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2:04My dears, Roman's observatory, another
2:06episode, important topics and a very
2:08unorthodox perspective from Roman Nacht
2:11.
2:15>> Nieort.
2:16>> Today's topic is a firecracker, not at
2:19all sad.
2:21>> I wouldn't like to touch on the topic
2:23of death, my dears, Roman, what is
2:25death? Besides being a part of life,
2:31>> yes, I also welcome everyone, and we
2:34need to talk about death, because death
2:36is a part; it's a process. I'm not a
2:41teacher and I'm learning. I'm sharing
2:45with you what I've learned, discovered,
2:47and know about death. But many treat
2:53you as a teacher, and I think many need
2:55to sort out something that terrifies
2:57them, and you are a very suitable
2:59repository for the function of removing
3:01fear.
3:05>> Thank you for recognizing my work. So
3:10yes, death, what is it? It's the name
3:16of a certain natural process that
3:18occurs on matter, not on the plane of
3:20matter above, because we no longer have
3:22material bodies there. We live
3:30immaterially, so we don't need to be
3:32born and die. We incarnate knowing that
3:39one day we will have to leave this body
3:41and take nothing from this material
3:43world with us, including our bodies
3:44that have served us so far. Incarnation
3:52is not joyful, and death is not sad. We
3:58neither rejoice nor grieve. For example
4:01, I was once on a deserted island. You
4:05were told about the archipelago of the
4:07rags, and so was French Polynesia.
4:12There, when a child is born, the
4:13wailers come and cry for a few minutes
4:15and tell them that hard times have come
4:18upon you, and you will learn such
4:19lessons that God grant you health. And
4:24when someone dies, they come and revel,
4:29moving on the waves, so that the soul
4:31can sail back to where it came from.
4:34They are dressed in white. I really
4:36like that.
4:38>> I also like that all the ceremonies
4:39associated with departure should be in
4:41white.
4:42>> Yes. Yes. And not black and not sad.
4:46>> Yes.
4:48>> And now yes. The moment we, as
4:52spiritual beings, enter a body, we
4:54incarnate, because we enter a body. If
5:00we enter for the first time, that's
5:02incarnation. If we return home or from
5:09where we came and return, we
5:11reincarnate, because that means we go
5:13back and forth. It's reversing. We
5:20return, we incarnate again, but
5:22reincarnation is called reincarnation.
5:29We incarnate similarly because we
5:31either want to accomplish something we
5:33haven't had time to do—say, I'm
5:35writing books, I wrote these down and
5:37didn't have time for various reasons,
5:39right?
5:42>> And do you still want to say something,
5:44and therefore you have to finish it? So
5:47, yes, I still want to finish this work
5:50. For example, I could be working as a
5:54scientist on some project. Another soul
5:59at the same time, whether in a male or
6:02female body, is engaged in radiation.
6:06It came from a certain world, it had to
6:08incarnate. Oh, maybe we should go a
6:12step forward, or a step back. To come
6:17into this world, we had to descend
6:19several levels of consciousness. We
6:24descend the levels, so we had to burden
6:26ourselves to descend, to
6:29>> become denser,
6:30>> right? And we had to stop certain
6:33processes within ourselves, to block
6:35them. This will later be called the
6:42subconscious, because somewhere we will
6:45remember that we are not the body we
6:47entered, but the moment we enter, we
6:48enter a process called amnesia. This is
6:58a state of consciousness in which we
7:00are unaware of who we are for a time,
7:02but to prevent forgetting, we leave a
7:04deposit in the subconscious. We enter
7:10this world unaware of what awaits us
7:12here. This, in turn, is the unconscious
7:17. And just like in the junk world, as
7:22geneticists call it, the junk genes
7:24contain very important information. Yes
7:27, there is very important information
7:30in the subconscious, and in hypnosis,
7:32in regression, it can be extracted.
7:38Someone is sick, and you need to know
7:40the cause: is it endogenous, is he
7:43getting sick karmically to help the
7:45patient, or is it exogenous, is he
7:48reacting this way to radioactivity, or
7:50to 4G, 5G, or WiFi, or even certain
7:53toxic signals, right? After all,
8:03they're officially throwing these
8:05things at us today, so we're entering
8:07the body for the first time. After a
8:13while, we definitely won't like it here
8:15. Why? Because in our subconscious, we
8:18remember that things were different,
8:19that they were supposed to be different
8:21. Every now and then, we'll see that
8:24things are unfair here. But before that
8:27happens, our state of hypnosis deepens.
8:32That is, someone leans over a stroller.
8:35It's me, Mommy, that mommy. Say, Mommy,
8:38say. Mommy, I have it. Oh, what a
8:42clever girl, what a girl. Girl, boy,
8:47penises—these are suggestions, and we
8:49live in a state of amnesia. Each of us
8:57lives in amnesia and is mentally
8:59implanted with concepts. Mommy, daddy,
9:07auntie, Clara, uncle, this, that,
9:10doggie, kitten, birdie. Pink, blue,
9:15stick to your path.
9:16>> Yes, yes, yes, yes. And now look, if
9:22someone speaks Polish to us, we will
9:24definitely speak Polish too. As if we
9:29were born in France, if we were
9:31somewhere in a state of consciousness,
9:33we are French and we would speak French
9:35. As if we were born in a state of flux
9:39, if we would speak Arabic, and so on,
9:41and so forth. So there's nothing good
9:44here. Flux in a flux.
9:47>> Yeah, right. And then it starts, who
9:51are you, little Pole? Then it starts,
9:54someone's ending is polished, so you're
9:56a Jew. Let's say someone wasn't
10:00polished, they were just sprayed with
10:02water. A Pole is a Catholic, and so on,
10:06and so forth.
10:08>> All these labels emerge.
10:11>> Skin. And you know what?
10:13>> And you know what? It's not cool
10:16anymore. We stop talking cool, we start
10:20talking systemically. Yes.
10:23>> And really, uh, why do they get sad
10:25when we're born? Because we come to
10:28prison. Yes. We come to serve some kind
10:31of sentence.
10:32>> We lose our freedom.
10:33>> Exactly.
10:40>> And that means we weaken, they weaken
10:42us here, the moment we emerge through
10:44this living portal from within the
10:46microcosm that is mother, we emerge
10:48into a new world, we breathe it into
10:50ourselves, we take our first inhale and
10:53exhale, we feel something new and
10:55describe it. That's all it means. I am
11:07here now, and that is the name of God.
11:12I am life, and that is each of us,
11:14because we are fractals, particles of
11:16one great I am life. But we forgot
11:22about that and we start making
11:23suggestions. They catch us, carry us,
11:28put us on the ground. Our body, we are
11:31already in the body. We feel the cold.
11:35For the first time, we emerged from the
11:37warmth, from the fluid, from the liquid
11:39. Someone in a warehouse, think about
11:46it, someone turns us upside down on a
11:48cold tray or on a scale, kicks us in
11:51the ass, and so on. A
11:53>> disaster. A disaster. I'm not saying
11:57they'll inject us with substances that,
11:59in my opinion, are immediately
12:01forbidden.
12:03>> These are now called, in my new
12:05nomenclature, "happy substances.""
12:08>> Happy substances," yes, "
12:10>> happy substances." We knew we'd get
12:14through this. So, descending to Earth,
12:18we went through various states of
12:20consciousness. We burdened ourselves,
12:24the lower we descended, the more we
12:26burdened ourselves with certain
12:28vibrations. We descended here, we were
12:32hypnotized.
12:36>> Some say we agreed, you know, to this
12:38implant—even to the point where we'd
12:40pass through a wall of syringes. We
12:44knew.
12:46>> I know for a fact that I didn't agree,
12:48although no one asked me at the time.
