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City of Flagstaff City Council Meeting - October 20, 2026 — Transcript

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  1. 0:06All right, we're ready to get started.
  2. 0:08Today's Tuesday, October 20th, 2026, and
  3. 0:11it's the City Council's regular meeting.
  4. 0:13I'm calling it to order and giving
  5. 0:16notice to the council and to members of
  6. 0:18the public that at this meeting, the
  7. 0:20council may vote to go into executive
  8. 0:22session, which will not be open to the
  9. 0:24public for discussion and consultation
  10. 0:26with the city's attorneys for legal
  11. 0:28advice on any item listed on the
  12. 0:30following agenda.
  13. 0:32Can we have roll call?
  14. 0:33>> Mayor Daggett?
  15. 0:34>> Here.
  16. 0:35>> Vice Mayor Sweet?
  17. 0:36>> Here.
  18. 0:36>> Council member Aslan?
  19. 0:38>> Here.
  20. 0:38>> Council member House?
  21. 0:40>> Present.
  22. 0:40>> Council member Matthews?
  23. 0:43>> Here.
  24. 0:43>> Council member Spence?
  25. 0:44>> Here.
  26. 0:46>> Council member Spence, would you lead us
  27. 0:48in the Pledge of Allegiance?
  28. 1:10Council member Matthews, our mission
  29. 1:12statement.
  30. 1:14>> Absolutely. The mission of the City of
  31. 1:16Flagstaff is to enhance the quality of
  32. 1:18life for all.
  33. 1:20>> Thank you. Council member House?
  34. 1:24>> The Flagstaff City Council humbly
  35. 1:25acknowledges the ancestral homelands of
  36. 1:28this area's indigenous nations and
  37. 1:30original stewards.
  38. 1:31These lands, still inhabited by native
  39. 1:33descendants, border land mountains
  40. 1:36sacred to indigenous peoples. We honor
  41. 1:39them, their legacies, their traditions,
  42. 1:41and their continued contributions. We
  43. 1:43celebrate their past, present, and
  44. 1:45future generations who will forever know
  45. 1:48this place as home.
  46. 1:50>> Thank you.
  47. 1:52All right, next up we have the swearing
  48. 1:54in of Flagstaff of a Flagstaff City
  49. 1:57Council member. So, if you um
  50. 2:00Mr.
  51. 2:02soon-to-be Councilmember Malazzo, if you
  52. 2:04would come down here.
  53. 2:06And um
  54. 2:07do we leave the dais?
  55. 2:10Or do we stay here?
  56. 2:12All right.
  57. 2:17>> Please raise your right hand and repeat
  58. 2:19after me.
  59. 2:21I Moses Malazzo
  60. 2:23>> I Moses Malazzo
  61. 2:25>> solemnly swear
  62. 2:26>> solemnly swear
  63. 2:27>> that I will support the Constitution of
  64. 2:29the United States
  65. 2:31>> that I will support the Constitution of
  66. 2:32the United States
  67. 2:34>> and the Constitution and laws of the
  68. 2:37state of Arizona
  69. 2:38>> and the Constitution and laws of the
  70. 2:40state of Arizona
  71. 2:41>> and that I will bear true faith and
  72. 2:43allegiance to the same
  73. 2:45>> and that I will bear true faith and
  74. 2:47allegiance to the same
  75. 2:49>> and defend them against all enemies
  76. 2:51foreign and domestic
  77. 2:53>> and defend them against all enemies
  78. 2:55foreign and domestic
  79. 2:57>> and that I will faithfully and
  80. 2:58impartially
  81. 3:00>> and that I will faithfully and
  82. 3:01impartially
  83. 3:02>> discharge the duties of the office of
  84. 3:05Flagstaff City Councilmember
  85. 3:07>> discharge the duties of the office of
  86. 3:09Flagstaff City Councilmember
  87. 3:11>> according to the best of my ability
  88. 3:13>> according to the best of my ability
  89. 3:16>> so help me God or so I do affirm
  90. 3:18>> so I do affirm
  91. 3:20>> Congratulations.
  92. 3:23>> [applause]
  93. 3:27[applause]
  94. 4:00>> Welcome to the council. Now, let's get
  95. 4:01to work.
  96. 4:06>> [laughter]
  97. 4:08>> All right, next up we have open call to
  98. 4:11the public, which enables the public to
  99. 4:13address council about an item that is
  100. 4:15not on tonight's agenda. Comments
  101. 4:18related to items that are
  102. 4:20that are
  103. 4:21that are on the agenda will be taken at
  104. 4:24the time that the item is discussed. You
  105. 4:27have 3 minutes, and there is a clock
  106. 4:29here below me, so you can see how much
  107. 4:31time you have left, and I will start
  108. 4:34with James Lenoy.
  109. 4:39>> Uh James Lundy.
  110. 4:40>> Oh, Lundy.
  111. 4:41>> Yeah,
  112. 4:42my penmanship's not very good, I guess.
  113. 4:50>> Good afternoon. My name is James Lundy,
  114. 4:52and I live at 1750 North Fairway Drive.
  115. 4:55I've long followed the nearly
  116. 4:5650-year-old controversy over leaking
  117. 4:58Lake Elaine in Continental, and so I'm
  118. 5:00here today to speak in support of the
  119. 5:02proposed amendments to the water
  120. 5:03conservation ordinance, which was
  121. 5:05originally scheduled for today's agenda.
  122. 5:09It would take hours versus the 3 minutes
  123. 5:11allotted to describe Lake Elaine's
  124. 5:13fraught history. The basics are as
  125. 5:15follows.
  126. 5:16The lake began to leak almost from
  127. 5:18inception in the 1980s. The 50 lakeside
  128. 5:21owners sued, and Fairfield, which has
  129. 5:23succeeded Charles Keating as the
  130. 5:25property developer, signed a settlement
  131. 5:27agreement to maintain a 26-acre lake to
  132. 5:306845
  133. 5:32ft and keep it full in 1990.
  134. 5:35Fairfield then left Flagstaff and turned
  135. 5:37the HOA over to a volunteer board.
  136. 5:40Over the next 26 years, the lake
  137. 5:42continued to leak and require repairs,
  138. 5:44eventually using up more of
  139. 5:46Continental's contracted city water than
  140. 5:49either of the properties' two golf
  141. 5:50courses. Continental is Flagstaff
  142. 5:53Flagstaff area's only public golf
  143. 5:55course.
  144. 5:56The lakefront owners sued again in 2016,
  145. 5:59and by 2017,
  146. 6:01Continental quit putting water in the
  147. 6:02lake. In 2020, the Superior Court ruled
  148. 6:05that Continental
  149. 6:07must abide by the terms of the 1990
  150. 6:09settlement signed by Fairfield and fined
  151. 6:12it $700 a day until it started refilling
  152. 6:14the dry lake.
  153. 6:16Viewing the Supreme Court Superior Court
  154. 6:18decision to be practically and
  155. 6:20financially irresponsible, Continental
  156. 6:22filed for bankruptcy in 2021.
  157. 6:25Ultimately, the bankruptcy court
  158. 6:26endorsed Continental's position that the
  159. 6:281990 settlement agreement was an
  160. 6:30executory contract dischargeable in
  161. 6:33bankruptcy as an unsecured claim.
  162. 6:35This resulted in a new settlement in
  163. 6:37June of 2023 whereby the 2,395
  164. 6:41Continental homeowners passed an
  165. 6:43assessment of $2,000 per lot
  166. 6:47prepared a fund in order to address Lake
  167. 6:50Elaine and other obligations. The
  168. 6:53agreement contemplated that a reduced
  169. 6:55water feature consisting of smaller
  170. 6:57ponds, 13 acres, and could be built for
  171. 7:00about 2 and 1/2 not to exceed 2 and 1/2
  172. 7:02million dollars.
  173. 7:04Almost 3 and 1/2 years have elapsed and
  174. 7:06no final plan to effectuate the revised
  175. 7:08water feature plan has been made public,
  176. 7:11nor is the status of the permitting
  177. 7:13application with the Arizona Department
  178. 7:14of Water Resources clear.
  179. 7:16The water contract between Flagstaff and
  180. 7:18Continental for reclaimed water was
  181. 7:20renewed in 2019
  182. 7:22and 24 with no water designation for
  183. 7:25Lake Elaine. Rather, the uses described
  184. 7:28are for the golf courses and other
  185. 7:29community amenities.
  186. 7:31The proposed ordinance makes perfect
  187. 7:33sense in the history of this man-made
  188. 7:34lake constructed in a geologically
  189. 7:37difficult rocky drainage channel is not
  190. 7:39deserving of an exception. It's been dry
  191. 7:41for 8 years. The city should pass the
  192. 7:43ordinance with no legal lame carve out
  193. 7:46and leave the parties to come up with a
  194. 7:47restoration plan that does not go on
  195. 7:50wasting the city's water. Thank you.
  196. 7:53>> Thank you.
  197. 7:55Pamela Melton
  198. 8:03>> Mayor, council
  199. 8:06I'm speaking about proposition 405 fan
  200. 8:09financing only today.
  201. 8:12I have financing questions that still
  202. 8:14remain that I've already submitted. They
  203. 8:16are
  204. 8:17Does the analysis include the full
  205. 8:19proposed 40 million borrowing in a
  206. 8:21secondary property tax rate at 76 cents
  207. 8:25per 100 of assessed valuation every year
  208. 8:27through final repayment?
  209. 8:30Identify any year assuming a higher
  210. 8:32rate.
  211. 8:34How much repayment capacity becomes
  212. 8:36available as existing bonds retire? How
  213. 8:39much is already committed? And how much
  214. 8:41does the plan depend on continued growth
  215. 8:44in taxable assessed valuation?
  216. 8:47What interest rates, issuance dates, and
  217. 8:49repayment schedule does it assume?
  218. 8:54Has the city tested flat or declining
  219. 8:56valuation scenarios?
  220. 8:59What contingency plan applies if
  221. 9:01valuations, collections, or borrowing
  222. 9:04costs differ from those assumptions?
  223. 9:07Could general fund resources legally
  224. 9:09support repayment?
  225. 9:11If that possibility is anticipated, how
  226. 9:14would existing services be protected?
  227. 9:18What legally binding limit, if any,
  228. 9:20applies to the secondary property tax
  229. 9:22rate for these bonds?
  230. 9:25The statement that existing property tax
  231. 9:27rates would not increase does not itself
  232. 9:29establish a legally binding rate
  233. 9:32ceiling.
  234. 9:33Please answer each question in writing
  235. 9:35identifying supporting documents as soon
  236. 9:38as possible before the November 3rd
  237. 9:40elections,
  238. 9:41so that voters can review the answers
  239. 9:44before voting if they haven't already
  240. 9:46done so.
  241. 9:47This is a request for clarity about a
  242. 9:49long-term financial obligation. Thank
  243. 9:52you.
  244. 9:54>> Thank you. Danielle Adams.
  245. 10:06>> Madam Mayor, Madam Vice Mayor, members
  246. 10:10of Flagstaff City Council.
  247. 10:13My name is Dr. Danielle Adams, and I am
  248. 10:15the executive director of the Flagstaff
  249. 10:18Dark Skies Coalition.
  250. 10:20I'm here to say thank you.
  251. 10:23This Flagstaff City Council is the
  252. 10:25latest in a long line of Flagstaff
  253. 10:28governments that have decided to protect
  254. 10:31our star-filled sky
  255. 10:33in order to enhance our quality of life.
  256. 10:37Your actions preserve dark skies as a
  257. 10:40natural resource for the benefit of our
  258. 10:42ecosystem, our physical and mental
  259. 10:45health,
  260. 10:47astronomical discovery,
  261. 10:49and economic growth through
  262. 10:51astrotourism.
  263. 10:53In 1958, the city of Flagstaff, with
  264. 10:56support from astronomers at Lowell and
  265. 10:59the U.S. Naval Observatory, created the
  266. 11:02world's first ordinance protecting the
  267. 11:05night from artificial light.
  268. 11:08In 1989,
  269. 11:09first Coconino County,
  270. 11:12and then the city of Flagstaff, came out
  271. 11:14with the world's first comprehensive
  272. 11:17outdoor lighting codes to address the
  273. 11:20spectrum of light,
  274. 11:22its shielding, and its output. These
  275. 11:25remain the foundation of our lighting
  276. 11:28codes to this day.
  277. 11:30The tireless efforts of city staff keep
  278. 11:34our skies protected.
  279. 11:37Now, Flagstaff is nearly finished with
  280. 11:40its retrofit
  281. 11:42of some 4,000 streetlights to our
  282. 11:45current standard of narrow spectrum
  283. 11:47amber, setting an example for literally
  284. 11:51the rest of the world.
  285. 11:53In 2001, the city's efforts were
  286. 11:56formally recognized when Flagstaff
  287. 11:59became the world's first international
  288. 12:01dark sky city following a proposal from
  289. 12:05the Flagstaff Dark Skies Coalition.
  290. 12:08This Saturday, October 24th, marks 25
  291. 12:12years since the city of Flagstaff
  292. 12:15received that designation.
  293. 12:18We have been celebrating this
  294. 12:19anniversary all year long through free
  295. 12:22public events supported by BBB revenues
  296. 12:26granted to FDSC through Creative
  297. 12:28Flagstaff and a Flagstaff Beautification
  298. 12:31in Action Grant.
  299. 12:33Thousands of people
  300. 12:35came to these events, each one an
  301. 12:37example of how the city's BBB revenues
  302. 12:41come back to our residents. The final
  303. 12:43event is this fall's anniversary and
  304. 12:46this fall's celebration is our last full
  305. 12:49moon concert in Buffalo Park this
  306. 12:51Sunday.
  307. 12:52We also thank the Discover Flagstaff
  308. 12:54team for their promotion of these events
  309. 12:57across the year.
  310. 12:59Here's to our next 25 years under the
  311. 13:02Milky Way. Thank you so much.
  312. 13:06>> Thank you.
  313. 13:08Stephen Knutson
  314. 13:15>> Um, hello.
  315. 13:17I come before you again to practice and
  316. 13:19participate in democracy.
  317. 13:21And that's what we're doing here.
  318. 13:24Um, I come to ask my fellow citizens to
  319. 13:27vote down proposition 404 and 405.
  320. 13:31The city can come back to the people to
  321. 13:34the
  322. 13:35to the electorate when they have a
  323. 13:37better plan and a better paradigm.
  324. 13:41I looked at the word paradigm.
  325. 13:43What is a paradigm?
  326. 13:45A paradigm is a fundamental framework or
  327. 13:48set of concepts that shape how people
  328. 13:51view and interpret the world.
  329. 13:53A paradigm serves as a shared mental
  330. 13:57model.
  331. 13:59What is a paradigm shift?
  332. 14:02A paradigm shift is a fundamental a
  333. 14:04fundamental change in the basic concepts
  334. 14:07and practices of a society.
  335. 14:10It happens when existing ways of
  336. 14:12thinking are replaced by a whole new
  337. 14:15perspective.
  338. 14:17The city of Flagstaff requires a
  339. 14:20paradigm shift.
  340. 14:23We need to transition from business as
  341. 14:25usual to business unusual.
  342. 14:29Turn from a government of the people, by
  343. 14:32the people, for the Chamber of Commerce.
  344. 14:41I lost my place.
  345. 14:43Oh, to one dedicated to the common good.
  346. 14:47Who benefits from the 404 tax increase
  347. 14:51and the 405 debt?
  348. 14:53Members of the Chamber of Commerce do.
  349. 14:56Who get construction contracts or sell
  350. 14:58million-dollar vehicles.
  351. 15:02Who pays?
  352. 15:04The workers pay.
  353. 15:06The little man pays.
  354. 15:09And
  355. 15:10they indenture themselves by passing
  356. 15:12bonds.
  357. 15:14The $40 million debt
  358. 15:17to fund essentially what is a city
  359. 15:19shopping spree.
  360. 15:21Thank you.
  361. 15:23>> Thank you.
  362. 15:24Steven Poor.
  363. 15:38>> Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor,
  364. 15:40council members.
  365. 15:42I'm here to give you an update on the
  366. 15:43population forecast for your city.
  367. 15:46Last September, the
  368. 15:47Arizona state demographer
  369. 15:50who's located in the Arizona office of
  370. 15:52economic opportunity
  371. 15:54updated the growth for Flagstaff.
  372. 15:57And now they're projecting, as they were
  373. 15:59before, in 2055, Flagstaff's population
  374. 16:02will peak.
  375. 16:03This time it will peak at 1,964
  376. 16:07fewer people.
  377. 16:09The numbers are coming down, not up.
  378. 16:12And that number was 85,367.
  379. 16:16Or
  380. 16:1814,000 less than the water department
  381. 16:21forecast when we need Red Gap Ranch.
  382. 16:26And those numbers from the state do not
  383. 16:28include the recent decline in enrollment
  384. 16:31for this year at NAU, nor the forecasted
  385. 16:34decline in NAU
  386. 16:37over the coming 10-12 years.
  387. 16:40So, it's interesting though
  388. 16:42that there's also a forecast
  389. 16:44by your county members.
  390. 16:46And they're forecasting 20-year growth
  391. 16:48for the city of Flagstaff to average
  392. 16:500.37%.
  393. 16:53Ted higher than the state's 0.32.
  394. 16:59But the city's is four times that
  395. 17:01number.
  396. 17:021.4%. How could it be so off?
  397. 17:06There's no state demographer. I know
  398. 17:07they have a difficult job. But here you
  399. 17:10have
  400. 17:11taking 10 years of 10, 20 to 2020, and
  401. 17:15taking the average number.
  402. 17:17If you did that from the 60, 70, 80, 90
  403. 17:20and 2000.
  404. 17:21And took the last 10 year average, you'd
  405. 17:24miss every year. Not to mention the fact
  406. 17:26they're using 1.4.
  407. 17:29Out to 2070.
  408. 17:32Outrageous.
  409. 17:34You've had a forecast come before you
  410. 17:36that you paid a professional economist
  411. 17:39in November of 23 that said we're
  412. 17:41peaking in 2040. The state demographer
  413. 17:44is a bit kinder and says we're peaking.
  414. 17:45It's barely growing into 2055.
  415. 17:49So you have all this evidence. And my
  416. 17:51question is, this is only the third year
  417. 17:53I'm telling you about this.
  418. 17:55When are we ever going to have a
  419. 17:56conversation? You hear the people. You
  420. 17:59say you want to talk to the people.
  421. 18:02I'm waiting 3 years.
  422. 18:05These numbers are just getting worse for
  423. 18:06you.
  424. 18:07And you've approved over $5 million to
  425. 18:09spend on Red Gap Ranch since I began
  426. 18:12talking.
  427. 18:13When's this going to stop?
