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  12. 6:59there hey Chand how are you doing not
  13. 7:01good good good what you guys switch
  14. 7:03spots yeah don't sit in that red
  15. 7:05sh
  16. 7:08yeah what's
  17. 7:16water what's going
  18. 7:18on all right um so we're just going to
  19. 7:20talk to you a little bit more okay um
  20. 7:31all right just so you know I'm going to
  21. 7:32I'm record stuff okay just helps to
  22. 7:34remember everything and picks up
  23. 7:37everything that we talk
  24. 7:42about all right um so Brian chunk
  25. 7:46detective Dan and Sheriff's we spoke
  26. 7:48yesterday Jers yep that was your middle
  27. 7:51initial J am Michael Michael and then
  28. 7:55your birth date
  29. 7:563:15 1998
  30. 7:59got it then your cell phone I already
  31. 8:01had we've been talking on that
  32. 8:05um so obviously we're we're here we want
  33. 8:08to talk a little bit about uh your
  34. 8:11parents going missing right Kristen
  35. 8:13Bart
  36. 8:15um before we get started just because
  37. 8:18you're up here okay so I'm just going to
  38. 8:20read you your constitutional rights okay
  39. 8:22so this a Dame County issued card that
  40. 8:25they give us um so I'll just read them
  41. 8:27to you right off the card okay uh you
  42. 8:30have the right to remain silent anything
  43. 8:31you say can and will be used against you
  44. 8:33in a court of law you have the right to
  45. 8:35consult with a lawyer before questioning
  46. 8:37and to have a lawyer present with you
  47. 8:38during questioning if you cannot afford
  48. 8:40to hire a lawyer one will be appointed
  49. 8:42to represent you at public expense
  50. 8:44before during any questioning if you so
  51. 8:46wish if you decide to answer questions
  52. 8:48now without a lawyer present you have
  53. 8:50the right to stop the question and
  54. 8:52remain silent at any time you wish and
  55. 8:54the right to ask for and have a lawyer
  56. 8:55at any time you wish including during
  57. 8:57the question okay be understand the
  58. 9:00rights that is reg I do okay realizing
  59. 9:02that you have these rights are you not
  60. 9:04willing to answer questions or make a
  61. 9:16statement just need a yes yeah so the
  62. 9:19second one so I'll just read it again
  63. 9:21realizing that you have these rights are
  64. 9:22you now willing to answer questions or
  65. 9:24make a statement oh I will make a
  66. 9:26statement okay so you understand them
  67. 9:29you
  68. 9:30could I have the card so I could read it
  69. 9:32I missed some um I'm sorry
  70. 9:35I'm I still having a little bit of coms
  71. 9:38the the third one I'll just I'll read it
  72. 9:41we start all over
  73. 9:43yeah so you have the right to remain
  74. 9:46silent anything you say can and will be
  75. 9:48used against you in ACC court of law you
  76. 9:50have the right to consult with a lawyer
  77. 9:52before questioning and to have a lawyer
  78. 9:54present with you during questioning if
  79. 9:56you cannot afford to hire a lawyer one
  80. 9:58will be appointed to represent you you
  81. 9:59at public expense before or during any
  82. 10:01questioning if you so wish if you decide
  83. 10:04to answer questions now without a lawyer
  84. 10:06present you have the right to stop the
  85. 10:07questioning and remain silent at any
  86. 10:09time you wish and the right to ask for
  87. 10:11and have a lawyer at any time you wish
  88. 10:13including during the questioning okay so
  89. 10:15then the only two questions I asked were
  90. 10:17do you understand yeah I understand and
  91. 10:19I am willing to make a statement okay
  92. 10:23perfect all right um so like like we
  93. 10:26already said I talked to you yesterday
  94. 10:29um
  95. 10:30so today is July 88th U it's about 511
  96. 10:33now we started talking at 5:08 um so
  97. 10:36yesterday July 7th I came to your house
  98. 10:39um where you live with your parents Bart
  99. 10:42and Christa um
  100. 10:44helders and um the reason I was there is
  101. 10:48is you had gone to the Windsor Police
  102. 10:50Department and reported them missing
  103. 10:52right yes okay um I didn't go to the
  104. 10:55department I went to the like office
  105. 10:58break room mhm area in the same
  106. 11:01building I think it's mixed in with the
  107. 11:04city hall okay but nonetheless that you
  108. 11:08came and and spoke to you okay
  109. 11:11um so you you reported your parents
  110. 11:13missing we got some information for me
  111. 11:16yesterday um we've been following leads
  112. 11:18last night um working today to you know
  113. 11:21go through different things um just
  114. 11:23trying to locate them right um so I I
  115. 11:28guess if you want to start
  116. 11:30with let's just go back to to last
  117. 11:34Wednesday uh
  118. 11:36Wednesday I was with my
  119. 11:39Dad we what time Wednesday I remember it
  120. 11:43it was kind of a bad day okay why was it
  121. 11:47a bad day
  122. 11:49um well my M had work so she was gone
  123. 11:53um my dad and I were watching something
  124. 11:57over lunch it was uh Wheel of
  125. 12:00Fortune and we have we normally have the
  126. 12:04couch like with our back facing our the
  127. 12:06table we sat at at the end of you coming
  128. 12:10downstairs or Upstairs Downstairs that
  129. 12:12room with the TV I tossed the
  130. 12:15ball and I smashed the
  131. 12:18glass okay with the dog the dog's help
  132. 12:23uh that yeah set my dad off and we tried
  133. 12:27to clean it up
  134. 12:31okay I don't know about him but I got
  135. 12:33injured um but he was mad he didn't
  136. 12:38really talk to me too much that
  137. 12:42day my mom got home at 5: I believe
  138. 12:46I that's her normal 5:20 to
  139. 12:515:30 what time does she work you know
  140. 12:547:30 is when she leaves I don't know her
  141. 12:56hours but I know when she leaves it's
  142. 12:587:30
  143. 13:00and
  144. 13:01then all the way up till 5: and she she
  145. 13:04comes home 5:20
  146. 13:075:30 did she come home about 5:20 5:30
  147. 13:11that day I believe so yeah
  148. 13:15okay
  149. 13:17um so you guys are are downstairs um
  150. 13:21just to to touch back in that quick so
  151. 13:23the couch so yesterday when we were down
  152. 13:25in your basement the couches were in a
  153. 13:28bed I he helped me put him in a bed
  154. 13:31before yeah on Thursday but they put it
  155. 13:34into a bed so I could sleep near the
  156. 13:37bathroom and the dog sleep in that floor
  157. 13:40so okay they they'll be a lot better if
  158. 13:42they're sleeping on that floor
  159. 13:44downstairs floor yeah just cooler for
  160. 13:46him or something kind of probably okay
  161. 13:51all right so you were tossing a ball
  162. 13:52what type of ball was
  163. 13:54it it's this gross hairy tennis ball
  164. 13:58that OLS all right just like a green
  165. 14:01tennis ball like a normal yeah okay the
  166. 14:04with the squeaker not not like a tennis
  167. 14:06racket ball but they don't chew my dog
  168. 14:08chews those out of the any tennis ball
  169. 14:10they just chew the squeakers out and
  170. 14:12then they don't play with them anymore
  171. 14:14um all right so you just tossing that
  172. 14:15around um broke the fireplace glass uh
  173. 14:19you said you were injured what type of
  174. 14:20injury did I got a pretty deep hole in
  175. 14:22my foot uh last night Mary looked at it
  176. 14:25and she said the reason it keeps
  177. 14:27bleeding is cuz there's glass in it
  178. 14:29oh that's the you showed us your yeah I
  179. 14:31showed the detective
  180. 14:34Le
  181. 14:35yeah okay yeah
  182. 14:39so that one it could be infected is what
  183. 14:43she's thinking but neopor is been
  184. 14:45helping okay good um keeping it clean
  185. 14:48and
  186. 14:50stuff best you can I I know how I guess
  187. 14:54um okay uh once I oh Wednesday back to
  188. 14:58Wednesday once I got got all the glass
  189. 14:59out of the dog's hair um she didn't
  190. 15:03sustain any injuries good nothing even
  191. 15:07on her nose she got it with her shoulder
  192. 15:09bone I
  193. 15:11believe
  194. 15:15um so glass dog that was roughly around
  195. 15:21two and then the rest he didn't really
  196. 15:24talk to me I went back to
  197. 15:27doing like a job search kind of just
  198. 15:32[ __ ] my day away just g games
  199. 15:35YouTube
  200. 15:37maybe uh that's when I came across one
  201. 15:39of the jobs I liked um then 5:00 rolled
  202. 15:43up by and we mom came home um
  203. 15:49dinner what you guys have Wednesday
  204. 15:51night I could oh yeah
  205. 15:55okay who made
  206. 15:57it I think it was was probably just
  207. 16:00stuff from the fridge I don't I think we
  208. 16:02all did our own thing again
  209. 16:07sure by the way a detective at my house
  210. 16:10said Something's Happened and while we
  211. 16:12were leaving people were going inside is
  212. 16:15there warrant for my
  213. 16:17house should there be no I'm just
  214. 16:20wondering if Okay can they go in as far
  215. 16:23as I know they were at your house and
  216. 16:25they were going to be there talking to
  217. 16:27you to ask if you would come up here and
  218. 16:30talk to us yeah but um officer
  219. 16:33Haley just like walked pretty much in to
  220. 16:37the gate you know the gate on the
  221. 16:39outside she just kind of walked in I was
  222. 16:41I was wondering if was that when you
  223. 16:43were getting your wallet uh no we were
  224. 16:46we were um I was in the car waiting to
  225. 16:48leave I was just wondering if
  226. 16:50everything's okay cuz she said
  227. 16:52Something's Happened okay and we need to
  228. 16:55go down all right I'll find out what
  229. 16:57that's about well has anything bad
  230. 17:00happened not sure all right so so
  231. 17:04Wednesday night mom comes home um Dad
  232. 17:06was angry was was he yelling or what was
  233. 17:10how how would you describe dad being
  234. 17:11angry it
  235. 17:13was if you he would yell if you said
  236. 17:18something to him I guess if you talk to
  237. 17:20him if you give him his space he'll be
  238. 17:23okay so Wednesday night Wednesday if you
  239. 17:27just give him his space
  240. 17:30that's all we did just give him his
  241. 17:31space he he wouldn't yell or do anything
  242. 17:36okay that's all we had to do um just m
  243. 17:40and I went to clean to do some
  244. 17:44laundry uh make our
  245. 17:48beds stuff like that who's we m i your
  246. 17:53mom
  247. 17:56okay that was Wednesday night yeah yeah
  248. 17:59we had an early night no no TV that
  249. 18:02night gotta
  250. 18:06um what time did your parents go to bed
  251. 18:08Wednesday night you think I was in bed
  252. 18:11at 8 I you yeah
