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Как построить бизнес с Chat GPT? Все промты в видео! Артем Круглов — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Good afternoon. My name is Nikolai
  2. 0:01Khlebinsky. You are on the Action Plan
  3. 0:03channel. Today we are discussing a
  4. 0:04million-dollar idea. What is going to
  5. 0:05happen today? Today's episode is
  6. 0:07different; it's not like our usual ones
  7. 0:09. Usually, we sit and talk, extracting
  8. 0:12the entrepreneur's experience from
  9. 0:14their past decisions, projects,
  10. 0:16failures, successes, and achievements.
  11. 0:19Today, we decided to do things
  12. 0:21completely differently. And today, we
  13. 0:23want to conduct an experiment. We want
  14. 0:32to take all the achievements we can
  15. 0:34reach from every corner of the world,
  16. 0:36from any point in our country, and use
  17. 0:38these advancements in artificial
  18. 0:39intelligence to create a business from
  19. 0:41scratch right here and now, taking
  20. 0:43those first steps that will shorten our
  21. 0:45action plan to a million rubles from
  22. 0:47the several years it used to take to
  23. 0:49start such a business. Down to, well,
  24. 0:56however long we sit here—an hour, an
  25. 0:58hour and a half, or two—chatting,
  26. 1:00drinking coffee, and making something
  27. 1:02happen. Let's see what comes of this.
  28. 1:04This message is for those who have just
  29. 1:06started watching this video. We have
  30. 1:08already been recording for about an
  31. 1:10hour and a half, and we've done things
  32. 1:12here that, well, please watch it from
  33. 1:14beginning to end. If your goal is to
  34. 1:18launch your own IT or internet-related
  35. 1:20business, we've created so much here
  36. 1:23that I am, honestly, in shock. My guest
  37. 1:26today is Artyom Kruglov, founder of the
  38. 1:29company Anquy. Artyom, welcome.
  39. 1:31Yes, hello.
  40. 1:32I realized that the world has changed.
  41. 1:34It will never be the same again.
  42. 1:36With artificial intelligence, you don't
  43. 1:38just work better; you can do the
  44. 1:40impossible. We are just a few years
  45. 1:42away from the moment when a company
  46. 1:44worth over a billion dollars—a
  47. 1:46unicorn—consisting of only one person
  48. 1:48, will appear in the world.
  49. 1:49They come and ask: "Artyom, how do I
  50. 1:51get into artificial intelligence?"
  51. 1:53The phrase: "Artificial intelligence is
  52. 1:55marketing. No such
  53. 1:56intelligence exists." This task used to
  54. 1:59take months, and now it takes seconds.
  55. 2:03If you find something trendy and
  56. 2:05high-margin before anyone else, you win
  57. 2:07. What do you do? Give us the numbers
  58. 2:15that characterize your scale, and
  59. 2:16anything else you think the audience
  60. 2:18should know about you.
  61. 2:19I am 38 years old. I live in Moscow,
  62. 2:21I’m married, and I have a wonderful
  63. 2:24son. And we, in fact, help tens of
  64. 2:27millions of people make successful
  65. 2:30purchases online. Every time you search
  66. 2:34for something in Gold Apple, Samokat,
  67. 2:3712Storeez, or TSUM, the product
  68. 2:39selections in the search and the
  69. 2:40product recommendations are generated
  70. 2:43by us; we provide independent retailers
  71. 2:45with great algorithms for search and
  72. 2:47personalization. So, guys, for those of
  73. 2:52you who aren't familiar with marketing
  74. 2:54automation tools, here's the deal.
  75. 2:59Artyom's company, Iquii, which, by the
  76. 3:01way, was just sold to Tinkoff, is one
  77. 3:04of the rare success stories of building
  78. 3:06a tech startup and achieving a
  79. 3:08successful exit in Russia. They focus
  80. 3:17on providing retailers with AI-driven
  81. 3:19technologies to help boost conversion
  82. 3:21rates, increase average order value,
  83. 3:23grow sales, improve customer lifetime
  84. 3:26value, and so on. Did I get that right?
  85. 3:31Yeah? Just one correction: we have a
  86. 3:34strategic partnership with the Tinkoff
  87. 3:36team, they hold control, but we
  88. 3:38continue to manage the company and
  89. 3:40remain active founders in the business.
  90. 3:44I think it's important to share the
  91. 3:46thought that the path we took was
  92. 3:47incredibly difficult. I mean, when we
  93. 3:50started, there weren't even developers
  94. 3:52who knew the specific technologies we
  95. 3:55needed. Whereas now, you can build a
  96. 3:58prototype in just a day or two and
  97. 4:00already start trying to sign your first
  98. 4:02contracts. Right now, I see that
  99. 4:05there's another boom in California of
  100. 4:07solo entrepreneurs—people who have
  101. 4:09built products on their own and are
  102. 4:11already running them with the help of
  103. 4:13agents. And yes, at this point, one
  104. 4:16might say, "Well, of course, if you
  105. 4:18graduated from the MSU Physics
  106. 4:20Department, maybe you can figure this
  107. 4:22stuff out." But I think the most
  108. 4:26advantageous, the coolest mindset you
  109. 4:28can have right now is that with AI, you
  110. 4:31don't just work better—you can do the
  111. 4:33impossible. The things you were afraid
  112. 4:38to do, the things people always told
  113. 4:40you were impossible—now they’ve
  114. 4:42become possible. That’s the message I
  115. 4:46want to convey to the podcast viewers:
  116. 4:48take a look at this and find the
  117. 4:50courage to do something impossible.
  118. 4:53That sounds really cool. Honestly,
  119. 4:55I’ve seen this happen a couple of
  120. 4:57times—or maybe more than a couple—
  121. 4:59and I’ve encountered AI use cases
  122. 5:01myself where I thought, "Wow, that's
  123. 5:03incredible." We are currently at the
  124. 5:06beginning of this recording. I hope
  125. 5:08we’ll have that same "wow" effect by
  126. 5:10the end. So, make sure to watch until
  127. 5:12the very end. We’re about to show you
  128. 5:16what AI is capable of today. I’ll
  129. 5:21jump in here again to dispel all the
  130. 5:22myths right away.
  131. 5:25Uh-huh. "Artificial Intelligence" is
  132. 5:28just marketing. There is no
  133. 5:30such thing as intelligence. These are
  134. 5:32technologies from the end of the last
  135. 5:34century. Everything that hasn't really
  136. 5:37changed, but what has changed in the
  137. 5:38world since the end of the last century
  138. 5:40, has become much cheaper. Computing
  139. 5:44power. What used to not even fit in
  140. 5:48this room to calculate a flight to the
  141. 5:50Moon, today fits in our pocket, in a
  142. 5:52phone, on a much larger scale. And all
  143. 5:56these things that are usually
  144. 5:58classified as artificial intelligence
  145. 6:00technologies, they are very
  146. 6:01resource-intensive. They require very
  147. 6:04large datasets. They require processing
  148. 6:08those datasets with a large number of
  149. 6:10machines. A very large number of
  150. 6:13machines. There used to be another
  151. 6:15buzzword called "big data." What is big
  152. 6:17data? Well, in my understanding, it’s
  153. 6:19a volume of data that doesn't fit into
  154. 6:21the RAM of a single computer. We have a
  155. 6:23certain number of RAM sticks in our
  156. 6:24laptop. Here we have, say, 32, 64, or
  157. 6:28128 GB of RAM. You can feed it 128 GB
  158. 6:31of data, but it won't take any more.
  159. 6:35Therefore, in the late 2000s, very
  160. 6:37accessible distributed computing
  161. 6:39systems appeared that could break down
  162. 6:41this data and combine computers into a
  163. 6:43cluster that could exchange information
  164. 6:46and calculate it together. And now it's
  165. 6:50just available right in the browser.
  166. 6:52That is, 10-15 years ago, when Artyom
  167. 6:54and I were starting, we needed very
  168. 6:56expensive engineers, just a few who
  169. 6:58actually understood how to connect all
  170. 7:01those 300 servers. These were the
  171. 7:03cutting edge of science, if you will,
  172. 7:05in the field of Data Science,
  173. 7:07right? These were the very best,
  174. 7:09right? So now any student can sit down
  175. 7:12and engage in what is already a huge
  176. 7:14trend called "vibe-coding,"
  177. 7:17right? When you sit down in a cafe, get
  178. 7:22a coffee—I got one downstairs where
  179. 7:24we're sitting—and over coffee and an
  180. 7:26interesting conversation, we whip
  181. 7:28something up, and that something will
  182. 7:30be at the level of several years of
  183. 7:32work by a highly experienced team. Just
  184. 7:36like that.
  185. 7:37It feels like now is the most unique
  186. 7:39opportunity to get into this. I mean,
  187. 7:41you and I know very well what trends
  188. 7:43and changes are happening. There was a
  189. 7:46great trend for the internet. Then
  190. 7:49there was indeed a trend for MarTech
  191. 7:51and ML, which we caught. Uh-huh.
  192. 7:53And now you can see this wave, which is
  193. 7:55causing a FOMO effect among
  194. 7:57entrepreneurs. I see a ton of
  195. 7:59entrepreneurs who are doing other
  196. 8:00things. They come and say, "Artyom, how
  197. 8:02do I get into artificial intelligence?
  198. 8:04I want to get into this, tell me how."
  199. 8:06And so on. Yeah. And so, I think we
  200. 8:08need to talk about this, explain how it
  201. 8:10can be used, and provide the main tools
  202. 8:12. We won't cover all the tools today,
  203. 8:13but we'll—
  204. 8:14we'll make another episode if it goes
  205. 8:16well. I'll gather my thoughts again.
  206. 8:17Actually, I think you could make a
  207. 8:18separate podcast just on this topic.
  208. 8:20Where shall we begin? We will start by
  209. 8:22finding a niche. We need to understand
  210. 8:23what to do. We have prepared three
  211. 8:26approaches to finding a niche using
  212. 8:27artificial intelligence. You will now
  213. 8:31watch how this is done on my screen. I
  214. 8:34have ChatGPT open. There. So, I have
  215. 8:38prepared one prompt. Artem has prepared
  216. 8:42one prompt. And I will also show one
  217. 8:44more approach that often works for me,
  218. 8:46which you can do too. The prompt Artem
  219. 8:49brought today is in English. So my
  220. 8:52first request—a prompt, by the way,
  221. 8:54is a request given to artificial
  222. 8:56intelligence, which is then processed
  223. 8:58and helps us get a result.
  224. 9:01Nevertheless, I think it is good
  225. 9:03practice to submit requests in English.
  226. 9:06The quality improves a bit, so as not
  227. 9:08to lose it. And you can always use
  228. 9:11translators, so you can write in
  229. 9:13Russian.
  230. 9:13Let's translate it now, read it in
  231. 9:15Russian, and then use the original
  232. 9:17English, because these are life hacks
  233. 9:19for you—that using it in English is a
  234. 9:21bit more effective. Translate the
  235. 9:24request into Russian, so we all
  236. 9:29understand its meaning, right?
  237. 9:30Yes, there are two types of models.
  238. 9:32Some that generate the next words, and
  239. 9:34others that know how to reason. And at
  240. 9:37the moment of reasoning, it generates
  241. 9:39about 10 or maybe even 100,000 thought
  242. 9:41threads and then chooses the best one.
  243. 9:43And this is the version called O3,
  244. 9:45right? Version O3.
  245. 9:46I see that it is currently rewriting,
  246. 9:48right?
  247. 9:49Meaning it shows its reasoning. Yes. It
  248. 9:51thought for 25 seconds. "You are a
  249. 9:53counterintuitive digital product
  250. 9:55strategist, combining market insight
  251. 9:57with bold imagination." Inject as much
  252. 10:00context as possible for ChatGPT and
  253. 10:02other neural networks so they
  254. 10:03understand what we want from them. Goal
  255. 10:06: create exactly 100 ideas solely for
  256. 10:09software products that could
  257. 10:10potentially generate $ 100,000 in
  258. 10:12monthly revenue. Each idea must be
  259. 10:15oriented toward a target audience. This
  260. 10:17is what we need to add and write in now
  261. 10:18. Originality is critical. No idea
  262. 10:21should overlap in its value proposition
  263. 10:23. Quickly write down 100 short ones. So
  264. 10:26, in short, that's the prompt. Alright,
  265. 10:28let's take it again. Open a new chat.
  266. 10:32What do we need to enter here? We need
  267. 10:34to enter something here in square
  268. 10:36brackets. It was here
  269. 10:38a bit higher up. Go ahead.
  270. 10:41Here is the target audience. Let's say
  271. 10:44for marketplace sellers.
  272. 10:46So, also let's specifically say
  273. 10:52Wildberries and Ozon sellers. Like that
  274. 11:00. I'd rather
  275. 11:05in Russia. So, place your bets. Here is
  276. 11:08the most banal idea. Most of the
  277. 11:10startups around working with sellers
  278. 11:12that I see. These are analytical tools
  279. 11:16for marketplace sellers, as well as
  280. 11:18repricers and bidders—essentially
  281. 11:20tools that manage pricing and
  282. 11:22advertising bids on marketplaces.
  283. 11:25Let’s give it a try. Yes, that’s
  284. 11:27the obvious path, and as an
  285. 11:29entrepreneur, it’s not something
  286. 11:30I’d want to do because each of these
  287. 11:33niches already has established leaders.
  288. 11:35In analytics, it’s MPStats; in ad
  289. 11:38management, it’s Xway. There you go.
  290. 11:41Second, there are dozens, maybe even
  291. 11:43hundreds of small teams already working
  292. 11:45in that space. I wouldn’t want to
  293. 11:47jump into a "Red Ocean" right from the
  294. 11:49start. But let’s take a look anyway.
  295. 11:51Since I’m often around sellers, I
  296. 11:53have a pretty good idea of their pain
  297. 11:55points and even know what kind of apps
  298. 11:57could be built. Now let’s see what
  299. 11:59niches it suggests for us. Alright,
  300. 12:01let’s go. Starting it up. We’ll
  301. 12:03make the second prompt easier,
  302. 12:05yes,
  303. 12:06significantly easier, which I’ve
  304. 12:07already prepared. I’ve got the prompt
  305. 12:09ready in Russian. So, you are a product
  306. 12:12strategist, visionary, and startup
  307. 12:14architect. Your task is to come up with
  308. 12:16a service. A service for sellers.
  309. 12:24Let’s come up with 10 product ideas
  310. 12:26in this niche. A service for
  311. 12:31marketplace sellers on Wildberries and
  312. 12:37Ozon, that people would actually enjoy
  313. 12:42using and be willing to pay for. One
  314. 12:44that has a real product-market fit.
  315. 12:50I’ll tell you about myself, and you
  316. 12:52propose 10 product ideas. Let’s make
  317. 12:57it 10, with names. Explain why it would
  318. 12:59work. Preferably with monetization
  319. 13:02examples. I need to put my info here.
  320. 13:06What should we write about ourselves?
  321. 13:09That I’m a serial entrepreneur. I
  322. 13:12study a lot, and I’m into chess. I
  323. 13:20don’t know what else to write.
  324. 13:21My name is Nikolai, most importantly,
  325. 13:23and
  326. 13:24chess. My name is Nikolai. Right, ask
  327. 13:30me a clarifying question. Don't suggest
  328. 13:32something generic. And one more thing I
  329. 13:42want to add, to make it more relevant,
  330. 13:44is that the product you propose must
  331. 13:46have the potential to reach 1 billion
  332. 13:48rubles in annual revenue. Let’s do
  333. 13:57that; it’s all important.
  334. 13:58There’s a "write more" button, so it
  335. 14:00generates all of this for us at once.
  336. 14:02What do you mean, generate?
  337. 14:03To have it generate all of this for us?
  338. 14:05Yes, yes, generate it for now. Go ahead
  339. 14:07.
  340. 14:08My profile, list it when you're done.
  341. 14:10Alright, let it work. And third, what I
  342. 14:13want to do. The third prompt. This
  343. 14:17trick has worked for me many times when
  344. 14:19the results from other prompts didn't
  345. 14:21satisfy me. If I’m not happy with the
  346. 14:26results, I assume the issue might be
  347. 14:28with the prompt itself. So, my prompt
  348. 14:34looks like this. Come up with a prompt
  349. 14:36for me. That is exactly what we are
  350. 14:38going to do now. We are doing this from
  351. 14:40audio. Hello. So, I am a serial
  352. 14:43entrepreneur. I'm here with another
  353. 14:45entrepreneur. My name is Nikolai. I am
  354. 14:47with another entrepreneur named Artyom.
