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- 0:06For 50 years, the Central Intelligence
- 0:09Agency was the vanguard of America's
- 0:11cold war against the Soviet Empire. Its
- 0:14heart and soul lay in its ground troops,
- 0:16the men of the DO, the directorate of
- 0:19operations.
- 0:21Secrecy was their shield. Covert action
- 0:23and espionage their weapons.
- 0:26He used to call it the great game, but
- 0:28it was an extremely serious game of life
- 0:31and death between two superpowers.
- 0:34You could get killed. It's a dangerous
- 0:36job.
- 0:38If you don't, you'll come home having
- 0:40said it was the best job you ever had.
- 0:42>> I said, tell Abu Abbas that I'm coming
- 0:45after him, and when I get to him, I'm
- 0:48going to kill him.
- 0:501997 marks a half century for the CIA.
- 0:55America's secret warriors are finally
- 0:57emerging from the shadows to tell the
- 0:58stories of their battles against
- 1:00communism.
- 1:02Today, the agency confronts a new world
- 1:04order fraught with terrorists, global
- 1:06organized crime, and illegal drugs. It
- 1:09must now pass its most crucial test yet.
- 1:11Learning from its past, finding a new
- 1:14role for the future. The two oldest
- 1:16professions in the world are
- 1:17prostitution and espionage. They go back
- 1:20to biblical times.
- 1:23They've always been done in exactly the
- 1:26same way for centuries.
- 1:29Now, does anybody think they're going to
- 1:31be changed in the 21st century just
- 1:34because the American people don't like
- 1:36the idea?
- 1:58The body of William Colby, director of
- 2:00the CIA in the mid1 1970s, washed up
- 2:02today on a river bank in southeastern
- 2:04Maryland. A police spokesman said that
- 2:06Colby had apparently drowned while
- 2:08canoeing more than a week ago.
- 2:20When William Colby died in May 1996,
- 2:24some saw his memorial as the last rights
- 2:26for the CIA itself.
- 2:29William Colby served his nation as a spy
- 2:32who saw himself firstly as a public
- 2:35servant, especially during that sinister
- 2:38political season we called the Cold War.
- 2:42They were a brotherhood, a bold and
- 2:45secret fraternity respected, feared, and
- 2:47reviled throughout the world.
- 2:50William Colby was a charter member who
- 2:52personified its highest aspirations and
- 2:55presided over some of its most brutal
- 2:57failures.
- 3:00>> He has been called a soldiered priest or
- 3:02a soldier monk. But I would say that the
- 3:04combination of those two qualities makes
- 3:06a very good intelligence officer. A
- 3:08combination of having the moral high
- 3:10ground and a an ability to be ruthless
- 3:13when you have to be.
- 3:20For the secret warriors, the world was
- 3:22the battleground. They were the
- 3:24guardians of the AY's mystique and
- 3:26reputation.
- 3:28A small cadre who fought the covert wars
- 3:30of sabotage, propaganda, and subversion.
- 3:35These were the men of the DO,
- 3:37the Directorate of Operations.
- 3:41The essence and the soul of the CIA is
- 3:44in the Directorate of Operations. You
- 3:46know, that's what's special about CIA.
- 3:48>> The DO is the CIA. Without the DO, the
- 3:51CIA looks like Rand Corporation or
- 3:53anything else.
- 3:54>> The director of operations has become
- 3:57really the president's last centurions.
- 3:59They will march for him. Whatever party
- 4:02he comes from,
- 4:05>> the Secret Warriors marched for nine
- 4:07presidents during the Cold War. Today,
- 4:09their legacy is tarnished and faded. But
- 4:12in the beginning, they were among
- 4:13America's best and brightest.
- 4:23It started with Pearl Harbor.
- 4:27The surprise attack that brought America
- 4:29into World War II should have been no
- 4:31surprise at all.
- 4:33The military had compiled enough
- 4:35intelligence to know that the Japanese
- 4:36were coming, but failed to put the
- 4:39pieces together.
- 4:42William Wild Bill Donovan, a World War I
- 4:44hero and Wall Street lawyer, was brought
- 4:46in by President Roosevelt to head the
- 4:48Office of Strategic Services, the OSS.
- 4:52Donovan's mission was to bring America's
- 4:54intelligence operations under one roof.
- 4:57He had a tremendous field for people. He
- 4:59had that knack. He remembered every
- 5:01name. He remembered every scene. So when
- 5:03Roosevelt gave him the go-ahead to set
- 5:05up this office, why he wrote to the top
- 5:07university people, to the top banking
- 5:08people, to the top business people, to
- 5:10the top scientists, the top engineers,
- 5:12he got them all to come to Washington
- 5:14like a pipe piper to the tables at
- 5:19the place where
- 5:21the dear old
- 5:25>> Yale University spawned many officers of
- 5:27the OSS and later the CIA.
- 5:31It was a world of establishment ties and
- 5:33secret societies, small elite
- 5:35fraternities that became the model for
- 5:37the intelligence brotherhood.
- 5:40>> The senior societies are very important
- 5:42at Yale. There was about 90 people out
- 5:44of 700 who graduated who were in them
- 5:47and they were not all the outstanding
- 5:50people but they tended to be people who
- 5:52had accomplished something and it was I
- 5:55guess that horrible word male bonding
- 5:57but I mean you got to know these people
- 5:59very very well. We are poor little lambs
- 6:02who have lost our way.
- 6:08>> Jack Northrup graduated from Yale in
- 6:101943. From his class alone, 42 men went
- 6:14into the intelligence service. Among the
- 6:16insiders, the OSS earned the nickname oh
- 6:20social.
- 6:21A lot of these Ivy Leaguers, the sons of
- 6:24JP Morgan and various others, all
- 6:26collected around OSS because they
- 6:29thought, "This is going to be
- 6:30interesting work. Donovan's a leader.
- 6:32We'll get in there and win the war."
- 6:36>> Richard Helms, a Williams College
- 6:38graduate, played a key role in
- 6:40organizing Donovan's European Spy
- 6:42Network, the intelligence gathering arm
- 6:44of the OSS.
- 6:47William Colby came out of Princeton and
- 6:49worked the covert action arm of the OSS.
- 6:53>> You were dropped into some resistance
- 6:55area and then you were supposed to bring
- 6:57in more guns and more explosive and so
- 7:00forth and report intelligence that you
- 7:02learned, help them organize, train them
- 7:05on some of the new weapons that they'd
- 7:06never seen, that sort of thing.