  253. 18:16okay yeah
  254. 18:21um I couldn't tell you when they went to
  255. 18:23bed okay no worries and you were
  256. 18:26downstairs that's where you event s you
  257. 18:29told me last night no I was in my room
  258. 18:30Wednesday upstairs
  259. 18:38okay gota so in the bedroom
  260. 18:42upstairs and then you you slip down
  261. 18:46downstairs why have you been sleeping
  262. 18:47downstairs again you told me last
  263. 18:49bathroom the bathroom's right I need to
  264. 18:51be close cuz stairs I I can't see too
  265. 18:53well in the dark M so
  266. 18:59true and just like last night I'm doting
  267. 19:01some noes but you know it doesn't mean
  268. 19:03one thing is more important than the
  269. 19:04other it just means that I need to
  270. 19:05remember stuff and I understand
  271. 19:09Goa all right so did you sleep with your
  272. 19:11door closed that night or open oh yeah I
  273. 19:13always have it closed closed over that
  274. 19:15makes
  275. 19:16sense I feeling they argued a little bit
  276. 19:19after parents did what were they arguing
  277. 19:23about probably would set my dad off that
  278. 19:25day the
  279. 19:27glass um us not having food
  280. 19:31ready and stuff like that we I mean we
  281. 19:34just microwave whatever is in the fridge
  282. 19:37I suppose yeah who was upset about that
  283. 19:42Dad Dad was okay he usually doesn't like
  284. 19:45that he likes the wouldn't cook night
  285. 19:50okay does he ever cook I haven't seen
  286. 19:53him cook oh he grills he he likes to
  287. 19:56grill he grilled on Thursday nice
  288. 20:00all I think I told one officer that
  289. 20:04green
  290. 20:05egg he got um it makes terrible food but
  291. 20:11yeah Dad does yeah oh the Green Egg it's
  292. 20:14oh the Green Egg that's like a grill or
  293. 20:16something yeah it's insulated and like s
  294. 20:19Smokey oh
  295. 20:21okay um it's Thursday
  296. 20:25morning I wake up
  297. 20:32what time is it 6 okay
  298. 20:36dogs we talked about that yesterday 6
  299. 20:38a.m. is kind of your deal right 6 a.m. y
  300. 20:41that internal clock now yeah used thing
  301. 20:45for a
  302. 20:47while
  303. 20:50six I don't off any
  304. 20:53breakfast so I kind of just stay in my
  305. 20:56room on my phone
  306. 20:58um helped my mom out getting
  307. 21:02ready in the morning she she left for
  308. 21:05work at
  309. 21:077:30 I got
  310. 21:10her whatever she had to do what was
  311. 21:17it this is meaningless tasks like just
  312. 21:22daily like pillowcase changes and Sheet
  313. 21:26changes stuff like that you know in the
  314. 21:29morning before work yeah that's what we
  315. 21:33always do
  316. 21:37um then she's
  317. 21:43gone um my dad starts the grill around
  318. 21:478:39 in the morning yeah to get the
  319. 21:50temperature
  320. 21:53right was he working from home that day
  321. 21:56or yes okay
  322. 22:01we um we ate the grill nothing really
  323. 22:04happened between that we kind of either
  324. 22:06we're outside with the dogs from the
  325. 22:09lighting of the
  326. 22:10grill him going in taking a couple
  327. 22:14calls now and then or emails or
  328. 22:17something but we just kind of watched
  329. 22:19the grill and waited to get it set
  330. 22:20steady at uh hamburgers for 350
  331. 22:26is then
  332. 22:30so yeah we just kind of
  333. 22:33waited for the
  334. 22:35burgers
  335. 22:37um and then we had we ate noon
  336. 22:46NO3 or 12:30 sorry
  337. 22:49sure
  338. 22:51um then we went inside and had our TV
  339. 22:56show again Wheel of Fortune it's always
  340. 22:58on around their time for
  341. 23:00lunch or was it Family Feud that Family
  342. 23:04Feud was
  343. 23:06Thursday
  344. 23:09um where did you guys watch
  345. 23:11that okay did you guys have a TV
  346. 23:14upstairs I don't remember no no
  347. 23:18okay
  348. 23:25um sorry I'm really trying to the memor
  349. 23:28um
  350. 23:30that's then yeah we went to go do our
  351. 23:34own things I went back to a little bit
  352. 23:37more job searching this time I branched
  353. 23:39into to Forest instead of just Windsor
  354. 23:42looking he went back to work we
  355. 23:46planned
  356. 23:53on something in
  357. 23:59oh we
  358. 24:06were I don't know something went well
  359. 24:08for him so that's
  360. 24:12all
  361. 24:15um then we were hanging out again my M
  362. 24:26texts um I I believe believe I text her
  363. 24:29everything's going well uh his phone
  364. 24:31died my dad he he
  365. 24:34didn't he's kind of like charged it put
  366. 24:37it on the
  367. 24:38dock and left
  368. 24:41it
  369. 24:42um then we just kind of hung out and my
  370. 24:45M gets home and I uh start the I start
  371. 24:50shrimp scampy for my dad CU that's what
  372. 24:53he wanted but we didn't have shrimp so I
  373. 24:55made shrimp scampy
  374. 25:04um that's that's where they told me
  375. 25:06while we were eating it they they were
  376. 25:08going to go with their friends and I was
  377. 25:10like oh
  378. 25:12cool um and they said they were going c
  379. 25:18yeah we're going up north that's how
  380. 25:20they refer to it who said that Mom or
  381. 25:23Dad ma my my dad doesn't talk while eats
  382. 25:27okay um
  383. 25:29so there we are at Thursday dinner up
  384. 25:32north of the cabin my dad says I'll need
  385. 25:34a set for pipe repair and
  386. 25:38gas so I'm like all
  387. 25:41right I grabbed the pipe repair stuff
  388. 25:44from his um Plumbing chest or plumbing
  389. 25:48plumbing box it's like a tote of what
  390. 25:51you need for pipe repair
  391. 25:56mm um and
  392. 26:00two whatever Jerry cans I can't remember
  393. 26:04the
  394. 26:05amount but they're red with the safety
  395. 26:10nozzles got those squared away they had
  396. 26:13most of their duffles already packed at
  397. 26:16that point and we all just started
  398. 26:18bringing them down to the mud room with
  399. 26:21the shoes yeah by the garage where you
  400. 26:23showing
  401. 26:27me um
  402. 26:29after that we
  403. 26:31watched
  404. 26:38uh is a Netflix original um you know
  405. 26:42seven underground with the thrill
  406. 26:45seeking
  407. 26:47like it's like they they fake their
  408. 26:50deaths and they they fly airplanes and
  409. 26:54um they like fight at of evil of the
  410. 26:57world by being
  411. 26:59ghosts pretty cool I don't think I've
  412. 27:02seen that
  413. 27:02one who was watching that the three of
  414. 27:05us all three of you okay all three and
  415. 27:08that put it at N9 they had their
  416. 27:12drinks
  417. 27:15um went to my computer my computer was
  418. 27:18at that that black table we sat at sure
  419. 27:21you saw the stuff
  420. 27:25um played played a video game called
  421. 27:29tarov for till
  422. 27:33midnight well after midnight maybe even
  423. 27:37kind of lose track of time and my
  424. 27:40parents by then were asleep got their
  425. 27:42teethbrush and
  426. 27:45everything
  427. 27:48um then I got I got
  428. 27:52upstairs oh that was Thursday yeah so I
  429. 27:55did so we got the bed all set before
  430. 27:59they before we played
  431. 28:00tarov and that's when I crawled into bed
  432. 28:04from the the black table so after our
  433. 28:07movie we set up my my couch bed and um
  434. 28:12the pillows for the girls who helped you
  435. 28:15set the bed up my dad okay yes he knew
  436. 28:18he was leaving and I would need
  437. 28:21that
  438. 28:23um Friday
  439. 28:26morning I woke up they had left with the
  440. 28:30stuff was all set out they remember the
  441. 28:35gas um I found the the the folding
  442. 28:40chairs that they wanted to bring but
  443. 28:42they never brought them I'm assuming
  444. 28:45they can fit them they
  445. 28:48big so I put those away
  446. 28:54um that was Friday morning I go upstairs
  447. 28:59do the dog or feed the
  448. 29:01dogs it was around 6ish not 6:15 when I
  449. 29:06woke up I was a little late that day
  450. 29:086:15
  451. 29:10for uh just when I looked at my phone
  452. 29:16mhm
  453. 29:17dogs saw my Ma's note the insurance for
  454. 29:22my
  455. 29:24appointment I
  456. 29:26just ate whatever was on the counter I
  457. 29:29think it was
  458. 29:35cornbread where was the note from your
  459. 29:38mom that was on the the kitchen like
  460. 29:41there's a peninsula yeah with the
  461. 29:43insurance stacked up but I I moved it to
  462. 29:46the table
  463. 29:50okay and then those insurance cards were
  464. 29:52there also that we saw yesterday yeah
  465. 29:55okay um I don't think she knew which one
  466. 29:58I would
  467. 29:59need but I have three now mhm
  468. 30:10um Friday
  469. 30:12yeah out with cat Friday night I believe
  470. 30:16would you do Friday during the day oh oh
  471. 30:19yeah let's work backwards
  472. 30:25um I got the play video games okay
  473. 30:30parents are gone why not right yeah I
  474. 30:33didn't do anything that I should have I
  475. 30:35should have been cleaning and all
  476. 30:40that the house seemed pretty clean when
  477. 30:43I was there you see all the dog hair
  478. 30:45that that's got to be gone comes along
  479. 30:47with it right
  480. 30:49yeah all right so Friday during the day
  481. 30:52just played video games kind of yeah
  482. 30:55then after work I believe
  483. 30:58that was the day cat came over after
  484. 31:00whose work cat she is five is her work
  485. 31:04when she was
  486. 31:06off believe she came
  487. 31:11over
  488. 31:15um so she has done her own five cat came
  489. 31:18at five you said I don't think she went
  490. 31:21straight herea I I over um it could have
  491. 31:27been later like maybe give her time for
  492. 31:29like getting
  493. 31:30cloth
  494. 31:38um it was after
  495. 31:40work where she work at she works
  496. 31:43downtown Middleton is a farm Tech okay
  497. 31:48she um I believe she stayed with me on
  498. 31:51that couch that
  499. 31:55night so she spent the night over
  500. 32:04yeah he guys both suck on the couch
  501. 32:06downstairs
  502. 32:09yeah
  503. 32:11um what' you do before you was Friday
  504. 32:18night that might have been my own night
  505. 32:21I might be wrong I'm wrong okay I think
  506. 32:23I spent that night alone I just kind of
  507. 32:25gamed online
  508. 32:28with some my
  509. 32:29friends I said Saturday night I'm so
  510. 32:33sorry guys no worries man so one night I
  511. 32:37GED alone all
  512. 32:40night one night cat spent the night on
  513. 32:44the
  514. 32:45couch oh and Sunday she spent the night
  515. 32:47in my bed with me she help me out stairs
  516. 32:52Sunday night I know that
  517. 32:54because she didn't want to spend another
  518. 32:57night on the couch
  519. 32:58bed she didn't like
