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0:21all right um so we're just gonna talk to
0:23you a little bit more okay
0:25um
0:33all right just so you know I'm gonna
0:35record stuff okay I'm just also remember
0:37everything and
0:39picks up everything that we talk about
0:45all right
0:47um so Brian trunk detected Dane County
0:49Sheriff's Office we spoke yesterday yeah
0:51um yep I went through middle initial Jam
0:54Amazon Michael Michael and then your
0:57birthday
0:583 15
1:011998. got it and your cell phone I
1:04already have we've been talking on that
1:06um
1:08so obviously we're we're here we want to
1:11talk a little bit about uh your parents
1:14going missing right Kristen Bart
1:17um
1:18before we get started
1:20just because you're up here okay so I'm
1:22just going to read you your
1:23constitutional rights okay so this is
1:25the Dane County issued card that they
1:27give us
1:29um so I'll just read them to you right
1:30off the card okay uh you have the right
1:32to remain silent anything you say can
1:35and will be used against you in a court
1:36of law you have the right to consult
1:38with a lawyer before questioning and to
1:40have a lawyer present with you during
1:41questioning if you cannot afford to hire
1:43a lawyer one will be appointed to
1:45represent you a public expense before
1:47during any questioning if you so wish if
1:50you decide to answer questions now
1:51without a lawyer present you have the
1:53right to stop the question and remain
1:54silent at any time you wish and the
1:57right to ask for and have a lawyer at
1:58any time you wish including during The
2:00Question
2:01do you understand the rights I just
2:03regularly I do okay realizing that you
2:05have these rights or you're not willing
2:07to answer questions or make a statement
2:19just get a yes right yeah so the second
2:22one okay so I'll just read it again
2:23realizing that you have these rights or
2:25you're not willing to answer questions
2:26or make a statement oh I will make a
2:28statement okay
2:30if you understand them
2:31all right could I have the card so I
2:34could read it I missed some
2:36um I'm sorry I'm
2:47right to remain silent anything you say
2:50can and will be used against unicorn law
2:52you have the right to consult with a
2:54lawyer before questioning and to have a
2:56lawyer present with you during question
2:57if you cannot afford to hire a lawyer
3:00one will be appointed to represent you
3:02at public expense before or during any
3:04questioning if you so wish if you decide
3:06to answer questions now without a lawyer
3:08present you have the right to stop the
3:10question and remain silent and anytime
3:12you wish and the right to ask for and
3:14have a lawyer at any time you wish
3:15including during The Question
3:17so then the only two questions I asked
3:19were do you understand yeah I understand
3:21and I am willing to make a statement
3:24okay perfect
3:26all right
3:27um so like like we already said I talked
3:30to you yesterday
3:31um
3:32so today is July 8th uh it's about 5 11
3:35now we started talking at 508.
3:38um so yesterday uh July 7th I came to
3:41your house where you live with your
3:43parents Bart and Krista
3:46helderson and
3:49um the reason I was there is is you had
3:51gone to the Windsor Police Department
3:53and reported them missing right yes okay
3:57um I would then go to the department I
3:59went to the like office break room area
4:02in the same building
4:04and then I think it's an extent of the
4:06city hall okay
4:09but nonetheless it would definitely came
4:10and spoke to you okay
4:13um
4:14so you reported your parents missing we
4:16got some information for me yesterday
4:19um we've been following leads last night
4:22um working today to you know go through
4:24different things so I'm just trying to
4:26locate them right
4:28um
4:29so I I guess if you want to start with
4:33let's just go back to to last Wednesday
4:39I was with my dad
4:42we what time Wednesday I remember it it
4:46was kind of a bad day okay why was it a
4:49bad day
4:51um
4:52well my mom had work so she was gone
4:56um
4:56my dad and I were watching something
4:59over lunch it was uh The Wheel of
5:02Fortune
5:03and we have we're normally have the
5:06couch
5:07like for their back facing or the table
5:09we set it at the end of you coming
5:11downstairs downstairs okay bedroom with
5:15the TV I tossed the ball
5:18and I smashed the glass
5:22okay where's the dog it does so uh that
5:26set my dad off
5:29and we tried to clean it up
5:33okay I don't know about him but I got
5:35injured
5:37um but
5:38he was mad he didn't really talk to me
5:41too much that day
5:45and my mom got home at five I believe
5:48I
5:50that's her normal 5 20 to 5 30.
5:54what time does she work you know 7 30 is
5:57when she leaves I don't know her hours
5:59but I know when she leaves at 7 30.
6:02and then
6:04all the way up till five and she she
6:07comes home at 5 25 30.
6:10did she come home about 5 25 30 that day
6:14I believe so yeah okay
6:21so you guys are we're downstairs
6:24um just to touch back on that quick so
6:26the coach so yesterday when we were down
6:28in your basement the couches were in a
6:31bed I he helped me put him in a bag
6:35on Thursday but they put it into a bed
6:38so I could sleep in the bathroom and the
6:40dog sleep in that floor so okay they'll
6:44be a lot better if they're sleeping on
6:46that floor downstairs floor yeah just
6:48cooler for them or something
6:51okay probably okay
6:53all right so you were tossing a ball
6:55what type of ball was it
6:58it's gross hairy tennis ball Rizzo loves
7:02all right just like a green tennis ball
7:04like a normal yeah okay go with the
7:06squeaker not not like a tennis
7:08racquetball but they don't show us my
7:11dog chews those out of the any tennis
7:13ball they just chew the squeakers out
7:14and then they don't play with them
7:15anymore
7:16um all right so you're just tossing that
7:18around uh broke the fireplace glass uh
7:21you said you were injured what type of
7:22injury I got a pretty deep hole in my
7:25foot last night Mary looked at it and
7:28she said the reason it keeps bleeding is
7:30because there's glass in it oh that's
7:32the you showed us your toes okay
7:36yes yeah
7:38okay yeah so
7:42that one it could be infected is what
7:45she's thinking but Neosporin has been
7:47helping okay good
7:50um keeping it clean and stuff
7:53the best you can I I don't know how I
7:56guess yeah um
7:57okay
7:58uh one site oh Wednesday back to
8:00Wednesday yes I got all the glass out of
8:02the dog's hair
8:04um she didn't sustain any injuries good
8:08nothing even on her nose she got it with
8:11her
8:12phone I believe
8:15um
8:18for class dog that was roughly around
8:22two
8:24and then the rest he didn't really talk
8:27to me
8:28I went back to doing
8:30like a job search kind of just
8:34[ __ ] my day away
8:36okay games YouTube Maybe
8:40that's when I came across one of the
8:42jobs I liked
8:44um but then five o'clock rolled up by
8:46and we mom came home
8:49um dinner
8:52what do you guys have Wednesday night
8:54I couldn't tell you okay
8:58who made it
9:00I think it was probably just stuffed in
9:03the fridge I think we all did our own
9:06thing again sure
9:10by the way I detected at my house since
9:12Something's Happened
9:14and while we were leaving people were
9:16going inside is fair warrant for my
9:19house
9:20should there be no I'm just wondering
9:23it's okay
9:24as far as I know they were at your house
9:27and they were going to be there talking
9:30to you to ask if you would come up here
9:32and talk yeah
9:34um officer Haley
9:37just like walked pretty much in to the
9:40gate you know the gate on the outside
9:42a lot of famous I was wondering
9:45was that when you were getting your
9:46wallet uh no we were we were I was in
9:50the car waiting to leave I was just
9:51wondering is everything's okay and she
9:54said Something's Happened
9:56okay and we need to go down
9:59I'll find out what that's about oh
10:03I'm not sure
10:05all right so so Wednesday night mom
10:07comes home dad was angry was was he
10:10yelling or what was how would you
10:13describe dad being angry it was
10:17if you if you would yell if you said
10:20something to him I guess if you talk to
10:23him if you give him his space
10:24he'll be okay
10:27so on Wednesday night Wednesday
10:32that's how we did just give him the
10:34space he he won't yell or do anything
10:37okay
10:39that's all we had to do we just
10:42plan I went to clean uh do some laundry
10:47uh make our beds
10:51stuff like that
10:53who is we my okay
10:59that was Wednesday night yeah we had an
11:02early night there was no TV that night
11:06yeah
11:07um
11:09what time did your parents go to bed
11:11Wednesday night do you think
11:13I was in bed at 85 yeah okay
11:19yeah
11:21um
11:24I couldn't tell you when they went to
11:26bed
11:26okay no worries
11:28and you were downstairs that's where
11:30you've been sleeping you told me last
11:31night I was in my room Wednesday
11:33upstairs okay
11:41gotcha so in the bedroom upstairs
11:45and then you you slip downstairs
11:49why have you been sleeping downstairs
11:50again you told me last night the
11:52bathroom's right I need to be close
11:54these stairs I I can't see too well in
11:56the parking yeah
12:01and just like last night I'm doubting
12:03some Knowles quit you know it doesn't
12:05mean one thing is more important than
12:06the other it just means that I need to
12:08remember stuff and sometimes yeah
12:12all right so did you sleep with their
12:14door closed that night or open oh yeah I
12:16always have a closed closed door yeah
12:17that makes sense
12:21a little bit after Karen's good
12:24what were they arguing about
12:26probably would set my dad off that day
12:28with glass okay
12:31um us not having food ready
12:34and stuff like that we I mean we just
12:36microwave
12:38whatever is in the fridge I suppose yeah
12:42who was upset about that
12:44was okay he usually doesn't like that he
12:48likes uh when we cook okay
12:53does he ever click
12:55I haven't seen him cook oh he grills he
12:58likes the grill he grilled on Thursday
13:02all right I think I told one officer
13:06with a green egg
13:08she got
13:09um
13:10it makes terrible food but
13:13yeah Dad does yeah oh the Green Egg oh
13:17the Green Egg that's like a gorilla or
13:19something yeah it's insulated and makes
13:21everything Smoky okay
13:25um
13:26it's Thursday morning
13:29I wake up
13:34what time you think
13:36six okay dogs
13:39we talked about that yesterday 6am is
13:41kind of your deal right six am yeah
13:43internal clock now
13:45yeah
13:47thanks for a while
13:53I don't have any breakfast
13:56so
13:57so I kind of just stay in my room on my
13:59phone
14:01help my mom out getting ready
14:05in the morning she she left for work at
14:087 30.
