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0:04What's up, guys? It's your boy Zawoki
0:06back with another Chris Watts video.
0:09And this one is going to be obviously
0:11we're watching Criminal Minds. Um, which
0:14I love his channel. Um, I've spoken with
0:18him and so forth like that over the the
0:20course of a couple years and I
0:22definitely do enjoy his content. Now,
0:25the video that we're about to watch, not
0:28necessarily states new stuff because
0:31everybody's like, "Smokei, is there
0:33anything new coming out? Is it There's
0:36nothing besides her being seen in
0:38Montana, Billings, Montana for that um
0:43funeral that uh she went to. But the
0:46reason why we continuously dissect this
0:50one, because a lot of us think,
0:53including myself, that Nicole Kassinger
0:56was involved in some shape or form. Now,
0:58again, with everything that we've talked
1:00about and so forth like that, it's more
1:01alleged than anything because we can't
1:04prove anything.
1:06Mostly because the DA doesn't want to
1:08even touch this anymore. He got his guy,
1:11he got paid for his
1:14thing. he or the the case and then moved
1:17on. Okay. So, I'm definitely wanting to
1:20watch this in two parts. We're not going
1:21to watch the whole thing at once because
1:23it's an hour and 45 minutes, but we're
1:27going to watch it in two parts. So,
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2:00want to watch with my commentary, my
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2:04description for you guys to watch the
2:06actual video. And um yeah, so without
2:09further ado, let's get into Behind
2:12Criminal Mind presents the new testimony
2:14reveals a second secret app deep dive
2:18series. Very interesting. Let's take a
2:20look.
2:21Doubt the possibility of parole for the
2:23quadr homicide. I always look inside
2:26here and the the the people that are
2:29around here because Chris Watts said he
2:32saw Nicole, but I keep trying to look of
2:36his entire family nearly seven years
2:38ago. In the years since, the Weld County
2:41District Attorney has continued to
2:44receive new and credible information
2:46concerning Nicole Kessinger's possible
2:49involvement. However, despite the
2:51ongoing barrage of requests for a full
2:54and complete investigation, he has
2:57refused them all. When I say the word
2:59prosecutor, what phrase immediately
3:01comes to mind? Tough on crime,
3:05aggressive,
3:07overbearing, and rigid in appearance.
3:09You ask my wife and she might jump right
3:11to arrogant.
3:13I'll admit that these stereotypes aren't
3:15too far off base. rigid and arrogant
3:18doesn't even begin to cover it. But for
3:20the first time in over half a decade,
3:23entirely new evidence has been
3:25discovered that has the potential to
3:27break this case wide open. Information
3:31never previously known or disclosed by
3:34law enforcement since the arrest of
3:36Chris Watts. On the 6th of November
3:392018, Chris Watts formally accepted the
3:42prosecution's plea deal, agreeing to a
3:45conviction of five life sentences. This
3:48deal, approved by DA Ror himself, was
3:51finalized just 86 days after the crimes
3:55Watts committed on August 13th, 2018. So
3:59fast. Every single day since Watt's
4:02conviction, the true crime community has
4:04continued to find glaring mistakes,
4:07omissions, and failures that exposes the
4:10Hey, that's me. The improper and
4:12incomplete investigation conducted by
4:14the Weld County District Attorney,
4:16Michael Roor. In today's episode, we
4:18will continue with our detailed deep
4:20dive analysis of the Chris Watts case,
4:22analyzing Watt's first interview and
4:24contrasting this new information with
4:26shocking details that Watts revealed
4:28just 24 hours after he committed his
4:30crimes. providing an examination of the
4:33discovery records while shedding light
4:35on what that evidence actually reveals,
4:37helping us all to finally answer the
4:39question. Could law enforcement have
4:41fully and completely investigated this
4:44quadruple homicide in just 86 days? This
4:47is In Search of the Truth, the Chris
4:49Watts Deep Dive Series, the third
4:51installment. I honestly think it was way
4:53too fast. That's just me. In the last
4:56two episodes of this deep dive series,
4:58we have traversed the rocky landscape of
5:00the Watts case surrounding the days and
5:02weeks preceding this painful tragedy. We
5:04were given a deeply disturbing view of
5:07the heartbreak that Shannan was forced
5:08to endure at the hands of a man who was
5:10seemingly devoid of empathy or concern.
5:14Since beginning my analysis of this
5:15case, I have continued to receive
5:17countless messages from current and
5:19former members of law enforcement who
5:21all agree that these investigators could
5:24not have thoroughly evaluated the facts
5:26of this case. I've been getting the same
5:28thing. I have retired DAs. I have
5:33retired law enforcement. I have active
5:37law enforcement DAs, um, doctors, um,
5:42morticians. I've had literally probably
5:45anybody you could think of that was a
5:47professional
5:49has messaged me on Instagram. I've
5:51thought about making a video on just
5:53this conversations that I've had
5:58and all of them said that this was way
6:00too fast.
6:02It was done wrong. Not all the police
6:05officers were wrong, but a lot of them
6:09didn't do their diligence. They missed
6:12things. they screwed things up and
6:16yeah, so it just really makes you think
6:21when you hear this from all these other
6:22different people and of course they're
6:24going to have different jurisdictions
6:26when it comes to like Colorado to New
6:28York or California to Florida, Tennessee
6:32to Washington. You're going to have
6:35differences, but do you have that many
6:38differences?
6:40I'm just saying it's it raises
6:45red flags. I'm just throwing that out
6:47there. In less than 3 months time, but
6:51for the first time since the onset of
6:53this case, I will be able to
6:54definitively demonstrate for you just
6:56how inadequate this investigation was.
6:59But please remember, Chris Watts will
7:01always bear sole responsibility for his
7:04own actions. Oh yes, our analysis will
7:07always be about the pursuit of justice.
7:09So, as we evaluate the facts, we will
7:11remember the one and only reason why we
7:14continue to advocate for that justice,
7:16the victims. So, with that said, let's
7:19begin. Just because Nicole Kessinger
7:22needs to be
7:25looked at.
7:27If they just look at her and prove her
7:29innocence or prove her guilt, then we're
7:32done. This case will go quiet. This case
7:36will be silent.
7:38It would just be a
7:41point in history
7:44um that
7:46happened and we tried to learn from.