12:51No, no, no, because on the other hand,
12:54where we come from, our teachers and
12:56our families are. Some members of our
13:00spiritual families, some teachers, have
13:02already been on Earth, and they have
13:04the right to assess us. He who hasn't
13:08been on earth can't be a teacher,
13:09therefore he who descends. Robert
13:17Schwarz says that in that space you're
13:19talking about, we leave a part of
13:21ourselves, our spirit, so that we can
13:22connect with the other world at any
13:24time and know where we're returning
13:25when the moment comes when we have to
13:27park there again for a while.
13:34>> Exactly, and you said it well. We are
13:39still infants, still living as infants,
13:42constantly receiving impulses from that
13:44world, images from that world, feelings
13:47from that world, and we make this face,
13:49for example, and he's smiling at
13:51Grandma, not at all.
13:55>> Here, in this direction, pretend to be
13:57a stroller so you can be seen better.
13:59Here you have a stroller, here you are
14:01in a stroller.
14:02>> Yes, yes, yes. And now what's the point
14:06? The point is that we succumb to
14:13weather suggestions and we also hear
14:15certain suggestions, as we grow older,
14:18we hear things like: "Today is a
14:20beautiful day because the sun is
14:21shining. Oh, today is a bad day because
14:27it's raining. Today is cold, today is
14:30hot. This smells nice, this smells bad.
14:38Slowly, slowly, we identify with the
14:40world we live in and we think that it's
14:42always been this way and that it's
14:44supposed to be this way. For example,
14:48my two grandsons, you know? One Slavic,
14:52one Indian. They speak to each other in
14:58English, and when I talk to them, each
15:00of them is already holding this
15:01rectangle in their hand and listening,
15:03looking at me, and then they're doing
15:05something down there and checking if
15:07what I'm saying is in the omniscient
15:09Wikipedia, or even adding to it. If I
15:13say, for example," A UFO was talking, "
15:15we get into the UFO topic. It's very
15:18nice that my grandchildren and I never
15:20thought about having grandchildren, and
15:22about UFOs and such telephones. But
15:24They even add, no, that he's some kind
15:26of UFO, grandpa, gone crazy, right? Yes
15:30, there were also triangular ones over
15:33Belgium, and over South America, over
15:35Bolivia in 1979. He doesn't even know
15:38what 979 means, because they're already
15:41there, you know, and that's how it goes
15:43. Lem wrote about such things. Once,
15:47but no one treated the world as such,
15:50how did he know, and so on. And now we
15:54enter a certain state of consciousness.
16:01If we're susceptible to suggestions
16:03that perpetuate the hypnotic state,
16:05it's called," This is my good child. "
16:09He nods, sits down, sits there, he's a
16:12good boy British. They put a cap on him
16:15, a sit-down uniform. He sits there,
16:18and until they call him, he sits,
16:20waiting. They take him like this," Read
16:23Book, "he does enough, and then he
16:25stops. But there are children who feel
16:30that he is energy. These children today
16:34are already receiving honors,
16:37>> right? So that they don't feel it.
16:38>> So that they don't feel it. Well, how
16:40can I not? If I feel, I stop living. I
16:43am a feeling. God is a feeling. Life is
16:45a feeling. Everything is a feeling.
16:50Even bad feelings are low vibrations,
16:52but they are feelings. For example, I
16:55get angry, I curse, but I feel
16:57something.
16:58>> But you know what, we also
16:59underestimate the importance of the
17:03sphere of feelings. We chain ourselves,
17:07attach importance to emotions that
17:08bring us down, and the sphere of
17:10feelings doesn't follow it at all, it
17:12doesn't interest us. We think that it's
17:18just some ordinary, ordinary thing that
17:21>> accompanies matter. You
17:25>> say," I feel cold, "or" You feel hot, "
17:27but you say," I feel like I don't want
17:30to do something, "or" I'm laughing at
17:32something. "You're not allowed to laugh
17:35at this woman because she's an elderly
17:37person. They're
17:39>> consciously programming this. They're
17:42programming. Meanwhile, we laugh, for
17:45example, because Aunt Klara slipped.
17:50Why? Because she made certain movements
17:52that would make us look ridiculous.
17:53That's not allowed. If they told us not
17:56to. If they told us, it's funny, but
18:01for example, if auntie fell, she might
18:03hit herself like you did yesterday,
18:05right? Your elbow hurt, right, we don't
18:10want that, and that's positive
18:11programming. However, it's allowed,
18:15it's not allowed, don't say it. Bad
18:18words, but he heard bad words when Dad
18:21said yesterday, for example, that
18:23Kowalska has an awfully large sacristy.
18:28Oh, and we program ourselves. I
18:32remember being programmed as a child.
18:35Do
18:36>> you think death is one of the programs?
18:39We
18:40>> all die someday. You don't tell
18:42children about death at first. Later,
18:44you tell them it's terrible, later you
18:46say it's necessary. For example, I
18:49heard from patients that when Grandpa
18:51died, they took her, she talked, he
18:54fell asleep, and never saw him again.
18:56Grandpa died, she'll never see him
18:58again. They told her to go kiss Grandpa
19:00on the lips. She also didn't want to
19:03kiss Grandpa, for example, because
19:05she'd never kissed him at all, because
19:07apparently Grandpa didn't kiss his
19:08granddaughter on the lips. example, and
19:11forced. And look, an older woman, about
19:1560, comes to me, and she remembers it.
19:19I do a certain exercise with her—she
19:21remembers it. I say," Remember
19:23something unpleasant from your
19:25childhood. "And suddenly the woman says
19:27, you know, it's not like I lived with
19:29this all the time. She remembers either
19:33being dragged to church, or someone,
19:39you know, being very rude to their
19:41daughter, bringing friends from the
19:43army. I say," What do you need, Mom? ""
19:47She says, 'She drank with them, Mr.
19:49Roman, and she saw.' Yes, these are all
19:53the procedures that are installed in a
19:55child, because I believe that these are
19:58precisely such installations, no,
20:00installations of beliefs, and these
20:02beliefs cause every person to always
20:04operate at the same level and not even
20:06think about changing this level or
20:08jumping higher.
20:11>> That this is how this world is
20:13>> and they think they have no right to
20:15choose,
20:16>> that this is how it has to be. First,
20:18they think
20:20>> and are raised in this system precisely
20:22as petitioners intimidated by the death
20:24program, the program of illness, and
20:26the death program. As we said to
20:29ourselves off the record, there's no
20:31point in talking about health, because
20:33health is a functionality of
20:35consciousness, it's part of
20:36consciousness. The more conscious a
20:39person is, the more health. A
20:41>> conscious person is healthy. Period.
20:45This is precisely why health doesn't
20:47cause any deficits or damage, but death
20:49is a very strong bogeyman, very strong.
20:56And if we were given proof that our
20:58consciousness is eternal, consciousness
21:00, perception, that we can take
21:02experiences further, we wouldn't be so
21:04susceptible to this satanic temptation.
21:10which tells us: "Sell yourself." Is
21:13death at the disposal of the lord of
21:15matter, Roman? Is
21:17>> death material?
21:18>> Yes. As long as the soul doesn't allow
21:24itself to be led to believe that death
21:26exists, that means one day you won't
21:28live anymore. You'll fall over and
21:33that's it. As long as I'm being
21:36programmed, you can also take life.
21:38That's what it's called. What does
21:40taking life mean? You shoot someone,
21:42you harm them, you throw them out of
21:44the body. There are certain old books
21:49where it is written that the one who
21:51knows why they kill doesn't really kill
21:53, but only throws spirits out of the
21:55body. Why are these evil spirits? He
22:00doesn't take life out of the material.
22:03In my kingdom, around me, you won't be
22:06—we see this even today in the Middle
22:08East. Enough with this terrorism. We're
22:12throwing spirits out of bodies. There
22:14will be no more terrorists around us.