14:10around her
14:13whatever she had to do
14:20it was
14:21me it was past like just daily
14:25like pillowcase changes
14:28she changes stuff like that you know in
14:31the morning
14:32before work yeah
14:35that's what we always do
14:40and she's gone
14:46my dad starts to grill around 8 39 in
14:51the morning but yeah I could get the
14:53temperature right
14:57we'll see working from home that day or
14:59yes
15:02we
15:04create the grill nothing really happened
15:07between us you kind of either we're
15:09outside with the dogs from the lighting
15:12of the grill
15:14him going in taking a couple calls
15:17and now and then your emails or
15:19something but we just kind of watched
15:21the grill and waited to get it set
15:23steady head
15:24hamburgers for 350-ish
15:29but then
15:33so you know we just kind of waited
15:36for the burgers
15:39um
15:40and then we had we ate noon noon 30.
15:5012 30 sorry sure
15:53um
15:54then we went inside and
15:57our TV show again Wheel of Fortune it
16:00was on for rounding time for lunch
16:03or was it Family Feud Family Feud was
16:07Thursday
16:09Family Feud
16:10um
16:12where'd you guys watch that downstairs
16:14okay
16:16did you guys have a TV upstairs I don't
16:18remember no no okay
16:28no sorry I'm really trying to learn
16:30memory um this one
16:33then yeah
16:35we went to go do our own things I went
16:38back to
16:39a little bit more job searching this
16:41time I branched into the forest instead
16:43of just Windsor okay
16:45he went back to work
16:47we planned
16:49on
16:57something went well
17:01we were
17:09I don't know something went well for him
17:12so that's all
17:16um
17:18and we were hanging out again
17:20in my mod texts I
17:29um I I believe I text her everything's
17:32going well uh his phone died my dad
17:35he didn't
17:37he's kind of like charged it put on the
17:40dock
17:41I left it
17:45um
17:46then we just kind of hung out and my mom
17:48gets home and I start the
17:51I start shrimp scampi for my dad because
17:55that's what he wanted but we didn't have
17:57shrimp so I made shrimpless scampi
18:02um
18:06that's that's where they told me while
18:09we were eating it they were gonna go
18:11with their friends and I was like oh
18:13cool
18:16um well and they said they were going
18:19cabin
18:20because we're going up north okay
18:24who said that Mom or Dad Ma
18:27my dad doesn't talk about you okay
18:30um
18:31so very uh Thursday dinner up north of
18:35the cabin my dad says I'll need a set
18:37for pipe repair
18:39and gas
18:41so I'm like all right
18:44I grabbed the pipe repair stuff from his
18:48um
18:49Plumbing chest they're plumbing plumbing
18:51box it's like a tote of what you need
18:54for pipe repair
19:00and to
19:03whatever Jerry cans I I can't remember
19:06the amount
19:08but they're red with the same theme
19:11aslas
19:13got those squared away they had most of
19:16their duffels already kept at that point
19:19and we all just started bringing them
19:21down to the mud room with the shoes yeah
19:25by the garage before you showed me him
19:30um
19:32after that we watched uh
19:42is a Netflix original
19:44um you know seven underground with the
19:47thrill seeking like
19:51it's like they they faint their deaths
19:53and they they fly airplanes and
19:56um big like fight of evil of the World
20:00by being ghosts
20:03I don't think I've seen that one yet
20:06who was watching that three of us all
20:08three of you okay all three and that put
20:11it at nine they had their drinks
20:16um
20:18went to my computer my computer was at
20:21that that black table we said it sure so
20:24good stuff um
20:29played played a video game called Power
20:31cough
20:32for until midnight
20:36well after midnight maybe even
20:39and lose track of time and my parents by
20:43then were asleep
20:44we got the teeth brush and everything
20:49[Music]
20:49um
20:51then I got I got upstairs
20:56that was Thursday yeah so I did
20:59so we got the bed all set before the
21:01before we played tarkov
21:03and that's when I crawled into bed from
21:07the black table
21:09so after our movie we set up my my couch
21:12bed and the pillows for the girls
21:16who helped to set the bed up my bad dead
21:19okay this is when he was leaving and I
21:21would leave that
21:25um
21:26Friday morning
21:29I woke up they had left with the stuff
21:33it was all set out I remembered the gas
21:39um I found the the
21:42folding chairs that they wanted to bring
21:45but they never brought them I'm assuming
21:48a big
21:51so I put those away
21:53um
21:58it was Friday morning I go upstairs
22:01do the dog or feed the dogs
22:05it was around six-ish about 6 15 when I
22:08woke up I was a little late that day
22:10since 15 correct okay
22:13I guess so when I looked at my phone
22:18dogs
22:21saw my Mars note the insurance for my
22:25appointment
22:29ate whatever's on the counter I think it
22:32was cornbread
22:39where was the note from your mom that
22:41was on the kitchen like there's a
22:44peninsula yeah with the insurance
22:46stacked up but I I moved it to the table
22:49okay
22:53and then those Insurance cars were there
22:55also that we saw yesterday yeah okay
22:59um I don't think she knew which one I
23:00would need
23:02but I
23:03don't know
23:05um
23:12okay Friday yeah
23:15with cat Friday night I believe what'd
23:18you do Friday during the day
23:20oh okay it's like backwards
23:23um
23:26foreign
23:33s are gone why not right yeah I didn't
23:36do didn't do anything that I should have
23:38I should have been cleaning and all that
23:43house seemed pretty clean
23:45when I was there you see all the dog
23:47hair that that's got to be gone it comes
23:49along with it right yeah
23:53all right so Friday during the day I
23:55just played video games kind of yeah
23:57then after work I believe
24:00that was a big cat came over after whose
24:03work cat she's on her work I was her
24:07when she's okay she was off
24:09I believe she came over
24:15um
24:19she is done around five okay cat came at
24:21five
24:22I don't think she went straight here
24:25after
24:26yeah coming over
24:28um
24:29could have been later like six maybe
24:30give her time for like getting clothes
24:34um
24:42it's just after work do you think for
24:44sure again
24:45she works downtown Middleton Farm Tech
24:49okay
24:50she
24:51um I believe she stayed with me on that
24:54couch that night
24:58so she spent the night over
25:00yeah
25:01[Music]
25:07you guys both slept in the couch
25:09downstairs yeah
25:13[Music]
25:13um
25:14would you do before yeah
25:22that might have been my own knife I
25:24might be wrong I'm wrong okay I think I
25:26spent that night alone I just had a game
25:28online I was in my friends
25:33I said Saturday night
25:35I'm so sorry guys no worries man
25:38so one night
25:40I gained alone all night
25:43one night cat spin the night on the
25:47couch
25:48oh and Sunday she spent the night in my
25:51bed with me she helped me out
25:54Sunday night I know that because
25:57she didn't want to spend another night
25:59on the couch bed
26:01she didn't like it
26:04and she went to work on Monday morning
26:06so that was the my bed like we've
26:11um backtracking one night she spent on
26:14the couch
26:17but like the couch bed we've made but
26:21one night I gained all night there all
26:24day and night pretty much
26:26and I'm pretty sure that was
26:31Friday night and let's go with Saturday
26:33was my night alone okay
26:38so Friday we believe she came over yes
26:41and then Saturday was the game night yes
26:45so backtracking to Friday
26:48when she came by
26:51we
26:56assuming
26:57just um oh right no not right um
27:02there's this movie or TV series on
27:04Netflix we've watched pretty much the
27:06entirety of that into
27:09the morning it was um
27:13uh apocalypse show okay I don't know the
27:16name
27:19what time do you guys sink you into bed
27:25I say we stayed up well with them
27:29in 10 I would say P.M
27:33yeah okay you gotta be at least
27:39um
27:42the morning
27:48Saturday we didn't do much
27:51she left
27:52um
27:54this is when I'm really starting to
27:57notice my legs
27:58okay I'm kind of having a
28:01anxiety and all of that like getting a
28:05little frustrated with myself and all
28:07that like I it wasn't too bad until
