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0:12Good evening.
0:15Well, it is a joy to see you and a joy
0:18to celebrate this reality that is Christ
0:22in us, which has allowed me to enjoy Him
0:26in all things and see Christ through you
0:29.
0:30So, I am home.
0:32The house is Christ. We dwell in Him.
0:37We are God’s inheritance.
0:40So, if you will join me, we can pray.
0:46Lord, in the name of Jesus Christ, You
0:47seated us at Your table, though we did
0:49not deserve it.
0:51We entered into Your Son by pure grace.
0:55We received the blessing that was not
0:58meant for us because there was a
1:00substitute, and now, because He is holy
1:03, we are also holy. And because He lives
1:06, we also live, Lord.
1:09Lord, we are completely willing for
1:12something eternal and spiritual to
1:15transform us forever, until the end of
1:18time, by pure grace and for the glory of
1:21Your holy name.
1:22In the name of Christ Jesus.
1:24Amen.
1:26Amen. Well,
1:30I want to share with you, I believe,
1:33that we are going to spend a precious
1:35time eating from the bread of life.
1:40We will have time for questions and
1:43answers, so I encourage you to write
1:45down any question you have, because
1:48after each plenary session, there will
1:51be a time we call "living," right?
1:55For questions and answers.
1:58Remember that this doesn't always happen
2:00in these settings, right?
2:03So, as my mom used to say when we went
2:05to a party, she would tell me, "Eat now
2:06, because when we go home, there’s
2:07nothing."
2:10This is the moment. Is that okay?
2:13One of the things I want
2:16to say is why a "reality conference,"
2:21right?
2:23What is reality?
2:26The reality we are referring to has to
2:29do with that which is the only thing God
2:32calls real.
2:35The word used in Scripture 110 times in
2:38the New Testament is the word*aletheia*
2:41.
2:43The word*aletheia*is a truth that was
2:45hidden, but now there is an uncovering
2:48of that truth, which is the only thing
2:51God calls truth.
2:53In other words, God the Father was
2:55seeing a reality before everything was
2:58created.
3:01He was seeing in eternity His own
3:03glorified Son and, in Him, a people.
3:07We were known in Him before everything
3:10was created.
3:12What the Father was seeing is what He
3:15was going to reveal to the saints, to
3:18those who now have the nature of Christ
3:20and the mind of Christ to have access by
3:24faith to that reality.
3:26The first one to whom God reveals this
3:28reality is the apostle Paul.
3:30It says, "I know a man in the body, or
3:33out of the body, I do not know.
3:35God knows, who was caught up to the
3:37third heaven, who was caught up to
3:39paradise and saw
3:42that which the Father always saw in his
3:44own Son.
3:45And now that mystery which was hidden
3:48from eternal times, is now unveiled and
3:51brought to the sight of all the saints,
3:54of all who come to him.
3:58It is
4:00the only thing God calls, right?
4:03So, when Jesus came, he said," I am the
4:06truth.
4:07"In other words, he did not come to
4:09speak about the truth, he came to bear
4:12witness to the truth.
4:14He was, I mean, he came to bear witness
4:16of himself. Everything that is true
4:19proceeds from him, who is the substance
4:21of the truth.
4:22And that truth is now in his own body.
4:26He imparted himself in life
4:30and everything that we now carry is the
4:32nature of all that the Father saw before
4:34everything was created and what God
4:36calls truth.
4:39The truth can now be seen.
4:43And where is it?
4:45In us, in those who are in Christ.
4:47But how do we access that truth?
4:50Well, we are going to talk about that
4:52because that mystery which was hidden
4:53from eternal times, God now reveals to
4:55the saints.
4:58So, how many times does one ask
5:01themselves, I mean, I hear so many
5:03brothers say," But why does what others
5:07live or what others see not happen to me
5:10? "
5:12Because I am still in that need, in that
5:15hunger, in that desire to be able to see
5:18what others communicate, right?
5:22And without a doubt, we must understand
5:24that that is where the deception is
5:26placed, that is where the virus is
5:28placed, right?
5:32We will see it in this time that we are
5:35going to share, because it is not the
5:38same to have it solved in my head.
5:42Well, it is not the same to have it
5:44solved in my head as it is to have
5:47access to eternal realities.
5:49I mean, to have access to eternal
5:51reality, I have to be born in an eternal
5:53realm. I mean, in order for me to access
5:55an eternal realm, God had to eternalize
5:57me. I mean, he had to put me in the
5:59eternal, make me one with him. And give
6:01me his own nature, his mind, his heart.
6:06I mean, everything God has to reveal
6:09about himself he has already given us
6:12and it is in us, but it is in an eternal
6:15realm.
6:16I mean, what does that mean? That we are
6:18accustomed to knowing all things in the
6:20natural realm. we connect with people,
6:23we learn, we know how to learn, we have
6:26gone to school, everything that our
6:29body's nature possesses, knowledge is
6:32within it, right? I mean, if a baby is
6:34born,
6:36they are not born with a little bit of
6:38life, they are born with all of life.
6:41Life isn't being added to them; they
6:43have all of life. But what is it that
6:45grows in the baby?
6:47The expression of that life. At first
6:50they don't know how to speak, later they
6:51learn to speak. They don't know how to
6:53walk, later they learn to walk. They
6:55learn to eat all by themselves. And
6:56where is that knowledge? It is in their
6:58own nature.
6:59As soon as the baby is born, the mother
7:00puts them to her breast and they start
7:02to eat. And how do they know?
7:04I mean, how?
7:06Who taught a beaver to build dams?
7:09That is, that knowledge is in the nature
7:11.
7:12When God gives us His nature, within it
7:15is all the knowledge of the Christ who
7:18dwells in us.
7:20That is why
7:23the prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel say,"
7:25No longer will anyone tell their brother
7:27, 'Know God.' "Because, where is the
7:29only one who reveals
7:31inside us? I mean, the only teacher is
7:34the Holy Spirit of God. So, I cannot
7:36show you Christ, I can bear witness to
7:38Him.
7:40But if the Holy Spirit does not
7:42intervene, what we hear just goes into a
7:44library in our minds.
7:47But that is not knowing Him, that is not
7:49seeing Him.
