Christopher Juul (HEILUNG) — The future sound of the past — Interview on March 7, 2025 — Transcript
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- 0:00You are being intentionally put through
- 0:03a dream state where we try to remove you
- 0:07from this reality. Put you into a
- 0:09mindset of the past using the future.
- 0:15>> I have more outputs on my station than a
- 0:18full band will have in a normal band.
- 0:22>> I don't want this show to be about the
- 0:25people producing the music. I want it to
- 0:28be for the people that are there and
- 0:30experiencing it.
- 0:33>> Hello. Today we are talking to
- 0:35Christopher Ule from Hilong.
- 0:37>> And um I wanted this interview to be
- 0:39more about um yourself. What is your
- 0:42biography, how you came to be like
- 0:46>> uh the artist you are and also about the
- 0:49scient sound of Hilong. So can you can
- 0:52we just start from how you became a
- 0:54musician?
- 0:55So I learned playing an instrument
- 0:58before I could speak. So at a very young
- 1:01age. I'm I'm born into a musician family
- 1:05and a creative family. Um
- 1:09and I learned playing very early on. I
- 1:11started playing classical music the most
- 1:13as a child and also studied that.
- 1:18Um most of what I do is self-taught. Um
- 1:23I have also taught um music to others in
- 1:28various degrees. Um,
- 1:31I founded Lava Studios in Copenhagen for
- 1:35a
- 1:37for a reason. Like very early on we
- 1:42Denmark at the time was I think very
- 1:45very in a in in in in their music it was
- 1:49in a bad state I would say. Right. I'm
- 1:51not complaining about what the other
- 1:53people do, but in terms of of um being
- 1:56connected with your roots and and and
- 1:59being connected to world music in
- 2:01general, of folk music, um
- 2:05at the time it was easier to just look
- 2:06to Norway or Sweden because they were
- 2:08way more
- 2:10connected with their with their heritage
- 2:13in terms of their music. Uh so I thought
- 2:15that was sad. So, so I I spent a lot of
- 2:18time
- 2:20uh playing and producing music within
- 2:23this realm uh some years back.
- 2:27Um
- 2:29yeah, and a couple of hundred albums
- 2:31later I'm still doing that. But the the
- 2:35last the last five six years has been
- 2:38mainly focused on my own projects.
- 2:42However, we are
- 2:44growing also in my production facility
- 2:47and we are starting to take more clients
- 2:51in and it's very exciting. Yeah.
- 2:54>> I know that your father is actually a a
- 2:56pagan priest or something.
- 2:59You didn't want to be like as spiritual
- 3:01as he is or
- 3:03>> No, I think my dad and I are quite
- 3:06similar actually in terms of our
- 3:08worldview and and our look at north
- 3:13mythology and stuff like that. Um it's
- 3:17true I am not
- 3:20I'm not necessarily
- 3:22I would not identify myself as a
- 3:25shamanic person at all but uh but I'm
- 3:28not um
- 3:30I follow I follow a very old codeex and
- 3:33a lot of the things and the teachings
- 3:35from for instance Haramile and other
- 3:37things I think is very adaptable to to
- 3:40how you live today and how you rule a
- 3:43pack and how you treat a person coming
- 3:45to your doorstep and you know how also
- 3:49maybe to ask a person to leave or
- 3:51whatever right be kind also that that is
- 3:54a thing um and a lot of that there's a
- 3:58lot of symbolism for that that I have
- 3:59been taught since early childhood and
- 4:03and and still carry with me like my
- 4:05father and I we we have been sailing a
- 4:08lot in my life we we were sailors and um
- 4:11I got to see the world quite early on um
- 4:16um but I think it was always with a very
- 4:19strong root on on where I come from. Uh
- 4:23and uh yeah, I'm proud of that.
- 4:25>> I would say that on stage you are on the
- 4:28left side. It's rarely you come in
- 4:30front. But I'd like to stress that your
- 4:33sound is something that is basically all
- 4:36the hilong is built on because without
- 4:39that sound there will be no
- 4:42uh nothing like no impression. Um
- 4:47the show the ritual is very important
- 4:50but it's built on the songs. Mhm.
