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0:00any reason why
0:02it's probably worried you guys are gonna
0:04be like Chandler did it okay do you know
0:06I think that's everyone's fear yeah like
0:08no one wants to be accused of killing
0:10their parents
0:11I'm also I think just a very
0:13understanding person
0:15you know look for the best and
0:16everything good evening ladies and
0:18gentlemen and welcome to Crime circus my
0:21name is Drip Drop and I'll be your host
0:22I'm filling in for baby drip [laughter]
0:25anyways I present to you Chandler
0:28halderson's girlfriend Kat
0:30while she's the former girlfriend now
0:32but she was the girlfriend at the time
0:34that he made both of his [music] parents
0:35pass away in Wisconsin this is her
0:38long-awaited police interview
0:40do you think she was out of Chandler's
0:42League
0:43do you think she's in mine
0:45[laughter]
0:46anyways
0:49we're gonna get to hear what Kat has to
0:50say for herself very soon but make sure
0:53you're subscribed to both of my channels
0:55crime circus [music] and crime circus
0:56cult make sure to leave some comments
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1:00watch these videos
1:03I've got a lot more coming so make sure
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1:07don't miss any future episodes on either
1:09one of my channels
1:11anyways
1:12what do you think a girl like cat saw in
1:15a guy like Chandler
1:17what do you think she'd seen a guy like
1:19me
1:19[laughter]
1:21well let's jump right into this and see
1:23what cat has to say for herself
1:31okay oh there's a Pooh Bear all right
1:34you can play with it don't
1:36want to twist my arm all right
1:38foreign
2:12foreign
3:01let's move on
3:03I thought it was looking more like seven
3:05days
3:06like look at this
3:10I was alive in the 90s so I don't know
3:12but like I thought this was 70.
3:23step feeling keep it kind of colorful
3:26you need to be more colorful than us you
3:28know
3:30this looks like it was around with my
3:32grandpa was around but yeah right that's
3:33exactly
3:42exactly we should leave my wedding
3:43Daylights for Mom
3:46ENT
3:49Chandler's parents their colors were
3:51like green I think but it's okay
3:54it's my chances
3:58like the velvety green yeah it was also
4:00my mom's wearing question
4:02all I have left for my plates I need
4:04them all the way to me
4:07it's supposed to happen
4:19everything's apartment
4:22three
4:31color how many colors you can't it's a
4:33different shape weight and
4:36so you know right
4:50yeah are they just talking to Chandler
4:52first or something I don't know
4:57let's hope his parents are okay
5:01because mom's like
5:05they don't talk about it every Chandler
5:07only tells me things but like
5:09for whatever
5:12when we were there we were like fingers
5:14crossed we're just at the casino blowing
5:16money having fun living life
5:23other night and got like six hundred
5:25dollars her and her fiance
5:27do they go with one here like ocean
5:30oh well they went into Dells no that's a
5:32whole chunk right outside
5:40she's there my mom one-on-one machine
5:42twice I think same one yeah
5:46foreign
6:21foreign
6:52foreign
7:13how are you hi
7:17so this is George he's one of my
7:19partners all right Anthony the one that
7:21you spoke with me yesterday he's off
7:23today so you get George I don't know if
7:26you're hungry two cookies is there
7:27chocolate
7:28one has chocolate one doesn't
7:39I know one sprinkles but you know what I
7:41can put them here if you want it you
7:42want it that one has chocolate this
7:52one because yesterday was just so
7:54fabulous with all of your time stamps on
7:56Instagram or um Snapchat so just in case
8:01there
8:02you go
8:04how was work
8:07I was there for 30 minutes and then
8:08literally you can go oh how come
8:12I'm a very emotional person and like I'm
8:15just worried so I like cry a little bit
8:17like when someone walks with me like hey
8:19are you okay I'm like
8:22and then like I talked to my pharmacist
8:24and she was like
8:25you can go home and then I picked up
8:28some groceries took it to Chandler and
8:29cooked him some food because he wasn't
8:31eating well
8:33oh how come
8:35it's nervous about his parents okay
8:39I can't eat well when I'm nervous so
8:41okay
8:43nibble to cookie baby steps there's some
8:46chocolate in there yeah adjust the
8:48laundry make sure the police aren't
8:49trying to poison me no we're not
8:54I want to be just warnings
8:58have you heard anything about his
8:59parents
9:01no
9:02did you know if his brother made us a
9:03cabin yet I don't know no he's on his
9:06way up yeah she called me when I was in
9:08the car okay how are you guys going up
9:11there no um in the car of like the
9:14Lisa's car oh
9:17yes they're hoping they could uh make
9:19sure the garage door like to get into
9:21the house was unlocked so people can be
9:23with the dog
9:24because I thought just Chandler would
9:25come down here if they needed so I was
9:27there to watch them too how does he
9:29supposed to get to the cabin you know
9:31he left her in like
9:33a little after two I believe and I think
9:35it's around a four hour drive
9:39okay five or six yeah
9:41you don't want you guys to go with or uh
9:44all the dogs yeah the dogs
9:47and his fiance was going with him so
9:50my mom has the same shoes
9:52clothes
9:54yeah they're super comfy bro what about
9:57the pharmacy for too long
9:59they're nice well yesterday I was
10:00wearing my tennis shoes and then I was
