CHRIS WATTS: Chris Watts girlfriend Nichol Kessinger's full Police interview. — Transcript
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- 0:01here's good I'll be right back all right
- 0:08it's going to be change the skin
- 0:10introduce yourself all right you ready
- 0:54all right yeah these rings are recorded
- 0:58so interesting here so subject to
- 1:02recording just so you know and you said
- 1:04on your text that you might have
- 1:06remembers in your stuff so there's two
- 1:08more poems first I need to they gave me
- 1:11a piece of paper to transform my
- 1:13contacts wouldn't do it for me but today
- 1:16we'll just put on a high-five
- 1:22they sent a follow this app I can't even
- 1:25find the App Store on this phone is it
- 1:29Android yeah so strange I I tried to
- 1:37transfer all the stuff from this on this
- 1:40home last night and started sinking up
- 1:42like old text like so I don't even have
- 1:44saved in here we're here from Percy a
- 1:47few but not many it's pretty short
- 1:49there's like 10 or 12 and there's like a
- 1:52few from those days but most of it is
- 1:55hello hey nice to meet you yeah I'm good
- 2:01together thanks to me to do how are you
- 2:04doing alright getting through it try it
- 2:07yeah just now just now you need to look
- 2:11stressed out did you get some therapy
- 2:13figure now I'm waiting for the table
- 2:22need to knit when Sarah basil comes in
- 2:24and work so both counties just I had to
- 2:28write a letter that's been for well
- 2:29county to approve to pay for her
- 2:33treatment
- 2:33oh and had separate short board because
- 2:36it's kind of unusual yeah she's not an
- 2:38eyewitness right but it's out of life
- 2:42there was not going to opposition to it
- 2:43it's just a process yeah so when you go
- 2:47through the text messages Tandy and
- 2:48probably Stacy will be there okay so you
- 2:50guys know each other or if they reach
- 2:53out to you you know that they're not 30
- 2:55the community view your card generally I
- 2:58got everyone I just think I'm with this
- 3:01new pond it's like I got so many numbers
- 3:03that I I'm sure I'm sure
- 3:05I need to see what that ladies do to
- 3:07tell me all my contacts from this one so
- 3:09I can do a second I'm happy to help help
- 3:11me because watch me that attitude
- 3:13instruction this is your open this is
- 3:17the one that I use for communication
- 3:18this is well that's going to it okay so
- 3:20online this is I'm sure I know I some
- 3:23suck I don't need to have that okay so
- 3:26you're going to want to move contacts
- 3:27from there to there that's all I knew
- 3:29once you guys do that then you guys have
- 3:31home I mean he gave me a way to do it so
- 3:35I think I need to connect to Wi-Fi and
- 3:37then I'm going to download this app and
- 3:39then I think once I download it I can
- 3:42sync it up and I need to just download
- 3:44that mumble fault so let me get a guy
- 3:47who knows about Wi-Fi is your password
- 3:51still six five three zero three eight
- 3:53yeah that so that's going to be that one
- 3:55in which we're tone of getting all the
- 3:58new text messages your new home when we
- 4:01go to you and then like now we do what
- 4:02you're saying like they're out of order
- 4:04or scrambled or missing
- 4:05they don't make sense I got super
- 4:08excited when I saw them it so sick maybe
- 4:10it'll be on but it's not so maybe you
- 4:14want to us we have a device that they
- 4:16bring down
- 4:18this one I do re I mean I won't throw
- 4:20work but we can try it here mommy you
- 4:22turn around
- 4:23thank you and they Kevin don't go to get
- 4:25home after hours we show you that we
- 4:30were okay okay are you guys very
- 4:34respectful she has her own smartphone
- 4:35but when she ranked her accounts a bunch
- 4:38of messages between her and Chris were
- 4:40recovered on our new phone okay so I'm
- 4:43at probably just celebrate on our phone
- 4:46so we have to take all yeah no doubt
- 4:49okay good here perfect that give the
- 4:52monitor anything please start
- 4:59okay so ass
- 5:55waters push anything else okay so we
- 5:59didn't hear interview with us or ask you
- 6:07[Music]
- 9:13[Music]
- 9:33you
- 10:45[Music]
- 12:35all right there goes that guy's coming
- 12:37to help us
- 12:38I just I would do it myself but it's
- 12:41like there's so many different noises
- 12:44falling here okay like right now swords
- 12:46not very new this is okay I haven't used
- 12:49this since like 2016 and so all these
- 12:54numbers on here are numbers of people
- 12:56I've gotten since then what I don't want
- 12:58it was like the media so this is going
- 13:01on is have a phone just full on the on
- 13:04contact
- 13:04sure thank you so he's going to come
- 13:06over and turn your Wi-Fi on I figure out
- 13:09how to move and he knows about me that I
- 13:13get love so your phone this time Joe any
- 13:20objections just looking at everything in
- 13:22your phone why do you need that I'm just
- 13:24curious like why do you need everything
- 13:26at the poses sorry
- 13:27well because these easier to get and if
- 13:31we're looking at all the material let's
- 13:35say I take everything off your phone I
- 13:36can put it day in like let's say August
- 13:3910th through the 15th because there's
- 13:41are critical days but other
- 13:44conversations between you and Chris or
- 13:46other text messages between your Chris
- 13:48from June or July then it makes it
- 13:53harder for me to find el lunes to
- 13:55understand what I mean it's easier for
- 13:56them say just take everything I don't
- 13:58know are they yeah I mean extra Pro when
- 14:01I first not
- 14:03okay and then what about your phone it's
- 14:08always his night hands I remember all
- 14:11all right like it in Mali that on our
- 14:13original we talked about your GPS locate
- 14:17like knowing where your phone is a
- 14:20certain timing you guys can have a lot I
- 14:22just look like oh my god some tips on
- 14:24here between me and all my friends I'm
- 14:25like do they really want all this stuff
- 14:27well is there anything in those texts
- 14:29that you'd be concerned with so not
- 14:34really your yes or no no I mean my ID
- 14:36other day my dad and I decided to do
- 14:38some damage control cuz a lot of people
- 14:40were like hey these call me I don't say
- 14:42I just old more like I didn't say
- 14:44anything I pretty much just said me a
- 14:47just contact you tell them
- 14:49no comment like please be nice to them
- 14:52you do not need to talk to them it was
- 14:54like I'm safe on trouble and breaking
- 14:57laws and I was just like just on your
- 14:59level sport and I was all I said to
- 15:01people as soon as that prompt all the
- 15:03phone calls people to help you okay they
- 15:05were prompting me that is why I did that
- 15:08because I didn't even want to like save
- 15:10that but I was getting all sorts of text
- 15:13from people that were like media
- 15:15shouldn't contact me I don't want to I
- 15:17didn't tell them I was a witness I
- 15:20didn't tell them anything about that it
- 15:22was just like just say no comment I need
- 15:25you to do this and then a couple of my
- 15:28life super super close friends I asked
- 15:29them if they would be courteous enough
- 15:31to take all the pictures that we have of
- 15:32each other on Facebook social
- 15:35yes and that was like a couple of really
- 15:37close friends is there any text messages
- 15:40between you and friends that reference
- 15:42anything that would be concerning
- 15:45regarding his cakes no like talking
- 15:48about Chris I think he told me that
- 15:50you've never even really talked with my
- 15:52friends about him no and like my
- 15:54friend's dad died last night like
- 15:56yesterday melody about that no I know
- 15:59but she's certainly she started like
- 16:04freaking ashes I don't know what's going
- 16:06on your life she's how those are
- 16:08pertains to this case and she would just
- 16:10send me like a screenshot of a news
- 16:12article of that case and she was just
- 16:14like she's like what about conversation
- 16:17I I didn't mention that it would had
- 16:19anything to do with that she said I
- 16:21don't know that's what it is
- 16:22he works in a the dark up she's like I
- 16:24really don't give a [ __ ] she's like I
- 16:26just really need you to be here with me
- 16:27and my dad and this is this and this and
- 16:29she was just kind of upset because I
- 16:31asked her to police say no comment to
- 16:35media and happened to be like writing
- 16:37her dad died and I think she was feeling
- 16:39a little like yeah but I mean you guys
- 16:43can read this there's nothing in there
- 16:45me actually saying anything about it I
- 16:47just thought you're so numbering
- 16:48something to zero business income over
- 16:50those on this one since six 9605 so no I
- 16:55mean you guys can equate so between
- 16:58there was a conversation that I asked
- 17:01you about between you and Charlotte X
- 17:02the same girl that sang girl was
- 17:04freaking out so was there ever a
- 17:06conversation about kids with you and
- 17:09Charlotte like you I can't remember the
- 17:12exact context but I never saw hang out
- 17:14with the guy who had kids okay um he has
- 17:19not even like boy till your conversation
- 17:22about him having kids how did that go I
- 17:28don't did you hear me stammers and so I
- 17:31didn't know the reason to delete
- 17:33anything else in life only reason I
- 17:35believe it all this stuff with Christmas
- 17:37because he was making me feel really
- 17:39uncomfortable and I didn't want to see
- 17:42it in my phone anymore um yeah let me
- 17:44scroll all the way back here - girl talk
- 17:47Allah know she is like so that's just
- 17:50what we're here because we talked about
- 17:53this before but we didn't talk about
- 17:55this specific context of what that
- 17:57message said regarding to children
- 17:59so obviously in the situation that we're
- 18:03looking at now with the death of two
- 18:06children and all the other
- 18:08circumstantial stuff going around in the
- 18:10case you I just want to make sure there
- 18:12was no comments ever made by you
- 18:14regarding you know children or dislike
- 18:18of children or loved children either way
- 18:21- no I mean
- 18:35when you guys can just take whatever you
- 18:37so it is easier for me to just take
- 18:44everything and it is to the same without
- 18:46plus for the purposes of this case the
- 18:50less exposure you know we already have
- 18:55initially you drew concern from me when
- 18:59you told me DW did everything for Chris
- 19:01I've already told you that you
- 19:03understand why there's no question as to
- 19:06why that might cause concern so if
- 19:08there's anything else that ever comes up
- 19:09I have it and then we can just discuss
- 19:11gender stamina me
- 19:30she starts to kind of her marching on
- 19:33tonight so that was like weeks ago
- 19:49and she hasn't brought it up since
- 19:51really or like connected the thoughts or
- 19:53like said [ __ ] I mean you guys can look
- 19:55through all those texts
- 20:09and I don't know when that was that was
- 20:11definitely where things were going good
- 20:12so this is like weeks prior I'm just
- 20:15seeing I think the day is at the top of
- 20:18whenever we started texting that there
- 20:21looks this is we talked a lot autist so
- 20:26yeah so the reference everything to
- 20:32Sunday
- 20:40to the family conversation like that on
- 20:42there I believe on my phone I don't
- 20:44think there's like anything out and she
- 20:46even last night like still wasn't she
- 21:09[Music]
- 21:22anything on other people but you guys
- 21:26can just blow everything off that points
- 21:28as long as you're okay with that that's
- 21:30what that makes you're like in the air
- 21:32it's not just about making it easier
