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Chris Watts: “Can I still breathe?” Kimberley: “Where is his off button?” Polygraph minus “like” Pt4 — Transcript

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0:01hi this is kimberly
0:03today's video is part 4 in a continuing
0:06break
0:06show i i mean series chris watts is
0:10sitting down in a private office where
0:12everything is being
0:13audio and video recorded he's finishing
0:16up the interview portion with cbi
0:18agent tammy lee then they will practice
0:21taking a polygraph test
0:23they will practice the actual test she
0:26runs them through it
0:27several times so if he does not
0:29misunderstand
0:30anything tammy already knows that
0:33bonehead
0:34tends to become bewildered easily and
0:37eventually they get into the real game i
0:40mean i mean
0:41they get into the real actual test
0:43itself
0:44what i'm doing is taking care of dunder
0:47head's statistical habit
0:49of uttering like his habit is unbounded
0:52you all know what i'm talking about as
0:54with the prior videos in this series
0:57i only left in the word like if it was
0:59part of a grammatically correct sentence
1:02scratch that i left that word in the
1:05audio clip of it was used loosely
1:08in the broadest sense of the word using
1:11the word
1:12like not as a filler word but it had to
1:14meet certain requirements
1:17there that's how i meant to say it it's
1:20not even the likes
1:21that he utters incessantly that get me
1:24about him
1:25the only thing really that i don't like
1:27about cw
1:29is that constant inhaling and exhaling
1:32[ __ ] habit he has
1:35tammy kept clearing her throat and at
1:37times i felt as though
1:39it was to unnerve crispr pudding head
1:43however i did crop out one of tammy's
1:46coughs
1:46that came through my earphones and broke
1:48my goddamn ear drum
1:50you're welcome right before the
1:53polygraph
1:54actually it was when they did the first
1:56practice test
1:58and she said to him did any of these
2:00questions give you heartburn
2:03he got all lily-livered and [ __ ] and
2:05started throwing up likes all over the
2:07place
2:08those of course were deleted but you'll
2:10know when it happens
2:12he like just flipped [ __ ] out all of a
2:14sudden
2:15boom i had the most fun during this
2:18practice exercise
2:19when tammy was leading up to the actual
2:22test and he was just answering yes and
2:24no because
2:25i could enjoy his nervousness building
2:28up i knew he wouldn't be saying
2:30the like word yes i did have a
2:33nice little unprofessional chuckle over
2:37these things
2:38but i'm immature i've admitted it before
2:41and i'm fine with it bert brain asked on
2:44two separate occasions
2:46if it was okay for him to breathe no
2:49[ __ ] quit breathing
2:50this instant and even though agent tammy
2:54assured him yes he should continue
2:56breathing
2:57he forgot how to breathe and ask her in
3:00the middle of the real test
3:01should i breathe through my nose or my
3:04mouth
3:05am i allowed to breathe no [ __ ]
3:08[ __ ] stop breathing for pete's sake
3:11how many years did it take you to learn
3:13how to take breaths through your [ __ ]
3:14nose and pie hole
3:16weren't you like when you were born like
3:19drawing air
3:20into and like expelling air out of
3:24like your lungs you know what [ __ ] has
3:27just to just [ __ ] you know what i you
3:30know what dunderhead just [ __ ]
3:32expire already since a moderate amount
3:35of time was cut
3:37because i did spare you most of the dead
3:40silence i do have an
3:41unexpected treat to present instead of
3:44reinventing the wheel
3:46i'm just gonna play a small portion of
3:49this video for you
3:50it's from a few months back and i'll
3:53give my mouth the rest
3:55you'll still hear me hammering but this
3:57is from
3:58as i said a previous video that i did
4:01i will just put it in right here
4:06before we get started i want to share an
4:09alarming video i
4:10uncovered a [ __ ] eating his own ear
4:13wax
4:14yes i'm not kidding i was like no
4:18someone is pulling our leg but no watch
4:21i will link the channel that i got it
4:23from i'm not sure if they were the first
4:25to
4:25discover this and i shaved it down just
4:28so you see the
4:29unsettling revolting and stomach turning
4:32parts
4:33i usually skipped over those parts where
4:35he was just sitting there with his own
4:37dimwitted mind
4:38maybe we should go back and study all of
4:41these bits but now that i've apologized
4:43to miss lena
4:44and shown that christian [ __ ] really is
4:47an earwax eating piss face
4:49let's go on with the chapter again it's
4:51called exploitation
4:53entitlement empathy impairments those
4:56terms will come into play later on
4:58go ahead and get your pajamas on a snack
5:01and a beverage of your choice
5:03go on i'll wait i'll not do any whining
5:06and bitching
5:07or enter into a state of going off
5:09fitness without you we have a lot to
5:11cover
5:12ready ready okay oh my god this was a
5:16longest hell chapter
5:18and it was tedious there was too much
5:21information details and explanations
5:24my head was just full
5:28i didn't really care to learn about all
5:30kinds of mental illness
5:32just the one that [ __ ] face has
5:38did you like it i knew you would
5:41i i if you're throwing up
5:45go put it on pause and then come right
5:48back and
5:49join us when when you've had
5:52a rest and some alka-seltzer but
5:56i took out the mind numbing silences and
5:59only that other than the like word of
6:02course
6:02just because that's not part of this
6:05exercise
6:06or experiment whatever it's called that
6:08i'm doing here with these videos
6:10i'm a free spirit and a former flower
6:13child of the 1960s
6:16so i don't like labeling everything
6:19we are here simply to hear cw
6:22puddin heads part of the conversation
6:25without his likes peppering it
6:27and i i just want to hear what he was
6:30trying to convey
6:32speak he speak lead me i'll follow
6:36like that and full disclosure i wasn't
6:39really a flower
6:40child i asked my parents and they said
6:43no
6:44they weren't free spirits such as myself
6:46so
6:47i told them that when i grow up i'm
6:49going to be a go-go dancer
6:51and i would be one of the ones that got
6:53to dance in a cage
6:54and i would wear all white and my boots
6:57would be white and of course
6:58with the high gloss finish patent
7:01leather
7:02you know what i'm talking about several
7:05long beaded necklaces that bounced up
7:08and down as i did my go go
