CNS 2023: Daniel Schacter, PhD, "On the Emergence of Cognitive Neuroscience: Memory Research ..." — Transcript
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- 0:02good afternoon everyone and welcome to
- 0:05this the to CNS at 30. our special
- 0:10Symposium to commemorate the society's
- 0:1330th anniversary
- 0:15my name is Patty reuter Lorenz and along
- 0:17with my Symposium co-organizer Ron
- 0:20Mangan we've enjoyed supporting and
- 0:23participating in CNS since its founding
- 0:26for many of us Old-Timers it's hard to
- 0:29believe that it's really already been 30
- 0:31years
- 0:33but no matter how old they make you feel
- 0:35anniversaries are a time to celebrate
- 0:38so we hope you'll be joining us for
- 0:40tonight's dance party and for the
- 0:42special appearance of Pavlov's dogs
- 0:46and anniversary is also an occasion to
- 0:48take stock of where we've come from
- 0:50where we are now and where we might be
- 0:53headed
- 0:54which is the spirit of today's symposium
- 0:57but first
- 0:59even though we're running a little
- 1:00behind I want to take a little trip with
- 1:02you down memory lane
- 1:04I'm sure to many of you cognitive
- 1:07Neuroscience seems like such an
- 1:08essential discipline that it's hard to
- 1:10imagine
- 1:11when it didn't exist
- 1:13to the contrary many of us remember when
- 1:16the science that we were doing didn't
- 1:18have a name
- 1:20the birth of cognitive Neuroscience
- 1:22changed all of that
- 1:23an interdisciplinary field uniting
- 1:27psychology the neurosciences computation
- 1:30and even philosophy with the shared goal
- 1:33of understanding how the human mind
- 1:34works
- 1:36indeed the founding of cognitive
- 1:38Neuroscience was intentional and
- 1:40carefully executed
- 1:42its name arose in the late 1970s in that
- 1:46legendary cab ride on the Upper East
- 1:48Side shared by George Miller and Mike
- 1:50zanega
- 1:52then came several major initiatives
- 1:54launched by Visionary leaders including
- 1:56Mike kazanaga Mike Posner Steve coslin
- 1:59and others with the generous support of
- 2:01the Sloan McDonald s James S McDonnell
- 2:05foundation and the Pew Foundation
- 2:07these initiatives included a small
- 2:09grants program for individual
- 2:11investigators and funded centers for
- 2:14cognitive neuroscience at universities
- 2:15and institutions across the U.S Canada
- 2:18and Europe
- 2:20another crucial element was establishing
- 2:23a dedicated publication venue the
- 2:25Journal of cognitive neuroscience
- 2:28the first issue was published in 1989
- 2:31and 35 volumes later the Journal of
- 2:34cognitive Neuroscience continues to be
- 2:35our Fields Flagship Journal
- 2:37thanks to our excellent science
- 2:40our long-standing partnership with MIT
- 2:43press and the leadership of the founding
- 2:45editor Mike kazanaga followed by Mark di
- 2:48Esposito who served for 17 years and the
- 2:52journal's newest editor Brad Postell
- 2:56but arguably one of the most crucial
- 2:59elements of the fields founding was
- 3:01brain camp
- 3:03this fabulous intensive two-week summer
- 3:05Institute has educated generations of
- 3:09cognitive and neuroscientists fostered
- 3:11lifelong friendships and spawned many
- 3:14new collaborations
- 3:16first known as the McDonald's summer
- 3:18Institute in cognitive Neuroscience the
- 3:20inaugural meeting took place at Harvard
- 3:22in 1988.
