Concerned Mothers Against Feminism — Transcript

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1. 0:00This is a really interesting video from
2. 0:02a lady that I'm assuming is about my age
3. 0:05because as we will go through in a
4. 0:06minute, she tells her story of how when
5. 0:08she was young
6. 0:10in the 90s as I was
7. 0:12um
8. 0:13things seemed to make sense and now
9. 0:15we've arrived at the logical conclusion
10. 0:17of all of those things in the 90s
11. 0:20things seem bonkers and what's worse
12. 0:24discriminatory to her son.
13. 0:26>> It's only since becoming the mother of a
14. 0:28son that I've started looking at this
15. 0:30whole sex thing differently. I grew up
16. 0:32in the 90s so I was completely girl
17. 0:35power girls can do anything almost like
18. 0:37girls are better than boys, you know, we
19. 0:39can do it. You can
20. 0:41>> And that's interesting, isn't it? Almost
21. 0:43like girls are better than boys. Um and
22. 0:45I'm not criticizing her like she, you
23. 0:48know, the fact that she's come to this
24. 0:49kind of revelation
25. 0:51is is good because I think that when
26. 0:54something doesn't affect you, there's no
27. 0:55particular reason that you feel you need
28. 0:58to critique what that thing is.
29. 1:00But it was indeed girls are better than
30. 1:03boys. I mean that was exactly what it
31. 1:04was all about.
32. 1:06Only at the time it didn't feel very
33. 1:08threatening because it was brand new and
34. 1:09everyone thought well
35. 1:11I mean you know, they're they're going
36. 1:12under the rubric of equality and
37. 1:15therefore
38. 1:15>> [clears throat]
39. 1:16>> surely it's not girls are better than
40. 1:18boys.
41. 1:19It's me thinking that that's the
42. 1:22negative impression that's coming
43. 1:23across. Now of course in subsequent
44. 1:26decades we have found that no, I
45. 1:28actually it was a female supremacist
46. 1:29movement in the feminist movement and
47. 1:31they specifically were going out of
48. 1:33their way to as I've said in the past
49. 1:35dethrone the straight white male from
50. 1:37his position of prestige as the as the
51. 1:40protagonist of Western civilization.
52. 1:42That's where we've arrived at and now
53. 1:44this woman who's now a mother is like
54. 1:46well why is my son
55. 1:48a second class citizen in his own
56. 1:50civilization? It's like well that's a
57. 1:51great question. Why is your son a second
58. 1:54class citizen?
59. 1:56And
60. 1:57she's coming to the conclusions we're
61. 1:58coming to.
62. 1:59>> Do any role, you don't need to be a mom,
63. 2:01you can just get any job you like, you
64. 2:02know. And then that led into this whole
65. 2:04girl boss movement.
66. 2:06>> So, just a quick thing on that. Who's to
67. 2:08whose advantage is that?
68. 2:09Tell women, "Oh, you can do anything.
69. 2:11Just become a girl boss. Don't worry
70. 2:12about getting married and having kids."
71. 2:13It's like
72. 2:14but
73. 2:15that's part of the good life.
74. 2:17>> [laughter]
75. 2:18>> When That might That might sound
76. 2:19sensible when you're in your 20s, but by
77. 2:22the time you're in your 40s, you'll be
78. 2:24glad you have your your husband and your
79. 2:26kids. Who is telling you these things?
80. 2:28To whose advantage is this? That
81. 2:30actually
82. 2:31uh Westerners don't marry and have kids.
83. 2:34Again, the
84. 2:35the
85. 2:36>> [laughter]
86. 2:36>> evil overlords in they live were less
87. 2:39evil than our current evil overlords.
