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0:00Martin Luther King,
0:02force for good or force for bad for
0:06black people in American culture? Force
0:09for bad. Total force for bad. Because
0:12what the civil rights movement did is it
0:15turned black people into a protected
0:17class. And that was the worst thing that
0:21I think could happen to black Americans.
0:23Black people like to be catered to in
0:25this way. and they they like for their
0:28what they believe to be their kind of
0:30cultural preferences to be catered to
0:33and pandered to. And so for someone like
0:35Martin Luther King, he's considered to
0:37be a hero. He's considered to be a
0:40leader. He's considered to be um almost
0:43like a deity quite frankly. So if I
0:46heard that correctly, what Markx
0:48envisioned was that the church one day
0:51would be marrying two men. That they
0:54would so reject God that they would be
0:57marrying two men and affirming gay
0:59marriage. Is did I read that right?
1:00>> You could argue that. Yeah, you could
1:02argue that. But um but yeah, so Markx, I
1:05mean, he was a degenerate um and he was
1:08a Satanist. When you look at Marxism as
1:10a school of thought and you see it as a
1:13kind of taking up of the baton one
1:15generation to the next, it certainly was
1:18a like what King was doing was certainly
1:20within the continuation and within the
1:22tradition that Carl Mars and Frederick
1:23Engel started. Carl Braden, the white
1:26communist that bought the home,
1:27intentionally rented it to a black
1:29family, put the family into this
1:31all-white neighborhood to stir things
1:33up. Carl Brandon then bombs the home,
1:36>> right?
1:37uh and to to make the outer look the
1:41white race
1:41>> white supremacy. Yeah. They did this to
1:43this black couple and then the ultimate
1:47nail is you then show and call Braden
1:50had a relationship and work with Marx
1:52too.
1:52>> And so his speeches are written by
1:56Clarence Jones, a Marxist, Stanley Leon,
1:59a Marxist. By Rustin a Marxist, Jack
2:02Odell a Marxist. and
2:06and sometimes by him also a Marxist like
2:08Martin Luther King when you look at his
2:10um his favorability ratings. Uh in the
2:14'60s people had a higher view of Jagger
2:17Huber than they did of Martin Luther
2:19King. Now that's important because if
2:21you look at it today it's completely
2:23flipped. They were able to pull a fast
2:25one on us and and now we are celebrating
2:27once a year. Martin Luther King.
2:31Not only did he have all the answers,
2:33but who else could have done it?
2:40I want to connect all the dots here. You
2:42act you do it in the documentary just in
2:44this the one-third of the documentary
2:47that I have seen. But but I want to make
2:50sure that people listening to this
2:52conversation understand that. So what
2:56Chad is arguing about Martin Luther King
2:59Senior, his goal, Martin Luther King
3:01Jr., what he executed. There's a direct
3:04connection to Karl Marx and what his
3:08goals and Frederick Engles and what
3:09their goals were. And and so when some
3:12of it and I hate to dumb it down to this
3:15much, but I some people this is they
3:17don't understand when you say Marxism,
3:19they don't understand that it's Karl
3:20Marx that it's a political theory that
3:23comes out of the 1800s, mid 1800s from a
3:27Jewish communist in my view, Satanist
3:32Carl Marx, right? and they and he and
3:35Frederick Engles, they are highly
3:38jealous of a Charles Spurgeon, one of
3:40the great
3:41>> uh uh gospel preachers, evangelists of
3:45his time. and and they they recognized
3:49that if they were go if the communist
3:52Marxists were going to accomplish their
3:53goal, they had to usurp authority from a
3:59Charles Spurgeon type evangelist and
4:02turn it into a social uh gospel type
4:06deal. And and that again, it's like MLK
4:09is the completion of mission
4:10accomplished of what uh Carl Mark
4:14started in the 1840s.
4:16Te tell us a little bit about Karl Marx
4:19and Charles Spurgeon and just how much
4:23they intentionally put these plans in
4:26place
4:27>> to disconnect Americans. And then I
4:31think Karl Mars and these guys were
4:32thinking about Americans as we moved
4:34into the 1900s. People was like in
4:36particular black Americans
4:39>> disconnecting us from Christianity.
