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Christopher Juul (HEILUNG) — The future sound of the past — Interview on March 7, 2025 — Transcript

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  1. 0:00You are being intentionally put through
  2. 0:03a dream state where we try to remove you
  3. 0:07from this reality. Put you into a
  4. 0:09mindset of the past using the future.
  5. 0:15>> I have more outputs on my station than a
  6. 0:18full band will have in a normal band.
  7. 0:22>> I don't want this show to be about the
  8. 0:25people producing the music. I want it to
  9. 0:28be for the people that are there and
  10. 0:30experiencing it.
  11. 0:33>> Hello. Today we are talking to
  12. 0:35Christopher Ule from Hilong.
  13. 0:37>> And um I wanted this interview to be
  14. 0:39more about um yourself. What is your
  15. 0:42biography, how you came to be like
  16. 0:46>> uh the artist you are and also about the
  17. 0:49scient sound of Hilong. So can you can
  18. 0:52we just start from how you became a
  19. 0:54musician?
  20. 0:55So I learned playing an instrument
  21. 0:58before I could speak. So at a very young
  22. 1:01age. I'm I'm born into a musician family
  23. 1:05and a creative family. Um
  24. 1:09and I learned playing very early on. I
  25. 1:11started playing classical music the most
  26. 1:13as a child and also studied that.
  27. 1:18Um most of what I do is self-taught. Um
  28. 1:23I have also taught um music to others in
  29. 1:28various degrees. Um,
  30. 1:31I founded Lava Studios in Copenhagen for
  31. 1:35a
  32. 1:37for a reason. Like very early on we
  33. 1:42Denmark at the time was I think very
  34. 1:45very in a in in in in their music it was
  35. 1:49in a bad state I would say. Right. I'm
  36. 1:51not complaining about what the other
  37. 1:53people do, but in terms of of um being
  38. 1:56connected with your roots and and and
  39. 1:59being connected to world music in
  40. 2:01general, of folk music, um
  41. 2:05at the time it was easier to just look
  42. 2:06to Norway or Sweden because they were
  43. 2:08way more
  44. 2:10connected with their with their heritage
  45. 2:13in terms of their music. Uh so I thought
  46. 2:15that was sad. So, so I I spent a lot of
  47. 2:18time
  48. 2:20uh playing and producing music within
  49. 2:23this realm uh some years back.
  50. 2:27Um
  51. 2:29yeah, and a couple of hundred albums
  52. 2:31later I'm still doing that. But the the
  53. 2:35last the last five six years has been
  54. 2:38mainly focused on my own projects.
  55. 2:42However, we are
  56. 2:44growing also in my production facility
  57. 2:47and we are starting to take more clients
  58. 2:51in and it's very exciting. Yeah.
  59. 2:54>> I know that your father is actually a a
  60. 2:56pagan priest or something.
  61. 2:59You didn't want to be like as spiritual
  62. 3:01as he is or
  63. 3:03>> No, I think my dad and I are quite
  64. 3:06similar actually in terms of our
  65. 3:08worldview and and our look at north
  66. 3:13mythology and stuff like that. Um it's
  67. 3:17true I am not
  68. 3:20I'm not necessarily
  69. 3:22I would not identify myself as a
  70. 3:25shamanic person at all but uh but I'm
  71. 3:28not um
  72. 3:30I follow I follow a very old codeex and
  73. 3:33a lot of the things and the teachings
  74. 3:35from for instance Haramile and other
  75. 3:37things I think is very adaptable to to
  76. 3:40how you live today and how you rule a
  77. 3:43pack and how you treat a person coming
  78. 3:45to your doorstep and you know how also
  79. 3:49maybe to ask a person to leave or
  80. 3:51whatever right be kind also that that is
  81. 3:54a thing um and a lot of that there's a
  82. 3:58lot of symbolism for that that I have
  83. 3:59been taught since early childhood and
  84. 4:03and and still carry with me like my
  85. 4:05father and I we we have been sailing a
  86. 4:08lot in my life we we were sailors and um
  87. 4:11I got to see the world quite early on um
  88. 4:16um but I think it was always with a very
  89. 4:19strong root on on where I come from. Uh
  90. 4:23and uh yeah, I'm proud of that.