7:49But Shannan, Bella, Celeste, and Nico
7:52deserve to have the people that were
7:54involved brought to justice. And that's
7:56not just Chris. I feel wholeheartedly
8:00that Nicole Kessinger was involved
8:02allegedly
8:04in these murders. I can't tell if it's
8:07physical, emotional, mental, something I
8:11can feel in my body that she was
8:14involved. Just after 2 a.m. on the
8:16morning of August 14th, Chris and Nicole
8:19have just finished their nearly 3-hour
8:21long phone call. The same call that
8:23Nicole Kassinger will later claim that
8:25she barely recalled what they discussed
8:27or talked about. According to the
8:28discovery records, at 2:17 a.m. the two
8:31would say their final goodbyes, but not
8:33before Nicole would eavesdrop on a phone
8:35call with law enforcement where Chris
8:37was being asked very specific questions
8:39about his missing family. And earlier
8:41that same morning, Nicole Kassinger made
8:43sure to get on to Google and search for
8:45the name Shannan Watts. Over the years,
8:48we've learned that law enforcement never
8:50bothered to ask Nicole why she would be
8:52searching for Shannan at that specific
8:54point in time. Especially in light of
8:56the fact that Kessinger would go on to
8:58claim that she truly believed that
9:00Shannan was okay and simply at a
9:02friend's house.
9:04Bull crap. Cuz she said, "Well, maybe
9:06she possibly was punishing Chris for
9:08what was going on." She said that. We
9:11watched it happen.
9:17afternoon. He told me that she was like
9:20gone and he didn't know where she was.
9:22And at that point, I don't think that it
9:25set off any alarms in my head just
9:28because
9:30I mean I have because she knew that she
9:34was already gone.
9:42She's full of crap. Friends that I And
9:43if I don't hear from them for like three
9:45hours or six hours or even like a couple
9:47days, I don't feel concerned about where
9:50they're at because it's kind of a
9:52standard thing for me. Um, but then she
9:54didn't come home that night. I was like,
9:56"Okay, well, maybe she'll come back."
9:57And I was kind of under the impression
9:59since they're separating that maybe she
10:01decided to take the kids. Maybe she
10:03decided to just
10:05leave for a few days. I don't know. I
10:06was just Nicole, you're full of crap. I
10:09I felt like maybe she was just trying to
10:11get some space and I figured maybe that
10:12was why her stuff there to just get some
10:15quiet. If Nicole believed that Shannan
10:17was unharmed, then why would she be
10:19looking for her on Google? Right that
10:22morning, Sandy Ruseek, the mother of
10:24Shannan, called Chris and spoke to him
10:26for just over four minutes. The two
10:28would speak later that same morning at
10:306:32, and Chris would continue to
10:32perpetuate the claim that he did not
10:34know where her daughter and his children
10:36were, feigning innocence over the
10:38monstrosity of what he was still
10:40desperately trying to hide. An hour
10:42later, at 7:26 a.m., Chris messaged
10:45Shannan's friend Sam, continuing the lie
10:47that Shannan and the girls were likely
10:49safe. He told her, "I'm hoping she's
10:51with someone I don't know because I have
10:53exhausted all of the people that I know
10:55of. I'm optimistic we will reunite
10:57again. People have been stopping by from
10:59time to time." Two hours later and Chris
11:01Watts transferred one final nude image
11:03of his paramore Nicole Kesser. Oh man.
11:09into his secret calculator app. At 12:08
11:12p.m., Nicole Kessinger spends four
11:14entire hours searching the internet,
11:16news sites, and articles all concerning
11:18Shannan and the girl's disappearance.
11:20Detective Prill is careful to note that
11:22these searches that nearly took her
11:24entire workday were all deleted. And he
11:27notates this observation. Why would you
11:29delete search history
11:31of a a person that's missing that you're
11:34with a man
11:37sleeping with the other woman?
11:41Doesn't that scream
11:44red flag? Like I don't know how much
11:47more you can scream this and they're
11:50just like she wasn't involved. She's
11:52she's fine.
11:55in red. It's my experience that when law
11:58enforcement wants to highlight an area
11:59of concern, this is exactly how they do
12:02it. But just minutes after Nola had
12:04begun her relentless searches for news
12:06on Shannan and the girl's disappearance,
12:08Chris was communicating with friends and
12:09family again at 12:31 p.m. He was
12:12continuing to poorly fake the part of an
12:14aloof father trying to find his missing
12:16family. Shannan, Bella, Celeste, if
12:20you're out there, just just come back.
12:22Like if somebody has her, just please
12:24bring her back. I need to see everybody.
12:26I need to see everybody crap without
12:29anybody here. Please bring her back. I
12:32will simply never understand how or why
12:35Chris Watts thought that this interview
12:37would convince anyone of because he told
12:39his teacher that oh yeah, I went to
12:42China and he said that she believed it.
12:45So he thought with his lies he was going
12:47to get away with this.
12:49anything other than his complete and
12:51undeniable guilt. At 1:36 p.m., Chris
12:54again text Shannan's friend Sam. Sam had
12:57inquired about the possibility of
12:59issuing an Amber Alert for the girls.
13:00She was very clearly trying to do
13:02whatever she could to find them. And yet
13:05Chris could only and the reason why that
13:06they didn't do an Amber Alert because
13:08they didn't know if
13:10uh Shannan was with somebody or not with
13:14somebody because if she was with
13:15somebody um as a kidnapping then they
13:18could issue the Amber Alert. But until
13:21that time they couldn't have done it. We
13:24respond by telling her that an Amber
13:25Alert was not applicable in this
13:27situation, choosing instead to quickly
13:30change the subject while informing Sam
13:32that law enforcement had just swept his
13:33house with Cadaabver Dogs. Ending their
13:35dialogue by informing Sam that he had
13:37completed all of his interviews with law
13:39enforcement in what appeared to be an
13:41attempt at trying to insinuate that he
13:43was not responsible. Chris again called
13:45Shannan's mother, Sandy, at 2:30 p.m.
13:47and spoke with her for just over 10
13:49minutes. We would later learn that the
13:51roose checks were already I really want
13:52to know what she said. Convinced that
13:55Chris was likely involved in the
13:56disappearance of Shannan and the girls
13:58and I can only imagine that Chris and
14:00his shocking lack of empathy was evident
14:03in every word he spoke to everyone he
14:05encountered throughout the course of
14:07that day. 4 minutes after 3, Chris again
14:09communicates with Addie. He informs her
14:11that Good Morning America has contacted
14:13his sister for an interview. And if I
14:15didn't know better, it would seem that
14:17Chris is continuing to look for ways to
14:19elicit sympathy from his family. But
14:22just miles away at exactly 5 p.m.,
14:25Nicole Kessinger begins a series of
14:27seemingly incrimin Yeah, you can't tell
14:29me that that is not red flag material.
14:33Google searches that would later be
14:35identified by Detective Prill's data
14:37report. And by the end of this video,
14:39you will understand why this new
14:41information directly answers the
14:43question that Detective Prill asked
14:45nearly seven years ago. One hour later,
14:48at 6 p.m., Chris's phone notified him of
14:50a calendar entry that he labeled as
14:52talk. In the days following, law
14:54enforcement would determine that Chris
14:55had attempted to create a trail of
14:57breadcrumbs that he hoped would lead
14:59investigators to the false conclusion
15:00that Shannan and the girls had simply
15:02disappeared. Chris Watts wrongly hoped
15:04that they would come to the conclusion
15:06that he was nothing more than a loving
15:08father trying to locate his family. Just
15:1026 minutes later and Chris text his
15:12close friend Nick the letting him know
15:14that he would be on his way to his house
15:16after he stopped for gas. But while on
15:18route to spend the night at the Theer
15:20residence, Watts received a call from
15:22the Frederick Police Department.