7:10dancing my hair wouldn't move because it
7:13would be
7:13teased high up on my head and coated
7:16with several coats of lacquer
7:18also known as aqua net that ate a hole
7:21through the ozone layer and we're sorry
7:24about that
7:24i wasn't using it actually i was and my
7:27mother would try to brush my hair and go
7:30what is it about your hair it was hair
7:33spray
7:33back to my story so my hair wouldn't
7:36move because it would be teased up high
7:38on my head
7:39and sprayed with several coats of aqua
7:41net
7:42it wouldn't even move as i rode along
7:44the beach in a crowded
7:46top-down convertible with all of my
7:49friends
7:50and of course i would be sitting on top
7:52of the back seat
7:54so almost on the trunk part and drinking
7:57a soda out of a glass bottle which i
7:59would then sling into the ocean
8:01we didn't know about pollution back then
8:05i would throw my head back when i
8:07laughed and still my hair would not move
8:10even as we were on the beach and when i
8:12got done with those days
8:14i would be an airline stewardess it's
8:17against the law to say stewardess
8:19now you have to say flight attendant or
8:21something of that nature
8:23people have to be all pc and [ __ ] you
8:25didn't back then
8:27you could be and say all sorts of things
8:29that you can't now
8:31people get fired from their job or
8:34cancelled or divorced or
8:36all kinds of [ __ ] [ __ ] will just blow
8:38the [ __ ] up
8:40and you have to make comments and all
8:42that it's
8:43just too much everything's all
8:45complicated now
8:47at the end of this video if you so
8:49choose to stay tuned
8:51i'll show you a nice commercial that's
8:54really fun
8:55and will get my message across about my
8:58childhood dreams
9:00it's kind of embarrassing now but
9:04now i stay i would do it still my advice
9:08keep your [ __ ] trap shut continuing
9:10on with
9:11my dream as i would blossom into
9:14teenagehood and young adulthood since i
9:17couldn't be a [ __ ] flower child but i
9:20would live in a high-rise apartment
9:22building in new york
9:23all of that girl did y'all ever see that
9:26show that girl
9:27she was a model and lived in new york
9:29and bossed around her boyfriend that
9:31lived next door and
9:32they never ever ever spent the night
9:35with
9:36each other or even so much as kissed but
9:39anyway and my best friend would either
9:41share the apartment with me
9:43or live right next door she would
9:45naturally be a stewardess as well
9:48we would travel the world together and
9:50do fun and exotic things
9:52notice how i don't have kids or a mr
9:55kimberly saddling me down and
9:57making none of this possible nothing
10:00went the way i planned it and it was a
10:03much much different world when i
10:05graduated back in 1981.
10:07think of i want my mtv and cable news
10:11network was born oh it was much
10:14different back then
10:15suddenly we had 24-hour news
10:1824-hour music and then i blacked out
10:22there for a few years because i was
10:24raising babies
10:25i looked up and everything had changed
10:28once again
10:29goodness i floated away didn't i am
10:33so what i was saying before dreamy
10:36kimberly took me away
10:37can y'all tell i'm an air sign my oldest
10:41daughter
10:41informed me that i was an air sign i
10:44told her i was quite surprised that i'm
10:47not a water sign
10:48given how much i love the ocean she said
10:50no no
10:51no you're an air sign and you act just
10:54like an air
10:54sign after pinning her down and pressing
10:57her further and
10:58making all kinds of threats she finally
11:00spit it out that
11:01mom your head is always always in the
11:05clouds
11:06i let go of her okay fair enough then i
11:09slammed off to bed goddamn
11:11and i honestly did not mean to
11:13physically restrain her
11:16please let me wrap this up i i have a
11:19scratchy throat from all the pollen
11:21outside and
11:22i keep coughing and [ __ ] and you all
11:24wanna hear the video i know and
11:27i'll shut up now but to make a long
11:29story short
11:30let's just say i took out the long
11:33silent breaks
11:34in between tammy's questions to pinhead
11:37i'm here just to remove the likes and
11:40just to remove the long
11:42boring pauses and i don't want y'all
11:45getting all
11:45impatient and [ __ ] and clicking out of
11:48the video
11:48so that's why i did it either during my
11:51intro here
11:52if you're listening to it and thank you
11:54bless your heart if you are
11:56or if you're just here to hear that part
11:58of the video and like if there was a
12:00bunch of long pauses
12:02people might leave and of course i can't
12:05my
12:05algorithm can't handle that okay
12:08there i did it much love and peace i
12:11mean that
12:12you'll complete me thank you for
12:15watching
12:16now it's the last thing you saw her was
12:18when she was laying in bed when she was
12:19alive and kind of having makeup run down
12:22her face obviously that wouldn't be
12:24you wouldn't know where she is right
12:25because obviously right now we can't
12:26find her
12:27does that make sense to you do all those
12:29questions make sense to you
12:31so what what would you answer to all of
12:33those questions
12:34i had nothing to do with what's going on
12:38right now did not physically harm her
12:39okay i did last time i saw her
12:44was in bed laying on her side
12:47with some mascara on her face after we
12:50had a conversation
12:52and i do not know where she is right now
12:56okay those are them yeah okay so you
12:58nailed them perfectly
13:00um who do you think would have hurt
13:03shannon and the girl
13:05like who do you think would have done
13:06something to them honestly
13:08we've exhausted every option that we
13:10have of people that know
13:12like even if it's kind of crazy like
13:13what is your one go-to
13:16like thought about what could have
13:18happened that
13:20it's somebody i don't know and i don't
13:22know who they are or what they're about
13:24and that they have her and the kids and
13:26that
13:27they're not safe right now and that
13:29they've been physically hurt
13:32so obviously like i said we kind of have
13:35to
13:36expect the worst and hope for the best
13:38um
13:39if we do end up finding your wife and
13:41your two girls murdered
13:43what do you think should happen to that
13:45person that would have done that
13:49the worst possible thing like what
13:53and either going to be life in prison or
13:56the death penalty isn't it
13:57that's only two things you really can do
14:02that's the only thing really is that