  91. 4:25>> I would say that on stage you are on the
  92. 4:28left side. It's rarely you come in
  93. 4:30front. But I'd like to stress that your
  94. 4:33sound is something that is basically all
  95. 4:36the hilong is built on because without
  96. 4:39that sound there will be no
  97. 4:42uh nothing like no impression. Um
  98. 4:47the show the ritual is very important
  99. 4:50but it's built on the songs. Mhm.
  100. 4:53>> Um so and basically what Halong does is
  101. 4:58to
  102. 5:00produces music uh based on ancient uh
  103. 5:05scriptures and like inscriptions and so
  104. 5:08on and probably some ancient sources
  105. 5:11about music. what it takes to take those
  106. 5:15sources and make them
  107. 5:19uh sound
  108. 5:21so immersive to current audience. What
  109. 5:23what job you have to do like when you
  110. 5:26have just your sources?
  111. 5:29>> U you're absolutely right. Um that um I
  112. 5:33don't put myself in in very much focus.
  113. 5:36Let's start there. Uh I do this for a
  114. 5:39reason. um like like I'm like on on the
  115. 5:43side of the stage in darkness painted
  116. 5:45black and and in a black clothes, you
  117. 5:47know, so I'm kind of, you know,
  118. 5:50um invisible, I guess, as much as
  119. 5:52possible. I don't do this because I
  120. 5:54don't want to interact with audience
  121. 5:55that I also do interact when I can, but
  122. 5:58but I don't want um I don't want the
  123. 6:01show to be about the people, right? It
  124. 6:06might sound weird because folk music is
  125. 6:08music for the people, but I don't want
  126. 6:10it to be about the people producing the
  127. 6:13music for the people. I want it to be
  128. 6:16for the people that are there and
  129. 6:18experiencing it. And um and it's a
  130. 6:21collection of things. So yeah, I I do I
  131. 6:25do make all the music in Hilong, right?
  132. 6:27That is my my part of the thing to
  133. 6:31compose the music. And it's also me that
  134. 6:35produces this albums and mix and master
  135. 6:38and everything. And I also band lead
  136. 6:40Hilong. So, so I'm also like on on in
  137. 6:45terms of like getting Hilong on the road
  138. 6:48and lead the people here. That is my
  139. 6:50job. And and that takes a lot of time
  140. 6:53and energy of course. And it's it's a
  141. 6:55it's a big machine that of course cannot
  142. 6:57do on my own. and I have have several
  143. 7:00very good people helping. Um, Hilong is
  144. 7:04not like built on the songs and then we
  145. 7:08add another thing on top of it and stuff
  146. 7:10like that. Hilong is a collection of
  147. 7:13many different elements, right? So in
  148. 7:15the core for instance, we have three
  149. 7:18people creating Hilum, right? And that
  150. 7:20that usually comes from from source
  151. 7:23material from Kai. And then I I create a
  152. 7:27an art piece around that
  153. 7:30audiovisisually.
  154. 7:31And I also help with
  155. 7:35when we do artwork. For instance, Kai
  156. 7:37comes with drawings and then I lay out
  157. 7:39them and I put them into a visual
  158. 7:43context. Um, and that those things those
  159. 7:47when we make our releases in in the in
  160. 7:51the in a studio setting, right? Of
  161. 7:53course, Maria comes with her wonderful
  162. 7:55melodies also. But when we take these
  163. 7:57things from the studio and we put them
  164. 7:59into a live context, then you know it
  165. 8:03automatically goes into different
  166. 8:05departments that we have created
  167. 8:07ourselves. So in a way we call Hilong
  168. 8:10live like a theater for gods. And what
  169. 8:12we mean about it is we have
  170. 8:15the construction of a of a live
  171. 8:17performance is like a theater production
  172. 8:20right but it's not for you know as in a
  173. 8:24normal theater what we do is not acting
  174. 8:26we we we are us on stage in a version of
  175. 8:30ourselves that that follow uh what is
  176. 8:34inside of us but it needs structure when
  177. 8:36you have so many people so for instance
  178. 8:38Kai's drawings goes into the visual
  179. 8:40department and We make go with the
  180. 8:43light. We uh we we design everything in
  181. 8:46a previous room before we even go live.