  428. 18:16The Red Gap Ranch for the people who
  429. 18:17don't know and the other construction
  430. 18:19projects related to water and sewer in
  431. 18:21this town. Amount to somewhere between
  432. 18:24550 and 600 million dollars. And those
  433. 18:27are the city's numbers, not mine.
  434. 18:29That's why it means so much.
  435. 18:31I hope someday in the future there could
  436. 18:33be a real conversation and we could
  437. 18:35really look at how we're going to spend
  438. 18:36our money here. Thank you.
  439. 18:39>> Thank you.
  440. 18:40Colleen Mering.
  441. 18:52>> Good afternoon mayor, vice mayor,
  442. 18:54council.
  443. 18:55My name is Colleen Mering. I'm the chief
  444. 18:57people officer at Northern Arizona
  445. 18:58Healthcare. I want to start by
  446. 19:00congratulating Dr. Moses Malazo on his
  447. 19:02appointment. We're so fortunate to have
  448. 19:05you as a council member. Um and you are
  449. 19:06probably confused as to why I'm here. So
  450. 19:08great opportunity for um me to uh
  451. 19:12uh remind um the council and the city
  452. 19:15why we do come actually at the
  453. 19:17suggestion of council member Matthews
  454. 19:19two years ago. We made a commitment to
  455. 19:21start attending as many regular council
  456. 19:23meetings as we can.
  457. 19:25You guys have work sessions all the
  458. 19:26time. We can't make it every time, but
  459. 19:29we try to be here at all the regular
  460. 19:30council meetings just like many of your
  461. 19:32staff departments to share updates and
  462. 19:34information that is hopefully helpful to
  463. 19:36your constituents and helps us meet our
  464. 19:39commitment to listen to and be visible
  465. 19:40in the communities we serve. We hope
  466. 19:43that and we know from the feedback from
  467. 19:46your constituents, our community members
  468. 19:48that folks do hear. This is one good
  469. 19:50communication channel for us to use.
  470. 19:53And so we try to come here with timely
  471. 19:55relevant updates for you
  472. 19:57and your constituents.
  473. 19:59So today we wanted to just share some
  474. 20:01information about gastroenterology
  475. 20:03services cuz there's been some confusion
  476. 20:06in the community over the last few
  477. 20:07years. The main we call it GI sometimes.
  478. 20:10The main gastroenterology group in town
  479. 20:13split apart. We were fortunate at NAH to
  480. 20:17be able to employ and retain Dr. Andrew
  481. 20:19Overheiser in the community and and
  482. 20:21welcome him to our um
  483. 20:23clinics in 2025. He's practiced in the
  484. 20:25community for a long time.
  485. 20:27But since that time another practice
  486. 20:31group in town opened a practice and then
  487. 20:34just in July closed that practice. And
  488. 20:36when they closed we had a lot of
  489. 20:37community members call us and say, "Oh
  490. 20:38my gosh, you don't have GI anymore.
  491. 20:40Everybody's closed. Everybody's gone."
  492. 20:42So we wanted to come here today and say,
  493. 20:43"No, no, no. We are here. We're open for
  494. 20:45business for gastroenterology services
  495. 20:47at at NAH."
  496. 20:50We've grown from a team of just Dr.
  497. 20:52Overheiser to 14 physicians and advanced
  498. 20:55practice providers who care for both
  499. 20:57inpatients and outpatients
  500. 20:59providing GI services. So I know it's
  501. 21:01created a lot of confusion and fear in
  502. 21:03the community because many of us have
  503. 21:04Flagstaff or Northern Arizona in our
  504. 21:06name. So there's a lot of confusion as
  505. 21:08to where you can get that care, Um um
  506. 21:10but we want to make sure that people uh
  507. 21:11can call Northern Arizona Healthcare or
  508. 21:13come to Flagstaff Medical Center um and
  509. 21:15get preventative screening on an
  510. 21:17outpatient basis or
  511. 21:19um our physicians and APPs provide
  512. 21:21really um
  513. 21:23uh
  514. 21:23some of the most complex GI services on
  515. 21:25our inpatient basis as well.
  516. 21:28Um thank you for this opportunity to um
  517. 21:31use public comment to communicate not
  518. 21:32only with you, but uh the entire
  519. 21:34community. We're really grateful um to
  520. 21:36be here. Thanks.
  521. 21:38>> Thank you.
  522. 21:49All right, we have three proclamations
  523. 21:51today. The first is United Against Hate
  524. 21:55Week, the second is Community Planning
  525. 21:57Month, and the third is Domestic
  526. 21:59Violence Awareness Month.
  527. 22:02So, I ask that if you are here for
  528. 22:05United Against Hate Week, um that you
  529. 22:08come down and join us here on the dais,
  530. 22:11and we'll take a photo after the
  531. 22:13proclamation is read, and then next
  532. 22:15we'll go straight into Community
  533. 22:17Planning Month.
  534. 23:07>> Thank you.
  535. 23:11>> [snorts]
  536. 23:13>> The city of Flagstaff is committed to
  537. 23:15fostering a welcoming, inclusive, and
  538. 23:18equitable community where all people are
  539. 23:20treated with dignity, respect, and
  540. 23:22compassion, regardless of race,
  541. 23:25ethnicity, religion, national origin,
  542. 23:28gender identity or expression, sexual
  543. 23:31orientation, age, ability.
  544. 23:34Our community is enriched by the
  545. 23:36diversity of residents, cultures,
  546. 23:38traditions, and perspectives. And this
  547. 23:41diversity is a source of strength that
  548. 23:43contributes to the vitality and
  549. 23:45resilience of Flagstaff.
  550. 23:48Acts of hate, discrimination, bias,
  551. 23:51harassment, and intimidation threaten
  552. 23:54the safety and well-being of individuals
  553. 23:56and families, undermine trust, and
  554. 23:59weaken the fabric of our community.
  555. 24:02United Against Hate Week is an
  556. 24:04opportunity for individuals, schools,
  557. 24:06businesses, nonprofit organizations,
  558. 24:09faith communities, and local governments
  559. 24:11to unite in rejecting hate and promoting
  560. 24:14kindness, understanding, belonging, and
  561. 24:16civic engagement.
  562. 24:18Creating a community where everyone
  563. 24:20feels safe, valued, and respected
  564. 24:23requires ongoing education, meaningful
  565. 24:26dialogue, and a shared commitment to
  566. 24:28standing up against prejudice and
  567. 24:30discrimination in all its forms.
  568. 24:33The city of Flagstaff recognizes that
  569. 24:36building a stronger community depends on
  570. 24:38each of us embracing our shared
  571. 24:40humanity, celebrating our differences,
  572. 24:43and working together to ensure that
  573. 24:45every resident can thrive.
  574. 24:47Now, therefore, I Mayor
  575. 24:52>> [clears throat]
  576. 24:52>> Let's try that again.
  577. 24:54Now, therefore, I Mayor Becky Daggett,
  578. 24:57Mayor of the City of Flagstaff, do
  579. 24:59hereby proclaim October 18th through
  580. 25:0124th, 2026 as United Against Hate Week,
  581. 25:06and encourage all residents, businesses,
  582. 25:09educational institutions, community
  583. 25:11organizations, and visitors to
  584. 25:13participate in activities that promote
  585. 25:15inclusion, respect, understanding, and
  586. 25:18belonging.
  587. 25:20>> [applause]
  588. 25:25[applause]
  589. 26:07[laughter]
  590. 26:09>> Well, my name is Roxana Cardiel,
  591. 26:11organizer for Northern Arizona
  592. 26:12Interfaith Council, and I'm so happy to
  593. 26:14be here today.
  594. 26:16I was just thinking about the state of
  595. 26:18our world, state of our country, our
  596. 26:19state,
  597. 26:21our county, our city, our neighborhoods,
  598. 26:23and
  599. 26:24how important it is in this moment to
  600. 26:27stand in the name of love. And I don't
  601. 26:28mean this as a vague term, but
  602. 26:31love is actionable.
  603. 26:33And this is one very simple way to make
  604. 26:34it actionable. And I invite every single
  605. 26:36one of you to consider how you
  606. 26:38are making it actionable in your own
  607. 26:40lives.
  608. 26:41Thank you.
  609. 26:44>> [applause]
  610. 26:47>> Greetings, beloved community.
  611. 26:51This
  612. 26:52may seem like not a big thing, but
  613. 26:56actually it is a very big thing.
  614. 27:00And the only thing that stamps out
  615. 27:03hatred
  616. 27:04is love.
  617. 27:06Love of community,
  618. 27:09love of self,
  619. 27:11love of our fellow human beings.
  620. 27:14And so, let this be a day that reminds
  621. 27:17us to be in love, be in love with
  622. 27:20ourselves, be in love with our
  623. 27:23community,
  624. 27:25and to just simply be in love. Thank you
  625. 27:29and bless you.
  626. 27:31>> [applause]
  627. 27:53>> All right. Yes, anyone here for
  628. 27:55Community Planning Week?
  629. 28:15>> [laughter]
  630. 28:41>> All right.
  631. 28:44Whereas sound community planning shapes
  632. 28:46how the people of Flagstaff, Arizona,
  633. 28:48work, live, and move through their city
  634. 28:51for generations to come.
  635. 28:53Planners bring data-driven insight and
  636. 28:56technical expertise to the choices
  637. 28:58communities make about growth, housing,
  638. 29:01transportation, and land use.
  639. 29:04Community planning succeeds when
  640. 29:06residents are meaningfully involved in
  641. 29:08shaping the future of their own
  642. 29:10neighborhoods and city.
  643. 29:12The full benefits of planning depend on
  644. 29:15elected and appointed officials who
  645. 29:17understand, support, and demand
  646. 29:20excellence in both planning and its
  647. 29:22implementation.
  648. 29:24The month of October is designated as
  649. 29:26National Community Planning Month
  650. 29:28throughout the United States of America
  651. 29:30and its territories.
  652. 29:32The American Planning Association
  653. 29:34designates National Community Planning
  654. 29:36Month to highlight planning's essential
  655. 29:39role in every community and planners'
  656. 29:41unique ability to solve the most
  657. 29:43pressing housing, transportation, and
  658. 29:45land use challenges facing our
  659. 29:48communities.
  660. 29:49National Community Planning Month offers
  661. 29:51Flagstaff the opportunity to publicly
  662. 29:54recognize the dedication of our
  663. 29:56appointed planning and zoning commission
  664. 29:58members and to thank the professional
  665. 30:00community planners of Flagstaff for
  666. 30:03their sustained commitment to public
  667. 30:05service and the improvement of our city.
  668. 30:08Now, therefore, I, Councilmember Kara
  669. 30:10House, on behalf of Mayor Becky Daggett,
  670. 30:13Mayor of the City of Flagstaff, Arizona,
  671. 30:15do hereby proclaim October 2026 as
  672. 30:19Community Planning Month.
  673. 30:22>> [applause]
  674. 30:27[applause]
  675. 30:35>> Wait. Wait.
  676. 30:45>> Thank you.
  677. 30:59>> I wrote it down just so I wouldn't speak
  678. 31:01too long, but I just want to reiterate
  679. 31:03that community planning matters because
  680. 31:05it helps shape some neighborhoods grow
  681. 31:07in ways that balance housing,
  682. 31:09multi-modal transportation,
  683. 31:11jobs, green space, and public services
  684. 31:14so people can live well.
  685. 31:15It also gives residents a voice in the
  686. 31:17process
  687. 31:19to help shape the community in a way
  688. 31:20that reflects the community's needs and
  689. 31:22the values. And I really want to
  690. 31:24recognize the people standing up here
  691. 31:25behind me, the people who weren't able
  692. 31:27to make it, planning and zoning
  693. 31:29commission, and a lot of city staff, and
  694. 31:31other members of our community that show
  695. 31:33up every day to help shape our community
  696. 31:35and make Flagstaff one of the best
  697. 31:37places to live. Thanks.
  698. 31:40>> [applause]
  699. 31:52[clears throat]
  700. 32:10[clears throat]
  701. 32:19>> Where's your apron?
  702. 32:20>> How you doing? I know.
  703. 32:30>> October is annually recognized as
  704. 32:33National Domestic Violence Awareness
  705. 32:35Month.
  706. 32:36Domestic violence is a pattern of
  707. 32:38behavior of violence and intimidation
  708. 32:40for the purpose of gaining power and
  709. 32:42control over an intimate partner.
  710. 32:45Although progress has been made toward
  711. 32:47preventing and ending domestic violence
  712. 32:49and providing support for survivors and
  713. 32:51their families, important work remains
  714. 32:54to be done.
  715. 32:55More than 12 million people in the in
  716. 32:57the United States are victims of sexual
  717. 32:59assault, physical violence, or stalking
  718. 33:02by an intimate partner each year,
  719. 33:04including roughly one in four women and
  720. 33:07one in seven men.
  721. 33:08More than 11,000 victims lost their
  722. 33:11lives to domestic violence in the United
  723. 33:13States between 2020 and 2024.
  724. 33:17Domestic violence affects people of all
  725. 33:19genders, sexual orientations, ages,
  726. 33:23racial, ethnic, cultural, social,
  727. 33:26religious, and economic groups.
  728. 33:29Domestic violence within a family
  729. 33:31increases the risk of other violence in
  730. 33:33the home, including child abuse.
  731. 33:36Approximately 25% of all children
  732. 33:39witness domestic domestic violence
  733. 33:41during their childhood, having potential
  734. 33:43long-term consequences, including
  735. 33:45difficulty at school, substance abuse,
  736. 33:48behavioral problems, and serious adult
  737. 33:51health problems.
  738. 33:53The Flagstaff Police Department
  739. 33:54responded to 1,939
  740. 33:57incidents classified as domestic
  741. 34:00violence in 2025.
  742. 34:03Survivors of domestic violence exhibit
  743. 34:05amazing courage, strength, and
  744. 34:07determination in the aftermath of such
  745. 34:10violence and deserve support and access
  746. 34:12to culturally responsive,
  747. 34:15trauma-informed programs, and services
  748. 34:17to increase their safety and
  749. 34:19self-sufficiency.
  750. 34:21The City of Flagstaff encourages all
  751. 34:23community members to work to support
  752. 34:25survivors of domestic violence and the
  753. 34:28efforts of community organizations that
  754. 34:30provide community education and
  755. 34:32outreach, as well as services and
  756. 34:35support to survivors of domestic
  757. 34:37violence.
  758. 34:38Now, therefore, I, Vice Mayor Miranda
  759. 34:41Sweet, on behalf of Mayor Becky Daggett,
  760. 34:44Mayor of the City of Flagstaff, do
  761. 34:46hereby proclaim October 2026
  762. 34:50as Domestic Violence Awareness Month
  763. 34:53in Flagstaff, Arizona, and call upon the
  764. 34:55citizens of Flagstaff to join law
  765. 34:57enforcement, victim advocacy groups, and
  766. 35:01other local organizations to make our
  767. 35:03community a safe and supportive place
  768. 35:06for all families. To further acknowledge
  769. 35:08and support Domestic Violence Month, the
  770. 35:11city will raise the Domestic Violence
  771. 35:13Awareness Flag in front of City Hall for
  772. 35:15the month of October 2026.
  773. 35:20>> [applause]
  774. 35:40>> Hi everyone. My name's Kelly Wells with
  775. 35:42Sharon Manor. I just wanted to say a
  776. 35:44quick few things.
  777. 35:46Um,
  778. 35:47thank you, Mayor, [clears throat] Vice
  779. 35:48Mayor, Council members for taking the
  780. 35:51time to recognize October as Domestic
  781. 35:53Violence Awareness Month.
  782. 35:56As um, Vice Mayor said in the
  783. 35:58proclamation, domestic violence doesn't
  784. 36:01discriminate. It doesn't matter where
  785. 36:03you work, what you drive, where you
  786. 36:06live, or how much money you make,
  787. 36:09or how you identify.
  788. 36:11>> [snorts]
  789. 36:12[cough]
  790. 36:12[clears throat]
  791. 36:12>> This could be your mother, brother, or
  792. 36:14friend.
  793. 36:16The best thing that we can do in in our
  794. 36:18community to support survivors of
  795. 36:20domestic violence is to familiarize
  796. 36:23yourself with our local services.
  797. 36:26Um, when somebody discloses domestic
  798. 36:29violence to you, the best thing you can
  799. 36:31do is be a kind listening ear. You don't
  800. 36:34have to have the right things to say,
  801. 36:36but you can know the services and where
  802. 36:38you can send people to get the right
  803. 36:41help. Um, so big kudos to Victim Witness
  804. 36:46of Northern Arizona, Northland Family
  805. 36:48Help Center, NACOSA, and then Sharon
  806. 36:52Manor.
  807. 36:53>> Thank you.
  808. 36:54>> [applause]
  809. 37:42>> Next up, we have council liaison reports
  810. 37:45and I will start with council member
  811. 37:48Matthews.
  812. 37:50>> I have nothing tonight to report.
  813. 37:56>> You don't have commissions yet, so I
  814. 37:59will pass over you, council member
  815. 38:01Aslan.
  816. 38:02>> Nothing for me as well.
  817. 38:05>> Vice Mayor.
  818. 38:07>> I have a couple of quick things. Um,
  819. 38:09last week I attended the Northern
  820. 38:11Arizona Municipal Water User Association
  821. 38:13meeting.
  822. 38:15That's a mouthful. And they had a great
  823. 38:17presentation from Neha from UVA.
  824. 38:20And it was a report regarding recharge
  825. 38:23and water reliab- reliability. And I
  826. 38:26know the presentation lives
  827. 38:28somewhere. And if Council, if you would
  828. 38:29like to take a look at it, please let me
  829. 38:31know and I'll make sure to forward it to
  830. 38:33you.
  831. 38:34Tomorrow, there is a Mountainline Board
  832. 38:36Retreat. And following that, I will be
  833. 38:38leaving for Eagar, Arizona
  834. 38:41for the annual on the road tour for
  835. 38:45Northern Arizona Council of Governments.
  836. 38:48And then Friday, there is an all-day
  837. 38:49retreat for the Beautification and
  838. 38:51Public Art Commission.
  839. 38:53So, needless to say, I'm busy with
  840. 38:56all-day meetings.
  841. 38:58>> Council Member House.
  842. 39:00>> Nothing this week. Thank you, Mayor.
  843. 39:02>> Council Member Spence.
  844. 39:03>> Nothing this evening. Thank you.
  845. 39:06>> Thank you.
