Cented Reveals the DARK TRUTH of Memecoins in 2026.. (INTERVIEW) — Transcript
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- 0:00is upset because you're not on face cam.
- 0:01I can already tell.
- 0:03I just don't want to do face cam, bro,
- 0:04if that's cool. Okay, okay. Can Can we
- 0:07just Can we just talk about the fact
- 0:08that you kind of mog IRL?
- 0:11Uh dude, I just kind of don't really
- 0:14care, you know, I just don't like doing
- 0:16face cam, you know, but I appreciate it,
- 0:18you know.
- 0:19>> [laughter]
- 0:20>> I need a shower and [ __ ] before I do all
- 0:22that, you know. Okay. Jail jail in the
- 0:24hair and [ __ ] you know. Okay, okay,
- 0:26that's Wait, so can you can you give us
- 0:28a rundown on
- 0:30your I I know you were in FaZe,
- 0:33Oh, oh, we're going way back.
- 0:34>> No, I I actually do because I I have a
- 0:37question. Do you upload these on YouTube
- 0:38and [ __ ] We'll get this one on YouTube.
- 0:40Elliot, if you're listening, we're
- 0:41getting this on YouTube. I was just
- 0:42wondering. I was just wondering. Okay,
- 0:44okay, so you were in you were in FaZe,
- 0:46but like correct me if I'm wrong, it was
- 0:47when FaZe like was ass, right? It was
- 0:49like it was like the gay version of
- 0:50FaZe. It was like um so I played
- 0:52professional Fortnite for like a long
- 0:54time, right? I started when I was 16
- 0:57maybe and then I worked at a uh
- 0:59gas station and whatever and bought my
- 1:01first computer and stuff and then
- 1:02dropped out of high school, went pro in
- 1:03Fortnite, and then uh I was on Liquid.
- 1:06You know what Liquid is? I would assume,
- 1:07right? Kind of. No.
- 1:10No, Liquid's like another big org. So I
- 1:11was on Liquid. Okay.
- 1:13>> Um then
- 1:15Liquid didn't resign me and then I got
- 1:16picked up to FaZe and then uh it was
- 1:18like kind of on the way out of of FaZe,
- 1:20so yeah, I guess kind of ass, you know.
- 1:22But yeah. Would you would you talk about
- 1:24like why you left FaZe and things like
- 1:25that or is that should we just avoid it?
- 1:26>> got I think it's a funny story. I think
- 1:29it's a funny story how you got kicked
- 1:30out of FaZe, bro.
- 1:32Yeah, bro, it's like you were kind of
- 1:34ahead of your time a little bit. No, I'm
- 1:35kidding. I'm kidding.
- 1:36Dude, everyone rips the hard R, bro.
- 1:38>> No, tell the story about how you got
- 1:39kicked out of FaZe, bro, just real
- 1:40quick.
- 1:41What do you mean? I ripped the hard E,
- 1:42bro, on I ripped it on some European
- 1:44guy's stream, bro, and I was like he
- 1:45joined my call. I didn't know he was
- 1:47live. And then everyone rips it, bro,
- 1:49like who really cares, you know? So I
- 1:51was like, "Yo, what's up?" And then I
- 1:53full on just ripped it on stream, you
- 1:55know. That's disgusting.
- 1:57>> that's What do you mean it's disgusting?
- 1:58You should definitely be saying it off
- 1:59stream. I would never publicly say the I
- 2:01would never publicly say any of those
- 2:03words ever in history. I would never do
- 2:04it.
- 2:05Fair enough. But yeah, no, now at least
- 2:07I can just say it cuz I don't really
- 2:08have to worry about anything. I don't
- 2:10really say it that often, but you know,
- 2:11if it slips out, it slips out, you know.
- 2:13It really slipped out there, huh?
- 2:14>> [laughter]
- 2:15>> Okay, but were you like
- 2:16>> Yo, were you depressed like at the time
- 2:18when it happened?
- 2:19>> Oh my god, bro. My life So when I got So
- 2:21it was like 6 months after I said it on
- 2:23stream. I said it on stream and it was
- 2:25like some um
- 2:26it was a Danish streamer, right? So a
- 2:28lot of the chat didn't speak English
- 2:29probably, I would assume or something.
- 2:31And then 6 months later I'm playing like
- 2:33a cash cup. I'm like peaking in my in my
- 2:35prime. And uh the clip mid cash cup is
- 2:38just dropped on the timeline. I started
- 2:40tweaking the [ __ ] out. And then life
- 2:41kind of went downhill from there.
- 2:43Um I got like kicked out of Saudi, lost
- 2:46my sponsorships, lost my salary on my
- 2:48org, kind of just had to figure out what
- 2:51to do with my life, you know.
- 2:53I mean, [snorts] yeah, and then
- 2:54eventually you got into trenching. When
- 2:56did you join crypto? Because a lot of
- 2:58people like the day you joined crypto,
- 3:00it marks like your your era, your class.
- 3:03Like I'm kind of like class of 2021.
- 3:05Like that's when I joined was NFTs. But
- 3:07like when did you when did you join
- 3:10crypto on chain? Like when did you first
- 3:12trade on chain? Well,
- 3:14first Okay, so like you know like when
- 3:16uh NFTs were a thing and you'd uh kind
- 3:19of with the Twitter you'd get paid to
- 3:21uh post like the the deals and [ __ ]
- 3:24You ever do any of those? No, no, no,
- 3:26no, I wasn't uh I wasn't a content
- 3:28creator. I didn't have a big account. I
- 3:29was just like a a normie.
- 3:32Well, I kind of saw it there and I I
- 3:33bought some NFTs and got absolutely
- 3:34obliterated back in the day. I wasn't
- 3:36allowed to post cuz I was on FaZe. Um
- 3:39but I got obliterated on NFTs a little
- 3:40bit, only like a couple grand. But then
- 3:43got some early access with some [ __ ] cuz
- 3:45I was post I didn't even know what was
- 3:46going on back then, but made like
- 3:49like 7 grand trading some [ __ ] like
- 3:51XCAD or some [ __ ] Me and the boys back
- 3:53in the day we got early access on XCAD
- 3:56um cuz we posted. We didn't even know
- 3:58what we were doing and then that's like
- 3:59my first crypto trade, but then I got
- 4:01into meme coins November 2024.
- 4:04Wow, okay. November 24
- 4:07>> like early
- 4:09Yo, we lost you. We lost you.
- 4:11And my my headset cut out. My bad. End
- 4:13of October, like very end of October
- 4:152024.
- 4:16>> you start streaming right when you did
- 4:17it?
- 4:18Uh no, I was honestly trying to figure
- 4:20out what
- 4:21what was um
- 4:23like how to do it and stuff like that,
- 4:24you know. I actually on day one I
- 4:26dropped Senate coin and it went to 900k,
- 4:28but I didn't really know what I was
- 4:29doing, so Jesus, bro.
- 4:31>> told me to just drop the CA and then I
- 4:33got sent a 50%er and I stacked the
- 4:3550%er.
- 4:36Um but I didn't really know what I was
- 4:38doing. I didn't really make money on the
- 4:39Senate coin itself. I just stacked the
- 4:41money that was sent to me in the 50%er,
- 4:43you know what I mean?
- 4:43>> Right, right. And you have this style of
- 4:45trading. I I think it's similar to the
- 4:47Cupsy style where Cupsy it kind of
- 4:49shocked me. Like Cupsy's never had a
- 4:51seven-figure PNL. So I'm like, "Okay,
- 4:53what's your biggest trade?"
- 4:56Uh I made 200k on ARK.
- 4:59Um
- 5:00like you know ARK back in the day 600
- 5:02mil or whatever. I made like 100k on
- 5:04GORK or whatever. Like should have been
- 5:05a lot more.
- 5:07Um and then I have just a bunch of 50k
- 5:09PNLs all over the place.
- 5:11Wow, okay. Wait, thank you Mac for the
- 5:1310 gifted. Thank you so much, bro. Um
- 5:15but that's crazy cuz you have had PNLs
- 5:19Your total PNL I've seen it. It's like
- 5:22it's about 10 mil, right? Everybody kind
- 5:24of can see
- 5:24>> probably like nine nine nine or
- 5:26something like that before tax or
- 5:27whatever.
- 5:27>> so you have nine million dollars in your
- 5:30total PNL, but you don't have a single
- 5:32trade above 200 or like your biggest
- 5:35trade is like 200.
- 5:37That means that you're making tons of
- 5:39money on itty-bitty wins.
- 5:42It It's kind of an insane like thing,
- 5:44bro. Like you must have bought tens of
- 5:45thousands of coins at this point.
- 5:48Yeah, well, what's it called? When you
- 5:49when I got first got into trenching, the
- 5:52kind of as a Fortnite kid, you see you
- 5:57Did you know who Stacky was or no?