  520. 33:00it and she went to work on Monday
  521. 33:03morning so that was my bed night we um
  522. 33:09backtracking one night she spent on the
  523. 33:13couch me with like the couch bed we've
  524. 33:16made mhm but one night I gamed all night
  525. 33:21or all day and night pretty much and I'm
  526. 33:24pretty sure that was
  527. 33:28Friday night and let's go with Saturday
  528. 33:31was my night alone
  529. 33:34okay so Friday we believe she came over
  530. 33:38yes and then Saturday was the game night
  531. 33:42yes so back tracking to
  532. 33:45Friday when she came
  533. 33:48by
  534. 33:51we um actually we just um oh right no
  535. 33:58right um there's this movie or TV series
  536. 34:02on Netflix we watched pretty much the
  537. 34:04entirety of that into the morning it was
  538. 34:10um apocalypse show okay I don't know the
  539. 34:16name what time do you guys think you
  540. 34:18went to
  541. 34:22bed I say we stayed up well
  542. 34:26until 10 I would say
  543. 34:30p.m yeah okay got to be at
  544. 34:35least
  545. 34:38um the
  546. 34:45morning Saturday we didn't do much she
  547. 34:49left
  548. 34:51um this is when I'm really starting to
  549. 34:54notice my legs okay I'm kind of having
  550. 34:57and uh the anxiety and all of that and
  551. 35:01like getting a little frustrated with
  552. 35:03myself and all that like I it wasn't too
  553. 35:06bad
  554. 35:08until like last week Tuesday when I
  555. 35:11started noticing it and Saturday was
  556. 35:14like the peak and it's kind of stayed
  557. 35:17out like this okay Peak anxiety and and
  558. 35:22this kind of like set me like f for some
  559. 35:26space and I was kind of gamed
  560. 35:30Saturday
  561. 35:32um couldn't tell you when I went to bed
  562. 35:35I I think I might have even stayed up
  563. 35:37till
  564. 35:38two that
  565. 35:41yeah
  566. 35:47um yeah it just the same game escape
  567. 35:50from
  568. 35:52tarov
  569. 35:54um all right I couldn't get a hold of
  570. 35:56any of my friends play with
  571. 35:58unfortunately I played like some here
  572. 36:00and there mhm from Discord but none
  573. 36:04would like stick around for that late in
  574. 36:07the
  575. 36:08night then we get to Sunday it's the
  576. 36:144th the morning I'm a little worried
  577. 36:16about my
  578. 36:18family I think I called my
  579. 36:21mom oh throughout I've called I I don't
  580. 36:24know the times though
  581. 36:28throughout the weekend I mean but I
  582. 36:29called my M I
  583. 36:31believe in the morning or along those
  584. 36:34lines and I get a text from
  585. 36:37her it was a text message it wasn't even
  586. 36:40an iMessage so mhm I
  587. 36:43assume she said white L
  588. 36:46today so she sent it that
  589. 36:50day
  590. 36:52um I couldn't figure out where she was
  591. 36:55there because there was a text there was
  592. 36:57no my message so I kind of just like
  593. 36:59left it at that they're safe they're
  594. 37:02alive
  595. 37:08then get to the
  596. 37:11afternoon I'm talking to
  597. 37:15Dan I call him up and I ask him well
  598. 37:19what he's
  599. 37:21doing or maybe that was the morning but
  600. 37:24I I called Dan that Sunday ask him what
  601. 37:27what he's up to if you wanted to hang
  602. 37:30out I don't like being alone at the
  603. 37:32house very
  604. 37:34long Dan is mom's coworker slf friend
  605. 37:37yeah he's
  606. 37:39guy
  607. 37:41um go over there for he invited me for
  608. 37:46fireworks in his his
  609. 37:54driveway um he said better you said
  610. 37:56yesterday he them forest or Windsor yeah
  611. 38:00close Okay I couldn't I could point it
  612. 38:03at a map one or the other I
  613. 38:06think so throughout the day um the dogs
  614. 38:11it's just me and the dogs the fireworks
  615. 38:14and the dogs are like running around in
  616. 38:17into things I'm trying to keep them okay
  617. 38:20all they're doing is knocking stuff over
  618. 38:24spilled their water they haven't
  619. 38:26eaten it won't go outside for me um even
  620. 38:30on a leash I could get
  621. 38:32them
  622. 38:34out what was the deal with that
  623. 38:36fireworks oh the fireworks are spooking
  624. 38:38them so much yeah all day
  625. 38:41so I put them both into the the fort
  626. 38:45crank the
  627. 38:50TV did that seem to help at all with
  628. 38:53them yeah the the loud TV help um Rizo
  629. 38:58doesn't like or maybe does like new girl
  630. 39:02for the TV show so we watch that Stu
  631. 39:05it's the theme song that gets her I
  632. 39:06think she
  633. 39:09barks
  634. 39:10um so we watched
  635. 39:14that um Izzy fell asleep so Izzy's the
  636. 39:19the old dog old one so it's Sunday we
  637. 39:23Sunday evening cat comes by to help me
  638. 39:27with the girls so she wasn't there
  639. 39:29during the day no no it was just me and
  640. 39:32the dogs she left Sunday morning okay
  641. 39:36from
  642. 39:37the no no she
  643. 39:42left Saturday morning because I spent
  644. 39:45Saturday by myself I see that and then
  645. 39:48Sunday it was just me and the girls
  646. 39:53till whenever cat got
  647. 39:56there we
  648. 39:59together I don't
  649. 40:02think no this is Sunday this is Sunday
  650. 40:05so I went to cat's
  651. 40:08house on Sunday I actually yeah so that
  652. 40:12was Sunday morning is when I left the
  653. 40:14girls so all of Sunday morning I had the
  654. 40:18girls in the Ford we watched new girl I
  655. 40:21went the cat's house Sunday to eat but
  656. 40:24we ended up not eating there we went to
  657. 40:27to um crest's
  658. 40:31house it's Cottage Grove or Cascade no
  659. 40:38cedarberg it's a sea town
  660. 40:43area Okay um is it where is it near I've
  661. 40:48never was that Chris oh Chris Chris so
  662. 40:51CR is you seen her in my phone yeah yeah
  663. 40:54I saw the calls to her she that's your
  664. 40:57out with everything cat's mom's
  665. 41:00girlfriend mom's girlfriend okay I try
  666. 41:03to talk to her as much cuz she's like I
  667. 41:06don't know Wise and she really helps me
  668. 41:09with what's going on with me CU I've
  669. 41:11been in a slump I'd say
  670. 41:15okay so went to cats house Sunday to eat
  671. 41:18what time do you think you went over
  672. 41:22there food at 3:30 is what I said so
  673. 41:26about 3 3 3 3:30 you went over to cats
  674. 41:30oh I was at cats well before I was out
  675. 41:32there noon okay noon let's say where
  676. 41:36does Cat live the east side east side of
  677. 41:39Madison
  678. 41:40I
  679. 41:42yeah you know I'm sure I can look it up
  680. 41:45but you know the RO at all or Taffer or
  681. 41:50Andrew Lane tfer okay I'll work it up
  682. 41:54that's fine we're in so you went met her
  683. 41:57Sunday about noon um what' you guys do
  684. 42:01at her place
  685. 42:03well she realized my legs I wouldn't be
  686. 42:06able to do stuff with them so her her
  687. 42:09brother and her brother's date went to a
  688. 42:13thrift store while she had me sleep
  689. 42:18just she just put me to bed and they
  690. 42:22went and then they get home around
  691. 42:252:30 cat and I rush back to my house let
  692. 42:29the girls out and we go back straight to
  693. 42:32the
  694. 42:33farm okay where you at the farm before
  695. 42:35you went to let the dogs out or no we
  696. 42:38were at cat's like it's like a duplex so
  697. 42:41Cat's Cat's house Sunday around noon um
  698. 42:45you went to sleep well cat her
  699. 42:49sister her brother Cat's brother and his
  700. 42:52date and his date okay sorry about that
  701. 42:57to a thrift
  702. 42:58store then then we went to crest's and
  703. 43:02we ate um after that James left after
  704. 43:06dinner leaving his date with us and we
  705. 43:09we took a
  706. 43:10swim after the swim we we left
  707. 43:15um went to cat's house to drop off his
  708. 43:19date the date stayed at cat's
  709. 43:25house I think the dat
  710. 43:28it was a rose maybe is what her name was
  711. 43:32Rose um have you ever met her before no
  712. 43:35this was a Tinder match from her brother
  713. 43:38Cat's brother
  714. 43:47okay what time you suppose you guys want
  715. 43:50to cross his house so got cats are on
  716. 43:53no: they got back cat and I went to my
  717. 43:56house
  718. 43:58to let the dogs out then we
  719. 44:00left oh I think we got
  720. 44:04gas and then we went to crestes so I
  721. 44:06would say we got
  722. 44:09to it was maybe four when we got there
  723. 44:13we were late for
  724. 44:14dinner but it was good cuz it was still
  725. 44:16setting
  726. 44:19up where did you guys get gas said do
  727. 44:21you remember that one of the quick trips
  728. 44:24in town I I can't remember
  729. 44:28I'm sorry
  730. 44:31um when you say in town and we talking
  731. 44:34to Forest some divest it had to be
  732. 44:40okay I think we got I I'm still not
  733. 44:44super sure but I know we we were doing
  734. 44:47something on the way or we didn't do
  735. 44:49something I thought we were going to do
  736. 44:51a return but I'm jumbling it right now
  737. 44:54so just have that we went to my house
  738. 44:57and back the crestes we were late okay
  739. 45:00for
  740. 45:02dinner what were you guys driving were
  741. 45:05you in your cat's red
  742. 45:07Subaru okay was she driving or you she
  743. 45:11she drives that cats her
  744. 45:14car red Subaru something yeah she it's
  745. 45:18at my house right now oh okay and your
  746. 45:21RO with her
  747. 45:25yes um where did you guys go for a swim
  748. 45:28there's like a little pool up at the
  749. 45:31cress's house oh she's been helping me
  750. 45:33with my walking and everything and they
  751. 45:36get me
  752. 45:37there okay is it indoor or outdoor
  753. 45:41outdoor must been nice with how hot of
  754. 45:43that has been yeah they got something
  755. 45:46fancy to heat it from the Sun okay but
  756. 45:49that was three of us
  757. 45:52yeah then we went back to around six no
  758. 45:59later maybe seven went back to cat's
  759. 46:04apartment dropped off
  760. 46:05Rose got cat's dirty or wet clothes she
  761. 46:11had wet
  762. 46:12clothes because she was going to dry
  763. 46:15them and we went to my house
  764. 46:19together so Rose got dropped off the cat
  765. 46:22yeah the duplex in the east side okay
  766. 46:27was James with you guys at that point or
  767. 46:30no James left after dinner around 4:30
  768. 46:39okay got to keep day
  769. 46:43planners was he not getting along with
  770. 46:45rose or no he he had work oh okay
  771. 46:51um that
  772. 46:54sucks working on the 4th of July
  773. 46:57um
  774. 46:59something so you Dro did Rose get
  775. 47:02dropped off at cat duplex then yes we