  355. 14:50We are recording a podcast, and right
  356. 14:52here on the recording, we're coming up
  357. 14:54with our next business venture. We need
  358. 14:57an idea for an IT startup, for a
  359. 14:59technology company. We are looking for
  360. 15:03a niche where we can create a software
  361. 15:06product, a so-called SaaS cloud service
  362. 15:08, for sellers on the marketplaces
  363. 15:10Wildberries.ru and Ozon.ru, which could
  364. 15:12potentially reach a revenue of 1
  365. 15:14billion rubles. Per year, potentially.
  366. 15:20And one that can be built as quickly as
  367. 15:22possible, so that our first version for
  368. 15:25testing hypotheses appears as fast and
  369. 15:27as cheaply as possible. Please. Ask me
  370. 15:34what you need to ask me, and come up
  371. 15:35with a prompt yourself that I should
  372. 15:37give you so that the result turns out
  373. 15:39the best. That's it. That's about 30
  374. 15:44seconds of speech. Now this text will
  375. 15:47be recognized, or rather, this audio
  376. 15:49will be transcribed into text. I will
  377. 15:51give it to ChatGPT to think about. It
  378. 15:53will create the prompt and immediately
  379. 15:55provide the result itself. There was a
  380. 15:57recent OpenAI conference. That is the
  381. 15:59developer of ChatGPT. And their CEO,
  382. 16:03Sam Altman, known to everyone, stated
  383. 16:05that it is only a few years away until
  384. 16:08a company worth over a billion dollars
  385. 16:10—a unicorn—appears in the world,
  386. 16:12consisting of just one person doing
  387. 16:15what we are doing today. They might
  388. 16:20have coded something, but they found
  389. 16:22such a niche, such a gap between demand
  390. 16:24and supply, which was easily bridged by
  391. 16:26the kind of mechanisms we are playing
  392. 16:28with today, that they built a unicorn,
  393. 16:31maybe even went to IPO and cashed out
  394. 16:33properly, and this event is just a few
  395. 16:35years away. Maybe someone watching us
  396. 16:39right now will be that first person.
  397. 16:42We are already using agents internally,
  398. 16:45and I would say that we probably have
  399. 16:47four or five agents working. It’s
  400. 16:51just a program we run, but it would be
  401. 16:53quite possible to give them names,
  402. 16:55positions, and job descriptions. Right.
  403. 16:59But I heard another story, that the
  404. 17:01main competitor to OpenAI, a company
  405. 17:04called Anthropic, said that 90%of the
  406. 17:06system's code was written by the system
  407. 17:08itself. It writes 90%of its own code.
  408. 17:12Cool. Yeah. The next mega-trend in this
  409. 17:16story is, of course, the reduction of
  410. 17:18resources allocated to the payroll for
  411. 17:21engineers. We see American companies
  412. 17:24cutting thousands, tens of thousands of
  413. 17:27people. And these waves are already
  414. 17:29reaching us. Those in my circle
  415. 17:33involved in IT recruiting are also
  416. 17:34hinting that, guys, things are starting
  417. 17:37to look bad for us. They still blame
  418. 17:40the economy for now, but the battle for
  419. 17:42productivity is sort of beginning. For
  420. 17:44now, the code this thing writes cannot
  421. 17:46survive without a human, without an
  422. 17:48operator, without an expert. Because
  423. 17:52there's total nonsense sometimes, and
  424. 17:54there must be an expert to fix it, but
  425. 17:56the expert's labor costs are reduced
  426. 17:58significantly, by orders of magnitude.
  427. 18:01Do you remember that story about
  428. 18:03musketeers and archers when there was a
  429. 18:05war, I think between...
  430. 18:07No, tell me.
  431. 18:09I might get the location wrong. Maybe
  432. 18:12it was a war in Asia and the French
  433. 18:14musketeers were able to win tactically.
  434. 18:19And the main advantage was that to get
  435. 18:21an archer, you need to train him from
  436. 18:23the age of 10 for a long time. But a
  437. 18:26musketeer, you just give him a stick
  438. 18:28and say: "Shoot." He trained for a
  439. 18:30month. If a musketeer was killed, no
  440. 18:33big deal. The next one will come and be
  441. 18:35trained quickly. Oh.
  442. 18:36Like, muskets were less effective back
  443. 18:38then than bows? Is that what you mean?
  444. 18:40At the dawn of it.
  445. 18:43Maybe the archers were much more
  446. 18:45accurate and skilled, but there were
  447. 18:47far more musketeers. And there was a
  448. 18:50big essay which stated that...we won't
  449. 18:55lose developers, we'll have 10, 100,000
  450. 18:58, 100 times more developers. Meaning,
  451. 19:01everyone will become a developer.
  452. 19:03Well, yeah. I recently heard a thought
  453. 19:06that, you know, uh, most people...
  454. 19:10Uh-huh.
  455. 19:12are proxies between a computer and a
  456. 19:14user of some service or product.
  457. 19:17Meaning they are simply an interface.
  458. 19:20We go to a bank, there's a person
  459. 19:22sitting at a computer, typing in a form
  460. 19:24, filling it out, checking boxes,
  461. 19:26taking notes for us. Well, artificial
  462. 19:28intelligence will handle all of this
  463. 19:30very soon, and definitely better. There
  464. 19:33are people who take orders, people who
  465. 19:35perform other functions, in short,
  466. 19:37acting between the consumer and the
  467. 19:39computer. And they will be replaced
  468. 19:42soon, including by things like this.
  469. 19:45Listen, let me tell you a scary story.
  470. 19:51News just came out that in the States,
  471. 19:53young professionals can't find jobs.
  472. 19:58The demand for them is falling.
  473. 20:00Unemployment is rising sharply among
  474. 20:02developers and analysts. And maybe
  475. 20:07something is happening with their
  476. 20:08economy, but I think this is already
  477. 20:10the first wave of artificial
  478. 20:11intelligence. Yeah. And I think that we
  479. 20:17will face this in our economy in 2-3
  480. 20:19years. It was interesting that everyone
  481. 20:25said: "Go into IT, everything will be
  482. 20:27fine for you." Everyone somehow started
  483. 20:29running from there. It turns out they
  484. 20:31created a problem for themselves, right
  485. 20:33? It turns out they created their own
  486. 20:36replacement.
  487. 20:37Well, no, I don't think so. I don't
  488. 20:39know. When I was applying to university
  489. 20:41, I really wanted to get into
  490. 20:43everything related to computers. I was
  491. 20:46so interested in it. My parents told me
  492. 20:49: "No, you're not going to be a
  493. 20:51programmer." They've made so many of
  494. 20:53these programmers that nobody needs
  495. 20:55them anymore. That was the early 2000s.
  496. 20:5920-plus years ago. So, 20-plus years
  497. 21:02later, skilled engineers are still in
  498. 21:05huge demand. There. And, well, in
  499. 21:08general, people who work in IT are
  500. 21:11economically significantly more
  501. 21:12successful on average than most other
  502. 21:15professions, they are at the top.
  503. 21:18Our model is deep in thought, doing
  504. 21:20something,
  505. 21:21right? Writing code.
  506. 21:23Writing code for some reason. Yes. An
  507. 21:27idea about draining a competitor's
  508. 21:29stock just flashed by here. Well, let
  509. 21:34me tell you the story of one of my
  510. 21:36close friends who actually had this
  511. 21:38problem. What can a competitor do? What
  512. 21:43can they do on Wildberries if you're a
  513. 21:45seller? They can take it from your
  514. 21:47Moscow warehouse. You've shipped some
  515. 21:49great item to the Moscow warehouse that
  516. 21:51sells really well for you. They can
  517. 21:54order all that remaining stock to
  518. 21:56somewhere like Novosibirsk. It will
  519. 21:59take 2 weeks to get there. The seller
  520. 22:03whose goods are being shipped will be
  521. 22:05charged for the logistics. The goods
  522. 22:08will stay there in Novosibirsk at the
  523. 22:10pickup point, and nobody will pick them
  524. 22:12up. They will lie there for another
  525. 22:13week. Then they will return to the
  526. 22:15Novosibirsk warehouse, where there are
  527. 22:16no sales for this item because, for
  528. 22:18example, it's something for summer, but
  529. 22:20it's cold there, or it's just something
  530. 22:22unsuitable for Novosibirsk. In general,
  531. 22:23in MPSA, you can see which item sells
  532. 22:25in which region. During this time, this
  533. 22:27bestseller won't be sold to those who
  534. 22:29actually need it. And it will just lie
  535. 22:31there too, and you'll have to pay for
  536. 22:33storage. This is an attack that, as I
  537. 22:36understand it, competitors carry out on
  538. 22:38each other with regular frequency. And
  539. 22:40Wildberries itself doesn't do anything
  540. 22:42about it because they make money on it.
  541. 22:44They take a storage commission, so
  542. 22:45they're fine with it. So, our first one
  543. 22:47is still thinking.
  544. 22:48And my first one on another model has
  545. 22:50already generated 100 ideas. And
  546. 22:52actually, I think that this is
  547. 22:54something we should just take and
  548. 22:56publish: 100 business ideas for WB.
  549. 23:00Well, let the guys just implement some
  550. 23:02of them in the comments.
  551. 23:03Yeah. Okay, the first request is just
  552. 23:05your most powerful one. That's why it's
  553. 23:07taking a long time. Let it work. Uh, so
  554. 23:10. But the result of the second prompt
  555. 23:12just came in.
  556. 23:13Uh-huh. Let's take a look.
  557. 23:14Yeah, let's see what's happening here.
  558. 23:16The Pricing Gambit,
  559. 23:17right? So, I shouldn't have said I like
  560. 23:20chess. Uh, title and hook. Uh, MVP
  561. 23:26version of a Telegram bot where a
  562. 23:28seller uploads a sales file. The bot
  563. 23:30provides three strategic moves. So it's
  564. 23:33an advisor that will help earn a bit
  565. 23:35more. Blitz reviews. Instant review
  566. 23:39collection. The user scans a QR code on
  567. 23:41the packaging. Yeah, so this is a
  568. 23:44really important thing on WBIS.
  569. 23:46Ranking depends heavily on that, and
  570. 23:48conversion down the funnel, what your
  571. 23:50card's rating is, and in our part of
  572. 23:52the world
  573. 23:53You can stick a QR on
  574. 23:55You shouldn't, but everyone does it
  575. 23:56anyway. In our part of the world, it's
  576. 23:58just not customary to leave positive
  577. 24:00reviews. In our part of the world, it's
  578. 24:02customary to speak up,
  579. 24:03if something bad has happened. That's
  580. 24:07why you have to work on improving the
  581. 24:09card rating all the time, and sellers
  582. 24:11try to get reviews by any means
  583. 24:12necessary. And there are actually a
  584. 24:17couple of cool bots you can buy for
  585. 24:18money.
  586. 24:20There. But I don't really like them, so
  587. 24:22I would put this idea on the shortlist.
  588. 24:24A bot for collecting reviews. This is a
  589. 24:28product you can sell to all sellers on
  590. 24:30a subscription basis. There. Uh, here
  591. 24:32there's also a QR sticker generator. I
  592. 24:34see, it wrote. Yeah, points, perks,
  593. 24:37mini-prize, heat map. Well, pretty cool
  594. 24:41. So, product card bots,
  595. 24:43right? A/B testing for cards. What is
  596. 24:46an A/B test? An A/B test is when we
  597. 24:48take two versions of something, split
  598. 24:51our audience randomly in half, and one
  599. 24:53part interacts with the first version,
  600. 24:55the second with the second. And we see
  601. 24:57which one has better sales, which one
  602. 24:59has better customer reviews, to decide
  603. 25:02which version to use. Well, it's like
  604. 25:04Cherchesov at the World Cup. Either
  605. 25:06I'll call up Kokorin to the squad, or
  606. 25:08Dzyuba, and see which works better.
  607. 25:10Good.
  608. 25:12So, uh, a Chrome extension pulling card
  609. 25:15KPIs, a win-loss chart, Notion doc, but
  610. 25:18there's no proper API on the platforms
  611. 25:20to run A/B tests for cards. There's
  612. 25:23some raw internal functionality.
  613. 25:25There. So for now,
  614. 25:28what I wanted to tell you is that our
  615. 25:30next prompt will be ideas for
  616. 25:31challenges. There. So we can just
  617. 25:33quickly make some selections now.
  618. 25:35Micro-warehouse sounds really cool. A
  619. 25:38P2P network
  620. 25:39of empty garages, offices. Combining
  621. 25:42them into a platform. I think it's a
  622. 25:44very cool hypothesis. I don't know how
  623. 25:46many empty garages there are that could
  624. 25:48be turned into offices, but I know that
  625. 25:50storage businesses blew up a few years
  626. 25:52ago. I mean, those buildings that were
  627. 25:54renovated and converted into small
  628. 25:56storage units are all occupied now.
  629. 25:58These units.
  630. 25:58Well, I wanted to point one thing out
  631. 26:00here. The fact that
  632. 26:03even though you are, well, simply an
  633. 26:05expert, and you have insane experience
  634. 26:07with both tech projects and marketplace
  635. 26:09businesses, we're already seeing
  636. 26:11something new in these five ideas that
  637. 26:13we hadn't thought of.
  638. 26:16Yes, I hadn't thought about that at all
  639. 26:18. So, this thing here is cool. I don't
  640. 26:21know why it pulled us into chess.
  641. 26:23An influencer exchange
  642. 26:24with a rating system, perhaps. You see,
  643. 26:27absolutely all marketplace sellers,
  644. 26:29when I get into their community, say: "
  645. 26:31Guys, girls, what's up with bloggers?
  646. 26:33Whoever knows how to work with bloggers
  647. 26:35effectively, the one who knows, doesn't
  648. 26:37tell anyone." Actually, that's just the
  649. 26:38way it is in the marketplace world.
  650. 26:39Nobody tells anyone anything. Someone
  651. 26:41finds a good angle and stays silent.
  652. 26:43They sit there like a partisan because
  653. 26:44as soon as it's leaked, it will stop
  654. 26:46working and that's it. Uh, influencer
  655. 26:48aggregators that work well with
  656. 26:50bloggers—they don't exist. They exist
  657. 26:53in-house for big sellers, large trading
  658. 26:55companies, and major retailers. They
  659. 26:57keep their own databases, watching what
  660. 26:59worked for whom, but a general
  661. 27:01aggregator like that doesn't exist.
  662. 27:02Very cool. So, reasons for returns.
  663. 27:07Import directory, Club 64, a premium
  664. 27:10mastermind for sellers with chess
  665. 27:12sparring. So, by the way, such a
  666. 27:15business already exists. There really
  667. 27:18wasn't a landmark, cool mastermind
  668. 27:21among sellers. Now there is, it's
  669. 27:23called Big Russian Brands. Seryozha
  670. 27:25Filippov, we send our greetings to you.
  671. 27:27He was a guest on this podcast a few
  672. 27:29years ago. Now there really is the
  673. 27:31coolest mastermind. That's how it is.
  674. 27:34Okay. Well, I like what I'm seeing.
  675. 27:37Let's see what yours did.
  676. 27:38No, it doesn't want to. Switch to
  677. 27:40another model and let's restart. So,
  678. 27:43well, in short, this is the fast
  679. 27:45ChatGPT model we are currently running
  680. 27:48this prompt through. We decided to do
  681. 27:5020 ideas instead of the 100 we
  682. 27:52initially planned, just to generate
  683. 27:54them and save time. But you can do 20
  684. 27:57or 20,000. Basically, let me convey one
  685. 28:00thought here about how models differ.
  686. 28:03There are models that appeared first,
  687. 28:05that came out first. GPT-3.5 and, by
  688. 28:09the way, I think it's been a few years
  689. 28:13now, GPT-4o. These are models that, in
  690. 28:18their own way, only predicted the next
  691. 28:20word.
  692. 28:21Uh-huh.
  693. 28:22Based on the previous context. And you
  694. 28:25can think of such models as a very,
  695. 28:27very large archive of the internet.
  696. 28:29Uh-huh.
  697. 28:29So, we simply took all the knowledge
  698. 28:31that exists,
  699. 28:32Uh-huh.
  700. 28:33compressed it into a model, and you can
  701. 28:35extract it from there. With prompts.
  702. 28:38From one side, from the other. There.
  703. 28:40And here we saw that the model was
  704. 28:42already thinking for 54 seconds on the
  705. 28:44screen,
  706. 28:46and a reasoning layer was added to them
  707. 28:48, which significantly improved their
  708. 28:50quality, and they were already able to
  709. 28:52solve problems involving instructions,
  710. 28:54tasks, and executing certain
  711. 28:56directions. And such models are called
  712. 28:58agentic or reasoning models.
  713. 29:00Uh-huh.