4:41Yeah. And it's a long convoluted story
4:43and uh hopefully hopefully we do a good
4:46enough job in the documentary explaining
4:48exactly what you just laid out. Um
4:50hopefully that that reads with people.
4:52But you're absolutely right. I mean
4:54Spurgeon, the great Baptist minister um
4:58was a contemporary of Marson Engles but
5:01also of Charles Darwin um who
5:04popularized the theory of evolution. Now
5:06this is important because
5:08King
5:10uh received what I call new thought
5:13education when he was in school. Um so
5:16he was being taught Darwinian evolution
5:18and he was also being taught uh uh in
5:23some ways the edicts of of of Marxism
5:27and he really got that education once he
5:29went off to college. But when you look
5:31at Markx and Engles, they were trying to
5:35win over the urban poor in London. The
5:38problem, the thorn on their side was
5:41Spurgeon because Spurgeon was preaching
5:42the gospel. He was preaching Christ and
5:44him crucified. And he was drawing very
5:46large crowds. And this was much to the
5:49chagrin of Marks and Engles. So much so
5:52that whenever um uh Jenny Marx, who's
5:56Karl Marx's daughter, she made this
5:58little questionnaire and she asked
6:00Spurgeon or not Spurgeon, she asked
6:02Engles, you know, who is a character
6:06that you find the most detestable and he
6:09put one word and that word was Spurgeon.
6:12So they saw the gospel as an enemy for
6:16the work that they were trying to do and
6:18they were trying to to your point usurp
6:20the authority uh of the scriptures and
6:23they were trying to replace it with that
6:24of Marxism. Um now it's interesting
6:28because when it comes to Martin Luther
6:31who Karl Marx studied he believed that
6:35um
6:37he he gleaned a lot from Luther. He he
6:39liked the fact that Luther was able to
6:42usurp authority from the Catholic
6:44Church. Um but what Mark said is that
6:48our movement won't stop with the uh you
6:53know the taking back of authority from
6:55the church. Our secularization will take
6:57over the church and will continue on
6:59past the church. So that's what Markx
7:02envisioned. Um he he so if I heard that
7:05correctly, what Markx envisioned was
7:08that the church one day would be
7:10marrying two men, that they would so
7:13reject God that they would be marrying
7:16two men and affirming gay marriage. Is
7:18did I read that right?
7:19>> You could argue that. Yeah, you could
7:21argue that. But um but yeah, so Markx, I
7:24mean, he was a degenerate. Um and he was
7:27a Satanist if you read his poems from,
7:29you know, uh when he was younger. um he
7:32was he had a lot of occultike beliefs.
7:37But anyway, so um so he envisioned
7:41taking what Martin Luther did in a from
7:44a secular perspective and spreading it
7:47far and wide, not just within the
7:48church, but around the world. That's
7:50what he envisioned. And so it's
7:52interesting because did he perceive that
7:55there would one day be a Martin Luther
7:56King Jr.? Probably not. But again, you
8:00when you look at Marxism as a school of
8:02thought and you see it as a kind of
8:04taking up of the baton one generation to
8:07the next, it certainly was a like what
8:10King was doing was certainly within the
8:12continuation and within the tradition
8:14that Karl Marx and Frederick Engel
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8:36>> I'm I'm going to make one more sarcastic
8:38point before moving on. I I I can't
8:41resist it because I just I want the
8:44audience to connect the dots and the
8:47your documentary does a great job, but
8:49I'm I'm trying to put the fine details
8:51on it and just in terms of like what
8:53Carl Marx envision is that a church and
8:57that church goers and people that claim
9:00I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian, but
9:02man, I'm going to vote for these people
9:04that want to stick tubes up a woman's
9:06vagina and slaughter a baby, but I'm
9:09still a Christian.
9:11>> And yes, that's child sacrifice. And
9:13yes, child sacrifice is mentioned in the
9:16Bible. And yes, God is going to punish
9:19people that harm the little children,
9:21his most precious ones. But I'm still a
9:24Christian because, you know, there's
9:27more important things than protecting
9:29children from being slaughtered in the
9:31womb. And God's going to look, he's
9:33going to understand why I, you know,
9:36look the other way on that. I I Karl
9:38Marx is probably the most visionary man
9:42that's maybe ever been on this planet
9:43because right he's looking and smiling
9:46right
9:46>> at what the church is affirming and
9:49allowing
9:50>> right
9:50>> and what Christians
9:52>> think that they can allow and
9:53participate in without violating or
9:56harming their relationship with Jesus
9:58Christ.