  182. 8:49So we have like good people working at
  183. 8:52so we can visualize how we want it to
  184. 8:54look and how we want it to feel because
  185. 8:57like in our releases and our books, you
  186. 9:00know, our artwork and our visual side
  187. 9:03goes hand inhand with our audio side. So
  188. 9:06so they follow each other. uh and that
  189. 9:08has to be a red thread from when we do
  190. 9:13uh our releases until it hits your ear
  191. 9:16and eyes at a live performance. So that
  192. 9:18has to feel and be the same and it is
  193. 9:20the same. It's the same file even at
  194. 9:22times. Then there is of course the music
  195. 9:26side of things. So Hilong in the studio
  196. 9:29has no rules in terms on how we make
  197. 9:32music. Some things is performable, some
  198. 9:36things would be impossible to perform.
  199. 9:39Um, and that's okay. Uh, we have made
  200. 9:43several albums. So, so some stuff will
  201. 9:45work, some stuff won't. But for our um
  202. 9:50for our our music and our our sounds
  203. 9:57we we we still bring those modified
  204. 10:00nature sounds and then we sing to that
  205. 10:02live right and that creates a new
  206. 10:05universe. So, so for instance, what
  207. 10:08Hilong is for three people in a studio
  208. 10:10setting, we do on later albums, of
  209. 10:13course, invite some of our people in,
  210. 10:15but it's grander when we perform it
  211. 10:17live, right? Because we can have more
  212. 10:19colors, more input from different
  213. 10:21people, but they are following the
  214. 10:24compositions we are making, right? But
  215. 10:26making it their own. And I believe that
  216. 10:29is the energy that is important, not
  217. 10:30that someone wrote that music that
  218. 10:34they're playing. That is of course nice
  219. 10:36and that is needed in a in an orchestral
  220. 10:38context, right? But it's the
  221. 10:40collectivity of the whole piece and the
  222. 10:44all the energy that is done for for the
  223. 10:47whole thing that is important. And and
  224. 10:50if you look at a stage performance
  225. 10:51specifically like here we are 30 50
  226. 10:54people on the road, right? and the guy
  227. 10:57that hangs in the morning up in the rick
  228. 11:00putting up our new brand new speakers
  229. 11:02and stuff like that. It's much a part to
  230. 11:05do that. It's a wonderful evening as the
  231. 11:07composer of the music, right? It's a
  232. 11:09collective thing and we have handpicked
  233. 11:12every single one that is here and
  234. 11:15everything that is here is handpicked by
  235. 11:17us including the the the stage, the
  236. 11:20speakers, the light, everything is
  237. 11:22something we bring so we can ensure that
  238. 11:26the output we intend to give you in the
  239. 11:29audience and the pictures you can then
  240. 11:31build in yourself seeing this
  241. 11:33performance is you know there's there's
  242. 11:36an idea behind everything. Maybe I just
  243. 11:38ask like what is
  244. 11:41on your console when you play live on uh
  245. 11:45stage?
  246. 11:46>> What I play with?
  247. 11:47>> Yeah. Is it some
  248. 11:48>> Oh, that's a lot of things. Uh
  249. 11:52um
  250. 11:54there's a lot of machines and and and
  251. 11:56loopers and stuff like that, but they
  252. 11:58they're meant they're meant to to you
  253. 12:02know, we're not here to cheat. We what
  254. 12:03we're doing is we are
  255. 12:07we are amplifying real sounds basically
  256. 12:09right of course we can't bring a
  257. 12:12waterfall with us on stage which is a
  258. 12:14sound we maybe use for a background
  259. 12:16thing that we can morph into tones and
  260. 12:18stuff like that uh so some things has to
  261. 12:21become in the beginning I was actually
  262. 12:24doing a lot more of what we do on the
  263. 12:27album in terms of you know performing it
  264. 12:30right and the only way at the time and
  265. 12:33probably also now is to use a laptop,
  266. 12:36right? But I I thought it was a bit
  267. 12:39distracting to have that big screen
  268. 12:41there. Uh and I mean not I mean I didn't
  269. 12:46don't think it's important for the live
  270. 12:48feeling that a specific filter is