- 21:34it's just less so if there's any
- 21:37question I could told you before some
- 21:40like the two girls you just met did a
- 21:42lot energies in this case I've done a
- 21:44lot of work they may know things that I
- 21:45don't there's no way you can all know
- 21:47everything so they might go oh because
- 21:50somebody else was the one who told me
- 21:51about children in this message so I
- 21:54don't know literally why potential young
- 21:57I was seeming that they hope that is
- 22:01because I said his name I don't even
- 22:05think she's put two and two together
- 22:07because last night it was just like the
- 22:09way she was talking she wasn't like this
- 22:10is him this is it I don't know what's
- 22:14going on I just assumed
- 22:16take this guy look taking a dark over
- 22:18she's not even like processing
- 22:38we mean I can tell he has a lot to take
- 22:42care of in life what did you make
- 23:04you're even saying in here he's all
- 23:05about his kids yeah and she was like
- 23:10asking me somewhere in there
- 23:13I mean everything we had to say about
- 23:16him at that point it really caused it is
- 23:19like I think I made it clear that I
- 23:22wasn't like 100 percent sure this is
- 23:23like the man of my dreams I was and
- 23:26spend the rest of my life with him or
- 23:27anything but I was enjoying the time I
- 23:30was spending with him at that point
- 23:36you're referencing that he has two kids
- 23:39and you don't like that because you want
- 23:44to have that experience with some meals
- 23:46so I just thought I wouldn't sure if he
- 23:50was the one that I want to be with
- 23:52kateed already linked up everything okay
- 23:54like I was like it would be really nice
- 23:56to colleague have kids and have my own
- 24:02marriage and all that stuff that wasn't
- 24:06anything I could pay to him
- 24:21so she said you said he's handsome huh
- 24:24did you send her a picture and that's
- 24:27not attached here is that because what
- 24:30you did from what you deleted it when I
- 24:32deleted all my photos of his stuff
- 24:43he's kind of short I mean I talked to
- 24:50Colonel a that I wouldn't like talked to
- 24:52him that's like my girlie and what I'm
- 24:54saying I did it
- 24:55no I'm just area like he's in you
- 25:32my shoes okay so route it up again last
- 25:39night but she brought up wood okay but
- 25:43she didn't like connect the back she was
- 25:46like freaking out where she was really
- 25:50okay
- 25:51she wanted me to come see her on
- 25:53Saturday because it is so fun an
- 25:55expected kind of sort of he had
- 25:58Parkinson's so kind of but not you know
- 26:03I'm sending the very drawn out thing but
- 26:06she come on when I overtime of it I
- 26:07think she would and she just like she's
- 26:09like can you beat the week on Saturday I
- 26:11was like I'm gonna go to this to leave
- 26:13the house and I didn't tell her that but
- 26:15it was like I don't know I'll try and
- 26:17I'm gonna go but I'm not going to tell
- 26:20her and she we're not in Brooklyn tough
- 26:25just twisted I know he didn't even ask
- 26:29me if she was just like she's like I
- 26:32don't know what's going on she's like so
- 26:37you mentioned on your text before you
- 26:40come in that there was other information
- 26:43that you thought that was important
- 26:45again yeah I want to take some sidetrack
- 26:50always good swing to that and then I'm
- 26:53somewhere that just shimmer watching me
- 26:55and I will just say you guys talk a lot
- 26:57oh yeah she isn't like minded right here
- 27:00so first he sends me this and she
- 27:03doesn't ask me about him she's saying he
- 27:05looks like her eggs
- 27:07that's when she first brings them up
- 27:10she doesn't mention me at that point I
- 27:13don't even think she realizes it's the
- 27:16same guy with legitimately I think this
- 27:19girl is so wrapped up and all the stuff
- 27:21that she got going on right now that I
- 27:22don't think it's even processing I think
- 27:26you can just tell by the way that she
- 27:27like talked
- 27:34she's all upset because I asked him not
- 27:37talk to the media and a half and me the
- 27:39day that dad died and I'm sitting here
- 27:41trying to come for her is this your best
- 27:44friend yes this girl like my whole world
- 27:53but you're now talking about children a
- 27:56relationship with Chris or anything like
- 27:58that
- 27:58oh the only time I ever mentioned him
- 28:00was like that one day and I didn't
- 28:03remember that even had like said that to
- 28:05her what's her phone number
- 28:09sent to do four to five seven thirty
- 28:13two-year-old so I'm not going to call
- 28:15her but at some point we might want to
- 28:19talk to her just so you know I mean
- 28:21sooner or later she's going to connect
- 28:22the dots or you're going to tell her
- 28:23right there she's your best friend I'm
- 28:25not telling her if she figures it out
- 28:28she figures it out if we were going to
- 28:33talk to her I thought you know
- 28:34beforehand except her yeah even she
- 28:39apologized to me not because she was
- 28:40being crazy
- 28:44so tell me about the new info just
- 28:46numbers okay ah see right here come on
- 28:52she'd look man I know you were too
- 28:55Anadarko he did too I know he murdered
- 28:57his wife your kids I know he was a dog I
- 28:59know you're my best friend I know you
- 29:01have a good heart
- 29:01another you got that guy needs to go to
- 29:03jail and he will I know you don't want
- 29:05publicity neither what I I know that is
- 29:08the witness if you say anything it can
- 29:10cause a mistrial I know you don't want
- 29:12that neither do I folk the media I want
- 29:14my best friend here I have her [ __ ]
- 29:1770
- 29:18okay oh but she looks she goes she goes
- 29:22I don't even care be parted with him or
- 29:24more I know you had nothing to do with
- 29:26what happened and I don't care if your
- 29:27job is having an open investigation I'm
- 29:29not going to ask a single question but
- 29:31my top side and you're my best friend
- 29:33I said please stop talking about that
- 29:35and she said morning on house arrest and
- 29:37she just keeps saying my father died
- 29:39what the [ __ ] she was not okay last
- 29:41night and I was just trying to like
- 29:42understandably mitigate this and I was
- 29:46like trying to calm her down and I said
- 29:48Charlotte I'm trying so hard to be the
- 29:50best friend of candy right now so I
- 29:51don't want to talk to you about that
- 29:52case I didn't say decades it's a bad
- 29:54case like I wasn't even affiliated with
- 29:56it at all and you need to respect that
- 29:58here for you regarding your daddy you
- 30:00know this and then she's but what's
- 30:05raking out I'm free and I got it never
- 30:07had a conversation except for this past
- 30:09text messages about Chris and his
- 30:11children none of that that was it I mean
- 30:14cause he was something that I like super
- 30:16wanted everybody to know about and I
- 30:17shouldn't have even mentioned that when
- 30:19she brought what she hasn't like going
- 30:20on sexually with her fiance and it it
- 30:24happened but if that was the best
- 30:26friend's Anderson yeah see if she keeps
- 30:29trying to talk about it she says if
- 30:33you're not an investigation by the
- 30:34police
- 30:35I don't care why can't you attend your
- 30:36so-called best friend's father's debt it
- 30:38doesn't make sense to me and all I told
- 30:40it was stop
- 30:42she just like her dad yeah and she just
- 30:45is like freaking out and finally just
- 30:48sold her you know getting mad at me
- 30:49isn't gonna bring your dad back and that
- 30:52was when she chilled because well she
- 30:55come out on another rant but I had
- 30:57nothing to do with Chris and then she
- 31:00apologized to me this morning for being
- 31:01drunk and sad hungry after that guy what
- 31:05are the new information okay um see we
- 31:10got so much money you make sure before
- 31:18you leave you see hazel you get some
- 31:21help oh oh
- 31:26some he he was talking for a few weeks
- 31:30like he would have mentioned things on
- 31:32Friday okay so he went to North Carolina
- 31:36we came back to North Carolina I was
- 31:39informed sometime either when he was on
- 31:42the trip or when he was like getting
- 31:44back but in that area that they filed
- 31:48for divorce and that they were gonna put
- 31:53the house up and he for sale and he was
- 31:56like she is the one that called the
- 31:58realtor cuz he told me that he had spoke
- 32:01to her when he was in North Carolina
- 32:03about it and then the next day she was
- 32:05the one colder community shi Shan it and
- 32:09when you say the timeframe if you're
- 32:12back from North Carolina young woman's
- 32:14specific date at the first or second
- 32:17week of August
- 32:17yeah hundred told you guys
- 32:20laughs I think he last one to say 31st
- 32:25of July I do remember you saying that
- 32:28and I don't remember when he came home I
- 32:31really don't I don't know if it's like
- 32:35so this is a fun conversation or this is
- 32:37text conversation no um this happened
- 32:41over the phone and he told me that um
- 32:46that was when I said hey when you go to
- 32:51North Carolina I really think you should
- 32:53try to fix things with your wife
- 32:54and he kept asking more about us I was
- 32:57trying to take a step back and see if he
- 33:00would fix things before attempting to
- 33:03pursue things with me because I wanted
- 33:05to know that if all of these things he's
- 33:09saying like yes we're getting separated
- 33:11and yes you know all of these things
- 33:14that he's saying are happening are
- 33:15happening I wanted to know that it was
- 33:17like you were doing this like you said
- 33:22you were prior to me coming in your life
- 33:24and I had nothing to do with me you know
- 33:27and so for me it was like I just I'm
- 33:33and fix it I would have just like less a
- 33:35situation so tell me why him Shannon
- 33:39calling a realtor and him mentioning
- 33:42that they were going to be divorced well
- 33:44I think it's important um because so
- 33:48after that he was like she's only called
- 33:51the realtor and I remember I was like
- 33:52damn that was fast because I knew he
- 33:54told me like we were going to put the
- 33:56house up but they said he was like we
- 33:58didn't know how much offer for it and we
- 34:00were kind of trying to find somebody and
- 34:02it like so for the first few weeks that
- 34:04I hung out with him he kind of like
- 34:05dragged his feet on hey this is
- 34:07happening and then after North Carolina
- 34:10he's like yeah she wants to put the
- 34:12house up she's only called the realtor I
- 34:13was like kind of taken aback not
- 34:15necessarily at the speed of it given how
- 34:17long he said that they've been
- 34:19separating but the fact that she did it
- 34:21like the day after he supposedly sat
- 34:24down and had a conversation with her
- 34:26about hey do we fix this or do we not
- 34:28fix this relationship do you remember
- 34:31how many days she was back in Colorado
- 34:33before leaving do you know that because
- 34:36I don't remember when they got home
- 34:38great I don't he was trying to get your
- 34:41memory job there on that but so this was
- 34:43they get home
- 34:45he had told you North Carolina that they
- 34:47agree did and they're finalized their
- 34:50relationship they get home and she
- 34:53immediately wants to sell the house yes
- 34:55and then um so I mean I started thinking
- 35:00okay well I know in Colorado houses sell
- 35:03very fast here so I was like what's your
- 35:05plan you know I was like
- 35:08might want to be prepared and I remember
- 35:10that's when the whole concept came up of
- 35:14you probably need to start looking for a
