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0:00hi students welcome to Spanish English
0:03interpretation translation certificate
0:05program virtual speaker series spring
0:072020 the virtual speaker series is a
0:09joint effort by business applications
0:12technology faculty Lilian de la Torre
0:14Nayeli strong in margarita de la Torre
0:16and it's open to students enrolled in
0:19Bao 51 introduction to interpreting Bao
0:2257 medical interpreting and Bao 58 legal
0:25interpreting the guest speaker series
0:27will be presented live during Bao 50
0:29ones Monday night class be a zoom from 7
0:32to 8 p.m. from March 30th to May 4th
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0:45website that we WWD you /va
0:50there um logging in so Thank You
0:53students thanks so much for joining our
0:55Monday class I know we have other
0:57outside guests are not only from the
1:00interpreting program but also former
1:01students from the program I welcome you
1:04and also thank you so much Ahmad I know
1:07you have a very busy schedule just
1:10really quickly like I said Omar has been
1:12a favorite of our of our of our students
1:16he's returned to sent on a college for
1:21the past year and a half and in 2013 he
1:24took the world examination set forth by
1:25the Judicial Council and he passed the
1:27first time he's gonna share with us how
1:29that came about and as you know the
1:31passing rate for that exam is it's very
1:34low so we're very very proud of him he's
1:36a role model he's based in Orange County
1:38and us when you pass that exam you're
1:42not only certified as a court
1:43interpreter but he's also certified as
1:45the medical interpreter so with that
1:48having said that I know that there's a
1:50longer introduction for all his
1:52accomplishment that he's done but I'm
1:54just gonna let him himself tell you how
1:57he came to the United States and how you
2:00know what was his language level fluency
2:04when he came when he first came and
2:06you're just gonna love his presentation
2:08so I loved oh my let me go ahead and
2:12unmute you okay
2:13all right hello everyone can you guys
2:17hear me yes okay they can actually this
2:21is I wasn't used to using a zoom we just
2:26began using a zoom for the depositions a
2:29couple of weeks ago due to the current
2:32virus pandemic but yeah I think I've
2:36seen some of the some of these faces
2:38before I guess some of these people look
2:41familiar
2:42so hello again the ones who do not know
2:45me my name is Omer Brady I used to be
2:48Omar Contreras and the reason I've
2:50changed my name is because I became a US
2:52citizen about 2 to 3 months ago in the
2:58month of January and now I have my dad's
3:02last name you know my adopted dad's last
3:04name his name is Brady so now my name is
3:07Brady and it's a lot easier to carry the
3:09last name Brady than rather than uh you
3:12know like Contreras Martinez in court
3:14you have to spell out your name every
3:16single time to plan for a legal
3:20proceeding so before I was like Oscar
3:23Omar Contreras - Martinez now it's just
3:26all my Brady so it's a lot easier now
3:28than it used to be in the past but um
3:31well I related my experience to some of
3:34you guys before and I came to the United
3:38States back in the year of 2002 actually
3:41was in September of 2002 and I didn't
3:46have a legal status when I came here I
3:49came here actually legally and I I
3:54struggled a lot I was one of the ESL
3:58students I'm sure most of you know what
4:00ESL is you know English as a second
4:03language so I put myself through school
4:05it was a difficult journey because you
4:09know I didn't have like I explained
4:12before to some of you guys said we
4:13didn't have the means to succeed and
4:16they didn't have a car they didn't have
4:18a green card I didn't have you know
4:21enough money to go to college so it was
4:24difficult huh but
4:27you know something that I can tell you
4:29now is that when you want to achieve a
4:31goal when you want to be successful you
4:34have to strive you have to apply
4:36yourself and then you'll be able to
4:38achieve what you want now I always
4:42wanted to be an interpreter always
4:43wanted to be a court interpreter and to
4:46be honest with you I didn't know exactly
4:48where how do the process work right so I
4:52put myself to school in the city of
4:54Santa Fe Springs and I studied really
4:59really hard I wanted to be a court
5:02interpreter then I realized that there
5:04were three and this is for you guys to
5:06know there are three different types of
5:09interpreters there is a medical
5:11interpreters administrative interpreters
5:14and certified court interpreters so in
5:17my case I went for the legal you know
5:21program in that only that takes about
5:24nine months you know when I went to that
5:26school in Santa Fe Springs but any
5:28school that you attend I know that it
5:31requires a lot of studying you know you
5:33have to dedicate two or three hours a
5:36day one hour a day you know at least to
5:39study and that is because you have to
5:41memorize a lot of words a lot of the
5:43legal terms you have to have a lot of
5:46you have to know the legal terminology
5:48you have to have the speed to interpret
5:51you have to know your words in English
5:54and Spanish and you have to know how to
5:56control your anxiety when you go to the
5:58test is something that I do remember is
6:01that many of my companions many of my
6:05classmates who actually fail the test
6:07they failed because they didn't know how
6:11to control the anxiety when they went
6:13for the test you know it's very it's
6:15very difficult sometimes to control
6:17yourself many times it's not so much the
6:19test to be honest with you many times is
6:21is it's about yourself and now let me
6:25give you an example I became a US
6:27citizen three months ago and I always
6:32knew that you know this is just for you
6:34to use it you set us an example and it's
6:37not so much about how the difficulty
6:40can be is about your own emotions and
6:43how you have to learn how to control
6:46your anxiety okay
6:48when I went from my citizenship test and
6:51I'm sure perhaps some of you have gone
6:52through that process a lot of people
6:55were telling me that you know passing
6:58that test was difficult and I was like
7:00well how can that be it's only a hundred
7:02questions you know they're gonna ask you
7:05ten questions and you'll be fine well
7:08the thing is that people get very
7:10nervous even with 10 questions they
7:13don't know what to do and how to answer
7:15those questions and they fail many
7:17people wait until they turn 60 something
7:19or 50 something so they can take the
7:21test in their native tongue in their
7:24native language and surprisingly
7:28speaking some people when they take that
7:31test which is only 10 questions the US
7:34citizenship test they fail and I'm like
7:37you know I was flowering I was like I
7:39was in shock but I was like how can you
7:41fail this test when it is so easy
7:44what's the same thing with the Merrick
7:47wicked test for interpreting it's
7:52exactly the same thing it's about how to
7:54control your anxiety how to control your
7:57emotions and you have to prepare well
7:59for the test you have to study you have
8:02to memorize things you have to practice
8:05a lot so when you go for your test and
8:08you can um you know more like being
8:11controlled yourself now um in my case I
8:15was nervous you know I'm not gonna say
8:18oh I wasn't nervous I had some level of
8:20anxiety I would say but something that
8:24really helps a lot something that really
8:26helps you a lot is when you study
8:29consistently it's not so many it's not
8:32so much how many hours a day is that you
8:34have to do it consistently
8:36you have to study you have to memorize
8:38your words you have to be your homework
8:39you have to take your classes that gives
8:42you a lot of confidence when you take
8:44your test now I you know like I said
8:50before there are three different levels
8:51of interpreters
8:53there is a medical interpreters I don't
8:56know if you know this already but for
8:59instance when you get medically
9:01certified you can only work at hospitals
9:03you know you can do you can do follow-up
9:06appointments with medical doctors you
9:08can work at any medical entity you can
9:12do some of the legal cases in this case
9:17you can do a depo prep a depo prep is a
9:20preparation for a deposition and that's
9:22when the attorney prepares his client
9:25for the deposition so in this case some
9:29medical interpreters can do that they
9:31can do the they can take care of the
9:34actual deposition but they can do the
9:37depth of what we call a depo prep but
9:39mainly medical interpreters have to be
9:42in the medical field
9:44now administrative interpreters when
9:47when you become an administrative
9:49interpreter you can do almost any legal
9:52proceeding except for going into a