- 5:59I've heard these names, man. I'm not a
- 6:01huge fan.
- 6:02>> was like a Cupsy, but
- 6:05prob like probably the same skill back
- 6:06in the day when I first got into it. And
- 6:08I would see them buy like first TX a
- 6:10good coin and they'd be clipping at like
- 6:14I don't know, 100k, 200k, 300k and
- 6:16they'd be clipping early with a lot of
- 6:17supply, right? And that's kind of
- 6:19what you see is the most dopamine or
- 6:21most profitable as a gamer or as someone
- 6:25who's willing to put in the effort all
- 6:27day, you know what I mean? So you kind
- 6:28of try to replicate that style and then
- 6:30if you get as good as them or
- 6:33and whatnot, you just continue on with
- 6:36that style, but then you also try to
- 6:37replicate in holding and everything like
- 6:39that. You do a little bit of everything
- 6:40if that makes sense.
- 6:41Okay, okay, that's valid. That's valid.
- 6:43Um but but I don't think that's exactly
- 6:45like I think I think you've coined a new
- 6:47style and and we're going to get into
- 6:49the Mayhem Mayhem [ __ ] and everything,
- 6:50but um you kind of got this like
- 6:53>> [laughter]
- 6:53>> Yeah, yeah, I want to learn about this
- 6:54cuz I'm so confused when I think about
- 6:56it, but you have this like Fortnite
- 6:58style of trading, I would say. Yeah.
- 7:00What is the What is the translation
- 7:02between being one of these trenchers
- 7:04that can that can [ __ ] like one tap a
- 7:07[ __ ] coin and and playing Fortnite
- 7:10and doing crazy builds and [ __ ] Like
- 7:11what what is the translation? Like how
- 7:13does that Why are Fortnite people so
- 7:15good at trenching? I don't get it.
- 7:17>> I think it's honestly a lot of hard
- 7:20work. I think if you sit here all day
- 7:22every day. So when I first started,
- 7:23right? I didn't really have the
- 7:24intuition to be able to see. So I mean,
- 7:27I think the style has been around. I'll
- 7:29I'll kind of go backwards here. I think
- 7:30the style's been around for so long,
- 7:32right?
- 7:33It's just we saw so much more volume in
- 7:35the past, so coins would run a lot
- 7:36higher. There's always people taking
- 7:38profits no matter what. And maybe the
- 7:39mindset was a little different back
- 7:40then, so coins would run higher and yada
- 7:42yada.
- 7:43But I think what
- 7:45makes someone so good is just sitting
- 7:47down all day every day and kind of even
- 7:49be being able to like not even hover a
- 7:50link of a coin, not even know what it
- 7:52is, but just see the name in the photo
- 7:54and knowing it had a lot um
- 7:56like just kind of knowing the potential
- 7:58just from even seeing the name in the
- 7:59photo and building up like an intuition
- 8:00if that makes sense.
- 8:02Of what has the potential to run, what
- 8:04hasn't been done, what has been done
- 8:07um if that makes sense. Okay, but
- 8:08there's an obvious
- 8:10There's obviously I mean, you've heard
- 8:12the the criticisms about you. Like I'm
- 8:14not going to be saying anything you
- 8:15haven't heard. I mean, we have a chatter
- 8:16saying
- 8:17>> good. You're good.
- 8:18>> We have a chatter saying obviously have
- 8:20just have a a thousand teenage Fortnite
- 8:22kid audience who are dying to buy on top
- 8:23of you on any coin you buy.
- 8:24>> Yeah. Yeah. So
- 8:27I'm not arguing that my wallet's
- 8:28tracked. My wallet's obviously tracked,
- 8:30right? But I mean, I probably stream
- 8:33about I would say half the days and I
- 8:36only stream just cuz I'm bored,
- 8:37honestly. Volume's low. Um
- 8:402 days ago I made like 500 sol off
- 8:42stream. Day before that was like 250,
- 8:44300, you know? It's not like I'm sitting
- 8:45there streaming saying stuff is good all
- 8:47day.
- 8:48Um
- 8:50But yeah. But okay, so I I I do believe
- 8:53that streaming is
- 8:55not fair, but if other people are
- 8:57Like I don't think streaming is fair, to
- 8:59be honest. If that's what you're kind of
- 9:00getting at in the questions you want to
- 9:01ask, you know.
- 9:01>> So are you more profitable on stream or
- 9:03off stream? Cuz people in my chat were
- 9:05saying you're more profitable off
- 9:06stream.
- 9:08Yeah, I would say it's probably about
- 9:09the same. Like I trade the same I do
- 9:11vamp. I would say I vamp a lot more
- 9:13coins off stream cuz I don't feel like
- 9:15if I'm if I'm buying a vamp on stream
- 9:17like there's So in the trenches right
- 9:19now, you're trenching, right? There's
- 9:20agent mode, there's cashback, there's
- 9:21everything. You're I try to avoid buying
- 9:24vamps at the floor on stream, right? So
- 9:27um off stream I'll buy a lot more vamps
- 9:30earlier. I'll notice the coin is off
- 9:31that's going
- 9:33um
- 9:34and vamp a lot more, but I think it's
- 9:36probably about the same, maybe a little
- 9:38more off stream. I just stream just to
- 9:39stream. Yeah. It's just like it's
- 9:42difficult when bro, like when you're the
- 9:44first TX
- 9:46and your wallet is tracked, it's like
- 9:48you can't lose. So it's like here's how
- 9:50I view it, right? It's like you're
- 9:51buying the low low cap coins. So like
- 9:54you can't really you're not really
- 9:56buying a low cap coin and losing. So
- 9:58it's like you're only taking wins.
- 10:00And so it's like I I I don't know like
- 10:04I don't even know like it seems like
- 10:05there's still strategy with good coins.
- 10:09But everybody thinks you're the goat.
- 10:10Like you you you rated me and your whole
- 10:12chat is like he's just the goat. He's
- 10:14picking coins better. He's better at
- 10:16trading. So I actually don't have I
- 10:18haven't watched your [ __ ] streams
- 10:19enough to [ __ ] understand it. I just
- 10:21I'm curious like what your what your
- 10:22what your thoughts are about.
- 10:24Um so I mean if you look on kills again
- 10:27I don't really look at this that often
- 10:28or anything but I've won 100 trades and
- 10:31I've lost 145 in the last day. So it's
- 10:33like I'm buying
- 10:35I'm not only buying the floor of coins
- 10:37if that makes sense. Like I bought
- 10:39there's like goon coin out right now at
- 10:4070k. I bought that at I blasted 10 soul
- 10:43at 29k. Sold it at like 55 and I made
- 10:46like nine soul before. Like I I take
- 10:48losses. I don't only buy
- 10:50coins at the floor. I know there's some
- 10:52people that buy coins at the floor and
- 10:54they're like this is good and this is
- 10:55good and stuff but most people aren't
- 10:56just
- 10:57buying coins at the floor and I also
- 10:59don't really like stream every day if
- 11:02that makes sense, you know. Okay. Okay.
- 11:05Okay. Do you think
- 11:06>> a lot of Twitter thinks I'm
- 11:09bundling on side wallets
- 11:12streaming 24/7
- 11:14um
- 11:16and whatever but I'm not I'm not really.
- 11:18So how do your side Yeah, how do your
- 11:20side wallets work cuz I know you have a
- 11:21lot of wallets but so like do people
- 11:23track all of them or is there just Yeah,
- 11:25I think all my wallets are tracked. I
- 11:27buy on my main and then I split into my
- 11:30sides.
- 11:31So like you can see how much I buy on my
- 11:33main normally and I buy and sell pretty
- 11:35like obviously sometimes if I
- 11:37So right now
- 11:39when you buy a coin and if it doesn't go
- 11:42the best way if it's good, right? And
- 11:44you want it to go you buy it up to like
- 11:4610k because more people are going to
- 11:47look at the coin if that makes sense,
- 11:49you know. Got it. Okay. Very often very
- 11:52rarely am I buying on my main buying on
- 11:54alts bundling coins.
- 11:57Like if there's a good coin I'm going to
- 11:58buy as much as I can at the floor of the
- 12:00coin, you know. But I think also that in
- 12:04itself or being fast to good coins and
- 12:07being able to get 10 soul in under 10k
- 12:09is a skill in itself, you know what I
- 12:10mean? Yeah.
- 12:11>> everyone's trying to get 10 soul in
- 12:13under 10k on a good coin
- 12:15then
- 12:16it it's like a skill in itself, you
- 12:17know.
- 12:18Okay. I I had this I had this take where
- 12:21I'm like dude back in my day like back
- 12:23when I used to trench bro like
- 12:25[ __ ] were not getting more than
- 12:27like I mean like I know I said everybody
- 12:29would get 1.5%. That's not true.