14:03that's the only talent that you have
14:05are there some people that are like well
14:06i'm sure that person's really screwed up
14:08and
14:08maybe they deserve some you know
14:12yeah i just know because it's my
14:15my wife and my kids so from a neutral
14:17perspective and i'd be different
14:19that's my wife and kids do you know
14:22anything else about
14:24i mean is there anything you haven't
14:25told detectives that you want to share
14:26with us today
14:28i mean we've exhausted every option of
14:30trying to reach out to friends and
14:32family that may have
14:33seen her or heard from her so
14:36we have nothing really else to go off of
14:39right now as far as
14:40who could have her or where she could be
14:42okay
14:45um i'm gonna have you take a bathroom
14:47break
14:48we've been in here quite a while i need
14:50one as well
14:51um let me find out which bathroom you're
14:53actually supposed to use hopefully one
14:55of them will come in here and help us
14:57figure out which bathroom and then we're
14:58going to come back in here and then
15:00again i'm going to tell you how and why
15:01the polygraph works and we're just going
15:02to get kind of into the testing
15:04and that's cool with you okay because
15:05you already know what the questions are
15:07that i care about
15:08so okay all right so let me see if
15:10someone can
15:21why don't you um i'll just take you out
15:22to the lobby and then i'll try to sit
15:24right there real quick and then i'll
15:25come grab you please this here oh you
15:27can take it with you whatever
15:29throw in your pockets wow
15:35how's it going gatorade objective are
15:38you sure
15:51don't start now right
15:54you have any bad habits uh i used to
15:58oreos and soda were my
16:00my go-to during the pregnancy yeah
16:04what kind of subject did you like
16:18that's where it was that's right stay
16:21quesadilla and
16:22not do about how blast is my go-to uh
16:26let's go over the questions that are
16:27going to be on the test is that cool
16:28with you yeah just so you know the works
16:30that all the questions
16:31and there's no surprises and that kind
16:33of stuff okay
16:34and then am i allowed to breathe like
16:36during this yeah i'll explain all of
16:38that to you
16:38it's um you're obviously still a person
16:41and you still have
16:42functions that have to go on for you to
16:44be alive so
16:45yes you have to you'll be able to
16:47breathe and we just don't want you to
16:48move a bunch
16:50there's a test and i'll explain that to
16:51you and it's for very short periods of
16:53time and
16:54i have no doubt being a healthy guy like
16:56you are that you'll have no problem
16:57doing that
16:58okay
17:02i've had like 15 year old boys up to
17:04like 85 year old men that
17:06are able to sit still just during the
17:08polygraph so all right i have no doubt
17:10someone like you is
17:12more than able to say spell okay okay so
17:15we're going to go over the questions
17:16that are going to be on the test like i
17:17said i'm going to tell you every single
17:18question there's not a question i'm just
17:20going to add
17:21you know for the thrill of it or
17:22anything like that you're going to know
17:23all the work so
17:24the first question that's going to be on
17:26the test is going to be regarding
17:27shanann's disappearance
17:29do you intend to answer all the
17:30questions truthfully yes
17:32okay and you're only going to get to
17:34answer yes or no to these questions okay
17:36oh okay so it's easy because you know
17:40there should be no question in your mind
17:42whether you need to answer yes or no to
17:43the questions okay
17:45um so the first uh relevant question
17:47that i'm going to ask
17:48um that we had already gone over is
17:50going to be did you physically cause
17:52shanann's disappearance
17:53no are you lying about the last time you
17:57shot you saw shanann
17:58no and i'm saying her name right yep
18:01right okay
18:02and then do you know where shenan is now
18:04no okay so those are the three that we'd
18:06already discussed before
18:07right so physically causing someone's
18:09disappearance is
18:11either you know obviously harming them
18:12to the point where they
18:14you know are either dead or can no
18:16longer function out you know maybe you
18:18left them for dead you know in some
18:20field somewhere or something like that
18:22um so maybe they weren't actually
18:24deceased but you know that you would
18:26have been the
18:26direct cause of their disappearance okay
18:28so that makes sense yeah
18:29okay and then obviously lying about the
18:32last things are
18:34that would be because maybe you helped
18:35someone or you did it yourself or
18:37something like that
18:38and then you helped dispose of them or
18:39put them somewhere or lock them up
18:41somewhere or whatever
18:42okay and then uh
18:45knowing where she is now again that
18:47would be either some kind of direct
18:48knowledge like you either saw
18:50you did it you know where you put them
18:52or someone told you where they are or
18:54something like that or if shane
18:56called you and said this is where i'm at
18:57but you haven't told the police that
18:59that kind of stuff okay does that make
19:01sense
19:02okay so you're going to be taking what's
19:05called a directed lie
19:06polygraph so what that means is they're
19:08going to be test questions on the test
19:09where i want you to lie
19:12because i want to see what your body
19:13looks like when you tell a lie on the
19:15test
19:15okay i know it seems kind of weird but
19:17you're going to know which questions
19:18these are and they're going to be easy
19:19to answer
19:21so it's going to be like they're all
19:23going to start with before
19:242018 so this first one is before 2018
19:28did you ever lose your temper with
19:29someone you cared about
19:31we've all lost our temper which i've
19:32always cared about in our life
19:34so i want you to think about you don't
19:35have to tell me what it is but i want
19:37you to actually
19:38have that moment in your mind when you
19:40actually lost your temper which one you
19:42cared about
19:43okay whether it was your chin whether it
19:45was with your parents whether it was
19:46with your children
19:47i mean it could be with anyone but it
19:49was you don't need to say no
19:51to that one yes you're gonna actually
19:53lie to that question since we all have
19:54lost our temper with someone we've cared
19:56about
19:57before so i'm gonna say before 2018 did