- 3:23then Mike kazanaga turned the summer
- 3:26Institute into the iconic program it has
- 3:28become holding it at Dartmouth College
- 3:30UC Davis and then Santa Barbara
- 3:33of course every five years there's been
- 3:35the Tahoe summer Institute which
- 3:37produced the many volumes of the
- 3:39cognitive neurosciences
- 3:41tremendous thanks to the McDonald Pew
- 3:43and cowboy foundations and especially
- 3:45NIMH and Nida for their generous Support
- 3:48over the many years
- 3:49but nevertheless it took only a few
- 3:52insta Institute cohorts to realize the
- 3:55overwhelming enthusiasm for the new
- 3:57field of cognitive neuroscience
- 3:59the need for a professional organization
- 4:01and annual meeting were undeniable
- 4:05and with that realization the cognitive
- 4:07Neuroscience Society was born our first
- 4:10meeting was held in 1994 at the Fairmont
- 4:12Hotel here in San Francisco a venue that
- 4:15we rapidly outgrew
- 4:17and here we are 30 meetings later
- 4:19running late but still growing strong
- 4:23of course the society is our membership
- 4:25and we're grateful for your attendance
- 4:28for your sharing your best research and
- 4:30for making the new discoveries that move
- 4:31our field forward
- 4:33we also owe a debt of gratitude to Keith
- 4:36Kate treathaway Tara Miller and her team
- 4:39and the way the meetings have been
- 4:41organized for many years our program
- 4:44committee for this year's Symposium the
- 4:47Symposium committee the poster and
- 4:49awards committees just thank you for for
- 4:51your support
- 4:53so now let's turn to our symposium
- 4:57this Symposium will reflect on our
- 4:59scientific Roots highlight the state of
- 5:01the art of cognitive Neuroscience
- 5:02research and forecast some future
- 5:05directions for our field
- 5:07we're very fortunate today to have some
- 5:09of the of our own Fields luminaries
- 5:11speaking with us Dan schachter and
- 5:14Marlene Berman have each been recognized
- 5:16by the society's Fred cavlie award for
- 5:18distinguished career contributions in
- 5:20cognitive neuroscience
- 5:23and Nicholas Turk Brown and Adriana
- 5:25Galvin have each been recognized for
- 5:27their outstanding early career
- 5:29contributions to cognitive Neuroscience
- 5:31with the young investigators award we're
- 5:33grateful and honored that they've agreed
- 5:35to talk about their research and to
- 5:37share their perspectives on the fields
- 5:39okay so our first talk is going to be
- 5:42given by Dan schachter the William R
- 5:45King Junior professor at Harvard
- 5:49among many other contributions in
- 5:51accolades Dan is a member of the
- 5:53National Academy of Sciences was on the
- 5:55CNS founding committee and this has been
- 5:58a long-standing long time member of the
- 6:00governing board and the title of this
- 6:02talk which will be up soon is on the
- 6:05emergence of cognitive Neuroscience mem
- 6:07on the emergence of cognitive
- 6:09neuroscience
- 6:11memory research as a case study
- 6:19[Applause]
- 6:23all right thank you Patty for
- 6:26inviting me to participate in this very
- 6:28timely important Symposium it is hard to
- 6:32believe it's been 30 years I was at that
- 6:34first meeting and it is mind-boggling to
- 6:37think that we're celebrating a 30th
- 6:40Anniversary I guess not as mind-boggling
- 6:42to be struggling with PowerPoint still
- 6:4430 years on
- 6:46uh it does happen so what I'm going to
- 6:49do today is talk a little bit I'm I'm
- 6:51very much part of the past part of this
- 6:53Symposium I'm going to give a very
- 6:55condensed historical uh overview of some
- 6:59developments in memory research that I
- 7:01think reflect more broadly on the
- 7:02emergence of cognitive Neuroscience as a
- 7:05field and I'm using memory research as a
- 7:07case study in the title
- 7:10um I'll be talking about some work I've
- 7:12been involved in and also more broadly
- 7:15about other other kinds of work but I
- 7:18think more talk about the history of
- 7:20memory research we need to at least
- 7:22briefly go all the way back to the 1880s
- 7:25that constituted a critical decade in
- 7:28the history of memory research everybody
- 7:30knows about Herman ebbinghaus and his
- 7:34studies of himself back in 1885 the
- 7:38groundbreaking volume of memory that
- 7:40title memory that contained the first
- 7:42systematic experimental analysis all
- 7:45kinds of interesting find things the
- 7:46forgetting curve and so forth so that
- 7:49was kind of what we might in retrospect
- 7:50call a cognitive experimental cognitive
- 7:53behavioral approach
- 7:56possibly less well known to some is that
- 7:58in that same decade and that's why I
- 8:00think it was such a critical decade
- 8:02Theodore rebeau the French psychologist
- 8:05published three years before ebbinghaus
- 8:08his volume on diseases of memory which
- 8:10brought together as kind of a compendium
- 8:13of all the clinical cases of memory
- 8:16disorders following brain damage that he
- 8:18was able to pull together in the
- 8:20literature Not only was it a compendium
- 8:22of cases he also articulated I thought
- 8:25in a very clear way and in a way that
- 8:28foretold later developments how studying
- 8:30memory breakdowns after brain damage
- 8:32could inform basic understanding of
- 8:34normal memory function so he said if in
- 8:37the normal condition of the organism the
- 8:40different forms of memory are
- 8:41independent then it's natural that if in
- 8:45a morbid state it is brain damage one
- 8:47disappears the other should remain
- 8:49intact kind of the logic of
- 8:51neuropsychological inference that were
- 8:53all familiar with that's driven a lot of
- 8:57a lot of work in our field and and Robo
- 9:00had it back in 1882.
