Cathryn Mellender- Chandler Halderson's Girlfriend- Part One Interview — Transcript
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- 0:02one two three
- 0:06okay oh there's a Pooh Bear all right
- 0:09you can play with it
- 0:11don't twist my arm all right
- 0:15oh
- 0:17it's right over there if you wanna
- 0:19I can grab it okay I want to hit you
- 0:21with the Pooh bear oh please don't thank
- 0:23you
- 2:23foreign
- 3:21foreign
- 3:51oh
- 6:15account
- 6:54hmm
- 7:30how's it going I'm just gonna give you
- 7:32an extra one of these okay okay thank
- 7:33you yep
- 7:34thank you
- 8:41thank you
- 8:57sorry
- 10:24foreign
- 11:46oh
- 11:56foreign
- 12:00good
- 13:11foreign
- 14:33foreign
- 15:39like look at this
- 15:43that was the one like in the 90s so I
- 15:45don't know but like I thought this was
- 15:4770s
- 15:55for kids and
- 15:56stuff you know keep it kind of colorful
- 16:00I need to be more colorful than us
- 16:04this looks like it was around when my
- 16:05grandpa was around oh yeah right that's
- 16:07exactly
- 16:23Chandler's parents their colors were
- 16:25like green I think but it's okay
- 16:27it's my chance of my dream is probably
- 16:30like that blue green you know like the
- 16:33velvety green yeah it was also my mom's
- 16:35wearing colors too
- 16:36all I have left for my plates I need
- 16:38them all the way to me
- 16:40because they can shoot the cow s but I
- 16:41just had like
- 16:56three
- 17:02hmm
- 17:05color any color you can have is a
- 17:07different shade of weight
- 17:09and so you know
- 17:21I was using Pooh bear as a pillow for a
- 17:23while yeah
- 17:24are they just talking to Chandler first
- 17:26or something I don't know
- 17:31hope his parents are okay wait
- 17:35like his mom's like
- 17:40about it every Chandler only tells me
- 17:42things but like
- 17:44yeah
- 17:46when we were there we were like fingers
- 17:48crossed we're just at the casino blowing
- 17:49money having fun living life
- 17:52oh yeah that would be nice
- 17:56the other night the other night and got
- 17:58like 600 her and her fiance did they go
- 18:01with one here like oceans
- 18:05oh no there's a whole chunk right
- 18:06outside
- 18:15my mom one-on-one machine twice I think
- 18:17same one yeah
- 18:58foreign
- 20:28foreign
- 21:15foreign
- 21:38foreign
- 22:40hello how are you very tired how are you
- 22:43hi so this is George he's one of my
- 22:46partners hi Anthony the one that you
- 22:48spoke with me yesterday he's off today
- 22:50so you get George
- 22:52I don't know if you're hungry about your
- 22:53two cookies is there
- 22:55one has chocolate one doesn't okay
- 22:58are you really if I eat it I'll just
- 22:59projectile vomit oh please don't there's
- 23:02a there's like I'm too emotional and
- 23:04also moment so I think I know one
- 23:06sprinkles but you know what I can put
- 23:07them here if you want it you want it
- 23:08that one has chocolate this one this one
- 23:11oh I was like uh
- 23:17oh and then here's your phone oh because
- 23:19yesterday it was just so fabulous with
- 23:22all of your time stamps on Instagram or
- 23:24um Snapchat so
- 23:28there you go
- 23:31how was work
- 23:33I was there for 30 minutes and then
- 23:35literally you can go oh how come
- 23:39I'm a very emotional person you
- 23:42always worried so I like cried a little
- 23:43bit like when someone walks with me like
- 23:45hey are you okay I'm like
- 23:49and then like I talked to my pharmacist
- 23:51and she was
- 23:54if you put some groceries took it to
- 23:55Chandler and cooked him some food
- 23:57because he wasn't eating well
- 23:59oh how come
- 24:02America's got his parents
- 24:05okay I can't eat well when I'm nervous
- 24:07so okay
- 24:09nibble with the cookie baby steps I'm
- 24:12sure there's some chocolate in there
- 24:13yeah make sure the police aren't trying
- 24:16to poison me
- 24:17no we're not
- 24:20I don't want to be just warnings
- 24:24have you heard anything about his
- 24:26parents
- 24:27no did you know if his brother made us a
- 24:30cabin yet I don't know no he's on his
- 24:32way up
- 24:34called me when I was in the car okay how
- 24:37are you guys going up there no
- 24:39um in the car of like the Lisa's car oh
- 24:42yeah yeah because they're hoping they
- 24:44could uh make sure the garage door like
- 24:47to get into the house was unlocked so
- 24:49people can be with a dog
- 24:51because I thought just Chandler would
- 24:52come down here if they needed so I was
- 24:54there to watch them
- 24:55how is he supposed to get to the cabin
- 24:56you know
- 24:58um he left her in like
- 24:59a little after two I believe and I think
- 25:02it's around a four hour drive
- 25:05okay five or six yeah
- 25:08you don't want you guys to go with or uh
- 25:11all the dogs yeah
- 25:14the dog and his fiancee was going with
- 25:16him so
- 25:17my mom has the same shoes
- 25:19clothes
- 25:20yeah they're super comfy uh
- 25:25because they're nice well yesterday I
- 25:27was wearing my tennis shoes and then I
- 25:28was like these are actually more comfy
- 25:29so
- 25:31I just don't know what today will bring
- 25:32so
- 25:36so
- 25:37some of it is going to be repeat I just
- 25:39want to make sure that I'm really
- 25:41understanding
- 25:42everything so again give me your
- 25:45timeline from Thursday
- 25:49I worked um
- 25:51that's when Chandler told me I think it
- 25:53was Thursday that his parents were going
- 25:55on up to the cabin
- 25:58um with some friends so he was going to
- 26:00be at the house with the dogs by himself
- 26:01all weekend
- 26:04um
- 26:06went to sleep woke up
- 26:08got ready for work went to work
- 26:11um
- 26:13I we planned that I was gonna go over
- 26:15there
- 26:16and spend the night
- 26:18um just hang out with him and the dogs
- 26:21because you know there's fireworks and
- 26:22Rizzo's very scared of dogs and so dogs
- 26:26okay fireworks yeah
- 26:30um
- 26:33but before that I had to stop at two
- 26:36different targets
- 26:38to do some grocery pickups unless it was
- 26:40Friday yeah
- 26:42um I stopped at Hilldale
- 26:45my apartment
- 26:47then I went to I don't know what time
- 26:50you stopped your whole deal
- 26:53got off at 5
- 26:5930. yeah anytime traffic and stuff yeah
- 27:06store away
- 27:08um
- 27:10um
- 27:12then I went to my apartment grabbed
- 27:14clothes and then I grabbed a bunch so I
- 27:16could do dirty laundry at my mom's house
- 27:18because
- 27:19it would be fun
- 27:23would be some um
- 27:26East Target went to my mom's house
- 27:30so do you not live with your mom
- 27:33what apartment oh I didn't know that I
- 27:36mentioned it yesterday the chef vlogger
- 27:38no that's my mom's house okay so then
- 27:41what is your address
- 27:43um
- 27:45110 North Bedford Street it's called
- 27:48Lark at Cole it's only like a tablet
- 27:50from
- 27:53April to July 29th so I won't be there
- 27:56longer I'm just gonna go back to my
- 27:57mom's place clear department number or
- 27:59that one uh 321.
- 28:01here
- 28:03all my roommates are on the basketball
- 28:05team for UW in a way yeah uh lovisa
- 28:10Lexi and Tara lovisa is from Sweden and
- 28:14she is 6'3
- 28:16how do you get out of those girls
- 28:18you know anyone what's up what just got
- 28:20lucky yeah that's cool the girls have a
- 28:23lot from played for the tennis team I
- 28:25used to play tennis tonight
- 28:27that's how we connected
- 28:32I'm sorry you said you went to East
- 28:33Target that you went from Hilldale East
- 28:34Target
- 28:36no from Hilldale to apartment to grab
- 28:38dirty clothes and clothes
- 28:41to East to my mom's house
- 28:44to grab the
- 28:47hydrogen peroxide and the Swiffer
- 28:49because Chandler broke the glass of the
- 28:52fireplace that day and cut his toe so he
- 28:54had wanted to clean that and then clean
- 28:56up the glass and blood
- 28:59oh no no
- 29:03we had burgers for dinner because you
- 29:04made me burgers because he burned his
- 29:06hands on the grill
- 29:09Dale apartment to get dirty clothes to
- 29:13use Target to get the Swiffer no no I'm
- 29:15supposed to get this with her mom's
- 29:16gonna get this way first then then East
- 29:24third attack
- 29:28um
- 29:31so then to Chandler's
- 29:34and then
- 29:36I was there and then I left
- 29:39in the morning because he wanted to do
- 29:41chores and then
- 29:43I know what time I around what time I
- 29:45was home
- 29:46it's a picture
- 29:48do you know what the chores were
- 29:50like what does that mean chores like his
- 29:52family usually gives him a housework
- 29:54like
- 29:55you know the grass outside the front of
- 29:56this house usually has to take that to
- 29:58the dump
- 30:00um probably
- 30:01make sure all the remaining glasses up
- 30:04you know do his laundry do you know
- 30:07where did he go to the dump
- 30:09I think he said he went but it was
- 30:10closed or that they were just closed I
- 30:13don't know if he
- 30:16and then
- 30:22so on your um Snapchat do you manually
- 30:26enter your location or is it just
- 30:28through your whenever you open SnapChat
- 30:30it has your location
- 30:33unless you turn it off okay
- 30:35and so Alan Saturday
- 30:39I was with my dog at 8 53 A.M
- 30:44so did you see
- 30:46um the fireplace
- 30:47what did it look like
- 30:52it's broken it was like one pain I think
- 30:56left side
- 31:02um
- 31:05and did you see like the blood in the
- 31:07glass was that all picked up it was
- 31:10pretty much all picked up except like a
- 31:11little bit of glass was still there
- 31:13um
- 31:14honestly I didn't see like a lot of
- 31:16blood but
- 31:18probably because
- 31:20it was only a cut on his big toe okay
- 31:25who was by the fireplace I assume the
- 31:27blood was by the fireplace
- 31:29I think so and I like see it you know oh
- 31:33you didn't see the blood no oh okay
- 31:40where do you like go in the house
- 31:44like where do you normally like hang out
- 31:46with Chandler
- 31:48all the floors like his bedroom that
- 31:50night we were mostly just in the living
- 31:51room
- 31:52so there the bathroom
- 31:55to the kitchen
- 31:58second living room his room
- 32:02like I just don't go over his parents
- 32:04remember the spare bedroom
- 32:06and I think
- 32:08Friday night
- 32:12you know I didn't shower Friday night I
- 32:14showered
- 32:18so Friday night dinner
- 32:20slept in the couches
- 32:23so we could be with the dogs
- 32:27woke up went to my mom's house to be
- 32:28with my dogs and because they do the
- 32:30chores
- 32:31came over around like
- 32:34lunch ish time like noon I believe
- 32:3811 noon time
- 32:41um
- 32:44we hung out watched Daybreak on Netflix
- 32:47because we started that Friday night
- 32:49watched it
- 32:51then he left around like
- 32:54before five so maybe like
- 32:59boom
- 33:01wait three almost four took before five
- 33:05like
- 33:08um no
- 33:10I straighten my hair
- 33:13my takes about 20 minutes
- 33:15Chandler was gone I also did my eyebrows
- 33:18so that's about another 10 minutes the
- 33:21eyeliner and everything
- 33:23I'd be like
- 33:25420 at the latest that's probably when
- 33:26you left
- 33:29and Sunday Saturday
- 33:33so you were getting ready at your house
- 33:35because we went out with rose remember
- 33:37Rose and my brother well we as in me and
- 33:40my brother went with Rose Chandler was
- 33:42saddest house
- 33:44um
- 33:44so did you guys meet up at your house or
- 33:46mom's house my mom's house okay okay
- 33:48when I say our house I need my mom's
- 33:50house okay I just wanted to make sure
- 33:53um
- 33:56and then Rose got there around five and
- 33:58then we went
- 33:59it's not really like relevant to the
- 34:01story but like we went got sent you
- 34:03downtown
- 34:03to
- 34:05to strong on the score
- 34:07close we walked down to Ian's went from
- 34:09Ian's to the
- 34:12fireworks show I have the picture of my
- 34:13ticket I'm trying to remember the name
- 34:15of it
- 34:17I was at the one at um business
- 34:20the foods lights at the isthmus
- 34:25being ticket
- 34:26how was it
- 34:30it was like a 20-minute show they they
- 34:32said it was supposed to start at 8 30.
