Common Personal Injury Law Legal Terms & Definitions — Transcript
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- 0:00(gavel thumps)
- 0:05- [Announcer] Welcome
- 0:06to "Lawyers in the House with Montlick".
- 0:11Wish you had a lawyer in the family?
- 0:13Now you do.
- 0:15Here's your host, Veronica Waters.
- 0:19- Hey, welcome to "Lawyers in the House with Montlick"
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- 0:23I'm your host, Veronica Waters.
- 0:25So happy to be back with you another week.
- 0:28Hope you wiped your feet on the mat,
- 0:30just come on in, make yourself comfortable.
- 0:32We are having two dynamic attorneys here to walk us through
- 0:37something that, you know what?
- 0:38Maybe we should have done this for you
- 0:40closer to one of the beginning episodes
- 0:42right after our first episode about misconceptions
- 0:45and personal injury law.
- 0:47We throw a lot of terms around here
- 0:49from claim to compensation, from arbitration to mediation,
- 0:54all this kinda stuff,
- 0:55do you know exactly what we're talking about?
- 0:58It's not necessarily legalese
- 1:00but think of this as a sort of primer 101
- 1:04for common legal terms.
- 1:05That's what we're talking about here
- 1:07on "Lawyers in the House" today.
- 1:08And I've got two attorneys, one new to the show,
- 1:12one not so new to the show.
- 1:14Philip Hairston, you remember, was with us before.
- 1:16He's one of the Grady babies, Georgia native, right?
- 1:19- That's correct.
- 1:20This is the guy you may remember graduated from Georgia Tech
- 1:23with a BS in chemistry.
- 1:25- [Phillip] That's right.
- 1:26- And now he's a lawyer.
- 1:28What composition went into making that?
- 1:29Well, how did that formula work, Philip?
- 1:33- Looking back, it's actually kinda a funny decision.
- 1:35I knew it was something different than science
- 1:37and I did debate team in high school
- 1:39and figured law as a natural fit.
- 1:41So I just went to law school and figured it out.
- 1:44- So now that you've been in law for how many years?
- 1:48- [Phillip] Nine years now.
- 1:48- Nine years,
- 1:50what makes you know that you did the right thing?
- 1:54- Well, first of all,
- 1:55I think we all do what we're good at, frankly.
- 1:57I think my skills transition law well.
- 2:00I'm competitive, I'm empathetic.
- 2:02My clients trust me, they like me
- 2:05and I believe in what I do.
- 2:08- [Veronica] You believe in what you do?
- 2:09- That's correct.
- 2:11I spent the last four years representing plaintiffs.
- 2:13You'll hear today plaintiffs are people who are injured,
- 2:16people who bring lawsuits and they're victims, frankly.
- 2:19They're people who are hurt,
- 2:20people who need help at one of the worst times in their life
- 2:22and they depend on us to help them.
- 2:24And I'm proud of that.
- 2:25- I love that.
- 2:26And the newbie to the show today
- 2:28but hopefully she will be back many times
- 2:30'cause I've already grown to love talking to her.
- 2:32Margaret Grenleski, another Georgia native
- 2:35joining us here on "Lawyers in the House".
- 2:37Not a Grady baby but Ken Stone baby.
- 2:40- [Margaret] Correct. - Is that a thing?
- 2:41Ken Stone babies, do we say that? (laughs)
- 2:43- [Phillip] I guess we do now.
- 2:45- Two Georgia Natives and a Mississippi Magnolia here
- 2:47like this is an all southern show.
- 2:49Margaret, you've been in the law for one decade now.
- 2:53But what's interesting about Margaret is that she comes
- 2:55to the law after already having a previous career
- 3:00as a licensed professional counselor.
- 3:02Now she's this person who's decided to go back to school,
- 3:07become an attorney after one successful career.
- 3:10And now how do you feel that you've been in law for a decade
- 3:15or more?
- 3:15- I made the right decision.
- 3:17It's been very rewarding and I enjoy
- 3:21helping people solve problems or puzzles sometimes.
- 3:26And so, I get to work on that every day now.
- 3:29- Did you have sort of a revelatory moment
- 3:34when you were like, "Yes, this is where I'm supposed to be?"
- 3:39- Probably the first two or three months
- 3:41when I was working at Montlick,
- 3:43I came across some situations where I felt very excited
- 3:48and intrigued about some solutions
- 3:50I was able to come up with.
- 3:52So yes, certainly.
- 3:56- Sort of the,
- 3:58is it the figuring out of the puzzles?
