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ChatGPT Basics for Accounting (Part 2) - AUG 2026 — Transcript

by Hector Garcia CPA · 10,913 words · 1,495 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

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  1. 0:28Hector, you'll need to unmute yourself.
  2. 0:33Thank you. Welcome everybody to Chad GPT
  3. 0:35basics for accounting part two. Now, one
  4. 0:39really really important piece that I
  5. 0:42want to make sure that we go over is we
  6. 0:45uh go into the document section of the
  7. 0:48live
  8. 0:50webinar here and uh make sure you click
  9. 0:53on the slides, have those slides handy
  10. 0:56and available to you uh because we're
  11. 0:58going to make some references to some
  12. 1:00links and some stuff and you need to
  13. 1:02have those and the RAM team uh is going
  14. 1:05to load up that uh the PDF version of
  15. 1:08the slides. ites uh for you so you can
  16. 1:10have all those links. So today's session
  17. 1:12is called Chip PT basics for accounting
  18. 1:14part two upgrade your everyday workflows
  19. 1:17with AI. My name is Hector Garcia. I'm a
  20. 1:20practicing C CPA. I'm the CEO of
  21. 1:23Reframe. Um I I'm your regular
  22. 1:26run-of-the-mill accountant that also has
  23. 1:28a YouTube channel and also does
  24. 1:31education to other accountants. My email
  25. 1:34is hectorreframeaccounting.com.
  26. 1:36Keep that email handy. If anything
  27. 1:39wasn't clear in this webinar, open
  28. 1:42questions, suggestions for next uh
  29. 1:46content, etc., etc., email me directly
  30. 1:49and I'll, you know, keep your request in
  31. 1:51mind for whatever uh your request is
  32. 1:54regarding this session. But do, you
  33. 1:56know, don't worry about about it. Just
  34. 1:58if you have a question, just email me
  35. 1:59and I'll try to point you into the right
  36. 2:01direction. I also run an event uh called
  37. 2:04Reframe in Miami. Uh, RAMP has been
  38. 2:07gracious enough to been a sponsor in the
  39. 2:08past couple years. So, we're very
  40. 2:10appreciative of that. If you want to
  41. 2:12learn more about the event that I run
  42. 2:14every year, it's called Reframe. It's in
  43. 2:16Miami. It's in November. I think that if
  44. 2:19you like this content and you like the
  45. 2:20stuff that I've uh that I've created
  46. 2:22over the years, then you're definitely
  47. 2:24going to want to come uh to Miami this
  48. 2:26year. Anyway, the learning objectives
  49. 2:27for today are number one, navigate the
  50. 2:29Chad desktop app. It's available
  51. 2:33both for Mac or PC. I am on a Mac
  52. 2:35myself. Uh so uh so it might look a
  53. 2:39little bit different um than yours if
  54. 2:41you're on a PC, but the all the
  55. 2:43functionality is the same. We're going
  56. 2:45to talk about organizing receipts, uh
  57. 2:47running OCR, renaming files,
  58. 2:49categorizing documents. Basically, you
  59. 2:51got a bunch of stuff in your computer
  60. 2:53and you're going to ask it move this
  61. 2:56stuff around. Um so that's kind of like
  62. 2:58the first uh example that we're going to
  63. 3:00do. The second one is going to be
  64. 3:03creating documents. So like have it
  65. 3:05create a a PDF document, have it create
  66. 3:08a simulated tax return, have it create a
  67. 3:13um a spreadsheet. Uh so have it create
  68. 3:16uh something essentially. That's the
  69. 3:18that's that's the idea. So that's what
  70. 3:19we're going to do. Um and even though
  71. 3:21the learning objectives looks pretty um
  72. 3:24pretty short, there's a lot of moving
  73. 3:25parts in between each one. So we're
  74. 3:27going to get uh into a lot of details in
  75. 3:29product. So we're doing the intro now.
  76. 3:32Then we're going to talk about uh
  77. 3:34navigation, organizing files, file
  78. 3:36creation. And if we have time, that part
  79. 3:39five, that's only if we have time. You
  80. 3:41know, I'll give you a little bit
  81. 3:42introduction of app creation. That's
  82. 3:44another piece of this, like a whole
  83. 3:47another piece of this that really
  84. 3:49deserves its own like 10-hour webinar,
  85. 3:51which is like how can accountants build
  86. 3:53their own apps to solve problems that
  87. 3:55current apps cannot solve because
  88. 3:57they're very niche and specific to your
  89. 3:59need. And then throughout the webinar or
  90. 4:01through the end, we'll do a Q&A session.
  91. 4:03Try to answer as many of your questions
  92. 4:05as possible. So, type in your questions
  93. 4:07in the chat in the live chat um and keep
  94. 4:09your questions handy if you want to ask
  95. 4:12them. Now, part one. If you missed part
  96. 4:14one, make sure you go into this uh the
  97. 4:17page that's in this link. You should
  98. 4:20have access to the to the slides and you
  99. 4:23should be able to just click on that or
  100. 4:24take a picture of that and type it in
  101. 4:26manually. And we learned the basic
  102. 4:28prompting. We learned meta prompting. We
  103. 4:31learned uh document editing inside the
  104. 4:34chaptt web app. And then we learned a
  105. 4:36little bit about connecting apps like
  106. 4:38Gmail or whatever into CHP for it to
  107. 4:41interact with your own uh company
  108. 4:44documents etc. So that's we already
  109. 4:46covered that in part one. So let's start
  110. 4:49with navigation. And there's a couple of
  111. 4:50slides here that is quick cheat sheet to
  112. 4:53kind of walk you through the navigation.
  113. 4:55Uh, but I'm just gonna uh get out of
  114. 4:57that and go straight into the product.
  115. 5:00So, what you should be seeing on my
  116. 5:02screen is the desktop version of Chad
  117. 5:04GPT. This is not the web version. This
  118. 5:06is the desktop version of Chad GPT.
  119. 5:08Again, I'm running this on a Mac. It'll
  120. 5:10be slightly different than when if
  121. 5:12you're running it on a PC, but um the
  122. 5:15app all the functions should be the
  123. 5:17same. Now, one area of clarification is
  124. 5:20the desktop version of the app still
  125. 5:23requires an internet connection, still
  126. 5:25requires you to be a paid subscriber to
  127. 5:28Chad GPT. Um, and it still uses the
  128. 5:32cloud um engine like the chatgpt.com so
  129. 5:36to speak, their service to process
  130. 5:39stuff. The only difference is that in
  131. 5:42the desktop app because it's installed
  132. 5:44in your desktop, it can interact with
  133. 5:47documents in your computer and those
  134. 5:49documents stay in your computer only. So
  135. 5:52that's kind of the big value of it is
  136. 5:54that from a security standpoint, if
  137. 5:56you're worried about uploading documents
  138. 5:59that are your client documents or
  139. 6:01sensitive client data, uh all the data
  140. 6:03stays in your computer. Now the
  141. 6:05computing happens on the cloud so you
  142. 6:08need an internet connection but all the
  143. 6:10data all the stuff happens um locally in
  144. 6:13your computer. Now, I want to just do a
  145. 6:16quick call out. If you don't have that
  146. 6:18installed yet, but you you are used to
  147. 6:20just going to chatgpt.com, like that's
  148. 6:22like what you're used to going somewhere
  149. 6:24in the bottom of chatgpt, there should
  150. 6:26be like a little button that says
  151. 6:27download apps. And if you click on that,
  152. 6:30there should be a link to uh get chat
  153. 6:33GPT desktop or get chat GPT mobile. You
  154. 6:35can install that in your phone as well.
  155. 6:37And when you click on uh get chatgpt
  156. 6:39desktop, it should start downloading
  157. 6:41your uh the application right away. Uh
  158. 6:45so like that's just there's a quick link
  159. 6:47to that uh to download that. That should
  160. 6:49be it should be an icon somewhere in the
  161. 6:51lower uh part of the computer. So I'm
  162. 6:54going to get get rid of this CHP
  163. 6:56web-based app because we're not going to
  164. 6:58be using web- based app. We're going to
  165. 6:59be using the desktop application. Okay,
  166. 7:02cool. So that's kind of the first step.
  167. 7:03We're all good. Um now in terms of power
  168. 7:07uh they they have the same power. So
  169. 7:09chip pd.com desktop they have the exact
  170. 7:12same power the same engine
  171. 7:15like they can do the exact same thing.
  172. 7:18The huge difference is that the desktop
  173. 7:20app can interact with your computer
  174. 7:22where the web app cannot and it's
  175. 7:25actually a pretty big difference. Um and
  176. 7:28if you're going to be doing any sort of
  177. 7:29coding you're definitely going to be
  178. 7:30work want to work on the desktop based
  179. 7:32app. Now the first thing you see on the
  180. 7:34top of of the screen is chat GPT mode
  181. 7:37and codeex mode. So CEX mode is their
  182. 7:41first attempt to build a coding platform
  183. 7:45for software developers. And the coding
  184. 7:48platform could also do some of the stuff
  185. 7:49that we're going to talk about now. But
  186. 7:51we're going to um skip the Codex
  187. 7:53platform unless we're forced to use it.