- 34:34we sat there till like 9 30 9 45 before
- 34:37it went off I heard it was lame yeah sat
- 34:40there like I feel like my butt still
- 34:43bruised because we sat there on like
- 34:467 35
- 34:49he sat there for like two hours
- 34:51um bleachers not fun
- 34:53then we went home
- 34:56woke up
- 34:59um Rose and I went to Starbucks and
- 35:02Panera to pick up bagels and coffee
- 35:05um
- 35:06Sunday now
- 35:08a home went to Mom's your mom's yes okay
- 35:13um
- 35:17slept there yes okay
- 35:19oh
- 35:22um
- 35:23so
- 35:25in the morning for like Starbucks or
- 35:27like the fireworks show the whole
- 35:29shebang so okay so Friday what were you
- 35:32driving Friday my red Subaru which is
- 35:34under my mom's name Dolce Islander
- 35:38you know the um plates
- 35:44v-e-r
- 35:50I don't know the numbers okay I know
- 35:51it's b-e-r but if you look inside you
- 35:54can see dog toys on the like
- 35:56Jewels thing
- 35:58for my dogs but
- 36:01um so that and then when it was like
- 36:04going downtown to get sencha it was
- 36:08um my brother's car which is a
- 36:11Mazda black
- 36:16I don't know his plate numbers
- 36:20and then
- 36:23when we went to get Starbucks and then
- 36:25the Panera my Subaru again red Subaru
- 36:28Forester 2012.
- 36:38that was Sunday right that you went to
- 36:41get to Starbucks and Panera
- 36:44what time do you think that was at
- 36:47warning
- 36:49I think you might have a screenshot of
- 36:50my receipt
- 36:54I went to a Starbucks once and then they
- 36:56said they never got my order I didn't
- 36:58have like the receipt so
- 37:03um
- 37:04what um Starbucks did you go to
- 37:06East Side one the one by the East Town
- 37:08Mall okay
- 37:12I had Stars so it was free
- 37:16they stopped doing the birthday ones did
- 37:18they that's evil so my order for Panera
- 37:21was ready at 9 43 of the time set in the
- 37:24corner says 9 33 A.M
- 37:28cool
- 37:33um
- 37:35and then
- 37:37we went back
- 37:39hung out like had breakfast
- 37:42Chandler got there around like
- 37:50Maybe
- 37:52the area between 12 and one ish because
- 37:57I remember
- 37:59let me check my call logs because he
- 38:01facetimed us while we were in Ross Dress
- 38:03for Less
- 38:06getting these shoes popping out with
- 38:08such a bad shoes
- 38:10chunky dad shoes
- 38:12Chandler approved
- 38:18and I remember our call dropped many
- 38:20times
- 38:22because there is no signal in there
- 38:33your song following right just you and
- 38:34Rose went to get Starbucks and Panera
- 38:36yep and then when we like yes just her
- 38:40and I my brother stayed home because he
- 38:42was smoking ribs
- 38:46so then
- 38:47[Music]
- 38:48um
- 38:48Saturday night the Chandler spend the
- 38:50night with you at the house nope he was
- 38:51at his house so he went home yeah okay
- 38:54okay
- 38:57and then
- 38:59we were at like wrong
- 39:05I think
- 39:11112 is what I'm thinking 112 yes
- 39:18um because
- 39:22I'm trying to look Pizza together
- 39:30yeah and then I think we were like
- 39:34we're in Marshalls when he gave me a
- 39:36call he was sleeping I think
- 39:41because when he arrived
- 39:43he was there for like we were all there
- 39:45for a little bit and then Rose wanted to
- 39:47go to Ross
- 39:48and so Chandler stayed in my room to
- 39:50take a nap
- 39:52oh his legs
- 39:54so he could
- 39:56which is fair
- 39:58and so
- 40:00we went from Ross
- 40:03picture of my receipt from Marshalls
- 40:08which is what I took in the car before
- 40:10we went back to the house
- 40:13um
- 40:15and that was taken at 2 14 pm
- 40:23that was from where Marshalls Marshalls
- 40:25I love it please me too they had like
- 40:28Calvin Klein stuff in so I have cop
- 40:31I forgot
- 40:33and drink a bottle of water
- 40:35you drink bottled water yeah that was
- 40:36really hard you gotta go to the bathroom
- 40:37oh I went before okay it's literally
- 40:40right there
- 40:41just let us know you can go thank you I
- 40:43will not pee on your couches okay I
- 40:45appreciate that who would not appreciate
- 40:47that
- 40:49I don't want to disappointed there you
- 40:51go Marshalls yes and then
- 40:55from there
- 40:56um
- 41:00back to the house
- 41:01and then so we were kind of like running
- 41:04behind because like they're supposed to
- 41:06be like around 3 30. and so like
- 41:07Chandler and I
- 41:09um
- 41:11we
- 41:13got in my car so he could go we drove to
- 41:18his house so we could let the dogs out
- 41:21um I think I forgot to mention that to
- 41:22you that we went to Windsor to take his
- 41:23dogs out
- 41:24and then
- 41:31anything well 214 was on the way back to
- 41:35Mark or from Marshalls on the car yeah
- 41:37Ross parking lot because we walked to
- 41:39Marshall
- 41:41so our house is maybe like um 10 minute
- 41:43try
- 41:49drawings
- 41:59but
- 42:01like we were
- 42:16can I check my I might have a quick trip
- 42:19receipt because I went to Quick Trip
- 42:21when we left his house
- 42:25you guys want Quick Trip you went to the
- 42:27one by the roundabouts
- 42:35uh Windsor Road exit quick trip
- 42:37so that's QuikTrip all by itself kind of
- 42:39yeah
- 42:56David's Bridal
- 43:03canes I do not save my receipt
- 43:06um
- 43:07but I know we got gas
- 43:15and then from there we went
- 43:21and then I have a video of us by the
- 43:23pool at the farm
- 43:27after we had dinner I think can you make
- 43:30dinner at 3 30.
- 43:38it looks good you made crab salad
- 43:44um
- 43:48yes on the 4th 5 30 P.M
- 43:51that is Chandler cleaning the bikes on
- 43:54the pool
- 43:59and the girls Rose
- 44:02why was he wearing a long sleeve shirt
- 44:03wasn't it like an idea oh he wears long
- 44:06sleeve shirts
- 44:07like oh
- 44:08he doesn't like t-shirt
- 44:16what time is that video
- 44:245 30. I'm gonna approach all right
- 44:27you're fine
- 44:28it says right there at the top
- 44:36and then
- 44:39we left around 6 30 because he had to be
- 44:42home before 8 to feed the dogs their
- 44:44dinner
- 44:45and so we left around 6 30 and probably
- 44:48got to like the my mom's house
- 44:53I threw up
- 44:55um there's a garbage or a bathroom
- 44:58I think it'll look really sucks if I
- 45:00stand up and run out of here I'm not
- 45:03trying to get tackled I'm not going to
- 45:05tackle you you can go over here too oh
- 45:09you're good okay
- 45:11so you left around 6 30 because Chandler
- 45:14needed to feed the dogs yes did you stay
- 45:17on Sunday at his house or did you go
- 45:20okay I stayed with him but
- 45:22um when we first got to my mom's house
- 45:24he left right away to go straight to his
- 45:26house to feed the dogs I got my wet
- 45:28clothes out of the like a washer because
- 45:31I was gonna dry my clothes there
- 45:34and
- 45:35um
- 45:36so I did that packed everything I needed
- 45:38went to his place he threw everything in
- 45:41the dryer which
- 45:44to hang it so like we took time to like
- 45:46pull stuff out and hang it and then we
- 45:49went to
- 45:50um his mom's co-workers house Dan and he
- 45:54did some fireworks in the street and we
- 45:56did that for like maybe an hour and then
- 45:58went back took a shower
- 46:02um I blew dry my hair
- 46:06went back to his house and then
- 46:10went to bed around like 12 in the
- 46:13morning because you know fireworks going
- 46:15off Rizzo's jumping on everything you're
- 46:18working crying
- 46:23are we stopping on Sunday are we going
- 46:25on until Tuesday keep on going all right
- 46:27keep on trucking so I'm doing good so
- 46:30finally let you keep going
- 46:37[Music]
- 46:39Sunday woke up
- 46:41got ready
- 46:43Sunday or Monday Monday sorry
- 46:47left around
- 46:507 40 because I took a picture at 7 33 of
- 46:54us
- 46:55is he sleeping no he was awake oh he
- 46:58just rests his eyes along
- 47:02um
- 47:04Anna's alone sleep again
- 47:07and
- 47:08then I went to work I don't know if you
- 47:10want to see a picture of me at my job
- 47:11because I took a picture
- 47:13in the Hazardous section
- 47:15being the Hazardous medication
- 47:18let me see that why do you look what
- 47:20shirt do you have on Billy eilish yeah
- 47:22it was a sweater over a black T-shirt
- 47:25he looks super pumped
- 47:27up oh hazardous is so fun
- 47:35so what time was that picture
- 47:379 16 a.m 9 16 A.M
- 47:43and then
- 47:45after work
- 47:47I I'm trying to get done with work
- 47:50so I was working 8 30 to 5. yeah that's
- 47:54the Hazardous shift we do a rotating
- 47:56schedule
- 47:58um get a lunch break
- 48:00yeah it's a long day
- 48:01you get a 30 minute lunch break okay 15
- 48:03minute break if I choose
- 48:06take it take a break
- 48:09we don't have time
- 48:12um
- 48:14from there I went to my mom's house
- 48:20um
- 48:22because
- 48:24Chandler went to the farm
- 48:26because
- 48:27um my mom's fiance lets him walk in the
- 48:30pool because that's one of the things we
- 48:31did Sunday because it helped stretch out
- 48:33his lights make him feel better
- 48:35stretch his legs
- 48:37okay
- 48:38because he has some like
- 48:43numbness that's the word
- 48:45and then from his fall he had a couple
- 48:48weeks back
- 48:49and
- 48:51um
- 48:51so from there he came out from my house
- 48:55before that I went to McDonald's
- 48:58so he probably got to my house around
- 49:00like
- 49:017 10 because he'd like be there because
- 49:03I was in a McDonald's line but there's a
- 49:05guy screaming at someone in the window
- 49:07and I took a video of it at the
- 49:09McDonald's
- 49:117 14.