- 4:00Is it the exploring every avenue for your clients
- 4:03kinda thing? - [Margaret] Yes.
- 4:04- What drives you?
- 4:06- [Margaret] Challenges.
- 4:06- [Veronica] Challenges. - Yes.
- 4:08- This is the girl you want, I guess,
- 4:09if there's an intricate case, right?
- 4:10- [Margaret] Yes. - Is that what I'm hearing?
- 4:12Okay, I love it, I love it.
- 4:14Okay, so we're gonna get to know Margaret a little bit more
- 4:17and Phillip a little bit more but first,
- 4:19we're gonna get to know some legal terms,
- 4:21a little bit more common legal terms.
- 4:24And I'm gonna say maybe some things that every personal
- 4:28injury client or maybe just all of us in general
- 4:32need to know, right?
- 4:33And clearly, Phillip was already ready
- 4:35to dive into the content.
- 4:37So we're gonna rewind a little bit.
- 4:39Common legal terms 101, plaintiff versus defendant.
- 4:44We hear this all of the time, all of the time,
- 4:46on all of the TV shows and movies I watch.
- 4:48And Philip, you already said a plaintiff is.
- 4:51- So when there's a lawsuit, there are two parties.
- 4:54Well, at least two party involved,
- 4:56one will be the plaintiff, one is the defendant,
- 4:59the plaintiff is the one who's bringing a lawsuit.
- 5:01They're the ones who are alleging a harm
- 5:04or a damage of some kind.
- 5:06And the defendant is the person
- 5:07who's alleged to have committed this harm or damage.
- 5:10So the lawsuit is the plaintiff
- 5:12bringing a suit against a defendant.
- 5:14- And you as the Montlick injury attorney
- 5:15are representing the plaintiff.
- 5:18- Exactly, all of our clients are plaintiffs.
- 5:19They're people who have been hurt
- 5:21due to the negligence of others.
- 5:23So we bring losses on behalf of our clients
- 5:24who are the plaintiffs against the defendants
- 5:26who have caused their harm.
- 5:28- Okay, Margaret, what do you,
- 5:32now be honest with me,
- 5:33people really know these terms, right?
- 5:35Plaintiff and defendant, am I starting off too easy?
- 5:38- [Margaret] No. - [Veronica] No?
- 5:39- No, I have people ask all the time
- 5:42if they're the plaintiff.
- 5:44- [Veronica] Oh, and you say, "Yes, you are."
- 5:46- Yes. - Okay. (laughs)
- 5:49So I think what's gonna be cool about this show
- 5:51is we'll try to do the terms
- 5:53in sort of a chronological order of how a case like
- 5:56comes to you and how it develops
- 5:58and maybe we can like sort of layer the education that way
- 6:02so you can see how it develops.
- 6:06What do you think about that idea? Love that.
- 6:07All right, so what's the first thing that you do?
- 6:10You've got plaintiff and defendant.
- 6:12Now we know I'm trying to sue somebody for messing with me
- 6:16or hurting me.
- 6:17I'm the plaintiff, what's next?
- 6:19- In a personal injury case, you would find out
- 6:23if the defendant has insurance
- 6:26and then contact the insurance company and let them know
- 6:29that this plaintiff is filing a claim.
- 6:32So we would have to investigate,
- 6:35like if you have an accident,
- 6:37we would look up the accident report and then find out
- 6:41from there who to contact
- 6:43as far as the insurance company goes.
- 6:45- All right, this is one of those things
- 6:47that you have to explain to clients to?
- 6:52- Yes, yes, definitely.
- 6:55I actually had to explain it to someone the other day.
- 6:57- How do you give examples?
- 6:59What do you do?
- 7:01Do you just bring out cases like give us an example
- 7:03of when you're talking about insurance
- 7:05'cause on this show I've heard the word adjuster,
- 7:08I've heard the word agent, I've heard the word insured,
- 7:12I've heard policy.
- 7:14I mean, lay this out for me.
- 7:18Who's who?
- 7:19- Okay, well, the insurance agent
- 7:21is the person who actually sells you the insurance.
- 7:23They represent either one insurance company or several
- 7:27and they can help you obtain the proper insurance
- 7:31for yourself.
- 7:33Now an adjuster is someone who actually handles the claim
- 7:38once you file the claim and evaluates the claim
- 7:43or your injuries or property damage or other.
- 7:47- And those are two different people, Philip?
- 7:49- That's correct.
- 7:50So generally the people we deal with
- 7:52are the claims adjusters.