  846. 39:14Okay. Um
  847. 39:16before we move into
  848. 39:19our
  849. 39:21uh regular agenda,
  850. 39:23um beginning with appointments,
  851. 39:26I would ask that we all
  852. 39:30take a moment of silence
  853. 39:33for a lost um member of the the city
  854. 39:38community and the greater community um
  855. 39:44Firefighter
  856. 39:46and Chief
  857. 39:48uh
  858. 39:50Paul Oldtrogi. Um we received word that
  859. 39:54um we lost him last week. And I know
  860. 39:58many of us have been reeling since that
  861. 40:01time. And if we could um
  862. 40:05just pause for a minute, take a moment
  863. 40:07of silence, and remember Paul and think
  864. 40:12about his family
  865. 40:14and the rest of the fire community, um,
  866. 40:17which is a very tight-knit
  867. 40:19community, um, I would appreciate it.
  868. 40:22Thank you.
  869. 40:48Thank you.
  870. 40:52All right, moving down to appointments.
  871. 40:57The first, um,
  872. 40:58actually we are going to skip over
  873. 41:00beautification and public art commission
  874. 41:03and we will have that on a future
  875. 41:05agenda. So, then we are moving down to
  876. 41:08the airport commission.
  877. 41:10And I am the first.
  878. 41:13And let me see where I put
  879. 41:15my notes on that.
  880. 41:24All right.
  881. 41:29So, I would like to move
  882. 41:32that
  883. 41:34we appoint Charles Ogden
  884. 41:38to the airport commission.
  885. 41:42I'll second.
  886. 41:45Any discussion?
  887. 41:46All those in favor?
  888. 41:48I.
  889. 41:48>> I.
  890. 41:49>> Any opposed? All right, Vice Mayor.
  891. 41:53>> Thank you. I briefly want to say that
  892. 41:56we, I think we had 19 applicants to this
  893. 42:00commission and I was just wowed by all
  894. 42:02of them.
  895. 42:03Um, I
  896. 42:04I did reach out to most of them and was
  897. 42:07able to talk.
  898. 42:08And, um, because of this person's
  899. 42:12very uh, excitement about our our
  900. 42:16airport. He has flown in and out of
  901. 42:18Flagstaff over 60 times and has done a
  902. 42:21lot of research regarding our airport. I
  903. 42:23move that we appoint Stefanos, and I
  904. 42:25might get this wrong, Antoniadis
  905. 42:29to the Airport Commission.
  906. 42:32>> I'll second.
  907. 42:34>> Any discussion?
  908. 42:36All those in favor?
  909. 42:37>> I.
  910. 42:37>> I.
  911. 42:39Any opposed?
  912. 42:40All right, then we're moving down to
  913. 42:42Parks and Recreation, and the first to
  914. 42:45make an appointment is Council Member
  915. 42:47Aslan.
  916. 42:49>> Madam Mayor Council, last week we had a
  917. 42:51very long busy week um looking through
  918. 42:54many applications and doing interviews.
  919. 42:56One of the things that was stated uh
  920. 42:59several times during the whole process
  921. 43:01is that um
  922. 43:02our hope was for those who went through
  923. 43:05that process
  924. 43:06would would find other ways to serve on
  925. 43:09uh the city of Flagstaff, including on
  926. 43:12commissions, and we just happened to
  927. 43:14have one of our applicants who is
  928. 43:17applying for a commission today as well.
  929. 43:19So, I would like to nominate Drew
  930. 43:21Stanley to the Parks and Recreation
  931. 43:23Commission.
  932. 43:26>> I'll second.
  933. 43:28>> Any discussion?
  934. 43:29All those in favor?
  935. 43:31>> I.
  936. 43:31>> I.
  937. 43:32>> Any opposed?
  938. 43:34All right, Council Member Matthews.
  939. 43:36>> Thank you, Mayor. Um
  940. 43:38yes, we had um
  941. 43:40four really great applicants. Um I know
  942. 43:43that Park and Rec's is looking for
  943. 43:46people with [clears throat] some
  944. 43:46strengths and an understanding
  945. 43:49um
  946. 43:50the color of money,
  947. 43:51where it comes from, and uh just the
  948. 43:54overall picture of how uh that
  949. 43:58department functions and where they get
  950. 44:00their money from.
  951. 44:01Um and because of that um I am
  952. 44:05recommending Joel
  953. 44:07Fritzler um to a um
  954. 44:11to appoint him as commissioner.
  955. 44:16>> I'll second.
  956. 44:18>> Any discussion?
  957. 44:19All those in favor?
  958. 44:21>> I.
  959. 44:21>> I.
  960. 44:22>> I.
  961. 44:22>> Any opposed?
  962. 44:24All right. Thank you, and thank you to
  963. 44:26all the applicants. It is wonderful to
  964. 44:29have um
  965. 44:31so many
  966. 44:33very qualified people to choose from.
  967. 44:36All right. So, down to nine liquor
  968. 44:39license public hearing.
  969. 44:41I am opening the public hearing for this
  970. 44:44first one, which is A, and
  971. 44:50uh
  972. 44:51Jessica, please.
  973. 44:53>> My name is Jessica Kelly, acting deputy
  974. 44:55city clerk. Before you today are two
  975. 44:56liquor license applications. The full
  976. 44:59packet material was included in the
  977. 45:00agenda packets for review. For
  978. 45:02conciseness and motioning, I will
  979. 45:03provide the information for the licenses
  980. 45:05together.
  981. 45:06Park Drive is a series 12 restaurant
  982. 45:09located at 6 East Aspen Avenue. The
  983. 45:11agent is Benjamin Scott Wakefield, and
  984. 45:13the managers handling the day-to-day
  985. 45:14operations are Benjamin Wakefield and
  986. 45:17Dane Wallace. The second one is
  987. 45:19Maverick, series 10, which is a beer and
  988. 45:21wine store license located at 4190
  989. 45:24Butler Avenue. The agent is Lauren K.
  990. 45:26Merritt, and the manager handling the
  991. 45:28day-to-day operations is Kelly Ann
  992. 45:30Beran.
  993. 45:31The police department and planning
  994. 45:33development services have conducted
  995. 45:34their respective investigations, and the
  996. 45:36reports are included in the agenda
  997. 45:37packet, and there are representatives
  998. 45:39from the divisions here to answer any
  999. 45:41questions you may have. Representatives
  1000. 45:43from the business have also been invited
  1001. 45:44to attend the hearing today.
  1002. 45:47>> Thank you. And I believe I misspoke when
  1003. 45:49I said I was opening up the public
  1004. 45:51hearing. I see you whispering down
  1005. 45:53there. Um what I meant to say was I'm
  1006. 45:56opening the public hearing for both of
  1007. 45:57these items, not just the first one. So,
  1008. 46:00we have the staff presentation. Now
  1009. 46:02Council, do you have any questions?
  1010. 46:10Do we have any public comment?
  1011. 46:13I'm closing the public hearing and
  1012. 46:15Council,
  1013. 46:17we can deliberate or someone can make a
  1014. 46:19motion for item A.
  1015. 46:24>> Mayor, I will move that we forward the
  1016. 46:26application to the state with a
  1017. 46:27recommendation for approval.
  1018. 46:32>> I'll second.
  1019. 46:34>> Any discussion?
  1020. 46:36All those in favor? I.
  1021. 46:38>> I.
  1022. 46:38>> I.
  1023. 46:38>> I.
  1024. 46:39>> Any opposed?
  1025. 46:41All right, moving down to B, looking for
  1026. 46:43a motion.
  1027. 46:47>> I will move to forward the application
  1028. 46:49to the state with a recommendation for
  1029. 46:50approval.
  1030. 46:52>> I'll second.
  1031. 46:53>> Discussion?
  1032. 46:55All those in favor?
  1033. 46:56I.
  1034. 46:57>> I.
  1035. 46:58>> Any opposed?
  1036. 46:59All right, thank you very much. Thank
  1037. 47:02you.
  1038. 47:03Moving down to the consent agenda.
  1039. 47:06All matters under the consent agenda are
  1040. 47:08considered by the City Council to be
  1041. 47:09routine unless a member of the City
  1042. 47:12Council expresses a desire at the
  1043. 47:15meeting to remove an item from the
  1044. 47:16consent agenda for discussion, the
  1045. 47:19consent agenda will be enacted by one
  1046. 47:21motion approving the recommendations
  1047. 47:23listed on the agenda and unless
  1048. 47:26otherwise indicated expenditures
  1049. 47:28approved by Council are budgeted items.
  1050. 47:30And I would like also like to
  1051. 47:33mention because the question does come
  1052. 47:35up if a community member has a question
  1053. 47:37about something that is on the consent
  1054. 47:39agenda, we can also pull it to
  1055. 47:43um
  1056. 47:43to have a discussion about it. So we
  1057. 47:45have just one item on the consent agenda
  1058. 47:49today.
  1059. 47:52And
  1060. 47:53I'm looking for a motion.
  1061. 47:55>> Mayor, I will move to approve the
  1062. 47:57consent agenda as posted.
  1063. 47:59>> I'll second.
  1064. 48:00>> Discussion?
  1065. 48:01All those in favor?
  1066. 48:02>> I.
  1067. 48:02>> I.
  1068. 48:04>> Opposed? Okay, now we're down to routine
  1069. 48:06items. First is 11A,
  1070. 48:10consideration and possible action
  1071. 48:12regarding executive session of October
  1072. 48:1520th, 2026.
  1073. 48:20>> Mayor, I move to direct and authorize
  1074. 48:23the city attorney and/or designated city
  1075. 48:25representative to proceed as discussed
  1076. 48:27in the executive session of October
  1077. 48:2920th, 2026, items 5AI and 5BI.
  1078. 48:35>> I'll second.
  1079. 48:37>> Discussion?
  1080. 48:38All those in favor?
  1081. 48:39>> I.
  1082. 48:39>> I.
  1083. 48:40>> Any opposed? All right, thank you.
  1084. 48:43Moving down to B, consideration and
  1085. 48:46approval of purchase.
  1086. 49:13>> Good evening, Mayor. Um I have a
  1087. 49:15presentation for for the next item, so I
  1088. 49:18didn't know if there was going to be
  1089. 49:19discussion for this one, but I'm ready
  1090. 49:21for both or however you would like to to
  1091. 49:24do this.
  1092. 49:32>> Let's uh let's go ahead with B because I
  1093. 49:35don't think that there will be questions
  1094. 49:37about that.
  1095. 49:39Um so, Council, I'm looking for a motion
  1096. 49:42on 11B.
  1097. 49:44>> Mayor, I move that we approve the
  1098. 49:47purchase of one 2027
  1099. 49:50Chevy Chevrolet Blazer EV in the amount
  1100. 49:53of $44,143.22
  1101. 49:56for the fire department inspector and
  1102. 49:58one Chevrolet Silverado EV in the amount
  1103. 50:01of $65,561.12
  1104. 50:04for engineering transportation both from
  1105. 50:07Sans Chevrolet and authorize the city
  1106. 50:09manager to execute the necessary
  1107. 50:11documents.
  1108. 50:14>> I'll second.
  1109. 50:16>> Discussion?
  1110. 50:17All those in favor?
  1111. 50:18>> Aye.
  1112. 50:19>> Aye.
  1113. 50:19>> Aye.
  1114. 50:20>> Any opposed?
  1115. 50:21All right. So, moving down to C and
  1116. 50:24thank you. Um, please go ahead.
  1117. 50:26>> All right. Good evening, mayor and
  1118. 50:28council members. Um, congratulations,
  1119. 50:30Council Member Milazzo. Welcome Welcome
  1120. 50:32to the table.
  1121. 50:34Um, so I am here to discuss our fleet
  1122. 50:37selection process. So, this next item
  1123. 50:40um, we are looking at approving nine
  1124. 50:42patrol Ford vehicles. So, they're called
  1125. 50:45the patrol Ford police interceptor
  1126. 50:47utility hybrid version. Um, I kind of
  1127. 50:50wanted to discuss what our process is.
  1128. 50:52So, how do we get to How do I get to
  1129. 50:55this table? How do I get to talking to
  1130. 50:57you? What's that process in advance?
  1131. 51:00Um, so what we do is we require every
  1132. 51:03division that is requesting a vehicle to
  1133. 51:07talk to the fleet manager, the fleet
  1134. 51:09section director, that division with
  1135. 51:11sustainability. What we do is we talk
  1136. 51:14about what the division's operational
  1137. 51:16needs are.
  1138. 51:17Um, in this room we talk about what's
  1139. 51:19needed. Um, we talk about our fleet
  1140. 51:22directive that has been um, newly
  1141. 51:24instituted. Um, but what our goal is is
  1142. 51:28to prioritize electric vehicles. So, the
  1143. 51:31step is Can we meet Can we purchase an
  1144. 51:34electric vehicle? Can we do the job? Can
  1145. 51:36that division do the job with an
  1146. 51:37electric vehicle? If they can't, then we
  1147. 51:40provide that division with different
  1148. 51:42options. So, let's look at a plug-in
  1149. 51:44hybrid. Um, a perfect example of a
  1150. 51:46plug-in hybrid would be one of our motor
  1151. 51:48pool vehicles. The motor pool vehicle is
  1152. 51:50a plug-in hybrid so that we can issue
  1153. 51:53that vehicle out to other divisions to
  1154. 51:55take it out to Phoenix, to take it to
  1155. 51:57Las Vegas, to take it out of town. Um,
  1156. 52:00but it provides the best of both worlds
  1157. 52:02because it is still electric vehicle,
  1158. 52:04um, but it is also an internal
  1159. 52:05combustion engine. Um, the next if that
  1160. 52:08doesn't meet the operation or their
  1161. 52:10tasks, then we move to a hybrid option.
  1162. 52:13So, a hybrid option would be similar to
  1163. 52:15this police Ford patrol unit. Um, it's
  1164. 52:18hybrid so if they're out driving around
  1165. 52:20doing their job duties, that vehicle and
  1166. 52:22if it's idling, the vehicle will stop
  1167. 52:24and not put out those emissions. Um, and
  1168. 52:27then unfortunately sometimes we do have
  1169. 52:29to go with a gas only either because an
  1170. 52:31electric vehicle hybrid plug-in are not
  1171. 52:34available or they will not meet the
  1172. 52:36operation of the operational duties of
  1173. 52:39that position. So, that's kind of the
  1174. 52:41process of what we do. We sit down
  1175. 52:43again, it's the fleet manager,
  1176. 52:45sustainability, and that division that's
  1177. 52:46requesting these vehicles.
  1178. 52:49Um,
  1179. 52:50but what we're doing right now is we're
  1180. 52:51requesting nine patrol vehicles for the
  1181. 52:54police department. How do we get here?
  1182. 52:56What is What does a day look like in a
  1183. 52:58patrol vehicle? Um, so these vehicles
  1184. 53:00are shared up to 76 patrol officers
  1185. 53:03whether they're patrol officers,
  1186. 53:04corporals, or sergeants that are out on
  1187. 53:05the road. Um, these vehicles run nearly
  1188. 53:08all day long. So, what we call the term
  1189. 53:10is a hot seat or they're 24/7. Um,
  1190. 53:14typically an officer will be out on the
  1191. 53:15road and then they come off the road
  1192. 53:18basically handing the vehicle keys to
  1193. 53:20the next officer that's going to handle
  1194. 53:22the swing shift or graveyard shift. So,
  1195. 53:24these vehicles are operated every day.
  1196. 53:27Um, they have a average of 300 miles per
  1197. 53:30week. They have a heavy equipment load.
  1198. 53:33So, what does that mean? That means that
  1199. 53:34there's patrol lights in there. There's
  1200. 53:36a patrol radio.
  1201. 53:37Um, there's sev- several different
  1202. 53:40pieces to make it a patrol vehicle that
  1203. 53:42we have to add that takes up energy and
  1204. 53:44battery usage. On occasion, they tow
  1205. 53:46vehicles, but not typically. Usually, we
  1206. 53:48use other vehicles for that. Um and then
  1207. 53:50they also have off-road um and winter
  1208. 53:53use. So, obviously, we are in Flagstaff.
  1209. 53:55We do get snow. I'm I'm fearing for a
  1210. 53:57big snow, but excited at the same time.
  1211. 54:00Um but then off-road. So, sometimes they
  1212. 54:02do have interagency where they go out
  1213. 54:04with the Sheriff's Department. They help
  1214. 54:05the Sheriff's Department, and they are
  1215. 54:07in forest service roads. They also need
  1216. 54:09to be pursuit-rated. So, patrol units
  1217. 54:12must be rated for pursuit and emergency
  1218. 54:14response if needed.
  1219. 54:17All right. So, now we're going to apply
  1220. 54:19the directive to patrol. How does this
  1221. 54:21look? Again, we kind of discussed it,
  1222. 54:23but for patrol vehicles and what we did
  1223. 54:26with this is this started in September
  1224. 54:30of last year.
  1225. 54:31Um how this works is the division gets
  1226. 54:34with fleet manager, sustainability, and
  1227. 54:36they put in a request. We're actually
  1228. 54:37working on this right now for next year.
  1229. 54:40Um so, you can tell you can see how long
  1230. 54:42this process is. So, we'll start in
  1231. 54:44September. They give us a list of
  1232. 54:46vehicles. So, these vehicles are for
  1233. 54:48replacement only.
  1234. 54:50Um
  1235. 54:50we go through, we discuss it, and we we
  1236. 54:53talk to the Police Department and say,
  1237. 54:54"Okay, is there any viability for
  1238. 54:56electric?"
  1239. 54:57Um right now there's no infrastructure.
  1240. 54:59We're looking at infrastructure. They do
  1241. 55:00have chargers out there, but they're
  1242. 55:02level one chargers. They are not fast
  1243. 55:04chargers. Um so, we do need to get that
  1244. 55:06infrastructure.
  1245. 55:08Um and then we looked at is there a
  1246. 55:10plug-in hybrid? Similar to the van we
  1247. 55:12have for motor pool. We also have them
  1248. 55:14for Toyotas um that are plug-in hybrid.
  1249. 55:17However, there are no pursuit-rated
  1250. 55:18plug-in hybrids on the market today.
  1251. 55:21So, then we have selected the Ford
  1252. 55:25Police Interceptor Utility Vehicle.
  1253. 55:28Um it is all-wheel drive, which is
  1254. 55:30amazing. Um before we were driving the
  1255. 55:32old Crown Vics, was not two-wheel drive,
  1256. 55:33is front-wheel drive, and you could see
  1257. 55:35all the officers on the side of the
  1258. 55:36road. Um typically, it was me trying to
  1259. 55:38pull them out or calling the tow truck.
  1260. 55:40Um, so the all-wheel drive has been
  1261. 55:41really, um, helped the police
  1262. 55:43department, especially in our weather
  1263. 55:45and in in Flagstaff environment.
  1264. 55:48The battery runs equipment with the
  1265. 55:49engine off at idle.