  188. 7:55And we're going to be working on the
  189. 7:56ChatJPT platform only. Again, you need
  190. 7:58to be on the paid edition of Chat JPT uh
  191. 8:01to have access to this tool. Now, when
  192. 8:04you're in the chat GPT mode, you're
  193. 8:06going to see a tab on the top of the
  194. 8:09screen. You're going to have one for
  195. 8:11chat and one for work. So, chat is going
  196. 8:14to resemble the same thing that you see
  197. 8:16in chatjpt.com.
  198. 8:18And the work is the one that is a
  199. 8:20combination of the interface that you're
  200. 8:24used to, which is a chatjpt.com
  201. 8:25combination, and it being able to
  202. 8:28interact in your computer. Now, a couple
  203. 8:31things you're going to notice
  204. 8:32immediately when you're in this work
  205. 8:34mode is that there's a drop-own menu
  206. 8:36here that says, "How should actions be
  207. 8:40approved?" And when this says actions,
  208. 8:42it means doing things in your computer.
  209. 8:45So, there's ask for approval, which
  210. 8:47means every single time it's going to
  211. 8:50touch something in your computer, it's
  212. 8:52going to say, "Hey, can I do this?" Or
  213. 8:54it's going to uh manipulate an app and
  214. 8:56say, "Can I do this?" Um, approve for me
  215. 8:59means give it a little bit of um runway
  216. 9:03for it to choose what's high risk and
  217. 9:06what's potentially unsafe. And then it
  218. 9:08will approve most of the computer
  219. 9:11manipulating tasks except for something
  220. 9:14that feels that could potentially be um
  221. 9:17a um a a unsafe thing. And then you can
  222. 9:21do full access and just say, you know
  223. 9:23what, just be able to touch everything,
  224. 9:26be able to affect everything in my
  225. 9:27computer. Don't ask me questions. Just
  226. 9:30do the work. Of course, in a perfect
  227. 9:32world, this is how you want to work,
  228. 9:34right? because you uh want to trust it
  229. 9:38not to destroy any files in your
  230. 9:39computer or do anything high risk or
  231. 9:41destructive. If I'm talking to
  232. 9:43accountants here, I'm telling you, I
  233. 9:45don't think a whole lot of people here
  234. 9:46are just going to say yes, sure, give me
  235. 9:49full access. Um so, uh because you have
  236. 9:52to say yes, you got full readr access to
  237. 9:54all my folders, full read access to
  238. 9:56terminal commands, that means you can
  239. 9:58install potentially even install a
  240. 10:00virus, right? and full read access to my
  241. 10:03internet apps and plugins like Google
  242. 10:05Chrome that sort of thing. So if you
  243. 10:07click on con confirm there you give a
  244. 10:09full access and control to your computer
  245. 10:11and then up here it says full access. So
  246. 10:13that's actually a really important
  247. 10:15piece. There's a lot of another site
  248. 10:17thing here that says where should the
  249. 10:19chat run on your computer and um in the
  250. 10:23cloud. If you click on in the cloud, um
  251. 10:26you you're going to have a challenge
  252. 10:27accessing to some of the some of the
  253. 10:30local files unless you physically attach
  254. 10:32them like you actually upload file by
  255. 10:34file. So actually work on on your
  256. 10:37computer and that's where you want to uh
  257. 10:39do that. I already gave this thing
  258. 10:41access to my computer and there's some
  259. 10:44areas of settings to do that. So I'm
  260. 10:45just going to show you that real quick.
  261. 10:47So when I go into my settings
  262. 10:50um there are uh different settings that
  263. 10:52have to do with integration. So like for
  264. 10:54example here's computer use and here's
  265. 10:57you say look yes you have access to any
  266. 10:59app in my computer you have access to my
  267. 11:01browser you have access to more browsers
  268. 11:04right uh or Microsoft Edge you have
  269. 11:06access to my to my Excel like you
  270. 11:08explicitly give it access and you can
  271. 11:11even go one step further you can give it
  272. 11:13access even while your computer is
  273. 11:16turned off sorry not turned off but
  274. 11:18while it's uh like locked you know like
  275. 11:20in in like password mode so you can even
  276. 11:23give it that level of access. So like
  277. 11:25you could like not shut down your
  278. 11:26computer but log out um and then just
  279. 11:29give it a task and have it just do it do
  280. 11:31its thing. So you can go one step
  281. 11:33further uh on that uh to do that. So you
  282. 11:36have all sorts of different things
  283. 11:37browser. So I can say yes. Can can they
  284. 11:40control my browser? Yes. I could also um
  285. 11:43limit uh uh you know the access that it
  286. 11:45has here and know give it access to
  287. 11:48autofill passwords. So if you wanted to
  288. 11:50also log in into your bank or whatever
  289. 11:51and do things again it's going to be up
  290. 11:54to you how much access you want to give
  291. 11:57to this app. Uh my job here is just to
  292. 11:59show you what it can do and then it will
  293. 12:01be your job to work with your IT
  294. 12:03department and figure out how much um
  295. 12:05you know how much access you can give
  296. 12:07and then how much you would be under
  297. 12:09compliance right um from the perspective
  298. 12:11of giving AI a lot of access. Now, um, a
  299. 12:16lot of people ask me, is there an undo
  300. 12:18button? Like, if it does something and I
  301. 12:20wasn't sure if it did it right, can I
  302. 12:22press undo? I mean, if it modified a
  303. 12:24file and you asked it to go back to the
  304. 12:26last version of the file, you can do
  305. 12:28something like that. But, but if it
  306. 12:30deleted a file, you usually cannot undo
  307. 12:32deleting. So, that's why you want to be
  308. 12:34very careful about that. So, I'm going
  309. 12:36to put this in a app a proof for me.
  310. 12:38That way, it's sort of in semiapproval
  311. 12:40mode as I work on stuff. Okay. So,
  312. 12:42that's kind of the first step. The next
  313. 12:44step is I want to give it a specific
  314. 12:46folder inside my computer to work on.
  315. 12:49So, let me just open up my uh folder
  316. 12:52structure here just to kind of show you
  317. 12:54what I'm going to be working on. So, I
  318. 12:55have this folder in my desktop. I just
  319. 12:58called it chatgpt demo. And I'm going to
  320. 13:01be dumping files in here just to show
  321. 13:02you kind of example by example. um but
  322. 13:05it's only going to have access or it's
  323. 13:07only going to manipulate the data inside
  324. 13:10this folder which right now it doesn't
  325. 13:12have any data. So the way I the way I do
  326. 13:15that the way I I tell it go do things in
  327. 13:17that I'm going to click here where it
  328. 13:18says choose project click on that and
  329. 13:21then click on new project
  330. 13:24okay and uh actually not choose project
  331. 13:26sorry I have to choose the data in my
  332. 13:29computer
  333. 13:33okay um let's do work on this project
  334. 13:42hold let me create a project. And then
  335. 13:44I'm going to call this one uh organize
  336. 13:47or organize my receipts.
  337. 13:52Organize my receipts. Let me just uh
  338. 13:54organize
  339. 13:56my receipts. Should spell things
  340. 13:58correctly. Okay. And then it says add
  341. 14:00folders and ch uh add folders ch.
  342. 14:04So I'm going to click on that and then
  343. 14:06choose in my desktop. That folder
  344. 14:09doesn't have any data right now. Okay.
  345. 14:11And then I can click on create project.
  346. 14:13And what's also interesting about it is
  347. 14:15I can add multiple folders and it will
  348. 14:18read through all the multiple folders
  349. 14:20and figure out what to do in each
  350. 14:22folder. So we're just going to start
  351. 14:23very similar here. Go create project.
  352. 14:26Now my project is created and I gave it
  353. 14:28the specific path on where it can work.
  354. 14:31Now let's talk about what I'm going to
  355. 14:32ask it to do. So, um I have let's say
  356. 14:36for example, let me just I'm going to
  357. 14:37grab a bunch of uh receipts that I have
  358. 14:39here for the demo.
  359. 14:43Okay, just looking for the receipts
  360. 14:46here. Give me one second.
  361. 14:55Okay. And I'm going to grab all these
  362. 14:57receipts here. And just imagine for a
  363. 14:59second that all of these receipts were
  364. 15:02uh sent to your your clients send them
  365. 15:05to you via email or they put them in
  366. 15:07your Dropbox or they put them into your
  367. 15:10Google Drive or they put them into your
  368. 15:13um portal, right? What whatever way that
  369. 15:16you receive a bunch of documents from
  370. 15:19your uh from your client, just imagine
  371. 15:22that you got that and you then put them
  372. 15:23into this folder. Again, this is the
  373. 15:26only folder that this project has access
  374. 15:28to. And these receipts um do not have a
  375. 15:32naming like to let you know what each
  376. 15:34receipt is. They have like, you know,
  377. 15:36maybe the the the name that their client
  378. 15:39scanner uh gave it. So, if I pull up any
  379. 15:42of these specific receipts, you see what
  380. 15:44this looks like. Some sort of like wire
  381. 15:47transfer fee or whatever. And then I
  382. 15:49pull up another one and it's, you know,
  383. 15:51some some invoice for uh some
  384. 15:53construction services. Okay. Okay, so
  385. 15:54that gives a general idea. Your client
  386. 15:56dumped a bunch of receipts, a bunch of
  387. 15:59invoices into your portal or send them
  388. 16:02to you and they just sitting there and
  389. 16:04you want to organize them. So there's
  390. 16:05multiple ways we can organize them. And
  391. 16:06this is where obviously the prompting m
  392. 16:09uh um matters, but you kind of have to
  393. 16:12know what it can do. So the first thing
  394. 16:14I wanted to do is I wanted to uh rename
  395. 16:17all the files based on what's in each
  396. 16:21receipt. So, we're going to have it
  397. 16:22apply OCR, you know, character
  398. 16:24recognition, read it, infer what's in
  399. 16:27it, and rename the file for me.
