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0:04[Music]
0:07This is Chandler.
0:10He used to have a pretty sweet life. 23
0:13years old, tall and handsome, and from a
0:16loving family. Thanks in part to his
0:19genetics, his birthplace, and his
0:22parents' finances, life afforded him
0:26endless opportunities.
0:28He was in a relationship with a smart,
0:31pretty, and supportive girlfriend who
0:33even agreed to move to a new state with
0:36him. He was buddies with his older
0:38brother, and the two of them had plenty
0:41of time for online gaming together. He
0:44still lived with his parents, but they
0:47owned a beautiful 2300 ft home in a
0:51quiet neighborhood. Besides, it would
0:55just give him that once-ina-lifetime
0:57chance to live rentree, save money, and
1:00go to school full-time. How could it
1:03have been any better?
1:06Well, how about a paid internship while
1:10his parents pay his tuition? With the
1:13little spare time that would allow, he
1:16could be a rescue diver for the police
1:19and really give back to the community.
1:22But why not shoot for the stars? Maybe
1:25even literally one day. A job at SpaceX
1:30might make that possible. The lofty
1:34salary and great benefits would
1:36certainly make it possible to plan a
1:38nice wedding and maybe start a family.
1:41Chandler was really going places.
1:45In his mind,
1:48this is a man whose full-time job was
1:52faking having a full-time job, and it
1:56would lead to murder.
1:59And this
2:00is absolutely criminal.
2:10[Music]
2:19Chandler Halderson lived in Deorest,
2:22Wisconsin with his parents Bart and
2:24Christa. At 23, that's not remarkable,
2:28especially during the global pandemic we
2:31must endure. But Chandler wasn't
2:33satisfied with unremarkable.
2:35He had an alter ego, and he was
2:38vicariously successful, talented, and in
2:42demand. He lied about his life to
2:46everyone he met, whether in the real or
2:49virtual world. He had a fake job that
2:53seems like it was more work than
2:55actually being employed. And he was
2:58offered another pretend career that was
3:00so lucrative and impressive that his
3:03very real girlfriend was willing to give
3:06up life near her family and follow him
3:09to Florida. He was going to work in the
3:11IT department of SpaceX, the Alon Musk
3:15headed company that plans to launch a
3:17rocket to Mars. Unfortunately,
3:21Chandler was no rocket scientist.
3:25For reasons unknown, he was dissatisfied
3:29with his current life. He felt compelled
3:32to lie to family and friends, and in a
3:35snowball effect, one deception led to
3:38another. Each falsehood had to be more
3:41grandiose than the last and eventually
3:44ended up with Chandler blasting off to
3:48Florida for a prestigious position that
3:51paid $80,000 a year. We're just
3:55surprised he didn't pay himself six
3:58figures. It's kind of like having a
4:00lucid dream. When you realize you're in
4:02and can take control, as long as you're
4:05making [ __ ] up, why not fly like a bird
4:08over the Grand Canyon instead of just
4:10sipping coffee and reading a newspaper?
4:14In any event,
4:16Chandler's fantasy world would end up
4:18having consequences
4:20for real people. Each morning, Chandler
4:24would wake up and pretend to go to work.
4:27With CO wreaking havoc on workplaces,
4:31many jobs that once required a commute
4:34were now done at home. This made it even
4:38easier to take imaginary college classes
4:41online. As far as Bart and Christa
4:44Halderson knew, they had been paying for
4:46their son to attend Madison Area
4:49Technical College, or MATC.
4:53In fact, Chandler's ruse of a resume
4:56boasted an associates degree in
4:59information technology. His LinkedIn
5:01page contains a snappy little synopsis
5:04of his work history, and he really laid
5:07it on thick. The majority of my
5:10experience consists of lifeguarding and
5:12technology, but it doesn't stop there. I
5:16have a strong understanding of solar
5:18panels and the installation process that
5:20goes with them. I also have experience
5:23in teaching and leadership from when I
5:26was a teacher's assistant for an
5:28installation course at a local college.
5:30In reality, the majority of his
5:33experience consisted of playing video
5:35games, facetiming his girlfriend, Cat,
5:38and pretending to be an actual person.
5:43Whenever a major event in Chandler's
5:46life was supposed to happen, something
5:49would prevent it. He was a bit like
5:52doomsday predictor Harold Camping, who
5:55famously prophesied the end of the
5:57world. When each date he divined came
6:00and went without apocalypse, there would
6:03be one excuse or another, then he'd redo
6:06the math and prognosticate a new date of
6:10doom. In much the same way, Chandler
6:14always had a ready excuse so he could
6:17hit the snooze alarm on reality and the
6:19dreaded day he'd be discovered for what
6:22he really was.
6:24Anything for a few more days, hours, or
6:27even minutes inside his cocoon of
6:30concoctions.
6:32Chandler created whatever cast of
6:34characters was called for by the
6:36situation.