9:58>> Yeah. We have a scene in the film where
10:00you have people like Cornell West who's
10:03saying something to the effect of, you
10:05know, I don't want children to starve. I
10:08don't want children as a Christian. I
10:09don't want children to starve. So, how
10:11do we make sure that children are fed?
10:13>> Shill them in the womb.
10:14>> Well, they won't starve if you fill them
10:15in the womb.
10:16>> That's one answer. That's what it's not
10:18the answer that that Cornell West gives,
10:20but is it is an answer according to you
10:22a lot of what we see going on. But the
10:24answer that he gives is socialist
10:27movements. That's how you implement
10:29Christianity is by giving way to
10:32socialist movements. And so the question
10:34the film asks is how did we get here?
10:36Where for a lot of people they see no
10:38difference between communism and and
10:40Christianity. That that that's one of
10:42the biggest questions that the film
10:44seeks to answer. What's the difference?
10:46Because you know, leave it to Martin
10:49Luther King. There is no difference.
10:51Well, and we're we're I put make sure
10:55you buckle your seat belts. We're moving
10:58into descent into landing the plane.
11:01We're not quite there yet, but just
11:03buckle your seat belts up. I I want to
11:06move into why this conversation about
11:09Martin Luther King is vitally important
11:11in terms of understanding
11:14what fundamental changes happened to
11:18American politics and American uh
11:20culture and just American norms in the
11:25aftermath of the Civil Rights Act of
11:271964 in the aftermath of the Civil
11:30Rights Movement. Many people consider
11:33that a new founding of America. It's
11:36such a radical divergence from the
11:39principles that America was was founded
11:42in. And so some people will, you know,
11:45to me will say, of course, you know,
11:48this country was founded on slavery. And
11:51the fact that there was a new founded in
11:531964
11:55makes perfect sense. This is better.
11:57What would you say? Well, you're right.
12:00I mean, when you look at uh this uh guy
12:04John Wood Jr. who's a part of uh Bob
12:07Woodson's 1776
12:09uh which I don't know if it's still
12:11active or not, but it's uh you know Bob
12:13Woodson he has a diversity of of
12:15characters
12:16>> uh which I can appreciate in his um his
12:191776 Unites Yeah.
12:21>> thing which was a response to Nicole
12:24Hannah Jones's 1619 project. Um but he
12:27believes in this whole colorblind
12:29society. He would argue that Martin
12:31Luther King was the founding father of
12:34modern-day America of America 2.0. Uh
12:38sharing with him in this view is the
12:40likes of Tavis Miley. Um the late John
12:44Lewis also believe that that Martin
12:46Luther King is uh modern America's
12:48founding father and they're right.
12:51Unfortunately, it isn't America 2.0. And
12:53it's such a deviation from what America
12:56was meant to be. Sure, the founding
12:58fathers didn't agree on a whole lot. Uh
13:01the convention of the states, the uh
13:05constitutional convention was a very
13:07tumultuous thing. It wasn't something
13:09that they all just came and sunk kumbaya
13:11and then ratified the constitution. They
13:13were vehemently in disagreement. You had
13:16the anti-federalist and you had the
13:17federalist. The anti-federalist, one of
13:20the most notable among them was was
13:22Patrick Henry. and so uh perturbed was
13:26he by what was going on in the
13:27convention that he didn't even show up
13:29to it. And what he predicted would
13:31happen, namely the federal government
13:33imposing its will on the states is what
13:37ended up happening. And so the fact is
13:41um you know when it comes to this kind
13:44of America 2.0
13:46um I would argue that it's not for the
13:48better. It it's certainly not for the
13:50better. One of the things, and you
13:52didn't see this in the in the film, in
13:53the 90 minutes that you watched, but we
13:55talk about the South before slavery,
13:59during slavery, and after slavery. We
14:01talk about the relationship between
14:04slaveholders and slaves. And the reason
14:07why we think it's necessary to address
14:09that, Jason, is because
14:12um in our 21st century way of thinking,
14:16we forget the fact that slavery existed
14:18for the majority of human existence on
14:21this earth. It just did. The economy,
14:23>> it still does, but go ahead.