- 7:10When World War II ended, the United
- 7:13States hoped its victory would usher in
- 7:14a new era of peace. The armed forces
- 7:17were demobilized and the OSS was
- 7:19disbanded.
- 7:23But Stalin's Red Army occupied Eastern
- 7:26Europe and the Soviet Empire was taking
- 7:28aim at capitalism around the world.
- 7:33Here was another totalitarianism,
- 7:36the same kind of threat that we'd faced
- 7:38from Hitler. same expansionist
- 7:40totalitarian power that we had to stand
- 7:43up to. Well, obviously intelligence is
- 7:45part of that.
- 7:46>> Old enemies became new friends as the
- 7:49free world faced the communist threat.
- 7:52General Reinhardt Galen had been
- 7:54Hitler's commander of intelligence
- 7:55against the Soviet military. He was
- 7:57recruited by US intelligence to head a
- 7:59team of ex-Nazis who were paid to be
- 8:01America's eyes and ears behind the Iron
- 8:04Curtain. It was the first in a long
- 8:06history of unholy alliances.
- 8:09>> You never like to use Nazis, but we
- 8:11needed their information. They had a a
- 8:13very good intelligence operation on the
- 8:16Soviet army and on the board and they've
- 8:18been working there for a long time. I
- 8:20just felt it was a necessary thing to
- 8:21don't like to kill people either, but
- 8:23you know, if you're in the Marine Corps
- 8:25and you're on a coral reef, you're
- 8:26attacking a Carl reef, you don't worry
- 8:28too much about the fact you're killing
- 8:29Japanese to take the island. The world
- 8:33is tired of political fanaticism.
- 8:37>> National security became the national
- 8:39priority. In July 1947, President Harry
- 8:43Truman signed the act that gave birth to
- 8:45the Central Intelligence Agency.
- 8:49The CIA's mandate was to help the
- 8:51president of the United States contain
- 8:53the Soviet menace. When diplomacy or
- 8:56military action was inadvisable or
- 8:57impossible, the president could turn to
- 9:00his secret warriors. Their operations
- 9:02would be hidden not only from America's
- 9:04foes, but also from its elected
- 9:06officials and its citizens. If a covert
- 9:09action was discovered, the president
- 9:11could disavow knowledge of it. This
- 9:13doctrine came to be called plausible
- 9:15deniability.
- 9:20At Republican headquarters, a tremendous
- 9:22ovation greets the president-elect and
- 9:24the next first lady, a deeming Ike and a
- 9:27radiant baby. The long campaign is over.
- 9:30The American Eisenhower took office. He
- 9:32brought with him two brothers to run a
- 9:34foreign policy dedicated to stopping
- 9:36communism in its tracks.
- 9:38John Foster Dulles, a Wall Street power
- 9:41broker, took over as Secretary of State.
- 9:44Allan Dulles, a dapper Princeton OSS man
- 9:47with an appetite for covert action, was
- 9:49his shadow counterpart at CIA.
- 9:52Allan loved the great game. He'd had
- 9:54tremendous experience as a really as a
- 9:56case officer as head of OSS in
- 9:58Switzerland during the war. and uh he
- 10:00had a tremendous enthusiasm, great
- 10:03charm.
- 10:04He was sometimes called the great white
- 10:06case officer.
- 10:09Only months after taking office, the
- 10:11Eisenhower Dulles covert action program
- 10:14began to pay dividends.
- 10:19Former Premier Mussed's ruined house is
- 10:22a mute testimony to three days of bloody
- 10:24rioting culminating.
- 10:25>> In 1953, when Iran's prime minister
- 10:28threatened to nationalize British
- 10:29American oil interests, the CIA took
- 10:32action. A few agency officers hired a
- 10:35local mob to protest against the
- 10:36government. Mosedc was toppled. The
- 10:39pro-American sha was returned to power.
- 10:42The Brotherhood had orchestrated its
- 10:44first coup. The sha who had fled to Rome
- 10:46comes home. Iranian oil may again flow
- 10:50westward.
- 10:53>> In Guatemala a year later, it was
- 10:55bananas instead of oil. A popularly
- 10:58elected left-wing government threatened
- 11:00to seize property to give to the
- 11:01peasants. The plantations belonged to
- 11:04Guatemala's largest land owner,
- 11:05America's United Fruit Company. The
- 11:08Dulles brothers, who had close ties to
- 11:10the corporate giant, saw a communist
- 11:12menace looming south of the border.
- 11:15It wasn't anything but business
- 11:16interest. Had nothing to do with
- 11:18communism. It just had the fact that the
- 11:20the government had taken over land that
- 11:23belonged to the United Fruit Company and
- 11:25they can't do that.
- 11:27>> Philip Reinger, a former marine, was one
- 11:29of the CIA's men assigned to Guatemala.
- 11:32The CIA disguised old American planes to
- 11:34look like Guatemalan rebel aircraft and
- 11:36faked radio reports to create the
- 11:38illusion of a mass revolt.
- 11:41There were several stations being
- 11:42broadcast and they staged things like uh
- 11:45uh uh colonel now move your troops over
- 11:48this way and then uh Colonel so and so
- 11:50and then uh and then try and of course
- 11:52they didn't have any colonels or
- 11:53anything but they would would make it
- 11:55sound like there was there was a regular
- 11:57army invasion. It was a wild you know I
- 12:01thought at the time I said this cannot
- 12:02work which won't work but it did work.
- 12:08The assault has begun on the
- 12:09dictatorship of Fidel Castro. Cuban army
- 12:12pilot.
- 12:13>> The Brotherhood led by Alan Dulles was
- 12:14on a roll, but the great game ran a
- 12:17ground in 1961 at Cuba's Bay of Pigs.
- 12:20The CIA trained and armed a brigade of
- 12:22Cuban exiles to attack the island in the
- 12:24hope of provoking the people to
- 12:25overthrow Fidel Castro.
- 12:29The illconceived operation was a
- 12:31disaster, and worse, the agency failed
- 12:33to conceal its role. There was no
- 12:36plausible deniability for the new
- 12:37president, John F. Kennedy.
- 12:39>> As I've said from the beginning, the
- 12:40operation was a failure and that the
- 12:43responsibility rests with the White
- 12:45House.