- 7:54Those are the people who look at the case
- 7:57when it's first filed.
- 7:58So before lawsuit is filed generally,
- 8:00will file an insurance claim
- 8:01on the at-fault party's insurance.
- 8:04And the insurance company will assign
- 8:06what's called an adjuster to the claim.
- 8:08And the adjuster will look at our client's medical bills
- 8:11and their injuries and their damages and try to evaluate
- 8:14what they, the insurance company, thinks the case is worth.
- 8:18And so usually before a lawsuit's file will try to settle
- 8:21or at least deal with the adjuster on the case.
- 8:25And if we cannot obtain a settlement that our client thinks
- 8:29is fair or desirable, then we'll look into filing a lawsuit.
- 8:33But generally we're looking into filing insurance claims
- 8:35before lawsuits are filed.
- 8:36- All right, so you said at-fault,
- 8:39do I need to throw that into the primer too?
- 8:41Or is it as obvious as it sounds?
- 8:44- I'm thinking, maybe it is
- 8:46but for everyone who might not know what it means,
- 8:48the at-fault party-
- 8:49- [Veronica] I'm the person at fault, right?
- 8:50- Is the person who's committed the harm
- 8:52against our clients, the person who's at fault
- 8:53for the injury or accident or damages.
- 8:56- All right.
- 8:57Can somebody lay out a case example for me
- 9:00where we can like paint a picture for me
- 9:02of how this looks in real life?
- 9:04- Sure, so a lot of our cases involve car accidents.
- 9:07So let's say for example, Veronica,
- 9:09you're rear-ended on the way home today.
- 9:11You would call Montlick, tell us what happened
- 9:15and we will start by getting a police report.
- 9:17The police report would list
- 9:19the at-fault driver's insurance information.
- 9:21- [Veronica] The person who rear-ended me.
- 9:22- Yes, exactly.
- 9:24We would file a claim
- 9:26against that person's insurance policy,
- 9:28their liability policy,
- 9:29the policy that covers them when they hurt someone.
- 9:33So after a claim is filed
- 9:36and you complete medical treatment,
- 9:38we would send a settlement demand to the insurance company
- 9:43which the adjuster would look at and evaluate.
- 9:45And we would attempt to negotiate a settlement.
- 9:48Hopefully, ideally we'll get a settlement offer
- 9:51that our client thinks is fair
- 9:53and they would accept the offer
- 9:54and then the case was closed.
- 9:55If the offer is something our client refuses,
- 9:57well, then we'll file a lawsuit against the at-fault driver
- 10:01on our client's behalf.
- 10:02- Is the claim the same thing as a lawsuit?
- 10:06- No, and I think that's sort of an important distinction.
- 10:09So a lawsuit is when you physically file a lawsuit in court,
- 10:13that's when you have a plaintiff and a defendant.
- 10:15That's when you have to serve the lawsuit on someone.
- 10:18You have to actually give them a copy of the lawsuit.
- 10:22A claim is simply an attempt to resolve a case
- 10:26outside of the legal proceeding.
- 10:28So generally we file claims before lawsuits are filed.
- 10:33- Can you resolve a claim without a lawsuit?
- 10:36- [Margaret] Yes. - Okay.
- 10:37- [Margaret] Definitely. - All right.
- 10:38Give me an example, Margaret.
- 10:39- Okay, so once you've finished treating,
- 10:43your medical issues are resolved or maybe not,
- 10:49but you've finished your treatment-
- 10:51- [Veronica] I've got some sort of treatment plan
- 10:52at least, right?
- 10:53- Right, so you've completed your treatment
- 10:55and then you, well, we would obtain
- 10:59all of your medical records and billing
- 11:01and then we would send a initial settlement demand
- 11:05on the claim to the insurance company.
- 11:07The insurance company will evaluate the claim
- 11:10and respond to our demand with a settlement offer.
- 11:14And then at that point, we will notify the plaintiff
- 11:19or our client of the settlement offer and determine
- 11:23if we want to move forward with further negotiations
- 11:25which is usually the case.
- 11:27- [Veronica] Hmm.
- 11:28- Okay, so then we go back to the insurance company
- 11:31with either a new demand or a lower demand of some sort
- 11:36and then we negotiated out.
- 11:39- All right, so tell me about that process.
- 11:40I'm sure that,
- 11:42is there a case that sticks with you
- 11:45where these sort of negotiations played out
- 11:48and you felt really proud of your outcome?
- 11:52- That's quite often actually.
- 11:54- Very nice, I love these confident attorneys.