14:24>> Well, it it it still does, but but um
14:27yeah, I mean, for the overwhelming
14:30majority of our presence on the earth,
14:34slavery existed. And it's hard for a lot
14:37of us to fathom in 21st century America.
14:41The economy and the way that it worked
14:42was different. You didn't have this
14:44industrial boom and this technological
14:46boom where you can work from home and
14:49like it was very rough and rigid and pe
14:52people had to fight the elements and u
14:55work with their hands and work with uh
14:57livestock and animals because they
14:59didn't have the machinery and things of
15:01this nature. This existed not only in
15:03America but around the world. The reason
15:05why there was such an emphasis placed on
15:07slavery in the south even though it
15:09existed in the north not too uh you know
15:13not too long before is because of this
15:18growing trend of Marxism. That's what it
15:20had to do with and you can you can read
15:22about this in the book letters to
15:24Americans which is correspondence
15:26between American politicians, American
15:29Union generals, even Abraham Lincoln
15:31himself and Marks and Engles. They were
15:33in they were in correspondence with each
15:35other and a lot of these so-called
15:38radical Republicans were interested in
15:40usurping
15:42uh in imposing themselves on the South
15:46as a kind of unfinished business left
15:48over from the Convention of States uh
15:53during the um during 1780 uh during the
15:561780s. And so the reason why I think
15:59that's important to bring up is because
16:01um not only did you have the radical
16:05elements who were using slavery as a
16:08kind of exploitative thing to impose
16:11their will. You saw this continuing
16:13throughout reconstruction and you saw
16:15this continuing in a Philip Randolph's
16:17day in the 1930s when he was ahead of
16:20the National Negro Congress and you saw
16:22this happening under Martin Luther King
16:24using race using um you know exploiting
16:28these these in some cases legitimate
16:30grievances to in a sense hand the ball
16:33off to an ever expanding federal
16:36government because that's really what
16:38it's about. It's about expanding the
16:40role of the federal government. And when
16:41you look at the when you follow the
16:43money, you follow the paperwork, you'll
16:45find that the sha the same shadowy
16:47figures who support and fund these
16:50radical politicians are the ones who are
16:52funding these social justice movements
16:53in the streets. So they're playing on
16:55both fronts. On the one hand, they
16:57understand that in a democracy or in in
17:00our case a constitutional republic where
17:02the opinion of the masses matter to some
17:04degree, if you're going to impose your
17:06will, uh you can't just do it from the
17:09from the perspective of the federal
17:10government because you have people who
17:11will cry tyranny and push back against
17:13it. However, if there's enough desire
17:16for it in the streets,
17:18now you have something going for
17:20yourself. And this is why they have an
17:22interest in supporting social justice
17:23movements. So the way like my approach
17:26to history is I want to look at all
17:28sides. I want to you know you know lift
17:32every stone and look under it and not
17:34just take the the um the controlled and
17:39official narrative because often times
17:41what you find is a controlled and
17:43official narrative gives way to tyranny.
17:46The same tyranny that we're supposed to
17:47be fighting. And the fact of the matter
17:49is he who controls the narrative of the
17:51past controls the policies of the
17:54present and the conditions of the
17:55future. So the reason why we've been
17:57lied to for so long isn't just so that
18:00you know they can tell the story the
18:03history of the people they like. The
18:05reason why they tell these stories in
18:07the way that they do is because they
18:08want to control policies for the future.
18:11the reason why we have affirmative a no
18:13longer have affirmative action but you
18:15wouldn't have once again affirmative
18:16action the EI and all the rest of it
18:18without the civil rights movement and so
18:21yes Martin Luther King is and the civil
18:23rights movement is the founding father
18:25or the kind of shifting if you will uh
18:28into America 2.0 know and my question
18:31for anybody is are we better for it? Not
18:34like let's take the technocracy and
18:37let's take industrialization and all of
18:39the benefits that we have gotten which
18:41has more to do with the private sector
18:43than it does the government. Um but
18:45let's take all those that stuff out of
18:47it. Yes, we have a ease of life in some
18:49respects more so than our you know
18:52great-grandfathers. Um however um when
18:55it comes to the fact that we're
18:58committing more suicide,
19:00that we're more obese, that we are
19:04just as far as like just being human
19:06beings who who are capable and
19:10competent. We're not better. We're not
19:13better off. We're just not.