  271. 12:50applied to a a nature sound. I mean that
  272. 12:54that filter can also just be applied as
  273. 12:56it is, right? It doesn't change the life
  274. 12:58energy. And actually by having the
  275. 13:01laptop removed and put into a more like
  276. 13:05more simple sound player, you know, it
  277. 13:08freed more time to to to do more real
  278. 13:13stuff, singing and playing and looping
  279. 13:16and and and all those things, right? Um,
  280. 13:20so yeah, our setup is also quite crazy
  281. 13:24because it's actually built to maintain
  282. 13:27an immersive show also. So I have like I
  283. 13:30have more outputs on my station than an
  284. 13:33a full band would have in a normal band,
  285. 13:35right? uh and that is because we are
  286. 13:38very much both in my studio and also
  287. 13:41live when one possible working in
  288. 13:44immersive music and immersive audio and
  289. 13:48uh and and that means sound all the way
  290. 13:50around you right so that's another realm
  291. 13:52where we can grasp the hand of of the
  292. 13:55audience
  293. 13:56>> so I recall that you made like one
  294. 13:58concert with immersive sound so far
  295. 14:00right
  296. 14:00>> we did we did one
  297. 14:04um
  298. 14:05at Rosskiller Festival which was a in in
  299. 14:09collaboration with Maya sound and uh
  300. 14:12also with Midas. We used their heritage
  301. 14:17system. Um
  302. 14:19and and yeah and the rescuer of course
  303. 14:21and that was that was difficult right
  304. 14:23because sound travel with the speed of
  305. 14:26sound and
  306. 14:28that can be difficult right because that
  307. 14:30can be mean when you play for 20,000
  308. 14:33people or whatever you know the the
  309. 14:34sound is delayed with up to two or three
  310. 14:37seconds you know so that means you can't
  311. 14:39just put a drummer in there because his
  312. 14:43beat would actually be seconds late
  313. 14:45which is a lot in music right so it was
  314. 14:47also about figuring out what is an like
  315. 14:50inventing the wheel again, right? Like
  316. 14:52back in in the day when when when
  317. 14:56Beatles went to stereo for instance,
  318. 14:58right? I like to use this anecdote. I
  319. 14:59also do that often when when I talk
  320. 15:01about immersive and that is, you know,
  321. 15:03at the time, you know, you went from
  322. 15:05mono to stereo. So, yeah. Well, let's
  323. 15:07just put the guitar and the drums in one
  324. 15:09and the singer and the bass in the other
  325. 15:11speaker, right? And if you lose a cable,
  326. 15:14you know, then you only hear half of the
  327. 15:16band, right?
  328. 15:17>> But that I guess that was an attempt at
  329. 15:19the time to do a sort of immersive
  330. 15:21experience, right? And then Quadron came
  331. 15:23around with the Pink Floyd live and all
  332. 15:25these things. Um,
  333. 15:28but what we're trying here is is very
  334. 15:31different from when you're sitting at
  335. 15:32home with your home surround sound or in
  336. 15:35your headphones where I believe
  337. 15:37immersive will be uh the most used in
  338. 15:40the future. Um because sound travel with
  339. 15:44the speed of sound. That is very
  340. 15:46important because the further away you
  341. 15:48are from the sound carry it doesn't
  342. 15:49matter how big the speaker is. Further
  343. 15:52away you are from the speaker you know
  344. 15:54the longer time it's going to take for
  345. 15:56the sound to hit you. Right? So that's
  346. 15:58okay for one person. If you're one
  347. 16:00person standing in an arena, sure the
  348. 16:02sound can hit you from different areas
  349. 16:04and we can time it. Right? But if you're
  350. 16:0620,000 people standing in 20,000
  351. 16:08different places, you will have 20,000
  352. 16:10different ways of hearing where the
  353. 16:12sound is coming from. And the further
  354. 16:14away you get from one particular
  355. 16:16speaker, let's say there's 12 around you
  356. 16:18or whatever, then of course, you know,
  357. 16:22it will be very difficult. So, so that
  358. 16:24very naturally put a limit on how you
  359. 16:28can actually do immersive sound live.