- 49:16wow
- 49:18that was at Milwaukee Street right yeah
- 49:20the one your friend liked a lot
- 49:24um
- 49:26and then
- 49:28he ate and then left
- 49:31then you say it is for yourself I stayed
- 49:32at my mom's house
- 49:34well God went to work
- 49:37picture of
- 49:38what time did he get to your house on
- 49:40Monday to use the pool
- 49:42on the farm
- 49:45let me check my call records
- 49:57um so I called him around 502 when I got
- 49:59off work and I got into my car and I
- 50:02think he was starting to drive at that
- 50:04time
- 50:06um Drive
- 50:08from Windsor to the farm farm
- 50:12okay
- 50:14that's really sweet cookie
- 50:18um you hate it huh I didn't make it so
- 50:25there's that and then
- 50:29I called my mom and the farm
- 50:32because they weren't answering his calls
- 50:37I think I finally got a hold of my mom
- 50:39and then my friend
- 50:41and then
- 50:50hmm
- 50:54yeah he was around there it's
- 50:57seven
- 50:58or five he might have been close
- 51:03because we have a cold 705 that last
- 51:09message
- 51:11and then
- 51:14you left and then Tuesday I woke up went
- 51:16to work
- 51:18um went back to my mom's house because
- 51:20he wanted to come over and I was gonna
- 51:22cook his pork chops boy mom changed
- 51:23everyone's mind because she really
- 51:24wanted Buffalo Wild Wings
- 51:26because the thing we do with Chandler is
- 51:27buy one get one and we do two orders
- 51:29that
- 51:35um so we did that
- 51:37and then Chandler watched Legally Blonde
- 51:39with us and I remember there was a storm
- 51:41happening
- 51:44so you went to Mom's after work
- 51:48it's easy because it's like
- 51:50halfway between the apartment and his
- 51:52house okay so from moms then we went to
- 51:55the farm
- 51:58right is that what you said no on Monday
- 52:01he went from the farm to Mom's house and
- 52:03then Tuesday we didn't go to the farm
- 52:06okay so Tuesday you were at Mom's house
- 52:09Tuesday at Mom's house Chandler was he
- 52:11there already he wasn't there before I
- 52:13got there
- 52:14what time did Chandler get there
- 52:29maybe like
- 52:31six
- 52:38I think six
- 52:40and then
- 52:42there was a storm happening while he was
- 52:44there
- 52:45at 802. so he probably left like
- 52:49later like maybe 8 30s when he left
- 52:59okay yeah I think that's probably about
- 53:01right
- 53:03videos from
- 53:06that he was in the bathroom at that
- 53:09at that point I remember because it
- 53:10takes like 20 minutes in the bathroom
- 53:19and then we hung out yesterday
- 53:23wasn't I
- 53:25did you go over to Chandler's on
- 53:26Wednesday no we hung out I know but did
- 53:29after you and I had our Epic no I went
- 53:32to my friend Danny's
- 53:35um I told you how I went to hang out
- 53:37with Danny his girlfriend Abigail works
- 53:39at David's Bridal so I met them there
- 53:42um
- 53:43and then we went and got dinner at
- 53:46Guadalajara
- 53:48it's close to downtown
- 53:50and then we went back to their condo and
- 53:52I stayed on their futon because they
- 53:53didn't think it was a good idea for me
- 53:54to
- 53:55go to my apartment and just lay there
- 53:57alone
- 53:59um
- 54:00none
- 54:02let's work today for only 30 minutes
- 54:06finally 30.
- 54:12okay I'm an emotional person because
- 54:13that's what you're crying about
- 54:15my boyfriend's parents are missing like
- 54:17I I think it's more concerning if I
- 54:20wasn't concerned I'm a very emotional
- 54:22person like I cry enough for both of us
- 54:24is like what I like to say sure
- 54:26like
- 54:28it's like
- 54:29I hang out with the family often you
- 54:31know
- 54:35there was parents they're important like
- 54:39hang out with them we play Mario Kart
- 54:41his mom makes the toad sound every time
- 54:42she selects toad no Yoshi the Yoshi's
- 54:45round
- 54:47that's exactly how she does it
- 54:52loose every time but like
- 54:57like I don't I don't I just don't
- 54:59understand how you could
- 55:01and like be worried
- 55:03or emotional I know I mean that's why
- 55:06we're here we're worried yeah
- 55:10yeah it is his house Chandler been
- 55:14like I said he's not really he expresses
- 55:17it in a different way
- 55:20it's not like
- 55:22the biggest metal person but like
- 55:26I guess like when I look at him it's
- 55:28different when other people look at him
- 55:29like I can tell it's really hard on him
- 55:32like
- 55:34he just sits there and Associates and
- 55:36like
- 55:37paces and like
- 55:41you know just sits there you're like
- 55:43wearing my parents like a shell and like
- 55:46when his brother was over like
- 55:49what was that
- 55:51they left around like today yeah
- 55:54yeah before they went
- 55:56to tattoo-age they're like
- 55:58by the time I always go like he's
- 56:00following his big brother around
- 56:02like subtle things like most people have
- 56:04noticed but like I'm dating him for a
- 56:06while
- 56:07what was um well what was Michelle doing
- 56:09there at the house just looking around
- 56:11the house looking for anything Chandler
- 56:14grabbing the spare key to go to the
- 56:16cabin or keys that Chandler founded is
- 56:18that car that they think are their keys
- 56:20to the cabin
- 56:26they talked for a while
- 56:28Chandler told them about his light
- 56:30numbness and how he's been going to the
- 56:31farm and like doing circles in the pool
- 56:33to like help with that like PT
- 56:38I mean how I've been stretching them and
- 56:41so he was following his brother around
- 56:43the house today just casing upset
- 56:48in his own way you know
- 56:51like just showing his his brother like
- 56:54hey like maybe like in their dressers I
- 56:57didn't find anything but like do you
- 56:58know what this meal
- 57:00pretty much I stayed on the couch and I
- 57:01didn't want to like
- 57:04intrude in a way like I've only been
- 57:06dating him for almost two years and like
- 57:09his fiancee's been dating him
- 57:11for like six you know like
- 57:15what did he start using the pool to work
- 57:17his legs out has it been going on for a
- 57:19while no someday should be Sunday yeah
- 57:22because he was in his Breeze until
- 57:23Thursday
- 57:27his parents really
- 57:41I'm sorry I think you're gonna have
- 57:42something
- 57:44no I I think you did already so
- 57:51hydrated that's what I hear
- 57:56so his brother is there today he leaves
- 57:58to
- 58:03what does Chandler want to do does he
- 58:05want to stay in Madison does he want to
- 58:07go up to the cabin and help his brother
- 58:09what's his
- 58:10what's he thinking I asked him that when
- 58:13I was on the couch I was like why why
- 58:15don't we go up to the cabin because like
- 58:16his fiancee and him were gone is like
- 58:18well I can't drive I'm like well I
- 58:24I could cut up he's like but I don't
- 58:27know if they need me in Madison for
- 58:28questions which clearly you guys did
- 58:31and like and I also need to be with the
- 58:34dogs
- 58:35and he's like and you need to be with
- 58:37the dogs because
- 58:39you know
- 58:40they they have a harder time with
- 58:42Caitlyn because she's not around the
- 58:44past much
- 58:45so
- 58:49that was his reasoning
- 58:51before Mitch came I cooked them pork
- 58:53chops and like brussels sprouts
- 58:57after that
- 59:01um
- 59:02before Mitch came we showered and then
- 59:05Mitch came and then he left and then I
- 59:07think he went to his neighbors to see if
- 59:09they had like
- 59:11any like a ring camera and if there's
- 59:13like 40 footage that might have caught
- 59:14the car and they said they already
- 59:16handed over to the police when he came
- 59:17back and I was in the backyard playing
- 59:19frisbee with the dogs
- 59:21and then we went inside and watched New
- 59:23Girl
- 59:25and then he saw the police outside he
- 59:27said hey I'm gonna go talk to them to
- 59:28ask if I can still get my mail in the in
- 59:30the mail because I guess there was like
- 59:33a ticket saying no mail or something
- 59:34like that
- 59:38no I don't know anything about that
- 59:42that's weird
- 59:46how was he when he came back from the
- 59:47neighbor's house after checking for the
- 59:49ring
- 59:54I guess a little relieved that they had
- 59:55a camera
- 59:57like
- 59:59his parents okay
- 1:00:03you know every son's like my parents
- 1:00:05annoying me but like there's parents
- 1:00:08do dinners all
- 1:00:10the time like every holiday they're
- 1:00:12doing a dinner
- 1:00:13Father's Day Mother's Day they're all
- 1:00:15together like Easter they don't really
- 1:00:18even celebrate Easter that much but
- 1:00:21parents make sure they have yeast for
- 1:00:23everyone
- 1:00:24um
- 1:00:25like
- 1:00:28so he has a good relationship with Mom
- 1:00:30and Dad
- 1:00:32he's introverted and like doesn't want
- 1:00:34to hang out with his parents he'd rather
- 1:00:36video game on his computer
- 1:00:39sure
- 1:00:40and we play board games he's like more
- 1:00:43reserved you know like
- 1:00:46not like shouting out jokes but like he
- 1:00:49you know has one-liners in there
- 1:00:52sure as they call them
- 1:00:55um
- 1:00:57like
- 1:00:58pee fishes in his backyard with his dad
- 1:01:01that's why one of the reasons why I
- 1:01:03bought the house so they could fish in
- 1:01:04the backyard
- 1:01:09it's a good relationship nothing no
- 1:01:12problems that you know of between the
- 1:01:13three of them
- 1:01:15I mean he owed the money but he paid
- 1:01:18them back I told you that already
- 1:01:21um and that's why I was allowed over
- 1:01:22during the weekend but other than that
- 1:01:26that's like the whole
- 1:01:28I've really seen a big problem with them
- 1:01:30I guess so what did Chandler so Chandler
- 1:01:32said he you said he called you Thursday
- 1:01:34to let you know like hey my parents are
- 1:01:36going to the cabin I'm gonna be home
- 1:01:39alone with the dogs I think he snapped
- 1:01:41me that and then like we facetimed later
- 1:01:43okay
- 1:01:45he snapped you that you know like
- 1:01:48Snapchat yep no no I get it I just don't
- 1:01:51know I'm not a snapper
- 1:01:55what time is he snapping that I'm
- 1:01:57telling you snap you that do you
- 1:01:58remember ish
- 1:01:59guesstimate after five no I was off work
- 1:02:04last week I know five I closed I was
- 1:02:07room temp shipping okay
- 1:02:10all right
- 1:02:12so before you said
- 1:02:15um that the dogs the
- 1:02:17the dogs are more comfortable with you
- 1:02:19than Mitch's okay fiance Caitlyn just
- 1:02:23because you're around more yeah I'm like
