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  1. 0:08[Music]
  2. 0:34hi I'm dr. Thomas West Hillsdale College
  3. 0:38teaching the politics department I'm a
  4. 0:40professor of politics and my talk today
  5. 0:44is going to be on natural rights in the
  6. 0:46American Revolution and the topic is a
  7. 0:50good one because it indicates two things
  8. 0:53one is a theory a theoretical concept
  9. 0:56natural rights and the other is a
  10. 0:59historical event rooted in a time and
  11. 1:01place the American Revolution so in
  12. 1:04order to understand our founding it's
  13. 1:06important I think to grasp the
  14. 1:08connection between theory and practice
  15. 1:11between the ideas that motivated or that
  16. 1:16helped the founders to structure their
  17. 1:18activities and actions against Britain
  18. 1:20at the same time to understand what the
  19. 1:23practical fight was all about with the
  20. 1:26British that led to American
  21. 1:27independence in the period leading up to
  22. 1:31the revolution and independence in 1776
  23. 1:36people in the colonies had been pretty
  24. 1:41much left alone by the British with some
  25. 1:43exceptions there was a long period in
  26. 1:46which there was a kind of uneasy truce
  27. 1:48you might say between the colonial
  28. 1:51legislature is elected by the colonists
  29. 1:54and the royal governor sent over from
  30. 1:57the king and from Britain and there was
  31. 1:59there was a rivalry there the colonial
  32. 2:02legislatures tended to get their way
  33. 2:04much to the chagrin often of the British
  34. 2:06officials but and that was an
  35. 2:09arrangement that lasted for quite a
  36. 2:11while but then there was the French and
  37. 2:13Indian War which changed everything that
  38. 2:16war concluded in 1763 with Treaty of
  39. 2:20peace that then led both sides both the
  40. 2:23British and the Americans to think very
  41. 2:25differently about their relationship
  42. 2:26with each other from the British side
  43. 2:29they became increasingly impatient with
  44. 2:33the colonists now that there was no
  45. 2:35longer the French threat on the northern
  46. 2:37border to worry about they needed the
  47. 2:40colonists to fight the French which had
  48. 2:42been a theme throughout the 18th century
  49. 2:44but now
  50. 2:45French were defeated they're gone as a
  51. 2:47serious power in North America and it's
  52. 2:50up to venit became the British the
  53. 2:52British Empire but that meant that they
  54. 2:56didn't the British government didn't
  55. 2:58have to treat the colonists so politely
  56. 2:59and they also pointed out you the
  57. 3:02colonists we've been defending you all
  58. 3:04this time and you haven't been paying
  59. 3:05taxes or at least not very many taxes so
  60. 3:08we're going to do something about that
  61. 3:09I'm going to start taxing you and we're
  62. 3:11also gonna start making it clear to you
  63. 3:13that you're part of the Empire and you
  64. 3:15have to obey us on the colonial side of
  65. 3:18course Americans attitude was now that
  66. 3:21the French threat is gone we don't need
  67. 3:22the British as much so all that time
  68. 3:25when the British were saying you know
  69. 3:27you need us and I didn't need the
  70. 3:29colonists didn't need the British forces
  71. 3:31to with respect to the French now it was
  72. 3:34what's let's go off on her own and least
  73. 3:37or at least let's not be pressed and
  74. 3:39pushed around by the British there was
  75. 3:41not an immediate desire for independence
  76. 3:42in 1763 but the attitude of the
  77. 3:46Americans was let's not let the British
  78. 3:49push us around anymore let's stick to
  79. 3:52our own way of doing things and stand
  80. 3:54make the British acknowledge that that
  81. 3:57led to the crisis that started in the
  82. 3:591760s 70s leading up to the actual
  83. 4:03declaration of independence in 1776 what
  84. 4:06the colonists were doing throughout this
  85. 4:08period is not just reacting in a
  86. 4:11visceral way to their desire to be free
  87. 4:14but they also had at their pant at hand
  88. 4:18ready at hand a doctrine of natural
  89. 4:20rights and natural law which had been
  90. 4:22around the colonies for quite a while
  91. 4:24these ideas had come into the colonies
  92. 4:28sometime around 1710 or shortly
  93. 4:30thereafter became widely known and
  94. 4:34discussed in the colonies throughout
  95. 4:36that period between 1710 and the end of
  96. 4:39the French and Indian War 50 years later
  97. 4:42and the Americans therefore were able to
