Christopher Wylie Wanted To Help Facebook — They Banned Him Instead (HBO) — Transcript

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1. 0:00[Music]
2. 0:01Facebook and Alex Stamos its chief
3. 0:04information security officer our parting
4. 0:07ways the departure comes on the same day
5. 0:10that Facebook said that it's
6. 0:12investigating whether it allowed a data
7. 0:14company called Cambridge analytical to
8. 0:16access and allegedly keep data profiles
9. 0:19of 50 million users former Trump adviser
10. 0:22Steve Bannon sat on Cambridge analytic
11. 0:25ha's board and the Trump campaign ended
12. 0:27up paying the company nearly six million
13. 0:30dollars but before CA could land that
14. 0:34contract it had to show that its voter
15. 0:36profiling model worked on a mass scale
16. 0:38and to do that it needed an epic bundle
17. 0:41of data vice news spoke to the
18. 0:44whistleblower who made it all happen my
19. 0:47name is Christopher Wylie I'm a data
20. 0:49scientist and I helped set up cameras
21. 0:51analytic I when's the abandon wanted to
22. 0:53build an arsenal of weapons for his
23. 0:56culture war he liked the idea of working
24. 0:58with a company that has lots of military
25. 1:00clients fundamentally white Cambridge
26. 1:02analytical wise was the transposition of
27. 1:06military style information operations
28. 1:09and propaganda to a an American
29. 1:12political consultancy so that it can
30. 1:14create a web of disinformation on
31. 1:16Facebook and other platforms some people
32. 1:18would say watching this is basic data
33. 1:22analysis Obama did it Hillary Clinton's
34. 1:25the different saying this is the
35. 1:26difference
36. 1:27first of all Obama didn't win because of
37. 1:30of disinformation the fundamental
38. 1:32difference between standard political
39. 1:35targeting and information operations is
40. 1:38this idea of informational dominance I
41. 1:40inject my messaging in all the streams
42. 1:43of information around my target so that
43. 1:45they start to think they start to
44. 1:47perceive things that aren't necessarily
45. 1:48true but in their mind it is and they go
46. 1:51and behave in a particular way that I've
47. 1:53led them to so that I can exploit that
48. 1:55vulnerability the premise of of
49. 1:57Cambridge analytic app is to warp
50. 1:59people's perceptions to gain an
51. 2:01objective in a statement today
52. 2:03Cambridge analytic has said it's deleted
53. 2:06all the data and that it didn't use the
54. 2:08data or personality targeting and it's
55. 2:10work for Trump where is all that dates
56. 2:13now I don't know you have to ask camera
57. 2:14channel Innoko but did Facebook contact
58. 2:16you and asked you to delete it yeah
59. 2:18Facebook asked me to sign a forum which
60. 2:20I did I filled it I just like put in
61. 2:22your name and check a box and then sign
62. 2:23it saying what that I promise to delete
63. 2:27or destroy the all the data that was in
64. 2:292016
65. 2:30and did you delete all the data yeah in
66. 2:32its own statements Facebook said it's
67. 2:34conducting an audit to determine what
68. 2:36happened with the data what is Facebook
69. 2:39referring to when it says that several
70. 2:41days ago we received reports that
71. 2:42contrary to the certifications we were
72. 2:44given not all data was deleted you know
73. 2:46what that's about
74. 2:47ask do you general that occur what this
75. 2:49is the thing that's really frustrating
76. 2:50me right now is everybody's asking me
77. 2:52this I'm the one putting it out and
78. 2:54saying hey guys let's investigate this
79. 2:56matter and for some reason I'm the one
80. 2:58that's being questioned if your other
81. 2:59than Cambridge I don't think that you'll
82. 3:01have insights oh you'll be able to do
83. 3:03that I've offered and I've offered and
84. 3:05offered and offered to help Facebook
85. 3:07they turn around and without telling me
86. 3:09banned me from their system after they
87. 3:11realized that I was going public about
88. 3:13this matter why do you think they've
89. 3:15taken such a strong response I don't
90. 3:17know
91. 3:18I think they claim that is for the
92. 3:19security of their users but like banning
93. 3:21me on Instagram so that I can't see like
94. 3:23well-curated avocado toast isn't really
95. 3:25going to help the security of the
96. 3:26platform I'm sorry Facebook it's silly
97. 3:28I'm here willing to talk it but but but
98. 3:32but punishing me for being a
99. 3:35whistleblower is not appropriate
100. 3:45you