  1266. 55:51So, when you see officers out on a
  1267. 55:53accident or they're out on a a major
  1268. 55:56crime scene, those vehicles sometimes
  1269. 55:59have to be on. However, the bat the idle
  1270. 56:02will turn off. Um, and then when the
  1271. 56:04energy when it needs the energy, it'll
  1272. 56:06turn back on for a short time. So, this
  1273. 56:08is the best practice. We also have the
  1274. 56:11option of gas only. Um, there are Ford
  1275. 56:14does provide a, um, internal combustion
  1276. 56:17engine. Um,
  1277. 56:19but we don't need to go that way, right?
  1278. 56:21Because the hybrid is available. So, I'd
  1279. 56:23rather have a hybrid that will turn off
  1280. 56:26and on when needed.
  1281. 56:28So, that's kind of the process of how we
  1282. 56:29got there.
  1283. 56:30So, now the replacement request. Last
  1284. 56:32September, the police department
  1285. 56:34submitted for nine internal combustion
  1286. 56:36engine patrol vehicles to be replaced.
  1287. 56:38And actually, it was
  1288. 56:40eight and one got damaged in an
  1289. 56:42accident, um, which was totaled. So,
  1290. 56:44this kind of tells you the it breaks
  1291. 56:46down the timeline.
  1292. 56:48Um, in September, they requested these
  1293. 56:49nine. They met with the fleet manager,
  1294. 56:51the fleet director, and then
  1295. 56:53sustainability as well approved it to
  1296. 56:55get through the replacement criteria.
  1297. 56:58That replacement criteria, just for your
  1298. 57:01knowledge, is for patrol vehicles, it's
  1299. 57:037 years 120 thousand miles for, um,
  1300. 57:08SUVs and then 6 years 120 miles for
  1301. 57:11sedans.
  1302. 57:12Um, and then
  1303. 57:14what happens is we then go through the
  1304. 57:16fleet management committee for the
  1305. 57:18upcoming budget year. Fleet management
  1306. 57:20committee approves that.
  1307. 57:22Um, some of those questions are did it
  1308. 57:24go through sustainability? Did we talk
  1309. 57:26about electric vehicles? Is this a
  1310. 57:28possibility? Um, typically we we tell
  1311. 57:31them it what we talked about with the
  1312. 57:33division and this one there was no
  1313. 57:35possibility of it right now.
  1314. 57:37Um so
  1315. 57:39it got approved funded in 26 27 budget
  1316. 57:42and then the we did an IFB. We had seven
  1317. 57:45bids that were received and we procure
  1318. 57:48we would like to procure these vehicles
  1319. 57:49with the lowest responsive bid.
  1320. 57:53All right. So I know you guys are all
  1321. 57:55interested in what is our path to
  1322. 57:56electric patrol vehicles. It is heavy on
  1323. 57:59my mind. It's heavy on fleet managers
  1324. 58:01mind.
  1325. 58:02Um
  1326. 58:03we have done a evaluation of a Chevy
  1327. 58:07Blazer SUV patrol pursuit rated vehicle.
  1328. 58:12I took it out actually for a day with a
  1329. 58:15police officer. Um he was a corporal. We
  1330. 58:17went out. We went for a ride and I kind
  1331. 58:21of sort of mocked it up to be a police
  1332. 58:22car. We had lights as much as I could
  1333. 58:25with with the equipment that I had. So
  1334. 58:28we went out for an entire day and he's
  1335. 58:31like, "Jen, I just don't know." I said,
  1336. 58:32"Just give it give it a chance. Let's
  1337. 58:34see how it goes."
  1338. 58:36Um
  1339. 58:37and it performed remarkably well.
  1340. 58:39However, we came back and there was no
  1341. 58:42infrastructure available. All the
  1342. 58:44vehicles that the police department has
  1343. 58:46that are electric were using all the
  1344. 58:48chargers, which is a great sign, right?
  1345. 58:51Um meaning that they're being used.
  1346. 58:52However, I don't have the infrastructure
  1347. 58:54to make sure that I have a patrol
  1348. 58:55vehicle ready for the police officers.
  1349. 58:58Um I am working on it. The fleet manager
  1350. 59:00and I are are trying to come up with
  1351. 59:02plans. We're working with
  1352. 59:03sustainability, but we need to make sure
  1353. 59:05that we're setting ourselves up for
  1354. 59:07success. Um we need to make sure that we
  1355. 59:09have chargers available for those
  1356. 59:11vehicles to be charged. As soon as an
  1357. 59:14officer gets off of duty, they're
  1358. 59:15charging it and it's ready for two
  1359. 59:17shifts ahead, right? Um because we don't
  1360. 59:19have enough vehicles to be able to
  1361. 59:21assign a vehicle for each officer.
  1362. 59:24Um and then my biggest thing is is that
  1363. 59:26we continue to rerun these directives
  1364. 59:28next year. So we're going through the
  1365. 59:30same process. The police department is
  1366. 59:31going to ask for probably another six or
  1367. 59:33seven vehicles.
  1368. 59:34Um, and we're going to ask them again.
  1369. 59:37Can we do an electric vehicle? How do we
  1370. 59:40do this? Can we try one? You know, or
  1371. 59:42can we add another one and keep it in as
  1372. 59:45a prototype? And now we have one in our
  1373. 59:47vehicle, but at the same time looking at
  1374. 59:50how we fund charging. Um, how do we get
  1375. 59:52charging at the police department? So,
  1376. 59:54that's kind of our path for electric
  1377. 59:56vehicles. And that is all the
  1378. 59:59information I have for you, but I
  1379. 1:00:01brought a whole entourage here behind
  1380. 1:00:02me. So if we have any questions, I'm
  1381. 1:00:04sure we'll be able to answer those for
  1382. 1:00:05you.
  1383. 1:00:07>> [snorts]
  1384. 1:00:07>> Thank you so much. Uh, Council Member
  1385. 1:00:09House.
  1386. 1:00:11>> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Jen. I
  1387. 1:00:12appreciate all the information. I think
  1388. 1:00:14you actually answered most of my
  1389. 1:00:16questions. So some of these are just
  1390. 1:00:18kind of to get some reiteration of some
  1391. 1:00:20things. Um, I'm wondering if you can
  1392. 1:00:22just um,
  1393. 1:00:25reaffirm or or respeak to the
  1394. 1:00:28collaborative discussions that happen in
  1395. 1:00:31the selection process. So it sounds like
  1396. 1:00:34or from my understanding this is um, not
  1397. 1:00:37just the police department coming
  1398. 1:00:39forward and asking for or the fire
  1399. 1:00:41department coming forward and asking for
  1400. 1:00:43new vehicles from fleet, but it actually
  1401. 1:00:46involves sustainability. It involves uh,
  1402. 1:00:49other teams that are are part of this
  1403. 1:00:50conversation. Can you just kind of
  1404. 1:00:52reiterate that process and which teams
  1405. 1:00:55are involved in that conversation?
  1406. 1:00:58>> Yeah, so it's a it's a collaboration,
  1407. 1:00:59right? Um, so when we get to start
  1408. 1:01:02talking about it, we try to do it before
  1409. 1:01:04they ask the request of, okay, what do
  1410. 1:01:06you really need? Um, the fleet manager
  1411. 1:01:08is there to to kind of provide them with
  1412. 1:01:10the specifications. The division is
  1413. 1:01:13there to say these are operations that
  1414. 1:01:15we need to be able to do to successfully
  1415. 1:01:16complete our tasks. Sustainability there
  1416. 1:01:19is there to help provide us with making
  1417. 1:01:21sure that we're in line with the carbon
  1418. 1:01:23neutrality plan to say, "Hey, what about
  1419. 1:01:26this?" You know, um sustainability helps
  1420. 1:01:28out because they reach out to a whole
  1421. 1:01:30bunch of other different uh
  1422. 1:01:31municipalities. Sedona PD, that that's
  1423. 1:01:33one that it seems like we always kind of
  1424. 1:01:36look at what Sedona PD is doing. Can
  1425. 1:01:38they help us with this? Um and actually
  1426. 1:01:39Sedona PD with that uh electric vehicle,
  1427. 1:01:42I ended up passing it on to them cuz
  1428. 1:01:44they they found out that that's what we
  1429. 1:01:45were doing and I said, "Well, come get
  1430. 1:01:47it. I'll give it to you from Chevrolet
  1431. 1:01:49and go take it."
  1432. 1:01:51Um
  1433. 1:01:51but that's kind of the process is we
  1434. 1:01:53have to collaborate with each other and
  1435. 1:01:55make sure that we're understanding each
  1436. 1:01:56other's um perspective. Um but that
  1437. 1:02:00we're doing best practice and that we're
  1438. 1:02:01making sure that the vehicle or that the
  1439. 1:02:04divisions are going to be successful in
  1440. 1:02:06their job duties. But and then once we
  1441. 1:02:08have that
  1442. 1:02:10those conversations, that's when we then
  1443. 1:02:12take it to the fleet management
  1444. 1:02:13committee. And then again, we talk about
  1445. 1:02:15it, right? Well, can you have electric
  1446. 1:02:17on this or why can't you have electric?
  1447. 1:02:19Is there enough infrastructure? That's
  1448. 1:02:21going to be what I'm going to say the
  1449. 1:02:22most is do we have enough infrastructure
  1450. 1:02:24to sustain it? Um
  1451. 1:02:26and then it gets approved and then I get
  1452. 1:02:29to meet you all.
  1453. 1:02:31>> Thank you very much for that. Um we also
  1454. 1:02:34had a a couple questions come in um to
  1455. 1:02:38council about this item in particular
  1456. 1:02:40asking about um
  1457. 1:02:42the necessity of these vehicles. So, can
  1458. 1:02:45you also just clarify or reaffirm what
  1459. 1:02:48you were sharing about these vehicles?
  1460. 1:02:51Are are they replacement rather than
  1461. 1:02:53expansion and at what point are we going
  1462. 1:02:57through that replacement process? Is it
  1463. 1:02:59um
  1464. 1:03:01are we preemptively replacing? Are we
  1465. 1:03:03replacing at the point that vehicles are
  1466. 1:03:04kind of on their last limb and so it's
  1467. 1:03:07absolutely necessary or what does that
  1468. 1:03:08process look like?
  1469. 1:03:10>> I would love to be able to to say that
  1470. 1:03:12we're preemptively doing them, but these
  1471. 1:03:14ones they're they're holding on by dear
  1472. 1:03:16life, really.
  1473. 1:03:18We've started this process last
  1474. 1:03:19September.
  1475. 1:03:21And they are strictly replacements for
  1476. 1:03:24vehicles. There are no additions to the
  1477. 1:03:26fleet for the patrol.
  1478. 1:03:28Again, we we have the criteria of the 7
  1479. 1:03:32years for for These are all SUVs, but 7
  1480. 1:03:35years 100 and they have to at least meet
  1481. 1:03:37those that criteria. As well as if
  1482. 1:03:41they've been put in for service and
  1483. 1:03:42we're spending more money than the
  1484. 1:03:45vehicle's actually worth, it's time to
  1485. 1:03:47evaluate it and go, "Where are we you
  1486. 1:03:49know, is it time that we just need to
  1487. 1:03:50replace this vehicle?" So,
  1488. 1:03:53yeah, that's I hope that answered your
  1489. 1:03:55question, but they are replacements.
  1490. 1:03:57>> It does. Thank you so much. And last
  1491. 1:03:59question, if you can just speak a little
  1492. 1:04:01bit more on where we're at in the
  1493. 1:04:03process of expanding availability of
  1494. 1:04:05charge stations or including access to
  1495. 1:04:08far fast charging stations. Is that
  1496. 1:04:11something that is like underway or are
  1497. 1:04:14we still doing research where we kind of
  1498. 1:04:15at in that process? And I see Jenny
  1499. 1:04:17coming down as well.
  1500. 1:04:18>> Yep, a little bit of both.
  1501. 1:04:19So, we are working with the police
  1502. 1:04:22department. So, that police department
  1503. 1:04:24sits on
  1504. 1:04:25county land. So, we have to work with
  1505. 1:04:28the county and get approval, but we
  1506. 1:04:30already working on that. We've been I've
  1507. 1:04:32been actually working with Danae.
  1508. 1:04:34We're getting quotes. And then my boss
  1509. 1:04:36actually doesn't know this yet, but for
  1510. 1:04:38next fiscal year,
  1511. 1:04:40I'm going to be requesting to get some
  1512. 1:04:42chargers
  1513. 1:04:43not necessarily at the police department
  1514. 1:04:45just because that's a separate project.
  1515. 1:04:47But I'm requesting to add more chargers
  1516. 1:04:50around the city. So, on the east side
  1517. 1:04:53more in city hall. What's been really
  1518. 1:04:56great is I'm kind of like a stalker of
  1519. 1:04:58facilities, but it's really great is
  1520. 1:05:01I've seen the chargers out in the
  1521. 1:05:03employee parking lot completely full
  1522. 1:05:06with city vehicles being charged at the
  1523. 1:05:08end of the day. It's pretty cool, right?
  1524. 1:05:10Because we're actually seeing that that
  1525. 1:05:12shift in movement. So,
  1526. 1:05:14um um I am going to be requesting that
  1527. 1:05:16and we are working on it.
  1528. 1:05:18>> Thank you very much. Thank you, Mayor.
  1529. 1:05:21>> Council Member Milazzo.
  1530. 1:05:23>> Thank you, Mary. Thank you, Jen.
  1531. 1:05:26A bunch of my questions were answered
  1532. 1:05:27while you were speaking or while you
  1533. 1:05:29were answering um Council Member House's
  1534. 1:05:31questions, but I have several more. Um
  1535. 1:05:33could you speak a little bit about the
  1536. 1:05:36um if you happen to know about the
  1537. 1:05:38amount of time it takes to do a shift
  1538. 1:05:40change? Is it 20 minutes? Is it an hour?
  1539. 1:05:43What's the time frame for that vehicle
  1540. 1:05:46to be sitting in between?
  1541. 1:05:48>> Yeah, so um I used to work at the police
  1542. 1:05:50department and would know that, but um
  1543. 1:05:52things have changed. So, I'm going to
  1544. 1:05:54pass that to one of my police friends.
  1545. 1:05:59Thank you.
  1546. 1:06:01>> Hi, my name is Kristen Decker. I'm the
  1547. 1:06:02Support Services Manager for the
  1548. 1:06:04Flagstaff Police Department and one of
  1549. 1:06:06my
  1550. 1:06:07one of my um
  1551. 1:06:09responsibilities is our fleet.
  1552. 1:06:11So,
  1553. 1:06:12uh
  1554. 1:06:14in answer to your question, sometimes it
  1555. 1:06:16literally is there's an officer coming
  1556. 1:06:19out of the building and they're handing
  1557. 1:06:21keys to the next officer coming on
  1558. 1:06:22shift.
  1559. 1:06:24>> Okay, thank you.
  1560. 1:06:25>> Mhm.
  1561. 1:06:31>> Could you um
  1562. 1:06:33explain to me the Is it Is it 7 years
  1563. 1:06:36and 120,000 miles or is it whichever
  1564. 1:06:38occurs first? What's the replacement
  1565. 1:06:41policy on that?
  1566. 1:06:42>> It's both.
  1567. 1:06:42>> It's both. So, it has to reach both of
  1568. 1:06:44those or it could be 10 years and and it
  1569. 1:06:48finally rolls over to 120,000 and that's
  1570. 1:06:50when it's
  1571. 1:06:51>> Correct. And some of these vehicles, one
  1572. 1:06:53of the vehicles being proposed to be
  1573. 1:06:55replaced is a 2011 for an example.
  1574. 1:06:58>> Okay, thank you.
  1575. 1:06:59>> Mhm.
  1576. 1:07:02>> Any additional questions?
  1577. 1:07:06>> I think the rest of mine were answered.
  1578. 1:07:10Um so, thank you.
  1579. 1:07:14>> All right. So, seeing no additional
  1580. 1:07:17questions, and we don't have any public
  1581. 1:07:19comment.
  1582. 1:07:21I am looking for a motion.
  1583. 1:07:27>> Mayor, I'd like to move that we approve
  1584. 1:07:28the purchase contract with San Tan Auto
  1585. 1:07:31Partners LLC for nine most current
  1586. 1:07:34available
  1587. 1:07:36uh
  1588. 1:07:37model year Ford Police Interceptor
  1589. 1:07:39Utility Hybrid vehicles in the amount of
  1590. 1:07:41$449,000
  1591. 1:07:44$292.15
  1592. 1:07:46including all taxes and fees, and
  1593. 1:07:48authorize the city manager to execute
  1594. 1:07:50necessary documents.
  1595. 1:07:51>> Second.
  1596. 1:07:53>> Discussion?
  1597. 1:07:54All those in favor?
  1598. 1:07:55>> I.
  1599. 1:07:56>> I.
  1600. 1:07:56>> I.
  1601. 1:07:57>> Any opposed?
  1602. 1:07:59All right. Thank you. That was the best
  1603. 1:08:02presentation on uh the process. I I just
  1604. 1:08:08really appreciate all that detail.
  1605. 1:08:09>> Thank you. Happy to do it again.
  1606. 1:08:15>> All right, we're down to D,
  1607. 1:08:16consideration and adoption of ordinance
  1608. 1:08:18number 2026-22.
  1609. 1:08:26>> Good afternoon. This is our second read.
  1610. 1:08:27No additional information, but available
  1611. 1:08:29for questions.
  1612. 1:08:30>> Thank you.
  1613. 1:08:32Council, do you have questions?
  1614. 1:08:36Comments?
  1615. 1:08:39All right, I'm looking for a motion.
  1616. 1:08:41>> Mayor,
  1617. 1:08:42I um
  1618. 1:08:43move that we read ordinance number
  1619. 1:08:452026-22
  1620. 1:08:47by title title only for the final time.
  1621. 1:08:51>> I'll second.
  1622. 1:08:53>> Discussion?
  1623. 1:08:54All those in favor?
  1624. 1:08:55>> I.
  1625. 1:08:55>> I.
  1626. 1:08:56>> I.
  1627. 1:08:56>> Any opposed?
  1628. 1:08:58City Clerk?
  1629. 1:08:59>> An ordinance of the City Council of the
  1630. 1:09:00City of Flagstaff authorizing the
  1631. 1:09:02acquisition of real property interests
  1632. 1:09:04necessary for the Fanning Wash Culvert
  1633. 1:09:06at Steve's Boulevard project, a public
  1634. 1:09:09use providing for delegation of
  1635. 1:09:11authority, subsequent council approvals,
  1636. 1:09:13severability, and establishing an
  1637. 1:09:14effective date.
  1638. 1:09:16>> Mayor, I move that we adopt ordinance
  1639. 1:09:18number 2026-22.
  1640. 1:09:22>> Second.