- 11:56You know, this is really good.
- 11:59- I mean, sometimes you just,
- 12:01you look at the information that the insurance company
- 12:03is reviewing and you go over it with them
- 12:06and you have to clarify certain aspects of the claim
- 12:11and the facts and they will increase the offer
- 12:16and so you just continually go back and forth
- 12:18bringing up the facts of your claim and what's positive.
- 12:23- What's positive?
- 12:24Exploring again, like exploring every avenue.
- 12:27One quick question before we go to break
- 12:29and get into some more of these terms.
- 12:31Sometimes obviously, police are called every time
- 12:35and they're more often than not probably writing a ticket
- 12:39or a citation.
- 12:41Does that have to do with fault?
- 12:43- Yes, so generally a citation is written
- 12:46against the at-fault driver and they're being charged
- 12:49with a traffic violation, a crime,
- 12:52that at-fault driver have to respond to the citation
- 12:55by appearing in criminal court.
- 12:57So that's a big deal for our cases
- 12:58is because of the at-fault driver admits fault,
- 13:01becomes easier for our clients to prove their case.
- 13:03- All right, we're talking about legal terms,
- 13:07common legal terms, and next,
- 13:09what makes or breaks the case
- 13:12now that the claim or the lawsuit is getting underway.
- 13:16That's coming up next on "Lawyers in the House"
- 13:18with Philip Hairston and Margaret Grenleski.
- 13:20Stay with us.
- 13:23Welcome back to "Lawyers in the House with Montlick",
- 13:26I'm Veronica Waters here with Montlick injury attorneys,
- 13:28Philip Hairston and Margaret Grenleski
- 13:31teaching you some common legal terms,
- 13:34stuff that you will wanna know
- 13:35when you're listening to us talk about this show.
- 13:38Or if you have a case, God forbid.
- 13:41Let's learn about something that you have talked about,
- 13:44both of you have used the word settlement
- 13:45a couple of times already and I feel like I would be remiss
- 13:48if I didn't get you to explain exactly what that is.
- 13:52Am I settling for something?
- 13:54What's settlement?
- 13:55What's a settlement?
- 13:56- So you're settling your claim for money
- 14:00that the insurance company is offering
- 14:03so it will close out your claim
- 14:06and you cannot file a lawsuit after that.
- 14:08- This is like, I'm duking it out
- 14:09with the insurance companies to get to this settlement?
- 14:14- We at Montlick are duking it out, yes.
- 14:18That's for us to do.
- 14:20But yes, we will go back and forth
- 14:24with the insurance company and negotiate
- 14:26for the settlement offer and eventually
- 14:31you can either decide if you're going to accept
- 14:33the settlement offer or possibly move forward
- 14:35with filing a lawsuit.
- 14:37- All right, so very few of these cases
- 14:39actually go to trial, even if you file a lawsuit, right?
- 14:42- [Margaret] Yes.
- 14:43- But if you're one of the ones that does go to trial,
- 14:45so much has to happen before you ever get in front
- 14:48of a judge or a jury.
- 14:50What's that case?
- 14:52What's that called?
- 14:53- So the first part of that will be called the discovery.
- 14:56- [Veronica] Discovery. - Phase of the lawsuit, yeah.
- 14:58- [Veronica] That's a cable channel.
- 15:00- Yes, that too.
- 15:01So in the discovery part of the lawsuit,
- 15:03that's the first part of the lawsuit.
- 15:05The parties, the plaintiff, the defendant,
- 15:07they're entitled to find out evidence that they can use
- 15:10against the other party in the lawsuit.
- 15:13- [Veronica] So I'm discovering-
- 15:14- [Phillip] The evidence that you could use-
- 15:16- Okay. - [Phillip] Exactly.
- 15:16- [Veronica] Got it.
- 15:17- And so the first part of that starts
- 15:18with a term called interrogatories.
- 15:22- [Veronica] What?
- 15:23- Yes, exactly, it's a mouthful.
- 15:26- Interrogatories, okay.
- 15:27- So each party so for example, our clients, the plaintiffs,
- 15:30they can serve interrogatories on the defendant.
- 15:35And interrogatories are those long list of questions,
- 15:38written questions that the defendant has to answer
- 15:41and the defendant gets to serve our clients
- 15:43with the same kinda questions.
- 15:44So they might wanna ask our clients
- 15:46about their prior medical history
- 15:48to determine if the injury was caused by the accident
- 15:51or it was already preexisting.
