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  1. 0:06they'll set alright well good afternoon
  2. 0:10my name is bill shootie and i have the
  3. 0:12privilege of serving as Michigan's
  4. 0:13Attorney General thank you for coming
  5. 0:15mayor Weaver I'm so pleased you're here
  6. 0:18and I admire greatly your leadership
  7. 0:20here in the city of flint on January
  8. 0:2315th of this year I initiated and an
  9. 0:27independent investigation to determine
  10. 0:30what laws may have been broken in the
  11. 0:33Flint water crisis my job as attorney
  12. 0:36general is to enforce the law and that
  13. 0:38is what I do I've said this before and
  14. 0:42it bears repeating that so many things
  15. 0:45went so terribly wrong and tragically
  16. 0:48wrong in Flint today today we are
  17. 0:54announcing we filed criminal charges in
  18. 0:57the Flint water crisis against three
  19. 0:59individuals we have filed charges
  20. 1:02against Stephen Bush an employee of the
  21. 1:07Michigan Department of Environmental
  22. 1:08Quality and Michael frisbee also an
  23. 1:11employee of the Michigan Department of
  24. 1:13Environmental Quality we have charged
  25. 1:17each individual with three felonies
  26. 1:20three separate felonies first we've
  27. 1:24charged mr. bush and mr. frisbee with
  28. 1:27misconduct in office a felony mr. bush
  29. 1:31and mr. prison frisbee misled federal
  30. 1:34and local authorities regulatory
  31. 1:37officials and failed to provide a safe
  32. 1:40and clean water to families of Flint
  33. 1:44when we prove these allegations and we
  34. 1:47will mr. bush and mr. prysby will be
  35. 1:51facing five years in prison
  36. 1:53for this count alone we have also
  37. 1:56charged mr. bush and mr. prysby with
  38. 1:59intentionally intentionally tampering
  39. 2:02with evidence
  40. 2:03of lead levels uncertain on certain
  41. 2:07water sample samples in homes of
  42. 2:10residents of Flint we allegedly will
  43. 2:13prove that mr. bush and mr. pris be
  44. 2:16altered test results which endangered
  45. 2:20the health of citizens and families of
  46. 2:23Flint this is a four-year felony
  47. 2:26we have further charged mr. bush and mr.
  48. 2:30prysby
  49. 2:31with conspiracy conspiracy to tamper
  50. 2:34with evidence and their joint agreement
  51. 2:37to conceal test results on Flint water
  52. 2:41samples
  53. 2:41this also is a four-year felony
  54. 2:44we have charged mr. prysby with an
  55. 2:48additional felony of misconduct in
  56. 2:51office by authorizing an operating
  57. 2:56permit for the Flint water treatment
  58. 2:59plant knowing knowing that the plant
  59. 3:03would fail to provide clean and safe
  60. 3:05drinking water to families of Flint
  61. 3:08this too is a four-year felony
  62. 3:11we charged both mr. bush and mr. prysby
  63. 3:15with two misdemeanors for violating
  64. 3:17Michigan's safe drinking water act by
  65. 3:20failing by failing to require
  66. 3:23anti-corrosive be added to the Flint
  67. 3:27water system and by manipulating by
  68. 3:29manipulating water samples by directing
  69. 3:32Flint citizens to pre flush their taps
  70. 3:37these employees of the Department of
  71. 3:39Environmental Quality had a duty they
  72. 3:42had a duty to protect the health of
  73. 3:44families and citizens of Flint they
  74. 3:48failed they failed to discharge their
  75. 3:51duties they
  76. 3:53they failed in their responsibilities to
  77. 3:56protect the health and safety of
  78. 3:58families of Flint they failed Michigan
  79. 4:02families indeed they failed us all and I
  80. 4:06don't care where you live mr. michael
  81. 4:10glasgow is an employee of the city of
  82. 4:12flint working at the water treatment
  83. 4:14plant we have charged mr. Glasco with
  84. 4:17felony tampering with evidence by
  85. 4:19altering and falsifying reports the to
  86. 4:23the DEQ and the EPA we've also charged
  87. 4:28mr. Glasco with willful neglect of duty
  88. 4:30a misdemeanor by failing to protect the
  89. 4:33health of Flint families and by
  90. 4:35violating his duties under the Michigan
  91. 4:38Safe Drinking Water Act when I announced
  92. 4:43this investigation I stated I stated
  93. 4:47this was the beginning of the road back