15:23Detective Coder was requesting that
15:25Chris come into the office and answer
15:27some questions concerning this highly
15:29suspicious disappearance. his entire
15:31family. Watts would turn around and make
15:33his way to the police department in what
15:35would become the beginning of the end of
15:37his paper thin story. It's here that
15:39Chris would begin his first inoff
15:42interview with law enforcement. But this
15:44is also my very first time reviewing
15:46this footage. And when we conclude our
15:48analysis of all the lies that Chris told
15:50that day, you will learn something that
15:52no one in law enforcement has ever
15:54disclosed about this case. information
15:56that is now central to my formal request
15:59to the Weld County District Attorney's
16:01Office that they finally reopen this
16:03investigation and determine the extent
16:05of what and the guy that's behind behind
16:08criminal minds, he's a lawyer.
16:12Chris and we're hiding because it's time
16:14that we find out the truth. Hey man,
16:16brother.
16:20By the time that Chris Watts arrived at
16:22the Frederick Police Department that
16:23evening, law enforcement was already
16:25firmly aware that he was their likely
16:27primary suspect in the then
16:29disappearance of his wife and children.
16:31Anna Darko's human resource department
16:33had already informed law enforcement
16:34that Watts was communicating regularly
16:36with fellow employee Nicole Kessinger.
16:39Additionally, they had already obtained
16:41detailed phone records and knew that
16:43Chris and Nicole were far more but they
16:45were still talking and then she was
16:47deleting the messages than mere
16:49co-workers. Detective Graham Coder was
16:52tasked with the job of trying to
16:53ascertain what Chris had done with his
16:55family, but doing so without causing
16:57Chris to completely shut down. But one
17:00thing is certain, no one could have
17:02imagined just how dark this case was
17:04about to become.
17:08I'm going sit next to you so we get it
17:10together.
17:12So, what I want is he's sitting next to
17:17uh Chris Watts, more like a buddy buddy
17:19kind of thing. So, um he feels like he's
17:22engaging with Chris. They're trying to
17:25find out where his family went. Um
17:28trying to not befriend him, but seem
17:31like he's on his side. a bunch of people
17:34coming in, you know, from your
17:36neighborhood. Somebody saw something,
17:38somebody knows where these kids are. And
17:38I keep saying kids, I'm sorry. Kids
17:40know.
17:41And I should say, um, I work these quite
17:45a bit. And so tonight, if I make one of
17:47those mistakes when I say kids instead
17:48of your wife and kids, I apologize. We
17:51work it a lot. I apologize if something
17:52comes out wrong or, um, anyway. So, I
17:56know you're going through a lot, so I'm
17:58not going to keep you here all night. We
17:59go through this. From the moment
18:01Detective Coder walks through the door,
18:03he is demonstrating the behavior of an
18:05investigator who understands the gravity
18:07of this moment. He employs the
18:09well-known tactic of closing the gap
18:11between him and Chris, which
18:13subconsciously helps to remove his
18:14internal defenses. And I'm not a
18:17professional that went to school and I
18:20know that. And in so doing, he ensures
18:23that Chris never succeeds in closing off
18:25and walking out of that interview room.
18:28It's a tactic that will slowly force
18:30Chris to do the one thing that he hates
18:32to do the most. Telling the truth. So,
18:35okay. Or tell the truth. What does that
18:38mean? So, the doorbell has a a camera on
18:41it. When you get up to a certain
18:42proximity and when you ring it, it
18:44detects a visitor. Okay. Detective Coder
18:46just asked Chris about the home security
18:48system that detected Shannan's arrival
18:50just after midnight on the morning of
18:52August 13th. Now, it's very likely that
18:54Detective Coder already knows what the
18:56security notification meant, but he
18:58wants Chris to know the enormity of the
19:01information that law enforcement already
19:03has. And even more so, he wants to hear
19:05the way that Chris answers the question.
19:07If you watch closely, you can see that
19:09right after he answers him, Detective
19:11Coder stands up to close the door. And
19:14you can see Chris's body language
19:16changed right before your eyes. Watts is
19:18demonstrating all of the telltale signs
19:20of a man who is trapped and very clearly
19:22doing everything in his power to hide
19:24the truth. So, I work a lot of stuff
19:26like this in bank robberies and when I
19:27talk to, you know, a witness of a bank
19:29robbery, sometimes I find it best for
19:31them to just say, uh, I just say, uh,
19:34tell me what happened, get it all out,
19:35and then once you get it out, let's go
19:36over it. Okay? So, just get it all out
19:38as far as this. Tell me exactly what you
19:40remember, and I'll take notes about
19:41where we can go. Did you catch that?
19:43Detective Coder has just told Chris that
19:45he would like for him to tell the story
19:47of what happened in his own words from
19:49the beginning, but he equated his past
19:51experience as an investigator to
19:53interviewing victims of a bank robbery.
19:55Law enforcement already knows that Chris
19:57and Nicole are likely having an affair
19:59based on the records they have alone.
20:01And at the same time that we see Chris
20:03in this So now that he's pushing him
20:05here, he's trying to get him to feel
20:07like he he has no way out. Hot seat. His
20:10mistress Nicole is just miles away
20:13speaking with the FBI at a local park,
20:15absolutely lying through her teeth. But
20:18right now, Detective Coder needs to get
20:20Chris to tell him his first version of
20:22the truth. And he needs to do it before
20:25he shuts down the interview and requests
20:27a lawyer, which he never does. 1:40 a.m.
20:30chairs when they come knocking.
20:43Detective Coder has just proven what a
20:46skilled interrogator he is. Because this
20:48important seat change was started right
20:50as Chris began telling his first version
20:52of events. It's clear that he wants
20:54Chris to feel trapped by this
20:56positioning, putting himself between
20:58Chris and the door. And I'm not a
21:00professional, and I knew that.
21:03He wants Chris to know that he's not
21:05leaving. But more than anything else,
21:07Detective Coder, the father and husband,
21:09he wants to know what Chris did. He
21:12wants to know where to find his family.
21:14So, we're doorbell.