22:16End of story. Period. Okay, but those
22:19people call you terrorists, so let them
22:21kill us too. What's going on? Mortal
22:26struggles arose because they believe in
22:28death. You can't be mortal and believe
22:32in eternal life. To Believe in eternal
22:35life, still don't believe, because you
22:38do. You must know. I am life, eternally
22:41flowing with light. End of story. Each
22:46of us has been here before, or maybe
22:48not the first, but each of us has
22:51probably been here before, and each of
22:53us has died perhaps once, twice, 10
22:55times, and we are still here, and now
22:57we have met again. It's not about how
23:02many times we have died, or how many we
23:04haven't. It's about living so that we
23:09don't need more life in matter. That's
23:14unnecessary.
23:16>> Roman, if death is like life, because
23:18death is part of life, it's a material
23:20experience,
23:22>> of course,
23:22>> and you
23:26>> know, Asia is interested in this, and
23:29European civilization isn't so
23:30interested, but in the possibility that
23:32is being allowed to exist in Asia, that
23:35there is a
23:39>> third state of functioning. Science is
23:44now even confirming that just as water,
23:46thanks to memory storage, combines into
23:48clusters, so too, after death,
23:50individual cells combine into specific
23:52clusters that continue to live. I'll do
23:56a program about this, because the topic
23:57is extremely interesting. However, in
23:59my opinion, Asia has been looking into
24:02this for a long time. compartments,
24:05because Asia allows for borderline
24:07states, bardo states, and situations in
24:09which, in an enchanted, flooded figure,
24:19suddenly inside, they see a human being
24:21on an X-ray film and even examine
24:23whether it has vital functions. For
24:27Asians, they are more understandable
24:28than for us; we don't understand it. We
24:32fight to preserve non-aging in our
24:34cells, right? We support this material
24:38paradigm. We want to survive here as
24:43long as possible, slowing down organic
24:45processes. The moment we accept that
24:51life is also beyond the sphere of
24:52material experience, it turns out that
24:54we age more slowly. This is a curiosity
24:59that intrigues those involved in this
25:03research. Also, since ancient Egypt,
25:08much has been said about the
25:09functionality of the pineal gland and
25:11the presence of superconducting
25:13crystals within it. In this traversal
25:18of the path between dimensions. There
25:25are cool videos on YouTube illustrating
25:27what dimensions are, because it's
25:29difficult to grasp with imagination if
25:31we think about material perception.
25:37However, if we want to see Death as a
25:39certain sequence experienced by the
25:41eternal spirit
25:46>> as eternal life.
25:48>> Exactly. And the spirit simply, through
25:51its experience, just as I change makeup
25:54and clothes,
25:56>> this spirit simply changes these suits.
25:59I'll
25:59>> just change clothes. Makeup. No,
26:03>> I don't know if we'll come back. I
26:04don't know if you'll come back. I think
26:06I won't come back after I leave. That's
26:09>> probably not why I'm laughing now. But
26:16listen, um, if we think about this
26:18material approach, then there's nothing
26:20to be afraid of either, because there
26:21are methods to remember that it
26:27>> was already there, right? And there are
26:31also non-hypnotic methods, so I'm not
26:33talking about regressions; we can
26:35remember by observing ourselves while
26:37engaged in this process.
26:41>> You can ask the subconscious to show
26:43what serves my development, not what
26:45serves it, because, you know, because
26:47later people start to convince
26:49themselves, and then they start lying.
26:53I've never met anyone who was, you know
26:55, beaten on the back as a slave, but
26:57everyone wanted to be king and Pharaoh.
27:01>> You only knew the pharaohs, the
27:02pharaohs. Nobody wanted to be a slave.
27:06Someone kicked him in the ass on the
27:07street. You don't know that. Why am I
27:11pretending? That's why I stopped doing
27:13these regressions with people, because
27:15they started lying and making up
27:17unnecessary stories. However, you have
27:21to be careful. A digression,
27:23>> but you know, I've already met so many
27:25of these, so many Ramses, you know,
27:26it's really true that they were all
27:28pharaohs.
27:29>> I really wonder how many of these
27:31residents there were in this body, you
27:33know, if any, because I don't believe
27:34that the soul resides in the body. I
27:38believe it visits it, connects with it,
27:40and exists beyond time and space. I
27:43mean, the spirit, to be precise.
27:47However, I believe that just because
27:49you stopped doing these regressions
27:50doesn't absolve you of responsibility
27:52now not to talk about it, because I
27:54know you did it,
27:56>> right? I did it, and because of them, I
27:58do it more. That's why I deal with
28:00holopathy. Everyone can do it
28:02themselves.
28:03>> You can do it yourself.
28:06>> You can do it. Certain meditations, I
28:08mean, not certain. It's specifically
28:12about mental health. I meditate, right?
28:16I am life. Life pulsates within me. I
28:21am the carrier of life. I am the life
28:25that animates this body, this avatar,
28:27this, and so on, and so forth. It
28:30radiates. In my subconscious is the
28:35memory of the life I lived in another
28:37body. If it's good for my spiritual
28:45development, I'd like to recall these
28:47images that will serve me, and not on
28:48the principle of being a powerhouse,
28:50then I want to be anew because I'll be
28:52covering my recordings and making money
28:54. Yes, no? It's not about that, because
29:02that's what I'm telling you about
29:04biomaterialism: people want to be
29:06constantly reborn, but always be young,
29:08beautiful, and rich. Such a life would
29:12be meaningless. If you
29:15>> are that youth, right?
29:16>> No, it's not supposed to be like that.
29:19We are supposed to come back, we are
29:21supposed to finish what we left undone,
29:23or we are supposed to teach what we
29:25haven't learned so far. time. And where
29:29we were, in the afterlife, time doesn't
29:31exist. Here, because the light blinks
29:35day, night, day, night, we succumb to
29:38the illusion that time passes, so we
29:40can learn faster, because it's an
29:45illusion. Day, night, day, night. But
29:48in reality, we rotate with the planet
29:51and think that now it's sunrise and now
29:53it's sunset, but we truly believe.
29:57Those who believe in it don't know
29:58anything. Those who don't believe in it
30:01don't know either. Only those who live
30:04it know. So we don't go to sleep
30:09because it's dark and now it's pee and
30:11sleep and go to bed. A bead, and only
30:17in that order, because it becomes a
30:19routine, a routine becomes a tradition.
30:24Even from this we have a bead, a bead,
30:28a bead,
30:29>> and you can't sleep, for example, go to
30:32sleep, it'll take you and then die, a
30:34bead in the morning. It was like this,
30:39it can't be, it must be, this behind
30:41this, this behind this, why this is
30:43happening because on the plane of
30:45matter, there is a plan, the law of
30:47cause and effect applies, which doesn't
30:49exist in the afterlife, because time
30:52doesn't exist. When I was in prison in
30:56The GDR, they would turn the lights on
30:58for me or turn them off. That was only
31:03later, because at first I spent almost
31:07a year in the dark. There were no
31:09windows. The blinds were blocked
31:13>> so the light couldn't be seen, so the
31:16>> only open windows
31:17>> were a little rectangle above the door.
31:20In the rectangle was a light bulb.
31:22>> Exactly. You can see who invented the
31:24system.
31:26>> The forces of darkness.
31:28>> Exactly.
31:29>> And there was a light bulb there and
31:30there. In front of the light bulb was a
31:33glass pane somewhere this thick. That
31:36there was no way you could get there,
31:38breakouts, suicides, nothing like that.
31:41It was all planned, but we're not
31:42talking about that. And I went to sleep
31:48when I was told. Otherwise, when you're
31:50supposed to go to bed, when they tell
31:59you to, you have to get up when they
32:01tell you to, meaning suddenly the cell
32:03light comes on, the hatch opens. In
32:09this case, someone gives you a key. You
32:12have to go to the wall, open the lock,
32:14it falls down, and you get hit on the
32:16knees the first time. This kind of
32:20coffin is called a clap-a-clap. Ho
32:24clap-a-clap, because you Hooch, flap,
32:26and the liquid falls. You get into this
32:30coffin, right? First, you hand over the
32:34key, it locks, you get in the coffin,
32:36and you have to lie there until
32:38suddenly someone kicks the door or
32:40slams the keys in the door, you get up,
32:42and you have to get up. For example,
32:46when I didn't want to do it, I'd lie
32:48down on the floor during the day. I
32:50didn't know if it was day or night.
