Chavez Ravine: A Los Angeles Story — Transcript
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- 0:00I had to scream that all those hills had
- 0:24been leveled the house is torn down I
- 0:27saw it in my dream and exactly the way I
- 0:31saw it that's a way it happened this is
- 0:34the tragedy of my life absolutely I was
- 0:39responsible for uprooting I don't know
- 0:43how many hundreds of people from their
- 0:45own little Valley than having a whole
- 0:47thing destroyed it's sort of taken on a
- 0:50mythical sense in people's memories and
- 0:54then with the feeling that it was
- 0:55unfairly taken from them so it's no
- 0:58wonder that that people have strong
- 1:00feelings about it
- 1:02he said please your sons and baseball
- 1:05team let's go to the Dodgers as a family
- 1:08I'll never go again I hated it I didn't
- 1:12enjoy it it was like dancing on a grave
- 1:17[Music]
- 1:181962 and Chavez Ravine a few miles from
- 1:22downtown Los Angeles baseball fans crowd
- 1:25the bleachers of the brand-new Dodger
- 1:27Stadium to welcome their team from
- 1:29Brooklyn the stadium sits on 170 acres
- 1:32of freshly cleared land land that chests
- 1:3512 years earlier was home to over 300
- 1:37families the neighborhoods of La Loma
- 1:40palo verde and bishop the neighborhoods
- 1:43of Chavez Ravine
- 1:46[Music]
- 1:53me myself I loved it there I loved it
- 1:57because we used to run up and down the
- 2:00hills and we know every little trail
- 2:02around there in the neighborhood I don't
- 2:06think anybody when I move out of your
- 2:07neighborhood when you've been them in
- 2:08there so long and you know everybody
- 2:10like a big family Elysian Park was our
- 2:14playground you know the whole park was
- 2:16right next to it we have to go down
- 2:19there and swim naked in the LA River we
- 2:22used to make dams you know with rocks
- 2:25you know make holes and then swimming
- 2:28that dirty water we won a lot of
- 2:30trophies there in Elysian Park believe
- 2:32me we did football you name a baseball
- 2:35basketball we were good we will get to
- 2:38the playground play the opponent they
- 2:40would come up with a brand new uniforms
- 2:42and here we look like those goddamn East
- 2:44Side kids you know raggedy-ass kids
- 2:47playing baseball that other team you
- 2:48know he said how could these guys beat
- 2:50us there were great times for me
- 2:52beautiful time the processions the
- 2:58lighted candle the men would dress like
- 3:02Roman soldiers they had this big drum
- 3:05boom boom boom got through the hill
- 3:09it was unbelievable when I seen all
- 3:11these pictures I was really surprised
- 3:15and I never seen anybody with that
- 3:17camera who would take these pictures
- 3:20nobody wouldn't go up the hill and take
- 3:22pictures and nobody could afford a
- 3:24camera I was just I was looking for a
- 3:28kind of a postcard view of the Los
- 3:30Angeles I had a friend who had a car and
- 3:33we drove around looking and found this
- 3:36hill and walked up the hill and but then
- 3:40they looked down the other side of that
- 3:42hill I was standing on and and there was
- 3:44this community below me looked like a
- 3:46village dirt roads and I was just going
- 3:50up the roads and and people walking
- 3:52around
- 3:56but he'll still exist right there he
- 3:58proceeded up and top with it so I was I
- 4:00was up there someplace when I took the
- 4:03shot yeah he was up I'm up I speak
- 4:07yolibeth I made photographs in 48 and
- 4:16most of them in 1949 and I had very
- 4:20little luck and in showing them or
- 4:22getting anybody to even look at them
- 4:25[Music]
- 4:48fifty years later Don found a publisher
- 4:51who thought his photograph should be a
- 4:53book and for the first time they were
- 4:55seen by the people of Chavez Ravine got
- 4:59a card table a couple of chairs with a
- 5:02box full of photographs from 1949 and a
- 5:07crowd formed around and who were
- 5:09exclaiming and some burst into tears
- 5:14it was quite marvelous it was pentagram
- 5:17Oh every time I see a bouquet I feel
- 5:20like crying okay I could see the house
- 5:22where I was born like my daughters were
- 5:23going there my daughter was born my wife
- 5:26[Music]
- 5:34when I was a kid nice to model airplanes
- 5:37kite nice to fly went up a hill it was
- 5:39so clear many years back you could see
- 5:41cloud del rey santa monica and st. peter
- 5:44just the city hall was the titleist
- 5:45building and it was very nice up to me
- 5:48it was just like a little ranch my
- 5:51grandchildren I'll take him up there for
- 5:53Isis dad was he born up here says yeah
- 5:55and they see the pictures on a book it