6:38When he wasn't receiving a paycheck, he
6:40set up email accounts for a faux boss, a
6:44fictional human resources manager, and a
6:47non-existent payroll clerk. All these
6:50identities were whipped up to fool his
6:52parents and other people in his life,
6:54and to get people off his back when the
6:57heat was on. His forging skills, as
7:00primitive as they were, came in handy
7:03when Chandler decided he was going to
7:05work at SpaceX.
7:07And as you will find out later, these
7:10counterfeit communications played a
7:12pivotal role in his parents' demise.
7:16Then something happened that bought
7:18Chandler a little time before his SpaceX
7:22start date. His brother was hospitalized
7:25for a time and diagnosed with type 1
7:28diabetes.
7:29Of course, he could postpone the big
7:31move for his big brother. It must have
7:34given him a mild sense of relief. But
7:37one wonders if Chandler had even
7:40contemplated an endgame.
7:43As his brother began to recover, he knew
7:46that the spotlight he kept dodging was
7:48about to swing back in his direction. He
7:51took that as his cue to manufacture a
7:53new lie. One day, his parents were home
7:56when they heard a loud thud. Upon
7:59investigating, they came upon a crumpled
8:01Chandler lying on the ground. He claimed
8:04to have fallen down the stairs and
8:06knocked his noggin, if that tumble was
8:09even true.
8:11His claimed injuries were certainly not.
8:15Among the consequences of alleged head
8:18injury were partial paralysis, an
8:22aneurysm, nerve damage, and a spinal
8:26injury. Most importantly, under no
8:29circumstances would Chandler to travel,
8:32whether by car or by plane. Before too
8:36long, the doctor told him he would need
8:39a colostomy bag. That sounds like a
8:42really terrible fall.
8:45Supportive as ever, his girlfriend Cat
8:48Melinder assured him that even if he
8:50didn't get his dream job and whisk her
8:52away on fabulous trips, she still wanted
8:56to be with him.
8:58Other than the murders themselves, it's
9:00one of the most heartbreaking parts of
9:02this case. It really seemed like she was
9:05in love with Chandler. She was excited
9:08about starting a new life, but she would
9:11have been just fine staying in town.
9:15It's a rarity and true crime that we get
9:18to hear the exact moment someone's fate
9:21is sealed. That's exactly what happened.
9:25Bart Holderson was frustrated with some
9:28of the excuses made by his son. One was
9:31that Chandler could never seem to obtain
9:33a transcript from his school to show his
9:35dad. For months on end, his son gave him
9:38the runaround with false reasons as to
9:41why he never received it. So on June
9:4329th, Bart called the college and
9:46pretended to be Chandler. It saved him a
9:49lot of explaining and let him get right
9:51down to the point. He was tired of the
9:53college dropping the ball and he was
9:56going to get to the bottom of it. Thanks
9:58to Quality Assurance, that phone call
10:01was recorded. Have a listen.
10:04I'm trying to get an appointment
10:06scheduled to meet with somebody
10:09um to maybe just get a copy of a
10:12transcript and also a printed copy of a
10:15certificate that was earned and and you
10:18know other degree verification.
10:21How how do how do I get that done?
10:24Okay, for the degree, you have to
10:28download the duplicate uh diploma form
10:31and send it in with a with a check or a
10:34money order of $4 for the diploma. For
10:36the transcript, you have to go online
10:39and request it.
10:40Yeah, I tried requesting on online and
10:42we never got them and I've spent I don't
10:44know how many times doing that at eight
10:46bucks a piece. So, I'm not willing to do
10:49that again. What? What? Where? Why is
10:51not letting you request your Trump
10:54group?
10:55What is this?
10:56It's not my system. It's your system.
10:57So, don't ask me questions like that.
11:00Bart Holderson was understandably upset.
11:04But what he didn't know is that there
11:06was no transcript to request. Sure,
11:09Chandler went to a few classes a couple
11:12of years ago, but there was a debt to
11:14pay first. A cloud of confusion still
11:17hung over Bart's head. But the skies
11:20were beginning to clear.
11:22Okay. But I need to establish the
11:25problem first before I can know how to
11:27like walk you through to get it. Are you
11:29buying a computer so I can walk you
11:31through on how to get it?
11:32I'm going through the process before. I
11:35worked with um you know I had I tried to
11:38work with Daniel's fight to see if he
11:41can get through the information. I don't
11:43believe I don't know if he's with you
11:44guys anymore, but it just seems like the
11:46ball keeps getting dropped.
11:48Okay. I mean that's it's pretty easy to
11:50request a transcript.
11:52That's what I thought too and uh
11:54you just go to the
11:55hasn't come through.
11:56So we have a third party that process
11:58it. It's called credentials.
12:01Did you talk to credentials?
12:05No.
12:07Okay. So we have a third party. Uh hold
12:11on. Let me look at your account first.
12:12Okay.
12:14What is your ID number always show so I
12:17can access your account? No, I don't
12:20have that.
12:22Okay. What's your first name? Chandler.
12:25C H A N D L E R. Last name is H A L D is
12:31in David. E R S O N.
12:34Okay. So, it looks like you owe a
12:36balance.
12:38You owe a balance of 2349.
12:41That's why you can't request it.
12:44Okay.