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19:32>> We're just not I think we're more
19:34nihilistic. I I say that abortion is my
19:38issue. It's like if if in the 1750s
19:421850s a child was a blessing,
19:45>> right? Oh, we got more people here
19:48that's going to help us survive and it's
19:50going to be a great asset to our family.
19:51A child's a blessing. Now, a ch a
19:54child's a burden, one that we're willing
19:56to kill at the drop of a hat. And and
19:59trust me, when God finally has final
20:02say, when everybody has to hear his
20:04Supreme Court ruling, he's going to say,
20:07"This child murder, I'd rather I'd
20:09rather you made them slaves."
20:12>> Yeah. I this is much worse, right? And
20:16so what you're willing to do and what
20:19Daryl Cooper uh is willing to do and Ian
20:23Carol and a lot of these nontraditional
20:27historians
20:28is you're willing
20:31to
20:32>> ask questions. not just ask questions,
20:35but
20:35>> you're willing to deal with the wrong
20:38conclusions, with the wrong truth.
20:43>> That there there's
20:45most of history and historians and the
20:48approved historians, they're all willing
20:51to reach the right conclusions.
20:54There go the bad guy. rather than like,
20:59nah,
21:00everybody's a little bad because we're
21:03born with this sin nature. When you take
21:05this biblical worldview and people just
21:08make the best decisions that they can.
21:10And so if in the 1500s
21:14there was widespread slavery and then
21:17you're born in 1550, it's like you've
21:19well why this is common place,
21:21widespread slavery. And then you get to
21:241650 and hey, slaveryy's still around.
21:27It's just it's and so and you know what?
21:30We enslave white people. We enslave
21:31anybody. And then you know we start
21:34doing all this sailing around and
21:35discovery and we come across a group of
21:38people
21:39>> that are enslaving their own.
21:42>> Uh they're selling their own into
21:44slavery. And look how primitive it is.
21:48Look how they don't even have a wheel.
21:50they don't have blah blah blah. I I can
21:54see, and again, this isn't a conclusion
21:56you're supposed to reach, right?
21:57>> But I could see someone saying
21:59>> maybe they'd be better off being slaves,
22:01>> right? and and uh because it's like I
22:06saw a video
22:09in the past year where uh it was some
22:13people in some I believe African land or
22:17some undeveloped land and they were
22:21eating ice for the first time and they
22:24thought you would have thought this was
22:27a miracle and just the excitement of
22:29like they ice and And and and I was
22:32like, and we got people over here in
22:34America thinking we're oppressed and
22:38that we're living
22:39>> I go, they're living in an undeveloped
22:41country that like time has stood still
22:44for and they're just someone gave them a
22:46piece of ice and they think it's a
22:48miracle from God. And and so this is why
22:52uh I don't know if you do you know EW
22:54Jackson, the minister.
22:55>> Yeah. very great orator and but he he
22:59talks about like no I'm I'm a black
23:01American by divine providence that
23:04>> this is exactly where God wants me to be
23:07and this is a blessing
23:09>> and that's how I view it as a black
23:11American and we're not supposed to say
23:13that
23:14>> but I'm going to say it because it's
23:16just factual
23:17>> I would much ra this is the safest most
23:21opportunity rich longest life expectancy
23:26uh place on the planet for black people
23:29right here in America. I'm not going to
23:30deny that truth just so I can receive
23:33the benefits of white guilt or or
23:35whatever. And so
23:38again, we're landing the plane. We just
23:40went through some turbulence because I
23:41got us a little bit uh uh sidetrack. I I
23:45want to get back to the other thing that
23:48I thought was a brilliant and subtle
23:51point in the 90 minutes that I watched.
