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Claude Tested 100,000 Price Action Strategies (Here’s What Works) — Transcript

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  1. 0:00In this video, I use Claude to test over
  2. 0:02100,000 price action concepts to find
  3. 0:04which actually work. Lately, there's
  4. 0:06been a lot of trading videos focusing on
  5. 0:08price action and its core mechanics
  6. 0:10versus fancier indicators. So, in this
  7. 0:13video, I tested those price action
  8. 0:15concepts the same way they're taught,
  9. 0:16the way people typically use them, as
  10. 0:19well as a 40,000 sample to capture
  11. 0:21everything in between. This way, you're
  12. 0:22not just believing anecdotal evidence of
  13. 0:25one single type of trader. You're
  14. 0:26looking at all the data and numbers
  15. 0:28behind it. This whole process covered
  16. 0:30almost 5 years of 1-minute data on NQ
  17. 0:33and ES with over 300 million trades. So,
  18. 0:37by the end, I'll show you the exact
  19. 0:38price action setups that work and the
  20. 0:40time frames you should be running it on,
  21. 0:42as well as all the price action concepts
  22. 0:44that don't work. Now, if it's your first
  23. 0:45time on the channel, my name is Brendan.
  24. 0:47I studied math and econ at UCLA, worked
  25. 0:50in investment banking at Raymond James
  26. 0:51for over 3 years, and have spent the
  27. 0:53past 2 years building out trading
  28. 0:55systems for my clients. And as always,
  29. 0:57this is not financial advice, and I'm
  30. 0:58not guaranteeing any profits. I'm just
  31. 1:00showing you all the data and methodology
  32. 1:02behind these tests and how you can
  33. 1:04leverage them as well. Now, before
  34. 1:05diving into the results of the test, let
  35. 1:07me first go over what price action
  36. 1:09really is. So, the idea is that price
  37. 1:11action is just trading off the chart
  38. 1:12itself. So, number one here is just a
  39. 1:14level. So, on this chart here, you can
  40. 1:16see that this is support where price
  41. 1:18keeps bouncing off of it, and above here
  42. 1:20is resistance, and this is where price
  43. 1:21gets pushed back down. So, the idea with
  44. 1:23price action is that price is going to
  45. 1:25hold around these levels much more
  46. 1:27frequently than just random lines. And
  47. 1:29this idea of levels is supposed to work
  48. 1:31from 1-minute, 5-minute, all the way up
  49. 1:33to daily charts. Now, the second biggest
  50. 1:35component of price action is something
  51. 1:36called trend. So, an uptrend is just
  52. 1:38higher highs and higher lows as well,
  53. 1:41just as this chart section here shows.
  54. 1:43And more specifically, when price closes
  55. 1:45above the last high, this is called a
  56. 1:47break of structure. The idea with this
  57. 1:49is that it's supposed to confirm that
  58. 1:50the trend is still continuing. Now, next
  59. 1:52up, what we have is something called a
  60. 1:53change of character. This is the first
  61. 1:55time that the price breaks the other
  62. 1:57way. So, here on this chart, you can see
  63. 1:59that it actually closes below the last
  64. 2:01higher low. And just as a spoiler alert,
  65. 2:03this change of character concept and
  66. 2:05price action is actually the one that
  67. 2:06held up the best out of all of our
  68. 2:08findings. Now, that doesn't mean that
  69. 2:10all price action concepts work
  70. 2:12perfectly. So, for example, the next one
  71. 2:14is sweep wouldn't be a signal by itself.
  72. 2:16The idea here with the sweep is that
  73. 2:17when price goes just past a higher or a
  74. 2:19low where a lot of traders keep their
  75. 2:21stop losses and then it comes right
  76. 2:23back. But, this is an example of a price
  77. 2:25action concept that through all the data
  78. 2:27actually showed that it only reversed
  79. 2:29about half the time. So, this could be
  80. 2:30helpful as a signal, but not as a core
  81. 2:33concept that you should be running. Now,
  82. 2:34the next concept of price action is
  83. 2:36something called a confirmation. So, say
  84. 2:38that your signals trigger, instead of
  85. 2:39buying right at the level, you would
  86. 2:41wait for a candle like this one to close
  87. 2:43above it before you get in. And then the
  88. 2:44last part of understanding how to use
  89. 2:46price action concepts is actually what
  90. 2:48time frame to trade on. So, you can
  91. 2:50trade from the one-minute chart all the
  92. 2:51way to the daily chart. And later in the
  93. 2:53video, I'll show you the best ways to
  94. 2:54think about these time frames depending
  95. 2:56on which specific price action concepts
  96. 2:58work best. So, as a whole, we can pretty
  97. 3:01much say that almost all price action
  98. 3:03concepts at a quick glance do work.