10:02like these are actually more comfy so
10:04I just don't know what to be able to
10:05bring so
10:08all right
10:09so
10:10some of it is going to be repeat I just
10:12want to make sure that I'm really
10:14understanding
10:16everything so again give me your
10:18timeline from Thursday
10:22at work
10:24that's when Chandler told me I think it
10:27was Thursday that his parents were going
10:28on up to the cabin
10:31[clears throat] um with some friends so
10:33he was gonna be at the house with the
10:34dogs by himself all weekend
10:37um
10:40went to sleep woke up
10:42got ready for work went to work
10:44um [clears throat]
10:46I we planned that I was gonna go over
10:49there
10:50and spend the night
10:52um just hang out with him and the dogs
10:54because you know there's fireworks and
10:56Rizzo's very scared of dogs and so dogs
10:59okay fireworks yeah
11:03um
11:06but before that I had to stop at two
11:09different targets
11:11to do some grocery pickups and that's
11:14what's Friday yeah
11:16um I stopped at Hilldale
11:18my apartment
11:20then I went to or what time you stopped
11:23your whole deal
11:26got off at five to the Navy about a
11:2920 minute drive from there so maybe like
11:315 20 5 30 yeah in traffic and stuff yeah
11:39store along here
11:41um
11:44um
11:45then I went to my apartment grabbed
11:48clothes and then I grabbed a bunch so I
11:50could do dirty laundry at my mom's house
11:51because
11:53it would be stopping at my mom's at some
11:54point
11:57um
11:59East Target
12:01went to my mom's house
12:03so do you not live with your mom
12:06put an apartment oh I didn't know that I
12:09mentioned it yesterday the chef vlogger
12:12no that's my mom's house okay so then
12:14what is your address
12:16um
12:18110 North Bedford Street it's called
12:21Lark at Cole it's only like a tablet
12:24from
12:26April to July 29th so I won't be there
12:29longer I'm just gonna go back to my
12:30mom's place their department number or
12:32is that 321.
12:35all
12:37my roommates are on the basketball team
12:39for UW yeah uh lovisa
12:43Lexi and Tara lovisa is from Sweden and
12:48she is 6'3
12:50how do you get out of those girls
12:51you know what I got them Subway just got
12:53lucky yeah that's cool the girls set up
12:56from
13:05I'm sorry you said you went to East
13:06Target that you went from Hilldale to
13:08East Target
13:09no from Hilldale to apartment to grab
13:11dirty clothes and clothes
13:14to East to my mom's house
13:18to grab the
13:21hydrogen peroxide and the Swiffer
13:22because Chandler broke the glass of the
13:25fireplace that day and cut his toe so he
13:27wanted to clean that and then clean up
13:29the glass and blood
13:33and then
13:36we had burgers for dinner because he
13:38made me burgers because he burned his
13:39hands on the grill
13:44apartment to get dirty clothes to use
13:46Target to get the Swiffer no no I'm
13:48supposed to get this with her mom's
13:50gonna get this way first then then he's
13:53because I wanted some pickled jalapenos
13:58is that a good snack
14:02um
14:04so then to Chandler's
14:07and then
14:10I was there and then I left
14:13in the morning because you want to do
14:14chores and then
14:16I know what time I around what time I
14:18was home
14:19took a picture
14:21do you know what the chores were
14:23like what does that mean chores like
14:25family usually give some housework like
14:28you know the grass outside the front of
14:30this house usually has to take that to
14:31the dump
14:33um probably
14:35make sure all the remaining glasses up
14:38you know do his laundry
14:40do you know what did he go to the dump
14:42I think he said he went but it was
14:44closed or that they were just closed I
14:46don't know if you drove all the way
14:47there
14:48um
14:49and then
14:53I'm sorry
14:55so on your
14:58um Snapchat do you manually enter your
15:00location or is it just through your
15:02whenever you open SnapChat it has your
15:05location okay yeah unless you turn it
15:07off okay
15:08and so on Saturday
15:13I was with my dog at 8 53 am
15:17so did you see
15:19um the fireplace
15:21what did it look like
15:25broken
15:26it was like one pain I think
15:28on the left side
15:35um
15:38and did you see like the blood in the
15:41glass was that all picked up that's
15:43pretty much all picked up except like a
15:44little bit of glass was still there
15:46um
15:47honestly I didn't see like a lot of
15:50blood but
15:51probably because
15:53it was only a cut on his big toe okay
15:58what is by the fireplace I assume the
16:01blood was by the fireplace
16:02I think so and like see it you know
16:06oh you didn't see the blood no oh
16:14where do you like go in the house
16:17where do you normally like hang out with
16:19Chandler
16:21all the floors like his bedroom that
16:23night we were mostly just in the living
16:25room
16:26so there the bathroom
16:28to the kitchen
16:31second living room his room
16:36like I just don't go what his parents
16:37remember the spare bedroom
16:39and I think
16:42Friday night
16:46I know I didn't shower Friday night I
16:48showered Sunday night I think
16:51so Friday night
16:54slept in the couches
16:57so we could be with the dogs
17:00woke up went to my mom's house to be
17:01with my dogs and because they do the
17:03chores
17:05came over around like
17:07lunch ish time like noon I believe
17:1111 noon time
17:14um
17:18we hung out watched Daybreak on Netflix
17:20because we started that Friday night
17:23watched it
17:24then he laughed around like