23:53And I I can't I don't even know if it
23:56was intentional, but it's just like when
23:57you're doing great work, people can see
24:00through lines and truths. But but one of
24:03the things you the aftermath of the
24:05civil rights movement and the more the
24:09empowerment of federal government
24:11>> and and making the federal government
24:13more the end all beall. It helped me as
24:16I just had this like thought balloon and
24:18epiphany. It's like, well, this global
24:22one world government that they're trying
24:24to establish across the globe, they've
24:27done it to the United States.
24:29>> We're supposed to be a bunch of states
24:32with different uh cultures, different
24:36laws, different personalities.
24:39And in the aftermath of the civil rights
24:42movement, the federal government became
24:44even more empowered. power became more
24:48centralized in Washington DC and the
24:51federal government becomes the ultimate
24:53authority far more than the states. And
24:56I'm like, well, what they've done to the
24:59United States is what they want to do to
25:00the world. Yeah, 100%. I mean, like one
25:05of the key components of Marxism is
25:07government owning the means of
25:09production. And that's exactly what the
25:11Civil Rights Act of 1964 did was it gave
25:16the federal government the role of
25:18dictating who a small company hires and
25:22fires and serves and don't serve. Uh
25:24when the reality is I would much rather
25:26a white restaurant owner have a we don't
25:29serve negro sign on the door because it
25:30lets me know like okay if he was forced
25:34by the government not to have that sign
25:36on the door will he spit at my food
25:38because he's having to uh serve me and
25:40so he's doing so out of resentment like
25:42I would much rather live in a society
25:44where people have the right to
25:44discriminate how they so please
25:46irrespective of what the opinion of the
25:48federal government is. That that to me
25:50sounds like a better society. Am I
25:52saying that the states should have the
25:55right to force small businesses which
25:57door to go in and which door they can't
25:59go in as as was happening? No. Uh but
26:02the solution isn't the Civil Rights Act
26:04of 1964. The solution is maybe amending
26:07the Constitution to um to protect small
26:12businesses against the tyranny of either
26:13the state or the federal government.
26:15Maybe that's a but again it's a
26:17conversation that needs to be had. When
26:19you look at the Civil Rights Act of 1964
26:21and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, these
26:24are legislative pieces that these are
26:28decisions that were made out of
26:31um sensationalism.
26:33You had demonstration going on in the
26:35streets. You had speeches that were
26:36given. You had a lot of um um hoaxes
26:40that were going on in the form of church
26:42bombings and house bombings. And people
26:44were reacting out of sensationalism.
26:48there wasn't a whole lot of like
26:49sophisticated
26:51uh serious goodfaith conversations about
26:53okay well we could pass this but is this
26:56really constitutional and one of the few
26:58people who were willing to have that
26:59conversation was Barry Goldwater
27:02um and people rejected him but he he
27:05called the Civil Rights Act in 1964 out
27:07because of its unconstitutionality so he
27:10was one of the people who I think was
27:11willing to have a serious conversation
27:14uh but again the media uh took the side
27:17of King and and basically tried to move
27:20the the people emotionally to be
27:23embracing of of the acts. And to your
27:26point about them doing this in America
27:27in terms of getting rid of this whole
27:30notion that we are a country made up of
27:35states. Um you're absolutely right. You
27:39hit it right on the nose. Uh because the
27:41reality of it is, you know, that is what
27:44we were before the ratification of the
27:46constitution. when we had a
27:47confederation of of of the states where
27:51there were people who fought
27:53like when it came to the civil war there
27:55were people who refused to join the
27:57union because they they considered
27:59themselves no I'm a citizen of Tennessee
28:02no I'm a citizen of Virginia like yes
28:05I'm an American but I'm first and
28:07foremost a citizen of my state and so
28:10you have this kind of honor of being a
28:13son of your state more so than being a
28:17part of this kind of federal thing. Um,
28:20and that's notable. That's that to me is
28:23commendable, but but we have that less
28:25and less these days. And not only that,
28:28the government, the federal government
28:30found a way to inextricably intertwine
28:33the states into its own agenda with
28:36money, with tax dollars. So, they're
28:37bribing us with our own tax dollars. you
28:39can't get this funding unless you adhere
28:42to this or at least you unless you
28:44adhere to that unless you pass this law
28:46in your state legislature or pass that
28:48law in your state legislature. So they
28:49have these woke agendas
28:52and they are requiring that the states
28:55abide and adhere to them and if they
28:57don't then they don't get funding and so
28:59the states oblige especially the ones
29:00that have weak governors. So, I think
29:03that in many ways what's going on here
29:05in the United States is kind of like a a
29:08guinea pig for what they're trying to do
29:10more globally, namely get rid of borders
29:12and and turn us into a a globalist
29:16civilization.