- 9:03however uh if you track what happened
- 9:06after these two uh groundbreaking
- 9:08developments in the 1880s with very few
- 9:12exceptions I would argue having studied
- 9:15this somewhat that the experimental
- 9:16cognitive approach pioneered by
- 9:18ebbinghaus and the Brain oriented
- 9:20neuropsychological approach uh pioneered
- 9:22by semen proceeded largely on Parallel
- 9:25tracks and there were there was a
- 9:27literature in both areas fairly
- 9:28substantial a lot of it in German but
- 9:30they preceded largely in parallel tracks
- 9:33I'll say one exception comes from the
- 9:36work of someone who I've written about
- 9:38quite a bit a German biologist by the
- 9:41name of Richard semen who published two
- 9:44books in 1904 and 1909 where he proposed
- 9:47the notion of the engram as a biological
- 9:50substrate of memory and tried in these
- 9:53books to link mnemonic phenomena at
- 9:56psychological and biological levels
- 10:01Simmons work was largely on recognize
- 10:04for decades after after that work was
- 10:07published more recently he has come into
- 10:09the recognition that I think he deserves
- 10:12uh Sheena Jocelyn and her colleagues
- 10:15published a really nice article Journal
- 10:17of Neuroscience 2014 that they call
- 10:20Heroes of the engram where they mention
- 10:22uh they mentioned salmon as well as some
- 10:26other people who who I have to at least
- 10:28mention by name in a talk like this have
- 10:31Penfield Lashley James McConnell Richard
- 10:34Thompson I won't have time to say more
- 10:36about them but I do want to say more
- 10:38about another one of the heroes of the
- 10:40engram in this Jocelyn and all article
- 10:44and that of course is the uh amazing
- 10:48Brenda Milner still going strong at 104
- 10:51years of age turning 105 in July I
- 10:54believe we all know about her pioneering
- 10:57work with Scoville on the patient hm and
- 11:01characterizing a novel than novel
- 11:04amnesic deficit after medial temporal
- 11:07lobe renewable removal and I would argue
- 11:10that this is one of the one of two
- 11:12developments in the 1950s that propelled
- 11:15the subsequent development of cognitive
- 11:17Neuroscience the other one we heard
- 11:20about the famous taxi ride in George
- 11:22Miller I would go back to Miller's Magic
- 11:24Number 2 7 plus or minus two paper which
- 11:28was focused on short-term memory and led
- 11:31to uh you know a dramatic explosion of
- 11:34research on in the cognitive psychology
- 11:36of short-term memory but I would also
- 11:39try to argue that with only a few
- 11:41exceptions and there were exceptions
- 11:43particularly in work on the relationship
- 11:45between short-term and long-term memory
- 11:47but with very few exceptions cognitive
- 11:49and neuropsychological or
- 11:51neuroscientific approaches to memory
- 11:53proceeded largely in parallel for most
- 11:56of the next 25 years
- 11:58okay now I want to move up to October
- 12:001971 9 and talk about a conference that
- 12:04probably relatively few people here know
- 12:07about some of you may know about it it
- 12:09was organized by the late Laird Cermak
- 12:12who was of course a neuropsychologist at
- 12:15the Boston VA Hospital published a lot
- 12:18of important work uh on characterizing
- 12:21the amnesic syndrome and he organized a
- 12:24conference on human memory and Amnesia
- 12:26at the beautiful Lake Maureen in Vermont
- 12:28in an attempt to build Bridges between
- 12:31cognitive psychology and neuropsychology
- 12:34Neuroscience slash approaches to memory
- 12:37and that conference had a lot of
- 12:41luminaries in the field sort of a who's
- 12:44who list of both cognitive psychologists
- 12:47and neuropsychology and Neuroscience
- 12:49with two exceptions I put a yellow
- 12:50asterisk next to the names of Neil Cohn
- 12:53and myself we were lowly graduate
- 12:55students at the time not luminaries uh
- 12:59and we were brought to this conference
- 13:00fortunately by our advisors Neil Cohn by
- 13:03Larry Squire Myself by Engel tolving and
- 13:07so we got to sit in with all these big
- 13:09names and it was a it was an amazing
- 13:11conference a lot of discussion and