- 4:53>> Um so and basically what Halong does is
- 4:58to
- 5:00produces music uh based on ancient uh
- 5:05scriptures and like inscriptions and so
- 5:08on and probably some ancient sources
- 5:11about music. what it takes to take those
- 5:15sources and make them
- 5:19uh sound
- 5:21so immersive to current audience. What
- 5:23what job you have to do like when you
- 5:26have just your sources?
- 5:29>> U you're absolutely right. Um that um I
- 5:33don't put myself in in very much focus.
- 5:36Let's start there. Uh I do this for a
- 5:39reason. um like like I'm like on on the
- 5:43side of the stage in darkness painted
- 5:45black and and in a black clothes, you
- 5:47know, so I'm kind of, you know,
- 5:50um invisible, I guess, as much as
- 5:52possible. I don't do this because I
- 5:54don't want to interact with audience
- 5:55that I also do interact when I can, but
- 5:58but I don't want um I don't want the
- 6:01show to be about the people, right? It
- 6:06might sound weird because folk music is
- 6:08music for the people, but I don't want
- 6:10it to be about the people producing the
- 6:13music for the people. I want it to be
- 6:16for the people that are there and
- 6:18experiencing it. And um and it's a
- 6:21collection of things. So yeah, I I do I
- 6:25do make all the music in Hilong, right?
- 6:27That is my my part of the thing to
- 6:31compose the music. And it's also me that
- 6:35produces this albums and mix and master
- 6:38and everything. And I also band lead
- 6:40Hilong. So, so I'm also like on on in
- 6:45terms of like getting Hilong on the road
- 6:48and lead the people here. That is my
- 6:50job. And and that takes a lot of time
- 6:53and energy of course. And it's it's a
- 6:55it's a big machine that of course cannot
- 6:57do on my own. and I have have several
- 7:00very good people helping. Um, Hilong is
- 7:04not like built on the songs and then we
- 7:08add another thing on top of it and stuff
- 7:10like that. Hilong is a collection of
- 7:13many different elements, right? So in
- 7:15the core for instance, we have three
- 7:18people creating Hilum, right? And that
- 7:20that usually comes from from source
- 7:23material from Kai. And then I I create a
- 7:27an art piece around that
- 7:30audiovisisually.
- 7:31And I also help with
- 7:35when we do artwork. For instance, Kai
- 7:37comes with drawings and then I lay out
- 7:39them and I put them into a visual
- 7:43context. Um, and that those things those
- 7:47when we make our releases in in the in
- 7:51the in a studio setting, right? Of
- 7:53course, Maria comes with her wonderful
- 7:55melodies also. But when we take these
- 7:57things from the studio and we put them
- 7:59into a live context, then you know it
- 8:03automatically goes into different
- 8:05departments that we have created
- 8:07ourselves. So in a way we call Hilong
- 8:10live like a theater for gods. And what
- 8:12we mean about it is we have
- 8:15the construction of a of a live
- 8:17performance is like a theater production
- 8:20right but it's not for you know as in a
- 8:24normal theater what we do is not acting
- 8:26we we we are us on stage in a version of
- 8:30ourselves that that follow uh what is
- 8:34inside of us but it needs structure when
- 8:36you have so many people so for instance
- 8:38Kai's drawings goes into the visual
- 8:40department and We make go with the
- 8:43light. We uh we we design everything in
- 8:46a previous room before we even go live.
- 8:49So we have like good people working at
- 8:52so we can visualize how we want it to
- 8:54look and how we want it to feel because
- 8:57like in our releases and our books, you
- 9:00know, our artwork and our visual side
- 9:03goes hand inhand with our audio side. So
- 9:06so they follow each other. uh and that
- 9:08has to be a red thread from when we do
- 9:13uh our releases until it hits your ear
- 9:16and eyes at a live performance. So that
- 9:18has to feel and be the same and it is
- 9:20the same. It's the same file even at
- 9:22times. Then there is of course the music
- 9:26side of things. So Hilong in the studio
- 9:29has no rules in terms on how we make
- 9:32music. Some things is performable, some
- 9:36things would be impossible to perform.