  400. 16:31Rename all the files in this folder.
  401. 16:35These are all receipts. This is going to
  402. 16:37require you to read the receipt. And I
  403. 16:39want you to use the specific convention.
  404. 16:42I want you to put the date of the
  405. 16:44transaction first, then a hyphen, then
  406. 16:47the name of the vendor, then a hyphen,
  407. 16:50then the total dollar amount, then a
  408. 16:53hyphen, and for the last piece, I want
  409. 16:56you to give me a general category of
  410. 16:59what possibly could be the general
  411. 17:03theme, expense category or whatever, or
  412. 17:06that particular receipt. Okay, so that's
  413. 17:08the prompt I'm giving it. Okay. Uh, so I
  414. 17:11gave it the prompt and I I I use
  415. 17:12dictation software. Dictation software
  416. 17:14is like the biggest life hack. You know,
  417. 17:16there is um there's a whole bunch of
  418. 17:18different ones. Uh, your Mac has
  419. 17:20builtin, your Windows has builtin. I I
  420. 17:22usually pay for one called Whisper Flow.
  421. 17:25Uh, and that's what I use to do this and
  422. 17:26it it breaks things down for you and
  423. 17:29organizes your dictation which is like
  424. 17:30really really powerful. So now after I
  425. 17:33did that, I went ahead I'm going to go
  426. 17:34ahead and send that request and then
  427. 17:36it's going to start uh doing the
  428. 17:38analysis. First, it gave me a quick
  429. 17:40summary of saying this is the naming
  430. 17:42convention I want you to have. Okay, so
  431. 17:45it's going to rename all the files. It
  432. 17:47says ext. That means some of them could
  433. 17:50be PDFs, some of them could be JPEGs,
  434. 17:51whatever. So, it's just saying I'll
  435. 17:53maintain the same um extension at the
  436. 17:55end. Then it says right here, I found 42
  437. 17:58receipts. Again, just for context, all
  438. 18:01these files in this folder are uh the
  439. 18:04files that is working on. Let's just do
  440. 18:06it here in list mode. So, we got all
  441. 18:08these files in this folder. Again, they
  442. 18:10currently don't contain anything other
  443. 18:12than the data that's inside of it and a
  444. 18:15random name that doesn't mean anything
  445. 18:17to me. So, having them have names, that
  446. 18:21could be really powerful. So, that's the
  447. 18:22first step that we're going to do, just
  448. 18:24have it name.
  449. 18:26Okay, while it does that, because we do
  450. 18:28have to wait until it does its thing,
  451. 18:29I'm going to answer some of the live uh
  452. 18:32questions that are in the webinar. First
  453. 18:35question is, Hector, are there any
  454. 18:36security concerns with having a client
  455. 18:40with personal identifiable data while
  456. 18:43using Chad GPT? Great question. Um, I
  457. 18:47would say that I think that if you are
  458. 18:49an accountant and your job is to
  459. 18:52safeguard your client's data and you
  460. 18:54don't trust these systems and your
  461. 18:57client doesn't trust these systems, then
  462. 19:00you shouldn't use it. Period. I think
  463. 19:02that if you trust Chad GPT or trust
  464. 19:06claude and trust the public claims that
  465. 19:09they made that your data is not used to
  466. 19:12build the model when you are in their
  467. 19:14paid business commercial versions and
  468. 19:18your client also trust it and you're
  469. 19:19disclaiming to your client that you are
  470. 19:21using uh these systems to do that then I
  471. 19:24think it's totally safe. So I don't have
  472. 19:25a clear answer like is it safe yes or no
  473. 19:28it's more like it's a bit more nuanced.
  474. 19:31Um, that's kind of the way I I I I think
  475. 19:33about it. Okay. Someone someone's
  476. 19:36telling me, are there specific AIs
  477. 19:39uh like Claude or Microsoft Copilot or
  478. 19:44Google Gemini that are more safe than
  479. 19:46others? That's a that's a really good
  480. 19:47question. I don't have any empirical
  481. 19:50data to tell you that one is more safe
  482. 19:52than the other. So, uh, another question
  483. 19:54is, how do you prevent AI from
  484. 19:56hallucinating? That's a really um, good
  485. 19:59question. Hallucinating means it making
  486. 20:01up stuff. Now AI has gotten so [snorts]
  487. 20:04much better at not making up stuff. Uh
  488. 20:07particularly because the models have
  489. 20:09gotten so much better and you have the
  490. 20:12ability to uh increase
  491. 20:15you know how much smarter they get so to
  492. 20:17speak with these little things. So, if
  493. 20:19you don't want it to go if you if you
  494. 20:21prefer accuracy over speed, usually um
  495. 20:25you want to like just kind of push your
  496. 20:27smartness level, so to speak, your
  497. 20:29recency level as high as possible. And
  498. 20:32the higher you bring this up, the the
  499. 20:36less probable that it will make up
  500. 20:38stuff. Now, this is pretty pretty safe
  501. 20:40stuff right now, like it's just going
  502. 20:41through files and renaming them. You
  503. 20:43know, you can just like in accounting
  504. 20:45and audit, you can spot check them,
  505. 20:47right? open a couple and see, okay, is
  506. 20:48it about is it about what it's supposed
  507. 20:51to be? And if it's about what it's
  508. 20:52supposed to be, that's good enough.
  509. 20:54Okay, so it says it did it. It renamed
  510. 20:5642 files. It used this uh convention. Uh
  511. 21:00let's go into my folder and kind of see
  512. 21:02the end result. So, as you can tell from
  513. 21:05here, um it did rename some of the
  514. 21:07files, right? So, like this one is
  515. 21:09202511
  516. 21:11gusto $18,000 payroll. So, I'm going to
  517. 21:14go ahead and open it just to make sure
  518. 21:15that it's about that. Yeah, that's true.
  519. 21:18And the $18,000 is true. So, out of all
  520. 21:20the numbers there, it figured out what
  521. 21:22is the total and it figure out my vendor
  522. 21:24was Gusto. And it figure out um my
  523. 21:28expenses payroll. Let's grab another
  524. 21:30one. Again, we're just auditing this
  525. 21:32Lonear Plumbing. The total amount is
  526. 21:344,645.
  527. 21:36It looks like there's some plumbing
  528. 21:37supplies in here. Let's see what it it
  529. 21:39called it. Plumbing subcontractor. Okay,
  530. 21:42maybe it's accurate, maybe it's not, but
  531. 21:44it got me pretty close. And this is not
  532. 21:45doing any categorization in my system so
  533. 21:47to speak. This is just giving the files
  534. 21:49a better name. Now I want you to imagine
  535. 21:52you know a world in which you have been
  536. 21:54working with client files and all your
  537. 21:57client files were beautifully named like
  538. 21:59this. Like your world would be
  539. 22:02exponentially better. Like your life is
  540. 22:04exponentially better when the people you
  541. 22:06interact with give you stuff that's easy
  542. 22:08to work with instead of like a dump of a
  543. 22:10bunch of randomly named files. Okay. The
  544. 22:13other uh the other piece here is I can
  545. 22:15have I can have this group it by folders
  546. 22:18as I find that to be really interesting
  547. 22:19as well. So I can come in here and say
  548. 22:23I want you to group them by folders
  549. 22:25based on category. So the first folder
  550. 22:28is the category and then under the
  551. 22:31category the secondary folder would be
  552. 22:34the vendor or the payee.
  553. 22:36Okay. So that's the prompt I gave it.
  554. 22:38Right. So group and again you can give
  555. 22:40it anything you want. Okay.
  556. 22:42So, it can do that. While it does that,
  557. 22:44somebody's asking me, can you have it
  558. 22:46pull receipts uh from the body of an
  559. 22:49email? So, the answer is yes. Uh you
  560. 22:51would have to connect it with your uh
  561. 22:53Gmail or your Outlook and give a full
  562. 22:56access to be able to read all your
  563. 22:57emails for it to be able to extract
  564. 22:59those um attachments from that. Okay,
  565. 23:03let's see how it did with the folders.
  566. 23:05This is actually a much faster process.