9:54courtroom you can in order to be in
9:58court you have to be a certified court
10:00interpreter so that is as far as I know
10:03that is the only limitation that you
10:05have us as an administrative interpreter
10:08you can do medical assignments you know
10:10medical interpretations you can do that
10:13positions you can even go to the
10:14Immigration Department but you have to
10:16but you can't go into a court room and
10:19do a legal case with the attorneys as an
10:23interpreter now when you're a certified
10:25court interpreter that gives you a lot
10:28of freedom because you can do a variety
10:31of cases you can be in a court room you
10:34can do civil cases criminal cases you
10:37can go to the Immigration Department you
10:39can even get a job as a you know as an
10:42interpreter at a hospital because when
10:45you are a certified court interpreter
10:47that allows you to work pretty much
10:50every word the only thing if you're a
10:52state certified um the only thing is
10:55that you cannot do federal cases you
10:58know you that requires a different
11:00certification but other than that you um
11:04you can do pretty much any
11:07any kind of legal cases some
11:10interpreters like immigration a lot a
11:13lot of them get a little nervous because
11:15immigration can be a little tough when
11:18it is when it is an asylum case if it is
11:22for let's say your wife is requesting
11:24you and or a father is requesting his
11:28son or his daughter or the son is
11:31requesting the father those cases the
11:33son interpreter you don't really
11:34struggle a lot because it's pretty easy
11:36you know the questions they ask is
11:38pretty much background information like
11:41you know what is your address and where
11:44who's your employer things like that but
11:47if you do an asylum case you know you
11:49come from another country or the person
11:51comes from another country and he's
11:53looking for asylum in the United States
11:55because he's been abused in his country
11:57or he's gone through some you know like
12:00violence and things like that then those
12:04cases can be pretty tough so you have to
12:08be well prepared in the way that you
12:10have to know a lot of the legal terms
12:13and you have to have a lot of knowledge
12:16in the English or Spanish because you're
12:20going to be they're gonna be asking you
12:24a lot of questions well not you but the
12:26in this case the applicants in assigning
12:28kurkuri you have to be able to answer
12:30you know to interpret correctly because
12:33there is gonna be an interpreter who's
12:35gonna be over the phone that's something
12:37that they do almost like any as far as I
12:40know any immigration center that handles
12:43asylum cases they happen over the phone
12:46interpreter so you're doing your
12:49interpreting during the you know case
12:52and there is an interpreter who's on the
12:55phone just listening to your
12:56interpretation and he's also listening
12:58to where the applicants is saying and if
13:01you make a mistake then immediately he's
13:04supposed to tell the immigration officer
13:06you know that he has some that you have
13:08made a mistake and if you don't feel
13:10like you're in control if the
13:11immigration officer feels that you're
13:14not competent as an interpreter then
13:17you're gonna get dismissed
13:19so that's one
13:20things that you know as an interpreter
13:23you have to read a lot reading really
13:26helps you tremendously watching the news
13:28honestly that that's one of the things
13:30that really even for the for your chest
13:37anytime sweetie really helps
13:40tremendously because the more you read
13:42the more you expand your vocabulary
13:44the more knowledge you acquire and then
13:47you'll be more well prepared before when
13:49you take your test you feel more more in
13:52control so that's pretty much in terms
13:54of the you know the levels of you know
13:58different kind of interpreters that
13:59there are you know out there medical
14:02interpreters administrative interpreters
14:04court interpreters also it seemed be a
14:11market rates in terms of money money is
14:16pretty good in this industry when you
14:19work independently as far as I know when
14:22you get a full-time job at a Superior
14:26Court I think they start paying about
14:29eighty around eighty thousand dollars a
14:31year plus plus benefits that's a
14:33full-time employee you know when you're
14:35certain
14:36once you become certified and you want
14:38to work for the Superior Court they pay
14:40about eighty eighty-five thousand
14:42dollars a year plus benefits so if that
14:45is what you want to do which many of my
14:48former classmates are doing now they're
14:53working they're working as employees you
14:56know at some of the superior courts and
14:58Los Angeles and even here in Orange
15:00County that's great if you want to work
15:03independently let's say you want to make
15:05more money and you want to be more
15:07financially independent then you can
15:10establish your own rates and that's one
15:13of the you know amazing things as a
15:16certified court interpreter who works as
15:18a freelancer you can establish your own
15:21rates and I think I shared some of the
15:24numbers with you guys before and I'm
15:29gonna share some numbers with you now so
15:31that way you have an idea of how much
15:33you will be making as an interpreter
15:35because a lot of interpreters do not
15:38want to talk about you know numbers for
15:41some reason they are afraid to say oh
15:42you know what I charge two hundred
15:44dollars or three hundred and fifty
15:46dollars or five hundred dollars or a
15:48hundred dollars but that's reality and I
15:50really struggle a lot because when I
15:53became an interpreter I had my license
15:55already and I was like how much am I
15:58supposed to charge you no no no one
16:00really is guiding me so if no one really
16:03gives you any guidance you're gonna make
16:05a lot of mistakes and you can either be
16:07charging too much and that's gonna put
16:10you in this advantage you know in
16:11comparison to other interpreters or you
16:15can be charging charging too little so
16:18they're gonna be calling you a lot but
16:20just because you're working a lot
16:21doesn't mean you're making good money or
16:23enough money so that's something that
16:26you have to know in this case if you
16:29want to become as you know certified and
16:33you have your certification and now you
16:36know you're gonna be working as an
16:38interpreter then you have to know
16:40exactly how much money you can charge
16:42now
16:43here are the numbers I explained this to
16:47you guys before that we interpreters do
16:50not charge per hour okay we charge for
16:55we go for like half-day in a full day
16:59okay so a half day for us is from zero
17:03to three hours so let's say an agency
17:08calls you okay and many people are gonna
17:10be calling you every single day because
17:13there is a lot of work for interpreters
17:16who are certified so an agency calls you
17:19let's say today there is Monday you know
17:21it's after 7:00 p.m. so somebody will be
17:24calling you and tell you hey I need an
17:26interpreter for a deposition tomorrow in
17:30Newport Beach and you live in the Santa
17:33Ana area okay so you're available
17:36yes I'm available all right so how much
17:38do you charge well right now
17:41interpreters are charging between a
17:44hundred and eighty dollars a hundred
17:46seventy-five 165 some of them charge
17:50even up to $200 for a half-day okay so
17:54let's say you're gonna charge a hundred
17:57and seventy five dollars okay so you're
18:00one of those that do not charge too much
18:02and do not charge too little out of
18:04those $175 the agency is supposed to pay
18:09you you're supposed to charge for
18:10mileage which are after twenty five
18:15miles okay so after twenty five miles we
18:18charge for mileage so since you're gonna
18:22you know you're in the city of Santa Ana
18:24you're gonna be covering your assignment
18:26your deposition in Newport Beach that's
18:29not more than 25 miles so in this case
18:31you won't be charging for mileage but in
18:35Newport Beach
18:35almost every law office in the city of
18:38Irvine in Newport Beach
18:39almost every office that you go to you
18:40have to pay for parking fees and in
18:43parking is expensive it goes up to $20
18:46$25 $18 $15 so let's say you pay $15 you
18:52know for parking so you don't want to
18:56pay out of your money because then
18:58you're not making enough money you want
19:00to charge your rate because you're
19:02charging for your interpreting services
19:04you're a certified court interpreter
19:06okay so you charge for your deposition
19:10and then on top of that the agency is
19:14supposed to compensate for mileage fees
19:18and parking fees so you add 175 plus 15
19:23that's a hundred and ninety five dollars
19:24okay that's how much money you're gonna
19:27be billing to the agency a hundred and