- 9:39Um, and that's okay. Uh, we have made
- 9:43several albums. So, so some stuff will
- 9:45work, some stuff won't. But for our um
- 9:50for our our music and our our sounds
- 9:57we we we still bring those modified
- 10:00nature sounds and then we sing to that
- 10:02live right and that creates a new
- 10:05universe. So, so for instance, what
- 10:08Hilong is for three people in a studio
- 10:10setting, we do on later albums, of
- 10:13course, invite some of our people in,
- 10:15but it's grander when we perform it
- 10:17live, right? Because we can have more
- 10:19colors, more input from different
- 10:21people, but they are following the
- 10:24compositions we are making, right? But
- 10:26making it their own. And I believe that
- 10:29is the energy that is important, not
- 10:30that someone wrote that music that
- 10:34they're playing. That is of course nice
- 10:36and that is needed in a in an orchestral
- 10:38context, right? But it's the
- 10:40collectivity of the whole piece and the
- 10:44all the energy that is done for for the
- 10:47whole thing that is important. And and
- 10:50if you look at a stage performance
- 10:51specifically like here we are 30 50
- 10:54people on the road, right? and the guy
- 10:57that hangs in the morning up in the rick
- 11:00putting up our new brand new speakers
- 11:02and stuff like that. It's much a part to
- 11:05do that. It's a wonderful evening as the
- 11:07composer of the music, right? It's a
- 11:09collective thing and we have handpicked
- 11:12every single one that is here and
- 11:15everything that is here is handpicked by
- 11:17us including the the the stage, the
- 11:20speakers, the light, everything is
- 11:22something we bring so we can ensure that
- 11:26the output we intend to give you in the
- 11:29audience and the pictures you can then
- 11:31build in yourself seeing this
- 11:33performance is you know there's there's
- 11:36an idea behind everything. Maybe I just
- 11:38ask like what is
- 11:41on your console when you play live on uh
- 11:45stage?
- 11:46>> What I play with?
- 11:47>> Yeah. Is it some
- 11:48>> Oh, that's a lot of things. Uh
- 11:52um
- 11:54there's a lot of machines and and and
- 11:56loopers and stuff like that, but they
- 11:58they're meant they're meant to to you
- 12:02know, we're not here to cheat. We what
- 12:03we're doing is we are
- 12:07we are amplifying real sounds basically
- 12:09right of course we can't bring a
- 12:12waterfall with us on stage which is a
- 12:14sound we maybe use for a background
- 12:16thing that we can morph into tones and
- 12:18stuff like that uh so some things has to
- 12:21become in the beginning I was actually
- 12:24doing a lot more of what we do on the
- 12:27album in terms of you know performing it
- 12:30right and the only way at the time and
- 12:33probably also now is to use a laptop,
- 12:36right? But I I thought it was a bit
- 12:39distracting to have that big screen
- 12:41there. Uh and I mean not I mean I didn't
- 12:46don't think it's important for the live
- 12:48feeling that a specific filter is
- 12:50applied to a a nature sound. I mean that
- 12:54that filter can also just be applied as
- 12:56it is, right? It doesn't change the life
- 12:58energy. And actually by having the
- 13:01laptop removed and put into a more like
- 13:05more simple sound player, you know, it
- 13:08freed more time to to to do more real
- 13:13stuff, singing and playing and looping
- 13:16and and and all those things, right? Um,
- 13:20so yeah, our setup is also quite crazy
- 13:24because it's actually built to maintain
- 13:27an immersive show also. So I have like I
- 13:30have more outputs on my station than an
- 13:33a full band would have in a normal band,
- 13:35right? uh and that is because we are
- 13:38very much both in my studio and also
- 13:41live when one possible working in
- 13:44immersive music and immersive audio and
- 13:48uh and and that means sound all the way
- 13:50around you right so that's another realm
- 13:52where we can grasp the hand of of the
- 13:55audience
- 13:56>> so I recall that you made like one
- 13:58concert with immersive sound so far
- 14:00right
- 14:00>> we did we did one
- 14:04um
- 14:05at Rosskiller Festival which was a in in
- 14:09collaboration with Maya sound and uh
- 14:12also with Midas. We used their heritage
- 14:17system. Um
- 14:19and and yeah and the rescuer of course
- 14:21and that was that was difficult right
- 14:23because sound travel with the speed of
- 14:26sound and
- 14:28that can be difficult right because that
- 14:30can be mean when you play for 20,000
- 14:33people or whatever you know the the
- 14:34sound is delayed with up to two or three
- 14:37seconds you know so that means you can't
- 14:39just put a drummer in there because his
- 14:43beat would actually be seconds late
- 14:45which is a lot in music right so it was
- 14:47also about figuring out what is an like
- 14:50inventing the wheel again, right? Like
- 14:52back in in the day when when when
- 14:56Beatles went to stereo for instance,
- 14:58right? I like to use this anecdote. I
- 14:59also do that often when when I talk
- 15:01about immersive and that is, you know,
- 15:03at the time, you know, you went from
- 15:05mono to stereo. So, yeah. Well, let's
- 15:07just put the guitar and the drums in one
- 15:09and the singer and the bass in the other
- 15:11speaker, right? And if you lose a cable,
- 15:14you know, then you only hear half of the
- 15:16band, right?