  360. 16:30And and what we discovered was that
  361. 16:32unless you like make little boxes of
  362. 16:35sound in the audience and you go with
  363. 16:37the whole thing, you cannot like put the
  364. 16:40guitarist or whatever. We don't have
  365. 16:41that in Hilong, but if we had one or
  366. 16:43whatever flute player behind you in,
  367. 16:46let's say, in the speaker behind all the
  368. 16:48audience, that wouldn't fit rhythmically
  369. 16:50with the rest of the band. But also, you
  370. 16:52don't really want to look at a at a
  371. 16:54flute player up there and hear him here,
  372. 16:56right? So, so what we figure out is that
  373. 17:00the sound still comes from a from where
  374. 17:03you see it, right? Um,
  375. 17:06and then what we can do then is that we
  376. 17:09can change the room. We can make the
  377. 17:11room be a different room with this
  378. 17:15sound. We can we can have reflections
  379. 17:17happening out in the speakers because
  380. 17:19that is natural. We are used to being in
  381. 17:21a big space and then of course we hear
  382. 17:24reflections delayed. that there is
  383. 17:26usually we can also of course put nature
  384. 17:29sounds around us and that is where where
  385. 17:31Hilong really fits well in right because
  386. 17:33what we try to do is actually create a
  387. 17:36sound bubble and a room for you where
  388. 17:38you can come in and you can be changed
  389. 17:40right and sound is part of that. So, so
  390. 17:43in that way, immersive sound is very
  391. 17:46tempting for us, but of course in a
  392. 17:49release format when we make albums and
  393. 17:51stuff like that. I can tell I have a
  394. 17:53quite impressive u immersive sound setup
  395. 17:57now in my studio and it's something
  396. 17:59we're investing a lot into to to make
  397. 18:01because we can see that generally the
  398. 18:04world is moving that way. But it is a
  399. 18:05different form when you have it in an
  400. 18:08album because you can have the sound
  401. 18:10close and we can we can put way more
  402. 18:13things around you than we can do in a
  403. 18:15live setting because the sound is here
  404. 18:17or maybe in your living room but that is
  405. 18:19that is not too big to to that you will
  406. 18:22hear any significant delay from the
  407. 18:26music.
  408. 18:28>> I wonder are there any other bands that
  409. 18:31try to do immersive sound or you are the
  410. 18:33first?
  411. 18:34>> Yeah. So we definitely the first to try
  412. 18:36it at this scale in this way at least at
  413. 18:39that festival. Uh to my knowledge that
  414. 18:41was the first time there is immersive
  415. 18:44sound already out in the open like like
  416. 18:47Las Vegas has this enormous dome thing
  417. 18:50but there they have the speakers near
  418. 18:51everyone like I think they have like
  419. 18:5317,000 speakers or something like that.
  420. 18:55So it's a different layout right? Um I
  421. 18:58know also we have played ourselves in in
  422. 19:01many venues. You see it in classical
  423. 19:02venues for instance where they use
  424. 19:04speakers to alter the acoustics of a
  425. 19:07room so that it can maybe cancelled out
  426. 19:09some frequencies so that a room that is
  427. 19:12normally very loud and used to to
  428. 19:14amplify classical music can be toned
  429. 19:17down with speakers to work for a rock
  430. 19:19band or or more things. So that's
  431. 19:21different settings they can do inhouse.
  432. 19:23Kind of the same technology I guess you
  433. 19:25have in noise cancellation in your ears
  434. 19:27and stuff like that. So we have tried
  435. 19:28that but what what we attempted at doing
  436. 19:32together with my sound at Rosskilo
  437. 19:34festival was more way more a like like a
  438. 19:37big setup right like where you have the
  439. 19:40speakers around the audience right which
  440. 19:42is
  441. 19:44a a bit more like like scaling your home
  442. 19:48sty surround sound up in an insane size
  443. 19:51right and to my to my knowledge that was
  444. 19:53the first time
  445. 19:55uh and and we learned quite a
  446. 19:58doing that uh in terms of how
  447. 20:03what you can actually do and also most
  448. 20:05important what can you not do right and
  449. 20:07and I think you know we are still at
  450. 20:09baby steps here because it took us a
  451. 20:12year or something to prepare at least
  452. 20:15right and uh I don't think everyone has
  453. 20:17the money for it or or the time for it
  454. 20:20and and also not every festival will be
  455. 20:22open for it there's this thing with
  456. 20:24immersive sound that is right now it
  457. 20:26will limit the area where the audience
  458. 20:29is right so the audience becomes smaller
  459. 20:32but the PA is becoming six times more
  460. 20:35expensive right so so that is numbers
  461. 20:38people don't like in the entertainment
  462. 20:39industry I can tell you but Roskill
  463. 20:41Festival they're great people and
  464. 20:43they're crazy so they just went for it
  465. 20:45but yeah leading up to that we had a
  466. 20:48peer group with Danish artists that done
  467. 20:50similar things in a smaller scale and um
  468. 20:54um there was uh John Connor
  469. 20:57uh that that we had a lot of talks with
  470. 20:59which was doing some stuff at um
  471. 21:04at Vega uh and but that was in a small
  472. 21:07venue um I don't know how to a couple of
  473. 21:10hundred capacity right and and I think
  474. 21:15they did an amazing job putting up this
  475. 21:18all these electronic sounds everywhere
  476. 21:20and they're they're very innovative
  477. 21:22people uh doing this but I don't I think
  478. 21:26you know I don't think even there it
  479. 21:29worked there for for a smaller venue and
  480. 21:31I also think immersive will work better
  481. 21:33there but like putting those sounds
  482. 21:36direct into a let's say a setup at
  483. 21:39Roskiller festival there would be too
  484. 21:41much delay to to to put it like that.