  776. 47:05refer to cat's house is a duplex y Crest
  777. 47:09Crest is the farm you grow berries y my
  778. 47:14house is my house that's how I refer
  779. 47:17gotcha gotcha
  780. 47:21um where are we Sunday night about 7
  781. 47:25Sunday night about 7 get Rose dropped
  782. 47:28off we get to my
  783. 47:30house and we go to my house in De Forest
  784. 47:34witer we feed the
  785. 47:36girls we put her clothes that she
  786. 47:39brought the wet stuff in the dryer
  787. 47:42because that's what she needed to
  788. 47:45do we get her clothes
  789. 47:47dry uh that's after we get back
  790. 47:50actually
  791. 47:52um and then we go to dance okay um for
  792. 47:57the fireworks that he asked us to come
  793. 47:59by
  794. 48:018:30 um for some reason I I was trying
  795. 48:04to leave
  796. 48:06but I was making a a joke about it that
  797. 48:09we're we're going to be late like stuff
  798. 48:11like that goofy crab uh I drove to dance
  799. 48:16okay which car were you my dad's super a
  800. 48:19blue you wanted
  801. 48:21to
  802. 48:23yeah
  803. 48:25gotta then we get there we stay for 45
  804. 48:30to an hour there that's how I got the
  805. 48:33bottle rocket
  806. 48:36marks
  807. 48:38that the Sparks and I think this was a
  808. 48:42wad or something that flew back shot
  809. 48:44back out it yeah that one stuck in for a
  810. 48:47little bit that's why it's so bad but
  811. 48:50these are spars okay those are a dance
  812. 48:52house you got those dance a
  813. 48:55dance I I didn't know the stick you you
  814. 48:59don't hold the stick the stick flies
  815. 49:01with it oh sure I didn't
  816. 49:04know
  817. 49:10um you're over at Dan house about 45
  818. 49:14minutes to an hour yeah get my hands a
  819. 49:16little bit oh you find a firework that
  820. 49:20it spins and takes off and it went
  821. 49:23straight to the
  822. 49:24bush so we were like no more of that
  823. 49:28we're done
  824. 49:32um did light the Bush on fire no no
  825. 49:37thankfully it wasn't hot enough for that
  826. 49:39good after that we cleaned I gave him a
  827. 49:43bottle of wine as a thank you for
  828. 49:44letting
  829. 49:45this
  830. 49:48come I thankfully I still have a couple
  831. 49:52bottles at home
  832. 49:58um while we're there Dan had a few beers
  833. 50:02his girlfriend was there or fiance or or
  834. 50:06wife I'm not sure their relationship but
  835. 50:10she was
  836. 50:11there her name never got her
  837. 50:15name just Dan's girlfriend she's got
  838. 50:18purple hair she's it at MATC like the
  839. 50:21school is all in
  840. 50:23it okay anybody else there just the two
  841. 50:27of us and then the neighbors watched one
  842. 50:30to our left and one across the street
  843. 50:33one
  844. 50:35group um the one across the street had
  845. 50:38some cooler stuff than I've ever seen a
  846. 50:41person be able to own a firework
  847. 50:46wise um but there there we are and then
  848. 50:51then someone in the distance kind of
  849. 50:53closer to our house launched a mortar
  850. 50:57artillery Firework and then I was like
  851. 51:01okay we have to go home for the dogs so
  852. 51:03we went and that was
  853. 51:08pushing 9:30
  854. 51:109:45 we got
  855. 51:13home we uh got into the couch
  856. 51:25Fort and put on Daybreak was the
  857. 51:28apocalypse show
  858. 51:30Daybreak
  859. 51:32um I put on that because we're trying to
  860. 51:35finish it on Netflix
  861. 51:37yes um this is cat and I still she was
  862. 51:40spending the night um the whole time
  863. 51:43dogs are pushing me nosing me and
  864. 51:46everything and so we kind of stop and
  865. 51:50and stop watching and she goes to
  866. 51:52bed
  867. 51:54um I'm trying to let the dogs that are
  868. 51:57at least go back in a little bit but the
  869. 51:59fireworks they she they
  870. 52:03couldn't
  871. 52:04um we get to bed upstairs in my
  872. 52:08room because she doesn't like the couch
  873. 52:12and she had work in the morning
  874. 52:14yeah and I'd say that's 10ish 10
  875. 52:2010:30 and the whole time the younger dog
  876. 52:23keeps jumping on us um so I leave cat in
  877. 52:27the bed and I go sit out out down in the
  878. 52:31the the couches and chairs down by the
  879. 52:34real dinner table mhm I go sit there and
  880. 52:37just hang out with the dog so can't get
  881. 52:40asleep where we first started talking
  882. 52:42last night kitchen dining room and the
  883. 52:44couches okay I sit down there so cat can
  884. 52:47get some sleep cuz I don't work tomorrow
  885. 52:49she does
  886. 52:50MHM um then I put the ladder in front of
  887. 52:53those steps so the girls can't come up
  888. 52:57I uh they pee on the kitchen the ties so
  889. 53:02I clean that and like well at least they
  890. 53:05went before bed you know it wasn't the
  891. 53:07worst thing they're not going to go
  892. 53:08outside
  893. 53:10yeah then I go to
  894. 53:14bed then it's Monday
  895. 53:17morning cat goes to work 750 is maybe
  896. 53:23earlier then I'm left to myself
  897. 53:27so we put on new girl in the couch for
  898. 53:30it on Monday morning
  899. 53:34MH I go back and forth through some
  900. 53:36video games and then back and video
  901. 53:48games back and
  902. 53:55then that like to stand up very good
  903. 53:58yeah I'm sorry trying to stretch a
  904. 53:59little bit while I'm sitting hurts
  905. 54:02um you grow video games this is
  906. 54:09Monday um we're again later I have a
  907. 54:12little bit of tea for
  908. 54:18lunch all right well at the end of the
  909. 54:21day on
  910. 54:22Monday I did
  911. 54:24go for the
  912. 54:26afternoon I did go to the farm to talk
  913. 54:30to Crest and Cat's
  914. 54:32mom I told them what's happening with my
  915. 54:35health because I had the appointment at
  916. 54:37two did you go to the farm before or
  917. 54:40after after because I told them what
  918. 54:42happened to me and I told them the legs
  919. 54:46are probably going to be permanent and
  920. 54:48the headaches should be fixed after the
  921. 54:51Hemorrhage is cleared a little
  922. 54:54bit so
  923. 54:57now that I'm
  924. 55:01there I talked to their mom
  925. 55:07um and Crest
  926. 55:09together
  927. 55:11and I think cat's mom is all right with
  928. 55:16me
  929. 55:19she's I don't know she wants me to move
  930. 55:21into her the East Side cat's house okay
  931. 55:26and start paying rent as an apartment
  932. 55:28because she doesn't like to live at home
  933. 55:30does cat live with their mom or cat has
  934. 55:32an apartment okay
  935. 55:35somewhere cat does yeah it's on it's by
  936. 55:39Mifflin okay the party Avenue it's by
  937. 55:42there
  938. 55:47um
  939. 55:49okay so I'm there talking to their mom
  940. 55:52and
  941. 55:54Chris then I um
  942. 55:57then I go up to have you know a
  943. 56:02breakdown by their shed and they go
  944. 56:06swimming um right by the swimming pool
  945. 56:09is the shed so they're they wanted to
  946. 56:12watch me
  947. 56:13like you
  948. 56:16know break down and all that so after I
  949. 56:19noticed they're just watching I just
  950. 56:23walk over to them
  951. 56:27describe your breakdown to me uh I
  952. 56:31actually
  953. 56:33cried started kicking grass just doing
  954. 56:38the toddler tantrum [ __ ] um then
  955. 56:42I hopped in the water with them okay so
  956. 56:45it was too late I was in the water and
  957. 56:48he realized Crest didn't have a top um
  958. 56:51and that was
  959. 56:52uncomfortable but I talked to them more
  960. 56:55and that's when she brought up the
  961. 56:56housing situation how she doesn't like
  962. 56:59all my parents
  963. 57:01like are I guess I don't know she know
  964. 57:05she doesn't know them that well she
  965. 57:07never met them okay Chris was saying
  966. 57:09that cat's mom cat's mom is
  967. 57:12um speaks
  968. 57:15his first thought right away so
  969. 57:19she's so they're offering me to get a
  970. 57:23job live with them
  971. 57:26work for them while I'm working and pay
  972. 57:30rent and that's kind of their their deal
  973. 57:33I would have like a month free of rent
  974. 57:35or a month or two maybe if if they're
  975. 57:37thinking um I could be able to borrow a
  976. 57:41car from Crest maybe if she's nice or
  977. 57:45not using it i' be able to go to work do
  978. 57:48she have a lot of cars or something no
  979. 57:51no okay there's an extra one
  980. 57:53prly she stays at the farm okay so if
  981. 57:57she didn't need it I could use it true
  982. 58:00to go to a job or at least
  983. 58:03interviews yeah I was hoping for a job
  984. 58:07you know near where I live so I could
  985. 58:09bike that that would keep me you know
  986. 58:13these going I don't I don't think they
  987. 58:14can get worse but I I could keep doing
  988. 58:17it you
  989. 58:18know
  990. 58:22um where where are we Sunday so you're
  991. 58:26swimming a breakdown what are we having
  992. 58:29a breakdown
  993. 58:31about you ever have your
  994. 58:35legs
  995. 58:38just I don't even know if they're done
  996. 58:40getting like as bad as they they can be
  997. 58:43it so that's a that's not fun and you I
  998. 58:46think you were telling me last night it
  999. 58:48was it's a symptom of a concussion right
  1000. 58:50so that's not it that's a it's a symptom
  1001. 58:53of nerve damage from the hit to my spine
  1002. 58:56so it's permanent okay I understand that
  1003. 58:58now it's better yeah um so it's just
  1004. 59:01legs think it's waste feeling is
  1005. 59:06probably coloss me bag down the road and
  1006. 59:09all of that but here we are Sunday
  1007. 59:14yeah okay we're sitting in the pool
  1008. 59:17we're hanging
  1009. 59:20out um they're just talking to me
  1010. 59:26sometimes they're being nice sometimes
  1011. 59:27they're like making the offer like hey
  1012. 59:29if you move in you can pay rent this is
  1013. 59:31a good
  1014. 59:32neighborhood um it's called a sack
  1015. 59:35there's
  1016. 59:38parking
  1017. 59:40so yeah on the east side just off of
  1018. 59:43Milwaukee Street that's Andrew Andrew
  1019. 59:46you take a left turn onto Andrew
  1020. 59:49Milwaukee
  1021. 59:50y so that's
  1022. 59:53it um so it's a good neighborhood kind
  1023. 59:56of like the one by my parents
  1024. 59:59m i if I live there I least be on doing
  1025. 1:00:03my own
  1026. 1:00:05thing and then they're like well
  1027. 1:00:08appreciate you stopping by so I I I head
  1028. 1:00:11out and I go it was Monday afternoon I
  1029. 1:00:15go to dinner at cat cat's house on the
  1030. 1:00:18east side
  1031. 1:00:20okay what time you think that was
  1032. 1:00:26had to be 7:30 I left the farm which is
  1033. 1:00:29cres 7:30
  1034. 1:00:32p.m.