- 5:57says Jesus poor kids I said yeah that's
- 5:59the way it was in those days you know at
- 6:02Birth put it and hand-me-down clothes
- 6:05and books and what-have-you but uh you
- 6:09know what we were happy we're happy
- 6:10people I used to make like sleds out of
- 6:13cardboard boxes from Kelvinator or
- 6:16gaffers sattler and that the stoves or
- 6:20whatever it came in and just slide down
- 6:21it was like a toboggan except it wasn't
- 6:24grass 20 minutes to get up there again
- 6:28that was a recreation when I seen all
- 6:32these pictures and I was excited about
- 6:35seeing him but then I was kind of mad
- 6:39resentful about what happened when we
- 6:43had to move out in July 1950 the city of
- 6:49Los Angeles sent letters to the
- 6:50residents of Chavez Ravine notifying
- 6:53them that they would have to sell their
- 6:54homes to make way for low income public
- 6:56housing Frank Wilkinson of the City
- 6:59Housing Authority led the project
- 7:03our city was the first city in the
- 7:05nation to get the first hundred and ten
- 7:07million dollars billion dollars in
- 7:09today's money for public housing in LA
- 7:11what we were going to build ten thousand
- 7:14units in Chavez Ravine was one of the
- 7:17prime places we found simply because it
- 7:19was predominantly vacant so you could
- 7:22build without displacing so many people
- 7:25it was something that really hit him
- 7:30hard you know something like that that
- 7:33happened I mean it's when they're gonna
- 7:35throw you out they were forcing us out
- 7:37really and they would tell us you don't
- 7:41sell we're gonna condemn your property
- 7:44you won't get anything out of it so that
- 7:46scared us a lot of people think the
- 7:50Housing Authority as a public entity has
- 7:53the right to buy your home they'll pay
- 7:57you a fair market value and then you are
- 8:01required to sell that's the power that
- 8:03we had and I prepared a certificate to
- 8:06every family so I visited there and I
- 8:08visited all those people saying when the
- 8:10project is built you and your family
- 8:12will be the first priority together you
- 8:14can pick the part of the project you
- 8:15want living that never happened
- 8:17they never build anything like that they
- 8:20did went ahead and build a Dodger
- 8:21Stadium and Richard Nitro and Robert
- 8:26Alexander were picked as the architects
- 8:29for the site and they worked for months
- 8:31designing writing doing beautiful plans
- 8:34as we had playgrounds Church fueled
- 8:37everything we were completely idealistic
- 8:41I'm feeling that what we were offering
- 8:43was better good for the city of LA but
- 8:46good for the people who were being
- 8:48displaced we were gonna have first crack
- 8:51at moving into those projects now if you
- 8:54could imagine a hundred acres of lush
- 8:56green beautiful hills and a handful of
- 8:59Mexicans living there with vegetable
- 9:01gardens and a few pigs and goats and a
- 9:04little church and you know being all
- 9:06condensed in a little postage sized
- 9:09tenement it just doesn't make any sense
- 9:11it simply doesn't wash
- 9:13we were ripped off
- 9:15my dad made a mistake you know the guys
- 9:19from the city came and knocked on the
- 9:20door and they offered him 9600 so my dad
- 9:25said wow you know I really made some
- 9:29money you know I've made a killing
- 9:30that's what he thought so when we moved
- 9:33out of there and my dad had to buy
- 9:36another house
- 9:37they were 9,600 there were 15 17 18
- 9:42thousand dollars they didn't want to
- 9:46move
- 9:46they didn't want to lose their friends
- 9:48they didn't want to lose their homes
- 9:50that they built from nothing some people
- 9:56didn't move you know the story about
- 9:57what happened there but the majority the
- 10:00people moved when they got their initial
- 10:02papers because they didn't think that
- 10:04there was a way to fight it our
- 10:09community our Vario was well represented
- 10:12in world war ii and some of our GIS
- 10:15veterans were coming home from the wars
- 10:17and at that time that we're getting the
- 10:19news that the people were gonna be out
- 10:22rooted from the neighborhood and I
- 10:24remember my uncle meeting with some of
- 10:27these war veterans in front of my
- 10:29grandma's house it says there's a bunch
- 10:32of what they're trying to do to
- 10:33our parents and to us our government was
- 10:37good enough to take us out of our
- 10:39neighborhood to fight a a war we come
- 10:42home to what to find out that they're
- 10:45gonna outdo us from my neighborhood does
- 10:47a bunch of bull
- 10:49[Music]
- 11:04[Music]
- 11:05meeting over the leisure park with the
