ChatGPT Basics for Accounting (Part 2) - AUG 2026 — Transcript
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- 0:28Hector, you'll need to unmute yourself.
- 0:33Thank you. Welcome everybody to Chad GPT
- 0:35basics for accounting part two. Now, one
- 0:39really really important piece that I
- 0:42want to make sure that we go over is we
- 0:45uh go into the document section of the
- 0:48live
- 0:50webinar here and uh make sure you click
- 0:53on the slides, have those slides handy
- 0:56and available to you uh because we're
- 0:58going to make some references to some
- 1:00links and some stuff and you need to
- 1:02have those and the RAM team uh is going
- 1:05to load up that uh the PDF version of
- 1:08the slides. ites uh for you so you can
- 1:10have all those links. So today's session
- 1:12is called Chip PT basics for accounting
- 1:14part two upgrade your everyday workflows
- 1:17with AI. My name is Hector Garcia. I'm a
- 1:20practicing C CPA. I'm the CEO of
- 1:23Reframe. Um I I'm your regular
- 1:26run-of-the-mill accountant that also has
- 1:28a YouTube channel and also does
- 1:31education to other accountants. My email
- 1:34is hectorreframeaccounting.com.
- 1:36Keep that email handy. If anything
- 1:39wasn't clear in this webinar, open
- 1:42questions, suggestions for next uh
- 1:46content, etc., etc., email me directly
- 1:49and I'll, you know, keep your request in
- 1:51mind for whatever uh your request is
- 1:54regarding this session. But do, you
- 1:56know, don't worry about about it. Just
- 1:58if you have a question, just email me
- 1:59and I'll try to point you into the right
- 2:01direction. I also run an event uh called
- 2:04Reframe in Miami. Uh, RAMP has been
- 2:07gracious enough to been a sponsor in the
- 2:08past couple years. So, we're very
- 2:10appreciative of that. If you want to
- 2:12learn more about the event that I run
- 2:14every year, it's called Reframe. It's in
- 2:16Miami. It's in November. I think that if
- 2:19you like this content and you like the
- 2:20stuff that I've uh that I've created
- 2:22over the years, then you're definitely
- 2:24going to want to come uh to Miami this
- 2:26year. Anyway, the learning objectives
- 2:27for today are number one, navigate the
- 2:29Chad desktop app. It's available
- 2:33both for Mac or PC. I am on a Mac
- 2:35myself. Uh so uh so it might look a
- 2:39little bit different um than yours if
- 2:41you're on a PC, but the all the
- 2:43functionality is the same. We're going
- 2:45to talk about organizing receipts, uh
- 2:47running OCR, renaming files,
- 2:49categorizing documents. Basically, you
- 2:51got a bunch of stuff in your computer
- 2:53and you're going to ask it move this
- 2:56stuff around. Um so that's kind of like
- 2:58the first uh example that we're going to
- 3:00do. The second one is going to be
- 3:03creating documents. So like have it
- 3:05create a a PDF document, have it create
- 3:08a simulated tax return, have it create a
- 3:13um a spreadsheet. Uh so have it create
- 3:16uh something essentially. That's the
- 3:18that's that's the idea. So that's what
- 3:19we're going to do. Um and even though
- 3:21the learning objectives looks pretty um
- 3:24pretty short, there's a lot of moving
- 3:25parts in between each one. So we're
- 3:27going to get uh into a lot of details in
- 3:29product. So we're doing the intro now.
- 3:32Then we're going to talk about uh
- 3:34navigation, organizing files, file
- 3:36creation. And if we have time, that part
- 3:39five, that's only if we have time. You
- 3:41know, I'll give you a little bit
- 3:42introduction of app creation. That's
- 3:44another piece of this, like a whole
- 3:47another piece of this that really
- 3:49deserves its own like 10-hour webinar,
- 3:51which is like how can accountants build
- 3:53their own apps to solve problems that
- 3:55current apps cannot solve because
- 3:57they're very niche and specific to your
- 3:59need. And then throughout the webinar or
- 4:01through the end, we'll do a Q&A session.
- 4:03Try to answer as many of your questions
- 4:05as possible. So, type in your questions
- 4:07in the chat in the live chat um and keep
- 4:09your questions handy if you want to ask
- 4:12them. Now, part one. If you missed part
- 4:14one, make sure you go into this uh the
- 4:17page that's in this link. You should
- 4:20have access to the to the slides and you
- 4:23should be able to just click on that or
- 4:24take a picture of that and type it in
- 4:26manually. And we learned the basic
- 4:28prompting. We learned meta prompting. We
- 4:31learned uh document editing inside the
- 4:34chaptt web app. And then we learned a
- 4:36little bit about connecting apps like
- 4:38Gmail or whatever into CHP for it to
- 4:41interact with your own uh company
- 4:44documents etc. So that's we already
- 4:46covered that in part one. So let's start
- 4:49with navigation. And there's a couple of
- 4:50slides here that is quick cheat sheet to
- 4:53kind of walk you through the navigation.
- 4:55Uh, but I'm just gonna uh get out of
- 4:57that and go straight into the product.
- 5:00So, what you should be seeing on my
- 5:02screen is the desktop version of Chad
- 5:04GPT. This is not the web version. This
- 5:06is the desktop version of Chad GPT.
- 5:08Again, I'm running this on a Mac. It'll
- 5:10be slightly different than when if
- 5:12you're running it on a PC, but um the
- 5:15app all the functions should be the
- 5:17same. Now, one area of clarification is
- 5:20the desktop version of the app still
- 5:23requires an internet connection, still
- 5:25requires you to be a paid subscriber to
- 5:28Chad GPT. Um, and it still uses the
- 5:32cloud um engine like the chatgpt.com so
- 5:36to speak, their service to process
- 5:39stuff. The only difference is that in
- 5:42the desktop app because it's installed
- 5:44in your desktop, it can interact with
- 5:47documents in your computer and those
- 5:49documents stay in your computer only. So
- 5:52that's kind of the big value of it is
- 5:54that from a security standpoint, if
- 5:56you're worried about uploading documents
- 5:59that are your client documents or
- 6:01sensitive client data, uh all the data
- 6:03stays in your computer. Now the
- 6:05computing happens on the cloud so you
- 6:08need an internet connection but all the
- 6:10data all the stuff happens um locally in
- 6:13your computer. Now, I want to just do a
- 6:16quick call out. If you don't have that
- 6:18installed yet, but you you are used to
- 6:20just going to chatgpt.com, like that's
- 6:22like what you're used to going somewhere
- 6:24in the bottom of chatgpt, there should
- 6:26be like a little button that says
- 6:27download apps. And if you click on that,
- 6:30there should be a link to uh get chat
- 6:33GPT desktop or get chat GPT mobile. You
- 6:35can install that in your phone as well.
- 6:37And when you click on uh get chatgpt
- 6:39desktop, it should start downloading
- 6:41your uh the application right away. Uh
- 6:45so like that's just there's a quick link
- 6:47to that uh to download that. That should
- 6:49be it should be an icon somewhere in the
- 6:51lower uh part of the computer. So I'm
- 6:54going to get get rid of this CHP
- 6:56web-based app because we're not going to
- 6:58be using web- based app. We're going to
- 6:59be using the desktop application. Okay,
- 7:02cool. So that's kind of the first step.
- 7:03We're all good. Um now in terms of power
- 7:07uh they they have the same power. So
- 7:09chip pd.com desktop they have the exact
- 7:12same power the same engine
- 7:15like they can do the exact same thing.
- 7:18The huge difference is that the desktop
- 7:20app can interact with your computer
- 7:22where the web app cannot and it's
- 7:25actually a pretty big difference. Um and
- 7:28if you're going to be doing any sort of
- 7:29coding you're definitely going to be
- 7:30work want to work on the desktop based
- 7:32app. Now the first thing you see on the
- 7:34top of of the screen is chat GPT mode
- 7:37and codeex mode. So CEX mode is their
- 7:41first attempt to build a coding platform
- 7:45for software developers. And the coding
- 7:48platform could also do some of the stuff
- 7:49that we're going to talk about now. But
- 7:51we're going to um skip the Codex
- 7:53platform unless we're forced to use it.