  98. 4:46say look it's not just a matter of our
  99. 4:48not deserve our wish to not be dominated
  100. 4:51by you people you British it's also we
  101. 4:55have a right to be free we have a right
  102. 4:57to self-government
  103. 4:58and the British of course in response
  104. 5:02said no you don't you're part of the
  105. 5:04Empire you have to obey the Parliament
  106. 5:06and that's the store that's the end of
  107. 5:08it we might compromise me I'd let you
  108. 5:10have a little freedom but that was the
  109. 5:12gist of what happened so what the appeal
  110. 5:15to the natural rights doctrine which
  111. 5:17began in earnest in the 1760s was was an
  112. 5:22appeal to a doctrine that is claim that
  113. 5:25claims to be universally true for all
  114. 5:27human beings everywhere and that's what
  115. 5:29gave the revolution its peculiar flavor
  116. 5:31of not just being a local quarrel
  117. 5:33between this and that group but a
  118. 5:36quarrel that was made in the name of the
  119. 5:38universal principles of natural law and
  120. 5:41natural rights of something that is true
  121. 5:42now and forever and will always be true
  122. 5:45about human relationships that teaching
  123. 5:48of the of the natural law is stated all
  124. 5:52over the place in founding era documents
  125. 5:54you could find in the Declaration of
  126. 5:56Independence most famously you see it in
  127. 6:00state after state each gate states that
  128. 6:04put together constitutions most of them
  129. 6:06had Bills of Rights had statements of
  130. 6:08principle these doctrines were widely
  131. 6:12held you hear occasionally some people
  132. 6:15will say well that was just Jefferson's
  133. 6:17idea and he was influenced by the French
  134. 6:19that's ridiculous that these ideas had
  135. 6:21been around the colonies for 60 years by
  136. 6:25that time and widely accepted and known
  137. 6:27and became officially part of the record
  138. 6:30in that in the revolution and what you
  139. 6:33find in these state constitutions is
  140. 6:36various restatements of the same ideas
  141. 6:39that are in the Declaration of
  142. 6:40Independence and they help to clarify so
  143. 6:43in the Declaration you have all men are
  144. 6:44created equal and that has led lots of
  145. 6:47people to make all kinds of assumptions
  146. 6:49about men and women about blacks and
  147. 6:53whites about and so on it's about it's
  148. 6:56not about human equality in the sense of
  149. 6:58we're all the same it's about human
  150. 7:01equality in the sense of no one has the
  151. 7:03right to dominate anybody else without
  152. 7:05their consent the founders had a way of
  153. 7:08they different formulations of this
  154. 7:12for example Virginia all men are by
  155. 7:14nature equally free and independent or
  156. 7:17Massachusetts all men are born free and
  157. 7:20equal these were different versions of
  158. 7:22the same thought that no one has the
  159. 7:25right to rule another that there is a
  160. 7:26and then that was also put in moral
  161. 7:29language in terms of Rights and natural
  162. 7:31law so the right the natural right idea
  163. 7:34arises from the notion that not only are
  164. 7:36we born equal in the sense nobody's
  165. 7:38ruling we also have a right a moral
  166. 7:40claim that we can make on behalf of that
  167. 7:43state of we do bar we do deserve to be
  168. 7:46equal in free and equally free and from
  169. 7:50that then comes the idea of a natural
  170. 7:52right to Liberty from which in the
  171. 7:54founders minds all the other rights in
  172. 7:57it in one way or another can be derived
  173. 7:59once you're if you have a right to be
  174. 8:01free not to be ruled by another means
  175. 8:03that means a right not to be assaulted
  176. 8:05not to be killed by another that's the
  177. 8:06right to life if you have the right to
  178. 8:09be free to use your own mind and your
  179. 8:11own body to acquire property that means
  180. 8:14you have a right to quiet to property if
  181. 8:16you have a right not to be dominated in
  182. 8:19the way you worship God that's a
  183. 8:21religious freedom right the basic idea
  184. 8:23is all men are born free in the sense
  185. 8:26that everybody who is part of a
  186. 8:28government ought to have given that
  187. 8:31person is here her consent to be part of
  188. 8:33that government equality then can be
  189. 8:36understood to be a moral claim in two
  190. 8:38ways one is it's about the moral rights
  191. 8:40and obligations of human beings to each
  192. 8:43other and as I said just now their basic
