Claude vs ChatGPT: Who Can Build a Profitable Trading Strategy? — Transcript
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- 0:00Hello guys and welcome back to the
- 0:01channel. Today we're going to find out
- 0:03if two of the most powerful AI models
- 0:05right now can actually build profitable
- 0:08trading strategy. Opus 5.5 versus GPT
- 0:11salt 6.1.
- 0:13Both going to have the same lab, the
- 0:15same data set, same asset and one single
- 0:18idea to start from and at the end only
- 0:21one thing matters. Which one walks out
- 0:23with a strategy that actually makes
- 0:25money. But before we get into it, make
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- 0:42available discount. So spoiler alert,
- 0:45one of them actually did it. It built a
- 0:47profitable strategy that survived
- 0:49everything I threw at it. If you want a
- 0:51PDF with the full rules and the logic
- 0:53behind it, all you have to do is
- 0:56subscribe and leave a comment down below
- 0:58and [snorts] I'll send it to you. Now,
- 1:00how does this work? Both models will get
- 1:03the exact same lab, the research
- 1:05infrastructure that I built and use
- 1:07every single day. It's called strategy
- 1:09architect.
- 1:10Two identical copies with a wall between
- 1:13them so no picking and no copying each
- 1:16other. Inside they will get eight years
- 1:18of data to learn from from 2016 to 2023
- 1:22and they can test it, learn from it,
- 1:24break it, rebuild it, whatever they
- 1:26want. At the end each one hands me its
- 1:29best strategies. We're going to call
- 1:30them candidates. But anything can look
- 1:33good on data that they have already
- 1:35studied. So I locked away two and a half
- 1:37years from 2024 to August 2026 that
- 1:42neither of them has ever seen. That's
- 1:44the final exam and that's where we find
- 1:46out if their candidates actually work. I
- 1:49also didn't want them starting from a
- 1:51blank page with 20 assets
- 1:55>> Cuz then you can not really compare
- 1:56anything. So, I gave them one asset and
- 1:59one idea. The asset is US dollar against
- 2:02the Japanese yen, one of the most traded
- 2:04pairs in the world, super liquids with
- 2:06tight spreads, and the idea is this.
- 2:08USD/JPY often builds a range during the
- 2:11Asian session, and London tends to break
- 2:14it. So, find me a profitable trading
- 2:16strategy based on that.
- 2:19So, as you can see, these are the labs.
- 2:20This one belongs to Sol 6.1, and this
- 2:23one belongs to Opus 5.5. They are
- 2:27identical. And as you can see here, we
- 2:29have fresh new chat.
- 2:32Um this is Sol, as you can see, it's on
- 2:34lab, and Opus as well.
- 2:37So, everything is good and ready. We're
- 2:39going to use 6.1 Sol on the high
- 2:42settings. All right, we're not going to
- 2:44use Astro because we want to use
- 2:46something affordable. Same thing on
- 2:48Opus, we're going to use the 5.5. We're
- 2:50not going to use 5.1.
- 2:52Uh Fable 5.1, it is um it requires
- 2:55usage, and we're going to set it on the
- 2:57high settings. And as you can see, the
- 2:59usage right here, the weekly limit is at
- 3:0194%. We're going to see how much it's
- 3:03going to take uh on both models. Opus is
- 3:07set at 19%, and we're going to see how
- 3:09much each one is going to take. And this
- 3:11is going to happen in three rounds. So,
- 3:14round one, they're going to build, and
- 3:15they have to work at least an hour and a
- 3:17half, so no rushing. Round two, we're
- 3:20going to open the vault, which is the
- 3:22out of sample, the data that they have
- 3:24never seen. And we're going to see if
- 3:26their candidates actually work there.
- 3:28And finally, round three, whatever
- 3:30survives, it's goes to a real broker.
- 3:33We're going to go to MT5 tester on IC
- 3:36Market. So, we see if it works or not.
- 3:38So, let's get into it. So, here's the
- 3:40first prompt, the exact same text into
- 3:43both labs at the same moment. [snorts]
- 3:45Here, we're going to set a goal. A goal
- 3:47is just basically it's an objective that
- 3:50it's going to keep pursuing. Um they
- 3:52both have this feature. Same thing on
- 3:55Office 5.5 and we're going to pass both
- 3:58the prompt to both of them and we're
- 4:01going to let them work.
- 4:03Now, while they work, let's talk about
- 4:05what's inside the lab.
- 4:08Because this is not just a plain ChatGPT
- 4:10chat in a browser tab, all right? If you
- 4:12ask a normal AI for a trading strategy
- 4:15and it's going to take 30 seconds and
- 4:17you will get an RSI-based strategy with
- 4:20a stop and a target. If you take it to
- 4:22the lab and bang, that's it. It It will
- 4:24fail miserably and I know that you have
- 4:26tried it before. Well, Strategy
- 4:28Architect works on works the other way
- 4:31around. So, let me show you what a claim
- 4:33you have probably heard.