  1035. 1:00:35CR
  1036. 1:00:41so we
  1037. 1:00:45cats and then
  1038. 1:00:49she's she's planning on feeding me on
  1039. 1:00:53this is Monday correct yeah
  1040. 1:00:56that's after the farm swim
  1041. 1:01:02CR I think we just eat and cuddle a
  1042. 1:01:05little bit okay I go
  1043. 1:01:10home there's the girls um let them out
  1044. 1:01:14and go to bed cuz I kind of had a day
  1045. 1:01:18yeah what time you think you left her
  1046. 1:01:21place say nine
  1047. 1:01:26it's about 9: okay
  1048. 1:01:29um she didn't come with you no I was
  1049. 1:01:32alone that night
  1050. 1:01:37okay really want to drag her away I
  1051. 1:01:40think she stayed at her apartment that
  1052. 1:01:42or her house that night not apartment
  1053. 1:01:45okay so there we
  1054. 1:01:50are Tuesday Tuesday
  1055. 1:01:53morning it was just
  1056. 1:02:02I can't
  1057. 1:02:03remember um
  1058. 1:02:05oh Dan wakes me up I believe with
  1059. 1:02:09something or not wakes me up I I did the
  1060. 1:02:11six again with the dogs and the food but
  1061. 1:02:14I got back in bed I don't know if I
  1062. 1:02:15passed out or zone out a little bit
  1063. 1:02:20but um Dan is worried about my mock on
  1064. 1:02:24Tuesday I think
  1065. 1:02:27did you call I said no no word my M I
  1066. 1:02:32don't know if he called her I think he
  1067. 1:02:34just contacted that's so I can think of
  1068. 1:02:35reached out yeah he reached
  1069. 1:02:37out then I'm like oh it's Tuesday
  1070. 1:02:39morning they should be here um no
  1071. 1:02:43worried I think I called my mom that
  1072. 1:02:49day all right and
  1073. 1:02:52then you for no she out it's it's always
  1074. 1:02:59the the voicemail and voicemail you know
  1075. 1:03:02what yeah so it's off out of
  1076. 1:03:06range I don't know the other factors
  1077. 1:03:08that could give you that it's like a
  1078. 1:03:10voicemail right away goes right to
  1079. 1:03:12voicemail right yeah okay so whatever
  1080. 1:03:14factors can give you that so I might
  1081. 1:03:17have missed it so from the time like
  1082. 1:03:19they left did you talk to them at all
  1083. 1:03:22when they were I got aex you got the one
  1084. 1:03:25text
  1085. 1:03:26that you mentioned earlier don't even
  1086. 1:03:27like it right yeah but that was it
  1087. 1:03:30nothing else yeah so that's that's fishy
  1088. 1:03:33to me even the text because I realized
  1089. 1:03:35Memorial Day is when the White Lake
  1090. 1:03:37parade is oh sure there's no Fourth of
  1091. 1:03:40July maybe there's cheap drinks but
  1092. 1:03:43there's no parade quite like on the
  1093. 1:03:46fourth
  1094. 1:03:48so well maybe there is
  1095. 1:03:51now I realize I I've always gone on the
  1096. 1:03:53memorial
  1097. 1:03:55because that's when that's theek night I
  1098. 1:03:58get timed off from school and all that
  1099. 1:04:00you don't get time off for the fourth so
  1100. 1:04:03so basically from the time that they're
  1101. 1:04:04gone at the cabin and your home you know
  1102. 1:04:08running around doing what you're doing
  1103. 1:04:10you just had one communication with Mom
  1104. 1:04:13yeah that's kind of how I just assumed
  1105. 1:04:16the amount of people where they're at
  1106. 1:04:19and whether all well I understand I was
  1107. 1:04:21making sure her not contacting but this
  1108. 1:04:24was the only Tex is there anything with
  1109. 1:04:27that no I I would even bother talking to
  1110. 1:04:29him he he wouldn't use his phone while
  1111. 1:04:32he's out there he loves
  1112. 1:04:35it you know do he keep his phone on he's
  1113. 1:04:38up
  1114. 1:04:39there it's usually in the car oh okay um
  1115. 1:04:44my brother and I just text all the time
  1116. 1:04:46while we're up there we even set up wire
  1117. 1:04:49and Tennis sometimes to make makeig
  1118. 1:04:51better connection sure um so here we are
  1119. 1:04:56where Tuesday um called Mom voicemail
  1120. 1:04:59immediately voicemail immediately
  1121. 1:05:03Tuesday where Dan Dan called worried
  1122. 1:05:06about mom not coming to work um you had
  1123. 1:05:09already fed the dogs and that before Dan
  1124. 1:05:11called or reach out to
  1125. 1:05:32so doing
  1126. 1:05:37this I I got a coffee at a quick trip
  1127. 1:05:41one
  1128. 1:05:42day well I think that could have been
  1129. 1:05:44Tuesday morning okay a quick trip I got
  1130. 1:05:47a coffee and
  1131. 1:05:50I um I use my dad's number at a quick
  1132. 1:05:53trip to get me the free one it was the
  1133. 1:05:56cre gold I I could have I could have
  1134. 1:05:58afforded it but you know there's a free
  1135. 1:06:00one and it's Tuesday or it wasn't Monday
  1136. 1:06:03I could have gotten a dollar one but
  1137. 1:06:06it's full price I believe and I I
  1138. 1:06:07grabbed that the coffee because it was a
  1139. 1:06:09free one he hasn't used it for weeks so
  1140. 1:06:12grabb that had a quick trip I couldn't
  1141. 1:06:15tell you which one I was just driving at
  1142. 1:06:17that point um when you get when you use
  1143. 1:06:20a it's rewards card is what they call it
  1144. 1:06:22right you just enter his phone number or
  1145. 1:06:24something type
  1146. 1:06:26it okay
  1147. 1:06:28[Music]
  1148. 1:06:30um but I got a coffee had to be I'm
  1149. 1:06:33assuming
  1150. 1:06:35Tuesday and I got a free
  1151. 1:06:38one sweet it's it was terrible oh it was
  1152. 1:06:42yeah I wanted to try Krupa gold yeah it
  1153. 1:06:45was
  1154. 1:06:46bad um then we're
  1155. 1:06:49Tuesday uh cat's working up I'm gaming
  1156. 1:06:53job hunt and then I um then I started
  1157. 1:06:57trying to get the the
  1158. 1:07:01glass i' been a little lazy on the glass
  1159. 1:07:05I just kind of had chairs in front of it
  1160. 1:07:07I have broom
  1161. 1:07:10and you know a little sweeper holder you
  1162. 1:07:13know you broom it into that D
  1163. 1:07:16yeah I'm tossing the glass into
  1164. 1:07:24recycling um
  1165. 1:07:26I get most of it there's there's a bunch
  1166. 1:07:28in the cracks of the stone that I'm
  1167. 1:07:31picking off by
  1168. 1:07:32hand I think I've didn't injur myself
  1169. 1:07:35from that
  1170. 1:07:36but um
  1171. 1:07:39just
  1172. 1:07:45yeah just
  1173. 1:07:48um my blood was kind of on the floor so
  1174. 1:07:52I got the swipper I borrowed from cat
  1175. 1:07:55from the the
  1176. 1:07:57foot I brought a Swiffer to mop I
  1177. 1:08:00Swiffer the the floor floor like not the
  1178. 1:08:03stone but the
  1179. 1:08:04floor and then I got a little bit in the
  1180. 1:08:07kitchen and then everywhere kind of I
  1181. 1:08:10walked pretty much the the bathroom the
  1182. 1:08:13kitchen and then I couldn't get the
  1183. 1:08:16carpet so I still stained that up
  1184. 1:08:18through a crappy where was there carpet
  1185. 1:08:20at the stairs between basement and
  1186. 1:08:23kitchen carpet oh that's right carpet
  1187. 1:08:25stairs
  1188. 1:08:27um I tried I can't get it
  1189. 1:08:31out I don't know how to do that
  1190. 1:08:35but um then all the way up to my the
  1191. 1:08:38laundry room where I found my first aid
  1192. 1:08:40kit and I just tried to stop all the
  1193. 1:08:42bleeding but I you know it wouldn't stop
  1194. 1:08:47so that blood was all coming from your
  1195. 1:08:50left foot yeah left foot
  1196. 1:08:53hole left foot hole yeah I mean we're
  1197. 1:08:57talking are we talking massive amounts
  1198. 1:08:59of blood are we talking you know a
  1199. 1:09:01little bit like describe um it started
  1200. 1:09:04as
  1201. 1:09:05drops until I got to the
  1202. 1:09:07bathroom and then I got back to go grab
  1203. 1:09:10my sock and some of the the paper towel
  1204. 1:09:15and then I see the glasses in there so I
  1205. 1:09:17grab the TW and I pull it out and then
  1206. 1:09:18it starts squirting out and I I got some
  1207. 1:09:23on a a little bit of the rock it wasn't
  1208. 1:09:25that bad of the rock but it
  1209. 1:09:29um I think the worst was the that floor
  1210. 1:09:33that like it kind of like you know like
  1211. 1:09:37this lid puddles mhm is wasn't good we
  1212. 1:09:41the floor down in the basement well that
  1213. 1:09:44one um and then I go
  1214. 1:09:48upstairs to the kitchen and it's still
  1215. 1:09:51going and I'm trying to get my foot in
  1216. 1:09:53the sink just to slow it down and pinch
  1217. 1:09:56it
  1218. 1:09:59maybe um and then I waddle upstairs
  1219. 1:10:03to the the the IAC or the the first a
  1220. 1:10:09kit
  1221. 1:10:10kit and um once I got it kind of bundled
  1222. 1:10:15up that's it stopped for for what I
  1223. 1:10:20know then I
  1224. 1:10:22go I need to get some tape
  1225. 1:10:26um we have a tape box in the basement I
  1226. 1:10:28go there and I I opened it up
  1227. 1:10:31again I B it a little bit more but the
  1228. 1:10:33basement was easy to clean that's just
  1229. 1:10:36cement a little bit of water and I raged
  1230. 1:10:39that up but they grabbed the tape box
  1231. 1:10:41and I wrapped
  1232. 1:10:43it um after that that was that's Tuesday
  1233. 1:10:48yep
  1234. 1:10:55wings I go to
  1235. 1:10:57cats okay we had wings what time um I
  1236. 1:11:02could have been I've been doing the BS
  1237. 1:11:06at first aid and all that I go to cat's
  1238. 1:11:08house with her mom and her brother that
  1239. 1:11:11could have
  1240. 1:11:13been five or
  1241. 1:11:15six I could give you the
  1242. 1:11:18exact did you guys pick up the wings and
  1243. 1:11:20go there
  1244. 1:11:21or no I I drove to cat
  1245. 1:11:26okay straight there um what you drive