88. 2:41>> Fairness in the workplace, making sure
89. 2:43that everyone gets paid and treated
90. 2:45equally, which I actually think is a
91. 2:47good thing. I think we should all be
92. 2:48treated
93. 2:49individually. We
94. 2:51>> Yeah, right. So, when she says we should
95. 2:52all be treated individually, what she's
96. 2:53saying is we should all be treated
97. 2:55fairly. And yeah, I agree, right? We
98. 2:57obvious obviously people should be
99. 2:58treated fairly, and there's not even a
100. 3:00It's not a controversial thing to say,
101. 3:02but it's also not necessarily a feminist
102. 3:04thing to say because if a bunch of um
103. 3:06women are not working as hard as a bunch
104. 3:08of men, you can fairly say, "Well, they
105. 3:10shouldn't get as paid as much as men."
106. 3:11And this was you know, going back to the
107. 3:13sort of like 2016 anti-feminist era of
108. 3:15YouTube.
109. 3:17We accrued all these stats. It's like,
110. 3:19"Well, you know, men work like 44 hours
111. 3:20a week on average, women work 36 hours a
112. 3:23week. That's about the same as the
113. 3:25gender pay gap. Why are we shocked
114. 3:26there's a gender pay gap?" But on an
115. 3:28individual basis, there's no
116. 3:29discrimination that takes place, which
117. 3:31is why nobody is ever held accountable
118. 3:32for this. Although, actually, it's not
119. 3:34true. In like 2018, 2019, there was kind
120. 3:36of a feminist jihad that did extract a
121. 3:39bunch of wealth unfairly from employers
122. 3:41over these sort of nonsense claims, but
123. 3:43anyway, point aside.
124. 3:45These are fair points and fair
125. 3:47questions.
126. 3:48>> Should all be treated based upon our
127. 3:50character and our morals and our work
128. 3:52ethic. But it's only been the last
129. 3:54couple of years that I've noticed that I
130. 3:55think the pendulum has just swung so far
131. 3:57the other way. We're not looking at boys
132. 3:59and girls being treated equally.
133. 4:01Boys are not really being treated
134. 4:04equally at this point.
135. 4:06>> So,
136. 4:06this wasn't a pendulum.
137. 4:08Right?
138. 4:09And she comes to this conclusion later
139. 4:11on.
140. 4:12Boys and girls, men and women, are
141. 4:13different. And society was actually
142. 4:15geared around those differences.
143. 4:18In aggregate, on average, women would
144. 4:21choose this kind of life, and men would
145. 4:23choose that kind of life, and society
146. 4:25was set up to deal with these broad,
147. 4:28normal choices. There were, of course,
148. 4:30always fringe cases and overlaps in the
149. 4:32Venn diagram here. And I'm not even
150. 4:35against us having provisions for that,
151. 4:38and to be a bit flexible on these
152. 4:39things. But, on average, women do one
153. 4:42thing, men do another thing, and that is
154. 4:44how society should be set up. And there
155. 4:46should be
156. 4:47separate spaces for men and women in
157. 4:50this regard, in to deal with these
158. 4:53proclivities, these different frankly,
159. 4:56the the basic differences between men
160. 4:57and women.
161. 4:58>> You look at like the boy groups, right?
162. 5:00So, we used to have the Scouts, and then
163. 5:01we had the Brownies or the Girl Guides.
164. 5:03So, there were groups for boys and
165. 5:05groups for girls. And that was a good
166. 5:06thing, because boys and girls are
167. 5:08different.
168. 5:09>> Precisely. Nail on the head. It is a
169. 5:11good thing that boys and girls are in
170. 5:14separate spaces. Not necessarily all the
171. 5:16time or anything like that, but to have
172. 5:18separate spaces that they can be boys
173. 5:20and girls. Cuz I mean, the thing about
174. 5:21groups like Scouts and Girl Guides is
175. 5:23they're not just recreational
176. 5:25activities. They're still educational
177. 5:27activities they're doing.