  1641. 1:09:24>> Discussion? All those in favor?
  1642. 1:09:26>> I.
  1643. 1:09:26>> I.
  1644. 1:09:27>> I.
  1645. 1:09:28>> Thank you, Bryce.
  1646. 1:09:31All right, moving down to E,
  1647. 1:09:32consideration and adoption of ordinance
  1648. 1:09:34number 2026-23.
  1649. 1:09:38This is also the second read.
  1650. 1:09:54>> Um, good evening, Mayor and Council.
  1651. 1:09:56Bezen Hung, senior planner with the City
  1652. 1:09:58of Flagstaff. This is the second read
  1653. 1:10:00before the El Paso Industrial Park
  1654. 1:10:02concept zoning map amendment. The
  1655. 1:10:04applicant is in attendance tonight. We
  1656. 1:10:06are here to answer any questions if
  1657. 1:10:08there are any.
  1658. 1:10:11>> Uh, Council Member Malazzo.
  1659. 1:10:14>> Thank you, Mayor. I have a couple of
  1660. 1:10:16questions and I know one of them got to
  1661. 1:10:18you earlier and I just want it on the
  1662. 1:10:20public record that I asked the question.
  1663. 1:10:22Um, in the documents that we received,
  1664. 1:10:25there was a paragraph or two about um,
  1665. 1:10:28historical and cultural sites on site.
  1666. 1:10:31In one of the um, documents from staff,
  1667. 1:10:36it didn't mention any and I understand
  1668. 1:10:38the answer, but I'd like to hear it
  1669. 1:10:40again if that's okay.
  1670. 1:10:41>> Yeah, absolutely. I'll maybe start
  1671. 1:10:44answering the question and if Michelle
  1672. 1:10:45or Alex want to jump in, they're welcome
  1673. 1:10:47to.
  1674. 1:10:48Um, so my understanding is that you're
  1675. 1:10:50referring to a paragraph that was found
  1676. 1:10:52in the narrative that talks about the
  1677. 1:10:54location about some
  1678. 1:10:56um, artifacts and then the staff report
  1679. 1:10:58refers down in page two of the staff
  1680. 1:11:02report about how staff did not require
  1681. 1:11:04further analysis for those artifacts.
  1682. 1:11:07So, talking with the heritage
  1683. 1:11:08preservation officer this morning, um,
  1684. 1:11:11as part of um, the
  1685. 1:11:15Um, I'm trying to remember the
  1686. 1:11:17terminology for it and here she is. Um,
  1687. 1:11:19I'm actually going to invite her to talk
  1688. 1:11:21about that a little bit more cuz she
  1689. 1:11:22that's her expertise.
  1690. 1:11:26>> Thank you, Bethen. Uh, good afternoon,
  1691. 1:11:28Lauren Clementino. I'm the heritage
  1692. 1:11:30preservation officer. Um, because this
  1693. 1:11:32parcel uh, was owned by state land, uh,
  1694. 1:11:36they have to comply with the Arizona
  1695. 1:11:38State Historic Preservation Act and so
  1696. 1:11:40as part of um, all of the sales and
  1697. 1:11:43auctions that they do, uh, um, the
  1698. 1:11:46action of the sale triggers cultural
  1699. 1:11:48resource study requirements as well as
  1700. 1:11:50consultation with the State Historic
  1701. 1:11:51Preservation Office and that
  1702. 1:11:53essentially, you know, preempts what we
  1703. 1:11:55do under our local heritage preservation
  1704. 1:11:57code. So, all of the heritage
  1705. 1:11:58preservation requirements were taken
  1706. 1:12:00care of at the state level um, during
  1707. 1:12:02the sale and so, you know, we're
  1708. 1:12:04following those but we didn't have any
  1709. 1:12:06additional city heritage preservation
  1710. 1:12:08requirements for this project.
  1711. 1:12:09>> Thank you so much.
  1712. 1:12:10>> You're welcome.
  1713. 1:12:13>> I have a second question if I may.
  1714. 1:12:15>> Yes, please.
  1715. 1:12:15>> And I apologize for not asking this
  1716. 1:12:17earlier. It came to mind while um,
  1717. 1:12:20reading through this afternoon. So,
  1718. 1:12:23um, there the the report on the
  1719. 1:12:26engineering reports on the water were
  1720. 1:12:29that there were no, um, potential
  1721. 1:12:31impacts. I'm I'm wondering are there any
  1722. 1:12:34downstream from this on that 8-in line?
  1723. 1:12:38Are there any residences or potential
  1724. 1:12:40residences on the 8-in line downstream
  1725. 1:12:43from this project?
  1726. 1:12:49And I really do apol- I don't mean to
  1727. 1:12:51call you out or catch you out with a
  1728. 1:12:53unexpected question. I just one I
  1729. 1:12:55thought of just
  1730. 1:12:56an hour or so ago.
  1731. 1:12:57>> Yeah, absolutely. I will try my best to
  1732. 1:13:00answer that. Um
  1733. 1:13:03And here comes Lee.
  1734. 1:13:05>> [laughter]
  1735. 1:13:22>> Hi Council, Mayor.
  1736. 1:13:24Lee Williams, Water Services Director. I
  1737. 1:13:26do not know the answer to your question.
  1738. 1:13:27I'm going to have to follow up with my
  1739. 1:13:28engineering section director and get
  1740. 1:13:30back to you.
  1741. 1:13:32>> Thank you and I really apologize for
  1742. 1:13:33putting you on the spot. That was not my
  1743. 1:13:34intention.
  1744. 1:13:35>> Oh, quite all right. I'll get back to
  1745. 1:13:36you soon.
  1746. 1:13:41>> Any additional questions?
  1747. 1:13:43All right, I am looking for a motion.
  1748. 1:13:48>> Mayor, I move that we read ordinance
  1749. 1:13:51number 2026-23
  1750. 1:13:53by title only for the final time.
  1751. 1:13:56>> I'll second.
  1752. 1:13:59>> Discussion? All those in favor?
  1753. 1:14:01>> I.
  1754. 1:14:02>> I.
  1755. 1:14:02>> I.
  1756. 1:14:03>> Any opposed?
  1757. 1:14:04>> City Clerk.
  1758. 1:14:05>> An ordinance of the City Council of the
  1759. 1:14:06City of Flagstaff amending the Flagstaff
  1760. 1:14:08zoning map to rezone approximately 23.89
  1761. 1:14:11acres of real property generally located
  1762. 1:14:14at 2661 North El Paso Flagstaff Road
  1763. 1:14:18from the highway commercial HC zone with
  1764. 1:14:20the resource protection overlay RPO to
  1765. 1:14:23heavy industrial open HI-O
  1766. 1:14:27zone with the RPO providing for
  1767. 1:14:29severability, authority for clerical
  1768. 1:14:30corrections, and establishing an
  1769. 1:14:32effective date.
  1770. 1:14:33>> Thank you. Looking for a motion to
  1771. 1:14:35adopt.
  1772. 1:14:37>> I'll move to adopt.
  1773. 1:14:39>> I'll second.
  1774. 1:14:40>> Discussion? All those in favor?
  1775. 1:14:42>> I.
  1776. 1:14:43>> I.
  1777. 1:14:44>> Any opposed? All right.
  1778. 1:14:46Thank you.
  1779. 1:14:48Thank you.
  1780. 1:14:49All right, moving down to 12.
  1781. 1:14:52Public hearing items. This is the
  1782. 1:14:54consideration and adoption of resolution
  1783. 1:14:56number 2026-51
  1784. 1:14:59and ordinance number 2026-26.
  1785. 1:15:03I am opening the public hearing and
  1786. 1:15:06looking forward to hearing from you.
  1787. 1:15:18>> Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.
  1788. 1:15:20Tiffany Antol, Zoning Code Manager.
  1789. 1:15:22Tonight, I'm here to present a Zoning
  1790. 1:15:24Code Text Amendment, um, entitled
  1791. 1:15:26Outdoor Lighting Update.
  1792. 1:15:29And the purpose of this amendment is to
  1793. 1:15:31set some specific limitations on the use
  1794. 1:15:34of Class 3 lighting.
  1795. 1:15:36In our outdoor lighting standards, and
  1796. 1:15:38as you've heard earlier, we have a lot
  1797. 1:15:41to do with dark skies,
  1798. 1:15:43um, in our community, and it is, um, one
  1799. 1:15:46of our most precious resources. We, um,
  1800. 1:15:50regulate lighting under three different
  1801. 1:15:52classes. Class 1 is lighting that is
  1802. 1:15:55important for color rendition. So, this
  1803. 1:15:57is when you're eating your dinner
  1804. 1:15:59outside, yellow light can make your food
  1805. 1:16:03look a little bit different. Um, so,
  1806. 1:16:05those are areas where color rendition is
  1807. 1:16:07important. That's where white light can
  1808. 1:16:09be utilized. Class 2 lighting is
  1809. 1:16:12standard security lighting. So, this is
  1810. 1:16:14your parking lot, areas around a
  1811. 1:16:17building. This is where amber lighting,
  1812. 1:16:20um, is required no matter what. And the
  1813. 1:16:23last class is Class 3, which is
  1814. 1:16:25architectural or decorative lighting.
  1815. 1:16:28Um, this is sort of extra lighting that
  1816. 1:16:30you'll see on a building. A good example
  1817. 1:16:33would be
  1818. 1:16:34the Harkins. They have some neon
  1819. 1:16:37lighting at the top of their building.
  1820. 1:16:39That would be an example of
  1821. 1:16:40architectural lighting.
  1822. 1:16:42Um in this case, we've never set a
  1823. 1:16:45specific final cap on that class three
  1824. 1:16:49lighting. Uh we realized that that was a
  1825. 1:16:52flaw in our current lighting standards,
  1826. 1:16:54and so this amendment is proposing to
  1827. 1:16:57add a cap. Um in order to do that, we
  1828. 1:17:00are also making a slight change, and
  1829. 1:17:03that is we are moving flag and monument
  1830. 1:17:05lighting to class one, um because color
  1831. 1:17:09rendition on flags is important. Um with
  1832. 1:17:12class three lighting, we are then um so
  1833. 1:17:16we are relocating that flag and monument
  1834. 1:17:19lighting from class three to class one,
  1835. 1:17:21and then under our total outdoor light
  1836. 1:17:24put table, we are basically saying that
  1837. 1:17:26class three lighting that does not use
  1838. 1:17:28narrow spectrum amber sources is limited
  1839. 1:17:31to either 10% of the total out outdoor
  1840. 1:17:34light output or 3,500 lm, whichever is
  1841. 1:17:37greater. So, the way our lighting code
  1842. 1:17:39works is the number of total lm you're
  1843. 1:17:42allowed is based on the size of the
  1844. 1:17:44parcel. This can be difficult for
  1845. 1:17:46parcels like businesses in the downtown
  1846. 1:17:49that are on very small size lots, so
  1847. 1:17:53this guarantees at a minimum at least a
  1848. 1:17:56certain amount of decorative a lighting
  1849. 1:17:59allowance. Otherwise, that total
  1850. 1:18:01allowance can be very small.
  1851. 1:18:04So, that is the big primary change that
  1852. 1:18:06you're seeing. There is while we were in
  1853. 1:18:08there, we like to do a little clean up,
  1854. 1:18:10so we um are correcting our shielding on
  1855. 1:18:14our shielding standards. We're making it
  1856. 1:18:15very clear that unshielded fixtures are
  1857. 1:18:18not permitted. They've never been
  1858. 1:18:19permitted for um at least three decades.
  1859. 1:18:22And then um we are cleaning up our
  1860. 1:18:25definition of partially shielded
  1861. 1:18:27fixture. Um
  1862. 1:18:29class three lighting often ends up being
  1863. 1:18:31partially shielded.
  1864. 1:18:33And then um we are doing a full clean up
  1865. 1:18:35of our appendices. The primary reason is
  1866. 1:18:38there is an appendix that was a lumen
  1867. 1:18:42output table for all different kinds of
  1868. 1:18:44lighting sources that are really no
  1869. 1:18:45longer in existence and we're not using.
  1870. 1:18:47So, that data became irrelevant. We did
  1871. 1:18:50a full scrub of the appendices in total.
  1872. 1:18:53And that is the sum total of this
  1873. 1:18:56amendment for you tonight. Um in terms
  1874. 1:18:59of the general plan, we do need to be in
  1875. 1:19:02conformance. You can see that there are
  1876. 1:19:05complimentary, there are no primary or
  1877. 1:19:07there are no core
  1878. 1:19:09um priority
  1879. 1:19:11goals or policies in terms of lighting.
  1880. 1:19:13It is only complimentary, but here you
  1881. 1:19:15can see this is supported by the
  1882. 1:19:17regional plan.
  1883. 1:19:18>> [snorts]
  1884. 1:19:18>> And the amendment is not anticipated to
  1885. 1:19:21be detrimental to the public interest
  1886. 1:19:23health safety.
  1887. 1:19:25And lastly, it is consistent utilizing
  1888. 1:19:28the existing format and doesn't conflict
  1889. 1:19:31with other code provisions. The planning
  1890. 1:19:33and zoning commission did make a
  1891. 1:19:34recommendation to the city council for
  1892. 1:19:36approval with a vote of 5-0 on this. And
  1893. 1:19:39if you have any questions or comments or
  1894. 1:19:41suggestions, I'd be happy to take them.
  1895. 1:19:44>> Thank you.
  1896. 1:19:46Council member House.
  1897. 1:19:47Thank you, Mayor. Thank you so much for
  1898. 1:19:49the presentation. And I apologize if
  1899. 1:19:52this is a silly question. It just kind
  1900. 1:19:53of came to mind as you were talking
  1901. 1:19:55about this with like specialized
  1902. 1:19:58lighting outside.
  1903. 1:20:00Is there a separate language or coding
  1904. 1:20:02for like holiday or seasonal lighting or
  1905. 1:20:05does this have any impact on that?
  1906. 1:20:08>> Thank you so much. Uh we provide an
  1907. 1:20:10exemption for holiday lighting and right
  1908. 1:20:12now that's
  1909. 1:20:13uh you're going to see it November to
  1910. 1:20:15January is that exemption. But this um
  1911. 1:20:18particular topic came up as well at
  1912. 1:20:20planning and zoning commission.
  1913. 1:20:22Um and they would like us to explore
  1914. 1:20:25further future holidays in the future.
  1915. 1:20:28>> Thank you very much.
  1916. 1:20:33>> Um I'm ready to make a motion when when
  1917. 1:20:35that's appropriate.
  1918. 1:20:36>> Do you have a question?
  1919. 1:20:37>> I do, thank you, Mayor.
  1920. 1:20:38>> Oh, I see the queue now. Thank you.
  1921. 1:20:41>> Could you
  1922. 1:20:42go into a little bit the difference
  1923. 1:20:44between lumens and wattage and how that
  1924. 1:20:46impacts things like sustainability if
  1925. 1:20:48you
  1926. 1:20:49are feeling comfortable with that and
  1927. 1:20:50again I apologize it it's a surprise
  1928. 1:20:52question but
  1929. 1:20:53>> Thank you so much. I'm actually not
  1930. 1:20:54>> [laughter]
  1931. 1:20:55>> I'm not comfortable answering that
  1932. 1:20:57question today but can certainly prepare
  1933. 1:20:59that for you in the future.
  1934. 1:21:07Hi folks. Uh Jenny Niemann, Deputy
  1935. 1:21:09Sustainability Director.
  1936. 1:21:11The answer is it depends. So it's not a
  1937. 1:21:13great answer. Um it is something that
  1938. 1:21:15the city has considered. The city did a
  1939. 1:21:17huge street light project a long ago and
  1940. 1:21:19we had a lot of conversations about how
  1941. 1:21:21does this increase it or decrease it? Um
  1942. 1:21:24but we're in the world that we're in now
  1943. 1:21:26with LEDs we're in generally a much
  1944. 1:21:28better space than we've ever been. Um
  1945. 1:21:30and so lighting is a much lower part of
  1946. 1:21:34our total electric load um kind of
  1947. 1:21:36regardless of
  1948. 1:21:38the lumens and all the complicated
  1949. 1:21:40things that Tiffany talks about. Um just
  1950. 1:21:42by the fact that they're most likely
  1951. 1:21:43LEDs.
  1952. 1:21:45>> Great, thank you so much.
  1953. 1:21:48>> Thank you. We do um always recognize
  1954. 1:21:51that narrow spectrum amber is less
  1955. 1:21:52efficient than white light but um we
  1956. 1:21:55have chosen to
  1957. 1:21:57work towards our um existing dark sky
  1958. 1:22:01priorities in that way.
  1959. 1:22:05>> I I'm fully in support of that as well.
  1960. 1:22:08>> All right, I'm looking for a motion.
  1961. 1:22:11>> Yes, Madam Mayor. Thank you.
  1962. 1:22:13>> Sorry, we need to close the public
  1963. 1:22:15hearing.
  1964. 1:22:16Forgot we're in a public hearing.
  1965. 1:22:18Uh we don't have any public comment.
  1966. 1:22:22Okay, so I'm closing the public hearing
  1967. 1:22:25and now I'm looking for a motion.
  1968. 1:22:27>> Wonderful, thank you Tiffany and I
  1969. 1:22:28appreciate uh this agenda item being
  1970. 1:22:31brought forward and it being brought
  1971. 1:22:33forward so expediently. Really
  1972. 1:22:36appreciate it. I move that we read
  1973. 1:22:38resolution number 2026-51
  1974. 1:22:41by title only.
  1975. 1:22:42>> I'll second.
  1976. 1:22:44Discussion? All those in favor?
  1977. 1:22:46>> I.
  1978. 1:22:47>> I.
  1979. 1:22:47>> I.
  1980. 1:22:48>> Any opposed? All right, city clerk.
  1981. 1:22:50>> A resolution of the Flagstaff City
  1982. 1:22:52Council declaring as a public record
  1983. 1:22:54that certain document filed with the
  1984. 1:22:55city entitled PZ-26-00070-outdoor
  1985. 1:23:02lighting update.
  1986. 1:23:05>> And a motion for the next ordinance?
  1987. 1:23:09>> Mayor, I move that we read ordinance
  1988. 1:23:11number 2026-26
  1989. 1:23:13by title only for the first time.
  1990. 1:23:16>> I'll second. Discussion? All those in
  1991. 1:23:19favor? I.
  1992. 1:23:20Any opposed? City clerk.
  1993. 1:23:22>> An ordinance of the City Council of the
  1994. 1:23:24City of Flagstaff amending the Flagstaff
  1995. 1:23:26City Code Title 10 Flagstaff Zoning Code
  1996. 1:23:29by adopting by reference that certain
  1997. 1:23:31document entitled PZ-26-00070-outdoor
  1998. 1:23:37lighting update providing for repeal of
  1999. 1:23:39conflicting ordinances, severability,
  2000. 1:23:41authority for clerical corrections and
  2001. 1:23:43establishing an effective date.