12:50Now,
12:52if you've earned a certificate, say in
12:54that solar program,
12:59you said where does that get requested
13:01through? Have you earned a certificate?
13:04Yeah.
13:05I don't
13:06I don't see that you earned a
13:08certificate. Uh you were taking
13:13IT classes, right? I don't see that you
13:15were in a program
13:19prior to the IT.
13:22It was a solar program, too.
13:25So, I don't see that you were admitted
13:27in any program.
13:33You said they were, you know, the IT
13:36degree is in there, right? No, those are
13:38just classes
13:40like you general education classes and
13:44and then the IT classes.
13:47Does the internship from the spring show
13:50up in there?
13:53Entrance?
13:57No.
14:00Do those normally show up in there?
14:03Yes. If you if the internship is part of
14:06the curriculum, yes.
14:08Toward the end, the defeated dad began
14:11to realize his son had been lying to
14:14him. He probably didn't put all the
14:16pieces together in his mind, but he
14:19sused out the situation well enough to
14:21know he had to have a heart-to-heart
14:23talk with Chandler. It would cost him
14:26his life.
14:28Do you know do you have a an Alyssa
14:31Brandt that works in that area or
14:34anywhere in the campus? Alyssa? Yeah. A
14:37L Y S A.
14:42No.
14:46Okay.
14:48How about Does Daniel Spice still work
14:50there? S P E I T H.
14:56No, it's not. So,
15:07okay, that should do it then. Okay,
15:09thank you for your help.
15:13With the phone conversation concluded,
15:16Bart unknowingly set evil in motion when
15:20he sent this text to his son. I spoke to
15:24Omar Job. Chandler had been
15:26impersonating college employees,
15:28creating fake emails, and even talking
15:31to his own father on the phone at one
15:33point, pretending to be a school
15:35administrator. All the email addresses
15:38for people that worked at the college
15:40ended ingmail.com.
15:44Had Bart been a little more techsavvy,
15:47he might have spotted that detail and
15:49realized the communications weren't
15:50coming from the school.
15:532 days after Bart's telephonic epiphany,
15:56he sent what would be the final text to
15:59his son. I'm ready when you are. This
16:03was in reference to a meeting Bart had
16:05set up between himself, Chandler, and
16:08Omar Job. Sometime before that meeting,
16:11Chandler shot his father in the back
16:13multiple times.
16:16And so ends July 1st, 2021.
16:21On Friday, July 2nd, Christa Halderson
16:24was expected to be at work. When she
16:27didn't show up and her boss couldn't
16:29contact her, co-workers became
16:32concerned. Christa took her job very
16:36seriously and they knew she would never
16:39pull a no call, no show. Something had
16:43to be wrong.
16:43Did Christa show up for work if you know
16:46on July 5th, 2021?
16:48No, she did not. It was my day off. I
16:50was concerned that she hadn't shown up
16:52on the Friday before. I went into work
16:54to see if she had come to work and if
16:57anyone had heard from her, even though
16:58it was my day off,
17:00but again, no call, no show that day.
17:02No call, no show. I texted her a little
17:05before 9:00 when it was apparent that
17:07she hadn't shown up. Um, that text was
17:10never delivered.
17:13Then, presumably to buy himself some
17:15time for whatever one does after the
17:18stone cold slaying of his own father,
17:21Chandler texted his mother
17:24asking her to get soda on the way home
17:26from work. Her reply, "K, I can smile
17:32face."
17:34Earlier, Christa had texted her son to
17:36tell him she hoped his meeting was going
17:38well. supportive and concerned until the
17:41end. She certainly couldn't have known
17:44that shortly after walking through her
17:45front door at 5:12 p.m. requested soda
17:50in hand, she would be murdered by the
17:53son she'd loved unconditionally since
17:56birth.
17:58Why the drastic solution to the
18:00molehill-sized mountain Chandler made in
18:03his mind? Was his girlfriend next?
18:07Assuming he hadn't committed the most
18:08solvable crime in the history of police
18:11work with its extensive electronic
18:14documentation, what was his next move?
18:17Chandler Halderson was not even close to
18:20getting away with it. And as we noted at
18:23the top of the show, Chandler's actual
18:26life was going pretty well, even with
18:29the growing stress of having to keep
18:31track of his lies and create new ones.
18:34He had a lot of resources at his
18:36disposal, human and otherwise. His
18:40parents paid for his needs. His
18:42girlfriend was ready to pack up and move
18:44with him to start a new life, and he had
18:47all the time in the world to play video
18:49games and hang out with friends. Had he
18:51taken time to think it through, he might
18:54have come up with a different plan.
18:56Sure, Bart and Cristo would have been
18:59furious. Their son had been lying to
19:02them for years, doing god knows what
19:04with the money they'd been shelling out.