7:51And we need the illumination of the
7:54knowledge of the glory of God.
7:57Where? In the person, in the face of
7:59Jesus Christ.
8:01Listen, this is real. This is the
8:04reality of God.
8:05So it says that the eyes of our—where—
8:09should be enlightened, that is, the
8:12understanding of what mind.
8:16What does the apostle say now? What do
8:18we have? The mind of
8:21the mind we have now, which is the mind
8:23of Christ.
8:26Christ is the light that illuminates
8:28that mind, which produces an
8:29understanding, and we are transformed
8:31through the renewal of that
8:33understanding.
8:35Is that okay? Everything happens in an
8:39eternal and spiritual realm.
8:41And what Jesus said, you are no longer
8:44of this world, just as I am not of this
8:47world.
8:49You were born from above, you were born
8:51of the Spirit.
8:53I mean, the church is 100%spiritual, it
8:55is not of this world, it does not live
8:57in this world.
8:59The church is, I mean, a pilgrim in this
9:02world,
9:05it is an ambassador of heaven.
9:08We are bringing the reality of heaven to
9:10earth.
9:12Is that okay? That is the design we
9:15carry,
9:18but we will not see it or be able to act
9:21on it, unless the eyes of our
9:23understanding are enlightened so that we
9:25may access it.
9:27It may be that I am not seeing it yet, I
9:30still haven't had that enlightenment.
9:32That may happen in time, but the
9:34transformation is not waiting for time,
9:36it is waiting for faith.
9:39Through faith we have access to that
9:41reality.
9:42So, I want to talk to you about this
9:44because the true misfortune would be to
9:46have life and not know it, right?
9:51Eh, and believe me that what I am
9:54telling you is the concern at the
9:56gravitational axis of all apostolic
9:59concern.
10:03You have to understand that a life was
10:06given to you and a spirit was given to
10:09you.
10:11The Holy Spirit of God and the only
10:13function He has is to make known to you
10:15the life that was granted to you, right
10:17?
10:20So, uh
10:24as I know and even from the testimony of
10:27many of you,
10:30there are brothers among us who are just
10:33entering into the knowledge of the Lord
10:35and there are others who have been in
10:38this understanding for some time.
10:42So, if you allow me, I am even open to
10:44you raising your hands, there is no
10:46problem, although there will be a time
10:49for that, but it is important to create
10:51a table of grace where we can all eat of
10:53the bread of life. Is that okay?
10:56So, I want, I cannot go back too far,
10:59but I want to set some fundamental
11:01aspects for understanding.
11:05Just now Ernesto was saying so that we
11:08can understand how to grasp the reality
11:12in which we are living in Christ.
11:17The Old Testament is the announcement
11:22of a salvation, of a life that was going
11:24to be manifested
11:27in the gospels. That life became
11:30incarnate and dwelt among us and we saw
11:33that glory.
11:36In the apostolic letters that life dies
11:38, rises again and is imparted as life.
11:44And now the apostolic letters are
11:46bearing witness about that life that was
11:48imparted.
11:50This is the mystery that was hidden from
11:52eternal times, Christ in us.
11:55Is that okay? But now the head, which is
11:58Christ, is complete.
11:59But what needs to be completed?
12:01The body. In other words, Christ must be
12:04formed in where?
12:05In us.
12:09The body has to be, it is in full, full
12:12formation.
12:14Until when?
12:16Until the full manifestation of that man
12:18.
12:20Is that okay?
12:22And what is the Apocalypse?
12:24It is the book of the revelation of the
12:26person of Jesus Christ.
12:27And what does it speak of? Of things
12:29that are going to happen. It is not
12:31speaking of the revelation of the person
12:33of Jesus Christ. What does that mean?
12:37It is speaking of the full manifestation
12:39of that which began in His resurrection
12:42.
12:43It began as a formation and now it is
12:45revealing.
12:47You will see that all the figures that
12:49are in Revelation are the same figures
12:51that are in the Old Testament, only one
12:53was an announcement and this one is in
12:55its full manifestation.
12:58Amen.
13:00That is the order.
13:02So, the fact that there are figures,
13:05types, and shadows in the Old Testament
13:09allows us to be able to understand
13:12truths that can only be revealed by the
13:16Holy Spirit. This means that what is in
13:19the apostolic letters is completely
13:21foreign, that is, it is unattainable to
13:24the natural mind.
13:26That is why we fill ourselves with
13:29imaginations, because only, that is,
13:31what the apostle Paul says," No one knew
13:33the things of God except by the Spirit
13:36of God. "How many? No one.
13:40So, we need the work of the Spirit to be
13:43able to see the reality that the
13:45apostles are revealing.
13:48Is that okay?
13:50So, that is irreplaceable, but the
13:53announcement is in the form of a figure
13:56, right?
13:57I mean, if I were to put on my cell
14:01phone a photo of Ernesto and ask," Who
14:05is this? "What would you tell me?
14:09But it is not Ernesto. Ernesto is over
14:11there.
14:12I mean, it is completely identifiable.
14:15You can identify him, it is clear, but
14:17it is a photo.
14:19We can all clearly identify Christ in
14:21the Old Testament, but it is not him.
14:24It is a photo that bears witness
14:28to Christ.
14:31I mean, I can have all the information
14:33about him, but we are no longer learning
14:35about Christ, we are learning Christ.
14:39We learn a person. That is nature.
14:42And God governs nature.
14:46It is not a law written in stone, it is
14:49not a law written on paper, it is a law
14:52of the spirit of life.
14:54It is a person.
14:57So there we proceed by the spirit.
15:00But I want to talk to you about our
15:03salvation and I want to bring it in the
15:06form of figures, so that we can
15:08understand it better and understand the
15:11revelation about it.
15:16The story of the exodus is a perfect
15:20figure of our salvation.
15:23If we understand this, we will
15:25understand many questions that are asked
15:27about salvation.
15:29and the life that we carry.
15:31So if you allow me, I passed you a chart
15:34, let's see if it's around there.
15:38There it is. Look, you are going to
15:40follow me.
15:43The story of our salvation in the exodus
15:46, that is how God sees it.
15:50You will be able to understand something
15:52that is very, very important.