  2002. 1:23:45>> Thank you.
  2003. 1:23:46All right, we're moving down to eight,
  2004. 1:23:48consideration and adoption of resolution
  2005. 1:23:50number 2026-52
  2006. 1:23:53and ordinance number 2026
  2007. 1:23:5627.
  2008. 1:23:59>> Thank you so much Mayor and Council.
  2009. 1:24:01Tiffany Antol, zoning code manager here
  2010. 1:24:03with the zoning code amendment on our
  2011. 1:24:05zoning map amendment process.
  2012. 1:24:08So when a property owner seeks to
  2013. 1:24:11develop a property with a different land
  2014. 1:24:13use or intensity that is currently
  2015. 1:24:15permitted under their applicable zoning
  2016. 1:24:17district the owner may apply for what we
  2017. 1:24:20call a zoning map amendment or what we
  2018. 1:24:23on the in the lingo world called a
  2019. 1:24:25rezoning.
  2020. 1:24:27Um we provide two pathways for that
  2021. 1:24:30process. The first is direct ordinance
  2022. 1:24:33rezoning where the applicant submits a
  2023. 1:24:35full site plan and supporting document
  2024. 1:24:37documentation.
  2025. 1:24:39This pathway enables the applicant to
  2026. 1:24:42entitle the project and proceed directly
  2027. 1:24:44to construction plan and building permit
  2028. 1:24:45review.
  2029. 1:24:46So when you see a site plan, you're
  2030. 1:24:48seeing where the building is laying out,
  2031. 1:24:50you're seeing the driveways, you're
  2032. 1:24:52seeing the parking spaces, you're seeing
  2033. 1:24:54the architecture of the building. All
  2034. 1:24:56aspects that we're looking at in terms
  2035. 1:24:58of what you're going to kind of see down
  2036. 1:25:00the line and for in terms of that
  2037. 1:25:01development, you see as part of direct
  2038. 1:25:04ordinance.
  2039. 1:25:05In the conceptual rezoning, the
  2040. 1:25:07applicant submits a concept zoning plan
  2041. 1:25:09to pursue a rezoning. And over time,
  2042. 1:25:12this has been a varied amount of
  2043. 1:25:14specificity. Sometimes we get a little
  2044. 1:25:16bit more towards direct ordinance.
  2045. 1:25:19Sometimes you're just getting a map with
  2046. 1:25:21areas that identify this is going to be
  2047. 1:25:24high density residential, this is going
  2048. 1:25:26to be medium and
  2049. 1:25:29single family timber sky would be a good
  2050. 1:25:31example of that.
  2051. 1:25:33But regardless of the pathway selected,
  2052. 1:25:35the same procedures and level of review
  2053. 1:25:37apply. Staff is recommending that we
  2054. 1:25:41removing the two separate pathways so
  2055. 1:25:43that the zoning map amendment process
  2056. 1:25:45will remain similar to the existing
  2057. 1:25:47conceptual rezoning pathway.
  2058. 1:25:50Part of the rationale for this is recent
  2059. 1:25:52state legislation that has put a
  2060. 1:25:55significantly limited time frame on the
  2061. 1:25:59amount of time staff can take to review
  2062. 1:26:01a rezoning case. We have 180
  2063. 1:26:05days to either approve or deny a
  2064. 1:26:07rezoning case. Staff does not
  2065. 1:26:09administratively approve rezonings.
  2066. 1:26:12Rezonings are approved through a process
  2067. 1:26:14a public hearing process that goes to
  2068. 1:26:15the planning and zoning commission and
  2069. 1:26:17city council. That process alone takes
  2070. 1:26:20about 3 months. So, I always love it
  2071. 1:26:22when I hear something came along quickly
  2072. 1:26:24because it's been at least 3 months just
  2073. 1:26:26in the public hearing cycle.
  2074. 1:26:29So, just if you take that into account
  2075. 1:26:31on 180 days, that leaves staff about an
  2076. 1:26:34administrative time frame of about 3
  2077. 1:26:36months to get through a whole site plan
  2078. 1:26:40on a development case,
  2079. 1:26:42which can make that aspect very
  2080. 1:26:44difficult in order that time frame. So,
  2081. 1:26:47that's one of the impetus.
  2082. 1:26:49We also have heard feedback
  2083. 1:26:51as part of the last cap project that the
  2084. 1:26:54time it takes to make go through the
  2085. 1:26:57rezoning process can also be a hamper to
  2086. 1:26:59development. So, this is a way to also
  2087. 1:27:02help us streamline that
  2088. 1:27:04rezoning process, too.
  2089. 1:27:06So, the other aspect that
  2090. 1:27:09staff is proposing to remove is the
  2091. 1:27:12requirement to condition a rezoning on a
  2092. 1:27:15conceptual site plan. So, when somebody
  2093. 1:27:17comes in with that conceptual site plan
  2094. 1:27:20and they are conditioned specifically on
  2095. 1:27:23that site plan, if they want to come in
  2096. 1:27:26and do something different, market
  2097. 1:27:27conditions have changed, they need to
  2098. 1:27:30come in and rezone all over again. And
  2099. 1:27:33so, while there may be times when a
  2100. 1:27:36rezoning needs to be conditioned and
  2101. 1:27:38there are still parameters in the code
  2102. 1:27:40that allow for conditions of approval.
  2103. 1:27:42In any rezoning case, it just
  2104. 1:27:46is not mandatory that every rezoning be
  2105. 1:27:50conditioned on that specific concept
  2106. 1:27:52plan.
  2107. 1:27:54The guardrails, of course, are always
  2108. 1:27:56the regional plan. The regional plan
  2109. 1:27:57sets that guidelines for what can really
  2110. 1:28:00honestly be approved through the
  2111. 1:28:02rezoning process.
  2112. 1:28:04Conditions of approval, of course, the
  2113. 1:28:06council may impose such reasonable and
  2114. 1:28:08appropriate conditions and safeguards.
  2115. 1:28:11These are examples of what those
  2116. 1:28:13conditions of approval are.
  2117. 1:28:16Um, you can tie things to the general
  2118. 1:28:18plan. You can reduce or minimize
  2119. 1:28:21things that are poten- could be
  2120. 1:28:22potentially injurious, protect the
  2121. 1:28:24character and scale of the neighborhood,
  2122. 1:28:26and so forth. So, all of those
  2123. 1:28:28parameters are still there.
  2124. 1:28:30Um, conditions of approval can include
  2125. 1:28:33things like landscaping, they can
  2126. 1:28:35include things like floor area ratio,
  2127. 1:28:38setbacks, building height, um,
  2128. 1:28:40limitations on signage, limitations on
  2129. 1:28:43the conduct of the proposed use, such as
  2130. 1:28:46limited hours of operation.
  2131. 1:28:48It can include public dedication of
  2132. 1:28:50necessary right-of-ways for streets and
  2133. 1:28:52alleys.
  2134. 1:28:53Um, we can require additional
  2135. 1:28:55neighborhood meetings.
  2136. 1:28:57We can also require that a property go
  2137. 1:29:00into the resource protection overlay.
  2138. 1:29:02So, those are all in code, and they
  2139. 1:29:04remain the same. So, this proposed
  2140. 1:29:06amendment removes, um,
  2141. 1:29:10So, it does a couple of things. It is
  2142. 1:29:12going to change our common procedure to
  2143. 1:29:14remove language that states a
  2144. 1:29:16pre-application review is optional.
  2145. 1:29:19For us to make sure we're hitting this
  2146. 1:29:21out of the park with our applicants, we
  2147. 1:29:22want to require that pre-application
  2148. 1:29:25from the forefront. And, um, then they
  2149. 1:29:28can submit their rezoning application.
  2150. 1:29:30And then, from there, we are we are
  2151. 1:29:34requiring the pre-application, we are
  2152. 1:29:36clarifying what applications require a
  2153. 1:29:39public meeting,
  2154. 1:29:40um, with the Heritage Preservation
  2155. 1:29:42Commission. Right now, it says that all
  2156. 1:29:44zoning code text amendments are supposed
  2157. 1:29:46to go to the Heritage Preservation
  2158. 1:29:47Commission, and that's it's usually when
  2159. 1:29:49we're doing either a rezoning or a
  2160. 1:29:52zoning map amendment or a text change
  2161. 1:29:54that involves some component that the
  2162. 1:29:56Heritage Preservation, um, oversees. And
  2163. 1:29:59we will, of course, always still take
  2164. 1:30:00those cases to them.
  2165. 1:30:02We are amending the application
  2166. 1:30:03requirements to remove detailed
  2167. 1:30:05submittal requirements for the different
  2168. 1:30:07scale of zoning map amendments. Right
  2169. 1:30:09now, we have small, medium, large, and
  2170. 1:30:12multi-phased.
  2171. 1:30:14Um there really is not a lot of differ
  2172. 1:30:17There's not a lot of differential in the
  2173. 1:30:18applications that we receive for those.
  2174. 1:30:22It deletes that two-pronged approach and
  2175. 1:30:24leaves us with one
  2176. 1:30:26um just zoning map amendment process,
  2177. 1:30:28which is actually what we had
  2178. 1:30:30about 10 years ago.
  2179. 1:30:32And then we remove language for
  2180. 1:30:35modifying the concept zoning plan, and
  2181. 1:30:38we're removing some figures out of the
  2182. 1:30:42text itself.
  2183. 1:30:44And then clarifying what neighborhood
  2184. 1:30:46meetings apply to.
  2185. 1:30:49And there are the required findings. So,
  2186. 1:30:52there really are no core or
  2187. 1:30:54complementary goals and policies that
  2188. 1:30:56apply to this zoning code text
  2189. 1:30:58amendment, but this text amendment is in
  2190. 1:31:01alignment with the spirit of what the
  2191. 1:31:03regional plan is attempting to
  2192. 1:31:04accomplish by making
  2193. 1:31:06um cases rezoning cases um more
  2194. 1:31:09approachable and a better process for
  2195. 1:31:13our applicants, as you can see with the
  2196. 1:31:15new framework that's built into our
  2197. 1:31:17regional plan.
  2198. 1:31:19The amendment provisions are not
  2199. 1:31:21anticipated to be detrimental to the
  2200. 1:31:22public interest, health, safety,
  2201. 1:31:24convenience. All rezonings will still go
  2202. 1:31:26through the same public process. They
  2203. 1:31:28will still be vetted in the same way,
  2204. 1:31:30and we will still have the detailed
  2205. 1:31:32information necessary for you all to
  2206. 1:31:34make the required findings on those
  2207. 1:31:36cases.
  2208. 1:31:37And then lastly, the amendment is
  2209. 1:31:39internally consistent utilizing the
  2210. 1:31:41existing format and doesn't conflict
  2211. 1:31:43with other zoning code provisions.
  2212. 1:31:46The Planning and Zoning Commission did
  2213. 1:31:48make a recommendation for approval uh
  2214. 1:31:51with a vote of 4-1 on this particular
  2215. 1:31:53text amendment. Um
  2216. 1:31:55I'd be happy to take any questions,
  2217. 1:31:58comments, or suggestions.
  2218. 1:31:59>> Thank you.
  2219. 1:32:01>> Council member Milazzo.
  2220. 1:32:03>> I'm just coming in hot, aren't I?
  2221. 1:32:05Um, could you give a little bit of
  2222. 1:32:07context on why you said about 10 years
  2223. 1:32:10ago this two-pronged approach was
  2224. 1:32:12implemented? Do you happen to have any
  2225. 1:32:15idea what council was kind of thinking
  2226. 1:32:17at that point or what the discussions
  2227. 1:32:18were and what sort of thing that
  2228. 1:32:21happened or maybe happened that made
  2229. 1:32:24council want to implement this?
  2230. 1:32:26>> Thank you so much. It was the same idea
  2231. 1:32:28that we were attempting to streamline
  2232. 1:32:30the rezoning process.
  2233. 1:32:34>> So, is that more of a like reducing from
  2234. 1:32:37three or four prongs to two prongs and
  2235. 1:32:39now we're going down to one or was it
  2236. 1:32:41something else or
  2237. 1:32:42>> It just every rezoning at that time was
  2238. 1:32:46on the much more direct ordinance scale
  2239. 1:32:48and there wasn't really that conceptual
  2240. 1:32:50scale option. So, when the code was
  2241. 1:32:52amended about a decade ago, it added in
  2242. 1:32:55that concept rezoning aspect. Although,
  2243. 1:32:58we've never taken it to its full
  2244. 1:33:00potential.
  2245. 1:33:01>> Great, thank you.
  2246. 1:33:04>> Additional questions, comments?
  2247. 1:33:07Council member Matthews.
  2248. 1:33:08>> Mayor, if I may, I'm very sorry to
  2249. 1:33:10interrupt. I think when we moved to item
  2250. 1:33:1212B,
  2251. 1:33:14um, there wasn't a separate public
  2252. 1:33:16hearing opened.
  2253. 1:33:17Um, if you wouldn't mind doing that just
  2254. 1:33:20before we go any further, I'd appreciate
  2255. 1:33:22it.
  2256. 1:33:22>> Yikes.
  2257. 1:33:25All right. So, I am opening the public
  2258. 1:33:27hearing on item B
  2259. 1:33:29and
  2260. 1:33:31we are at the point where we are taking
  2261. 1:33:33questions from the council. Council
  2262. 1:33:36member Matthews.
  2263. 1:33:39>> Thank you, Mayor. Um,
  2264. 1:33:41actually, Tiffany, this is just more of
  2265. 1:33:43a comment. Um, I want to thank you and
  2266. 1:33:45Michelle and the team for continuously
  2267. 1:33:48working to streamline our process, um,
  2268. 1:33:51to make this much more business friendly
  2269. 1:33:55so we can reach our housing goals and
  2270. 1:33:57not scare off uh, future developers. So
  2271. 1:34:00I just want to thank you for the work
  2272. 1:34:02that you're doing on this. I know it's a
  2273. 1:34:03lot. You're you're behind the scenes on
  2274. 1:34:05all the
  2275. 1:34:06code changes and zoning changes and
  2276. 1:34:09stuff. So thank you and Michelle and
  2277. 1:34:11everybody else.
  2278. 1:34:16>> Council, questions?
  2279. 1:34:18All right, I'm going to take public
  2280. 1:34:19comment.
  2281. 1:34:20Thank you, Tiffany.
  2282. 1:34:22Rick Lopez.
  2283. 1:34:32>> Thank you, Mayor and Council staff. Um
  2284. 1:34:35all of you know
  2285. 1:34:37I've been in front of this council off
  2286. 1:34:39and on for over 30 years arguing about
  2287. 1:34:41housing issues.
  2288. 1:34:43Um
  2289. 1:34:44and it hasn't always been easy and there
  2290. 1:34:48hasn't always been any receptiveness on
  2291. 1:34:51the part of city staffs or councils in
  2292. 1:34:54the in the past to do things that
  2293. 1:34:56actually helped
  2294. 1:34:58our housing issues. And now we we have a
  2295. 1:35:02a nationwide housing emergency.
  2296. 1:35:06We literally have an an absolute crisis
  2297. 1:35:08here in Flagstaff and I've presented
  2298. 1:35:11that numerous times over the last 3
  2299. 1:35:13years.
  2300. 1:35:14So I'm not going to go into all of that
  2301. 1:35:16kind of stuff. What I want to do is kind
  2302. 1:35:18of reiterate what Councilman Matthews
  2303. 1:35:20just said is I just want to thank the
  2304. 1:35:25the current administration, the the
  2305. 1:35:26planning staff, the the zoning staff to
  2306. 1:35:30address some of these issues to help
  2307. 1:35:33facilitate
  2308. 1:35:35the
  2309. 1:35:36the more effective
  2310. 1:35:37capabilities of both the private sector
  2311. 1:35:40and public sector to bring some housing
  2312. 1:35:43for our workforce hopefully in the not
  2313. 1:35:45too distant future.
  2314. 1:35:46None of this happens in a vacuum. It
  2315. 1:35:48takes a lot of collaboration and I'm
  2316. 1:35:51just appreciative that our staff has
  2317. 1:35:53finally been willing to listen to some
  2318. 1:35:55of the input given to them by builders,
  2319. 1:35:58developers, my realtor association over
  2320. 1:36:01the last 3 years. And I
  2321. 1:36:04am grateful for that. And I hope that
  2322. 1:36:06all of you will continue to support all
  2323. 1:36:08of the last cap proposals that come
  2324. 1:36:10forward over the next few months. Thank
  2325. 1:36:12you.
  2326. 1:36:14>> Thank you.
  2327. 1:36:16All right, Council. I don't see any
  2328. 1:36:17additional questions.
  2329. 1:36:20So, I am going to close the public
  2330. 1:36:23hearing and I am looking for a motion.
  2331. 1:36:28>> Mayor, I'd like to move that we read
  2332. 1:36:30ordinance number 2026-28
  2333. 1:36:33by title only for the first time.
  2334. 1:36:37>> I'll second.
  2335. 1:36:39>> Discuss.
  2336. 1:36:40>> Apologies.
  2337. 1:36:42Um are we on the resolution or the
  2338. 1:36:44ordinance?
  2339. 1:36:46>> Resolution first.
  2340. 1:36:47>> resolution?
  2341. 1:36:50>> Okay. It just It only says by title
  2342. 1:36:52only.
  2343. 1:36:54Does it need to be for the first
  2344. 1:36:55>> The resolution.
  2345. 1:36:57>> A resolution is just by title only.
  2346. 1:36:59There isn't a first or second read on
  2347. 1:37:00that one.
  2348. 1:37:01>> Yeah, we wait to adopt until the next
  2349. 1:37:02meeting where the second read of the
  2350. 1:37:04ordinance takes place. That's where the
  2351. 1:37:05adoption of the resolution. Yeah.
  2352. 1:37:07>> Okay.
  2353. 1:37:09Got it. I'll do it again.
  2354. 1:37:11I move that we read resolution number
  2355. 1:37:142026-52
  2356. 1:37:16by title only.
  2357. 1:37:17>> Second.
  2358. 1:37:19>> Discussion.
  2359. 1:37:20All those in favor?
  2360. 1:37:21>> I.
  2361. 1:37:22>> I.
  2362. 1:37:23>> Any opposed? City Clerk.
  2363. 1:37:24>> A resolution of the Flagstaff City
  2364. 1:37:26Council declaring as a public record
  2365. 1:37:28that certain document filed with the
  2366. 1:37:29City Clerk and entitled
  2367. 1:37:31PZ-26-00136-zoning
  2368. 1:37:35map amendment process.