32:52Suddenly I felt sleepy, so I lay down.
32:55They were the ones banging on the door
32:57and forcing me to get up. Why? Because
33:00they knew it wasn't night yet, and I
33:02didn't. That's how I figured out if it
33:05was day or night. I never heard where
33:10the two guards were walking behind the
33:12door, because one was filming the other
33:14. They walked around in slippers. It's
33:17eternal silence. The silence is broken
33:20only by people who have gone crazy,
33:22howling, screaming. Sometimes you could
33:25hear women from upstairs, because
33:27they'd turn it off. Soprano, and here
33:31the bass, sometimes that's all. But
33:35there was something else too. Sometimes
33:39they gave The trapdoor when he opened
33:41it and gave me the key. If there was a
33:45light on, I understood it was night.
33:48>> But you know what I mean? Listening to
33:52you tell this story, I realize that
33:54it's not just vulgarity and devilry
33:56behind it. Behind it lies a very
34:01profound knowledge of the positive
34:03effects of sensory deprivation. If you,
34:07uh, don't allow this disorder, uh,
34:10which results from these, uh, light
34:18impulses, then thanks to the pineal
34:20gland, you can enter a very antenna
34:22state,
34:26>> which can show you many worlds. So,
34:30what you shouldn't do is allow the
34:32prisoner to experience this, right?
34:35That's why
34:37>> we hit them with various aggressive, as
34:39the story goes, it may sound so
34:41mediocre, nothing special. They turn
34:45the light on or off, but just sit in a
34:46place like that. Sit there twice.
34:51>> Do
34:52>> what Roman says. But, uh, when we
34:57talked once, Off Record, you told me
34:59that, uh, during your imprisonment, A
35:01lot has happened spiritually within you
35:03.
35:05>> Yes. Could
35:09>> you, uh, in this observatory dedicated
35:11to natural processes, including
35:12developmental ones, because death is
35:14also a lever of development, looking at
35:17the spiritual experience of existence.
35:22Could you tell us a little about it
35:24here?
35:26>> Yes, I could, because I experienced
35:28something there. It was experiencing in
35:31darkness or experiencing in sunlight,
35:33because I was there, for example, by
35:35the oceans. I spent most of my time in
35:38this life by the oceans, by the seas,
35:40palm trees, and so on. Just as it's
35:44autumn now, the leaves are looking
35:46beautiful, I'll soon be cold, because I
35:48got used to something else there. In my
35:52cell, I also got used to something else
35:55during those two years. And now
36:01something is happening within you: you
36:03see through the trapdoor that a 50-watt
36:05light bulb is on in the corridor, so it
36:07must be evening if the light is on. If
36:14it wasn't, it must be daytime, but you
36:16can't see everything. When I got out of
36:22that prison after two years, two more
36:24years passed, and the Bible somehow
36:26reached me. I I open the Bible and read
36:29. And God called light day, and
36:32darkness he called it. Oh, I called it
36:37that way then too, but those are just
36:39names, not reality.
36:42>> So you learned about concepts that are
36:43created, that are born into a person.
36:46That's right.
36:47>> Yes, about concepts. Now, I lived first
36:52in another world, in Frankfurt am Main.
36:56Later, I'm living in rehab for years
36:59from that world. Today I see it, I was
37:04simply taken away on a chessboard from
37:06here to here, because I couldn't stand
37:08those nightclubs anymore. My father
37:11says, "Okay, son,
37:13>> rehab for two years. I was a monk of a
37:18certain kind, but I wouldn't willingly
37:20become a monk. Father has his ways. But
37:25now what do I want to tell you about?
37:27About what you asked me about. Once
37:30upon a time, God only knows when it was
37:32. Whether it was day or night in a cell
37:35. I fell asleep, that's what I call it,
37:40and I dream that I'm sitting on a
37:42balcony in some city." It's evening,
37:48I'm typing something, and out of the
37:50corner of my eye I notice a white taxi
37:53arriving. The door opens. A girl steps
37:59out of the taxi. I stare, knowing that
38:04in a moment she'll enter the gate, go
38:07up to the first floor, enter through it
38:09, climb onto the balcony, and ask me
38:11something. And I know what she'll ask
38:16me in this dream, but I don't know her,
38:19I know nothing. Five years pass. I'm in
38:24Tel Aviv. I rented an apartment on Frug
38:30Street, where he bought it from a man
38:32who had a large ship. He was the first
38:40Israeli millionaire to buy a ship, sail
38:42outside Israeli territorial waters, and
38:45set up a station there, Kol Shalom. He
38:52could broadcast whatever he wanted
38:54because the censors couldn't tell him
38:56what to do. He says, "I'm not in Israel
38:58." And he was the first. He did the
39:04second thing, he made hamburgers for
39:06religious people, only beef hamburgers,
39:09and for tourists he had a second one,
39:11it was called the California hamburger,
39:13for Americans, and for Ang Swine, also
39:16made of pork. So it was Persian. Back
39:23then, Iran wasn't yet possessed,
39:25possessed by those
39:29>> ayatollahs.
39:30>> Ayatollahs, yes, by the gang of
39:32ayatollahs. And you know, the Shah's
39:37son is ashamed today of what they're
39:39doing to Iran. Anyway, five years have
39:43passed since then. Marta, my girlfriend
39:49, comes in, wanting to see Israel. I
39:54took her to Israel. She was happy as a
39:57child that in December you could go
39:59into the sea, that there were palm
40:01trees, that it was warm, and so on, and
40:03so forth. And now I know what I dreamed
40:06, what she'd ask. Will we eat at home
40:09or go to the seaside? What could we
40:12have talked about? Tel Aviv. Why did I
40:17dream that, if it was my future?
40:20Because there is no death, no
40:24>> time.
40:24>> Time, time doesn't exist, no places,
40:27that is, space. Space connects us. We
40:31sit here; you can measure a meter and a
40:33half between us. This space unites us,
40:36not divides us. We even breathe the
40:39same air, the same oxygen. And we were
40:43taught that we are me, and this is
40:45already Monika. That's not me. We're
40:47all in the same boat. Just you stay in
40:50your doll, and in yours. Otherwise,
40:52everyone would be Monika or Roman. Yes.
40:55No, we
40:56>> won't allow that. That's
41:01>> why certain old races of slant-eyed
41:03people on their planets wanted to get
41:05rid of jealousy, that everyone would
41:07look the same. There won't be any
41:12tricks.
41:13>> But that's how it is now. Listen,
41:15everyone looks the same. Everyone has
41:17high cheekbones, prominent lips. Do you
41:20understand?
41:21>> Yes.
41:22>> Young, smooth lips. I think youth is
41:26overrated
41:27>> and has everything at once. There's
41:29both bottom and top. There's a guy.
41:34>> Apparently, 17%of the population is
41:36born with nature's undecided gender.
41:41Why are they incarnating now? Come on,
41:43let's think about it.
41:44>> The system, okay, but the system forces
41:46such a declaration, do you understand?
41:49And I believe this declaration
41:50shouldn't be made, that everyone should
41:52experience what they bring.
41:55>> And with it. I once had a child like
41:58that, an incredibly wonderful one.
42:00>> Parents can't refuse. Listen, this
42:02incredibly wonderful girl came to me
42:09with a wonderful story about a child
42:11who was severely damaged in the first
42:13days of her life during heart surgery.