15:55The Lord says to him," Call Moses. "and
15:58he says to him,
16:03Well, he listens, I mean, remember the
16:06story, I mean, Israel was in slavery in
16:09Egypt and God hears the cry and says," I
16:12have heard the cry of my people.
16:16"" And he tells him, he calls Moses and
16:19says to him, listen, in Exodus 3:10 it
16:21says, "Come,
16:25therefore, now and I will send you to
16:27Pharaoh."
16:29First point, that you may bring my
16:31people out of Egypt.
16:33First point, that you may bring them out
16:36, alright?
16:38I mean, he didn't send him to negotiate
16:40the terms.
16:43I mean, he didn't send him to say, "
16:46Look, go talk to Pharaoh so he improves
16:49their quality of work, of pay, of
16:51schedules."
16:54He didn't come to bring any solution to
16:57this world, he came to bring judgment to
17:00this world, which is completely the
17:02opposite.
17:05Chapter 4, verse 22 says, "You shall say
17:08to Pharaoh, thus says the Lord, Israel
17:11is my son.
17:14Israel is my firstborn." Who is Israel?
17:18Look, this is key.
17:19First, knowing that whenever God is
17:21talking about the Israel of the Bible,
17:23he is always talking about his son.
17:25And who is his son today?
17:27It is his church.
17:29I mean, what came up from under the
17:31earth in his resurrection was a
17:33corporate son, where he is the head and
17:36we are the body.
17:39Therefore, when God is speaking in this
17:42story, when God speaks of his son, who
17:44is he talking about?
17:47When he speaks of Israel, who is he
17:48talking about?
17:49He is talking about us. Amen.
17:53>> God has only one son. Only one son. God
17:56has his only begotten son.
18:00One.
18:02But so that we could be saved, he had to
18:04place us in the son.
18:06Do you remember the story of Jacob and
18:10Esau?
18:13The only one who could receive the
18:14blessing was the firstborn.
18:17There is a story of deception there,
18:20right?
18:21Jacob disguises himself as the firstborn
18:26and deceives his father, and the father
18:28gives him his blessing. The figure of
18:30Jacob
18:33speaks of us.
18:35We did not deserve the blessing, we were
18:39not the firstborn, but we put on the
18:42firstborn's garment to receive the
18:45Father's blessing.
18:48And now in Christ we have been blessed
18:49with every spiritual blessing. And now
18:52the only begotten, out of love, becomes
18:55the firstborn among many brothers.
18:59That is why, since we are in the
19:01firstborn, we are the assembly of the
19:03firstborn, as the author of Hebrews says
19:05.
19:08Amen.
19:09So, Israel is my son, he is my firstborn
19:13.
19:14Amen.
19:17And he says this,
19:20"And I have told you, let my son go that
19:23he may serve me."
19:24All right. First point,
19:29uh,
19:31how many serve God?
19:36Listen, always try or let us try, let us
19:41always try to identify which library we
19:46are looking in, uh, because sometimes
19:50the answer is exactly before our eyes.
19:57We read a verse and I ask what the verse
19:59says and the brethren answer me
20:00something else.
20:05We are reading it, but an image
20:07immediately triggers from concepts we
20:10have learned that have been installed.
20:14It is as if we pressed a button.
20:16Only one serves. Who brings out my son?
20:19What for do I
20:21>> Who serves?
20:23The Son. Nothing else.
20:25It means, and what you are saying
20:28clearly, notice that the only one who
20:32builds the house is Him.
20:35And if it is not so, in vain do all the
20:38builders labor.
20:40No one can serve God if it is not the
20:42Son.
20:46No one can give anything to God if it is
20:48not the Son.
20:50In other words, service does not proceed
20:52from us.
20:54It proceeds from Him.
20:56All right? I mean, listen, service is
20:59something that proceeds from Him and
21:02returns to Him.
21:04What is praise? Praise is the fragrant
21:07aroma of Christ. That's what the
21:09apostles say, right? I always say this
21:12because Ernesto and I are from the
21:14generation that said pastors had to
21:17smell like sheep, remember?
21:19In a sense, it's diabolical, truly, it's
21:22ignorance.
21:24But what should pastors smell like?
21:28Like Christ. And the sheep.
21:31Of course.
21:32The treasure of the gospel is not us, it
21:34is Christ. That is why He placed us in
21:36the Son.
21:37Amen.
21:38That is what we are.
21:40It means that a power operates in us to
21:42express the only thing that serves God.
21:45It is the Son who dwells in us, who
21:49produces a working, who produces a
21:52building up.
21:54and who produces a desire for the
21:56Father's will, for God's eternal purpose
21:59.
22:01That is why He in us is the expression
22:03of God's complete purpose
22:07in His own substance, producing the
22:09building up, producing the working, and
22:11producing the desire for that working.
22:15It becomes our delight.
22:18All right? What is worship?
22:21Jesus said, "This, this is the hour.
22:23It is now that true worshipers will
22:25worship the Father in spirit and in
22:27truth. Why? Because the only one who
22:29worships, what is He?
22:31He is.
22:33In other words, worship proceeds from
22:35God and returns to Him.
22:38That is why it is grace. Amen.
22:41In other words, what God is demanding of
22:44us is exactly what He previously granted
22:46us.
22:48That is why it is so important to be
22:50able to understand this, because
22:52otherwise one is bringing to God
22:53something of the nature that He abhors.
22:58Do you understand me? One wants to bring
23:01something from their own heart, from
23:04their own will, to God, and they bring
23:07it from a nature that God abhors.
23:11It’s like someone taking a grenade,
23:13pulling the pin, and throwing it, and
23:15your dog goes and brings it back to you
23:18.
23:19No, no, no. You throw it again, and he
23:20goes and brings it back to you.
23:22In other words, we are bringing
23:24something to God that God already took
23:27to judgment, that God already removed on
23:30the cross.
23:32Now God has no relationship with the
23:35flesh, no relationship with the natural
23:38man; He only has communion with the Son
23:41.
23:42Amen. So God hears the cry of His people
23:45,
23:46and they say," Well, find a lamb, "a
23:49figure of whom?
23:50Of Christ.
23:52And they are going to choose it.
