let's get
  56. 2:22into the clips of course again the full
  57. 2:25theme will be in the description and
  58. 2:27these clips will be in the description
  59. 2:28as well just to have like little quick
  60. 2:30sound bites but here's a very bizarre
  61. 2:33introduction where you actually got
  62. 2:35Applause from the crowd
  63. 2:37on behalf of everybody here and on
  64. 2:38behalf of the public I want to thank you
  65. 2:40for engaging in it at a time in truth
  66. 2:42when I know you've been advised not to
  67. 2:44so thank you so very very much
  68. 2:46um thank you
  69. 2:49like no you don't get no applause you
  70. 2:51don't get no applause just like look man
  71. 2:53people's whole life savings are just
  72. 2:56gone totally gun and throughout this
  73. 2:59interview they'll try to make it be like
  74. 3:01oh it was a mistake it was an accident
  75. 3:02and I just got caught up in it and
  76. 3:05really screwed up we're going to talk
  77. 3:07about that and we're going to talk about
  78. 3:08how that's just BS all right but that's
  79. 3:11that's the first clip and here is a
  80. 3:14little bit of a longer win let's check
  81. 3:15it out
  82. 3:16because right now are you in the Bahamas
  83. 3:18because you think you can't leave
  84. 3:21uh no I'm I'm in the Bahamas I know I I
  85. 3:24have been in in the Bahamas for the last
  86. 3:26year and you know I've been running FTX
  87. 3:28from the Bahamas you know been running
  88. 3:30FTX digital Market our you know primary
  89. 3:33operating entity down here
  90. 3:35um you know with with you know Bohemian
  91. 3:37uh regulators and uh you know others in
  92. 3:40in in in contact and uh you know right
  93. 3:45now I'm you know I'm looking to be
  94. 3:47helpful anywhere I can with any of the
  95. 3:49global entities that uh you know that
  96. 3:52would want my help do you think you
  97. 3:54could come to the United States or go
  98. 3:56elsewhere no I I I to my knowledge I
  99. 3:59could to my knowledge you you said that
  100. 4:02quite a bit I understand this understand
  101. 4:03who this guy is his parents are both
  102. 4:05lawyers his parents are both lawyers
  103. 4:07they teach law and wait Stanford or MIT
  104. 4:10or something like that so he knows how
  105. 4:14to use lawyer lawyery language because
  106. 4:16he knows what he's saying right now
  107. 4:17could get brought up in court to my
  108. 4:19knowledge oh I didn't know not to my
  109. 4:21knowledge so he could say possible
  110. 4:23deniability oh well I didn't know that
  111. 4:25what I was saying was incorrect or I
  112. 4:27didn't give a declarative statement
  113. 4:28you'll see that quite a bit throughout
  114. 4:30these clips
  115. 4:31have you thought about doing that
  116. 4:34I I've thought about it and
  117. 4:37um you know I mean I mean I've seen a
  118. 4:40lot of the uh obviously all the hearings
  119. 4:43that have been happening I you know
  120. 4:45would not be surprised if you know
  121. 4:47sometime I am you know up there talking
  122. 4:50about what happened to our
  123. 4:51Representatives or
  124. 4:53um you know wherever else is is most
  125. 4:55appropriate How concerned are you about
  126. 4:57criminal liability at this point
  127. 5:00so I don't think that I mean obviously I
  128. 5:02don't I don't personally think that I
  129. 5:04have uh you know
  130. 5:06but I I think the real answer is that's
  131. 5:10not
  132. 5:11it sounds weird to say but but I think
  133. 5:13the real answer is that's not what I'm
  134. 5:15focusing on
  135. 5:17um it's uh there's gonna be a time and a
  136. 5:21place for me to
  137. 5:22sort of think about
  138. 5:25myself and my own future but I gotta
  139. 5:27pause right here the way this guy's
  140. 5:29talking
  141. 5:29does he always speak this way I would
  142. 5:32not give this guy one red Cent on my
  143. 5:33money people gave him their whole life
  144. 5:35savings at a certain point it's like
  145. 5:37well worst personal responsibility yeah
  146. 5:39I'm not going to just game on my life
  147. 5:40savings on this guy I'm sorry I'm not
  148. 5:42going to do it now I'm not trying to
  149. 5:44victim blame but I'm just saying for
  150. 5:46future reference look at who you're
  151. 5:47giving your money to before you give it
  152. 5:49to him and note the same way I would not
  153. 5:51give some uh guy some dope boy in the
  154. 5:55street some money to quote unquote flip
  155. 5:56I would not give this nincompoop one red
  156. 5:59scent of my heart earned US dollars I
