Chris Watts Case - Nickole Atkinson and Her Son Nickolas' Interview — Transcript
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- 0:00okay so i just wanted to do a follow-up
- 0:03interview
- 0:04um
- 0:04mainly with your son
- 0:07like we talked real briefly at the house
- 0:09yeah okay
- 0:11um i just urge you when i ask him
- 0:13questions
- 0:14that just don't try to ask for him at
- 0:16all or anything like that and then you
- 0:18just answer the best of your ability if
- 0:19you don't know you don't know don't
- 0:20worry about it right okay so what's your
- 0:22name nicholas scott
- 0:25nicholas give an idea
- 0:28that's
- 0:31let's take a picture
- 0:53so just walk me through
- 0:57your version of everything from the time
- 0:59the first time you guys went to the
- 1:00house
- 1:01um we went to the house we
- 1:04went up to the door
- 1:06and
- 1:07um
- 1:08knocked on it it didn't work then we
- 1:10entered the code the code that we knew
- 1:13to open the door and then the boat lock
- 1:15was open
- 1:16was shut so we kind of opened the door
- 1:18all the way um we shouted shanann
- 1:22through the crack of the door
- 1:24a few times and there was no response
- 1:26somebody closed it and we went back
- 1:29and then we pulled mom's car up to the
- 1:32garage door
- 1:33so that we could um so i could stand up
- 1:35to see if her car was on the inside of
- 1:37it okay
- 1:39and then um
- 1:40once we saw that we went back to the
- 1:42door opened it again
- 1:44to in the
- 1:46and then through the small crack we
- 1:48should have chained a few times okay and
- 1:50then we called chris
- 1:53and chris said um
- 1:55that she was on a playdate
- 1:58with friends they say that to you or say
- 2:00that and you just did you hear that or
- 2:02is that just something that she wasn't
- 2:04speaking
- 2:06okay then um
- 2:10after that um
- 2:12we called
- 2:14what mom called one of her friends
- 2:16and told him what was going on and then
- 2:19they called chris and chris told them
- 2:21that she was um
- 2:24i don't remember where she said she was
- 2:26but she told he told her something
- 2:28completely different than what he told
- 2:29us
- 2:30okay you remember what that was exactly
- 2:32what it was and who was that friend i
- 2:34think it was cassie
- 2:36is that right
- 2:38um i think i talked to
- 2:40addie or it was this one between
- 2:42shanann's mom but he told schneiderlin
- 2:44and then when he told kathy and when he
- 2:46told i believe addie
- 2:49and then everybody he told different
- 2:51things and then about
- 2:53um
- 2:55about 40 minutes of doing stuff around
- 2:57the house
- 2:58what not around the house trying to get
- 3:00into the house
- 3:03i
- 3:04um
- 3:05figured while she's in there and she's
- 3:07unconscious
- 3:08uh because i've their limestone off
- 3:10before when i was dog sitting and it's a
- 3:12lot of alarm so i
- 3:14lift up the garage door so to trigger it
- 3:17and it triggered
- 3:18and then
- 3:19was disarmed
- 3:21okay oh so you looked at the garage door
- 3:23purposely to
- 3:24trigger the alarm yes okay
- 3:27i i lift it up purposely because i
- 3:29figured if she's asleep and kind of goes
- 3:31through the door yeah i would definitely
- 3:33wake her up okay
- 3:35and then she
- 3:36bet down at work so then me and mom
- 3:39uh chris called
- 3:41us and said to leave the house alone
- 3:45and also
- 3:46asked us to not call the cops or kick
- 3:48the door open or anything you said that
- 3:49over the phone yes you heard that
- 3:51yourself yes okay one second
- 3:54he called back and said that yes
- 3:57sorry could yes he did okay
- 4:01and then um after that
- 4:03um
- 4:05we proceeded we told uh we told him that
- 4:08we weren't there because we didn't want
- 4:09you know because we didn't know what was
- 4:11going on so we told we weren't there and
- 4:13we got in the car and went to the
- 4:15doctor's office
- 4:16to and we asked if
- 4:19they could uh tell us if she was there
- 4:22if she didn't showed up
- 4:24and
- 4:26mom told me mom went in and mom came out
- 4:29and told me that she didn't show up okay
- 4:32and then so um