  567. 23:08Notice now it put everything into nice
  568. 23:10little folders. Look at this. such a
  569. 23:11beautiful thing. Um, you know, sometimes
  570. 23:14I think of, you know, like the future
  571. 23:17accountants where all this stuff gets
  572. 23:19done automatically going back 20 years
  573. 23:21and think about like all the hours I
  574. 23:23spend creating little folders and
  575. 23:25grouping things in it. Like if you
  576. 23:27prepare taxes and somebody gives you
  577. 23:29three years worth of stuff, just say,
  578. 23:30"Hey, grab all the stuff, group it into
  579. 23:32each relevant year or group it into
  580. 23:35business versus personal or group it
  581. 23:37into what goes in uh what's deductible
  582. 23:39and what might not be deductible." And
  583. 23:41of course, you know, you still have to
  584. 23:42check the work. You are the accountant
  585. 23:44after all. But look, I double click on
  586. 23:46fuel. The vendor name is Loves Travel
  587. 23:49Stop. There's my two weird looking
  588. 23:52receipts from uh my gas, like my gas
  589. 23:55receipts. Okay. And actually I I all
  590. 23:58these sample data that I use for this
  591. 24:00webinar, I actually put that in a little
  592. 24:03Google Drive. So because a lot of people
  593. 24:05after this webinars get super excited,
  594. 24:06but then they don't want to use the real
  595. 24:08data. So I'm going to give you access to
  596. 24:10all these documents. I'm going to send
  597. 24:11you an email with all these with a
  598. 24:13folder where you can download and you
  599. 24:14can do the same testing just so you can
  600. 24:16get you get familiar with uh the
  601. 24:18workflow. Okay. Um so that's uh that's
  602. 24:22organization in general. I think it it
  603. 24:24could do it could do a really good job.
  604. 24:26Um, you could do things like like split
  605. 24:28the pages. So, let's just say for
  606. 24:30example, somebody gives you one big PDF
  607. 24:33and I could I could kind of show you
  608. 24:34that. Um, I can show you that. Let me
  609. 24:38just go back into my documents here. Um,
  610. 24:41uh, let me see. Do me a favor. Undo all
  611. 24:44of that and put the documents back to
  612. 24:47where they were before I did any
  613. 24:49changes. Now, because I didn't delete uh
  614. 24:52anything, it should be able to do that.
  615. 24:55It should be able to move the documents
  616. 24:56back and and put put them back. Uh I
  617. 24:59don't know if it can rename them again.
  618. 25:00I don't know if it if actually remembers
  619. 25:02the original name. Let's see if it
  620. 25:04retains the original name in there. But
  621. 25:06I wanted to show you one more thing
  622. 25:07that's actually pretty interesting. Um
  623. 25:09because you can you can have it uh uh
  624. 25:12either join PDFs together or split PDFs
  625. 25:18up, right? And I find that to be like a
  626. 25:20super fascinating approach. Uh because
  627. 25:23many times my client will give me one 46
  628. 25:26page PDF that contains like a whole
  629. 25:29bunch of different things and it's a
  630. 25:30pain in the butt to go through it and I
  631. 25:32want to split it up. Um or uh or the
  632. 25:35other way. Maybe they gave me a bunch of
  633. 25:36separate things and I want to group them
  634. 25:38by logical. So I want one PDF with all
  635. 25:40my gas receipts or one PDF with all my
  636. 25:42travel receipts or whatever happens to
  637. 25:44be. So let's have let's have it do that.
  638. 25:46Let me go back here. Let's see what
  639. 25:49happened. Okay, my files are gone.
  640. 25:51[laughter]
  641. 25:52Okay, so lesson learned, guys. Sometimes
  642. 25:55your files are gone. My files are gone.
  643. 25:56So, let me go back into my original
  644. 25:59documents that were here. I don't know
  645. 26:01what the heck happened. Uh, let me just
  646. 26:03copy them again. So, kind of happy this
  647. 26:07kind of happened on the fly. Like I
  648. 26:08would say, rule of thumb is always have
  649. 26:10your backups or oh wait, my files are
  650. 26:12not gone. Never mind. Never mind.
  651. 26:15um is the problem stands between the
  652. 26:18user and the keyboard. Sorry. Sorry. I
  653. 26:20was scrolled out. My files are still
  654. 26:22there. Pause alarm. Okay. Anyway, sorry.
  655. 26:24People are probably freaking out. The
  656. 26:26files were gone. No, the files were gone
  657. 26:27from from my visibility, not from the
  658. 26:29computer. They're there. Okay. So, I'm
  659. 26:31going to have it do something else.
  660. 26:33Now, what I want you to do is I want you
  661. 26:35to read all the files and find vendors
  662. 26:38in common. So if there's two or three
  663. 26:41receipts that are all the same vendor,
  664. 26:43uh group them all as the same PDF and
  665. 26:46then rename uh each of that PDF whether
  666. 26:49it contains a single receipt or multiple
  667. 26:51receipts. Rename it just the name of the
  668. 26:54vendor and then after the vendor name
  669. 26:56tell me how many documents were joined
  670. 26:59together.
  671. 27:02Again we're getting very creative here.
  672. 27:04I'm trying to give you like all these
  673. 27:06edge cases in like different ways you
  674. 27:08would think about organizing uh sort of
  675. 27:11client files. Okay, different different
  676. 27:14uh ways um you know to kind of approach
  677. 27:18uh data file organization
  678. 27:21and then after we're done with this then
  679. 27:22we're going to talk about data
  680. 27:23manipulation and this is actually this
  681. 27:25is technically sort of uh data
  682. 27:27manipulation because we're like you know
  683. 27:29putting them together. I actually didn't
  684. 27:32tell it to Did I tell it to join it? Did
  685. 27:34I tell it to actually create a single
  686. 27:36PDF? Uh, we'll see. Uh, yeah, I did say
  687. 27:39join together. Okay, I think it's pretty
  688. 27:41clear that it's not like create a little
  689. 27:44folder unless it's creating little
  690. 27:46folders, but we'll see. Um, okay. While
  691. 27:48that does that, let me see more
  692. 27:49questions. A lot of your questions are
  693. 27:50coming in. Uh, William says, "Do you
  694. 27:53have a PDF editor app that's linked to
  695. 27:56Chat JPT you would recommend? Um, does
  696. 27:59it combine or separate PDFs on its own?
  697. 28:01So, William, I'm not trying to answer
  698. 28:02you the combination question um and
  699. 28:05separation question. That's actually
  700. 28:06what I'm doing now. But in terms of like
  701. 28:08a PDF editor that I would recommend that
  702. 28:10talks to Chad GPT, I don't um I don't
  703. 28:13have a recommendation. That's actually a
  704. 28:15really good question. I'm going to be on
  705. 28:16the search for one. Actually, I know it
  706. 28:19can go into the uh PDF and edit uh
  707. 28:22things in the PDF. I know it can do
  708. 28:24that. Now when PDFs are scanned, you
  709. 28:26know, versus the original digital PDF
  710. 28:29gets a little trickier, right? Because
  711. 28:31like some not all text comes in as text,
  712. 28:33some comes in as image. But I know it
  713. 28:35can do certain uh manipulation in the
  714. 28:37PDF in it. Yeah. Okay. Uh let me see. Uh
  715. 28:43if you scan multiple receipts into one C
  716. 28:46uh PDF, will it separate out for you?
  717. 28:48The answer is yes. And that's kind of
  718. 28:49like what I'm showing you here. I'm
  719. 28:50showing you the joining, but I'll show
  720. 28:52you the separation um in a little bit
  721. 28:54while while this still um finishes that.
  722. 28:57Let's see what else we got in the
  723. 28:58questions.
  724. 29:00Okay, I think that answered all the
  725. 29:01questions. Actually, good good job,
  726. 29:03guys. Uh oh, somebody's asking which
  727. 29:06version of Chad GBT you're using. So,
  728. 29:08I'm using the $100 a month version u on
  729. 29:11this particular demo, but for my firm,
  730. 29:14we use the $30 a month version. So, uh,
  731. 29:16and the $30 a month version is good
  732. 29:18enough. The team version, it's good
  733. 29:20enough. Okay. So, here's like my list of
  734. 29:22the PDFs that are being created. Uh, and
  735. 29:25look, we have a couple of the ones that
  736. 29:27we're going to focus on, which is all
  737. 29:28the ones that have um, uh, the merging
  738. 29:31on them. So, let me go into the folder
  739. 29:34and kind of see what that looks like.
  740. 29:38I'm going to sort it by size, assuming
  741. 29:39that the bigger ones have the most. So,
  742. 29:41this one's called Iron Cut Builders. It
  743. 29:43has nine documents in total. If I double
  744. 29:45click on that, I can see that there's
  745. 29:47multiple pages.
  746. 29:49So, you saw an example for joining uh
  747. 29:53there. Okay, cool. Awesome. Okay, so I'm
  748. 29:55going to show you another example.
  749. 29:58I'm going to separate now. So, I'm going
  750. 29:59to pull up uh let's see what we have
  751. 30:01here. I got this uh tax return package
  752. 30:07and I'm going to put and by the way,
  753. 30:09this is all sample data. This is not
  754. 30:10like real client data anywhere. So, let
  755. 30:13me just put here receipts.