- 1:02:26I'm there almost all the time like
- 1:02:29I hang out with him and his parents like
- 1:02:32like I told you how like I wasn't over
- 1:02:35for like two weeks pretty much but like
- 1:02:36I was still there having root beer
- 1:02:38floats with them that one time
- 1:02:40like I cooked them Mexican traditional
- 1:02:43food before because my mom's an
- 1:02:44immigrant
- 1:02:45like
- 1:02:47I'm just there often if I'm not there
- 1:02:49he's hanging out with me and like maybe
- 1:02:52we won't hang out like
- 1:02:55it's very variant it depends on like if
- 1:02:58we're doing stuff with our families or
- 1:03:00if we have other plans but
- 1:03:02like like I said I played Mario Kart
- 1:03:04with his mom and dad
- 1:03:06um
- 1:03:08hang out with them sometimes just have
- 1:03:10dinner with them
- 1:03:12so what was the whole two week thing why
- 1:03:14weren't you allowed without owing money
- 1:03:16thing so did he how did that come about
- 1:03:19why was that a big deal because I
- 1:03:21thought yesterday you said that he's old
- 1:03:24for like rent and Christmas presents and
- 1:03:27stuff like that so why was it that was
- 1:03:29two weeks yeah because like he was
- 1:03:31working uh for American Family at the
- 1:03:33time
- 1:03:34and like they just there was like
- 1:03:36problems with HR and how they weren't
- 1:03:38like paying him and like it was like
- 1:03:40they sent it in the mail sent it to like
- 1:03:42not his address so he was like please
- 1:03:44cancel that check and he like tried
- 1:03:46getting them to like deposit it and then
- 1:03:48at that point they owed him like a
- 1:03:50couple thousand dollars because they
- 1:03:51were so far behind and then I guess the
- 1:03:54company that they sent money through was
- 1:03:55like this doesn't seem legit they
- 1:03:57thought it was a scam and so his parents
- 1:03:59were like
- 1:04:01you got to give us that money because we
- 1:04:02know you have money
- 1:04:05and so
- 1:04:07then he paid them
- 1:04:09it was just those two weeks that are
- 1:04:11like you had like strict
- 1:04:14okay which is weird because like
- 1:04:16his mom's like don't be spending money
- 1:04:18because you owe us money but they're not
- 1:04:19ever like really
- 1:04:22he said it wasn't really his mom as more
- 1:04:24of his dad like on him but his dad's
- 1:04:26also an accountant so I understand she
- 1:04:28okay with y'all
- 1:04:30I appreciate that
- 1:04:37so for the two weeks was that when he
- 1:04:39hurt his back when he fell yeah it
- 1:04:42pretty much started like right after he
- 1:04:43fell
- 1:04:44because like
- 1:04:48they can just say cat can't come over
- 1:04:50it was a part of like the recovery and
- 1:04:52like hey you pay us back
- 1:04:56because he had to
- 1:04:57he fell down the stairs he just had
- 1:04:59twice bruised his ribs had to wear like
- 1:05:01a neck brace they were obviously
- 1:05:02concerned and didn't want him doing a
- 1:05:04lot
- 1:05:05so
- 1:05:06I think his dad was I don't know I think
- 1:05:09I don't know if he drove him to the
- 1:05:11hospital or
- 1:05:13um
- 1:05:14called an ambulance I think I have a
- 1:05:16picture of them together there
- 1:05:19sorry my brother's calling me
- 1:05:36he was asking what's happening because I
- 1:05:38told them I had to go downtown for
- 1:05:39questions and he's a cop in St Louis so
- 1:05:41he's like
- 1:05:42I'm gonna kill my sister
- 1:05:50because she was texting me about it that
- 1:05:52day
- 1:05:55do you know when he fell
- 1:05:57yes June 17th after before 1 42 because
- 1:06:01that's
- 1:06:09he was just going on the stairs and fell
- 1:06:10he
- 1:06:17Ard yeah classic yeah
- 1:06:21and so
- 1:06:23here he is in all of Glory
- 1:06:27um
- 1:06:32yeah and then like the day before that I
- 1:06:35was having problems because I had like a
- 1:06:37tailbone cyst and and so Wednesday I was
- 1:06:39over at the house and it's taking care
- 1:06:42of me
- 1:06:43and then he fell Thursday and I went to
- 1:06:45Urgent Care again Friday to get it
- 1:06:47drained
- 1:06:51it's not recommended no it sounds
- 1:06:53horrible
- 1:06:55hmm I could barely walk evenly down
- 1:07:02that was
- 1:07:04what which Thursday was that so
- 1:07:07the 17th is a Thursday so the 18th she
- 1:07:12got her cyst drained yes
- 1:07:15a calendar and then the 16th is the
- 1:07:19Wednesday I went to Urgent Care and he
- 1:07:21was taking care of me
- 1:07:31so I'm gonna ask you a weird question
- 1:07:32with him falling he probably was going
- 1:07:34on the computer but any kind of violence
- 1:07:36in the house
- 1:07:38no
- 1:07:39his dad was downstairs at his computer
- 1:07:42he was telling me about like hearing
- 1:07:44Chandler fall he was like that's not my
- 1:07:46computer it didn't sound bad
- 1:07:48like I got up to like check after a
- 1:07:50while and like he was on the floor and I
- 1:07:51was like
- 1:07:53okay Mr Alderson sure yeah
- 1:07:58he hasn't said anything about it
- 1:08:00afterwards like hey I really
- 1:08:02like
- 1:08:04I didn't I didn't just slip on my socks
- 1:08:07I actually you know Chandler's clumsy
- 1:08:10okay it is not the first time he has
- 1:08:12founded
- 1:08:13he needs like a Life Alert on the
- 1:08:15certain things okay
- 1:08:17I've seen him one of his many Falls
- 1:08:20just the
- 1:08:21he really likes the socks okay
- 1:08:24facts and long sleeves yeah
- 1:08:27it's gonna take a weird
- 1:08:30with his 11.5 shoes yeah with the
- 1:08:33flippers from swimming
- 1:08:37um did he borrow your car at all
- 1:08:40this weekend
- 1:08:44not that I recall he just drove his
- 1:08:45dad's car which is also a Subaru I think
- 1:08:48it's a crash track
- 1:08:50so before he said he couldn't go up to
- 1:08:52the cabin because he couldn't drive but
- 1:08:55he's been driving all weekend
- 1:08:57it's a four-hour drive though okay
- 1:08:59that's different okay
- 1:09:0130 minute at most drive to my house
- 1:09:05like I would drive I drove all of us to
- 1:09:07the farm
- 1:09:08so what's his thought process why can't
- 1:09:09he drive is it just the numbness okay
- 1:09:13like it's risk he doesn't want to crash
- 1:09:14the car okay sure oh my
- 1:09:17conscious on other drivers like okay if
- 1:09:20something were to happen he hits another
- 1:09:21car I don't think he'd live with us okay
- 1:09:24it's a medical reason basically
- 1:09:25basically pretty much yeah
- 1:09:29how did his doctor's appointment go on
- 1:09:32Monday or Tuesday not the Monday okay
- 1:09:36not the best
- 1:09:38I told him like
- 1:09:40a
- 1:09:41the stuttering will go away but like the
- 1:09:44numbness is gonna like stay
- 1:09:46you know because like he hit his head
- 1:09:48twice they said like the numbness was
- 1:09:49from like
- 1:09:50like anything
- 1:09:51and
- 1:09:54that's when he talked to his HR and he
- 1:09:56was like I had to be honest with them
- 1:09:57and that's how he lost the SpaceX job
- 1:10:05may I go pee yeah
- 1:10:08should I leave my phone you can do
- 1:10:10whatever you need to you know where the
- 1:10:12bathroom is right down home right or
- 1:10:14like right there
- 1:15:03foreign
- 1:15:12foreign
- 1:16:20foreign
- 1:16:48oh you're fine
- 1:16:50I wasn't able to run today
- 1:16:53so your mom is requesting that you just
- 1:16:57kind of give her a call like let her
- 1:16:59know that you're safe I text her when I
- 1:17:01was in the bathroom oh you work okay
- 1:17:03Center eight two texts okay she evacue
- 1:17:06no okay so yeah if you want to call Mom
- 1:17:09you're totally welcome to
- 1:17:11just I know your mom is probably worried
- 1:17:14sick
- 1:17:15[Music]
- 1:17:18okay she's gonna just cry at me for a
- 1:17:21couple hours he'll be here for a bit I'm
- 1:17:23it's up to you I mean I sent her a text
- 1:17:25and I also texted my brother to let him
- 1:17:27know where
- 1:17:30the one that's a cop
- 1:17:32in St Louis okay so you St Louis
- 1:17:35Missouri
- 1:17:36I know where it is
- 1:17:39I don't know sometimes people say like
- 1:17:41Milwaukee but they're in the suburbs or
- 1:17:42something so I don't know if he's in The
- 1:17:44Burbs
- 1:17:45before the city the suburbs or the city
- 1:17:47city it's cool what does he do
- 1:17:51huh well I didn't know if like he was on
- 1:17:53patrol cop if he was like in the schools
- 1:17:56you know like I think
- 1:17:58drives around
- 1:18:00takes calls like his partner got shot
- 1:18:03the other day yeah
- 1:18:07how long has it been a cop down there
- 1:18:09March oh wow yeah
- 1:18:13oh yeah I have like
- 1:18:15he sent me texts it was like first week
- 1:18:17I don't know if you want to hear it
- 1:18:20that's my mom
- 1:18:21she answered yeah no I was just in her
- 1:18:24text
- 1:18:26geez well since March yeah so you just
- 1:18:30finished the academy assume um and it
- 1:18:33was extended because of like
- 1:18:36um covid so you just got on the street
- 1:18:42[Music]
- 1:18:46you want to be in St Louis
- 1:18:48why yeah
- 1:18:51he eventually wants to come back to
- 1:18:52Madison and who's more experienced to
- 1:18:54cop in St Louis back in Madison
- 1:18:57that's true Resume Builder Big Time yeah
- 1:19:03all right
- 1:19:05so let's go back to pre-fall
- 1:19:09for approval pre-fall so how is
- 1:19:12Chandler's demeanor before the fall
- 1:19:16versus now
- 1:19:18I mean
- 1:19:20upbeat you know
- 1:19:22excited to be working for SpaceX
- 1:19:26like super
- 1:19:28like Mitch got he found out he had
- 1:19:30diabetes like he went to the emergency
- 1:19:32room like the Friday before Chandler
- 1:19:35fell and I got my tailbone
- 1:19:37blood sugar was like dangerously High
- 1:19:39you know
- 1:19:41and then like they released them from
- 1:19:42the hospital that
- 1:19:44Sunday
- 1:19:46and so like he was worried about that
- 1:19:47because like you know his brother
- 1:19:49could have died got diagnosed with
- 1:19:51diabetes super late
- 1:19:53so really worried around that time and
- 1:19:55stressed and like
- 1:19:58you know
- 1:20:01I don't think a person has a set of
- 1:20:03motion every day
- 1:20:05just
- 1:20:09you know
- 1:20:11gaming
- 1:20:13he does this thing where like he
- 1:20:16screen shares his video game with me
- 1:20:19while I go to sleep
- 1:20:20so I can go to sleep easier and he just
- 1:20:22like explains the game and talks it out
- 1:20:24and like just to help me fall asleep
- 1:20:27what game tarkov
- 1:20:30escape from turkoff
- 1:20:33I have no idea what that is
- 1:20:35okay
- 1:20:37um
- 1:20:40so that was going fine like