- 12:46>> Kennedy was livid. Privately, he said
- 12:48that he wanted to smash the CIA into a
- 12:51thousand pieces. A few months later, he
- 12:53fired Alan Dulles. The man who molded
- 12:56the CIA's mission and mystique was
- 12:58shamed. The Brotherhood was no longer
- 13:01invisible or invincible.
- 13:07Let the word go forth from this time and
- 13:10place to friend and foe alike
- 13:15that the torch has been passed to a new
- 13:18generation of Americans.
- 13:20>> The clarion call of John Kennedy's
- 13:22presidency inspired a new generation of
- 13:25college students. ask not.
- 13:27>> We had an incredibly large amount of
- 13:30faith in the institutions of government
- 13:32at the time. And within every campus
- 13:34just about in the United States were a
- 13:36number of of educators uh professors
- 13:40that were in fact spotting for CIA, for
- 13:43Peace Corps, for anybody the the the
- 13:45foreign service. And we had an America
- 13:47incorporated that had a common goal of
- 13:49some sort. what I I saw my life as is uh
- 13:53advancing the interests of the American
- 13:55people or government in foreign affairs
- 13:59and and really it was you can say as as
- 14:02naive and as simple as that.
- 14:04>> I can't get over the feeling that I had
- 14:07when I showed up. This was an outfit
- 14:10that had an image that only the best and
- 14:12brightest from the Ivy League schools
- 14:13with tremendous political connections
- 14:15got in the door. And the truth of the
- 14:17matter is I was really grateful to be
- 14:19there.
- 14:20>> I considered the agency at that time as
- 14:23something like an adult boy scouts who
- 14:26were looking then for young active men
- 14:30to handle their paramilitary operations.
- 14:35>> America's young commander-in-chief was
- 14:38also James Bond's most famous fan.
- 14:40Though he had been burned badly by the
- 14:42Bay of Pigs, Kennedy was still intrigued
- 14:44by the possibilities of covert action.
- 14:47Kennedy brought forth the romance of
- 14:52counterinsurgency warfare to fight this
- 14:54new type of warfare, this secret
- 14:56warfare, and we in essence were the
- 14:59secret warriors caught up in his
- 15:01movement. Security of all Southeast Asia
- 15:05will be endangered if Laos loses its
- 15:09neutral independence.
- 15:10>> As the countries of Southeast Asia began
- 15:12to liberate themselves from colonial
- 15:13rule, the US government worried that
- 15:16they would turn to communism. A crucial
- 15:18test came in the tiny country of Laos.
- 15:23By 1961,
- 15:25communist insurgents were beginning to
- 15:27make headway against the American backed
- 15:28ocean government. Kennedy ordered the
- 15:30CIA to keep them at bay. The secret
- 15:33warriors went high into the mountains to
- 15:35recruit and train native Mung tribesmen.
- 15:37They would be taught to counter the
- 15:39Soviet back gorillas, the Pathet Lao.
- 15:43One of the first men there was Tony Poe,
- 15:46a hardrinking marine veteran of Ewoima
- 15:49and Korea. He had also taken part in a
- 15:51daring rescue of the Daly Lama from the
- 15:52communist Chinese.
- 15:55Some claim he was the model for Colonel
- 15:57Curts, the character played by Marlon
- 15:59Brando in Apocalypse Now.
- 16:02>> Why the old moon wine pota
- 16:05looking eastward to the sea. There's a
- 16:09Burma girl sitting and I know she thinks
- 16:12of me for the wind is in the palm trees
- 16:16and the temple crying all that crap.
- 16:19>> A lot of people who were on their way to
- 16:20Laos wanted to work with Tony. He had
- 16:22that kind of reputation. I was, I
- 16:25suppose, a little bit in awe of him. He
- 16:27was a little bit larger than life.
- 16:31>> George, I'm going to give you a
- 16:32>> I was the new kid on the block and he
- 16:34was a big, strong, aggressive individual
- 16:37and demanded an awful lot of the people
- 16:40working for him.
- 16:40>> Do you remember when I first came to
- 16:42know you?
- 16:42>> Yeah.
- 16:42>> You got off the airplane
- 16:44>> and you picked me up and threw me back
- 16:45on the airplane. Is that what you did to
- 16:48really do that?
- 16:49>> Yes, he did. George Kenning got out of
- 16:51college, wanted action, and made the
- 16:53grade in the CIA. He heard about Tony
- 16:55Poe and became his protege.
- 17:00Colin Thompson was an idealistic Yale
- 17:02man who also signed on for the secret
- 17:04war in Laos.
- 17:06To me, at that age, sounded a lot more
- 17:08interesting than than walking the
- 17:09streets in Berlin or someplace. So I
- 17:12went up country, got in my little
- 17:14airplane with Air America and flew up
- 17:16and circled around in the mountains
- 17:17allows waiting for the clouds to lift so
- 17:19we could pop them down into Long Chang,
- 17:21which at that time was really very
- 17:22primitive.
- 17:24And Tony was living in a tent really. He
- 17:27used parachutes for his ceiling. And
- 17:28that was very sexy. Frankly, we thought
- 17:31that was pretty pretty hot stuff.
- 17:33>> To supply the war, the CIA set up its
- 17:36own secret airfleet, Air America.
- 17:41Masquerading as a civilian airline, Air
- 17:43America was manned by a collection of
- 17:45XGIs and chopper jockeyies.
- 17:51>> For many of Air America's pilots, Laos
- 17:54was the defining experience of their
- 17:56lives.
- 17:5730 years later, they still gather every
- 18:00year to relive their exploits.
- 18:02>> I don't know what they saw, but the
- 18:04flying saucer went like that. I don't
- 18:05think the F84s even saw it.
- 18:07>> A missionary flying for the Christians
- 18:09in action.
- 18:10which is the CIA.
- 18:12>> Yeah. He said they're going to kill you.
- 18:14I said, "Hey, bae.
- 18:17>> Nobody kills Tony Poe."
- 18:19>> Yeah.
- 18:20>> Tony Poe remains their hero. A living
- 18:23legend.
- 18:24>> Hey, if I told you some of the things
- 18:26that I did, you wouldn't. You say you're
- 18:28a liar. You couldn't do it. I was
- 18:31involved in the most beautiful
- 18:35killing operations of
- 18:39No. and but I could do it
- 18:41>> because uh I'm a little bit
- 18:43unconventional.
- 18:45>> So they're always asking Tony, "Well,
- 18:47how do you know you killed so many
- 18:49people?"