20:00you ever lose your temper with someone
20:01you cared about and you're gonna say
20:03no because you're telling uh why awesome
20:06the next one of those because there's
20:08only three of those the next one's going
20:09to be before 2018. remember it's all
20:11going to start with that
20:12before 2018. if you ever hear the the
20:15test that is your clue to go
20:16crap this is a question i have to lie to
20:18on the test okay okay
20:20so this one's going to be before 2018
20:22did you ever see anything out of anger
20:24to a loved one
20:26it's going to be well we've all said
20:28something out of anger to the last one
20:30but
20:30i want you to take a minute and actually
20:32think of a time when you've actually
20:34said something out of anger to a loved
20:36one you have something in your head
20:40yeah okay and i want you to actually
20:42think of that
20:43when you answer this question on the
20:44test okay so again before 2018 did you
20:47ever see
20:48anything out of anger to a loved one
20:49you're going to say no because you're
20:51telling us
20:52awesome the last one is before 2018 have
20:55you ever wanted to hurt someone to get
20:57even with them
20:58not that you actually heard them but
21:00that maybe they pissed you off so bad
21:02you know that you were like oh i can
21:03punch that guy in the face right now or
21:05you know whatever not that you actually
21:06ended up even hurting anyone
21:08but that you ever thought about hurting
21:10someone to get even with them
21:12so i want you to take a moment and think
21:13about a time
21:15and just make sure that you do have
21:17something in your head
21:20okay is that it so when i ask you this
21:22question on the test before 2018 have
21:25you ever wanted to hurt someone to be
21:26even with them you're going to say
21:28no because you're telling us awesome
21:31uh the next questions are that are what
21:33we call known truth questions they're
21:35going to be really easy to answer so
21:36it's going to be
21:37is your first name christopher yes
21:40good were you born in 1985 yes are you
21:43now in the state of colorado
21:45yes are you now sitting down yes
21:47otherwise i'll in this room
21:49yes do you understand that i will only
21:52ask you the questions we have discussed
21:54that's the last question okay so we just
21:57went through every single question on
21:58the test
21:59okay so the only questions that you'll
22:01hear come out of my mouth
22:03okay so let me go through those one more
22:04time and you just say yes or no how you
22:06would answer them on the test okay
22:08okay regarding shanann's disappearance
22:11do you intend to answer all the
22:13questions truthfully
22:14yes uh did you physically caution and's
22:16disappearance
22:18no are you lying about the last time you
22:20saw shanann
22:21no do you know where shannan is now no
22:25before 2018 did you ever lose your
22:27temper which one you cared about
22:29no before 2018 did you ever see anything
22:32out of anger to a loved one
22:34no before 2018 have you ever wanted to
22:37hurt someone to get even with them
22:39no okay is your first name christopher
22:42yes
22:42were you born in 1985 yes are you now in
22:46the state of colorado
22:47yes are you now sitting down yes
22:50are the lights down in this room yes do
22:53you understand
22:54that i'll only ask you the questions
22:55that we have discussed
22:57yes okay that's it any of those
23:00questions give you any heartburn or
23:02make you go well oh
23:05my heart's kind of still nervous this
23:08whole
23:08right right and this is not a like
23:11process that where you shouldn't be
23:12nervous so
23:13that is to be expected that's totally
23:15fine and like i told you before that's
23:17not going to cause you to
23:18fail the test or anything like that
23:19because no one would take the test if
23:21that's what it went off of okay
23:23okay that's just this is what i feel
23:26right now
23:27i don't know did you do any research on
23:28polygraph no like that okay
23:30i don't all i know when i when i see it
23:33on tv
23:33all i see is you know this right here
23:36and then that
23:38that you just judge it off your heart
23:40rate or what
23:41what is the deal yeah and i'll explain
23:43all those components that
23:44i'm going to put on you so i mean i came
23:46in here my heart it's going in my
23:47million miles a minute and it's it
23:49hasn't stopped yeah
23:50so and you'll notice too that um
23:53the second the second i put all the
23:56components on you
23:57that's when it really feels like oh [ __ ]
23:59just got real like that's just
24:01everyone has that oh [ __ ] moment right
24:03when everything gets attached because
24:05then you're like oh crap so i promise i
24:09i will get you through this okay
24:12this one's back have you um
24:16ever been pulled over before yes i
24:18picked it
24:19i had a mustang oh i bet you're pulled
24:22over a lot
24:23alright okay so i kind of explained
24:26polygraph in a way that makes the most
24:27sense to me so i'm i just assume that
24:29makes the most sense to other people
24:30okay
24:31so just bear with me i like to ask
24:33people um
24:35about a time that they got pulled over
24:37you know um
24:38and how they felt when they realized
24:40they were getting pulled over by the
24:41police you know that moment when
24:42you're crushing a hill you see a cop on
24:44the side of the road or
24:46um you can go around the corner there's
24:47a cop there or all of a sudden you see
24:49friends with flashing lights in the very
24:51mirror
24:51and i usually ask people i'm like just
24:53describe how you felt when you realized
24:54you were getting pulled over by the
24:55police
24:56it's kind of like right right now i feel
24:58you know most people have the
24:59heart beating out of the chest they kind
25:01of start hyperventilating some people
25:03get mad some people get sad
25:04well all the things that are happening
25:06inside your body when you realize you're
25:07getting
25:08pulled over by the police are actually
25:09being regulated by your autonomic
25:11nervous system
25:12okay excuse me it kind of sounds like
25:14automatic because that's basically what
25:15it is whenever your brain senses that
25:17you're in a stressful or threatening
25:18situation
25:19it automatically kicks in these
25:20physiological changes inside your body
25:22because it thinks it needs to help keep
25:24you alive okay have you heard of fight
25:26flight or freeze before
25:27so excuse me chris you're walking in the