17:27before five so maybe like
17:33Maybe
17:34sweet three almost four just before or
17:38five like
17:44straighten my hair
17:46might take about 20 minutes
17:48channel is gone I also did my eyebrows
17:51so that's about another 10 minutes the
17:54eyeliner
17:57I don't want to be like
17:584 20 at the latest is probably when you
18:00left
18:02and Sunday Saturday
18:06so you were getting ready at your house
18:09because we went out with rose remember
18:10Rose and my brother well we as in me and
18:13my brother went with Rose Chandler was
18:15saddest house
18:17um so did you guys meet up at your house
18:19or mom's house my mom's house okay okay
18:21when I say our house I need my mom's
18:23okay I just wanted to make sure yeah
18:27um
18:29and then Rose got there around five and
18:32then we went
18:33it's not really like relevant to the
18:34story but like we went got sancha
18:36downtown walked up to the restaurant on
18:39the Square that was closed we walked
18:41down to Ian's went from Ian's to the
18:45fireworks show I have the picture of my
18:47ticket I'm trying to remember the name
18:48of it
18:50I was at the one at um Christmas the
18:55foods lights at the business
18:58same ticket how was it
19:03was like a 20 minute show they they said
19:06it was supposed to start at 8 30. we sat
19:08there until like 9 30 9 45 before it
19:11went off I heard it was lame yeah is
19:14that there like I feel like my butt
19:16still bruised because we got there on
19:18like
19:197 35
19:22sat there for like two hours
19:24um bleachers
19:25um
19:26then went home
19:29woke up
19:33um Rose and I went to Starbucks and
19:35Panera to pick up bagels and coffee
19:39[clears throat] um this is Sunday now
19:40yes okay so when you say you went home
19:42you went to Mom's your mom's yes okay
19:47um
19:50slept there yes
19:52yep so I want some coffee we're driving
19:54oh um
19:57so
19:59I in the morning for like Starbucks or
20:01like the fireworks show the whole
20:03shebang so okay so Friday
20:05[clears throat] what were you driving
20:06Friday my red Subaru which is under my
20:08mom's name Dolce melinder
20:11um you know the um plates
20:15uh
20:17v e r
20:23I don't know the numbers okay I know
20:25it's ber but if you look inside you can
20:28see dog toys on the like when she was
20:30thing
20:31for my dogs but
20:34[clears throat] um so that and then when
20:37it was like going downtown to get
20:39detention it was
20:41my [clears throat]
20:42brother's car which is a Mazda black
20:49I don't know his plate numbers
20:54and then
20:56when we went to get Starbucks and then
20:58the Panera my Subaru again red Subaru
21:01Forester 2012.
21:08I'm sorry you're good
21:11that
21:13was Sunday right that you went to get
21:15Starbucks in Panera and then what time
21:18do you think that was it
21:20morning
21:22I think you might have a screenshot of
21:23my receipt
21:28went to a Starbucks once and then they
21:30said they never got my order I didn't
21:31have like the receipt so I just take
21:34screenshots of my receipts now
21:36um
21:37what um Starbucks would you go to
21:40East Side one the one by the East Town
21:42Mall okay
21:46I had Stars so it was free
21:49they stopped doing the birthday ones did
21:51they that's evil so my order for Panera
21:55was ready at 9 43 at the time set in the
21:58corner says 9 33 A.M
22:07um
22:08and then
22:10we went back
22:12hung out like had breakfast
22:15Chandler got there around like
22:24Maybe
22:25the area between 12 and 1 ish
22:30because I remember
22:32let me check my call while it's because
22:34he facetimed us while we were in Ross
22:37Dress for Less
22:39getting these shoes popping out with
22:41such a bad shoes
22:43chunky dad shoes
22:46Chandler approved
22:47[clears throat]
22:52and I remember our call dropped many
22:53times
22:56because there is no signal in there
23:06just so I'm feeling right just you and
23:08Rose went to get Starbucks in Panera yep
23:10and then when we like uh yes just her
23:13and I my brother stayed home because he
23:15was smoking ribs
23:17okay [snorts]
23:19I love ribs so then
23:21um
23:22Saturday night the Chandler spend the
23:23night with you at the house nope he was
23:25at his house so he went home yeah okay
23:27yeah and
23:30then
23:33we were at like Ross
23:39I think
23:44112 is what I'm thinking
23:48yes
23:51um because
23:56I'm trying to look Pizza together
24:02yeah
24:03yeah and then I think we were like
24:09that's when he gave me a call
24:14he's because when he arrived
24:17um he was there for like we were all
24:18there for a little bit and then Rose
24:20wanted to go to Ross
24:22and so Chandler stayed in my room to
24:24take a nap because you know his legs
24:26have been having problems so he could do
24:28the walking around thing which is fair
24:32and so
24:34we went from Ross
24:36I have a picture of my receipt from
24:38Marshalls
24:41which is what I took in the car before
24:43we went back to the house
24:47um
24:48and that was taken at 2 14 pm
24:56that was from where Marshalls Marshalls
24:58me
25:00too they have like Calvin Klein stuff in
25:02so I had cop
25:04let's go
25:06did you make a bottle of water do you
25:08drink a bottle of water yeah that was
25:10really fun if you go to the bathroom oh
25:12I went before okay it's literally right
25:13there
25:14just let us know you can go thank you I
25:17will not be on your couches okay I
25:19appreciate that who would [snorts] not
25:20appreciate that
25:23I don't want to disappoint them there