21:18So, when we were um over at the
21:20neighbor's house that the next day, we
21:21were looking at his camera as well, and
21:23it didn't show anybody walking up to the
21:25driveway, which is kind of weird. That's
21:26the only reason to put that on there
21:27because it showed Nicole dropping her
21:29off, but nobody actually walking up to
21:30the house. It was kind of weird. But she
21:32was in the house. Come in. Listen, I
21:34understand that criminals say and do
21:37very dumb things sometimes, but it
21:39doesn't make any sense to me why Chris
21:41thought anything good would come of this
21:43stupid lie. He just admitted to
21:45Detective Coder that the neighbor's
21:46camera never caught Shannan's arrival
21:48that morning, which means he knows that
21:50law enforcement is aware of the fact
21:52that the neighbor's camera also never
21:54showed anyone but him leaving that same
21:56morning. But I suppose that's why Chris
21:59can never seem to maintain eye contact
22:01throughout this entire interview because
22:02he knows he's a terrible liar and
22:05absolutely everyone can see. Oh, he
22:07thinks he's a great liar. Yeah. What
22:10time you talking? It's still
22:13uh 2 a.m. Jane gets into bed with me. 4
22:16a.m. That's when my alarm goes off for
22:17work and she get dressed, brushing
22:19teeth, everything I do upstairs. Okay.
22:21About 4:15, that's when I get back,
22:24slide right into bed next to her and
22:25start having a conversation with her
22:27about having the house up for sale and
22:30talking about it, like actually going
22:32proceeding with the separation. Okay.
22:34And obviously it gets pretty emotional
22:35like we're talking about like we felt
22:37this the disconnection over there like
22:38falling out of love and trying to stay
22:41together maybe just for the kids sake
22:42but we're realizing that doing like our
22:44homework is not most of the time that's
22:46not going to work. Yeah. Now for many of
22:48us who have taken the time to study this
22:50case all of this is very familiar. We
22:52know that this is the first series of
22:54lies that Chris will tell law
22:55enforcement and that eventually he will
22:57alter his story more than a few times.
23:00But it's at this point of the interview
23:01that I realized something. Chris's story
23:03is surprisingly very detailed and as we
23:06know very fabricated and from everything
23:08we know about Chris it's like if
23:10somebody went and studied it clear that
23:13throughout his or rehearsed it
23:16upbringing and his marriage that he was
23:17the kind of person who followed the
23:19strong women in his life in his early
23:21years that was his mother then it was
23:24Shannan but right here right now it's
23:26Nicole Kessinger and I just can't help
23:29but notice how rehearsed specific and
23:32detailed this lie is and I promise you
23:35that will become very important in the
23:37very near future. And it is pretty much
23:39because we have two beautiful kids and
23:41we have one on the way. So it's just a
23:43matter of like it was very emotional. We
23:45were both crying and at the end we just
23:48said, you know, she said she was going
23:49to take the kids to office today and she
23:51would be back.
23:53Listen, we all know that Chris Watts is
23:55capable of concocting lies with relative
23:57ease. But it's hard not to notice just
24:00how calm he is right now because
24:02remember, it's only been about 24 hours
24:04since Chris committed what is easily one
24:06of the most grizzly and heinous crimes
24:09anyone could ever commit. I'd be a
24:11blubbering idiot. That in the hours
24:13following his crimes, he felt a sense of
24:15relief that he was now happy because he
24:17could finally be with Nicole Kessinger.
24:20So then I can't help but ask the
24:21question, why would he be so confident
24:24in such obvious lies? It's almost as cuz
24:27he thought he was going to get away with
24:29this. Though Chris had reason to believe
24:32that this poorly planned deceit had
24:34caused. And because of new information,
24:36we now know that Chris was communicating
24:39with Nicole through a second secret app
24:41that they clearly both believed that law
24:44enforcement would never find. And it
24:46really seems that Chris believed was
24:49waiting for him on the other side. And
24:51until law enforcement subpoenas those
24:53records, we cannot know with certainty.
24:55I've always thought too, and somebody
24:57brought this to my attention as well,
24:58they thought that Chris's phone was
25:01actually recording the conversation,
25:04which again, we can't prove. Um, it's
25:07technically off, but sometimes pretty
25:09much when you can, I've done it too when
25:11I've had to record things in the past.
25:13You take the phone and you pretty much
25:15put it down or you just turn it off but
25:18it continuously or you don't turn it off
25:20but you turn off the screen and it still
25:22records because all you have to do is
25:25and it turns on the the face.
25:29So, it's a possibility
25:31what Chris and Nicole said, but it sure
25:34seems like his words were carefully
25:35planned with the singular intent of
25:38being with Nicole and ultimately to do
25:40whatever it took to get away with
25:42murder. And so I went out there my
25:45protein shake the 5 a.m. That's when I
25:48did that pack my lunch box and my
25:50oatmeal chicken took my water dug up.
25:535:15 I went outside back my truck I
25:55would load up have my book bag my lunch
25:57box computer water jug my big big clear
25:59container I put big clear containers in
26:01my truck so it's easy just to pull out
26:02pull in just depending on what I'm going
26:04to use kit I know I was going to do some
26:06stuffing box rubbers that day so I got
26:08some various open wrenches for my tool
26:10box I know doesn't work better than the
26:12ones they would give me okay um 5:30
26:15that's when I went to work and I had
26:18heard from took her about 2 hours there
26:20so 7:40 I texted her and after she could
26:22tell where the kids or if she took him
26:24anywhere. Okay. Nothing. Okay. What we
26:27just heard was Chris describing the
26:28morning of August 13th, 2018. You
26:31remember the exact same time that Nicole
26:33Kessinger's phone just happened to ping
26:35from the cell tower directly next to the
26:37Watts's home and everything that and
26:40they want us to believe that she was
26:42driving by on the way to work.
26:45She didn't clock into work almost an
26:46hour before her shift ended. She has no
26:50alibi.
26:53he is saying seems so much worse when
26:56you know what he was actually doing that
26:58morning and the lengths that he had gone
27:00to to completely annihilate every good
27:03thing that he had ever been entrusted
27:05with 12 again called me nothing and then
27:08about 12:10 p.m. That's my doorbell
27:10visitor another visitor and I was like
27:12it popped up on my phone and it says it
27:14was Nicole and I trying I put it on my
27:17phone to see if like she was trying to
27:19get in or whatnot and I hear like she's
27:20on the phone trying to I could I could
27:22hear her on through my phone saying she
27:23was trying to get to Shenan so that's
27:24when I called her help her at 12:20. She
27:27wasn't going on. She told me that Shan
27:28hadn't responded to any of her calls all
27:30day or any of her friends calls all day.
27:33That's that's kind that's very strange
27:34just because I mean she doesn't mean
27:36that that's fine. You know, like she
27:37gets busy with the kids, whatever. She's
27:39back to her people like the people like
27:40she works with direct sales. Okay. So,
27:42she's back with them. That's strange.
27:44She doesn't have to answer the phone for
27:46me. Why do you say that when she tries
27:48to get a hold of me? It's okay if she
27:49doesn't like
27:52why so much emphasis on that all.
27:58It's been said so many times throughout
28:00the history of this case, but Nicole
28:02Atkinson is the reason why Shannan and
28:05the girls were found so quickly. If she
28:07hadn't been as aggressive, forcing Chris
28:10to come home that afternoon, this case
28:11may not have had the same conclusion.