  2369. 1:37:39>> Mayor, I move that we read ordinance
  2370. 1:37:40number 2026-27
  2371. 1:37:42by title only for the first time.
  2372. 1:37:46>> I'll second.
  2373. 1:37:48Discussion?
  2374. 1:37:49All those in favor?
  2375. 1:37:50>> I.
  2376. 1:37:51>> I.
  2377. 1:37:52>> Any opposed?
  2378. 1:37:53City Clerk.
  2379. 1:37:54>> An ordinance of the City Council of the
  2380. 1:37:55City of Flagstaff amending the Flagstaff
  2381. 1:37:57City Code Title 10 Flagstaff Zoning Code
  2382. 1:38:00by adopting by reference that certain
  2383. 1:38:02document entitled PZ-26-00136-Zoning
  2384. 1:38:07Map Amendment Process providing for
  2385. 1:38:09repeal of conflicting ordinances,
  2386. 1:38:11severability, authority for clerical
  2387. 1:38:12corrections, and establishing an
  2388. 1:38:14effective date.
  2389. 1:38:17>> Thank you.
  2390. 1:38:18Moving down to the next item, I'm going
  2391. 1:38:20to open the public hearing.
  2392. 1:38:30I believe that this is your first um
  2393. 1:38:33presentation to us, isn't it?
  2394. 1:38:34>> It is, correct.
  2395. 1:38:36>> Welcome.
  2396. 1:38:37>> Thank you.
  2397. 1:38:39Are we ready? Awesome. Um good
  2398. 1:38:41afternoon, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council
  2399. 1:38:43members. My name is Dustin Steffler. I'm
  2400. 1:38:44a planner with the current planning team
  2401. 1:38:47here at the City of Flagstaff.
  2402. 1:38:49Before you this evening is a
  2403. 1:38:52a concept zoning map amendment
  2404. 1:38:55um named Hidden Haven, uh item number
  2405. 1:38:58PZ-250008702.
  2406. 1:39:04A little information about the property
  2407. 1:39:06or the project as well. Um it it's
  2408. 1:39:08located uh just off of Lake Mary Road
  2409. 1:39:12and uh JW Powell Boulevard.
  2410. 1:39:15The proposed use will be a residential
  2411. 1:39:18subdivision.
  2412. 1:39:19And the applicant is requesting that the
  2413. 1:39:22um four parcels that comprise this
  2414. 1:39:25project site be uh rezoned from rural
  2415. 1:39:29residential RR zone with a partial
  2416. 1:39:31resource protection overlay to
  2417. 1:39:33single-family residential um
  2418. 1:39:36with a full resource protection overlay
  2419. 1:39:39across the entire site.
  2420. 1:39:44Again, the applicant is requesting the
  2421. 1:39:46rezone in order to redevelop the site as
  2422. 1:39:49a residential subdivision. This is
  2423. 1:39:51currently
  2424. 1:39:53used as trauma Sorry, travel
  2425. 1:39:55accommodations in the form of a cabin
  2426. 1:39:58resort.
  2427. 1:39:59I believe it's called Arizona Mountain
  2428. 1:40:01Inn.
  2429. 1:40:03And just a little further context, it's
  2430. 1:40:06largely to the west, east, and south
  2431. 1:40:09surrounded by US Forest Service land and
  2432. 1:40:11to the north there is existing
  2433. 1:40:13high-density and medium-density
  2434. 1:40:15residential development.
  2435. 1:40:18Again, here's an image from their
  2436. 1:40:20concept zoning plan. They are intending
  2437. 1:40:24to subdivide the the site and are
  2438. 1:40:26proposing to utilize a planned
  2439. 1:40:28residential development.
  2440. 1:40:30Overall, those major details will be
  2441. 1:40:33handled through the platting process
  2442. 1:40:35when we plat the subdivision.
  2443. 1:40:39As part of all zoning map amendments,
  2444. 1:40:41there are impact analyses. This
  2445. 1:40:44proposed
  2446. 1:40:45rezone did undergo a traffic impact
  2447. 1:40:48analysis, water and sewer impact
  2448. 1:40:49analysis, and stormwater analysis
  2449. 1:40:52through our interdivision staff review
  2450. 1:40:55process.
  2451. 1:40:58And then we come to our required
  2452. 1:41:01findings for granting a zoning map
  2453. 1:41:04amendment. The first being that the
  2454. 1:41:06proposed zoning map amendment falls
  2455. 1:41:09within with falls in line and in
  2456. 1:41:11conformance with the goals and policies
  2457. 1:41:13of the general plan and any applicable
  2458. 1:41:15specific plans.
  2459. 1:41:17Through our regional plan
  2460. 1:41:19analysis,
  2461. 1:41:21we found that there are number of goals
  2462. 1:41:23and policies
  2463. 1:41:25in the regional plan 2030. I will
  2464. 1:41:27mention that this came in prior to us
  2465. 1:41:30adopting the most current regional plan
  2466. 1:41:322045.
  2467. 1:41:34And in the goals and policies listed on
  2468. 1:41:37the screen are is um
  2469. 1:41:40are items that support the requested
  2470. 1:41:42rezone.
  2471. 1:41:45Second is that the amendment must not be
  2472. 1:41:50detrimental to the public interest,
  2473. 1:41:52health, safety, and convenience, or the
  2474. 1:41:53welfare of the city of Flagstaff, and
  2475. 1:41:56will add to the public good. Staff
  2476. 1:41:58believes that the proposed
  2477. 1:42:01rezone and proposed residential
  2478. 1:42:03development will not be detrimental to
  2479. 1:42:05the public health, safety, or welfare
  2480. 1:42:07as long as everything is developed in
  2481. 1:42:09accordance with applicable codes and
  2482. 1:42:12requirements.
  2483. 1:42:15And lastly speaks the third finding
  2484. 1:42:18speaks to the adequacy of the site
  2485. 1:42:22in terms of the physical suitable
  2486. 1:42:24physically suitable to in terms of
  2487. 1:42:26design, location, shape, size, and
  2488. 1:42:28operating characteristics,
  2489. 1:42:30items that relate to public and
  2490. 1:42:32emergency vehicle access, public
  2491. 1:42:34services, and the like. And staff has
  2492. 1:42:38found that through our interdivision
  2493. 1:42:41staff review process, the application
  2494. 1:42:45would be suitable for the the proposed
  2495. 1:42:46development or the sorry, the site would
  2496. 1:42:49be suitable for the
  2497. 1:42:50proposed development.
  2498. 1:42:53And there is also a preliminary plat
  2499. 1:42:55that has been
  2500. 1:42:57has been approved for this
  2501. 1:42:59proposed subdivision with further
  2502. 1:43:01details to be to be determined.
  2503. 1:43:06As part of all
  2504. 1:43:07zoning map amendments, there is a
  2505. 1:43:09required citizen participation plan
  2506. 1:43:12required by state law. So this involves
  2507. 1:43:16public notification in the form of
  2508. 1:43:18mailings as well as legal ads posted on
  2509. 1:43:20our local newspaper, as well as
  2510. 1:43:22neighborhood meetings. The applicant did
  2511. 1:43:24hold a virtual neighborhood meeting on
  2512. 1:43:27July 1st, which only one person did
  2513. 1:43:29attend.
  2514. 1:43:31With the low interest from the public,
  2515. 1:43:34we did as staff approved the waiver for
  2516. 1:43:37a second neighborhood meeting.
  2517. 1:43:39The or the planning and zoning
  2518. 1:43:41commission did hear this item in a in
  2519. 1:43:43the form of a public hearing on
  2520. 1:43:44September 23rd.
  2521. 1:43:46And to date staff has not received any
  2522. 1:43:48comments or um questions from the public
  2523. 1:43:51on this application.
  2524. 1:43:55And so lastly, the planning and zoning
  2525. 1:43:57commission did recommend um to forward
  2526. 1:44:00the request to the city council with a
  2527. 1:44:02recommendation of approval with a vote
  2528. 1:44:04of 5 to 0 subject to the following
  2529. 1:44:07conditions: that the water and sewer
  2530. 1:44:09main shall be extended from their
  2531. 1:44:10existing termination in Sue Drive to
  2532. 1:44:13loop throughout the proposed
  2533. 1:44:14subdivision, and that no CFO can be
  2534. 1:44:17issued until the Wildcat Interceptor
  2535. 1:44:19project is completed.
  2536. 1:44:22And at this time,
  2537. 1:44:24I am happy to take any questions or
  2538. 1:44:25comments, and I forgot to mention that
  2539. 1:44:27the applicant is present for the hearing
  2540. 1:44:29today.
  2541. 1:44:31>> Thank you. Good job.
  2542. 1:44:32>> Thank you.
  2543. 1:44:34>> Uh
  2544. 1:44:36Council member Matthews, you said after
  2545. 1:44:38public comments. I don't see any public
  2546. 1:44:40comments, so we can go ahead and and
  2547. 1:44:43just take any questions that
  2548. 1:44:45council has. So, go ahead.
  2549. 1:44:47>> Thank you, Mayor.
  2550. 1:44:49Um great job with the presentation.
  2551. 1:44:51Question, I live off Lake Mary Road, so
  2552. 1:44:54I'm very familiar with the area. Um
  2553. 1:44:58and I do know a year ago, maybe, we have
  2554. 1:45:01another development that is being worked
  2555. 1:45:03on, at least approved, up the road. When
  2556. 1:45:06we do a TIA, um
  2557. 1:45:09does the city consider
  2558. 1:45:13the collective development that is at
  2559. 1:45:16least in in queue or applied for
  2560. 1:45:19um when they're looking at the traffic
  2561. 1:45:21impact on that particular development,
  2562. 1:45:23or do do they consider everything that's
  2563. 1:45:26being planned and in the pipeline.
  2564. 1:45:29>> I'm going to differ. I believe
  2565. 1:45:32Oh,
  2566. 1:45:33Paul Moody is online. And would Paul,
  2567. 1:45:36would you be able to speak to that?
  2568. 1:45:43>> Um, can you repeat the question, please?
  2569. 1:45:46>> Yes, Paul. When when you do um when your
  2570. 1:45:49department does a TIA study,
  2571. 1:45:52um are you looking at just the impact of
  2572. 1:45:54that development or because we have some
  2573. 1:45:56other development going on up the road,
  2574. 1:45:59um are you looking at everything that's
  2575. 1:46:01in the pipeline and how it will impact
  2576. 1:46:03um that traffic on, let's say, Lake Mary
  2577. 1:46:06or
  2578. 1:46:07neighboring roads?
  2579. 1:46:09>> Yeah,
  2580. 1:46:10correct. We look at everything that's in
  2581. 1:46:11the pipeline.
  2582. 1:46:13>> Thank you. Um
  2583. 1:46:15and then could you expand a little bit
  2584. 1:46:18on the Wildcat Interceptor project and
  2585. 1:46:23what that timeline is and uh just
  2586. 1:46:26explain to the public why that's
  2587. 1:46:28important before this project gets
  2588. 1:46:30developed.
  2589. 1:46:31>> I will do my best and I may have
  2590. 1:46:33>> Lee.
  2591. 1:46:34>> Oh.
  2592. 1:46:35Perfect. Now, I'll
  2593. 1:46:37I'll invite Lee to come.
  2594. 1:46:42>> Thank you, Council Member, for the
  2595. 1:46:43question. Lee Williams, Water Services
  2596. 1:46:45Director.
  2597. 1:46:46Uh the Interceptor pipeline is the
  2598. 1:46:48largest section of sewer in the city.
  2599. 1:46:50It's approximately a mile or a mile and
  2600. 1:46:52a quarter right before it hits our end
  2601. 1:46:54of the line Wildcat Hill Wastewater
  2602. 1:46:56Treatment Plant. Existing pipe is 33 in.
  2603. 1:46:59It is at or near capacity um during
  2604. 1:47:02flooding. We had this happen last week.
  2605. 1:47:04Um it backs up because it's undersized
  2606. 1:47:06and we had uh sanitary sewer overflow in
  2607. 1:47:08Foxglen Park like we did 3 years ago
  2608. 1:47:10during the big snowmelt.
  2609. 1:47:12Uh to address your concerns on the
  2610. 1:47:14timeline, um supposed to be finished
  2611. 1:47:16next month. We are behind schedule and
  2612. 1:47:18with the um I think they're calling it a
  2613. 1:47:20mega El Nino or Godzilla El Nino
  2614. 1:47:22predicted. We're expecting a lot of slow
  2615. 1:47:24down this winter with the construction.
  2616. 1:47:26Um
  2617. 1:47:27currently hoping to have it finished um
  2618. 1:47:30in about a year, next July or so, maybe
  2619. 1:47:32July or August. And to address questions
  2620. 1:47:35about certificates of occupancy, which I
  2621. 1:47:37maybe see are forthcoming. No?
  2622. 1:47:39>> No.
  2623. 1:47:40>> No. Okay.
  2624. 1:47:41>> I just wanted that um just discussed in
  2625. 1:47:44in public. I remember being out there
  2626. 1:47:46close to Wildcat um and seeing the big
  2627. 1:47:49pipes in the construction. So, in my
  2628. 1:47:51mind I'm thinking, "Oh, you guys are
  2629. 1:47:52close to being finished or is it 10
  2630. 1:47:53years down the road?" So, that helps me
  2631. 1:47:55a lot. Thank you.
  2632. 1:47:56>> Yeah, thank you. You're welcome.
  2633. 1:47:59>> Council Member Milazzo.
  2634. 1:48:01>> Thank you. Here I go again. Um the
  2635. 1:48:04question I have is I didn't see anything
  2636. 1:48:06in
  2637. 1:48:07in any of the packet that directly
  2638. 1:48:09addresses um any kind of permanent
  2639. 1:48:11affordability in that new development.
  2640. 1:48:14Can you speak to whether that was
  2641. 1:48:16considered or what what potential
  2642. 1:48:18options there might be?
  2643. 1:48:20>> Yeah, I actually have Jennifer
  2644. 1:48:21Michaelson from housing with us here
  2645. 1:48:23tonight.
  2646. 1:48:27>> Thanks, Dustin.
  2647. 1:48:28Um hi, I'm Jennifer Michaelson, housing
  2648. 1:48:30planning manager. It's good to see you,
  2649. 1:48:32Council Member Milazzo, on this
  2650. 1:48:35dais. Um we'll miss you on the Housing
  2651. 1:48:37Commission, but congratulations as we
  2652. 1:48:39miss
  2653. 1:48:40uh Council Member House as well.
  2654. 1:48:42Um
  2655. 1:48:43the quick answer to your question is no,
  2656. 1:48:46there's no permanently affordable
  2657. 1:48:48housing being proposed with this
  2658. 1:48:50application.
  2659. 1:48:51Um housing investment staff, there's two
  2660. 1:48:54of us, me and Sullivan Moore. Um we have
  2661. 1:48:57been integrated into the um
  2662. 1:48:59interdivisional staff
  2663. 1:49:02meeting process, which is a development
  2664. 1:49:04review process, um where all city
  2665. 1:49:07departments are gathered to review um
  2666. 1:49:09new development applications. So, we are
  2667. 1:49:11aware every time there's a a new
  2668. 1:49:14residential application that comes in.
  2669. 1:49:16Um and there are default comments. I I
  2670. 1:49:20don't know exactly when the default
  2671. 1:49:21comments are sent out or seen by the
  2672. 1:49:24applicant, but every division has sort
  2673. 1:49:27of like standard boilerplate um
  2674. 1:49:29information that they want to relay to
  2675. 1:49:31to to applicants. And our affordable
  2676. 1:49:33housing incentives are part of those.
  2677. 1:49:35So, we're always making um
  2678. 1:49:38applicants, developers aware that we do
  2679. 1:49:40have affordable housing incentives at
  2680. 1:49:42the city. We do welcome any conversation
  2681. 1:49:45about affordability, um whether it meets
  2682. 1:49:47the code or not, frankly. Um
  2683. 1:49:50but I I I haven't been closely involved
  2684. 1:49:52with this rezoning. I think those
  2685. 1:49:54comments were sent. I have not met with
  2686. 1:49:55this applicant specifically, but I do I
  2687. 1:49:59do have meetings like that often. It's
  2688. 1:50:01just usually obviously a matter of
  2689. 1:50:03finances and
  2690. 1:50:05money and those kind of considerations.
  2691. 1:50:07Um
  2692. 1:50:09but yeah.
  2693. 1:50:10>> Great, that answers my question. Thank
  2694. 1:50:11you.
  2695. 1:50:12>> Okay.
  2696. 1:50:16>> Any additional
  2697. 1:50:18questions?
  2698. 1:50:20We have no public comment, so I'm going
  2699. 1:50:22to close the public hearing and I'm
  2700. 1:50:25looking for a motion.
  2701. 1:50:30>> Mayor, I move to read ordinance number
  2702. 1:50:332026-28
  2703. 1:50:35by title only for the first time.
  2704. 1:50:37>> I'll second.
  2705. 1:50:38>> Discussion?
  2706. 1:50:40All those in favor?
  2707. 1:50:41>> I.
  2708. 1:50:42>> I.
  2709. 1:50:43>> Any opposed?
  2710. 1:50:44City Clerk.
  2711. 1:50:45>> An ordinance of the City Council of the
  2712. 1:50:47City of Flagstaff amending the Flagstaff
  2713. 1:50:49zoning map to rezone approximately 13.01
  2714. 1:50:52acres of real property generally located
  2715. 1:50:55at 4200 South Lake Mary Road. APNs
  2716. 1:50:59105-05-001A,
  2717. 1:51:031050502002B,
  2718. 1:51:0810505002C,
  2719. 1:51:12and 10505002D
  2720. 1:51:16from the rural residential RR zone with
  2721. 1:51:19partial resource protection overlay RPO
  2722. 1:51:22to single family residential R1 zone
  2723. 1:51:25with full RPO providing for severability
  2724. 1:51:27authority for clerical corrections and
  2725. 1:51:29establishing an effective date.
  2726. 1:51:33Easy for you to say.
  2727. 1:51:35All right. Thank you.
  2728. 1:51:38And moving down to our regular agenda,
  2729. 1:51:42item 13A consideration and adoption of
  2730. 1:51:45resolution number 2026-50.
  2731. 1:51:51>> Good afternoon.
  2732. 1:51:53Allison Hughes with Flagstaff Police
  2733. 1:51:55Department. Before you tonight are five
  2734. 1:51:57intergovernmental agreements for
  2735. 1:51:58dispatch services between the city and
  2736. 1:52:00our partner fire agencies, Blue Ridge
  2737. 1:52:02Fire District, Summit Fire, Highlands
  2738. 1:52:05Fire, Pinewood Fire, and Forest Lakes
  2739. 1:52:07Fire District. The Flagstaff Police
  2740. 1:52:09Department's Communication Center is the
  2741. 1:52:11primary 911 answering point for this
  2742. 1:52:13region.