- 7:55And we're going to be working on the
- 7:56ChatJPT platform only. Again, you need
- 7:58to be on the paid edition of Chat JPT uh
- 8:01to have access to this tool. Now, when
- 8:04you're in the chat GPT mode, you're
- 8:06going to see a tab on the top of the
- 8:09screen. You're going to have one for
- 8:11chat and one for work. So, chat is going
- 8:14to resemble the same thing that you see
- 8:16in chatjpt.com.
- 8:18And the work is the one that is a
- 8:20combination of the interface that you're
- 8:24used to, which is a chatjpt.com
- 8:25combination, and it being able to
- 8:28interact in your computer. Now, a couple
- 8:31things you're going to notice
- 8:32immediately when you're in this work
- 8:34mode is that there's a drop-own menu
- 8:36here that says, "How should actions be
- 8:40approved?" And when this says actions,
- 8:42it means doing things in your computer.
- 8:45So, there's ask for approval, which
- 8:47means every single time it's going to
- 8:50touch something in your computer, it's
- 8:52going to say, "Hey, can I do this?" Or
- 8:54it's going to uh manipulate an app and
- 8:56say, "Can I do this?" Um, approve for me
- 8:59means give it a little bit of um runway
- 9:03for it to choose what's high risk and
- 9:06what's potentially unsafe. And then it
- 9:08will approve most of the computer
- 9:11manipulating tasks except for something
- 9:14that feels that could potentially be um
- 9:17a um a a unsafe thing. And then you can
- 9:21do full access and just say, you know
- 9:23what, just be able to touch everything,
- 9:26be able to affect everything in my
- 9:27computer. Don't ask me questions. Just
- 9:30do the work. Of course, in a perfect
- 9:32world, this is how you want to work,
- 9:34right? because you uh want to trust it
- 9:38not to destroy any files in your
- 9:39computer or do anything high risk or
- 9:41destructive. If I'm talking to
- 9:43accountants here, I'm telling you, I
- 9:45don't think a whole lot of people here
- 9:46are just going to say yes, sure, give me
- 9:49full access. Um so, uh because you have
- 9:52to say yes, you got full readr access to
- 9:54all my folders, full read access to
- 9:56terminal commands, that means you can
- 9:58install potentially even install a
- 10:00virus, right? and full read access to my
- 10:03internet apps and plugins like Google
- 10:05Chrome that sort of thing. So if you
- 10:07click on con confirm there you give a
- 10:09full access and control to your computer
- 10:11and then up here it says full access. So
- 10:13that's actually a really important
- 10:15piece. There's a lot of another site
- 10:17thing here that says where should the
- 10:19chat run on your computer and um in the
- 10:23cloud. If you click on in the cloud, um
- 10:26you you're going to have a challenge
- 10:27accessing to some of the some of the
- 10:30local files unless you physically attach
- 10:32them like you actually upload file by
- 10:34file. So actually work on on your
- 10:37computer and that's where you want to uh
- 10:39do that. I already gave this thing
- 10:41access to my computer and there's some
- 10:44areas of settings to do that. So I'm
- 10:45just going to show you that real quick.
- 10:47So when I go into my settings
- 10:50um there are uh different settings that
- 10:52have to do with integration. So like for
- 10:54example here's computer use and here's
- 10:57you say look yes you have access to any
- 10:59app in my computer you have access to my
- 11:01browser you have access to more browsers
- 11:04right uh or Microsoft Edge you have
- 11:06access to my to my Excel like you
- 11:08explicitly give it access and you can
- 11:11even go one step further you can give it
- 11:13access even while your computer is
- 11:16turned off sorry not turned off but
- 11:18while it's uh like locked you know like
- 11:20in in like password mode so you can even
- 11:23give it that level of access. So like
- 11:25you could like not shut down your
- 11:26computer but log out um and then just
- 11:29give it a task and have it just do it do
- 11:31its thing. So you can go one step
- 11:33further uh on that uh to do that. So you
- 11:36have all sorts of different things
- 11:37browser. So I can say yes. Can can they
- 11:40control my browser? Yes. I could also um
- 11:43limit uh uh you know the access that it
- 11:45has here and know give it access to
- 11:48autofill passwords. So if you wanted to
- 11:50also log in into your bank or whatever
- 11:51and do things again it's going to be up
- 11:54to you how much access you want to give
- 11:57to this app. Uh my job here is just to
- 11:59show you what it can do and then it will
- 12:01be your job to work with your IT
- 12:03department and figure out how much um
- 12:05you know how much access you can give
- 12:07and then how much you would be under
- 12:09compliance right um from the perspective
- 12:11of giving AI a lot of access. Now, um, a
- 12:16lot of people ask me, is there an undo
- 12:18button? Like, if it does something and I
- 12:20wasn't sure if it did it right, can I
- 12:22press undo? I mean, if it modified a
- 12:24file and you asked it to go back to the
- 12:26last version of the file, you can do
- 12:28something like that. But, but if it
- 12:30deleted a file, you usually cannot undo
- 12:32deleting. So, that's why you want to be
- 12:34very careful about that. So, I'm going
- 12:36to put this in a app a proof for me.
- 12:38That way, it's sort of in semiapproval
- 12:40mode as I work on stuff. Okay. So,
- 12:42that's kind of the first step. The next
- 12:44step is I want to give it a specific
- 12:46folder inside my computer to work on.
- 12:49So, let me just open up my uh folder
- 12:52structure here just to kind of show you
- 12:54what I'm going to be working on. So, I
- 12:55have this folder in my desktop. I just
- 12:58called it chatgpt demo. And I'm going to
- 13:01be dumping files in here just to show
- 13:02you kind of example by example. um but
- 13:05it's only going to have access or it's
- 13:07only going to manipulate the data inside
- 13:10this folder which right now it doesn't
- 13:12have any data. So the way I the way I do
- 13:15that the way I I tell it go do things in
- 13:17that I'm going to click here where it
- 13:18says choose project click on that and
- 13:21then click on new project
- 13:24okay and uh actually not choose project
- 13:26sorry I have to choose the data in my
- 13:29computer
- 13:33okay um let's do work on this project
- 13:42hold let me create a project. And then
- 13:44I'm going to call this one uh organize
- 13:47or organize my receipts.
- 13:52Organize my receipts. Let me just uh
- 13:54organize
- 13:56my receipts. Should spell things
- 13:58correctly. Okay. And then it says add
- 14:00folders and ch uh add folders ch.
- 14:04So I'm going to click on that and then
- 14:06choose in my desktop. That folder
- 14:09doesn't have any data right now. Okay.
- 14:11And then I can click on create project.
- 14:13And what's also interesting about it is
- 14:15I can add multiple folders and it will
- 14:18read through all the multiple folders
- 14:20and figure out what to do in each
- 14:22folder. So we're just going to start
- 14:23very similar here. Go create project.
- 14:26Now my project is created and I gave it
- 14:28the specific path on where it can work.
- 14:31Now let's talk about what I'm going to
- 14:32ask it to do. So, um I have let's say
- 14:36for example, let me just I'm going to
- 14:37grab a bunch of uh receipts that I have
- 14:39here for the demo.
- 14:43Okay, just looking for the receipts
- 14:46here. Give me one second.