  1246. 1:11:29the
  1247. 1:11:30suit car choice I just um the with the
  1248. 1:11:35Volvo's seat
  1249. 1:11:38like you know I can't do it with my foot
  1250. 1:11:41okay
  1251. 1:11:46um so you're talking about wings do you
  1252. 1:11:50guys go pick up wings or yeah so we get
  1253. 1:11:52there and we're calling around I'm
  1254. 1:11:55seeing what's up James is getting home
  1255. 1:11:57with Jimmy
  1256. 1:12:01Johns um and we're like oh don't eat all
  1257. 1:12:05of it he's like I'm hungry now doing all
  1258. 1:12:07that post gym
  1259. 1:12:10crap so he grabs eats half of his
  1260. 1:12:13sandwich and then we go cat and I the
  1261. 1:12:16Two of Us in my car we go
  1262. 1:12:19to Buffalo Wild
  1263. 1:12:23Wings remember one I couldn't tell you
  1264. 1:12:27okay I
  1265. 1:12:28don't
  1266. 1:12:33um it had to be East right that's close
  1267. 1:12:35to it's by a
  1268. 1:12:38mall it's by a mall it a mall
  1269. 1:12:42um we go in we get the wings we go
  1270. 1:12:49out we go to cats we
  1271. 1:12:53eat um we watch this movie pretty and
  1272. 1:12:57pink or something it's about a girl that
  1273. 1:12:59likes fashion and goes to
  1274. 1:13:03Harvard so is it on Netflix or just
  1275. 1:13:06normal
  1276. 1:13:08TV they have like everything there I
  1277. 1:13:11didn't I didn't
  1278. 1:13:13know all right so you at the wings at
  1279. 1:13:16cats watch Pretty in
  1280. 1:13:18Pink yeah is aom's choice but
  1281. 1:13:22um the four of us had we all ate
  1282. 1:13:25okay and then went upstairs laid down in
  1283. 1:13:28her bed for a few
  1284. 1:13:33minutes just letting the food settle or
  1285. 1:13:36yeah hanging
  1286. 1:13:37out notice she's kind of falling
  1287. 1:13:41asleep so I'm like okay I'm ready to get
  1288. 1:13:44out of here and I go home get the girls
  1289. 1:13:49all ready for bed going
  1290. 1:13:52outside get them water
  1291. 1:13:57what time do you think you made it
  1292. 1:14:01home say
  1293. 1:14:03n the latest
  1294. 1:14:08um two
  1295. 1:14:10girls water not really food theyve ate
  1296. 1:14:13before but
  1297. 1:14:15water and played like indoor play time
  1298. 1:14:18and bathroom sure
  1299. 1:14:23so you guys go
  1300. 1:14:25so you were home alone then um well I've
  1301. 1:14:28been home alone this whole weekend
  1302. 1:14:30really except when cat comes yeah so cat
  1303. 1:14:32didn't come that
  1304. 1:14:34night so now we're we're pushing
  1305. 1:14:36Wednesday aren't we
  1306. 1:14:42um what time do you think you went to
  1307. 1:14:44bed on Tuesday night um probably pretty
  1308. 1:14:48D close to when I got home 10 at the
  1309. 1:14:51latest
  1310. 1:14:55kind of been tired lately sure um then
  1311. 1:15:00in the morning
  1312. 1:15:02on Sunday no wait where are we Wednesday
  1313. 1:15:06Wednesday okay so Wednesday
  1314. 1:15:09um I try to go to the farm I keep
  1315. 1:15:13spamming Crest and spamming Crest I kind
  1316. 1:15:17of needed someone to talk to cuz
  1317. 1:15:19freaking out about my parents um Jane's
  1318. 1:15:22calling me I give her the address to go
  1319. 1:15:24to the farm
  1320. 1:15:25ER to the to the cabin Jane Jane
  1321. 1:15:34hondorf um never picked up from press so
  1322. 1:15:38I go
  1323. 1:15:42home um did you drive over to the farm
  1324. 1:15:45or yeah yeah yeah cuz she wasn't
  1325. 1:15:48answering her phone right no I got close
  1326. 1:15:51but then I realized I can't just show up
  1327. 1:15:52they they'd shoot me I don't know when I
  1328. 1:15:56drive or what I look like with a hat on
  1329. 1:15:59they got guns over there or would they
  1330. 1:16:02actually shoot you no I'm just saying
  1331. 1:16:05there her dad lives there he's he's
  1332. 1:16:0890 he he got a buck when he was 95 or
  1333. 1:16:12something so I I know if he didn't know
  1334. 1:16:15what I was he could have
  1335. 1:16:17yeah so
  1336. 1:16:21he's but you can use a gun that's why I
  1337. 1:16:25would do that yeah so cr's dad lives
  1338. 1:16:29there too yeah who's is it cr's Farm or
  1339. 1:16:31Dad's Farm it's Dad's he built it oh
  1340. 1:16:34okay and then she he lives there she's
  1341. 1:16:36managing the property because he's in a
  1342. 1:16:38chair yeah he's
  1343. 1:16:40old
  1344. 1:16:41um so then it's not really a farm it's a
  1345. 1:16:46farm hobby Farm yeah yeah okay I got you
  1346. 1:16:48they hav been there let wild flowers
  1347. 1:16:50grow for the the beast that's pretty
  1348. 1:16:53much it and their own berries but but
  1349. 1:16:55it's
  1350. 1:16:56um then here we are I turn around and
  1351. 1:17:00then Jane
  1352. 1:17:02calls I get a picture of the property at
  1353. 1:17:06the
  1354. 1:17:08cabin I see
  1355. 1:17:10that so I'm looking at the
  1356. 1:17:14cabin then it doesn't look right there's
  1357. 1:17:17a birch tree in in
  1358. 1:17:20front and I I didn't like the look of it
  1359. 1:17:22cuz that didn't that didn't just sit
  1360. 1:17:25right with me a little bit but I it
  1361. 1:17:27looked like tracks were pushed down into
  1362. 1:17:29the grass a little bit I don't know from
  1363. 1:17:32the picture and Mike said there was like
  1364. 1:17:35light tracks like someone was
  1365. 1:17:38there where was the birch tree at it
  1366. 1:17:41looked like it was in the middle of the
  1367. 1:17:42drive and sometimes we do do that we we
  1368. 1:17:46find a fallen log and we put it like a
  1369. 1:17:49you know a double door entrance so you
  1370. 1:17:52go in from the gate you park you move
  1371. 1:17:55the next and then you drive in yeah sure
  1372. 1:17:59so that's like the only security we can
  1373. 1:18:01get up
  1374. 1:18:02there um some we have done that
  1375. 1:18:05before the grass is overgrown but that's
  1376. 1:18:08from the storm and the Fallen trees you
  1377. 1:18:11can't mow there because the
  1378. 1:18:18flowers so with the birch tree I mean if
  1379. 1:18:21you guys typically put stuff down like
  1380. 1:18:23security why why did it look weird to
  1381. 1:18:26you this
  1382. 1:18:27time never seen that log we have we have
  1383. 1:18:30this log that's close to the shed
  1384. 1:18:34it's I would say closer to petrified
  1385. 1:18:37than rotten it's hard like really
  1386. 1:18:41hard yeah I don't know what kind of tree
  1387. 1:18:43but that's what my dad and I use when we
  1388. 1:18:46go so he typically use the same tree
  1389. 1:18:48this one just seem have place too yeah
  1390. 1:18:51that's not the tree we use got um
  1391. 1:19:00where are we Wednesday morning uh Jane
  1392. 1:19:02sends you a picture of the cabin you see
  1393. 1:19:05the bur Street and look right to then I
  1394. 1:19:07go to police station because I ask her
  1395. 1:19:11when should I make a thing a point
  1396. 1:19:17or I'm sorry
  1397. 1:19:22worries Wednesday morning said you went
  1398. 1:19:25to the police department yeah to make
  1399. 1:19:28a the thing I'll talk to him about my
  1400. 1:19:32parents and um then I met with three
  1401. 1:19:37sheriffs that came three you said
  1402. 1:19:40three there was a cely he's bearded the
  1403. 1:19:45guy that drove me here I'm not sure the
  1404. 1:19:48name and then Collins
  1405. 1:19:53uh she was also
  1406. 1:19:56doing canvasing
  1407. 1:19:59mhm so
  1408. 1:20:02canvasing so here we are throws three I
  1409. 1:20:05get the questions
  1410. 1:20:07answered
  1411. 1:20:11then oh then we go to my house and then
  1412. 1:20:14there's three more the same three
  1413. 1:20:18sheriffs um so they talk to you at the
  1414. 1:20:20police station or wherever you yeah it
  1415. 1:20:23get information and stuff like that came
  1416. 1:20:25to your house yeah okay and that's
  1417. 1:20:29probably about then I came a couple
  1418. 1:20:31hours later they were there questioning
  1419. 1:20:33you're here now questioning and then
  1420. 1:20:36that night
  1421. 1:20:38that what night are we on Wednesday
  1422. 1:20:40Wednesday night I um go to Dan and
  1423. 1:20:44Mary's Wednesday night Wednesday night
  1424. 1:20:47what time do you that they feed me um I
  1425. 1:20:50had probably 7
  1426. 1:20:527:30 and you said he went
  1427. 1:20:55Mary S or Mary Sesto and
  1428. 1:20:58Dan something
  1429. 1:21:01aich so Mary Sesto house Mary cesto
  1430. 1:21:04house it's it's um on the same road
  1431. 1:21:08pretty much yeah it just up cars cor for
  1432. 1:21:13dinner you went there yeah well they
  1433. 1:21:14just fed me they didn't eat okay they
  1434. 1:21:16just wanted to
  1435. 1:21:20brainstorm any good ideas come out of it
  1436. 1:21:25okay so you said you you only could
  1437. 1:21:26think of Dan and Dan's been here yeah so
  1438. 1:21:30you said you went to the the police
  1439. 1:21:31department to talk about your parents
  1440. 1:21:34what just tell me what exactly did you
  1441. 1:21:36talk about your parents what the
  1442. 1:21:38deputies about oh we're making a report
  1443. 1:21:41a report that I thought I had to do that
  1444. 1:21:44at a at a station
  1445. 1:21:46okay and you were reporting like what
  1446. 1:21:49were you reporting exactly just I just
  1447. 1:21:51want to write down and yeah have it on
  1448. 1:21:53there all right they're missing this
  1449. 1:21:56okay missing
  1450. 1:21:58okay
  1451. 1:22:01gotcha then as far as as far as you know
  1452. 1:22:08um I mean were you able to tell we've
  1453. 1:22:10gone into a lot of detail last night and
  1454. 1:22:12tonight right yeah do you think that you
  1455. 1:22:14gave
  1456. 1:22:16them as much information as You' given