  756. 30:17Okay. And I'm going to dump all the
  757. 30:18receipts into that folder just so we can
  758. 30:21kind of get them out of the way. Um, and
  759. 30:25now I'm going to paste this PDF uh Smith
  760. 30:29with complete tax package. So, when I
  761. 30:31click on this, this is basically one big
  762. 30:34PDF
  763. 30:36that contains 21 pages and contains
  764. 30:39everything together. W2, 1098,
  765. 30:421098E,
  766. 30:44uh interest statement, uh some social
  767. 30:47security thing, right? Some documents
  768. 30:51in here, some uh investment documents
  769. 30:54and a bunch of pages, just like a like a
  770. 30:56bunch of stuff, right? So, uh now I'm
  771. 30:59going to tell it to grab this uh tax
  772. 31:02package. I'm just going to um copy the
  773. 31:05name here and say okay I'll start a new
  774. 31:08new chat under the same project and say
  775. 31:12there is a file
  776. 31:18uh with
  777. 31:21a bunch of tax docs. Let me go back to
  778. 31:25the dictate.
  779. 31:27And I want you to create a little folder
  780. 31:30for the year that it belongs to. And
  781. 31:32then under that folder, I want you to
  782. 31:34have a subfolder in terms of what the
  783. 31:37type of docs that it is. So whether it's
  784. 31:39a W2, a 1099, group them by the type of
  785. 31:43document, and then separate or extract
  786. 31:45the pages related to what goes into each
  787. 31:48folder.
  788. 31:51Okay, let's see how how well is it does
  789. 31:54this. Okay, so it's going to go into the
  790. 31:56folder, inspect the files, look page by
  791. 31:59page, create the folder type. So like
  792. 32:01I'm showing you now, sort of like the
  793. 32:03pinnacle of organization. You got one
  794. 32:05big PDF. Now you you're asking it to
  795. 32:08make decisions, right? Not on the
  796. 32:10category, but on the type of document
  797. 32:11that it is, and you know, keep, you
  798. 32:13know, keep them together if they're the
  799. 32:15same pages or whatever. We're going to
  800. 32:17see how well it does that. Okay. So
  801. 32:19right here it says look I found the
  802. 32:21first page first seven pages are
  803. 32:23individual forms. Pages 8 to 21 is one
  804. 32:26continuous brokerage statement. I'll
  805. 32:28preserve the 14page statement as a
  806. 32:30single document. It's beautiful. So
  807. 32:32that's all the thinking for me. Like
  808. 32:34sometimes I I I worry about like you
  809. 32:37know how we figure out you know
  810. 32:40how what our brand new employees
  811. 32:44uh will do in our firms because like I
  812. 32:47like if if this was a brand new employee
  813. 32:48and I would I would be telling them to
  814. 32:50do this they would go back to me three
  815. 32:52times and ask me what should I do about
  816. 32:53this? What should I do about that? You
  817. 32:55know how should I handle these pages?
  818. 32:56You know what should I call this? And
  819. 32:58these systems just like don't ask any
  820. 33:01follow questions. They just know almost
  821. 33:04like logically what um what what needs
  822. 33:08to be done. So that I find that to be
  823. 33:10particularly fascinating. So okay. So
  824. 33:13let's wait until that finishes uh doing
  825. 33:15that.
  826. 33:17Let's see any other questions. So Cheryl
  827. 33:19says, "Does a bookmark in the packages?"
  828. 33:22I'm not sure what that means, Cheryl. I
  829. 33:23haven't tried a bookmark. Uh something I
  830. 33:26could try my own. Somebody says, "Can we
  831. 33:29uh uh file organization documents with
  832. 33:32Microsoft as well?" So, Karina, I I
  833. 33:35don't use uh any of the doc Microsoft
  834. 33:37products. I'm a Mac user, so I don't
  835. 33:38want to I don't want to say yes or no,
  836. 33:40but I know that this stuff chat JPT or
  837. 33:43Cloud Co-work. It's miles ahead uh
  838. 33:46versus Microsoft Copilot if that's what
  839. 33:49you're asking. Now, technically, if you
  840. 33:51give access to SharePoint, it should be
  841. 33:53able to do all these things inside
  842. 33:55SharePoint if that's what you're asking.
  843. 33:57like if you connect it to your you know
  844. 33:59your cloud-based document uh um
  845. 34:02repository is it better okay so let's
  846. 34:05see uh where we are okay so here's a
  847. 34:08document called output uh and then we
  848. 34:10have document called PDF and then we
  849. 34:12have document called tax documents then
  850. 34:14we have 2025 and then we have look at
  851. 34:17this such a beautiful thing it has each
  852. 34:19of these things
  853. 34:21uh organized so each of these documents
  854. 34:23are inside their folder and even went in
  855. 34:26and renamed in each of the files. So, it
  856. 34:28makes it super easy to look at. That's
  857. 34:31just awesome. That's just great stuff.
  858. 34:32Okay. Now, let's have it create a um a
  859. 34:37document. So, let's follow uh on the
  860. 34:40same chat that we have here and say,
  861. 34:43okay, great. So, inside the 2025 folder,
  862. 34:46for example, which is all for Smith, I
  863. 34:50want you to create one Excel document
  864. 34:53that maps out all the documents that are
  865. 34:57in this folder and also creates a tax
  866. 35:00summary of all the items that could
  867. 35:03affect the tax return. uh I don't want
  868. 35:05you to calculate any tax for now but
  869. 35:07just all the items and kind of like have
  870. 35:10a total potential taxable income that
  871. 35:13all these documents uh uh represent and
  872. 35:17and this is for the purpose of me as a
  873. 35:20tax preparer having a work document
  874. 35:23right before I prepare the tax return
  875. 35:24that gives me a quick snapshot of
  876. 35:26everything that I'm about to look at and
  877. 35:28where do I find all these things? Oh,
  878. 35:30and also as an added bonus, I want you
  879. 35:32to add a little hyperlink in that Excel
  880. 35:35file. Uh, because it sits in the root
  881. 35:37folder, add a hyperlink where I can
  882. 35:39click on it and I can open the file
  883. 35:41directly while I'm looking at the Excel
  884. 35:43file.
  885. 35:45That's a lot. [laughter]
  886. 35:47Let's go ahead and send that and see
  887. 35:49what happens. Um, and then I'm having
  888. 35:52some questions about handwritten
  889. 35:54documents. Like, how would you manage
  890. 35:56handwritten documents? How does it
  891. 35:58recognize um uh handwritten documents?
  892. 36:01Good question. I think the best thing to
  893. 36:04do is to test it. So, I got to go find a
  894. 36:07handwritten document somewhere uh to to
  895. 36:10show you uh the example of well these
  896. 36:12kind of things. Let me see if I can find
  897. 36:14a handwritten document somewhere.
  898. 36:19Okay, perfect. [gasps]
  899. 36:27Okay, this is still thinking and I'm
  900. 36:28like doing the work now trying to find a
  901. 36:31handwritten document for you. So, I did
  902. 36:34find it. Beautiful thing. Got it right
  903. 36:36in front of me. Handwritten document.
  904. 36:39And I'm going to take a picture of the
  905. 36:40document and put it in my chat GPT. So,
  906. 36:43we can kind of see how that works.
  907. 36:51Perfect. All right. So, this still still
  908. 36:53thinking and we're waiting for this to
  909. 36:55think. But while we're doing this sort
  910. 36:56of dynamically, I am going to go ahead
  911. 36:58and receive
  912. 37:01the handwritten document.
  913. 37:03Um, so I can also see what that looks
  914. 37:07like. So, here's a handwritten document.
  915. 37:09So, let's say, for example, some client,
  916. 37:11which I'm not really happy about, uh,
  917. 37:13basically on a white piece of paper went
  918. 37:15in there and wrote the address of a
  919. 37:18property, a bunch of stuff that refers
  920. 37:20to like rental income, maintenance, some
  921. 37:22chicken scratch here, improvements, HOA,
  922. 37:25some notes about like I paid X amount
  923. 37:28for the property back in this and I
  924. 37:30moved out and I bought a I got it and I
  925. 37:31got a mortgage for 7%. It's great
  926. 37:33example, I think probably a bit of an
  927. 37:36extreme one, but a great example of
  928. 37:38okay, I got this like highly chicken
  929. 37:41scratched handwritten document with like
  930. 37:43some potential re relevant information
  931. 37:46on uh for the tax return. So, we will um
  932. 37:50go ahead and and have it process that as
  933. 37:52soon as we're done with uh uh all the
  934. 37:56current tasks that is working on. So,
  935. 37:58I'm going to move that into the demo.
  936. 38:01Okay. So, I have So, I I got the folder
  937. 38:04there waiting for me um right here. So,
  938. 38:07we're gonna have it uh process that
  939. 38:09afterwards. I'm just going to copy the
  940. 38:10name. I'm just going to call it
  941. 38:12handwritten
  942. 38:15rental thing. Okay. So, I got the
  943. 38:17handwritten rental thing in here. Um and
  944. 38:20then I'm going to have it look at that
  945. 38:21and build something for me. like
  946. 38:23actually like build a readable spread
  947. 38:27workable spreadsheet uh for me that I
  948. 38:30can use to um to to have something that
  949. 38:34makes sense in uh in my tax file. Okay,
  950. 38:38so this is still again that just for
  951. 38:40some context this is still working on
  952. 38:41that Excel file. So building Excel files
  953. 38:43is a little bit takes a little longer
  954. 38:45and also I told it to like give it some
  955. 38:49like tax thinking. So, it's actually
  956. 38:51going through like the thinking process
  957. 38:54and saying, you know, what is potential
  958. 38:56taxable income? Maybe, you know, like
  959. 38:57it's just doing a lot of extra thinking.