  94. 4:50now road back to rebuilding and
  95. 4:52restoring the road back to rebuilding
  96. 4:55and restoring trust and confidence of
  97. 4:57Flint families in their government
  98. 5:02indeed this is a road back to restoring
  99. 5:07faith and confidence in all Michigan
  100. 5:10families in their government well we're
  101. 5:14on the road back and I know this will
  102. 5:17take some time but in Michigan as I made
  103. 5:20it abundantly clear I've made it
  104. 5:23abundantly clear that our system of
  105. 5:26justice applies to everybody it's not
  106. 5:28rigged known as above the law not on my
  107. 5:33watch our investigation when it is
  108. 5:37completed will be thorough it will be
  109. 5:39complete it'll be exhaustive we will
  110. 5:42enforce the law this Flint crisis team
  111. 5:47that has been assembled we will enforce
  112. 5:50the law we will protect the victims the
  113. 5:54families and citizens of Flint and we
  114. 5:56will hold
  115. 5:58each and every person each and every
  116. 6:01person who breaks the law will be held
  117. 6:04accountable we'll follow the facts
  118. 6:07without fear or favor and we'll go
  119. 6:10wherever the truth takes us and in this
  120. 6:12case
  121. 6:13wherever the emails take us these
  122. 6:18charges are only the beginning and
  123. 6:22there'll be more to come that I can
  124. 6:25guarantee you we want to introduce Todd
  125. 6:28flood who's the special counsel on the
  126. 6:30Flint water crisis team former skilled
  127. 6:35prosecutor doing a great job Todd our
  128. 6:39special counsel say a few words sir
  129. 6:41thank you yeah you bet Thank You Kip
  130. 6:43Bell good afternoon my name is Todd
  131. 6:47flood I am the special assistant
  132. 6:49attorney general and I've been charged
  133. 6:52with the task of prosecuting and
  134. 6:54investigating this case there's no I in
  135. 6:57team to my right is mr. Arena and behind
  136. 7:01me home home bound here mr. Ellis and to
  137. 7:06my far left mr. Laden prosecutor with
  138. 7:09several more back home investigating
  139. 7:13this case today as we speak and we will
  140. 7:15turn over every stone we'll go down
  141. 7:18every rabbit hole this is just the first
  142. 7:20wave I'm not gonna try this case in the
  143. 7:23press I have an ethical duty not to do
  144. 7:25that
  145. 7:26and I don't want to be grieved before I
  146. 7:27start so I won't try this case in the
  147. 7:31press I can simply tell you that the
  148. 7:33public health that's what the DEQ is
  149. 7:36charged that's their purpose that's what
  150. 7:39the law states and the public health
  151. 7:42that was violated so we start today we
  152. 7:47start today with charges and we will
  153. 7:49continue to go through every single door
  154. 7:52interview people and
  155. 7:55have the best team assembled to do that
  156. 7:58job thank you thank you sad let me turn
  157. 8:02it over next to Andy arena Andy's the
  158. 8:06former head of the FBI here in Detroit
  159. 8:08impeccable reputation
  160. 8:10tough skilled guy Andy let's go Tibet
  161. 8:14I'll be very very brief in my comments
  162. 8:17today Andy arena
  163. 8:18I'm the chief investigator for the Flint
  164. 8:21water team about two-and-a-half months
  165. 8:23ago we stood before the press a lot few
  166. 8:25of you at that time but we stood before
  167. 8:28you and we told you that we were going
  168. 8:30to put this team together and we were
  169. 8:32going to start this investigation since
  170. 8:33that day we have put together a very
  171. 8:36skilled team of investigators and
  172. 8:38prosecutors top-notch we've interviewed
  173. 8:40a number of people we have gone out and
  174. 8:43gathered volumes of evidence and we've
  175. 8:46analyzed that and reviewed that and the
  176. 8:50result is what you see today the
  177. 8:51charging of these three gentlemen
  178. 8:52doesn't mean we're done Attorney General
  179. 8:57said we're on the road to recovery I'm
  180. 8:59just getting on the edge of trim to i-75
  181. 9:01we got a long way to go we have a lot of
  182. 9:04people interview a lot of evidence to
  183. 9:05get a lot of things to go through and we
  184. 9:08will do that that's our job two and a
  185. 9:11half months ago I told the people of