  1457. 1:22:19me or do you think that we you asked way
  1458. 1:22:21more questions you even asked about my
  1459. 1:22:23injuries the bleeding in the fireplace
  1460. 1:22:26yeah um the sheriff's kind of gave what
  1461. 1:22:30they need to make reports and you just
  1462. 1:22:32asked about like home life everything
  1463. 1:22:37right okay uh so you you got more in
  1464. 1:22:40depth yeah I think um Wednesday here we
  1465. 1:22:44are and throughout the weekend I've been
  1466. 1:22:46calling
  1467. 1:22:49mhm
  1468. 1:22:50okay all right um just kind of look at
  1469. 1:22:54sure so we started
  1470. 1:22:56Wednesday um mom had work you and your
  1471. 1:23:00dad watched Wheel of Fortune just going
  1472. 1:23:03to kind of read stuff back through a
  1473. 1:23:04little bit okay um and we kind of ended
  1474. 1:23:06it last night because that's I've been
  1475. 1:23:08talking to you since then you know so I
  1476. 1:23:10don't think there's much else that I
  1477. 1:23:11need you to tell me from last night
  1478. 1:23:16um so watching Wheel of Fortune uh
  1479. 1:23:19you're on the couch table downstair
  1480. 1:23:21couch back to the table downstairs and
  1481. 1:23:24tossing the the ball around for the dog
  1482. 1:23:26and broke the glass
  1483. 1:23:28fireplace um your foot gets hurt dad
  1484. 1:23:31gets
  1485. 1:23:32mad right yeah mom left for work in the
  1486. 1:23:36morning comes home later on um dog was
  1487. 1:23:40fine not injured at all was it the dog
  1488. 1:23:42or the ball that crashed into the glass
  1489. 1:23:45both the ball bounced it but the dog hit
  1490. 1:23:47it with the shoulder that's how it broke
  1491. 1:23:49it was the ball once done it yeah
  1492. 1:23:52probably not okay
  1493. 1:23:56um all right
  1494. 1:23:58um playing games watching YouTube job
  1495. 1:24:01search I'm just going to instead of
  1496. 1:24:04reading out loud just make sure I don't
  1497. 1:24:06have any
  1498. 1:24:06questions
  1499. 1:24:10um you guys typically make your beds
  1500. 1:24:12every day look like they're made
  1501. 1:24:14yesterday when I was there yes okay we
  1502. 1:24:17usually do sheets every few days in beds
  1503. 1:24:25change the sheets everywh every few yeah
  1504. 1:24:28they get changed say in the
  1505. 1:24:31faes or the dog hair it's kind of hard
  1506. 1:24:34to sleep yeah they probably do have some
  1507. 1:24:36pretty long hair the heat they shed um
  1508. 1:24:41but oh you're that's fine I get it I got
  1509. 1:24:46a dog he sheds too but you got too L you
  1510. 1:24:50know all right
  1511. 1:24:58as far
  1512. 1:24:59as as far as the blood on your
  1513. 1:25:02foot um how did you clean that up so we
  1514. 1:25:06we were talking you got you had blood on
  1515. 1:25:09swi or wet fet okay so for webjet and
  1516. 1:25:13where did you get that from can't let me
  1517. 1:25:15borrow it um where's it at now I
  1518. 1:25:18returned it to c yeah
  1519. 1:25:27I don't know where it's at now I just
  1520. 1:25:30brought it
  1521. 1:25:32back
  1522. 1:25:35back did you use anything
  1523. 1:25:38else hydr peroxide for the the tiles and
  1524. 1:25:43the hard
  1525. 1:25:47floors um just the big Globs needed a
  1526. 1:25:51little
  1527. 1:25:52bit hydrogen peroxide do that seem to
  1528. 1:25:55help get rid of the blood well it hurt
  1529. 1:25:58my foot by that stuff um but it didn't
  1530. 1:26:01really help it kind of just made a mess
  1531. 1:26:04and when you say only on tiles I'm
  1532. 1:26:06trying to remember your house I couldn't
  1533. 1:26:07do carpet with it it would ruin the
  1534. 1:26:09carpet right it would I think so um
  1535. 1:26:13tiles are we talking kitchen cuz
  1536. 1:26:15downstairs is just like cement well when
  1537. 1:26:17I had some blood on the basement I used
  1538. 1:26:19the
  1539. 1:26:21peroxide okay basement floor and tiles
  1540. 1:26:24in the kitchen yeah okay yeah I pr
  1541. 1:26:27excited there it wasn't as much like
  1542. 1:26:30there weren like this size pools in the
  1543. 1:26:33kitchen okay I was pinching it pretty
  1544. 1:26:34dang hard but which was also cutting
  1545. 1:26:37deeper cuz I had another might still
  1546. 1:26:39have another piece of glass is that the
  1547. 1:26:42biggest pool that you saw was something
  1548. 1:26:44this was downstairs this was kind of on
  1549. 1:26:47the
  1550. 1:26:48Stone close to the glass and then there
  1551. 1:26:51was one right at the base kind of where
  1552. 1:26:54the chairs I
  1553. 1:26:55put like a
  1554. 1:26:58good like 2 3 in
  1555. 1:27:02diameter
  1556. 1:27:04diameter
  1557. 1:27:06um more than
  1558. 1:27:18that did you do anything to so I wrote
  1559. 1:27:21down on Tuesday that you tried getting
  1560. 1:27:23the glass cleaned up in the basement um
  1561. 1:27:25toss it in the glass glass and recycl
  1562. 1:27:27did you clean up it all when it actually
  1563. 1:27:30happened no my dad was Furious um so he
  1564. 1:27:34he did stuff to clean it yeah I don't
  1565. 1:27:38know what he
  1566. 1:27:41did but I he sent me to my room upstairs
  1567. 1:27:45and he did whatever he did but it still
  1568. 1:27:47was on the floor after he was done
  1569. 1:27:50okay um
  1570. 1:27:54did your dad get injured at all when the
  1571. 1:27:56blast broke did he step on any he sent
  1572. 1:27:58me up but
  1573. 1:28:00I don't doubt it he gets mad he's not
  1574. 1:28:04thinking so we don't know if your dad
  1575. 1:28:07got hurt no okay no but my best K is
  1576. 1:28:12that guy reached in the fireplace and
  1577. 1:28:14cut off his arm or something I don't
  1578. 1:28:19know
  1579. 1:28:22right what's up uh head pain do you guys
  1580. 1:28:25have like Tylenol or
  1581. 1:28:28something I know you guys can't really
  1582. 1:28:30offer anything like that but like a
  1583. 1:28:32headache yeah I've been getting the
  1584. 1:28:34migraines from all the the hits and
  1585. 1:28:38stuff try to get you something
  1586. 1:28:41M um so right so cleaning up the blood
  1587. 1:28:44we just got the Swiffer and the and the
  1588. 1:28:46hydrogen
  1589. 1:28:48peroxide just kind of smeared it around
  1590. 1:28:55uh there's
  1591. 1:28:56another U paper toweling yeah just that
  1592. 1:29:01and then
  1593. 1:29:03there's I don't
  1594. 1:29:07know where all those paper towels go
  1595. 1:29:11just in the trash yeah um
  1596. 1:29:16some everywhere my car trash and my my
  1597. 1:29:21trash
  1598. 1:29:25um they ended up in the car trash
  1599. 1:29:28there's a bag in the car that I carried
  1600. 1:29:30around it's a car trash okay it's like a
  1601. 1:29:32gallon bag that's more portable than the
  1602. 1:29:35garbage
  1603. 1:29:37can so yeah bloody rag after bloody rag
  1604. 1:29:41just trying to get it all up and MH I
  1605. 1:29:44don't know it it was a lot I I didn't
  1606. 1:29:48feel sick so it coulded been that much
  1607. 1:29:50right yeah you didn't lose enough to
  1608. 1:29:51pass over
  1609. 1:29:52anything is there any reason to believe
  1610. 1:29:55Mom or Dad's blood would be somewhere in
  1611. 1:29:59the house have they been injured at all
  1612. 1:30:01that you're aware of well my dad
  1613. 1:30:04scratches his psoriasis till he like
  1614. 1:30:06gushes blood okay gushing just grab gush
  1615. 1:30:10into me enough to run down your leg like
  1616. 1:30:14um like cover your leg I suppose like he
  1617. 1:30:17his KN so he does this it just
  1618. 1:30:22like dri
  1619. 1:30:25down I as him to stop but he doesn't do
  1620. 1:30:27it when he's stressed out he just kind
  1621. 1:30:30of like it's his tick yeah probably
  1622. 1:30:33itches does he um like does it enough to
  1623. 1:30:37get on the floor does it leave oh yeah
  1624. 1:30:39they how much like before we were
  1625. 1:30:41talking the water bottle lid and the
  1626. 1:30:43yeti lid is there I mean like are we
  1627. 1:30:44talking puddles like that or just ribbin
  1628. 1:30:47or it could be enough okay but I'm
  1629. 1:30:51thinking yeah you L if he's there and I
  1630. 1:30:53don't catch him soon enough oh jeez my
  1631. 1:30:56M's
  1632. 1:30:57blood um just from her bloody nose and
  1633. 1:31:01she gets sometimes when she wakes up
  1634. 1:31:03that's why we've been doing the
  1635. 1:31:05dehumidify or humidifier and
  1636. 1:31:09dehumidifiers yeah probably downstairs
  1637. 1:31:12you get the we we have to do multiple of
  1638. 1:31:14them but she can't be in the living room
  1639. 1:31:16too long cuz that's a dehumidifier and
  1640. 1:31:19if she does her nose gets bad
  1641. 1:31:24not like a regular one she gets it
  1642. 1:31:27bad
  1643. 1:31:29um but she either goes to the kitchen to
  1644. 1:31:32fix it her vanity or the
  1645. 1:31:38bathroom um when she has bloody noses
  1646. 1:31:40are we talking and it's just spraying
  1647. 1:31:42around is it just dripping well it's not
  1648. 1:31:44squirting but it's dripping and she
  1649. 1:31:46doesn't notice it okay cuz she can't
  1650. 1:31:48feel it anymore
  1651. 1:31:51okay um
  1652. 1:31:54is there any reason to believe that in
  1653. 1:31:56either one of their vehicles there would
  1654. 1:31:57be any of their
  1655. 1:32:01blood their vehicles yeah or anybody's
  1656. 1:32:05vehicle I say that um maybe car
  1657. 1:32:08trash mom's car trash would definitely
  1658. 1:32:11the past few days my dad's car
  1659. 1:32:16trash why would they have blood in there
  1660. 1:32:18car
  1661. 1:32:20trashes well my mom does the bloody
  1662. 1:32:23noses the air conditioning so okay in