- 11:09city officials and community people and
- 11:13my grandma got up you know and she says
- 11:16he says you don't have no right to in
- 11:18Spanish right he says you know I have no
- 11:20right to buy us out or kick us out of
- 11:22our neighborhood none of my kids learned
- 11:24of my credential were raised and born
- 11:26here and then she says besides you
- 11:30bastard
- 11:31my son died for my property can you
- 11:35replace my son then she started crying
- 11:38that was it it was very sad that we had
- 11:41to move away cuz we were like a big
- 11:43family and a lot of my friends were
- 11:49there too my cousins and the one that
- 11:53really heard me a lot was my grandmother
- 11:56she we work very closely my father
- 12:01bought property out in Lincoln Heights
- 12:03and she couldn't go with us because we
- 12:06were too many
- 12:10I remember looking at my house I knew I
- 12:14wasn't gonna see it again I just looked
- 12:17at it once and I can I reduced to look
- 12:20at it again because I knew I was gonna
- 12:22break down my mother was already all
- 12:25broken and she needed somebody to be
- 12:28strong for her my father built that out
- 12:32I was born there
- 12:35it had a vine growing and it covered all
- 12:40the roof in the in the front and in
- 12:42spring it looked like it was wearing a
- 12:45white crown so we moved away it was gone
- 12:53and you know I've never felt about any
- 12:58other house the way I felt about that
- 13:01one
- 13:04[Music]
- 13:07by August 1952 palo verde la loma and
- 13:11bishop had become ghost towns the city's
- 13:14acquisition of the land designated for
- 13:15the housing site was nearly complete
- 13:17condemnation proceedings were underway
- 13:20against a few property owners who still
- 13:22held out it was in one of these hearings
- 13:25that the Elysian Park Heights housing
- 13:27project was dealt an unexpected blow we
- 13:31had a tremendous support for the program
- 13:33pretty well finished engineering and the
- 13:34architecture worked the only people who
- 13:36were opposing it or what is commonly
- 13:39called the real estate Lobby was headed
- 13:41up by the apartment house owners
- 13:42association and other people like that
- 13:45they called it creeping socialism they
- 13:48were trying to discredit it every way
- 13:50every way they could had petitions and
- 13:52initiatives to try to kill the program
- 13:55we should have been more suspicious than
- 13:58we were as I remember it was a very
- 14:03large site it was vacant land but the
- 14:06owner of that property was a prominent
- 14:09business person downtown LA and he
- 14:13demanded I think $100,000 and we were
- 14:17fighting for them over value he wanted
- 14:19as much as he could get when out of
- 14:22nowhere this Reuter for the property
- 14:26owner turned to me and said now mr.
- 14:31Wilkinson I want to ask you what
- 14:37organizations political or otherwise
- 14:41have you belong to this is 1931 he
- 14:46didn't say are you a communist
- 14:48he said what have you belong to I just
- 14:50turned to the judge and said I refuse to
- 14:53answer that question everyone any lawyer
- 14:56would admit is it done irrelevant and
- 14:58immaterial if that man had said that
- 15:00word I would still be here today and the
- 15:03project would have been built but my
- 15:06lawyer said nothing not a word he's just
- 15:08pale white he told me later Frank if I
- 15:12had objected to that question people
- 15:15would have known that I mean he was the
- 15:17communist cuz I have
- 15:18check to that place I said what about me
- 15:21he said well you have a problem to one
- 15:25of the top communist agents assigned to
- 15:28operation abolition his Frank Wilkinson
- 15:31recently convicted for contempt of
- 15:34Congress for refusal to answer questions
- 15:37concerning his communist party
- 15:39membership and activities I listened to
- 15:42this interview closely because in it you
- 15:44will hear Frank Wilkinson a communist
- 15:47agent explain his communist jargon in
- 15:51the committee hearings today you were
- 15:52called an international communist agent
- 15:54are you a communist until they have
- 15:56resolved this matter and declared these
- 15:59kind of questions under compulsion to be
- 16:02illegal and unconstitutional I've
- 16:05refused to answer the questions away
- 16:07from the committee just as I refused to
- 16:09answer them correctly to the committee
- 16:11what I've been told that was fired you
- 16:18know I'm out destroyed destroyed
- 16:21neutralized this way the FBI list says I
- 16:24was successfully neutralized me crews of
- 16:28television people arrived at the