  99. 3:05Levels are real. Obviously, support and
  100. 3:07resistance lines do show up in charts
  101. 3:09and they're backed by data as well. But,
  102. 3:11what we want to show in this video is
  103. 3:13the best possible combination of
  104. 3:15concepts, when to use them, and when not
  105. 3:17to use them. Some work best only as a
  106. 3:19signal, while others should be a major
  107. 3:22core component of how you trade. And
  108. 3:24when you put all those different price
  109. 3:25action concepts together, you get 10
  110. 3:28major setups, which are the ones here.
  111. 3:29We're going to be testing these and
  112. 3:31derivatives of all of these, but these
  113. 3:33just cover the main ways that people
  114. 3:35trade price action. And really quickly,
  115. 3:37if you are interested in learning how to
  116. 3:38build your own testing and trading
  117. 3:40systems with Claude just like this, make
  118. 3:42sure to click the link in the
  119. 3:43description for my community. I
  120. 3:45currently run the largest AI focused
  121. 3:47trading community on school, which
  122. 3:49covers everything from stocks, options,
  123. 3:51crypto, and futures. And if you do want
  124. 3:53to work with me one-on-one to develop
  125. 3:55your own custom trading system, make
  126. 3:56sure to click the link in the
  127. 3:57description for that as well. Now, let's
  128. 3:59go into the methodology of this testing
  129. 4:01system. The problem with testing price
  130. 4:03action traditionally is that it's all
  131. 4:05drawn by eye. So, the idea is that if
  132. 4:07you ask five different price action
  133. 4:08traders what this level is on a chart,
  134. 4:10they'd have five different answers for
  135. 4:12you. So, this is an example of trader A
  136. 4:14and trader B that kind of see the chart
  137. 4:16differently. Now, obviously people
  138. 4:17trading like this never really check
  139. 4:19your own work. It's pretty much based on
  140. 4:21feel. So, our goal here is to take every
  141. 4:23single one of these judgments and turn
  142. 4:26it into something that we can actually
  143. 4:27test. So, on the left-hand side here,
  144. 4:29what we have are called dials. And these
  145. 4:31are all the things that we can test that
  146. 4:33relate to price action. So, how many
  147. 4:35touches a level needs, whether it's a
  148. 4:37line or a zone, which candle actually
  149. 4:39counts as confirmation. We also have
  150. 4:41things like where the stop goes, where
  151. 4:42the target goes, which chart you use,
  152. 4:44and which filters you add on top. Now,
  153. 4:46obviously in a trader's brain, these are
  154. 4:48all things they would judge just
  155. 4:49visually by looking at a chart. But, our
  156. 4:51goal here is to take all of this and be
  157. 4:53able to quantitatively test it. And this
  158. 4:55is exactly why we use Claude to build
  159. 4:57out this in-depth testing system to be
  160. 4:59able to turn these dials into something
  161. 5:01that's tangible. So, with Claude, we can
  162. 5:03take the way we trade, force it into
  163. 5:05explicit rules just like these here, and
  164. 5:06then test those rules across years of
  165. 5:09data in a few sessions. And just to show
  166. 5:11you the scale of this test, if we
  167. 5:13multiply out all of these different
  168. 5:14types of dials, we get to this number
  169. 5:16here, which is 20.3 trillion versions of
  170. 5:19looking at price action. Now, this
  171. 5:21pretty much explains why two price
  172. 5:23action traders would never typically
  173. 5:25trade the same way just because there's
  174. 5:27so many different versions of looking at
  175. 5:28a chart. So, in the test we ran, we took
  176. 5:30a sample of 40,000, spread it across
  177. 5:32every dial, so we have around 4,000 for
  178. 5:35each of the 10 setups that I just showed
  179. 5:36you. Now, the second most important
  180. 5:38thing about price action is that they
  181. 5:39don't actually spread out evenly across
  182. 5:41all these different types of versions.