- 15:52Our clients might wanna find out
- 15:55the defendant's driving record to see
- 15:56they have a habit of hitting other drivers.
- 15:59So that's sort of the first part of the lawsuit
- 16:03is just exchanging evidence and getting information
- 16:05that could lead to finding admissible evidence in a lawsuit.
- 16:07- And in addition to interrogatories, there are-
- 16:10- [Margaret] Depositions.
- 16:11- Depositions.
- 16:12- Which are usually in person and they bring in
- 16:19a court reporter and record the deposition
- 16:22and they ask you many, many questions,
- 16:24many of which are not even allowed
- 16:28to be brought up in court.
- 16:30However, they're just getting to know you
- 16:32and finding out information.
- 16:33And we can also depose the defendant as well.
- 16:37- Same kinda questions this time on video?
- 16:40- [Margaret] Yes.
- 16:41- Okay, now we're getting, it's kinda scary.
- 16:42All right, so what happens after the discovery,
- 16:45the interrogatories, the depositions.
- 16:48Now we're moving into maybe the final stages of that.
- 16:51That's coming up next
- 16:52on "Lawyers in the House with Montlick".
- 16:54I'm Veronica Waters, stay with us.
- 16:59Welcome back to "Lawyers in the House with Montlick",
- 17:02I'm your host, Veronica Waters
- 17:04here with Montlick injury attorneys,
- 17:05Philip Hairston and Margaret Grenleski.
- 17:08We're talking about common legal terms.
- 17:10And I want to take one second to show you this book,
- 17:15this thing, I think it's like something like 10 pounds,
- 17:19"Black's Law Dictionary".
- 17:21Listen, there are so many legal terms that these two know,
- 17:24that they carry around this knowledge in their heads,
- 17:27apparently day in and day out.
- 17:30We're not gonna give you through that but I just wanted to,
- 17:32this is almost as thick as a a dollar bill.
- 17:35All right, "Black's Law Dictionary"
- 17:36which I'm told is like the end all be all for attorneys.
- 17:39And my friends, a couple of lawyers who say,
- 17:42no attorney's office is complete without one.
- 17:46Is that accurate, yes? - [Phillip] I'd have to agree.
- 17:48- Yeah, okay but Philip likes his online, right?
- 17:52- Yes, that's a little heavy for me to carry around.
- 17:54- He's Mr. High Tech.
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- 18:16All right, so we are talking about common legal terms.
- 18:19I've learned, I'm a plaintiff suing a defendant.
- 18:22I've made a claim, we've filed a lawsuit,
- 18:24we've gone through the discovery process.
- 18:25So we discovered what each side had to offer,
- 18:28what are we saying in the interrogatories
- 18:30and the depositions on video.
- 18:31Now let's get down to the nitty gritty.
- 18:35It's the dollars and cents, yes?
- 18:37- [Margaret] Yes. - Okay, go.
- 18:40- Well, at some point after discovery,
- 18:43you will end up either going in front of a judge
- 18:45or a jury at court, depending on the type of case you file.
- 18:51And so all of the information that you've collected
- 18:54during the discovery process will be,
- 18:57not all of it necessarily
- 18:59but a lot of it will be used in court.
- 19:02And once the jury hears the the-
- 19:08- [Veronica] Evidence.
- 19:09- Evidence, yes.
- 19:10And the judge or the judge, they will make a decision
- 19:15as to how much of an award you will receive.
- 19:18- So what do you call that?
- 19:20Awards?
- 19:21Awards, compensation?
- 19:22- [Margaret] Compensation yes. - Compensation.
- 19:24All right.
- 19:25But so many of these cases are resolved
- 19:28without going to trial, yes?
- 19:31Are you still in front of a judge if you don't have a trial?
- 19:35- [Margaret] No. - No, okay.
- 19:37- [Margaret] No.
- 19:37- All right, so how do you determine, what's compensation?
- 19:39What are the types of compensation
- 19:41that I could possibly get?
- 19:44- So I guess I would start by just clarifying that
- 19:47you can only get monetary compensation.
- 19:50So a jury- - [Veronica] As opposed to?
- 19:52- Anything else.
- 19:53A jury can't make them give you a car.
- 19:56They can only award you money and that seems simple,
- 19:58it's something important to understand
- 19:59because the civil system only allows you
- 20:03to get monetary compensation.
- 20:05So that's important to think about.
- 20:07So when you go before a jury, you can ask for damages
- 20:12and that's the harm you've incurred
- 20:14and there's different kinds of damages.
- 20:15- [Veronica] Okay, okay.