  1663. 1:32:26the when we have air conditioning my mom
  1664. 1:32:28W will have to use um uh bring towels
  1665. 1:32:32and stuff because in the hot days you
  1666. 1:32:35can't have your windows open you'll you
  1667. 1:32:37won't drive well you know so air
  1668. 1:32:39conditioning my mom will have nose
  1669. 1:32:43beds um my dad hasn't had them as much
  1670. 1:32:47as she does but he gets some okay um his
  1671. 1:32:51are worse than my M's
  1672. 1:32:54do get in the then or um mostly just
  1673. 1:32:58with air conditioning but sometimes
  1674. 1:33:02sometimes with a
  1675. 1:33:03dehumidifier
  1676. 1:33:04okay me personally just in air
  1677. 1:33:07conditioning mhm I get them but I'm not
  1678. 1:33:11as bad as my parents I it's um not bad
  1679. 1:33:15okay
  1680. 1:33:43yeah I'm just thinking it's kind of
  1681. 1:33:48absorbing I just want to make sure that
  1682. 1:33:50I'm asking everything so I don't have to
  1683. 1:33:51keep calling me and stuff my brother is
  1684. 1:33:55he okay Mitch yeah did he make it I know
  1685. 1:33:59that's a long drive for yeah he hasn't
  1686. 1:34:01called me at all so I don't know I don't
  1687. 1:34:04think they've ever done a trip like that
  1688. 1:34:06so it's like three hours three and a
  1689. 1:34:08half
  1690. 1:34:14MIT um as far as up at the
  1691. 1:34:18cabin when do you think the last time
  1692. 1:34:21you were up there personally last year
  1693. 1:34:24last year Memorial Day I believe if it
  1694. 1:34:26wasn't the weekend before
  1695. 1:34:31Memorial I didn't make the parade I
  1696. 1:34:34never got to go last
  1697. 1:34:36year when do you think the last time
  1698. 1:34:39your mom or dad were at the cabin before
  1699. 1:34:41my dad went when my brother was
  1700. 1:34:43diagnosed with
  1701. 1:34:45diabetes when was
  1702. 1:34:47that the weekend before my concussion so
  1703. 1:34:51one two three not including this week
  1704. 1:34:55three four yeah
  1705. 1:34:59four four weeks he went up brother doing
  1706. 1:35:03okay he wasn't born in diabetes then no
  1707. 1:35:06this was like it's the kind you're born
  1708. 1:35:08with June this year like 3 four weeks
  1709. 1:35:11ago yeah okay he went up noticed uh our
  1710. 1:35:15Plumbing's gone to crap and he bought a
  1711. 1:35:18new set or something at a a Fleet Farm
  1712. 1:35:21or Home Depot or is like a
  1713. 1:35:25it's like a four-way converter type
  1714. 1:35:27thing for the plumbing something for the
  1715. 1:35:30cabin yeah for the cabinet for like a
  1716. 1:35:32toilet or yeah we we have a toilet out
  1717. 1:35:35there actually now nice um not just an
  1718. 1:35:38out house no there is
  1719. 1:35:42an yeah you want an
  1720. 1:35:44asir I
  1721. 1:35:46appreciate what you say I got that work
  1722. 1:35:49yeah I was like I thought you said add
  1723. 1:35:51or no I don't not not that just
  1724. 1:35:54just over the counter stuff yeah thank
  1725. 1:35:55you like three of them
  1726. 1:35:59Mar appreciate it you
  1727. 1:36:01bet
  1728. 1:36:07thanks the ADV on them
  1729. 1:36:09right put them you put them on your
  1730. 1:36:11mouth
  1731. 1:36:13already are oh I just got so the plum
  1732. 1:36:17one no no is it is it like uh was it a
  1733. 1:36:21sink or a toilet or what was it with the
  1734. 1:36:23in that went bad um so when we have to
  1735. 1:36:27pour water in every time we go up to
  1736. 1:36:29start the pump oh okay so some reason by
  1737. 1:36:34pouring water in the water never Rose in
  1738. 1:36:36the toilet full apparently so you
  1739. 1:36:39couldn't flush it you know it it the
  1740. 1:36:41water didn't come to the toilet M um so
  1741. 1:36:45you need a new thing to stop whatever
  1742. 1:36:48the problem was I think leaking I don't
  1743. 1:36:50know I didn't hear everything from it
  1744. 1:36:53I'm sure
  1745. 1:36:54how did he find out about
  1746. 1:36:55that he yeah how did he know that there
  1747. 1:36:59was a plumbing issue up there well he
  1748. 1:37:01went up there just to go see the cabin
  1749. 1:37:03oh so when he went up a couple weeks ago
  1750. 1:37:05he realized an issue this time he wanted
  1751. 1:37:07to fix it yeah well he fixed the the
  1752. 1:37:09major issue so won't be flooding the the
  1753. 1:37:13house okay the
  1754. 1:37:15cabin no he wanted the pipe set to redo
  1755. 1:37:20it okay because we we need new pipes cuz
  1756. 1:37:24they're
  1757. 1:37:27lead and I think we might be moving the
  1758. 1:37:30plastic because there's no water heat we
  1759. 1:37:33can do plastic
  1760. 1:37:36yeah
  1761. 1:37:41um okay I'm trying to figure out what
  1762. 1:37:43that part was but that was when Mitch
  1763. 1:37:46diabetes the number
  1764. 1:37:49one did Mitch go up there with him no my
  1765. 1:37:53mind and I were kind of with Mitch all
  1766. 1:37:55that weekend doing stuff dad just went
  1767. 1:37:57to while yep and later that week I had
  1768. 1:38:01my
  1769. 1:38:02fall and I I've just started getting my
  1770. 1:38:05memory back okay
  1771. 1:38:08so where did has mom been up there this
  1772. 1:38:11year at all mom has not been up there
  1773. 1:38:14this year maybe they were up there
  1774. 1:38:16before uh no I think Dad Dad did it all
  1775. 1:38:21himself maybe
  1776. 1:38:24think this is first and Mitch hasn't
  1777. 1:38:27been in the cabinet in a while right
  1778. 1:38:29today well than today yeah I couldn't
  1779. 1:38:32say he's been there he didn't go last
  1780. 1:38:34year
  1781. 1:38:35okay does he kind of do his own thing or
  1782. 1:38:38um Mitch hasn't lived with us or you
  1783. 1:38:42know like he's got a family now a dog a
  1784. 1:38:46girlfriend no kids but cool he kind of
  1785. 1:38:51you know abide you know
  1786. 1:38:54Brothers yeah flew the
  1787. 1:38:57C got a few of them myself yeah all
  1788. 1:39:00right I've started thinking about that
  1789. 1:39:02myself and my parents are trying to
  1790. 1:39:05figure that out with me
  1791. 1:39:11mhm
  1792. 1:39:13that all the background I think right
  1793. 1:39:16yeah I think so so I think it's time we
  1794. 1:39:19start talking about what happened to
  1795. 1:39:20your parents like the truthful version
  1796. 1:39:24okay so we have like 20 pages of writing
  1797. 1:39:29we're going to start with a clean white
  1798. 1:39:30piece of paper if you to start telling
  1799. 1:39:31the truth okay what because listen
  1800. 1:39:33listen to me this is the only chance
  1801. 1:39:35you're going to have to tell us the
  1802. 1:39:37truth okay okay what we listen listen
  1803. 1:39:41I'm I can't tell you what we know but we
  1804. 1:39:43know you're not telling us the truth we
  1805. 1:39:45know your parents are no longer with us
  1806. 1:39:47okay and we know the reason
  1807. 1:39:49why okay you need to tell the truth
  1808. 1:39:52there's listen
  1809. 1:39:53listen you need to tell the truth about
  1810. 1:39:55what happened and just tell us why it
  1811. 1:39:58happened okay if something happened if
  1812. 1:40:01you were defending yourself or if you
  1813. 1:40:03just got fed up with stuff you need to
  1814. 1:40:05tell us the truth okay this is your
  1815. 1:40:08chance to tell us why okay I'm not bsing
  1816. 1:40:12him
  1817. 1:40:17okay so can we do that okay they're okay
  1818. 1:40:20umer
  1819. 1:40:24I'm
  1820. 1:40:25sorry lawyer because
  1821. 1:40:30th you want a ler yeah okay
  1822. 1:40:42okay just right down the time there it's
  1823. 1:40:44about
  1824. 1:40:456:41 under
  1825. 1:40:47rest okay
  1826. 1:40:59[Applause]
  1827. 1:41:02what
  1828. 1:41:03happened okay can you know what happened
  1829. 1:41:07we're not going to tell you what
  1830. 1:41:08happened you know what happened you were
  1831. 1:41:09there when it
  1832. 1:41:11happened we're not bsing you okay I
  1833. 1:41:14wasn't there when it
  1834. 1:41:17happened we know more than you think we
  1835. 1:41:20know
  1836. 1:41:24there's people that have told us things
  1837. 1:41:25we have we have evidence we have proof
  1838. 1:41:28that more has happened
  1839. 1:41:31okay so your parents never made it to
  1840. 1:41:33the cabin and I think you know
  1841. 1:41:38that okay so you're asking for an
  1842. 1:41:40attorney we're not going to ask any more
  1843. 1:41:45questions over here
  1844. 1:41:49for in your pockets at all wallet just a
  1845. 1:41:52wallet put
  1846. 1:42:03so they they won't take the Vape down in
  1847. 1:42:05the
  1848. 1:42:06jail
  1849. 1:42:09okay where's your coin CSE at you just
  1850. 1:42:13took it oh that's a vape and a coin CSE
  1851. 1:42:16no it's in oh I got you
  1852. 1:42:46I he open there
  1853. 1:43:01go your hands for a
  1854. 1:43:10second so don't get tigh on you
  1855. 1:43:17right so way those hor from here we get
  1856. 1:43:19you downstairs fill out some CB we'll
  1857. 1:43:22get you into with the phone and then you
  1858. 1:43:24can make phone calls from
  1859. 1:43:28there is there a way I
  1860. 1:43:30can where's the how do I make a lawyer
  1861. 1:43:33call downstairs so once we get you
  1862. 1:43:36booked in we'll get you the opportunity
  1863. 1:43:38for
  1864. 1:43:43that can you you want me to roll with
  1865. 1:43:46your Bild or I'm good if you got a quote
  1866. 1:43:49on there that's I'll gather your things
  1867. 1:43:50I just want if you can hand me mine if
  1868. 1:43:52you don't mind
  1869. 1:43:53left this you can keep that other stuff
  1870. 1:43:56there I'll come back okay this this yeah
  1871. 1:43:59yep okay

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