- 4:35we drove back to the house
- 4:37um
- 4:39knocked down the door again and opened
- 4:41it and shouted chin in and their names
- 4:43to see if they were there
- 4:45called chris and he said he was already
- 4:47on his way by this time okay and this
- 4:49was about an hour ago give or take
- 4:52and he said he was still an hour out
- 4:54so then um
- 4:56um we decided to uh call the police okay
- 5:00and then your officer arrived
- 5:02and went around i did everything i did
- 5:05which is try to find a way into the
- 5:06house
- 5:07and
- 5:08then
- 5:10we open the door and through this like
- 5:12crack he
- 5:14shouted police department if anyone said
- 5:16no i'm in here please make yourself
- 5:18known
- 5:19two times and then close the door
- 5:22because nobody responded and about 45
- 5:25minutes later so it took us about two
- 5:28hours and a half to uh get there
- 5:30from the first from the first call you
- 5:32know okay it takes about 30 45 minutes
- 5:34from this work to get there okay
- 5:37and then
- 5:39um
- 5:40sorry he then um
- 5:43when he should appeal from the
- 5:45door
- 5:46he went to the garage
- 5:48and opened her car door
- 5:52for us too like because the police
- 5:54officer but we all looked at it
- 5:57and then he instantly booked it inside
- 5:59the house
- 6:00ran around the entire house inside and
- 6:02everything and then opened the front
- 6:04door and let us all in
- 6:06okay so officer conrad didn't go in with
- 6:08him at that point no because he um where
- 6:11because he said we have a right to
- 6:12report to him and we can he can't
- 6:14legally go inside the house unless he
- 6:16had permission because there was no
- 6:18signs of there was no signs of a fight
- 6:22or disturbance for him to be allowed to
- 6:24enter the home okay
- 6:28and then
- 6:29once he came around and opened the front
- 6:31door for us
- 6:32[Music]
- 6:34chris said he could come in
- 6:36and then
- 6:38they all went he they searched the main
- 6:41floor
- 6:42um
- 6:44no they went okay everybody went they
- 6:47went upstairs
- 6:49and chris was
- 6:51about
- 6:5210 feet ahead of everybody and i
- 6:53followed them upstairs
- 6:55and then when i came upstairs i
- 6:59figured something was up and something
- 7:00wasn't right so i
- 7:02instantly went over to the couch and
- 7:04started moving pillows and i found
- 7:05shanann's phone on the pellets okay if
- 7:08it worked over to the couch
- 7:10it's the first thing that i thought
- 7:12where would i hide something if it were
- 7:13missing
- 7:15and i figured that i had to hide it or
- 7:17something so i was going to go to the
- 7:19couch and i was going to go under the
- 7:21bed and that was going to go looking cc
- 7:23bells remember everything
- 7:25okay and the couch was just the closest
- 7:27thing
- 7:28so when you found it
- 7:30under the pillows you said yeah
- 7:33so we're on the couch okay
- 7:35um
- 7:38do me a favor
- 7:40i mean i know what it looks like i just
- 7:41want you to
- 7:42draw the couch for me
- 7:44and then how it would be situated in the
- 7:46room you don't have to be an artist but
- 7:48just put the best here
- 7:51overhead video so here's there
- 7:55that's the centerpiece and this is the l
- 7:57couch
- 7:59okay
- 8:00and then
- 8:01here's where their tv and setup foot and
- 8:03everything would be sure the stairs will
- 8:05be here
- 8:10this would be
- 8:11cece's room i think it is okay and then
- 8:14this would be
- 8:16bella's room
- 8:17and i came up the stairs from here
- 8:20and the phone was uh right here
- 8:23underneath the pillows
- 8:25okay that were all that are all set up
- 8:27along the couch
- 8:29so was it is this laying underneath the
- 8:31pillow like in between two pillows or it
- 8:33was it had about maybe three or four
- 8:36pillows like on top of it like laying
- 8:38flat they were pushed and positioned
- 8:41back up to where like like normally they
- 8:44would normally be
- 8:46okay
- 8:47and i moved them and then because i
- 8:49started just moving them and about once
- 8:51i got
- 8:53moved these ones which there was about
- 8:54two then i got to maybe around here