- 1:20:43weekend before his friend drove up from
- 1:20:45Kansas to visit him
- 1:20:54how is his um childhood
- 1:20:59have you ever talk to you about it
- 1:21:02I mean he grew up
- 1:21:05think until like elementary school he
- 1:21:07was in Madison
- 1:21:08then they went to Sheboygan area by
- 1:21:13Plymouth
- 1:21:14went to blooms high school went to
- 1:21:16States for swimming
- 1:21:18um swimming since a kid that's why he
- 1:21:20has flipper feet
- 1:21:22did soccer his mom has five photo album
- 1:21:25of each kid
- 1:21:27um mom was a stay-at-home mom so she
- 1:21:29drove them to every swim meet every
- 1:21:31soccer game every school event she was
- 1:21:34there
- 1:21:35helped me the t-shirts and the Flyers
- 1:21:41Eagle Scout Boy Scout
- 1:21:45went to prom with Miss Wisconsin
- 1:21:50popular kid
- 1:21:54any um hunting
- 1:21:57but you know
- 1:21:58or thinking hunting like maybe Boy
- 1:22:01Scouts okay he was a lifeguard
- 1:22:04um
- 1:22:05he was a boy scout like leader Camp
- 1:22:08leader
- 1:22:11he would play Taps at funerals
- 1:22:14whatever that
- 1:22:16Google
- 1:22:19I think so it's not the one with buttons
- 1:22:21yeah yeah
- 1:22:24you play Taps for them
- 1:22:26um
- 1:22:29and that was all through Boy Scouts
- 1:22:31I think he might have done that through
- 1:22:33band he did
- 1:22:34I have the funniest photo of him from
- 1:22:36high school
- 1:22:37they have like you know how some
- 1:22:39supplies Jazz fans he driven band
- 1:22:42and so they made them wear lederhoses
- 1:22:49this is one of the many photos in his
- 1:22:51photo album Jamie Chandler
- 1:22:54toddler like early Chandler
- 1:22:59um Chandler with glasses because he
- 1:23:01roasts me for wearing bifocals
- 1:23:04um the worst contacts that I'm a
- 1:23:06swimming yeah
- 1:23:08um
- 1:23:11I'm trying to find
- 1:23:24it's really funny and I really want to
- 1:23:25find it
- 1:23:30call this later hosen Chandler
- 1:23:32nice
- 1:23:35this is him at one of his swim meets
- 1:23:46I think he was on my calendar Society or
- 1:23:48something in high school
- 1:23:50very
- 1:23:53he was cogsworth and Beauty and the
- 1:23:55Beast in Middle School
- 1:23:56oh really yeah his mom's also showed me
- 1:23:59the video
- 1:24:00she promised
- 1:24:02got holder to it there you go
- 1:24:07um did he ever talk about like how I was
- 1:24:10punished
- 1:24:12did he get a lot of time out spankings
- 1:24:16hmm
- 1:24:33so I'm trying to remember if he
- 1:24:34mentioned it you're fine
- 1:24:39I think like
- 1:24:42maybe he would just study at the table
- 1:24:44and his dad would help any like get
- 1:24:46yelled at if he got too many wrong or
- 1:24:48something like that
- 1:24:50um
- 1:24:54so you mentioned that he was Honor
- 1:24:56Society very active dad would yell if he
- 1:24:59got to me wrong was there a lot of
- 1:25:00pressure on him
- 1:25:02I guess what about now
- 1:25:10I think it's like normal apparent
- 1:25:11pressure like they just want him to be
- 1:25:12the best person he can be okay if you
- 1:25:15don't see anything like abnormal like
- 1:25:16he's not like Jesus my parents do
- 1:25:20I mean his ideals at McDonald's
- 1:25:21drive-through workers a lot
- 1:25:24Mike
- 1:25:26whenever his mom gets home she always
- 1:25:28wants to know about his day how's your
- 1:25:30day going Chandler go sit in his room on
- 1:25:33his bed like while he's doing something
- 1:25:35I was like hi Mom
- 1:25:38he'll cut them dinner often because he's
- 1:25:39a really good cook he cooks for me too
- 1:25:43like just not grilling just not good at
- 1:25:46grilling no it's never used that I think
- 1:25:48that was the third time he said he used
- 1:25:49that girl why didn't you just tell me
- 1:25:51you've never grilled before
- 1:25:53but he can like make a shrimp scampi out
- 1:25:56of scratch hmm
- 1:25:58that's what he needs he can make it
- 1:26:09I guess they're on him for like yeah you
- 1:26:11got to help us with housework you got
- 1:26:12any chores but he like lives with them
- 1:26:14so
- 1:26:16it's fair yeah
- 1:26:18yeah helping out around the house like a
- 1:26:20normal child
- 1:26:23do they have a pickup truck
- 1:26:26pickup truck well you mentioned earlier
- 1:26:28that he would do chores like going to
- 1:26:29the dump oh but with that in the
- 1:26:31Volkswagen or his dad's um Forester it's
- 1:26:34not it might be a cross track okay but
- 1:26:38they just put what they need in the cars
- 1:26:40that they have they don't have a trailer
- 1:26:41or anything
- 1:26:50I'm not sure I'm not really involved in
- 1:26:52those chores okay
- 1:27:01Saturday Saturday yeah
- 1:27:03holiday weekend so yeah
- 1:27:07do you know does he go to the dump in
- 1:27:09Madison
- 1:27:13maybe the DeForest one because they live
- 1:27:15in Windsor to Forest okay
- 1:27:18um his dad usually goes to Minnesota's
- 1:27:20mom they usually make a trip out of it
- 1:27:22stop by quick trip on the way home grab
- 1:27:23soda his mom really likes QuikTrip
- 1:27:26there's a lot of people that love
- 1:27:27QuikTrip she has an obsession like
- 1:27:31when I tell you like if okay there's
- 1:27:33like I think it was around like
- 1:27:35Thanksgiving when Mitch and Caitlin were
- 1:27:37leaving the next day
- 1:27:39she like looked at she's like
- 1:27:41my babies are gone and I'm like I'm
- 1:27:43sorry and like before then I told you
- 1:27:45I'm like if your mom asked to go on a
- 1:27:47quick trip rum you have to say yes she's
- 1:27:49like do you guys want to go to Quick
- 1:27:50Trip and I was like
- 1:27:51he's like okay
- 1:27:54because he get distracted
- 1:27:56often yeah she goes there for soda she
- 1:27:58goes there for snacks she even looked at
- 1:28:00their meat section because in case she
- 1:28:02couldn't get it's my mom
- 1:28:05hi Mom
- 1:28:08yeah I'm with Liz and George George
- 1:28:16I'm fine Mom
- 1:28:18they're just asking questions I'm not
- 1:28:20I'm not being interrogated right no just
- 1:28:22asking me questions asking questions so
- 1:28:24I can leave whenever I want to
- 1:28:30I'm fine
- 1:28:35I'm not mad
- 1:28:39I'm tired yes
- 1:28:45but I'd rather answer their questions so
- 1:28:47they can help find Mr and Mrs holderson
- 1:28:49I think that's a little more important
- 1:28:50than a nap
- 1:28:52well if I'm here now I can answer
- 1:28:54questions now
- 1:29:00love you too Mom
- 1:29:04my car said Chandlers
- 1:29:09no they took us in squad cars
- 1:29:16yeah
- 1:29:17I met Lisa you remember when I was in
- 1:29:19Steel Magnolia as the play
- 1:29:22so this cop was also in Steel Magnolias
- 1:29:25twice because she was a theater major
- 1:29:30yeah she was the pregnant hairdresser
- 1:29:34and then Shelby the girl who dies sorry
- 1:29:36for the spoilers
- 1:29:46yeah and they she's heard of Grandpa
- 1:29:49John
- 1:29:52yeah
- 1:29:55um they also gave me a cookie one had
- 1:29:57chocolate so they tried to poison me at
- 1:29:59some point
- 1:30:00my mom knows now George
- 1:30:03tell Mom I did not let you eat the
- 1:30:05cookie
- 1:30:06okay Mom I love you
- 1:30:09I think so
- 1:30:12I don't think you should find a
- 1:30:14detective she said she's Mexican and she
- 1:30:16can throw a chancla very well
- 1:30:19okay I love you Mom
- 1:30:25I'm proud
- 1:30:27I think the plan is Chandler and I are
- 1:30:29gonna get dinner
- 1:30:32mm-hmm
- 1:30:34if not like I'll probably cook or it's
- 1:30:37getting pretty late so we don't want to
- 1:30:39go to the farm for food
- 1:30:44I know but it's late and we don't want
- 1:30:45to drive through the dark it's a deer
- 1:30:47season
- 1:30:49okay I gotta I'm Gonna Let You
- 1:30:53I'm probably gonna stay with Chandler
- 1:30:54mom
- 1:30:59no
- 1:31:05yeah my pharmacists know the situation
- 1:31:08and they said if I'm not going to be
- 1:31:09able to work there's no point of me
- 1:31:12being there
- 1:31:13not like a mean way like a i I'd
- 1:31:15probably take care of myself
- 1:31:22I am
- 1:31:24[Music]
- 1:31:25I am
- 1:31:27okay love you love you okay love you too
- 1:31:30okay bye love you
- 1:31:33foreign
- 1:31:42she's mom
- 1:31:44it's pretty much the exact same way yeah
- 1:31:47yeah
- 1:31:48we talk about my mom's dog muffin we
- 1:31:50were talking about how it looks like an
- 1:31:51ewok oh really yeah
- 1:31:54yeah
- 1:31:57so obviously you're a big strawberries
- 1:31:59fan
- 1:32:00there's a family like I collect the
- 1:32:02action figures do you I have the limited
- 1:32:04edition of YouTubes like I love Star
- 1:32:05Wars
- 1:32:06do you like the new one the Mandalorian
- 1:32:08oh the Mandalorian yes
- 1:32:11sequels
- 1:32:14um
- 1:32:15I don't know anything about
- 1:32:18my Star Wars movie ever I thought you
- 1:32:21were just talking no there's people that
- 1:32:24in my house that are obsessed with it so
- 1:32:26I
- 1:32:27thought all about the Mandalorian and
- 1:32:29the I thought it was a baby Yoda but I
- 1:32:31guess it's not Yoda
- 1:32:33same species named grogu yeah see
- 1:32:35there's a muffin my mom's dog
- 1:32:38this is pretty much Miss holderson I
- 1:32:40just talking about how he looks like any
- 1:32:41walk
- 1:32:43it does
- 1:32:46um
- 1:32:48and this is from when his friend from
- 1:32:51Kansas visited on
- 1:32:53on the 12th this is a photo with his dad
- 1:32:56Smith Chandler and myself breakfast
- 1:33:00his mom took it his mom's more of the
- 1:33:02picture taker than being in photos but
- 1:33:05sure
- 1:33:11so how after the fall then
- 1:33:13did he stay the same upbeat and happy
- 1:33:15all the time or do you think there's a
- 1:33:16little bit of a change I mean he was
- 1:33:18tired he hit his head like
- 1:33:23sad because like
- 1:33:25infected obviously states that someone
- 1:33:27he wanted to be down there in Florida
- 1:33:31sure
- 1:33:34have an emotional stuff
- 1:33:36and um
- 1:33:39like he obviously lost his job on Monday
- 1:33:41so it's like he's doing his best
- 1:33:44to work up to going and like showing you
- 1:33:46can still work for him but
- 1:33:51it's just hard fell down didn't want to
- 1:33:53lose his job
- 1:33:57straight up
- 1:33:58I like
- 1:34:00still face time talk
- 1:34:02laugh at jokes
- 1:34:04not like
- 1:34:06I hate life
- 1:34:09everyone burned you know yeah
- 1:34:12not like a switch like Jeffrey Dahmer
- 1:34:15yeah yeah
- 1:34:18tell me about Florida
- 1:34:20so that's where SpaceX was that's where
- 1:34:22he was supposed to go
- 1:34:24what was the plan
- 1:34:27go down there
- 1:34:29YouTube
- 1:34:31okay so what did that mean