  183. 5:43So, a lot of people cluster around the
  184. 5:45same settings like a clean level with
  185. 5:47two or more touches, a stop is just past
  186. 5:50the level or the last swing, things like
  187. 5:52that. So, on top of these 40,000
  188. 5:54versions of price action, we added
  189. 5:56additional 61,000 of common versions
  190. 5:58that were bucketed to get to over
  191. 6:00100,000 different ways that we can
  192. 6:02actually test price action. And now, to
  193. 6:04make one thing super clear that I always
  194. 6:06make in all of my videos, we're not just
  195. 6:08asking Claude whether price action
  196. 6:09works, right, in a chatbot. An AI's
  197. 6:12opinion is not a real test. What we're
  198. 6:14doing instead is having Claude build an
  199. 6:16entire testing system that can take data
  200. 6:18at scale. So, what we have here is
  201. 6:20almost 5 years of 1-minute futures data,
  202. 6:22so about 3.6 million bars on NQ and ES.
  203. 6:26Then after that, we built the full
  204. 6:27system test with Claude in layers. It
  205. 6:30covered over 300 million trades with
  206. 6:32real cost and slippage on top. We were
  207. 6:34fairly conservative in the assumptions,
  208. 6:36so that like if a candle touched the
  209. 6:38stop and the target in the same minute,
  210. 6:40we would count it as a loss. We also
  211. 6:41factored in luck by comparing against
  212. 6:43random trades, and then finally at the
  213. 6:45end, we did all of our testing out of
  214. 6:47sample on ES, so that the data was never
  215. 6:50really seen by the testing engine. So,
  216. 6:52here we can see the 2 years locked away
  217. 6:53meant that anything that we tested for
  218. 6:55all these different versions of price
  219. 6:57action had never seen the data before.
  220. 6:59So, out of the 100,000, only 88,000 had
  221. 7:02enough trades to even be graded on. Then
  222. 7:05after that, 24,000 made money after
  223. 7:07costs, and then only 8,310
  224. 7:10cleared a decent risk-adjusted bar with
  225. 7:12a sharp of over .5. About 8% of the
  226. 7:15versions of price action did actually
  227. 7:17make money after costs and are viable,
  228. 7:19but we obviously care about the
  229. 7:21specifics around this and how to
  230. 7:23actually think about it. Now, the first
  231. 7:24claim around using price action for
  232. 7:27trading is that it has a super high win
  233. 7:28rate. Some people say like 80%. This
  234. 7:31chart here shows all of the original
  235. 7:3340,000 strategies by win rate and
  236. 7:35profit. So, you can see that win rate
  237. 7:37never really clears that 80%. Obviously,
  238. 7:39it does happen in some versions, but all
  239. 7:42in all, it's pretty rare to have this
  240. 7:43high of a win rate. And as you'll see
  241. 7:45later on in the video, win rate doesn't
  242. 7:47really track profit at all. The
  243. 7:49correlation is pretty low, it's only
  244. 7:51.27. Now, next on a big-picture scale is
  245. 7:54figuring out which time frame works best
  246. 7:56for price action as well. Some people
  247. 7:58claim that it works on every single time
  248. 8:00frame, but obviously some work better
  249. 8:02than the others. Now, as expected, if
  250. 8:04you trade on the 1-minute time frame,
  251. 8:05you can see that costs take around 40%
  252. 8:08of the gross profit. That's just the
  253. 8:10nature of trading more often every
  254. 8:12single day. So, if you are just starting
  255. 8:14out, it's much much easier to be
  256. 8:15profitable if you're just taking slower
  257. 8:17trades. So, trading on like the 1-hour,
  258. 8:204-hour candles, rather than trading
  259. 8:221-minute candles, just because you're
  260. 8:23taking a lot less trades. And with
  261. 8:25factoring costs, your edge doesn't have
  262. 8:27to be significantly higher per trade.