  193. 8:47right right to Liberty and all the other
  194. 8:48rights that follow from it and the other
  195. 8:50is a claim about the rights rule who has
  196. 8:53the right to rule born equally free and
  197. 8:54independent means not born into a slave
  198. 8:58relationship or subordinate relationship
  199. 9:01understand of course when they talked
  200. 9:04about this they didn't mean children
  201. 9:06they always understood children are
  202. 9:07under the temporary control or wardship
  203. 9:09of their parents but that was always
  204. 9:12understood to be a warship that was a
  205. 9:14preparation for freedom once the
  206. 9:16children grow up there was no idea of
  207. 9:19patriarchy throughout life in the
  208. 9:21founders conception once you've reached
  209. 9:24the age of majority let's say 21
  210. 9:25typically in American law at that time
  211. 9:27you're free free of your parents and
  212. 9:31from then on you are free you are free
  213. 9:34of everything unless it's the laws that
  214. 9:36you've given your consent to obey and
  215. 9:38it's that consent
  216. 9:40it's that giving of consent collectively
  217. 9:43that is what creates a nation creates a
  218. 9:46people that is then to be governed by a
  219. 9:49particular form of government founders
  220. 9:52use the term social compact to mean the
  221. 9:56agreement we all make with each other
  222. 9:58fellow citizens make with each other to
  223. 10:01form a government and to accept the
  224. 10:03rules made by that government and once
  225. 10:07you're in the social compact you then
  226. 10:09become an exclusive body apart from the
  227. 10:11rest of humanity and they the government
  228. 10:15you're creating is for you you your
  229. 10:17fellow citizens and protection of you
  230. 10:20and your rights it's only for the prytt
  231. 10:22not for the protection of the rest of
  232. 10:23mankind and their rights so what does it
  233. 10:29mean to be free and equal in a daily
  234. 10:31day-to-day situation I like to use the
  235. 10:33example of a job when you apply for a
  236. 10:35job you are saying to the employer
  237. 10:40I have something valuable to offer you
  238. 10:43my labor and if you offer me something
  239. 10:47valuable let's say pay a salary we'll
  240. 10:51make an agreement and the agreement is
  241. 10:53an agreement between equals I agree to
  242. 10:55be ruled by you insofar as I'm employed
  243. 10:58by you you agree to pay me and it's a
  244. 11:02relationship of subordination it's not a
  245. 11:06relationship with permanent
  246. 11:07subordination that would be slavery
  247. 11:09it's an employment contract always has
  248. 11:11limits beyond which the employer is not
  249. 11:13allowed to go in order to protect the
  250. 11:16life liberty and property of the
  251. 11:18employee but that's one example a simple
  252. 11:21example of how equality works in
  253. 11:23practical life and day to day life now
  254. 11:26the idea of consent of the governed is
  255. 11:30fundamental to the founding and in fact
  256. 11:32the Revolution itself was primarily
  257. 11:34fought in the name of consent because it
  258. 11:38was the the issue was can
  259. 11:39British imposed taxes upon our people
  260. 11:42without the consent of our own locally
  261. 11:45elected legislative bodies the answer
  262. 11:47was no they can't and that has to be at
  263. 11:52contacts as in any form of government
  264. 11:54intrusion on our life liberty or
  265. 11:56property has to be with the agreement of
  266. 11:58the people who live under that
  267. 12:00government and that has to be expressed
  268. 12:02through elected legislatures or through
  269. 12:06democracy where people get together in
  270. 12:08person as saying in New York New England
  271. 12:11Township
  272. 12:11now that consent what did that actually
  273. 12:13mean in practice in terms of structure
  274. 12:15and government do we want to have a
  275. 12:18legislative body is it a good idea to
  276. 12:20have an executive what about judging
  277. 12:23what about courts all of that had to be
  278. 12:26worked out and thrashed out and that was
  279. 12:28an area where a lot of the disagreements
  280. 12:30in the founding came forward it was a
  281. 12:33general agreement on consent in the form
  282. 12:34of elections general agreement that
  283. 12:37government needed to have some kind of
  284. 12:38an executive for prosecutions for
  285. 12:40directing the Armed Forces for dealing
  286. 12:44with sudden problems like an uprising
  287. 12:46you know organizing the militia but