28:14But it's here, only minutes into the
28:15first formal interview with Chris Watts,
28:17that I want to remind you of why we
28:20continue to discuss this case. Because
28:22in just 85 days from the date of this
28:24interview, this case and all outstanding
28:27investigatory leads will be closed by
28:29District Attorney Michael Ror's office.
28:32The same there's other cases that were
28:34less bad or way
28:40h how I want to say this less gruesome,
28:43less um destruction. And they took
28:47months if not years
28:51And this murder case of a quadruple
28:54homicide, possibly an involvement of a
28:56mistress is done in 85 days.
29:02Who from the onset of this case has told
29:04the general public in so many words that
29:06the conviction of Chris Watts outweighed
29:09the importance of completing their
29:10investigation, holding everyone involved
29:13accountable, and obtaining justice. um
29:17everyone involved
29:19having them claim or um take
29:23accountability.
29:25I don't think Nicole took any
29:26accountability for anything. About 12:40
29:30funerals from Nicole to reach her while
29:32she was there like outside the house and
29:34at 1:00 that's when I left. I was like
29:36all right on my way down there. Uh two
29:38o'clock when I got home. Uh took him 45
29:40minutes to get there. They couldn't get
29:42in because 45 minutes late to keep the
29:45kids. Uh Nicole and the police officed
29:55and the keypad on the outside did not
29:57work in the garage. So they had to wait
29:59till I got there so I can get the remote
30:00open. And this is why I am a vocal
30:03supporter of Nicole Atkinson.
30:06was caught far earlier than his plan had
30:08accounted for. Originally, he was hoping
30:10that he would have enough time to go to
30:12work, leave at a normal time, all while
30:14sending messages faking his concern for
30:16Shannan. He needed time to get home,
30:19move her car, her phone, and all of the
30:21crime scene evidence to get it as far
30:23away from his house as possible. That's
30:26why it's so critical that Chris was
30:28interrupted before he could get home and
30:30dispose of Shannan's belongings. And
30:32it's why his story didn't make any sense
30:35in light of the evidence. Because the
30:36only logical explanation for why Shannan
30:39and the girls were never seen leaving
30:41the Watts home on camera is because they
30:43left in his truck and that Chris truly
30:46is the monster that everyone believes
30:48him to be. I don't agree with that. I
30:50open the garage door and went inside the
30:52house and looked everywhere and most
30:55nowhere to be found. Never called out.
30:58Her phone's still on the couch. Her
30:59purse is still there. Messing with the
31:00kids still there. The car and the car
31:02seat still there and there's no sign of
31:03anywhere. Okay. Okay. Does anyone else
31:06notice that Chris is reading from a
31:07document? That would mean that in a span
31:10of just over 24 hours, created a
31:12detailed outline of the prior day's
31:15events. Put that in perspective for just
31:17a minute. Chris was not known to do
31:19things like this. A highly organized
31:22person who was also incredibly
31:24meticulous. He was the puppet. There is
31:26a puppeteer.
31:28Chris was not able to do all this stuff.
31:31He was the follower while everybody else
31:33led. He followed. He didn't instruct. He
31:37didn't.
31:38Yeah. I don't know how much more like
31:42Behind Criminal Minds is doing a
31:44fantastic job because he's a
31:46professional. He knows how to use the
31:47words better than me and it's it's right
31:51there in front of us. And yet the DA is
31:53like, "We're done. We're we're not going
31:55to touch this anymore. Goodbye." like
31:58you are full of
32:01crap. I wanted to say other stuff but
32:04about dates, times, and events. Well,
32:06wouldn't you know it, there was someone
32:07in his life who happened to be very
32:09detailed about dates, times, and events.
32:11And if you turn to page 942 of the Watts
32:14Discovery, you'll find this
32:16exceptionally detailed outline that came
32:19from none other than Nicole Kessinger.
32:22But this I still don't think even think
32:24that this was Nicole Kessinger. It might
32:27have been
32:28help from her father. I don't know. Than
32:31Nicole Kessinger herself. In fact, it's
32:33so detailed it provides a near forensic
32:36level recollection of the day-to-day
32:38events concerning Nicole's supposedly
32:40short acquaintance with Chris Watts. You
32:43know, I just think it's very, very
32:44interesting that Chris is reading from a
32:46surprisingly similar document that
32:48outlines the events of the day prior in
32:51virtually the exact same way that Nicole
32:53Kessinger does just weeks later. And if
32:55you're the kind of person who sees this
32:57eversized mountain of suspicious
32:59behavior from Nicole as nothing more
33:01than mere coincidence, then good news. I
33:03have some property to sell you. Okay,
33:05I'm not going to say it, but my point
33:07still stands because at some point law
33:09enforcement needs to be honest with the
33:11monumental mistakes they made on this
33:13case, and you're about to see why. 3:00
33:17um that police officer detective
33:21Howard, right? I guess
33:25every time Nicole and I know questions
33:27about where she could have gone or who
33:29she could be with. Um at about 4:00
33:32police officers out there. He was
33:33checking neighbor security footage. Um
33:36at 5:00 p.m. uh the same same police
33:38officer, detective and a sergeant,
33:39another officer, they showed up and they
33:41searched the house again. Um about 6:00
33:44being called around anyone that I could
33:46that that may know something called
33:47hospitals, hotels. Uh 7:30 is my friend
33:50Nick Man showed up to show support his
33:52friends showing up just Lauren Dave
33:55Jeremy and 10 pretty much lay down but I
33:57didn't go to bed till like just feel the
33:59text and calls all night. Okay. And I
34:02was hoping that on the house I was
34:03hoping that I get a knock on my door but
34:06nothing happened. Do you know what
34:07absolutely blows my mind about this
34:09case? It has been nearly seven years
34:11since Chris committed this crime. And in
34:13all that time, he has never once
34:15attempted to sincerely apologize for
34:17what he did. In fact, he's done just he
34:20sent a letter.
34:23Okay, it's the exact opposite. He's
34:25forced friends, family members, and
34:26acquaintances to live with this endless
34:29black hole of suffering because he
34:31simply refuses to just tell the truth.
34:33He co-opted people who loved him in an
34:35attempt to gain their sympathy. And now
34:38once again, he's changed his story to
34:40put the blame on anyone other than
34:42himself. And one of the worst elements
34:44of this case is that because he lied so
34:47much and so often that even if he does
34:49decide to tell the truth someday, we
34:51won't believe him. Won't even believe
34:53him. But I suppose that's why so many of
34:55us still see this case as incomplete
34:58because the truth deserves to have its
35:00day even if Chris refuses to participate
35:03in making it a reality. What do you
35:05think happened? And the whole thing with
35:08the Rousex knowing about NK not being
35:11involved. Great. That's fantastic.
35:14But why can't we see it?
35:18Cuz I guarantee if you release that
35:19information that implies that Nicole
35:22Kessinger was not there,
35:25this case will go quiet. This case will
35:28be done.
35:30I telling you.