- 1:34:34because obviously your job here so did
- 1:34:36you have a job lined up we're just gonna
- 1:34:39transfer to uh
- 1:34:41I'm not trying to say FU but like Fu
- 1:34:43Florida University because they also
- 1:34:45have a pharmacy school down there
- 1:34:51so I'm getting Facebook notifications
- 1:34:52because people are reposting the Dane
- 1:34:54County Sheriff's like notice about them
- 1:34:57and
- 1:34:58we've just been messaging people and
- 1:35:01like
- 1:35:01people have been noticing they're like
- 1:35:03hey are you guys okay and we're just
- 1:35:04telling them repost or tell people sure
- 1:35:08um
- 1:35:09yeah
- 1:35:10okay she's gonna go down there did you
- 1:35:12guys have like everything lined up like
- 1:35:15when were you supposed to
- 1:35:18um
- 1:35:18he was supposed to leave the Saturday
- 1:35:21of the Fall so happened on Thursday
- 1:35:24Friday supposedly Saturday morning
- 1:35:27and then
- 1:35:29I was gonna leave at the end or middle
- 1:35:31of August because
- 1:35:33I want to be here for my birthday oh
- 1:35:35it's a big one
- 1:35:38Gonna Get Crunk
- 1:35:48oh shoot what's wrong it broke oh
- 1:35:53my heart Okay so
- 1:35:57did you guys have like a place that you
- 1:35:59were gonna like did you have everything
- 1:36:01kind of figured out
- 1:36:03where are we gonna stay
- 1:36:04just like apartment building in
- 1:36:06Titusville okay did he like already sign
- 1:36:08the lease and stuff
- 1:36:10I think so
- 1:36:14you say tight as hell okay Titusville
- 1:36:16Florida that were the
- 1:36:19Space Center
- 1:36:21the schools in Orlando but it's like an
- 1:36:23hour drive from Orlando and from how
- 1:36:25we're driving nothing
- 1:36:27not down there it's not nope
- 1:36:29especially they can go like 90. like
- 1:36:32normal like that's like the 55 here yeah
- 1:36:36like
- 1:36:38excited like
- 1:36:41he wants to save up for a boat because
- 1:36:42he loves fishing
- 1:36:49want to get a year pass at Disney
- 1:36:52go to Universal
- 1:36:55so like obviously it's like hard after
- 1:36:58like finding out like oh that's probably
- 1:37:00jeopardized and then it was so
- 1:37:06is he being interviewed too or is he
- 1:37:08done all right honestly I'm with you so
- 1:37:11I don't know
- 1:37:12you have my attention
- 1:37:14so there you go
- 1:37:16oh there you go
- 1:37:19didn't even have time to change my fuzzy
- 1:37:21socks Ah that's all right they look like
- 1:37:23they're so cozy
- 1:37:26wedding you can take your shoes off
- 1:37:28if they don't knock it it's not gonna be
- 1:37:31good for the room all right then we'll
- 1:37:33just leave them on I appreciate that
- 1:37:36all right so yesterday when we talked
- 1:37:40um you said that you showered with him
- 1:37:43Sunday
- 1:37:45to save the environment save the
- 1:37:47environment was there any other day that
- 1:37:49you showered together today safe
- 1:37:51environment okay we wash each other's
- 1:37:53hair you know
- 1:37:55okay so you showered Sunday I could talk
- 1:38:00today which is Thursday yeah
- 1:38:05um
- 1:38:07and so yesterday you said or yeah
- 1:38:10yesterday you said that your sex life is
- 1:38:12pretty normal you know he's whatever
- 1:38:14yeah we talk about everything that we do
- 1:38:16beforehand like
- 1:38:18something makes us upset we're like oh
- 1:38:20um let's not do that and they're like
- 1:38:22okay like
- 1:38:26doesn't hit me
- 1:38:28like if I was like slap me he would like
- 1:38:32okay like that's something he's not
- 1:38:33comfortable with Okay
- 1:38:35um
- 1:38:38um super personal
- 1:38:39um have you guys had sex this weekend
- 1:38:55maybe once Sunday
- 1:38:58okay
- 1:39:00but you're not sure
- 1:39:02yeah it was but I know it was once okay
- 1:39:05yeah
- 1:39:06yeah so one time this weekend
- 1:39:08is that pretty normal
- 1:39:11we usually do it more but like you know
- 1:39:13we are busy okay like tired
- 1:39:19not gonna do it today as a parent
- 1:39:21like
- 1:39:25heels upset Monday Tuesday we're with my
- 1:39:28family
- 1:39:30why was he upset on Monday
- 1:39:33because he lost the job okay
- 1:39:41this Sunday
- 1:39:53and Friday and Friday and Friday yeah
- 1:40:25yeah I don't think it was Sunday it was
- 1:40:26probably just Friday because they got
- 1:40:27light-headed at the end of it
- 1:40:31like he's having a hard time
- 1:40:34shaking his head too much and his lights
- 1:40:36are like really tired okay
- 1:40:40um so you said that normally you guys
- 1:40:42said you have sex more but it was a busy
- 1:40:44weekend busy weekend like he got
- 1:40:46lightheaded that one time and his legs
- 1:40:48were numb like not gonna force him
- 1:40:53are you guys normally like what is your
- 1:40:55normal sex life I guess are you pretty
- 1:40:58like every time you see each other yeah
- 1:41:00like within reason of her like hanging
- 1:41:03out with our families obviously not
- 1:41:05gonna go sneak off
- 1:41:07but usually every time we hang out maybe
- 1:41:10once or twice okay
- 1:41:12and then
- 1:41:14um
- 1:41:15what was the sex life and or sex like on
- 1:41:18Friday
- 1:41:20is it normal normal other than him being
- 1:41:23like
- 1:41:24you know
- 1:41:27Saudi and like
- 1:41:36okay
- 1:41:39normal duration or did everything get
- 1:41:41cut short
- 1:41:43normal duration okay
- 1:41:52thank you
- 1:41:54I was gonna try and shoot it but I
- 1:41:57didn't want to embarrass myself
- 1:42:04um so you've been at the house during
- 1:42:06the renovations obviously there's a lot
- 1:42:10going on at the house
- 1:42:11what is um what does this smell like in
- 1:42:14the house
- 1:42:16dog
- 1:42:19like when they were working on the
- 1:42:21basement wall
- 1:42:24s the okay no
- 1:42:27um
- 1:42:28there's a fiery smell on Friday because
- 1:42:30when he broke the
- 1:42:33when
- 1:42:35this thing on the fireplace like ash
- 1:42:38was like an exposed yeah okay
- 1:42:45any other thing that you smell or
- 1:42:47remember smelling
- 1:42:51Ash I was like it smells like a fire
- 1:42:54so maybe by extension grilling okay
- 1:43:06so before you said that there's no air
- 1:43:08conditioning was only in love kitchen so
- 1:43:12was that on during the weekend I thought
- 1:43:15you were there
- 1:43:18no windows were open fans were on okay
- 1:43:21he like if the dogs are really
- 1:43:23struggling like he'll turn it on for him
- 1:43:25and they lay underneath it because you
- 1:43:26know they're Border Collies long hairs
- 1:43:28so
- 1:43:29they love rolling in the snow so it's
- 1:43:32Summer's hungry
- 1:43:34um
- 1:43:36so but during the weekend
- 1:43:38mostly open window and fans okay
- 1:43:41I didn't know if that changed with the
- 1:43:43Fourth of July weekend
- 1:43:45um
- 1:43:47like when the fireworks are getting too
- 1:43:49loud we've just closed the window but
- 1:43:51leave fans on
- 1:43:54today was literally the coldest it's
- 1:43:56been since like winter for me there
- 1:43:59because it's been a chilly day he had
- 1:44:01all the windows going
- 1:44:02and like all the fans on to try and blow
- 1:44:04it all in okay yeah
- 1:44:07has he been helping with the renovation
- 1:44:09project at all
- 1:44:10he's done anything recently there
- 1:44:15um
- 1:44:17like mostly just artwork like
- 1:44:21I think he helped plant their new cherry
- 1:44:22tree
- 1:44:24um but he doesn't help like rip down
- 1:44:25walls or carpet or anything like that
- 1:44:28uh
- 1:44:31not recently but I recall like when
- 1:44:34their bathroom was under construction he
- 1:44:36helped put down the like heating floor
- 1:44:38tile stuff
- 1:44:42might have helped with the basement
- 1:44:45I know once they collected nails for his
- 1:44:48dad for something
- 1:44:50and then they brought it to the dump
- 1:44:54they went to the dump
- 1:44:58um
- 1:44:59yeah because
- 1:45:02he because I was having a hard time
- 1:45:04sitting down and like driving obviously
- 1:45:06he drove my car and his parents followed
- 1:45:08us and then picked them up
- 1:45:12on Wednesday
- 1:45:14uh when I when they were taking care of
- 1:45:16me because the Urgent Care thing the
- 1:45:18sale dentist oh okay yeah so a couple
- 1:45:20weeks back okay I just want to make sure
- 1:45:22I'm understanding you so that's that's
- 1:45:24the last time they went to the town so
- 1:45:25the Wednesday before like that you went
- 1:45:28to the ER because of the CIS Urgent Care
- 1:45:30yeah okay so that was the Wednesday
- 1:45:31night like yesterday Wednesday or the
- 1:45:34Wednesday before like on the first or
- 1:45:35whatever okay thank you for clarifying I
- 1:45:38just want to make sure that I'm
- 1:45:39understanding this yeah sorry all right
- 1:45:41you're good
- 1:45:42yeah that was the last time I recalled
- 1:45:44them talking about going to the dump but
- 1:45:46they go like quite often okay
- 1:45:50do they have a dumpster outside or they
- 1:45:52just take it all put in the car drive it
- 1:45:54okay do a quick trip on the way home
- 1:45:58I'm so sorry I feel like I seem like I
- 1:46:00have Bad Manners
- 1:46:05um this is
- 1:46:07Chandler talk about any um firearms that
- 1:46:09he has
- 1:46:13his friend did gift him one okay what is
- 1:46:16that
- 1:46:19called
- 1:46:23you know when
- 1:46:24he visited oh from Kansas yes okay
- 1:46:30but other than that his parents they
- 1:46:33have like a safe with other guns
- 1:46:36because he used to be on the shooting
- 1:46:38team in college
- 1:46:45Platteville that's the name started with
- 1:46:47a B
- 1:46:53the gun that he gets it was it like a
- 1:46:55handgun or something you hold like a
- 1:46:57rifle
- 1:46:58like a rifle his friend's in the
- 1:47:01military so oh wow
- 1:47:04do you know a friend's name
- 1:47:06Smith
- 1:47:08it's his last name
- 1:47:10his first name
- 1:47:11you know what branch
- 1:47:14army army yeah Kansas you said
- 1:47:19everything from
- 1:47:25foreign
- 1:47:28so he was on a shooting team for
- 1:47:30Platteville yeah it was like I don't
- 1:47:32know she was a club or something might
- 1:47:34have been a club for Platteville High
- 1:47:36School Platteville College okay
- 1:47:38he went to Plymouth High School
- 1:47:44where did he go to Platteville College
- 1:47:46um
- 1:47:48graduated high school in 2016 so we
- 1:47:50assumed 2016 full
- 1:47:54I'm not sure
- 1:47:56did he get his four-year there
- 1:47:59I think he did two years there okay he
- 1:48:01like had scholarships from like swimming
- 1:48:03and stuff and I think he did a little
- 1:48:04bit of water polo there
- 1:48:06not sure
- 1:48:13did he swim there