178. 5:29And so, the groups take on different
179. 5:30dynamics when you have all boys groups,
180. 5:32all girl groups, or mixed groups. And
181. 5:35mixed groups actually have the worst
182. 5:37outcomes for just basically anything,
183. 5:39especially in the education system. I
184. 5:41gave a talk on this
185. 5:42at the Witan in Karlstadt. Is it Karls-
186. 5:47somewhere in Germany last year? Cuz I'd
187. 5:49gone through all the data. Um yeah, it's
188. 5:51it's good to have uh boys only schools
189. 5:54and girls only schools if you're
190. 5:56concerned about educational attainment.
191. 5:58Like that really helps boys and girls
192. 6:00cuz they learn in different ways.
193. 6:02But we have uh the oppressive reign of
194. 6:04liberalism that suggests that actually
195. 6:06all of everyone is the same. And to have
196. 6:08an exclusive space for boys is an
197. 6:11affront to feminism. Having an exclusive
198. 6:13space to girls
199. 6:15isn't an affront to anything because
200. 6:17there is no masculine ideological
201. 6:19movement like there is for female uh
202. 6:23for for for women. There's no
203. 6:24ideological the feminist ideological
204. 6:26movement for them. There's no equivalent
205. 6:27for men on the other side. So, yeah, a
206. 6:29bunch of male spaces got eaten up but
207. 6:32the female spaces stayed the same. I
208. 6:34mean, intersectionality uh
209. 6:36put a wrench in that by saying, "Well,
210. 6:38what about a bunch of boys who identify
211. 6:40as girls? Can't they?" And this has been
212. 6:41a long thing I'm saying that I don't
213. 6:43want to get into, but the
214. 6:45the basic principle is yeah.
215. 6:47There are girl spaces and there are
216. 6:49mixed spaces.
217. 6:51There's nothing for boys. And as a
218. 6:52father of two sons and two girls, I
219. 6:55think they should both have their own
220. 6:56spaces. I mean, I've always thought
221. 6:58this, but yeah, obviously they should
222. 7:00have their own spaces.
223. 7:01>> And so, they interact differently, they
224. 7:02play differently, generally. And we're
225. 7:04talking about stereotyping here.
226. 7:07>> And that's totally true. They are
227. 7:09generally different. Again, not every
228. 7:10single case, there will be edge cases.
229. 7:13But in the average, she's absolutely
230. 7:14right. They are absolutely different.
231. 7:16And man, I'll tell you what.
232. 7:18>> [laughter]
233. 7:18>> Like my boys were very stereotypically
234. 7:21boys. And you know, the girls uh
235. 7:24I mean, my youngest is probably a lot
236. 7:26more like her brothers than
237. 7:28uh other girls. So, she's she's a bit
238. 7:30boisterous. But um the boys and girls
239. 7:33it's very you can see the difference in
240. 7:35them. And it's from the earliest moments
241. 7:37as well.
242. 7:37>> Yeah, but stereotype is, you You the
243. 7:40majority of people.
244. 7:42>> They're true for a reason.
245. 7:43>> And of course there's always going to be
246. 7:44exceptions. There are no longer groups
247. 7:46for boys that I can find anyway. I was
248. 7:48looking to see if my son could join the
249. 7:50Scouts, but it's mixed, which is
250. 7:52>> Yeah, I mean it's literally illegal, I
251. 7:54think at this point, to have groups
252. 7:55[clears throat] for boys only. I think
253. 7:56it's actually illegal in British law.
254. 7:59>> It's fine, but there's also still girl
255. 8:01groups. So, a girl can go to Girl
256. 8:03Guides, a girl can go to Brownies, but
257. 8:05boy doesn't really have a boy group to
258. 8:07go to and no one seems to think that
259. 8:09that's a problem.
260. 8:10>> Yeah. Well, I think that's a problem.
261. 8:12Like, I'm I'm at the point I mean, I've
262. 8:14said this for many years now, but I'm
263. 8:16I'm glad to see that other people are
264. 8:17starting to recognize this. Because of
265. 8:19course it's a problem. Right, it's not
266. 8:22normal
267. 8:23to expect boys to always have contact
268. 8:26with girls. Actually, there are times
269. 8:28when boys don't have contact with girls.