23:54It must be perfect, without blemish,
23:57chosen at a specific time, sacrificed at
23:59a specific time.
24:02With its blood, they are to paint the
24:04lintel and the doorposts of a door. Who
24:07is that door?
24:09Christ opens a door back to the Father,
24:14a perpetual door.
24:16How many of you have sung saying" let
24:19the heavens open "?
24:22Well, heaven opened 2,000 years ago. For
24:24God, in God’s eternity, He opened it.
24:26When that door appeared, and He is the
24:29door, heaven opened. For everyone who
24:31wants to go to Him, He is the way back
24:33to the Father.
24:35It is Christ, it is the return home,
24:37beloved. That is the reality. Open a
24:40door. He is that door. It had to be
24:42painted in blood.
24:44Whose blood does that speak of?
24:46Of Christ's.
24:48And the family had to enter through that
24:50door.
24:51Is that okay?
24:53And when they entered, when they entered
24:55through that door, salvation was already
24:57consummated.
24:59Death could no longer touch them.
25:02Is that okay?
25:04But there is a detail that is
25:06fundamental in this.
25:08All the firstborn died in Israel. How
25:11many?
25:12>> All of them.
25:14Only, when they passed by and saw a door
25:17painted in blood, it said," Here a
25:19firstborn died. "There was a substitute
25:22.
25:23Therefore, the one who was inside the
25:24door did not die. Why? Because already
25:27someone, a firstborn, had died in his
25:29place.
25:31Amen.
25:32In other words, the cross has a
25:34substitutionary meaning.
25:37Christ died for us.
25:40But there was something else to do:
25:42inside the house, they had to eat of the
25:45lamb.
25:47And that speaks
25:50of the inclusive meaning of the cross.
25:53What does that mean? They had to
25:55participate in his death.
25:58That is why the Lord says," He who eats
26:00my body and drinks my blood has
26:02communion with me.
26:04"That is to say, it becomes one, it has
26:07a common union.
26:10What happens in Christ is that it is now
26:14one life, one mind, one purpose, one
26:18heart, one life.
26:22They were joined in his death.
26:24And Paul says, see that we died together
26:27with him.
26:29That is, we are dead to the old nature
26:33and alive in Christ Jesus.
26:36Amen.
26:38So, that is understood, right?
26:40That is, it means it is not that he died
26:43and set us aside so that we could live,
26:46but rather that when he comes to death,
26:49when he faces death, he places us in him
26:52.
26:54And when he dies, we die together with
26:57him. So that when he rose, we rose
27:00together with him.
27:02I mean, what does that mean?
27:05We do not die our death, we die his
27:09death, united, being one with him.
27:14We die his death for today, so that
27:16today Christ may be our life.
27:19Therefore, there is no longer a" me "
27:21and Christ.
27:23Not anymore. Now it is one life, it is
27:25Christ who is our life.
27:30Amen. Look, this changes everything,
27:33because we cannot measure
27:37the magnitude of everything that
27:39happened on that cross and of everything
27:41that our union with Christ means.
27:45That is why we need the glorious
27:47intervention of the Spirit of God to be
27:49able to see, because all the time, until
27:52the Lord comes to get us, we will be
27:54dismantling imaginations, uh, because
27:57everything we have not seen, we imagine
27:59.
28:01So, our mind, our soul is a factory of
28:05imaginations, because it carries a
28:09permanent desire. You get up in the
28:12morning and you are already dealing with
28:14your desires, what I want to do, what I
28:15do not want to do, what I like, what I
28:17do not like.
28:19We face responsibilities, but there are
28:21things and we start to define ourselves
28:24by what we feel and we live so much in
28:26the areas of emotions that we begin to
28:28think that we are what we feel, but our
28:30senses were led astray.
28:33The natural man has all his senses
28:35astray from sincere faithfulness to
28:37Christ, from the will of God, from the
28:39government of God,
28:42but everything all the time tries to
28:44define us.
28:46And the gospel did not come to deal with
28:48what we feel, but it came to deliver us
28:51from the deception that the senses
28:53produce before the truth.
28:56We are not what we feel; we are who we
28:59truly are in Christ, what God says we
29:02are in Him.
29:05Therefore, who we are in Him must be
29:08revealed to us.
29:11We must gain our identity in our reality
29:14, in that which is only real to God.
29:19Hm.
29:21So, how did God leave us completely
29:23defined on that cross?
29:26This is also extremely important because
29:29either we are shaped by our
29:31circumstances or by the cross, or we
29:33understand that the cross left us
29:36completely defined in Him.
29:39We need to go to the foot of the cross
29:42to gain our identity in Christ, because
29:45He is now our life.
29:47Amen.
29:48Uh,
29:51well, if you could show the graphic for
29:52a moment, it says, uh,
29:56well, it's the image of Egypt, the image
30:01of death, of slavery, of a tyrannical
30:06king, of work without rest, uh,
30:12of fear, of control.
30:15Now they entered through that door, they
30:18participated in the death of the lamb,
30:21and now they pass in His resurrection
30:23through the Red Sea,
30:27entering into what God calls life.
30:30The desert is life. Now, the point is
30:34this.
30:36When Israel is in the desert, you are
30:39following me, right?
30:42Israel is in the desert, but Egypt is no
30:44longer there. Egypt died in the Red Sea
30:47.
30:47Pharaoh is no longer there; he is gone.
30:50But where was Egypt?
30:53>> In the heart of Israel.
30:55Listen, because this is talking about us
30:57. Do you understand that?
31:01It means Israel was no longer in Egypt,
31:04but their heart was still configured to
31:07Egypt.
31:09And then something tremendous happens.
31:12Moses goes up the mountain, takes too
31:14long to come down, and Israel makes a
31:17golden calf.
31:20But listen, it's not talking about
31:22another God. It doesn't say it was
31:23another God. For them, that calf was the
31:26Lord of hosts.
31:29In other words, they said," This is the
31:30God who brought us out of the slavery of
31:32Egypt. "What was the problem Israel had
31:34?
31:35They were saved.
31:38They already had life, but they didn't
31:41know
31:43their salvation. They didn't know the
31:45God who had brought them out of death
31:47and the slavery of sin.