- 4:35When the Nasdaq gaps up at the open, the
- 4:38gap gets filled. So, a normal AI, it
- 4:41will just code it. It will trade the
- 4:43gap, target the fill and done. The
- 4:46Strategy Architect pulls it apart first.
- 4:48So, what kind of gap? Is it big or is it
- 4:51small? Is it after news or on a quiet
- 4:54day? Who's trading at that moment and
- 4:57why would they push price back? Also,
- 5:00filled when? In the first hour or by the
- 5:03close? Is it even better than a random
- 5:05day? So, it compares a baseline and the
- 5:07question most people never ask, what
- 5:09happens on days the gap doesn't fill?
- 5:12Because sometimes the failure can lead
- 5:14to another strategy. So, it writes down
- 5:17a dozen competing explanations like
- 5:20these and makes its before it is allowed
- 5:23to see a single result. And every test
- 5:25is logged before the result comes in, so
- 5:27it can't hide its failures. It can't
- 5:29peek at the future.
- 5:31And the vault, which is the
- 5:32out-of-sample, stays locked until I open
- 5:35it. And every mistake goes into the
- 5:37memory its memory for the next campaign,
- 5:39so we're not repeating the same mistake.
- 5:41And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
- 5:43There is a whole infrastructure
- 5:45and a lot of moving parts below it.
- 5:47We're going to talk about this in a
- 5:48later video.
- 5:50All right, so back in the labs and looks
- 5:51like Opus is starting to finalize. So,
- 5:55this is the right time for the
- 5:56challenge. I'm going to send it
- 5:59to Opus first because it looks like Saul
- 6:01is still a bit behind. So,
- 6:03I'm going to give it a little more time.
- 6:05Now, why did I send that challenge
- 6:08prompt?
- 6:09Basically, what I learned is that AIs
- 6:11sometimes get tunnel vision. So, they
- 6:13grab the first decent idea and they're
- 6:15going to keep polishing it and only
- 6:17focusing on that. A challenge is going
- 6:19to force them to stop, audit everything,
- 6:22and zoom out.
- 6:23Some of my best results came right after
- 6:26this push.
- 6:27Uh in my own work, I pushed more than
- 6:29once, but
- 6:31here is just one.
- 6:33But still, uh it's the tip that worth
- 6:35stealing. All right. Now, as you can
- 6:37see, Opus finished its work in an hour
- 6:40and uh and 20 minutes and basically
- 6:43waited for the hour and a half mark to
- 6:45seal
- 6:46everything with it. It found three
- 6:48candidates and Saul actually kept going.
- 6:51So, we're going to wait for it to
- 6:52finish. All right, so Saul finished
- 6:54after about an hour and 40 minutes with
- 6:57only one candidate.
- 6:59And of course, all of them made money on
- 7:01the data. So, Saul it found only one
- 7:03strategy that made money. Uh Opus find
- 7:06found three, but that's expected, to be
- 7:08honest, and it means absolutely nothing.
- 7:10All right, you can tune any strategy to
- 7:12the past until it looks perfect. The
- 7:15only question is whether it works on
- 7:17data it has never seen. So, here's
- 7:20prompt number two, which is permission
- 7:22to open the vault, and every candidate
- 7:24will be run on 2024 to 2026. Once, no
- 7:28tweaking, no optimizing, no second
- 7:31chances. All right, so the results are
- 7:33in.
- 7:33>> [clears throat]
- 7:34>> Let's see.
- 7:35Uh we're going to start with Saul and
- 7:37its one and only candidate that won in
- 7:39the in sample.
- 7:41And it looks like that. It failed profit
- 7:44factor 1.006,
- 7:46basically break even. It had a 30%
- 7:50drawdown from its highest equity curve.
- 7:52So, it didn't just went into drawdown,
- 7:55but it actually made money
- 7:56and then started
- 7:58losing it
- 7:59along the way. But, look at the equity
- 8:02curve. And this is interesting, to be
- 8:04honest. So, through 2024 and 2025 on
- 8:08unseen data, unseen years, it was
- 8:11actually making money.
- 8:14So, pretty consistent on unseen data.
- 8:16And then 2026 comes,
- 8:19the market changes, and everything
- 8:22went to the drain. I don't know what
- 8:24happened here. It needs more
- 8:26investigation later on, but
- 8:28this is strange.
- 8:30Something changed in that particular
- 8:33candidate or the mechanism that it
- 8:35exploits. So, failed. Now, all this,
- 8:38three candidates, um went to the out of
- 8:41sample.
- 8:42C1 passes, C3 passes, and C2 failed. So,
- 8:47two candidates survived in the out of
- 8:49sample.