28:12like last week Tuesday when I started
28:14noticing it and Saturday was like the
28:18peak
28:19and it's kind of stayed out like this
28:21okay Peak anxiety and and this kind of
28:26like set me
28:27like fast for some space and I just kind
28:30of game Saturday
28:34um
28:36I'll tell you when I went to bed I I
28:38think I might have even stayed up till 2
28:41that yeah
28:45um
28:50yeah it's just the same game escape from
28:53tarkov
28:56um
28:57all right I couldn't get a hold of any
28:59of my friends to play with unfortunately
29:01I played like some here and there
29:04from Discord but not one
29:07stick around for that late in the night
29:12then we get the Sunday
29:14it's the fourth
29:16judge
29:18I'll give the court reporter a moment
29:21all right I'm pausing the video at
29:24what's on the screen is 17 37 33 uh
29:28what's actually time played as 41.58 it
29:31is 10 30 the traditional time for the
29:33morning break we'll go ahead and do that
29:34ladies and gentlemen and we'll when we
29:36come back we'll finish up the video I
29:38think it'll take us to the noon hour but
29:40I don't want to go
29:42more than that time with you so even
29:44though you've only been in this room
29:45about an hour we'll take a 10 minute
29:47break so everybody can have a chance to
29:49stretch
29:51about my family
29:53I think I called my mom
29:57always throughout I've called I don't
29:59know the times though
30:02throughout the weekend at me but I call
30:04my mind I believe
30:06in the morning
30:08s along those lines and I get a text
30:10from her
30:13it was a text message it wasn't even my
30:15message so I assume
30:18said White Lake today
30:22so she sent it that day
30:26um
30:27I couldn't figure out where she was
30:29because it was a text there was no
30:32iMessage so I kind of just like left it
30:34at that they're safe they're alive
30:38then
30:44it's the afternoon
30:47I'm talking to Dan
30:51I call him up and I ask him well what
30:54he's doing
30:57or maybe that was the morning but I I
30:59called Dan that Sunday asked him what he
31:02what he's up to if he wanted to hang out
31:05because I I don't like being alone
31:09Dan is Mom's co-worker slash friend yeah
31:12okay
31:16go over there for he invited me for
31:19fireworks
31:21and it was his driveway
31:30um he said or you said yesterday he
31:32lived in DeForest or Windsor one of the
31:33other yeah close Okay I couldn't I could
31:37point it at a map one or the other I
31:39think it was
31:42so
31:43throughout the day
31:45um the dogs it's just me and the dogs
31:47the fireworks and the dogs are like
31:50running around and into things and
31:53trying to keep them okay all they're
31:55doing is knocking stuff over
31:58filled their water they haven't eaten
32:01it won't go outside for me even on a
32:05leash I couldn't get them
32:07out
32:09what was the deal with that fireworks oh
32:12the fire dogs are spoofing them so much
32:13yeah
32:16I put them both into the Ford crank the
32:20TV
32:25did that seem to help at all with them
32:28yeah the the loud TV helps um Rizzo
32:33doesn't like or maybe does like new girl
32:36the TV shows so we watched that
32:40theme song that gets everything parts
32:44um
32:46so we watched that
32:49Izzy fell asleep so
32:52Izzy's the old dog the older one yep so
32:56then it's Sunday right Sunday evening
32:59cat comes by
33:01to help me with the girls
33:03so she wasn't there during the day no no
33:05it was just me and the dogs she left
33:08said a Sunday this morning okay from the
33:13no no she left
33:17Saturday morning because I spent oh
33:20Saturday I see that and then Sunday
33:23it was just me and the girls too
33:28whenever cat got there
33:31we didn't eat
33:33together I don't think
33:37no this is Sunday this is Sunday so I
33:40win
33:41two cats house
33:44on Sunday I actually yeah so that was
33:47Sunday morning is when I left the girls
33:49so all of Sunday morning I had the girls
33:52in the fort we watched New Girl
33:55I went to cat's house Sunday to eat but
33:59we ended up not eating there we went to
34:03um Chris's house
34:06it's
34:08Cottage Grove or Cascade no
34:12Cedarburg it's a seed town
34:16area
34:18okay
34:19um so where is it near
34:21I've never corrected Chris well Chris
34:25all right so Chris is just here in my
34:27phone yeah yeah I saw the calls to her
34:30see that's you're hurting me out with
34:32everything cats moms girlfriend mom's
34:35girlfriend okay I try to talk through as
34:39much because she's like I don't know
34:41Wise and she really
34:42helps me with what's going on with me
34:46I've been in a slump I'd say okay
34:50all right it's going to cats all Sunday
34:52to eat what time do you think you went
34:54over there
34:58food at 3 30. that's what I said it's
35:01about three through three three Thirty
35:03went over to cats oh I was at cats well
35:06before I was out there noon okay let's
35:09say noon where does cat live
35:12the east side east side Madison I
35:15yeah
35:17you know I'm sure I could look it up but
35:20you know the road at all or
35:22catholgar for Andrew Lane half of her
35:26okay
35:28I'll look it up that's fine we're and so
35:30I he went met her Sunday about noon
35:34um
35:34what'd you guys do at her place well
35:38she realized my legs I wouldn't be able
35:41to do stuff with them so her her brother
35:44and her brother's date went to a thrift
35:48store while she
35:50had me sleep just
35:53she just put me to bed and
35:56they win and then they get home around 2
35:5930.
36:01cat and I rushed back to my house let
36:04the girls out and we go back straight to
36:07the farm
36:09okay we're at the farm before you went
36:10to let the dogs out or no we were at
36:13plants like it's like a duplex so cats
36:16cat's house Sunday around noon
36:19um you went to sleep with a Welsh cat
36:22her sister
36:24her brother Cat's brother and his date
36:28in his date okay sorry about that went
36:31to a thrift store
36:33then then we went to Chris's and we ate
36:38um after that James left after dinner
36:41leaving his date with us and we we took
36:44a swim
36:45after the swim we
36:48we left
36:49um
36:51went to cat's house to drop off his date
36:54the date stayed at cat's house
37:00foreign
37:07ever met her before no this was a Tinder
37:11match from her brother Cat's brother
37:13okay
37:22what time do you suppose you guys went
37:24to krause's house so got the cats around
37:27noon
37:29[Music]
37:30back now I went to my house
37:33to let the dogs out then we left
37:36oh I think we got gas
37:39and then we went to crosses so I would
37:41say
37:42we got to
37:44it was maybe four when we got there we
37:48were late for dinner
37:49but it was good because they're still
37:51setting up
37:54where'd you guys get gas at do you
37:56remember that one of the quick trips in
37:58town
37:59I
38:02but I'm sorry um
38:07when you say Antonio are we talking
38:08divorce Sun Prairie divorce yeah okay
38:15I think we are I I'm still not super
38:18sure but I know we
38:21were doing something on the way or we
38:23didn't do something
38:24I thought we were gonna do a return but
38:27I'm jumbling it right now so just have
38:30that we went to my house and backed
38:33aggressive we were late okay we're doing
38:36it
38:36what were you guys driving
38:39or you're in your what's red Subaru okay
38:43was she driving are you she sometimes
38:46that cats her car
38:49red subaruism yeah she it's at my house
38:53right now oh okay
38:55and you rode with her
38:57yes
39:00where'd you guys go for a swim there's
39:03like a little pool up at the crisis
39:06house oh she's been helping me like my
39:09walking and everything and they get me
39:11there
39:12okay
39:14is it indoor outdoor outdoor
39:17it's been nice with how hot it has been
39:18and you think that's something fancy to
39:21heat it from the Sun okay
39:24but that was the three of us yeah
39:27and we went
39:29back to round six now later
39:34maybe seven
39:36we went back to cat's apartment dropped
39:39off Rose
39:41got cats
39:43dirty or
39:44wet clothes she had wet clothes
39:48because she was gonna try them
39:50and we went
39:51to my house together
39:54so it Rose got dropped off at cats yeah
39:57the duplex in
39:59the East Side okay
40:02James with you guys at that pointer
40:04no James left after dinner around 4 30.