  263. 8:29Now, the next concept is levels, and
  264. 8:31this was actually a very positive
  265. 8:32finding. So, we took every level, drew a
  266. 8:35line next to it at random, and then
  267. 8:36scored both the same way. So, obviously
  268. 8:38support and resistance would be the
  269. 8:40levels. And as you can see, levels here
  270. 8:42held 51.1% of the time, meaning that
  271. 8:45prices do react to levels much better
  272. 8:48than any other lines on the chart. But,
  273. 8:50more importantly than levels is the
  274. 8:51concept of how often a level gets
  275. 8:53touched. This is a pretty big concept of
  276. 8:55price action, where the more times you
  277. 8:57touch support or touch resistance, that
  278. 8:59means the stronger the level is. But,
  279. 9:01what we found here is that a level
  280. 9:02touched once beat its random line by
  281. 9:04like 9 percentage points, and then a
  282. 9:06level touched four times beat it by 6.1.
  283. 9:09This means that the extra touches, so
  284. 9:11continually touching support or
  285. 9:13resistance, didn't make it any stronger.
  286. 9:15In fact, it was actually the opposite,
  287. 9:17where levels touched three or more times
  288. 9:19actually bounced a bit less often, and
  289. 9:22then broke through a bit more often as
  290. 9:23well. Now, obviously you can find
  291. 9:25examples of this not being true, but
  292. 9:28across basically 300 million trades,
  293. 9:30this is pretty much how it's shaken out.
  294. 9:33So, the main takeaway is that levels
  295. 9:34obviously do matter, like support and
  296. 9:36resistance levels, but the amount of
  297. 9:38times it's been touched isn't as
  298. 9:40relevant for the level. But now, the
  299. 9:41most important finding for this whole
  300. 9:43entire video is the idea of flip zones.
  301. 9:46So, this is what I covered all the way
  302. 9:47in the beginning. So, when old
  303. 9:49resistance turns into support after
  304. 9:51price breaks through it. So, on the
  305. 9:53first retest, these held 11.5 percentage
  306. 9:56points more often than random lines,
  307. 9:58which is this dot all the way out here,
  308. 10:00and 10.9 points more on ES. So, this
  309. 10:03means that flip zones are probably the
  310. 10:05strongest, most important in all of
  311. 10:07price action, apart from just levels of
  312. 10:09support and resistance. Next is trend
  313. 10:11rule, so the break of structure as well
  314. 10:13as a change of character. So, trend
  315. 10:15concepts on their own don't predict
  316. 10:17where price goes, but as a trade, if you
  317. 10:19go deeper down, it was the best out of
  318. 10:21all 10 setups. And typically, the way
  319. 10:23you would use this is to wait for a
  320. 10:24sweep first, but when we test this on
  321. 10:27the locked away 2 years that the test
  322. 10:29never saw, it actually lost money. The
  323. 10:31best way to run this setup was without a
  324. 10:33sweep. Now, next we have confirmation,
  325. 10:35which is just to make sure in typical
  326. 10:37price action concepts to not catch a
  327. 10:39falling knife. So, here we took the
  328. 10:40exact same trades two ways, buying right
  329. 10:43at the level or waiting for a candle to
  330. 10:45confirm it. So, as you can see here,
  331. 10:46waiting does give a slightly worse
  332. 10:48price, but has an increased edge of
  333. 10:50around $719.