- 8:57so maybe a foot into the couch and then
- 8:59i saw her from the corner of the phone
- 9:00and i reached out from under the pedal
- 9:02and grabbed it okay
- 9:04was it face down or face up
- 9:06it was you remember facebook please
- 9:10if you don't know that's okay i don't
- 9:12know okay
- 9:13can i add something
- 9:15the whole weekend she has one of those
- 9:17little things on this one i don't know
- 9:18if it's still on there but
- 9:20you know it was like a clutch so she
- 9:21could wear it on her wrist because
- 9:22normally she has one of these on it okay
- 9:24and it broke or whatever so she had one
- 9:26too that like when she held it to take
- 9:28pictures or she dropped it
- 9:30and i don't remember that being on it
- 9:32when we did it so
- 9:33it wasn't on it it was taken off okay
- 9:36um
- 9:37would you call it a clutch
- 9:39like a lanyard
- 9:44um and then
- 9:45after i pulled the phone out
- 9:48and
- 9:49looked at it and then
- 9:51um
- 9:52said i found her phone and
- 9:55chris said thanks and i remember handing
- 9:57and chris put his hand down said thanks
- 9:59because he wanted me to give it to him
- 10:02and i remember handing it to the officer
- 10:04and it wouldn't did and the officer
- 10:06couldn't do anything but so he handed it
- 10:08to chris
- 10:09and then
- 10:10um
- 10:11the officer asked if he could open it
- 10:13and figure it and see if she like texted
- 10:15somebody
- 10:16if she left and then chris um
- 10:18didn't know the password was acting like
- 10:21he didn't and then um
- 10:24he tried i think it was the baby's
- 10:26um birthday
- 10:28dude
- 10:30and
- 10:30um it uh
- 10:32then it opened and he tried that
- 10:34he did that
- 10:36and did but did he know that why did he
- 10:38figure it out or did somebody tell him
- 10:41it was cassie homophone said try the
- 10:43baby's birthday
- 10:44so he was
- 10:50yeah because they were telling me places
- 10:52to look for stuff that i may not have
- 10:53thought of okay
- 10:55and then um after that i um
- 10:58they started going through the phone and
- 11:00um
- 11:01i didn't want to go through anything
- 11:02else because if they were somewhere in
- 11:04the house i didn't want to go through
- 11:06stuff in front of chris
- 11:08so i um i went to the basement and i
- 11:11went through
- 11:13pretty much i looked under the beds
- 11:14looked i opened they had like a pantry i
- 11:17opened that i opened i don't know why
- 11:19but i opened the regular freezers and i
- 11:22just opened everything down there that i
- 11:24could have
- 11:26thought of yeah and then um
- 11:28i didn't find anything so i went back
- 11:30upstairs to the main
- 11:32um
- 11:34the main floor and i looked around and
- 11:35there was nothing and they all came
- 11:37downstairs and then i went upstairs and
- 11:40um
- 11:41pretty much look i looked in all the
- 11:43closets the rooms under the beds um the
- 11:46restrooms pretty much everything didn't
- 11:48see anything yeah did you want your
- 11:50bedroom i did okay see anything in there
- 11:52at all um
- 11:54the bed was stripped which
- 11:56mattered because i babysat the kid's eye
- 11:59dog sat for him
- 12:01and everything and that that i've never
- 12:03seen not have stuff on it it's always
- 12:06had okay she's on it
- 12:09and they've always kept their room in
- 12:12pretty good shape and the sheets have
- 12:13never been on the pool and pedals were
- 12:15never on the floor and when i walked in
- 12:16there the pillows
- 12:18what time you were or are the sheets
- 12:19where
- 12:20the like the computer
- 12:32[Music]
- 12:38do you remember what the sheets look
- 12:39like
- 12:40i think they were
- 12:41white and
- 12:43blue striped okay
- 12:49after that i
- 12:50uh walked out of the i walked downstairs
- 12:54and walked out of the house and
- 12:56i was out by the car for a little bit
- 12:59and um
- 13:01the neighbor
- 13:04excuse me um this neighbor um
- 13:08came out through his front door and
- 13:10looked at me and um
- 13:12he said he has a camera that sees
- 13:14everything
- 13:15in their drive through um