  714. 29:00There. And there was a big breakthrough
  715. 29:02in them. Moreover, we are currently
  716. 29:04using the O4 Mini version. Uh, this is
  717. 29:06a lightweight version of the O4 model.
  718. 29:08We tried to do it on regular O4, but it
  719. 29:11took too long, and we just switched to
  720. 29:13the lightweight version here to save
  721. 29:15time and show examples. But you can try
  722. 29:17O4, the results there will be even
  723. 29:19cooler. Let's ask it to translate into
  724. 29:21Russian. We got 20 results. Translate
  725. 29:27the results into Russian. Okay, while
  726. 29:35it's thinking, let's see about our
  727. 29:37third model.
  728. 29:38Uh-huh.
  729. 29:38Uh, so, for the idea to really take off
  730. 29:41, we need to clarify six things. Then I
  731. 29:43will be able to provide the most
  732. 29:45accurate and viable one. Pain points of
  733. 29:47sellers. Okay, uh, good. Let's just
  734. 29:50answer here by voice. We'll go in
  735. 29:52dialogue mode as well. So, we need to
  736. 29:54find out the pain points of sellers. We
  737. 29:57aren't marketplace sellers, we don't
  738. 29:58know them. Therefore, we need to
  739. 30:00analyze it somehow, imagine that you
  740. 30:02are a seller yourself. And come up with
  741. 30:05it yourself, find out what problems
  742. 30:07sellers face. How many people are ready
  743. 30:10to work on the MVP right now? Right now
  744. 30:12, there are two of us sitting here. We
  745. 30:17will white-code the prototype, and then
  746. 30:19our plan is to probably outsource the
  747. 30:21development to one of the many software
  748. 30:23outsourcing companies. So, uh, do you
  749. 30:28have your own stores? No, we don't have
  750. 30:31stores. A community, yes, we have one.
  751. 30:33We will find sellers, go to a
  752. 30:35conference, we can talk to them, and
  753. 30:37when we have the product ready, we can
  754. 30:39get feedback from it. What budget and
  755. 30:42time frame do you have, and when should
  756. 30:44it start paying off? Well, we should
  757. 30:47reach self-sufficiency within the first
  758. 30:49year, and we should capture at least 1%
  759. 30:52of the total addressable market in the
  760. 30:54first year. That’s that answer. So,
  761. 30:59is borrowed money acceptable? Well, we
  762. 31:02assume that we are coding all this on
  763. 31:04our own, and we won't have access to
  764. 31:06debt financing. Especially since banks
  765. 31:08don't like giving loans to IT companies
  766. 31:10because they have nothing on their
  767. 31:12balance sheets and there's nothing to
  768. 31:13take from them later. But we are
  769. 31:16counting on venture capital. We are
  770. 31:18counting on the fact that once we have
  771. 31:20prototypes, market feedback, and some
  772. 31:22positive soft commitments for sales,
  773. 31:24we'll be able to attract venture
  774. 31:26funding, even in the current economic
  775. 31:28situation. I think that won't be a
  776. 31:29problem. So, do you plan to target the
  777. 31:31top 300 sellers, focus on a high
  778. 31:33average check, or go for the long tail?
  779. 31:35I don't know, we need to calculate it.
  780. 31:37Our goal is to reach a revenue of one
  781. 31:39billion per year over the next few
  782. 31:41years. So, you tell us which segment we
  783. 31:45should target. I don't know. We are
  784. 31:47focusing on the Russian market. Yes, we
  785. 31:49are focusing on the Russian market for
  786. 31:51now. We don't want to go anywhere else
  787. 31:53yet. Are you ready to invest in LLM
  788. 31:56features? Uh, do we need classic BI or
  789. 32:00ERP? That's it, those are very
  790. 32:02complicated words. We don't really want
  791. 32:04to dive into them right now. We just
  792. 32:07need everything to be clear, verified,
  793. 32:09launched, and tested. Uh, that's it,
  794. 32:12waiting for the request. And there's an
  795. 32:14example of the request right here,
  796. 32:15right? We, Nikolai and Artem, want a
  797. 32:18SaaS.
  798. 32:18Uh-huh.
  799. 32:19There. Right, well, this text is being
  800. 32:22recognized now, I'll send it.
  801. 32:23Let's go read the ideas that were
  802. 32:25translated.
  803. 32:26Yes, let's translate the ideas, more
  804. 32:28complex models. Artem's request.
  805. 32:31Price-pulse. Difficulties, manual price
  806. 32:34setting. Yes, a repricer, price
  807. 32:36adjustment, is indeed lying on the
  808. 32:38surface. That really does exist. And
  809. 32:41there are, well, a lot of repricers out
  810. 32:43there now. They have many interesting
  811. 32:45use cases. I've looked into this niche.
  812. 32:49Uh, the competition there is too big,
  813. 32:51it's too...
  814. 32:53There's also a threat, I think, from
  815. 32:55Wildberries and Ozon, because they want
  816. 32:57this direction. There is a conflict of
  817. 32:59interest there. There is, for example,
  818. 33:02a use case like raising the price
  819. 33:06during off-peak hours. That is one use
  820. 33:08case for a repricer. Very cool. It's
  821. 33:11not profitable for Wildberries. It
  822. 33:13works against Wildberries because they
  823. 33:15force sellers to rank higher and join
  824. 33:17promotions, and the promo price is
  825. 33:19taken as the median price for the last
  826. 33:2130 days. If you raise the price
  827. 33:24slightly during off-peak hours when
  828. 33:26demand is statistically low, your
  829. 33:27median price increases, and your promo
  830. 33:30price also increases. And that boosts
  831. 33:32your margins. But Wildberries will
  832. 33:33never implement such scenarios. It goes
  833. 33:35, it goes to the detriment of their
  834. 33:37earnings. Wildberries, they aren't
  835. 33:38interested in that. But there is
  836. 33:39something else there. Inventory planner
  837. 33:41. Inventory management. A huge problem,
  838. 33:45I'll be honest. None of the sellers
  839. 33:49really know how much stock to order,
  840. 33:51when to order more, and when to order
  841. 33:53less. I’ve talked a lot about this
  842. 33:58with people who are actually in the
  843. 33:59business. Most people have a very poor
  844. 34:03understanding of what a seasonality
  845. 34:05index is. Just, what is a seasonality
  846. 34:08index? Very few people have a clear
  847. 34:11idea of what return on equity is and
  848. 34:13how the speed of money turnover affects
  849. 34:15the business’s financial health.
  850. 34:19I’ve just said all these words. There
  851. 34:21are probably many sellers watching us,
  852. 34:23and they’ll be like, "What did he
  853. 34:24just say?" But, guys, this is the key
  854. 34:26figure in your business. Return on
  855. 34:28equity. Google it. There you go. And
  856. 34:31illiquid stock that piles up in
  857. 34:32warehouses is, I don’t know how to
  858. 34:35put it, a cancer. In short, in this
  859. 34:38business model, it just grows on its
  860. 34:40own. And these things treat it, which I
  861. 34:43think is a very strong hypothesis that
  862. 34:45we didn't have before. To build a smart
  863. 34:48tool that analyzes purchases, inventory
  864. 34:50, and sales, and turns on red lights,
  865. 34:53telling you, "Look, it's time to order
  866. 34:55this," because it’s all coming from
  867. 34:57China. Production is 15-25 days, 25-35
  868. 35:01days for logistics, a week for
  869. 35:03processing, then delivery to the
  870. 35:05marketplace in Moscow, and then some
  871. 35:07sales cycle for all of this. So we've
  872. 35:10created a production-logistics-sales
  873. 35:12cycle of 65-80 days.
  874. 35:14You've gotten a bit carried away,
  875. 35:15acting like you've already made a
  876. 35:16billion. Just go ahead and do it.
  877. 35:18I’m just describing the business
  878. 35:19model; it’s a cool thing, in short.
  879. 35:22Micro-trends are also absolute gold.
  880. 35:26Whoever cracks this won't be running
  881. 35:28this kind of business; they'll use it
  882. 35:30for themselves and won't tell anyone
  883. 35:31how it’s done. Because the most
  884. 35:34important question is what to sell on
  885. 35:36the marketplace. Everything else—if
  886. 35:39you find something trendy and
  887. 35:41high-margin before anyone else—
  888. 35:43you’ll be forgiven for lacking
  889. 35:44everything else I mentioned before.
  890. 35:47How long does a product actually last
  891. 35:49these days? I mean, if we find, say,
  892. 35:51months...
  893. 35:52It's literally called product arbitrage
  894. 35:54. Then other arbitrageurs see that
  895. 35:56it’s taking off, they order the same
  896. 35:58thing, and that's it. Okay,
  897. 36:00non-converting photos and tools for
  898. 36:02photo correction. Well, it's a cool
  899. 36:05thing, but it feels weak to me.
  900. 36:07Maybe you can make $ 10,000, but
  901. 36:09probably not more.
  902. 36:12I think it’s weak because the photos
  903. 36:14are still kind of mediocre. You can
  904. 36:18tell they're generated, and you need
  905. 36:20too much volume for anything to really
  906. 36:22work. Launching competitor promotions,
  907. 36:25tracking products. That’s a cool
  908. 36:28thing. Honestly, there still isn't a
  909. 36:31proper—well, there are Telegram bots,
  910. 36:33but it seems there's still no good,
  911. 36:35convenient solution that tracks
  912. 36:37competitor prices. Uh, price wars in
  913. 36:40marketplace retail are a really big
  914. 36:42deal. And having a simple alert system
  915. 36:45to tell you something has happened and
  916. 36:47you need to check your price—that’s
  917. 36:49important. I'm not even talking about
  918. 36:53events like promo launches and
  919. 36:54competitor actions; there's price, and
  920. 36:56there are other events too. A manager
  921. 37:00messes up and doesn't set the right
  922. 37:02price they were supposed to, so you
  923. 37:04need something to trigger an alert,
  924. 37:06because there are so many problems,
  925. 37:07like someone accidentally setting a
  926. 37:09price too low. That happens from time
  927. 37:12to time. Bots immediately buy up the
  928. 37:15entire stock. Wildberries sees the bots
  929. 37:18, instantly penalizes the seller's card
  930. 37:21, and says, "You're engaging in
  931. 37:22black-hat promotion here." At the same
  932. 37:25time, it keeps all the buyouts, and
  933. 37:26support just sends template replies. In
  934. 37:28short, it’s a total disaster. Okay,
  935. 37:31limited listings,
  936. 37:34SEO optimization. Uh, I think it's very
  937. 37:37promising.
  938. 37:39No one on WB—well, out of the sellers
  939. 37:42I talk to—understands how SEO should
  940. 37:44be structured. We actually do this
  941. 37:48professionally. We've just launched six
  942. 37:51pilots with large sellers. And for one
  943. 37:54seller, we took half their product
  944. 37:55listings and significantly increased
  945. 37:57their sales. Meaning, we split the
  946. 38:00stock into two parts.
  947. 38:01Review monitoring—listen, that’s a
  948. 38:03cool thing. The guys at MPSTATS are
  949. 38:05doing "Micro-FO."
  950. 38:06Everyone knows you need to read reviews
  951. 38:08, both yours and your competitors '.
  952. 38:10It's part of product research. It's
  953. 38:11part of the functionality for a product
  954. 38:13selection service. The point is that
  955. 38:15you need to analyze what people
  956. 38:17complain about, what they like, and
  957. 38:19what they dislike, and based on that,
  958. 38:21look for product hypotheses. Yeah. And
  959. 38:23this is actually an opportunity, so,
  960. 38:25well, in short, it’s a cool feature,
  961. 38:28I think.
  962. 38:28It’s like you start to hear the voice
  963. 38:30of the customer.
  964. 38:31Anyway, I think there’s actually no
  965. 38:33point in us continuing further. There
  966. 38:35are really some
  967. 38:35great ideas here.
  968. 38:37Very great ideas that were born in just
  969. 38:39a few minutes. Let’s try our third
  970. 38:41approach now. Uh, right. The audio has
  971. 38:44finished transcribing.
  972. 38:49Uh, let it think for a bit. Uh, so,
  973. 38:51what do we have? We have very strong,
  974. 38:56promising ideas that, with my 15 years
  975. 38:58of experience in digital business and
  976. 39:01startups, I really like. I feel that
  977. 39:05they are promising. Even though we just
  978. 39:08came up with what to do, I hadn't
  979. 39:10thought about it like this before. Uh,
  980. 39:13so, let me remind you what our idea was
  981. 39:15for this first part: to find a niche.
  982. 39:18Now we'll take any niche. We took three
  983. 39:22prompts. The first was from Artyom,
  984. 39:24which he found on the internet. I also
  985. 39:26found my own reel, found my own prompt,
  986. 39:29some reel popped up in my
  987. 39:30recommendations. And this is how I use
  988. 39:33it all the time, when I don't get a
  989. 39:35result I like, I describe the context
  990. 39:37in a short audio message and say: "Why
  991. 39:39don't you make me one." The request
  992. 39:43that I should give you. Like that. Well
  993. 39:47, here we got a cool result. We,
  994. 39:49Nikolai, Artyom, will no-code the
  995. 39:51prototype, then we'll outsource
  996. 39:53development for half a million. Yeah.
  997. 39:55We want a 12-month payback period. It's
  998. 39:58all set up great. So, uh, confirmed
  999. 40:02pain points. So I said, yeah, I told
  1000. 40:04him: "Ask me everything you need to ask
  1001. 40:07. What are the pain points?" I say: "I
  1002. 40:09don't know what the pain points are. We
  1003. 40:10decided here on something for
  1004. 40:11marketplaces. You come up with what the
  1005. 40:13pain points are." Uh, first pain point:
  1006. 40:15opaque, erroneous fines and
  1007. 40:17withholdings. Agreed. A huge problem. I
  1008. 40:20can totally see an aggregator of
  1009. 40:22lawyers coming next, who file
  1010. 40:24complaints to get refunds. And these
  1011. 40:28lawyers are actually starting to appear
  1012. 40:29little by little. It's really cool.
  1013. 40:32Commission growth in the summer of 2024
  1014. 40:35. Well, it probably doesn't know yet
  1015. 40:37that in the summer of 2025 everything
  1016. 40:39grew once more. Yeah. So nobody really
  1017. 40:41knows what to do. Next, poor cash flow
  1018. 40:43visibility, payment delays. Payment
  1019. 40:46delays, by the way, is also a very cool
  1020. 40:48story, which none of the sellers know
  1021. 40:50what to do about. And, well, equipment
  1022. 40:52is one thing. I like this prompt. Let
  1023. 40:55me say it now. I like this prompt. Go
  1024. 40:58ahead, using this prompt, generate 20
  1025. 41:01ideas for SaaS services for me, as I
  1026. 41:03initially asked. So, we need to start
  1027. 41:06thinking about which idea we'll take.
  1028. 41:08Which one did you like the most? I
  1029. 41:11think the point I wanted to get across
  1030. 41:13is that it basically doesn't matter
  1031. 41:15what we do, because we will assemble a
  1032. 41:17prototype faster than has ever been
  1033. 41:19possible, and we'll be able to verify
  1034. 41:21it with real sellers. You can then
  1035. 41:24throw it into some internal chats. So
  1036. 41:28that's why I think you should just
  1037. 41:30choose the one that resonates. What I
  1038. 41:33would do if I were you, I would just
  1039. 41:35make a post saying: "Hey guys, I have
  1040. 41:38four or five ideas, please vote." Why
  1041. 41:40do that? Let me explain. Because when
  1042. 41:43you ask a B2B audience, then if they
  1043. 41:45respond, if they vote for it, later
  1044. 41:47when your sales reps call and say: "
  1045. 41:51We're calling about the fines," they
  1046. 41:52will get through that barrier. Let's
  1047. 41:54just go ahead and do this now. Uh,
  1048. 41:56first of all, please leave a comment if
  1049. 41:59this topic resonates with you at all.
  1050. 42:03And if it does, Artyom and I will sit
  1051. 42:05down again and hash out how, before you
  1052. 42:08move on to expenses, programming, or
  1053. 42:10complex investments, you can actually
  1054. 42:12check if a topic will take off or not.
  1055. 42:16We'll sit down and share our ideas on
  1056. 42:18how we do it, how we verify these
  1057. 42:20things. Because today we're looking for
  1058. 42:23ideas and showing how to quickly
  1059. 42:25implement and prototype them, but how
  1060. 42:26do you test if there's real money in it
  1061. 42:28? So write in if you need this, and
  1062. 42:32we'll get together again and record it.