  334. 10:52So, the key here is that waiting for
  335. 10:53confirmation, again, is a good price
  336. 10:56action concept that you should do,
  337. 10:57especially on Nasdaq futures. Then, we
  338. 10:59have stops. So, a common rule is to only
  339. 11:01stop out when a candle closes past your
  340. 11:04stop instead of as soon as the price
  341. 11:06touches it. And when this happens, it
  342. 11:08does win more often, 40% against 29%
  343. 11:11here, but the losses get bigger, so
  344. 11:13overall it does cost money. So, all in
  345. 11:16all, a plain hard stop does perform
  346. 11:18better. Next, we wanted to make sure
  347. 11:19that we had all the context as well. If
  348. 11:21we traded only during the New York
  349. 11:23session, so 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
  350. 11:25Eastern time, this actually improved our
  351. 11:27edge per trade significantly. And like I
  352. 11:29talked about in the beginning of the
  353. 11:30video, we did an overall test to make
  354. 11:32sure which of these concepts held up,
  355. 11:34and then at the end we kept 2 years of
  356. 11:36data locked away that the test never saw
  357. 11:38to get a true final result. And before
  358. 11:40that final test, we just did a
  359. 11:41consistency check here to find which
  360. 11:43setups actually passed the first period
  361. 11:45on both markets. And out of every single
  362. 11:47setup on the chart, only the 4-hour
  363. 11:50change of character technically passed
  364. 11:52on NQ and ES, and it did that with both
  365. 11:54sets of versions. So, here we have the
  366. 11:56final test, which is just the 2 years of
  367. 11:57data that stayed locked away. So, no
  368. 11:59strategy saw this data, and nothing was
  369. 12:01tuned on it. So, most importantly, we
  370. 12:03first wanted to look at the overall time
  371. 12:05frame. This shows how many of the common
  372. 12:07versions
  373. 12:08on those 2 years by chart. So, on the
  374. 12:101-minute chart, around 10% or one out of
  375. 12:1310 strategies made money. And then once
  376. 12:15we get up into the 1-hour, 4-hour,
  377. 12:16daily, we can see that the percentage
  378. 12:18increases significantly. So, if you were
  379. 12:20to look at this quickly, if you were
  380. 12:21just trading the 4-hour chart instead of
  381. 12:23the 1-minute chart, you would have 45%
  382. 12:26of those price action concepts making
  383. 12:27money versus 9% on the 1-minute chart.
  384. 12:30So, now I'm going into the best version
  385. 12:32of all the different price action
  386. 12:33concepts, we have what is tested here,
  387. 12:35which is the change of character on the
  388. 12:374-hour time frame. So, this is just the
  389. 12:39plain set up, like I said, with no
  390. 12:41sweep. You enter at the candle close.
  391. 12:43The stop goes past the last swing, and
  392. 12:45the target is the same size as the risk.
  393. 12:47On the two locked years, which is
  394. 12:49everything after this dotted line, which
  395. 12:51again the system never sees, it made
  396. 12:52around $62,000 on a single NQ contract
  397. 12:56and around $39,000 on ES. Now, this is a
  398. 12:58good sign just because a strategy that
  399. 13:00was meant to fit on old data usually
  400. 13:02stops working on new data, but this one
  401. 13:04made money on both markets. And it's not
  402. 13:06just one version, so 39 of the 48
  403. 13:08versions here on its usual settings made
  404. 13:11money on the locked years, and so did
  405. 13:13two-thirds of the common versions as
  406. 13:15well. Now that we saw the best overall
  407. 13:16results from all this testing, what's
  408. 13:18more important about this video is which
  409. 13:20price action concepts make sense. Since
  410. 13:22you don't just want to test that one
  411. 13:23very specific rule, you want to make
  412. 13:25sure that you're using all of these.
  413. 13:26Sometimes these can be put directly in
  414. 13:28strategies, other times these can be
  415. 13:30used more so as filters or things to
  416. 13:32know before you trade. So, first is that
  417. 13:34the change of character on the 4-hour
  418. 13:36chart performed the best. It was the one
  419. 13:38set up that held up even in the locked
  420. 13:40away years. And now secondly and more
  421. 13:42importantly, and something that I almost
  422. 13:44always stress on the channel as well,
  423. 13:45especially if you're automating, is to
  424. 13:47trade on higher charts. Since the higher
  425. 13:49the chart, the more versions made money.
  426. 13:51It's much, much harder to find a
  427. 13:53successful strategy trading on the
  428. 13:551-minute chart versus the 4-hour or
  429. 13:571-day chart. Now, third is trading only
  430. 13:59the New York session time on futures.
  431. 14:01Fourth is skipping trades that go the
  432. 14:02same way as a 3-day run, since both kept
  433. 14:05adding money everywhere we checked.
  434. 14:07Fifth is waiting for that confirmation
  435. 14:08candle at least on the Nasdaq. Sixth is
  436. 14:11using a plain hard stop, and then
  437. 14:13seventh is not waiting for a sweep
  438. 14:15before the change of character. Since
  439. 14:17the closed base stop and the sweep,
  440. 14:19again, both of them cost money every
  441. 14:20single time we checked. So, basically
  442. 14:22the version of price action that
  443. 14:24survives all this testing is pretty
  444. 14:25simple. It's right here on this chart.