  186. 9:12Flint I said where do our best to get
  187. 9:16you the answers that you deserve today
  188. 9:18ever do that promise we will get you the
  189. 9:20answers and we will hold those
  190. 9:22accountable we're not targeting any
  191. 9:24persons or people nobody's off-limits
  192. 9:28either thank you
  193. 9:32thank you very much Andy I want to just
  194. 9:34acknowledge the value I hold Ella
  195. 9:37Stafford who's one of our key
  196. 9:39investigators here in the Flint water
  197. 9:41crisis team and a veteran of the
  198. 9:44Michigan State Police and in Flint the
  199. 9:46Flint guy and thank you for your year
  200. 9:49leadership Ellis very very much now I
  201. 9:52want to introduce my friend David Layton
  202. 9:55David Layton is a smart effective
  203. 9:58skilled talented prosecutor he's a
  204. 10:01friend of mine can't think of a
  205. 10:04prosecutor in the United States of
  206. 10:06America who does a better job than David
  207. 10:09Layton and he's here to he's part of our
  208. 10:11team
  209. 10:12he adds just exceptional and added depth
  210. 10:15expertise knowledge of this community as
  211. 10:18part of this team to help the citizens
  212. 10:21of families of Flint and and Michigan
  213. 10:23I'm glad to be on David's team I'm glad
  214. 10:26he's on our team David Thank You general
  215. 10:32for the kind words Attorney General
  216. 10:35shooty special counsel flood and I have
  217. 10:38spoken frequently over the past number
  218. 10:41of weeks and shared information with
  219. 10:44respect to the investigations in short
  220. 10:48our teams are cooperating to try and
  221. 10:51obtain answers to the many questions
  222. 10:53that the citizens of Flint have as to
  223. 10:57the water and how it became tainted with
  224. 10:59lead and other toxins these charges
  225. 11:03today are an attempt to begin to answer
  226. 11:06some of those questions it's certainly
  227. 11:09not the end of the investigation and I
  228. 11:11think that is a very important statement
  229. 11:15that we're all making today it's the
  230. 11:18beginning of what is shaping up to be a
  231. 11:20very extensive investigation and one
  232. 11:24that will be lengthy I anticipate
  233. 11:27additional charges in the
  234. 11:28not-too-distant future as well as the
  235. 11:31Attorney General I
  236. 11:32viewed the evidence that the Attorney
  237. 11:34General's team of lawyers and
  238. 11:36investigators has developed that support
  239. 11:38the charges that were issued this
  240. 11:40morning I believe there is probable
  241. 11:43cause to believe that in each instance
  242. 11:46as to each defendant and as to each
  243. 11:50count that the probable cause exists to
  244. 11:53believe that the listed crimes were
  245. 11:56committed and committed by the charged
  246. 11:59individuals and obviously since she
  247. 12:02signed at the magistrate judge this
  248. 12:04morning
  249. 12:05agreed as well so thank you very much
  250. 12:08for attending an attorney general Judy I
  251. 12:10look forward to our continued
  252. 12:11cooperation thank you very much David
  253. 12:17Ellis Andy and Todd and now I'm happy to
  254. 12:21answer any questions from members of the
  255. 12:23press this members the press only and
  256. 12:25and just others as long as you want so
  257. 12:26don't worry everyone will get a chance
  258. 12:27ma'am
  259. 12:31you know all I can tell you this is just
  260. 12:35the beginning it's just a start we're
  261. 12:37gonna be aggressive and as I said my
  262. 12:39statement we will leave no stone
  263. 12:41unturned we will go where the truth
  264. 12:45directs us no fear no favor nobody's
  265. 12:47above the law I've made that very clear
  266. 12:48in my five years and so I'm not we don't
  267. 12:53reveal our our strategy but more to come
  268. 12:55more to come yeah there will be I'm just
  269. 12:59saying more to come the timing timing
  270. 13:01work it out yes sir
  271. 13:03between this devastation two different
  272. 13:05ways one with LED bleats appears this
  273. 13:08all seems to be literally this is all
  274. 13:14this is all you know this we will have a
  275. 13:17very in the middle very broad an
  276. 13:19extensive investigation will leave no