- 35:17new place pretty quick and that was when
- 35:19he was kind of overwhelmed within I told
- 35:22moms like look like I just moved a few
- 35:24months ago and I was like to find a
- 35:28place that was comfortable for me it was
- 35:30like it took like a lot of research
- 35:35until that's what I offer to help also
- 35:37I'll help you and he seemed pretty
- 35:40gung-ho about it for like the first week
- 35:43and he seemed very grateful and I was
- 35:46putting work on it and I was like
- 35:48calling them and kind of let him know
- 35:50about places and there really wasn't
- 35:52that many options and Brighton I found
- 35:55one I actually texted it to myself
- 35:57before I texted it to him because I was
- 35:59going I still have that in my phone too
- 36:01um because I found it it was great it
- 36:05was like right at the beginning of my
- 36:06search and I was like I want to inundate
- 36:09so you said a week you think you work on
- 36:12that for a week no allowance I only
- 36:14probably spend like a few hours over a
- 36:16few days and just trying to like wine
- 36:18and I'm just trying to think about how
- 36:20many days should have been back when we
- 36:23were working on Jim saying hello
- 36:25so you said did you actually work on it
- 36:27for a week straight no it was just like
- 36:30a couple days after work I would just
- 36:32like spend a couple hours if I had time
- 36:34like at the end of my day or if I didn't
- 36:36go to gym and just sit down and I mean
- 36:39actually give you a date on one that I
- 36:41worked on
- 36:42- that one to myself this one I love
- 36:44this one when is this Saturday August
- 36:4711th that's today you guys ran out oh
- 36:51yeah
- 36:55- lazy dope yes - - lazy dogs all right
- 37:02well um yeah so the reason that this is
- 37:07important is because he like up to that
- 37:12point seemed like he was all about it
- 37:16you know and I was respecting him I
- 37:17wasn't like oh you need to get this you
- 37:19need to get that I was like what city
- 37:21you want to live in what side of town is
- 37:23she staying in you know how close do you
- 37:26want to be to work how close do you want
- 37:27to be to your kids I mean I asked him
- 37:30everything I just wanted him to have
- 37:32something that was accommodating for his
- 37:33whole family and he told me that she was
- 37:35probably gonna stay in Frederick area
- 37:37which never said for sure
- 37:39the first time I asked him he's like I
- 37:41don't know where she's going to go but
- 37:42she'll probably stay in this area and I
- 37:44was like Chris if you're going to get an
- 37:46apartment like you need to figure it out
- 37:48because blasphemy wants to be like an
- 37:51hour drive from your kids like you know
- 37:53you've got to be close and so um ends up
- 37:59asking him again like a couple days
- 38:01later and that was when he was like I
- 38:05think she's staying in the Frederick
- 38:06area I was like okay and that's when I
- 38:08was like starting to get details like
- 38:10where and if you guys find my text
- 38:12you'll see it when I'm asking like where
- 38:13do you want to live like how close you
- 38:16want to be to work those things like you
- 38:17know um did do you care would you go too
- 38:22late what are you thinking for you know
- 38:23talking about this produce yeah yeah
- 38:25yeah so the thing was that he was like
- 38:27super gung-ho about it and then
- 38:29Saturday that they um I remember being
- 38:34out I believe him in this conversation
- 38:36happen but I don't know where I don't
- 38:39know if we were like walking into the
- 38:40restaurant or walking to the car but I
- 38:43like vaguely remember being outside with
- 38:45him and I was like he had told me that
- 38:49he wanted to go look at some places to
- 38:53upcoming week and we were supposed to go
- 38:55do that on Wednesday I was like I asked
- 39:00him I was like what places do you want
- 39:03to go see I was like did you really like
- 39:05that place that I showed you because it
- 39:07was just like super convenient for
- 39:08everything I have a little playground
- 39:10and had a pool like it would have been
- 39:12awesome for his kids and it was cheap
- 39:14and and so it was like close to
- 39:18Frederick it was like it was close to
- 39:21the gym was close to work is close to me
- 39:23it was close to everything and it wasn't
- 39:25Brighton which is what he wanted and so
- 39:27um I was like did you want to go check
- 39:30that place out and he's like yeah I
- 39:31guess and he like didn't seem sure
- 39:34anymore and that was the part that I
- 39:36wanted to tell you I just figured I'd
- 39:37give you a little back story sure um so
- 39:40he's not sure about the particular
- 39:42partner or about me so he told me that
- 39:47he like he looked at it and he told me
- 39:50that he thought it was nice but it
- 39:51didn't anything like his interest with
- 39:53that Pete and I was like well did you
- 39:55find anything that you really wanted to
- 39:57look at and he told me yeah that he
- 40:01found a few but nothing that really
- 40:04really piqued his interest
- 40:06and I was like we might want to get
- 40:08started he's like whoa I found one and I
- 40:11asked him I said which one is it because
- 40:13I think I've looked at like every
- 40:14apartment and Brighton and maybe I'll
- 40:16remember it and he's like I don't know I
- 40:19don't remember the name of it and he
- 40:21kind of just like disregarded it and it
- 40:25was kind of strange to me because like
- 40:26the whole week prior he was like so
- 40:29excited that I was trying to help him
- 40:32because he's busy I'm busy so I was like
- 40:34you look all of it let's see if we can
- 40:37try to narrow it down to like four or
- 40:39five spots and then we'll find something
- 40:41that's good for you your girls you know
- 40:43and he seemed like very enthusiastic
- 40:46about it like during the week when the
- 40:50conversations first really started
- 40:52ramping up about legs you probably got
- 40:55to figure something out because that
- 40:57house is gonna sell really fast you know
- 40:59or at least be prepared and why do you
- 41:02think he was removed you're not
- 41:03interested in them on your Saturday
- 41:06night wherever you guys were I don't
- 41:08know I need some time
- 41:10think about these things I feel like
- 41:11they're all assumptions but at that
- 41:13point like maybe he already knew
- 41:15something that I didn't I don't know
- 41:18so it was just a complete mood change
- 41:20where he just didn't even seem that
- 41:23interested and I was like okay and I was
- 41:26like well we don't have to do that on
- 41:28Wednesday if you don't want to use I
- 41:30don't know why I need to get it done and
- 41:33I was like RA you know cuz no one forgot
- 41:37like force him to do it if he doesn't
- 41:39want to do it don't do it just say no
- 41:41you know and I was like and for me I was
- 41:43like I was just offering to help because
- 41:44it's like I know what a tedious task it
- 41:46is trying to find a new place belittle
- 41:51me ever knew that part where he was just
- 41:55like really unplugged on Saturday and
- 41:57then there was something else I went
- 41:59with that let me just thank them it was
- 42:02I didn't read all this I'd like to show
- 42:07that more down
- 42:18I can't believe a camera you know you'll
- 42:22type remember it's like much stuff for a
- 42:24lonely come to me all the time well some
- 42:28of this stuff is just things that you
- 42:29would never think about now that I'm
- 42:31like hindsight's 2020 and I'm like
- 42:34starting to go back there was something
- 42:36else that happened on Saturday that I
- 42:37had to do with all of this think about
- 42:40it for a minute let's see if my tech guy
- 42:42has is do that we can show her that will
- 42:45get your phone taken care of so again
- 42:48I'm going to have you sign this monetary
- 42:51consent it's the same thing that you
- 42:53signed in Thornton saying that you know
- 42:56I didn't threaten you intimidate you you
- 42:58have a right to say no I want you to
- 43:00read the document again we're going to
- 43:02take your phone we're going to use a
- 43:05program called celebrate if you go to
- 43:07your phone store that's what they use
- 43:09sometimes they used to do this because
- 43:11some of your stuff back and forth it's
- 43:13the same thing they're going to take
- 43:15that information and then an examiner
- 43:18who is skilled and looking at cell phone
- 43:20data this kind of look at it to try to
- 43:22recover the debated material that we're
- 43:24after activated material is what I'm
- 43:28happened I know it is I feel so bad that
- 43:30I did that I didn't even like
- 43:33not even what I was thinking about I was
- 43:35just so did not lie like any presence
- 43:40from him singer okay yes and they the
- 43:44whole songs just take it because I feel
- 43:47like we've been trying to really put all
- 43:49data on here yet for ETA okay so read
- 43:52that and make sure you sign it is you
- 43:56understand that we're going to take all
- 43:57the data once I have all that stuff I'll
- 43:59get your phone back to you okay I mean
- 44:02I'm not even need any wanted to see this
- 44:04okay I'm going to still get it back as
- 44:05soon as we're done okay
- 44:06all right so for next week sometime
- 44:09maybe okay or the week after or some
- 44:11like somewhere in have timeframe okay
- 44:12alright last minute I'll be back in sick
- 44:44[Music]
- 44:47however lowered by the way I got it
- 44:50number one in my head what I need to
- 44:53tell you okay okay so hi hi ma'am thank
- 44:57you nice to meet you hello um
- 44:59so this is my original song these guys
- 45:02would like to have have a lot of
- 45:04contacts on here that are not on the
- 45:06phone and I'm currently transferring to
- 45:08there are a lot of them I need some help
- 45:11right um it would be greatly appreciated
- 45:13if we could get the contacts from this
- 45:15phone to just go to this phone so that
- 45:17all the text messages and everything
- 45:18have like means and they wrote it to
- 45:21measure so that I can that's all I want
- 45:23to do and the horizon that switch this
- 45:26to this phone and all he did give me
- 45:28this little sheet of paper to follow
- 45:30which seems very simple and I'm usually
- 45:31pretty tech savvy except for the fact
- 45:34that I can't get the App Store to work
- 45:35on this ball and I can't get the Wi-Fi
- 45:37work so that is the dilemma in what if
- 45:43you would be so kind as to just think
- 45:45that I can give them we may even I am
- 45:48NOT doing on time I'm just really pretty
- 45:51tech savvy after working for oil shale
- 45:53um you're creating about
- 45:54they have technology which are like in
- 45:56the stick so everything wants to
- 45:59malfunction so or your contact on this
- 46:01phone sync to the cloud
- 46:03- I plug I don't know okay I mean some
- 46:08messages came over so I assume that
- 46:10everything is but I don't really know
- 46:14maybe a lot of time as I thought would
- 46:19you remember you just did you remember
- 46:22something beside that please
- 46:24oh right now he's an agent he works with
- 46:28me he knows ugh I didn't step out if you
- 46:32worked on me whatever you tell me he had
- 46:37a fire stick he kept talking about like
- 46:40you know a fire stick is ok you probably
- 46:42do this since your tech guys they're
- 46:44like oh you're like Amazon Turkey yeah
- 46:47okay so he didn't have it in his
- 46:49decision but I'm sangokushi is so Chris
- 46:52mentioned to me that on Saturday that
- 46:55same day um that
- 47:00oh because this kind of went hand in
- 47:03hand with the whole leg apartment talk
- 47:06because I was like all that apartment
- 47:11that he said he found that he was like I
- 47:13was like what's it called he's like I