- 15:17>> But that I guess that was an attempt at
- 15:19the time to do a sort of immersive
- 15:21experience, right? And then Quadron came
- 15:23around with the Pink Floyd live and all
- 15:25these things. Um,
- 15:28but what we're trying here is is very
- 15:31different from when you're sitting at
- 15:32home with your home surround sound or in
- 15:35your headphones where I believe
- 15:37immersive will be uh the most used in
- 15:40the future. Um because sound travel with
- 15:44the speed of sound. That is very
- 15:46important because the further away you
- 15:48are from the sound carry it doesn't
- 15:49matter how big the speaker is. Further
- 15:52away you are from the speaker you know
- 15:54the longer time it's going to take for
- 15:56the sound to hit you. Right? So that's
- 15:58okay for one person. If you're one
- 16:00person standing in an arena, sure the
- 16:02sound can hit you from different areas
- 16:04and we can time it. Right? But if you're
- 16:0620,000 people standing in 20,000
- 16:08different places, you will have 20,000
- 16:10different ways of hearing where the
- 16:12sound is coming from. And the further
- 16:14away you get from one particular
- 16:16speaker, let's say there's 12 around you
- 16:18or whatever, then of course, you know,
- 16:22it will be very difficult. So, so that
- 16:24very naturally put a limit on how you
- 16:28can actually do immersive sound live.
- 16:30And and what we discovered was that
- 16:32unless you like make little boxes of
- 16:35sound in the audience and you go with
- 16:37the whole thing, you cannot like put the
- 16:40guitarist or whatever. We don't have
- 16:41that in Hilong, but if we had one or
- 16:43whatever flute player behind you in,
- 16:46let's say, in the speaker behind all the
- 16:48audience, that wouldn't fit rhythmically
- 16:50with the rest of the band. But also, you
- 16:52don't really want to look at a at a
- 16:54flute player up there and hear him here,
- 16:56right? So, so what we figure out is that
- 17:00the sound still comes from a from where
- 17:03you see it, right? Um,
- 17:06and then what we can do then is that we
- 17:09can change the room. We can make the
- 17:11room be a different room with this
- 17:15sound. We can we can have reflections
- 17:17happening out in the speakers because
- 17:19that is natural. We are used to being in
- 17:21a big space and then of course we hear
- 17:24reflections delayed. that there is
- 17:26usually we can also of course put nature
- 17:29sounds around us and that is where where
- 17:31Hilong really fits well in right because
- 17:33what we try to do is actually create a
- 17:36sound bubble and a room for you where
- 17:38you can come in and you can be changed
- 17:40right and sound is part of that. So, so
- 17:43in that way, immersive sound is very
- 17:46tempting for us, but of course in a
- 17:49release format when we make albums and
- 17:51stuff like that. I can tell I have a
- 17:53quite impressive u immersive sound setup
- 17:57now in my studio and it's something
- 17:59we're investing a lot into to to make
- 18:01because we can see that generally the
- 18:04world is moving that way. But it is a
- 18:05different form when you have it in an
- 18:08album because you can have the sound
- 18:10close and we can we can put way more
- 18:13things around you than we can do in a
- 18:15live setting because the sound is here
- 18:17or maybe in your living room but that is
- 18:19that is not too big to to that you will
- 18:22hear any significant delay from the
- 18:26music.
- 18:28>> I wonder are there any other bands that
- 18:31try to do immersive sound or you are the
- 18:33first?
- 18:34>> Yeah. So we definitely the first to try
- 18:36it at this scale in this way at least at
- 18:39that festival. Uh to my knowledge that
- 18:41was the first time there is immersive
- 18:44sound already out in the open like like
- 18:47Las Vegas has this enormous dome thing
- 18:50but there they have the speakers near
- 18:51everyone like I think they have like
- 18:5317,000 speakers or something like that.