  277. 13:22stone unturned no issue won't be
  278. 13:24reviewed and we'll keep you posted the
  279. 13:34truth and I'm going to provide justice
  280. 13:36and what we've done today this is about
  281. 13:38letting everybody know and Flynn and
  282. 13:40across the state that this is the road
  283. 13:43back that nobody's above the law
  284. 13:46if there's one system of justice there's
  285. 13:48not some escape patch that doesn't
  286. 13:50matter who you are you violate the law
  287. 13:51there'd be consequences and when you
  288. 13:54provide some justice and let folks know
  289. 13:55that the system here in Michigan works I
  290. 13:58think it also provides a measure of hope
  291. 14:00doesn't solve every problem but that's
  292. 14:02what we're doing yes sir
  293. 14:09no behavior there are no tar there are
  294. 14:11no targets and nobody's ruled out please
  295. 14:16I'm not gonna get into specifics of what
  296. 14:19we've done there no targets but we will
  297. 14:21nobody nobody else yes sir you know
  298. 14:28there's as I've said before so many
  299. 14:32things went so terribly and tragically
  300. 14:35wrong and in Flint and it's you know I'm
  301. 14:39not gonna single their target out any
  302. 14:41department no department is a target but
  303. 14:47everyone will everything's on the table
  304. 14:50I can't can't be any more clear I'm not
  305. 14:52gonna get into specifics you know we're
  306. 14:55will be very thorough yes sir
  307. 15:00Todd you want to comment on that yes as
  308. 15:04it relates to a couple of them I'm not
  309. 15:06going to get into the particulars we're
  310. 15:07working that out and there will be self
  311. 15:09turn-ins
  312. 15:11yes sir I've know where I get everyone
  313. 15:27I'm not gonna get into you know what
  314. 15:30other causes obviously so many things
  315. 15:34went hugely wrong and if your family's
  316. 15:36hearing in Flint you want justice we're
  317. 15:38trying to provide that today
  318. 15:43they seem to issue
  319. 15:47what indication two guys have it work
  320. 15:50want them to just can't get mine
  321. 15:54we make decisions here on truth we make
  322. 15:57decisions here on intent we make
  323. 15:58decisions on actions or emissions that
  324. 16:01people did or did not do that's what we
  325. 16:03do yes sir yes ii don't work don't you
  326. 16:08know we're just go we're just we just
  327. 16:11look for the truth and we mail yes sir
  328. 16:30we're just listen we're we're just going
  329. 16:33for the truth period there are no
  330. 16:35scapegoats here if you break the law
  331. 16:37there are consequences that's what this
  332. 16:40is all about period playing the simple
  333. 16:42yes sir you know you know the timing and
  334. 16:47that's an internal decision not at this
  335. 16:50press conference yes mr. Pluto
  336. 17:02how do I respond to mr. polluters
  337. 17:05question on that yes I'm not going to
  338. 17:08try the case in the media the tampering
  339. 17:09it says it right there on the
  340. 17:11information you can see it and tampering
  341. 17:12can be one of many ways to do so
  342. 17:14ultimately the results that went to the
  343. 17:18DEQ and all the way up to the EPA
  344. 17:21obviously were wrong so I'm not going to
  345. 17:24get into the particulars and the facts
  346. 17:27that gave me that proof and gave my
  347. 17:29investigators proof I believe beyond a
  348. 17:32reasonable doubt that it was but that
  349. 17:34being said the information is there for
  350. 17:36you to read this and this is this will
  351. 17:40this all come out in the trial - I'm
  352. 17:42sorry
  353. 17:52we are we're working through that we
  354. 17:54have orders in place to do so we are
  355. 17:57getting them on a regular basis prior to
  356. 17:59you there's right now close to 2.5
  357. 18:02emails the volume of 2.5 million 2.5
  358. 18:07million a quick reader but yeah this
  359. 18:09downriver but anyway the there's a lot
  360. 18:13and we're going through those I get you
  361. 18:16in the back yes sir you said say that
  362. 18:21again start hearing
  363. 18:33question is do you wonder how people
  364. 18:36could have done this to other human
  365. 18:38beings