40:09okay
40:10um
40:19was he not getting along with rose or no
40:21you'd work oh okay
40:24um
40:26that sucks
40:29working on the fourth of July
40:32um something
40:35did Rose get dropped off at cat's duplex
40:38though yes
40:39we'll refer to cats house is a duplex
40:42yep press Crest is the farm
40:47fairies yeah my house is my house that's
40:50how it work for gotcha gotcha
40:53um
40:57where are we Sunday night about seven
40:59yeah
41:01roads dropped off we get to my house
41:05and we go to my house in divorce yeah
41:10we feed the girls
41:12we put her clothes that she brought the
41:14wet stuff in the dryer because that's
41:17what she needed to do
41:20we're getting her clothes dry that's
41:23after we get back actually
41:26um
41:28and then we go to dance
41:30okay
41:31um for the fireworks like he asked us to
41:33come by 8 30.
41:37um for some reason I I was trying to
41:39leave but
41:41I would make a a joke about it that
41:44we're we're gonna be late like stuff
41:46like that goofy crap uh I drove to dance
41:50okay which car were you guys my dad's
41:53also blue the one in the garage
41:56yeah
41:58gotcha
42:01then we get there we stay for 45 to an
42:05hour because
42:07that's how I got the bottle rocket marks
42:09show me those
42:11bad
42:13oh this is
42:20yeah that one's stuck in for a little
42:22bit that's why it's so bad but these are
42:25sparks okay those are a dancehalls yes
42:28it does
42:30I I didn't know it was thick
42:33you don't hold the stick the stick flies
42:40um
42:46two over at Dan's house about 45 minutes
42:48to an hour yeah get my hands a little
42:50bit
42:51uh we find the fireworks that it spins
42:55and takes off and it went straight to
42:58the bush
43:00so we were like no more of that we're
43:03done
43:04um
43:08that light the Bush on fire
43:10no no thankfully it wasn't hot enough
43:12for that good
43:14after that we cleaned
43:16I gave him a bottle of wine as a thank
43:19you for letting us
43:21come
43:23all right
43:24thankfully I still have a couple
43:27bottles at home
43:34while we're there Dan had a few beers
43:36his girlfriend was there for fiance or
43:40of course wife
43:42I'm not sure in a relationship but she
43:44was there
43:47no name
43:48never got her name
43:51Just Dance girlfriend she's got purple
43:53hair she's like tea at MATC the school's
43:56own I.T
43:58okay
43:59anybody else there just the two of us
44:02and then the neighbors watched one to
44:05our left and one across the street one
44:07group
44:11um the one across the street had some
44:13cooler stuff than I've ever seen a
44:15person be able to own the firework-wise
44:22but there there we are and then then
44:25someone in the distance kind of closer
44:28to our house launched a mortar
44:31artillery Firework and then I was like
44:35okay we have to go home for the dogs so
44:37we went
44:39and that was
44:40pushing
44:439 30 9 45. we got home
44:48we
44:50got into the couch fort
45:00and put on Daybreak was the apocalypse
45:03show Daybreak
45:06um
45:08put on that because we're trying to
45:09finish it on Netflix yes
45:13um this is cat and I still yeah she was
45:15spending the night
45:17um the whole time dogs are pushing me
45:20nosing me and everything
45:22and so we kind of stopped
45:24and stop watching and she goes to bed
45:28um
45:29I'm trying to let the dogs out or at
45:31least go back in a little bit but the
45:34fireworks wait she did
45:36[Music]
45:39um
45:40we get to bed upstairs in my room
45:44because she doesn't like the couch it's
45:46and she had work in the morning yeah
45:49and I see that's 10-ish 10 10 30.
45:55and then all the time the younger dog
45:57keeps jumping on us
46:00um so I leave cat in the bed and I go
46:03sit out out down in the the couches and
46:08chairs down by the real dinner table
46:11I go sit there and just hang out with
46:13the dogs okay I can get asleep
46:15where we first started talking last
46:17night yes like the Main Kitchen dining
46:19room and the coaches okay got that sit
46:21down there so cat can get some because I
46:22don't work tomorrow she does
46:26um then I put the ladder in front of
46:28those steps so the girls can't come up
46:31I
46:33uh they pee on the kitchen
46:35the tiles so I clean that and like well
46:38at least they went before bed you know
46:41it wasn't the worst thing they're not
46:43gonna go outside yeah
46:46then I go to bed
46:49then it's Monday morning
46:52cat goes to work
46:54750 ish maybe earlier
46:59than enough to myself so
47:02we put on new girl in the couch for on
47:05Monday morning
47:09I go back and forth through some video
47:11games and then back
47:14with video games
47:21foreign
47:29those don't like to stand up very good
47:33I'll stretch a little bit I want to see
47:35right
47:36um
47:38girl video games this
47:44is
47:45um again later I have a little bit to
47:47eat for lunch
47:52come on hi well at the end of the day on
47:56Monday
47:58I did go
48:00for the afternoon
48:02I did go to the farm to talk to Chris
48:05and Kat's mom
48:08I told him what's happening with my
48:10health because I had the appointment at
48:12two
48:13did you go to the farm before or after
48:15before because I told them what happened
48:17to me and I told them the likes are
48:21probably going to be permanent and the
48:23headaches should be fixed after the
48:26Hemorrhage is cleared a little bit
48:29so
48:31now that I'm there
48:37I talked to their mom
48:42and Crest together
48:45and
48:47I think Kent's mom's
48:49all right with me
48:51she's
48:54I don't know if she wants me to move
48:56into her the East Side cat's house okay
49:00and start paying rent as an apartment
49:02because she doesn't like that I live at
49:04home just can't live with their mom or
49:06that has an apartment okay somewhere
49:10cat does yeah it's um
49:13it's by Mifflin okay the party Avenue
49:16it's by there
49:18um
49:22okay
49:24so I'm there talking to their mom and
49:27Chris
49:29I
49:30um
49:31then I go up
49:33to have
49:35you know break down by their shed and
49:38they go
49:39swimming
49:42um right by the swimming pool is shed so
49:45they're they wanted to watch me like
49:48you know
49:51break down and all that so after I
49:54noticed they're just watching
49:57walk over to them
50:01subscribe would break down to me
50:04um I actually cried
50:09started kicking grass
50:12doing the toddler tantrum [ __ ]
50:15then I
50:17hopped in the water with them so it was
50:20too late and I was in the water and I
50:23realized Christ didn't have a top
50:25and that was uncomfortable but I talked
50:29to them more and that's when she brought
50:30up the housing situation how she doesn't
50:32like
50:33how my parents like
50:36are
50:37I guess I don't know
50:40she doesn't know them that well she's
50:41never met them okay Chris was saying
50:44that the cat's mom cat's mom
50:48speaks as the first thought right away
50:52yeah so she's
50:55they're offering me to get a job
50:58live with them
51:01work for them while I'm working
51:04and pay rent and that's kind of their
51:06their deal I would have like a month for
51:09your friend or a month or two maybe if
51:11they're thinking
51:13um
51:14I could be able to borrow a car
51:16impressed maybe if she's nice or not
51:20using it I'd be able to go to work
51:22make sure you have a lot of cards or
51:24something
51:25no okay just an extra one probably
51:28she stays at the farm okay so if she
51:32didn't need it I could use it sure to go
51:35to a job or at least interviews yeah
51:40I was hoping for a job and you know near
51:43where I live so I could bike or keep me
51:46you know you know yeah he's gone I don't
51:48wanna I don't think they can get worse
51:50but I I can keep doing it yeah
51:54um
51:57where where are we Sunday so you were
52:00swimming I've had a little breakdown
52:02what were you having a breakdown about
52:06you ever have your legs yeah no I
52:10haven't just
52:13I don't even know if they're done eating
52:15like as bad as they they can be yet so
52:18yeah so
52:19that's not fun and you I think you were
52:21telling me last night it was it's a
52:23symptom of a concussion right so that's
52:26not it that's a it's a symptom of nerve
52:28damage from the hip
52:31okay I understand that no better yeah
52:36um so it's just legs I think it's
52:38a waste feeling is probably colostomy
52:42bag down the road and all of that but
52:44here we are Sunday yeah
52:49okay we're sitting in the pool we're
52:51hanging out
52:56um
52:57they're just talking to me
53:00sometimes it'd be nice sometimes they're
53:02like making the offer like hey if you
53:04move in you can pay rent this is a good
53:06neighborhood
53:08um it's a cul-de-sac there's parking
53:13so
53:15yeah on the east side just off of
53:18Milwaukee Street that's Andrew Andrew
53:21you take the left turn on to Andrew yo
53:26so that's it
53:28um so it's a good neighborhood kind of
53:31like the one by my parents
53:34I'm I live there I at least began doing
53:38my own thing
53:40and then they're like well appreciate
53:43you stopping by so I I head out and I go
53:48it was Monday afternoon I go to dinner
53:51at cat's house on the east side okay
53:56what time you think that was
54:00going to be 7 30 I left the farm which
54:03is Chris's 7 30 P.M
54:09okay
54:11so
54:16I like my cats
54:20and then she's
54:24she's planning on feeding me
54:27this is Monday correct yeah
54:31that's actually Fun swimming press
54:37I think we just eat and cuddle a little
54:40bit
54:42I go home
54:45there's the girls
54:47um let them out and go to bed because I
54:51kind of had a date yeah what time you
54:54think you left her place I guess 29.