- 13:14interchange not only of specific
- 13:15phenomena but how could we move the
- 13:18field forward in a way that increased
- 13:20interaction between the cognitive
- 13:22psychologists and the neuropsychologists
- 13:24and neuroscientists alert Cermak asked
- 13:27us to write book chapters there was a
- 13:29book some of you may know it edited
- 13:30volume human memory and Amnesia came out
- 13:33in 1982 and I'll just quote from Laird's
- 13:37preface which I I think was uh again a
- 13:40prophetic he said there during the
- 13:42height of New England's annual foliage
- 13:44demonstration across fertilization was
- 13:46begun that promised to eventuate in as
- 13:49bright a future of interdiscipline
- 13:51interaction as the environment itself
- 13:55and I think Laird was largely uh going
- 13:58to be correct there Lair didn't mention
- 14:00the golf match in which I took on him
- 14:02and Bill tolving and Mars moskovich and
- 14:05beat them all on their best ball
- 14:08and then endl insisted that we go out
- 14:10the next day and then I give them one
- 14:12stroke on their best ball because it
- 14:14wasn't fair and uh they they We we
- 14:17played to a draw that day uh in any case
- 14:20going forward uh the topic of the
- 14:23sociable forms of memory was one of the
- 14:25main focal points of discussion at the
- 14:27conference
- 14:28and it subsequently became an issue of
- 14:31intense common interest that generated a
- 14:33lot of crosstalk among cognitive
- 14:35psychologists neuropsychologists and
- 14:36Neuroscience and I would argue this was
- 14:38very important in developing a cognitive
- 14:41Neuroscience of memory now this focus on
- 14:43dissociable forms of memory by 1979 was
- 14:47not novel we already knew for example
- 14:49from the work of Sue corkin with hm with
- 14:52Brenda Milner some of it that hm despite
- 14:56his severe
- 14:57deficit in Remembering his experiences
- 15:00could nonetheless show normal
- 15:02acquisition of motor skills what was
- 15:04this was this some Oddity of motor skill
- 15:06learning or something broader we also
- 15:10knew about the really fascinating
- 15:12important work from Warrington
- 15:14wisecranson in England showing that when
- 15:17you gave him severely amnesic patients
- 15:20certain kinds of memory tests they could
- 15:22seemingly paradoxically exhibit robust
- 15:25and even normal memory for example if
- 15:28they saw a list of words including porch
- 15:30they could later identify the word porch
- 15:33with less help from a fragmented version
- 15:36of it than if they had not seen the word
- 15:38before what did this mean there were
- 15:39various interpretations of it so there
- 15:43was this background and we were
- 15:45discussing a lot of those things at that
- 15:46conference and then I think moving
- 15:48forward what we saw is a deeper
- 15:51exploration into some of these issues so
- 15:53for example coming out of Larry Squire's
- 15:55lab there was the important science
- 15:58paper 1980 Conan Squire where they
- 16:02showed that amnesic patients learning of
- 16:05new skills was not restricted to the
- 16:08motor domain but extended to the
- 16:11interesting case of reading mirror
- 16:13inverted script using some techniques
- 16:16that had been developed by the cognitive
- 16:18psychologist Paul Kohler's at Toronto
- 16:21that was one important development out
- 16:23of the Squire lab then in some
- 16:25collaborative work with Peter Graf and
- 16:27George mandler they were able to really
- 16:29clear up what was going on with
- 16:31Warrington and wisecrants phenomenon
- 16:33showing that there were conditions under
- 16:36which amnesic patients could exhibit
- 16:38normal relatively normal memory
- 16:40following a study of a word list if you
- 16:43gave them a three-letter word beginning
- 16:44and just asked them to write down the
- 16:46first word that popped to mind as most
- 16:48of us know if you gave them that same
- 16:50cue and asked them to think back to the
- 16:51study episode remember that episode they
- 16:55would exhibit impairments so we're
- 16:57starting to get a good handle on some of
- 16:59these issues that were known but hadn't