19:30ninety five dollars for a half day now
19:33half day is up to three hours but let's
19:35say the deposition this really happens a
19:37lot you were hired for a half-day the
19:40deposition lasted three hours in 25
19:44minutes to give you an example that's
19:46more than three hours right so obviously
19:48that's not a half-day anymore that's a
19:50full day so the agency is for I mean is
19:54obligated to pay you a full day rate so
19:58in the
20:00a full day you know just you just double
20:02the number 175 175 is 300 and about $350
20:10right see I'm bad with numbers guys so
20:15hold on my dad is gonna do the math for
20:18me yeah
20:21three hundred and fifty dollars so you
20:24you know the deposition is lasted three
20:30hours and 25 minutes okay
20:32so since it went over the three hours
20:34and you're charging three hundred and
20:35fifty dollars plus the parking fee you
20:40don't want to pay any fees out of your
20:44money this is just for your interpreting
20:46services the agency which is the one
20:49that is leaving you it's making money
20:51out of you they're supposed to
20:52compensate for that fee so it's three
20:55hundred and fifty dollars plus fifteen
20:58dollars for the parking so you're gonna
21:00be charging three hundred and sixty-five
21:04dollars how much that's how much money
21:06you're gonna be charging to the agency
21:08okay and in this industry we already
21:12know that when the deposition goes over
21:13the three hours so you don't even have
21:14to call the agency and say hey the
21:17deposition is gonna go over the three
21:19hours so you have to pay me a full day
21:21you don't have to do that because you
21:23don't want to interrupt the deposition
21:25you know attorneys do not like when
21:27you're interrupting so you just keep
21:28going in this industry we already know
21:31that if it goes over the three hours
21:34then then it's a full day so you just
21:36call them at the end of the deposition
21:38you tell them okay that therefore went
21:39over the three hours this is the end
21:41time so you know I'm gonna bill you for
21:44a full day perfect plus the parking fee
21:46so you always have to keep your receipt
21:50you know that the Machine gives you at
21:52the parking lot so you can charge for
21:54all that but let's say the deposition
21:57same scenario but the deposition was not
22:00in Newport Beach it was in Los Angeles
22:01and from Santa Ana to Los Angeles let's
22:05say it's forty miles one way all right
22:07so forty miles one way plus forty miles
22:10coming back we're talking about 80 miles
22:13so 80 miles and then you do the math I
22:16think right now we charge a 56 56 cents
22:21according to the IRS standards
22:24okay so 50 cents per mile so this is how
22:28we're gonna do it so now you went to
22:30their PO in Los Angeles usually
22:32deposition in Los Angeles really the
22:34depositions last more than three hours
22:36so how much is for a miles so we're
22:40gonna do the math so realistically you
22:42know how much money you're gonna be
22:43making once you have your license okay
22:46so so that you go to Los Angeles
22:51deposition lasted almost three hours
22:53that's a full day so it's three hundred
22:56and fifty dollars plus forty four
22:59dollars in eighty cents because you're
23:02going in mileage this is for the mileage
23:04so you're gonna do the math remember
23:07it's 40 just do the math you know in
23:12this case let's say it's 40 miles going
23:14to Los Angeles or in my house coming
23:16back it's 80 miles
23:17so in money you're gonna be charging
23:20forty-four dollars and 80 cents plus the
23:23parking fees because in Los Angeles
23:24parking is quite expensive so let's say
23:27you're paying $25 for pardon so now
23:32we're gonna do the math three hundred
23:33and fifty dollars plus forty four
23:37dollars and eighty cents plus twenty
23:40five dollars and the number is let's see
23:48we're here 350 plus forty four dollars
23:57cents plus $25 we're talking about four
24:02hundred and $19 with eighty cents okay
24:06that is how much money you're gonna be
24:08making for less than four hours of work
24:11now when you become an interpreter
24:14people will want you to work for them
24:17only if you are reliable that means that
24:21you always look nice when you go to work
24:23you know you have to look presentable
24:25you have to look perfect
24:27you know you have to be nice to people
24:28you have to be on time
24:30nothing like oh you know the Interpol
24:32everybody's here the interpreter is late
24:34we don't know where he is you don't want
24:36to do that because then you start
24:38creating a bad reputation for yourself
24:40and people won't be calling you anymore
24:42and people are gonna be talking really
24:43bad things about you as an interpreter
24:45because they'll be like that interpreter
24:47is not reliable so you want to create
24:49this is your own business you want to
24:52have a good reputation and trust me
24:53people are going to love you and people
24:56are gonna be calling you a lot so right
24:58now you know in less than four hours you
25:03made four hundred and $19 with a eighty
25:05cents okay
25:07because mileage you know your car is
25:10gonna start wearing off you know like
25:12all the you know the mileage on your car
25:14and stuff so you don't want to pay for
25:17that they have to pay for all of that
25:19parking fees also you know they have to
25:22pay for all that because remember the
25:24agencies are making money out of you so
25:27you're coming you're gonna be coming
25:29back home and you know agencies know
25:31that you're a certified court
25:32interpreter now somebody calls you and
25:34say okay I do have another deposition
25:37you can schedule two depositions a day
25:40okay so even if one leper goes over the
25:43three hours you can still do another
25:45depo because it's the if the deposition
25:47starts at 10:00 a.m. your morning
25:50deposition starts at 10:00 a.m.
25:52by law and they only hire you for a
25:55half-day by law you can you not stay
25:57there until 1:00 p.m. but let's say the
25:59depo goes over you know time and you
26:02stay there until 1:20 p.m. ok that's a
26:05full day level but you also have a
26:07deposition at 2 o'clock and you have to
26:10learn how to manage your time in your
26:12business if you're gonna be in Los
26:13Angeles maybe you want to get another
26:15deposition for the 2:00 p.m. in the Los
26:17Angeles area so you can go to your next
26:20step you station that's how I work
26:22things out in this business it's same
26:23same here in in Orange County
26:26so you go to your 2:00 p.m. depo because
26:31you like working hard and you want to
26:34make good money so you go to your next
26:36step oh and your next step
26:38still only two hours okay more than you
26:40charge one seventy-five
26:41now if you add four hundred and $19 with
26:4480 cents plus a hundred and seventy five
26:47dollars we are talking about five
26:51hundred and ninety four dollars a day
26:53and this is realistically speaking I'm
26:55not just talking you know like giving
26:56you false hopes and stuff this is how
26:59much money you can make for you know
27:01less than eight hours a day of work so
27:04we're talking about five hundred and
27:06ninety four dollars with it let's say
27:07six hundred dollars so that's how you
27:12you know and you charge and it's like
27:15that for legal documents also um more
27:18times it's okay so yeah same thing for
27:22legal documents you know you charge per
27:24word I charge about 25 cents per word 20
27:2722 cents per word so um a certified
27:31court interpreters guys really you can
27:34make plenty of money you can make
27:36hundreds of dollars a day you know
27:40interpreting and if you really are you
27:42know someday you open your own agency
27:44you have your own clients you'll be
27:46making probably I don't know $1,000 a
27:48day over and over a thousand dollars a
27:50day so this is how you know this is how
27:54you charge as an interpreter but
27:56remember mileage and parking fees has to
28:00come out of the agency some agencies can
28:03be tricky with the new ones so remember
28:05this when you have your new in this
28:08business and you have a license don't
28:10let people take advantage of you okay I
28:12take that from me no one really told me
28:15the things I'm sharing with you right
28:17now in some agencies took advantage of
28:19me but then I learned I was like this is
28:22not the way it is a certified court
28:25interpreter is someone valuable and they
28:27need your services if you don't take
28:28their job the agency probably won't find
28:31anyone else and they won't be able to
28:33make money so you have to tell them yes
28:36I'll take the assignment but just keep
28:37in mind that I you know I charge for
28:40parking fees and I also charge for
28:42mileage fees if it applies why because
28:46when they know that your new interpreter
28:48they know and they think that you're