- 12:31[ __ ] were not getting more than
- 12:327%. Like you know what I'm saying? Like
- 12:34there was almost this there was almost
- 12:36this this etiquette. I was saying like
- 12:38it's like golf etiquette. It's like you
- 12:40don't buy bro. You don't like why are
- 12:41you buying 10 soul at 10k market cap?
- 12:45Like that is like
- 12:46that's just like
- 12:48why not just buy 2%?
- 12:50Well it's kind of like if if you see the
- 12:52opportunity to make money you're just
- 12:53going to grab it, you know what I mean?
- 12:55If it's not like a if it's like a you
- 12:57you you ever watch the Twitter plays and
- 12:59stuff?
- 13:00Like those plays where like Elon tweets
- 13:02something and
- 13:04>> Yes. you get the first buy that's 10
- 13:05soul. Why would you not try to do that,
- 13:07you know what I mean?
- 13:08I get it.
- 13:09>> I subject myself to someone else doing
- 13:11that when I could if I'm faster just be
- 13:13the one to do it, you know what I mean?
- 13:14>> The reason is is theoretically if you
- 13:16have too much percent then there's a
- 13:18lower ceiling. Theoretically if people
- 13:20don't want to buy a coin if they see
- 13:22Scented has 30% and he's selling at 50k.
- 13:25But okay yeah but the thing is like if
- 13:27the coin is good enough your your job as
- 13:30a trader is to put yourself in the
- 13:32position to have as much supply of the
- 13:34coin that is guaranteed to run, you know
- 13:36what I mean?
- 13:37So why why would you not like you want
- 13:40to have all the supply when people are
- 13:42forced to buy on you. If they don't want
- 13:43to buy on you they're just
- 13:45they're just fading a good coin. You
- 13:47want to put people in that position if
- 13:48that makes sense, you know what I mean?
- 13:50Yeah, I totally get it and Creo just
- 13:52said you basically just ask Naseem and
- 13:53Profit why they bought $1 million worth
- 13:55of Trump and not 50k so everyone else
- 13:57can have a piece.
- 13:58It's a it's a fair point. Like it's
- 14:00actually a good counter argument. It's
- 14:02like why wouldn't Scented buy as much as
- 14:04he can if he thinks it's going to go up
- 14:06and and everybody else would have to
- 14:08take the coins from him. If he doesn't
- 14:09buy that much other people have to other
- 14:12people get the same entry and they might
- 14:13sell. So
- 14:15it's it's it's a tough it's a weird
- 14:17scenario but I
- 14:19I don't know what you think like do you
- 14:21think the trenches are in a good spot at
- 14:22least?
- 14:23No. Absolutely horrible.
- 14:25>> Okay.
- 14:25>> Like when I first started you'd see
- 14:26coins go 500k 500k 500k 500k, right? And
- 14:30I mean I don't know if it's just the
- 14:32game's evolved or whatever, right? But I
- 14:35mean especially in the last like couple
- 14:36weeks I've seen so many vamps and
- 14:40crazy PvP but why
- 14:43if that is happening I'm going to
- 14:46subject myself to make as much money as
- 14:48possible by buying those vamps early
- 14:49being early to those coins and whatever,
- 14:52you know what I'm saying? Well this is
- 14:54my least favorite This is probably my
- 14:56least favorite and least defensible
- 14:58thing
- 14:59people on stream do is vamp.
- 15:01Like like I I don't I don't care
- 15:03>> Totally totally I don't care what the
- 15:04reason is. I don't care if the ticker is
- 15:06better. I don't care if the name is
- 15:08better. I'm not saying you specifically
- 15:09do I think everybody probably does it
- 15:11but it's just like y'all promoting vamps
- 15:14because like a [ __ ] word is like
- 15:16slightly superior. So you're buying the
- 15:20coin and you're vamping a coin at
- 15:21[ __ ] 30k and you're buying a
- 15:23different one at 10k instead of buying
- 15:25the first one. It's I I really think
- 15:28that's like pretty indefensible and
- 15:30probably the worst thing that I see
- 15:31anybody doing to be honest. I I fully
- 15:33agree but it's like now at this point
- 15:35like I can't not do like I can't buy the
- 15:39main coin. If I try to buy the main coin
- 15:41and the other one's slightly better
- 15:43you're just going to get destroyed on
- 15:44the main every time. So it's like kind
- 15:46of
- 15:47>> even you you think even you would get
- 15:49destroyed if you vamp if you bought a a
- 15:51main runner and there was a slightly
- 15:54better vamp? You think even with your
- 15:55wallet even with your viewers you're
- 15:57getting destroyed.
- 15:58Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like it doesn't make
- 16:00that like don't get me wrong it makes a
- 16:02little bit of a difference but you're
- 16:04just destroyed 10 out of 10 times if if
- 16:06there's a coin that's even slightly
- 16:08better.
- 16:09Okay. Like it's it's come to not not
- 16:13streamers vamping not tracked wallets
- 16:16vamping. It's everyone vamping.
- 16:17Everyone's trying to get to the best
- 16:18coin as fast as they can and then often
- 16:21times you'll just see two coins same
- 16:23market cap PvP'ing
- 16:25just doing the exact same thing and it's
- 16:27not because of wallets or anything. It's
- 16:28just literally everyone is so
- 16:30conditioned to find and nitpick every
- 16:33single little thing about a coin if that
- 16:35makes sense. Right. Right. It's just
- 16:36weird with vamping cuz certain people
- 16:38and certain like the more your wallet is
- 16:40tracked the more impact you have on the
- 16:42vamp. And so it's kind of like
- 16:45it's like when when it's sometimes when
- 16:47it's a toss up I've seen clips where
- 16:48people are buying the lower one just
- 16:50just to vamp, you know what I mean?
- 16:52I don't A lot of people are calling me
- 16:53[ __ ] but I I know I'm not like deep
- 16:56in the trenches like in the recent
- 16:57months in the same way that y'all are
- 16:59but
- 17:01I've trenched, you know what I'm saying?
- 17:02So do you have any like thoughts on what
- 17:04could be fixed? Like why do you think
- 17:07coins aren't going higher? What do you
- 17:08think the biggest problem is?
- 17:11Um dude I have no idea. I just think
- 17:14like personally I think when you put
- 17:16money on the line people are going to
- 17:18adapt and the people that sit here all
- 17:20day are going to make the most money,
- 17:21right? Um
- 17:24and slowly but surely you're going to
- 17:26see the people that are the ones
- 17:28blasting the ones that are kind of late
- 17:29to stuff the
- 17:31the ones who aren't on all day are just
- 17:34going to get destroyed over and over and
- 17:35over again, you know what I mean? Um
- 17:38if that makes sense. I think that's just
- 17:39kind of part of the main problem of as
- 17:41to why the
- 17:42trenches have slowed down and whatnot.
- 17:45No one's getting rewarded for top
- 17:47blasting basically. Like no one's
- 17:48getting rewarded for taking a coin from
- 17:50100 to to 500 and just blasting. Yeah.
- 17:53Yeah. Okay. Um what do you think about
- 17:57devs
- 17:58and and creator fees and all that?
- 17:59>> didn't I think
- 18:02the cashback and stuff
- 18:04is
- 18:06and the agent mode are kind of weird but
- 18:09I mean I didn't dev for a while and then
- 18:11I started I set up like rapid launch and
- 18:13[ __ ] like that so that when when you see
- 18:15a coin that's wrong you can just make a
- 18:16new one, you know what I mean? So
- 18:18everyone every person kind of uses like
- 18:21rapid launch and everything like that.
- 18:23And or or J7 or
- 18:26um you Zento and everything like that.
- 18:28Like every single trencher every single
- 18:31person in the trenches has one of those
- 18:33set up where they can write a tweet see
- 18:36a narrative and make the coin if that
- 18:37makes sense. How successful of a dev are
- 18:40you so far? I know you've deployed a
- 18:41lot.
- 18:42>> horrible.
- 18:43>> You're horrible, really? What I'm a
- 18:44terrible dev, bro.
- 18:45>> So how do you how do you measure like
- 18:47why are you saying you're horrible? Like
- 18:48what what by what measure?
- 18:50Uh I'm not like someone who's getting
- 18:52everything quick. Like my job is to
- 18:53trade, you know. I don't really dev like
- 18:55that. Like if I see something wrong like
- 18:57if we've come to the point where if
- 18:58there's a coin running and it deserves
- 19:00to go on agent mode I just rip it on
- 19:01agent mode really quick or but normally
- 19:03nine times out of 10 someone else is
- 19:06is
- 19:07uh
- 19:08has got that out before me and [ __ ]
- 19:09>> Okay. Okay. And and it's okay. It's it's
- 19:12so interesting. You're you're a terrible
- 19:14dev but you're first transaction on all
- 19:16these coins. It's like you you might as
- 19:18well be the dev if you're first TX, no?