  157. 6:02don't think this is it like
  158. 6:05right now I mean look I I've had a bad
  159. 6:08month
  160. 6:09um oh you've had a bad month okay this
  161. 6:11is nothing and the crowd laughs what
  162. 6:14kind of crowd is this like who are these
  163. 6:15people in the crowd what what is going
  164. 6:17on here is that funny
  165. 6:19that's not what matters here like what
  166. 6:22matters here is the millions of
  167. 6:25customers what matters here is all the
  168. 6:28stakeholders in FTX uh who who got hurt
  169. 6:31and and trying to do everything I can to
  170. 6:34help them out and
  171. 6:36you know as long as that's the case like
  172. 6:39I don't think that I don't think that
  173. 6:42you know what happens with me is the
  174. 6:44important part of that and I don't think
  175. 6:46that's what it makes sense for me to be
  176. 6:48focused man talking about having
  177. 6:49somebody hard to follow him like this
  178. 6:51guy just I thought Kanye was hard to
  179. 6:54follow when he speaks but this guy right
  180. 6:56here good grief man can you form a
  181. 6:58complete sentence without all the extra
  182. 7:00stuff off of the the filler words and
  183. 7:04everything else I mean good night all
  184. 7:06right so here we go see okay here's
  185. 7:08something else here's another clue the
  186. 7:10thing that he was doing allegedly was
  187. 7:12taking money from FTX and putting that
  188. 7:15to his hedge Point called Alameda okay
  189. 7:18which is two different two different
  190. 7:19entities which is something you
  191. 7:21shouldn't be doing the money for FTX
  192. 7:24should be going to work customers
  193. 7:27portfolio of coins of digital currency
  194. 7:31it shouldn't be going to another entity
  195. 7:34called Alameda a hedge fund which they
  196. 7:37did not sign up for
  197. 7:39you see that's not your commingling
  198. 7:41funds and you'll hear the way he speaks
  199. 7:43about it here again more lawyer language
  200. 7:46I feel pretty embarrassed to have made
  201. 7:50um I mean a lot of these are but I
  202. 7:52substantially underestimated what the
  203. 7:53scale of market crash could look like
  204. 7:55and what the speed of it could look like
  205. 7:57and how correlated but does that just
  206. 7:59suggests that you were just hoping
  207. 8:01perhaps hoping against hope that this
  208. 8:03would all work out and that nobody
  209. 8:05therefore would realize what this
  210. 8:07co-mingling was all about that's called
  211. 8:10a punches Kingdom basically or that's
  212. 8:12like the spirit of a ponzi's game you
  213. 8:14want to keep getting new money in to pay
  214. 8:16old money out
  215. 8:19and by the way the way this whole thing
  216. 8:21unraveled there was another crypto firm
  217. 8:23I forget what it's called I think it's
  218. 8:25in China or it has a Chinese executive
  219. 8:26Chinese CEO
  220. 8:29um they pulled their
  221. 8:32position on a bunch of coins that
  222. 8:37um FTX had
  223. 8:39and once they did that it kind of
  224. 8:40created a run on the quote unquote Bank
  225. 8:42a lot of the big players in FTX took
  226. 8:45that money out so once the big players
  227. 8:47were dying the big money could no longer
  228. 8:50pay the smaller money so the whole thing
  229. 8:53fell apart it was upon two skiing
  230. 8:55essentially
  231. 8:58so
  232. 8:59it's not how I viewed it and in
  233. 9:02particular again
  234. 9:04most of the firms had marching positions
  235. 9:06most of the firms had boroughs on FTX
  236. 9:09the problem here this one was this was
  237. 9:12too big it was I was surprised by the
  238. 9:15size that's too big it's it's assets
  239. 9:17that look it sounds like there were
  240. 9:20assets that may have been allowable to
  241. 9:22be loaned
  242. 9:24but then there were assets that weren't
  243. 9:25allowable to be loan no
  244. 9:28so
  245. 9:30uh I'm still looking into the details of
  246. 9:33some pieces of this but
  247. 9:35I do think that
  248. 9:36um in addition to
  249. 9:39um what I had seen as sort of a lot of
  250. 9:40the standard borrows here that
  251. 9:45um we scroll back to 2018
  252. 9:48uh or to 2019 I guess
  253. 9:51um
  254. 9:52FKS didn't have bank accounts it didn't
  255. 9:55have any bank accounts globally
  256. 9:56we were trying to get them
  257. 9:58um
  258. 9:59it took us a while took us a few years
  259. 10:03um and
  260. 10:04you know there are customers who wanted
  261. 10:05to wire money to FTX
  262. 10:07and so I think in the meantime