  288. 12:49basically there was agreement the
  289. 12:52disagreements in terms of structure of
  290. 12:54government I'm not going to go into
  291. 12:57today that's going to be the topic of
  292. 12:59the next couple of talks in this series
  293. 13:02what I'm going to focus on today is the
  294. 13:05subject of what government is supposed
  295. 13:08to do
  296. 13:08once it's conformed the Declaration of
  297. 13:11Independence has a nice formulation to
  298. 13:14secure these rights governments are
  299. 13:17instituted among men to secure these
  300. 13:20rights what does that mean what does
  301. 13:23security of Rights mean you can also
  302. 13:26look at the state constitutions and say
  303. 13:29how did they describe the purpose of
  304. 13:32government was it the same was it
  305. 13:34security of Rights and the answer is
  306. 13:36well they used sometimes they often they
  307. 13:38use different language one of the terms
  308. 13:40that was often used as the to explain
  309. 13:42the purpose of government is the word
  310. 13:44protection protection is what the
  311. 13:50government is supposed to do
  312. 13:53meaning protection against harm to your
  313. 13:57own life liberty and property and that
  314. 13:59protection is to vest two sides it's the
  315. 14:05side of the national government against
  316. 14:07against the outsiders potential foreign
  317. 14:10attack and protection against your
  318. 14:13fellow citizens who might harm you in
  319. 14:16the in arm your life labor to your
  320. 14:18property because of their because
  321. 14:20they're misbehaving so protection
  322. 14:25there's a let me just give you an
  323. 14:27example from the Virginia Declaration of
  324. 14:28Rights government ought to be instituted
  325. 14:30for the common benefit protection and
  326. 14:33security of the people nation or
  327. 14:35community so that's what to secure these
  328. 14:38rights means protection benefit of
  329. 14:41protection and security of the peak of
  330. 14:42the people nation or community again the
  331. 14:45emphasis is not on is on it's on our
  332. 14:47people the government is not protecting
  333. 14:50people in Mexico or Canada or elsewhere
  334. 14:53in the world that's a subject that is
  335. 14:55often misunderstood today there's an
  336. 14:57assumption today that if there's human
  337. 14:58rights are universal it's the job of
  338. 15:00every government in the world to protect
  339. 15:01got rights all over the world the
  340. 15:03founders rejected that idea completely
  341. 15:05and totally another example from the New
  342. 15:10Jersey Constitution preamble the King of
  343. 15:13Great Britain has refused protection to
  344. 15:16the good people of these colonies
  345. 15:17therefore we have a right to revolution
  346. 15:20refused protection that was the one word
  347. 15:23you're not protecting us against injury
  348. 15:26and in fact as New Jersey went on to say
  349. 15:27is you're attacking us you're harming us
  350. 15:30you're harming our people you're putting
  351. 15:32soldiers here and shooting at us so then
  352. 15:36the question becomes alright what
  353. 15:38policies the government have to adopt in
  354. 15:40order to do this protecting of the
  355. 15:42people so the OP first point of course
  356. 15:48is protecting the fur outs ejectment
  357. 15:50projection against outsiders my means of
  358. 15:52armed forces by means of what we call
  359. 15:56foreign policy diplomacy statecraft
  360. 16:01negotiation perhaps making alliances but
  361. 16:03in the end it comes down to do you have
  362. 16:06sold
  363. 16:06in the field who can physically defeat a
  364. 16:09potential or an actual threat to the
  365. 16:13life liberty and property of American
  366. 16:14citizens so this first part of
  367. 16:18governments protection protection or
  368. 16:20protective duty is about armed forces
  369. 16:24and that of course does include border
  370. 16:27enforcement one of the points of having
  371. 16:30a nation of your own is it's for the
  372. 16:32people who live here anyone who wants to
  373. 16:34come here has to ask permission and
  374. 16:36permission is not automatic it's given
  375. 16:38again by consent of the governed by the
  376. 16:40consent of the people who live here the
  377. 16:44idea of a universal right to immigrate
  378. 16:46to a nation that says I don't want you
  379. 16:48here
  380. 16:48founders would have said no that's
  381. 16:50that's immoral that's a violation of the
  382. 16:53moral principle that all men are created