- 1:48:15water balloon
- 1:48:16but not swimming I don't know if he swam
- 1:48:24do you know is his the gun that he was
- 1:48:26gifted is that in the gun safe with all
- 1:48:29of his parents
- 1:48:32might be have you seen the gun like when
- 1:48:35he got it okay
- 1:48:38how do you describe it
- 1:48:40one
- 1:48:41black I think
- 1:48:44they look like an army gun like with the
- 1:48:46carry yeah
- 1:48:48like when I'm 16 ish
- 1:48:52I'm going like
- 1:48:55two things just you don't have any
- 1:48:57pictures of the gun
- 1:48:59I didn't know if Chandler like took
- 1:49:01pictures of like he's not like I'm a gun
- 1:49:03owner
- 1:49:04you know he's not like a kind of like
- 1:49:06the rifles cops carry
- 1:49:08similar to that with the magazine
- 1:49:09underneath
- 1:49:11no all we have in the pharmacy
- 1:49:15but it's not that no okay
- 1:49:22do you know if it was like a
- 1:49:25military issued gun or just one of
- 1:49:27Smith's guns that he was like Hey I
- 1:49:30don't need this yeah okay just an extra
- 1:49:32gun okay
- 1:49:36I've gifted it to him okay any reason
- 1:49:38why
- 1:49:41I didn't know if Chandler was like hey I
- 1:49:43like want a bed or I've been talking
- 1:49:45about going trap shooting
- 1:49:49like
- 1:49:55I don't recall a bet or something okay I
- 1:49:58think he just Smith showed us like
- 1:50:03open
- 1:50:06they're game together a lot so
- 1:50:10to see game on Discord
- 1:50:12well discord's a chatting app but when
- 1:50:15he's gaming is he on Discord sometimes
- 1:50:17okay he sometimes doesn't log in okay
- 1:50:24the other guns in the safe what do they
- 1:50:25look like have you ever seen them no no
- 1:50:27parents keep them pretty locked up we're
- 1:50:30at their bedroom or I don't know
- 1:50:34um another question about Smith when
- 1:50:36Smith came to visit did he drive up or
- 1:50:38did he fly do you remember the vehicle
- 1:50:42okay like
- 1:50:43see tiger
- 1:50:46silver
- 1:50:47kind of like
- 1:50:51played with really loud country music
- 1:50:56like a SUV type vehicle or car
- 1:51:01yes it is the long white ones
- 1:51:03like we take the butt off
- 1:51:07I don't know like the Scions
- 1:51:10I don't know cars like maybe like
- 1:51:12my Forester but like a little taller
- 1:51:16silver and like more boxy looking okay
- 1:51:27are you friends with Smith on in like
- 1:51:28any social media at all
- 1:51:39why are you so tired today did you not
- 1:51:41sleep last night I was with my friends
- 1:51:43okay please say it until like 12 a.m
- 1:51:46play Katan okay I don't know if you
- 1:51:48played because um
- 1:51:50no sport game
- 1:51:53um we got dinner and then we played
- 1:51:55baton
- 1:51:58so
- 1:52:00when did he when did Chandler start
- 1:52:02showing concern for his parents not
- 1:52:04being back
- 1:52:07like
- 1:52:08Monday Monday yeah
- 1:52:11like
- 1:52:12it's unusual to not get text messages
- 1:52:14from his mom
- 1:52:16or his like Dad kind of like his dad
- 1:52:19will send pictures of the cabin
- 1:52:23um
- 1:52:23where like his mom will text him updates
- 1:52:26or something like
- 1:52:28Bart caught a fish sent a picture apart
- 1:52:32so they went to the cabin on
- 1:52:34Friday morning is that right I think so
- 1:52:36yeah they sent him any updates during
- 1:52:37the weekend
- 1:52:39I thought it was Saturday they sent a
- 1:52:41text but he said it was Sunday
- 1:52:45I thought it was Saturday sure he said
- 1:52:48Sunday so why was he concerned on Monday
- 1:52:50if he just got the text yesterday or the
- 1:52:53day before
- 1:52:54supposed to live on Monday night
- 1:52:55experience are usually like on time but
- 1:52:58like okay
- 1:52:59it was like a
- 1:53:00they'll be back you know
- 1:53:03and then like they're supposed to be
- 1:53:04back early Tuesday morning if they
- 1:53:06didn't make it back Monday night
- 1:53:08and it's like his dad's very punctual
- 1:53:15his mom was supposed to work Tuesday
- 1:53:18okay
- 1:53:20but Monday y'all went to the farm he
- 1:53:23went to the farm okay
- 1:53:25uh he went to my house after I didn't go
- 1:53:27to the front with him okay but he talked
- 1:53:30with my mom and her fiance
- 1:53:37okay
- 1:53:39so how did you find out
- 1:53:40that the parents were
- 1:53:43not that they were late did he tell him
- 1:53:46yeah we text like all the time or
- 1:53:48SnapChat all the time not really text
- 1:53:51and it's like the entire weekend I'm
- 1:53:54like hey did you hear from your mom did
- 1:53:55your mom text you because like I'm so
- 1:53:57used to her texting him like while we're
- 1:53:59hanging out or while she's away you know
- 1:54:02and he's like no but like maybe the
- 1:54:04self-service is bad it's a busy weekend
- 1:54:06they're all probably using like one
- 1:54:07Tower
- 1:54:09for yeah and then like
- 1:54:12if you hear from your mom
- 1:54:15it's like no not yet it's fine it's
- 1:54:17probably busy you know with their
- 1:54:19friends
- 1:54:22I guess like in a way like
- 1:54:27you know like it'll be okay
- 1:54:32type of thing like they'll talk to us
- 1:54:34when they can
- 1:54:36sure
- 1:54:37um
- 1:54:38and then like
- 1:54:40and I was like Hey like
- 1:54:42if you heard from them he's like no not
- 1:54:44yet and like okay well has metered from
- 1:54:46them
- 1:54:47he's like I don't know I'm like
- 1:54:49um okay well you should maybe ask me
- 1:54:51she's like I don't want to make him
- 1:54:52worry and I'm like well even just ask
- 1:54:54like hey his mom sent you pictures of
- 1:54:56the cabin or anything you know
- 1:54:59because like Mitch has this whole
- 1:55:00diabetes thing and like just had an
- 1:55:03attack the Father's Day brunch thing we
- 1:55:05did
- 1:55:06because Mom is really concerned so I
- 1:55:09knew she would be texting him
- 1:55:15and then like
- 1:55:17Tuesday it was like
- 1:55:20still haven't heard anything and he's
- 1:55:21like yeah no I'm gonna go to the police
- 1:55:24tomorrow
- 1:55:28went to the police on Wednesday
- 1:55:30like
- 1:55:35I've been trying to call them yeah he
- 1:55:38tried to call them like he called his
- 1:55:40mom in front of me at one point and went
- 1:55:41straight to voicemail do you know what
- 1:55:43day that was
- 1:55:45just sometime this weekend
- 1:55:47okay
- 1:55:50because it's like have you tried to call
- 1:55:51your mom and he was like yeah
- 1:55:53and like he just opened it and called
- 1:55:56her again in front of me he's like it
- 1:55:57just go straight to voicemail it's like
- 1:55:58busy
- 1:56:01assume that I was like dead or something
- 1:56:03you know
- 1:56:05I'm pretty well charged I believe
- 1:56:08she like steps away from it to like
- 1:56:10clean or like do something but like
- 1:56:12she doesn't take too long to respond
- 1:56:14unless she's working
- 1:56:16was that his idea to go to the police or
- 1:56:18someone encouraged him to do that
- 1:56:21I was like
- 1:56:23I don't know if like he brought it up
- 1:56:25first
- 1:56:29I was like you have to go to the police
- 1:56:32both like your parents
- 1:56:34instead of yeah
- 1:56:36it was his idea
- 1:56:39but I was like have you heard from that
- 1:56:40have you heard from them you know yeah
- 1:56:44like I said it's so unusual to not hear
- 1:56:46from his mom
- 1:56:48did you guys look around the house for
- 1:56:49any kind of
- 1:56:51notes that they may have left or did you
- 1:56:53go into their rooms or the only note
- 1:56:55they left was Chandler's like insurance
- 1:56:57cards and like Pam's number on the table
- 1:57:00because he has his employment on Monday
- 1:57:09and
- 1:57:10did you go to their bedroom at all did
- 1:57:11it seem like clean clean the door was
- 1:57:14open I don't go in but
- 1:57:16the bed was made
- 1:57:18Chandler put their laundry on their
- 1:57:19bodies like I should probably fold their
- 1:57:21laundry so when they get back they'll be
- 1:57:23happy you know sure they like Lee does
- 1:57:26little stuff like that you know I think
- 1:57:28it makes any parent happy when their kid
- 1:57:29folds their clothes for them while
- 1:57:30they're gone
- 1:57:31I do it for my mom sometimes
- 1:57:39um
- 1:57:40gone we come knocking obviously you
- 1:57:45makes the report
- 1:57:47um
- 1:57:49did he say I'm happy that we were at
- 1:57:51least helping try to find his parents
- 1:57:54yeah
- 1:57:55like he talked to you when we first came
- 1:57:57here like he was like do you have any
- 1:57:59news like yeah like I text him through
- 1:58:01he's like there's they haven't heard
- 1:58:02anything like the cabin zombie like
- 1:58:05he want we were talking after vegetal
- 1:58:08left like
- 1:58:09hey Danny's like because my friend
- 1:58:11Danny's mom died of cancer you know his
- 1:58:13mom's sick so
- 1:58:15he's like you know his mom probably took
- 1:58:18that money and they're going to live
- 1:58:19life you know going to the casinos
- 1:58:20winning big and like
- 1:58:23you know having fun and Chandler's like
- 1:58:25yeah they're like they're at the casino
- 1:58:27they're like having such a good time
- 1:58:28like they're racking up that money you
- 1:58:29gotta stay there so they blow it all
- 1:58:31it's like yes yeah you know they're just
- 1:58:33at the casino living life he's like Yep
- 1:58:35they're just winning
- 1:58:36you know trying to stay positive
- 1:58:39talk about what they're probably doing
- 1:58:40like
- 1:58:42did they have any problems with anybody
- 1:58:44the hauler sends yeah
- 1:58:47you gotta ask not that I'm aware of
- 1:58:50the only thing I heard is like
- 1:58:54Christa doesn't miss holderson doesn't
- 1:58:56always get along with her boss you know
- 1:58:59but it doesn't always doesn't mean all
- 1:59:02the time like
- 1:59:04she made him like a gumball out of his
- 1:59:06head for his Christmas present
- 1:59:10a gumball machine because he always has
- 1:59:12like nuts they got a bag of nuts and
- 1:59:15like a gumball machine and it was like a
- 1:59:17Mr Hollis in a Miss hollison project to
- 1:59:19make it look like him okay so it was
- 1:59:21dispense and that's on his desk
- 1:59:24all right like
- 1:59:29maybe the McDonald's workers his dad
- 1:59:31would yell at through the
- 1:59:33speaker or something okay
- 1:59:36how was um Chandler this weekend was he
- 1:59:39sleeping and Eden and
- 1:59:42like she ate while up until Sunday
- 1:59:47because like
- 1:59:49you know
- 1:59:50just
- 1:59:52emotional Monday but like I made him eat
- 1:59:54and then like did a needle Tuesday
- 1:59:57because he was worried except the wings
- 1:59:58we got him