- 13:18thought we'd like to come look at it and
- 13:20i said yeah so i went over there and
- 13:22looked at
- 13:23the footage and then we saw chris's
- 13:25truck back up to the garage to where he
- 13:28kind of see the back of the truck
- 13:31and uh let me back up real quick
- 13:34[Music]
- 13:43we were both in the backyard and i was
- 13:45falling out
- 13:50[Music]
- 14:00in the backyard looking around and he
- 14:01asked for him was okay and i said
- 14:02shanann's missing
- 14:04and asked to be i asked him if you'd
- 14:05seen her and he said no which is
- 14:07something strange
- 14:11[Music]
- 14:12that's how he you know what happened
- 14:16and um
- 14:17then he said then i don't know what the
- 14:19conversation was but he uh
- 14:22we in essence told him what was going on
- 14:24i did told him what was happening and
- 14:26then he said okay and then we all pretty
- 14:28much went back to the front of the house
- 14:30and waited for chris
- 14:32and then
- 14:33after went through and searched and
- 14:34everything then he told me that he has a
- 14:37camera that sees everything so we
- 14:39i believe it was me and the officer went
- 14:41into the house
- 14:42and um
- 14:44went into the neighbor's house and
- 14:45watched the footage because
- 14:47at that point i was really curious and
- 14:49wanted to know what that was happening
- 14:51because
- 14:52and
- 14:54then
- 14:56we
- 14:57watched the footage and um chris saw us
- 14:59go in there so then chris
- 15:01followed us in
- 15:03and we had his um as we were watching it
- 15:05once we saw his truck back up and he was
- 15:08um
- 15:09you could tell he was faring something
- 15:11back and forth to his truck he uh kept
- 15:13going like this
- 15:15and getting in front of the uh
- 15:17[Music]
- 15:18the view of the tv to try and prevent it
- 15:21looked like he was trying to prevent me
- 15:23and the
- 15:24officer from seeing the upper left
- 15:26corner of the screen
- 15:28and um
- 15:29almost praying for me because i had to
- 15:31move over about a foot and look over the
- 15:33officer's shoulder to see what was
- 15:34happening because he kept moving over so
- 15:36i couldn't see it
- 15:38okay and then um
- 15:40after watching that we walked that i
- 15:42walked out and the officer watched a few
- 15:44more times and called you
- 15:47and um then mom walked in and watched it
- 15:49and i went outside with uh madison that
- 15:52baby and um
- 15:56then um after that um
- 15:59you showed up and then
- 16:02that was um i went back in and with the
- 16:04tape a few more times
- 16:06and then we um
- 16:09then i went the neighbor looked at me
- 16:10and told me to go inside and see like
- 16:12look carefully for anything that's like
- 16:14been combed or any like red spots or
- 16:17anything in case something did happen
- 16:19so i went inside and looked around and
- 16:21that's when i came back out to you and
- 16:23said that i
- 16:24um
- 16:25thought i saw that
- 16:27plan yeah right on the plan yeah
- 16:30and
- 16:32then
- 16:33after that
- 16:35i believe you and the officer went in
- 16:38with chris and looked around for a
- 16:40little bit and then um
- 16:44i believe after that it's a little
- 16:46blurred my father i think after that you
- 16:49came out and said that
- 16:50you guys will investigate it and then we
- 16:54mean
- 16:55me mom and uh madison i put madison or
- 16:58car seat and we all got in the car and
- 16:59left and then
- 17:01um sandy's mom
- 17:03i mean not sandy's mom shannon's mom
- 17:05sandy yeah
- 17:07um carl nicki and asked for uh nikki to
- 17:10go back and give
- 17:12the neighbor
- 17:14frank's phone number
- 17:17which uh we then drove back and did
- 17:20and um
- 17:22and then uh after she did that
- 17:24um she came back to the car and uh we
- 17:27all got in the car we left i went home
- 17:29and
- 17:30like
- 17:31okay okay very good um
- 17:34that's good and detailed i appreciate
- 17:36that
- 17:36um
- 17:38did it seem like chris
- 17:40did did he it seemed like to you or he
- 17:42didn't even have prior knowledge either
- 17:44one of you at this point um that he knew