25:24you go it's unfortunately at Marshalls
25:26yes yes and then
25:28from there
25:30um
25:32we went
25:33back to the house
25:35and then so we were kind of like running
25:38behind because like dinner was supposed
25:39to be like around 3 30. and so like
25:41Chandler and I
25:42um
25:44we
25:47got in my car so he could go we drove to
25:51his house so we could let the dogs out
25:54um I think I forgot to mention that to
25:55you that we went to Windsor to take his
25:57dogs out
25:58and then
25:59what time is that anything
26:05well 214 was on the way back to Mark or
26:08from Marshalls on the car yeah Ross
26:12parking lot because we walked to
26:13Marshall
26:13okay so our house is maybe like a 10
26:17minute drive from there and then
26:33but
26:35like we were
26:50can I check my I might have a quick trip
26:52receipt receipt because I went to Quick
26:54Trip when we left his house
26:58if you know what Quick Trip you went to
27:00the one by the roundabouts uh uh in
27:02DeForest Windsor area
27:06you know like the road down the water
27:07tower yep Windsor Road exit quite sure
27:11so that's quick trip all by itself kind
27:12of yeah
27:24McDonald 611.
27:29I think it's Bridal
27:36caves I did not save my receipt
27:40um
27:40but I know we got gas
27:45um
27:48and then from there we went to the farm
27:54and then I have a video of us by the
27:56pool
27:57Farm
28:01after we had dinner I think did you make
28:03dinner at 3 30.
28:12food's good she made crab salad
28:17[clears throat] um
28:21yes on the 4th 5 30 P.M
28:25that is Chandler cleaning the books on
28:27the pool
28:29foreign
28:35why was he wearing a long sleeve shirt
28:37wasn't it like 90m oh he wears long
28:39sleeve shirts
28:40oh he doesn't like t-shirts really oh
28:44wait
28:45wait almost all the pictures were in
28:47he's wearing like a long sleeve
28:49what time is that video
28:585 30. I'm gonna approach all right
29:00you're fine it says right there at the
29:02top and the dates
29:045 30 July 4th
29:09and then
29:12we left around 6 30 because he had to be
29:16home before 8 to feed the dogs their
29:17dinner and
29:19so we left around 6 30 probably got to
29:22like the my mom's house
29:28um there's a garbage or a bathroom
29:31I think it'll look really excessive I
29:33stand up and run out of here it's
29:36not trying to get tackles I'm not going
29:38to tackle you you know if you need to oh
29:42you're good okay so
29:45you left around 6 30 because Chandler
29:47needed to feed the dogs yes did you stay
29:51on Sunday at his house or did you go
29:53okay I stayed with him but
29:55um when we first got to my mom's house
29:58he left right away to go straight to his
29:59house to feed the dogs I got my wet
30:02clothes out of the like a washer because
30:05I was gonna dry my clothes there
30:07and
30:08um
30:10so I did that packed everything I needed
30:12went to his place he threw everything in
30:14the dryer which
30:16doing that separate stuff to hang up so
30:19like we took time to like pull stuff out
30:20and hang it and then we went to
30:23um his mom's co-workers house Dan and he
30:27did some fireworks in the street and we
30:29did that for like maybe an hour and then
30:32went back took a shower
30:36um I blew dry my hair
30:39went back to his house and then went to
30:44bed around like 12 in the morning
30:47because you know fireworks going off
30:49Rizzo's jumping on everything barking
30:52crying poor girl
30:55um
30:56are we stopping on Sunday are we going
30:58on until Tuesday keep on going all right
31:01keep on trucking so I'm doing good so
31:03fine I'll let you keep going
31:06I really try to remember things
31:08[snorts]
31:09um
31:10and then
31:13Sunday woke up got ready
31:16Sunday or Monday Monday sorry
31:20left around
31:237 40 because I took a picture at 733 of
31:27us
31:28she's sleeping no he was awake oh he
31:31just rests his eyes along okay
31:35um
31:37it has long sleeve again
31:40and then I went to work I don't know if
31:43you want to see a picture of me at my
31:44job because I took a picture
31:46in the Hazardous section
31:49being the Hazardous medication
31:51you see that why do you look what shirt
31:53do you have on Billy eilish yeah
31:56it was a sweater over a black T-shirt
31:58he looks super pumped to be at work oh
32:01hazardous is so fun
32:07[clears throat]
32:09so what time is that picture
32:119 16 a.m 9 16 A.M
32:15um and then
32:18after work
32:20I I'm trying to get done with work
32:23so I was working 8 30 to 5. yeah that's
32:27the Hazardous shift we do a rotating
32:30schedule
32:31um get a lunch break
32:33it's a long day you get a 30 minute
32:35lunch break okay 15 minute break if I
32:37choose
32:39take it take a break
32:42we don't have time
32:45um
32:48from there I went to my mom's house
32:54um
32:55because
32:57Chandler went to the farm
32:59because my mom's fiance lets him walk in
33:03the pool because that's one of the
33:04things we did Sunday because it helped
33:06stretch out his legs make him feel
33:08better because I also helped stretch his
33:09legs on Friday
33:12um because he has some like
33:15um
33:16numbness that's the word
33:18and then from its fall he had a couple
33:21weeks back
33:23and
33:24um
33:25so from there he came out from my house
33:28before that I went to McDonald's
33:31so he probably got to my house around
33:33like 7 10 because he'd like be there
33:37because I was in the McDonald's line but
33:38there's a guy screaming at someone in
33:40the window and I took a video of it at
33:42the McDonald's
33:457 14.