19:06There was no college degree or fancy
19:08job. The gathering from statements made
19:10by family and friends. They wouldn't
19:13have disowned him, written him out of
19:15the will, or even asked him to leave the
19:17family home. His girlfriend would
19:20probably have been angry and
19:21disappointed as well. But isn't it more
19:24likely than not she would have forgiven
19:26him after the heat of the situation had
19:29cooled? His friends would never let him
19:32live it down, but after the sting of
19:34embarrassment had time to fade, wouldn't
19:37they have gotten past it? Of course,
19:41Chandler could have dusted off the shame
19:44and still had a pretty nice go of it.
19:47But here we are, and there were even
19:50more stunning developments in the case.
19:53More about those later. But first, if
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20:15story.
20:17Chandler had just murdered the two
20:20people responsible for his very
20:23existence.
20:24It is difficult to imagine the thought
20:26process that brought forth this tragedy.
20:29He still had the stress of his fake
20:31life. But now he had two dead bodies to
20:34deal with. By the time he was done with
20:36the gruesome task of dismembering his
20:39parents, their blood could be found on
20:41scissors, pruning shears, hands saw
20:44blades, and an axe.
20:48When family friend Daniel Croninger
20:50stopped by the home for a welfare check,
20:53he noticed both cars were still in the
20:55driveway and he ran into a freshly
20:59showered Chandler Halderson at the side
21:01door. He told Daniel his parents went to
21:04stay in their cabin for the Fourth of
21:06July weekend. They apparently wanted to
21:09beat the traffic and left early on that
21:11Friday morning. As for Christa and
21:14Bart's car still in the driveway,
21:17Chandler said his parents carpulled with
21:19another couple, but he never did catch
21:22their names. Daniel was left concerned
21:26and confounded, but accepted the
21:28explanation such as it was. It
21:32definitely wasn't like the Holdersons to
21:34take off on a whim. But maybe they just
21:37really needed to get away and unplug.
21:39That's what they bought the cabin for
21:41after all. It was a place they could go
21:44to escape life and enjoy nature.
21:48Chandler would go on to tell a similar
21:50story to others who inquired about his
21:52parents' whereabouts
21:54because the people in Chandler land were
21:57supposed to believe his parents were
22:00away and unreachable.
22:02He had to act normal.
22:04I'm no toxicologist,
22:07but whatever chill pill Chandler took
22:09made him appear distant and detached.
22:12People would say it was like nothing was
22:15behind his eyes or that he was looking
22:18past them.
22:20He spent the Independence Day holiday
22:22with Cat and her mother on the property
22:25of her girlfriend, Crest. He knew they
22:28had a pool, and Crest thought swimming
22:30might be a good therapy for Chandler's
22:32injuries. The four of them discussed
22:35that for a while. They ate and chatted a
22:38while afterward. At about 900 p.m.,
22:42Chandler bid Cat and company a due
22:44because he was bushed. He wanted to get
22:48home to bed. But in this universe,
22:52Chandler didn't go to sleep when he got
22:54home. He had to continue the work he'd
22:58started the night before. On the day he
23:01killed his kin, he ran to a local home
23:04supply store for a murder cleanup kit.
23:08Then the cold-hearted culprit put his
23:10parents on ice and began to cut them
23:13into pieces. One by one, he incinerated
23:17them in the living room fireplace. He
23:20stayed up all night, shoving parts of
23:23his mom and dad into the fireplace they
23:26likely relaxed in front of. The family
23:29home was now a pseudo funeral home.
23:34A blazing beacon of light could be seen
23:37waxing and waning all night from a
23:40neighbor's security camera. It is
23:42thought he was unprepared for the
23:44vigorous nature of the blaze and began
23:46to panic when the flames escaped and
23:49licked the mantle, bubbling the paint
23:51above the fireplace. He likely threw
23:54water on the inferno, and a glass panel
23:57was shattered by the rapid quenching of
23:59the heat. Chandler got a nasty cut on
24:02his big toe, now leaving his own blood
24:05at the scene.
24:09It was the lie he told to his
24:11girlfriend, Cat, that was the biggest
24:13whopper. She was friends with his
24:16parents and even texted and hung out
24:18with Christa. She thought it was odd
24:21that Mrs. Halderson hadn't called or
24:23texted while at the cabin. Cat wanted to
24:26text her and asked if everything was all
24:29right, but Chandler warned that would
24:31only make his mother upset. He said both
24:35of his parents were so pissed off about
24:37the fireplace that they grounded their
24:40adult son. His girlfriend was not
24:43allowed to come over and play.
24:47Cat likely had the reaction you just
24:50did, but she didn't pursue the matter.
24:54As you will see later, Chandler has a
24:57strange effect, at least post homicide.
25:00Virtually everyone that had contact with
25:02him after the murders was, for lack of a
25:04better description,
25:06creeped out by Chandler's demeanor. If
25:09he was acting anything like in this
25:12police interview, that's understandable.
25:15Chandler has the deadpan delivery of a
25:17David Blaine, but without all the magic.
25:21After a little observation, one begins
25:24to suspect there's nothing really there
25:26at all. He's like a missing person
25:29within himself. He was trying to be calm
25:32and cool. A real Mr. Nonchalant.
25:36He nailed this. Actually, what he failed
25:39to simulate was any concern for his
25:42parents that have supposedly been
25:44missing for a week or missing since
25:47whenever he received the last fake text
25:50from them.