- 18:51And Tony would basically say, "Well,
- 18:53that's my word. You don't trust me? You
- 18:55know, send me home." Hey, the guy say,
- 18:58"How many did you kill today?" The body
- 19:00count on the radio at night time. I had
- 19:02a machine gun section.
- 19:06Well, I said, "I've got eight pair of
- 19:08ears on my belt here." I said, "How's
- 19:10that?" He said, "Well, I want to see
- 19:12him." Plain Manila envelope arrives from
- 19:15up country addressed to Charlie to
- 19:17Whitey as he was known, Whitey. And uh
- 19:21from Tony and I just happened to be in
- 19:24his office at the time and he opens up
- 19:26the office, opens up the envelope, and
- 19:28outspill about two dozen years.
- 19:31Yeah.
- 19:33>> OH, NO. 2000 800 400
- 19:39>> I think even looking back if I had it
- 19:41all to do over there again I wouldn't
- 19:42have wanted any other job
- 19:45>> those days I jumped a lot even without a
- 19:46helmet
- 19:47>> that's probably what's wrong with me now
- 19:50>> Bill Lair a native Texan who still lives
- 19:53in Thailand was the CIA's key strategist
- 19:55in Laos it was Lair who trained the M to
- 19:58fight the communist guerrillas he chose
- 20:01Van Pow a local leader to head the CIA's
- 20:04proxy the army which eventually grew to
- 20:06number some 30,000.
- 20:08>> When they approved to arm the first 300
- 20:10men, we asked Wangpa to pick a place
- 20:13that was as far away and difficult to
- 20:14reach as possible to give us time to to
- 20:17drop the the first 300 weapons and to
- 20:19train the people. And I asked him, you
- 20:21know, how long would it take the
- 20:22communist to get up there? Cuz once we
- 20:24start dropping, they're going to know.
- 20:25And he said about 3 days. So we said,
- 20:27"All right, we'll come up with the 3-day
- 20:31training."
- 20:36The communist forces came right on
- 20:38schedule
- 20:39and the moon routed them very easily.
- 20:44>> There were early signs of success in
- 20:45Laos, but in 1965, the US decided to
- 20:49pursue a more conventional military
- 20:51strategy in Southeast Asia.
- 20:55Kennedy's secret warriors were
- 20:57overshadowed by Lynden Johnson's B-52s
- 21:00and American GIS.
- 21:02Bill Lair saw where things were heading
- 21:04and decided to leave Laos in 1968.
- 21:08>> My expertise was in the pure guerilla
- 21:10warfare and that sort of thing. this was
- 21:12going in a different direction and uh
- 21:15somebody else could do it as well as I
- 21:17could
- 21:18and it was probably better for me to
- 21:20leave because I wouldn't have uh felt
- 21:22good doing something I didn't believe
- 21:23in.
- 21:25>> Many of the CIA officers in Laos were
- 21:27dismayed by the US abandonment of their
- 21:29guerilla adventure.
- 21:32They left behind 80,000 dead M allies
- 21:36and the scattered remains of an ancient
- 21:37culture.
- 21:39>> It was very depressing. Had they
- 21:41continued with the paramilitary type
- 21:43program, it certainly would have been at
- 21:45a far less cost in lives and uh
- 21:48everything else. In other words, we we
- 21:50could have lost a lot cheaper.
- 21:54>> Everybody said we lost the goddamn
- 21:57[ __ ]
- 21:57>> Good for you.
- 21:58>> The goddamn politicians lost it.
- 22:00>> The Brotherhood's secret war in Laos was
- 22:03eclipsed by a much more public war. All
- 22:05eyes turned to a neighboring country,
- 22:08Vietnam.
- 22:24William Colby had commanded the CIA's
- 22:26operation in Laos. In 1968, he was
- 22:29reassigned to Saigon, where he set up a
- 22:32covert action to root out communists in
- 22:34the South Vietnamese countryside. It
- 22:36would become one of the most notorious
- 22:38operations in the CIA's history.
- 22:41>> I ran the so-called pacification program
- 22:43there, which was again a business of
- 22:46helping the people to defend themselves
- 22:48with local forces to back them up. I was
- 22:52responsible for handing out 500,000
- 22:55weapons to the people in the villages in
- 22:58Vietnam. Not to the soldiers, not to the
- 23:00police, but to the people.
- 23:03Ralph McGee, a veteran CIA officer, was
- 23:06assigned to Phoenix and soon had grave
- 23:08doubts about the program.
- 23:10>> The Phoenix program was based on the
- 23:12concept that the communist movement in
- 23:15Vietnam consisted of gerillas who were
- 23:18terrorizing people, forcing them to
- 23:20cooperate, when in essence the uh the
- 23:24majority of the villagers were loyal
- 23:27communists who would dedicate their
- 23:28lives to fighting the Americans.
- 23:32So we were fighting a war in Vietnam
- 23:35that had nothing to do with reality.
- 23:41Thousands of innocent people were swept
- 23:43up in an operation that grew more and
- 23:45more out of control.
- 23:51The Phoenix program was a real
- 23:54nightmare. People were being arrested,
- 23:56interrogated, tortured. The Phoenix
- 24:00teams were being sent out to assassinate
- 24:03and capture the leadership of the
- 24:05communist movement. The ace of spades
- 24:08was the calling card for Phoenix teams
- 24:11that killed an estimated 40,000
- 24:13Vietnamese.
- 24:16For McGee, Phoenix took a devastating
- 24:19personal toll.
- 24:20>> Here was my faith in the this wonderful
- 24:23organization I was part of. Here's my
- 24:25faith in my country that I was so proud
- 24:27of. Here is my faith and everything we
- 24:30were doing I was so proud of. It just
- 24:31shattered at at one point. Uh I was
- 24:36sitting in my villa and I was drinking a
- 24:38martina martini and I oh my god I just I
- 24:41just threw my my glass at the wall and
- 24:44it shattered and uh I thought about my
- 24:48gun upstairs that that I should
- 24:50considered uh killing myself.
- 24:54Ralph McGee eventually left the agency
- 24:57and has been an outspoken critic ever
- 24:59since.
- 25:09>> By 1968, the Vietnam War was bitterly
- 25:12dividing America. So too did it tear at
- 25:15the heart and soul of the CIA
- 25:16Brotherhood. Its unquestioned mission
- 25:19was beginning to unravel.