- 14:55Okay. And I'm going to grab all these
- 14:57receipts here. And just imagine for a
- 14:59second that all of these receipts were
- 15:02uh sent to your your clients send them
- 15:05to you via email or they put them in
- 15:07your Dropbox or they put them into your
- 15:10Google Drive or they put them into your
- 15:13um portal, right? What whatever way that
- 15:16you receive a bunch of documents from
- 15:19your uh from your client, just imagine
- 15:22that you got that and you then put them
- 15:23into this folder. Again, this is the
- 15:26only folder that this project has access
- 15:28to. And these receipts um do not have a
- 15:32naming like to let you know what each
- 15:34receipt is. They have like, you know,
- 15:36maybe the the the name that their client
- 15:39scanner uh gave it. So, if I pull up any
- 15:42of these specific receipts, you see what
- 15:44this looks like. Some sort of like wire
- 15:47transfer fee or whatever. And then I
- 15:49pull up another one and it's, you know,
- 15:51some some invoice for uh some
- 15:53construction services. Okay. Okay, so
- 15:54that gives a general idea. Your client
- 15:56dumped a bunch of receipts, a bunch of
- 15:59invoices into your portal or send them
- 16:02to you and they just sitting there and
- 16:04you want to organize them. So there's
- 16:05multiple ways we can organize them. And
- 16:06this is where obviously the prompting m
- 16:09uh um matters, but you kind of have to
- 16:12know what it can do. So the first thing
- 16:14I wanted to do is I wanted to uh rename
- 16:17all the files based on what's in each
- 16:21receipt. So, we're going to have it
- 16:22apply OCR, you know, character
- 16:24recognition, read it, infer what's in
- 16:27it, and rename the file for me.
- 16:31Rename all the files in this folder.
- 16:35These are all receipts. This is going to
- 16:37require you to read the receipt. And I
- 16:39want you to use the specific convention.
- 16:42I want you to put the date of the
- 16:44transaction first, then a hyphen, then
- 16:47the name of the vendor, then a hyphen,
- 16:50then the total dollar amount, then a
- 16:53hyphen, and for the last piece, I want
- 16:56you to give me a general category of
- 16:59what possibly could be the general
- 17:03theme, expense category or whatever, or
- 17:06that particular receipt. Okay, so that's
- 17:08the prompt I'm giving it. Okay. Uh, so I
- 17:11gave it the prompt and I I I use
- 17:12dictation software. Dictation software
- 17:14is like the biggest life hack. You know,
- 17:16there is um there's a whole bunch of
- 17:18different ones. Uh, your Mac has
- 17:20builtin, your Windows has builtin. I I
- 17:22usually pay for one called Whisper Flow.
- 17:25Uh, and that's what I use to do this and
- 17:26it it breaks things down for you and
- 17:29organizes your dictation which is like
- 17:30really really powerful. So now after I
- 17:33did that, I went ahead I'm going to go
- 17:34ahead and send that request and then
- 17:36it's going to start uh doing the
- 17:38analysis. First, it gave me a quick
- 17:40summary of saying this is the naming
- 17:42convention I want you to have. Okay, so
- 17:45it's going to rename all the files. It
- 17:47says ext. That means some of them could
- 17:50be PDFs, some of them could be JPEGs,
- 17:51whatever. So, it's just saying I'll
- 17:53maintain the same um extension at the
- 17:55end. Then it says right here, I found 42
- 17:58receipts. Again, just for context, all
- 18:01these files in this folder are uh the
- 18:04files that is working on. Let's just do
- 18:06it here in list mode. So, we got all
- 18:08these files in this folder. Again, they
- 18:10currently don't contain anything other
- 18:12than the data that's inside of it and a
- 18:15random name that doesn't mean anything
- 18:17to me. So, having them have names, that
- 18:21could be really powerful. So, that's the
- 18:22first step that we're going to do, just
- 18:24have it name.
- 18:26Okay, while it does that, because we do
- 18:28have to wait until it does its thing,
- 18:29I'm going to answer some of the live uh
- 18:32questions that are in the webinar. First
- 18:35question is, Hector, are there any
- 18:36security concerns with having a client
- 18:40with personal identifiable data while
- 18:43using Chad GPT? Great question. Um, I
- 18:47would say that I think that if you are
- 18:49an accountant and your job is to
- 18:52safeguard your client's data and you
- 18:54don't trust these systems and your
- 18:57client doesn't trust these systems, then
- 19:00you shouldn't use it. Period. I think
- 19:02that if you trust Chad GPT or trust
- 19:06claude and trust the public claims that
- 19:09they made that your data is not used to
- 19:12build the model when you are in their
- 19:14paid business commercial versions and
- 19:18your client also trust it and you're
- 19:19disclaiming to your client that you are
- 19:21using uh these systems to do that then I
- 19:24think it's totally safe. So I don't have
- 19:25a clear answer like is it safe yes or no
- 19:28it's more like it's a bit more nuanced.
- 19:31Um, that's kind of the way I I I I think
- 19:33about it. Okay. Someone someone's
- 19:36telling me, are there specific AIs
- 19:39uh like Claude or Microsoft Copilot or
- 19:44Google Gemini that are more safe than
- 19:46others? That's a that's a really good
- 19:47question. I don't have any empirical
- 19:50data to tell you that one is more safe
- 19:52than the other. So, uh, another question
- 19:54is, how do you prevent AI from
- 19:56hallucinating? That's a really um, good
- 19:59question. Hallucinating means it making
- 20:01up stuff. Now AI has gotten so [snorts]
- 20:04much better at not making up stuff. Uh
- 20:07particularly because the models have
- 20:09gotten so much better and you have the
- 20:12ability to uh increase
- 20:15you know how much smarter they get so to
- 20:17speak with these little things. So, if
- 20:19you don't want it to go if you if you
- 20:21prefer accuracy over speed, usually um
- 20:25you want to like just kind of push your
- 20:27smartness level, so to speak, your
- 20:29recency level as high as possible. And
- 20:32the higher you bring this up, the the
- 20:36less probable that it will make up
- 20:38stuff. Now, this is pretty pretty safe
- 20:40stuff right now, like it's just going
- 20:41through files and renaming them. You
- 20:43know, you can just like in accounting
- 20:45and audit, you can spot check them,
- 20:47right? open a couple and see, okay, is
- 20:48it about is it about what it's supposed
- 20:51to be? And if it's about what it's
- 20:52supposed to be, that's good enough.
- 20:54Okay, so it says it did it. It renamed
- 20:5642 files. It used this uh convention. Uh
- 21:00let's go into my folder and kind of see
- 21:02the end result. So, as you can tell from
- 21:05here, um it did rename some of the
- 21:07files, right? So, like this one is
- 21:09202511
- 21:11gusto $18,000 payroll. So, I'm going to
- 21:14go ahead and open it just to make sure
- 21:15that it's about that. Yeah, that's true.
- 21:18And the $18,000 is true. So, out of all
- 21:20the numbers there, it figured out what
- 21:22is the total and it figure out my vendor
- 21:24was Gusto. And it figure out um my
- 21:28expenses payroll. Let's grab another
- 21:30one. Again, we're just auditing this
- 21:32Lonear Plumbing. The total amount is
- 21:344,645.
- 21:36It looks like there's some plumbing
- 21:37supplies in here. Let's see what it it
- 21:39called it. Plumbing subcontractor. Okay,
- 21:42maybe it's accurate, maybe it's not, but
- 21:44it got me pretty close. And this is not
- 21:45doing any categorization in my system so
- 21:47to speak. This is just giving the files
- 21:49a better name. Now I want you to imagine
- 21:52you know a world in which you have been
- 21:54working with client files and all your
- 21:57client files were beautifully named like
- 21:59this. Like your world would be
- 22:02exponentially better. Like your life is
- 22:04exponentially better when the people you
- 22:06interact with give you stuff that's easy
- 22:08to work with instead of like a dump of a
- 22:10bunch of randomly named files. Okay. The
- 22:13other uh the other piece here is I can
- 22:15have I can have this group it by folders
- 22:18as I find that to be really interesting
- 22:19as well. So I can come in here and say
- 22:23I want you to group them by folders
- 22:25based on category. So the first folder
- 22:28is the category and then under the
- 22:31category the secondary folder would be
- 22:34the vendor or the payee.
- 22:36Okay. So that's the prompt I gave it.
- 22:38Right. So group and again you can give
- 22:40it anything you want. Okay.
- 22:42So, it can do that. While it does that,
- 22:44somebody's asking me, can you have it
- 22:46pull receipts uh from the body of an
- 22:49email? So, the answer is yes. Uh you
- 22:51would have to connect it with your uh
- 22:53Gmail or your Outlook and give a full
- 22:56access to be able to read all your
- 22:57emails for it to be able to extract
- 22:59those um attachments from that. Okay,
- 23:03let's see how it did with the folders.