  960. 38:59And I probably could have said, just
  961. 39:00give me a summary and like don't like
  962. 39:02try to figure out what's taxable and
  963. 39:04what's not. Obviously, everything you
  964. 39:06put in a prompt, we covered this on on
  965. 39:10part one of this webinar series, is like
  966. 39:12that prompt completely changes the
  967. 39:14direction of the work that this is going
  968. 39:17to do. So, it's just really valuable to
  969. 39:20have like just really well defined uh
  970. 39:23exactly what you um what you're going to
  971. 39:25do with the prompt. Okay, still still
  972. 39:27thinking. So, we're going to give it
  973. 39:28some time. I'm just going to go into the
  974. 39:31folder where that uh Excel file will
  975. 39:34live. And there's an Excel file here. I
  976. 39:38don't want to open it yet because it's
  977. 39:40still doing things. Uh so, I don't want
  978. 39:42to like affect it, but it looks like it
  979. 39:43it's already like in the process. So,
  980. 39:45there's the Excel file sitting there
  981. 39:47right there waiting for me to open it
  982. 39:49and to make a decision on what I'm going
  983. 39:52to uh do uh do um do with it. Okay. Uh
  984. 39:57somebody says, "What happens with the
  985. 39:58hyperlinks once you move the documents
  986. 40:00out of the folder?" So, the Lis Lisa,
  987. 40:02the answer is they die, right? The
  988. 40:04hyperlinks are dependent on the fact
  989. 40:06that you don't move stuff out of the
  990. 40:08folder. So, obviously that hyperlink
  991. 40:10thing, it's like let's call it it's an
  992. 40:12added bonus. Okay. Um, another question
  993. 40:15is, can I start a new chat or a new task
  994. 40:18while I'm working on this one? The
  995. 40:20answer is yes, I can. And historically,
  996. 40:22when I do webinars, I used to be all
  997. 40:24over the place where I I'm doing one
  998. 40:25thing and I'm saying, "Okay, let's put
  999. 40:27that on pause. Let's do the next thing.
  1000. 40:28Let's put that on pause. Let's do the
  1001. 40:30next thing." But then, like during a
  1002. 40:31webinar, people are like, "Wait, what
  1003. 40:32what task is he working on?" So, I am no
  1004. 40:35longer doing live webinars multitasking
  1005. 40:39tasks on the fly. Okay? Like I said, it
  1006. 40:41just it just becomes really confusing.
  1007. 40:43So, I'm just going to like stick into
  1008. 40:45stick into this one thing that we're
  1009. 40:47doing and not have it do something
  1010. 40:48simultaneously, mostly for the grace of
  1011. 40:51the audience, not like being super lost
  1012. 40:53on where they are. Um, let me see. Can I
  1013. 40:56do facial recognition on images? For
  1014. 40:58example, I have a folder full of images
  1015. 41:00and I want to learn what the individual
  1016. 41:02looks like and pull images of that
  1017. 41:04specific individual into a new folder.
  1018. 41:06William, great question. I have not
  1019. 41:07tested that. I know um Apple does that
  1020. 41:10really well in in the f you know with
  1021. 41:12the phones with the pictures on the
  1022. 41:13phones you know identifying the person
  1023. 41:16but I I have never like done it with
  1024. 41:20Chaji PT and I and I and to be honest
  1025. 41:23with you even if PT could I would say
  1026. 41:26it's so uh intensive that I think it
  1027. 41:29would like stop in the middle of it. Um
  1028. 41:32okay so here's the the Excel file. Let's
  1029. 41:36go ahead and open that Excel file. Let's
  1030. 41:38see what that looks like. Let me bring
  1031. 41:40it over to the monitor that we're
  1032. 41:43working on. Give me a second. Click and
  1033. 41:45drag this bad boy here. And let's go and
  1034. 41:48zoom in. [clears throat]
  1035. 41:51200%. Maybe that's too much. 150%. Just
  1036. 41:54right. Okay. So, here's the um the Excel
  1037. 41:58that it wrote for me. Here's the
  1038. 41:59potential taxable income. Again, imagine
  1039. 42:02a world, especially if you're a tax
  1040. 42:03preparer, where all your tax files are
  1041. 42:05organized like that and you have a
  1042. 42:07summary of everything that could
  1043. 42:09possibly be, you know, that way when you
  1044. 42:11prepare tax return, you're not cut by
  1045. 42:13surprise. So, here's the W2 wages, bank
  1046. 42:16interest, brokerage interest, and again,
  1047. 42:18I'm going to give you access to all
  1048. 42:19these documents so you can do the test
  1049. 42:21yourself and audit it and see how
  1050. 42:23accurate it is and all that stuff.
  1051. 42:24Here's some potential uh tax return
  1052. 42:27stuff. Okay. Uh let's see the document
  1053. 42:30index. Okay, here's the uh all the
  1054. 42:33different documents.
  1055. 42:35Okay, the W2, the 1098. Uh the
  1056. 42:39explanation of what it is. Uh review
  1057. 42:41status, whatever that means. Uh here's a
  1058. 42:44link to open the PDF. Uh something's
  1059. 42:46broken with the link. I'm clicking on
  1060. 42:48it. It's not working. But maybe I can
  1061. 42:51like go back and say, "Hey, I'm having
  1062. 42:52an issue opening the file." Have it go
  1063. 42:54back and troubleshoot. But at least
  1064. 42:56built the the general uh concept that I
  1065. 42:59wanted, which is just a table that
  1066. 43:01explains what's in it. What's the what's
  1067. 43:03the name of the file? I mean, just with
  1068. 43:04the name of the file, that's strong
  1069. 43:06enough. Uh tax items. Here's like a sort
  1070. 43:08of a breakdown of the tax items. I find
  1071. 43:11this to be also pretty interesting.
  1072. 43:13Okay, so it's actually extracting lines
  1073. 43:16from each of the document and telling
  1074. 43:19you, you know, potentially, you know,
  1075. 43:21where they're coming from and what they
  1076. 43:23could mean. I mean, come on, man. This
  1077. 43:25is like it's like another level of the
  1078. 43:27type open items. Here's all the things I
  1079. 43:30couldn't figure out or wasn't sure, you
  1080. 43:32know, if it could make any difference,
  1081. 43:34right? So, I I really welcome you to try
  1082. 43:36this. You get a get a get a simulated
  1083. 43:39client file if you want don't want to
  1084. 43:41use real client information. have it in
  1085. 43:43there, have it do summaries and kind of
  1086. 43:44like just watch it work and be blown
  1087. 43:47away for what it can do from
  1088. 43:49organization
  1089. 43:51uh standpoint and um and creating
  1090. 43:54documents relate related to that. Okay,
  1091. 43:57let's uh I'm going to X out of that and
  1092. 44:00I'm going to have it just look at this
  1093. 44:02one document, the handwritten one. Okay,
  1094. 44:04the handwritten rental thing. I'm gonna
  1095. 44:07say
  1096. 44:09I'll start a new chat here really quick
  1097. 44:11and I'll say I have a file named
  1098. 44:18that is some handwriting chicken scratch
  1099. 44:20thing about a rental property. I want
  1100. 44:22you to create a spreadsheet for me that
  1101. 44:24is for my tax prep purposes. Organize
  1102. 44:28everything into what it would look like
  1103. 44:30in a schedule E. figure out possibly
  1104. 44:33what's the split between uh interest and
  1105. 44:36principal, if there's any mortgage
  1106. 44:38information, um information about the
  1107. 44:40asset or potential appreciation, etc.
  1108. 44:44Again, I'm priming the prompt a little
  1109. 44:46bit. Um I generally I would say just
  1110. 44:48help me figure out by what this
  1111. 44:51handwritten hot mess thing is and just
  1112. 44:53have it like figure it out. But I gave
  1113. 44:55it a little bit of you know tax [snorts]
  1114. 44:56context. It's like hey this, you know,
  1115. 44:58this could be a file for my schedule E.
  1116. 45:00So, I'm taking it kind of like one step
  1117. 45:02further because as accountants, most of
  1118. 45:04us wouldn't be like open this file,
  1119. 45:06figure out what to do. It would be more
  1120. 45:08like I have a general idea of what I
  1121. 45:10want to do with a file. That way,
  1122. 45:12without additional context, not just you
  1123. 45:15get it to do something more purposeful,
  1124. 45:17but like for the purpose of the webinar,
  1125. 45:18when you look at it, you're like, ah,
  1126. 45:20this is related to accounting, right?
  1127. 45:21Because I don't want it to go off the
  1128. 45:22tangent and just do some random thing
  1129. 45:24with that document that's not related to
  1130. 45:26like work. Although it could be
  1131. 45:28interesting to see, you know, what are
  1132. 45:30all the different interesting things you
  1133. 45:31could do with this document? That could
  1134. 45:33be pretty interesting. Um, uh, but now
  1135. 45:37some somebody's commenting about like
  1136. 45:39this functionality being inside document
  1137. 45:43management system. So, I actually agree.