25:30woods you hear a bare ground you're
25:31either going to fight the barrier in the
25:32freezer you're going to run away
25:33right kind of your brain going you're an
25:35overload right now you can't really
25:36process what's happening
25:37so i'm going to give you three options
25:39to help keep you alive okay
25:41so a lot of people are like what the
25:42hell does that have to do with telling a
25:43lie
25:44well i'm sure you would agree from a
25:45very young age your father taught you
25:48you know that's wrong to lie cheat or
25:50steal would you agree with that
25:52and that there's consequences when you
25:54lie to your skill would you agree with
25:55that
25:56yes so if i ask you a question chris and
25:58i say did you do whatever
26:00and the word no comes down to your mouth
26:02your brain will automatically sense that
26:03as a stressful
26:04or threatening situation because it
26:06knows there's consequences with that lie
26:08you just told
26:09the severity of it really doesn't matter
26:11to your brain i mean
26:12you could get grounded friday night or
26:13you could spend the rest of your life in
26:14prison
26:15your brain really can't really
26:17differentiate between the severity of
26:18the consequence it just knows holy cow
26:20you told the lie there's consequences
26:22with those lies and it starts those same
26:24physiological changes inside your body
26:26okay the same things that were happening
26:27when you heard the bare ground in the
26:28woods and the same things that were
26:29happening when you realized you were
26:30getting pulled over by the police okay
26:32so the awesome thing about the polygraph
26:34is i get to measure what's going on
26:35inside your body
26:36when you're answering questions on the
26:38test okay and i do that by attaching
26:40these components to you okay and i'll
26:43explain those
26:44um here in just a minute and i've
26:46already told you on the touch like
26:47you're gonna have questions on the test
26:48where i know you're telling a truth
26:50like is your name chris first name
26:51christopher um and i have questions on
26:53the touch where i know you're telling a
26:55lie
26:55about hurting never seeing anything hurt
26:57a loved one or you know those types of
26:58questions
27:00so i get to see what your body looks
27:02like on the inside when i know you're
27:03telling the truth
27:04and i know you're telling a lie and then
27:05i get to compare that to the relevant
27:06questions about
27:08the um if you physically cause shenan's
27:10disappearance
27:11uh if you're are you lying about the
27:12last thing you saw and if you know where
27:14she is now
27:15and i get to compare those to those
27:16questions does that make sense to you
27:18yeah i felt i don't know this was uh the
27:20heart
27:21the heartbeat thing that's the only
27:22thing that i thought it was mentioned
27:23about
27:24no it just so you know like a lot of
27:26people are like well my heart's beating
27:27out of my chest
27:29you are your own baseline like i'm not
27:31comparing you against the guy i did last
27:33week
27:34or you know someone i did 10 months ago
27:38so if your heartbeat is up here that's
27:40just where you're at like that's your
27:42baseline for me today okay and then when
27:44you react
27:45you're just going to react up here
27:46someone who's a little more calm or
27:48you know maybe they you know they're you
27:51know their hearts obviously not beating
27:52as fast they're going to be their
27:53baseline's maybe going to be down here
27:55but they're going to have that same
27:56reaction does that make sense so
27:58you're both going to have the same
27:59reaction you're just going to have
28:00different base lines
28:01okay so i'm going to explain you the
28:03components as i'm putting them on
28:04because i think it makes the most sense
28:06but i do need to kind of move your chair
28:07a little bit
28:08and i'm going to actually have you can
28:10can we
28:11set these down on the floor like next to
28:13you is that cool
28:14move your water just a little bit just
28:16because i'm going to put your arm up
28:17here
28:19and you can have a feet back so the
28:22first thing that we're going to put on
28:24chris is these are called pneumograph
28:25tubes okay the blue one's going to go
28:27kind of down by your belly the silver
28:29one goes up a little higher underneath
28:30your armpits okay these are going to
28:32measure involuntary movements in your
28:33chest cavity during the test okay
28:35so what i need you to do is put your
28:36hands together like you're dying in a
28:38swimming pool
28:38put your wrist on top of your head on
28:40top of your head that's okay
28:42and then just lean forward slightly so
28:44you're back off the back of the chair
28:45perfect and i'll try not to last the
28:47other side if any time like this feels
28:49too tight or whatever just let you know
28:51okay
28:52and i can adjust it for you pretty
28:54skinny though so
28:55i want to make sure it's not going to
28:56fall down too far put your hands up i'm
28:58going to do the silver one
28:59it feels like it's too late okay okay
29:03okay so the next thing we use
29:06um you can put your hands on i'm sorry
29:08chris is a blood pressure cuff
29:10um this is the same kind of blush blood
29:12pressure cup you would find in a
29:13doctor's office
29:14obviously they're trying to get your
29:16blood pressure when you're in there i
29:17use this to measure the rate of blood
29:19flow through your body during the test
29:21um and we've actually found it's much
29:22more we get a much better reading if we
29:25put it on your calf instead of your arms
29:27are you okay if you put it on your calf
29:29so just go and put that like just
29:31don't start straight up in the air for
29:32me okay go ahead and put it down
29:34the only thing about doing it on the
29:36calf is we just have to make sure we
29:37don't step on it and it doesn't rub
29:39against the back which i think you'll be
29:40fine
29:41and just make sure we don't step on the
29:42cord okay yeah and then the last thing
29:44we use
29:45these are called electrodermal activity
29:48activity plates
29:48in layman's terms they're just going to
29:50measure your sweat gland activity during
29:51the test okay so that's why i need your
29:55arm maybe um i should scoot you back
29:59just a tad
30:00so good one okay just go ahead and
30:02spread your fingers out for me
30:04you can put them up just a little bit
30:06there you go did you know we used me
30:08okay uh i use this right that's usually