  383. 16:55equal and that we therefore who have
  384. 16:57created our own government have a moral
  385. 16:59right to say who will be our future
  386. 17:02fellow citizens that's our duty and our
  387. 17:05right not someone elses the second part
  388. 17:09of protection and what government has to
  389. 17:11do to protect is is to create laws
  390. 17:16against crimes that's the most urgent
  391. 17:19part of the of the domestic politics
  392. 17:21side of the founders argument and so one
  393. 17:25of the topics that came up early on in
  394. 17:27America in during the Revolution and in
  395. 17:31its aftermath was to create
  396. 17:34constitutions and laws to protect
  397. 17:37citizens criminal laws for example
  398. 17:41Jefferson had a great quote on that in
  399. 17:43his he put together a proposed revision
  400. 17:46of the laws of the state of Virginia in
  401. 17:501778 in which he states that it's
  402. 17:56precisely because vicious and immoral
  403. 17:59men who try to take away the rights of
  404. 18:02other people that we have criminal law
  405. 18:04and without criminal law he said the
  406. 18:06purpose of society would not be achieved
  407. 18:09by which he meant protection and
  408. 18:11security of life liberty and property so
  409. 18:13if you ask people today sometimes I'll
  410. 18:15ask my students how does the government
  411. 18:16secure our rights
  412. 18:18they'll often give you a statement like
  413. 18:20well that's what the Supreme Court is
  414. 18:22for and they have rules against
  415. 18:24discrimination and so on well the
  416. 18:27founders would say no government
  417. 18:30protects your rights not just through
  418. 18:32the judiciary but through all three
  419. 18:33branches of government you have to have
  420. 18:37a legislature to make laws you have to
  421. 18:40have an executive to carry out arrests
  422. 18:42and prosecutions and punishments and a
  423. 18:46judiciary to decide is this person who's
  424. 18:49accused by the government
  425. 18:51truly guilty or not guilty you need all
  426. 18:54three branches that's what makes
  427. 18:56government protection possible through
  428. 18:59criminal law and and that's what we see
  429. 19:03you know occasionally their TV shows
  430. 19:04based on this idea of you know trials
  431. 19:06people prosecute that's how it's
  432. 19:09supposed to work one of the
  433. 19:11characteristic features of government
  434. 19:13today in America is the D prioritization
  435. 19:17of criminal law enforcement not
  436. 19:22everywhere but especially in major
  437. 19:23cities of America today the ability of
  438. 19:28police and prosecutors to to find
  439. 19:33criminals prosecute them successfully
  440. 19:35and have them punished is minimal there
  441. 19:38are some cities in which the police if
  442. 19:42they're called out on a theft if you
  443. 19:44call the police inside somebody stole
  444. 19:45something out of my house they'll go
  445. 19:47okay well fill out a report for you you
  446. 19:49can take it to the insurance company but
  447. 19:51no we're not gonna look into it
  448. 19:53founding fathers would say you guys
  449. 19:55don't get what government is for it's
  450. 19:57for protection and protection means you
  451. 19:59have to deter crime by making it clear
  452. 20:02to people who commit crimes they're
  453. 20:04gonna pay a penalty so you know figure
  454. 20:08out why you know what what's wrong what
  455. 20:10happened why why do our priorities
  456. 20:12somehow go somewhere else and if you ask
  457. 20:14Police Department's today or prosecuting
  458. 20:16RIT they'll say well we don't have a
  459. 20:18budget for it
  460. 20:19which means something has gone wrong at
  461. 20:21the level of the state legislature or at
  462. 20:23the level of city government that we're
  463. 20:25got money is being spent on something
  464. 20:28less than there's a lower priority
  465. 20:31than actual protection of the lives and
  466. 20:35properties of citizens that's a problem
  467. 20:37from the point of view of the founders
  468. 20:38but it is the way we do government today
  469. 20:42one could sum up the founders conception
  470. 20:46of law enforcement that was developed
  471. 20:48during the revolution in in to fray in
  472. 20:51two phrases equal protection of the laws
  473. 20:53and due process of law equal protection
  474. 20:58meaning and the founders view equal
  475. 20:59protection meant when there's there's
  476. 21:02going to be a rule a general rule that
  477. 21:04applies to everybody it will define what