  1138. 45:45I believe that your practice management
  1139. 45:47system, your uh, document management
  1140. 45:49system should have all this stuff built
  1141. 45:52in. This is like too many extra steps
  1142. 45:55for me to like grab the documents that
  1143. 45:57the client uploaded, put them in a
  1144. 45:59folder in my computer, do all the work,
  1145. 46:02and then copy them back, right? Like
  1146. 46:04that that feels like a round trip.
  1147. 46:06That's like one way too many. I mean,
  1148. 46:08what like just too many steps. And the
  1149. 46:10reality is that like the practice
  1150. 46:12management software and document
  1151. 46:14management software seriously seriously
  1152. 46:16needs to um like like level up. Take a
  1153. 46:21look at these things. look at these
  1154. 46:22webinars level up. They just they're
  1155. 46:24just not there yet. But the nice thing
  1156. 46:25about showing them in CHIGP unclaud that
  1157. 46:28it gives you a glimpse into the
  1158. 46:30possibilities and the capabilities. And
  1159. 46:32with that glimpse, it gives you more
  1160. 46:34clarity around what to expect from these
  1161. 46:37software companies. So next time you're
  1162. 46:39in a demo and they're selling you the
  1163. 46:41world and they're saying, "Oh, this app
  1164. 46:42can do this and this app can do that."
  1165. 46:44Um, after you go through several
  1166. 46:46iterations of this exercise, you feel a
  1167. 46:49little bit better equipped on knowing
  1168. 46:51what to ask. Okay. Hey, you know, can I
  1169. 46:53do this? Will it do this? Um, and you
  1170. 46:55put a little bit more pressure in the
  1171. 46:56software companies to make it more
  1172. 46:59functional inside of their cloud-based
  1173. 47:02system because again, putting stuff in
  1174. 47:04your computer, working on your computer,
  1175. 47:06and working back is not that um that
  1176. 47:09that that uh practical. Now, Jack has a
  1177. 47:13question. is when should you you use
  1178. 47:14projects instead of just using chat? So,
  1179. 47:17I am on chat mode, but the reason I'm
  1180. 47:19doing projects is because you want all
  1181. 47:22tasks that are um repetitive that
  1182. 47:27they're the same thing or about the same
  1183. 47:29thing, you want them in a project. Why?
  1184. 47:32Because even though I'm doing this live
  1185. 47:34and I make this look super easy, in the
  1186. 47:37real world, you're going to be doing a
  1187. 47:38lot of troubleshooting. And in that
  1188. 47:40troubleshooting, there is learning.
  1189. 47:43>> [clears throat]
  1190. 47:43>> and all the context, all the memory, all
  1191. 47:46the learning, all the insights from you
  1192. 47:49going to the process and like knowing
  1193. 47:51how to prompt, what to prompt, and what
  1194. 47:54you're learning from the prompts that
  1195. 47:55you're attempting to do. They're
  1196. 47:57actually a lot it's actually a lot more
  1197. 48:00practical
  1198. 48:02to have it in a project because you
  1199. 48:03don't have to go back and give it the
  1200. 48:05same prompts and go back and tell it
  1201. 48:06about the same learnings so to so to
  1202. 48:09speak about the prompts. So that's why
  1203. 48:12projects are so valuable, especially
  1204. 48:14when they're within this context of a
  1205. 48:17task that you plan to repeat over and
  1206. 48:19over and over.
  1207. 48:22Okay, cool. Thank you for that question.
  1208. 48:23That's great. Great question. And yeah,
  1209. 48:26so a couple you got questions about um
  1210. 48:28copies of the slides or access to the
  1211. 48:32documents or access to the recordings.
  1212. 48:34All that stuff is going to be um given
  1213. 48:36to you. Um, and I and I asked the RAM
  1214. 48:39team to send me a list of all the
  1215. 48:41attendees so I can send you access to
  1216. 48:43all the stuff, you know, that's like
  1217. 48:45sort of beyond the slides in the
  1218. 48:47recording so I give you access to the
  1219. 48:48documents, too. So, you're going to wait
  1220. 48:49for an email from me in the next couple
  1221. 48:51days that contains access to all the
  1222. 48:53stuff because I do want you like if
  1223. 48:55there's something that I want you to do
  1224. 48:56is I want you to try to replicate this
  1225. 48:58on your side. Like I get to the point
  1226. 49:00that you're like, "Wow, everything that
  1227. 49:01Hector did, it doesn't just sit in a
  1228. 49:03webinar. It's something I feel I can do
  1229. 49:05on my own." Right? Like I said, that's
  1230. 49:07really where like your confidence will
  1231. 49:09get boost boosted and then like you'll
  1232. 49:11feel like you're getting a lot from
  1233. 49:13these webinars. Okay. So, uh where's the
  1234. 49:16document uh that this thing is? Let me
  1235. 49:19open it in Excel
  1236. 49:22and let me click and drag this here to
  1237. 49:24my monitor. Okay. So, here's a document.
  1238. 49:27Again, we had this weird handwritten
  1239. 49:30thing that we weren't 100% sure what it
  1240. 49:32was. It wasn't supposed to make sense to
  1241. 49:35an accountant. It makes sense to the
  1242. 49:36client. We had Chad PT go through the
  1243. 49:39exercise and figure things out for us.
  1244. 49:42Let's pull the document again just so we
  1245. 49:44can see it in context. So, I got a
  1246. 49:48handwritten document if you want to take
  1247. 49:49a picture of this so you can look at it
  1248. 49:51in your phone while I look at the Excel
  1249. 49:54file so we can see what it picked up. We
  1250. 49:56have rental income information, what
  1251. 49:58looks like some expenses related to that
  1252. 50:00property. We have the address of the
  1253. 50:02property. We have uh what apparently a
  1254. 50:05note about how much they paid for the
  1255. 50:06property when and when they moved out.
  1256. 50:09And and that's my that's my chicken
  1257. 50:11scratch. I should have been a doctor. I
  1258. 50:12know. Uh pay 20% down, 7% mortgage.
  1259. 50:15Again, trying to simulate, you know, the
  1260. 50:17real world. Our clients send us all this
  1261. 50:19crap, right? So, uh we had to process
  1262. 50:22this and this is what it came up with.
  1263. 50:24Okay. So, first thing is is we got rents
  1264. 50:26received. It actually tells me where in
  1265. 50:29the schedule E this will go. And I would
  1266. 50:32love to like test this in the real
  1267. 50:33world. We might not have time here. Um,
  1268. 50:35so here's the amount. The status is
  1269. 50:37confirmed. Confirmed it. Okay. So, it
  1270. 50:39just looked at the document. Then it it
  1271. 50:42went ahead and and added the lines in
  1272. 50:44the schedule E and saying, "Look, look,
  1273. 50:46there's no amount provided here." So,
  1274. 50:47that's pretty cool. Okay. Um, and then
  1275. 50:50it goes in and just kind of breaks
  1276. 50:51everything down for me. It's got
  1277. 50:53mortgage interest paid to banks. Now I
  1278. 50:55wonder whether it uh changed the number.
  1279. 51:00Okay, so this is interesting. So the
  1280. 51:02original document says mortgage payments
  1281. 51:0418,000. And there's a reason why I put I
  1282. 51:07paid 20% down 7% mortgage whatever.
  1283. 51:11Specific reason why I did that is
  1284. 51:12because I wanted to see if it's smart
  1285. 51:13enough to not just grab the mortgage
  1286. 51:16payments, put them into interest, and
  1287. 51:18and try to figure out what it's the
  1288. 51:20potential uh real interest uh that I
  1289. 51:23have to extract from here. I find it
  1290. 51:25pretty awesome. Here's a tentative uh uh
  1291. 51:28rental uh real estate. Here's some like
  1292. 51:31open items that is telling you, look,
  1293. 51:32you should probably look into these
  1294. 51:34things. you know like none of this stuff
  1295. 51:36is you know I had to make a lot of
  1296. 51:38assumptions to get there but you know
  1297. 51:40support you know is there a fair market
  1298. 51:41value convent comversion
  1299. 51:44when you went from personal to business
  1300. 51:46you know get the actual closing
  1301. 51:48statements actually walking you through
  1302. 51:50you know what would the open items be
  1303. 51:52you know because just what it gave me
  1304. 51:54wasn't enough let's see the inputs and
  1305. 51:56assumptions so that's pretty cool also
  1306. 51:58so here's the inputs it picked up the
  1307. 52:00tax year I guess implied on the
  1308. 52:02conversation right picked up the
  1309. 52:04address, picked up the rental start date
  1310. 52:06when it moved out. Not that important.