- 23:05This is actually a much faster process.
- 23:08Notice now it put everything into nice
- 23:10little folders. Look at this. such a
- 23:11beautiful thing. Um, you know, sometimes
- 23:14I think of, you know, like the future
- 23:17accountants where all this stuff gets
- 23:19done automatically going back 20 years
- 23:21and think about like all the hours I
- 23:23spend creating little folders and
- 23:25grouping things in it. Like if you
- 23:27prepare taxes and somebody gives you
- 23:29three years worth of stuff, just say,
- 23:30"Hey, grab all the stuff, group it into
- 23:32each relevant year or group it into
- 23:35business versus personal or group it
- 23:37into what goes in uh what's deductible
- 23:39and what might not be deductible." And
- 23:41of course, you know, you still have to
- 23:42check the work. You are the accountant
- 23:44after all. But look, I double click on
- 23:46fuel. The vendor name is Loves Travel
- 23:49Stop. There's my two weird looking
- 23:52receipts from uh my gas, like my gas
- 23:55receipts. Okay. And actually I I all
- 23:58these sample data that I use for this
- 24:00webinar, I actually put that in a little
- 24:03Google Drive. So because a lot of people
- 24:05after this webinars get super excited,
- 24:06but then they don't want to use the real
- 24:08data. So I'm going to give you access to
- 24:10all these documents. I'm going to send
- 24:11you an email with all these with a
- 24:13folder where you can download and you
- 24:14can do the same testing just so you can
- 24:16get you get familiar with uh the
- 24:18workflow. Okay. Um so that's uh that's
- 24:22organization in general. I think it it
- 24:24could do it could do a really good job.
- 24:26Um, you could do things like like split
- 24:28the pages. So, let's just say for
- 24:30example, somebody gives you one big PDF
- 24:33and I could I could kind of show you
- 24:34that. Um, I can show you that. Let me
- 24:38just go back into my documents here. Um,
- 24:41uh, let me see. Do me a favor. Undo all
- 24:44of that and put the documents back to
- 24:47where they were before I did any
- 24:49changes. Now, because I didn't delete uh
- 24:52anything, it should be able to do that.
- 24:55It should be able to move the documents
- 24:56back and and put put them back. Uh I
- 24:59don't know if it can rename them again.
- 25:00I don't know if it if actually remembers
- 25:02the original name. Let's see if it
- 25:04retains the original name in there. But
- 25:06I wanted to show you one more thing
- 25:07that's actually pretty interesting. Um
- 25:09because you can you can have it uh uh
- 25:12either join PDFs together or split PDFs
- 25:18up, right? And I find that to be like a
- 25:20super fascinating approach. Uh because
- 25:23many times my client will give me one 46
- 25:26page PDF that contains like a whole
- 25:29bunch of different things and it's a
- 25:30pain in the butt to go through it and I
- 25:32want to split it up. Um or uh or the
- 25:35other way. Maybe they gave me a bunch of
- 25:36separate things and I want to group them
- 25:38by logical. So I want one PDF with all
- 25:40my gas receipts or one PDF with all my
- 25:42travel receipts or whatever happens to
- 25:44be. So let's have let's have it do that.
- 25:46Let me go back here. Let's see what
- 25:49happened. Okay, my files are gone.
- 25:51[laughter]
- 25:52Okay, so lesson learned, guys. Sometimes
- 25:55your files are gone. My files are gone.
- 25:56So, let me go back into my original
- 25:59documents that were here. I don't know
- 26:01what the heck happened. Uh, let me just
- 26:03copy them again. So, kind of happy this
- 26:07kind of happened on the fly. Like I
- 26:08would say, rule of thumb is always have
- 26:10your backups or oh wait, my files are
- 26:12not gone. Never mind. Never mind.
- 26:15um is the problem stands between the
- 26:18user and the keyboard. Sorry. Sorry. I
- 26:20was scrolled out. My files are still
- 26:22there. Pause alarm. Okay. Anyway, sorry.
- 26:24People are probably freaking out. The
- 26:26files were gone. No, the files were gone
- 26:27from from my visibility, not from the
- 26:29computer. They're there. Okay. So, I'm
- 26:31going to have it do something else.
- 26:33Now, what I want you to do is I want you
- 26:35to read all the files and find vendors
- 26:38in common. So if there's two or three
- 26:41receipts that are all the same vendor,
- 26:43uh group them all as the same PDF and
- 26:46then rename uh each of that PDF whether
- 26:49it contains a single receipt or multiple
- 26:51receipts. Rename it just the name of the
- 26:54vendor and then after the vendor name
- 26:56tell me how many documents were joined
- 26:59together.
- 27:02Again we're getting very creative here.
- 27:04I'm trying to give you like all these
- 27:06edge cases in like different ways you
- 27:08would think about organizing uh sort of
- 27:11client files. Okay, different different
- 27:14uh ways um you know to kind of approach
- 27:18uh data file organization
- 27:21and then after we're done with this then
- 27:22we're going to talk about data
- 27:23manipulation and this is actually this
- 27:25is technically sort of uh data
- 27:27manipulation because we're like you know
- 27:29putting them together. I actually didn't
- 27:32tell it to Did I tell it to join it? Did
- 27:34I tell it to actually create a single
- 27:36PDF? Uh, we'll see. Uh, yeah, I did say
- 27:39join together. Okay, I think it's pretty
- 27:41clear that it's not like create a little
- 27:44folder unless it's creating little
- 27:46folders, but we'll see. Um, okay. While
- 27:48that does that, let me see more
- 27:49questions. A lot of your questions are
- 27:50coming in. Uh, William says, "Do you
- 27:53have a PDF editor app that's linked to
- 27:56Chat JPT you would recommend? Um, does
- 27:59it combine or separate PDFs on its own?
- 28:01So, William, I'm not trying to answer
- 28:02you the combination question um and
- 28:05separation question. That's actually
- 28:06what I'm doing now. But in terms of like
- 28:08a PDF editor that I would recommend that
- 28:10talks to Chad GPT, I don't um I don't
- 28:13have a recommendation. That's actually a
- 28:15really good question. I'm going to be on
- 28:16the search for one. Actually, I know it
- 28:19can go into the uh PDF and edit uh
- 28:22things in the PDF. I know it can do
- 28:24that. Now when PDFs are scanned, you
- 28:26know, versus the original digital PDF
- 28:29gets a little trickier, right? Because
- 28:31like some not all text comes in as text,
- 28:33some comes in as image. But I know it
- 28:35can do certain uh manipulation in the
- 28:37PDF in it. Yeah. Okay. Uh let me see. Uh
- 28:43if you scan multiple receipts into one C
- 28:46uh PDF, will it separate out for you?
- 28:48The answer is yes. And that's kind of
- 28:49like what I'm showing you here. I'm
- 28:50showing you the joining, but I'll show
- 28:52you the separation um in a little bit
- 28:54while while this still um finishes that.
- 28:57Let's see what else we got in the
- 28:58questions.
- 29:00Okay, I think that answered all the
- 29:01questions. Actually, good good job,
- 29:03guys. Uh oh, somebody's asking which
- 29:06version of Chad GBT you're using. So,
- 29:08I'm using the $100 a month version u on
- 29:11this particular demo, but for my firm,
- 29:14we use the $30 a month version. So, uh,
- 29:16and the $30 a month version is good
- 29:18enough. The team version, it's good
- 29:20enough. Okay. So, here's like my list of
- 29:22the PDFs that are being created. Uh, and
- 29:25look, we have a couple of the ones that
- 29:27we're going to focus on, which is all
- 29:28the ones that have um, uh, the merging
- 29:31on them. So, let me go into the folder
- 29:34and kind of see what that looks like.
- 29:38I'm going to sort it by size, assuming
- 29:39that the bigger ones have the most. So,
- 29:41this one's called Iron Cut Builders. It
- 29:43has nine documents in total. If I double
- 29:45click on that, I can see that there's
- 29:47multiple pages.
- 29:49So, you saw an example for joining uh
- 29:53there. Okay, cool. Awesome. Okay, so I'm
- 29:55going to show you another example.