31:49So what they didn't know, what did they
31:51do? They imagined it.
31:53And what did they bring? The images of
31:55the gods of Egypt,
31:58and they created a golden calf.
32:00Listen, this is key. Why is it key?
32:05Because if we are not knowing the life
32:07that has already been granted to us,
32:09what do we have in our minds?
32:13A golden calf.
32:15We are imagining God because we don't
32:18know God by reading the Bible.
32:21The only one who reveals the Son is the
32:23Spirit of God. No one knows the things
32:25of God except by the Spirit of God.
32:27The scriptures bear witness to that life
32:30. Is that okay?
32:32So we explained, Jesus takes 40 days
32:35between the resurrection and the
32:37ascension.
32:40And it says he did it for two reasons.
32:43In those 40 days, he stayed to speak to
32:44them about the kingdom of God. He told
32:46them," Look, the kingdom of God is not a
32:48bunch of people believing in the same
32:49thing. It is me.
32:51The kingdom of God is me. I am going to
32:52leave and I am going to impart myself as
32:55life and I will dwell in you and you in
32:57me.
32:58I am going to be the head. And the head
33:00is a state of government, it is a
33:02kingdom that governs the multiple
33:04members.
33:05The kingdom of God is Christ as the head
33:08, governing the whole body.
33:11And the second reason why he stays 40
33:14days before the ascension, I am going to
33:16read it to you so you have it.
33:20He says it this way.
33:22In Luke 24:44 it says, "And he said to
33:24them, these are the words which I spoke
33:26to you while I was still with you,
33:32that everything written about me must be
33:35fulfilled."
33:36Where?
33:40In the law of Moses, in the prophets,
33:42and in the psalms. "
33:47Verse 45 says," Then he opened their
33:50understanding, that they might
33:52comprehend the scriptures.
33:57He was saying, look, Moses never spoke
33:59of anything other than me.
34:02The prophets never spoke of anything
34:04other than me.
34:08The psalms never spoke of anything other
34:09than me.
34:11All the scriptures bear witness of me.
34:17And he did not ascend until they
34:20understood what the function of the
34:22Scriptures was. It was to bear witness
34:25of him.
34:26So, it means the scriptures do not teach
34:29us how to live.
34:31The only one who teaches us, he says, "
34:33He will glorify me, for he will take of
34:35what is mine and declare it to you. He
34:38will teach you all the things that I
34:39have commanded you. In other words, the
34:42Spirit that dwells in us reveals to us
34:44the Son, the nature that possesses all
34:47knowledge. In other words, the
34:49Scriptures are bearing witness to whom?
34:51To the Christ who dwells in us.
34:54And then, and what do they say? What do
34:56the apostles say about the scriptures?
34:58What are the scriptures for? For
35:00correction, for reproof, to destroy
35:03injustice.
35:04So that the Christ who dwells in us, who
35:06is the perfect man, may be formed.
35:10Is that okay?
35:12So,
35:14what does it mean? If I haven't seen
35:16Christ,
35:21the one of whom the Scriptures testify,
35:23when I read the Scriptures I am reading
35:24true words,
35:28but if I didn't see Christ, I am filling
35:29them with imagination. I read true words
35:32, but I am loading them with my own
35:35content, with my own natural
35:37understanding.
35:41I am filling them with imagination. In
35:42other words, I am reading the Scripture
35:45, but in reality, I am looking at a
35:47golden calf.
35:51Unless the Spirit of God reveals to me
35:53the one of whom the Scriptures testify.
35:56Amen. Is that understood?
36:00So, any person who is not seeing Christ
36:03but is teaching the Scriptures,
36:09if he hasn't seen Christ, he is speaking
36:12from his own imaginations.
36:16So, every time God has to instill truth
36:18, He has to uninstall.
36:22And believe me, there is a power, a—
36:25everything that does not function
36:28organically in the church functions in
36:31the form of a pyramidal government.
36:35What is pyramidal government? It is,
36:37let's say, the Babylonian government. It
36:40is the Babylonian model. What does that
36:41mean?
36:42It is man trying to please God by his
36:46own means.
36:49It is man striving to do what God wants
36:53.
36:56Therefore, since there is a man who now
36:59has merit because he is striving to be
37:02good, obedient, right? The merit is in
37:05the person, right? And from there, the
37:08enlightened ones, the untouchables, are
37:11born, isn't that true? Those who receive
37:14the voice of God to bring it down to the
37:16people.
37:19In other words, at the tip of that
37:21pyramid there is a man, there is a
37:23ministry, there is a denomination, there
37:25is whatever,
37:27but the church is not a pyramid, it is a
37:29body,
37:31it is organic life.
37:35What does that mean? That everything
37:37that does not produce life, man
37:39substitutes with rules.
37:41Is that understood or not?
37:44I mean, because man needs to know what
37:48to do, but it’s not a" what, "it is a"
37:52who. "Do you understand?
37:55Paul says," Who will deliver me? He does
37:57not say, "What will deliver me or what
37:58do I have to do to deliver myself from
38:00this body of death? He says," Who will
38:02deliver me from this body of death? So
38:04there we see, look, there we see the
38:08sequence of Romans 7, 8, and 9, right?
38:13Romans 7 is a man who is in Christ, but
38:15wants to act
38:19by his own means saying: "I want to do
38:21this for God, and I realize that what I
38:24want to do, I do not do; and what I do
38:27not want to do, that I do, and I realize
38:30there is a law: the law of sin that
38:32dwells in me."
38:37In other words, there is a man who longs
38:39for the will of God, who desires the
38:41will of God.
38:43But he is operating in the wrong nature
38:45, which cannot.
38:48Romans 8, what does it say?
38:51That the Lord set us free from the law
38:54of sin and introduced us into a nature
38:56in which the law of the spirit of life
38:59operates.
39:03Where is the entire fulfillment of God's
39:05will and purpose found?
39:08And what does Romans 9 say?
39:11Listen, it says, look, this is the
39:13mystery that was hidden from eternal
39:15times, isn't it? And it is revealed to
39:17us. This is God's eternal purpose,
39:21that Christ, Christ is the firstborn
39:24among many brothers, and the goal is for
39:28Christ to be formed in the saints.