- 17:46that camera was there yeah yeah before
- 17:49before that day so he was very well
- 17:51aware of the camera yeah
- 17:52i didn't know i had no idea the camera
- 17:54was there he finally admitted that the
- 17:56camera was there too if he knew it was
- 17:58there because he said uh to the guy that
- 18:00he uh
- 18:02would ask the neighbor a lot to look at
- 18:04the footage because to see if somebody
- 18:07was trying to break into this prior
- 18:09prior to that okay
- 18:12okay
- 18:14so you get the camera there okay
- 18:18all right so there's a lot of the stuff
- 18:20i already know i just
- 18:21need you to say it you know so i'm
- 18:23probably getting used to this but this
- 18:25one i'm sure you are
- 18:36okay very good so
- 18:40that's a good recount of what happened
- 18:41that um
- 18:43keeps me from asking a lot of questions
- 18:45because
- 18:46it's pretty counted can you do me a
- 18:48favor and just sign and date that for me
- 18:54i always smoke because they don't teach
- 18:55them how they don't signature another
- 18:57you know
- 18:58you know i'm so good yeah
- 19:01we had to teach them how to write like a
- 19:03signature because i'm like no you don't
- 19:04let me
- 19:06that's right
- 19:09[Music]
- 19:26[Music]
- 19:35okay great
- 19:37okay and then you said this is the phone
- 19:39right
- 19:40uh yeah the phone was
- 19:41about from here to here what is this
- 19:44that's where it was about a foot into it
- 19:47where i found the phone so this is the
- 19:49phone yeah over around this area try to
- 19:51matter about and put in okay i'm just
- 19:53going to write on here
- 19:54that that is the phone
- 20:00with that yep
- 20:07[Music]
- 20:18it was just like a black strap
- 20:21like like yours but black like this like
- 20:23that yeah and then it would like i don't
- 20:25know if it
- 20:26hooked into like where the that's
- 20:28something
- 20:29on that i feel in case it had uh it was
- 20:32a it's designed to have that it had uh
- 20:35holes around the corners oh seeing this
- 20:37doctor you can put straps through it
- 20:40okay all right good
- 20:43okay do you have any questions for me
- 20:46no i didn't know if you needed i called
- 20:48them up the message for um which review
- 20:50was the
- 20:52cdi that i talked to
- 20:54i have an app on my phone called fly360
- 20:57so it's like i can show it to you yeah
- 21:00it
- 21:01tells you exactly like when i wrote the
- 21:03house
- 21:04to what points i go to so like it
- 21:05happens taking off in arizona and the
- 21:07top seat of the airplane was taking off
- 21:09and then we landed in denver
- 21:10and then me leaving the guy united
- 21:12driving to her house i don't know if
- 21:13that makes a
- 21:15um i think we've got we got that on film
- 21:18when you left when you dropped her off
- 21:20absolutely but
- 21:21um
- 21:23and then it just then it shows when you
- 21:24came back to the house the next day and
- 21:26all that yeah it shows you the doctor's
- 21:28office everything okay absolutely then
- 21:31is there any way you can download that
- 21:32or how does that work
- 21:34so i can't sit here i kept bothering her
- 21:36and saying mother do you have something
- 21:38that attracts you of where you meant
- 21:39that i can't take
- 21:41okay you can email those to me i know
- 21:43you probably have your card only just
- 21:45okay so he's you don't have to do it
- 21:46right now but if you yeah tonight if you
- 21:49think whenever it's convenient for you
- 21:50if you can just email me all those
- 21:51screenshots
- 21:53and then we pretty much have that
- 21:54timeline down but that definitely
- 21:56confirms it and especially the doctor
- 21:57and everything else so it can't hurt
- 22:00so i'm actually at the point of putting
- 22:03together a very detailed timeline of
- 22:05everything so
- 22:06okay and my name i i got married july
- 22:084th and we knew we were getting going on
- 22:11this dress and i didn't want to deal
- 22:12with the hole no no i get it so my name
- 22:14is yeah okay yeah okay
- 22:17i'm confused
- 22:21okay
- 22:24what's it called you said 360.