- 47:16don't remember and I was like well how
- 47:17much is it he's like it's close to 1,100
- 47:20and I was really taken back by that
- 47:22because I pay more than that and I don't
- 47:25really have that much of a place and
- 47:27it's not a two-bedroom it's a 1 so that
- 47:30part kind of seemed odd to me but I'd
- 47:32seen a few things online that were kind
- 47:33of cheap and I was just like all right
- 47:35and he's like I'm just trying to cut
- 47:36costs and I was like that's cool like
- 47:40how else are you doing that and it was
- 47:41just out of curiosity and he's I've
- 47:44watched I would get rid of cable and I
- 47:46was like okay and I was kind of taken
- 47:48aback by that - because he loves sports
- 47:51dude like listen Brees football so I I
- 47:58was like okay and I was like that's a
- 48:01good constant you know to cut back on
- 48:03and he was like yeah I think I can watch
- 48:07still streamed sports via a fire stick
- 48:11I've heard a little things before I
- 48:13don't really know a lot about them
- 48:17but he was saying that he had a buddy
- 48:19working on it already for him he's ready
- 48:23he didn't say I didn't ask why didn't
- 48:26get that important that he had all that
- 48:29stuff I don't know I mean it made me boy
- 48:33Jesus that he was ready to move out that
- 48:36oh my god yeah like he was prepping it
- 48:40still felt like he was prepping I mean
- 48:42everything he did sounded like he was
- 48:44getting ready for everything to happen
- 48:45the other thing that I found really
- 48:47peculiar about the whole situation was
- 48:49the fact that he just kind of seems
- 48:50disconnected about the apartment thing
- 48:53on Saturday whereas in previous
- 48:56conversations he was one who brought it
- 48:59up and he was want to seem really
- 49:01excited about it when I offered to help
- 49:03him do some like legwork on trying to
- 49:06find him a spot for his girls right so I
- 49:13don't I don't know Fran was it was just
- 49:16weird sometimes it seemed like some of
- 49:19the things he said she was still really
- 49:20a lot of cases that made sense
- 49:24it still to this day makes sense and
- 49:26then other things that he said don't
- 49:29make sense at all to me anymore
- 49:31or like they change curve as you know a
- 49:35lot more now personally you know a lot
- 49:38more now about terrible things that may
- 49:41have happened to change the way you're
- 49:43thinking about what he said to so making
- 49:46you think differently about those kind
- 49:49of that verbage great
- 49:57definitely so
- 50:02we've talked a lot about a lot of
- 50:05different things
- 50:06I hope I'm helping you that you
- 50:08certainly are I hope so because I'm so I
- 50:11don't like having that stuff on the top
- 50:14of my head it's so hard in some days I
- 50:17can tell that my mind is trying to like
- 50:20lock it all out right now and I think
- 50:22it's almost like a subliminal like
- 50:24coping mechanism and I'm trying not to
- 50:26I'm trying to like think about it so
- 50:29that I can help you guys and I just
- 50:30that's why so why don't you get yourself
- 50:32a break for a day or two and just normal
- 50:37life stop thinking about this stuff for
- 50:39a day or two and then revisit it maybe
- 50:41that'll help you because you look like
- 50:43you're tired again I lost my job
- 50:47yesterday so that's where that comes
- 50:49from
- 50:49you can lost your job with ezio sciences
- 50:52places with it's already here that
- 50:57with things you mentioned with your
- 50:59skillset they should be easily employed
- 51:01on another locale I don't know I don't
- 51:06know I hope somebody hired nano people
- 51:10man just not hire well your name has
- 51:15been made in the papers yet not yet so
- 51:19remember you said that you're at some
- 51:21locations you can go out of state maybe
- 51:24I don't know if that's what you're
- 51:26thinking or whatever is going to work
- 51:29for you yeah I'm thinking about all of
- 51:34that it's just a matter of timing to
- 51:36transfigure went into it
- 51:37hesitant to do it all too soon tell me
- 51:42the name of the geosciences company
- 51:48I think I was just so bummed because
- 51:50they told me that they would keep me and
- 51:53then I called me back and let me go I
- 51:55was just like man so they essentially
- 52:00fire you for lack of a better term
- 52:04now yesterday yeah something let me go
- 52:08because they hired me to do a contract
- 52:11job and now that contract was over
- 52:14unfortunately Alberto actually offered a
- 52:17painting for a while Tenten says no it's
- 52:22just it would have been honest with me
- 52:24in the first place but
- 52:27so now you're out looking for a job -
- 52:33priority at this point but it won't get
- 52:35dull it so happens I need able to help
- 52:37me out with the police and so my truck
- 52:40can change my entire life and hopefully
- 52:44somebody somewhere will give me a decent
- 52:46job and give me a chance and not judge
- 52:49for all of this whole disaster
- 52:55you said hazel was going to was helping
- 52:57you out with senator of these stuff
- 52:59alright so hope yeah we're here I think
- 53:08just let the other way looking for me
- 53:10but he'll be fine
- 53:11Thank You possum so he must want this
- 53:15for something which is oh this is your
- 53:27this is the Verizon colos 213 from what
- 53:32date - looking back it's a month these
- 53:35are good I don't know
- 53:37it's a month so it's probably whatever
- 53:3930 days was kind of June July 14th I'd
- 53:43assume so long yesterday you'll see it
- 53:45when you open it up you'll see it but
- 53:48it's a month so I can I just take this
- 53:50real quick and move it off your thumb
- 53:52drive your thumb
- 53:54didn't do it everyone that's yours you
- 53:56don't need this back no I mean you can
- 54:06give it back
- 54:07yeah I'll just go down we'll just
- 54:09mention here real quick there so I think
- 54:11so someone it ends on the 13th and
- 54:14that's how I was saying when they Billy
- 54:16next month then I can give you the 14th
- 54:19and past that and I could have given you
- 54:22the 14th now though because they have a
- 54:24bill before it like this isn't a nice
- 54:27PDF cuz of the the on build one it's
- 54:31like in this janky Excel format and you
- 54:34could like manipulate the data you could
- 54:35I don't I want you when I'm here
- 54:38specifically PDF of your complete phone
- 54:40bill for your cell phone that ends on
- 54:42August 30
- 54:43everything after that you're gonna put
- 54:45this on my phone okay man my lease
- 54:49agreement is on there and I told hazel
- 54:51that it okay so I'm so sure that you're
- 54:54her because she needs that and then my
- 54:59there's also like a computer record of
- 55:03me talking to the Verizon Wireless
- 55:05people asking them if they can restore
- 55:07my text and what they had to say
- 55:10just bacon guys know that he did the due
- 55:12diligence to attempt to defend so those
- 55:15are the three things that are on there
- 55:18so there are the messages that synced up
- 55:21when you started her on this phone right
- 55:22so when she started this one like two
- 55:25years old okay but when she turned it on
- 55:28a bunch of deleted messages from Chris
- 55:30that were on now no synced up with that
- 55:32phone okay so that's the one I want to
- 55:34try it with okay so we're going to
- 55:35download this you know but this one
- 55:36comment on that yeah yeah okay this
- 55:39one's going to be coming with us as
- 55:40evidence download this rip so she had to
- 55:42find I need you to log in at Google this
- 55:45trying to figure how died off I mean you
- 55:53guys really can't do well there there
- 55:56there's another way we can do it so we
- 55:59can try
- 56:20I don't know I really don't I don't
- 56:24nothing that does before you walked in
- 56:26here and that's the only way you can
- 56:29download a hot journey
- 56:32yeah I mean I want to see another
- 56:34Sandberg guy so I don't know I I
- 56:37remember I having an Android phone like
- 56:39two years I guess I'll have to figure
- 56:41this out that sucks but it's okay well
- 56:44there's another there's another thing
- 56:45that we can try all right nope did you
- 56:50have text message so when I looked to my
- 56:53wife I think you got a couple more extra
- 56:56oh my god yeah those came in on my other
- 57:00phone this was like right when I
- 57:02transferred
- 57:07so I think your context should be
- 57:15connected the iCloud mount so shouldn't
- 57:20lose them
- 57:25and we can use Chinese art down the
- 57:28Machinery's to download the phones can
- 57:31also transfer I've never done that
- 57:34already in the shop okay I just don't
- 57:37look at these messages I was like oh my
- 57:40god like don't know don't know don't
- 57:43know don't know I mean again I'm sure I
- 57:45could figure out pretty quick better the
- 57:47Texas yeah the whole different program
- 57:51you would just say we're keeping this
- 57:57one downloading it and giving back
- 58:00yeah and like this one I think healty
- 58:02it's one number off of the nah man you
- 58:03better take everything get the work even
- 58:06this moment
- 58:11alright let me go see if I can transfer
- 58:14contacts potential producers I don't
- 58:18need it right now
- 58:20a little bit
- 1:03:57[Music]
- 1:04:20how are you doing I'm going to step on
- 1:04:42the step out you I have that now I have
- 1:04:45the lease on unit Faisal
- 1:04:47okay did he get your phone taking curve
- 1:04:51I took a little time is done I step out
- 1:04:55for a minute give you guys a few seconds
- 1:04:57all right if you remember anything else
- 1:05:00we'll talk before you leave all right
- 1:05:04hazel said she knew that you had been
- 1:05:07fired so
- 1:05:09you get some advice on that too
- 1:05:12potentially leaving here and starting
- 1:05:15learning new somewhere else yeah oh and
- 1:05:30a very good terminated contract
- 1:05:33I love a good sturdy but they offered
- 1:05:38they were concerned and they offered to
- 1:05:40pay for like a few weeks it was very
- 1:05:48generous and tap and cut it off I just
- 1:05:50think we don't want to build a
- 1:05:52contractor you're actually working I
- 1:05:55respect that I think how disappointing
- 1:06:01because they told me you know I inform
- 1:06:05them in situation and then they contact
- 1:06:09Annie like a day later in the show
- 1:06:11you're good don't worry about it and I
- 1:06:14can't
- 1:06:15laughter and pretty much let me go just
- 1:06:19beyond it I don't think you kidding
- 1:06:21another another job another appointment
- 1:06:24they would have had to uh and I kind of
- 1:06:27had a solution for that situation too
- 1:06:29but they didn't seem like they were all
- 1:06:31about it it is what it is I'm going to
- 1:06:36marching fun for my four months I don't
- 1:06:38open that wall as satin and so are they
- 1:06:43are they saying that your contract with
- 1:06:46them's also illuminated or that you just
- 1:06:49have to look in a circle anymore and
- 1:06:50they'll find you another position they
- 1:06:52told me originally but if I wasn't
- 1:06:55working in the dark oh if I'm not a
- 1:06:57place to put me and then they came back
- 1:06:59yesterday night and said since you're
- 1:07:02not caught we hired you for the contract
- 1:07:05with hanadarko and since your contract
- 1:07:07with them was terminated we're letting
- 1:07:09you go
- 1:07:09okay did you come person and achievement
- 1:07:13here I've spent all day trying to do so
- 1:07:19I think I might be helpful to talk to
- 1:07:21him and see what he has to say about it
- 1:07:23and see if there's any you know she'll
- 1:07:28probably ask you what you're conscious
- 1:07:29of that was and ask you for some more