- 19:20Well no but the thing is there's so now
- 19:22there's block zeros. There is um
- 19:25So when you buy a dev let's say someone
- 19:27does a three soul dev or a five soul dev
- 19:2915% they often times put two or three
- 19:34more wallets in the same block as the
- 19:36dev and you're so they have the dev
- 19:39wallet they sell the dev wallet and then
- 19:41they have three more wallets in at the
- 19:43floor with like 1.5 soul each. So they
- 19:46have in at like
- 19:47>> Oh yeah. That's why
- 19:48>> the point? What's the point of that? So
- 19:50that they have more supply?
- 19:51Yeah, they have all the supply and then
- 19:53there's no risk. Um
- 19:56There's no risk
- 19:58in like they don't lose. They they're in
- 20:01they're the first wallets in. So all
- 20:02these platforms have wallets in before
- 20:05anyone can even buy if that makes sense.
- 20:07Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And it's
- 20:08like that on every coin. Like if you buy
- 20:10a coin, you're you're just getting
- 20:11slammed most of the time. If you don't
- 20:13buy a good coin like so new pairs used
- 20:15to be everyone would kind of battle it
- 20:16out for first TX
- 20:18um back in the day and everyone would
- 20:20kind of battle it out and oftentimes
- 20:22you'd have like a three sol dev. You'd
- 20:24have like a 10% that was a lot, right?
- 20:25When I first started. You'd have the 10%
- 20:28and you'd buy and you'd battle it out
- 20:30for first TX, but now you have to be so
- 20:32selective on what you're going to buy
- 20:34especially if you don't have a track
- 20:35wallet say or or a like a copy trade bot
- 20:38on your wallet or some some [ __ ]
- 20:39like that. You are just slammed by these
- 20:42block zeros 10 out of 10 times. Right.
- 20:45>> If you don't buy something like the next
- 20:46Bitcoin, you know what I mean? Right,
- 20:47right, exactly. By the way, chat, you
- 20:49guys are all calling me [ __ ] normie.
- 20:51My job is not to make you think I'm
- 20:52smart. My job is to get the [ __ ]
- 20:53clips. So get off my [ __ ] dick about
- 20:55being clueless. I'm getting the
- 20:56questions and I'm getting the answers.
- 20:58So shut the [ __ ] up. Holy [ __ ] I feel
- 21:00like there's probably a lot of trenches
- 21:01and like there's probably some normies
- 21:02that are like, you know, upset at me and
- 21:04stuff, but then there's probably
- 21:05trenches that know you're kind of like
- 21:07not deep in the trenches if that makes
- 21:09sense.
- 21:09>> yeah, it's okay. It's okay. But so so
- 21:11how much have you made on creator fees?
- 21:13Like I'm assuming not nearly as much.
- 21:14>> Oh, I only made like I only made like
- 21:1630K on creator fees back That was when
- 21:19um fees aren't even a thing anymore
- 21:21really. So fees are like useless now.
- 21:23It's all cashback and agent mode most of
- 21:25the time unless there's a a project
- 21:27being run, but I don't really do
- 21:28anything like that. So every cashback So
- 21:31every coin that isn't a cashback coin,
- 21:33they're they're not [ __ ] they're not
- 21:34it's going to get vamped basically.
- 21:36Well, unless it's like a project. So
- 21:38normally like you'll see a project
- 21:40deployed and then right after
- 21:42even if it doesn't have cashback or
- 21:44anything
- 21:45like a project with fees or anything the
- 21:48fees still go to the dev.
- 21:50Um instantly people are even if it's a
- 21:52project people are deploying cashback
- 21:54and they're trying to vamp cuz like you
- 21:56just expect everything to be on cashback
- 21:58or agent mode or anything like that. And
- 22:00agent mode's kind of like a flywheel,
- 22:01but now we're so conditioned to
- 22:04um
- 22:04like anything with AI gets put on agent
- 22:06mode. It's it's really weird. Like
- 22:08[snorts] there's max PVP uh on every
- 22:10coin.
- 22:11>> Wait, how are the how is it different on
- 22:12agent Oh, it goes to the agent
- 22:14basically. That's
- 22:15>> Yeah, and then the agent like blast it
- 22:16into chart. Like it'll rip like a 30 sol
- 22:18buy at like 100K. It's weird. It's
- 22:20really weird. But anything with AI
- 22:22because the name's agent mode goes on
- 22:24agent mode and anything else goes on
- 22:26cashback and then projects go on a dev
- 22:29fees. I'm surprised that the agent coins
- 22:31are are running or at least like they
- 22:32have volume. I I I didn't actually
- 22:34expect that.
- 22:35No, it's like it's like both of those.
- 22:37You get uh agent mode or cashback
- 22:40normally or project, you know. Got it,
- 22:42got it. And of course, let's just talk
- 22:43about it, bro. The mayhem mode, the
- 22:45mayhem bot. Oh, dude, I just started
- 22:48that. Bro, can you So are you profitable
- 22:50against the mayhem bot? Oh, hell no. I
- 22:52lost 70 sol today doing that. I was up
- 22:53100 sol
- 22:55uh and then I went down like 10 earlier
- 22:58and then just kind of
- 23:00So everyone recently just started doing
- 23:01the mayhem stuff. I don't know why, but
- 23:04you'll see like Clads or Waiter G. I
- 23:06don't know if you know who they are. You
- 23:07might know Clads, but they they were
- 23:09they made like 50 sol on a couple of the
- 23:11mayhem bots and uh I was kind of just
- 23:14spamming them out today just getting
- 23:15absolutely destroyed by the thing. Okay,
- 23:17someone said mayhem this can't be real.
- 23:19Mayhem bot is up 15,000 sol today? That
- 23:21can't be real. I I think
- 23:24um
- 23:25uh I think it's fake. Okay.
- 23:28So So so but it shows that on Axiom.
- 23:31What's
- 23:31So can you explain what mayhem mode is
- 23:34and how you're trying to PVP it cuz a
- 23:35lot of people probably don't understand
- 23:36it. Oh, no. Mayhem mode's irrelevant.
- 23:38You're just going to get destroyed every
- 23:39time. Like you're full gambling. Like
- 23:42you can dev the coin and it just goes
- 23:43right to zero right away. I don't think
- 23:45that's something anyone should ever do.
- 23:47But re recently uh like you'll you'll
- 23:51open new pairs and it's all mayhem
- 23:53uh
- 23:54just people full gambling. Like you're
- 23:55going to get destroyed almost every
- 23:57time, but you can just get lucky, you
- 23:58know? Got it. So you're devving your own
- 24:00mayhem coins and then basically I So
- 24:01you're devving your devving your own
- 24:03mayhem coins and then basically trying
- 24:04to like trade against it as as a troll?
- 24:06You're not you're not even trading
- 24:07against it. You're just praying it buys.
- 24:09You're literally just praying it buys.
- 24:11People are so bored. Well, it's
- 24:12obviously programmed to not be to be
- 24:14profitable. It has to be. So that's kind
- 24:15of [ __ ] I mean So so people are
- 24:17saying that the mayhem mode the mayhem
- 24:19bot is up 1.2 mil,
- 24:22but I think it's in it's in the LPs,
- 24:24right? Like they have all these
- 24:25worthless coins if
- 24:28I have absolutely no idea to be honest
- 24:30with you. Like it's something that just
- 24:31came into effect like the last three
- 24:33days where people are just bored
- 24:34gambling with it, you know? Okay, okay.
- 24:36>> Just trying to go for a massive PNL on
- 24:38it or something, you know? Like I was I
- 24:40just did 10 sol devs, 10 sol devs, 10
- 24:42sol devs and half the time it just goes
- 24:44right to zero and you lose eight
- 24:45instantly. Okay, okay, cool.
- 24:48Goes right to zero and you lose eight.
- 24:49That's funny. Okay.
- 24:50Um I'm going to look at the pump.fun
- 24:52fees right now and this is one of the
- 24:54most perplexing things I have ever seen
- 24:57in crypto. Just the past week I'll tell
- 24:59you the numbers of how much money
- 25:01pump.fun has collected in revenue in the
- 25:03past 7 days. A million.
- 25:05832,000. 966,000.
- 25:08A million. A million. 1.1 million. 1.1
- 25:12million. 1.5 million. It's doing over a
- 25:16million dollars every day. How the [ __ ]
- 25:19is pump.fun making so much money? Do you
- 25:21have any idea what's going on?
- 25:23Well, there's still volume, bro. Like
- 25:25when you get on, there's still good
- 25:27volume. It's just max PVP, you know?
- 25:29Like everyone's fighting a war.
- 25:30Everyone's Like the ceiling might be
- 25:31lower, but there's still a bunch of
- 25:33people trading, you know? It's not like
- 25:35I mean we don't have generational
- 25:36runners, which kind of sucks where you
- 25:38can kind of see a vision right away and
- 25:40stuff. Um
- 25:42But I mean there's still volume and
- 25:43everything like that. I have no idea.