33:49wow
33:51that was at Milwaukee Street right yeah
33:54the one your friend liked a lot
33:58um
33:59and then
34:02he ate and then left
34:04let me say it was Princess I said at my
34:06mom's house
34:07woke up went to work I think I have a
34:11picture of what time did he get to your
34:13house on Monday to use the pool
34:16on the farm
34:18let me check my gold record
34:30um so I called him around 502 when I got
34:33off work and I got into my car and I
34:35think he was starting to drive at that
34:37time
34:40um Drive
34:41from The Windsor to the farm farm
34:45okay
34:47that's really sweet cookie
34:51um huh [clears throat] I didn't make it
34:53so
34:56um
34:58there's that and then
35:03I called my mom and the farm
35:06because they weren't answering his calls
35:09and [clears throat] then I think I
35:11finally got a hold of my mom and then my
35:13friend
35:14and then
35:28yeah he was around there it's
35:30seven
35:32705 you might have been close
35:36because we have called 705 that lasts in
35:38four minutes
35:42yes that's something when he was close
35:44and then
35:47you watched and then Tuesday I woke up
35:49went to work
35:51um went back to my mom's house because
35:54he wanted to come over and I was gonna
35:55cook his pork chops boy mom changed
35:57everyone's mind because she really
35:58wanted Buffalo Wild Wings the thing we
36:00do with Chandler is buy one get one and
36:01we do two orders of that so we get like
36:0360 wings
36:08um so we did that
36:10and then [clears throat] Chandler
36:12watched Legally Blonde with us and I
36:13remember there was a storm happening
36:18so he went to Mom's after work
36:21it's easier because it's like
36:24halfway between the apartment and his
36:25house
36:26okay so from moms then we went to the
36:29farm
36:31right is that what you said no on Monday
36:34he went from the farm to Mom's house and
36:36then Tuesday we didn't go to the farm
36:40okay so Tuesday you were at Mom's house
36:42Tuesday mom's house Chandler was he
36:44there already he wasn't there before I
36:47got there okay what time did Chandler
36:49get there
37:03maybe like
37:05six
37:14there
37:16was a storm happening while he was there
37:18at 802 so you probably left like
37:22later like maybe 8 30 is when you left
37:33yeah I think that's probably about right
37:36yeah because the video is from 802.
37:39and then he was in the bathroom at that
37:40point
37:42I remember because he takes like 20
37:44minutes in the bathroom
37:54we hung out yesterday
37:56wasn't I
37:58did you go over to Taylor's on Wednesday
38:00no we hung out I know but did after you
38:03and I had our Epic no I went to my
38:06friend Danny's
38:08um I told you how I went to hang out
38:10with Danny his girlfriend Abigail works
38:12at David's Bridal so I met them there
38:15um
38:16and then we went and got dinner at
38:20Guadalajara
38:22it was close to downtown
38:23and then we went back to their condo and
38:25I stayed on their Foods on because they
38:27didn't think it was a good idea for me
38:28to
38:29go to my apartment and just lay there
38:30alone
38:33um
38:35let's work today for only 30 minutes
38:39finally 30.