30:12all people see
30:14sometimes those the blood pressures and
30:16with these
30:17um like during the test the important
30:19thing about those is that we just want
30:20to just kind of
30:22leave your hand kind of dead on the
30:23table we don't want to push down we
30:25don't want to
30:25pull up anything like that so all your
30:27you're just going to be completely flat
30:29on the table and just kind of let your
30:30arm go limp and your hand gonna lift
30:32okay
30:32during the testing okay right now you
30:35can move around you can do
30:36you put it in your lap whatever it's not
30:38going to hurt it do you want
30:40some more water i'll be okay
30:44what's the matter the one the math
30:47that's the one oh
30:48sorry and we're going to discuss that so
30:50that's a motion sensor
30:53what that is does is obviously detect
30:55motion
30:56and movement in your body so that's how
30:58important it will be that you remain
30:59completely still during the testing
31:02if you move your little toe i mean as
31:04you know it's lifting weights and stuff
31:06everything happens from your core
31:07you move your little toe obviously it's
31:09going to register on my
31:10on my seat pad so it's very very
31:13sensitive so that's how important it's
31:14going to be that you remain completely
31:16still
31:16sure
31:26like this i can breathe everything's
31:28good okay okay we're good
31:30i just want to make sure
31:34[Music]
31:44but
31:52so we're going to go over a pretest now
31:54and then i'll explain how i need you to
31:56feel and all that and then we'll get
31:57into the actual testing okay
31:59so this is what we call a directed live
32:02practice test okay and i'm going to move
32:05my chair over here so obviously you're
32:07directed by practice test kind of gives
32:09you a
32:10indication that i probably want you to
32:11lie on the practice steps
32:13i don't want you to lie yet i will tell
32:15you what at that point that i want you
32:17to lie okay
32:19how many numbers do you see on this
32:20piece of paper four which one's missing
32:22three i want you to write the number
32:24three on the line where it's missing
32:26okay
32:26okay you can use your right or your left
32:28hand are you right-handed or left-handed
32:30right okay pretty good
32:34okay so this is the director of my
32:38practice test so what that means is i'm
32:39gonna ask you
32:40if you wrote every single number on this
32:43piece of paper
32:44okay exactly i want you to be truthful
32:46to all the numbers but i want you to lie
32:48to when i ask you if you wrote the
32:49number three
32:50because you really did write the number
32:51three but i want you to say no that you
32:52did not
32:53i want you to like me okay so let's
32:56practice that
32:57regarding that number you wrote a piece
32:59of paper did you write the number one
33:02no did you write the number two no but
33:05did yours number three
33:07yes no i didn't no you're lying to that
33:10one
33:11that's okay all right did you write the
33:13number four no did you write the number
33:14five
33:15no okay so let's do that try that one
33:17more time okay regarding the number on
33:18the
33:19paper did you write the number one no
33:21did you write the number two
33:23no did you write the number three no
33:26it's good did you write the number four
33:27no did you write number five
33:29good so in essence you're saying no to
33:31every single number that i
33:32asked you about if you wrote but
33:34obviously you're lying when you say you
33:35didn't write the character because
33:36we just both watched you write the
33:38number three okay does that make sense
33:39to you
33:41okay so during the testing i'm going to
33:42leave this right here you need to look
33:44in the area of this clipboard you can't
33:46look side to side up down wherever chris
33:48wants to look
33:49you don't have to fix that on the number
33:51three but you're gonna be looking
33:52basically in this
33:53general area right here okay you do have
33:55to remain completely still
33:57there's no coughing belching sneezing
33:59sniffling
34:00anything like that during the test okay
34:02just breathe
34:03what's that just breathing just yes and
34:06you do breathe
34:07so it keeps you alive yes um
34:10so you need to remain a lot of people
34:13are like well i didn't know how to be
34:14like a statue you pretty much have to be
34:16still like a statue like i said it's for
34:17a very short period of time
34:19i will if for some reason i have to give
34:21you an instruction during the test like
34:23maybe you're moving your little finger
34:24and you don't even notice it because
34:26it's kind of like a little thing that
34:27you're doing and you don't really
34:29realize you're doing it
34:30just fix whatever asks you to fix and do
34:33not go
34:34oh my gosh i'm sorry do not apologize
34:36not move do not do anything
34:38i'll know already that you feel horrible
34:40about what you just did
34:42i just don't need you to acknowledge it
34:44okay i just need you to actually fix
34:46whatever actually fix like see
34:47you just picked up your little your
34:48finger over there if i say don't move
34:50your finger
34:50i don't need you to go i'm so sorry you
34:54know that's involuntary
34:55exactly so and that's totally fine i'm
34:57just saying if i if i point something
34:58out like that just ever just stop
35:00doing whatever i'm asking you to do okay
35:02does that make sense to you
35:03um during the test you cannot look at me
35:06i will be staring at you
35:08just to make sure all the components are
35:09staying where they're supposed to and
35:10now it feels
35:11super creepy to have someone staring at
35:12you when you can't stare back that's
35:14fine
35:14but that's just kind of the name of the
35:16game today okay okay
35:18do you have any questions no i'll try to
35:21sneeze or
35:23burp or anything like that yeah or laugh
35:25or
35:26anything like this can you put your
35:28whole hand on the table is that okay for
35:30you
35:32no make sure that you get in that way
35:36yeah no you're good you could just stick
35:37your whole hand on there so i can see it
35:39that'd be perfect
35:41there's no talking during the test the
35:43only talking you need to do is to say
35:45yes or no
35:46um sometimes people have a problem can
35:48you look at me right now i'm sorry
35:50you're like you're like in the zone i'm
35:53practicing
35:54that's okay so when i ask you a question
35:57a lot of people have you know an
35:58automatic reaction go yes