  366. 18:38yeah I mean it it cost me just despair
  367. 18:43it causes me anger I think it causes
  368. 18:47most people anger and despair so and I
  369. 18:50think if you know some of you from
  370. 18:53different parts of the state different
  371. 18:55parts of the country but the things we
  372. 18:57take for granted where you may come from
  373. 19:00don't happen in Flint just the normal
  374. 19:05things when just get out of bed whether
  375. 19:07you jump out of bed or stumble out of
  376. 19:09bed mmm no matter how you do it get out
  377. 19:11of bed you wash your face have a drink
  378. 19:12of water brush your teeth take a shower
  379. 19:14that's not normal in Flint because of
  380. 19:17the problems in Flint so that causes
  381. 19:19people to spare it causes people anger
  382. 19:21cause people frustration causes me that
  383. 19:23and as a husband father and attorney
  384. 19:26general lawyer for the citizens of
  385. 19:29Michigan I'm gonna find the truth that's
  386. 19:31what I'm going to do yes sir
  387. 19:49yeah I am well as I say I'm working
  388. 19:52shoulder-to-shoulder with the Attorney
  389. 19:54General I also have a team of about
  390. 19:56seven lawyers that are doing a parallel
  391. 20:00investigation we've kind of divided up
  392. 20:03what we're doing my investigation will
  393. 20:06absolutely continue and I anticipate
  394. 20:08there will be charges coming from our
  395. 20:10side of the investigation as well but
  396. 20:12let me reiterate that I am privy to
  397. 20:16everything that the Attorney General's
  398. 20:18investigation has revealed I've reviewed
  399. 20:21it all and there certainly was probable
  400. 20:24cause evidence to support these charges
  401. 20:26that were issued this morning and I
  402. 20:27think they're appropriate this way this
  403. 20:31is a late and shooty team get it and we
  404. 20:34work together and in every way and the
  405. 20:36blue yes sir
  406. 20:47you know when we you know we filed
  407. 20:51charges we think they'll be proven and
  408. 20:53established in a court of law and then
  409. 20:55as a consequence there are prison time
  410. 21:00prison penalties if you break the law
  411. 21:02you serve time in jail period mr.
  412. 21:04kretchner when you when you make you
  413. 21:09make charges you wanna you the judge
  414. 21:12will make that decision in sentencing
  415. 21:13and I think that'll be behind bars
  416. 21:15Tim kerchner Jim
  417. 21:29you're asking to is out of your cheating
  418. 21:31there than their action I say part
  419. 21:38pardon me
  420. 21:49I'm gonna have time to come in
  421. 21:52maybe Andy as well so I'm not time you
  422. 21:54go first and Andy will follow up as if
  423. 21:57he's got to question I was right I know
  424. 22:00Jim so as it relates to the second
  425. 22:03question first and the Legionella I
  426. 22:05charged that in the alternative you see
  427. 22:08that in that that count and you see that
  428. 22:11they obstructed the investigation based
  429. 22:14on that count that's all I'm going to
  430. 22:16get into as it related to the Legionella
  431. 22:19investigation so that's all I'm gonna
  432. 22:23get into as it relates to that yeah what
  433. 22:27Jim you confuse it what what was
  434. 22:28question one
  435. 22:32yeah yeah so Jim you and Simon and D -
  436. 22:39you know you were with me in Detroit
  437. 22:40you've been through this you've been
  438. 22:41through this drill right so you kinda
  439. 22:43know where this goes
  440. 22:44you know it's kind of a he's a train at
  441. 22:46the station and the trains leaving the
  442. 22:48station it's a really nice seats on that
  443. 22:49train and there's some in the baggage
  444. 22:51compartment and you can run and try to
  445. 22:52catch the train so usually the first
  446. 22:54person on the train gets the best seat
  447. 22:56right that's gonna we'll wrap you know
  448. 22:58people want to cooperate with us I'm
  449. 23:00sure that mr. flood and his team will
  450. 23:02would love to talk to them I'd love to
  451. 23:04talk to him yeah it could be it could be
  452. 23:11throughout throughout the investigation
  453. 23:15we're not ruling anything in or out
  454. 23:18that's for sure yes sir not today sir