35:33At first, I really thought maybe she was
35:35just at somebody house just
35:36decompressing. Yeah. But after today,
35:39like with the onslaught of all the cars,
35:41I all the police cars, all the news, all
35:43the K9 units,
35:45it's making me lean the other direction
35:47about someone took her. Okay. But it's
35:49just
35:51if someone took her, it would have to
35:53have been someone she knew you because
35:55there's there's no sign of anything like
35:57being disturbed, broken, but like that's
35:59the way I know. At first I thought girl
36:01she was a decompression somewhere. I
36:03mean I thought she was safe even though
36:04everything in the house is left there
36:07but now it's just after today with the
36:08news crew and everything more the other
36:10direction and it's freaking me out
36:13because I have no idea where where they
36:14are
36:17really. Since I began this channel, I
36:19have spent countless hours researching
36:22every nook and cranny of this case.
36:25About Chris's upbringing, the way he
36:26carried himself with his friends, his
36:28parents, but especially I've talked to
36:30people that were Chris Watts's friends
36:33that grew up with him as children
36:37and they have pictures to prove it.
36:41Around Shannan. Now, it's obvious that
36:43Chris Watts was a terrible liar and
36:45incredibly self-diluted. a man incapable
36:48of seeing the forest for the trees. But
36:50in the months following his conviction,
36:52law enforcement was so baffled by his
36:54crime that they conducted a follow-up
36:56interview at his prison in an effort to
36:58try to understand why he would do this.
37:00I still think it's for NK, but some
37:03people think it's that's not for why
37:05they went there. Law enforcement has
37:08admitted that Chris Watts did not fit
37:11any of their current or existing
37:13offender profiles. And every single time
37:15that I hear him speak, all I hear are
37:18the words of a man who I believe was so
37:20clearly influenced into committing this
37:22crime. And that's why I will never
37:24understand why DA Ror refuses to admit
37:27his clear failures and finally properly
37:30investigate this crime to fix what they
37:33so clearly broke. If you could think of
37:37anything we could do to find them, what
37:39would it be?
37:42I mean, everything have exhausted so far
37:45like people that have car seats because
37:47she's left the car seat and she would
37:49never he hasn't exhausted crap regular
37:52chair because she's about that timeless
37:55isn't quite there yet but
37:58all the people that I know that have
38:00they contacted me unless it's I mean
38:03there's there's definitely a chance
38:04somebody I don't know I mean a guy or
38:06girl I mean and she has plenty of
38:08friends through like direct sales that I
38:10I've never met that could have could
38:13have a kid that she they probably just
38:15say, you know, let's go. Like, just back
38:17up in the back, put them, man. Let's go.
38:19Did you just hear that? Christa said
38:21something that I now believe is a
38:22critical part of this case. He just
38:25said, and she has plenty of friends
38:26through direct sales that I have never
38:28met. They could have a kid and they
38:30could have come and said, "Hey, let's
38:31go." And they back up to the back of the
38:33house, put them in and go. Chris is
38:35telling law enforcement that there is
38:37another way in and out of his house
38:40other than the front door. He's giving
38:43law enforcement key information that
38:44they seemingly missed over and over
38:47again. It's evident in the way that he
38:49describes the situation that he wants
38:51them to know that there is an alternate
38:53route into his house through Verbina
38:55Court. This road here that goes directly
38:58up to their tiny backyard fence that
39:01nobody anyone could have easily
39:03traversed. All those buildings back
39:06there nobody lived in yet.
39:11You know, kind of like an obsessive
39:13mistress whose phone just happened to
39:15ping from Frederick that and says she
39:16likes in the back door. Never mind.
39:18Morning. So, it starts to make a lot
39:20more sense why Chris is now telling law
39:22enforcement how Shannan could have
39:23disappeared because that very well may
39:26have been how Nicole Kessinger
39:27disappeared that morning. And this is
39:29like that's what's driving me nuts. when
39:31I tell the news like if she's out there
39:33like just come home like who if someone
39:36has her or might not just have her but
39:37she's at somebody's house and she's just
39:39progressing it's it's time to come back
39:40now this is real okay this has gone to a
39:43different level absolutely
39:48do you have any this guy is like you're
39:51full of crap Chris if it's good or bad
39:56yesterday I would thought that she was
39:58safe and she was good that she would
40:01as you come home today is more on the
40:03other side. I don't think that she would
40:06let it spar if she was depressing
40:08somewhere. I mean, she's not talking to
40:09anybody as far as I mean, people that
40:11reached out to me that I had talked to
40:12in like years that are friends with her.
40:15What we just heard is the exact same
40:17response that Chris gave to the local
40:19news that opened the door to the public
40:21believing that he was involved.
40:23Listening to the way he says these
40:25words, it's impossible not to notice
40:27just how completely inauthentic it is.
40:29And it's evident throughout this entire
40:31series of interviews that Chris had no
40:33earthly idea just how guilty he sounded.
40:36And I wonder if someday he'll come to
40:38the realization that the only way he
40:40will ever atone for what he did is to
40:42just tell the whole truth. And local law
40:45enforcement. He's literally said that
40:47he'll go to um his grave with
40:51information that he has. He just won't
40:53tell us like the
40:57what is that one that it starts with an
41:00Oxycodone
41:03that he doesn't know where he got or he
41:06got it from somebody but that will he'll
41:08take that to his grave and that there's
41:11things that he did with Nicole in her
41:14house that he is very much ashamed of
41:17which could be maybe he was doing
41:19something hokeyp pokey three-way with uh
41:22Nicole, Jim, and him
41:26might have given up on that outcome. I
41:28still haven't. When they look at this,
41:30what's the best thing that they can do
41:31to I don't know to say um look for these
41:35contacts, look for this Instagram,
41:37Snapchat. The only thing on here that's
41:40I would say it's going to be weird
41:41because our and um
41:47ATS news has got information about um
41:52well she got some pictures um from Chris
41:55Watts's Snapchat
41:58and it's like how much stuff went
41:59through Snapchat that we don't know
42:01about. contactless is the same.
42:03Detective Graham Coder and Agent Tammy
42:05Lee should have been allowed to take
42:07their time with this investigation
42:09because it's only been 15 minutes and
42:12Detective Coder has already asked the
42:14question that everyone in this
42:16investigation should have demanded
42:18answers to. Coder asks Watts if did you
42:20have an accomplice? There's an Instagram
42:23or a Snapchat that they can review on
42:25Chris's phone when they eventually
42:27download all of his phone data. What if
42:29he deleted them? He got rid of Facebook.
42:32You can't tell me he wasn't able to look
42:34at um Instagram or
42:40Tik Tok or how old is Tik Tok? Alexa,
42:44how old is Tik Tok?
42:46Here is an answer from an Alexa
42:49contributor that I translated. Tik Tok
42:51appeared in 2014, so it's Alexa, stop.