  485. 21:44So, so, so there there's a difference in
  486. 21:47it's very much more oriented towards
  487. 21:50what kind of venue you are at. Uh, and
  488. 21:52and yeah, a lot of things has to
  489. 21:55function with that both musically but
  490. 21:58certainly also technically.
  491. 22:01Yeah, this is actually quite fantastic
  492. 22:03because uh how long everybody perceives
  493. 22:06them as something that uh is about
  494. 22:10history about something that was like
  495. 22:1340,000 years ago some bronze age and
  496. 22:15what not and now we are talking
  497. 22:17basically cutting edge innovation that
  498. 22:20>> these two things can meet each other
  499. 22:22right because you know like like Hilong
  500. 22:25is in its production the highest tech
  501. 22:29you can get like on on stage. We always
  502. 22:31have we have the newest inear, we have
  503. 22:33the newest mixers, we have the newest
  504. 22:35light consoles, the to have the newest
  505. 22:38version of the acoustic PA today and
  506. 22:40everything is new new new, right? But
  507. 22:42it's there for a reason. It's not only
  508. 22:44just to be, you know, oh, we we play on
  509. 22:47all the fancy things. Of course, we do
  510. 22:48that, too. But you actually want
  511. 22:50technology to be invincible at one
  512. 22:52point, right? The the time where you
  513. 22:54start thinking about a speaker or a
  514. 22:56specific light, right? That's where
  515. 22:59you've been putting away from the
  516. 23:00immersion, right? So, you need this very
  517. 23:02high quality gear so you don't hear a
  518. 23:07bang when they change the microphone or
  519. 23:09you don't see a faulty lamp or something
  520. 23:12weird happens, right? That takes you out
  521. 23:14of the bubble because the art of Hilong
  522. 23:16and and our context and where we come
  523. 23:18from is of course ancient, right? and
  524. 23:21and and amplifying this and put it into
  525. 23:24a reality where you want people to feel
  526. 23:27something specific, right? You cannot
  527. 23:30have technology in the way. Technology
  528. 23:34has to carry it and and be invisible
  529. 23:36while doing so. Then you then technology
  530. 23:38did a job. Kind of like the composer
  531. 23:40also, right? You don't want to think,
  532. 23:42wow, they really composed this song
  533. 23:45fantastic in in in this particular way.
  534. 23:47Of course, I'm happy when people do
  535. 23:49that. But during the actual experience
  536. 23:52of of of a life ritual as we do, I want
  537. 23:56people to feel immersed. I want people
  538. 23:59to be healed. I want people to get their
  539. 24:02visions. I want them to to come out on
  540. 24:05the other side changed, right? And and
  541. 24:08there that is way more difficult than
  542. 24:10just, oh, look at my brilliant guitar
  543. 24:12solo something, right? or or whatever
  544. 24:14solo instrument you want to play because
  545. 24:17then it takes it out of the focus of the
  546. 24:19unity in the whole thing, right? So,
  547. 24:21Hilong is written, produced and also on
  548. 24:24a technical level put in a space where
  549. 24:29it can both be very, you know, present
  550. 24:33whatever we wish to present to you,
  551. 24:35whether that is light, sound, whatever,
  552. 24:36or a combination of the two. but can
  553. 24:38also be invisible in the way that you
  554. 24:43are being intentionally put through a
  555. 24:46dream state where we try to remove you
  556. 24:50from this reality. Put you into a
  557. 24:53mindset of the past using the future
  558. 24:58and hopefully when those combine and you
  559. 25:01come out on the other side you will feel
  560. 25:04healed and different. I think the world
  561. 25:07would be a better place if we could
  562. 25:10focus less on the individual and rather
  563. 25:13focus on what we can achieve together.