28:49desperate for money
28:51and they will say okay how much do you
28:53charge and you will tell them no I
28:54charge let's say by then you will be
28:57charging $200 you know for a half-day
29:00and they will tell you well you can you
29:02have to pay mileage and and parking fee
29:04out of that because we don't compensate
29:06for mileage and we don't compensate for
29:08parking fees do not take those
29:10assignments because they will be taking
29:12advantage of you okay so they pay for
29:15those fees you you know you make your
29:17money for you know those three and two
29:20hundred dollars or three hundred fifty
29:22dollars whatever it's only for your
29:24interpreting services only okay that's
29:28pretty much how it works and let's see
29:33as time goes by you will be creating
29:37more and more experience okay at the
29:39beginning you're gonna feel like a fish
29:40out of water when you're doing a
29:42deposition when you're when you're
29:44standing in front of the judge and
29:45you're doing a trial you'll feel very
29:48nervous probably okay so but that's not
29:51gonna be forever you know one day you're
29:53gonna feel very comfortable doing this
29:55because it's very repetitive very
29:58repetitive it's pretty much the same
29:59thing you know so over time you know as
30:02the months or the years go by you're
30:05gonna be you know you're gonna be
30:06cultivating more and more experience
30:08people are gonna start liking you
30:10because you know you'll be reliable and
30:12that's how you create your own business
30:14and let me tell you something really
30:15quick before I finish even with this
30:18pandemic okay there is work you know
30:22I've been working pretty much every
30:24single day doing depositions translating
30:27documents so you know um take that from
30:31me and also certify the court
30:32interpreter I can tell you that you're
30:34not gonna be saying I'm not sitting at
30:35home I mean today I worked pretty much
30:37all day I had four assignments I had to
30:41get one of those assignments to one of
30:43my interpreters because I couldn't cover
30:45the four assignments myself so yeah
30:49there is work even under this you know
30:51cope with nineteen pandemic when you
30:54when you have a license as a certified
30:56court interpreter they they always need
30:59your services you know and even now with
31:01this pandemic a certified court intro
31:04someone valuable you know and and the
31:06legal system cannot put on hold all
31:09those cases for who knows how long you
31:12know they have to move on with the
31:13depositions they're desperate right now
31:16so yeah even under this pandemic there
31:19is work there is work if you get abuse
31:22try you know to get your license you
31:24know you're going to have word so I know
31:28you know right now the things are
31:31discouraging a lot of people are moving
31:34on with fear and I don't blame them
31:36you know circumstances are not so
31:38favorable right now but just remember
31:41this this is worth this is a very nice
31:45career you're going to be making plenty
31:48of money to have a comfortable life and
31:51and it's fantastic so keep using your
31:55you know bilingual skills sharpen your
31:58bilingual skills strive to get certified
32:01and remember my words it's gonna be
32:04worth it you won't regret it
32:05okay so that's awesome thank you and and
32:11our class goes till 8:30 but we just you
32:15know you're a special guest so you could
32:17take as much time as as you want I do
32:19know that um the students are already
32:22asking questions are you able to see the
32:24chat I have some questions too but I'm
32:26gonna give them up I'm gonna give them
32:28preference that's Ramon here's the
32:31question okay what is his question what
32:35is passing score what was the average
32:37passing score in your case um when I
32:40took my test I did my test about six
32:44years ago I would say passing score was
32:4970% and I think it's still 70% so real
32:55quick I'm gonna explain this in less
32:57than two minutes the oral examination is
33:02made up of four components which is the
33:06simultaneous component the consecutive
33:10component it is so Stu it also includes
33:14the English and Spanish translation
33:18sigh translation in Spanish the English
33:20okay so you have to pass the four of
33:23them it's the four components in the
33:26passing score is 70% so if you score 69
33:31are one of them no matter how much you
33:34got into you know for the other three
33:36you're going to fail the test it has to
33:38be 70% or more for you to pass your oral
33:42examination okay so that's and I know
33:48right now you mentioned that you there's
33:50a lot of work even though the courts are
33:53closed how are you doing the depositions
33:55are you doing them over the phone we're
33:58doing depositions over the phone we
34:01assume so you know just like right now
34:06like with you guys I you know I log in
34:09to zoom and then I and then I see the
34:14attorneys and I hear their voices and
34:16they ask questions to the deponents or
34:18the applicants I interpret they see me
34:21they hear my voice and it's like if we
34:23were doing the deposition in a
34:25conference room yeah it's exactly the
34:27same way so is this for Moseley Orange
34:31County or for other counties that you're
34:33joined is them for other counties
34:36I am listed on the master master list I
34:40am one of the interpreters who you know
34:43I listed Orange County as my main area
34:48in their Los Angeles in Riverside County
34:51but right now with the pandemic some
34:56attorneys are in San Diego some others
34:59are you know like some demos or you know
35:01I mean people are all over the place
35:02because they're doing the deposition
35:04from home so yeah but when I go to
35:10mainly County in Los Angeles Orange
35:13County Los Angeles have a lot of work la
35:16a la it really has a lot of work so you
35:19don't really need to go like some
35:21Bernardino or San Diego you don't need
35:23to do that there is a lot of work here I
35:25was under the impression right now I
35:28went on the court well for the Riverside
35:30San Bernardino County
35:32not Riverside I was under the impression
35:34since the courts are closed that there's
35:36no filing of documents right now but but
35:39what you're saying is that there's still
35:40depositions going and that they're still
35:42pretty probably doing if Eileen um yeah
35:44well there's criminal and there is civil
35:47and the the courts are open not to be
35:51public but they're open for instance
35:54market compensation the workers workers
35:57compensation Appeals Board appeals
35:59boards are open not to the public but to
36:03the attorneys so in either their
36:05positions we assume you know everything
36:09is done remotely so the attorneys go to
36:11the appeals board and they bring the
36:13documents to the judge and then the
36:15judge approves or disapproves the
36:16documents is the the judge studies the
36:19documents okay so um but via the
36:22superior courts in the workers
36:25compensation Appeals Board are still
36:27open and I think you mentioned too that
36:31right now with the pandemic you were
36:32doing some medical interpreting as well
36:34with the pending I haven't really done
36:36so well I'm actually afraid to go to the
36:40medical clinics but we've got some
36:43medical assignments
36:46I bet I've farmed them out to other
36:49interpreters because I really don't want
36:51to do it myself and some interpreters
36:53are so willing to go to the medical
36:56clinics but yeah we've got some medical
36:59assignments saying
37:01my specialty is mainly I mean I love
37:05doing medical I hope we get all because
37:09we have an agency so I focus mainly on
37:12doing depositions doing a you know
37:15immigration workers come simple cases
37:18that's what I focused on mainly but I do
37:21love medical assignments I really really
37:24do go into medical offices and
37:26interpreting for people who are sick and
37:28stuff you know I like doing that also
37:30but right now there is a lot of lot of
37:34depositions a lot of legal work so I
37:37have a question here from student
37:39Jessica Gonzalez she said when do you
37:41start charging for your services when
37:43you walk out the door when you leave
37:45your
37:45well when you walk in the door for them
37:48or when you leave your house that's a
37:49really good question and I forgot to
37:51mention this to you guys before remember
37:53when I when I told you that if somebody
37:55you know the agency calls you one day in
37:58advance two days in advance
38:00or a week before we apply a certified
38:05portent workers we applied the 24-hour
38:08cancellation fee for instance you start
38:13charging from the moment you quote
38:15number one if the assignment cancels
38:19okay let's say that hire your services
38:21today for tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m.