42:55So yeah, it could have been that he had
42:57that and um we've heard that they talked
43:01on Skype. So that's a possib
43:05I'm I'm guessing they probably did
43:07somewhat check it, but did they? We
43:09don't know. It's not the discovery. And
43:11if anything was in there about Nicole,
43:13it's been redacted.
43:15And you'll notice that immediately after
43:17he's asked that question, Chris
43:19completely changes the subject. Sadly,
43:21it's far too early for Detective Coder
43:23to understand just how vital this line
43:25of questioning was. And sadly, it's
43:28taken over half a decade for the answer
43:30to that question to come to light. That
43:33proves the inadequacy of this
43:34investigation. Is there any good ideas
43:37that your friends have had saying I got
43:38to try this? I got to do this. A lot of
43:40people have asked about Amber Alerts,
43:41but I'm not sure like why that I'm not
43:42sure like I'm sure you know Amber alerts
43:44have to do it like all right if you know
43:45someone has taken a kid, but since the
43:47last person you saw was the mom, you
43:48know, same thing everybody's gone.
43:50That's why not really used this respect.
43:53Well, they did they did a press
43:54statement. Listen, I understand that
43:56Chris was hiding one of the most vile
43:58crime scenes in Colorado history, but I
44:00genuinely cannot understand his complete
44:03apathy towards his own children. It
44:06seems like he doesn't even know how
44:08objectively bizarre his behavior is. He
44:10cares. He can't even seem to competently
44:13fake concern over the reality that his
44:15pregnant wife and children are missing.
44:17which only further strengthens my view
44:19that the only logical explanation of why
44:22he could be so FL or Nicole Kessinger
44:24and they were so little
44:27in his disregard for his family's
44:29well-being was because he knew that his
44:31mistress was waiting for him and that
44:33all he needed to do was find a way to
44:35prevent law enforcement from finding the
44:37nightmare that he was hiding at Servy
44:39319. How could she have left the house?
44:44Only way I should have left the house is
44:46from my picked her up, but it happened
44:47after the camera in the front where the
44:50neighbor faces the driveway. They would
44:52have picked that up. Only thing I picked
44:54up was me leaving at like 56. Okay. I
44:57didn't know you were. It's neighbor's
44:58hammer.
45:00We were all over there watching it with
45:01the
45:03loading up my truck.
45:05Chris is again reminding Detective Coder
45:08that the only other way that anyone
45:10could have left the house undetected
45:12would have been through the backyard
45:13since no other movement was picked up by
45:15neighbor Nate's camera. But Chris knows
45:17that every single person who loves
45:19Shannan is telling law enforcement that
45:21Shannan would have never left the home
45:23without her cell phone, without the
45:25girl's car seats, and without which was
45:27in the couch. But who put it in the
45:29couch? Her medication, let alone
45:33everything else she left behind. But
45:34Detective Coder is no fool. He knows
45:37that Shannan didn't leave through the
45:38backyard that morning. And he knows that
45:40the only person who does know where she
45:42is and where his children are is the man
45:45sitting in front of him. So we talked
45:46about her decompression a few times.
45:48Where would you do that? She would have
45:50to go to her friend's house to do that.
45:51She wouldn't just go anywhere. No.
45:54I've checked. She had if she had any
45:56cash on her. I'm not sure like how much
45:57she would have had on. She doesn't
45:58usually didn't carry much cash. The cash
46:00she had in her wallet wasn't to Cole the
46:02previous day. Cole. Oh, okay. She told
46:04me that the cash gave her when we found
46:06her purse for what?
46:08I'm not sure. She didn't tell me. Okay.
46:10But that was only cash out of her
46:11wallet. And is that still at the house
46:13she said? Yeah. Okay. So, is her
46:15license? Yeah. She got no cash that we
46:18know. No license, no phone. Um, anything
46:22about the clothes in the closet, the
46:24hamper, and drawers that makes you
46:25think, did she pack some boots? No one
46:27knows.
46:28Like, she has so many clothes in that in
46:30that closet. Like, it's it'd be hard to
46:31really tell if she took A little amount.
46:34A big amount. It'd be pretty obvious,
46:35but like a little amount.
46:38Detective Coder is going step by step
46:40through every possible item that Chris
46:42claims Shannan left. And there's
46:44probably a chat bubble right here that
46:45he goes, "Do I really have to listen to
46:48this Nimrod talk and lie about
46:50everything when we know that
46:53he's the he's the bad guy?" behind.
46:56While it may seem like he's trying to
46:58ascertain where Shannan took the girls,
47:00it's very likely that he already knows
47:02Shannan's not coming home alive. The
47:04point of this exercise is to make Chris
47:06say out loud that Shannan left the house
47:08without her clothes, her medication, her
47:10phone, or anything else the girls needed
47:12and let the absurdity of that answer
47:15hang in the air and force Chris to the
47:17realization that the only avenue he has
47:19left is to reveal what he did with his
47:21family. But this detective could not
47:23have possibly known the lengths that the
47:25man sitting in front of him would go to
47:27just to avoid the truth. Even at the
47:30expense of being labeled one of the most
47:32evil men alive. And it's my experience
47:34that when you are dealing with someone
47:36who refuses to tell the truth, the only
47:38option that you have left is to do it
47:40for them. Let me back up a tiny bit. You
47:42come home, no one has been in the house.
47:45No. Okay. No one could get in the house.
47:46Is that right? Yeah. Unless you had a
47:47garage door. Okay. And that's how you
47:49got in. So at this point you be the
47:51police at this point. Yes. So you the
47:52police Nicole was it person
47:58Nicholas?
48:01I think it's Nick. And so you and Nicole
48:04aren't besties per se. You and although
48:07like I mean we're friends but yeah my
48:09wife and her good friends. Okay. And so
48:12Nick you Nick? No. Okay. Why is Nick
48:15there? He was just with her with his
48:17mom. Okay.
48:19Is there anything about there? Not that
48:22I really think of. Do you think anything
48:25about your wife not being around? You
48:27really don't know why Nicole's there.
48:30She's looking for her friend.
48:35I would hope not.
48:37I mean, like Nicole is one of her good
48:39friends. Okay, so let's review.
48:41Detective Coder is asking Chris about
48:43what happened when he arrived home from
48:44work the afternoon of August 13th. He
48:46then asks Chris if Nicole Atkinson and
48:49her son Nick could have possibly been
48:51involved in the disappearance of Shannan
48:53and the girls. That's messed up. And
48:55that's where the Shannan haters are
48:57like, "It was Nicole and her son that
49:00took Shannan or M." Like, what
49:04that's that's there's people that are
49:06doing that. Chris Watts knows that
49:08Nicole Atkinson had nothing to do with
49:11his crimes and instead of showing but
49:13again tries to blame it on somebody else
49:16that might be there any semblance of
49:18decency by affirming Nicole Atkinson's
49:20innocence he instead responds by saying
49:23I don't know if she was involved I
49:25certainly hope not tried to imagine the
49:27enormity of his response if law
49:29enforcement didn't already have
49:31considerable information that suggested
49:33Chris's involvement he could have placed
49:35Nicole Atkinson at the center of their
49:37investigation, wasting time and more
49:39importantly putting an innocent person
49:42under suspicion for the crimes that he
49:44committed. And while this investigation
49:46may have been rushed, we can be grateful
49:48that the detectives involved were smart
49:50enough to see through the avalanche of
49:52what's endless lies and misdirection.