- 1:07:31details and see if there's any way that
- 1:07:34legally he can help you out or if he can
- 1:07:37create some sort of mediation or
- 1:07:39something like that at the very least
- 1:07:41negotiate a positive referral to another
- 1:07:45agency or something I mean they told me
- 1:07:48hey give me that he seemed really taken
- 1:07:50back when I had them when I was like he
- 1:07:52leave me a positive refer on I did great
- 1:07:54words okay
- 1:07:55they're definitely known as being on her
- 1:07:57team for sure yeah do this okay so do I
- 1:08:06just recycle one more thing on my plate
- 1:08:10right now I'm just I don't know what to
- 1:08:13do
- 1:08:16well I think that right now what you
- 1:08:19need to worry about itself generally
- 1:08:21good supportive family and people that
- 1:08:24can help you get through for a few weeks
- 1:08:26while you're looking for work so I think
- 1:08:29right now we need to just concentrate on
- 1:08:31getting your visa situation worked out
- 1:08:33so that you have to worry about carrying
- 1:08:36two places and getting everything we're
- 1:08:40done with vision comps we can get
- 1:08:41started in therapy well yet and it
- 1:08:53doesn't mean businesses will necessarily
- 1:08:57the hiring agency listen so they have
- 1:08:59watched the news story
- 1:09:00no listen if they do I think you can
- 1:09:02just explain to them that you're doing
- 1:09:04everything you can to cooperate with law
- 1:09:06enforcement and do what you can to have
- 1:09:08it not impact your job and you know your
- 1:09:11work at your work in both an interpreter
- 1:09:14news and some super part set is a good
- 1:09:17testament what a good worker you are the
- 1:09:20throw this you can only work you kept
- 1:09:22doing your job up you were responsible
- 1:09:24towards your agency inform them about
- 1:09:27you did everything you needed to do I
- 1:09:33feel like trying to get by the next like
- 1:09:365 or 10 years
- 1:09:42I think that thinking that way is going
- 1:09:45to be a little self-defeating so let's
- 1:09:48try to be careful we can take care of
- 1:09:50and try to build a powerful use of just
- 1:09:52most positive prospects for the future
- 1:09:56so imagine not even know where to start
- 1:09:58like I have friends that can give me a
- 1:10:01referral but what I don't want to do is
- 1:10:03have my friends giving referral and then
- 1:10:05they see the news and then they are very
- 1:10:07taken back and I think some people would
- 1:10:11be kind of upset if I ask them for
- 1:10:12referrals prior to the news breaking in
- 1:10:17almost there
- 1:10:17waiting to liberate sleep try to
- 1:10:21approach people how do you try thinking
- 1:10:23about a new temporary agency or
- 1:10:25something new like Kelly group I mean
- 1:10:27you're going to pay well but something
- 1:10:29like that and there's probably well well
- 1:10:33below your skill level probably go back
- 1:10:37to the oil field
- 1:10:39so those people image and societal
- 1:10:42outcasts so in my work pretty lucky huh
- 1:10:46rehab when you worked in yeah sometimes
- 1:10:51mob it wouldn't be torture to go back to
- 1:10:53that
- 1:10:58result actually until on his skin
- 1:11:00results a little bit if to go higher
- 1:11:04sorry good job out there there's a woman
- 1:11:07yeah thank you
- 1:11:13well Chevy history to survive
- 1:11:17and they cook a long way
- 1:11:27so we are interested in the ice age of
- 1:11:30effect has given as cover your knees so
- 1:11:33I'll talk with your landlord and see
- 1:11:36where we can get started getting you out
- 1:11:39of that and then I have list of funding
- 1:11:43at Elizabeth referrals for you from
- 1:11:45therapist thank you very approve it they
- 1:11:48haven't yet but this addition by the end
- 1:11:50of the day or early tomorrow
- 1:11:52vegetable through procedure you know
- 1:11:55it's it's the government creating as a
- 1:11:58religion such as culture the procedure
- 1:12:02but I think it started in the meantime
- 1:12:04calling the therapists and just doing
- 1:12:07well interview for them you know that we
- 1:12:09talked about just making sure that
- 1:12:10somebody does you feel confident with
- 1:12:12and that you feel comfortable you and
- 1:12:14say anything to then I would also ask
- 1:12:19them but just as I know you have hurtin
- 1:12:22sweeping gonna do that
- 1:12:24this bothers you all the time that you
- 1:12:27could wake up until night and Alicia's
- 1:12:30you would also touch a service
- 1:12:32what kind of after-hours support you to
- 1:12:34get do they have the emergency line or
- 1:12:38somebody that you can talk to if it is
- 1:12:40four o'clock in the morning and you
- 1:12:41haven't been able to sleep all night
- 1:12:48and if you help make those phone calls
- 1:12:50bumpy Johnson can help too much for me
- 1:13:01nervous myself
- 1:13:03- and then you're feeling pretty
- 1:13:05overwhelmed and it just seems like it's
- 1:13:07giving piling up needed the mirror here
- 1:13:14for you back to you do the support and
- 1:13:18we came to my house what's the letter
- 1:13:23like old crinkly envelope and a piece of
- 1:13:27journal paper that will crumple
- 1:13:29handwritten and chicken-scratch to make
- 1:13:32sure you should call me it's like why
- 1:13:36would I do that
- 1:13:37in the first place but even I like the
- 1:13:40lack of professionalism that my family
- 1:13:43is seeing from these news reporters
- 1:13:45absolutely ridiculous initiative Raynham
- 1:13:49yeah I mean now I've got your number yet
- 1:13:52this program found it well that's good
- 1:13:54and you're not at your home and your
- 1:13:56dad's pretty good about saying no and
- 1:13:58walking away another contact and
- 1:14:02everybody looks for money people reach
- 1:14:04out to me immediate called me today and
- 1:14:09evil all I have to say is that did them
- 1:14:12anything about it they don't have any
- 1:14:13comment don't fall yes I know I love you
- 1:14:16yeah everweb comment or you don't know I
- 1:14:19would like you all to talk to them like
- 1:14:21you know let's call back your home
- 1:14:24anything love and support I don't send
- 1:14:27emails
- 1:14:30but I had to do it with a lot of people
- 1:14:33and it wasn't something I wanted to do I
- 1:14:35was trying to avoid that situation but
- 1:14:37I've just been like inundated with phone
- 1:14:39calls and texts about it so I was like
- 1:14:40all right talk to my dad and I was like
- 1:14:44do we do damage control on the rest of
- 1:14:46these people so that they were prepared
- 1:14:47or not minutes is like yeah we'll do it
- 1:14:50so I just called like my closest friends
- 1:14:54I didn't say anything about the case
- 1:14:56that I was a witness I just okay man I
- 1:14:59need you news for me like me answer
- 1:15:02you're asking questions on the comment
- 1:15:04please take all the pictures of us
- 1:15:07office ocean I love you and I'm saved
- 1:15:11and I didn't bring any logs
- 1:15:13oh that's cool cuz I started out like
- 1:15:18okay you just help me please oh yeah so
- 1:15:23far what we talked about that how you
- 1:15:26believe that your friends and your
- 1:15:27family whether it's for a while be
- 1:15:30supportive not doing anything just
- 1:15:32knowing that you needed their dilemma
- 1:15:33and support I mean it's been four days
- 1:15:35that they were searching for me and they
- 1:15:38had me come here they will eventually
- 1:15:41but I need four days it's not a bad
- 1:15:44start I think you're right and ever
- 1:15:47thought so much fun and you do have a
- 1:15:49plan David of the plan to just say no
- 1:15:52and hang up doing it to the door
- 1:15:54to make the phone you'll have caller ID
- 1:15:58soon enough that your family or your
- 1:15:59friends voicemail that you can they
- 1:16:03commit a message you just said what they
- 1:16:05want to fit family different video
- 1:16:08should just ignore you don't have any
- 1:16:10obligation to talk to any of them right
- 1:16:14it's pretty much
- 1:16:18[Music]
- 1:16:21type 1 task of time every day
- 1:16:247l they got my fault don't forget what
- 1:16:31the good Oh help
- 1:16:34I'm just trying to do anything I can do
- 1:16:36at this point like I don't even know
- 1:16:38what to do anymore
- 1:16:39I really wanted to start taking care of
- 1:16:41myself and I everybody else and so like
- 1:16:45it's just not open you can tell you to
- 1:16:48do right now to care of yourself
- 1:16:51this woman doing this you have to take
- 1:16:53care of it now you know that your
- 1:16:55friends let your family to talk to you
- 1:16:57let them offer you support
- 1:17:02you're doing everything that we've asked
- 1:17:04of you and you just need to know to cure
- 1:17:08yourself and get yourself to this if
- 1:17:14that your family support you now that
- 1:17:16your friends support you
- 1:17:17you don't have to take care of them
- 1:17:20you've definitely need to do for them
- 1:17:22you've told them I'm in the situation
- 1:17:24which I just need you to support me
- 1:17:26unconditionally for me and that's also
- 1:17:30taking care of them you need to do right
- 1:17:32now they'll be plenty times of ours July
- 1:17:34to take care of people right now you
- 1:17:36just need people to take care of you
- 1:17:48I don't know I met you before but I'm
- 1:17:50asking but you're still feeling like
- 1:17:56you're not thinking how about suicide or
- 1:17:58hurting yourself
- 1:18:02okay good
- 1:18:04any problem you let us know if you don't
- 1:18:07empty that when I touched you guys know
- 1:18:09about everything I'm sure you know okay
- 1:18:12so you will okay we wouldn't be here to
- 1:18:20help you we don't want this to turn into
- 1:18:22another tragedy for you
- 1:18:30I didn't know what time you're attending
- 1:18:31today and I have another appointment
- 1:18:33just coming in so I'm going to it agent
- 1:18:37go back to that - okay so the gyms in
- 1:18:39here all by yourself it's not a pleasant
- 1:18:42way to be hanging out no they have my
- 1:18:47phone since Paul Sweeney and I'll just
- 1:18:49sit here actually if I have to Go's my
- 1:18:53guts great we're trying to get your
- 1:18:55phones to work but you don't remember
- 1:18:57your Google account I should be honest
- 1:18:59with you it's like programmed in the way
- 1:19:01my the two places I use it all the time
- 1:19:04and so I don't have to work so the only
- 1:19:08way to transfer your contacts from that
- 1:19:10phone from your iPhone to that moments
- 1:19:12with your Google account I mean if I
- 1:19:14need to I know it we're we're going to
- 1:19:16print your we downloaded them so we have
- 1:19:20a file available we can print for you
- 1:19:22kids every night but we can't we can't
- 1:19:25come because you're so your phone is
- 1:19:29essentially won't be able to download
- 1:19:31the apps or anything like that without
- 1:19:33your Google account okay so but you do
- 1:19:35know it and do it on my Google account
- 1:19:38yeah no I did but you know you do have
- 1:19:43it somewhere else I am sure I don't like
- 1:19:45reset it and figure so what else just
- 1:19:47make sure you have a phone that's going
- 1:19:49to be usable
- 1:19:49yeah I mean I
- 1:19:51and I'll go to all the disappointment so
- 1:19:55he heard out of the messages that
- 1:20:01uploading it when you redid your phone
- 1:20:05so does take a good description picture
- 1:20:07yeah there's not much on that yeah an
- 1:20:10attorney should take just a few minutes
- 1:20:12and we're done
- 1:20:13they're all like they're not even on the
- 1:20:15right date so it's really weird how
- 1:20:17they're time-stamped like there's one on
- 1:20:20there on 13th and I'm like I'm pretty
- 1:20:22sure that that was conversation done
- 1:20:24universe yeah but it was like not that
- 1:20:27same day like looking towards him
- 1:20:31straight