38:4130s crying okay
38:45I'm an emotional person that's what
38:47you're crying about
38:49my boyfriend's parents are missing like
38:51I I think it's more concerning if I
38:53wasn't concerned I'm a very emotional
38:55person like I cry enough for both of us
38:57is like what I like to say sure like
39:01it's like
39:02I hang out with the family often you
39:05know
39:09there's parents they're important like
39:12I hang out with them we play Mario Kart
39:14his mom makes a toad sound every time
39:16she selects toad no Yoshi the Yoshi's
39:19room
39:20that's
39:22exactly how she does it
39:24um
39:25lose every time but like
39:30like I I don't know I just don't
39:32understand how you couldn't like
39:34be worried or emotional I know I mean
39:39that's why we're here we're worried yeah
39:42they're worried
39:43as is how's Chandler been
39:47like I said he's not really he expresses
39:51it in a different way it's
39:53not like
39:55the biggest emotional person but like
40:00I guess like when I look at him it's
40:01different when other people look at him
40:03like I can tell it's really hard on him
40:05and like
40:07he just sits there and Associates and
40:09like
40:11paces and like
40:15you know just sits there you're like
40:17where are my parents like a shell and
40:19like when his brother was over like
40:22what was that
40:24they left around like today yeah
40:28before they went to the cabin they left
40:29around like like two-ish they're like 20
40:32minutes on balance but like he's
40:34following his big brother around
40:36like subtle things like most people
40:37don't notice but like dating him for a
40:39while
40:40what was um what was initial doing there
40:43at the house just looking around the
40:45house looking for anything Chandler
40:46missed and like grabbing the spare keys
40:49to go up to the cabin or keys that
40:50Chandler found in his dad's car that
40:52they think are the spare keys to the
40:54cabin
40:56um
40:59I talked for a while
41:01Chandler told him about his light
41:03numbness and how he's been going to the
41:05farm and like doing circles in the pool
41:07to like help with that it's like PT
41:11and how I've been stretching them and
41:15so he was following his brother around
41:16the house today just pacing upset
41:22away if you
41:24like just showing his his brother like
41:27hey like maybe like in their dressers I
41:30didn't find anything but like so you
41:31know what this male could mean pretty
41:33much I stayed on the couch and I didn't
41:35want to like
41:37intrude in a way like I've only been
41:40dating him for almost two years and like
41:42his fiancee's been dating hymns for like
41:45six you know like
41:48what did he start using the pool to work
41:50his legs out has it been going on for a
41:52while no Sunday I'm sure it was Sunday
41:54yeah okay because he was in his Braves
41:56until Thursday
42:00and his parents really wouldn't let him
42:02do things yeah
42:04you really put on the stairs so
42:06very protective
42:14I'm sure I think we're gonna have
42:15something
42:16um
42:17no I I think you did already so
42:24hydrated hydrate that's what I hear
42:29so his brother is there today he leaves
42:32to go to the cabin yeah what's
42:36um what does Chandler want to do does he
42:38want to stay in Madison does he want to
42:40go up to Canada and help his brother
42:42which is
42:43what's he thinking
42:45I asked him that when I was like ouch I
42:47was like why why don't we go up to the
42:49cabin because like his fiance and him
42:51were gone is like well I can't drive I'm
42:53like well I could have drove he's like
42:57yeah you could have he's like but I
43:00don't know if they need me in Madison
43:01for questions which clearly you guys did
43:05and [clears throat] like and I also need
43:07to be with the dogs
43:09he's like and you need to be with the
43:10dogs because
43:12you know
43:13they they have a harder time with
43:15Caitlyn because she's not around the
43:17past much
43:18so
43:21that was his reasoning and then
43:25before Mitch came I cooked some pork
43:26chops and like brussels sprouts
43:30and then after that
43:34um
43:35before Mitch came we showered and then
43:38Mitch came and then he left and then I
43:41think he went to his neighbors to see if
43:42they had like
43:44any like a ring camera and if there's
43:46like four footage that might have caught
43:48the car and they said they already
43:49handed over to the police when he came
43:51back and I was in the backyard playing
43:52frisbee with the dogs
43:54and then we went inside and watched New
43:56Girl
43:57and then he saw the police outside he
44:00said hey I'm gonna go talk to them to
44:01ask if I can still get my mail in the in
44:04the mail because I guess there was like
44:06a ticket thing no mail or something like
44:08that I don't know explaining that
44:11I don't know anything about that
44:16that's weird
44:19how was he when he came back from the
44:20neighbor's house after checking for the
44:22ring
44:24he was like
44:26I don't know I guess a little relieved
44:28so if they had a camera and they already
44:29handed it over to the police we're like
44:32he's really concerned about his parents
44:33okay
44:36you know every son's like my parents
44:39know any but like there's parents like
44:42they do dinners all the time together
44:43like every holiday they're doing a
44:46dinner Father's Day Mother's Day they're
44:48all together like Easter they don't
44:52really even celebrate Easter that much
44:53but there's parents make sure they have
44:55Easter baskets for everyone
44:58um
44:59like