29:17And it makes me very concerned for the
29:20world that my grandchildren will live
29:22in. It really does. But unless and until
29:25we stop
29:27giving way to this kind of demagoguy
29:29allowing these I mean they tried to do
29:32they tried to do what they did with
29:33Martin Luther King and Helen Keller and
29:35all these other uh the um all these
29:39other activists they tried to do it with
29:42uh Greta Thunberg and you see you see
29:44these other kind of people that they are
29:46trying to like um give us the impression
29:50that they are some kind of hero. I don't
29:52think it's as effective these days as it
29:54was in the 60s and and before then. And
29:57perhaps it's because of the fact that
29:59everybody has like the public square is
30:02more saturated these days than it was in
30:04those days. Um where you have people
30:07kind of rising to notoriety
30:10uh with nothing but a camera and a
30:12computer um who are able to podcast and
30:16who are able to start YouTube channels.
30:18So you have a lot of diversity of
30:20opinion that's going on such to where
30:22it's difficult to really push and
30:25promote artificially a singular person
30:28as the one who has all the answers who
30:30will you know is is speaking truth to
30:32power such as you were and so this is
30:35why like Greta Thunberg she went from
30:37being a manufactured hero to a meme
30:42because we don't people don't fall for
30:43it anymore but that doesn't necessarily
30:46mean that the shadowy figures have given
30:48up. They're just coming up with
30:50different ways to do it. And we as
30:52Christians especially have to be as as
30:57uh you know um gentle as as doves but
31:00but as wise as as as serpents. And I and
31:02I fear that unfortunately many churches
31:05are are giving way to this demagoguy and
31:07to this trickery and we don't we don't
31:09have discernment anymore and it's a
31:11problem. Are you optimistic?
31:14>> I'm white peeled. Yes. Yes. I'm not
31:17blackpilled. I'm not I'm not someone who
31:19believes that, oh, it's all going to
31:20burn. Let's just let it all burn down. I
31:23believe that Christ still sits on the
31:26throne. I believe that he alone has the
31:28words of eternal life. And I believe
31:30that we as his remnant have a great
31:34commission to preach Christ and him
31:36crucified. Um that doesn't mean that we
31:38disengage from the culture. I think we
31:40we we address what's going on in the
31:42culture. Uh but then too it's on us to
31:45be the salt and the light. And so yes, I
31:47am optimistic in so far that I believe
31:49that I have something like I found I
31:51found that pearl in the forest and I and
31:57and I want to share that with other
31:59people who are willing to listen to it.
32:00So for me like part of the reason why
32:03it's important to make a documentary
32:04about MLK is because MLK was an
32:06apostate. He was a wolf in sheep's
32:09clothing. He preached something that
32:12pretended to be the gospel but wasn't
32:13the gospel at all. And I have a concern
32:15that many people believe his idea of
32:18what the gospel is. And so it's
32:20necessary to warn you that no, that's
32:22not the gospel at all. The so the social
32:24gospel is not the gospel. And it's
32:26necessary to then find out, okay, well,
32:29what is the true gospel? What does that
32:31mean? And my hope is that people will
32:34turn to Christ and worship God and not
32:35men. Like we need to stop putting men on
32:37pedestals. I don't care who that man is.
32:40Uh, one of my favorite forefathers,
32:43uh, I guess American founding fathers is
32:46Patrick Henry for many reasons, but I'm
32:48not even going to put him on a pedestal.
32:50I'm going to acknowledge, uh, his
32:53wisdom. I'm going to acknowledge how he
32:54had things more right than some of the
32:56other founding fathers, but I'm not
32:58going to worship the man or, you know, I
33:01mean, you acknowledge his faults. And
33:03the fact is some some had more faults
33:04than others. Um, but this whole idea of
33:08like I mean it it it violates the very
33:10first commandment. I am the Lord your
33:12God who led you out of Egypt. You shall
33:14have no other god before me. And many of
33:17us we want so badly for some party or
33:20for some politician or some historical
33:23figure to be the person who we follow.