- 25:35In the 1960s and 70s, Latin America was
- 25:39exploding.
- 25:43The CIA's biggest fear that Fidel Castro
- 25:46would export revolution was coming true.
- 25:49We financed operations wherein they
- 25:52placed bombs in churches in different
- 25:55parts of the country and left behind
- 25:56prouba propaganda.
- 25:58This would then stimulate uh enormous
- 26:01demonstrations against communism.
- 26:03>> Philip AG was among the promising young
- 26:06CIA officers helping military
- 26:08governments stem the revolutionary tide.
- 26:10He was stationed in Uruguay where his
- 26:12agents infiltrated communist groups for
- 26:14the local police.
- 26:16I was uh in the police chief's office
- 26:18with my boss at the time, John Horton,
- 26:21and suddenly I hear something strange.
- 26:24It's like a a wailing coming through the
- 26:27walls.
- 26:31It got louder and louder and screaming
- 26:33and then uh moaning and horrible sounds
- 26:36and it was quite clear that somebody was
- 26:39being tortured and we were hearing it. I
- 26:42realized what I was working to support
- 26:46and I didn't want to do that anymore.
- 26:49>> In 1969,
- 26:51Ag did the unthinkable. He quit the CIA
- 26:54and decided to write a diary that
- 26:56exposed secret CIA operations.
- 26:59No one inside the Brotherhood had ever
- 27:01broken his oath of secrecy.
- 27:03>> It was not enough simply to describe
- 27:05what the CIA does. It was important to
- 27:08neutralize and I don't mean kill I mean
- 27:11neutralize the effectiveness of
- 27:12everybody doing it and that's why I was
- 27:15involved after my first came book came
- 27:17out in the exposure of hundreds and
- 27:19hundreds of CIA people around the world
- 27:22he betrayed everybody he knew every
- 27:25person that thought he was a friend or a
- 27:28colleague he betrayed
- 27:30>> John Horton was station chief in Uruguay
- 27:32AG's boss and one of his confidants
- 27:36>> isn't just a matter of his giving away
- 27:38secrets. He was spoiling the lives and
- 27:40careers of people that knew him and
- 27:42trusted him. Think of betrayal. And I
- 27:45think you can understand uh how I feel
- 27:48about Ag.
- 27:54Ag branded a defector and traitor by the
- 27:56brotherhood went into exile in Europe.
- 27:59His book was part of an avalanche of
- 28:02revelations hurled down on the agency as
- 28:05the press began to focus on 30 years of
- 28:07proxy wars and dirty tricks. In
- 28:10September of 1974, as the book went to
- 28:12the printer, the revelations came out
- 28:14about the CIA's intervention in Chile to
- 28:18provoke the overthrow of Salvador Aende.
- 28:23President Richard Nixon had ordered the
- 28:25CIA to destabilize Aende's socialist
- 28:28democracy.
- 28:33The agency orchestrated strikes, food
- 28:35shortages, and finally the coup that
- 28:38killed the Chilean leader.
- 28:49When the story broke in 1974, Congress,
- 28:52fed up with the lies of Vietnam and
- 28:54Watergate, went after the CIA with a
- 28:57vengeance.
- 28:58The attitude in the White House seemed
- 29:00to be, "If in the wake of Vietnam, I can
- 29:03no longer send send in the Marines, then
- 29:06I will send in the CIA."
- 29:08>> Inquy into the
- 29:09>> The Senate investigation headed by
- 29:11Senator Frank Church began to blow the
- 29:13Brotherhood's secret operations wide
- 29:16open. A shocked nation heard about
- 29:19hundreds of covert operations, including
- 29:21one program Richard Helms helped
- 29:23institute back in the 1950s, secret drug
- 29:26experiments.
- 29:27Do you know Reaper? Reaper. Reaper.
- 29:29>> Do you know what day it is today, Cap?
- 29:31>> Yeah.
- 29:32>> What?
- 29:34Tell me.
- 29:35>> What day of the week?
- 29:36>> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's all
- 29:37about me.
- 29:39>> The CIA and the Pentagon had feared that
- 29:41the Soviets were conducting mind control
- 29:43experiments with a new substance called
- 29:45LSD. The US military began its own
- 29:48experiments with the drug, using
- 29:50American soldiers as subjects.
- 29:52>> I can't remember.
- 29:53>> Come on, man. I don't want this. The CIA
- 29:55tested unwitting Americans in an
- 29:57operation called MK Ultra. It hired a
- 30:00federal narcotics agent, George Hunter
- 30:01White, to run it. White then brought a
- 30:04bureau colleague, Ike Feldman, into the
- 30:05operation.
- 30:06>> He says, "We have some mindbending
- 30:08drugs." And he says, "I'd like you to
- 30:11see what they're all about and let me
- 30:13know so I can tell the people in
- 30:15Washington."
- 30:17>> The CIA gave Whit and Feldman immunity
- 30:19to set up brothel to conduct sex and
- 30:21drug experiments. Long before Timothy
- 30:23Liry in the psychedelic 60s, the CIA was
- 30:26running its own acid tests.
- 30:29>> I would go to various bars, massage
- 30:32parlors. I said, "Honey, I want you to
- 30:33do a favor for me." Yeah. I said, "I
- 30:35want you to pick up Joe Blow,
- 30:38take him to the apartment, give him a
- 30:39blowjob." And while he's there, I want
- 30:42you to ask him, "Hey, you know that
- 30:43airplane? How high did it fly?"
- 30:46>> Hundreds of the AY's most tightly held
- 30:48secrets were revealed in a series of
- 30:50congressional probes. The so-called
- 30:52family jewels were described in detail
- 30:54by its new director, William Colby.
- 30:57>> Have you brought with you some of those
- 30:59devices which would have enabled the CIA
- 31:02to use this poison for killing people?
- 31:06We have indeed.
- 31:07>> Colby stunned the country with the most
- 31:10controversial secret of all, the CIA's
- 31:12numerous attempts to assassinate foreign
- 31:14leaders. Don't
- 31:16>> Don't point it at me.
- 31:21One of the main targets of the AY's
- 31:23exotic arsenal was Fidel Castro.
- 31:26>> What they wanted me to do was see if I
- 31:30could recruit somebody to get into Cuba
- 31:35to either kill Castro or dope his drinks
- 31:40or do something to make him look like a
- 31:42damn fool. have any reason to think that
- 31:44it might say how, if at all, this
- 31:46material was used in an aggressive way
- 31:49against someone to kill someone.