  1063. 42:34Anyway, here's the first one, the one I
  1064. 42:36really wanted to show. Automated audit
  1065. 42:39of fines. And I see the functionality
  1066. 42:42being very simple, very cheap to
  1067. 42:44develop. It will be a lawyer aggregator
  1068. 42:48. Lawyers who are already employed
  1069. 42:50somewhere, corporate types who want to
  1070. 42:52freelance, that's where the
  1071. 42:53self-employed angle comes in. It's a
  1072. 42:56platform solution for sellers plus
  1073. 42:58maybe some other products later on
  1074. 43:00where you can sell legal services. Uh,
  1075. 43:03there is a service in America called
  1076. 43:05Priori Legal. How did I find out about
  1077. 43:07it? When we entered the American market
  1078. 43:09with Retail Rocket, the first thing we
  1079. 43:11got after 2-3 weeks was a patent troll
  1080. 43:13who sent us a trademark infringement
  1081. 43:15letter, claiming illegal use of a
  1082. 43:17trademark. They asked us for a few
  1083. 43:19hundred thousand dollars. We were these
  1084. 43:21penniless startup guys, not knowing
  1085. 43:23what to do at all. We went to some
  1086. 43:24experienced mentors. The mentors said:
  1087. 43:26"Here is a lawyer for you." I show up
  1088. 43:28on a Zoom with this lawyer. There was
  1089. 43:30no Zoom back then, so on Skype with
  1090. 43:32this lawyer. Sitting there is a man
  1091. 43:35covered in gold, looking flashy, like
  1092. 43:37Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad, and he
  1093. 43:40says: "So, here's the deal, a $ 10,000
  1094. 43:42retainer." He says: "$ 10,000," well,
  1095. 43:46he was Russian but with an American
  1096. 43:49accent. A retainer is a non-refundable
  1097. 43:51deposit. Right. And only then will we
  1098. 43:53talk. And with this exact intonation he
  1099. 43:55says to me: "I've understood your
  1100. 43:56situation up to this point. Overall,
  1101. 43:57everything is clear to me." Well,
  1102. 43:59something like that. Basically, he
  1103. 44:00tells me: "Give me 10,000, and I won't
  1104. 44:02promise you anything. Whether something
  1105. 44:03comes of it or not, I don't know." For
  1106. 44:05me, 10,000 dollars was a huge amount of
  1107. 44:06money, and I didn't have it. So I poked
  1108. 44:08around my friends and found this
  1109. 44:09service called Priori Legal. What is
  1110. 44:11that? It's an aggregator for lawyers
  1111. 44:13that has a kind of office layer. You
  1112. 44:17write up your case, there's a form
  1113. 44:19where you check off your problem, and a
  1114. 44:21text box where you write down what
  1115. 44:22happened to you. And the office sorts
  1116. 44:26through it—there were no AI tools
  1117. 44:28back then. And it matches you with the
  1118. 44:30best lawyers for your specific case.
  1119. 44:32Uh-huh.
  1120. 44:32Freelance lawyers. Those freelance
  1121. 44:35lawyers each prepared a strategy to
  1122. 44:37resolve my case. Well, each one did.
  1123. 44:40They had hour-long calls with me and
  1124. 44:41explained how they would handle it. All
  1125. 44:43of that was free of charge. And then
  1126. 44:45they offered, like, "I charge 150 an
  1127. 44:47hour, I charge 200 an hour, I charge
  1128. 44:50300.""Whichever of the three you liked
  1129. 44:52best, just choose them and go work with
  1130. 44:54them." And I was just blown away. I
  1131. 44:57mean, by how quickly I received three
  1132. 44:59legal opinions,
  1133. 45:00with ready-made strategies right away.
  1134. 45:02Technically, I could have gone and
  1135. 45:03implemented them without them. But,
  1136. 45:05yeah, it was pretty cool. So,
  1137. 45:06Commitracker recognizes the tariff and
  1138. 45:08margin. That's about analytics and ad
  1139. 45:10autopilot. Listen, let's stop right
  1140. 45:12here.
  1141. 45:12It doesn't matter what the idea is,
  1142. 45:14because the most important thing is
  1143. 45:16that we can test 20 to 30 of them a
  1144. 45:17month,
  1145. 45:18right? But I'm saying that what's
  1146. 45:19important right now is that we need to
  1147. 45:21lock this in. We've got 5 to 10 really
  1148. 45:23strong hypotheses here that, looking at
  1149. 45:26them, I'm like, "Damn, this is great."
  1150. 45:28FOMO, FOMO,
  1151. 45:30honestly, maybe a little bit, maybe,
  1152. 45:33maybe I should do it myself, maybe not
  1153. 45:35release it to a third party, yeah,
  1154. 45:37maybe not release this podcast episode
  1155. 45:40and launch something myself, but
  1156. 45:41we’ve started, and for me, this is a
  1157. 45:44"wow." We’ve already come up with
  1158. 45:46something really cool. That's it,
  1159. 45:47we’re taking this one.
  1160. 45:49This is where the magic happens. We
  1161. 45:51just have an idea. And now we need to
  1162. 45:53figure out the business model. Possibly
  1163. 45:55, in which segment, with what
  1164. 45:57monetization. There are different paths
  1165. 45:58to take. We could attach ChatGPT so it
  1166. 46:01generates the answers. We could create,
  1167. 46:04I don't know, some kind of community.
  1168. 46:07You could build a lawyer aggregator,
  1169. 46:09there are many different ideas. Which
  1170. 46:11one is best? And this is where I wanted
  1171. 46:13to show you another part of the work,
  1172. 46:15where we take an idea and flesh it out.
  1173. 46:17Let’s do it.
  1174. 46:18And what we need to do at this point—
  1175. 46:20in real life, you have this idea, what
  1176. 46:22would you do next? I would reach the
  1177. 46:26target audience as quickly as possible.
  1178. 46:29I’d go to some seller conference.
  1179. 46:33I’d join some seller chat group that
  1180. 46:35regularly meets up for a small fee at a
  1181. 46:37hookah bar. Uh, what else? Well, I’d
  1182. 46:43go to a seller training course, because
  1183. 46:45there’s a seller community there.
  1184. 46:48I’d start searching my professional
  1185. 46:50network for those who sell on
  1186. 46:51marketplaces. I’d get to the people
  1187. 46:55who are doing this hands-on as fast as
  1188. 46:56I could. And my task would be to
  1189. 47:00validate the pain, to see if they
  1190. 47:02actually have that problem. How would I
  1191. 47:05do that? I have a cheat, I have this
  1192. 47:08one question.
  1193. 47:09Uh-huh.
  1194. 47:09It goes like this: "Please rate from
  1195. 47:11one to ten, how likely are you to pay
  1196. 47:13to have this problem solved?" I’m not
  1197. 47:15saying how I’ll solve it; I’m
  1198. 47:16saying it will definitely be solved. It
  1199. 47:18will definitely be profitable for you,
  1200. 47:20it will definitely be convenient for
  1201. 47:22you. I will fix it, because if your
  1202. 47:23shoes are too tight or you have a
  1203. 47:25toothache, you’ll say: "Yes, please,
  1204. 47:27fix this."
  1205. 47:28So, let's take that question about
  1206. 47:30rating—if you are a seller, rate from
  1207. 47:32one to ten the probability that you’d
  1208. 47:34pay for this idea—send them 20 ideas
  1209. 47:37and see which ideas...
  1210. 47:39What 20 ideas to send? You have 20
  1211. 47:41ideas, we need to understand which ones
  1212. 47:43are cool. This question can be asked.
  1213. 47:45We have several sets of 20 ideas, right
  1214. 47:47?
  1215. 47:47For any of them. I think we can try to
  1216. 47:49find out which of the ideas is cool.
  1217. 47:50Well, here are, in fact, the next steps
  1218. 47:53that ChatGPT already suggested itself.
  1219. 47:55Next steps. It suggests interviewing 25
  1220. 47:57sellers at conferences and in chats to
  1221. 48:00validate three pains from the list
  1222. 48:02above. That's the main thing. And then
  1223. 48:04take an MVP sprint, choose the idea
  1224. 48:06with the highest buyability and ease of
  1225. 48:09implementation. Uh, and it also
  1226. 48:12suggested making a Telegram channel
  1227. 48:14where you publicly describe how
  1228. 48:15you’re building this thing, and
  1229. 48:17collect a waitlist of people who want
  1230. 48:19it. I already did that.
  1231. 48:21Yes. Next, uh, anyway, there is
  1232. 48:23literally, damn, it looks like we don't
  1233. 48:26need to film the next episode. I just
  1234. 48:28need to show you what’s on my screen
  1235. 48:29right now. 20 to 50 pilot sellers with
  1236. 48:32a nominal price. Next is unit economics
  1237. 48:36. This might be unclear, what "less
  1238. 48:39than 3pu" and "churn less than 5%" mean
  1239. 48:43. But this is absolutely key. That is
  1240. 48:47the whole point of what we are doing
  1241. 48:48right now. Please, well, look into this
  1242. 48:51or write it down. Again, we will still
  1243. 48:53make a separate episode. That’s it,
  1244. 48:56what metrics are needed for a seed
  1245. 48:58investment round. Preparing for the
  1246. 49:01round, what is written here, right
  1247. 49:03before my eyes now, if someone had
  1248. 49:05written this to me,
  1249. 49:07and said: "Davy,
  1250. 49:08when I was creating Retail Rocket, I
  1251. 49:10would be significantly more successful
  1252. 49:12and richer now." If someone had
  1253. 49:14explained to me exactly what I needed
  1254. 49:16to do with all these confusing
  1255. 49:18abbreviations. This is incredibly
  1256. 49:20important. Okay, well, fine. So, uh,
  1257. 49:22I’m dictating a prompt here right now
  1258. 49:25. Imagine you are a large focus group
  1259. 49:28of marketplace sellers, representing
  1260. 49:31100 people. Conduct all the interviews,
  1261. 49:38describe the pain points for these 100
  1262. 49:40people and survey each of them, asking
  1263. 49:42the question: "On a scale of one to ten
  1264. 49:44, how likely is each of them to pay for
  1265. 49:46the solution to the problem you came up
  1266. 49:49with?" and, uh, provide a list, uh, of
  1267. 49:56these solutions, ideas for startups,
  1268. 49:59sorted by the intensity of the pain
  1269. 50:01discovered among the sellers. But this
  1270. 50:05is a total game-changer, what’s going
  1271. 50:07to happen now. I’ve done this a
  1272. 50:10couple of times with hypotheses, when
  1273. 50:12you assign it a role not as a single
  1274. 50:14expert, you know, counterintuitive,
  1275. 50:16multicultural, but when you tell it you
  1276. 50:18are 100 people, you are a focus group.
  1277. 50:22Okay, I’ll push this into all, uh,
  1278. 50:24all channels now, into all three ideas,
  1279. 50:27all three idea-hunting streams. Let’s
  1280. 50:30see what we get, what’s happening
  1281. 50:32with you. What’s happening is that
  1282. 50:34I’m challenging this idea and filling
  1283. 50:36it with different options. We’ll look
  1284. 50:37at it now, because A
  1285. 50:39scroll up, I’ll comment on it. What
  1286. 50:40requests did you make, what did you
  1287. 50:42actually do?
  1288. 50:43Yes, what are we doing? We are putting
  1289. 50:45it back into a role, the role of a
  1290. 50:47product manager,
  1291. 50:47right?
  1292. 50:48Ah, and this is quite a large prompt.
  1293. 50:50We will post it as well. There
  1294. 50:52wow. That was a mile long for you.
  1295. 50:54Of course, I try to make large, good
  1296. 50:56instructions, because that’s what
  1297. 50:58makes new models good: they know how to
  1298. 51:00follow instructions. And at this point,
  1299. 51:02I’m basically telling you that as
  1300. 51:04Kolya Khlebinsky, try to figure out
  1301. 51:06what different audiences exist,
  1302. 51:08Uh-huh.
  1303. 51:09that might find this interesting.
  1304. 51:10Meaning, figure out what problems we
  1305. 51:13are solving.
  1306. 51:13Second, what this product approach is,
  1307. 51:16when a smart product manager comes to
  1308. 51:18you and says, "Okay, but what' jobs to
  1309. 51:20be done 'are we solving here?" And you
  1310. 51:22say, "No, I just want to make some
  1311. 51:24money." So, accordingly, we ask it to
  1312. 51:26play this smart product manager and say
  1313. 51:28: "What roles are there, what consumers
  1314. 51:30exist for this service, and what tasks
  1315. 51:32do they want to solve?""A task" is
  1316. 51:34actually what is usually written as the
  1317. 51:36basis of an instruction, like, "I need
  1318. 51:38to appeal fines quickly, within a week.
  1319. 51:40"
  1320. 51:41There. Next, an important question
  1321. 51:43arises: how do we position this product
  1322. 51:45? Is it as a debt collector, as an
  1323. 51:47automation tool, or as a service that
  1324. 51:49finds a good lawyer? We don't know. We
  1325. 51:52want to sort that out. What will even
  1326. 51:55go into our MVP? It could be some big
  1327. 51:57platform, a small app, or a Telegram
  1328. 51:59bot; we don't know what features should
  1329. 52:01be inside, what the business model is,
  1330. 52:03or what the revenue could be at all.
  1331. 52:05These are all the questions that you
  1332. 52:06and I understand perfectly, and we will
  1333. 52:08actually pass this knowledge on to the
  1334. 52:10viewers. This is vast entrepreneurial
  1335. 52:12knowledge that we have been gathering
  1336. 52:14for years. When I asked you what you
  1337. 52:16would do, there’s another path where
  1338. 52:18you call up an entrepreneur and say, "
  1339. 52:20Listen, I have an idea, let's discuss
  1340. 52:22it." And they sit down with you and
  1341. 52:25start solving it on a napkin.
  1342. 52:27I'll show you what I came up with while
  1343. 52:28your processing is running. We imagined
  1344. 52:33a focus group, described the pain
  1345. 52:35points, and this service here, "
  1346. 52:37Inventory Sinker," won.
  1347. 52:41Uh-huh.
  1348. 52:41So, I think this was about procurement,
  1349. 52:44right? Uh, inventory synchronization.
  1350. 52:47In short, this was our problem with...
  1351. 52:49Let's find where it is. What service
  1352. 52:53won here? Inventory Sinker, manual
  1353. 52:55inventory management. Overselling, lost
  1354. 52:58deals, dead stock. Centralized
  1355. 53:00inventory management. Real-time
  1356. 53:03cancellations and shipments. Yeah, this
  1357. 53:05is about the warehouse. So, in your
  1358. 53:07prompt, the warehouse won. Uh, in the
  1359. 53:10prompt I suggested, there's a different
  1360. 53:13model here. That was O4 Lite, this is
  1361. 53:15O3.
  1362. 53:16Uh-huh. Uh, the reasoning went
  1363. 53:18differently here, so you need to use
  1364. 53:20different requests for the same stories
  1365. 53:22. Uh, here’s the category: uh, we had
  1366. 53:2615 large sellers, 40 micro, 45
  1367. 53:28mid-sized in the growth stage. Cashflow
  1368. 53:32shield. Uh, every day without cash,
  1369. 53:34sales come to a halt. Instant payouts.
  1370. 53:37This is apparently, uh, some kind of
  1371. 53:39factoring, something related to fintech
  1372. 53:41.
  1373. 53:41Loans, yes, secured by
  1374. 53:43loans secured by sales already made.
  1375. 53:46completed sales for which the money
  1376. 53:47hasn’t arrived yet.
  1377. 53:49I mean, we have reports that can be
  1378. 53:51pulled via API from the Ozon or WB
  1379. 53:53accounts regarding what was sold. We
  1380. 53:55have redemption rates, we can forecast
  1381. 53:57how much money will come and when, but
  1382. 53:59the seller is actually waiting weeks
  1383. 54:01for this money.
  1384. 54:01And don't the zones provide this, or do
  1385. 54:03they offer it at a high interest rate?
  1386. 54:05To be honest, I don't know. I know that
  1387. 54:07Ozon and Beris regularly change the
  1388. 54:09rules of the game. Like, they said, for
  1389. 54:11instance, we can do it once a week, now
  1390. 54:14we do it once a month. And now we do it
  1391. 54:17—and naturally, it says in the offer
  1392. 54:20that they can delay it by 5 days past
  1393. 54:22the deadline, and in reality, it turns
  1394. 54:25into 10 or 15. And every couple of
  1395. 54:30months, WB almost deliberately picks a
  1396. 54:32cluster to delay payments to. They
  1397. 54:35reimburse everything the following week
  1398. 54:36, but I feel like they really play
  1399. 54:38around with the money there. Yeah. Well
  1400. 54:40, anyway, a fintech project won, which
  1401. 54:42finances sellers against the guarantee
  1402. 54:44of payouts from marketplaces that
  1403. 54:46haven't happened yet. So, what else do
  1404. 54:49we have here? Fines. Fines, billing
  1405. 54:51errors, yes, just as I assumed, that
  1406. 54:53also seems like a very cool story to me
  1407. 54:56. Any seller, well, at least those I've
  1408. 54:58spoken with, is willing to outsource
  1409. 55:01their entire document flow with WB,
  1410. 55:03lawsuits, pre-trial claims, or whatever
  1411. 55:05, for a percentage of the fine—like
  1412. 55:0810-20-30%of the recouped fine—because
  1413. 55:10nobody wants to deal with it. Nobody
  1414. 55:12has their own lawyer or a decent
  1415. 55:14litigator. These are all very cool
  1416. 55:17stories, and they are sorted and ready
  1417. 55:19for implementation.