39:32Then we can understand
39:36that what does not proceed from life,
39:39someone will replace; man will replace
39:41it with laws. For example, if we wanted
39:44to organize, suppose a church, a
39:47congregation, one says, "Hey, we have
39:51many things to set in order, right?"
39:56Well, but if we create a structure of
40:00order, it is a structure that does not
40:03proceed from life, it proceeds from us.
40:08We are organizing ourselves, we say, "
40:10Well, let's appoint area leaders," and
40:12anyone, even if they haven't been born
40:14again, if you give them a task and they
40:16have good will, they will do it, but it
40:18does not proceed from life; it is our
40:20organization.
40:23Now,
40:25God is a God of order, isn't He?
40:29Meaning, as Christ grows, order grows,
40:34but that order proceeds from life.
40:37It is organic,
40:41but if a person is functioning in a
40:44disorganized way,
40:48if that order is not proceeding from
40:50life, someone will want to order your
40:51life; someone will have to tell you or
40:53someone will tell you how you must act.
41:00If, if the life of Christ in us does not
41:02produce decorum, meaning that what is
41:05seen externally is the reflection of
41:08what occurred internally,
41:12if God does not produce decorum in your
41:14life, someone will tell you how you have
41:16to dress, because the church, the house
41:18of God, no, but
41:21order, I mean, look, for example, the
41:23skeleton is a structure. The problem is
41:26not the structure. The problem is for
41:28the structure to be organic, to proceed
41:30from life. The skeleton in man is a
41:32structure, but it is organic.
41:36In other words, take a baby's skull: as
41:39the baby grows, the brain grows, the
41:41skull grows because it has life.
41:46But if you were to put a plastic skull
41:49on a baby, as the baby grows, what
41:51happens?
41:52It kills him.
41:55Every structure attacks life; any human
41:59structure lacks good will, but does not
42:02proceed from life.
42:08That is why it is irreplaceable to
42:10understand that Christ must be formed in
42:13the saints, because order proceeds from
42:15life, because decorum, the formation of
42:18His son, expresses the son.
42:21Amen.
42:22Oh, God.
42:27Now,
42:30now we are, please put up the graphic
42:32for me.
42:34Uh, now that we crossed the Red Sea and
42:37now Israel is in the desert, the problem
42:40with Israel is that Egypt is in their
42:43heart.
42:45They are indeed longing for the food of
42:49Egypt.
42:50I mean, why are they in the desert?
42:54Nothing.
42:57Now one asks,
43:00why didn't God bring the people of
43:03Israel directly into the promised land?
43:08Because God had to take Egypt out of
43:10their heart, because Egypt cannot enter
43:12the promised land.
43:15In other words, the cross operated.
43:18They take the graphic away, but it's a
43:21thing—Ah, because they are broadcasting
43:24.
43:25That might be why. Well, the cross
43:27operates, there you have it.
43:30The cross at the Red Sea and the cross
43:31at the Jordan River.
43:33The cross at the Red Sea is taking us
43:35from death to life.
43:38Is that okay?
43:40That is the tetelestai.
43:44I mean, the work is complete, but once
43:48they cross the the the Red Sea, the
43:51apostles no longer use the word
43:54tetelestai, they use a word that is from
43:58the family of tetelestai, which is
44:01teleion, which is the formation of
44:05Christ to the measure of the perfect man
44:08.
44:10Teleion.
44:12Right? In other words,
44:16the power that operates in us now is the
44:19cross that we see in the Jordan River,
44:22which is trying every day to take Egypt
44:25out of our heart to form Christ, to
44:27enter the promised land to the full
44:30knowledge of the life that was granted
44:33to us when we were transferred from
44:35death to life.
44:38Is that understood?
44:41But when Paul says, "I am crucified with
44:44Christ, so that it is no longer I who
44:47live, but Christ who lives in me," Paul
44:50is not saying, I am crucified to obtain
44:53life,
44:55but so that the life of Christ may be
44:57manifested in me. "In other words, what
45:00does that mean?
45:02The life of the crucified one was
45:04already in Paul.
45:07It is the seed. In other words, it was
45:09born.
45:10There was a birth. There is a seed. The
45:12seed is there, the life is in the seed.
45:15That is fine.
45:18But if that seed does not fall into the
45:20ground, life cannot be manifested.
45:24Is that okay? I mean, what does that
45:26mean? Suppose you take one—there are
45:28seeds that can last for thousands of
45:29years
45:32in the form of a seed, and if you put it
45:34in the ground, life is manifested,
45:37but the life is there, meaning the life
45:39was already in the seed, right?
45:42In other words, life comes to the soil
45:44of our soul in the form of a seed.
45:48The life of the spirit, where Christ
45:50joined with us in the spirit and now
45:52that reality must be formed in our soul
45:54. Is that okay?
45:56But it comes in the form of a seed, and
45:58there is a power, which is the power of
46:00His resurrection, operating within us.
46:05For what purpose?
46:06Paul says," I have counted all things as
46:08loss, everything as rubbish; I have lost
46:10everything in order to know Him. "" To
46:12know what? Christ as life, as our
46:15salvation. "To enter into full knowledge
46:19.
46:23To know Him and what else? And to know
46:25the power of His resurrection, that is,
46:27the power that operates in me so that it
46:29is no longer I, but Christ in me.
46:33And the power of the resurrection, what
46:34does it produce in me?
46:36The fellowship of His sufferings. What
46:38else?
46:41Being then conformed to Him in His death
46:44; where death operates, life operates.
46:48Amen.
46:50>> So, what does that seed mean?
46:53Suppose you meet someone in the form of
46:57a seed, use your imagination,
47:02and you go away and come back 15 years
47:04later and say," I've come to see
47:06so-and-so. "" You know him as a seed,
47:09right? "And now you come and there is a
47:13giant tree.
47:14You say," Who is this?
47:16"" It is the same life, the same person
47:19.
47:21"But when I left, he was just a little
47:23seed, and yes, it is the same life, only
47:26it was transformed.
47:29It is the glorification of that seed.
47:32And now in that tree there is fruit.
47:35And in the fruit, what is there?
47:37Seeds.
47:38What was the first seed that fell into
47:40the ground?
47:41Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth.