  564. 25:16Right? And history tells us over and
  565. 25:19over and over again whenever we fail
  566. 25:23this statement,
  567. 25:25right? That's where it starts to go to
  568. 25:27basically, right? And and that's
  569. 25:31why it's very important and I know I
  570. 25:34have this backing from all my core
  571. 25:36members. It's not about the individual
  572. 25:38in Hyo like like the two lead singers
  573. 25:42wear masks.
  574. 25:44You don't see who they are. We the main
  575. 25:47composer dude producer whatever
  576. 25:50he stands in black in the shadow right
  577. 25:54it's not about the individual here it's
  578. 25:57about the tribe and the when you are at
  579. 26:00a ritual with us in the audience right
  580. 26:03we were actually thinking when we were
  581. 26:05planning the first rituals that we
  582. 26:07should do it with the audience but we
  583. 26:10also very quickly learned that that it
  584. 26:13would be too messy and and the danger of
  585. 26:16of personal or or or
  586. 26:19equipment and stuff like that could be
  587. 26:21damaged simply because it gets quite
  588. 26:23wild at the end and then you have sharp
  589. 26:25spears and stuff like that. We needed to
  590. 26:27have a barrier in a way but then we of
  591. 26:30course get the warriors down and dance
  592. 26:33with people. So there is the touch,
  593. 26:34right? Because Highland ritual is is as
  594. 26:37for those that don't know it, it is both
  595. 26:38sound and it's visuals, but it's also
  596. 26:42smell in terms of the the the incense
  597. 26:45and it's touch in terms of the warriors
  598. 26:48dancing together with with the audience,
  599. 26:50right? And and why this is important is
  600. 26:53because half of the concert is produced
  601. 26:56inside at least, maybe more, but half of
  602. 26:59it at least is produced inside the
  603. 27:01spectator, right?
  604. 27:03Like like anything you do in life,
  605. 27:05everything you do as an individual, you
  606. 27:08record life through your ears and your
  607. 27:10eyes. And that is your measurement
  608. 27:13system where you take in and your brain
  609. 27:15will then interpret. That is true if you
  610. 27:19are a scientist, a religious, a
  611. 27:21spiritual, if you are astral traveling
  612. 27:24somewhere, you are still experiencing it
  613. 27:27through your brain.
  614. 27:30And when you come to a hilong show, you
  615. 27:34are experiencing something through that
  616. 27:36canal also.
  617. 27:38So what you are hearing for instance
  618. 27:41just think about this one thing when you
  619. 27:44hear a high song or any song any band
  620. 27:46right and you are walking at home right
  621. 27:49try to do yourself this little mind
  622. 27:51trick okay take pick any song you know
  623. 27:54right and then listen to the song in
  624. 27:58your head while while while maybe you
  625. 28:00hum it inside of yourself right then
  626. 28:03change the lyric of the person singing
  627. 28:05in your head it will still be the same
  628. 28:07voice you here. It might sound like
  629. 28:09Maria's voice singing, but you can
  630. 28:11change her lyrics. How can you do that
  631. 28:14if that is us putting it there? Because
  632. 28:17of course we we we had an input to your
  633. 28:21human converter that put music inside of
  634. 28:23you. But the things that is inside of
  635. 28:25you after that sounding exactly like the
  636. 28:28one you remember from when you saw it on
  637. 28:30YouTube or whatever a live show, it's
  638. 28:33you. It's you singing with the voice of
  639. 28:36Maria and the drums of Nick and Jacob
  640. 28:39and whatever and shouting like the
  641. 28:41warriors inside of your mind. It's your
  642. 28:43mind capturing it, but it's you doing it
  643. 28:46and you can change it. And and that's
  644. 28:49why the show when you experience it
  645. 28:52live, the way you hear it and you
  646. 28:54interpret it live is you. So the show is
  647. 28:57made by you. We only give you the first
  648. 29:00hint, but you are making the music.