- 22:27life 360. yeah
- 22:31it's like a breadcrumb tracking
- 22:33basically kind of it's we do it because
- 22:36i my husband has a hard time telling me
- 22:38to work and i worry but he's in the car
- 22:40accident so okay it's he set it up to
- 22:43where it pains when i get to work and
- 22:44when my husband gets to work or when
- 22:46we're leaving
- 22:48playing with it so that he knows they're
- 22:51on the way home i need to stop doing
- 22:52whatever i'm doing
- 22:55wow you're starting to catch on to what
- 22:56i shot so many parameters
- 23:02[Music]
- 23:12okay
- 23:14so
- 23:15i know you know we're all watching
- 23:17what's going on
- 23:18there definitely is going to be a trial
- 23:21and all that right
- 23:22[Music]
- 23:23and i'm sure we'll all have to testify
- 23:26yeah absolutely yeah i don't see any way
- 23:28out of it
- 23:29and he is
- 23:31really trying to say that shane
- 23:34just
- 23:36that's the story
- 23:38so i mean autopsies will show that
- 23:40wasn't that like timeline
- 23:42i can't speak to anything with about the
- 23:44autopsy at all well no i know but that
- 23:46should autopsies don't necessarily give
- 23:49you a timeline
- 23:51um
- 23:53it didn't give you a causal manner yeah
- 23:56okay yeah
- 23:58sure you got over there
- 24:01something i've
- 24:02done
- 24:07yeah so um
- 24:10and obviously we won't have those
- 24:11results for quite some time you know the
- 24:13reports and
- 24:14those always take a little while
- 24:16because doctors they
- 24:18literally
- 24:20dissect the information that they got
- 24:22you know obtained right before they
- 24:24report on it to get
- 24:25as positive or as close to positive as
- 24:28they can
- 24:28[Music]
- 24:30but um things will come out and watch
- 24:32there's always
- 24:34people always you know
- 24:37and what do we i mean i know it's just a
- 24:39waiting game now
- 24:40but is there anything we can do for the
- 24:42police department
- 24:43thank you
- 24:44oh i mean
- 24:46just you just did that's the way they
- 24:48look at it so
- 24:50um i i can tell you personally
- 24:52i knew
- 24:54something was really wrong when i went
- 24:56out there and started officer coonrod
- 24:57which is why he called me
- 24:59and it's just a matter of you have to
- 25:01you have to do certain things
- 25:04and check off certain things before you
- 25:06do anything you know
- 25:07and then and there that that was
- 25:10i mean i i did too i just didn't want to
- 25:26or you know maybe this could have
- 25:28happened you know she just got this news
- 25:30so did she
- 25:32take off just to mess with his head or
- 25:35you know what i mean we have to kick off
- 25:36all that so that night that's why we had
- 25:38to we're sure or did she go on the field
- 25:40are we looking at murder suicide
- 25:42you know
- 25:43people have done crazy things
- 25:45so we put a drone in the air that night
- 25:47check all the fields in the area we had
- 25:49all the canvas out and then that night
- 25:54i already made the decision that if she
- 25:56has not returned by morning
- 25:58even if we had nothing else than what we
- 26:00got from the house was going to initiate
- 26:02a full-blown investigation right which
- 26:04is
- 26:05what i did
- 26:06and
- 26:07here we are so that's all it took yeah
- 26:11yeah because it's just it was it was too
- 26:13long too much too long right so
- 26:18he's a hard one to read
- 26:19you know he voiced him that way though
- 26:21yeah i mean he was always like friendly
- 26:24but
- 26:25obviously if that makes sense black line
- 26:28yeah
- 26:29i mean he played with the girls and he
- 26:30laughed and giggled with him like
- 26:33i mean you've seen videos he looked like
- 26:35he was
- 26:36an amazing father and he was i mean
- 26:40but i don't know what happened behind
- 26:42closed doors i mean
- 26:47i don't either that part of it i don't