- 18:55So it's a different layout right? Um I
- 18:58know also we have played ourselves in in
- 19:01many venues. You see it in classical
- 19:02venues for instance where they use
- 19:04speakers to alter the acoustics of a
- 19:07room so that it can maybe cancelled out
- 19:09some frequencies so that a room that is
- 19:12normally very loud and used to to
- 19:14amplify classical music can be toned
- 19:17down with speakers to work for a rock
- 19:19band or or more things. So that's
- 19:21different settings they can do inhouse.
- 19:23Kind of the same technology I guess you
- 19:25have in noise cancellation in your ears
- 19:27and stuff like that. So we have tried
- 19:28that but what what we attempted at doing
- 19:32together with my sound at Rosskilo
- 19:34festival was more way more a like like a
- 19:37big setup right like where you have the
- 19:40speakers around the audience right which
- 19:42is
- 19:44a a bit more like like scaling your home
- 19:48sty surround sound up in an insane size
- 19:51right and to my to my knowledge that was
- 19:53the first time
- 19:55uh and and we learned quite a
- 19:58doing that uh in terms of how
- 20:03what you can actually do and also most
- 20:05important what can you not do right and
- 20:07and I think you know we are still at
- 20:09baby steps here because it took us a
- 20:12year or something to prepare at least
- 20:15right and uh I don't think everyone has
- 20:17the money for it or or the time for it
- 20:20and and also not every festival will be
- 20:22open for it there's this thing with
- 20:24immersive sound that is right now it
- 20:26will limit the area where the audience
- 20:29is right so the audience becomes smaller
- 20:32but the PA is becoming six times more
- 20:35expensive right so so that is numbers
- 20:38people don't like in the entertainment
- 20:39industry I can tell you but Roskill
- 20:41Festival they're great people and
- 20:43they're crazy so they just went for it
- 20:45but yeah leading up to that we had a
- 20:48peer group with Danish artists that done
- 20:50similar things in a smaller scale and um
- 20:54um there was uh John Connor
- 20:57uh that that we had a lot of talks with
- 20:59which was doing some stuff at um
- 21:04at Vega uh and but that was in a small
- 21:07venue um I don't know how to a couple of
- 21:10hundred capacity right and and I think
- 21:15they did an amazing job putting up this
- 21:18all these electronic sounds everywhere
- 21:20and they're they're very innovative
- 21:22people uh doing this but I don't I think
- 21:26you know I don't think even there it
- 21:29worked there for for a smaller venue and
- 21:31I also think immersive will work better
- 21:33there but like putting those sounds
- 21:36direct into a let's say a setup at
- 21:39Roskiller festival there would be too
- 21:41much delay to to to put it like that.
- 21:44So, so, so there there's a difference in
- 21:47it's very much more oriented towards
- 21:50what kind of venue you are at. Uh, and
- 21:52and yeah, a lot of things has to
- 21:55function with that both musically but
- 21:58certainly also technically.
- 22:01Yeah, this is actually quite fantastic
- 22:03because uh how long everybody perceives
- 22:06them as something that uh is about
- 22:10history about something that was like
- 22:1340,000 years ago some bronze age and
- 22:15what not and now we are talking
- 22:17basically cutting edge innovation that
- 22:20>> these two things can meet each other
- 22:22right because you know like like Hilong
- 22:25is in its production the highest tech
- 22:29you can get like on on stage. We always
- 22:31have we have the newest inear, we have
- 22:33the newest mixers, we have the newest
- 22:35light consoles, the to have the newest
- 22:38version of the acoustic PA today and
- 22:40everything is new new new, right? But
- 22:42it's there for a reason. It's not only
- 22:44just to be, you know, oh, we we play on
- 22:47all the fancy things. Of course, we do
- 22:48that, too. But you actually want
- 22:50technology to be invincible at one
- 22:52point, right? The the time where you
- 22:54start thinking about a speaker or a
- 22:56specific light, right? That's where
- 22:59you've been putting away from the
- 23:00immersion, right? So, you need this very
- 23:02high quality gear so you don't hear a
- 23:07bang when they change the microphone or
- 23:09you don't see a faulty lamp or something
- 23:12weird happens, right? That takes you out
- 23:14of the bubble because the art of Hilong
- 23:16and and our context and where we come
- 23:18from is of course ancient, right? and
- 23:21and and amplifying this and put it into
- 23:24a reality where you want people to feel
- 23:27something specific, right? You cannot
- 23:30have technology in the way. Technology
- 23:34has to carry it and and be invisible
- 23:36while doing so. Then you then technology
- 23:38did a job. Kind of like the composer
- 23:40also, right? You don't want to think,
- 23:42wow, they really composed this song
- 23:45fantastic in in in this particular way.