- 29:58I'm going to separate now. So, I'm going
- 29:59to pull up uh let's see what we have
- 30:01here. I got this uh tax return package
- 30:07and I'm going to put and by the way,
- 30:09this is all sample data. This is not
- 30:10like real client data anywhere. So, let
- 30:13me just put here receipts.
- 30:17Okay. And I'm going to dump all the
- 30:18receipts into that folder just so we can
- 30:21kind of get them out of the way. Um, and
- 30:25now I'm going to paste this PDF uh Smith
- 30:29with complete tax package. So, when I
- 30:31click on this, this is basically one big
- 30:34PDF
- 30:36that contains 21 pages and contains
- 30:39everything together. W2, 1098,
- 30:421098E,
- 30:44uh interest statement, uh some social
- 30:47security thing, right? Some documents
- 30:51in here, some uh investment documents
- 30:54and a bunch of pages, just like a like a
- 30:56bunch of stuff, right? So, uh now I'm
- 30:59going to tell it to grab this uh tax
- 31:02package. I'm just going to um copy the
- 31:05name here and say okay I'll start a new
- 31:08new chat under the same project and say
- 31:12there is a file
- 31:18uh with
- 31:21a bunch of tax docs. Let me go back to
- 31:25the dictate.
- 31:27And I want you to create a little folder
- 31:30for the year that it belongs to. And
- 31:32then under that folder, I want you to
- 31:34have a subfolder in terms of what the
- 31:37type of docs that it is. So whether it's
- 31:39a W2, a 1099, group them by the type of
- 31:43document, and then separate or extract
- 31:45the pages related to what goes into each
- 31:48folder.
- 31:51Okay, let's see how how well is it does
- 31:54this. Okay, so it's going to go into the
- 31:56folder, inspect the files, look page by
- 31:59page, create the folder type. So like
- 32:01I'm showing you now, sort of like the
- 32:03pinnacle of organization. You got one
- 32:05big PDF. Now you you're asking it to
- 32:08make decisions, right? Not on the
- 32:10category, but on the type of document
- 32:11that it is, and you know, keep, you
- 32:13know, keep them together if they're the
- 32:15same pages or whatever. We're going to
- 32:17see how well it does that. Okay. So
- 32:19right here it says look I found the
- 32:21first page first seven pages are
- 32:23individual forms. Pages 8 to 21 is one
- 32:26continuous brokerage statement. I'll
- 32:28preserve the 14page statement as a
- 32:30single document. It's beautiful. So
- 32:32that's all the thinking for me. Like
- 32:34sometimes I I I worry about like you
- 32:37know how we figure out you know
- 32:40how what our brand new employees
- 32:44uh will do in our firms because like I
- 32:47like if if this was a brand new employee
- 32:48and I would I would be telling them to
- 32:50do this they would go back to me three
- 32:52times and ask me what should I do about
- 32:53this? What should I do about that? You
- 32:55know how should I handle these pages?
- 32:56You know what should I call this? And
- 32:58these systems just like don't ask any
- 33:01follow questions. They just know almost
- 33:04like logically what um what what needs
- 33:08to be done. So that I find that to be
- 33:10particularly fascinating. So okay. So
- 33:13let's wait until that finishes uh doing
- 33:15that.
- 33:17Let's see any other questions. So Cheryl
- 33:19says, "Does a bookmark in the packages?"
- 33:22I'm not sure what that means, Cheryl. I
- 33:23haven't tried a bookmark. Uh something I
- 33:26could try my own. Somebody says, "Can we
- 33:29uh uh file organization documents with
- 33:32Microsoft as well?" So, Karina, I I
- 33:35don't use uh any of the doc Microsoft
- 33:37products. I'm a Mac user, so I don't
- 33:38want to I don't want to say yes or no,
- 33:40but I know that this stuff chat JPT or
- 33:43Cloud Co-work. It's miles ahead uh
- 33:46versus Microsoft Copilot if that's what
- 33:49you're asking. Now, technically, if you
- 33:51give access to SharePoint, it should be
- 33:53able to do all these things inside
- 33:55SharePoint if that's what you're asking.
- 33:57like if you connect it to your you know
- 33:59your cloud-based document uh um
- 34:02repository is it better okay so let's
- 34:05see uh where we are okay so here's a
- 34:08document called output uh and then we
- 34:10have document called PDF and then we
- 34:12have document called tax documents then
- 34:14we have 2025 and then we have look at
- 34:17this such a beautiful thing it has each
- 34:19of these things
- 34:21uh organized so each of these documents
- 34:23are inside their folder and even went in
- 34:26and renamed in each of the files. So, it
- 34:28makes it super easy to look at. That's
- 34:31just awesome. That's just great stuff.
- 34:32Okay. Now, let's have it create a um a
- 34:37document. So, let's follow uh on the
- 34:40same chat that we have here and say,
- 34:43okay, great. So, inside the 2025 folder,
- 34:46for example, which is all for Smith, I
- 34:50want you to create one Excel document
- 34:53that maps out all the documents that are
- 34:57in this folder and also creates a tax
- 35:00summary of all the items that could
- 35:03affect the tax return. uh I don't want
- 35:05you to calculate any tax for now but
- 35:07just all the items and kind of like have
- 35:10a total potential taxable income that
- 35:13all these documents uh uh represent and
- 35:17and this is for the purpose of me as a
- 35:20tax preparer having a work document
- 35:23right before I prepare the tax return
- 35:24that gives me a quick snapshot of
- 35:26everything that I'm about to look at and
- 35:28where do I find all these things? Oh,
- 35:30and also as an added bonus, I want you
- 35:32to add a little hyperlink in that Excel
- 35:35file. Uh, because it sits in the root
- 35:37folder, add a hyperlink where I can
- 35:39click on it and I can open the file
- 35:41directly while I'm looking at the Excel
- 35:43file.
- 35:45That's a lot. [laughter]
- 35:47Let's go ahead and send that and see
- 35:49what happens. Um, and then I'm having
- 35:52some questions about handwritten
- 35:54documents. Like, how would you manage
- 35:56handwritten documents? How does it
- 35:58recognize um uh handwritten documents?
- 36:01Good question. I think the best thing to
- 36:04do is to test it. So, I got to go find a
- 36:07handwritten document somewhere uh to to
- 36:10show you uh the example of well these
- 36:12kind of things. Let me see if I can find
- 36:14a handwritten document somewhere.
- 36:19Okay, perfect. [gasps]
- 36:27Okay, this is still thinking and I'm
- 36:28like doing the work now trying to find a
- 36:31handwritten document for you. So, I did
- 36:34find it. Beautiful thing. Got it right
- 36:36in front of me. Handwritten document.
- 36:39And I'm going to take a picture of the
- 36:40document and put it in my chat GPT. So,
- 36:43we can kind of see how that works.
- 36:51Perfect. All right. So, this still still
- 36:53thinking and we're waiting for this to
- 36:55think. But while we're doing this sort
- 36:56of dynamically, I am going to go ahead
- 36:58and receive
- 37:01the handwritten document.
- 37:03Um, so I can also see what that looks
- 37:07like. So, here's a handwritten document.
- 37:09So, let's say, for example, some client,
- 37:11which I'm not really happy about, uh,
- 37:13basically on a white piece of paper went
- 37:15in there and wrote the address of a
- 37:18property, a bunch of stuff that refers
- 37:20to like rental income, maintenance, some
- 37:22chicken scratch here, improvements, HOA,
- 37:25some notes about like I paid X amount
- 37:28for the property back in this and I
- 37:30moved out and I bought a I got it and I
- 37:31got a mortgage for 7%. It's great
- 37:33example, I think probably a bit of an
- 37:36extreme one, but a great example of
- 37:38okay, I got this like highly chicken
- 37:41scratched handwritten document with like
- 37:43some potential re relevant information
- 37:46on uh for the tax return. So, we will um
- 37:50go ahead and and have it process that as
- 37:52soon as we're done with uh uh all the
- 37:56current tasks that is working on. So,
- 37:58I'm going to move that into the demo.