- 17:01really been explored meanwhile on the
- 17:04cognitive side there were also
- 17:06developments on this dissociable forms
- 17:08of memory
- 17:10uh idea so Larry Jacoby and Mark Dallas
- 17:13published in a very important paper in
- 17:151981 Jep General uh showing that levels
- 17:19of processing manipulations that we knew
- 17:21from a decade of research had very uh
- 17:24strong effects on standard recognition
- 17:26memory
- 17:27tests had little or no effect on
- 17:31identifying a briefly flash word and the
- 17:33priming effect that occurred as a result
- 17:36of Prior exposure occurred seemingly
- 17:38independently of Prior study
- 17:40manipulations it was a pretty shocking
- 17:43observation at the time tolving myself
- 17:45and Heather Stark were really interested
- 17:48in some of this work coming out of the
- 17:50Warrington and wisecrants sort of Lane
- 17:53and we devised the study of word
- 17:56fragment completion priming and normal
- 17:58subjects trying to see could we see an
- 18:01analogous dissociation to what had been
- 18:03observed in amnesics and I'm a little
- 18:06hesitant to present a 40 year old slide
- 18:09here but it's a
- 18:11hey
- 18:13um it's still it still exists data still
- 18:15exist and one of the most interesting
- 18:17findings from that study was that while
- 18:19recognition memory from one hour to one
- 18:22week of course declined as ebbing house
- 18:24would have expected the priming effect
- 18:26on a fragment completion test so having
- 18:28studied a word you're now given
- 18:30incomplete fragments and you're trying
- 18:31to identify the word you get a big Boost
- 18:34from prior study but the magnitude of
- 18:36that boost did not change between one
- 18:38hour and seven days we thought that was
- 18:40pretty cool at the time little did we
- 18:42know that David Mitchell years later
- 18:45would track down subjects who had been
- 18:46in one of his priming studies uh 17
- 18:49years later when undergraduates are now
- 18:5140 years old and he found evidence of
- 18:54preserve priming over 17 years with both
- 18:56pictures and words while all of these
- 18:59dissociations were generating a lot of
- 19:01discussion how do we think about these
- 19:03uh phenomena what's the best way of
- 19:05theoretically conceptualism
- 19:07conceptualizing them some people were
- 19:10focusing on the idea that there were
- 19:11multiple memories systems involved
- 19:14separate memory systems for procedural
- 19:17learning for priming versus standard old
- 19:20recall and recognition other people were
- 19:22saying no we should think about that as
- 19:25think about those dissociations as
- 19:27reflecting different measures operating
- 19:28within fundamentally the same system
- 19:30then in 1985 Peter Graf and I published
- 19:34some work on new work on amnesic
- 19:37patients and it was there that we
- 19:39introduced the distinction between
- 19:41implicit and explicit memory and the
- 19:44idea there was that we wanted to use
- 19:46descriptive terms to try to capture the
- 19:49key elements of what was going on in
- 19:52these two areas of study explicit memory
- 19:55reflecting conscious recollection of a
- 19:57past experience implicit reflecting
- 19:59non-conscious effects of uh of Prior
- 20:02exposure on past experience so going
- 20:06forward that and the similar distinction
- 20:08from Squire declarative and
- 20:10non-declarative memory helped to
- 20:11organize the literature without
- 20:13necessarily hiring someone to make a
- 20:15commitment to one point of view or the
- 20:16other
- 20:17meanwhile cognitive Neuroscience is
- 20:20starting to emerge as a topic in the
- 20:22field so in 1984 Mike casedica edits the
- 20:26handbook of cognitive Neuroscience I
- 20:28didn't put Mike's picture up there
- 20:29because everybody knows what he looks
- 20:31like and he's sitting right there he
- 20:32doesn't need a picture
- 20:34um
- 20:34as far as I know this is the first time
- 20:37the term cognitive Neuroscience appears
- 20:39in a book title Mike can tell me that
- 20:41I'm wrong but I wonder what if there is
- 20:44an earlier uh example of that so it's
- 20:47it's really in the air now in 1984 1986