- 20:17- So the first would be,
- 20:19so what I would call special damages, actual damages.
- 20:22Those are something that's easy to specify and to calculate.
- 20:26So for example, medical bills,
- 20:28that's gonna be a certain number.
- 20:29If you had lost wages 'cause you couldn't work
- 20:32'cause you're injured,
- 20:32that's a certain number you can easily determine.
- 20:35So that's part of what you can ask for.
- 20:38Medical bills, lost wages.
- 20:40You are also entitled to pain and suffering
- 20:42which is harder to calculate.
- 20:44Pain and suffering is a subjective damage
- 20:48that a jury would determine.
- 20:51And there are a lot of different ways to prove
- 20:54pain and suffering.
- 20:56So I always ask my clients in the beginning of the case,
- 20:59you're hurt, tell me something or tell me things
- 21:02that you could do before you were hurt
- 21:05that you either can't do today
- 21:07or couldn't do for a certain amount of time?
- 21:09And those examples are how I explain to a jury
- 21:13my client's pain and suffering.
- 21:14- So give me an example of one of those.
- 21:16- For example, I had a client who was a lifelong
- 21:19Atlanta Hawks fan.
- 21:20She's had season tickets for years.
- 21:23And she went to almost every single game every season.
- 21:26And she was in a pretty bad car accident
- 21:28and the accident hurt her lower back.
- 21:31So she was unable to sit for long periods of time
- 21:33without pain.
- 21:35So it made it very hard for her, really impossible
- 21:37for her to go to an Atlanta Hawks game
- 21:39and just sit there for two and a half hours.
- 21:41So she'd end up missing maybe 20 home games
- 21:44which for her is most she's missed in decades.
- 21:48So for her, that was a really big deal.
- 21:50And like I said, this is subjective.
- 21:51Some people don't care about basketball
- 21:53and they don't think that's the big deal but to her,
- 21:55that was her life, that was her biggest hobby.
- 21:57That's what she did outside of seeing her family
- 22:00and working which is going to Atlanta Hawks game.
- 22:01So for her, that was a really big deal
- 22:03and we had to explain that to a jury
- 22:07why she should be compensated for that.
- 22:09That's an activity she couldn't do anymore.
- 22:11- And did the jury get it? How did they respond to that?
- 22:13- Her case ended it favorably.
- 22:14I think they responded to her and agreed with her.
- 22:18Anyone who's hurt is gonna have their life affected.
- 22:20I don't care if it's broken back
- 22:22or just a scar on your face.
- 22:25Any kind of injury is gonna affect your life
- 22:27and you should be compensated for that.
- 22:29And our job is to fight for you.
- 22:31- Margaret, I would think
- 22:33and obviously correct me if I'm wrong,
- 22:34but I would think that if I've been hurt
- 22:36in like a car accident, we've been saying or anything,
- 22:39that pain and suffering is like an automatic.
- 22:43I've had pain, I'm suffering because of it.
- 22:45Yes, no?
- 22:47- It should be, however, the insurance company's job
- 22:50is to diminish your pain and suffering.
- 22:52- You're not really hurting like you think you are Veronica.
- 22:55- Exactly. - Oh, okay.
- 22:56- So it's our job to collect all of the information
- 23:00from you, all of your medical records
- 23:03and prove that you have suffered this pain and suffering.
- 23:06- Give me an example of when you've had to fight
- 23:09through one of these cases for like this somebody
- 23:11who actually did have that pain and suffering.
- 23:14- Well, I can think of a couple of cases
- 23:16where I had new mothers and they were actually
- 23:22unable to hold their child or breastfeed after the accident
- 23:27without immense pain.
- 23:29So it actually affected the, I guess,
- 23:33bonding with their newborn, the breastfeeding time
- 23:38which is very almost traumatizing for these women
- 23:43because they're a new mother and they want to bond
- 23:46with their newborn.
- 23:47So that's something that we've definitely talked about
- 23:51with the insurance companies in the past on different cases.
- 23:54- How do you calculate that?
- 23:55How do you calculate that though?
- 23:57And I just, understandably it's subjective, right?
- 24:02But it's emotional, you're painting this picture
- 24:05to the insurance companies, the juries,
- 24:08but how do you calculate?
- 24:09I mean, that's a priceless thing.
- 24:10I'm not a parent but I know many parents and I'm a daughter
- 24:14and how could you put a price tag
- 24:18on not being able to bond with your child?
- 24:22- It's difficult.
- 24:23I mean, how is there a price tag?
- 24:25So you have to really collect information from the client.