- 38:01Okay. So, I have So, I I got the folder
- 38:04there waiting for me um right here. So,
- 38:07we're gonna have it uh process that
- 38:09afterwards. I'm just going to copy the
- 38:10name. I'm just going to call it
- 38:12handwritten
- 38:15rental thing. Okay. So, I got the
- 38:17handwritten rental thing in here. Um and
- 38:20then I'm going to have it look at that
- 38:21and build something for me. like
- 38:23actually like build a readable spread
- 38:27workable spreadsheet uh for me that I
- 38:30can use to um to to have something that
- 38:34makes sense in uh in my tax file. Okay,
- 38:38so this is still again that just for
- 38:40some context this is still working on
- 38:41that Excel file. So building Excel files
- 38:43is a little bit takes a little longer
- 38:45and also I told it to like give it some
- 38:49like tax thinking. So, it's actually
- 38:51going through like the thinking process
- 38:54and saying, you know, what is potential
- 38:56taxable income? Maybe, you know, like
- 38:57it's just doing a lot of extra thinking.
- 38:59And I probably could have said, just
- 39:00give me a summary and like don't like
- 39:02try to figure out what's taxable and
- 39:04what's not. Obviously, everything you
- 39:06put in a prompt, we covered this on on
- 39:10part one of this webinar series, is like
- 39:12that prompt completely changes the
- 39:14direction of the work that this is going
- 39:17to do. So, it's just really valuable to
- 39:20have like just really well defined uh
- 39:23exactly what you um what you're going to
- 39:25do with the prompt. Okay, still still
- 39:27thinking. So, we're going to give it
- 39:28some time. I'm just going to go into the
- 39:31folder where that uh Excel file will
- 39:34live. And there's an Excel file here. I
- 39:38don't want to open it yet because it's
- 39:40still doing things. Uh so, I don't want
- 39:42to like affect it, but it looks like it
- 39:43it's already like in the process. So,
- 39:45there's the Excel file sitting there
- 39:47right there waiting for me to open it
- 39:49and to make a decision on what I'm going
- 39:52to uh do uh do um do with it. Okay. Uh
- 39:57somebody says, "What happens with the
- 39:58hyperlinks once you move the documents
- 40:00out of the folder?" So, the Lis Lisa,
- 40:02the answer is they die, right? The
- 40:04hyperlinks are dependent on the fact
- 40:06that you don't move stuff out of the
- 40:08folder. So, obviously that hyperlink
- 40:10thing, it's like let's call it it's an
- 40:12added bonus. Okay. Um, another question
- 40:15is, can I start a new chat or a new task
- 40:18while I'm working on this one? The
- 40:20answer is yes, I can. And historically,
- 40:22when I do webinars, I used to be all
- 40:24over the place where I I'm doing one
- 40:25thing and I'm saying, "Okay, let's put
- 40:27that on pause. Let's do the next thing.
- 40:28Let's put that on pause. Let's do the
- 40:30next thing." But then, like during a
- 40:31webinar, people are like, "Wait, what
- 40:32what task is he working on?" So, I am no
- 40:35longer doing live webinars multitasking
- 40:39tasks on the fly. Okay? Like I said, it
- 40:41just it just becomes really confusing.
- 40:43So, I'm just going to like stick into
- 40:45stick into this one thing that we're
- 40:47doing and not have it do something
- 40:48simultaneously, mostly for the grace of
- 40:51the audience, not like being super lost
- 40:53on where they are. Um, let me see. Can I
- 40:56do facial recognition on images? For
- 40:58example, I have a folder full of images
- 41:00and I want to learn what the individual
- 41:02looks like and pull images of that
- 41:04specific individual into a new folder.
- 41:06William, great question. I have not
- 41:07tested that. I know um Apple does that
- 41:10really well in in the f you know with
- 41:12the phones with the pictures on the
- 41:13phones you know identifying the person
- 41:16but I I have never like done it with
- 41:20Chaji PT and I and I and to be honest
- 41:23with you even if PT could I would say
- 41:26it's so uh intensive that I think it
- 41:29would like stop in the middle of it. Um
- 41:32okay so here's the the Excel file. Let's
- 41:36go ahead and open that Excel file. Let's
- 41:38see what that looks like. Let me bring
- 41:40it over to the monitor that we're
- 41:43working on. Give me a second. Click and
- 41:45drag this bad boy here. And let's go and
- 41:48zoom in. [clears throat]
- 41:51200%. Maybe that's too much. 150%. Just
- 41:54right. Okay. So, here's the um the Excel
- 41:58that it wrote for me. Here's the
- 41:59potential taxable income. Again, imagine
- 42:02a world, especially if you're a tax
- 42:03preparer, where all your tax files are
- 42:05organized like that and you have a
- 42:07summary of everything that could
- 42:09possibly be, you know, that way when you
- 42:11prepare tax return, you're not cut by
- 42:13surprise. So, here's the W2 wages, bank
- 42:16interest, brokerage interest, and again,
- 42:18I'm going to give you access to all
- 42:19these documents so you can do the test
- 42:21yourself and audit it and see how
- 42:23accurate it is and all that stuff.
- 42:24Here's some potential uh tax return
- 42:27stuff. Okay. Uh let's see the document
- 42:30index. Okay, here's the uh all the
- 42:33different documents.
- 42:35Okay, the W2, the 1098. Uh the
- 42:39explanation of what it is. Uh review
- 42:41status, whatever that means. Uh here's a
- 42:44link to open the PDF. Uh something's
- 42:46broken with the link. I'm clicking on
- 42:48it. It's not working. But maybe I can
- 42:51like go back and say, "Hey, I'm having
- 42:52an issue opening the file." Have it go
- 42:54back and troubleshoot. But at least
- 42:56built the the general uh concept that I
- 42:59wanted, which is just a table that
- 43:01explains what's in it. What's the what's
- 43:03the name of the file? I mean, just with
- 43:04the name of the file, that's strong
- 43:06enough. Uh tax items. Here's like a sort
- 43:08of a breakdown of the tax items. I find
- 43:11this to be also pretty interesting.
- 43:13Okay, so it's actually extracting lines
- 43:16from each of the document and telling
- 43:19you, you know, potentially, you know,
- 43:21where they're coming from and what they
- 43:23could mean. I mean, come on, man. This
- 43:25is like it's like another level of the
- 43:27type open items. Here's all the things I
- 43:30couldn't figure out or wasn't sure, you
- 43:32know, if it could make any difference,
- 43:34right? So, I I really welcome you to try
- 43:36this. You get a get a get a simulated
- 43:39client file if you want don't want to
- 43:41use real client information. have it in
- 43:43there, have it do summaries and kind of
- 43:44like just watch it work and be blown
- 43:47away for what it can do from
- 43:49organization
- 43:51uh standpoint and um and creating
- 43:54documents relate related to that. Okay,
- 43:57let's uh I'm going to X out of that and
- 44:00I'm going to have it just look at this
- 44:02one document, the handwritten one. Okay,
- 44:04the handwritten rental thing. I'm gonna
- 44:07say
- 44:09I'll start a new chat here really quick
- 44:11and I'll say I have a file named
- 44:18that is some handwriting chicken scratch
- 44:20thing about a rental property. I want
- 44:22you to create a spreadsheet for me that
- 44:24is for my tax prep purposes. Organize
- 44:28everything into what it would look like
- 44:30in a schedule E. figure out possibly
- 44:33what's the split between uh interest and
- 44:36principal, if there's any mortgage
- 44:38information, um information about the
- 44:40asset or potential appreciation, etc.
- 44:44Again, I'm priming the prompt a little
- 44:46bit. Um I generally I would say just
- 44:48help me figure out by what this
- 44:51handwritten hot mess thing is and just
- 44:53have it like figure it out. But I gave
- 44:55it a little bit of you know tax [snorts]
- 44:56context. It's like hey this, you know,
- 44:58this could be a file for my schedule E.