  455. 23:27who hasn't had a question missing all
  456. 23:32right Ellis
  457. 23:37it hurts I was born and raised here I
  458. 23:41went to school here with the
  459. 23:42northwestern I still have family to stay
  460. 23:44here I drink this water I bathed in this
  461. 23:46water I came back up here haven't been
  462. 23:49up to Flint since last Saturday visit my
  463. 23:52visit my in-laws it really does hurt it
  464. 23:54really hurts when I have friends
  465. 23:56personal close friends
  466. 24:06they live here they look at me in it
  467. 24:11they wonder if there's any truth to this
  468. 24:14investigation I hope I gave them some I
  469. 24:16told one of my friends I said you might
  470. 24:19not believe in government or the state
  471. 24:20but believe in me you know me give me a
  472. 24:23chance that's all
  473. 24:27sir
  474. 24:40yeah well you know there's none zero you
  475. 24:43know it we have we have a there's a that
  476. 24:46we have a very strong team a very strong
  477. 24:49team that represents the state of
  478. 24:52Michigan departments and agencies in the
  479. 24:54government and since the days of Frank
  480. 24:56Kelly itched in stone we've had conflict
  481. 24:59walls that have been managed by an
  482. 25:00ethics individual ethics manager second
  483. 25:04to none we have an entirely separate
  484. 25:06legal team and the integrity and
  485. 25:10reputation of Todd and Andy and Ellis
  486. 25:15and David Layton and I as you know it's
  487. 25:19it's impeccable and we're gonna go
  488. 25:21wherever the truth leads us that's the
  489. 25:24fact that demonstrated you know a month
  490. 25:28ago filed charges against two lawmakers
  491. 25:30who broke the law filed charges against
  492. 25:33a prosecutor in the capital city who got
  493. 25:35involved in human trafficking it doesn't
  494. 25:37matter who you are what you do whether
  495. 25:39you're walking the halls of power now
  496. 25:41big up you know Shachi are doesn't
  497. 25:43matter one system of justice nothing's
  498. 25:45written in Michigan excuse me yes sir
  499. 25:55the question is whether a civil
  500. 25:57penalties criminal we're not done this
  501. 25:59is just the beginning this is just a
  502. 26:00start more to come stay tuned is what I
  503. 26:02would encourage you all to do yes sir in
  504. 26:04the back and I think that would be fired
  505. 26:12just a second check don't worry I won't
  506. 26:17forget you pal who hasn't had a question
  507. 26:19please yeah then we'll go back make sure
  508. 26:23every scant yeah questions are done
  509. 26:24don't worry
  510. 26:39dad new owner Chuck response - yeah that
  511. 26:46defense didn't work in several places
  512. 26:47when you know you're ordered to do
  513. 26:49something right Nuremberg and the like
  514. 26:51so you can't be told to do something
  515. 26:53that's wrong and do it knowing that it
  516. 26:56was wrong it's a tough tough situation
  517. 27:01and I'm sure the fact says you already
  518. 27:04talked about with regards to mr. Glasgow
  519. 27:06but when you did a criminal act an overt
  520. 27:09act and you had the corrupt mind to do
  521. 27:12that act you're gonna be charged well
  522. 27:18then you would ask me to get into the
  523. 27:19facts and details of the case it's a
  524. 27:21good way of doing that but I can't and I
  525. 27:23won't
  526. 27:28the facts that we revealed and came up
  527. 27:32with as we have the investigators go
  528. 27:35through the case showed that he did
  529. 27:37things on his own accord so I'm not
  530. 27:39going to get into those facts and I'm
  531. 27:41not gonna get into what he did
  532. 27:43specifically because that would be
  533. 27:44trying my case in the media I wanted
  534. 27:50here in Genesee well I'm gonna go
  535. 27:52through other questions here yes sir no
  536. 27:59no issues no issues questions about Cara
  537. 28:02Gandhi no issues off the table no techno
  538. 28:05targets this would be broad full
  539. 28:07complete exhaustive I'm not gonna go
  540. 28:12into the detail of what we're doing
  541. 28:13yes please
  542. 28:22now so the Legionella that was the
  543. 28:26Legionnaires that was being investigated
  544. 28:27as you look to the first count there was