- 26:48know
- 26:49we may never know the details of that
- 26:52right
- 26:53or even what happened
- 26:55you know that's all details
- 26:58who certainly did
- 27:00that's my job
- 27:04nice to have friends and cbi that are
- 27:06still helping with certain things so if
- 27:08you hear a few calls from whatever
- 27:10follow-up and
- 27:11they're still in it obviously this is a
- 27:13huge investigation for one detective
- 27:15there's no way i can do it alone
- 27:18so
- 27:19okay
- 27:21we're not talking to the media i did do
- 27:24the ones leading her to come home and
- 27:25then i did one
- 27:27yesterday which was stupid i thought
- 27:29they were actually gonna do what i asked
- 27:31them to which was just say
- 27:33like ask for a health and wellness check
- 27:36yeah call go check on your friends and
- 27:37family yeah and they didn't eat so yeah
- 27:41let me put your mistakes right
- 27:44so let me talk to them
- 27:46i won't i get that now
- 27:48they're very consistent though like is
- 27:50there a line between harassing
- 27:53yeah if you tell them stop calling me
- 27:54and they continue to do it then
- 27:57they just don't have the conversation
- 27:58with them at that anymore and they
- 27:59continue to bug you
- 28:01then they start calling even firestone
- 28:03right yeah yeah so just call firestone
- 28:05pd and
- 28:07and
- 28:07down so these guys will not stop
- 28:09harassing me and they can call them
- 28:11usually they'll back off pretty quick if
- 28:13you go to that level
- 28:14they don't want that so what about like
- 28:16and i know that this is probably
- 28:17irrelevant and it's
- 28:19not
- 28:20isn't really important but what about
- 28:22the people on
- 28:23this computer theories and all of that
- 28:26yeah i can tell you i've got thousands
- 28:28of those of you know like what people
- 28:31think how it happened that went all down
- 28:33oh yeah yeah so how involved that was i
- 28:36wasn't involved or oh yeah we know
- 28:38better than that so if anybody says
- 28:39anything like that
- 28:41i mean
- 28:42i'm not going to tell you what to do how
- 28:44to live your life but
- 28:46the further you stay away from media or
- 28:48social media regarding this the happier
- 28:50you're going to be
- 28:52just just i mean i'm not like i'm not
- 28:54responding to any of them good yeah i'm
- 28:56not whatever but i can just even reading
- 28:58them i can tell you is not good
- 29:01i don't read any of that my wife has
- 29:02told me that there's some articles that
- 29:04said that i've said some things but i
- 29:06don't talk to the media so i know i am i
- 29:08mean on the way here i got an email from
- 29:10somebody that posted something some
- 29:11article and they said they were
- 29:12apologizing because they're like now
- 29:14that we know more of the facts
- 29:15this wasn't what we didn't we misquoted
- 29:18and that they had retracted it my issue
- 29:20was on what was it friday night some of
- 29:22the pictures they were posting was my
- 29:24daughter in bella not melanche like i
- 29:26know that's a silly thing but
- 29:28yeah that's my daughter
- 29:31yeah yes
- 29:34yeah and i called him and said can you
- 29:36please take that picture off of your
- 29:37news article because that is
- 29:40bella and my daughter what's a channel
- 29:42that um that was fox 59 and then
- 29:46i don't know chat was it channel 7
- 29:48yeah and they they did they they took it
- 29:51down but i was like that's not okay like
- 29:54you're using pictures with people you
- 29:56don't even know anything about
- 29:58it's a really hard way to learn
- 30:00the lack of integrity in my opinion of
- 30:03the media that you're seeing firsthand
- 30:05so yeah
- 30:06that's
- 30:17again thank you for coming in i really
- 30:19appreciate it
- 30:20so
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