55:00getting left for about nine okay
55:02um
55:04she didn't come with you no I was alone
55:07that night okay
55:13I'll drag her away I think she stayed at
55:16her apartment that or her house at night
55:18okay
55:21so there we are
55:25Tuesday Tuesday morning
55:28it was just
55:36I can't really reduce it
55:39um oh
55:41Dan wakes me up I believe was something
55:44or not wakes me up I I did the six again
55:46with the dogs and the food but I got
55:49back in bed I don't know if I passed out
55:50or zoned out a little bit but
55:56um
55:56Dan is worried about my mom on Tuesday I
56:00think
56:02did he call her no no word I'm not
56:06I don't know if he called I think he
56:08just contacted this so that I can think
56:10I reached out yeah he would stop
56:13then I'm like oh it's Tuesday morning
56:14they should be here
56:16um a little worried I think I called my
56:19mom bad day
56:25and then
56:27the
56:34voicemail I said voicemail you know what
56:37I mean yeah so it's off out of range
56:41I don't know the other factors that
56:43could give you that it's like a
56:45voicemail right away it goes right to
56:46voicemail right yeah okay so whatever
56:48factors can give you that
56:51so I might have missed it so from the
56:52time like they left
56:55did you talk to them at all when they
56:57were I got it first you got the one
56:59taxes yeah I thought you mentioned her
57:01don't even like it right yeah but that
57:03was it nothing else yeah so that's
57:06that's fishy to me even the text because
57:09I realized Memorial Day is when the
57:11white light parade is
57:12oh sure
57:14there's no Fourth of July maybe there's
57:16cheap drinks but there's no parade quite
57:19like on the fourth
57:21so
57:23well maybe there is now
57:26I realize I've always gone on Memorial
57:29because that's okay I give time from
57:34school and all of that you don't get
57:36time off for the fourth so so basically
57:38from the time that they're gone
57:40at the cabin in your home you know
57:42running around doing what you're doing
57:44you just have one communication with Mom
57:46yeah that's kind of how it would be I
57:49just assumed the amount of people of
57:52where they're at and where they're all
57:54well I understand
57:57her not contacting but this is the only
57:59text was there anything with Dad no I I
58:03don't even bother talking to him you
58:05wouldn't use this phone with all these
58:07up there he loves it
58:10you know he was going on him when he's
58:13up there
58:14it's usually in the car oh okay
58:18um
58:18my brother and I just text all the time
58:21while we're up there we set up wire and
58:24kind of sometimes make make better
58:26connections sure
58:29um so here we are
58:30where Tuesday
58:32um called um voicemail immediately
58:34voicemail immediately Tuesday
58:38or Dan Dan called worried about mom not
58:41coming to work you had already fed the
58:44dogs and that before Ben called in or
58:47reached out to
59:01oh
59:05so please I'm doing this part
59:12I got I got a coffee at a quick trip one
59:16day
59:17well I think that could have been
59:18Tuesday morning
59:21the quick trip I got a coffee
59:23and I
59:26um I use my dad's number at a quick trip
59:28to give me the free one because the gold
59:31yeah I could have I could have afforded
59:33it but you know there's a free one and
59:35it's Tuesday or it wasn't Monday I could
59:38have gotten a dollar one but
59:40full price I believe and I grabbed the
59:43coffee because it was a free one he
59:45hasn't used it for weeks so go grab that
59:47at a quick trip
59:49I couldn't tell you which one I was just
59:51driving at that point
59:53um
59:54when you get one user is rewards card is
59:56what they call it right yeah you just
59:58enter his phone number or something you
1:00:00type it
1:00:01okay
1:00:03um
1:00:05but I got coffee had to be on the
1:00:08assuming Tuesday
1:00:10and I got a free one
1:00:13sweet it's it was terrible no it was hey
1:00:17I wanted to try a group of gold yeah
1:00:19that was an ad
1:00:22um February Tuesday
1:00:24uh cat's working
1:00:26um and I'm gaming job hunt and then I
1:00:31um then I started trying to
1:00:33get the glass
1:00:36because I've been a little lazy on the
1:00:39glass I just kind of have chairs in
1:00:41front of it I just broom and
1:00:46you know a little sweeper holder you
1:00:48know you broom it into that dustpan yeah
1:00:52um
1:00:53tossing the glass and the recycling
1:01:00um
1:01:01I get most of it there's there's a bunch
1:01:03in the cracks of the Stone
1:01:05that I'm picking off by hand
1:01:07I didn't injure myself from that but
1:01:12um just
1:01:14yeah
1:01:18yeah
1:01:19I'm just down
1:01:23my blood was
1:01:25kind of on the floor so I got the
1:01:27Swiffer I borrowed from cat
1:01:30from the the foot
1:01:32I've already Swiffer to mop
1:01:35I used to referred the the floor for
1:01:37like not the stone but the floor
1:01:40and then I got a little bit in the
1:01:41kitchen
1:01:43and then everywhere kind of I walked
1:01:45pretty much the bathroom the kitchen
1:01:48and then I I couldn't get the carpet so
1:01:51I still stained that up real crabby
1:01:54where was there carpet at the stairs
1:01:56between basement and kitchen carpet oh
1:01:58that's right carpet stays
1:02:02um I tried I can't get it out
1:02:06I don't know how to do that but
1:02:10um then all the way up to my the laundry
1:02:13room where I found my first aid kit I
1:02:15just tried to stop all the bleeding but
1:02:18I you know it wouldn't stop so
1:02:22that blood was all coming from your left
1:02:25foot yeah left foot hole
1:02:28foot hole and
1:02:31I mean we're talking are we talking
1:02:32massive amounts of blood are we talking
1:02:35you know a little bit like described
1:02:38he's starting his drops
1:02:40until I got to the bathroom
1:02:43and then I got back to go grab my sock
1:02:46and some of the paper towel and then I
1:02:50see the glasses in there so I grabbed
1:02:52the tweeze and I pull it out and then it
1:02:53starts
1:02:54squirting out and I I got some
1:02:57on a little bit of the rock it wasn't
1:03:00that bad of the rock but it
1:03:03um
1:03:04I think the worst was the that floor
1:03:07that like it kind of like
1:03:11you know like this lid puddles it was
1:03:14wasn't good are we having the floor down
1:03:16in the basement well
1:03:18that one
1:03:20um
1:03:21and then I go upstairs
1:03:24to the kitchen and it's still going I'm
1:03:27trying to get my foot in the sink just
1:03:29to slow it down and pinch it maybe
1:03:34um and then I waddle upstairs to
1:03:39the
1:03:40the eye Factor the
1:03:43the first date
1:03:45and
1:03:47um once I got it kind of bundled up
1:03:50that's it stopped for what I know
1:03:55then I go
1:03:57I need to get some tape
1:04:01um we have a tape box in the basement I
1:04:03go there and I I opened it up again
1:04:06I bled a little bit more but the
1:04:08basement was easy to clean but it's just
1:04:10cement a little bit of water and I
1:04:13rigged it up but they grabbed the tape
1:04:16box and I wrapped it
1:04:18um after bad that was that's Tuesday yep
1:04:30wings I go to cats
1:04:32oh okay weird ways what time
1:04:36um then it could have been I've been
1:04:39doing the
1:04:40BS of first aid and all that cat's house
1:04:43with her mom and her brother that could
1:04:46have been
1:04:48five or six
1:04:53did you guys pick up the wings and go
1:04:55there or
1:04:57no I I drove to cats
1:05:01straight there
1:05:03um would you drive the Subaru that's
1:05:05right car choice I just
1:05:08um the with the Volvo's seat it like
1:05:16um
1:05:21so we're talking about wings
1:05:24do you guys go pick up wings or yeah so
1:05:26we get there
1:05:28and we're calling around seeing what's
1:05:30up James is getting home with Jimmy