36:00no they move their head so just be
36:02conscious about the fact that
36:04your whole body including your head
36:06needs to be completely still the only
36:08movement that's actually going to happen
36:09from your body is your mouth to open to
36:10say yes or no but your head should stay
36:13still
36:14so chinese so if i tell you you know if
36:15i have to give you instruction like stop
36:17nodding your head or something like that
36:18just stop and open your mouth and say
36:21the word instead of moving your head
36:22okay so that makes sense
36:24and i like i said i know most people
36:25don't do that on purpose and they're not
36:27realizing that they're doing it until i
36:29point it out to them so
36:30if i do that just see if you can fix
36:32that for me okay
36:33okay um there is no air in your cuff
36:36right now i will over
36:38inflate your cuff when you start it will
36:39feel like your leg's going to fall off
36:40for just a brief second
36:42and then i let almost all the air out
36:44and i pump it up about halfway
36:46and that just gets all the air bubbles
36:47out for me and gives me a nice clean
36:48reading on the chart okay
36:51do you have any questions that's
36:54that's it so make sure that um also that
36:57i ask
36:57the question in its entirety before you
37:00answer
37:01okay um especially with the numbers
37:03people already know what number's coming
37:05next so sometimes they'll say did you
37:06write the number no
37:07and they cut me off there has to be a
37:09delineation between the time i
37:11end the question and the time you answer
37:12so just make sure that you're not doing
37:14that for me okay okay
37:16so give me one second i have to
37:19make a file name here for your birthday
37:22one more time
37:23uh 5 16 85. so i will tell you when the
37:27test is going to begin
37:28and then i will tell you when the touch
37:29is going to end don't move in between
37:31that time and then i will tell you at
37:32the end when it's
37:33okay for you to move around and relax
37:35okay
37:36so just stay completely like you are
37:39until i tell you that it's okay okay
37:41so bother you no i'm just trying to keep
37:43i'm stressing my fingers
37:45yeah don't just like seriously just kind
37:47of like like your hand is on your lap
37:49just
37:49lay your hand right there okay they've
37:51allowed just uh they need to be
37:52these flat though right i mean they just
37:54just like lay on the table
37:56so are they do they not would they not
37:58normally be touching
38:00well it's just um it's fine and again
38:02you're to be looking straight ahead
38:04the test is about to begin please remain
38:06still
38:07regarding what number you were on the
38:09piece of paper did you write the number
38:10one
38:11no did you write the number two oh
38:15did you write the number three no did
38:17you write the number four
38:19no did you write the number five no
38:22this portion of the test is complete
38:24please remain still i take the
38:26instrument out of operation
38:28you can relax how do you feel
38:33you did great you remembered to lie and
38:36everything that was awesome
38:38those so you obviously are a really bad
38:42liar
38:43have people told you that before like
38:44the second you tell a lie like they
38:46could tell like on your face but
38:48because the second you lied to the
38:49number three like i don't know if you
38:50heard me clicking but i
38:52like turned down the subjectivity
38:53because you're starting to go off the
38:54page so
38:55that is what i need to see as a
38:57polygrapher because that
38:58tells me that you know it's wrong to
39:00tell the lie um and you're actually
39:02having a significant reaction when you
39:04lie so that is awesome so thank you for
39:06being a
39:06problem player now that's a good thing
39:09that's a good thing we don't want to be
39:10good liars so
39:11thank you for being a horrible liar um
39:14and that just shows me that you know
39:15obviously on the test when they're
39:16asking you know significant stuff about
39:18your wife
39:19um if you're lying to that it's going to
39:20be even 10 times more amplified so
39:23i appreciate that i appreciate that very
39:26much
39:26more than you know so that was awesome
39:29so let me get um the questions to the
39:31test up if you want to take a drink of
39:33your water
39:33just to kind of you're good yeah
39:37okay so um do you have any other
39:40questions about the questions of the
39:41test
39:42okay so we're going to ask these such a
39:45questions
39:46we have to ask them at least three times
39:48so we call them charts so we have to do
39:49at least three charts
39:52we can do up to five charts depending on
39:55you know if you're not giving me good
39:56data for some reason or
39:57you're moving or something like that we
39:59could do up to five charts okay so
40:00hopefully we'll get them done in three
40:02that's what my hope is um and i i
40:06imagine we will get them done in three
40:07so okay
40:09and the coolest thing about this is
40:10right now there's only one person in
40:12this room that knows what the truth is
40:14and in about five minutes there's going
40:16to be two of us so
40:17that's the coolest part okay and then i
40:19can go share that with them out there
40:21okay so if you you don't have any other
40:24questions or anything
40:25no perfect
40:28so you don't want to take a [ __ ] before
40:30we start oh well
40:33my heart rate up off the scale that's
40:36right i told you you're
40:38creating your own baseline so you're
40:40good all right
40:42no problem okay can you let me know when
40:45you're ready to begin
40:46um during this part of the test i want
40:48you to focus on the back of the chair
40:50okay not looking up down side to side or
40:53anything like that i want you to go
40:54again
40:54without you doing that nope you did
40:56great you but the
40:58obviously the clipboard is gone now so
41:00your area of focus is going to be like
41:02in this area okay
41:03yeah don't like focus on something so
41:06intense that you
41:07um end up you know kind of going
41:08cross-eyed like don't
41:10just make sure you don't do that okay
41:11just kind of okay look around like right
41:13in that area okay
41:14do you remember those questions that you
41:16have to lie to
41:18uh and before 2018 right
41:21can you remember you're going to tell a
41:22lie to those questions yes
41:24you're going to say no i'm going to say
41:25no to anything that says
41:27before 2018. there's regards to before
41:302018.