42:21This child was so damaged that standard
42:23medical doctors didn't predict any
42:24meaningful life for this little
42:26creature. It was unclear what to wish
42:31for this child, whether it would
42:33continue to live, or quite the opposite
42:35. The child surprised everyone; she was
42:41taken home, separated enough from the
42:43ventilator that she could exist
42:45peacefully in this home. She was
42:52astonishing in her contact, and I was
42:54amazed by what she did with her parents
42:56in just a few months of life. A great
43:03teacher, a soul who came to offer
43:05something, to experience something. The
43:10system, of course, rejects such
43:12children. In the era of proposed futile
43:16therapy, no one would even feed such a
43:18child. Apparently, this is going to
43:22happen soon, so I remind them that such
43:24situations also exist. However, for me,
43:31it's a reminder that our minds are
43:32unable to grasp the experience we come
43:34here for. And if we agree to not be
43:43framed, not be shouted at by the system
43:45, if we have the courage to say, even
43:46at the birth of a child, "I'll do it on
43:48my own terms, which Edyta Adamczewska
43:50and I strongly promote here," then the
43:52entire subsequent emanation of that
43:54personality has a different expression,
43:56right? However, if a child is
44:03immediately subjected to this cultural,
44:06systemic modification, this
44:11>> model of thinking,
44:13>> I would say it's a kind of amputation,
44:15you know, because these children lose
44:17their cognitive tools very early, right
44:19? They are damaged on a level we can't
44:25even predict, because if we gave them
44:27choice and freedom, everything could
44:29fall into place so that we could
44:30observe these children.
44:35>> Mr. Igor Witkowski speaks clearly of an
44:37epidemic of child suicide, and no one
44:39in the ministries or anywhere else is
44:41interested in it. Professor Bożena
44:46Kawicka, who is a frequent guest here
44:48at Strumyczek, is a suicidologist and
44:50is very interested in and works with
44:52young people who are currently
44:54demanding transition. There's a huge
45:01wave of children's needs related to
45:03psychiatric treatment and transitions.
45:09And I'm saying loudly that this is a
45:11signal that children demand respect,
45:13love, and attention to their needs. We,
45:21as a society, don't have time for that.
45:23We're not interested. It's
45:24>> good that you said that.
45:28>> We're separated from all the tools we
45:30should be giving these children instead
45:32of programming, right? Because we don't
45:36use them ourselves, so we have to fit
45:38them in. We buy a pink swaddle right
45:41away. If something doesn't fit, we'll
45:43trim it. If it fits, then okay, it's
45:45great that it fits. Now we'll program
45:48something else to fit too, right? And
45:51there are no naughty children because
45:53you give him a screen, he sits there in
45:55hypnosis, doesn't bother, doesn't run,
45:57doesn't throw things off, doesn't chase
45:59. You give him food, you know, catering
46:02. He plays here, bites there, plays
46:05with this, then, you know, sleeps. But
46:10he never has contact with adults on
46:12principle; they don't even program him
46:14anymore. He's already programmed from
46:18the screen. You know, there are little
46:20ones, he's already in a stroller, so he
46:22can do it with his finger so he can
46:24bleep, bleep, bleep, hear some sounds.
46:26I mean, think about what would happen.
46:28>> This is hypnosis,
46:30>> if we allowed these children the
46:38experience that children in natural
46:40cultures have the chance to experience,
46:42those living in the forest, those
46:43living in nomadic communities, right?
46:49It works completely differently there.
46:52Much more is the strange coincidence of
46:54shamans, right? These children see. Why
46:59did I bring this up now? Because in
47:03states of high deprivation, which can
47:11also be considered in prison, if we
47:13have control over our own spirit,
47:14because what you're talking about is
47:16probably because you already had
47:18control over fear and had control over
47:19low emotions. If we have such
47:26predispositions, or if we have already
47:28developed a system of such self-control
47:30and self-control, we are able to
47:32experience states of profound insight,
47:34such illumination. The word "
47:38illumination" has a completely
47:39different meaning now,
47:46>> but illumination is a cognitive method,
47:48and I remember that once, when
47:54>> I was friends with the youngest
47:56philosophy professor in Poland at the
47:57time, he, being a great admirer of
48:06Rudolf Steiner's work, often emphasized
48:08the importance of such recognition and
48:10thought that by sharing this knowledge
48:12he would simply intrigue someone.
48:18Unfortunately, at this point, what
48:20we've reached, the word "illumination"
48:22cannot be used, because it only brings
48:24to mind the
48:25>> Illuminati order, which manipulates the
48:27earth. See, in such a neat and elegant
48:32circle, we've arrived at the topic of
48:34cutting and cutting. Why am I talking
48:38about this? Because we can't stop
48:44fearing death without taking into
48:46account what I've said. I
48:48>> was just going to say what you're
48:49saying. We're still talking about death
48:51. This is death, this is life. These
48:55children in hypnosis, and even Christ
48:57probably called it death. This is the
49:00second death. He said the soul is
49:03immortal, but it continues to live in
49:05lethargy. It doesn't develop. This is
49:09the second death. It can't develop if
49:12it's always this way, always playing
49:14games, always stunned, always wanting
49:16to win, always losing. Right? Not those
49:19sideburns. My son had a friend with
49:22whom they used to go play certain games
49:24. You know, in America, this happens in
49:28Houston, Texas. They play a game where
49:33he, as a good cop, chases a bad
49:35gangster through the streets of New
49:37York. And the gangster escapes and
49:42raids. A woman with a stroller is
49:44walking down the street. He runs
49:46through a cafe, over people sitting
49:48there, he drives over people, over
49:50everything, but a good cop doesn't let
49:53him, he follows him, doing the same
49:55thing. I say, "That's not me, Batman
49:59Good." What kind of Batman am I? This
50:01one's also Batman. He's come after
50:03people. But he has to catch him at all
50:06costs, over dead bodies. That's what
50:09children learn subconsciously. If this
50:16guy later goes to the police like that,
50:18he's still in the game, and it's not
50:20just the Roman Observatory, which Roman
50:22invented, because when these movies and
50:24Spider-Man brain programming started, a
50:27dozen or so children around the world
50:29jumped out of windows to do the same
50:31thing as Spider-Man. They wore
50:38red-and-blue pajamas, capes, or towels
50:40because he had nothing. He created a
50:44window and flew away. My grandson in
50:47Israel came to me to ask where the
50:49spiders were. I say, spiders live in
50:53different places around the world. Why
50:56do you need that? They
50:58>> live here too. Marian recently barked
51:00at one.
51:00>> Yes. He wants a spider to bite him. I
51:03say, "Why?" Because I'll be Spiderman.
51:06I say, let him be you, not you him,
51:09because then he loses. No, he wants to
51:12be that. And children jumped out of
51:14windows. Well, in Israel, he could have
51:17jumped into the garden.
51:18>> See? The confusion of illusory worlds
51:21with a turning away from real worlds.
51:24From real worlds.
51:26>> And then he, he, is not mortal. Notice
51:29the good in, because there must always
51:31be something good in evil. So he is not
51:35mortal, because he goes, but he is kept
51:37in ignorance. This is the second death.
51:42He is unconscious. And our God, our
51:46life, wants us to be conscious,
51:48increasingly conscious. He gives us
51:51lessons. We are to be perfect like our
51:53Father in heaven.
51:55>> Do we have to live so that we don't die
51:57in life? Yes. Yes.
52:00>> We are to die freely. We are to learn
52:05to die so that we can continue living
52:07elegantly. We are to leave the body in
52:10a dance step. This always tells us good
52:14news. We are to learn to die, because
52:18this is life. Not that we're dying, and
52:23that's sad, such a good man, yet
52:26>> weepy, weepy people
52:27>> like my father,
52:28>> later a typical character. You know, my
52:32father was the first doctor in Israel
52:34in the desert. He didn't know. I think
52:36they'll send him to Tel Aviv, where
52:38people speak Polish. When he died, it
52:43turned out later that he had
52:45practically dried up in the desert, and
52:47my mother had dried up too, and his
52:54patients were people later from Morocco
52:56. The first white doctor, from Morocco,
53:02Algeria, and Baghdad, had patients from
53:05Iraq. These people, just like they came
53:09to Israel, were hypnotized into
53:11believing they were Jews because their
53:13grandfather told them so; otherwise,
53:15they would have thought they were
53:17themselves. Unless you suggest it, they
53:20don't know. You saw a child come out
53:23and have an Auswal and the most deejay.