25:51What's truly chilling is watching this
25:55footage knowing what we know now about
25:58what Chandler did. Just a week ago, he
26:02killed his caregivers in the coldest
26:05blood, hacked and sawed them up into
26:08still clothed pieces and distributed and
26:11disposed of the remains over several
26:13days.
26:15Enjoy.
26:16You understand the rights I just read?
26:18I do. Okay. Realizing that you have
26:20these rights are you now willing to
26:22answer questions or make a statement
26:24[Music]
26:34just a yes.
26:36Yeah. So the second one so I'll just
26:38read it again. Realizing that you have
26:39these rights are you now willing to
26:40answer questions or make a statement?
26:42Oh I will make a statement.
26:44Okay so you understand them. So
26:47yesterday, uh, July 7th, I came to your
26:50house, um, where you live with your
26:52parents, Bart and Christa, um, Helerson.
26:56And, um, the reason I was there is is
26:59you had gone to the Windsor Police
27:02Department and reported them missing,
27:03right?
27:04Yes.
27:04Okay. Um, we've been following leads
27:07last night, um, working today to, you
27:10know, go through different things. Um,
27:12just trying to locate them, right? Um,
27:15so I I guess if you want to start with,
27:19let's just go back to to last Wednesday.
27:24Um, Wednesday
27:26I was with my dad.
27:29Weird.
27:30What time? Wednesday. I remember it. It
27:32was kind of a bad day.
27:34Okay. Why was it a bad day?
27:37Um,
27:38well, my mom had work so she was gone.
27:41Um,
27:43my dad and I were watching something
27:45over lunch. It was u the Wheel of
27:48Fortune
27:49and we have where normally you have the
27:52couch like with our back facing our the
27:55table we sat at at the end of you coming
27:58downstairs or upstairs
27:59downstairs that room with the TV.
28:02I tossed the ball and I smashed the
28:06glass.
28:08Okay. with the dog. The dog's help uh
28:11that yeah set my dad off and we tried to
28:16clean it up.
28:20I don't know about him, but I got
28:21injured.
28:23Um but he was mad. He didn't really talk
28:27to me too much that day. So you guys are
28:30were downstairs. Um just to to touch
28:33back on that quick. to the couch. So,
28:35yesterday when we were down in your
28:37basement, the couches were in a bed. I
28:40He helped me put them in a bed before.
28:43Yeah. Thursday. But they put it into a
28:46bed so I could sleep here in the
28:48bathroom and the dogs sleep in that
28:50floor. So,
28:51okay.
28:52They'll be a lot better if they're
28:54sleeping on that floor.
28:55Downstairs floor.
28:56Yeah.
28:57Just cooler for him or something.
28:59Kind of probably.
29:00Okay.
29:02It's this gross hairy tennis ball that
29:05Rizzo loves.
29:07Just like a green tennis ball, like a
29:08normal
29:09Yeah.
29:10ball. Okay.
29:10The with the squeaker, not not a tennis
29:13racket.
29:14Chandler certainly delivers a lot of
29:17details about irrelevant things, but
29:20when it comes to anything to do with his
29:22parents, he glosses over things as
29:24quickly as possible.
29:26Um, it's Thursday morning.
29:29[Music]
29:30I wake up
29:36What time?
29:386:00.
29:39Okay. Um, help my mom out getting ready
29:44in the morning. She She left for work at
29:467:30.
29:49I got her
29:52whatever she had to do.
29:59those meaningless tasks like just daily
30:04like pillowcase changes and sheet
30:07changes and stuff like that. You know,
30:09in the morning we went to go do our own
30:12things. I went back to a little bit more
30:15job searching. This time I branched into
30:18Forest instead of just Windsor working.
30:21He went back to work. We planned
30:25on
30:32something went wrong.
30:34[Music]
30:36Oh, we were
30:45I don't know. Something went well for
30:46him. So that's all. Um
30:52then we just kind of hung out and my mom
30:54gets home and I uh start the I start
30:59shrimp scampy for my dad cuz that's what
31:01he wanted but we didn't have shrimp so I
31:04I made shrimpless scampy.
31:07That's that's where they told me while
31:09we were eating it they they were going
31:11to go with their friends and I was like
31:13oh cool.
31:16Um, well,
31:18and they said they were going to the
31:20cabin.
31:21Yeah, we're going up north. Up north is
31:23very hard to
31:25Who said that? Mom or dad?
31:28My My dad doesn't talk about eats.
31:30Okay.
31:30Okay. Friday.
31:32Yep.
31:33I with cat Friday night, I believe.
31:36What' you do Friday during the day?
31:39Oh, yeah. It's like backwards. Um,
31:46I kind of [ __ ] the day where I I play
31:48video games.
31:49Okay. Parents are gone. Why not, right?
31:53Yeah. I didn't do anything that I should
31:55have. I should have been cleaning and
31:57all of that. The morning I'm a little
32:00worried about my family.
32:03I think I called my mom.
32:06Oh, throughout I've called. I I don't
32:08know the times though.