38:23but they cancel today at five o'clock
38:25you still charge for that half-day or
38:28full-day without going to work and you
38:32start charging from the moment you walk
38:35into the law office if they tell you
38:36that that position is going to start at
38:3810:00 a.m. okay you're right and then
38:41let's say you arrive at 9:45 you're not
38:43going to charge you know your time from
38:449:45 you charge from the time they told
38:46you that that position was going to
38:48start and 95% of the time that they pose
38:52do not start on time we started told
38:5410:20 10:30 11:00 a.m. 11:15 so but you
39:00start charging from the moment they told
39:02you that depo was going to start and the
39:05end time is what they put on the record
39:08whether it's their court reporter puts
39:10on the record the end time is let's say
39:12one o'clock or 1:20 p.m. that is the end
39:16time so you charge from the moment they
39:18tell you that that PO is going to start
39:19from the moment the deposition ends and
39:25also from a student in the valley all
39:29the way in in the San Fernando Valley me
39:31Rhonda says would you recommend any
39:33particular study materials any books
39:35anything to help them prepare he's a
39:38he's a he's preparing for the court of
39:42the court interpreter examination and I
39:44know he's a perhaps hoping to take it in
39:46the next year right well there are books
39:54on their books that you know you can
39:56study I
39:57have some words there is a company that
40:02sells some books and you can buy them
40:06online there are certain courses you can
40:08buy and there is also well this school
40:11in Santa Fe Springs which is where I
40:14went you know for my preparation for the
40:17test and you have to focus on the legal
40:23terms that's pretty much where you have
40:25to focus on there are certain you know
40:27like keywords that they're gonna you
40:29know they're gonna be using on the test
40:31and those keywords really count a lot
40:34because there are certain words that
40:36have more points on the test than others
40:39so there are books that you can purchase
40:41online there is this school in Santa Fe
40:43Springs where you can buy your books in
40:45and you can you know not just the books
40:48but they also sell you like a CD or
40:50something so you can study you know
40:52things on the computer so you can
40:54practice your speed you can practice
40:56your you know you can check on your
40:58accuracy of your interpretation so that
41:01helps a lot and really reading guys
41:04helps a lot you have to read as much as
41:07you can doesn't mean that you have to
41:09sit and read for the next you know like
41:10every three or four hours a day you know
41:12not like that but if you can just keep
41:15consistency with your reading that
41:17honestly that gives you a lot of
41:19confidence when you when you go for your
41:21test okay and on that same lines I know
41:24that um one of our other students is
41:27asking you already answer what kind of
41:30materials because I know some of them
41:31are there SIBO the interpreters company
41:33oh the SIBO materials yes right that's
41:36one of those books uh-huh that's one of
41:38the books that I that I studied myself
41:40and also the books from school in Santa
41:44Fe Springs you know those those two
41:47books the ones from Santa Fe Springs and
41:49the ones from placebo they really helped
41:52tremendously now I see that Ingrid is
41:55asking me what is the name of the school
41:58in Santa Fe Spring
41:59it's cool it's called a Southern
42:02California school of interpretation
42:04that's the name of that's the name of
42:06the school he looks to non students from
42:10there I
42:11I I think they do I really think they do
42:13that they sell books to those students
42:17and and you can ask them if they say no
42:21we don't sell those books to the
42:23students I can share some of my books
42:26with you or I can even you know help you
42:28guys to obtain some of those books since
42:31I'm one of the former's former students
42:33from Southern California school of
42:36interpretation but I'm sure they will
42:38sell you the books because mr. Wagner is
42:41pretty you know he likes helping people
42:44so he's gonna sell you the books I don't
42:45think he's gonna say no and I know that
42:48I'm on that team lying to my was saying
42:50a study guide only study guide that we
42:52have listed is the one from the actual
42:55third party data for America that does
42:57that the testing in sundered the
43:00Judicial Council and they'd only have
43:02some sample questions so we don't have
43:05anything besides that I know that one of
43:08the students said where can she get a
43:09study guide for the test so we do have
43:11the self assessment form the Judicial
43:14Council and then the the Primerica study
43:18guide that's about it that we have we
43:21are going to read be reaching out to you
43:25and Marguerite our instructor for the
43:26legal terminology because we do plan to
43:29do more prep sessions for the students
43:32so that we can help them prepare for the
43:34for the examinations yes yes there's
43:37also another question can you see it in
43:38the chat from student Tomaso compo right
43:41be right above ingrid the one that you
43:43just read let's see how long it took to
43:50be certified and did ever expect
43:53would get this far in life what was your
43:55worst experience that ever happened to
43:58you on job and word ii do or you
44:02recommend study the worst experience i
44:05well i have to tell you first the worst
44:07experience I had as a student when I was
44:10in the same circumstances as you guys so
44:12this is gonna give you a lot of hope
44:13okay a lot of people think that I'm a
44:16great interpreter that's where a lot of
44:18attorneys say and even my father has
44:20heard how the attorneys that complements
44:22my interpreting skills
44:24but when I was attending school mr.
44:28Wagner in Santa Fe Springs gave us a
44:31mock examination okay and I think it was
44:35like 60 about I'm giving an
44:37approximation it was like 67 these
44:39students in the classroom and he gave us
44:41a mock exam to see the level of our
44:44knowledge you know us in progress and if
44:46we were ready for the test because we
44:47were like about half a year away from
44:49the test and then so we took the mock
44:52exam and then the next week he began
44:56giving results so a lot of the students
44:59and he forgot about me and he walked out
45:01of the classroom and then I answer I
45:04said mr. Wagner he said yes and I said
45:06uh what about my result and then he said
45:10yeah he said you were the worst are you
45:13are you occupied the third place from
45:16the bottom to the top and there were
45:17like 60 or 70 students he said you were
45:22like your score was really bad if you
45:24were to take the test today you would
45:26have failed badly and I was like I I was
45:29very discouraged they really broke my
45:31heart a lot and then he said your
45:34consecutive skills are really bad really
45:37really bad so you have to really work
45:39hard on that if you want to take the
45:40test and and I think was we were five or
45:43six months away from the test and then I
45:45came home and I was feeling sad and
45:46depressed for about three days and then
45:48I recovered from my sadness and my
45:50depression I said all right so I need to
45:52focus on the consecutive
45:54that's because the rest of the other
45:57tech techniques you know like sight
46:01translation from English to Spanish
46:03Spanish to English and also the
46:05simultaneous I was doing pretty good on
46:07those you know in those areas but the
46:09consecutive technique was really bad for
46:12me really really bad and I practiced a
46:15lot to the point that when we were I
46:18think we were two or three months away
46:20from the test we took another mock exam
46:23and mr. Wagner I remember that I had a
46:25panic attack during that examination in
46:28the middle of the exam I I came down
46:30came down with an anxiety attack and
46:32then I began running out of like oxygen
46:35and I told mr. Wagner we need to stop
46:37right now and I
46:38to walk out of the building because I'm
46:39feeling sick and he said why I said
46:42because I think I'm doing really bad he
46:44said no he said he already doesn't if
46:46this was the actual test you know you
46:48would have already passed so you were
46:50doing great and I was like oh my gosh
46:52you know it took me about three months I
46:55would say you know to really improve my
46:57consecutive technique so that can give
47:00you a lot of hope because I was bad with
47:02the consecutive to the point that mr.