  445. 14:27It's really just one setup on the right
  446. 14:28chart, a simple entry and a hard stop.
  447. 14:31And this is an actual trade from the
  448. 14:32best version, too. So, here you can see
  449. 14:34the trend. Here's the first close the
  450. 14:36other way, which is the change of
  451. 14:37character, again, on the 4-hour chart.
  452. 14:40So, after this change of character on
  453. 14:41the 4-hour chart, you enter at this
  454. 14:43close, and then this is where you set
  455. 14:45the stop, and then this is where you set
  456. 14:47the target with no sweep or trend filter
  457. 14:49on top. Now, if this sounds familiar,
  458. 14:51it's because it's literally the same
  459. 14:53thing we keep finding in all these
  460. 14:54videos I make, which you can see from my
  461. 14:569,000 strategy test or my ICT test. In
  462. 15:00that 9,000 test, I said that mean
  463. 15:01reversion was the only strategy that
  464. 15:03really held up out of thousands of
  465. 15:05different variations. In the ICT test,
  466. 15:07the version that held up was fading the
  467. 15:09sweep, which was, again, a mean
  468. 15:10reversion style strategy. And what we
  469. 15:13have here is a reversal setup, which is,
  470. 15:15again, a mean reversion type of
  471. 15:17strategy. Only it's that it's slightly
  472. 15:18different. It's called a change of
  473. 15:20character. It's on the 4-hour chart. But
  474. 15:21again, the core concepts of this
  475. 15:23movement on the chart are all exactly
  476. 15:25the same. When price stretches too high
  477. 15:27or too low, it's always going to revert.
  478. 15:29It's literally the core concept of
  479. 15:30trading, especially if you're trading
  480. 15:32quicker time frames. And just like the
  481. 15:349,000 strategy video test, this is the
  482. 15:37floor, not the ceiling, right? This is
  483. 15:39where you would start. These are setups
  484. 15:41that are average across every single
  485. 15:42version that we tested at one contract
  486. 15:45per trade. So, obviously, you can make a
  487. 15:46ton more, or you can just completely
  488. 15:48botch it and make a ton less, too. This
  489. 15:50isn't a finished strategy. It's a
  490. 15:52foundation that you build your own risk
  491. 15:54management and sizing on top of. Now, if
  492. 15:56you want to build this testing system
  493. 15:57yourself, it's the same format as
  494. 15:59always. The system is built in layers,
  495. 16:01and each layer is a separate prompt. So,
  496. 16:03again, if you're using ChatGPT or
  497. 16:05Claude, feel free to screenshot all of
  498. 16:07these prompts layer by layer, and it'll
  499. 16:09build out the same exact testing stack
  500. 16:11for you. So, the first layer just builds
  501. 16:13the data and then turns every price
  502. 16:14action rule into dials. The second here
  503. 16:17builds the trade engine with real costs
  504. 16:19and tests what price actually does at
  505. 16:21levels. The third runs every version
  506. 16:23through the funnel. The fourth runs the
  507. 16:25final test on the locked away data. And
  508. 16:27then the last one builds the dashboard
  509. 16:29that I've been basically presenting this
  510. 16:31whole entire time. And the bigger point
  511. 16:33here that I also stress on all my videos
  512. 16:35is that this isn't just about price
  513. 16:37action. Whatever style you trade, if it
  514. 16:39currently lives in your head as a feel,
  515. 16:41you can do the same exact thing here and
  516. 16:43automate it or just turn it into rules
  517. 16:45and find out if it holds up at scale
  518. 16:47with real numbers and data behind it.
  519. 16:49Now, if you enjoyed the video, make sure
  520. 16:50to leave a like, comment, and subscribe
  521. 16:52as it greatly helps out the channel. And
  522. 16:54if you do want to go deeper, like I
  523. 16:55mentioned, my community is in the
  524. 16:57description. And if you want to work
  525. 16:58one-on-one, there's also a link to book
  526. 17:00a call.

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