- 1:20:3312 I don't it's not a good spot they're
- 1:20:38not in the right spot maybe they all
- 1:20:43look at the phone see well without order
- 1:20:46like unless I'm confused but I'm pretty
- 1:20:48sure the last text on there between me
- 1:20:51and him was actually probably somewhere
- 1:20:53in the middle of the Texas so when you
- 1:20:57say how to really like like it's saying
- 1:21:00oh hey this happened unlike Tuesday but
- 1:21:03really I'm like I'm pretty sure that
- 1:21:04that happened at a different point okay
- 1:21:06all right so only that we've been
- 1:21:09critical we'll talk about it I need to
- 1:21:12look at the text first so before right
- 1:21:14now of course you're probably going to
- 1:21:19do yeah sure that you're just once you
- 1:21:21have your name is coming in thank you
- 1:21:24for your time and I'll send you those
- 1:21:28therapist and get started in giving them
- 1:21:32a call and see who you think is going to
- 1:21:34be
- 1:21:34for you so history's Navarrete radius of
- 1:21:36the mind pecan cop says yes you can get
- 1:21:39started right away
- 1:21:40you're too can be any help make those
- 1:21:42calls you start making a thermal and she
- 1:21:45just can't do it on her own
- 1:21:47just tell me about German I can just
- 1:21:49call with you and be there before you
- 1:21:52misspelt okay okay and if you want to
- 1:21:56try to use the garden city on your car I
- 1:21:59will definitely call it as on my
- 1:22:02priority list at this point I just know
- 1:22:07I understand that I understand and I'm
- 1:22:10sure you'll say it depend on your
- 1:22:11contract set so if you have your
- 1:22:14contract with them where your dad you
- 1:22:16get to it was probably your house if you
- 1:22:18haven't rejected me into something to
- 1:22:21get for you to send to Hannah out of
- 1:22:22your example I have okay quick I have to
- 1:22:28go back
- 1:22:31okay thank you so much hazel and call me
- 1:22:35anytime okay all right I'm going to see
- 1:22:39where he's at
- 1:22:41what anything else over here
- 1:22:43that you can think of one address or you
- 1:22:47remember sometimes I feel like I
- 1:22:50remember stuff but it's like say and I'm
- 1:22:54like I don't know
- 1:22:55I'm not everything is important
- 1:22:57obviously I know I tried to get you to
- 1:23:01remember as much as I could because a
- 1:23:03lot of the stuff that you have told me
- 1:23:05over the last couple conversations is is
- 1:23:08relative and it's important and I
- 1:23:10appreciate you going back and looking at
- 1:23:12calendars and doing all that stuff but
- 1:23:15stop thinking about this for a while I
- 1:23:17think we've got to everything I don't
- 1:23:21remember anymore we've had a lot of
- 1:23:24conversations about this case so just
- 1:23:26give yourself a break go have dinner
- 1:23:30with one of your friends and have a
- 1:23:34nobody knows who you are not yet so even
- 1:23:37better to make that happen
- 1:23:39whoever you trust in like Charlotte or
- 1:23:42whoever your other friends over go have
- 1:23:46a normal night and not set at your house
- 1:23:48and dwell on this might do wonders okay
- 1:23:53and they're going to post anything if
- 1:23:55they don't find out anything because I'm
- 1:23:57just surprised about what I don't mean I
- 1:24:01mean it's been four day you know that
- 1:24:05they are dying to find out where you are
- 1:24:07I know they haven't even reached my
- 1:24:09inner circle yet that's been four days
- 1:24:11your difference
- 1:24:13yes ideal so being thankful for that and
- 1:24:17we've had this conversation is it you
- 1:24:21know you said you think you're not going
- 1:24:22some also go I don't know what I'm going
- 1:24:25to do that can you guys tell me what the
- 1:24:26name change like these I'm serious
- 1:24:28please so I can what do you think for
- 1:24:31you is that's a legal process it's it's
- 1:24:35really not that difficult first just
- 1:24:39take a work that needs to be filled out
- 1:24:41I think your best bet would just be call
- 1:24:46maybe asking attorney to help you with
- 1:24:48that or seek advice from I don't know
- 1:24:52who you call honestly but people change
- 1:24:56your name all the time when they get
- 1:24:57married so it's probably the County
- 1:25:00Clerk but it's going to hopefully would
- 1:25:03have to be at a state level to make any
- 1:25:05change but I don't know specifically how
- 1:25:07to do that I don't
- 1:25:09there's I'd like to come public cuz I
- 1:25:11would defeat the purpose
- 1:25:12I don't know I know it can be done I
- 1:25:16just don't know how to do it and I
- 1:25:18wouldn't even know you reach out I mean
- 1:25:19I could find out and let you know but I
- 1:25:22don't want to do it you know like the
- 1:25:25witness protection thing is very very
- 1:25:27rare I'm not expecting that I yeah he's
- 1:25:30not going anywhere to hurt you through
- 1:25:33all those things so well I'm I expecting
- 1:25:36that I just I don't even know like
- 1:25:38sometimes I'm like I just want to do it
- 1:25:40now and I'm like why because it but you
- 1:25:43don't know to say like it would defeat
- 1:25:44the purpose you know a part of me I just
- 1:25:47I keep getting really scared that it's
- 1:25:49going to be really hard to find good
- 1:25:50employment like a really long time like
- 1:25:52years I feel like people like going on
- 1:25:56you go to another state this is not
- 1:25:59headlines
- 1:26:01yeah I mean I yeah I do
- 1:26:06and if I do a background on you you're a
- 1:26:10good employee it doesn't come up at your
- 1:26:13dated Chris Watts and you're involved in
- 1:26:15this case it doesn't work that way so I
- 1:26:18wouldn't
- 1:26:20hey I don't feel like this place one of
- 1:26:25those things that if it goes to court
- 1:26:26gonna be late
- 1:26:29well I mean it's national right now but
- 1:26:32it's not you know it's not the theater
- 1:26:37event that Miniver or seven years ago
- 1:26:40right did everybody in the world know
- 1:26:42about it's not that so I certainly for
- 1:26:47you you're under the microscope in the
- 1:26:48view you're for me and nothing can
- 1:26:51anybody say can change that for you so I
- 1:26:54get it but I don't I think you need to
- 1:26:58just step back for a minute take a
- 1:27:01breath figure out what you're going to
- 1:27:03do obviously you have some serious very
- 1:27:06serious decisions to make over the next
- 1:27:08you know
- 1:27:10couple months trying to find out how to
- 1:27:13do all this without spending all my
- 1:27:15things save up for house and I'm just
- 1:27:18like damn it
- 1:27:19but least you have savings there fall
- 1:27:21back on through a lot of people can say
- 1:27:23that yeah that is true
- 1:27:25well since I fired me I'll try again for
- 1:27:28a little while talking like get my mind
- 1:27:30right go to therapy and then go back to
- 1:27:33work at that point because I am NOT
- 1:27:35ready Oh
- 1:27:37going back to work might be a good thing
- 1:27:39for you though that you didn't think
- 1:27:40about this every day I agree with that
- 1:27:43finding a job is the big task and all
- 1:27:46that so I sold first leg why don't you
- 1:27:47jump to some of your friends about a job
- 1:27:50it's like well they don't know now they
- 1:27:55don't know but what I don't want to
- 1:27:56suddenly to give me a reference and then
- 1:27:58they find out what's going on I think
- 1:27:59that's really disrespectful I think you
- 1:28:03reach out specifically to an employer I
- 1:28:05person other I don't know anything about
- 1:28:09the auto industry but other companies
- 1:28:12like you look for
- 1:28:15I have this skill and I cannot reach nap
- 1:28:22to small employer so I'm really good
- 1:28:24employee those people everybody when I
- 1:28:26leave is pretty disappointed this is the
- 1:28:28first time I've ever been terminated
- 1:28:29from a job sometimes I can be tough to
- 1:28:34be number two it's hard this was like
- 1:28:36the dream job I feel awful about all
- 1:28:39this like I wanted that for so long
- 1:28:41you know the one feel those so tired of
- 1:28:43living on where it's such a rough life I
- 1:28:46just want to be in the office and
- 1:28:48working environment to come in I finally
- 1:28:51got it well do you have that skill set
- 1:28:54now you'll see um are you guys am I in
- 1:29:05trouble cuz I believe it's just sex
- 1:29:07you're not in trouble I didn't know
- 1:29:09what's going on at that point so I know
- 1:29:13you sort of does that cause question of
- 1:29:16course of course is that there is but is
- 1:29:19it criminal no is there a concern that
- 1:29:22you're hiding something potentially
- 1:29:24that's why I want or I would be asking
- 1:29:27for I know and you finally get up you've
- 1:29:29been upfront with me about everything I
- 1:29:32don't have I don't have a concern that
- 1:29:35you know you've ever told Chris I don't
- 1:29:38want you you know proto you're white or
- 1:29:41get rid of your kids or I don't want to
- 1:29:43date you if you have kids none of those
- 1:29:45things ever came on your mind we've
- 1:29:47talked about that so but until those
- 1:29:51text messages
- 1:29:52are to be are there you know and all
- 1:29:56that it's just speculation but it's kind
- 1:30:00of like hey why did you do that and I
- 1:30:02get your excuse I understand what you're
- 1:30:04saying that on a Tuesday he really
- 1:30:07realized who this man was
- 1:30:08we have done anyone to be part of your
- 1:30:10life anymore so you get rid of it I'm
- 1:30:12thinking what I've seen in my father it
- 1:30:13was like freaking me out because I
- 1:30:14remember I'd like deleted them and then
- 1:30:17he sent me another text and then I
- 1:30:20deleted that one too right
- 1:30:22sounds like I don't want to deal with
- 1:30:25this by the way when you look into those
- 1:30:26texts look for his is he falling for
- 1:30:29that one conversation we had where he
- 1:30:30screenshot would be what he did on
- 1:30:32Monday you're mad yeah and you said that
- 1:30:37Susanna dauber uh-huh and that should be
- 1:30:39the only link recent like there's
- 1:30:41probably stuff if you guys are able to
- 1:30:43pull it from way way back that we talk
- 1:30:45but saying the thing we talked about was
- 1:30:48him proving that he went to the oil
- 1:30:50field that he went to work that he would
- 1:30:52work that morning yeah whatever side he
- 1:30:54was supposed to go down and check on the
- 1:30:56Sun that'll be in movies okay okay
- 1:30:59alright um and then I don't know I
- 1:31:02allowed to like address my friends would
- 1:31:04tell them please no comment to the media
- 1:31:06I mean I haven't been telling even
- 1:31:07anything else I would not talk with
- 1:31:10anybody about any of this case yes no I
- 1:31:14mean I know you talking you need to talk
- 1:31:16to a therapist needs are you sure
- 1:31:18talking to your dad some extent
- 1:31:20new collage person 9 he's lying here for
- 1:31:23this I don't tell him about this I told
- 1:31:25him coming down here but he doesn't need
- 1:31:27to know anymore he's urine until you
- 1:31:31made some decisions that caught you in a
- 1:31:33bad situation but there's nothing wrong
- 1:31:36with you talking somebody I just
- 1:31:37wouldn't go into details know I'm
- 1:31:40attacking my witness first certainly
- 1:31:43your best friend if I was you I read
- 1:31:48confiding in my best friend like hey
- 1:31:49this is what's happening in my life and
- 1:31:51I need help
- 1:31:52is there anything wrong with that no I
- 1:31:55mean that's about as far as confining
- 1:31:57his gone was me telling her about some
- 1:31:59guy that I was hanging out with but that
- 1:32:01was like way before any of this yeah you
- 1:32:04need support right now
- 1:32:06- so you do there is no run you're not
- 1:32:10in trouble there's no charge or simply