45:02so he has a good relationship with Mom
45:04and Dad
45:06right and like doesn't want to hang out
45:08with his parents parents he'd rather
45:09video game on his computer
45:12sure
45:14when we play board games he's like more
45:16reserved you know like
45:19not like shouting out jokes but like he
45:23you know has one-liners in there sure as
45:26they call them
45:28um
45:30like
45:32pee fishes in his backyard with his dad
45:35that's why one of the reasons why I
45:36bought the house so they could fish in
45:37the backyard
45:44it's a good relationship nothing no
45:45problems that you know of between the
45:47three of them
45:48I mean he owed the money but he paid
45:51them back I told you that already
45:54um and that's why I was allowed over
45:55during the weekend but [clears throat]
45:57other than that
45:59that's like the only time I've really
46:02seen the big problem with them I guess
46:04so what did Chandler so Chandler said he
46:06you said he called you Thursday to let
46:08you know like hey my parents are going
46:10to the cabin I'm gonna be home alone
46:12with the dogs I think he snapped me that
46:15and then like we facetimed later okay
46:19he snapped you that
46:21you know like Snapchat yep no no I get
46:23it I just don't know I'm not a snapper
46:28well tell me he's happy with that I'm
46:30telling me snap you that do you remember
46:32ish guesstimate after five no I was off
46:37work last week I know five I closed I
46:40was room temp shipping okay
46:43all right yeah
46:46so before you said
46:48um that the dogs the
46:50the dogs are more comfortable with you
46:52than Mitch's okay fiancee Caitlyn just
46:56because you're around more yeah I'm like
46:59I'm there almost all the time like
47:02I hang out with him and his parents like
47:05like I told you how like I wasn't over
47:08for like two weeks pretty much but like
47:10I was still there having root beer
47:11floats with them that one time
47:13like I cooked them Mexican traditional
47:16food before because my mom's an
47:18immigrant
47:19like
47:20I'm just there often if I'm not there
47:23he's hanging out with me and like
47:25maybe we won't hang out like two three
47:28days a week it's very variant it depends
47:31on like if we're doing stuff with our
47:32families or if we have other plans but
47:35like like I said I played Mario Kart
47:37with his mom and dad
47:42now with them sometimes just
47:44on
47:46so what was the whole two-week thing why
47:48weren't you allowed without owing money
47:49thing so did he how did that come about
47:52why was that a big deal because I
47:55thought yesterday you said that he's old
47:58for like rant and Christmas presents and
48:00stuff like that so why was it that was
48:02two weeks yeah because like he was
48:04working uh for American Family at the
48:06time
48:07and like they just there's like problems
48:10with HR and how they weren't like paying
48:12him and like it was like they sent it in
48:14the mail sent it to like not his address
48:16so he was like please cancel that check
48:18then he like tried getting them to like
48:20deposit it and then at that point they
48:22owed him like a couple thousand dollars
48:24because they were so far behind and then
48:26I guess the company that they sent money
48:28through was like this doesn't seem legit
48:30they thought it was a scam and so his
48:32parents are like
48:34you got to give us that money because we
48:36know you'd have money
48:38but and so
48:40yeah then he paid them
48:43and it was just those two weeks that
48:44were like you had like strict
48:47okay which is weird because like
48:50his mom's like don't be spending money
48:51because you owe us money but they're not
48:53real like really
48:55he said it wasn't really his mom is more
48:57of his dad like on him but his dad's
48:59also an accountant so I'm kind of
49:01understanding okay to be rude with y'all
49:04appreciate that
49:10so for the two weeks was that when he
49:13hurt his back when he fell yeah it
49:15pretty much started like right after he
49:17fell
49:18because like
49:22they can just say cat can't come over
49:24it was a part of like the recovery and
49:26like hey you pay us back
49:28like
49:29because he had to
49:31he fell down the stairs he just had
49:33twice bruised his ribs had to wear like
49:34a neck brace they were obviously
49:36concerned and didn't want him doing the
49:37lawn
49:39so
49:40I think his dad was I don't know I think
49:42I don't know if he drove him to the
49:44hospital or
49:46um [clears throat]
49:47called an ambulance I think I have a
49:49picture of them together there
49:53sorry my brother's calling me
50:09he was asking what's happening because I
50:11told them I had to go downtown for
50:12questions and he's a cop in St Louis so
50:14he's like
50:15I'm gonna kill my sister
50:24because she was texting me about it
50:28do you know when he fell
50:30yes June 17th after before 1 42 because
50:35that's
50:36wrong time's picture was taken
50:42he was just going on the series and fell
50:44he
50:45also is telling him to hurry up to his
50:46computer so he was running down
50:49stairs with socks classic
50:52yeah
50:55and so
50:56here he is in all of Glory
51:00um
51:06yeah and then like
51:07the day before that I was having
51:09problems because I had like a tailbone
51:11cyst and so Wednesday I was over at the
51:13house and it's taking care of me
51:17and then he felt Thursday and I went to
51:19Urgent Care again Friday to get it
51:20drained
51:25I don't recommend it no it sounds
51:27horrible
51:28painful I could barely walk even lay
51:32down
51:34[clears throat]