- 24:30You know, a lot of times they'll write a statement
- 24:32of how it affected their life and then we will present that
- 24:36to the insurance company or in court.
- 24:38I mean, if they're in court,
- 24:39they're gonna be testifying in court
- 24:43about how this has changed or what they've experienced.
- 24:47- You ever had a case, Margaret,
- 24:49where it was hard to keep your emotions out of it?
- 24:56- Of course, yes, definitely.
- 24:58- [Veronica] Yeah?
- 25:00- Yes because you wanna fight for your client
- 25:03as hard as you can and sometimes
- 25:06the things that they've experienced are just catastrophic.
- 25:12I did have a case where this young couple was driving home
- 25:19one night on their motorcycle and a man
- 25:24who actually came from another state
- 25:25drove into the city of Atlanta to buy some illicit drugs,
- 25:30actually ran over the motorcycle with my clients on it
- 25:35and left the scene.
- 25:37It was a hit and run.
- 25:39He was also on illicit drugs.
- 25:43He abandoned the vehicle somewhere
- 25:45and some other antics ensued after that
- 25:49while the police were trying to locate him.
- 25:52So that would call for punitive damages
- 25:57because anytime you have some willful or want and conduct
- 26:01that you commit, then you're gonna be punished.
- 26:04So punitive damages is designed to punish the defendant.
- 26:10So in that situation, I presented a punitive damages claim
- 26:16for the property damage.
- 26:17- [Veronica] Okay.
- 26:18- And so we actually used the wedding band,
- 26:21her wedding set, okay?
- 26:24And she was so proud of this wedding set,
- 26:27she said that she went, picked it out,
- 26:30her husband actually couldn't pay for it all at once
- 26:33so he had actually put it on layaway
- 26:35and paid for it over the course of a year or two for her.
- 26:37And she just felt as though that meant a lot to her
- 26:42especially now that he was deceased on the scene
- 26:45at the accident.
- 26:46- [Veronica] Of course.
- 26:47- So her wedding band was destroyed from basically,
- 26:51the road rash that she experienced.
- 26:53And I presented that wedding set
- 27:00for the punitive damages claim for the property damage.
- 27:04The adjuster actually had the gall to call me and say
- 27:09that it was purchased at Kmart and it wasn't worth the value
- 27:14of the minimum limits in Georgia of $25,000.
- 27:19And I'm probably gonna tear up right now talking about this
- 27:21but I just, I totally lost it.
- 27:25It was all I could do to compose myself and I just told him,
- 27:28I said, "I don't care if this came from a gumball machine
- 27:32"for 25 cents, this was her wedding set
- 27:36"and now her husband's deceased and I just can't believe
- 27:40"you would even bring something like that up."
- 27:42And what I later learned is or I figured out is that
- 27:46while she was in the hospital for two weeks on morphine,
- 27:50the insurance company had sent someone into the hospital,
- 27:53into her room and had been talking with family members
- 27:56and that's how they knew that the wedding set
- 28:00was possibly from a store like Sam's.
- 28:04So yes, I was just, oh, I was so upset.
- 28:11- That has got to be so hard to hear.
- 28:14And I've heard so many Montlick attorneys talk about
- 28:19how they love being able to represent people,
- 28:25the folks who are actually hurt here.
- 28:28And it makes me think that someone who might throw out
- 28:32that idea would maybe not be thinking so much
- 28:34about the people behind the wedding band, so to speak.
- 28:40You know, how do you-
- 28:43- Their job is simply to diminish your claim.
- 28:47That's the whole job of the insurance adjuster.
- 28:51- Even if it sounds really harsh.
- 28:53- Yes, definitely. - Overly harsh maybe.
- 28:56- [Margaret] Yes. - Yeah.
- 28:57Philip used to work for insurance companies.
- 28:59- I did for the first four or five years of my career
- 29:02represented major insurance companies
- 29:05pretty much doing what Margaret just said,
- 29:06trying to reduce the value of people's injuries claims.
- 29:10And after doing that for a couple of years,
- 29:12I decided to make a change and do some good in the world.
- 29:15- Yeah, did you and quickly, if I remember correctly,
- 29:19didn't you work as your own lawyer one time?
- 29:22- Yes, during 2020
- 29:25I was involved in a rear end collision myself
- 29:27so I was hit from behind so I had to file my own claim
- 29:30against this driver's insurance company.
- 29:33And I had to explain to them, well one, I'm hurt
- 29:36and my own pain and suffering.
- 29:38For me, I'm an avid runner, I love running races.