  1311. 52:09Um, here's, you know, some some
  1312. 52:11information here. Another summary
  1313. 52:12summary of what was handwritten. Here's
  1314. 52:14uh some mortgage assumptions, right? So,
  1315. 52:16I purchased like if you're not listen if
  1316. 52:19you're not blown away like if you're an
  1317. 52:21accounting professional and you're not
  1318. 52:23blown away by this and like high-fiving
  1319. 52:25everybody that's around you or like
  1320. 52:27high-fiving yourself because you're just
  1321. 52:29blown away at like how much AI has come
  1322. 52:32along and the stuff that it can do. I'm
  1323. 52:34sorry to say you got no soul. Anyway,
  1324. 52:38that's a joke by the way. I didn't mean
  1325. 52:39that literally. Okay, that's that's my
  1326. 52:41that's my that joke that I always say.
  1327. 52:43So, there's the purchase price, there's
  1328. 52:45the down payment, there's a calculated
  1329. 52:47loan amount. Again, it's an exact no.
  1330. 52:49Um, and here's and look, even tells you
  1331. 52:51little notes saying, "Hey, I made this
  1332. 52:53assumption. I assumed it was 30 years,
  1333. 52:56right?" And then you can change it here.
  1334. 52:58And I assume that if you change it, the
  1335. 53:00numbers change. I guess not. Or maybe um
  1336. 53:03I guess we have to tell it, hey, make
  1337. 53:04sure that formulas are dynamic. If I
  1338. 53:06could change things. Uh got the purchase
  1339. 53:08date here. And then it's trying to
  1340. 53:10figure out, okay, like based on this,
  1341. 53:11I'm going to make a mortgage estimate.
  1342. 53:13And of course, the thing did a freaking
  1343. 53:16um amortization schedule. Uh again,
  1344. 53:19simulated amortization schedule based on
  1345. 53:21the little notes that it read from it to
  1346. 53:23extract principle and interest. Okay, it
  1347. 53:26did this all on its own. I didn't tell
  1348. 53:28it to do I mean, I kind of told it to do
  1349. 53:29that, but it kind of figured this out.
  1350. 53:31It figure out the period, you know,
  1351. 53:33which this belongs to. It didn't even
  1352. 53:34take the whole year. It took part part
  1353. 53:37of the year. So it's like the note says
  1354. 53:40that I started renting it in April. So
  1355. 53:42it's not going to give you the whole
  1356. 53:43thing. It's just going to give you that
  1357. 53:44piece. Okay. Then we got depreciation
  1358. 53:47and the thing even assumes depreciation.
  1359. 53:50Okay. So there's I I wrote there's a
  1360. 53:53there's a line. Let me show you. There's
  1361. 53:55a line for improvements. So it's also
  1362. 53:57making the assumption that improvements
  1363. 53:59are not, you know, deductible. It took
  1364. 54:02them out of the schedule E. it put them
  1365. 54:05into this other schedule for
  1366. 54:06improvements and it's giving you some
  1367. 54:09potential uh depreciation. Okay, here it
  1368. 54:13says um uh rental building depreciable
  1369. 54:16basis 360. Why is it using uh a
  1370. 54:19difference? I would love to know why
  1371. 54:21it's not using 450. Uh maybe separating
  1372. 54:24land like who knows like I would have to
  1373. 54:25go into a little bit deeper to figure
  1374. 54:27out how he came up how he came up with
  1375. 54:29that. And then some source notes. So, I
  1376. 54:31actually went in there and says, "Here,
  1377. 54:32look, based on everything that I did,
  1378. 54:34here's everything that I did. Here's my
  1379. 54:36confidence level. Here's some notes
  1380. 54:38about what I did." Woof. I mean, I I'm
  1381. 54:41just like, I'm telling you, I do this
  1382. 54:44once a week. I do a webinar. I do I do a
  1383. 54:46different example each time, by the way.
  1384. 54:48Like, I literally just hand wrote this
  1385. 54:50note um uh earlier today just in case
  1386. 54:54somebody were to ask me about a
  1387. 54:56handwritten note, and I went ahead and
  1388. 54:57did it. Um, but it's I'm blown away
  1389. 55:00every time I give it like a new little
  1390. 55:02like thing and and just what it can do.
  1391. 55:06Uh, so it's just like just really really
  1392. 55:08really great. Really great. Just blown
  1393. 55:11away. So I'm going to give you I'm
  1394. 55:12saving all these documents and what I'll
  1395. 55:14do is I'll I'll put them in a I'll put
  1396. 55:15them in a folder and uh once I email you
  1397. 55:19and um and and let you know um
  1398. 55:23copies of the slice of stuff, you have
  1399. 55:25access to it and you can do and you can
  1400. 55:27do that. And by the way, Christine says
  1401. 55:28that she figured out the difference
  1402. 55:30between the preachable base. It figured
  1403. 55:32out to take 20% uh for land. Yeah, it's
  1404. 55:36great. Um I love that. Now, we don't
  1405. 55:39have time to get into like building an
  1406. 55:42app, but
  1407. 55:45you can very much have Chad build an app
  1408. 55:48for you. Uh the way you do that is you
  1409. 55:51go into Chad PT and you go into CEX. Um,
  1410. 55:54and then in Codex, then you're gonna
  1411. 55:56say, "Hey, you're gonna choose a
  1412. 55:58project. Choose the folder." By the way,
  1413. 56:00I I write apps all the time. I have an
  1414. 56:03app called write tool. I don't know if
  1415. 56:04we have any right tool users in the
  1416. 56:06house here. Um, and all the time I'm
  1417. 56:08going in there and I'm saying change
  1418. 56:09this, change that, and I like
  1419. 56:11experimenting with building tools for my
  1420. 56:14own app um, in it. And like I don't know
  1421. 56:17any code, and I still don't know any
  1422. 56:18code. I've gotten really good at
  1423. 56:19building apps with this. So you would
  1424. 56:21start a new project here and you would
  1425. 56:22say literally you would say build an app
  1426. 56:24that can do XYZ. It would build the app
  1427. 56:27locally like it would literally like run
  1428. 56:30inside your computer in that folder. And
  1429. 56:33then if you want to take it to the next
  1430. 56:34next next level, you can publish the app
  1431. 56:38by going into this area called sites.
  1432. 56:41And sites is a way that you can turn
  1433. 56:44your ideas into a website. And that
  1434. 56:46website could be the app itself if you
  1435. 56:48want it to be cloud-based. And there's
  1436. 56:50all other ways to do it. Sites is it's
  1437. 56:52the chat GPT response to like GitHub or
  1438. 56:56or Versel or something like that. Again,
  1439. 56:59I topics for a different webinar, right?
  1440. 57:02Um so hint hint, we probably want to do
  1441. 57:04one on on building apps and what that
  1442. 57:06looks like in the accounting world. Uh
  1443. 57:08and that's something I do with Reframe
  1444. 57:10anyway. Um you know, so if you're part
  1445. 57:12of Reframe society, you have access to
  1446. 57:14all that. Uh but uh but yeah, that's
  1447. 57:16kind of the way it is. And like look, it
  1448. 57:17even prompts you here. build a new
  1449. 57:19feature, app, or tool. And I want to say
  1450. 57:21build a prototype. And then I say
  1451. 57:23prototype of a
  1452. 57:26uh really really really basic uh
  1453. 57:29QuickBook style app, right? Something
  1454. 57:31like that. And then you go in there and
  1455. 57:33it'll do it. Again, we got two minutes
  1456. 57:34left, so we really can't get into it,
  1457. 57:36but it'll start doing that. It'll
  1458. 57:38publish it. Like it says it says using
  1459. 57:40the sites building skill because it
  1460. 57:42assumes that you want to have that
  1461. 57:43public, right? So So that's how it it
  1462. 57:45goes outside of your computer.
  1463. 57:48and it is public. So, I will uh I'll
  1464. 57:52stop it there so we can have a a clean
  1465. 57:55ending here. Let me get my slides back
  1466. 57:58just so I can have my email on the
  1467. 58:00screen. I'm going to read the questions
  1468. 58:02one more time just to make sure that
  1469. 58:04I've covered all the uh open questions
  1470. 58:07we have here. Um give me a second while
  1471. 58:10I get the slides back up and with my
  1472. 58:12email because that's really important.
  1473. 58:14people at this point, this is where they
  1474. 58:16go, oh, I had a bunch of questions that
  1475. 58:17weren't answered. You know, Hector, how
  1476. 58:18do I get more help? How do I know you
  1477. 58:20where I should take my firm, you know,
  1478. 58:22like what should I focus on when
  1479. 58:23learning AI? That's what my email is
  1480. 58:25for, right? To like cover all those
  1481. 58:27loose ends that maybe I, you know,
  1482. 58:29weren't able to cover in this webinar
  1483. 58:32where we covered a lot. So, there's my
  1484. 58:34email if you want to learn more about
  1485. 58:35what I do and um and some suggestions on
  1486. 58:38like where to go from here. But I would
  1487. 58:40love to know in the chat in a scale from
  1488. 58:421 to 10 how much and how valuable this
  1489. 58:45two-part series has been for you. Uh
  1490. 58:48that way also the RAM people know does
  1491. 58:50it make sense for us to continue to do
  1492. 58:52more of these uh go deeper, go farther,
  1493. 58:57that sort of thing. And with that being
  1494. 58:59said, I'll let the RAM team wrap it up.
  1495. 59:01Thank you everybody.

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