  545. 28:31a person from the Genesee County Health
  546. 28:33Department that was investigating and is
  547. 28:36investigating currently the Legionella
  548. 28:39break outbreak
  549. 28:41it's been shown and signed off today
  550. 28:45that that investigation was an essence
  551. 28:48obstructed and prevented with for
  552. 28:52whatever reason I'm not gonna get into
  553. 28:54that so I hope that answers your
  554. 28:56question twelve people died so we
  555. 28:59understand the significance and
  556. 29:01seriously of this now I'm working my way
  557. 29:03yes please Rick
  558. 29:25you know I I can't imagine the
  559. 29:28motivation and I I just I can't get into
  560. 29:33it as I said earlier it causes anger
  561. 29:37frustration just fear despair pessimism
  562. 29:39and we're trying to get the road back
  563. 29:41now I'm not saying it happens overnight
  564. 29:43and it's going to take some time but
  565. 29:45these actions today are an attempt to
  566. 29:48let folks know that there's one system
  567. 29:50of justice and truth is coming Chad
  568. 30:02and Andy if you need to pitch in here to
  569. 30:05you you can see it through the
  570. 30:09statements that they made and those
  571. 30:11statements obviously being false the
  572. 30:14statements they made were and again
  573. 30:20you're asking me to get into the facts
  574. 30:22of the specifics so I'm not going to do
  575. 30:26that but clearly it's kind of you know
  576. 30:30plain as the nose on your face
  577. 30:31right they did certain acts that mislead
  578. 30:34both Genesee County health officials and
  579. 30:38mislead those employees at the EPA
  580. 30:41including but not limited to mr. del
  581. 30:44Toro so as it relates to motive and
  582. 30:49those other questions it's clear on the
  583. 30:51motive and I'm not going to get into the
  584. 30:55proof on the motive right now that'll
  585. 30:58come out in court yes sir
  586. 31:02I announced on January 15th I was
  587. 31:08initiating initiating an independent
  588. 31:11investigation of this issue in Flint
  589. 31:14this health crisis and today's April
  590. 31:1720th more to come
  591. 31:19yes sir there's nobody there's no target
  592. 31:29and no one's off the table I can't be
  593. 31:30any more clear on that
  594. 31:31yes sir yes they are
  595. 31:36I talked to Bart I I talked to Barb
  596. 31:39McQuaid yesterday the United States
  597. 31:41Attorney for the Eastern District of
  598. 31:43Michigan shared with her what were you
  599. 31:45doing you know I can't speak I can't
  600. 31:49speak for barb she's a talented woman we
  601. 31:52work we work we work closely absolutely
  602. 31:55yes
  603. 32:00become bigger than original economy what
  604. 32:04the slope is
  605. 32:06well I worked on some you know the
  606. 32:10Youngstown corruption cases probably the
  607. 32:12biggest largest corruption case in the
  608. 32:14history of the FBI the quantity of
  609. 32:16Patrick the underwear bomber I've been
  610. 32:17involved in a lot of cases I think I
  611. 32:19said this in our first press conference
  612. 32:21really why did I come out of retirement
  613. 32:23you know my life is this when I
  614. 32:25questioned why are you getting back into
  615. 32:26this we have a really dear wife is the
  616. 32:29same way we have this great life because
  617. 32:31the people Flint deserve answers and I
  618. 32:34really think as a professional this is
  619. 32:37the biggest case in the history of the
  620. 32:39state of Michigan and I think the
  621. 32:42history will bear me out on that when
  622. 32:43we're done with this thing this is
  623. 32:45widespread and this is something that is
  624. 32:49investigator this is this is why you
  625. 32:50suit up you know this is why you're in
  626. 32:52the game to take on something like this
  627. 32:54all right yes sir
  628. 32:58yeah I'm not going to get into specifics
  629. 33:02it's thorough complete exhaustive
  630. 33:04independent boom yes pardon
  631. 33:14I'm not I'm not gonna get get get into
  632. 33:17that but it's broad we're not holding
  633. 33:19anything back yet whatsoever all right
  634. 33:23listen
  635. 33:24thank you very much more

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