32:12throughout the weekend, I think. But I
32:14call my mom I believe
32:16in the morning or along those lines and
32:19I get a text from her. All right. So
32:21once the cat saw Sunday to eat, what
32:23time do you think he went over there?
32:28Food at 3:30 is what they said. So about
32:313 3:30 you went over to Cats. Oh, I was
32:35at Cats well before. I was at their
32:37noon. Okay. There's like a little pool
32:41up at the press's house.
32:43Oh,
32:44she's been helping me like my walking
32:46and everything and they get me there.
32:49Um
32:51and then we go to dance.
32:53Okay.
32:54Um for the fireworks, he asked us to
32:56come by 8:30.
32:58[Music]
33:00Um, for some reason I I was trying to
33:02leave, but
33:05I was making a a joke about it that we
33:08we're going to be late. Like stuff like
33:10that. Goofy crap. Uh, I drove to dance.
33:13Okay. Which car were you guys in?
33:15My dad's Subaru. It's a blue.
33:18The one in the garage.
33:20Yeah. And then I was like, "Okay, we
33:22have to go home for the dogs." So, we
33:24went and that was pushing
33:309:30, 9:45. Um,
33:34we get to bed upstairs in my room. Then
33:37it's Monday morning.
33:39Cat goes to work
33:427:50ish,
33:44maybe earlier. Well, at the end of the
33:46day on Monday,
33:49I did go
33:51for the afternoon, I did go to the farm
33:55to talk to Crest and Cat's mom.
33:59I told him what's happening with my
34:01health because I had the appointment at
34:032.
34:04Did you go to the farm before or after?
34:07Because I told them what happened to me
34:09and I told them the legs are probably
34:12going to be permanent and the headaches
34:15should be fixed after the hemorrhage is
34:18cleared a little bit. Then I go up
34:21to have, you know, break down by their
34:25shed and they go swimming. I actually
34:29cried.
34:30[Music]
34:32Started kicking grass,
34:35just doing the toddler tantrum [ __ ] Um,
34:39then I
34:41hopped in the water with them.
34:42Okay.
34:43It was too late. I was in the water and
34:46you realized Crest didn't have a top and
34:49that was uncomfortable.
34:51But I talked to them more and that's
34:53when she brought up the housing
34:54situation, how she doesn't like how my
34:57parents like
35:00are. What are we having a breakdown
35:01about?
35:04You ever have your legs? Yeah. No, it's
35:08just okay.
35:11I don't even know if they're done eating
35:13like as bad as they they can be yet. So
35:16that's a
35:17that's not fun.
35:18And I think you were telling me last
35:20night it was it's a symptom of a
35:21concussion, right?
35:22So is that right?
35:23That's not it. That's a It's a symptom
35:25of nerve damage from the hit my spine.
35:28So permanent.
35:29Okay, I understand that. But then
35:31they're like, "Well, appreciate you
35:34stopping by." So I I I head out. And I
35:37go, it was Monday afternoon. I go to
35:41dinner at Cat Cat's house on the east
35:44side. I think we just eat and puddle a
35:48little bit.
35:49Did he call or No, no word. My mom I
35:53don't know if he called or I think he
35:55just contacted. That's what I can think
35:57of.
35:57Reached out.
35:58Yeah, he reached out.
36:00Then I'm like, "Oh, it's Tuesday
36:01morning. They should be here."
36:03Did your dad get injured at all when the
36:05glass broke? Did he step on any?
36:07He sent me up, but I I don't doubt it.
36:12And he gets mad. He's not thinking.
36:14So, we don't know if your dad got hurt.
36:17No.
36:17Okay.
36:18No, but my best guess is that guy
36:22reached in the fireplace and cut off his
36:24arm or something. I don't know.
36:28Is there any reason to believe mom or
36:30dad's blood would be somewhere in the
36:33house? Have they been injured at all
36:35that you're aware of?
36:37Oh, my dad scratches his psoriasis till
36:40he like gushes blood.
36:42Okay. Gushing. Describe gushing to me.
36:46Enough to run down your leg. Like um
36:49like cover your leg, I suppose. Like he
36:52has it on his knee.
36:54So when he does this, it just like
36:58drips down.
37:00I ask him to stop, but he doesn't do it
37:02when he's stressed out. Yeah,
37:04he just kind of like gets his tick.
37:07Yeah, probably itches.
37:08My mom's blood
37:11dumb just from her bloody noses she gets
37:14sometimes when she wakes up. That's why
37:16we've been doing the dehumidifi or
37:19humidifier and dehumidifiers.
37:22Yeah, probably downstairs you get the
37:25we have to do multiple of them. But she
37:28can't be in the living room too long cuz
37:30that's a dehumidifier. You know, if she
37:32does, her nose gets bad.
37:36Not like a regular one. She gets it bad.
37:41Um,
37:42but she either goes to the kitchen to
37:45fix it, her vanity or the bathroom. Um,
37:48when she has bloody noses or we talking
37:50and it's just spraying around. Is it
37:52just
37:53Well, it's not squirting, but it's just
37:54dripping.