  1418. 55:20Let me show you what we have now.
  1419. 55:22Go ahead. Actually, I think we're done
  1420. 55:24with the ideas, because these primary
  1421. 55:26hypotheses were generated brilliantly.
  1422. 55:28Let’s move on. What was happening
  1423. 55:29here? Just tell me the structure of the
  1424. 55:31content of this prompt. What’s in it?
  1425. 55:34You could invite a really top-tier
  1426. 55:36product manager from T-Bank or, I don't
  1427. 55:38know, Avito, some really smart folks,
  1428. 55:40and they would break it all down in
  1429. 55:42detail and conduct research over three
  1430. 55:44or four months.
  1431. 55:45But
  1432. 55:46in reality, all of this was done in a
  1433. 55:48couple of minutes. So what did we do?
  1434. 55:50We identified the main personas. Pro
  1435. 55:52seller, and a mid-tier seller.
  1436. 55:54Did you identify this, or did the AI do
  1437. 55:56it? The AI did it. So you asked it to
  1438. 55:57do that right away. I told you: "
  1439. 55:59Identify the personas." Yes, that was
  1440. 56:00your task. As a cool product manager,
  1441. 56:02identify the personas, because there
  1442. 56:03are different personas. So it
  1443. 56:05identified the pro sellers,
  1444. 56:06they have certain pain points, yes,
  1445. 56:08there are small sellers, they have
  1446. 56:09different pain points, and there are
  1447. 56:11outsource agencies that manage many
  1448. 56:13sellers.
  1449. 56:13So, what else needs to be understood
  1450. 56:15here is that both Artyom and I have a
  1451. 56:17great deal of experience in product
  1452. 56:19management. Yes,
  1453. 56:21in product development. That's why the
  1454. 56:23concept of a "persona" is built into us
  1455. 56:25. When you see a checkmark, we were
  1456. 56:28thinking about what our key target
  1457. 56:30audience segments are, what their use
  1458. 56:32cases for our product are, what their
  1459. 56:34problems are, how they solve them, and
  1460. 56:37what characterizes these personas.
  1461. 56:39Those of you watching us now, well,
  1462. 56:41maybe you haven't spent 15 years
  1463. 56:43developing complex information systems.
  1464. 56:46Maybe some, anyway, we'll just share
  1465. 56:48the link to this dialogue as well. You
  1466. 56:51can read it, if something is in English
  1467. 56:53. You can tell ChatGPT to translate it
  1468. 56:55if some term is unclear. You can copy
  1469. 56:58it and say: "Explain.""I don't
  1470. 56:59understand what this means." But
  1471. 57:02overall, this is research work that
  1472. 57:04precedes writing code or investing in a
  1473. 57:07product so that we can guarantee a
  1474. 57:08return on investment. It's worth noting
  1475. 57:13here that it's a huge mistake not to do
  1476. 57:15this when launching a startup. Because
  1477. 57:17it happens like this: we come up with
  1478. 57:19an idea, it pops into our head, it
  1479. 57:21clicks, and that's it—we're wearing
  1480. 57:22rose-colored glasses through which we
  1481. 57:24look at the world, and no one can
  1482. 57:26convince us that it's complete garbage.
  1483. 57:29Except for the market, to which we
  1484. 57:31bring a solution developed over several
  1485. 57:33years, which turns out to be useless to
  1486. 57:35everyone and for which nobody pays
  1487. 57:37later. And we invested millions into it
  1488. 57:40, either our own or our investors'. And
  1489. 57:43since Artyom and I—I certainly have,
  1490. 57:45and I suspect he has too—have built
  1491. 57:48so many wonderful features that turned
  1492. 57:50out to be completely useless. We burned
  1493. 57:53so much money that we live by these
  1494. 57:55practices to avoid wasting the most
  1495. 57:57important thing. You have to remember
  1496. 58:00that the scarcest resource in the IT
  1497. 58:02business is developer resources,
  1498. 58:04programmer hours. To avoid wasting them
  1499. 58:06on nonsense and useless junk, all these
  1500. 58:09studies are done. And this used to take
  1501. 58:12months, but now it takes seconds.
  1502. 58:15Yes. And I was talking with guys from
  1503. 58:18one of the largest investment banks.
  1504. 58:21They said they give test assignments
  1505. 58:23for junior positions, where candidates
  1506. 58:25need to research the airline market and
  1507. 58:27solve a case study. They say that
  1508. 58:31modern neural networks solve these
  1509. 58:32cases better than university graduates.
  1510. 58:36And for now, they are using them.
  1511. 58:38Okay. So, good.
  1512. 58:39So, what do we see here? We are
  1513. 58:41starting to outline and detail our
  1514. 58:43sketch
  1515. 58:44Uh-huh.
  1516. 58:45into a very clear system, right? So,
  1517. 58:48what does our product look like? It's a
  1518. 58:51one-click, one-click appeal, uh, and it
  1519. 58:57has built-in tariff reconciliation, and
  1520. 58:59it includes some form of pricing.
  1521. 59:03Notice that the system immediately
  1522. 59:05compared it with some competitors.
  1523. 59:08Maybe these data points aren't accurate
  1524. 59:10, and I apologize to the guys if the
  1525. 59:12data is incorrect, though. But
  1526. 59:14regardless, it presented competitors
  1527. 59:16and analogues we could work with in
  1528. 59:18this way, highlighting Excel as the
  1529. 59:20primary one. Next, the next part is the
  1530. 59:23product roadmap.
  1531. 59:24Uh-huh.
  1532. 59:25Here we see the engineer's hours. We
  1533. 59:27move on to the business model options.
  1534. 59:30It could be a percentage of the refund,
  1535. 59:33a fixed fee, a connection fee for the
  1536. 59:35system, or a hybrid model where you
  1537. 59:37provide the service for 10,000 rubles.
  1538. 59:40And additionally, you get a percentage
  1539. 59:42of the recovered penalties.
  1540. 59:44By the way, I just said that sellers
  1541. 59:46are ready to pay 20%of recovered
  1542. 59:48penalties without any issues. And that
  1543. 59:50is the primary business model. I also
  1544. 59:53see that the target customer
  1545. 59:54acquisition cost is calculated here at
  1546. 59:576,000 rubles. And the lifetime, that is
  1547. 1:00:00the customer lifetime, is 12 months.
  1548. 1:00:03And how much money do we plan to
  1549. 1:00:05receive? The only thing I don't like is
  1550. 1:00:08the 15-day payback. That I don't like,
  1551. 1:00:13because on the right, the payback is
  1552. 1:00:150.5 months. I think that's wrong.
  1553. 1:00:19Although
  1554. 1:00:19it suggests starting with a test. For a
  1555. 1:00:21te-No, for a test, that's very cool,
  1556. 1:00:23isn't it? So it says that
  1557. 1:00:24for scaling, it's bad,
  1558. 1:00:26right? Publish information about the
  1559. 1:00:28service on the WB Insights channel. It
  1560. 1:00:30suggests what the price should be there
  1561. 1:00:32and how many leads you'll attract. With
  1562. 1:00:33a 12%conversion rate. That seems
  1563. 1:00:35plausible.
  1564. 1:00:36Yes, yes, yes. It's a ready-made first
  1565. 1:00:38step for marketing right here.
  1566. 1:00:40Honestly, I'm launching an IT startup
  1567. 1:00:42in Chartrack, a SaaS, myself right now.
  1568. 1:00:45Uh, I was doing all of this too. But my
  1569. 1:00:47approach isn't like Artyom's. I see
  1570. 1:00:49what I'll be doing with my startup
  1571. 1:00:51tonight after recording this podcast
  1572. 1:00:53because this is cool,
  1573. 1:00:55yes, the go-to-market strategy is
  1574. 1:00:57already written out. And this is the
  1575. 1:00:58thing you can take and start working
  1576. 1:01:00with immediately. So, we just had an
  1577. 1:01:02idea that we didn't quite know how to
  1578. 1:01:04approach. That is the biggest challenge
  1579. 1:01:06of all. You sit there thinking: "What
  1580. 1:01:08if it doesn't work out?""And so on."
  1581. 1:01:10But it could actually work, right? I
  1582. 1:01:12mean, we know there's a 10-15%chance of
  1583. 1:01:14success. That's perfectly fine; we can
  1584. 1:01:16proceed down this path. And we both
  1585. 1:01:18understand that this is a reasonable
  1586. 1:01:20price and a solid model. There. And
  1587. 1:01:22what we can do next. Look, here is
  1588. 1:01:24what’s missing. All of this is still
  1589. 1:01:26just internet archives. All of this is
  1590. 1:01:28just some brother's advice. And we both
  1591. 1:01:32know that, uh, there's nothing more
  1592. 1:01:34daunting, and yet more useful, than
  1593. 1:01:36advice from some expert.
  1594. 1:01:38Oh, by the way, it’s here,
  1595. 1:01:40yes,
  1596. 1:01:41uh, in this roadmap for hitting revenue
  1597. 1:01:44. A 6-month horizon, 6 months to
  1598. 1:01:47revenue, 3-4 million rubles. And it's
  1599. 1:01:49explicitly stated right here. Okay.
  1600. 1:01:51Yes,
  1601. 1:01:52in 6 months he plans to reach it. Right
  1602. 1:01:54, okay, I interrupted you. Continue
  1603. 1:01:56your thought.
  1604. 1:01:57Yes, the important thing here is, and
  1605. 1:02:01you know there are these experts who
  1606. 1:02:03say: "Nothing will work for you, that
  1607. 1:02:05doesn't work." I came to you once,
  1608. 1:02:07asking: "What’s the maximum I can
  1609. 1:02:09make in my service?""You gave me an
  1610. 1:02:11estimate three times higher than what I
  1611. 1:02:13had projected." Well, time passed, and
  1612. 1:02:14we made four times more than you
  1613. 1:02:16predicted, and 12 times more than I had
  1614. 1:02:18predicted.
  1615. 1:02:19Listen, here is how I view that.
  1616. 1:02:21I had a situation once when I was
  1617. 1:02:22launching Rocket, when we were at the
  1618. 1:02:24very beginning. I approached a very
  1619. 1:02:26prominent industry expert, someone we
  1620. 1:02:28have both known for years. I explained
  1621. 1:02:30the idea to him. I told him we were
  1622. 1:02:32building this specific thing. He tells
  1623. 1:02:33me: "Listen, nothing is going to work
  1624. 1:02:35out for you." And I started arguing
  1625. 1:02:36back with foam at the mouth. "No, look,
  1626. 1:02:38I did it this way, and that way." Right
  1627. 1:02:40. And he says: "Actually, that was a
  1628. 1:02:42test.""If you had just given up
  1629. 1:02:43immediately and said, 'Oh well, never
  1630. 1:02:45mind.'""And walked away, then you
  1631. 1:02:46definitely wouldn't have succeeded.""
  1632. 1:02:47But if you're ready to defend your
  1633. 1:02:49position with such energy after being
  1634. 1:02:50told you’ll fail, then go ahead and
  1635. 1:02:52do it, because nobody knows if you'll
  1636. 1:02:54succeed or not."
  1637. 1:02:54Nobody knows. Nobody knows. There. But
  1638. 1:02:58pay attention to the fact that, uh,
  1639. 1:03:00there are always these little hooks you
  1640. 1:03:02give yourself,
  1641. 1:03:04yes,
  1642. 1:03:05like certain conditions under which
  1643. 1:03:06this can be done,
  1644. 1:03:07yeah. Like, I don't know, could Ufa win
  1645. 1:03:11the Russian championship next year?
  1646. 1:03:13Maybe, if they, I don't know, bolster
  1647. 1:03:15the team with five strikers, if their
  1648. 1:03:17training process changes, and so on.
  1649. 1:03:20Some, like the movie Everything
  1650. 1:03:21Everywhere All at Once, if you haven't
  1651. 1:03:23seen it, watch it. It’s practically a
  1652. 1:03:24documentary, everything is described
  1653. 1:03:26there.
  1654. 1:03:26There. And here, everything is
  1655. 1:03:28described as well. Will we be able to
  1656. 1:03:29consistently recover 60%of fines or not
  1657. 1:03:31without manual verification? If that's
  1658. 1:03:33required, then our service won't be as
  1659. 1:03:35good.
  1660. 1:03:35All of this is described. And now we
  1661. 1:03:38move on to another tool, because what
  1662. 1:03:40we just did is expert knowledge. But we
  1663. 1:03:42need to get knowledge from the internet
  1664. 1:03:44, preferably all of it. Because if
  1665. 1:03:47sellers have an open vacancy for a
  1666. 1:03:49lawyer,
  1667. 1:03:51some discussions in open chats,
  1668. 1:03:53yes, and forum threads, an article on
  1669. 1:03:55VC, and so on—all this evidence of
  1670. 1:03:57how it's structured, we need to gather
  1671. 1:04:00it all. Ideally, if you and I have come
  1672. 1:04:03up with something, if we got fired up
  1673. 1:04:05about this idea,
  1674. 1:04:07Uh-huh.
  1675. 1:04:07you need to spend another week so that
  1676. 1:04:09you can approach it later with a cool
  1677. 1:04:11head. Not to jump into business
  1678. 1:04:12hot-headed, but with a cool head, spend
  1679. 1:04:14the time, yes, set it aside, spend the
  1680. 1:04:16time
  1681. 1:04:17to study it. To be honest, regarding
  1682. 1:04:18the projects I have in development
  1683. 1:04:20right now, I’m already itching to run
  1684. 1:04:22off and do it, rather than wait a week.
  1685. 1:04:24I don’t understand how to do that
  1686. 1:04:25right now.
  1687. 1:04:25So, there is a main tool, and it is
  1688. 1:04:27available in the free version. It is
  1689. 1:04:29the DeepSearch tool. We are now going
  1690. 1:04:31to, unfortunately, just for 5 minutes,
  1691. 1:04:33launch a big, big research project. Uh,
  1692. 1:04:36I'll send this prompt again, and we
  1693. 1:04:38will, uh, launch DeepSearch, we’ll
  1694. 1:04:40launch a deep search across the entire
  1695. 1:04:43internet to find all the information on
  1696. 1:04:45this topic. We’ll literally dive into
  1697. 1:04:47every nook and cranny. I’ll do that
  1698. 1:04:50right here, right now.
  1699. 1:04:51Well, are you ready to share all of
  1700. 1:04:53this? Uh,
  1701. 1:04:54there's nothing wrong with that. Anyone
  1702. 1:04:55can do all of this.
  1703. 1:04:56Friends, hello. So, how did you like
  1704. 1:04:58this episode? I just rewatched it
  1705. 1:05:00before publishing. We’re making final
  1706. 1:05:02edits. Man, it’s just mind-blowing. I
  1707. 1:05:06will post all the prompts, all the
  1708. 1:05:08requests to the neural networks that we
  1709. 1:05:10used, in one file on my Telegram
  1710. 1:05:12channel as soon as the video reaches
  1711. 1:05:14either 3,000 comments or 3,000 likes.
  1712. 1:05:19So, if you need these materials, please
  1713. 1:05:21hit the like button, leave a meaningful
  1714. 1:05:24comment, and below this video, there is
  1715. 1:05:26a link to my Telegram channel.
  1716. 1:05:29Subscribe, all materials will be there.
  1717. 1:05:31Alright, let's continue watching.
  1718. 1:05:34It asks: "Are you sure you want to
  1719. 1:05:36verify this problem?" Yes, that's it.
  1720. 1:05:39It clarifies: "Which competitors should
  1721. 1:05:41I include?" Decide for yourself. And
  1722. 1:05:44the preferred language is, of course,
  1723. 1:05:47Russian. Oh, look for more. Although we
  1724. 1:05:54could look at the international market.
  1725. 1:05:55And so the research begins; it will
  1726. 1:05:57take some time now.