47:47Today, that seed grew, it bore more
47:49fruit, that fruit became other seeds
47:50that fell into the ground and it reaches
47:52us.
47:54The same life that operated in Christ,
47:56in Jesus as the seed, is the same life
47:58that we carry today.
48:02And each one of us is that seed that
48:04must fall into the ground for
48:05multiplication.
48:09Yes, you know it, right?
48:11Well,
48:12>> I, I am not, believe me, all my life I
48:15asked God
48:18not to let me do evangelical tourism,
48:20going from conference to conference.
48:22This is not life, beloved.
48:26We are not people sitting here just
48:28trying to enjoy a revelation.
48:31We are eating Christ.
48:36>> It's not curiosity; it is hunger for the
48:38bread of life.
48:41We are talking about life, right?
48:43So, know this.
48:46Why doesn't one see a transformation in
48:50their life?
48:52It is not falling to the ground.
48:55And if it doesn't fall to the ground,
48:57there will be no transformation.
49:01I will not participate in the glory of
49:04God.
49:06In this is my Father glorified.
49:09I in him and he in me. That I bear much
49:12fruit.
49:14That is why my Father loves me, because
49:15I lay down my life for the sheep. He had
49:17to fall to the ground. For this I came.
49:23And he takes up the cross for the joy
49:25set before him. What was it?
49:28The glorification of that seed, the
49:30glory of the Father, the people the
49:33Father saw in his own son before
49:35everything was created.
49:40Is that okay?
49:44So look at what happens.
49:46There is Israel in the, in the
49:48wilderness, and he says," We must move
49:50to the promised land, but
49:55we still long for the things of Egypt. "
49:57So they wanted to go to the promised
49:58land, but at the same time." And what
50:01they could do in months, they took 40
50:03years to do.
50:05Listen, because he is talking about us.
50:08Israel said terrible things, like for
50:10example, "If only we had died in Egypt.
50:12"
50:14Terrible. And one of the things that is
50:17most important is that in the wilderness
50:20there is nothing.
50:23Therefore, what were they going to eat?
50:25God had to provide food.
50:29And there the manna appeared, bread that
50:32descended from heaven.
50:35But that bread was a figure of whom?
50:38He said, "I am the true bread that
50:39descended from heaven. Your fathers ate
50:41that manna in the wilderness, but they
50:43died.
50:44But I am the bread.""That manna spoke of
50:47me, but he who eats of me has eternal
50:49life.
50:51And he had to provide water
50:54through a rock, and they were cold and
50:58there was a cloud, a pillar of fire, and
51:01they were hot and there was a cloud that
51:04covered them.
51:08Look,
51:10the problem with Israel was not that
51:11they didn't believe.
51:14How could they not believe?
51:16They had seen the death, the plagues,
51:18the death of the firstborn. They had
51:20crossed the Red Sea on dry land.
51:23How could they not believe?
51:26But they did not know the God who had
51:28brought them out of Egypt.
51:32And what was the misfortune?
51:36of Israel
51:40that it refused to grow, it refused to
51:43know the God and the life and the
51:45salvation that God had granted it.
51:49Look, if let's say
51:53I, uh, at the end of the month Seba is
51:54coming, who is going to be a dad, he's
51:56going to make me a grandfather for the
51:57first time.
51:59Oh, amazing.
52:01Well, yes.
52:04And
52:07when a baby is born in a house, it's
52:08impressive news, right? Beautiful.
52:11But suppose for a mother that a year
52:14passes, two pass, and you see him as if
52:17he were a newborn, he doesn't grow.
52:24And it's like that news that was
52:27beautiful now becomes, well, terrible
52:30news,
52:33a tragedy, right? Why isn't the baby
52:35growing?
52:38He's sick, something is wrong with him,
52:41right?
52:42That was the tragedy of Israel in the
52:45desert. They refused to grow, they
52:47refused to mature, they refused to know
52:49the life that had been given to them and
52:51remained like a baby.
52:53A baby
52:55has a fundamental characteristic; it has
52:57a great dependency on the world around
52:59it.
53:01It cries and we don't know, well, maybe
53:03it's hungry, maybe something hurts, a
53:05tummy ache, I don't know, teething,
53:07maybe it has gas, we don't know what.
53:10But we keep trying to, uh, guess, right
53:14, what is wrong with it.
53:18And over time we start to have, like,
53:20empathy, more or less trying to
53:21understand what is wrong, because it
53:22cannot fend for itself, it doesn't know
53:24how to eat alone, it doesn't know how to
53:26dress alone, it doesn't know how to walk
53:27alone, it doesn't know how to make
53:29decisions, everything depends on us.
53:32What happened to Israel?
53:33They were a child, they refused to grow
53:35,
53:37and so in everything they depended on
53:40God. God had to provide every day,
53:42provide, provide, provide, provide,
53:44provide, provide.
53:47Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles,
53:49miracles.
53:51And
53:54something that is tremendous,
53:57they arrived at the bank of the Jordan
53:59River.
54:00One representative from each tribe went
54:02. There were 12.
54:0510 of them said," No, there are many
54:07peoples.
54:08There were many peoples.
54:10There were seven strong representatives
54:12and some of them were giants, and 10 of
54:15them said, "No, we are going to die."
54:18The first thing they hadn't understood
54:19was that they had already died.
54:22They had already died in the lamb.
54:25And the other point is that they didn't
54:27have to conquer the land, they had to
54:29possess it because God had already given
54:31it to them.
54:33Beloved, Christ has already been given
54:35to us.
54:38There is no personal merit, it is not
54:40personal effort, it is not iron
54:42discipline, it is grace,
54:46>> it is surrendering, it is believing God
54:49and entering into the full knowledge.
54:53It is I have lost everything, I have
54:55considered everything as rubbish in
54:56order to know Him.
55:00It is letting go of the desires of this
55:02world, letting go of the desires of
55:05Egypt to enter into the full knowledge
55:07of Him.
55:12And when those 10 said that, do you
55:15think God said, "Well,
55:18well, it's okay, after all, at least
55:20they are saved." No, He did not say that
55:22.
55:25He said, "I brought you out of Egypt
55:27with a purpose."