53:26It's not like that. Or a Catholic, or
53:28something. And then the weepy people
53:32came. I came from Germany. I don't know
53:37what took me from Germany to Israel. My
53:40father had just become an acolyte two
53:42days earlier. I made it, and suddenly I
53:46hear this howling like the Indians.
53:51Like the Indians on the reservation,
53:53when I was in America, they would howl,
53:55and then the weeping ones would come,
53:57howling, but the good doctor was there.
54:03He treated us, our children, and they
54:05can get into such a sad state that they
54:07actually cry later.
54:11>> I mean, Roman, you wouldn't want them
54:13crying like that after you, would you?
54:15>> I'm leaving too. When we go
54:19>> somewhere, the joy is supposed to be
54:22>> like dancing,
54:23>> we've learned something, we've helped
54:25others, and we're going home.
54:29>> Roman, death is a stepping stone in
54:31real life,
54:34>> and what we're talking about here,
54:36indirectly, is real death, this
54:38spiritual death. You know, mystics talk
54:42about this, especially those who are
54:49grounded in Sufi philosophy, you know,
54:51they say that spirit, or the subtle
54:58realm, and matter are two separate
54:59things. And to smoothly traverse the
55:05path of the spirit, you have to watch
55:06over your soul so it doesn't get
55:08corrupted, right? Yes. If this soul,
55:13because this soul is like a portal. And
55:19you know, as you go forward, you take
55:20all the good events and wonderful
55:22experiences and good you've done to
55:23others with you through this portal.
55:28But
55:31>> all that crap, excuse me, will stay
55:33here. And if you don't go through
55:37because you weren't near the portal,
55:39you'll stay here with this crap. So I
55:45would suggest—pardon the pun—not
55:47dying while you're alive, but focusing
55:49on real life, focusing on crossing the
55:52boundaries of worlds, because it's
55:59>> possible, and this experience obviously
56:01doesn't involve matter, but we need a
56:02material anchor for that, one that has
56:04some connection to what we have inside
56:06here. It's not wrong that we live in a
56:11body,
56:12>> but we can do, for example, this
56:14exercise as part of meditation. How
56:16would I like to live? How would I like
56:23to live in 100 years? Where in 1,000
56:29years, in a million years on another
56:31planet, or perhaps without a planet? Or
56:35perhaps in infinity? Or maybe I'll be
56:38pure spirit again? I'll be just love. I
56:43am love that flows in infinity. Such
56:46meditations can also be done. It
56:48doesn't have to be. I think to myself,
56:51in 10 years I'll be 80, but at least
56:53I'll be healthy and still running to
56:55the bathroom, and my prostate won't
56:57malfunction. That's not the future.
57:04It's about how I'll live, where I might
57:06live among beautiful beings and I won't
57:08want to return to the plane of matter
57:10at all, because I won't have any reason
57:12to. But it's possible that there will
57:18be certain spirits who want someone to
57:20help them, and then this chakra will
57:22move with mercy within me. I'll see who
57:29still needs it, whom I can help, and as
57:31an act of mercy, what Christ called
57:33grace, you are saved. Because he came
57:37here by grace. No one called him here,
57:40nor asked for him, nor did he have to
57:42come here because he wasn't burdened by
57:44karma. He learned that things are weak
57:48on this planet, they are, but that
57:50there are those who need a little more
57:52energy and insight into eternal life.
57:57He left knowing he would end up with
57:58his body on a hanger, but he arrived
58:01>> in an uncomfortable position. A
58:03>> very bad position. And but this only
58:08happens once. Christ didn't reincarnate
58:11. He came and left. It was an
58:16incarnation by grace, by mercy. We're
58:20returning everything else. It's not bad
58:23to live in the body for a few years
58:24either. Here, it could be 60, 100 years
58:28, even.
58:29>> But maybe we should live this way, so
58:31that we live elegantly,
58:33>> so that we don't die in a miserable way
58:35, because if we don't live elegantly,
58:37you know what?
58:39>> Look how that cheapskate has burdened
58:41himself now. Um, you know, in my
58:45operatic career, I experienced the
58:47enormous honor of performing the lead
58:49role in the Polish premiere of Francis
58:51Pulanek's dialogues of the Carmelites.
58:58These are lyrical scenes, and the main
59:00character, Blanż, experiences states
59:02between schizophrenia and martyrdom. I
59:06was intrigued by this character. I
59:10prepared my own voice, as it should be
59:12sung by a soprano endowed with slightly
59:14different qualities, a lighter, more
59:16delicate voice. I really wanted to sing
59:20Blanż. Later, I sang a different part
59:23in this opera. However, I succeeded
59:29then, because by awakening certain
59:31processes within ourselves to build a
59:32given role, we enter an energetic space
59:35that is close to the character's
59:36experiences, if we do it well, right?
59:42>> You empathize.
59:43>> Listen, because this is very
59:45interesting. As Blanż, I end my life
59:49by choosing martyrdom on the guillotine
59:51. Blanż runs to the guillotine,
59:56choosing death on her own, even though
59:58she doesn't have to, along with her
59:59sisters from the order. I'm not
1:00:04referring here to religiosity,
1:00:06Catholicism, or the figure of some
1:00:08messianic self-sacrifice. Rather, I'm
1:00:16talking about the fact that while
1:00:18preparing for this performance, I very
1:00:19carefully imagined the process of dying
1:00:21well, because that figure of dying well
1:00:23, also because of the scenes with the
1:00:25old prioress, is elevated to the status
1:00:27of high art and the fact that dying
1:00:29well, or passing well, is a kind of
1:00:31gift. And George Gurdjieff, who had
1:00:41many students in Europe, is of course
1:00:43credited, whether rightly or not, with
1:00:45animating World War II thanks to the
1:00:47education he provided to both Stalin
1:00:49and Hitler. Listen, there's no
1:00:54definitive evidence here, but that's
1:00:56the assumption. Gurdjieff said that you
1:01:01can work out anything in your life with
1:01:03this projection, this imagination. He
1:01:09taught his students to imagine their
1:01:11own death, this moment of transition.
1:01:17>> He told them to sit and practice, every
1:01:19day imagining how they would pass and
1:01:21where. Mhm.
1:01:27>> Um, this is interesting, uh, from my
1:01:29perspective, which is why I mentioned
1:01:31it in the same breath as talking about
1:01:33the role of blanch, because the actor
1:01:35has the opportunity to do this, and his
1:01:37soul, uh, receives such inspiring
1:01:39stimulations, his spirit, I should say,
1:01:41that allow him to stay close to that
1:01:43soul for a long time. And such a
1:01:49systemically limited person, who has
1:01:51been programmed, who sits in this
1:01:52program and who doesn't want to move
1:01:54because he prefers to stare at his
1:01:56smartphone or tablet,
1:01:59>> doesn't experience such images at all.
1:02:01>> I think I'll allow myself to listen to
1:02:03a program about Gurdjieff, because he's
1:02:05an incredibly interesting figure. The
1:02:07more I read, the more inspiration I
1:02:09have.
1:02:09>> And his Ouspensky ears. Yes, it
1:02:12>> is. Incredible, an incredible method of
1:02:15awakening the body's energy centers,
1:02:17which in turn allow us to experience
1:02:19bardo states, my dears. And here's the
1:02:25connection that bears fruit, because
1:02:26bardo is a borderline state. So this
1:02:30connection is what we're after, if we
1:02:32experience this connection, because you
1:02:34said so about this exercise,
1:02:36>> right? Listen, it drives away all fear
1:02:39of death, because when you do this to
1:02:41yourself, or for example, when I do it
1:02:43to myself, I often leave my body. By
1:02:47practicing this, I know 100%that I
1:02:49won't be afraid, and the fact that I'm
1:02:51not afraid doesn't
1:02:54>> deprive the system of a tool to abuse
1:02:56me. And today's broadcast aims to say
1:03:03that physical death is just a
1:03:05transition. Yes, it's a portal.