- 45:00So, I'm taking it kind of like one step
- 45:02further because as accountants, most of
- 45:04us wouldn't be like open this file,
- 45:06figure out what to do. It would be more
- 45:08like I have a general idea of what I
- 45:10want to do with a file. That way,
- 45:12without additional context, not just you
- 45:15get it to do something more purposeful,
- 45:17but like for the purpose of the webinar,
- 45:18when you look at it, you're like, ah,
- 45:20this is related to accounting, right?
- 45:21Because I don't want it to go off the
- 45:22tangent and just do some random thing
- 45:24with that document that's not related to
- 45:26like work. Although it could be
- 45:28interesting to see, you know, what are
- 45:30all the different interesting things you
- 45:31could do with this document? That could
- 45:33be pretty interesting. Um, uh, but now
- 45:37some somebody's commenting about like
- 45:39this functionality being inside document
- 45:43management system. So, I actually agree.
- 45:45I believe that your practice management
- 45:47system, your uh, document management
- 45:49system should have all this stuff built
- 45:52in. This is like too many extra steps
- 45:55for me to like grab the documents that
- 45:57the client uploaded, put them in a
- 45:59folder in my computer, do all the work,
- 46:02and then copy them back, right? Like
- 46:04that that feels like a round trip.
- 46:06That's like one way too many. I mean,
- 46:08what like just too many steps. And the
- 46:10reality is that like the practice
- 46:12management software and document
- 46:14management software seriously seriously
- 46:16needs to um like like level up. Take a
- 46:21look at these things. look at these
- 46:22webinars level up. They just they're
- 46:24just not there yet. But the nice thing
- 46:25about showing them in CHIGP unclaud that
- 46:28it gives you a glimpse into the
- 46:30possibilities and the capabilities. And
- 46:32with that glimpse, it gives you more
- 46:34clarity around what to expect from these
- 46:37software companies. So next time you're
- 46:39in a demo and they're selling you the
- 46:41world and they're saying, "Oh, this app
- 46:42can do this and this app can do that."
- 46:44Um, after you go through several
- 46:46iterations of this exercise, you feel a
- 46:49little bit better equipped on knowing
- 46:51what to ask. Okay. Hey, you know, can I
- 46:53do this? Will it do this? Um, and you
- 46:55put a little bit more pressure in the
- 46:56software companies to make it more
- 46:59functional inside of their cloud-based
- 47:02system because again, putting stuff in
- 47:04your computer, working on your computer,
- 47:06and working back is not that um that
- 47:09that that uh practical. Now, Jack has a
- 47:13question. is when should you you use
- 47:14projects instead of just using chat? So,
- 47:17I am on chat mode, but the reason I'm
- 47:19doing projects is because you want all
- 47:22tasks that are um repetitive that
- 47:27they're the same thing or about the same
- 47:29thing, you want them in a project. Why?
- 47:32Because even though I'm doing this live
- 47:34and I make this look super easy, in the
- 47:37real world, you're going to be doing a
- 47:38lot of troubleshooting. And in that
- 47:40troubleshooting, there is learning.
- 47:43>> [clears throat]
- 47:43>> and all the context, all the memory, all
- 47:46the learning, all the insights from you
- 47:49going to the process and like knowing
- 47:51how to prompt, what to prompt, and what
- 47:54you're learning from the prompts that
- 47:55you're attempting to do. They're
- 47:57actually a lot it's actually a lot more
- 48:00practical
- 48:02to have it in a project because you
- 48:03don't have to go back and give it the
- 48:05same prompts and go back and tell it
- 48:06about the same learnings so to so to
- 48:09speak about the prompts. So that's why
- 48:12projects are so valuable, especially
- 48:14when they're within this context of a
- 48:17task that you plan to repeat over and
- 48:19over and over.
- 48:22Okay, cool. Thank you for that question.
- 48:23That's great. Great question. And yeah,
- 48:26so a couple you got questions about um
- 48:28copies of the slides or access to the
- 48:32documents or access to the recordings.
- 48:34All that stuff is going to be um given
- 48:36to you. Um, and I and I asked the RAM
- 48:39team to send me a list of all the
- 48:41attendees so I can send you access to
- 48:43all the stuff, you know, that's like
- 48:45sort of beyond the slides in the
- 48:47recording so I give you access to the
- 48:48documents, too. So, you're going to wait
- 48:49for an email from me in the next couple
- 48:51days that contains access to all the
- 48:53stuff because I do want you like if
- 48:55there's something that I want you to do
- 48:56is I want you to try to replicate this
- 48:58on your side. Like I get to the point
- 49:00that you're like, "Wow, everything that
- 49:01Hector did, it doesn't just sit in a
- 49:03webinar. It's something I feel I can do
- 49:05on my own." Right? Like I said, that's
- 49:07really where like your confidence will
- 49:09get boost boosted and then like you'll
- 49:11feel like you're getting a lot from
- 49:13these webinars. Okay. So, uh where's the
- 49:16document uh that this thing is? Let me
- 49:19open it in Excel
- 49:22and let me click and drag this here to
- 49:24my monitor. Okay. So, here's a document.
- 49:27Again, we had this weird handwritten
- 49:30thing that we weren't 100% sure what it
- 49:32was. It wasn't supposed to make sense to
- 49:35an accountant. It makes sense to the
- 49:36client. We had Chad PT go through the
- 49:39exercise and figure things out for us.
- 49:42Let's pull the document again just so we
- 49:44can see it in context. So, I got a
- 49:48handwritten document if you want to take
- 49:49a picture of this so you can look at it
- 49:51in your phone while I look at the Excel
- 49:54file so we can see what it picked up. We
- 49:56have rental income information, what
- 49:58looks like some expenses related to that
- 50:00property. We have the address of the
- 50:02property. We have uh what apparently a
- 50:05note about how much they paid for the
- 50:06property when and when they moved out.
- 50:09And and that's my that's my chicken
- 50:11scratch. I should have been a doctor. I
- 50:12know. Uh pay 20% down, 7% mortgage.
- 50:15Again, trying to simulate, you know, the
- 50:17real world. Our clients send us all this
- 50:19crap, right? So, uh we had to process
- 50:22this and this is what it came up with.
- 50:24Okay. So, first thing is is we got rents
- 50:26received. It actually tells me where in
- 50:29the schedule E this will go. And I would
- 50:32love to like test this in the real
- 50:33world. We might not have time here. Um,
- 50:35so here's the amount. The status is
- 50:37confirmed. Confirmed it. Okay. So, it
- 50:39just looked at the document. Then it it
- 50:42went ahead and and added the lines in
- 50:44the schedule E and saying, "Look, look,
- 50:46there's no amount provided here." So,
- 50:47that's pretty cool. Okay. Um, and then
- 50:50it goes in and just kind of breaks
- 50:51everything down for me. It's got
- 50:53mortgage interest paid to banks. Now I
- 50:55wonder whether it uh changed the number.
- 51:00Okay, so this is interesting. So the
- 51:02original document says mortgage payments
- 51:0418,000. And there's a reason why I put I
- 51:07paid 20% down 7% mortgage whatever.
- 51:11Specific reason why I did that is
- 51:12because I wanted to see if it's smart
- 51:13enough to not just grab the mortgage
- 51:16payments, put them into interest, and
- 51:18and try to figure out what it's the
- 51:20potential uh real interest uh that I
- 51:23have to extract from here. I find it
- 51:25pretty awesome. Here's a tentative uh uh
- 51:28rental uh real estate. Here's some like
- 51:31open items that is telling you, look,
- 51:32you should probably look into these
- 51:34things. you know like none of this stuff
- 51:36is you know I had to make a lot of
- 51:38assumptions to get there but you know
- 51:40support you know is there a fair market
- 51:41value convent comversion
- 51:44when you went from personal to business
- 51:46you know get the actual closing
- 51:48statements actually walking you through
- 51:50you know what would the open items be
- 51:52you know because just what it gave me
- 51:54wasn't enough let's see the inputs and
- 51:56assumptions so that's pretty cool also
- 51:58so here's the inputs it picked up the
- 52:00tax year I guess implied on the
- 52:02conversation right picked up the
- 52:04address, picked up the rental start date
- 52:06when it moved out. Not that important.