- 25:45>> But it's like the same they're making a
- 25:47million every day. A million, a million,
- 25:49a million. It's not even up and down. So
- 25:50are you seeing that in the trenches?
- 25:51Like is the volume basically stable
- 25:53every single day?
- 25:55Yeah, it's pretty low honestly. It's
- 25:56pretty low every single day.
- 25:58>> But it's the same. Like do you do you
- 25:59see some days it's like volume's hot or
- 26:01is it usually the same people every day
- 26:03addicted doing it?
- 26:05Um
- 26:10I have no idea honestly. I would say
- 26:11it's a lot of the same people to be
- 26:12honest with you. I would say Yeah,
- 26:15there's two things that's crazy about
- 26:16Well, there's two things that's crazy
- 26:17about the pump.fun fees. Is one is how
- 26:19high they are, a million a day. And the
- 26:21second thing is how consistent they are.
- 26:23It's like every day a million. It's not
- 26:25like one day there's two and one day
- 26:26there's 300K. It's like every day is
- 26:29consistent. So that's kind of the most
- 26:30shocking thing that I don't understand.
- 26:32Do you know what they're like in their
- 26:34prime how much they were getting a day?
- 26:37I mean the thing is though they just
- 26:38implemented pump swap. So it's like in
- 26:40the in the peak of
- 26:42>> You're right. It was radium.
- 26:43>> So in the peak of the trenches it was
- 26:44radium. So like they made less.
- 26:47Yeah. Um but I'm seeing these numbers on
- 26:49fees.pump.fun if you guys are asking. Um
- 26:52that's kind of a
- 26:53the thing. They're saying you're asking
- 26:54a scammer out Wait.
- 26:56Are you are you related to pump? Do you
- 26:57work for pump?
- 26:58No, I'm I have Axiom badge. Okay, okay.
- 27:01What do you
- 27:01>> I don't really like get anything, but
- 27:03What's the deal with the the terminal
- 27:05beefs right now? Like is is there like
- 27:07any any cuz I I I I feel like it's like
- 27:10Bloods and Crips, bro. I'm not going to
- 27:11lie. I feel like it's like the new
- 27:12Israel-Palestine is is terminal versus
- 27:15Axiom.
- 27:16Dude, I just be doing my own thing to be
- 27:18honest with you. I think
- 27:19like a lot of the good traders are
- 27:20Everyone kind of went to Axiom, you
- 27:22know, in the beginning and then um
- 27:24honestly, I have no idea where the the
- 27:27Axiom terminal
- 27:29beef come from comes from, but I think
- 27:31terminal kind of just started
- 27:33going at Axiom out of nowhere and
- 27:35and
- 27:36like paying people to I would honestly
- 27:38assume a lot of it's just paid fud on
- 27:41on Twitter and stuff like that.
- 27:43Um Got Uh but but in both directions.
- 27:46You think it's in both directions? I
- 27:47don't think Axiom's sitting there
- 27:49fudding terminal at all. I think it's
- 27:50just terminal doing it to Axiom. Hold
- 27:54on, hold on, hold
- 27:55>> [laughter]
- 27:56>> No, I don't want to get like I'm going
- 27:57to get clipped and like by all the
- 27:58terminal badges, bro. I have no part in
- 28:00that stuff.
- 28:01>> Yeah, you know, what I will say is like
- 28:03I've gotten more hate from Axiom badges
- 28:05than than But but I used to work for
- 28:07pump. So maybe it's a unique thing, but
- 28:09um I don't know. Someone said Axiom has
- 28:1280% market share.
- 28:13Why do you prefer Axiom?
- 28:16Um dude, when I mean I could go to
- 28:18terminal, but the UI blows. Isn't it the
- 28:21same exact thing?
- 28:23I I mean I looked at at uh
- 28:26terminal before and the UI didn't look
- 28:28too good. Um Yeah, someone in your chat
- 28:30just said like Apple to Android. It's
- 28:32kind of like that honestly. All right,
- 28:34all right.
- 28:34>> know. Maybe it's a stigma.
- 28:37axiom.axiom.com/sent
- 28:39it, bro. Holy [ __ ] No, no, no. I have
- 28:41no idea. I I would probably make more
- 28:43money going to terminal and stuff like
- 28:44that, but
- 28:45I I have no idea honestly. I've just
- 28:48been on it and I've been on it and I'm
- 28:49just uh not really down to switch. Like
- 28:52whatever.
- 28:53>> Okay, what I will say is I'm sponsored
- 28:54by FOMO and that's who sponsored me. And
- 28:57I think like
- 28:58a world where where meme coins in the
- 29:00trenches aren't a good place to me is a
- 29:03world where FOMO is thriving because
- 29:05people will be willing to put their
- 29:06names behind the coins that they buy and
- 29:09and they'll they'll send a note to
- 29:10everybody and you'll see who's in a coin
- 29:12and everybody wants to hold. I don't
- 29:14know if you've tried FOMO if you have
- 29:15thoughts on it, but
- 29:16>> Um yeah, so I bought Meep. You Do you Do
- 29:19you see the Meep bird or no?
- 29:21It was like a little bird in uh
- 29:23I hadn't seen it. New York that people
- 29:24were flocking to see? Yeah, yeah. And I
- 29:26bought it on FOMO at like 100K and I was
- 29:28just top blasting. I had my main in. I
- 29:29was up like 400 on it Oh, okay.
- 29:32at like 700K. I held it for like five
- 29:34days recently and then it just went kind
- 29:35of went zero and stuff, but that was
- 29:36kind of like my first trade on FOMO. Oh,
- 29:38why'd you why'd you choose to do that
- 29:40one on FOMO instead of uh instead of
- 29:42FOMO? I just thought it was good. So I
- 29:43was like [ __ ] it. I'll just buy on my
- 29:44FOMO at like 150K. I have my main I'm
- 29:46definitely as well or my wallet in and
- 29:48stuff, but uh
- 29:50No, I I think I ended up losing on it on
- 29:51FOMO. I only made like 150 SOL total.
- 29:53>> You dude, you only have 500 followers on
- 29:56FOMO. Are you [ __ ] serious?
- 29:57>> made it. And I don't I don't really use
- 29:59it or anything. I I just followed you
- 30:01and I got the noties on and I think
- 30:04everyone everyone in your chat should be
- 30:05[ __ ] uh following you. So, I just I
- 30:08just showed my ref in chat and everybody
- 30:10go follow Scented. Everybody go follow
- 30:11Scented on FOMO. I'm just saying that.
- 30:13>> With that ref, with that ref. Yeah,
- 30:15yeah, yeah. You heard him. You heard
- 30:17him. Um have you talked to Cupsi?
- 30:20Yeah, I talk to Cupsi all the time. Is
- 30:21there like uh is there like a LeBron
- 30:23moment? Like you know when like Luka
- 30:25went to the Lakers and now it's like
- 30:26LeBron and Luka and you're kind of the
- 30:28Luka, Cupsi's the LeBron. Like do you
- 30:31guys have this like father-son type of
- 30:32relationship? Um you know, I don't
- 30:35really look at it like that. That guy's
- 30:36still like the goat, you know. Uh he's
- 30:39been doing it. He's like shows up all
- 30:40day every day pretty much even though
- 30:41he's [ __ ]
- 30:43[ __ ] probably like 20 mil after tax,
- 30:45you know, or some [ __ ]
- 30:47>> [clears throat]
- 30:47>> Okay.
- 30:48>> really look at it like that, bro.
- 30:50At all. That guy's still the goat, you
- 30:51know. Okay. Okay. I need to get him on
- 30:53stream. Has he spoken on why he's less
- 30:56active in the in the in the trenches
- 30:57lately?
- 30:58I think bro, like why would you want to
- 31:00trench for at SOL 80 bucks when you're
- 31:02basically retired, you know, what I'm
- 31:04saying? Wow. It's like that. Wow.
- 31:07>> well, it's like you sit here all day
- 31:08every day for I mean, I probably make
- 31:10like 15 a day, right? 15 20k a day maybe
- 31:13if that. And then but I'm sitting here
- 31:15blood, sweat, and tears battling it out
- 31:17for
- 31:18probably 14 hours a day, you know. So,
- 31:20if you have that much money and you're
- 31:21basically set for life, like why would
- 31:22you want to sit here all day every day?
- 31:24But he's still on every day all day. You
- 31:26make 15k a day, bro?
- 31:28Uh like somewhere around that. If SOL
- 31:30goes up, it'll probably be more, you
- 31:32know.
- 31:32>> Okay. So, you're you're pushing Cupsi
- 31:34numbers in terms of the daily 100%. Like
- 31:37especially in the market today, you're
- 31:38doing crazy numbers.