37:55She doesn't notice it.
37:57Okay.
37:57Cuz she can't feel it anymore. Okay. We
38:00got all the background, I think. Right.
38:02Yeah, I think so.
38:03So, I think it's time we start talking
38:06about what happened to your parents,
38:08like the truthful version.
38:10Okay.
38:11Okay.
38:12So, we have like 20 pages of writing.
38:15We're going to start with a clean white
38:17piece of paper for you to start telling
38:18the truth. Okay?
38:19Why? Because listen, listen to me. This
38:21is the only chance you're going to have
38:23to tell us the truth. Okay? Okay? What
38:26we listen? I'm I can't tell you what we
38:29know, but we know you're not telling us
38:30the truth. We know your parents are no
38:32longer with us. Okay? And we know the
38:35reason why.
38:37Okay? You need to tell the truth.
38:38There's Listen, listen. You need to tell
38:41the truth about what happened and just
38:43tell us why it happened. Okay? If
38:47something happened, if you were
38:48defending yourself or if you just got
38:50fed up with stuff, you need to tell us
38:52the truth. Okay? This is your chance to
38:55tell us why. Okay. I'm not BSing you.
39:00Okay.
39:05So, can we do that?
39:06Okay. Okay. Um,
39:08[Music]
39:15what happened?
39:17Okay. Can you know what happened? We're
39:20not going to tell you what happened. You
39:22know what happened. You were there when
39:23it happened.
39:25We're not BSing you. Okay.
39:27When it happened, you know,
39:31we know more
39:33than you think we know.
39:34I understand.
39:37There's people that have told us things.
39:38We have We have evidence. We have proof
39:41that more has happened. Okay.
39:45So, your parents never made it to the
39:47cabinet. I think you know that.
39:53I just have a You want to stand up? This
39:55one right over here for me.
39:58Get them in your pockets at all. Just
40:04[Music]
40:08one piece of the puzzle was put in place
40:11one month earlier
40:13when a friend Chandler met through the
40:15online firsterson shooter Call of Duty,
40:18Andrew Smith, visited the Holderson
40:21home. He drove from Kansas. Although
40:24when they first met, Smith was stationed
40:26with the US Army in Germany. He's a
40:29colorful character and he didn't hold
40:32back on the stand.
40:34Andrew gifted the Russian SKS rifle to
40:37his friend, but that's where his
40:40responsibility ended, as you'll hear in
40:44his testimony.
40:45Um, had you ever been to Wisconsin
40:47before?
40:47No, sir.
40:48Okay. Um,
40:50it's a long drive up here.
40:52No [ __ ] I'm
40:54Yes, sir.
40:55It's okay. Everyone slips up. We've
40:57shown you what's been marked. Let's talk
40:59a little bit about, I guess, that time
41:00period in which you met Mr. Halderson.
41:02Uh, you said you were stationed over in
41:03Germany.
41:04Yes, sir.
41:04Uh, were you in the military?
41:05Yes, sir.
41:06What branch?
41:07Army, sir.
41:08Uh, and, uh, where in Germany were you
41:10stationed?
41:10Ansbach, sir.
41:12And, um, whereabout is that?
41:15Middle of BF, sir.
41:18Uh, and how did you meet someone who
41:20lived here in Wisconsin while you were
41:22in Germany?
41:22Playing video games on Arma 3 server,
41:24sir.
41:25About what time was this? What year was
41:27this?
41:28I want to say it was 2019 or 2018. It
41:31was shortly after my son was born, sir.
41:33Okay.
41:34And, uh, how often, if you just had to
41:36give us a general overview, how often
41:38would you play video games with Chandler
41:40online?
41:40Almost every day, sir. Okay.
41:41And would you be talking and
41:43communicating during that time period?
41:44Yes, sir. When you came back to the
41:46United States, what state did you move
41:47to or live in?
41:48Kansas, sir.
41:49Is that your home?
41:50For now.
41:51Okay.
41:52At some point, you decided to come visit
41:54Chandler.
41:55Yes, sir.
41:56What abouts was that?
41:57Sometime during uh I think it was June,
41:59sir.
42:00Of this past year.
42:01Yes.
42:02When you visited Wisconsin to see
42:03Chandler, you brought him a gift?
42:05Yes, sir.
42:05What did you bring him?
42:06I brought him a 20-in barrel SKS.
42:11Um, you know what that document is? Yes,
42:14sir. It's a FL transfer paperwork, sir.
42:17And you've been saying the the phrase
42:18FFL, correct?
42:20Yes.
42:20What does that mean?
42:21That's a federal firearms license
42:22holder.
42:22Meaning someone who's licensed to to
42:24sell firearms and fills out paperwork
42:26and does the correct background checks
42:28and such.
42:28Um, did you document in any way
42:30transferring that gun to him?
42:31Yes, sir.
42:32How did you choose? Did you fill out
42:33paperwork like this?
42:34I took his uh photo ID that the state
42:36issued him and I took it right next to
42:38the serial number annotating that this
42:39was me giving this weapon to this
42:41individual. So that way if anything like
42:43this would occur that it wouldn't
42:46necessarily come back to me.