- 20:50Joe Ledoux and Bill Hurst put together
- 20:52an interesting volume mind and brain
- 20:54dialogues and cognitive Neuroscience
- 20:56they paired up a cognitive psychologist
- 20:58and a neuroscientist on a variety of
- 21:00topics I wrote the cognitive chapter on
- 21:03memory I was paired up uh with uh with
- 21:05Mike Gabriel from the University of
- 21:07Illinois we went back and forth and had
- 21:09some interesting exchanges on how could
- 21:11we most productively move forward
- 21:14um well now there are other developments
- 21:17in the 1980s that are obviously crucial
- 21:20the fuel changing pet study from
- 21:23Peterson Fox Posner Minton and rayco
- 21:26published
- 21:27in 1989 showed that now we could use a
- 21:33functional neuroimaging to study
- 21:35cognitive processes that really
- 21:37obviously set in motion a lot of
- 21:39important things uh in our field related
- 21:41to experimental design and linking up uh
- 21:44brain and mind that I don't need to
- 21:46elaborate on and as Patty mentioned in
- 21:491989 uh Json published its first issue
- 21:52so things are really starting to move
- 21:54now we get the first pet evidence of
- 21:58activation of the hippocampus in normal
- 22:01humans from a study by Squire at all in
- 22:05in 1992
- 22:07so one of the points I want to make out
- 22:09of this is that many of the issues that
- 22:11were discussed among 1980s early 90s
- 22:14memory researchers who attempted to
- 22:16bridge cognitive and neural levels of
- 22:18analysis were what I would call wear
- 22:20questions where issues regarding brain
- 22:24regions linked to particular forms of
- 22:25memory is the hippocampus for example
- 22:28selectively involved in explicit
- 22:30declarative or spatial memory on the one
- 22:32hand versus implicit non-declarative or
- 22:34non-spatial memory on the other what
- 22:37about recollection versus familiarity
- 22:39we're all familiar with the literature
- 22:40on these topics what cortical or
- 22:42subcortical regions subserve priming or
- 22:44procedural learning what role does
- 22:46prefrontal cortex play in episodic
- 22:48encoding and retrieval and I would argue
- 22:51that these kinds of where questions were
- 22:54very well suited to study with patent
- 22:57fmri neuroimaging of course in
- 22:59conjunction with cognitively
- 23:01well-informed paradigms and Concepts I
- 23:03think all that coming together was one
- 23:06of the reasons why AI the field started
- 23:08to advance pretty rapidly one nice
- 23:10example of this comes from the early
- 23:12Toronto pet studies of encoding and
- 23:15retrieval tolvin Craig moskovic and
- 23:18others were using a pet now pairing it
- 23:22up with well-defined cognitive paradigms
- 23:24cognitive constructs derived from
- 23:27earlier
- 23:28research in cognitive psychology and
- 23:31Reporting some interesting differences
- 23:32between left and right frontal lobe
- 23:34activation during encoding and retrieval
- 23:38so by the time the first CNS meeting
- 23:40which I guess was 94 not 93. the field
- 23:44was I think was poised to incorporate
- 23:47functional neuroimaging into studies
- 23:48focused on distinguishing among forms
- 23:51and processes that comprise memory and
- 23:55related questions that have fueled the
- 23:56development of memory research over the
- 23:58past 30 years the Advent of of event
- 24:02related fmri later in the 90s I think
- 24:05accelerated the development of This
- 24:07research by not only providing greater
- 24:10flexibility and experimental design some
- 24:13of us remember when you had a really
- 24:14just do violence to your cognitive
- 24:16Paradigm to make it fit a blocked design
- 24:18and pet or fmri that was no longer
- 24:21necessary and also allowing researchers
- 24:24to link changes in bold activity to
- 24:26subjective aspects of memory by sorting
- 24:29brain activity based on subjective
- 24:32response they're men probably nowadays
- 24:34hundreds of examples of this I think one
- 24:37nice one came from Eldridge at all their
- 24:39Nature Neuroscience 2000 paper where
- 24:41they paired up an event related fmri
- 24:44study with the remember no technique uh