- 8:50And here's where it gets interesting. In
- 8:53the final prompt, I told them to combine
- 8:55every survivor into one book. So, for
- 8:57example, C1 and C3 made money.
- 9:00Uh and they trade very differently. So,
- 9:02they have low correlation. So, one
- 9:05has a bad month, the other usually
- 9:07doesn't. So, when together, when you
- 9:10merge them together, they can give us a
- 9:12better equity curve and better metrics
- 9:14than trading them separately,
- 9:16you know, or choosing only one. So, as
- 9:18you can see, [clears throat] on data
- 9:19they had never seen, they made plus 65%
- 9:22with a max drawdown of about 14%. More
- 9:25return and a smoother ride, as you can
- 9:27see. Um don't let the full history chart
- 9:30fool you because I know it looks huge
- 9:32between the book and the two strategies
- 9:35separately, but mainly it is because of
- 9:38the compounding effect.
- 9:40Uh the unseen part right here is the one
- 9:42that counts. So, Opus takes round two,
- 9:45but I'm not calling it yet because
- 9:47everything so far running Python and a
- 9:50different uh data feed, real money
- 9:53doesn't live in Python. So, we need to
- 9:55test it on a a feed that we we can we
- 9:57can actually trade. So, we translated
- 10:00both strategies into MT5 Expert Advisor
- 10:03and run them in IC Market on tester. So,
- 10:06C3 is actually sensitive and the edge
- 10:10lived in tiny details. So, price poking
- 10:13just a hair above yesterday's high and
- 10:16then coming back. Uh in Forex, every
- 10:18broker has its own price feed. So, it's
- 10:20not like futures where everyone gets the
- 10:22same price from the exchange. And on C3
- 10:25days, the two feeds only agreed 61% of
- 10:28the time. So, the feed that I use in the
- 10:31the internal backtesting, they're not
- 10:33like huge differences, but they are only
- 10:35small pips differences, but that's why
- 10:38uh C3 failed because it used those
- 10:41little pokes, tiny pokes as part of its
- 10:43edge, you know? But, C1 was actually
- 10:46bulletproof. So, as you can see, the
- 10:47same days on both feed and is in IC
- 10:50Market, it made plus 43
- 10:53435%
- 10:54from 2016 to 2026.
- 10:57Uh the drawdown is bigger, there around
- 10:5829% because you pay real commission. The
- 11:02commission was a bit different from what
- 11:03I modeled, but um
- 11:05and and its curve has has these big
- 11:07jumps. As you can see, you might think
- 11:09that they're lucky days, but they're
- 11:10not. That's uh the design and the logic
- 11:13behind the strat behind the strategy.
- 11:15So, every night, C1 will draw um the
- 11:19Asian [clears throat] box, but it only
- 11:21trades when the box is tight, tighter
- 11:23than most of the last 20 nights. A tight
- 11:26box means a tiny stop, usually 15 to 20
- 11:30pips. And if the break is fake, it loses
- 11:33that tiny stop but there but there's no
- 11:36take profit, okay?
- 11:38The strategy has no take profit. When
- 11:39the break is real, it rides until noon,
- 11:43New York, and gets out right before big
- 11:46US news, all right? Uh it risks 12 pips
- 11:49and sometimes it catches 93 pips and in
- 11:52a lot of instances. That's eight times
- 11:55the risk or eight R or seven R trades.
- 11:58So, days like this can pay for eight
- 12:00losers and it's not a fluke or lucky
- 12:03days. C1 had four to nine of these big
- 12:06days every single year from 2016 to 2023
- 12:11and it kept coming in 2024 and 2025 and
- 12:142026 on seen data. So, it is a pattern
- 12:18in price, it is not luck, it is
- 12:20consistent.
- 12:22So, the final verdict, office wins all
- 12:24three rounds. It's strategy, the first
- 12:26candidate survived data it had never
- 12:28seen and it survived a real broker, so
- 12:31broke even with a 30% drawdown
- 12:33and never made it to round three and um
- 12:37now my honest opinion, would I trade
- 12:39this one strategy on one pair alone? No.
- 12:42And nobody should. One strategy is just
- 12:44one brick. But put it in a book of 20
- 12:48uncorrelated strategies, some on
- 12:49USD/JPY, some on US 100, some on EUR/USD
- 12:53from different families like mean
- 12:55reversion, momentum, breakout,
- 12:57pre-breakout, whatever. And when one
- 13:01struggles, the others will carry it.
- 13:04So, that's how you get a steady equity
- 13:07curve, a smooth one.
- 13:09And at the end, if you want the PDF of
- 13:11the winning strategy with the full rules
- 13:12and the logic, guys, just remember, all
- 13:15you have to do is to subscribe and leave
- 13:17a comment down below and I'll send it to
- 13:19you.
- 13:19Now, happy trading and good luck.
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