33:26We want so badly to be led. And to the
33:29point that you so eloquently made
33:30earlier, let Christ lead you.
33:34It's it's really that simple. Let Christ
33:36lead you. But the reality of it is we
33:39want so badly for somebody to be the
33:41enemy and we want so badly for somebody
33:43to be the hero. If you're a Republican,
33:46you wanted to be the Democrats. It's
33:48like, as somebody who studies history,
33:50you realize there were great Democrats
33:53historically. There were great
33:54Republicans historically. There were
33:56terrible Republicans historically,
33:57especially in the 18 in the 1860s.
34:01And you realize that history is not very
34:04partisan. It's just not. Um, and of
34:08course like the modern iteration of the
34:10Republicans are far better than the
34:11modern iteration of the Democrats. That
34:12goes without saying. But to the extent
34:14that you you kind of cluster yourself
34:16into this Republican good, Democrat bad,
34:19you miss a whole lot. And so again, many
34:23of us want for for somebody to be the
34:27enemy. Well, what hap if you make Biden
34:29the enemy and Biden loses the election,
34:31then who now is the enemy? That doesn't
34:33mean that you you don't engage
34:36politically. That doesn't mean that you
34:38don't vote. You just are aware that my
34:40battle is not against flesh and blood.
34:43It it's a it's a much deeper and bigger
34:45war going on. And there's literally
34:48Satan who wishes to steal, kill, and
34:49destroy us. And so we had better pay
34:51attention to who the real hero is, which
34:54is Christ, and who the real villain is,
34:56which is Satan.
34:59I I'm
35:01trying to get into an optimistic place.
35:05And you know, part of what is getting me
35:10there is that I I do think there's and
35:13I'm going to we're landing the plane.
35:15We're about the plane has landed. We're
35:18taxing into the runway actually. Uh but
35:21I'm going to go all the way back to
35:22where we started talking about Kevin
35:24Samuels kind of the manosphere.
35:27>> I do think what makes me a tiny bit
35:30optimistic is that uh men are starting
35:35to realize
35:37that maybe we need to align more
35:41>> and it can't be a skin color thing. It
35:44it has to be
35:47a male leadership thing. There's a
35:49ruggedness
35:50to conversation that has to happen in
35:53order for truth to prevail. This entire
35:56conversation we just had here, I think
35:59men will enjoy it and understand it
36:01more. Women want people to be more
36:05comfortable. They don't want to say
36:06things. They don't want to acknowledge
36:09truths that are really uncomfortable
36:11that like, you know, yes, slavery was
36:15bad, but
36:17maybe it made a little bit of sense
36:20then. And then, not just that it made
36:22sense, but that wow, look at America.
36:25They had such biblical values. They
36:26wrote a constitution and bill of rights
36:28that upended and uprooted slavery
36:32>> and allowed a biblical worldview to
36:34prevail
36:36uh as it relates to ending any sort of
36:39racialized
36:40uh slavery.
36:42But I'm tell I think only uh men can
36:47have the kind of conversations that will
36:51uproot this mentality, this Marxist
36:53mentality
36:55uh that has taken root and has destroyed
36:58the church and and has led to all these
37:01false gospels and false prophets. Uh,
37:05and I think your documentary here, MLK,
37:09uh, the MLK uh, uh, project, I I think
37:15could end up being a very important
37:17voice and lead to a very important
37:20conversation. It's it's I hats off to
37:23you, Chad, for taking on the project,
37:25for doing it at such a high level, uh,
37:28for going after a real icon where
37:31there's risk. I mean, people are going
37:32to be very upset. uh about you and this
37:36documentary and the the truth that
37:38you're exposing. Uh but
37:42uh I I want to support it. I want to
37:45thank you for coming to Nashville and
37:46spending the time uh with me to have
37:49this conversation and to show me uh a
37:52nice little good chunk of of the MLK
37:55project. Help us grow the Fearless Army.
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