- 31:50>> Well, there may well be some of that.
- 31:52>> The hearings showed that under the
- 31:53Kennedy administration, the CIA had
- 31:55hatched two dozen schemes to kill
- 31:57Castro, including one to infect him with
- 31:59bachulism.
- 32:01Another plot involved hiring mafia
- 32:02hitmen to murder the Cuban president.
- 32:07when it was Kennedy, not Castro, who was
- 32:09killed. Some in the agency worried that
- 32:11their Cuban operation may have
- 32:13tragically backfired.
- 32:17CIA officer Sam Halpern, who had worked
- 32:19on the Castro problem, was at lunch with
- 32:21his boss when they got the fateful news
- 32:23from Dallas.
- 32:25>> All we had from the head waiter was the
- 32:26president had been shot. At that point,
- 32:28we didn't even know he had been killed.
- 32:30And I called for the staff car to come
- 32:31get us to bring us back to the agency.
- 32:34And while we were waiting for the staff
- 32:35car, the only thing that I said to Dez
- 32:39was, "I hope it's got nothing to do with
- 32:42Cuba."
- 32:43>> In 1978, Richard Helms was grilled about
- 32:46covering up the Castro plots.
- 32:48>> Or why didn't you tell the Warren
- 32:50Commission about the efforts to get rid
- 32:52of Fidel Castro or to overthrow the
- 32:55Cuban government?
- 32:57>> But Mr. Dodd, you're singling me out as
- 32:59to why I didn't march up until the
- 33:01Warren Commission when these operations
- 33:03against uh Cuba were known to the
- 33:06attorney general of the United States,
- 33:08the secretary of defense, the secretary
- 33:10of state, the assistant to the president
- 33:12for national security affairs, the
- 33:14president of the United States himself,
- 33:15although he at that point was dead. I
- 33:18mean, all kinds of people knew about
- 33:20these operations high up in the
- 33:21government. Now why am I
- 33:23>> Helms was not about to let the CIA take
- 33:25the fall
- 33:26>> identified a
- 33:27>> originally there was a concept abroad
- 33:30that these covert action matters would
- 33:33be handled in a nonattributable way in
- 33:36other words if they blew up they
- 33:38wouldn't blow back on the president or
- 33:41the white house but all through this
- 33:44period of time the president of the
- 33:46United States has been aware of and has
- 33:48been approving all of these covert
- 33:50actions
- 33:52After the Bay of Pigs fiasco, President
- 33:54Kennedy had authorized a new CIA effort
- 33:56to destroy Castro and his economy.
- 33:59Operation Mongoose.
- 34:00>> John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert
- 34:03Kennedy, who was the attorney general,
- 34:05were very insistent on having action
- 34:08right away. They wanted what they called
- 34:10boom and bang.
- 34:11>> There isn't any doubt as to who was
- 34:12running that effort. It was Bobby
- 34:14Kennedy
- 34:17on behalf of his brother. It wasn't
- 34:20anybody else.
- 34:23>> You've heard of the doctrine of
- 34:25plausible deniability.
- 34:26>> Yes. And I've rejected it. Uh now,
- 34:29Senator, I say that uh we cannot depend
- 34:31upon that anymore.
- 34:33>> The question I was going to put to you
- 34:34is
- 34:35>> the investigations were taking a
- 34:36terrible toll on the agency. Americans
- 34:39were outraged by what they were hearing
- 34:41and two of the Brotherhood's leaders
- 34:42were set against each other. It was
- 34:44brother against brother. Helms remained
- 34:47defiant while Colby cooperated.
- 34:49>> They were out of the old tradition, we
- 34:51don't talk at all, just silent,
- 34:54stonewall. And it was my feeling that
- 34:57that wouldn't work. That Congress had
- 35:00the constitutional authority. And it was
- 35:03a matter of trying to convince them that
- 35:05this was a very valuable agency. Colby
- 35:09was also pressured to reveal that his
- 35:10former colleague Richard Helms had lied
- 35:12to Congress about the CIA's involvement
- 35:14in Chile.
- 35:16>> Helms was fined and given a suspended
- 35:18sentence for lying to Congress.
- 35:20>> Told me to do as long as the matter is
- 35:22in the court. I'm saying nothing.
- 35:28>> To the end, Helms held to the
- 35:30Brotherhood's code of silence.
- 35:33He became known as the man who kept the
- 35:36secrets.
- 35:37Certainly I was secure. I didn't talk
- 35:41about operations. I didn't talk about
- 35:43agents. I didn't talk about things which
- 35:45were legitimate secrets of an
- 35:48intelligence organization. And I kept
- 35:51the faith in these matters. There was no
- 35:52doubt about it. And if that's what they
- 35:55meant by secrets, I did keep the
- 35:56secrets.
- 36:00>> Helms and Colby rarely spoke again. And
- 36:02the brotherhood split ranks behind them.
- 36:05The church hearings were a watershed.
- 36:08Permanent congressional committees were
- 36:09set up to oversee the agency. The
- 36:12president's secret warriors were no
- 36:14longer above the law or beyond the reach
- 36:16of public scrutiny. The glory days were
- 36:19over.
- 36:31It took Ronald Reagan's election to
- 36:33resurrect the CIA.
- 36:36When Reagan named his campaign manager,
- 36:38William Casey, to lead the agency, it
- 36:40ushered in a new era of CIA activism.
- 36:43Like many of the old boys, Casey came
- 36:45out of Wall Street and had been an
- 36:46officer in the OSS.
- 36:49Like his boss, he was an avid cold
- 36:51warrior, a welcome lifesaver to a
- 36:54drowning brotherhood.
- 36:55>> Casey liked operations officers.
- 36:58He assumed they were actionoriented.
- 37:02>> He loved this
- 37:04maybe
- 37:06not wisely, but certainly more um than
- 37:11his most of his outside predecessors and
- 37:14successors did.
- 37:20Together, Reagan and Casey revived
- 37:22America's war against communism. They
- 37:24launched their first attack in Central
- 37:26America.
- 37:29>> If we do nothing, if we continue to
- 37:32provide too little help, our choice will
- 37:34be a communist Central America with
- 37:37additional communist military bases on
- 37:39the mainland of this hemisphere and
- 37:41communist subversion spreading southward
- 37:43and northward.