- 31:40Um why do you still do it? And what's it
- 31:41going to take for you to retire? Like
- 31:42why do you still play when you're when
- 31:44you're making Ms?
- 31:45Well, the thing is like I I grew up
- 31:47playing Fortnite, right? Like I grew up
- 31:48streaming, grew up playing Fortnite. I
- 31:50was like a like one of the top Fortnite
- 31:52players for so long. So, why would I
- 31:55like I love my computer to be honest
- 31:56with you. I I I just love sitting on my
- 31:58computer uh grinding, you know. And when
- 32:02I kind of have a passion and [ __ ] like
- 32:05you know, you kind of follow that
- 32:05passion and uh
- 32:07just do it, you know. Yeah, yeah. Do you
- 32:10think um
- 32:11do you think that like I've heard this
- 32:13and obviously I I don't [ __ ] trench
- 32:16micro caps enough to know this, but is
- 32:18it true that like
- 32:19>> if every streamer stops streaming, like
- 32:21let's say like DV hops off, you're not
- 32:24live, Prosper turns it off, everybody
- 32:26turns it off, Yeah.
- 32:28>> that the volume dies?
- 32:31Uh well, the thing is like my friends
- 32:32joke. They're like even when I'm not
- 32:34streaming or anything, they're like
- 32:37you are the volume, but it doesn't die
- 32:39at all. I think you just kind of lose
- 32:41like a stream, you know. I'd be down to
- 32:44not stream, you know. I just stream just
- 32:46to stream. Um
- 32:50But yeah, I don't think it like fully
- 32:51dies. Like there's still good coins.
- 32:53People are still buying good coins. If
- 32:54there's a good coin, it's going to go.
- 32:55You don't need a tracked wallet for a
- 32:57good coin to go, you know.
- 32:58Yeah, yeah. It's weird though. It's
- 33:00almost like I think part of the game,
- 33:03part of the meme coin game, and part of
- 33:04the crypto game is seeing all the people
- 33:07that are in a coin and making your
- 33:09decision off that. Like nobody's
- 33:10actually trading the animal, the meme.
- 33:13They're looking at the holders. They're
- 33:15looking at who holds it and they're
- 33:16looking at who can buy it and who can
- 33:18enter. And so this idea that like
- 33:20tracking wallets is inherently evil, I
- 33:22don't agree with.
- 33:23Um Um
- 33:25What do you mean by that?
- 33:26>> Well, like a lot of people say, "Oh,
- 33:27these people just track wallets." It's
- 33:28like, "Bro, like
- 33:30people people want to tail.
- 33:32People want to tail big big KOLs. It's
- 33:36just like human nature and if they're
- 33:38not tailing, then they want to at least
- 33:40have the information of this person's
- 33:42in, that person's in, but that person
- 33:44isn't in, so I'm going to buy. It's part
- 33:46of the game.
- 33:49>> I mean, yeah, it is part of the game,
- 33:50but I mean I I think streaming in is the
- 33:54most broken in a sense where
- 33:57um sometimes there will be a coin,
- 33:59right? Where the narrative isn't clear.
- 34:03And I mean, with some coins
- 34:05you
- 34:07almost like a narrative is made for a
- 34:08coin, you know? Like some people might
- 34:10not understand the narrative, but if
- 34:11you're streaming, let's say, and you're
- 34:13one of the larger streamers, you're
- 34:15almost able to
- 34:17push the narrative onto more people, you
- 34:19know, what I mean? So, I think that and
- 34:21and make a clear narrative where the
- 34:23people that don't understand are able to
- 34:25it kind of clicks in their head, you
- 34:26know, what I mean? Got it. Okay. Okay.
- 34:29So, when they don't understand the
- 34:31narrative, they kind of understand the
- 34:32narrative. Well, this is kind of like
- 34:34it's kind of like the difference between
- 34:35like y'all are different from like a
- 34:37Trader Pow. Like to me, Trader Pow is
- 34:39helping people understand narratives.
- 34:42Um I don't know if that's your guys's
- 34:44thing. You guys are just kind of like
- 34:45first TX [ __ ] Fortnite builds,
- 34:48[ __ ] spamming spamming like what's it
- 34:50called in Fortnite? The when you when
- 34:52you edit like edits and [ __ ] like that.
- 34:53Like
- 34:54>> Yeah. Yeah, like ripping 90s editing and
- 34:56all that. Yeah, like I don't feel like
- 34:57you guys are narrative people, right?
- 34:59Well, the thing I think every coin has a
- 35:01narrative. Like I think literally every
- 35:03coin has a narrative and when you buy a
- 35:05coin, your initial thought is like how
- 35:08viral is this? What's the narrative? How
- 35:11high can the narrative go? How crazy is
- 35:13the narrative? Um and you're trading it
- 35:16based on how good you think the
- 35:18narrative is. Like you're literally
- 35:19trading each coin based on
- 35:22how good the narrative is, you know,
- 35:24what I mean? Okay.
- 35:26But I I almost I almost wish like Have
- 35:28you ever thought about like what if I
- 35:30just chose a coin and decided to bull
- 35:33post it and try to bull post it to 50
- 35:35mil? Like is that in your heart? Is that
- 35:38in your soul at all?
- 35:39So, I mean, with the
- 35:43the I I don't think I have that like
- 35:45pull or anything, you know. If I bull
- 35:47post post a coin, I don't really give a
- 35:49[ __ ] Like I'll I'll like debit tweet on
- 35:51my Flipsky Twitter, my shitty Twitter.
- 35:54And like I don't I don't really care,
- 35:56you know, what I mean? But no one's ever
- 35:58going to listen to me Well, people will,
- 36:00but if if it's not a good narrative,
- 36:02people don't buy anymore. Like no one
- 36:03wants to buy
- 36:05uh a cat like a dog in a vest, you know,
- 36:08what I mean? When Pow bought dog in vest
- 36:10and it went like 10 mil or 12 mil or
- 36:12higher, you know, what I mean?
- 36:14Um
- 36:15What about like Syop What about like
- 36:17Syop anime? That's like a classic Pow
- 36:19coin recently. Yeah.
- 36:21>> Like are you just you just don't want to
- 36:22buy it? Like you you just don't have
- 36:23interest in it?
- 36:25Well, maybe at like like are you talking
- 36:27about like now? Like buying it now or
- 36:28buying it when Elon posted it and stuff
- 36:31like that?
- 36:31>> maybe now. Like maybe now if you were
- 36:33buying it and you're saying, "I like
- 36:34this account." Like You know, what I
- 36:36mean? Yeah, I like the account, but like
- 36:37what's the next catalyst of Syop anime?
- 36:41But when I look at a meme coin like
- 36:43that, I'm like, "Oh, this is going to
- 36:43bleed out to zero. There's no point in
- 36:45me buying it." Unless Elon interacts or
- 36:48anything like that. Like you're trading
- 36:50nowadays from what I see, you're trading
- 36:52I wasn't around to trade
- 36:54um
- 36:56uh animals and stuff like that. And not
- 36:58like not necessarily slop, but you're
- 37:00trading how viral it's going to go, you
- 37:02know, what I mean? Um
- 37:04I'm not going to sit there and buy Syop
- 37:06anime, throw 100 200 SOL in it Syop
- 37:08anime and pray it goes up. Like there's
- 37:09no basis that it could go up. Like
- 37:12there's no
- 37:14guaranteed reason that it's going to go
- 37:15up if that makes sense. Yeah, I know.
- 37:17It's tough. I mean I mean, people like
- 37:18look at catalysts and they say, "I'll
- 37:20buy it when Elon hasn't reacted in a
- 37:22while and I'll hope that Elon reacts and
- 37:23then sell into that." It's kind of like
- 37:25So, that's that's also a catalyst. Like
- 37:27if you're sitting there trading, like
- 37:29that's also another strategy, right?
- 37:30>> Yeah.
- 37:31So, I mean, that's just like a different
- 37:33style. Like I'm not going to front run
- 37:34Elon's reply because he hasn't
- 37:36interacted in a while, but some people
- 37:38might do that, you know.
- 37:40Yeah. Do you think it's like meme coins
- 37:41are just down only? Like like like
- 37:44Yeah.
- 37:45>> Uh
- 37:45you think But I'm saying like do you
- 37:47think that meme coins in general can
- 37:48come back and have higher ceilings or
- 37:50like
- 37:51is there going to be a completely new
- 37:52game next cycle?