1:05:32John's
1:05:37um
1:05:38and we're like oh don't eat all of it
1:05:40he's like I'm hungry now you do all that
1:05:42post-gym crap thing
1:05:46grabs eats half of sandwich and then we
1:05:49go cat night the Two of Us in my car we
1:05:53go to
1:05:54Buffalo Wild Wings
1:05:59do you remember which one
1:06:00I can tell you okay I don't
1:06:04um
1:06:08head to East right that's close to yeah
1:06:10it's by a mall
1:06:12at least by them all
1:06:15there's a mall
1:06:17um we go in we get the wings we go out
1:06:23foreign
1:06:30tank or something it's about a girl with
1:06:33that likes fashion and goes to Harvard
1:06:38so is it on Netflix or just normal TV
1:06:43and they have like everything there I
1:06:45didn't
1:06:47I didn't know
1:06:49all right so we hit the wings at cats
1:06:51what's Pretty in Pink
1:06:53yes it is a mom's choice but um
1:06:57the four of us get reality okay
1:07:01um went upstairs laid down in her bed
1:07:03for a few minutes
1:07:08just letting the food settle or yeah
1:07:10hanging out
1:07:12um no she's kind of
1:07:15falling asleep
1:07:17so I'm like okay I'm ready to get out of
1:07:19here
1:07:20and I go home
1:07:23get the girls all ready for bed going
1:07:25outside
1:07:27get them watered
1:07:32what time do you think you made it home
1:07:36say nine
1:07:38the latest
1:07:40um
1:07:43two girls
1:07:46water well not really food they could
1:07:48eat before but water
1:07:50and played like indoor playtime and yeah
1:07:53bathroom sure
1:07:56so
1:07:58if you guys go to so you were home alone
1:08:01then
1:08:02um I've been home alone this whole
1:08:04weekend really except when cat comes
1:08:06yeah yeah okay I didn't come that night
1:08:09so now we're we're pushing Wednesday
1:08:11aren't we
1:08:13um
1:08:18what time do you think you went to bed
1:08:19on Tuesday night
1:08:22um
1:08:23at home 10 at the latest
1:08:28okay
1:08:29kind of been tired lately sure
1:08:33um
1:08:35in the morning on
1:08:37Sunday oh no wait where are we once
1:08:40Wednesday okay so Wednesday
1:08:43um
1:08:45I try to go to the farm I keep spamming
1:08:48crests and spam and press
1:08:51I kind of needed someone to talk to
1:08:53who's freaking out about my parents
1:08:55um Jane's calling me I give her the
1:08:58address to go to the farm Aaron said the
1:09:01to the cabin
1:09:02Jane Jane helgendorf
1:09:10um never picked up from press
1:09:12so I go home
1:09:17um did you drive over to the farm or
1:09:19yeah yeah yeah because she wasn't
1:09:22answering her phone right so I got close
1:09:25but then I realized I can't just show up
1:09:27they'd shoot me
1:09:29I don't know when I drive or it looks
1:09:33like it was a hat on we got guns over
1:09:35there
1:09:36would they actually shoot you no I'm
1:09:39just saying but her dad lives there he's
1:09:42he's 90.
1:09:43he he got a buck when he was 95 or
1:09:47something so I I know if you didn't know
1:09:50who I was you could have yeah
1:09:53so he's he's old
1:09:56but he can use a gun that's why I
1:09:59wouldn't do that yeah
1:10:02so Chris's dad lives there too yeah
1:10:04who's put is it Chris's Farm or bad he
1:10:07felt it oh okay and then she lives there
1:10:10she's managing the property because he's
1:10:12in a chair yeah is all
1:10:15[Music]
1:10:15um
1:10:17so it's not really the fog it's a farm
1:10:20hobby Farm yeah yeah okay you haven't
1:10:24ever been there let wildflowers grow for
1:10:26the the beast that's pretty much it and
1:10:28their own berries but it's um
1:10:31then here we are I turn around and then
1:10:35Jane calls
1:10:37I get a picture of the property at the
1:10:41cabin
1:10:43I see that
1:10:45so I'm looking at the cabin
1:10:49and then it doesn't look right there's a
1:10:52birch tree in in front
1:10:55and I I didn't like the look of it
1:10:57because that didn't
1:10:58that didn't just sit right with me a
1:11:00little bit but I it looked like tracks
1:11:02were pushed down into the grass a little
1:11:05bit I don't know from the picture
1:11:08and Mike said there was like light
1:11:10tracks like someone was there
1:11:13where was the birch tree at it looked
1:11:16like it was in the middle of the drive
1:11:17and sometimes we do do that we find a
1:11:21following log and we put it like a you
1:11:24know a double door entrance so you going
1:11:27from the gate you park you move the next
1:11:30and then you drive yeah sure so that's
1:11:34like the only security we can get up
1:11:36there
1:11:38um some we have done that before
1:11:41the grass is overgrown but that's from
1:11:43the storm and the Fallen trees you can't
1:11:46mow there because the flowers
1:11:53so with the birch tree I mean if you
1:11:55guys typically put stuff down like
1:11:57security why why did it look weird to
1:12:00you this time
1:12:02I've never seen that log we have we have
1:12:04this log that one that you close to the
1:12:07shed it's
1:12:09I would say closer to petrified than
1:12:12rotten it's hard like really hard
1:12:16yeah I don't know what kind of tree but
1:12:18that's what my dad and I used when we go
1:12:21so you typically use the same tree this
1:12:23one just seemed out of place too that's
1:12:26not the tree we use
1:12:28um
1:12:34where was Wednesday morning uh Jane
1:12:37sends you a picture of the cabin you see
1:12:39the birch tree
1:12:41then I go to police station
1:12:44because I asked her when should I make a
1:12:47thing a point period uh
1:12:57Wednesday morning you said you went to
1:13:00the police department yeah to make a
1:13:05talk to him about my parents
1:13:07and um then I met with three sheriffs
1:13:12okay threes three
1:13:15there was a
1:13:17Sealy he's a bearded the guy that drove
1:13:21me here I'm not sure the name and then
1:13:24Collins
1:13:28she was also doing
1:13:31canvassing
1:13:34canvas thing
1:13:37so here we are throws three
1:13:40I get the questions answered
1:13:44um
1:13:46oh then we go to my house
1:13:48and then there's three more the same
1:13:50three shares
1:13:53so they talked to you at the police
1:13:55station or wherever you yeah it gets
1:13:58information and stuff and then I came to
1:13:59your house yeah yeah
1:14:01okay
1:14:03and that's probably about then I came a
1:14:05couple hours later they were there
1:14:06questioning you're here now questioning
1:14:09and then
1:14:11that night that
1:14:13night around Wednesday Wednesday night
1:14:16I go to Dan and Mary's
1:14:19Wednesday night Wednesday night what
1:14:21time do you think they feed me
1:14:24um I had probably seven seven thirty
1:14:27and you said he wanted
1:14:29to enter Mary's house or Mary Sesto and
1:14:32Dan
1:14:33somethingovich
1:14:36so Mary sesto's house Mary cessna's
1:14:39house it's it's I'm on the same road as
1:14:43yours yeah okay just up
1:14:45around the corner for dinner you went
1:14:48there yeah well they just fed me they
1:14:50didn't eat okay they just wanted to
1:14:52brainstorm
1:14:55any good ideas come out of it
1:14:58no okay so you said you only could think
1:15:01of van and advancement here yeah so you
1:15:04said you went to the the police
1:15:06department to talk about your parents
1:15:09what just tell me what exactly do they
1:15:11talk about your parents with the
1:15:13deputies about oh we're making a report
1:15:15a report that I thought I had to do that
1:15:18at a station okay
1:15:22and you were reporting like what were
1:15:24you reporting exactly just I just want
1:15:26to write down and yeah have it on there
1:15:28uh they're missing this okay
1:15:33gotcha
1:15:37um as far as as far as you know
1:15:41um
1:15:43I mean were you able to tell we've gone
1:15:45into a lot of detail last night and
1:15:47tonight right yeah do you think that you
1:15:49gave them
1:15:51as much information as you've given me