- 37:44>> The president backed his words with
- 37:45money and manpower. Hundreds of CIA
- 37:48officers were hired. The company was
- 37:50back in business. went up and saw Casey
- 37:52and Casey, you know, said hello and and
- 37:55we talked and he said and we talked
- 37:57about the Central American thing was it
- 37:59was the issue of the day and he said
- 38:02look he said take uh as he of he did he
- 38:04said you know take off a couple of
- 38:06months or take a couple of months and
- 38:08study this problem and then come back to
- 38:10me uh with a recommendation on on what
- 38:14we ought to do in Central America.
- 38:18The number one target was Nicaragua. In
- 38:211979, the Sandinista Revolution, backed
- 38:24by Castro and the Soviets, had toppled
- 38:26dictator Anastasio Samoza and brought a
- 38:29socialist government to Central America.
- 38:32Reagan convinced Congress to fund a very
- 38:34limited CIA operation to prevent the
- 38:36Sandinista Revolution from spreading.
- 38:39Then he turned to his secret warriors.
- 38:43Believe me, it didn't take rocket
- 38:45science and it didn't take two months
- 38:48to figure out what ought to be done down
- 38:50there. Okay? We should take the war to
- 38:53Nicaragua and we should start killing
- 38:56Cubans
- 38:58because if you start making life
- 38:59difficult for the Cubans in Nicaragua,
- 39:01maybe they'll go home.
- 39:03Well, of course, this was exactly what
- 39:05Casey wanted to hear.
- 39:09In 1981, only a small band of
- 39:11anti-sendinista gerillas existed. Then
- 39:14Dewey Clarage came in with weapons and
- 39:16money to create the force known as the
- 39:18Contras.
- 39:20>> You got to understand for Reagan, the
- 39:23Contras were his boys. I mean, his boys.
- 39:27There's no way he was ever going to let
- 39:30them down. As long as there is breath in
- 39:32this body, I will speak and work, strive
- 39:35and struggle for the cause of the
- 39:37Nicaraguan freedom fighters. People got
- 39:40to understand this. People say, you
- 39:42know, that Reagan was asleep at
- 39:43meetings, so on and so forth. Ice was in
- 39:45a lot of NSPG meetings, okay? And I
- 39:49never saw that man asleep. Now, maybe he
- 39:52was interested in the subject.
- 39:57remember one time after an NSPG meeting
- 40:00he said, "You think you can get your
- 40:02vandals to attack that airport down
- 40:06there when they bring the MiGs in?" And
- 40:07I said, "Mr. President, I don't think my
- 40:10vandals who are your vandals have quite
- 40:13got the wherewithal to get down into the
- 40:16planes and attack that airport."
- 40:19With Reagan's unwavering support, the
- 40:22CIA operation grew beyond the mission
- 40:24Congress had originally approved.
- 40:28The Contras came out of the mountains to
- 40:30attack small towns and ports.
- 40:33I'd gone in and shot up the Port of
- 40:34Corinto to take out the crane, lit the
- 40:37whole town on fire by hitting all the
- 40:39oil tanks, but nothing was really
- 40:41happening in in a real sense.
- 40:44>> Casey wanted Clarage to pull off
- 40:45something big to destabilize the
- 40:47Sandinistas. So I was sitting there and
- 40:49I was drinking some martinis. It was
- 40:51late in night.
- 40:53I was I know I was drinking mart gin on
- 40:55the rocks and smoking a cigar of course.
- 41:00And you know it suddenly came to me that
- 41:02mines was the way to go.
- 41:06Mining Nicaragua's harbors may have
- 41:08seemed like a good idea to Clarage and
- 41:10Casey, but when news reports uncovered
- 41:12the CIA's role, Americans began to
- 41:14question funding a war against
- 41:16civilians. To the public, Reagan's
- 41:18freedom fighters were looking more like
- 41:20terrorists. In 1984, Congress outlawed
- 41:23all aid to the Contras, and Dewey
- 41:26Clarage was reassigned.
- 41:28But Casey had other ideas.
- 41:32The director was
- 41:34interested in the ability to go to an
- 41:38existing, as he put it, offtheshelf,
- 41:41self- sustaining, standalone
- 41:43entity that could perform certain
- 41:46activities on behalf of the United
- 41:48States.
- 41:50Casey recruited White House aid Oliver
- 41:52North to head up a secret enterprise
- 41:54outside the agency to sell arms to Iran
- 41:57and send the cash to the Contras. Both
- 41:59were illegal.
- 42:01Casey had put the CIA in the middle of
- 42:03another major scandal.
- 42:06Dwey Clarage was one of several CIA
- 42:09officers subsequently indicted for lying
- 42:11to Congress to protect Reagan and Casey.
- 42:14>> We were all pawns, many of us, in this
- 42:17fight between the executive and the
- 42:19Congress in the course of all of this.
- 42:23The president of the United States and
- 42:24many others knew exactly what was going
- 42:27on.
- 42:30In his 5 years on the job, Casey had
- 42:32revived the agency, but his Latin
- 42:35American operations left his reputation
- 42:37as tarnished as when he started.
- 42:40In many respects, he was the best
- 42:43director that we had during my 30 years
- 42:46with CIA
- 42:48and sadly will be
- 42:52in some ways the worst. He was
- 42:56probably the the leader of the agency
- 42:59that most loved it or most loved my side
- 43:01of it. Um, but all that said, I'd have
- 43:05to say he was a net loss.
- 43:10A brain tumor killed William Casey
- 43:12before he was called to account for the
- 43:13worst CIA crisis in a decade and before
- 43:16he could stake his claim to what may
- 43:17have been the CIA's greatest victory,
- 43:20the defeat of the Soviet army in
- 43:22Afghanistan.
- 43:32When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in
- 43:351979, the Cold War heated up. William
- 43:39Casey assigned two veteran CIA officers,
- 43:42Milt Bearden and Frank Anderson, to
- 43:44supply and train the outmatched Afghan
- 43:46guerillas known as the Mujahedin.
- 43:50I like everybody else believed that rag
- 43:53tag bunches of third world uh insurgents
- 43:57don't defeat the Red Army.
- 43:59>> The initial idea was only to bleed the
- 44:01bear to make the Soviet war in
- 44:03Afghanistan as costly as possible.
- 44:06But William Casey wanted more.