49:56Begin calling around to anyone I know
49:58that could something
50:00call hospitals and hospitals as well. 73
50:03friends Nick and come by to show
50:05support.
50:07So 6 began calling around anyone I know
50:09that could know something or maybe seen
50:11what happened there. Same thing like
50:13everybody that I've talked to is like
50:15they haven't heard from her, they
50:16haven't seen her, they nothing.
50:19Who's helping you make these calls?
50:20That's just me. Just point you by
50:22yourself. I was by myself. I'm sure
50:23Nicole and other people were doing that
50:24while they were gone. Detective Coder
50:26has been reading directly from the
50:28surprisingly detailed outline that Chris
50:30brought to his first interview. Cota
50:32reads the segment about how Chris called
50:33friends to try and see if anyone had
50:35heard from Shannan. But then he reads
50:37how Chris claimed to have called local
50:38hospitals to try and see if Shannan had
50:41been admitted. And while this detective
50:42doesn't yet know the full scope of the
50:44truth, he will soon find out that Chris
50:46had made those calls. In fact, what's
50:48called Good Samaritan Medical Center,
50:50St. Anthony North Health Campus,
50:52Longmont United Hospital, and UC Health
50:54in Broomfield. The only problem was that
50:56Chris made all four of those calls in a
50:58span of just four minutes. So, it was
51:01quite literally impossible for him to
51:03have spoken with anyone at these
51:04hospitals and confirmed the absence of
51:07his wife and children. But even in spite
51:09of the lack of information at this very
51:11early stage of their investigation,
51:13Detective Coder is about to challenge
51:15all of Watt's lies and force him to
51:17reveal his tell to reveal the truth
51:20behind his lies. Can we talk about some
51:23of that?
51:26Here we go. work investigations like
51:28this, I have to keep an open mind on
51:30everything. Okay?
51:34And part of keeping an open mind is
51:36listening to you talk about your wife
51:37and your marriage. And the day she goes
51:41missing is the day that you guys have
51:42marital discord. Okay.
51:45So you can understand about
51:50relationship.
51:52Like I know like I've talked to a few of
51:54my friends like this good on you. I know
51:57it's like people that if people knew
51:58that we were having marital issues,
52:01they're going to look at me, especially
52:02with the way everything was. It honestly
52:04just makes me sick to my stomach because
52:05this is something that I would never do
52:09ever. Now, you don't have to be a body
52:12language. You can literally see his
52:14chest like
52:17like it's it's going in and out, in
52:20expert to know that everything Chris
52:22Watch just said is complete and utter
52:24BS. From the way that he responds to the
52:26question of his implied involvement to
52:28the way he holds his hands, everything
52:30about his affect implies guilt.
52:32Thankfully, the sheer volume of evidence
52:34that law enforcement was building
52:36against Watts was already considerable.
52:38And this is still a full day before the
52:40infamous polygraph. But Detective Coder
52:43isn't going to allow Chris to squirm
52:44away and deflect from his suspicion. In
52:47fact, for the next 45 minutes, this
52:49investigator is going to push Watts into
52:51an allout confrontation. Coder is going
52:53to demand answers for what Chris did to
52:56Shannan and the girls. And by the time
52:58he's done, law enforcement will know
53:00with certainty exactly who their primary
53:02suspect is. I know like you have to look
53:05at every every vantage point. This is
53:07something I was never doing to my kids
53:09or my wife at all.
53:17Man, the suspense in that room. You can
53:20cut it with a knife.
53:23I'm not sure like what I could do like
53:26to make people believe that just because
53:27if they they think you were have marital
53:30discord they would automatically me but
53:32there's no I would harm anybody in my
53:34family
53:36at all.
53:43I know we were having marital discord
53:44and we had that conversation that
53:46morning and then she goes we have no
53:49idea where she is or the kids.
53:52I promise you that has nothing to do
53:55with any of that.
54:01He just he keeps talking and this
54:04detective is
54:09like we don't believe a word you're
54:10saying dude
54:18why should I believe you because I'm
54:20very trusting person and the people that
54:22do know me they know how I'm a calm
54:24person I am not an argumented person I
54:27am a person who is that's never going to
54:30be abusive physical in any kind of
54:32relationship. I will never harm my kids.
54:34I will never harm my wife. You can talk
54:37to me. You can talk to any of my
54:38friends, any of her friends. They know
54:41me. They know I'm a lowkey guy that's
54:44quiet. I'm not about confrontation. I'm
54:47not about anything that elevates to that
54:50level. I mean, like if someone yells at
54:53me, screams at me, I just hate it. And I
54:56just try to get it by the wayside and
54:58get it back to where it's a cool just a
55:00cool conversation. or like none of that
55:01none of that gives that I am not that
55:04person over the last two that was that
55:07would be true but if he didn't do what
55:10he did he was that kind of person where
55:12he didn't find drama didn't seek it try
55:16to avoid it and so forth but then he
55:19goes and murders his family and then
55:20that all goes out the window so minutes
55:23Chris Watts has unintentionally walked
55:25himself into one of the most elaborate
55:27traps that he could have when he
55:29probably should have said I need to
55:30speak to a uh lawyer possibly imagined.
55:34Detective Coder is letting Chris convict
55:36himself. He wants him to talk because
55:38every good investigator understands that
55:40they need the defendant to tell their
55:42story because every case has the
55:45potential to end up in front of a jury
55:47or in front of an appellet court. One of
55:49the most significant things that Chris
55:51said was near the end of that segment.
55:53He said, "When someone yells at me or
55:55screams at me, I just take it. I believe
55:58that the person you need to worry about
56:00most, I bet he does. Just take it. It
56:03isn't typically the loudmouth or the
56:05arrogant braggards or even the ones who
56:07may appear dangerous. In my experience,
56:10the most perilous person of all is the
56:12person who gets yelled and screamed at
56:14and just takes it. But it's how Chris
56:16described himself that I want you to pay
56:18very close attention to. When Cota asks
56:20him why he should believe that Chris did
56:23not harm his family, Chris responds by
56:25telling him that he is a trustworthy
56:27person. Of course, now we know that his
56:29response was a complete and utter lie.
56:31But you will want to remember his
56:33undeniable tell. When Chris Watts lies,
56:36he describes himself as someone who
56:38friends and family would call
56:39trustworthy.
56:42And we're going to stop it there for
56:43part one. If you guys want to see part
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57:04be safe, guys. As always, keep nerding
57:06on and we will see you guys in the next
57:09video. Peace.
57:11[Applause]
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