1:15:53or do you think that we can ask way more
1:15:56questions you even asked about my
1:15:57injuries yeah the bleeding and the
1:16:00fireplace you know
1:16:02um as sheriffs kind of gave what they
1:16:05need to make reports and you've just
1:16:07asked about like
1:16:09home like everything right
1:16:12okay uh so you you got more in depth
1:16:15yeah I think
1:16:17um Wednesday here we are and throughout
1:16:20the weekend I've been calling
1:16:22[Music]
1:16:24okay
1:16:25all right
1:16:27um I'm just kind of look at some things
1:16:29here so we started Wednesday
1:16:32um
1:16:33mom had work you and your dad watched
1:16:35Wheel of Fortune I'm just gonna kind of
1:16:38read stuff back through a little bit
1:16:39okay but we kind of ended it last night
1:16:41because that's I've been talking to you
1:16:43since then you know so I don't think
1:16:45there's much else that I need you to
1:16:46tell me from last night
1:16:49um
1:16:51so watching Wheel of Fortune how you're
1:16:54on the couch table downstairs coach back
1:16:57to the table downstairs and tossing the
1:16:59the ball around for the dog and broke
1:17:01the glass fireplace
1:17:04um your foot gets hurt dad gets mad
1:17:07right yeah
1:17:09mom left for work in the morning comes
1:17:11home later on
1:17:13um
1:17:14dog was fine not in here at all was it
1:17:16the dog or the ball that crashed into
1:17:18the glass both the ball bones did the
1:17:21dog hit it with the shoulder that's how
1:17:23it broke he wanted the ball them doesn't
1:17:25it yeah I'm probably not
1:17:28okay
1:17:29um
1:17:31all right
1:17:32[Music]
1:17:32um
1:17:33playing games watching YouTube job
1:17:36search
1:17:37I'm just gonna instead of reading out
1:17:39loud just make sure I don't have any
1:17:40questions
1:17:42um
1:17:45you guys typically make your beds every
1:17:47day look like they're made yesterday
1:17:49when I was there yes okay okay these are
1:17:52your sheets every few days in beds
1:18:00change the sheets every day every few
1:18:02yeah they get changed it's gonna say
1:18:04that's one of the faces
1:18:06or the dog here it's kind of hard to
1:18:09sleep yeah they probably do this for
1:18:11pretty long hair the heat they should
1:18:13um but
1:18:16oh yeah no that's fine
1:18:20um I get it I got a dog he sheds too but
1:18:22you got two of them you know
1:18:25all right
1:18:32as far as
1:18:34as far as the blood on your foot
1:18:38um
1:18:39how did you clean that up so we we were
1:18:41talking he got he had blood on with her
1:18:44wet cut okay super wet jet and where did
1:18:48you get that from cat let me borrow it
1:18:51um where's it at now I turned it to cat
1:18:54and
1:18:59yeah
1:19:02I don't know where it's at now
1:19:04for the bank
1:19:07giving back to work
1:19:09um
1:19:10did you use anything else
1:19:14hydrogen peroxide for the tiles and the
1:19:18hard floors
1:19:23um
1:19:24just the big gloves needed a little bit
1:19:27[ __ ] crap so did that seem to help
1:19:30get rid of the blood
1:19:31hurt my foot by that stuff um but it
1:19:36didn't really help okay you kind of just
1:19:38made a mess
1:19:39and when you say only on tiles I'm
1:19:41trying to remember your house I couldn't
1:19:42do carpet with it it would ruined the
1:19:44carpet right it would I think so
1:19:47um tiles are we talking kitchen his
1:19:50downstairs
1:19:51well when I had some blood on the
1:19:53basement I used the peroxide
1:19:57or tiles in the kitchen yeah okay yeah
1:20:01it's pretty excited there it wasn't as
1:20:03much like they weren't like this size
1:20:06pools in the kitchen okay I was pinching
1:20:09it pretty dang hard but which was also
1:20:11cutting deeper because I had another
1:20:13milestone in a piece of glass is that
1:20:16the biggest pool that you saw was
1:20:18something this was downstairs this was
1:20:21kind of on the stone
1:20:24close to the glass and then there was
1:20:26one right at the base kind of where the
1:20:29chairs I put
1:20:31like a good
1:20:33like
1:20:35three inch diameter
1:20:38okay
1:20:40um
1:20:42more than that
1:20:45um
1:20:53did you do anything to so I wrote down
1:20:56on Tuesday that you tried getting the
1:20:58glass cleaned up in the basement tossed
1:21:00it in the glass or glass and recycling
1:21:02did you clean up at all when it actually
1:21:04happened
1:21:05no my dad was Furious so he he did stuff
1:21:10to clean it yeah I don't know what he
1:21:13did
1:21:16but I used sent me to my room upstairs
1:21:19and he did whatever he did but it still
1:21:21was on the floor after he was done okay
1:21:26um
1:21:28did your dad get injured at all when the
1:21:30glass broke did he step on in here and
1:21:32sent me up
1:21:34but I
1:21:35don't doubt it and he gets mad he's not
1:21:38thinking
1:21:40so we don't know if your dad got hurt no
1:21:42okay no
1:21:44but my best guess is that guy reached in
1:21:48the fireplace and kind of asked his arm
1:21:50with something
1:21:57what's up the head pain do you guys have
1:22:00like Tylenol or something
1:22:03I know you guys can't really offer
1:22:05anything like that but like a headache
1:22:07yeah we've been getting the migraines
1:22:09from all of the
1:22:11the heads and stuff yeah we can try and
1:22:14give you something
1:22:17sorry so cleaning up the blood we just
1:22:19got the Swiffer and the hydrogen
1:22:21peroxide
1:22:23um just kind of maybe dig around it was
1:22:29yeah oh there's another
1:22:32paper toweling yeah just that okay and
1:22:36then there's
1:22:38I don't know
1:22:41foreign
1:22:45just in the trash yeah some
1:22:51things everywhere in my car trash
1:22:54in my
1:22:55my trash
1:23:00um they ended up in the car crash
1:23:02there's a bag in the car that I carried
1:23:04around it's a car trash okay it's like a
1:23:07gallon bag okay that's more portable
1:23:09than the garbage can
1:23:12so yeah bloody rag after bloody rag just
1:23:16trying to get it all up
1:23:17[Music]
1:23:19I don't know it was it was a lot I I
1:23:22didn't feel sick so I couldn't have been
1:23:24that much right yeah you know it was
1:23:25enough to pass out or anything
1:23:28is there any reason to believe Mom or
1:23:30Dad's blood would be somewhere
1:23:33in the house if they've been injured at
1:23:35all that you're aware of oh my bad
1:23:38scratches his psoriasis till he like
1:23:41gushes blood okay
1:23:43describe gushing to me enough to run
1:23:46down your leg like um
1:23:49like cover your leg I suppose like
1:23:51here's around his knee
1:23:54so when he does this it just like
1:23:58drips down
1:24:00uh I asked him to stop but he doesn't do
1:24:02it when he's stressed out yeah dude he
1:24:04just kind of like it's his Tech just
1:24:06yeah probably itches
1:24:08does he um
1:24:10like does it enough to get on the floor
1:24:12does it leave oh yeah you know like how
1:24:14much like before we're talking the water
1:24:16bottle lid and the yeti lid is there I
1:24:18mean like are we talking puddles like
1:24:20that or just Americans or
1:24:26if he's there and I don't catch him soon
1:24:28enough oh geez
1:24:30my Moss blood
1:24:34um just from her bloody noses she gets
1:24:36sometimes when she wakes up that's what
1:24:38we've been doing uh the dehumidifier
1:24:41humidifier and dehumidifiers yeah
1:24:45probably downstairs you get the we have
1:24:48to do multiple of them but she can't be
1:24:50in the living room too long because
1:24:52that's a dehumidifier you know if she
1:24:54does her nose gets bad
1:24:58not like a regular one it gets it bad
1:25:03um
1:25:04but she either goes to the kitchen to
1:25:07fix it her vanity or the bathroom
1:25:13when she has bloody noses are we talking
1:25:15and there's just spraying around is it
1:25:18just oh it's not squirting but it's just
1:25:20tripping and she doesn't notice it okay