  649. 29:05We are very lucky in H High, right? We
  650. 29:10we get to work every day on on the
  651. 29:14greatest machines, the greatest
  652. 29:16equipment with the deepest people, local
  653. 29:20people, tribal people, our own people.
  654. 29:24Um, but I can tell you everyone working
  655. 29:27also to make these
  656. 29:30fancy studio equipment and and life
  657. 29:32equipment and the light and the people
  658. 29:34behind that, they have so much heart
  659. 29:36with them making this equipment. The
  660. 29:39best thing they know is to see how an
  661. 29:42artist takes their stuff and makes
  662. 29:45something great, right? That's what they
  663. 29:46want, right? And and that is uh
  664. 29:51that is very often forget forgotten. I
  665. 29:55think you know that there is an art in
  666. 29:57everything you do. I believe there's an
  667. 30:00art in how you make these machines and
  668. 30:04these lamps and and and and and audio
  669. 30:09processors. There's an art in how you
  670. 30:11manage a venue. There's a art in how you
  671. 30:14produce a tour and how you safely put
  672. 30:18people through a tour and without people
  673. 30:22being sick, without getting stressed,
  674. 30:25without people feeling that they're not
  675. 30:27appreciated, right? Both within the
  676. 30:30group but also outside. There's a
  677. 30:32there's a art form in booking shows,
  678. 30:36right? There's a whole world of people
  679. 30:38that that meets each other regularly all
  680. 30:40over the planet, right? that our booking
  681. 30:43department will meet and and and they
  682. 30:46come with a good heart, right? And and
  683. 30:49understand and all our promoters and
  684. 30:51everyone working with it, they all
  685. 30:53understand what we are trying to achieve
  686. 30:55and they are part of our family, right?
  687. 30:57So, it's a very big network of very very
  688. 31:01good people that do the best they can to
  689. 31:05to to make this piece of art real for
  690. 31:08you, right? Um, and I think people
  691. 31:13should do themselves a favor once in a
  692. 31:15while just to stand up and consider the
  693. 31:17joint effort it is for them to remember
  694. 31:21that moment, right? Not about the
  695. 31:23individual necessary, but just how
  696. 31:25magnificent it is that so many different
  697. 31:27people can come together and they can
  698. 31:30make it work, right? That could be a
  699. 31:32blueprint for other things, right?
  700. 31:34because it's people's different energies
  701. 31:38and different specialtities and knowhow.
  702. 31:42If we can get over the idea that we
  703. 31:44don't have to be equal, but we can be of
  704. 31:46equal value, right? And if we can learn
  705. 31:50from that, sure this person knows
  706. 31:52something completely different like like
  707. 31:54imagine a small village or something.
  708. 31:56This person can know something
  709. 31:57completely different than me, right? But
  710. 32:00I don't need to force that person to be
  711. 32:02who I am. Right? But together we are
  712. 32:06more. That's our species. That's our
  713. 32:09tradition. And we can take this and
  714. 32:12everything can be greater and grander if
  715. 32:15we have that respect for each other. And
  716. 32:18Hilong I think is a good example on that
  717. 32:20because we have
  718. 32:2316 plus nationalities now in all age
  719. 32:26groups all different types of beliefs
  720. 32:29all different worlds even we're not some
  721. 32:32of us is not even on the same plane at
  722. 32:34this point right and we have people down
  723. 32:37like that that know everything in their
  724. 32:39field but there's not a person in this
  725. 32:42group in anywhere whether that is in the
  726. 32:45booking the record label the the live
  727. 32:49crew, the our performers, our core,
  728. 32:52anyone. There's no one that do not have
  729. 32:55the biggest respect for everyone else
  730. 32:58that works on this and that is what I
  731. 33:01believe makes Hilong so immersive.
  732. 33:04>> Thank you so much for today. Um I wish
  733. 33:07you a great tour ahead. Thank you for
  734. 33:10your time.
  735. 33:10>> Thank you.
  736. 33:16[Music]

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