- 24:47developed by tolving where following
- 24:51study of a list of words in addition to
- 24:53asking people whether they recognize the
- 24:56word as being old from the list or new
- 24:58you would have them make a judgment do
- 25:00you remember specific details about the
- 25:03prior occurrence do you just know it
- 25:04happened is it just familiar to you they
- 25:06asked whether hippocampal activity
- 25:08during retrieval specifically was
- 25:10related to our responses and indeed they
- 25:13provided evidence that that was so
- 25:16so all of these developments I think
- 25:18then led to the kind of taxonomies that
- 25:21were all familiar with I took this from
- 25:24Ward's 2020 textbook
- 25:26Mangan and gazanaga have a similar
- 25:29taxonomy where we might disagree on some
- 25:32of the details of this but if you squint
- 25:34a little bit probably most people will
- 25:36say uh yeah as a Forks Mark first
- 25:38approximation to different kinds of
- 25:41memory that's at least
- 25:43acceptable if not a final answer and I
- 25:46think that came out of the all those
- 25:48lines of research some of which were
- 25:50inspired by that Lake Mori conference
- 25:53okay my last five minutes I want to try
- 25:55to make a briefcase that now something
- 25:57similar has happened
- 26:00in the tradition of research related to
- 26:04the pioneering early work of Sir
- 26:06Frederick Bartlett
- 26:09so as we know
- 26:11um Bartlett in his famous 1932 book
- 26:14reported all kinds of interesting memory
- 26:16distortions that people made when they
- 26:18remembered stories led to his conclusion
- 26:21famous conclusion that memory appears to
- 26:24be a fair of construction rather than
- 26:26reproduction
- 26:28um
- 26:29Bartlett's work was ignored for a while
- 26:31but cognitive psychologists picked it up
- 26:33in the 60s and 70s and they published
- 26:35numerous aspects on constructed numerous
- 26:38studies on constructive aspects of
- 26:40memory during that time but there was
- 26:43very little going on in neuropsychology
- 26:45or Neuroscience from this constructive
- 26:48perspective that was pretty much if not
- 26:51purely largely a cognitive Enterprise
- 26:53but that began to change in the 1990s so
- 26:58what happened well I think one important
- 27:00development was the Advent of the source
- 27:02monitoring framework
- 27:04introduced by Marcia Johnson her
- 27:06colleagues an importance like bulletin
- 27:08paper in 1993 this Incorporated
- 27:11cognitive data and Theory as well as
- 27:13neuropsychological observations on a
- 27:16variety of patient populations and got
- 27:18people thinking about more constructive
- 27:20aspects of memory in relation to brain
- 27:24activity
- 27:26neuropsychological studies were starting
- 27:28to reveal some very striking memory
- 27:30distortions so work from Alan Parkin
- 27:33from my lab uh
- 27:36reported extremely high pathologically
- 27:40high levels of false alarms in patients
- 27:43with specific kinds of frontal lobe
- 27:45damage that in both of those papers we
- 27:47try to relate to cognitive constructs
- 27:50regarding constructive memory there were
- 27:52some very interesting work on
- 27:54confabulation in brain damage and
- 27:56amnesic patients coming from Arman
- 27:58schmitter and his colleagues from Mars
- 28:00moskovich that was linking up some very
- 28:03interesting cognitive constructs with
- 28:06evidence of fluorid memory Distortion in
- 28:10these patients mikra verify and I began
- 28:12on a series of studies of memory
- 28:15Illusions in amnesic patients so we're
- 28:17starting to see the emergence of more at
- 28:20least neuropsychologically oriented work
- 28:22on constructive memory
- 28:25um another important development from a
- 28:27paradigmatic point of view was the
- 28:29Advent of the Paradigm I'm sure we're
- 28:32all familiar with the false recall and
- 28:33recognition of semantic Associates
- 28:35Paradigm that Roddy rodiger and Kathleen
- 28:39McDermott published on in 1995 where
- 28:41they rediscovered and expanded on
- 28:44earlier work by dece
- 28:46I assume that most people are familiar
- 28:48with this Paradigm you can read what's