1:03:10>> And what we should be talking about,
1:03:12thinking about, and what we should be
1:03:13—I don't want to use the word "fight,
1:03:15" but what we should be fighting for.
1:03:19Okay, so be it, this is a good
1:03:21spiritual life. A good spiritual life.
1:03:25Yes. Good,
1:03:28>> broad functional awareness. Yes, that
1:03:32means your
1:03:33>> balance.
1:03:34>> Exactly. Say a few words about balance
1:03:37and about choices in life.
1:03:40>> You're talking about being
1:03:43>> balanced, which means we know the
1:03:45balance. It's not like we're going to
1:03:50live in some other dream now, but we're
1:03:52going to live consciously. That's
1:03:56exactly what it is. And we'll
1:03:59consciously reach the end of this life
1:04:01on matter and in the body, and in
1:04:03matter, we'll strip ourselves of this
1:04:05matter, and we won't take anything with
1:04:07us. We go, we see the light, we enter
1:04:13the light. Everyone who's read about it
1:04:16will soon say
1:04:16>> not to go there, because they said it
1:04:18was there, because that's where they
1:04:20catch souls.
1:04:20>> They wait, they catch souls. Those
1:04:24little gray things. Yes, we've all
1:04:27heard it many times.
1:04:30>> Yes, if someone catches someone there,
1:04:32it's only equal to equal, like to like.
1:04:37For example, if some evil spirits lurk
1:04:40there, then I'm useless to them and
1:04:42you're
1:04:45>> not fit to be minced.
1:04:47>> However, no one has to kidnap me if
1:04:49they are positive beings, because I
1:04:51willingly enter there. Each of us will
1:04:57go to the level of consciousness from
1:04:59which we came, or even a floor above.
1:05:03But everyone who has seen the film, for
1:05:05example, this is shown, goes. This is
1:05:08not a Hollywood production, Our House.
1:05:11This is a Brazilian film, our home, and
1:05:14that's where they show people dying,
1:05:16leaving their bodies. There's a doctor
1:05:19who still believes he's a doctor.
1:05:23There's a girl who had a fiancé and
1:05:25left, but she's still jealous,
1:05:27wondering if he has another woman. For
1:05:30example, she wants to come back, and so
1:05:33on. Look at our home at the CDA, too.
1:05:42And when we leave our bodies, we're no
1:05:45longer professors, doctors, prosecutors
1:05:48, butchers, accountants, priors, and so
1:05:50on, but ourselves. And the moment I
1:05:59leave, watch the soul leaving the body
1:06:01because it has to. It's a certainty
1:06:05that each of us will leave naturally.
1:06:08Either they'll help us, or they already
1:06:11have 5G, 6G, and we'll be able to throw
1:06:13people out.
1:06:14>> Let's say "ghost" so we don't confuse
1:06:16them. The spirit leaves the body. The
1:06:18>> spirit leaves. Yes. The spirit leaves
1:06:21the body. It leaves the body. Now, on
1:06:23the other side, he sees—I call it the
1:06:26other side—it's here. We're not alone
1:06:29here either. There are plenty of beings
1:06:31around us. We don't see them. They see
1:06:33us. Who are these beings? These are our
1:06:38teachers, members of our cosmic
1:06:40families. Why don't we see them?
1:06:44Because if you look, for example, at a
1:06:47fan slowly spinning, you see a fan. The
1:06:50faster it spins, the faster it spins,
1:06:52until finally you see nothing. If you
1:06:55don't point a finger at it, you no
1:06:56longer feel it. Their bodies vibrate so
1:06:59quickly that they are transparent to us
1:07:01. Like us, who they are, is us. When we
1:07:06leave the body, others won't see us.
1:07:10There's simply no magic here. No magic.
1:07:15That's how it is. It's good. If, say, a
1:07:18spirit leaves the body and sees the
1:07:24world there now, there are certain
1:07:26souls around it waiting for it and
1:07:28saying, "So, Karol, what's next?" Well,
1:07:33I don't know, for now I'm out of the
1:07:35body. You don't know, how you said
1:07:38you're the vicar of God's son on earth.
1:07:44We believed, we gave, they sent you
1:07:46money, we lived in miserable conditions
1:07:48, you lived in a palace and said you
1:07:50would lead us further. So, we want to
1:07:55go. Where, where will you lead us? I
1:07:57don't know where I'm supposed to go on
1:07:59my own. What do you want from me? Well,
1:08:01we do, because you told us, so it's
1:08:03better not to promise something we
1:08:05can't fulfill. And this applies not
1:08:12only to Karol, but to other Karols in
1:08:15various religions, who dressed in
1:08:17various robes: rabbis, mahdis, all
1:08:20those, you know, muftis, and so on.
1:08:26They dressed and hypnotized and
1:08:28perpetuated this hypnosis from the
1:08:30cradle, grandfather, grandmother, and
1:08:32so on. You are a Jew, you are a Pole,
1:08:37you are, you are not, this and that,
1:08:39until he leaves his body. And now he's
1:08:43returned to the truth. If you go on
1:08:45vacation somewhere, you read about what
1:08:48it's like there, what the conditions
1:08:50are like, the heat, the cold, and so on
1:08:52, you find what you saw on postcards on
1:08:55the internet, you saw, you read, right,
1:08:57in those pamphlets about what it's like
1:08:59in Polynesia, and so on. When we leave
1:09:03the body, you're not, you didn't read,
1:09:05there's no death, you didn't care, and
1:09:07what happens after death doesn't
1:09:09concern you. I, who live here now, like
1:09:17it, and you burden yourself well, but
1:09:19think that now, for example, these
1:09:21people who have a certain idea and are
1:09:24implementing it over the dead bodies—
1:09:26those dead bodies remain here, but the
1:09:28spirits have emerged from there and
1:09:30will tell him; if not Karol, then they
1:09:32will tell him: "Listen, Adolf, you
1:09:35threw us out of our bodies." PR, we
1:09:42couldn't continue to develop
1:09:44spiritually because of you. For now, it
1:09:48worked. Well, now, for example, we
1:09:50don't want to forgive you for that.
1:09:57Stalin, who killed more Russians than
1:09:59Adolf did while in Russia. Pol, who
1:10:04murdered his own people. General Franco
1:10:09, who murdered his own people. It
1:10:13worked well.
1:10:14>> Well, power is the great dopamine
1:10:16original sin.
1:10:19>> Once you get a kick out of it, it's not
1:10:21enough anymore.
1:10:22>> And once you kill someone, suddenly you
1:10:25see, it's not so terrible.
1:10:27>> And a few million more, no problem.
1:10:30That's a big problem, because now
1:10:32you're still alive. But you're immortal
1:10:37, you no longer have a body, you can't
1:10:39fix anything on the material plane
1:10:41without a body. Well, you need a body
1:10:46for that. On the other side, you'd be
1:10:48—you don't know what happened to you.
1:10:52For now, you don't accept that you're
1:10:54dead; later, you accept that you're
1:10:56dead. You don't know what to do. You're
1:11:01prepared for life outside your body,
1:11:03and besides, you don't like being
1:11:05outside your body, but no one asks your
1:11:07opinion, just as you didn't ask anyone
1:11:09whether it's cool to shoot him or not.
1:11:17And now there are ghosts teaching us—
1:11:19teachers waiting until that ghost can't
1:11:21stand itself and wants to come out and
1:11:23ask for help. Right? Just as the diver
1:11:29feels he can't stand the pressure any
1:11:31longer, he asks for help. These ghosts
1:11:34come. He doesn't know they're ghosts.