41:30right and you're going to think about
41:32the livestream
41:34right yeah after you got after you asked
41:36the full question yes
41:37yep perfect all right you ready let's do
41:40it
41:40okay facebook okay so
41:44the test is about to begin please remain
41:45still do you understand i will only ask
41:48you the questions we have discussed
41:50yes regarding shanann's disappearance
41:54do you intend to answer all of the
41:55questions truthfully yes
41:58is your first name christopher yes
42:00springs normal
42:03before 2018 did you ever lose your
42:05temper with someone you cared about
42:07no did you physically cause shanann's
42:10disappearance
42:13were you born in 1985 yes
42:16before 2018 did you ever say anything
42:18out of anger to a loved one
42:20no are you lying about the last time you
42:23saw
42:23chanel no are you now in the state of
42:26colorado
42:27yes before 2018 have you ever wanted to
42:30hurt someone to be even with them
42:32no straight from them
42:36do you know where shannon is now no
42:40this portion of the test is complete
42:41please remain still i take the
42:43instrument out of operation
42:44to relax how do you feel
42:48horrible yeah just
42:51trying to look at something without
42:53nothing there the chair thing
42:55yeah yeah and it gets kind of weird like
42:57that's why i
42:58always tell people not to know
43:01must be trying to keep everything still
43:04do you feel like you're in a good
43:05position right now
43:07how are you sitting in there it's okay
43:10okay just do you have any issues with
43:14the questions
43:15as far as you physically causing
43:17shenan's disappearance
43:18is there anything that you are like i
43:21don't like how that question's
43:22you know worded maybe you know well or
43:24does it cause you or you know exactly
43:26what i'm talking about
43:28yeah um i'm there
43:31okay and as far as um the last time you
43:33saw her you know i'm talking about in
43:35the bedroom when
43:36you saw her makeup coming out her face
43:38and then if you know where she is now
43:40having direct knowledge of where she
43:42would be at this moment
43:44okay okay so
43:47do you want to take some drink of water
43:48or are you ready to start just like a
43:50church there's some water okay
43:51you probably want that mountain dew now
43:53i'm gonna tell you
43:55i made everything stable yeah you feel
43:59good like that
44:00yeah i'm pretty good
44:05ready yep this up just a ten
44:10there we go during this test on the last
44:12test
44:13um you're breathing really funky so
44:16please just try and do
44:17normal breath okay we can't have deep
44:19breaths or oh
44:20deep breath okay sorry so that's okay
44:22just breathe as normal as possible okay
44:26yeah all right you ready yep
44:33[Music]
44:34okay we're gonna get started so stay
44:37still
44:39the test is about to begin please remain
44:40still do you understand that i'll only
44:43ask you the questions we have discussed
44:45regarding shenan's disappearance do you
44:47intend to answer all of the questions
44:49truthfully
44:50yes are you now in the state of colorado
44:52yes
44:53before 2018 have you ever wanted to hurt
44:56someone to get even with them
44:58no are you lying about the last time you
45:00saw [ __ ] in
45:01no is your first name christopher
45:04yes before 2018 did you ever lose your
45:09temper wish what would you cared about
45:10no do you know where shananna is now no
45:14were you born in 1985 yes before 2018
45:18did you ever say anything out of anger
45:19to a loved one
45:20no it's pretty normal
45:24did you physically cause shanann's
45:25disappearance no
45:28question in the test is complete please
45:30remain still i take the instrument out
45:31of operation
45:34and relax i think we should be able to
45:38get in
45:38one more chart um but i really need your
45:40breathing to be normal
45:41you are like all over the place so i'm
45:44sorry that's okay
45:45sometimes i feel not breathing enough
45:47i'm gonna
45:49play that i don't want to do that yeah
45:52yeah
45:52i just need it as normal as possible or
45:54not do i fluctuate it okay
45:56okay sorry about that that's okay
46:00i just want to be able to get it down
46:01for you and one more chart instead of
46:03doing three more so yeah
46:08oh you don't want that you tell me when
46:10you okay
46:11i know i sound like a broken record but
46:13i have to ask you again any issues with
46:15those questions on the test
46:16you know exactly what i mean when i
46:18asked about physically causing your
46:19disappearance
46:20last time you saw shenan and um
46:24if you know where she is now okay no
46:27question about those
46:28no okay feel good yep
46:31okay we're gonna get started so stay
46:33still
46:36keeping breaking through the nose or
46:37breathing through the mouth matters
46:39it doesn't matter just normal
46:43the test is about to begin facial rain
46:45still
46:48do you understand i will only ask you
46:49the questions we have discussed
46:51yes regarding shenan's disappearance do
46:54you intend to answer all of the
46:56questions truthfully
46:57yes were you born in 1985
47:00yes before 2018 did you ever see
47:03anything out of anger to a loved one
47:05yes no do you know where shenandoah is
47:08now
47:09no are you now in the state of colorado
47:12yes
47:13before 2018 have you ever wanted to hurt
47:15someone to get even with them
47:17no did you physically cause shenan's
47:19disappearance
47:20no it's your first name christopher
47:24yes before 2018 did you ever lose your
47:27temper with someone you cared about
47:29no are you lying about the last time you
47:31saw shannon
47:33no question the test is complete please
47:36remove so i take the instrument out of
47:37operation
47:46[Music]
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48:40coast to coast
49:02you

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