  478. 21:07crimes are and will say what the
  479. 21:08penalties are going to be and
  480. 21:09government's duty is to provide equal
  481. 21:12protection so no matter how wealthy the
  482. 21:15perpetrator might be what race he might
  483. 21:17be or the sex of the person committing
  484. 21:19the crime government has the same
  485. 21:22obligation to prosecute and punish in
  486. 21:24the same way anyone who does that who
  487. 21:26commits the crime that's a that's
  488. 21:31fundamental but precisely because
  489. 21:34government is so strong and powerful
  490. 21:36when it's engaging in this activity of
  491. 21:38protecting it also needs to follow
  492. 21:41procedures called due process of law
  493. 21:43meaning you don't just take somebody and
  494. 21:47punish them without giving them a chance
  495. 21:49to defend themselves so government has
  496. 21:51to prove its case in theory at least in
  497. 21:53court for any significant punishment to
  498. 21:56take place for person to be deprived of
  499. 21:59liberty or property or money trial a
  500. 22:04right to defend the right to call
  501. 22:06witnesses a right to speak to about to a
  502. 22:09cross examine to deal with whatever you
  503. 22:14need to do bring forward whatever you
  504. 22:16need to bring forward in order to show
  505. 22:18if you can I didn't do that I wasn't I'm
  506. 22:21not guilty
  507. 22:23those two concepts equal protection of
  508. 22:26the law and due process of law
  509. 22:27were later embodied in Fourteenth
  510. 22:29Amendment which was meant to take the
  511. 22:32basic founders political theory of what
  512. 22:34government supposed to do that was
  513. 22:36developed during the American Revolution
  514. 22:37and then apply it to the States each
  515. 22:41state was from then on obliged by the
  516. 22:43federal cost
  517. 22:44tuition to provide the same protection
  518. 22:48of the laws and of the new process of
  519. 22:52law that that was already required and
  520. 22:56expected at the federal level in its own
  521. 22:58law enforcement jurisdiction one of the
  522. 23:00early debates in America was over do we
  523. 23:03need a federal government and if so what
  524. 23:06should be its scope and its powers the
  525. 23:10founders came up with a very simple way
  526. 23:12of dividing up that labor the federal
  527. 23:15government was going to be primarily
  528. 23:16responsible for foreign policy the state
  529. 23:19governments for domestic policy with
  530. 23:22some exceptions but basically the
  531. 23:25federal government didn't really have a
  532. 23:27whole lot to do in early American
  533. 23:28history other than foreign policy now
  534. 23:32there were some exceptions to that the
  535. 23:34state's government federal government
  536. 23:36was given some powers to regulate
  537. 23:37commerce to basically to maintain a
  538. 23:41national free market and so on but that
  539. 23:44those were general exceptions generally
  540. 23:46the states handled things having to do
  541. 23:47with property law commerce and contracts
  542. 23:53things of that kind and I'll be talking
  543. 23:56about that and a talk I give later on in
  544. 23:58the series today when we teach American
  545. 24:05government in college we often tend to
  546. 24:09focus on the national government that's
  547. 24:12of course the exciting part the big you
  548. 24:14know the one that everyone notices and
  549. 24:16of course today the feds have become so
  550. 24:19important we tend to forget the role of
  551. 24:21the states which still remains quite
  552. 24:23powerful even today I believe I believe
  553. 24:27the percentage of court cases that are
  554. 24:30handled at the federal and versus the
  555. 24:32state level is about that's over ninety
  556. 24:34percent still our state court cases so
  557. 24:36most law most law enforcement most legal
  558. 24:39issues come up not at the federal level
  559. 24:42at all and that is how they designed it
  560. 24:46and to that extent it still there's to
  561. 24:48some extent that same division of labor
  562. 24:50still prevails
  563. 24:52one of the things that John Quincy Adams
  564. 24:55pointed out in a famous speech he gave
  565. 24:58on July fourth eighteen eighteen twenty
  566. 25:01one was that they you know that the
  567. 25:05Revolution the American Revolution had
  568. 25:07its heroes and of course what everyone
  569. 25:10tends to think of things like George
  570. 25:12Washington the others great generals of
  571. 25:14that period the the soldiers the people