- 52:09Um, here's, you know, some some
- 52:11information here. Another summary
- 52:12summary of what was handwritten. Here's
- 52:14uh some mortgage assumptions, right? So,
- 52:16I purchased like if you're not listen if
- 52:19you're not blown away like if you're an
- 52:21accounting professional and you're not
- 52:23blown away by this and like high-fiving
- 52:25everybody that's around you or like
- 52:27high-fiving yourself because you're just
- 52:29blown away at like how much AI has come
- 52:32along and the stuff that it can do. I'm
- 52:34sorry to say you got no soul. Anyway,
- 52:38that's a joke by the way. I didn't mean
- 52:39that literally. Okay, that's that's my
- 52:41that's my that joke that I always say.
- 52:43So, there's the purchase price, there's
- 52:45the down payment, there's a calculated
- 52:47loan amount. Again, it's an exact no.
- 52:49Um, and here's and look, even tells you
- 52:51little notes saying, "Hey, I made this
- 52:53assumption. I assumed it was 30 years,
- 52:56right?" And then you can change it here.
- 52:58And I assume that if you change it, the
- 53:00numbers change. I guess not. Or maybe um
- 53:03I guess we have to tell it, hey, make
- 53:04sure that formulas are dynamic. If I
- 53:06could change things. Uh got the purchase
- 53:08date here. And then it's trying to
- 53:10figure out, okay, like based on this,
- 53:11I'm going to make a mortgage estimate.
- 53:13And of course, the thing did a freaking
- 53:16um amortization schedule. Uh again,
- 53:19simulated amortization schedule based on
- 53:21the little notes that it read from it to
- 53:23extract principle and interest. Okay, it
- 53:26did this all on its own. I didn't tell
- 53:28it to do I mean, I kind of told it to do
- 53:29that, but it kind of figured this out.
- 53:31It figure out the period, you know,
- 53:33which this belongs to. It didn't even
- 53:34take the whole year. It took part part
- 53:37of the year. So it's like the note says
- 53:40that I started renting it in April. So
- 53:42it's not going to give you the whole
- 53:43thing. It's just going to give you that
- 53:44piece. Okay. Then we got depreciation
- 53:47and the thing even assumes depreciation.
- 53:50Okay. So there's I I wrote there's a
- 53:53there's a line. Let me show you. There's
- 53:55a line for improvements. So it's also
- 53:57making the assumption that improvements
- 53:59are not, you know, deductible. It took
- 54:02them out of the schedule E. it put them
- 54:05into this other schedule for
- 54:06improvements and it's giving you some
- 54:09potential uh depreciation. Okay, here it
- 54:13says um uh rental building depreciable
- 54:16basis 360. Why is it using uh a
- 54:19difference? I would love to know why
- 54:21it's not using 450. Uh maybe separating
- 54:24land like who knows like I would have to
- 54:25go into a little bit deeper to figure
- 54:27out how he came up how he came up with
- 54:29that. And then some source notes. So, I
- 54:31actually went in there and says, "Here,
- 54:32look, based on everything that I did,
- 54:34here's everything that I did. Here's my
- 54:36confidence level. Here's some notes
- 54:38about what I did." Woof. I mean, I I'm
- 54:41just like, I'm telling you, I do this
- 54:44once a week. I do a webinar. I do I do a
- 54:46different example each time, by the way.
- 54:48Like, I literally just hand wrote this
- 54:50note um uh earlier today just in case
- 54:54somebody were to ask me about a
- 54:56handwritten note, and I went ahead and
- 54:57did it. Um, but it's I'm blown away
- 55:00every time I give it like a new little
- 55:02like thing and and just what it can do.
- 55:06Uh, so it's just like just really really
- 55:08really great. Really great. Just blown
- 55:11away. So I'm going to give you I'm
- 55:12saving all these documents and what I'll
- 55:14do is I'll I'll put them in a I'll put
- 55:15them in a folder and uh once I email you
- 55:19and um and and let you know um
- 55:23copies of the slice of stuff, you have
- 55:25access to it and you can do and you can
- 55:27do that. And by the way, Christine says
- 55:28that she figured out the difference
- 55:30between the preachable base. It figured
- 55:32out to take 20% uh for land. Yeah, it's
- 55:36great. Um I love that. Now, we don't
- 55:39have time to get into like building an
- 55:42app, but
- 55:45you can very much have Chad build an app
- 55:48for you. Uh the way you do that is you
- 55:51go into Chad PT and you go into CEX. Um,
- 55:54and then in Codex, then you're gonna
- 55:56say, "Hey, you're gonna choose a
- 55:58project. Choose the folder." By the way,
- 56:00I I write apps all the time. I have an
- 56:03app called write tool. I don't know if
- 56:04we have any right tool users in the
- 56:06house here. Um, and all the time I'm
- 56:08going in there and I'm saying change
- 56:09this, change that, and I like
- 56:11experimenting with building tools for my
- 56:14own app um, in it. And like I don't know
- 56:17any code, and I still don't know any
- 56:18code. I've gotten really good at
- 56:19building apps with this. So you would
- 56:21start a new project here and you would
- 56:22say literally you would say build an app
- 56:24that can do XYZ. It would build the app
- 56:27locally like it would literally like run
- 56:30inside your computer in that folder. And
- 56:33then if you want to take it to the next
- 56:34next next level, you can publish the app
- 56:38by going into this area called sites.
- 56:41And sites is a way that you can turn
- 56:44your ideas into a website. And that
- 56:46website could be the app itself if you
- 56:48want it to be cloud-based. And there's
- 56:50all other ways to do it. Sites is it's
- 56:52the chat GPT response to like GitHub or
- 56:56or Versel or something like that. Again,
- 56:59I topics for a different webinar, right?
- 57:02Um so hint hint, we probably want to do
- 57:04one on on building apps and what that
- 57:06looks like in the accounting world. Uh
- 57:08and that's something I do with Reframe
- 57:10anyway. Um you know, so if you're part
- 57:12of Reframe society, you have access to
- 57:14all that. Uh but uh but yeah, that's
- 57:16kind of the way it is. And like look, it
- 57:17even prompts you here. build a new
- 57:19feature, app, or tool. And I want to say
- 57:21build a prototype. And then I say
- 57:23prototype of a
- 57:26uh really really really basic uh
- 57:29QuickBook style app, right? Something
- 57:31like that. And then you go in there and
- 57:33it'll do it. Again, we got two minutes
- 57:34left, so we really can't get into it,
- 57:36but it'll start doing that. It'll
- 57:38publish it. Like it says it says using
- 57:40the sites building skill because it
- 57:42assumes that you want to have that
- 57:43public, right? So So that's how it it
- 57:45goes outside of your computer.
- 57:48and it is public. So, I will uh I'll
- 57:52stop it there so we can have a a clean
- 57:55ending here. Let me get my slides back
- 57:58just so I can have my email on the
- 58:00screen. I'm going to read the questions
- 58:02one more time just to make sure that
- 58:04I've covered all the uh open questions
- 58:07we have here. Um give me a second while
- 58:10I get the slides back up and with my
- 58:12email because that's really important.
- 58:14people at this point, this is where they
- 58:16go, oh, I had a bunch of questions that
- 58:17weren't answered. You know, Hector, how
- 58:18do I get more help? How do I know you
- 58:20where I should take my firm, you know,
- 58:22like what should I focus on when
- 58:23learning AI? That's what my email is
- 58:25for, right? To like cover all those
- 58:27loose ends that maybe I, you know,
- 58:29weren't able to cover in this webinar
- 58:32where we covered a lot. So, there's my
- 58:34email if you want to learn more about
- 58:35what I do and um and some suggestions on
- 58:38like where to go from here. But I would
- 58:40love to know in the chat in a scale from
- 58:421 to 10 how much and how valuable this
- 58:45two-part series has been for you. Uh
- 58:48that way also the RAM people know does
- 58:50it make sense for us to continue to do
- 58:52more of these uh go deeper, go farther,
- 58:57that sort of thing. And with that being
- 58:59said, I'll let the RAM team wrap it up.
- 59:01Thank you everybody.
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