  1727. 1:05:59Uh-huh. Good. I'll show you a use case
  1728. 1:06:02that became a turning point for me. My
  1729. 1:06:05world was turned upside down, and I
  1730. 1:06:07realized that the world has changed. It
  1731. 1:06:09will never be the same again. When I
  1732. 1:06:12made this request, well, I'm subscribed
  1733. 1:06:15to an aviation page. I am into civil
  1734. 1:06:18aviation. I'm interested in everything
  1735. 1:06:20related to planes, how they work, and
  1736. 1:06:22airports. And there was a poll there.
  1737. 1:06:25Just from this photo, write what kind
  1738. 1:06:27of airport this is. To figure out what
  1739. 1:06:32To figure out what airport this is from
  1740. 1:06:34a photo is impossible. I searched
  1741. 1:06:37Google, looked through several dozen,
  1742. 1:06:39maybe 40 thousand airports in the world
  1743. 1:06:41.
  1744. 1:06:42All over the world.
  1745. 1:06:43It is impossible to tell what airport
  1746. 1:06:45this is. And basically, tell me which
  1747. 1:06:47airport is in this photo. So, I am told
  1748. 1:06:50that it is Gatwick Airport. I go check,
  1749. 1:06:54yeah, it took 49 seconds. Uh-huh.
  1750. 1:06:58I go to Google Maps and see that it
  1751. 1:07:00also seems to have two runways, but
  1752. 1:07:02those two runways are parallel to each
  1753. 1:07:04other. Here you can see that this
  1754. 1:07:08runway starts further away, and this
  1755. 1:07:10one starts later. But at Gatwick, the
  1756. 1:07:12two are right next to each other, their
  1757. 1:07:14start and end points are practically
  1758. 1:07:15identical.
  1759. 1:07:16And so I tell it: "This is incorrect.
  1760. 1:07:18At Gatwick Airport, both runways have
  1761. 1:07:20the same start and practically the same
  1762. 1:07:22end." In the photo, you can see that
  1763. 1:07:23the start and end are offset relative
  1764. 1:07:24to each other. Think again. It
  1765. 1:07:28immediately finds the correct airport.
  1766. 1:07:31How did it happen from such an angle?
  1767. 1:07:33Here you and I,
  1768. 1:07:36people who deal with data analysis and
  1769. 1:07:39data monetization, would have had to
  1770. 1:07:41input entities like runway start,
  1771. 1:07:43runway end, runway parallelism, as
  1772. 1:07:46factors, forests, houses. How can this
  1773. 1:07:50even be analyzed? Because it was
  1774. 1:07:52looking at satellite images, probably
  1775. 1:07:53from above. And creating this with
  1776. 1:07:57previous-generation approaches was...
  1777. 1:08:00And when I saw that it happened in 2
  1778. 1:08:02minutes by a machine with a very
  1779. 1:08:04abstract request and very abstract
  1780. 1:08:06input data, it just blew my mind. That
  1781. 1:08:08was the moment I realized that
  1782. 1:08:10everything, the world would never be
  1783. 1:08:11the same again. A very non-obvious use
  1784. 1:08:13case. It probably won't be useful for
  1785. 1:08:16many people in life, for those watching
  1786. 1:08:18us, but the level of complexity of the
  1787. 1:08:20technologies that can do this is just,
  1788. 1:08:22well, off the charts. How far have we
  1789. 1:08:24come?
  1790. 1:08:25You can send a photo, I don't know, of
  1791. 1:08:27a person who took a picture somewhere
  1792. 1:08:29for an avatar and ask where the photo
  1793. 1:08:31was taken. And you can figure out where
  1794. 1:08:34they live. Streamers who play these
  1795. 1:08:35games, when a photo is shown to them
  1796. 1:08:37for 3 seconds, they mark on the map
  1797. 1:08:39where it is taking place. There. Yes.
  1798. 1:08:41That's it,
  1799. 1:08:42yes,
  1800. 1:08:42that is already a product there. With
  1801. 1:08:44what you are doing now, what will be
  1802. 1:08:46the end result of it? I mean, that
  1803. 1:08:48product research has been conducted,
  1804. 1:08:50the work of a product owner, product
  1805. 1:08:52director, product manager has been done
  1806. 1:08:54—the person who is responsible for
  1807. 1:08:56ensuring that the software code written
  1808. 1:08:59with developers brings value to someone
  1809. 1:09:01, is in demand, and is needed. I see
  1810. 1:09:03that something grandiose is being done
  1811. 1:09:05there.
  1812. 1:09:05What are we going to do now? We will
  1813. 1:09:07look into all, all, all, all the
  1814. 1:09:09details, into all the most detailed
  1815. 1:09:12corners of the internet. We will
  1816. 1:09:14collect all information about
  1817. 1:09:16Wildberries fines, we will get into
  1818. 1:09:17Wildberries itself, we will get into
  1819. 1:09:19negative reviews on Yandex Market, and
  1820. 1:09:21somewhere else. From this, we will
  1821. 1:09:23structure it more and challenge our
  1822. 1:09:25idea. From it, we will assemble not
  1823. 1:09:27some hallucination from a neural
  1824. 1:09:29network, not some fragmentary data of
  1825. 1:09:31ours, but a complete snapshot of what
  1826. 1:09:33is happening in the world according to
  1827. 1:09:35this data. And we will already have a
  1828. 1:09:37completely ready-made guide with market
  1829. 1:09:39research. I mean, what we are doing now
  1830. 1:09:41, we are doing a full-fledged, most
  1831. 1:09:43detailed market research, which,
  1832. 1:09:45honestly, why didn't entrepreneurs do
  1833. 1:09:47it before? Because it is expensive. But
  1834. 1:09:49in reality, when some P&G launches a
  1835. 1:09:51new product or someone launches a new
  1836. 1:09:53type of chocolate, they actually take
  1837. 1:09:55and survey a thousand people: "what do
  1838. 1:09:57you need?""how is it structured?"—
  1839. 1:09:59then they say: "In St. Petersburg, they
  1840. 1:10:00like these kinds of chocolates, in
  1841. 1:10:02Yekaterinburg, they like these kinds of
  1842. 1:10:03chocolates, and so on." There. And we
  1843. 1:10:05really should conduct this research. So
  1844. 1:10:07, what you said, that you will do, you
  1845. 1:10:08will go to a conference, you will be
  1846. 1:10:09collecting all this information. And
  1847. 1:10:11that is what we are doing now. This is
  1848. 1:10:12a big, big prompt.
  1849. 1:10:14We are trying to understand the market
  1850. 1:10:16size, we will try to understand some
  1851. 1:10:18main competitors, what they have, how
  1852. 1:10:20they use it, we will pull out pieces of
  1853. 1:10:22information from the internet, all the
  1854. 1:10:24reviews, and so on. We will collect
  1855. 1:10:26everything now. And then we will have
  1856. 1:10:28full coverage of the pain points. We
  1857. 1:10:29need to understand that despite there
  1858. 1:10:30being competitors—and there certainly
  1859. 1:10:32are—how can we differentiate from
  1860. 1:10:33them? What should the product be to
  1861. 1:10:35successfully break into the market?
  1862. 1:10:36That is the most important thing. If a
  1863. 1:10:38market exists, that’s great. See, he
  1864. 1:10:40is currently studying a competitor's
  1865. 1:10:41website.
  1866. 1:10:42Studying the AUDB website.
  1867. 1:10:43auditv.ru, which, as I understand, does
  1868. 1:10:46the same thing,
  1869. 1:10:47yes,
  1870. 1:10:48what hypothesis have we chosen now?
  1871. 1:10:50What positioning should we create to
  1872. 1:10:51break into the market and stand out?
  1873. 1:10:53And after this, what we are doing with
  1874. 1:10:55you now, once we get all this
  1875. 1:10:56information and facts, we will ask
  1876. 1:10:58ChatGPT to write a complete guide for
  1877. 1:11:00the developers, and we will launch it.
  1878. 1:11:02So, we are literally 5-10 minutes away
  1879. 1:11:04from having a product. Awesome. We just
  1880. 1:11:06need to understand.
  1881. 1:11:07Should we launch it as a low-code
  1882. 1:11:08solution, or
  1883. 1:11:09will we include it in a low-code build?
  1884. 1:11:10Yes, a low-code build. Using Cursor
  1885. 1:11:12will take a bit longer. It will be
  1886. 1:11:14higher quality, but it will take longer
  1887. 1:11:16. Well, basically, to launch, create a
  1888. 1:11:18landing page, and start a prototype of
  1889. 1:11:20the product with a demo account where
  1890. 1:11:23people can log in,
  1891. 1:11:24there won't be any problems.
  1892. 1:11:27Moreover, when all of this is done, in
  1893. 1:11:30fact, what will I, as an entrepreneur,
  1894. 1:11:32do next? My mind is already on the next
  1895. 1:11:36step. I will find one lawyer, run some
  1896. 1:11:39test ad campaigns, collect leads, and
  1897. 1:11:42explain to them what we want to do.
  1898. 1:11:45I’ll find one lawyer who, manually
  1899. 1:11:48and on the fly, will go through the
  1900. 1:11:50process so that we can pass the fork we
  1901. 1:11:53had—recovering 60%of fines,
  1902. 1:11:55yes, and for 20%I’ll put the unit
  1903. 1:11:57economics together. And after that, I
  1904. 1:11:59won't be building a complex platform or
  1905. 1:12:01complex code. I’ll create a landing
  1906. 1:12:03page that collects leads. And it will
  1907. 1:12:04all be done very quickly and cheaply.
  1908. 1:12:06And this will be the first iteration,
  1909. 1:12:08the first approach to the business. I
  1910. 1:12:11think the problem with these fines is
  1911. 1:12:13very relevant right now, because
  1912. 1:12:15Wildberries and Ozon, firstly, often
  1913. 1:12:17fine sellers unreasonably, and secondly
  1914. 1:12:19, they are raising commissions, so the
  1915. 1:12:22fight for efficiency and business
  1916. 1:12:24economics is really important. There.
  1917. 1:12:27But it's unclear what to do about it.
  1918. 1:12:30Maybe an intellectual property
  1919. 1:12:31protection product could be added here
  1920. 1:12:33next. That’s also a very pressing
  1921. 1:12:36issue. They copy content, they copy
  1922. 1:12:39products, they copy texts, photos—
  1923. 1:12:41everything, so in general, we need to
  1924. 1:12:44protect it. Especially the Chinese
  1925. 1:12:48sellers; on Ozon, already 20%of sellers
  1926. 1:12:51in 2024 have crossed the 20th
  1927. 1:12:53percentile, meaning 20%plus of sellers
  1928. 1:12:56on Ozon today, are Chinese. That’s
  1929. 1:13:01100,000 plus sellers. On Amazon, right
  1930. 1:13:04now at the time of recording this
  1931. 1:13:07podcast, 50%of the top sellers are from
  1932. 1:13:09China. They are located in China. A
  1933. 1:13:13good friend of mine was launching his
  1934. 1:13:16project into the international market,
  1935. 1:13:18and he was competing with the Chinese,
  1936. 1:13:20and he said, "It's a completely
  1937. 1:13:21different level of competition because
  1938. 1:13:24you release a product, you get 10
  1939. 1:13:25negative reviews instantly, and it's
  1940. 1:13:27like, you know, playing a video game on
  1941. 1:13:29Nightmare mode."
  1942. 1:13:32And that's exactly what competing with
  1943. 1:13:34the Chinese is like. But what I want to
  1944. 1:13:36say is that it's not a competition,
  1945. 1:13:37well, I mean, that's not what I'm
  1946. 1:13:39talking about. I'm talking about how
  1947. 1:13:40they copy all the content, the listings
  1948. 1:13:42, and start selling what you're selling
  1949. 1:13:44. On Ozon, I think there's even a
  1950. 1:13:47feature to make a copy. So you can
  1951. 1:13:49legally make a copy of the content
  1952. 1:13:51yourself, entirely,
  1953. 1:13:53of anything at all, and plug it into
  1954. 1:13:54your own listing. They use this with
  1955. 1:13:57pleasure, and blocking them takes some
  1956. 1:13:59time. Moreover, for every block, you
  1957. 1:14:01have to submit a ton of documents to
  1958. 1:14:03tech support, which will then review
  1959. 1:14:05everything for 10-20 days. So far, of
  1960. 1:14:07course, this hasn't led to anything.
  1961. 1:14:10Their sales are small, shipping is long
  1962. 1:14:12, but it's clear that this is changing,
  1963. 1:14:14that in America, it's already been
  1964. 1:14:15Yeah.
  1965. 1:14:16working for a long time. So, we are
  1966. 1:14:18slowly heading in that direction too.
  1967. 1:14:21Therefore, the fight for efficiency
  1968. 1:14:24will intensify, and competition will
  1969. 1:14:26increase. And you have to deal with
  1970. 1:14:28these penalties. Let me tell you what
  1971. 1:14:30happens next. So, next, once we've
  1972. 1:14:32collected all the information,
  1973. 1:14:33the product manager comes in and
  1974. 1:14:36does this meticulous, hard work.
  1975. 1:14:38Everyone thinks that being a product
  1976. 1:14:40manager is a cool job. You'll be
  1977. 1:14:41drinking smoothies and all that. In
  1978. 1:14:43reality, there's a lot of
  1979. 1:14:44responsibility, because you're actually
  1980. 1:14:47providing the inputs that the most
  1981. 1:14:48expensive resource in development then
  1982. 1:14:51uses. And to do this, you need to take
  1983. 1:14:53a few steps. I've been studying product
  1984. 1:14:56management for 15 years, and I'd like
  1985. 1:14:58to share some practices here. First,
  1986. 1:15:00you need to clearly define the personas
  1987. 1:15:02you are working with once again. Who
  1988. 1:15:04they're also often called avatars,
  1989. 1:15:06right,
  1990. 1:15:07yes. Who exactly are the people who
  1991. 1:15:09will buy your product and use it? A
  1992. 1:15:11good example here is when you look at
  1993. 1:15:13children's cartoons; they are
  1994. 1:15:14completely different. Some are for
  1995. 1:15:16girls, others are for dreamers, others
  1996. 1:15:19for nerdy kids, and so on. This is also
  1997. 1:15:22called target audience segments,
  1998. 1:15:24representatives of the target audience
  1999. 1:15:26who are described by certain
  2000. 1:15:27characteristics. Here on the screen, I
  2001. 1:15:29see you have characteristics:
  2002. 1:15:31demographics, goals, motivation, pain
  2003. 1:15:33points,
  2004. 1:15:34yes,
  2005. 1:15:36uh, technology immersion, that is,
  2006. 1:15:39technological literacy, and typical
  2007. 1:15:41usage scenarios for a specific user.
  2008. 1:15:46Next, when we provide this product,
  2009. 1:15:48people use it to do specific work,
  2010. 1:15:51especially in B2B.
  2011. 1:15:53Uh-huh.
  2012. 1:15:53I mean, we all come to work, we have
  2013. 1:15:55job descriptions and responsibilities,
  2014. 1:15:57and we carry out these tasks.
  2015. 1:15:58Accordingly, for our service, we need
  2016. 1:16:01to clearly write down what task it
  2017. 1:16:03solves, for which users, maybe reports,
  2018. 1:16:05reimbursed expenses, and so on.
  2019. 1:16:07Jobs to be Done is a very popular
  2020. 1:16:09framework. You can definitely look up
  2021. 1:16:11what that is. If you have never heard
  2022. 1:16:13this phrase before, "Jobs to be Done,"
  2023. 1:16:16just Google it or ask ChatGPT to
  2024. 1:16:18explain what it is, dive into it. This
  2025. 1:16:22will help make your product much more
  2026. 1:16:24attractive to your clients.
  2027. 1:16:28Then, once we’ve learned this, we
  2028. 1:16:30must understand how we position our
  2029. 1:16:32product among many others.
  2030. 1:16:34This is, in short, an interesting point
  2031. 1:16:37. Many think that marketing is about "
  2032. 1:16:44buying traffic," getting some blogger,
  2033. 1:16:46buying stories, or going out to buy
  2034. 1:16:48outdoor advertising, or ordering
  2035. 1:16:50something on TV during prime time, in
  2036. 1:16:52the break between the halves of the
  2037. 1:16:54World Cup final match—putting your ad
  2038. 1:16:57there. That's marketing. No, marketing
  2039. 1:17:04is the art of creating rankings where
  2040. 1:17:06your company is in first place. And
  2041. 1:17:11what makes you unique? What is your USP
  2042. 1:17:14, your unique selling proposition?