- 37:54Well, I kind of like Do you think all
- 37:56these kids that got on boarded that are
- 37:57just the serial terrorists of the
- 37:59trenches like aren't going to rotate
- 38:01like So, say there's another NFT or
- 38:03something like that. So, when NFTs meme
- 38:05coins, say there's I I don't even know
- 38:07what to give in as an example, but you
- 38:10think Do you think I would assume all
- 38:12these people that are making
- 38:13generational wealth and have kind of
- 38:14seen and been exposed to how easy it is
- 38:16to make money in crypto are just going
- 38:18to rotate to the next thing and these
- 38:20not necessarily old heads, but people
- 38:23who aren't willing to put in a lot of
- 38:24effort are just going to get destroyed.
- 38:26So, I see kind of the whole ecosystem as
- 38:29a whole going
- 38:31down and I don't see any catalyst in
- 38:33buying
- 38:34um these meme coins that ran way back.
- 38:37Like I don't I don't I personally can't
- 38:39grasp why they would run again if that
- 38:41makes sense. Yeah.
- 38:43Yeah, it's
- 38:45So, wow. So, you're not bullish on the
- 38:47eco. You're not you you just
- 38:48>> are your thoughts on the ecosystem? Like
- 38:50it would take mass change from the
- 38:53people, top wallets,
- 38:55um trading terminals. It's devs. Like
- 38:59you would have to limit dev supply. You
- 39:01would have to limit everything. Yeah.
- 39:03>> Um When you buy a Twitter play, you're
- 39:05buying into a 30% dev most of the time
- 39:07and the and the the dev is extracting
- 39:10200 SOL at a 100 130k, you know? So,
- 39:13it's like
- 39:13>> Wow.
- 39:14It's so like and then that liquidity's
- 39:16never being put back into the market,
- 39:18you know, what I mean? Um so, there's
- 39:20constant liquidity just being taken
- 39:22taken taken taken. And And no, I'm not
- 39:25dissing anyone. Like like there's some
- 39:27devs that are like gods.
- 39:29Um but it would take massive change from
- 39:31literally every single party involved in
- 39:34everything to uh
- 39:36change anything and affect the trenches
- 39:38in a positive way, you know. Yeah. Ask
- 39:41about BWA.
- 39:43BWA is like the best dev on chain. Like
- 39:46he's got it. Is that the end of his the
- 39:49end of his wallet is BWA? No, the first
- 39:51three first three.
- 39:52>> three okay.
- 39:53>> So, he always gets everything right.
- 39:55He's out with 30% on tweet plays almost
- 39:58every tweet play he's making two 300
- 40:00soul on god coins. He's got the best
- 40:03scraper. He's like a manual god. I have
- 40:07no idea the guy is just a goat like a
- 40:09genuine goat.
- 40:11What the [ __ ] just happened?
- 40:13>> would some people would see what he does
- 40:14as like scummy as [ __ ] you know. Holy
- 40:17[ __ ] Wait, actually he makes that much
- 40:19money. Do you think it's a bot or a real
- 40:20person? He's got both. So, he's the
- 40:23fastest scraper and then he's probably
- 40:24one of the smartest individuals on chain
- 40:28and super fast manually. Wow. And how
- 40:31much is it how much is BWA made?
- 40:34Dude, I've I've heard he's got like 55
- 40:3760,000 souls staked. Woah.
- 40:39>> Since like since like 200.
- 40:42>> Is that 50 million dollars?
- 40:43>> 230.
- 40:44He's got a lot of money, bro. That's
- 40:46>> No no no no. How much is that? My brain
- 40:48can't [ __ ] Let's do 60,000. Let's say
- 40:51he's 60,000.
- 40:53But like he would probably be up so much
- 40:54more at
- 40:55>> So, is he is he making money on
- 40:57on supply selling supply or is he making
- 41:00money on fees? No supply yeah. Selling
- 41:02supply okay. Wow.
- 41:03>> So, he also learned how to bundle
- 41:05recently a little better as well. So,
- 41:06he's putting wallets in making his
- 41:07charts look a little real off the start
- 41:09if no one buys.
- 41:10Um
- 41:12But yeah, the guy is god. He's literal
- 41:13god. And people don't hate on him
- 41:15because like what he does is so
- 41:16skillful, you know. Okay. Yo mods, what
- 41:19the [ __ ] are you doing mods? What the
- 41:21[ __ ] are you doing?
- 41:22Mods, are you [ __ ] [ __ ] Russo
- 41:24Elliot [ __ ] all of you guys lock the
- 41:26[ __ ] in. Are you guys [ __ ] [ __ ]
- 41:28Holy [ __ ] you guys are [ __ ] inbreds.
- 41:31Mods, do something you [ __ ] retards.
- 41:35Are you [ __ ] [ __ ] bro? We got
- 41:37500 [ __ ] in this [ __ ]
- 41:39chat. I don't have a single [ __ ] mod.
- 41:40Are you guys inbreds?
- 41:42Holy shits. Poor mods, bro.
- 41:45>> Jesus.
- 41:46>> [laughter]
- 41:46[gasps]
- 41:47>> The [ __ ]
- 41:50Oh my god.
- 41:50>> have no idea how to limit that. You got
- 41:52to go like follower only mode.
- 41:53>> Yeah, I know I know. Give me a sec, bro.
- 41:55[ __ ] No, you're good. No rush. Okay,
- 41:57wait. But if you want to think about it,
- 41:58I'm going to ask chat if they could
- 42:00[ __ ]
- 42:01I don't even know how to do follower
- 42:02only mode.
- 42:05Bro, oh my god.
- 42:08Followers only chat.
- 42:09>> a question, bro?
- 42:11Yeah.
- 42:12What do you what do you do on your
- 42:14day-to-day life? Like now like were you
- 42:16deep in the trenches when you first
- 42:17started and stuff or were you like a
- 42:19hodler buy on and hoddle type thing? I
- 42:23you know, there was a there's been
- 42:24multi-month stretches where I was deep
- 42:26in the trenches 100%. But now I'm I'm
- 42:29focused on um
- 42:30either narrative trading like when AI
- 42:33coins were crazy on base. That was fun.
- 42:36Banker all these things. That was fun.
- 42:39And then
- 42:40and then perps. Like I'm really
- 42:42monitoring I'm really monitoring these
- 42:44situations, bro. That's the thing like
- 42:46I made an oil trade on stream today
- 42:48because we were we were monitoring the
- 42:49Iranian WhatsApp group chats
- 42:53and and they're like we hear bombs and
- 42:54so we [ __ ] longed oil like [ __ ] like
- 42:56that.
- 42:57Yeah. Yeah fair enough. That's cool
- 42:59though. Yeah yeah Do you see yourself
- 43:01getting deep in the trenches again or
- 43:03not really? Of course of course. I mean
- 43:05but the thing is though is like it's
- 43:08I'm going to get wrecked cuz all you
- 43:09guys are so much better at it and I
- 43:12don't I don't love trading on stream. I
- 43:13used to trade on stream but I would like
- 43:16I wouldn't like actually trade like I
- 43:17would sit at my computer
- 43:20>> Bro, I used to trade on stream and I'd
- 43:21be at my computer for 4 hours and I'd
- 43:23buy like one or two coins. Like I would
- 43:26just watch. I would narrate. Yeah, it's
- 43:28like I just don't like it. Fair enough.
- 43:31What's your favorite meta and what like
- 43:33out of all of them?
- 43:35Dude, I just love when there's volume
- 43:38honestly. I just love when there's
- 43:39volume. I make so much money when
- 43:41there's volume cuz I think I'm
- 43:43pretty quick
- 43:44with everything. I just like when
- 43:45there's volume doesn't matter the meta,
- 43:46you know.
- 43:47So, you liked base you liked base when
- 43:49it was hot. I didn't even grind base
- 43:51like that to be honest with you. Why'd
- 43:53you not do that?
- 43:54>> Honestly, I was just lazy, dude. I was
- 43:56just lazy and I shouldn't have been but
- 43:58I mean
- 43:59I should just
- 44:01Like I did BNB when it was hot and
- 44:02everything like that. I just didn't do
- 44:03base for some reason kind of stupid to
- 44:05be honest with you. Like when I hear
- 44:07about base I just think I'm late, you
- 44:08know, and then you you don't expect it
- 44:11to survive. So, kind of when peace
- 44:12happened I didn't expect it to survive
- 44:13and then I was I I kept telling myself I
- 44:16was late and I didn't want to get
- 44:18just bridge over and stuff like that but
- 44:20kind of just stupid to be honest with
- 44:21you. Do you think someone could join and
- 44:24start with five soul and be profitable
- 44:26or is it just super cooked? Like would
- 44:27you not recommend it?
- 44:29I think you have to do a lot of
- 44:31research. I think if you're smart and
- 44:32you put the time in, you know, and you
- 44:34really work hard you can
- 44:36still make a good amount of money. But I
- 44:38think it's it's come to a point where
- 44:40you need a full setup. You need you need
- 44:42everything. You need to lock in. You
- 44:43have to have a Twitter monitor. You have
- 44:44to have everything and you have to kind
- 44:46of really take the time to learn about
- 44:48what coins can go, you know. Got it got
- 44:50it. Okay. Okay. Um
- 44:53Chat, I'm looking at you if you want to
- 44:55if you want to talk. Someone said you
- 44:56can only make money if you stream. That
- 44:58I mean that that might be true but it
- 44:59might only be profitable if your
- 45:00wallet's tracked, right? Like that's
- 45:01possible.