  572. 25:19who sacrifice their lives to create an
  573. 25:21independent nation and that's truth Adam
  574. 25:24says that was true but what he adds to
  575. 25:27that is he says you know there are other
  576. 25:30people who were also heroes of the
  577. 25:32American Revolution and we don't tend to
  578. 25:34acknowledge that those are the people he
  579. 25:36said who figured out how to write the
  580. 25:38constitutions and the laws state and
  581. 25:41federal that have given us our Liberty
  582. 25:44and enable us to sustain that Liberty
  583. 25:46they said they're heroes too because
  584. 25:48that's not easy to do I want to conclude
  585. 25:51this talk by asking the question what
  586. 25:53then was America meant to be its time of
  587. 25:56the founding and I want to emphasize
  588. 25:59again ideas are not people the ideas of
  589. 26:03the American Revolution were indeed
  590. 26:04unique to the American Revolution but
  591. 26:06those ideas are meant to be universal
  592. 26:08for all mankind but it was a particular
  593. 26:12people it was these people over in
  594. 26:14America the British settlers other
  595. 26:17Europeans were here predominantly
  596. 26:19Europeans who made the nation what it
  597. 26:22was and they were not randomly assembled
  598. 26:26from all around the world one of the
  599. 26:29things the founders were very conscious
  600. 26:30of is how difficult it is to establish
  601. 26:33and sustain a political regime there's a
  602. 26:36it's going to be a free regime a free a
  603. 26:38freedom regime of freedom John J in
  604. 26:43Federalist to points out that a that
  605. 26:46Americans really do belong together
  606. 26:49not just because they held the same
  607. 26:51political principles and he does mention
  608. 26:52that but also because they are quote a
  609. 26:55people descended from the same ancestors
  610. 26:58speaking the same language professing
  611. 27:01the same religion attached to the same
  612. 27:03principles of government very similar
  613. 27:06in their manners and customs and Jays
  614. 27:11point partly was if it hadn't been for
  615. 27:13all those things we already had in
  616. 27:15common prior to forming the Union we
  617. 27:18might not have been able to do it
  618. 27:21liberty is only possible to be
  619. 27:23established in the founders minds if the
  620. 27:26people are capable of supporting Liberty
  621. 27:28and living according to the requirements
  622. 27:31of Liberty
  623. 27:32there are many cultures in the world
  624. 27:34today and there were then to where the
  625. 27:37people who live in these places don't
  626. 27:39like freedom and to have no experience
  627. 27:41of freedom the founders in fact doubted
  628. 27:44openly whether places like Latin America
  629. 27:47or even some places in Europe could ever
  630. 27:49maintain a regime of political freedom
  631. 27:52natural rights belong to everyone in the
  632. 27:55founders view but it you have the right
  633. 28:00obviously the right to create a free
  634. 28:03country but you don't always have the
  635. 28:04ability to it depends on who lives there
  636. 28:06and what their attitudes are and how
  637. 28:08good their leadership is in some cases
  638. 28:15the founders pointed out you can't have
  639. 28:18consent of the governed if you're going
  640. 28:20to have any kind of protection of the
  641. 28:21rights of the individual there was a
  642. 28:24revolution in Haiti that took place
  643. 28:26during the 1790s and people the founding
  644. 28:29was saying they're not going to be able
  645. 28:31to have a free government there they're
  646. 28:32not gonna have election you can't have
  647. 28:34an elective government in Haiti probably
  648. 28:35a military despotisms the best they're
  649. 28:37going to do that was the quote from
  650. 28:40Hamilton and Jefferson held the same
  651. 28:43view when in get asked about Latin
  652. 28:45America in the eighteen 1820s he said
  653. 28:47look this is place it's gonna be really
  654. 28:49difficult to form any kind of solid
  655. 28:54lasting free government there I hope
  656. 28:57they can do it he said they ought to
  657. 28:58they deserve it but it's going to be
  658. 29:00tough the founders had answers as to how
  659. 29:04to keep the population morally capable
  660. 29:07of being free they didn't think it would
  661. 29:10work everywhere but they did think it
  662. 29:12would work here
  663. 29:13I'll talk about that later in the series
  664. 29:17thank you
  665. 29:22you

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