47:05Wagner didn't even bother to give him my
47:07result so three months later four months
47:10later I was doing fantastic
47:13persistent and discipline outstanding
47:16congratulations thank you thank you and
47:19also about the job my worst experience
47:22on the job um let me think
47:27let's see I've never had any any bad
47:32experience as an interpreter to be
47:34honest with you guys I've always
47:36received compliments from the attorneys
47:38one day I was um and I have to speak the
47:43truth one day I was one of the attorneys
47:47got upset with me this was in the city
47:50of Newport Beach because I was using my
47:54I don't remember if I was using my my
47:56cell phone or my tablet I was checking
47:59something when my interpretation was
48:01great it's just that I wasn't looking at
48:04the attorneys face I you know I was
48:06looking down because I was doing
48:08something with my cell phone and he
48:10didn't like that and he called me into
48:13his office when we finished we walked
48:15out of the conference room and he told
48:17me he's like I don't want you to be
48:18doing this he said I do not want you to
48:20be using your cell phone or your tablet
48:21when you're doing working in my office
48:25doing my depositions and I totally
48:27understood and I said I am so sorry I
48:30said I will never do it again and he
48:31even told me he said you're a great
48:33interpreter he gave me a compliment he
48:35said you're a great interpreter I just
48:37don't like you doing this I said I'm so
48:40sorry
48:40and yeah he corrected me I think I would
48:45say that it's not really bad I mean it
48:47was embarrassing but you know now that I
48:50have a lot
48:51experience and I'm like absolutely he
48:53was right but he didn't correct my it
48:55was not about me as an interpreters just
48:58that I was doing something that I wasn't
48:59supposed to do but I don't recall it
49:02this time anything when attorney argued
49:05with you but in your translation oh yeah
49:08my dad it just rings me up something
49:10that actually helps me with the law
49:13offices and the attorneys yes I have to
49:17relate something to you about I think it
49:20was in 2019 about six seven months ago
49:24eight months ago I had a deposition in
49:27the city of I think it was the city of
49:31Orange so to make a long story short I
49:33walked into the conference room they
49:36because we always have defense attorney
49:38defenses they want to be there is
49:40defending the and what it is a worker's
49:43comp case the defense attorney is the
49:45one that is defending the company in
49:47this case let's say one word right and
49:50the applicant attorney is the one that
49:52defends the employee the one who's suing
49:54the company so the applicant attorney
49:56was not a friendly person okay so I was
49:59doing my interpretation and then I said
50:02a defense attorney asked a question to
50:06the applicant I gave my interpretation
50:08and the applicant attorney was not a
50:11nice person but now he's almost like I
50:13can say we're friends that was a very
50:15first time we worked together he
50:17objected in a very nasty way to my
50:20interpretation he said I have to correct
50:24in her birth that's not the right you
50:26know translation for this specific word
50:30and to be honest with you I don't
50:31remember the word but I do remember that
50:33I said to the attorney okay I never
50:35argue with the attorneys I said okay
50:37counsel I said I said well as far as I
50:40know that's the correct interpretation
50:41for this translation for this work and
50:44he said no that isn't correct but he was
50:47being rude and then I said okay I said
50:51we'll tell me why and then he said
50:54because I was raised Adam I Hispanic you
50:58know household in my parents didn't use
51:01that word for that you know for this
51:03English word you know
51:05know that this is not the right
51:06interpretation and then I said well
51:08cancel with all due respect you know I'm
51:10a certified court interpreter I don't
51:12know if your parents went to college you
51:14know or what this case University in
51:16Mexico if they are from Mexico I said
51:18but I went to school in Mexico I went to
51:22school in the United States you know I
51:24became a certified court interpreter
51:26here and that is the I've always known
51:27that that's the only word for this you
51:30know English word you know that's the
51:32only translation that I can use but if
51:33you know any other then I'm going to say
51:35on the record that based on your
51:37knowledge you know because later on if
51:40somebody says well the interpreter was
51:42incorrect I want them to know that this
51:44was your idea this was your
51:45interpretation of the word not mine and
51:48he was very upset and he was he was rude
51:51to me I we both ignored him me and the
51:55defense attorney and then a month later
51:58we worked together again
52:01and and then I made a comment actually
52:04which I should have never done and I
52:06made a comment about how nasty he was
52:09with me the previous work together and
52:11he overheard my comments he was standing
52:14right behind me and I did not see the
52:15attorney standing right here I mean he
52:17said I've heard what you just said and
52:20I'm a man I had to you know I had to
52:23tell him well counsel I'm sorry but
52:25that's where you I'm speaking the truth
52:27because I was relating to the court
52:29reporter how nasty he was with me you
52:31know the previous months we worked
52:33together and then he said I heard what
52:35you just said and I said well I'm sorry
52:36but I'm speaking the truth and I was
52:39looking into his eyes and I thought he
52:41was gonna turn out to be like like he
52:43was gonna make it into a fight or
52:45something no he was actually very pretty
52:47very very friendly and you know now
52:50we've worked in peace with each other so
52:52I can tell you that that's the worst
52:53experience I've ever had but you have to
52:57go from the terminology that you've been
53:00taught and that it's already accepted in
53:03the courts correct absolutely now one
53:06thing I can tell you is that when you're
53:09in court don't be afraid of judges I
53:11know in the past I would always hear
53:13people saying oh if we work with it you
53:15know the judge the judge will never even
53:18if you
53:19make a mistake the judge will never
53:21scream or yell or humiliate you in front
53:24of the jury or in front of everyone he
53:26will never do that and this is even
53:28better for you guys know that if an
53:31attorney challenges your interpretation
53:34in court the judge always tells the
53:37attorney counsel on your certified court
53:39interpreter no your honor I'm not but my
53:42mom and my dad raised me speaking
53:44Spanish so it doesn't matter to me
53:45the experts and now if you have an
53:48objection you have to wait until we
53:50finish today so the judge will never put
53:53you on the spot that I can tell you I've
53:55done many many legal cases in the Los
53:58Angeles area I've done criminal cases
54:01I mean cases that are very very you know
54:03serious cases and one attorney one day
54:07he objected to my interpretation in
54:09front of the judge we were in front of
54:11the jury this was a criminal case and I
54:13was like oh in my head I was like oh my
54:15god this is gonna be bad and the judge
54:18said to the attorney counsel are you a
54:20certified court interpreter no your
54:22honor and he was gonna give his
54:24explanation he said then be quiet and
54:25let interpret to continue with his job
54:27if you have something saying wait until
54:29we finish yes and when I and I remember
54:34another occasion when I was at the
54:36Appeals Board
54:37appeals for this where they handle the
54:39workers compensation cases in Santa Ana
54:41an attorney was upset because um I don't
54:46know I did something and if she wanted
54:49but she was frustrated with the defense
54:51attorney and she wanted to take it out
54:53of me and she wanted to criticize me and
54:55I do remember that the judge see that
54:57attorney into the chambers and she was
55:00yelling at the attorney because she
55:03wanted to take her frustration out of me
55:05and when the attorney came out she was
55:08all nice and friendly with me very nice
55:10and very friendly yeah I'm so sorry
55:13always be on your side unless you do
55:15something really bad or you're
55:17unprofessional
55:18or you're saying something completely
55:20out of place that's when probably the
55:22judge will tell you something but I've
55:24never asked an interpreter I've never
55:25had any bad experiences with the judges
55:28themselves ever those are great stories
55:31thank you
55:33oh you're welcome what else right up
55:38right below Ingrid Maria Lucia know when
55:41a depo is cancelled without any
55:44notification what exactly do we charge
55:46you charge exactly the same as if you
55:49had done the deposition remember I told
55:52you guys before we apply the 24-hour
55:55cancellation fee if somebody called me
55:58today let's say 3:00 p.m. for a
56:01deposition for tomorrow and they hired
56:03me for a half-day or full-day either one
56:07let's say a half-day tomorrow at 10:00
56:09a.m. they cancelled today at 6 o'clock
56:13or five o'clock you charge for the
56:16deposition because we applied a 24-hour
56:18cancellation fee so you we're gonna
56:20charge one hundred and seventy five
56:22dollars for you know for the depo you
56:25charge those ones 175 and this is how
56:29you make really good money you know like
56:31and I do this a lot that if they cancel
56:33then you take work from another agency
56:36you go and you cover that as how many we
56:38charge without that other depo so you
56:40charge for your late cancellation and
56:43you also charge for the Deaf for that
56:45you charge
56:45I mean you cover it in the morning
56:47obviously because you you know the first
56:49one was cancelled and then you do your
56:522:00 p.m. deposition as well so it's
56:55like doing three demos
56:56you're charging for three dapples where
56:58you're only doing two because one of
56:59them was a late cancellation so you're
57:01always charged
57:02same thing if they if they hire you for
57:04a full day they tell you hey I have a
57:06full day tomorrow in court how much do
57:09you charge what all three hundred and
57:10fifty dollars plus part and piece plus
57:13mileage obviously in Vista in this case
57:16if it is a late cancellation you're not
57:18charging for mileage and parking fees
57:20because you're not driving to the
57:22deposition you're not getting to the
57:24parking lots okay you're only charging
57:26for your fee your interpreting fees so
57:29they if they hire you for a full day you
57:31charge for a three no three hundred and
57:33fifty dollars four hundred dollars
57:34whatever your fees may be for a full day
57:37and you have the you know the beauty is
57:40that you can you have the advantage of
57:41taking work from other agencies that
57:44will cover that full day so if you watch
57:46if you
57:46we're hired for a full day you charge
57:48your 300 400 350 or $400
57:52you still get one or two devils and you
57:54charge for those because you know you
57:55had a late cancellation okay thank you
57:59thank you for answering that also there
58:02another student is saying after you get
58:04certified how long after until you
58:06actually start working and making good
58:08money after you get certified in it
58:13depends on how much I mean you have to
58:16be proactive and you have to usually
58:19they just is no because your name will
58:22be listed on the master list so the
58:25agencies when they're desperate they go
58:27on to the master list and they start
58:28looking for the interpreters we've