- 44:09I was in Pakistan. I saw Casey one time
- 44:14and Casey said, "Why don't you go win it
- 44:17as opposed to let's let's go and fight
- 44:22to the last Afghan or let's let let's
- 44:25just bleed the Soviets." No, he said go
- 44:27win it.
- 44:31Beardarden and Anderson put together an
- 44:32exotic coalition of Polish, Egyptian,
- 44:34and Chinese arms dealers to equip the
- 44:37fiercely independent Afghan guerillas.
- 44:41I told them, "Look guys, don't do car
- 44:44bombs. Don't do truck bombs. There's no
- 44:47percentages in it. Let's don't do that."
- 44:50So, they would load a camel up with uh
- 44:53150 lbs of simax,
- 44:56uh, plastic explosives, and tie it up
- 44:58against, uh, a building in in this town
- 45:01in eastern Afghanistan, which is kind of
- 45:03like the USO and, uh, can officers
- 45:06canteen of the Soviet army. And uh when
- 45:10they're all in there sitting around
- 45:12drinking their vodkas and watching
- 45:13whatever they're watching, rip that baby
- 45:15off and blow up 150 lbs of Simex and a
- 45:18camel and the Soviet officers club. And
- 45:21they were very proud to get back to me
- 45:23and said, "See, Mr. Milt, we did a camel
- 45:26bomb. We didn't do a truck bomb."
- 45:29What eventually brought down the Soviets
- 45:31was the US-made Stinger missile.
- 45:35Inside the agency, they debated the
- 45:37future dangers of giving Islamic
- 45:39fundamentalists such a lethal weapon.
- 45:41But Casey's priority was beating the
- 45:43communists, and he prevailed.
- 45:46>> A flight of Soviet attack helicopters
- 45:48was moving from Kabell down to this
- 45:51airfield. They stood up, ripped off the
- 45:54first stinger of the Great Afghan War,
- 45:56and it just flew like a great white dart
- 45:59across this blue sky and popped that
- 46:03first helicopter. Second gunner loaded
- 46:05up and they stood there kind of like a a
- 46:08buffalo stand for about another full
- 46:11minute and knocked out uh three of these
- 46:13guys. Pow pow pow.
- 46:18The helicopter killing stinger turned
- 46:20the tide in the CIA's last battle of the
- 46:22Cold War.
- 46:31After suffering more than 13,000 combat
- 46:33deaths and a decade of severe economic
- 46:36strain, the Soviets abandoned the war
- 46:38against the Mujahadin.
- 46:41Bearden remembers the day when the last
- 46:42Soviet troops crossed the bridge to
- 46:44leave Afghanistan.
- 46:47That night I went home to Pakistan. You
- 46:50could see my office from the office of
- 46:53the KGB resident in Pakistan and he had
- 46:56asked me on the circuit a number of
- 46:58times. He said, "Mr. burden. You must be
- 47:00working very hard all the time because
- 47:02I'm always seeing the light on in your
- 47:03office.
- 47:05And so I kept it on for 3 years just to
- 47:08kind of jerk this big potato headed KGB
- 47:11general around and then on the night of
- 47:1415th February 1989 turn the light off.
- 47:19The CIA's secret warriors had long
- 47:22dreamt of helping to defeat the Red
- 47:24Army.
- 47:26When Milt Bearden sent the news back to
- 47:28Langley, they broke out the champagne.
- 47:34>> We're poor little lambs who have lost
- 47:38our way.
- 47:44>> When the cold war suddenly ended, the
- 47:46CIA lost its enemy in the great game.
- 47:50After we settled into the Cold War, then
- 47:53it did become one big contest between
- 47:57the shirts and the skins. And we were
- 47:59the shirts and they were the skins. And
- 48:01your job was to to show up for every
- 48:04match wherever it was. That's the goal.
- 48:06eternity.
- 48:09God have mercy on such as we.
- 48:15>> And then what happened really was that
- 48:18one day they didn't show up anymore.
- 48:26>> The fall of the Iron Curtain had taken
- 48:28everyone by surprise, even the CIA.
- 48:31After 40 years on the front lines of the
- 48:33Cold War, America's secret warriors
- 48:36found out like everybody else from
- 48:38television.
- 48:40>> I'm sitting in my nice corner office in
- 48:43command of the Soviet East European
- 48:45Division and clicked on remote control
- 48:50and there it was. That piece of the wall
- 48:53had been knocked over and people were
- 48:56coming through.
- 48:58For me, it was uh
- 49:02a moment to rejoice beyond, oh, you
- 49:04know, and I thought, can you believe
- 49:06that that's done?
- 49:10For over four decades, the secret
- 49:12warriors did the dirty work for an
- 49:14American foreign policy based on the
- 49:16belief that the Soviets would never
- 49:17reform or change.
- 49:19At their moment of triumph, the CIA
- 49:22faced a cascade of criticism. They had
- 49:24failed to foresee the enemy's historic
- 49:26fall.
- 49:33The appraisal of the relative strength
- 49:36or weakness of the Soviet Union has
- 49:38always been a political appraisal. It
- 49:40has never been an intelligence
- 49:42assessment ever, ever, ever. It's only
- 49:44political.
- 49:46The Cold War was a political struggle
- 49:48between two nuclear superpowers.
- 49:51The president made the key decisions and
- 49:53his secret warriors decided how to carry
- 49:55out the orders.
- 49:58They saw their greatest challenge as
- 50:00subverting and containing communism
- 50:02without letting the Cold War escalate
- 50:04into a hot war.
- 50:07We did get through this terrible period
- 50:10in which we threatened each other with
- 50:1225,000 nuclear warheads on each side and
- 50:16we didn't destroy the world. That's the
- 50:19greatest success and intelligence played
- 50:21a major role in that. Along the way, the
- 50:24CIA's secret warriors left their
- 50:26footprints on virtually every continent.
- 50:28They conducted major operations in at
- 50:30least 20 countries, as well as hundreds
- 50:32of smaller covert actions.
- 50:35Nations were devastated and hundreds of
- 50:37thousands of people were tortured or
- 50:39killed in the proxy battles of the Cold
- 50:41War.
- 50:43At 50, the Brotherhood's days as a small
- 50:46elite band of crusaders against
- 50:48communism are over. Weary from scandal
- 50:51and the contempt of the public, the
- 50:53agency has settled into a vast
- 50:54bureaucracy. Its mission unclear and its
- 50:57future uncertain.
- 51:15Yeah.
- 51:21Heat.
- 51:37Heat.
- 52:02Heat.
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