42:47How did Chandler react when you gave him
42:49the gun?
42:50Oh, he was happy.
42:51What do you mean about how do you know
42:52he was happy or how do you how do you
42:53know that?
42:54Cuz he had a big smile on his face when
42:55I had given it to him as a gift. Okay.
42:58Um what did you do with what did
43:00Chandler do with the gun? Were you able
43:01to figure out where he put it in the
43:03house?
43:03Yeah, he had initially so if you would
43:05walk down the flight of stairs in the
43:06basement, you would look left. there was
43:07like a little wood pile and he had stuck
43:09it in the middle section there because
43:11it was I understood that they might not
43:13be happy about having this firearm. So,
43:16but he had told me he was going to be
43:17moving soon to do a career in SpaceX in
43:20Florida. So, he was just going to take
43:22it with him and move out there with it.
43:24Um, at some point the Chandler suffered
43:26some sort of injury.
43:27Yes, sir. As far as I know, he went and
43:29uh
43:31he went down the stairs and had fell
43:33somehow and screwed up his head or his
43:36neck.
43:38And did that injury, according to
43:39Chandler, did that end up impacting his
43:41job or anything like that?
43:42As far as I knew, he
43:45So, it seemed that because of the
43:47injury, he wasn't going to be able to
43:48take a flight out to Florida to do this
43:50SpaceX thing.
43:52But other than that, he didn't really
43:54explain what was wrong, just that he
43:57wasn't going to be able to fly out there
43:58and he wasn't able to look at computer
44:00screens or anything like that with so
44:03much blur on the screen or motion blur.
44:05Did Chandler tell you anything about the
44:07head injury in terms of specifics about
44:08what was going to happen or how?
44:10He told me that he would have to wear a
44:12neck brace and that they were supposed
44:13to drill a hole in his head or something
44:15like that to alleviate some sort of
44:16pressure.
44:17Did you talk to Chandler about his
44:19parents being missing?
44:20Yes, sir.
44:20Um, tell me about those conversations.
44:23Well, day one when he told us because he
44:25had told me and my friend that he's
44:27friends with that I visited when I was
44:29down in Texas, he told us that they had
44:32been missing. So, we both suggested to
44:34him that, hey, if this is really a big
44:36concern for you, you might want to
44:37contact law enforcement immediately.
44:39Okay. What did Chandler say to that?
44:41He said, well, they might they might
44:42turn up, so I'll just wait a few days.
44:44And
44:46so, it goes.
44:47After that conversation, do you recall
44:48having any other conversations with
44:50Chandler about his parents being
44:51missing?
44:51Uh, just think talking about how or
44:54where they could have end up at or what
44:57was going on with the situation? Was
44:59Chandler expressing worry to you or that
45:01he was concerned?
45:02He seemed concerned. Yes. Okay.
45:04Um, you've been cooperative with law
45:06enforcement the whole time, haven't you?
45:08I'm not going to be a broken piece of
45:09glass, sir.
45:10Sure. Uh, meaning you'll help if you
45:12need to.
45:13Yes.
45:13Okay. Um, the police in fact visited you
45:16down in your where you live at some
45:18point.
45:18Yes, sir.
45:19Um, you when asked have given them
45:22access to things like bank records or
45:24your phone and things of that sort.
45:26Yes, sir.
45:26And you've provided photographs whenever
45:28you could. Yes, sir.
45:29Why was that important to you to assist?
45:31Well, to put it bluntly, sir, I served
45:34in the army, and I'm not going to get
45:35[ __ ] for something that I didn't do.
45:38The verdict form on count one, as signed
45:40by the presiding juror and dated today,
45:43reads, "We, the jury, find the
45:44defendant, Chandler M. Halderson, guilty
45:47of first-degree intentional homicide as
45:49to Barde Halderson as charged in count
45:52one of the amended information. We, the
45:54jury, find the defendant, Chandler M.
45:56Halderson guilty of providing false
45:58information about a missing person as to
46:00Bart A. Halderson as charged in count
46:03two of the amended information. We the
46:05jury find the defendant Chandler M.
46:07Halderson guilty of mutilating a corpse
46:10as to Bart A. Halderson as charged in
46:12count three of the amended information.
46:15Guilty of hiding a corpse as to Bart A.
46:17Halderson as charged in count four. We
46:20the jury find the defendant Chandler M.
46:23Halderson guilty of firstdegree
46:25intentional homicide as to Christa R.
46:27Halderson as charged in count five of
46:30the amended information. Guilty of
46:32providing false information about a
46:34missing person. Guilty of mutilating a
46:36corpse as to Christa R. Halderson.
46:39Guilty of hiding a corpse as to Christa
46:42R. Halderson as charged in count 8 of
46:45the amended information.
46:48Heat. Heat. Heat.
46:50[Music]
46:59Let the darkness come alive.
47:03I swear that I
47:06turn around.
47:09We found a perfect system
47:16to replace
47:19all our worn
47:21[Music]

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