- 45:03That's uh
- 45:05He's a troll.
- 45:06>> [laughter]
- 45:06>> Okay.
- 45:08That's T Milky.
- 45:10Okay okay. Who do you who do you think
- 45:11are the three best streamers for for
- 45:13trenching?
- 45:15Um
- 45:18Dude, for trenching
- 45:20honestly I don't know, bro.
- 45:23There's
- 45:24uh
- 45:27DB's obviously good.
- 45:30Like he's pretty solid.
- 45:31And then I would say
- 45:34uh
- 45:35Loupier just cuz of the way he trades. I
- 45:37think Loupier is is he plays ethical
- 45:40hoops.
- 45:41I I completely agree. I think that is
- 45:43the one person that I would kind of give
- 45:45it to that is
- 45:47going live and
- 45:50um
- 45:52you know, not
- 45:53farming low cap coins. Like he's not
- 45:55first DXN coins, I guess, you know. He
- 45:57is playing ethical hoops like what you
- 45:59said.
- 46:00And
- 46:02um
- 46:03That's kind of honestly the only person
- 46:04I'd give it to. Wow.
- 46:06>> That is Well, just in the sense where
- 46:08everyone everyone's learned how to like
- 46:10farm these low caps or buy these low
- 46:11caps and buy
- 46:13uh good coins low, right? But
- 46:18honestly I don't know. I'm not firing
- 46:20shots at anyone cuz I do the same [ __ ]
- 46:21sometimes. Um
- 46:23But I the only one playing necessarily
- 46:25ethical hoops like Xander and and
- 46:27Loupier. Wow. So, you don't even think
- 46:29yourself is included in that.
- 46:31Well, I mean if you consider me buying
- 46:33low but like I do the same [ __ ] off
- 46:34stream and it works exact same, you
- 46:36know. What about the dude?
- 46:38The dude doesn't even [ __ ] stream
- 46:40anymore, bro. Dude is a lazy bum lately.
- 46:42Damn.
- 46:43>> [laughter]
- 46:43>> No, I don't even mean that in shots. I'm
- 46:45I'm friends with dude.
- 46:47Dude dude is a grinder. He's doing other
- 46:49stuff but dude
- 46:51uh
- 46:52He's he's funny, bro. He's a he's a good
- 46:54guy for sure. Got it. Okay. How do you
- 46:57get so bro this is one of the craziest
- 46:58things. All these streamers get a
- 47:00thousand viewers and I don't even how do
- 47:02you guys get so many viewers like?
- 47:05Um
- 47:07Dude, I don't know. I started streaming
- 47:09cuz um
- 47:11uh
- 47:12[ __ ] I don't even know. I was wondering
- 47:14in the beginning um how this was going
- 47:16to go, right? Like I wasn't sure how it
- 47:18was going to go. So, I was like I had a
- 47:20gambling deal before
- 47:22uh and I kind of rotated out of the
- 47:23gambling deal. I was just shuffle cuz I
- 47:24was like in between Fortnite and stuff
- 47:26with hand problems and I was doing
- 47:28vlogs. I did vlogs all over my YouTube
- 47:30and then I was streaming and
- 47:33um
- 47:34I don't know. I've kind of just ever
- 47:36since I got a little better I would just
- 47:37get more viewers, you know. And I do
- 47:39that's why I don't stream every day. I
- 47:40still
- 47:42am off stream cooking some days
- 47:45just to like make sure I don't eat my
- 47:47stream and stuff and I honestly prefer
- 47:49it a lot of the time.
- 47:51Got it got it. Okay. Okay. Um you know
- 47:54what I think it is is I think people
- 47:55watch it cuz they want to trench and
- 47:57like they want to watch you while
- 47:59they're doing it so that they don't like
- 48:02like they don't miss a coin [ __ ] like
- 48:03that. That's my impression.
- 48:04>> Yeah. Yeah, no I agree or it's like
- 48:06background info or anything like that,
- 48:08you know. You get info you get you get
- 48:10info. You shouldn't copy trade on
- 48:12off of info cuz often times you're late
- 48:13though, right? But I mean it could be
- 48:15for comms. It could be for anything, you
- 48:16know. Right. It could be for just
- 48:19listening. A lot of solo traders any
- 48:21anything. Yeah. Right right. Are you in
- 48:24a FNF?
- 48:26I trade I I started trading with like
- 48:28Fortnite friends that weren't we were
- 48:30never like crazy in the start and now I
- 48:31still kind of just trade with my IRLs
- 48:33and Fortnite friends. But I kind of I'm
- 48:35in a bunch of discords and everything
- 48:36like that uh
- 48:38but it's just my kind of friend group.
- 48:40Do you have any goals as a creator
- 48:42anymore like like someone said vlogging
- 48:44like do you do you want to be back in
- 48:45the in the social media [ __ ] ever or
- 48:47not?
- 48:48Um
- 48:51Dude, I don't know. I think I kind of
- 48:54had my time in social media where I was
- 48:55kind of Like I used to get like over a
- 48:57thousand viewers streaming Fortnite a
- 48:58lot of the time.
- 49:01And then I did vlogs and a bunch of them
- 49:03got a bunch of views and stuff and I
- 49:05lived in a content house with my work
- 49:07and everything like that. Uh like Peter
- 49:09Bot Bucky, you know them? Like I lived
- 49:11with them. We did content. Did you teach
- 49:13him how to say it?
- 49:15Yeah, no I didn't teach him but
- 49:17unfortunately I am not a good influence
- 49:20for sure when it comes to that stuff.
- 49:22>> Yeah yeah. I mean I didn't teach him
- 49:24obviously but I'm also [snorts] not a
- 49:26good influence. So,
- 49:28um Wow.
- 49:29>> Yeah, no I don't really have any content
- 49:31ambitions and stuff like that right now
- 49:34but uh
- 49:35just chill and and grind, you know?
- 49:38Wow.
- 49:39Well, I think we had a good convo. I
- 49:41don't want to go too long, but this was
- 49:42great.
- 49:42>> No, you're good. Thank you Thank you,
- 49:44bro, for having me on. I hope I kind of
- 49:46give you a little bit of a different
- 49:47perspective of everything. I I know um
- 49:49you probably see a lot of [ __ ] or
- 49:51not [ __ ] or a lot of [ __ ] about me
- 49:52on Twitter.
- 49:53I actually don't see that much about
- 49:55you. I see more about like other people,
- 49:56but not you. I don't know. Really?
- 49:59Yeah.
- 49:59>> kind of nice, you know? I try to I try
- 50:01to kind of especially when I'm streaming
- 50:03stay a little bit, you know, not on the
- 50:04farmy side or anything, but off stream
- 50:06it's
- 50:07uh you know, a little different, but
- 50:09yeah. No, thank you for having me on,
- 50:11bro. I appreciate it. Yeah, they want to
- 50:12know about GRX. They're spamming GRX
- 50:14GRX.
- 50:14>> Oh, GRX is like just a god, bro. Like
- 50:16that's just like one of the best
- 50:17traders.
- 50:18Um kind of a new gen trader, kind of
- 50:21started when I
- 50:22um started trading and stuff. Uh just
- 50:25like a new gen, just like the best
- 50:27trader uh honestly like of all time, but
- 50:30like
- 50:31it
- 50:32you probably don't even know who he is.
- 50:33Like just just straight god. Like when
- 50:35BNB was hot, he made over 2 mil in a
- 50:37month. Um
- 50:39Oh, okay. Yes, I remember this. Yes,
- 50:41yes, yes. He's just straight up like
- 50:43just the best trader. Doesn't even use
- 50:45his wallet anymore. I don't know I
- 50:46honestly I don't know what he's doing.
- 50:47He's more so tapped into perps and [ __ ]
- 50:49like that right now, but just
- 50:50>> remember this. Yeah. Like when he locks
- 50:52in, he's like the best trader ever.
- 50:54That's all I That's all I can say about
- 50:56GRX, to be honest.
- 50:57>> No, that's great. Okay, wait. I got to I
- 50:58got to go, but good talking. We're going
- 51:00to get this on YouTube. Elliot, make
- 51:02sure this is on YouTube. Um everybody
- 51:03stick around for a second. I'm going to
- 51:04I'm going to crash out on my team. But
- 51:06thank you for joining, bro. Nice to meet
- 51:07you.
- 51:08Yeah, back. Good to meet you, bro.
- 51:09Thanks for that.
- 51:09>> All right. Peace.
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