  2043. 1:17:16Unique value proposition. And here, it
  2044. 1:17:19says "value proposition." What value do
  2045. 1:17:22you bring to clients, and why should
  2046. 1:17:24they choose you over anyone else? If
  2047. 1:17:28the answer to this question is "I'm
  2048. 1:17:30cheaper," you might as well give up,
  2049. 1:17:32because whoever sells cheaper is
  2050. 1:17:33essentially competing on price. Well,
  2051. 1:17:36in price competition, the one with the
  2052. 1:17:38higher purchasing power wins. And you
  2053. 1:17:40can only earn something there on very
  2054. 1:17:42large volumes.
  2055. 1:17:43Yes, that's where economies of scale
  2056. 1:17:45come into play.
  2057. 1:17:46And
  2058. 1:17:46the answer to the question "In what are
  2059. 1:17:48you number one?" is also relevant for
  2060. 1:17:50your clients. It is relevant for your
  2061. 1:17:53employees and for candidates coming to
  2062. 1:17:55work for you. Why—why are you number
  2063. 1:17:58one as an employer? If you have an
  2064. 1:18:01answer to this question, you will get
  2065. 1:18:03cheaper staff, and you will get more
  2066. 1:18:04qualified staff. For investors, for
  2067. 1:18:07shareholders, yes, for everyone—even
  2068. 1:18:10for the country. Why should the country
  2069. 1:18:14, the government, or a tax inspector
  2070. 1:18:16support you as a business, or whoever
  2071. 1:18:18decides whether to give you IT company
  2072. 1:18:21status and provide you with tax breaks
  2073. 1:18:23or not? Why? A good answer to this
  2074. 1:18:27question will help you everywhere.
  2075. 1:18:29Next, once we have determined this, we
  2076. 1:18:31need to understand what requirements
  2077. 1:18:34our product has, what functions it
  2078. 1:18:36performs, and what it can do. Well, for
  2079. 1:18:38instance, authorization, the simplest
  2080. 1:18:40version, role management, some key
  2081. 1:18:42functionality in the dashboard, and so
  2082. 1:18:44on.
  2083. 1:18:44Then, basically, we move on to
  2084. 1:18:45technical details for the developers
  2085. 1:18:47about what exactly needs to be
  2086. 1:18:48implemented. Business stakeholders
  2087. 1:18:50usually don't think about this.
  2088. 1:18:51Typically, a business stakeholder says:
  2089. 1:18:53"Give me the moon from the sky." But
  2090. 1:18:55they don't specify what size, what
  2091. 1:18:57color, or where to put it. The
  2092. 1:18:58developer has to come up with all of
  2093. 1:19:00that themselves. Then, they present
  2094. 1:19:02their vision to the business
  2095. 1:19:03stakeholder. The business stakeholder
  2096. 1:19:05looks at it and says: "Listen, that's
  2097. 1:19:07not what I wanted at all, go redo it
  2098. 1:19:09because I don't like it." Again,
  2099. 1:19:12without diving into specific
  2100. 1:19:13requirements, the developer fixes it
  2101. 1:19:15based on their own understanding. This
  2102. 1:19:18is endless, and in the meantime, they
  2103. 1:19:20are given other similar tasks from
  2104. 1:19:21other departments in the company.
  2105. 1:19:23Without anything being defined, changes
  2106. 1:19:25are requested, and it all snowballs. As
  2107. 1:19:27a result, we end up with paralyzed IT,
  2108. 1:19:30where anyone approaching the
  2109. 1:19:31development team gets the answer: "We
  2110. 1:19:34can take this on in a year at best."
  2111. 1:19:37Our task queue is
  2112. 1:19:39so long that we cannot take yours on.
  2113. 1:19:41Nobody is getting anything done, nobody
  2114. 1:19:44is getting anything, except for what
  2115. 1:19:46they call HIPPO. Highest-Paid Person's
  2116. 1:19:48Opinion. Meaning, the person who earns
  2117. 1:19:50the most in the organization can walk
  2118. 1:19:52up to the developers and say: "Drop
  2119. 1:19:54everything you have in the queue and do
  2120. 1:19:56this." And so the queue is not for the
  2121. 1:19:58developers, but for these people. You
  2122. 1:20:00have to prove why something needs to be
  2123. 1:20:02done now to push the queue further. To
  2124. 1:20:05prevent this, to avoid useless work, we
  2125. 1:20:08describe requirements in detail. As
  2126. 1:20:13Pavel Alferov once said—he is a
  2127. 1:20:15professor at Skolkovo who teaches
  2128. 1:20:17project management.
  2129. 1:20:19He has this catchphrase, well, it's a
  2130. 1:20:21catchphrase for me, I keep repeating it
  2131. 1:20:23. The most terrible thing that can
  2132. 1:20:25happen to a project manager is to make
  2133. 1:20:27a project that nobody needs. And in the
  2134. 1:20:29story I just told, the business
  2135. 1:20:31stakeholder receives a product they
  2136. 1:20:33don't need. This means the project
  2137. 1:20:35management was done terribly, and we
  2138. 1:20:37are excluding that here. Is the result
  2139. 1:20:39there? Let's check. Yes, everything is
  2140. 1:20:42there. And we won't even look at it
  2141. 1:20:44right now.
  2142. 1:20:45Yeah, there is a mile-long study here
  2143. 1:20:47that you guys will look at later. We
  2144. 1:20:49won't overwhelm you with it. The point
  2145. 1:20:53is that some incredible magic happened
  2146. 1:20:55here. Here, an analysis of dozens of
  2147. 1:21:00sources on the internet has been
  2148. 1:21:02performed, from which all information
  2149. 1:21:04was gathered and a bunch of conclusions
  2150. 1:21:06drawn; now we are asking to apply these
  2151. 1:21:08conclusions to a product development
  2152. 1:21:10framework. Which, by the way, can be
  2153. 1:21:15done by simply copying and pasting the
  2154. 1:21:17prompt you'll see.
  2155. 1:21:18Look, this part is important, right?
  2156. 1:21:20Let's go through what we did in order.
  2157. 1:21:21We looked at the ideas, scored which
  2158. 1:21:23one was interesting, then challenged it
  2159. 1:21:25. We found a business model, meaning we
  2160. 1:21:28took a seed of an idea and grew a
  2161. 1:21:29flower to see what it might look like.
  2162. 1:21:31Uh-huh.
  2163. 1:21:32After that, we went and conducted
  2164. 1:21:34research on whether this flower is
  2165. 1:21:36valuable in the market or not. Now we
  2166. 1:21:39say: "Okay, let's now, on the basis of
  2167. 1:21:42this, uh, beautiful idea, make a
  2168. 1:21:46product, let's plant a big garden."
  2169. 1:21:48What could it look like? A garden made
  2170. 1:21:50of these flowers. And I am writing the
  2171. 1:21:52following task for it. I will give you,
  2172. 1:21:54I will give you a template—the
  2173. 1:21:56professional term is Product
  2174. 1:21:58Requirements Document. These are
  2175. 1:21:59product requirements, a "TZ" in Russian
  2176. 1:22:01. Without a "TZ"[spec], you'll get "who
  2177. 1:22:03knows what." Just like you were saying
  2178. 1:22:05before.
  2179. 1:22:05Without a spec, the result is "who
  2180. 1:22:06knows what."
  2181. 1:22:07Yes. Yes. The only thing is, when I
  2182. 1:22:09have time, I'll definitely sit down and
  2183. 1:22:11try to collect all the artifacts of the
  2184. 1:22:13Soviet engineering school, because a
  2185. 1:22:15huge number of things and studies that
  2186. 1:22:17are being done were brilliantly
  2187. 1:22:19described in the format of NIRs, OKRs,
  2188. 1:22:21and so on. I—I studied at Phystech.
  2189. 1:22:23And I...We laughed because Artyom told
  2190. 1:22:27a joke at the beginning. He says: "What
  2191. 1:22:29should I tell about myself?" I start
  2192. 1:22:31listing, and I say: "Well, definitely
  2193. 1:22:33say that you are from Phystech, because
  2194. 1:22:35you know how to tell if a person is a
  2195. 1:22:37vegan or if they studied at Phystech?"
  2196. 1:22:39He says: "How?""Well, they'll tell you
  2197. 1:22:41about it themselves for sure."
  2198. 1:22:43Yes, I waited for 2 hours,
  2199. 1:22:45it slipped out, I had to say it. It
  2200. 1:22:47slipped out, yes. And I worked with our
  2201. 1:22:50greatest engineers who created, I don't
  2202. 1:22:52know, Russia's air defense protection.
  2203. 1:22:55Some of them worked with Nobel
  2204. 1:22:57laureates, and their culture is
  2205. 1:22:59magnificent. So, the product culture we
  2206. 1:23:01have now, which all IT people are proud
  2207. 1:23:03of, no, it is, well, still quite
  2208. 1:23:05youthful.
  2209. 1:23:06It goes back even 300 years. It's a
  2210. 1:23:08whole,
  2211. 1:23:09yes,
  2212. 1:23:10field of knowledge that, it seems to me
  2213. 1:23:12, is somehow neglected, or something,
  2214. 1:23:15and, uh, underestimated. Because if we
  2215. 1:23:18were to train the model, say, on all
  2216. 1:23:20the literature on TRIZ and apply it
  2217. 1:23:22somewhere to our prompts about niche
  2218. 1:23:24ideas, there would also be a lot more
  2219. 1:23:27value-driven offshoots there.
  2220. 1:23:29We launched de Persch. Right now, I’m
  2221. 1:23:34giving him the format for market
  2222. 1:23:36research requirements, as well as this
  2223. 1:23:38big study we completed, which is the
  2224. 1:23:40result of our challenge. Basically,
  2225. 1:23:43I’m feeding him everything we did
  2226. 1:23:45before and telling him: "Create a
  2227. 1:23:46document for me." We already have the
  2228. 1:23:48landing page ready. So, listen,
  2229. 1:23:49everything is being recorded.
  2230. 1:23:51What did you just do?
  2231. 1:23:54I passed him the product description.
  2232. 1:23:58The product description. He just came
  2233. 1:24:00up with a product description and
  2234. 1:24:02defined the avatars,
  2235. 1:24:03right?
  2236. 1:24:04He prepared the USP for them
  2237. 1:24:06immediately. So, in essence, the
  2238. 1:24:09marketing packaging for the business
  2239. 1:24:11model we just invented has been
  2240. 1:24:13completed. Well, not invented by us,
  2241. 1:24:15but this is what's called vibe-coding.
  2242. 1:24:17We just vibe-coded it.
  2243. 1:24:18Let's try using a more powerful model
  2244. 1:24:20now, because it can think through the
  2245. 1:24:21details more thoroughly. And after that
  2246. 1:24:23, we will take all these product
  2247. 1:24:25requirements—you see them forming—
  2248. 1:24:27and feed them into the vibe-coding tool
  2249. 1:24:32, and it will build us a quick
  2250. 1:24:34prototype.
  2251. 1:24:34Yes. So, next, we’re going to use a
  2252. 1:24:37tool called Lovable. It’s making a
  2253. 1:24:43lot of noise in the US market right now
  2254. 1:24:45, because it's one of the champions—
  2255. 1:24:47this company is one of the champions in
  2256. 1:24:49revenue growth rate, in terms of
  2257. 1:24:51monthly recurring revenue. I mean, it
  2258. 1:24:58took them something like 8 or 10 months
  2259. 1:25:00to reach 10 million in monthly revenue.
  2260. 1:25:03And that’s almost an absolute record.
  2261. 1:25:05We’ll show you why right now. Just
  2262. 1:25:07look at what he’s doing. He’s
  2263. 1:25:09writing out the product in full detail,
  2264. 1:25:11covering every aspect. Yes,
  2265. 1:25:13the functionality is described right
  2266. 1:25:14here. I see CSV file uploads,
  2267. 1:25:17yes,
  2268. 1:25:18from the Ozon personal account.
  2269. 1:25:21And he goes on to score the
  2270. 1:25:22functionality to determine which
  2271. 1:25:24features should come first and which
  2272. 1:25:25second.
  2273. 1:25:26Yes,
  2274. 1:25:27the information architecture is laid
  2275. 1:25:29out here, and the detailed user flow is
  2276. 1:25:31included. There.
  2277. 1:25:32But the thing is, you still need to
  2278. 1:25:33understand all of this, of course. We
  2279. 1:25:35started by saying you won't need a
  2280. 1:25:37super-expert, just an AI. But honestly,
  2281. 1:25:39without 15 years of experience in
  2282. 1:25:41product and software development,
  2283. 1:25:43everything you’re doing now wouldn't
  2284. 1:25:45be possible. One can repeat after you.
  2285. 1:25:48One can repeat after me,
  2286. 1:25:49but coming up with these prompts,
  2287. 1:25:51knowing which ones are good, and
  2288. 1:25:53stitching these tools together like
  2289. 1:25:55this—it still feels impossible for
  2290. 1:25:57most.
  2291. 1:25:58I have a good friend of mine. Uh,
  2292. 1:26:01but one can repeat after us. You can
  2293. 1:26:03build a billion-dollar business. And
  2294. 1:26:06a Muslim, he told me—he said, "How is
  2295. 1:26:08it done in Islam? So, first you spend
  2296. 1:26:1020 years growing up, listening to your
  2297. 1:26:12parents and helping them, then the next
  2298. 1:26:1520 years you create something in the
  2299. 1:26:17world, and after that, you teach others
  2300. 1:26:19. We’re turning 40 soon, and I think
  2301. 1:26:21it’s time to start teaching others.
  2302. 1:26:23When we were young, we couldn't even
  2303. 1:26:25add two plus two. If only someone had
  2304. 1:26:27explained that to us back then.
  2305. 1:26:29That’s why I think that while it
  2306. 1:26:31might be hard for some to figure out,
  2307. 1:26:33I’m sure my nine-year-old son will be
  2308. 1:26:35able to build endless games, services,
  2309. 1:26:37and so on in just a year. I think we
  2310. 1:26:41could compile everything from this
  2311. 1:26:43podcast and all these dialogues—
  2312. 1:26:45however many we have, five or six in
  2313. 1:26:47total with ChatGPT—
  2314. 1:26:51we could turn that into a neural
  2315. 1:26:53network training course that explains
  2316. 1:26:55step-by-step everything you need to do.
  2317. 1:27:00All the prepared prompts are ready, so
  2318. 1:27:01anyone can go through this training
  2319. 1:27:03quickly. And that’s basically it.
  2320. 1:27:06Alright, let’s move to
  2321. 1:27:08We are moving to Lovable. I’ll share
  2322. 1:27:10a lifehack.
  2323. 1:27:11It’s a lifehack. And
  2324. 1:27:13we’ll do it a little differently.
  2325. 1:27:16We’ll write it for him—it's an
  2326. 1:27:18international service, so it’s better
  2327. 1:27:20to work with English prompts, yes.
  2328. 1:27:25Generate an empty project. We are
  2329. 1:27:28creating an empty project. Lovable is
  2330. 1:27:33like ChatGPT, but instead of text, it
  2331. 1:27:35generates websites, applications—
  2332. 1:27:37everything you can view on your phone
  2333. 1:27:39or in a browser, with a ready-made
  2334. 1:27:42interface, menu items, and buttons you
  2335. 1:27:44can click. I would say that, well, in
  2336. 1:27:49development this is called a functional
  2337. 1:27:51product prototype. Meaning it’s not a
  2338. 1:27:53finished program that you can just go
  2339. 1:27:55out and sell. It’s something you can
  2340. 1:27:57test with users, show them, and ask:"
  2341. 1:27:59Look, this is what it will look like,
  2342. 1:28:01are you buying or not? "And so, Artem
  2343. 1:28:03just entered the research results and
  2344. 1:28:05the request here. What request did you
  2345. 1:28:07enter?
  2346. 1:28:08We went into Lovable, you can register
  2347. 1:28:09there.
  2348. 1:28:10You told it," Make an empty project. "
  2349. 1:28:12Yes, I told it," Make an empty project.
  2350. 1:28:14"And then, what we do is, it created
  2351. 1:28:16the empty project. Okay, let it be like
  2352. 1:28:19that. And then we go into the settings,
  2353. 1:28:26yes,
  2354. 1:28:28and here we enter a detailed
  2355. 1:28:29description of the project we’re
  2356. 1:28:31building into the knowledge base.
  2357. 1:28:32Meaning,
  2358. 1:28:33the one you got from ChatGPT,
  2359. 1:28:35right?
  2360. 1:28:35We just copied and pasted it.
  2361. 1:28:37No matter where we go or what we do, it
  2362. 1:28:38will always remember what the product
  2363. 1:28:40is, what candles it has, and so on. It
  2364. 1:28:42won't lose context; it will remember
  2365. 1:28:43all of that. That’s its little
  2366. 1:28:45instruction set.
  2367. 1:28:45All right.