- 23:47Of course, I'm happy when people do
- 23:49that. But during the actual experience
- 23:52of of of a life ritual as we do, I want
- 23:56people to feel immersed. I want people
- 23:59to be healed. I want people to get their
- 24:02visions. I want them to to come out on
- 24:05the other side changed, right? And and
- 24:08there that is way more difficult than
- 24:10just, oh, look at my brilliant guitar
- 24:12solo something, right? or or whatever
- 24:14solo instrument you want to play because
- 24:17then it takes it out of the focus of the
- 24:19unity in the whole thing, right? So,
- 24:21Hilong is written, produced and also on
- 24:24a technical level put in a space where
- 24:29it can both be very, you know, present
- 24:33whatever we wish to present to you,
- 24:35whether that is light, sound, whatever,
- 24:36or a combination of the two. but can
- 24:38also be invisible in the way that you
- 24:43are being intentionally put through a
- 24:46dream state where we try to remove you
- 24:50from this reality. Put you into a
- 24:53mindset of the past using the future
- 24:58and hopefully when those combine and you
- 25:01come out on the other side you will feel
- 25:04healed and different. I think the world
- 25:07would be a better place if we could
- 25:10focus less on the individual and rather
- 25:13focus on what we can achieve together.
- 25:16Right? And history tells us over and
- 25:19over and over again whenever we fail
- 25:23this statement,
- 25:25right? That's where it starts to go to
- 25:27basically, right? And and that's
- 25:31why it's very important and I know I
- 25:34have this backing from all my core
- 25:36members. It's not about the individual
- 25:38in Hyo like like the two lead singers
- 25:42wear masks.
- 25:44You don't see who they are. We the main
- 25:47composer dude producer whatever
- 25:50he stands in black in the shadow right
- 25:54it's not about the individual here it's
- 25:57about the tribe and the when you are at
- 26:00a ritual with us in the audience right
- 26:03we were actually thinking when we were
- 26:05planning the first rituals that we
- 26:07should do it with the audience but we
- 26:10also very quickly learned that that it
- 26:13would be too messy and and the danger of
- 26:16of personal or or or
- 26:19equipment and stuff like that could be
- 26:21damaged simply because it gets quite
- 26:23wild at the end and then you have sharp
- 26:25spears and stuff like that. We needed to
- 26:27have a barrier in a way but then we of
- 26:30course get the warriors down and dance
- 26:33with people. So there is the touch,
- 26:34right? Because Highland ritual is is as
- 26:37for those that don't know it, it is both
- 26:38sound and it's visuals, but it's also
- 26:42smell in terms of the the the incense
- 26:45and it's touch in terms of the warriors
- 26:48dancing together with with the audience,
- 26:50right? And and why this is important is
- 26:53because half of the concert is produced
- 26:56inside at least, maybe more, but half of
- 26:59it at least is produced inside the
- 27:01spectator, right?
- 27:03Like like anything you do in life,
- 27:05everything you do as an individual, you
- 27:08record life through your ears and your
- 27:10eyes. And that is your measurement
- 27:13system where you take in and your brain
- 27:15will then interpret. That is true if you
- 27:19are a scientist, a religious, a
- 27:21spiritual, if you are astral traveling
- 27:24somewhere, you are still experiencing it
- 27:27through your brain.
- 27:30And when you come to a hilong show, you
- 27:34are experiencing something through that
- 27:36canal also.