- 1:32:13don't want to like get in trouble for
- 1:32:15like talking to like my dad or like I
- 1:32:20want a friend for help
- 1:32:21one morning like Roland
- 1:32:23no there's nothing to get in trouble for
- 1:32:25okay I know that work that's why I see
- 1:32:28this is one more thing I don't know I
- 1:32:31plate divided red only God or not you're
- 1:32:33not in trouble
- 1:32:35and talking to your friends and family
- 1:32:37about what's going on is a very
- 1:32:39charitable
- 1:32:39okay I want to talk to my friends I
- 1:32:43don't want anybody to know I mean
- 1:32:45they're going to find out what I figured
- 1:32:46the reason that I think I'm staking out
- 1:32:51me as long as I have been because my
- 1:32:57circles really awesome hey they have
- 1:33:01more than just because you're not on
- 1:33:05social media Apple but I mean I
- 1:33:07eliminated all of that right leg even
- 1:33:09have the ability to like go through I'm
- 1:33:11going to found everybody I knew that had
- 1:33:12any public posts and it was just like
- 1:33:14this needs to be clear right so you've
- 1:33:18made it very difficult to them to find
- 1:33:20you so I think eventually that at some
- 1:33:23point they are going to find some sugar
- 1:33:24of course in there that's inodes oh yeah
- 1:33:26I think that would be very tricky
- 1:33:28I don't know you haven't even told me
- 1:33:30where you're saying so now man I don't
- 1:33:32know how it's connected to you or your
- 1:33:34family so I mean if it's in your
- 1:33:36family's name certainly it wouldn't be
- 1:33:38that hard to figure that so if that you
- 1:33:44know there's ways to find out what
- 1:33:46people are saying but certain limited
- 1:33:48must be somebody knows about this place
- 1:33:50to talk so nobody all right check on
- 1:33:58this yeah me check on this one oh yeah
- 1:34:00that's right I was like I'm ready to go
- 1:34:02I know you're ready to go so keep
- 1:34:04written your contacts the document
- 1:36:05see there's those and he's still messing
- 1:36:10with your phone give me a few minutes
- 1:36:12okay yeah back in a minute
- 1:36:14did you sign it you want a copy of that
- 1:37:34[Music]
- 1:41:46all right I'm sure you'd be on September
- 1:41:5417 and that's something I knew given the
- 1:41:58fact that okay so just that's a good
- 1:42:04question they're asking us questions
- 1:42:05answering truthfully yeah I wouldn't I
- 1:42:10wouldn't avoid it you ever going to her
- 1:42:14dude I was supposed to go won something
- 1:42:16easy but I just wanted to like settle
- 1:42:19check it now so but it has no bearing on
- 1:42:21it along this look so you're right
- 1:42:24did you still coming at your phone
- 1:42:25enamel minute the restroom yeah
- 1:42:29[Music]
- 1:47:00have a bad day
- 1:47:01okay you show me the messages that
- 1:47:04downloaded I'm going to take photographs
- 1:47:07of them because device Hitler is using
- 1:47:09doesn't want to work
- 1:47:11oh the messages that came from Chris he
- 1:47:18said showed up on the phone adorable
- 1:47:23honking me but I'm the number okay I
- 1:47:25didn't even give me that number we can
- 1:47:27check that I can probably get it real
- 1:47:31quick show me the ones that you can came
- 1:47:34from those on so I am going to take
- 1:47:43photographs of these and move up those
- 1:47:45downloading it with the seven Walter
- 1:47:49there's no way to do that now you can
- 1:47:50show me here this isn't hooked up to
- 1:47:53Wi-Fi or anything is it
- 1:47:55oh I see it will come in clear or you
- 1:47:59can watch me do this I'm saying you well
- 1:48:00I assume any one item in the tech city
- 1:48:02right now yeah or you can email to me
- 1:48:05awesome cheering now all we're here okay
- 1:48:07that's fine okay you know
- 1:48:13like my first time talking Boyle
- 1:48:18truthful play games it just makes me so
- 1:48:23sad for me this tank like so are these
- 1:48:26other ones that you delete it I did
- 1:48:30everything that he sent me the teachers
- 1:48:33were cold in Missouri from those dates
- 1:48:36so like these 627 629 and these are old
- 1:48:42and they seem to be seeing them we're
- 1:48:47missing the second and third and then
- 1:48:50there's four four okay so there's a lot
- 1:48:53of messages yeah then there's no 5th 6th
- 1:48:577th or 8th and then there's the mind but
- 1:48:59it's only one Tech and then the 17th one
- 1:49:02text and you know steps coming to all
- 1:49:04the time I bet you guys have hundreds of
- 1:49:07message already nature cover but yes so
- 1:49:09if you see 11 doesn't want from the
- 1:49:12electrical distribution and then the
- 1:49:16only text I think might be at or light
- 1:49:18is the one at the very end
- 1:49:22I just wish there were more complete and
- 1:49:28I don't understand why they're coming in
- 1:49:29in bits and pieces like what's causing
- 1:49:33that
- 1:49:33so the 10th oh you went to you went to
- 1:49:35the Rockies game yeah ok I see him that
- 1:49:39day
- 1:50:04okay so this one's on Sunday night yeah
- 1:50:10that's more of 7:00 p.m.
- 1:50:12what's he talking about counting fruit
- 1:50:13is that you were him that's him talking
- 1:50:16so he was talking about that birthday
- 1:50:19for you whoever I was hosting and I
- 1:50:22don't remember like he told me the name
- 1:50:23one German I forgot I don't even
- 1:50:26remember to be honest with you like the
- 1:50:27only names that I remember very well as
- 1:50:30Nick and Mark doesn't [ __ ] I could be
- 1:50:33like oh yeah like I could tell you like
- 1:50:34maybe if those are no strange people
- 1:50:36yeah um we went to the birthday party
- 1:50:40and he had all the travelers Garba
- 1:50:43queues and then he was saying oh he did
- 1:50:45barbecue so he were saying him through
- 1:50:49and asparagus yeah didn't do a smoked
- 1:50:52barbecue matter time he did hot dog food
- 1:50:54Thank You boy to that he was like shiny
- 1:50:55hell she wasn't the fun name this is the
- 1:50:58line I don't know if this is an order
- 1:50:59I'm not sure exactly what this is
- 1:51:02referring to or I think this one at the
- 1:51:04bottom this oh my god that's absolutely
- 1:51:07did ridiculously would freak out that do
- 1:51:10you remember what I told you like I'm a
- 1:51:12lowest I'm like incorporate his kids and
- 1:51:14stuff I mean even if it wasn't like
- 1:51:16directly like me and him but just like
- 1:51:18girls always think I'm cute stuff when I
- 1:51:20see stuff like oh my god a little girls
- 1:51:22look like that I would show him and I
- 1:51:24found this box of Lucky Charms that
- 1:51:30unicorn Lucky Charms and I thought they
- 1:51:32were really cute and I texted it to him
- 1:51:35and I was like your little girl know
- 1:51:37about these because they were awesome
- 1:51:39and I would like little stuff like that
- 1:51:40she says I got that for 13 because I
- 1:51:45don't think they talked in that one day
- 1:51:46was a 13 asking around it wasn't my
- 1:51:49Mexican look I think it will double that
- 1:51:53make these our in order
- 1:51:54monday was the day I think that I sent
- 1:51:55that text yes that's Monday morning at
- 1:51:582:44 p.m. so that's an afternoon Monday
- 1:52:02there's some great that was at work my
- 1:52:04exit so no food
- 1:52:07okay so that it is the core so it isn't
- 1:52:09harder man this makes animal because
- 1:52:12that's Sunday right but some day okay so
- 1:52:14they're so they're in order or just
- 1:52:16missing so it's Easton he's basically
- 1:52:19saying he's still at that barbecue
- 1:52:22barbecue and that okay perfect okay so
- 1:52:26so no soul of this one is in the right
- 1:52:28place
- 1:52:29I was thinking 813 was Tuesday and I'm
- 1:52:31like I don't think you know I have very
- 1:52:32pleasant conversation on Tuesday you
- 1:52:34want to screenshot all boys to me yeah I
- 1:52:39turned this off but
- 1:52:46oh no work okay so that takes us down to
- 1:52:50629 so the pilots scroll up to 6:30 into
- 1:52:57top interesting
- 1:53:00okay not like this
- 1:53:21so what you're doing now let me ask you
- 1:53:24about the text with you in Charlotte you
- 1:53:29talked about children and he's got his
- 1:53:33own kids and that makes you kind of
- 1:53:35uncomfortable because you'd like to have
- 1:53:37your own family it put that in context
- 1:53:40for me does that is that a fair
- 1:53:42statement the way I'm saying okay that's
- 1:53:49what I want to know did you ever say
- 1:53:50anything to him about right never
- 1:53:54anything about his kids being a problem
- 1:53:57anything about his wife being a proud
- 1:53:59member never I always try to be self
- 1:54:02inclusive with them anyone hurt with her
- 1:54:04when I'm talking or wasn't that his kids
- 1:54:08were an issue it was just this man
- 1:54:10already have the life should I go build
- 1:54:16my own you know was somebody who hasn't
- 1:54:18done that yet and then she was the one
- 1:54:20that was saying you know I was engaged
- 1:54:24once and it didn't work and now I'm
- 1:54:26engaged again and she's trying to tell
- 1:54:28me like it doesn't matter like I'm on my
- 1:54:30second time of going through this and
- 1:54:34she's like I love this man very very
- 1:54:37much and she was saying like he's not
- 1:54:39going to love you less because he's
- 1:54:42already
- 1:54:45bicha marriage once and then separated
- 1:54:47and already had kids like she thought
- 1:54:49those reference were never made to
- 1:54:51handle that were never or Charlotte
- 1:54:55that's sweetie were talking about he yes
- 1:54:57did you want I'm tell me Charlotte to
- 1:54:59London okay if we're talking about one
- 1:55:04of your friends that might have been a
- 1:55:06lesbian at some point you never said
- 1:55:13that about any of your friends that I
- 1:55:16inquired about I think on the first day
- 1:55:20we thought with your dad there we had I
- 1:55:23asked enquired about Charlotte can you
- 1:55:27ever shut Allah and eHarmony on taxes
- 1:55:30I'm going to be talking about and I
- 1:55:32couldn't find it so I was wondering if
- 1:55:34maybe somebody like reference both those
- 1:55:37two but I together okay I'm wondering if
- 1:55:40that's what I came from so Charlotte is
- 1:55:42your friends as your closest friend you
- 1:55:45have to have this conversation but it
- 1:55:46never went anywhere besides her in you
- 1:55:48you never never mentioned it to Chris
- 1:55:51you never said anything about your kids
- 1:55:53or his kids pardon me
- 1:55:56damaging your guys relationship nothing
- 1:56:01like that
- 1:56:01never and I mean it even in that it
- 1:56:03wasn't like I never said his kids were
- 1:56:06problems just like he already has life I
- 1:56:08don't know
- 1:56:09rad so in light of what's occurred
- 1:56:12though when I'm trying to make sure is
- 1:56:15that there was no
- 1:56:16a conversation that you guys had that he
- 1:56:18might have thought that you were saying
- 1:56:24I can't be with you if you have kids I
- 1:56:26would I wouldn't be with him if I could
- 1:56:31okay so I'm just making 100% sure that
- 1:56:34those I promise you right why I really
- 1:56:37want you to spoil these texts because
- 1:56:38all of that I've been telling you well
- 1:56:40night and I hope we I haven't been very
- 1:56:44lucky with your phone [ __ ] and nothing
- 1:56:47bit of pain no that was kind of
- 1:57:00something between her and I wasn't even
- 1:57:02really the kids that like hey aren't
- 1:57:04even married before I was like I don't
- 1:57:07know if I like him in a long-term
- 1:57:08relationship with this guy that's
- 1:57:10something he would eventually walk
- 1:57:11that's something like I would eventually
- 1:57:13want so your concern was more about his
- 1:57:18prior marriage his children I guess I
- 1:57:23wasn't honestly I wasn't really that
- 1:57:25worried about him at the time like if