270. 8:30They only have contact with other boys.
271. 8:31And this means that they learn a a
272. 8:35different set of skills socially that
273. 8:37they would learn when only dealing when
274. 8:39when dealing with a mixed group. Boys
275. 8:42are different when there are no girls
276. 8:44around. And girls are different when
277. 8:45there are no boys around. And that's
278. 8:47fine and normal and natural and it
279. 8:49shouldn't be stigmatized. It should be
280. 8:50normal. It should be acceptable.
281. 8:52>> I think that that is a that is a
282. 8:53problem. And it's the same with the
283. 8:54grown-ups, too. A lot of the traditional
284. 8:57men's groups, you know, and they say,
285. 8:59"Oh, it's you know, what is it? Pale,
286. 9:01stale, male and all that." Again, how
287. 9:03generalizing is that? How rude is that
288. 9:06to assume that because you're an older
289. 9:08white male that you're a bad person?
290. 9:10>> Isn't that interesting?
291. 9:12Right, that she's obviously not like
292. 9:14someone who's deeply ideological or
293. 9:15anything like this and deeply plugged
294. 9:16into all of this. But isn't that
295. 9:18interesting how she hears pale, stale,
296. 9:20and male and thinks, "Right, they're
297. 9:21saying that they're bad people." Because
298. 9:23that was the stigma that they were
299. 9:25supposed to put on them. And that's why
300. 9:26David Cameron was like, "Oh, yeah, we'll
301. 9:28make the Conservative Party super
302. 9:29progressive cuz we don't want to be bad
303. 9:30people." As if it's bad to be the thing
304. 9:33that you are. And she's picked that up.
305. 9:35It's exactly right. It's a stigmatizing
306. 9:38term for a reason.
307. 9:39>> You're fuddy-duddy or whatever.
308. 9:41>> You could never say that about a woman,
309. 9:43but you've got groups like the Rotary,
310. 9:44which is now mixed. It used to be male
311. 9:46only. But the women's version of that,
312. 9:48which is the Inner Wheel, is still women
313. 9:50only. And it's important to be able to
314. 9:51go into these spaces and feel
315. 9:53comfortable and be around people that
316. 9:54you can interact with that you feel, you
317. 9:56know, familiar with, similar to. But why
318. 9:58don't the men still have that?
319. 10:01>> Great question. Great question. And it's
320. 10:03because the feminists used the argument
321. 10:05that well, these become all boys clubs
322. 10:08and they lock women out of power now and
323. 10:10and jobs and prestige and and success.
324. 10:12Well, now we're on the other side of
325. 10:14that and actually there are way more
326. 10:16women in the workforce than there are
327. 10:17men and men are
328. 10:20dropping out. They're checking out. The
329. 10:22civilization is simply falling apart and
330. 10:23they can't even have private spaces.
331. 10:26Like the working men's clubs, you can't
332. 10:28have a male-only working men's club.
333. 10:30Like you can't have male-only gyms. You
334. 10:31can have women-only gyms. I would love a
335. 10:33male-only gym. All right. And sorry,
336. 10:35this is not to be like raging misogynist
337. 10:38or anything.
338. 10:39But like the women's fashion now, well,
339. 10:43I remember going to the gym when I was
340. 10:44like 19 and women would just wear normal
341. 10:46clothes. Like, you know, just some
342. 10:48shorts, a t-shirt.
343. 10:50And it was like, okay, well, it wasn't a
344. 10:52problem, right? If women are dressing in
345. 10:54actually what is quite gender-neutral
346. 10:55clothing,
347. 10:57that's fine.