1:25:22you can't feel it anymore okay
1:25:27um
1:25:28is there any reason to believe that in
1:25:30either one of their vehicles there would
1:25:32be any of their blood
1:25:36their vehicles yeah or anybody's vehicle
1:25:40let's say that
1:25:41um maybe car trash
1:25:43mom's car trash would definitely the
1:25:46past few days my dad's car trash
1:25:51um why would they have blood in their
1:25:53car crashes
1:25:56well my mom does the bloody noses with
1:25:58the air conditioning so okay in the
1:26:00would we have air conditioning my mom
1:26:02will we'll have to use
1:26:04um
1:26:05uh bring towels and stuff because in the
1:26:09hot days you can't have your windows
1:26:11open you'll you won't drive well no so
1:26:13the air conditioning my mom will have
1:26:15nosebleeds
1:26:18um my dad hasn't had them
1:26:20as much as she does but he gets them
1:26:23okay
1:26:25um his or worse than my mods
1:26:29does he ever get them in the house then
1:26:30or
1:26:32um mostly just with air conditioning
1:26:34like sometimes
1:26:36sometimes look at the dehumidifier okay
1:26:40me personally just an air conditioner I
1:26:44get them but I'm not as bad as my
1:26:46parents like it's um
1:26:49not bad okay
1:26:52all right
1:27:12okay
1:27:16yeah I'm listening right now I'm just
1:27:19thinking it's kind of absorbing
1:27:23I just want to make sure that I'm asking
1:27:25everything so I don't have to keep
1:27:26calling me and stuff you know my brother
1:27:29is he okay Mitch did he make it
1:27:33I know that's a long drive he hasn't
1:27:35called you yeah he hasn't called me at
1:27:36all so I don't know
1:27:38I don't think they've ever done a trip
1:27:40like that so it's like three hours three
1:27:42and a half or like
1:27:46okay
1:27:50um as far as up at the cabin
1:27:53when do you think the last time you were
1:27:56up there kind of personally last year
1:27:58last year Memorial Day I believe like
1:28:01there wasn't a weekend before Memorial
1:28:06I didn't make the parade I never got
1:28:09through it last year
1:28:12when do you think the last time your mom
1:28:14or dad were at the cabin before my dad
1:28:16went when my brother was diagnosed with
1:28:18diabetes
1:28:20when was that
1:28:23the weekend before my concussion so one
1:28:26two three not including this week three
1:28:31four
1:28:32yeah four
1:28:34four weeks did you bring it up brother
1:28:37doing okay
1:28:38he wasn't born with diabetes no this was
1:28:41it gets the kind you're born with I'm
1:28:43doing it this year I think three four
1:28:45weeks ago yeah okay
1:28:47he went up notice uh our Plumbing's gone
1:28:51to crap and he bought a new set or
1:28:54something at a Fleet Farm or Home Depot
1:28:56or it's like a
1:29:00it's like a four-way converter type
1:29:02thing for the plumbing something for the
1:29:05cabin yeah for the cabin it's for like a
1:29:07toilet or yeah we have a toilet up there
1:29:09actually no nice
1:29:12um not just an outhouse no there is an
1:29:14outpost
1:29:17you want an aspirin
1:29:20thank you
1:29:21guys that work yeah
1:29:27just over-the-counter stuff yeah thank
1:29:30you like three of them work
1:29:34appreciate it I'll drop them on there
1:29:37thanks Kim
1:29:38[Music]
1:29:42I stay Advil on them right
1:29:45you put them on your mouth already
1:29:48nope I just got uh
1:29:52no no is it is it like uh was it a sink
1:29:56or a toilet or what was it with the
1:29:58plumbing that went bad
1:30:00um so when we have to pour water in
1:30:03every time we go up to start the pump
1:30:05okay so some reason by pouring water in
1:30:09the water never Rose in the toilet bowl
1:30:12apparently so you couldn't flush it you
1:30:15know it the water didn't come to the
1:30:17toilet
1:30:18so getting a new thing to stop whatever
1:30:22the problem was I think leaking
1:30:24I don't know I
1:30:26didn't hear everything from I'm sure how
1:30:28did you find out about that
1:30:31see yeah how do you know that there was
1:30:34a plumbing issue up there oh he went up
1:30:36there just to go see the cabin oh so
1:30:38when you went up a couple weeks ago he
1:30:40realized an issue this time he wanted to
1:30:42fix it well he fixed the the major issue
1:30:45so it won't be flooding the house okay
1:30:48the cabin
1:30:50no he wanted the pipe set to redo it
1:30:55okay
1:30:56because we we need new pipes because
1:30:58they're lead
1:31:02and I think we might be moving to the
1:31:04plastic
1:31:05because there's no water heat we can do
1:31:07plastic yeah
1:31:12um
1:31:16okay I'm trying to figure out what that
1:31:18part was but that was when Mitch
1:31:20diabetes the number one
1:31:24did Mitch go up there with them when you
1:31:26know along my mind I we're kind of with
1:31:29Mitch all that weekend and stuff dad
1:31:32just went along
1:31:33yep and then later that week I had my
1:31:36fall
1:31:38and I I've just started getting my
1:31:40memory back okay so
1:31:43where did his mom been up there this
1:31:45year at all mom has not been up there
1:31:48this year maybe they were up there
1:31:51before uh no I think Dad Dad did it all
1:31:56himself maybe
1:31:58okay this is fresh and Mitch hasn't been
1:32:02to the cabinet in a while right today
1:32:03what we want to do today yeah I couldn't
1:32:07say he's been there he didn't go last
1:32:08year okay
1:32:11does he kind of do his own thing or
1:32:13um Mitch hasn't lived with us or
1:32:16you know
1:32:18he's got a family now dog or girlfriend
1:32:21no kids but
1:32:23cool it's kind of you know I've decided
1:32:27you know how it is with Brothers you
1:32:29know he's flew the coop Got a Feeling
1:32:33Myself yeah all right
1:32:35I've started thinking about that myself
1:32:37and my parents are trying to
1:32:39figure that out with me
1:32:48we got all the background I think right
1:32:50yeah going so so
1:32:52I think it's time to start talking about
1:32:54what happened to your parents we're
1:32:56making a truthful version
1:32:57okay okay
1:32:59so we have like 20 pages of writing
1:33:03we're gonna start with a clean white
1:33:05piece of paper a few to start telling
1:33:06the truth okay why because listen listen
1:33:08to me this is the only trench you're
1:33:10gonna have
1:33:11to tell us the truth okay okay what we
1:33:14listen listen I can't tell you what we
1:33:17know but we know you're not telling us
1:33:18the truth we know your parents are no
1:33:21longer with us
1:33:22okay and we know the reason why
1:33:24okay you need to tell the truth there's
1:33:27listen listen you need to tell the truth
1:33:30about what happened and just tell us why
1:33:32it happened
1:33:33okay if something happened if you were
1:33:36defending yourself or if you just like
1:33:38that up with stuff you need to tell us
1:33:40the truth okay
1:33:42this is your chance to tell us why
1:33:45okay I'm not bsing you
1:33:47okay
1:33:53so can we do that okay okay
1:33:55um
1:34:01there'll be a pause
1:34:22okay
1:34:36what happened
1:34:38okay can you know what happened we're
1:34:41not going to tell you what happened you
1:34:43know what happened you were there when
1:34:44it happened
1:34:46we're not BS Indians okay
1:34:53we know more I than you think we know I
1:34:55understand
1:34:56but
1:34:58there's people that have pulled us
1:35:00things we have we have evidence we have
1:35:02proof that more has happened okay
1:35:07so your parents never made it to the
1:35:08cabinet I think you know that
1:35:15there'll be another pause
1:35:18I just kind of you want to stand up
1:35:24get it in your pockets at all
1:35:29oh
1:35:34it says
1:35:36okay so they won't take the tape down in
1:35:39the jail
1:35:44where's your coin purse at you just took
1:35:48it oh that's a baby and a coin
1:36:03[Music]
1:36:11okay

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