- 28:50going on on the slide the point I want
- 28:52to make is that this gave people with a
- 28:54cognitive Neuroscience orientation a way
- 28:56of of reliably inducing a particular
- 29:00kind of robust false memory for example
- 29:02in the fmri scanner so now you could go
- 29:06in and start asking questions about
- 29:07brain activity related to true and false
- 29:10memories and so neuroimaging and Herb
- 29:13studies use this procedure to examine
- 29:15neural correlative true versus false
- 29:17memories my lab was involved in this we
- 29:20did work with pet with Tim Curran Eric
- 29:23Ryman uh with Randy Buckner event
- 29:26related fmri a collaboration with Marcia
- 29:29Johnson looking at some irk correlates
- 29:31so by 1998 uh Wilma kutsal Ken Norman
- 29:36and I were able to write an annual
- 29:37review psychology article on the
- 29:39cognitive emerging cognitive
- 29:41Neuroscience of constructive memory
- 29:43there was enough activity over the
- 29:46previous decade for us to try to put
- 29:48forth some ideas related to Marsha
- 29:50Johnson's earlier work going forward a
- 29:54decade Donna Addison and I extended this
- 29:56cognitive Neuroscience of constructive
- 29:58memory concept uh to how we think about
- 30:01the role of memory and Imagining the
- 30:03future the idea that some of these
- 30:05constructive aspects of memory that
- 30:07result in memory Distortion might
- 30:09actually be good things if you're trying
- 30:11to use memory in a flexible way to
- 30:13imagine novel future events and we and
- 30:16others showed striking similarities in
- 30:18brain activity when people were asked to
- 30:20remember past experiences and imagine
- 30:22future experiences this is from our
- 30:25paper in 2007 showing a default Network
- 30:28midline regions showing that common
- 30:30activation and others did as well
- 30:33Kathleen McDermott's lab with Carl
- 30:35Spooner published some related work and
- 30:37in that same year of 2007 we had
- 30:40important work from Eleanor McGuire and
- 30:42Demis hassebus showing that amnesic
- 30:44patients there are amnesic patients at
- 30:46least have difficulty imagining novel
- 30:48scenes led to their important construct
- 30:50of scene construction Randy Buckner her
- 30:53and Carol published a very nice
- 30:56integrative article on self-projection
- 30:59uh and the brain and that work has
- 31:01really moved forward over the last 15
- 31:03years again extending this notion of
- 31:05cognitive Neuroscience of constructive
- 31:07memory and I'll just conclude by briefly
- 31:09mentioning two other related
- 31:11developments one is the body of work on
- 31:15reconsolidation that came out of the
- 31:18early study with
- 31:20non-human animals from Joe Ledoux lab
- 31:23led by Karim Nader and Nader and his
- 31:26colleagues as this work evolved extended
- 31:29the concept of reconsolidation linked it
- 31:32up with uh the cognitive constructs
- 31:35going back to Bartlett about how memory
- 31:37can change as a consequence of retrieval
- 31:39and reconsolidation perhaps giving a
- 31:41neural underpinning to that so again an
- 31:44expansion on this notion of cognitive
- 31:46Neuroscience of constructive memory and
- 31:49my last slide or second at the last
- 31:53slide I'll show as another important
- 31:55annual review paper from Morris mosque
- 31:57vigil and nadell Roberto cabeza and
- 31:59Gordon Whitaker on their work on how
- 32:02episodic memory transforms over time
- 32:06with relation to what's going on in the
- 32:08hippocampus in the neocortex again
- 32:11filling in an important piece of the
- 32:12puzzle and I think ultimately giving us
- 32:15a lot a lot of insight into again these
- 32:19early ideas of Bartlett his famous quote
- 32:22here another one of his famous quotes
- 32:23that remembering is not a re-excitation
- 32:26of fixed lifeless and fragmentary traces
- 32:29it's an imaginative reconstruction or
- 32:32construction I think a lot of this work
- 32:34in cognitive Neuroscience has helped to
- 32:36enrich our understanding of this
- 32:38fundamental insight okay thank you for
- 32:41your attention
- 32:42[Applause]
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