348. 10:58I I mean, I've been going to the gym for
349. 11:00the last year and I've been enjoying the
350. 11:02act of lifting the weights, but I'm sick
351. 11:06of seeing so many asses around,
352. 11:09frankly. Like the the gym clothes now,
353. 11:12like the weird form-fitting like hello,
354. 11:15look at everything about me gym clothes
355. 11:17now. I don't I don't want to look at
356. 11:19you, right? But I'm a man and you're you
357. 11:22know, you're you're just doing whatever
358. 11:24you're doing and then suddenly you see
359. 11:25something, your eyes are dragged to
360. 11:26something and you realize you're looking
361. 11:28at
362. 11:29something you don't want to look at and
363. 11:31you're like, sake, you know, you
364. 11:32get angry that your own body is kind of
365. 11:34betraying you in this way. And this is
366. 11:36why these women wear this. They wear it
367. 11:38to get attention. Otherwise, they
368. 11:39wouldn't Otherwise, they'd be wearing
369. 11:41the baggy clothes again if they didn't
370. 11:42want men to look at them, right? So,
371. 11:45it it is frustrating, and I would
372. 11:46actually love a man-only gym so I didn't
373. 11:49have to worry about it. So, it was just
374. 11:51guys who were going there for their
375. 11:52workout, right? And they you you know,
376. 11:53it'd be quiet. Everyone's got their
377. 11:55headphones in, and it'd just be people,
378. 11:57you know, doing the weights and then and
379. 11:58they're doing what doing whatever
380. 11:59they're doing. And then they're just
381. 12:00getting on with their day. That That
382. 12:01sounds really nice. But I I can't have
383. 12:04that. I'm not allowed to have that. That
384. 12:06would be, for some reason, unacceptable.
385. 12:09>> That's my question now, being the mother
386. 12:10of a boy. I'm looking around going,
387. 12:12"This is skewed." And I just feel like
388. 12:14the boys are having a really hard time.
389. 12:16In society,
390. 12:18where are their safe places?
391. 12:20>> Great question.
392. 12:21They are I mean, this is what
393. 12:22adolescence is about. It's like, "Oh
394. 12:23god, why are boys like becoming like
395. 12:26incel psychos?" I don't think they are,
396. 12:28broadly, obviously. But the This is what
397. 12:30they're worried about. They can tell the
398. 12:32the pendulum has swung
399. 12:35way in favor of the opposite sex, and
400. 12:38it's actually a form of punishment to
401. 12:40these boys now.
402. 12:41Like, they're not being treated with any
403. 12:43dignity. They're not allowed to have
404. 12:45things of their own. And this isn't an
405. 12:46acceptable way to organize society.
406. 12:49Actually, if we went back 100 years,
407. 12:51you'd find not even 100 years, but you'd
408. 12:53you'd find there were girls' groups and
409. 12:55boys' groups that are tailored to the
410. 12:57interests and
411. 12:59attitudes of these different types of
412. 13:01people, where they would, as you said,
413. 13:03feel safe. They'd feel like normal.
414. 13:05They'd be you know, you go into a men's
415. 13:06club or boys'
416. 13:07a a
417. 13:08Boy Scouts or whatever it is, or a a
418. 13:10girls' club, or you know, whatever it
419. 13:12for what, girl guys, whatever it is, and
420. 13:15you'd at least feel normal in these
421. 13:17things. You don't You don't have to
422. 13:18think about or or behave naturally, sort
423. 13:21of behave the way you're doing in the
424. 13:22opposite sex.
425. 13:24This is a real issue. This is a real
426. 13:26issue. And I've I've spoken about it
427. 13:27before. And I would love to see a return
428. 13:29to spaces that can be sex-segregated.
429. 13:33Why should we not be allowed that?
430. 13:34>> Where are their groups? Where's their
431. 13:36support?
432. 13:37I'm asking as a concerned mother of a
433. 13:40son.
434. 13:42>> Great question. And at least she is
435. 13:43concerned for her son, right? At least
436. 13:45Like again, I don't even blame her for
437. 13:47When I was When I was a young girl, I
438. 13:48didn't have these worries. I didn't
439. 13:50think about it. I thought, "Oh, great.
440. 13:51These things are set up for me." And I
441. 13:52guess she must have assumed, "Well,
442. 13:54there must be something set up for the
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