  2743. 1:52:14In addition to dispatching for Flagstaff
  2744. 1:52:16Police and Fire, our dispatchers handle
  2745. 1:52:18every call for service in these
  2746. 1:52:20districts' response areas 24/7
  2747. 1:52:23a week. These agreements put that
  2748. 1:52:25existing relationship in writing and on
  2749. 1:52:27current terms. They do not change the
  2750. 1:52:29service the districts receive or add any
  2751. 1:52:32new obligations to our dispatch center.
  2752. 1:52:34These agreements give each district and
  2753. 1:52:36the city one consistent set of terms
  2754. 1:52:38with a 5-year term with option to renew.
  2755. 1:52:41The agreements also include language
  2756. 1:52:43that better protects the city if the
  2757. 1:52:45state is not able to continue funding
  2758. 1:52:47the full cost of the 911. The Arizona
  2759. 1:52:49Department Administration helps fund the
  2760. 1:52:51regional 911 system. If that support is
  2761. 1:52:54reduced, these agreements make sure the
  2762. 1:52:56cost of keeping the system running is
  2763. 1:52:57shared fairly among the agencies that
  2764. 1:52:59use it rather than falling on the city
  2765. 1:53:01alone.
  2766. 1:53:02To do that, the agreement set a clear
  2767. 1:53:04transparent cost recovery method. That
  2768. 1:53:06method is a per call rate. We take the
  2769. 1:53:09total annual cost of operating the
  2770. 1:53:10communication center, including
  2771. 1:53:12personnel, software, and the share of
  2772. 1:53:14administrative costs, and divide it by
  2773. 1:53:16the total number of calls for service.
  2774. 1:53:18>> [snorts]
  2775. 1:53:19>> In short, each agency pays for the
  2776. 1:53:21service that they receive.
  2777. 1:53:23The agreements that were developed in
  2778. 1:53:25close partnership with fire districts.
  2779. 1:53:27Every district, along with its legal
  2780. 1:53:29counsel, had opportunity to review the
  2781. 1:53:30drafts and request changes. I want to
  2782. 1:53:32thank our partner fire chiefs, their
  2783. 1:53:34staff, the city attorney's office, and
  2784. 1:53:36our communications team for their work
  2785. 1:53:38on the agreements. Staff recommends
  2786. 1:53:40approval of the five intergovernmental
  2787. 1:53:42agreements, and I'm happy to answer any
  2788. 1:53:43questions.
  2789. 1:53:45>> Thank you.
  2790. 1:53:47Council member Milazzo.
  2791. 1:53:50>> I'm really sorry. Um, I do have a
  2792. 1:53:52question. How um
  2793. 1:53:56how close to how quickly or how close to
  2794. 1:53:59being over capacity in a like a major
  2795. 1:54:02emergency is our system when if this is
  2796. 1:54:05adopted? How like what could we handle?
  2797. 1:54:08Could we handle calls from everywhere?
  2798. 1:54:11Or just Coconino County, or what? Could
  2799. 1:54:14you give me some idea of what we could
  2800. 1:54:16handle?
  2801. 1:54:16>> Absolutely. Um, so this is not an
  2802. 1:54:19additional service than we are we are
  2803. 1:54:21providing the same service. We do this
  2804. 1:54:22today. Um, we're not adding any
  2805. 1:54:24additional districts, any other
  2806. 1:54:26additional service. So, it's what we
  2807. 1:54:27currently do today. Um, with that being
  2808. 1:54:29said, we are at max capacity. Um, adding
  2809. 1:54:32any additional with the staff we have
  2810. 1:54:34currently would be very difficult.
  2811. 1:54:37Yeah.
  2812. 1:54:40>> And never apologize for asking
  2813. 1:54:41questions, ever, ever.
  2814. 1:54:45Any additional questions?
  2815. 1:54:48All right, looking for a motion.
  2816. 1:54:51>> Mayor, I move that read resolution
  2817. 1:54:53number 2026-50
  2818. 1:54:56by title only.
  2819. 1:54:58>> I second.
  2820. 1:54:59>> Discussion?
  2821. 1:55:00All those in favor?
  2822. 1:55:01>> I.
  2823. 1:55:03>> Any opposed?
  2824. 1:55:04City clerk.
  2825. 1:55:05>> A resolution of the Flagstaff City
  2826. 1:55:07Council approving intergovernmental
  2827. 1:55:09agreements between Blue Ridge Fire
  2828. 1:55:10District, Forest Lakes Fire District,
  2829. 1:55:13Highlands Fire District, Pinewood Fire
  2830. 1:55:15Department and Summit Fire District and
  2831. 1:55:17the City of Flagstaff for regional
  2832. 1:55:19emergency dispatch services.
  2833. 1:55:23>> Thank you.
  2834. 1:55:23>> I move that we adopt resolution number
  2835. 1:55:252026-50.
  2836. 1:55:28>> Second.
  2837. 1:55:30>> Discussion?
  2838. 1:55:31All those in favor?
  2839. 1:55:32>> I.
  2840. 1:55:33>> I.
  2841. 1:55:33>> I.
  2842. 1:55:34>> Any opposed?
  2843. 1:55:36Thank you, Allison.
  2844. 1:55:38All right, we're moving down to item
  2845. 1:55:41number 14, future agenda item requests.
  2846. 1:55:46Is the
  2847. 1:55:47um
  2848. 1:55:50is the individual who submitted the
  2849. 1:55:52petitions here?
  2850. 1:55:56>> They do not appear to be in attendance.
  2851. 1:55:59>> Okay.
  2852. 1:56:00So, um
  2853. 1:56:02council
  2854. 1:56:04and and for members of the public who
  2855. 1:56:06would like to read the petitions,
  2856. 1:56:08they're included in the packet in the
  2857. 1:56:10agenda item.
  2858. 1:56:11Um
  2859. 1:56:13normally we don't have
  2860. 1:56:16discussion around why we want to move it
  2861. 1:56:20forward or don't want to move it
  2862. 1:56:22forward.
  2863. 1:56:23And so
  2864. 1:56:25I am allowing um brief descriptions
  2865. 1:56:29about why you are choosing whatever
  2866. 1:56:32you're choosing,
  2867. 1:56:34um but
  2868. 1:56:36Council member Milazzo, in case you're
  2869. 1:56:39Oh, and I see that Got you. Um Council
  2870. 1:56:43member Milazzo, typically what happens
  2871. 1:56:45is
  2872. 1:56:46um someone will submit a petition
  2873. 1:56:50and it's on the agenda and council just
  2874. 1:56:54decides whether to move it forward for
  2875. 1:56:56discussion or not move it forward for
  2876. 1:56:58discussion. So, we're at that point
  2877. 1:57:00right now where we're deciding whether
  2878. 1:57:02to move it forward for discussion.
  2879. 1:57:05So, Council member House.
  2880. 1:57:08>> Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate you
  2881. 1:57:09giving the opportunity to give very
  2882. 1:57:12brief comments on this and I will keep
  2883. 1:57:14it very brief. Um I just wanted to to
  2884. 1:57:17let it be known by the community and the
  2885. 1:57:20the folks that put this petition forward
  2886. 1:57:22that um
  2887. 1:57:24my uh vote not to move this forward is
  2888. 1:57:27not um a disregard of the concern or the
  2889. 1:57:31consideration that they're bringing
  2890. 1:57:32forward. It's the fact that we are
  2891. 1:57:34already doing a lot of this. Um we have
  2892. 1:57:37a technology task force that's
  2893. 1:57:39considering things including AI policy
  2894. 1:57:43uh items.
  2895. 1:57:44And so, um this is this is something
  2896. 1:57:47that's already well in the works and I
  2897. 1:57:49just wanted to acknowledge that for the
  2898. 1:57:51petition submitter and for the
  2899. 1:57:53community. Thank you.
  2900. 1:57:55>> Thank you.
  2901. 1:57:56Council member Oh, wait. Council member
  2902. 1:57:59No.
  2903. 1:58:00Council member Azlan.
  2904. 1:58:04>> I don't care what order we go in. Um
  2905. 1:58:06but I do want to just address these very
  2906. 1:58:08briefly. I find these uh too prescripted
  2907. 1:58:11and um too problematically worded in
  2908. 1:58:14order to advance either of them.
  2909. 1:58:16But I just want to let the petitioners
  2910. 1:58:18know that I understand the spirit behind
  2911. 1:58:20uh submitting this petition and all of
  2912. 1:58:22the signatures that you received.
  2913. 1:58:25I do think that we are still in a place
  2914. 1:58:28where we can strengthen our um our
  2915. 1:58:30technology advisory board and turn it
  2916. 1:58:33into more of an advisory board. Uh I
  2917. 1:58:36think that if we're going to move
  2918. 1:58:37forward on very very necessary and very
  2919. 1:58:40urgent conversations around the use of
  2920. 1:58:42emergent technologies in our police
  2921. 1:58:44department that we need to have a a
  2922. 1:58:47meaningful citizen involvement and
  2923. 1:58:49meaningful citizen oversight. And I look
  2924. 1:58:52forward to continuing that evolution on
  2925. 1:58:55these things. But
  2926. 1:58:57for example, before we really get into a
  2927. 1:58:59conversation about drone usage as first
  2928. 1:59:02responders,
  2929. 1:59:03the public needs to be brought along on
  2930. 1:59:05on these conversations. And one of the
  2931. 1:59:07things that I think that is a real
  2932. 1:59:09sticking point is the the the idea that
  2933. 1:59:11they feel heard, they feel seen, they
  2934. 1:59:14feel that their their advice is being
  2935. 1:59:17taken seriously
  2936. 1:59:18and
  2937. 1:59:19and hopefully implemented. So,
  2938. 1:59:22looking forward to that evolution. This
  2939. 1:59:24is not the right path
  2940. 1:59:25for going down that though.
  2941. 1:59:32>> I I
  2942. 1:59:33I have a very short comment, please.
  2943. 1:59:34>> Please.
  2944. 1:59:35>> I
  2945. 1:59:36I am in agreement with Council Member
  2946. 1:59:38House and Council Member Aslan.
  2947. 1:59:40There are some issues with these
  2948. 1:59:42petitions as written.
  2949. 1:59:44If they were to come back, maybe I could
  2950. 1:59:46change my mind, but right now I'm going
  2951. 1:59:49to be a no for moving these forward.
  2952. 1:59:51>> Thank you. City Manager.
  2953. 1:59:54>> Mayor and Council, just an update. We
  2954. 1:59:56actually had the privacy task force met
  2955. 1:59:59yesterday and had a very
  2956. 2:00:02productive and robust discussion on on
  2957. 2:00:06directives related to privacy and
  2958. 2:00:09actually use of technology. We'll be
  2959. 2:00:12getting an update to Council on November
  2960. 2:00:1510th. We'll We'll be bringing some of
  2961. 2:00:17those directives forward and then also
  2962. 2:00:20kind of what that process looks like
  2963. 2:00:22moving forward. So, we're looking
  2964. 2:00:23forward to having that discussion with
  2965. 2:00:25Council.
  2966. 2:00:26>> Thank you.
  2967. 2:00:27So,
  2968. 2:00:29are we
  2969. 2:00:31Is it unanimous that we don't want to
  2970. 2:00:33move this forward?
  2971. 2:00:36Okay. Thank you.
  2972. 2:00:39Open call to the public. I see none.
  2973. 2:00:43>> Mayor.
  2974. 2:00:44We have a second petition.
  2975. 2:00:45>> one, too.
  2976. 2:00:46>> Item B.
  2977. 2:00:47Oh, I'm sorry. I was
  2978. 2:00:50Um yeah, I assumed it was both as well.
  2979. 2:00:53Um council, same on the second one?
  2980. 2:00:56Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
  2981. 2:00:59And moving down to 15, open call to the
  2982. 2:01:02public. Seeing nothing.
  2983. 2:01:05All right, then announcements and
  2984. 2:01:07updates to from council and city
  2985. 2:01:09manager. Let's start with council member
  2986. 2:01:11Spence.
  2987. 2:01:12>> Nothing this evening.
  2988. 2:01:15>> House? Nothing tonight. Thank you,
  2989. 2:01:17Mayor. Welcome, councilman from Malazo.
  2990. 2:01:21>> Yes, welcome, council member. We're
  2991. 2:01:23excited to have you. Um just a couple of
  2992. 2:01:25things. Last week, I attended the
  2993. 2:01:27Arizona Transportation Policy Summit.
  2994. 2:01:30All things transportation. It was great.
  2995. 2:01:32And a special shout-out to Kate Morley
  2996. 2:01:35and her team for
  2997. 2:01:37putting on such a wonderful and
  2998. 2:01:39thought-provoking conference.
  2999. 2:01:41Many of us attended the Jean Munger
  3000. 2:01:43Memorial Bench Dedication. Very
  3001. 2:01:46heartwarming, and I'm glad to see so
  3002. 2:01:48many of us there.
  3003. 2:01:49And uh Saturday, not only was it the NAU
  3004. 2:01:52homecoming, where they did another win,
  3005. 2:01:56but I did attend the NAU Semiconductor
  3006. 2:01:59Laboratory Ribbon Cutting.
  3007. 2:02:01And um just fascinated by the technology
  3008. 2:02:04that we have right here in Flagstaff.
  3009. 2:02:07And it's a great um move for economic
  3010. 2:02:10development, and just really excited to
  3011. 2:02:12have that here in our town.
  3012. 2:02:17>> Councilmember Aslan?
  3013. 2:02:18>> Nothing for me, Madam Mayor.
  3014. 2:02:19Congratulations, Councilmember Malazo.
  3015. 2:02:23>> Councilmember Malazo.
  3016. 2:02:24>> I have several things. Thank you all to
  3017. 2:02:27to all of council for welcoming me so
  3018. 2:02:29much. Um I've felt incredibly welcomed
  3019. 2:02:32by you all, and I really appreciate
  3020. 2:02:34that. I'd also like to thank city staff
  3021. 2:02:37for just an incredibly
  3022. 2:02:39zippity-zip
  3023. 2:02:41amount of work to get me ready for today
  3024. 2:02:44and it's been
  3025. 2:02:46absolutely wonderful. I knew housing
  3026. 2:02:48staff was already wonderful cuz I've
  3027. 2:02:50worked with them for about 10 years, but
  3028. 2:02:52the rest of city staff have also been
  3029. 2:02:54just lovely. Thank you so much for
  3030. 2:02:57making me feel welcome here. Um and then
  3031. 2:03:00finally, I'd like to put out the call
  3032. 2:03:02for somebody to replace me on the
  3033. 2:03:05Housing Authority Board and on the
  3034. 2:03:06Housing Commission cuz we need people on
  3035. 2:03:09both of those boards and commissions.
  3036. 2:03:11Thank you.
  3037. 2:03:13>> Council Member Matthews.
  3038. 2:03:14>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I too was at Jean
  3039. 2:03:17Munger's bench dedication. It was really
  3040. 2:03:20lovely. Um and a great group of people.
  3041. 2:03:23I also attended the Baskin-Robbins
  3042. 2:03:26um new the ribbon cutting at their new
  3043. 2:03:28location and a use um homecoming.
  3044. 2:03:32And I also attended the NAH Summit
  3045. 2:03:35ribbon cutting where uh still a portion
  3046. 2:03:38of their building is open now and it's
  3047. 2:03:41very high-tech, very impressive. Uh
  3048. 2:03:44looking forward, this Thursday there is
  3049. 2:03:46an open house with our uh Flagstaff
  3050. 2:03:49Police Department from 3:00 to 6:00 on
  3051. 2:03:52Thursday.
  3052. 2:03:53And I look forward to attending that.
  3053. 2:03:57Um
  3054. 2:03:58and I think that's it. Thank you.
  3055. 2:04:00>> Thank you.
  3056. 2:04:01I have a question for Chief. Will there
  3057. 2:04:03be snacks at this open house?
  3058. 2:04:05>> Of course. No donuts.
  3059. 2:04:09>> There will be snacks at this open house.
  3060. 2:04:12Let the public know that. Um however, no
  3061. 2:04:14donuts.
  3062. 2:04:16Um
  3063. 2:04:18there's also an open house on Friday for
  3064. 2:04:21Fire Station 5, which is the fire
  3065. 2:04:24station that is on uh Fort Valley Road
  3066. 2:04:27and that is from 3:00 to 5:00. You can
  3067. 2:04:29just drop in and and see what uh
  3068. 2:04:34see how a fire station is run and talk
  3069. 2:04:37to firefighters.
  3070. 2:04:39That is all I have, city manager.
  3071. 2:04:42>> Um mayor, council, just a quick update.
  3072. 2:04:44I returned um probably 15 minutes before
  3073. 2:04:48we started council today from the
  3074. 2:04:49International City County Managers
  3075. 2:04:52Association conference in Long Beach. Um
  3076. 2:04:55Shannon Anderson, our our assistant city
  3077. 2:04:57manager, and our deputy city manager,
  3078. 2:04:59Mary, are still there. Um
  3079. 2:05:01Um but I I wanted to share that it's an
  3080. 2:05:04opportunity for us to um network with
  3081. 2:05:07other communities and learn what other
  3082. 2:05:08communities are doing. And what I
  3083. 2:05:11continue to find out is that people are
  3084. 2:05:14also learning from us.
  3085. 2:05:16So, um it was a really great opportunity
  3086. 2:05:18to see our Arizona managers and then
  3087. 2:05:21also staff from um around the country
  3088. 2:05:24who really look to Flagstaff as a
  3089. 2:05:26leader. So, I just wanted to pass that
  3090. 2:05:28on and a lot of that is because of you.
  3091. 2:05:31So, thank you.
  3092. 2:05:33>> Thank you. And I did forget to mention
  3093. 2:05:35one thing. On Thursday morning, 7:00 uh
  3094. 2:05:388:00 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. is the coffee
  3095. 2:05:42with the mayor at Mix 'n' Wins on 4th
  3096. 2:05:45Street. And public safety leadership
  3097. 2:05:47will be there. Um Shannon from the city
  3098. 2:05:50manager's office will be there with any
  3099. 2:05:54question you could possibly have about
  3100. 2:05:57or answers to any question you could
  3101. 2:05:59possibly have on propositions 404 and
  3102. 2:06:01405. And as people are turning in their
  3103. 2:06:05ballots, I urge you to um make sure you
  3104. 2:06:09have all the information you need. If
  3105. 2:06:11you can't make it to this coffee,
  3106. 2:06:14public safety ballot.com
  3107. 2:06:18will give you um
  3108. 2:06:21lots of information. So,

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