  263. 10:10um some of them were wiring money to
  264. 10:11Alameda research to get credited on it
  265. 10:14and uh I think that was a substance is
  266. 10:18that how that works though like if I if
  267. 10:19I was to go to ftx.com or whatever the
  268. 10:21website was and say hey you know what I
  269. 10:23want to invest in crypto would I just be
  270. 10:26like would I bypass that and go to your
  271. 10:28your hedge fund and be like hey I'll
  272. 10:30give money to Alameda and then Alameda
  273. 10:33would give money to FTX and then they'll
  274. 10:35invest it that way that'll make no sense
  275. 10:37at all how are you going to be able to
  276. 10:38make sure that that whole exchange
  277. 10:40happens properly and there's no fraud
  278. 10:42involved I I call BS on that or maybe
  279. 10:45they did that but for certain kind of
  280. 10:46people which is a workaround but not an
  281. 10:49ethical or legal workaround if it's
  282. 10:52legal I can't tell it doesn't appear to
  283. 10:53be legal because if I invest in the
  284. 10:55hedge fund I invest in the hedge fund
  285. 10:57not
  286. 10:58ftas crypto exchange if I invest in FTX
  287. 11:01crypto exchange I invested there not a
  288. 11:04hedge fund so that's not how that should
  289. 11:06work let's keep on going here the actual
  290. 11:08song uh and I think that the ftx's
  291. 11:12internal accounting did correctly
  292. 11:14effectively try to debit Alameda uh for
  293. 11:17sure so it's fun well how about the
  294. 11:20money took off real estate you took out
  295. 11:21300 million dollars of real estate you
  296. 11:22got a whole real estate portfolio like
  297. 11:24BLM but to a much higher level so where
  298. 11:27the money come from for that what's it
  299. 11:29from FTX Alameda straight from the
  300. 11:32customers wiring you money in your
  301. 11:34personal account how did that work
  302. 11:36because you took out personal money and
  303. 11:38put it into your own pocket as well into
  304. 11:39your own personal pocket right you dress
  305. 11:42bummy but you live lavishly let's keep
  306. 11:44on going but it didn't happen in the
  307. 11:47primary account and so it didn't happen
  308. 11:49it you know it created a discrepancy
  309. 11:52between the display of the account and
  310. 11:54what was really going on there and
  311. 11:58um I and I'm still looking into exactly
  312. 12:00how that yeah I call BS I call BS what
  313. 12:04what are your lawyers telling you right
  314. 12:06now
  315. 12:07are they suggesting this is a good idea
  316. 12:10for you to be speaking
  317. 12:12they're very much not
  318. 12:14um uh and uh I mean you know the classic
  319. 12:18advice Rays don't say anything uh you
  320. 12:21know recede into a whole uh and that's
  321. 12:25not who I am I mean it's not who I want
  322. 12:27to be I don't have
  323. 12:29I I ain't got a duty to talk to people I
  324. 12:31have a duty to explain what happened and
  325. 12:33I think I have a duty to do everything I
  326. 12:35can to try and do what's right if there
  327. 12:38is anything I can do to to try and help
  328. 12:41customers out here and uh
  329. 12:44okay we got some more clips
  330. 12:48here's one it's pretty interesting
  331. 12:51today
  332. 12:53I I was as truthful as as I as you know
  333. 12:58I'm knowledgeable to be there's there's
  334. 13:00see there were the lower language I'm
  335. 13:03truthful as I'm not eligible to be wow
  336. 13:06talking about straight from your parents
  337. 13:08right straight from your parents saying
  338. 13:09a book straight from the uh your parents
  339. 13:11classroom okay your lawyer parents
  340. 13:14there's some things I wish I knew more
  341. 13:15about but yes I was so let me ask you
  342. 13:18this do you agree that
  343. 13:19over time you also lied
  344. 13:24to I agree that I lied
  345. 13:27I don't know if times when I divide I
  346. 13:30think
  347. 13:31look there are certainly times when I
  348. 13:33was acting as a
  349. 13:36um as a representative as a marketer for
  350. 13:39FTS and when I was looking for uh how
  351. 13:43can I you know in a way which is
  352. 13:46today wow okay yeah a couple more here
  353. 13:51um I can put the rest of these in the
  354. 13:54Box
  355. 13:54definitely that's the one I was playing
  356. 13:56earlier about the the whole life savings
  357. 13:58thing let's play this last one right
  358. 14:00here and then the rest will be in the
  359. 14:01description if you want to see anything