58:29covered that the area where they have
58:31the deposition or the case whatever you
58:33know the in the legal case but you have
58:35to call agencies and you have to tell
58:37them hey you know I'm a certified court
58:39interpreter let me know if you have work
58:41for me in my case form you start getting
58:45all the work that I want it to get you
58:48know like like you know working two
58:50hours I mean two thousand two up two or
58:52three assignments a day every single day
58:54I think it's it's about two to three
58:56months from you start getting a lot of
58:58work like a lot of work but agencies
59:02were calling me a little bit you know
59:04not so much the first for three months
59:06but you have to call them you have to
59:08you know you have to promote your
59:10business because you are your own
59:12business and you have to tell them hey
59:14I'm a certified court interpreter and
59:16I'm letting you know if you have
59:17something from me and they will oh
59:19absolutely they will start calling you
59:21and you will have a lot of work so if
59:23you don't get enough work the first few
59:26weeks or the first few months I'm gonna
59:28tell you where my father told me enjoy
59:30your time know once they know who you
59:34are and they you've proved to be a
59:37reliable interpreter they will be
59:40calling you like crazy you like honestly
59:43like you're gonna have a lot of work to
59:45the point that you're gonna cry out of
59:47frustration and you'll be making really
59:49good money awesome thank you also
59:53another question from Maria Lujan Oh
59:55student says asking what is the process
59:59to become a federal
1:00:00or interpreter um that's a different
1:00:02course you have to take you have to go
1:00:06to school and you know all over again
1:00:08and just like we like what you're doing
1:00:12right now you know you take certain
1:00:13classes you take certain courses and
1:00:16then you take the written exam mmm you
1:00:21know for a federal interpreting and then
1:00:24once you pass a written exam then that
1:00:27gives you the green light for the for
1:00:29the oral examinations so it's pretty
1:00:31much the same the same process as us
1:00:34when you want to get certified for yes
1:00:38and we will be students we will be
1:00:39covering the requirements for the
1:00:41federal court interpreter and our legal
1:00:43modules coming up in about two weeks I
1:00:46have a question actually I have two
1:00:49questions yes I mentioned to them just
1:00:53before I forget I just want to mention
1:00:55something real quick federal is it's
1:01:00good okay I'm not gonna tell you oh
1:01:02don't go for it don't go for it because
1:01:04the more knowledge you have in this life
1:01:06the better I just want to tell you
1:01:08something and I'm speaking realistically
1:01:10okay as a federal interpreter you can
1:01:14charge more money however in this area
1:01:19where we live here here in Southern
1:01:21California Orange County LA County there
1:01:25is very little federal work most ninety
1:01:28ninety percent of the work we have as
1:01:31interpreters is with the state so I'll
1:01:34give you an example let's say you are
1:01:35its federal interpret I must state
1:01:38interpreter okay your certification is
1:01:41higher than mine but agency is in this
1:01:45area 99 percent of the agencies are
1:01:48looking for stay at a state interpreter
1:01:50not a federal interpreter so obviously
1:01:53since you went school longer than me you
1:01:55studied harder than me you when an
1:01:57agency calls you you will tell them well
1:01:59you know what I'm a federal interpreter
1:02:01so for a deposition I'm going to charge
1:02:02you three hundred dollars for a half-day
1:02:04all right however Almar which is this
1:02:08case me I'll tell them you know what I'm
1:02:10stating trafford so I'll charge you $200
1:02:13for one hundred and eighty dollars for a
1:02:14they now you are at a disadvantage
1:02:17compared to everybody else because as an
1:02:20agency DODOcase if Omar is a reliable
1:02:23interpreter you know and he works nicely
1:02:27he charges a lot less than the federal
1:02:30interpreter why would I get a federal
1:02:32and proper for this workers compensation
1:02:35case now this is only here in Southern
1:02:38California but if you go to places like
1:02:40New York City Washington DC Boston in
1:02:44Massachusetts then you're going to get a
1:02:47lot more federal work over there but in
1:02:49this area I can tell you that if you are
1:02:52a federal interpreter you're not really
1:02:55gonna be making a lot of money out of it
1:02:58because you will always have to lower
1:03:00your rates to the level of other
1:03:03interpreters or state certified so you
1:03:05can be you know like so you can have
1:03:09work so you can make money because if
1:03:11you charge your federal rates they're
1:03:13gonna be using only for federal cases
1:03:16and and you you probably won't be
1:03:18getting a lot of work also not that you
1:03:23mentioned the competitiveness of the
1:03:25business I know more and more the
1:03:28judicial council has been looking at
1:03:30ways to recruit more people I know
1:03:33there's still a shortage in California
1:03:35last year they did a pilot program with
1:03:38three courts one in Sacramento I believe
1:03:41that one was in Ventura trying to see
1:03:43how they could use Spanish certified
1:03:46trans interpreters to work over the
1:03:49phone via remotely so why do you think
1:03:52or what what can the Judicial Council do
1:03:55why is there such a big shortage of
1:03:57certify interpreters um well a lot of
1:04:04people are struggling to get certified
1:04:07um I think that perhaps something that
1:04:12I've always noticed every ever since I
1:04:15came to the United States and I'll be
1:04:17you know honest with you guys many
1:04:19people I feel that they don't want to
1:04:22use their bilingual skills because they
1:04:24think that Oh a lot of people do not
1:04:26know how much money they can make
1:04:28they buy their bilingual skills so there
1:04:31is a lot of work in the legal system a
1:04:34lot of work so but there we don't have
1:04:37enough intercourse so number one it's
1:04:41not that easy to get certified I'm not
1:04:43saying that is impossible for you have
1:04:46really like you have to dedicate
1:04:47yourself you know in on the other side
1:04:50we have so many cases compared to how
1:04:54many interpreters we have interpreters
1:04:57were certified so what I can tell you is
1:05:01that there is a lot more work than we
1:05:04can handle a lot more I know the
1:05:08requirement one of the requirements once
1:05:10you do get certified by the Judicial
1:05:12Council is to continue with professional
1:05:14development what do you do how do you
1:05:17keep up with that like do you take
1:05:19anything online or how what what what is
1:05:22that requirement and how do you handle
1:05:24that yes that is also a good question
1:05:26million once you get your certification
1:05:29you have to do the continuing continuing
1:05:33education and you have to every two
1:05:37years you have to renew your license
1:05:39okay so for instance in my case right
1:05:43now I have to renew my license by
1:05:45December 31st 2020 which is by the end
1:05:48of this year so you have to gather
1:05:51according to the Judicial Council you
1:05:53have to gather 40 legal cases that you
1:05:56have to do during those two years
1:05:57because you have to renew your license
1:06:00every every two years so obviously I
1:06:02sign in for certified court interpreter
1:06:04you're gonna be making a lot more cases
1:06:06than you know a lot more than 40 cases
1:06:08in two years perhaps we'll be making 40
1:06:12per month so that you know in that case
1:06:16you won't have any problems and you have
1:06:20to list the names of those cases you
1:06:22have to list the number the adj number
1:06:25where they call the a DJ number and the
1:06:27name of the law office or the name of
1:06:29the deponents
1:06:30so you you know you make your list and
1:06:33also you have to gather certainly units
1:06:36the units is when you go to when you
1:06:38take courses when you take seminars I
1:06:41think
1:06:42it's about a 35 to 40 units and I think
1:06:44they give you it's one unit per hour or
1:06:48something like that so what I do is that
1:06:50usually I go to a three-day seminar
1:06:53Friday Saturday and Sunday it's like I
1:06:56don't know like 89 hours a day and that
1:07:00gives me pretty much all of the units I
1:07:03need it's something like that I have to
1:07:05count exactly because sometimes you go
1:07:07to a seminar that lasts six hours and
1:07:09they give you like four units then you
1:07:12have to go to another one that lasts
1:07:13five hours and they give you like six
1:07:15units or 3 units and that's how you can
1:07:18do it little by little in my case I just
1:07:20prefer to go you know three full days
1:07:23you know in and then I gather all of my
1:07:26units so you gather your units by going
1:07:28to a seminar you have to pay for the
1:07:30seminar it's not for free but you're
1:07:32gonna be making plenty of money to pay
1:07:34for it so I think it's like I don't know
1:07:37when I pay for my seminars like two or
1:07:41three hundred dollars something like
1:07:42that three hundred and fifty dollars I
1:07:45don't even remember but it's you know
1:07:48it's a couple hundred dollars that you
1:07:49pay for the seminar and and also you
1:07:52have to pay a $100 fee to renew your
1:07:55license so you're gonna be spending I
1:07:58don't know five six hundred dollars to
1:08:00renew your license every every every two
1:08:04years now the continuing education units
1:08:07do they have to be within a particular
1:08:09field oh you can pick and choose well
1:08:12there are actually there are
1:08:15interpreters and agencies and companies
1:08:17that specialize in giving those seminars
1:08:21and they're always in regards to legal
1:08:23terms okay sometimes idioms slings legal
1:08:30terminology things like that it's within
1:08:34your same industry same topic absolutely
1:08:37yes they give you names of drugs and
1:08:40names of weapons and things like that
1:08:42because you used those in courts when
1:08:45you're doing criminal cases you use
1:08:47those you know things related to drugs
1:08:51and weapons and things like like the
1:08:53cartel and stuff
1:08:55I think I'm going to do two more to
1:08:59three more questions from students and
1:09:01then we'll wrap it up someone just said
1:09:05mentioned that this is off topic but
1:09:07since your last name is Brady he wants
1:09:11to know if you're a Patriots fan no
1:09:16actually I'm not my dad my adopted dad
1:09:20he's eyes I miss Brady and he's not even
1:09:22into sports so no I'm sorry guys
1:09:28anyways regarding the school that you
1:09:31went to we know that that's a private
1:09:33school because of the little passing
1:09:36raid they can guarantee that you will
1:09:38pass the exam I know someone is asking I
1:09:41had other students that where went to
1:09:43the Santa Fe and now they're coming back
1:09:44after they did not pass so I don't know
1:09:47if that answers your question fitted
1:09:49because she say no how much that's a
1:09:51school you went in Santa Fe how much
1:09:53does it cost to attend and did they do
1:09:55they guarantee you will pass the court
1:09:56exam well there is no guarantee actually
1:10:00guys I mean you can go to any school you
1:10:03can go to Santa Ana College or UCLA
1:10:06because I know UCLA also offers
1:10:08interpreting program or you can go to
1:10:10Santa Fe Springs there is no guarantee
1:10:12it depends on how much you apply
1:10:15yourself you know it all depends on you
1:10:20for instance in my case I only went to
1:10:23school with in Santa Fe Springs with mr.