  2368. 1:28:46And then, once we’ve done that,
  2369. 1:28:47this is the result of ChatGPT’s work,
  2370. 1:28:49yes. Uh-huh.
  2371. 1:28:53Notice that I feel like we spent more
  2372. 1:28:55time choosing the idea than actually
  2373. 1:28:57implementing it. I mean, the
  2374. 1:28:58implementation is very fast. If we had
  2375. 1:29:00more time, we would have done all three
  2376. 1:29:02ideas.
  2377. 1:29:03I think, I think it was about the same,
  2378. 1:29:05yeah. And now we’re typing" please "
  2379. 1:29:07to it. Develop project. Build a service
  2380. 1:29:15based on the documents you’ve been
  2381. 1:29:17uploaded. That’s it, now we wait.
  2382. 1:29:30Just for the sake of interest, I’ll
  2383. 1:29:32run another service too. This is the V0
  2384. 1:29:34service. I like it, I love it, I’m a
  2385. 1:29:37fan of it. So, what is V0? V0 is a
  2386. 1:29:43smart developer you can tell what you
  2387. 1:29:45want to build, and it draws a really
  2388. 1:29:48beautiful frontend product for you. It
  2389. 1:29:52won’t have the backend part—well,
  2390. 1:29:53you can do it, but it’s not really
  2391. 1:29:55meant for that. But that most beautiful
  2392. 1:29:57part,
  2393. 1:29:58exactly. Basically, it’s also a
  2394. 1:30:00functional prototype. What we used to
  2395. 1:30:02build in Figma, InVision, or some other
  2396. 1:30:04visual
  2397. 1:30:05drag-and-drop editors like Canva, maybe
  2398. 1:30:08, is now being done by AI
  2399. 1:30:12through prompts. You just copied the
  2400. 1:30:14same thing from the chat.
  2401. 1:30:15Yes, I just copied it from there. So
  2402. 1:30:17let it sit there, figure it out, and
  2403. 1:30:18think for itself. It’s doing that
  2404. 1:30:20right now.
  2405. 1:30:20How much time does V0 take to work?
  2406. 1:30:23About 5 to 10 minutes. The detail is
  2407. 1:30:25that what you’ll see is that you have
  2408. 1:30:27a page. And on that page, there’s,
  2409. 1:30:29for example, a button
  2410. 1:30:30to export a document. And it won't do
  2411. 1:30:32that in the first version. So you have
  2412. 1:30:34to ask:" Also, add this little detail,
  2413. 1:30:36and that little detail, "and spend
  2414. 1:30:38another 10 minutes on it. Okay,
  2415. 1:30:40what’s happening in Replit?
  2416. 1:30:43I think Replit has already reached a
  2417. 1:30:44certain point. Right. Uh-huh. We have a
  2418. 1:30:48landing page.
  2419. 1:30:49Let’s open it right away. This
  2420. 1:30:51let's
  2421. 1:30:51in a separate one, yes, in a separate
  2422. 1:30:54window. Framer.
  2423. 1:30:55Oh, oh, oh. And here, see, there’s
  2424. 1:30:58something here: home, login, dashboard.
  2425. 1:31:01Right now, we have a dashboard. So,
  2426. 1:31:03let’s go.
  2427. 1:31:04Yes, let’s start from the beginning.
  2428. 1:31:06Let’s. This is a finished landing
  2429. 1:31:08page. In principle, it’s not bad, in
  2430. 1:31:10my opinion. Return your fines in one
  2431. 1:31:11click.
  2432. 1:31:12Yes, what happened here? So, first, the
  2433. 1:31:15positioning was developed, marketing
  2434. 1:31:17headlines appeared—all created by
  2435. 1:31:19artificial intelligence, which says:"
  2436. 1:31:21Appeal fines in one click. "We automate
  2437. 1:31:25WBY Azone fine appeals, helping you
  2438. 1:31:27save more revenue without any manual
  2439. 1:31:29work. And here, a landing page appeared
  2440. 1:31:35that offers to start a free trial or
  2441. 1:31:37watch a demo. So, Artem suggested he
  2442. 1:31:41finish a few more things. Well, let's
  2443. 1:31:44move on—here, yes, it's not just a
  2444. 1:31:46landing page. What else is here? Here
  2445. 1:31:48is,
  2446. 1:31:49yes, let's look at the functionality
  2447. 1:31:50itself, because of how it looks to the
  2448. 1:31:52clients. The AI service came up with
  2449. 1:31:54all of this right now.
  2450. 1:31:55Automatic integration,
  2451. 1:31:56yes, an appeals engine, one-click
  2452. 1:31:59documents, real-time notifications, a
  2453. 1:32:01performance dashboard, and an agency
  2454. 1:32:03mode, which is also cool. Reviews on
  2455. 1:32:06which is not only cool but for some
  2456. 1:32:07reasons relevant. Right now, sellers on
  2457. 1:32:10the market—it's very important on
  2458. 1:32:12landing pages when you show how it will
  2459. 1:32:14work. Meaning you connect, then go into
  2460. 1:32:17the dashboard, check, download the
  2461. 1:32:19documents, and send them off.
  2462. 1:32:20Agreed. Pricing plans
  2463. 1:32:2215,000 rubles per month, 10,000 rubles
  2464. 1:32:25per month plus 10%.
  2465. 1:32:27Uh-huh.
  2466. 1:32:28Awesome.
  2467. 1:32:29So, let's start with
  2468. 1:32:30and the call to action at the bottom.
  2469. 1:32:32Great. So, we are logging into the
  2470. 1:32:34system.
  2471. 1:32:34Ah, I hope it can be done just like
  2472. 1:32:36that, if it lets us,
  2473. 1:32:37yes. Well, generally, there is a login
  2474. 1:32:40form, a registration form, and a
  2475. 1:32:42ready-made personal account page that
  2476. 1:32:44shows,
  2477. 1:32:44how many fines you've received, how
  2478. 1:32:46many came in during the selected period
  2479. 1:32:48, and the potential refund. How many
  2480. 1:32:50are currently in appeal and what is the
  2481. 1:32:52success rate? Would you like to have a
  2482. 1:32:55dashboard like this so your lawyer—
  2483. 1:32:57well, in general, where it's recorded
  2484. 1:32:59how many fines you have, how many are
  2485. 1:33:01currently being appealed, how many were
  2486. 1:33:04returned, the success rate, and a list
  2487. 1:33:06of the latest fines, which I think is
  2488. 1:33:08very cool.
  2489. 1:33:09And right now, it's writing the
  2490. 1:33:10functionality, and it will look like a
  2491. 1:33:12fully ready service. And when you go to
  2492. 1:33:14a seller, they won't realize it isn't
  2493. 1:33:16real. Yes, you'll say it's a simulation
  2494. 1:33:18of the data, and they'll think that it
  2495. 1:33:20actually works.
  2496. 1:33:22There's a publish button on the right.
  2497. 1:33:23In general, you can publish it, and
  2498. 1:33:25then it will appear at a public address
  2499. 1:33:27.
  2500. 1:33:27Let's see just for interest what Visero
  2501. 1:33:29does. So, it's still developing it here
  2502. 1:33:31.
  2503. 1:33:31Visero is a more advanced tool, right?
  2504. 1:33:33Here, as we can see, code is being
  2505. 1:33:35written. Although V0 is being made, I
  2506. 1:33:37think V0 is better, better. Yes. Get
  2507. 1:33:39more messages with premium. Ah, well no
  2508. 1:33:42, here it's all,
  2509. 1:33:43Yes, on this screen, you can see a
  2510. 1:33:44little circle spinning next to the word
  2511. 1:33:46" page "in the middle column. This
  2512. 1:33:49means it’s writing code right now as
  2513. 1:33:51we speak, it's coming up with the code
  2514. 1:33:53for this page,
  2515. 1:33:54yes, and you can take a look. There it
  2516. 1:33:56is, finished.
  2517. 1:33:57And somewhere down there, it will
  2518. 1:33:58clearly continue writing this story
  2519. 1:34:00right now.
  2520. 1:34:00Yes. When I talked to strong product
  2521. 1:34:04managers and developers, they said that
  2522. 1:34:06this is roughly one or two weeks of
  2523. 1:34:07work for a highly professional team.
  2524. 1:34:11Well, you have to understand that while
  2525. 1:34:13it’s a week or two of work for a pro
  2526. 1:34:15team, if you have a pro team, they
  2527. 1:34:17aren't sitting idle,
  2528. 1:34:18right,
  2529. 1:34:18they have a project they’re managing,
  2530. 1:34:20and they have a backlog of a million
  2531. 1:34:22other things. And when you come with an
  2532. 1:34:24idea, your idea gets in line with that
  2533. 1:34:26team, the turn will come after some
  2534. 1:34:28time, and then it will be those weeks
  2535. 1:34:30of work on this story.
  2536. 1:34:33It starts adding functionality.
  2537. 1:34:35Well, in general, there’s an infinite
  2538. 1:34:37space that follows. But, guys, what are
  2539. 1:34:39we going to do with you?
  2540. 1:34:40Look, here’s an integration module,
  2541. 1:34:42please enter the token.
  2542. 1:34:44Yes, it has already appeared here
  2543. 1:34:46appeals.
  2544. 1:34:47Here is a list of appeals. In short,
  2545. 1:34:50there is a ready-made solution here
  2546. 1:34:52that the AI has thought out, which
  2547. 1:34:54looks very good. Anyway, write in the
  2548. 1:34:57comments, guys, entrepreneurs, anyone
  2549. 1:35:00who wants to take this on, Artem and I
  2550. 1:35:02will invest. Some amount of money, I
  2551. 1:35:04don’t know how much, a million rubles
  2552. 1:35:05,
  2553. 1:35:05yes, it's possible, whoever wants to
  2554. 1:35:07take it on, come forward,
  2555. 1:35:08yes. And we will, in short, join the
  2556. 1:35:10board of directors of this business,
  2557. 1:35:11take a share, and we’ll coach you. If
  2558. 1:35:13you want to ramp this story up, or
  2559. 1:35:15something else from the list, we’ll
  2560. 1:35:16make a YouTube show out of it, about
  2561. 1:35:18how this business develops. That will
  2562. 1:35:19be cool. If you want to, mark yourself
  2563. 1:35:21in the comments somehow so we can
  2564. 1:35:23contact you about this, make yourselves
  2565. 1:35:25known. Tell us about yourself, who you
  2566. 1:35:27are, how we can find you. And that's it
  2567. 1:35:28. We’ll get a topic like this going.
  2568. 1:35:30Maybe someone is watching now who has
  2569. 1:35:32long dreamed of having their own
  2570. 1:35:34business. But we will be strict judges.
  2571. 1:35:36It won't fly with us, no. We need you
  2572. 1:35:38to be go-getters. There’s already
  2573. 1:35:41functionality built here, personas,
  2574. 1:35:43jobs to be done, marketing positioning,
  2575. 1:35:46and a functional prototype has been
  2576. 1:35:48made that you can click through.
  2577. 1:35:50Everything necessary for engineers has
  2578. 1:35:52basically been described. Artem didn't
  2579. 1:35:54like the design at my suggestion just
  2580. 1:35:56now. Well, yeah, it does look a little
  2581. 1:35:58bit simple. I just want it to be a bit
  2582. 1:36:01nicer. What Vizirov is still doing,
  2583. 1:36:03what he is still up to. Well, let's not
  2584. 1:36:05get distracted by them,
  2585. 1:36:06let's just leave it at that. That's
  2586. 1:36:08enough for an example, guys, because
  2587. 1:36:09what just happened? We sat down here
  2588. 1:36:12two hours ago to chat. While I was
  2589. 1:36:15drinking my coffee and Artyom was
  2590. 1:36:17drinking water, we found several
  2591. 1:36:19promising niches. We picked out the
  2592. 1:36:23ones that were the most appealing in
  2593. 1:36:25our view, and in the AI's view, and
  2594. 1:36:26conducted deep product research, which
  2595. 1:36:28you can take a look at. We made a
  2596. 1:36:31functional prototype. The next steps,
  2597. 1:36:35in general, were described to us in the
  2598. 1:36:37AI's plan. These are test advertising
  2599. 1:36:41campaigns, first clients, starting
  2600. 1:36:43development, and validating hypotheses.
  2601. 1:36:48I would take this to some company that
  2602. 1:36:50specializes in software development
  2603. 1:36:52outsourcing. Yeah. Overall, it's not
  2604. 1:36:55hard to find. There are industry
  2605. 1:36:57ratings where you can find many
  2606. 1:36:59outsourcers. And I would go to get an
  2607. 1:37:01estimate of how much it costs to
  2608. 1:37:03develop the first version of such a
  2609. 1:37:05service and how long it would take.
  2610. 1:37:07Then I would get confirmation from the
  2611. 1:37:08market with real money. As an
  2612. 1:37:10entrepreneur, I would want to get some
  2613. 1:37:12pre-payments, like—it costs 15,000
  2614. 1:37:14rubles——pay me 1,000, and I'll give
  2615. 1:37:17you first access as soon as it's ready,
  2616. 1:37:19or I'll return the money 2x, for
  2617. 1:37:21example. Yes, I would collect 50 such
  2618. 1:37:24pre-payments and then I would go to a
  2619. 1:37:26venture fund for investment and say," I
  2620. 1:37:28have deep research, I have a prototype,
  2621. 1:37:31I have a development budget, I have
  2622. 1:37:33market validation, and here is how much
  2623. 1:37:35money I've collected. "At the same time
  2624. 1:37:38, I only spent, well, 2 hours on
  2625. 1:37:41vibe-coding. I spent about a week on
  2626. 1:37:43Zoom calls with the potential target
  2627. 1:37:45audience. Yeah. And I'm risking 50,000
  2628. 1:37:49rubles. that I'd have to pay out if
  2629. 1:37:53nothing happens. And that, by the way,
  2630. 1:37:55is my negative motivation, my carrot on
  2631. 1:37:57a stick from behind, that I will lose
  2632. 1:37:5950,000 rubles. in payouts. Well, anyway
  2633. 1:38:02, that's it.
  2634. 1:38:04But I would still listen to the AI,
  2635. 1:38:06take it, publish this landing page
  2636. 1:38:08right now, and run an ad on a Telegram
  2637. 1:38:11channel.
  2638. 1:38:12Yes,
  2639. 1:38:13right now. As usual, guys, please write
  2640. 1:38:17in the comments, what do you think: in
  2641. 1:38:19the 6 months the AI suggested, will it
  2642. 1:38:21be possible to take this business model
  2643. 1:38:24from zero to revenue? It said, by the
  2644. 1:38:27way, not one million rubles, I think it
  2645. 1:38:29was 3 to 4 million rubles a month.
  2646. 1:38:32With market profitability. The future
  2647. 1:38:34is already here. Yeah. But it's up to
  2648. 1:38:37you to judge whether it will work or
  2649. 1:38:38not. Let's wrap it up. If you have
  2650. 1:38:41anything else important to say, go
  2651. 1:38:43ahead, we need some kind of cherry on
  2652. 1:38:45top.
  2653. 1:38:47I will finish with what I started, what
  2654. 1:38:49we were talking about, that everyone
  2655. 1:38:51thinks artificial intelligence helps
  2656. 1:38:53you work better, but I tell everyone
  2657. 1:38:55that you can start doing the impossible
  2658. 1:38:56. And what each of you can do is try to
  2659. 1:39:00repeat what we've done and accomplish
  2660. 1:39:01things you’ve never been able to do
  2661. 1:39:03before. Let’s finish then with a
  2662. 1:39:09thought, maybe a scene from an Isaac
  2663. 1:39:12Asimov book, where the main character
  2664. 1:39:14talks to a robot and says:" You’re a
  2665. 1:39:16soulless machine, you’ll never be
  2666. 1:39:18able to write a symphony, create a
  2667. 1:39:20great masterpiece, or come up with a
  2668. 1:39:22brilliant poem, because no matter what
  2669. 1:39:24kind of artificial intelligence you
  2670. 1:39:26have, it's impossible for you, you
  2671. 1:39:28can't do it. "And do you remember what
  2672. 1:39:34the robot answers him? The robot says:"
  2673. 1:39:37But can you? "And on that note, well,
  2674. 1:39:40that’s not my scene, guys. Robots are
  2675. 1:39:42evolving, we can be friends with them,
  2676. 1:39:44and we can earn money with their help.
  2677. 1:39:46Please, leave a like, hit the bell,
  2678. 1:39:48subscribe to our channel, and write
  2679. 1:39:50your biggest takeaway from this video
  2680. 1:39:52in the comments. That will help you
  2681. 1:39:54promote it. And we will see you in the
  2682. 1:39:56next video.
  2683. 1:39:57Bye.

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