- 1:57:27you read the majority those types like
- 1:57:28is very very flattering to him at all of
- 1:57:30anything
- 1:57:31have to say about him we just thought I
- 1:57:33wasn't like 100% committed to him yet
- 1:57:36I mean I was monogamous with him I
- 1:57:38wasn't seeing any other men but I wasn't
- 1:57:40like hey this is the guy I want for the
- 1:57:44rest of my life with and part of the
- 1:57:46reason that I was uncertain I mean yeah
- 1:57:48he'd already built a life but honestly
- 1:57:50like he wasn't out of the marriage that
- 1:57:54he was already so I mean I'm not gonna
- 1:57:59go tell the world like hey I've got this
- 1:58:01guy and you know I'm going to take in
- 1:58:03his kids and we're going to do this and
- 1:58:06we're going to do that and it wasn't
- 1:58:07because I have any problems with them
- 1:58:09it's just yes I know context of that
- 1:58:17text now looking at it works you have to
- 1:58:20look at it from the perspective then
- 1:58:23yeah and how it can be misconstrued or
- 1:58:26made out to sound something another way
- 1:58:29that's why I wanted to give you the
- 1:58:30opportunity to say what it really means
- 1:58:32okay well I don't mean any harm for kids
- 1:58:35I always thought they were so cute when
- 1:58:37he showed me those pictures he was all
- 1:58:39about room you know and not only that
- 1:58:41it's like when she does get those text
- 1:58:43you will see like there was not very
- 1:58:46much mention of his children and if
- 1:58:48there is mention of those children and
- 1:58:49it always like cute stops where it's
- 1:58:52like hey you should show them in their
- 1:58:54hanging this apartments great for them
- 1:58:55or you know what do you think about bed
- 1:58:57you know like they don't little bro that
- 1:59:01reminded me of me of my little sister
- 1:59:02they're like the same page yeah I mean
- 1:59:05like it was so cute like you would call
- 1:59:08the little daughter of the younger ones
- 1:59:10easy caller rampage like she's a wild
- 1:59:13and it is to just make me smile because
- 1:59:16my little sister was totally right and
- 1:59:21it just looks kind of like spa you know
- 1:59:23and so like it just kind of made me
- 1:59:29think like okay because they're going
- 1:59:31through divorce at the same age that I
- 1:59:33was at when my parents went through
- 1:59:35divorce that's like how did I handle
- 1:59:37that you know like tell them like you
- 1:59:39know this is what happened
- 1:59:41we were this old and just try to like
- 1:59:43give him a reference because I gave it
- 1:59:46down right okay I mean that but just
- 1:59:51because I care about the him and I care
- 1:59:53about his kids and and all of that
- 1:59:56doesn't mean that I'm ready to turn
- 1:59:58around like they have he ever say
- 2:00:00anything like that like dry out to get
- 2:00:02bread mixes or do I
- 2:00:04you know this shocked me just as much as
- 2:00:08I can get shocked the rest of the world
- 2:00:10all of it like he lied so much now I go
- 2:00:15back and think of all the [ __ ] and I'm
- 2:00:16like it's lie everything to me nouveau
- 2:00:19I'm like his friends on stay the night
- 2:00:21at their house he even fooled them it's
- 2:00:24not just me you lied to everybody here
- 2:00:26all of you and everybody set up for his
- 2:00:31friends set up for him I really thought
- 2:00:33she left I was like learn from go
- 2:00:37welcome back to the day sure yeah right
- 2:00:40water cooled up she'll be here it'll be
- 2:00:41okay you know wait how do we convince
- 2:00:44like I think she's just upset mmm
- 2:00:52know what I guess I mean even now when I
- 2:00:57go back to this stuff I'm like it
- 2:00:59doesn't make sense you know or it seemed
- 2:01:02a little off that stuff still doesn't
- 2:01:05send a red flag to me like hey this
- 2:01:08guy's and we're his family
- 2:01:10sure yeah I don't think there was any
- 2:01:12you have any indication and by all kind
- 2:01:15of doesn't seem like anybody did know I
- 2:01:17just like you know sometimes I like to
- 2:01:22think about me in a thinking cause like
- 2:01:24you don't know you know but it's like
- 2:01:27how long has his brain bit like shifting
- 2:01:32to this parent this paradigm shift or he
- 2:01:35feels the need to do this it's like I
- 2:01:37just don't believe that something that
- 2:01:40just happens and a day or two days
- 2:01:44I don't think happens at two months
- 2:01:47I think this is something that takes a
- 2:01:49very very long time to develop I don't
- 2:01:53all right so that scares you when you
- 2:01:55are back in it yeah because I'd like to
- 2:01:58think about it I'm like he could have
- 2:02:01that capacity to do that whether I was
- 2:02:05in his life
- 2:02:07he gotta have that capacity to do that
- 2:02:09maybe not even just to them it could
- 2:02:11have been me it could have been our
- 2:02:13co-workers I mean the more I think about
- 2:02:18it I mean I think think a lot of people
- 2:02:23are gonna probably assume that I was the
- 2:02:25catalyst for his movement but I don't
- 2:02:28think you know not me like instructing
- 2:02:33him to him deciding to do that because
- 2:02:35he had me in his life and because he was
- 2:02:38so they can saturated with what we had
- 2:02:41on but you know like I try to put the
- 2:02:47reason to it at the end like why would
- 2:02:49you wipe out your family to be with me
- 2:02:53like it doesn't it doesn't like you it's
- 2:02:56like
- 2:02:57how would that go like hey my family
- 2:03:01does this appeared and you think that
- 2:03:04I'm going to just not be concerned about
- 2:03:07that and not only that like he was so
- 2:03:11about the little girl and I always try
- 2:03:13to like push him to do that like I told
- 2:03:16you like every day's work where but he
- 2:03:20would work for my house after work I
- 2:03:22didn't know going off your kids your
- 2:03:25cheaper home but that was me
- 2:03:27belonging in hand that was me pushing
- 2:03:29that if you go do it you know any spend
- 2:03:32time with them but it was never like oh
- 2:03:33I don't wanna hang out with them you
- 2:03:34just go can I see you for a few hours
- 2:03:36I'm like if your kids are way going on
- 2:03:38their chins you know if they're sleeping
- 2:03:41you want talk you call me but don't do
- 2:03:43that all their office and time in them
- 2:03:45and in it I just and that is that that
- 2:03:50is the part that I have like a horse
- 2:03:52part swallowing more it's like why would
- 2:03:56you take them out to spend time with me
- 2:04:01like
- 2:04:05it doesn't fit it doesn't do you know I
- 2:04:15really said he was in touch but even
- 2:04:20then if he's so all about me and I
- 2:04:25support him being with his kids you
- 2:04:28would think that he would want to do
- 2:04:33what or make me repent
- 2:04:39and so it was already makes me happy
- 2:04:42with a man you know this or 10 kids and
- 2:04:46syntax it's in phone conversation I mean
- 2:04:50to look at it doesn't I adapt one
- 2:04:54particular context and that just it's so
- 2:04:58kind of interpretation and whether or
- 2:05:01not she said that's why I wanted to
- 2:05:02address it in particular okay yeah
- 2:05:05there's nothing like that how can you
- 2:05:13work that inside track I actually got a
- 2:05:17lot about that I'm just teasing five six
- 2:05:26nine zero nine I just wanna make sure
- 2:05:30yeah don't send those to anybody else
- 2:05:32please
- 2:05:35that's you
- 2:05:40gross animal
- 2:05:49how I know if you nailed it could you
- 2:05:52select each one and attach it to the you
- 2:05:54know
- 2:05:56I just wanted doing here hi good boy
- 2:06:17sometimes I just feel like sometimes I
- 2:06:21was generally think
- 2:06:22so that meant she was sliding off of his
- 2:06:25cracker long before I came into his life
- 2:06:30have you seen your from the media the
- 2:06:33look what it is yeah I guess they know I
- 2:06:35live I know what they're reporting about
- 2:06:38him or the case they even watching that
- 2:06:46so you saw video of him like talking
- 2:06:50about relationships
- 2:06:51oh I don't really I can't even like
- 2:06:54bring myself to like watch most of them
- 2:06:57I would like scroll through the
- 2:06:58headlines if they look different than
- 2:07:01what
- 2:07:05I previously I knew about the
- 2:07:10investigation
- 2:07:12I'm just looking for my name's but I
- 2:07:15know what it happens do with that but
- 2:07:20other than that
- 2:07:26I never actually watched that video okay
- 2:07:28I don't know I have a hard time label
- 2:07:31looking at him now this kind of same
- 2:07:33thing like when I deleted the text
- 2:07:35because I was mugshot and I like looked
- 2:07:38at it the first time I saw it and it
- 2:07:41scared me and now I see it
- 2:07:43I sleep because I find it
- 2:07:53to be
- 2:07:59I don't want to work this new phone now
- 2:08:06attached
- 2:08:10I think some of these are repeat them so
- 2:08:12it's okay okay as long as I have them
- 2:08:14all of you
- 2:08:22you went too much coffee you're coming
- 2:08:32oh you do
- 2:08:37hey you don't you know you're missing
- 2:08:40the last one submitted last one in the
- 2:08:45moss and shot occur and then don't think
- 2:08:49about this stuff for a while all right
- 2:08:52hot and then much and I'm done with your
- 2:08:54phone
- 2:08:56I'll get this back to you I mean if you
- 2:08:58guys know who I need to keep it because
- 2:09:00what it's going to be worth if I take
- 2:09:02everything then it's just easy I get it
- 2:09:05back to you okay
- 2:09:06so that the examiner that's going to
- 2:09:07look at she comes back in running next
- 2:09:10week and I'll try to corral her to do
- 2:09:14that as early as possible so we can
- 2:09:18download your phone and get a return to
- 2:09:19you
- 2:09:26hmm
- 2:09:37totally different than an iPhone or that
- 2:09:40and she's been a long time
- 2:09:46actually have this ome go see if I can
- 2:09:49find it and our program guru quick tip
- 2:09:51of your right back
- 2:10:39you
- 2:14:47okay seven to zero
- 2:14:53he is reading that look for his end
- 2:14:59darker stuff so then he can get out of
- 2:15:01here
- 2:15:19I just resent you all of those so that
- 2:15:24would have been on the on the 31-day
- 2:15:31moment was Saturday to the 1328
- 2:15:42my comrade
- 2:15:54oh now it's fine
- 2:16:05don't beat up yourself about it we
- 2:16:07already did you this 10 times it is what
- 2:16:10it is the journey over once potentially
- 2:16:12from his indoor performance that's a
- 2:16:14possibility is there wita search those I
- 2:16:25haven't use this all year
- 2:16:27[Music]
- 2:16:33everybody no not on your I tried how
- 2:16:42about in your call that was text
- 2:16:45messages in your Colo the jurors
- 2:16:47converse with and on that phone I mean
- 2:16:48this phones for you uh-oh
- 2:16:51Aladin our sources so how about you look
- 2:16:54at your colleges 1102 2016 these are all
- 2:17:052016 so did enough favorite all of our
- 2:17:08Davis today once I got the phone
- 2:17:14that I know some galaxies as my yeah I
- 2:17:19just I'm so weird all these messages are
- 2:17:21showing about like cow there would be so
- 2:17:23Susan Roane us what in the same all
- 2:17:30right you ready get out of here alright
- 2:17:35thank you
- 2:17:37so I will call you other movie next time
- 2:17:44you do this you're going so according to
- 2:17:47recapture up when your phone's done and
- 2:17:50I'll put that back to you and then at
- 2:17:52that time if there's anything we can
- 2:17:55talk about it
- 2:18:00I do right now
- 2:18:05yeah there are some stuff
- 2:18:11change though do they know that I like
- 2:18:14when your wedding clothes are good
- 2:18:16yellow day afternoon
- 2:18:18do they know what you said you know
- 2:18:50you
- 2:18:50[Music]
- 2:18:57you
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