1:10:26Wagner only for about a year and a half
1:10:28or so it was not more than two years it
1:10:31was about a year and a half and and I
1:10:36remember that many of my classmates had
1:10:39been attending school for three years
1:10:40four years two and a half years five
1:10:43years I had a I had a classmate who
1:10:46actually took the oral examination 15
1:10:50times 15 times but I mean you know it's
1:10:58all you know and in most of those
1:11:01students you know had been in the in
1:11:03this country probably longer than me so
1:11:06it depends on how badly you want to
1:11:09achieve something so yeah that I can
1:11:11tell you that it doesn't have to do with
1:11:13this it has nothing to do with the
1:11:15school probably it has to or your age or
1:11:20whatever you know it has to do with your
1:11:23you know if you if you have a plan you
1:11:27know in terms of you know how much you
1:11:29want to prepare for your test and how
1:11:32badly you want to pass your test then
1:11:33you'll be able to do it absolutely and
1:11:36just because you've been at ten you've
1:11:39been attending school for three years
1:11:40doesn't mean you're gonna pass or just
1:11:42because you've been attending school for
1:11:44one year doesn't mean you're not going
1:11:45too fast it's it's all about you it all
1:11:48depends on on your intelligence and your
1:11:50dedication and your efforts well you're
1:11:53definitely a great inspiration in a role
1:11:55model we appreciate everything that you
1:11:58share with the students someone is
1:12:01asking if you're working on your own as
1:12:03an interpreter your own business how
1:12:05would you do your taxes I guess this
1:12:07would be depending on I'm also business
1:12:10consultant if you're doing it as a
1:12:11freelancer would this be a 1099 or as a
1:12:16as an owner sole proprietorship it just
1:12:19depends yeah I have my own agency and my
1:12:26father isn't one who helps me with all
1:12:28the he and the tax lady there they wants
1:12:30to take care of the taxes but as far as
1:12:32I know I have to take taxes every four
1:12:35months when humans are quarterly because
1:12:39when you make certain amount of money
1:12:40you can't wait until the end of the year
1:12:42you know the federal government wants
1:12:45you to file your taxes every four months
1:12:47so that's how that's how we do that's
1:12:50how I do my taxes under a 1099 and and
1:12:54it's every four months that I have to
1:12:55pay for my taxes well um I thank you
1:13:00again Omar I don't know if you like to
1:13:02have any closing comments I think we
1:13:05took care pretty much of all the
1:13:06questions there students are saying
1:13:08thank you they feel very honor thank you
1:13:10so much for having you up above when you
1:13:13started and thank you thank you for all
1:13:16the information so I know some of them
1:13:20already
1:13:21we're present in Europe
1:13:23his presentation and they were very
1:13:24excited to see you come back we know you
1:13:26always have something different to share
1:13:29definitely you're a great model and an
1:13:31inspiration
1:13:32are there any closing anything you'd
1:13:34like to say you know just that um
1:13:36continue with this career guys I know
1:13:42you know like I said at the beginning
1:13:44times are difficult right now but you
1:13:49know it's easy to get discouraged this
1:13:52is a beautiful beautiful career and it's
1:13:55not going to fall apart because of the
1:13:58coronavirus or because I mean people
1:14:00would have to really like millions of us
1:14:02would have to die in order for you know
1:14:04to say oh there is no work and that's
1:14:06not gonna happen I mean that's going to
1:14:07the extremes but there is there is work
1:14:12okay so I'm telling you you know I have
1:14:16not been what I've been sitting at my
1:14:18house because I work from home now but
1:14:20um I've been busy working I've been busy
1:14:23making money translating documents doing
1:14:26depositions you know things like that so
1:14:31please you know continue going with your
1:14:34studies do not give up this is worth it
1:14:37it really really is I know it's not easy
1:14:40right now and perhaps it has never been
1:14:44easy for you guys but one thing I can
1:14:47tell you once you get licensed you are
1:14:50going to it's going to transform your
1:14:53life it's not just going to change your
1:14:55life but it's going to transform your
1:14:57life okay whether you want to work as an
1:15:00employee you know saying okay I just you
1:15:02know I want to make sure that I you know
1:15:04have $80,000 as an income or 85,000 and
1:15:08whatever you know they pay or saying oh
1:15:10I want to make a lot more money than
1:15:12that whatever you're gonna have a lot of
1:15:15work that I can tell you so don't give
1:15:17up continue with your with your studies
1:15:19I continue going to school taking your
1:15:22classes online right now because of the
1:15:24virus in and just you know be strong
1:15:27because there is a great great need for
1:15:30excuse me for interpreters there is a
1:15:33great need for interpreters and I know
1:15:35that when you go get
1:15:36regular job usually those jobs when you
1:15:39go to a company they want you know what
1:15:41great company they want you to use your
1:15:43bilingual skills for here you can use
1:15:45their bilingual skills as well and
1:15:47you're gonna be paid a lot more and
1:15:49you're gonna you know interpreters are
1:15:52valuable they're valuable in the in the
1:15:55legal field so it's it's the whale so
1:15:58they make you feel honestly attorneys
1:16:00judges they always make you feel like
1:16:02hey we need you here you're a valuable
1:16:05person in this in this industry so
1:16:07continue going in and it's gonna go well
1:16:10for you guys that you really encourage
1:16:13them to keep going so thank you I also
1:16:16thank you behalf of the other students
1:16:18from my alien and our legal court
1:16:20interpreter class thank you so much for
1:16:23participating I think you're dead also
1:16:25for being your supporter for being there
1:16:27also as a fan of our classes you know is
1:16:30welcome he's our VIP as well thank you
1:16:33Bob thank you so much and the best of
1:16:38luck to you we will send you a the
1:16:40recording of the session has been
1:16:42recording from the beginning once I edit
1:16:44it and I will send it to you in this
1:16:46week so you could have it for your
1:16:48reference as well great thank you guys
1:16:51thank you so much good luck okay yes
1:16:53thank you thank you so much as bested
1:16:55for you - thanks likewise bye-bye

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