55:29In other words, God did not bring Israel
55:31out of Egypt because Israel had problems
55:33.
55:34He brought them out because God has a
55:36purpose and it was to bring them into
55:38the promised land, to bring them into
55:40the full knowledge of Him.
55:46And what He said, you will return to the
55:49desert and you will wander in the desert
55:52until your bodies fall dead in it.
55:58That was the tragedy of Israel.
56:00But He is not talking about Israel, He
56:01is talking about us.
56:06We can live our whole lives in Christ
56:08and wander in our own imaginations
56:11throughout our whole lives until our
56:14bodies fall dead in this world, without
56:17having truly known the life, the
56:19salvation that was granted to us, which
56:22is Christ in us.
56:28Look, Israel, the scripture says, their
56:31sandals never wore out, their clothes
56:33never wore out, they never lacked
56:35provision.
56:40In other words, their bellies were full
56:43of provision, but they died with their
56:47hearts empty of purpose.
56:54They lived a life without purpose and
56:56without knowing the life, the delight
56:58and the joy of the life that was granted
57:01to them.
57:03Only two said, "But we don't have to
57:05conquer anything.
57:07God already gave it to us, we have to
57:09possess it."
57:11And Joshua and Caleb entered,
57:16they entered.
57:22And
57:24what I want to tell you, beloved,
57:28this is the story of our salvation.
57:31Israel being in the desert,
57:37neither could Egypt come for them, nor
57:39could they return to Egypt, they were
57:41saved.
57:47But Paul says, "There are so many things
57:50I have to tell you about this glorious
57:52mystery in which we were given
57:54everything, all things where we dwell in
57:57the unsearchable riches in Christ.
58:01And I cannot speak to you about this
58:03because you remain children, spiritual
58:05babies."
58:11That is why the concern of the apostles
58:14was, it is urgent, it is urgent to
58:16mature, urgent.
58:21Or we will be spiritual children all the
58:24time longing for God to be providing all
58:27the time.
58:34And so we come with the expectation, as
58:36we were saying, come
58:39expecting to receive. Expecting to
58:41receive what
58:46if in Christ we were not given
58:47everything?
58:50>> We just need to enter into the full
58:52knowledge of him to know what has been
58:55granted.
58:58And what has been granted? The Son.
59:00He gave us the Son, and in him, all
59:02things.
59:04So, there are people who interpret the
59:06desert by saying, "God put me in the
59:09desert to teach me something.""How to
59:12teach you something? What is God going
59:14to teach you in the desert? The only
59:15thing God is saying in the desert is,"
59:17Get out of the desert. "" In other words
59:19, enter into full knowledge. "
59:25But do you understand, I mean, do you
59:27know what religion says? Religion says
59:28this. I have a need, I ask God for it,
59:30and God provides it for me. That is what
59:32religion says.
59:36But what does the gospel say?
59:39The gospel says," We were dead, Christ
59:42came, he granted us life and everything
59:44in him, and now we enter into the
59:45knowledge of that reality. "
59:50We were created for that reality.
59:52That is it.
59:56That is the prevailing reality in which
59:58we were known by God before everything
1:00:01was created.
1:00:05And Paul says," And I will know just as
1:00:08I have been known. "
1:00:12Amen. So, we are not people waiting for
1:00:15God to be providing.
1:00:17We are people who need to enter into the
1:00:20full knowledge of Christ to be able to
1:00:22see, know, delight in, and enjoy
1:00:24everything already granted in him. This
1:00:27is the story of our salvation.
1:00:31But what does it mean? I cannot pass
1:00:33from death to life if I do not cross,
1:00:37right?
1:00:38If I don't cross the Red Sea, and I
1:00:40cannot know this life if I don't cross
1:00:43the Jordan River by way of a cross. What
1:00:46does that mean?
1:00:47Where there is a gospel where there is
1:00:49no cross, Paul says," Run.
1:00:52"That is not the gospel;
1:00:56that is the complete opposite.
1:00:58Get out of there.
1:01:01If you look at what happened with Jesus
1:01:03, crowds coming to seek his miracles,
1:01:05Jesus told them," Look, I want to
1:01:07explain to you.
1:01:11Miracles are signs, but what do they
1:01:13point to?
1:01:14The promised land; they are pointing to
1:01:16him.
1:01:18A miracle is not an end in itself.
1:01:21But, do you remember what the church
1:01:22calls revival? What does it normally
1:01:25call revival?
1:01:26Miracles.
1:01:29But what is a miracle? A sign.
1:01:33Why did God produce miracles in the
1:01:35desert? For one single purpose. That
1:01:38they might advance to the promised land
1:01:40.
1:01:41And what is revival? Even though it is a
1:01:43word not found in the scriptures.
1:01:46What would revival be?
1:01:49A greater measure of life, right?
1:01:53And where is life?
1:01:55In knowing the one who is life.
1:01:58where a greater measure of that life is
1:02:00being expressed, where Christ is being
1:02:02formed in us.
1:02:03I mean, the power of his resurrection is
1:02:06when they come to tell Jesus,
1:02:11"Lord, get out of here because Herod is
1:02:13looking to kill you.""And he says to
1:02:15them, 'Tell that fox
1:02:18that I cast out demons, I do miracles
1:02:20the first and the second day, but the
1:02:22third day I finish my work.'"
1:02:25He is not talking about calendar days.
1:02:27What is the third day?
1:02:29The day of his resurrection. And what is
1:02:32the power of his resurrection? It is the
1:02:34power of the third day that dwells in us
1:02:35.
1:02:37But we are no longer in the first and
1:02:39the second day. Where are we?
1:02:41Of course, it is the day in which we
1:02:44dwell. For what purpose?
1:02:46Not to wait, to receive like the first
1:02:48and second day miracles, miracles,
1:02:50miracles. Like in the wilderness,
1:02:55we crossed the Jordan River to enjoy the
1:02:57land flowing with milk and honey, where
1:03:00everything is provided.
1:03:03Why should we be begging for water and
1:03:04bread when everything has already been
1:03:06provided in the unsearchable riches in
1:03:08Christ, which is where we dwell now?
1:03:11Amen.
1:03:12>> Well, may God accomplish it in us.
1:03:15Thank you very much.

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