1:11:36He thinks he's hallucinating. After all
1:11:38, there are no ghosts, no deaths, and
1:11:40suddenly they're here. What can we do
1:11:43for you? Well, he wants to return to
1:11:46Earth, that's for sure. Unfortunately,
1:11:49he can't go to Earth. He can't go to
1:11:55Earth because he has to fix what he's
1:11:57broken within himself, forgive himself
1:11:59for burdening himself, bring you to a
1:12:01state of consciousness that will make
1:12:03him regret it. Then, after forgiving
1:12:10himself and repenting, he goes to him
1:12:12and says, "I'm sorry, I really didn't
1:12:14know what I was doing, forgive me."
1:12:18Some of them will forgive him because
1:12:20they've already worked on forgiveness
1:12:22in their bodies, and some with him: "
1:12:24Absolutely not, Adol, absolutely not
1:12:27Stalin, absolutely not." So what's
1:12:31happening now? Those spirits who don't
1:12:35want to forgive him have stalled their
1:12:37development until they can no longer
1:12:39forgive themselves for not being able
1:12:40to forgive. This soul is ready to
1:12:45return and repair what can still be
1:12:47repaired and reincarnate him. Probably
1:12:52one of these unforgivable souls will
1:12:53take him into the family. Sometimes,
1:12:57you know, an older brother beats a
1:12:59younger brother, sometimes a sister
1:13:01beats a sister. He abuses them, and so
1:13:05on, and so on, but as long as they're
1:13:07not brothers or sisters—that might be
1:13:10even better. There are spirits who will
1:13:14take him, for example, so that the one
1:13:17who was a sadist, a sadomasochist, and
1:13:19abused others will now be their own
1:13:21breast, in a female body, forced to
1:13:27feed the one who doesn't want to
1:13:29forgive him, or vice versa, because
1:13:31only a mother's Love is selfless. We're
1:13:35talking about true Love, not about
1:13:37those women who don't want to, got into
1:13:39trouble, and threw them in the trash.
1:13:41We're not talking about naturally
1:13:43sentient spiritual beings and so on,
1:13:45are we? Even with taking out the trash
1:13:49or dropping it off at the hospital,
1:13:51it's not like that. Well, I've already
1:13:53gotten rid of it, I'm going back to the
1:13:55neighbor's because he's a nice guy.
1:13:57It's not like that. She once called
1:14:00that soul. And that soul is angry with
1:14:03her for throwing it out. Why did you
1:14:07call me and slam the door in my face?
1:14:12So you have to think everything through
1:14:13. Notice that Christ spoke at a certain
1:14:17point for every unnecessary word. You
1:14:19will answer. Before the word, there is
1:14:21always an unnecessary thought. Before
1:14:23the thought, there is an unnecessary
1:14:24feeling. An unnecessary feeling always
1:14:27comes from the ego, not from divinity.
1:14:30Oh, a beautiful unnecessary feeling
1:14:33always comes from the ego, not from
1:14:35divinity.
1:14:37>> No, divinity is selfless.
1:14:40>> Good, the fear of death is selfless.
1:14:43I'm not saying karma gave 5 dollars. No
1:14:46, it's not like that. It has to be
1:14:49selfless. Brotherly love is selfless.
1:14:53Like, for example, Christ spoke the
1:14:55truth, do good to those who have sinned
1:14:57. This isn't what's happening in the
1:15:01Middle East or what's happening here
1:15:02across the border. They're just
1:15:05supposed to do good for themselves.
1:15:06Admittedly, they were terrorists, they
1:15:08killed our children. Stop it already.
1:15:11Leave them alone, we forgive you. No,
1:15:15we won't forgive you. No. So what will
1:15:19happen? We'll teach our children and
1:15:21great-grandchildren. They're the ones
1:15:25who are already living there, who
1:15:26remember what they did to us and my
1:15:28grandparents. Just like I have
1:15:32information from my childhood that my
1:15:34grandparents on my mother's side were
1:15:36murdered by Ukrainians, but not the
1:15:38entire Ukrainian nation came, only
1:15:40Ukrainians killed my grandparents,
1:15:43>> a few specific ghosts
1:15:45>> that I never saw with my own eyes. I
1:15:49only heard something like that when I
1:15:50was a child. I heard that my
1:15:56grandfather had a cook in their house
1:15:58or something, and she had a son, and my
1:16:00grandfather paid his school fees—
1:16:02something like that—I remember to
1:16:04this day and later, that he went to
1:16:06school and was a human being. And later
1:16:15she told her brothers, the boy's mother
1:16:17, that she saw where Grandma hid some
1:16:20rings and coins, because Grandpa had
1:16:22canvas, he had a canvas trade, he
1:16:24supplied half of Ukraine and half of
1:16:26Poland, all of Galicia. Today, I didn't
1:16:32have to struggle with life; he
1:16:34inherited it, from Grandpa. I don't
1:16:38struggle, but one thing is certain. She
1:16:41said she saw where they came, killed
1:16:43them, took it. And then, apparently,
1:16:48she later complained that they made a
1:16:50mistake, because they gagged and beat
1:16:52her to make her tell them where she hid
1:16:54the gold. And she, too, because they
1:16:58weren't professionals. They should have
1:17:01found the gold first, and then got that
1:17:03old woman out. Yes. Listen, to get back
1:17:07on track, this is death.
1:17:15>> We have, listen, we have a mission here
1:17:17too, to say that it's worth making fun
1:17:19of this death; then it functions within
1:17:21us as a completely different program,
1:17:24right? It
1:17:28>> can be done. It's
1:17:30>> worth it,
1:17:31>> because it's a state of consciousness.
1:17:33>> Don't be afraid. Anyway, listen,
1:17:35>> don't
1:17:36>> experience, go through bardo states,
1:17:38explore what exists between dimensions.
1:17:42There are various ways to do this. You
1:17:45can even do it comfortably in prison,
1:17:49right? Even without prison. I started
1:17:54without prison. I started my career
1:17:59with something called autogenic
1:18:01training, according to Dr. Szulc. Yes.
1:18:07I recommend it, and it has something to
1:18:09do with what I said before: that in
1:18:11meditation, we imagine that we want to
1:18:18live in a world where there are
1:18:19beautiful beings who feel what we feel,
1:18:21who think like us, with whom we will
1:18:23create beautiful worlds together. Our
1:18:29program is to create beautiful worlds
1:18:31in infinity with God the Father, and
1:18:34that is
1:18:36>> our goal there. That is our goal.
1:18:38>> Yes. That is why we were created. Not
1:18:40to fight battles, wars, fighting for
1:18:43happiness, peace, and joy. We are not
1:18:45meant to live that way. We have God
1:18:48within us, and we are his instruments,
1:18:50and in his image, together with God, we
1:18:53create beautiful galaxies, beautiful
1:18:55states of consciousness, and so on and
1:18:57so forth. Each of us, whatever state of
1:19:01consciousness we are in now, will go to
1:19:03this paradise, where we will continue
1:19:05to develop
1:19:07>> and start over from the level we left
1:19:09off. That's right.
1:19:11>> Let's take care of this level, listen.
1:19:13>> Yes. Let's
1:19:14>> not be afraid of this transition
1:19:15constantly. Let's multiply the joy of
1:19:20life and let's not fall into it. Let's
1:19:24be happy that
1:19:25>> we give,
1:19:26>> that we give, not only that we take,
1:19:29>> and let's not fall into the realm of
1:19:31fear. Roman, I think we should close
1:19:34this topic today, because you already
1:19:36know, it's a fertile topic and there's
1:19:38so much to say here and so many paths
1:19:40to follow. Um, I'm grateful for...I
1:19:44thank you
1:19:46>> for the conversation.
1:19:47>> So what? And see you at the next
1:19:49observatory, Roman.
1:19:51>> Thank you for being with us. It was
1:19:53>> wonderful with you. Feel the spirit.

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