- 27:38So what you are hearing for instance
- 27:41just think about this one thing when you
- 27:44hear a high song or any song any band
- 27:46right and you are walking at home right
- 27:49try to do yourself this little mind
- 27:51trick okay take pick any song you know
- 27:54right and then listen to the song in
- 27:58your head while while while maybe you
- 28:00hum it inside of yourself right then
- 28:03change the lyric of the person singing
- 28:05in your head it will still be the same
- 28:07voice you here. It might sound like
- 28:09Maria's voice singing, but you can
- 28:11change her lyrics. How can you do that
- 28:14if that is us putting it there? Because
- 28:17of course we we we had an input to your
- 28:21human converter that put music inside of
- 28:23you. But the things that is inside of
- 28:25you after that sounding exactly like the
- 28:28one you remember from when you saw it on
- 28:30YouTube or whatever a live show, it's
- 28:33you. It's you singing with the voice of
- 28:36Maria and the drums of Nick and Jacob
- 28:39and whatever and shouting like the
- 28:41warriors inside of your mind. It's your
- 28:43mind capturing it, but it's you doing it
- 28:46and you can change it. And and that's
- 28:49why the show when you experience it
- 28:52live, the way you hear it and you
- 28:54interpret it live is you. So the show is
- 28:57made by you. We only give you the first
- 29:00hint, but you are making the music.
- 29:05We are very lucky in H High, right? We
- 29:10we get to work every day on on the
- 29:14greatest machines, the greatest
- 29:16equipment with the deepest people, local
- 29:20people, tribal people, our own people.
- 29:24Um, but I can tell you everyone working
- 29:27also to make these
- 29:30fancy studio equipment and and life
- 29:32equipment and the light and the people
- 29:34behind that, they have so much heart
- 29:36with them making this equipment. The
- 29:39best thing they know is to see how an
- 29:42artist takes their stuff and makes
- 29:45something great, right? That's what they
- 29:46want, right? And and that is uh
- 29:51that is very often forget forgotten. I
- 29:55think you know that there is an art in
- 29:57everything you do. I believe there's an
- 30:00art in how you make these machines and
- 30:04these lamps and and and and and audio
- 30:09processors. There's an art in how you
- 30:11manage a venue. There's a art in how you
- 30:14produce a tour and how you safely put
- 30:18people through a tour and without people
- 30:22being sick, without getting stressed,
- 30:25without people feeling that they're not
- 30:27appreciated, right? Both within the
- 30:30group but also outside. There's a
- 30:32there's a art form in booking shows,
- 30:36right? There's a whole world of people
- 30:38that that meets each other regularly all
- 30:40over the planet, right? that our booking
- 30:43department will meet and and and they
- 30:46come with a good heart, right? And and
- 30:49understand and all our promoters and
- 30:51everyone working with it, they all
- 30:53understand what we are trying to achieve
- 30:55and they are part of our family, right?
- 30:57So, it's a very big network of very very
- 31:01good people that do the best they can to
- 31:05to to make this piece of art real for
- 31:08you, right? Um, and I think people
- 31:13should do themselves a favor once in a
- 31:15while just to stand up and consider the
- 31:17joint effort it is for them to remember
- 31:21that moment, right? Not about the
- 31:23individual necessary, but just how
- 31:25magnificent it is that so many different
- 31:27people can come together and they can
- 31:30make it work, right? That could be a
- 31:32blueprint for other things, right?
- 31:34because it's people's different energies
- 31:38and different specialtities and knowhow.
- 31:42If we can get over the idea that we
- 31:44don't have to be equal, but we can be of
- 31:46equal value, right? And if we can learn
- 31:50from that, sure this person knows
- 31:52something completely different like like
- 31:54imagine a small village or something.
- 31:56This person can know something
- 31:57completely different than me, right? But
- 32:00I don't need to force that person to be
- 32:02who I am. Right? But together we are
- 32:06more. That's our species. That's our
- 32:09tradition. And we can take this and
- 32:12everything can be greater and grander if
- 32:15we have that respect for each other. And
- 32:18Hilong I think is a good example on that
- 32:20because we have
- 32:2316 plus nationalities now in all age
- 32:26groups all different types of beliefs
- 32:29all different worlds even we're not some
- 32:32of us is not even on the same plane at
- 32:34this point right and we have people down
- 32:37like that that know everything in their
- 32:39field but there's not a person in this
- 32:42group in anywhere whether that is in the
- 32:45booking the record label the the live
- 32:49crew, the our performers, our core,
- 32:52anyone. There's no one that do not have
- 32:55the biggest respect for everyone else
- 32:58that works on this and that is what I
- 33:01believe makes Hilong so immersive.
- 33:04>> Thank you so much for today. Um I wish
- 33:07you a great tour ahead. Thank you for
- 33:10your time.
- 33:10>> Thank you.
- 33:16[Music]
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