  360. 14:02full
  361. 14:04um hour plus long interview and also
  362. 14:05these clips
  363. 14:07um there have been pictures taken of
  364. 14:09something called uh msam uh which
  365. 14:11apparently increases levels of dope into
  366. 14:13the brain it's actually for Parkinson's
  367. 14:15were you taking that it's a patch
  368. 14:18so I it it's funny hearing this I I had
  369. 14:22my first sip of alcohol after my 21st
  370. 14:25birthday and I think I I have maybe half
  371. 14:27a glass of uh of alcohol a year roughly
  372. 14:31speaking there were no wild parties here
  373. 14:34when we had parties we'd play board
  374. 14:36games and you know 20 of people would
  375. 14:39have three quarters of a beer each or
  376. 14:41something like that
  377. 14:43um and you know the rest of us would
  378. 14:44would not drink anything now here's
  379. 14:47something else there was allegations
  380. 14:49that there was a bunch of you know
  381. 14:51fornicating going on uh a throuple or 10
  382. 14:55people in a relationship and that kind
  383. 14:57of thing that was the rumor also
  384. 15:00um the person or the girl his girlfriend
  385. 15:04or something some kind of girl that's
  386. 15:06close to him was over at Alameda in
  387. 15:09charge of that and she was on drugs so
  388. 15:13when this whole story comes out when all
  389. 15:15the information comes out
  390. 15:17there's going to be a lot more than what
  391. 15:19you're trying to let on right here a lot
  392. 15:20more I'll leave that right there again
  393. 15:23all other Clips in the full interview
  394. 15:25will be in the description
  395. 15:28but that's that
  396. 15:29um and the reason why he's not in the
  397. 15:32penitentiary right now is because he's
  398. 15:33in the Bahamas so there's some issues
  399. 15:35right there is he going to get
  400. 15:36extradited is he going to get charged by
  401. 15:38the federal rallies can they charge them
  402. 15:40because the company was in the Bahamas
  403. 15:42at the U.S so you're dealing with some
  404. 15:44kind of things over there like you got
  405. 15:46to work through all of that to figure
  406. 15:48out how to get them back to the US and
  407. 15:49then what are you going to charge them
  408. 15:51on is it going to be fraud is it like
  409. 15:53what's the actual
  410. 15:55charge and penalty and
  411. 15:58what not going to be but as I close I
  412. 16:01want to say this cryptocurrency I'm not
  413. 16:03really a fan of the blockchain
  414. 16:05technology I think I'm a fan of that and
  415. 16:08the way that that works but as far as uh
  416. 16:10crypto
  417. 16:12um and just trying to invest into it to
  418. 16:15make money it's it's kind of like
  419. 16:16gambling really you might be able to
  420. 16:17make money sure
  421. 16:19especially on bitcoin ethereum some of
  422. 16:21your bigger coins but these
  423. 16:23quote-unquote s coins the the bad coins
  424. 16:25the the random ridiculous nonsense you
  425. 16:27see on Twitter occasionally I would not
  426. 16:30put one ratchet into it these uh crypto
  427. 16:32exchanges I don't want to invest any
  428. 16:35cash into that and I think what's going
  429. 16:37on right here with f with SBF and FTX
  430. 16:40should be an example of why the whole
  431. 16:44thing with crypto investing might not be
  432. 16:46a very good idea but I think I'll leave
  433. 16:48that right there for now and what said
  434. 16:50you how do you feel about this interview
  435. 16:51from Sam binkerman freed over on the New
  436. 16:55York Times with MSNBC correspondent
  437. 16:57Andrew Ross Sorkin whatever your
  438. 16:59thoughts are let me know in the comments
  439. 17:00below you guys know where I'm at this is
  440. 17:02a cautionary tale about cryptocurrency
  441. 17:04and about investing about some of these
  442. 17:06guys that say they have your best
  443. 17:08interests at heart but do they really
  444. 17:09where is money really going you're
  445. 17:11giving money to this guy talking about
  446. 17:12hey invest that into crypto keep my
  447. 17:15money safe but then he puts it over into
  448. 17:17a hedge fund what part of the game is
  449. 17:19that
  450. 17:21whatever your thoughts are please let me
  451. 17:23know in the comments below and that's
  452. 17:25all I gotta say for this video if you
  453. 17:27like what you heard please comment rate
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  455. 17:31And subscribe
  456. 17:34peace

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