- 2:00:00and I made sure you took leftovers with
- 2:00:02him so we could have something to eat
- 2:00:04he said he had a peanut butter fold over
- 2:00:06yesterday and like his Dan and Mary
- 2:00:09bought him like a pizza so he could eat
- 2:00:10but he's really worried he's having a
- 2:00:12hard time
- 2:00:14me um
- 2:00:18you don't think he had anything to do
- 2:00:19with his mom and dad being
- 2:00:23unheard from yeah
- 2:00:25I just yeah
- 2:00:28all my friends I've talked to they're
- 2:00:30like no not Chandler no
- 2:00:33like
- 2:00:36that'd be
- 2:00:38crazy
- 2:00:39sorry I sound very monotone right now
- 2:00:41but like
- 2:00:42snow
- 2:00:44are you no
- 2:00:46um
- 2:00:47no no not a mean boy in his body
- 2:00:50well
- 2:00:52everyone has a mean bone
- 2:00:56they even said Mother Teresa was a dick
- 2:00:58sometimes like
- 2:01:00but I just don't see him killing Mr Mrs
- 2:01:03halderson like
- 2:01:05he had SpaceX like why would he
- 2:01:07jeopardize something he like would dream
- 2:01:09of you know like there's parents
- 2:01:13for Christmas they got him and his
- 2:01:14brother matching tool sets like come on
- 2:01:20he cooks dinner for them they have root
- 2:01:22beer floats together they played
- 2:01:24Mario Kart whenever his parents want to
- 2:01:26like
- 2:01:29and his brother Mitchell you think
- 2:01:30Mitchell yeah he's
- 2:01:33a leaf in the Wind
- 2:01:38even if he tried they could just like
- 2:01:39push him over and he'd like break
- 2:01:42no
- 2:01:47no any friends or relatives that they've
- 2:01:49been having problems with that you can
- 2:01:51think of no
- 2:01:52no I mean Miss hulderson didn't really
- 2:01:55like Mr holders inside of the family but
- 2:01:57they're also like Republican
- 2:01:58conservative and she's like very
- 2:02:01Democrat
- 2:02:02so
- 2:02:04I I just
- 2:02:07I just can't see someone killing them
- 2:02:09like that's the thing like
- 2:02:14like I thought like maybe they got into
- 2:02:15a car accident like maybe their cars on
- 2:02:17the side of the road like
- 2:02:18I even thought like maybe that happened
- 2:02:20and someone took them to the hospital
- 2:02:22and they're just Jane and John Doe
- 2:02:24like
- 2:02:26if someone killed them would have to be
- 2:02:28someone they like didn't know
- 2:02:30like I just can't see them like
- 2:02:33owing a loan shark money and then like
- 2:02:36them getting them or like having
- 2:02:38problems with the mob you know
- 2:02:40they're just not that type of people
- 2:02:42like
- 2:02:44can't see someone killing them
- 2:02:46I imagine you and Chandler had this
- 2:02:48conversation like like all the what is
- 2:02:51like car accident car I don't I didn't
- 2:02:53bring up the car accident to him
- 2:02:55I think our main thing was
- 2:02:58they're off throwing money everywhere we
- 2:03:02don't talk about other stuff he hasn't
- 2:03:04had that concern that something else
- 2:03:05could have happened
- 2:03:06I don't think he wants to think about
- 2:03:08that
- 2:03:09like he's obviously worried like they're
- 2:03:11not at the cabin sorry I'm emotional
- 2:03:13you're fine and it's like
- 2:03:15no one wants to think that
- 2:03:19like
- 2:03:20you can see himself just saying
- 2:03:23they're like blowing all the money
- 2:03:25they're just trying to live life
- 2:03:27they went like and extended their
- 2:03:28vacation somewhere
- 2:03:30like
- 2:03:31no one wants to think anything happened
- 2:03:33to them and like
- 2:03:39like we have to talk about other
- 2:03:40alternates we're like What would happen
- 2:03:42if something happened to his parents I
- 2:03:44just don't even think he wants to think
- 2:03:45about it
- 2:03:49okay
- 2:03:50want some paper towel or anything
- 2:03:51Kleenex yes please someone getting you
- 2:03:53some thank you
- 2:03:56I swear
- 2:04:01I know I don't even know the last time
- 2:04:04we cleaned in here there's honestly like
- 2:04:06a layer of dust up here you'll see so
- 2:04:08that could be the contributing factor
- 2:04:11uh Lisa and I were talking about how it
- 2:04:13looks like it's from the 90s in here oh
- 2:04:14yeah it definitely is I thought it was
- 2:04:1670s colors but I I almost said I'm
- 2:04:18around in the 90s
- 2:04:20I want to say this is probably like the
- 2:04:2390s 80s like vibe
- 2:04:26it's probably like straight out of
- 2:04:28someone like living room thank you
- 2:04:39sorry I didn't mean to upset you
- 2:04:41mean you're an upset me like like I said
- 2:04:44I think it's more concerning if I wasn't
- 2:04:45emotional yeah I was like
- 2:04:48no nothing bad happened to them
- 2:04:51I think that'd be a little more
- 2:04:52concerning you know yeah
- 2:04:55do you cry in front of Chandler
- 2:04:57they cry in front of everyone okay I'm
- 2:05:00emotional but mostly French
- 2:05:03does has he cried
- 2:05:06like
- 2:05:08he doesn't cry in front of people like
- 2:05:09he told me one day he cried
- 2:05:14usually one and gets his cry out and
- 2:05:16he's like if I come over
- 2:05:19like
- 2:05:21and I cry don't break up with me I'm
- 2:05:23like
- 2:05:24stupid reason to break up over someone
- 2:05:25you know being erased on his dad who
- 2:05:28doesn't really show emotion it's like a
- 2:05:29don't
- 2:05:30type of thing
- 2:05:32you know
- 2:05:34no offense but
- 2:05:37man I get it sorry George it's okay
- 2:05:44did you know if your mucus is green that
- 2:05:46means you might be
- 2:05:48please remove the screen it was a what
- 2:05:52so I don't know your answer yeah
- 2:05:56so what was Chandler upset about on
- 2:05:58Monday that doctor's appointment the
- 2:06:00doctor's appointment and losing the job
- 2:06:03I'm sure on top of it
- 2:06:06his mom now
- 2:06:09but she did text him on Sunday so how
- 2:06:12did he like how was his demeanor on
- 2:06:14Sunday
- 2:06:16having fun like
- 2:06:19walk around the pool enjoying food
- 2:06:20chatting okay talking with my mom and
- 2:06:23his girlfriend
- 2:06:25playing with the dogs like
- 2:06:27we brought the dogs with us and they
- 2:06:28love running around the farm his dogs no
- 2:06:31your dogs yes okay
- 2:06:33his dogs cannot handle being in a car oh
- 2:06:36okay like Rizzo has to wear a diaper a
- 2:06:39Thundershirt someone has to be like
- 2:06:40holding her
- 2:06:43oh wow like when we were there they're
- 2:06:46like because Mitch was calling the
- 2:06:49family friend to like come over
- 2:06:51I mean they're like can't like a
- 2:06:52neighbor just come take them over to
- 2:06:53their house like no they cannot leave
- 2:06:55the house okay they can go in the
- 2:06:57backyard of the front yard but any other
- 2:06:58setting is gonna be too much
- 2:07:00and Rizzo might like she lunges at
- 2:07:02people and like barks at you but like
- 2:07:04she won't bite you but it looks like
- 2:07:06she's gonna bite you
- 2:07:07like I want the officers obviously about
- 2:07:10that but like
- 2:07:13you know I I've seen a cop shoot a dog
- 2:07:15so
- 2:07:18it just I don't want them to move the
- 2:07:21dogs okay
- 2:07:26do you know when he got the text message
- 2:07:29right it wasn't a call I I think it was
- 2:07:31yeah I believe okay I thought it was
- 2:07:34Saturday he said it was Sunday okay but
- 2:07:39I don't know
- 2:07:42saying that they got to the lake
- 2:07:44so after the text message he was
- 2:07:48enjoying the festivities like talking
- 2:07:51with people yeah in the pool did he
- 2:07:54appear to be happy since he got the text
- 2:07:56message
- 2:07:58yeah okay
- 2:08:00parents texting me okay you were with
- 2:08:02him when you got the text
- 2:08:04I believe so yeah
- 2:08:05you were with him I believe so yeah okay
- 2:08:10no snapchats of that
- 2:08:13okay I think I remember him like saying
- 2:08:16it to me you know you know
- 2:08:18I know it's just Sunday
- 2:08:21when you were at the farm you think I
- 2:08:23think at the farm okay
- 2:08:25um we called Mitchell on Sunday at the
- 2:08:27house
- 2:08:33any reason for his parents uh
- 2:08:36take off and Bash
- 2:08:38it's mom being sick
- 2:08:40that's all I could think
- 2:08:41like I said I can't see them running
- 2:08:43from a lone shark or one of my friends
- 2:08:45was like maybe they robbed a bank in the
- 2:08:4670s and like their person they were
- 2:08:49doing it with was like Hey we're gonna
- 2:08:51get caught let's leave like yeah I mean
- 2:08:53sometimes people are like I want to get
- 2:08:54out of here they have a couple other
- 2:08:56family members help them you know plan
- 2:08:58their disappearance
- 2:09:00so he obviously didn't want you to hold
- 2:09:04on to anything or get rid of anything
- 2:09:05that were his parents or anything no no
- 2:09:09like
- 2:09:11like I said the policy you can't hold
- 2:09:13this or get rid of this no no
- 2:09:21he's very like
- 2:09:24even when he had his apartment and like
- 2:09:26I wandered into one of his roommates
- 2:09:28rooms once he's like no you don't belong
- 2:09:29there you don't go there like that's not
- 2:09:31your space like I've never been in his
- 2:09:33parents room I've never been in like the
- 2:09:34guest bedroom like
- 2:09:37he's like that's not our space you don't
- 2:09:39go in it
- 2:09:40doesn't take her touches parents things
- 2:09:44like except when trying to find clues
- 2:09:46for you guys
- 2:09:49you know sure wouldn't give me anything
- 2:09:51of his parents like run away with
- 2:09:54you know I'd be like why
- 2:10:00I borrowed his mom's hair dryer Sunday
- 2:10:01to dry my hair but that's it
- 2:10:05but it's still there I left it
- 2:10:08you're fine we're not worried about a
- 2:10:10hair dryer and
- 2:10:12bigger things to worry about
- 2:10:14okay
- 2:10:16quick break do you have to use bathroom
- 2:10:18again you good
- 2:10:21you want to make any calls or
- 2:10:24make any calls or
- 2:10:28my friend in Berlin Germany probably
- 2:10:29thinks I'm dead Berlin Germany yeah her
- 2:10:33name is Kira van Sutton she was an
- 2:10:34exchange student in my junior year
- 2:10:37oh no it's seven she's sleeping
- 2:10:47you make me step out for a sec
- 2:10:49unless you're gonna throw shade then I
- 2:10:52prefer to put on my face no we should
- 2:10:54definitely do it in front of you like
- 2:10:55that's just the tick first thing she
- 2:10:58ain't in front of the face of course
- 2:10:59totally honest
- 2:11:01oh Jesus
- 2:12:59foreign
- 2:14:03foreign
- 2:15:21foreign
- 2:19:14foreign
- 2:22:16thank you
- 2:23:44foreign
- 2:23:49foreign
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