- 29:40I do 10Ks and half marathons fairly regularly.
- 29:43And I had to miss two races
- 29:45'cause I physically could not run following my injuries.
- 29:48- Were you successful on your behalf?
- 29:50Did your attorney prevail for you?
- 29:52- Yes, I did.
- 29:53We did settle without filing a lawsuit, yes.
- 29:55- All right, fantastic.
- 29:56All right, thank you so much.
- 29:57Phillip Hairston and Margaret Grenleski giving us the 101
- 30:01on common legal terms.
- 30:03Coming up, the Montlick Closing Argument,
- 30:06what's it gonna be?
- 30:07Philip and Margaret are gonna take it away.
- 30:10Stay with us, you don't wanna miss it.
- 30:12(bright upbeat music)
- 30:15Welcome back to "Lawyers in the House with Montlick" on WSB.
- 30:18I'm your host, Veronica Waters.
- 30:20We've been talking common legal terms here
- 30:22on this episode of "Lawyers in the House"
- 30:24with Margaret Grenleski and Philip Hairston.
- 30:27I don't know what "Black's Law Dictionary" says about
- 30:32exotic young women.
- 30:33I'm gonna see if I can find a definition in here for that.
- 30:37But in the meantime,
- 30:38it is time for Montlick Closing Argument.
- 30:41So Margaret and Philip, you've got the floor.
- 30:44- Okay, well, Veronica, just wanna mention that
- 30:48with "Black's Law Dictionary", you shouldn't be overwhelmed
- 30:51because that's what we're here for.
- 30:53We're here to help you navigate the case or the claim
- 30:58and the situation and you can always call 1-800-LAW-NEED
- 31:03which is nationwide and we can assist you
- 31:07to walk you through the steps to file a claim
- 31:11if you're injured in a personal injury claim.
- 31:12- [Veronica] I don't have to handle it alone?
- 31:14- No, that's what we're here for.
- 31:16- And I would add that every call,
- 31:18every consultation's completely free.
- 31:20There's new obligation.
- 31:22I think we said before that we only get paid
- 31:25on a contingency fee which means that we only get paid
- 31:28if we can get our clients an award.
- 31:30So if we don't get anything, you don't owe us anything.
- 31:33So there's no obligation, there's no risk in calling us.
- 31:36If you have any kind of questions or concerns
- 31:38or how would you think might be a case?
- 31:40Just give us a call and we'll talk about it.
- 31:41- Yeah and also, how often do you have somebody
- 31:45who maybe calls and doesn't even know the terminology?
- 31:49I don't know what I don't know.
- 31:51And I shouldn't be intimidated, right? To ask?
- 31:54- Right and that's what we're here for
- 31:54and that happens all the time.
- 31:55Clients think they might have a call or might have a case,
- 31:58they call, we talk about it and if they have a case,
- 32:00that's great.
- 32:01And if not, we tell 'em how we can give mother help
- 32:03or point 'em the right direction.
- 32:04- What's one of the best feelings that you've had
- 32:09in this business since you became an attorney?
- 32:15- Marg, you wanna take this one or should I start?
- 32:18- Well, I mean, anytime you resolve a claim for someone
- 32:22and they feel as though they've been compensated
- 32:26for their loss, that's a great feeling.
- 32:29- [Veronica] Does it ever get old?
- 32:30- No, absolutely not.
- 32:33- [Veronica] Never feels like the same day
- 32:34over and over again, guys?
- 32:35- No, every case is different.
- 32:38Every case has different intricacies and different facts.
- 32:42- I agree.
- 32:44All of our clients are hurt through no fault of their own
- 32:47and they all need help.
- 32:48So helping people get what they deserve
- 32:51is never old or tiring.
- 32:53Frankly, it's it's fun and it's rewarding.
- 32:55- Today's word,
- 32:57one more word I'm gonna throw in there, compassion.
- 33:00That's what you're getting when you get these attorneys
- 33:02from Montlick.
- 33:03Thank you so much for staying with us.
- 33:05For "Lawyers in the house", don't forget to find us online
- 33:08at lawyersinthehouse.com.
- 33:10See us where you get your podcasts and make sure
- 33:14that you hit us up on social @montlicklaw.
- 33:16We would love to see you,
- 33:17send us your questions 24 hours a day.
- 33:20I'm Veronica Waters, we will see you
- 33:22for the next episode of "Lawyers in the House"
- 33:24right here on WSB.
- 33:26Peace out.
- 33:27(bright upbeat music)
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