- 16:29courtroom walked in to take pictures of
- 16:31those being mayor Bowen was removed he
- 16:36would have been a shoo-in
- 16:36in 1953 if this was very important the
- 16:39press at the time another paper
- 16:41crusading against the mayor powerin was
- 16:43wiped out and the new mayor Norris
- 16:45Poulson came in and started the
- 16:47negotiations to turn the site not back
- 16:51to the people but to turn over to Walter
- 16:53O'Malley and the bushland Dodgers we
- 16:57spent millions of dollars came ready for
- 16:59it and the Dodgers picked it up for just
- 17:01a fraction of that it it was just a
- 17:04tragedy for the people and for the city
- 17:09it was a most hypocritical thing he was
- 17:11possibly happen the city promising you a
- 17:14decent home for refusing to answer the
- 17:17questions of the house on American
- 17:18Activities Committee Frank Wilkinson
- 17:20spent a year in jail it was the
- 17:23beginning of Frank's own legal battle
- 17:24against the FBI which had targeted Frank
- 17:27as part of a deliberate effort to
- 17:29destroy the nation's public housing
- 17:31grams our lawsuit started in 1980 lasted
- 17:3712 years it's lost hope and love the law
- 17:39firm who represented me cost him a
- 17:41million dollars in pro bono money it was
- 17:44an ACLU test case and we finally won our
- 17:47winning that we get a hundred and thirty
- 17:49two thousand pages on my life from 42 to
- 17:5380 and in the Hearst destroyer
- 17:57self-esteem
- 18:07Here Come Mario Mario
- 18:13so right Louganis party
- 18:16[Music]
- 18:27so locator losses good
- 18:33little Sargeras babies
- 18:36[Music]
- 18:58Sallu llama yeah buddy
- 19:03[Music]
- 19:38see that trees over there yeah it's just
- 19:41this hill right they don't get down see
- 19:43in the stadiums see this hill and for
- 19:46the stadium sit
- 19:46we're looking right there down at the
- 19:48bottom the parking that they had a lower
- 19:58the hill so they can have room for the
- 20:01stadium see so they Lord they lowered
- 20:05the hill and that dirt covered the whole
- 20:08valley the pull of ready school it was a
- 20:14Grammar School it was a two-story
- 20:15building they took the roof off the
- 20:19school you know on the floors and
- 20:21everything and just left the walls and
- 20:24they just fill it with dirt and
- 20:25eventually covered it so in a thousand
- 20:30years somebody's gonna start digging
- 20:32they're gonna find a school now
- 20:37when I saw the bulldozers moving the
- 20:41land I said you know I'm never gonna go
- 20:43see a Dodger game though I was a Dodger
- 20:46fan I went to one reunion and they
- 20:52handed the Dodgers olive branches
- 20:54symbolically
- 20:55I was two months old when the Dodgers
- 21:00moved to Los Angeles just wanted to
- 21:03clarify I was I was two months old and
- 21:05and honestly when we started working
- 21:08with the community I didn't understand
- 21:11what took place 40 years ago I didn't
- 21:14understand what happened in the
- 21:15communities here and and I think the
- 21:18lack of understanding on the part of the
- 21:21Dodgers was was perceived as a lack of
- 21:23caring what what kind of crap is that we
- 21:27give you a olive branch it just
- 21:29pisses me off
- 21:31that's a beautiful steel I love the
- 21:33Dodgers I'm a fan of them now always
- 21:40hopefully someday I was working safe to
- 21:41steal there's a helper character who
- 21:44never made it
- 21:50what is well what if they would succeed
- 21:53it with a project that they want to put
- 21:54there
- 21:55you think we will still be there that I
- 21:58have some but you know it is that
- 22:00something that we'll never know all we
- 22:03know is that we were uprooted from our
- 22:04neighborhood and we went our separate
- 22:07ways the really sad thing is that so
- 22:13many of us don't know each other we've
- 22:16all gone and we've done our things but
- 22:18it's like on a vacuum it's like we lost
- 22:20our brothers we lost our sisters
- 22:22so there's generations of people that
- 22:24will never know that they did know each
- 22:27other
- 22:30a lot of time passed I think it's about
- 22:35a dozen years and by then Dodger Stadium
- 22:38is built I was in town working
- 22:40photographing on assignment and I
- 22:43thought I would go visit the old
- 22:44neighborhood I was driving up these
- 22:47roads and I kept running into Dodger
- 22:49Stadium and I just couldn't figure it
- 22:51out and I thought there it must still be
- 22:54there if I could find the right Road to
- 22:56get in but I never could find the right
- 22:58Road
- 23:00[Music]
- 23:32you
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