51:36that was
51:38what which Thursday was that so
51:41the 17th is a Thursday so the 18th she
51:45had her cyst drained yes
51:49calendar and then the 16th is the
51:52Wednesday I went to Urgent Care and he
51:54was taking care of me
52:05so let me ask you a weird question with
52:06him falling he probably was going on the
52:08computer but any kind of Bounce in the
52:10house
52:11no
52:13his dad was downstairs at his computer
52:15he was telling me about like Harry
52:17Chandler fall he was like that's not my
52:19computer it didn't sound bad and then
52:22like I got up to like check after a
52:23while and like he was on the floor and I
52:25was like
52:26okay Mr Alderson sure yeah
52:31yeah he hasn't said anything about it
52:33afterwards like hey I really
52:36like
52:37I didn't I didn't just slip on my socks
52:40I actually you know Chandler's clumsy
52:43okay it is not the first time he has
52:45fallen
52:46he needs like a Life Alert look
52:50I've seen one of his many
52:58many yeah it's really weird
53:00it's a good type of weird
53:04with his 11.5 shoes yeah with the
53:06flippers from swimming
53:11um did he borrow your car at all
53:13this weekend
53:17not that I recall each drove his dad's
53:19car which is also a Subaru I think it's
53:21a crash track
53:23so before he said he couldn't go out to
53:26the cabin because he couldn't drive but
53:28he's been driving all weekend
53:30it's a four hour drive though okay
53:32that's different okay
53:34a 30 minute at most drive to my house
53:38like I would drive I drove all of us to
53:40the farm
53:41so what's his thought process why can't
53:43he drive is it just the numbness okay
53:46like it's risk he doesn't want to crash
53:48the car okay sure like
53:51conscious on other drivers like okay
53:53something were to happen he hits another
53:54car I don't think he'd live with itself
53:56like okay
53:57some medical reason basically pretty
53:59much yeah
54:03how [snorts] did his doctor's
54:04appointment go on Monday
54:06or Tuesday not the Monday okay not the
54:09best
54:10[clears throat] um
54:11told them like
54:14a
54:15stuttering will go away but like the
54:17numbness is gonna like stay you know
54:20because like he hit his head twice they
54:22said like the numbness was from like a
54:23hemorrhage or something
54:25and
54:27that's when he talked to his HR and he
54:30was like I had to be honest with them
54:31and that's how he lost the SpaceX job
54:39may I go pee yeah
54:41she'll leave my phone you can do
54:44whatever if you need to you know where
54:45the bathroom is right or
54:47like right there
55:10good
55:14wait and see if I was gonna run no no we
55:17actually stepped out
55:19um what I cannot go far oh you're fine I
55:23wasn't able to run today
55:26so your mom is requesting that you just
55:29kind of give her a call like let her
55:32know that you're safe I text her while I
55:34was in the bathroom oh you were okay a
55:36center eight two texts okay she get back
55:39to you no okay so yeah if you want to
55:42call Mom you're totally welcome to
55:44just I know your mom is probably worried
55:47sick
55:51okay she's gonna just cry at me for a
55:54couple hours he'll be here for a bit
55:55okay it's up to you I mean I sent her a
55:58text and I also texted my brother to let
56:00him know where I am and what's happening
56:02okay the one that's a cop okay in St
56:05Louis okay so you're St Louis
56:07Missouri I know where it is
56:11I don't know sometimes we go see how
56:13late
56:14Milwaukee but they're in the suburbs or
56:15something so I don't know if he's in The
56:17Burbs
56:18or the city the suburbs or the city city
56:21it's cool what does he do
56:24well I didn't know if like he was a
56:26patrol cop if he was like in the schools
56:29you know like I think
56:31drives around
56:33takes calls like his partner got shot
56:36the other day yeah
56:38so how long has it been a cop down there
56:41since March
56:47I have like
56:48send me text it was like it was like
56:49first week I don't know if you want to
56:51hear it
56:52almost my mom
56:54oh she answered you no I was just in her
56:57text
56:59geez well since March yeah so you just
57:03finished the academy assume um and it
57:05was extended because of like
57:08um covid so you just got on the street
57:19you want to be in Salem
57:21St Louis why yeah [clears throat]
57:24he eventually wants to come back to
57:25Madison and who's more experienced than
57:27Compton St Louis back in Madison
57:29Resume Builder Big Time yeah
57:35all right
57:37so let's go back to pre-fall
57:42foreign so
57:45how was Chandler's demeanor before the
57:47fall
57:48versus now
57:51I mean
57:53upbeat you know
57:55excited to be working for SpaceX
57:59like super
58:01like Mitch got he found out he had
58:03diabetes like he went to the emergency
58:05room like the Friday before Candler fell
58:08and I got my tailbone
58:09and like his blood sugar was like
58:11dangerously High you know
58:13and then like they released them from
58:15the hospital that
58:17Sunday
58:18and so like he was worried about that
58:20because like you know his brother
58:22could have died got diagnosed with
58:24diabetes super late
58:26um so really worried around that time
58:28and stressed and like
58:31you know
58:33being Chandler I don't think a person
58:35has the same emotions every day
58:37just
58:42you know
58:44gaming
58:46he does this thing where like he screen
58:49shares his video game with me while I go
58:52to sleep
58:53so I can go to sleep easier and he just
58:55like explains the game and talks it out
58:56and like just to help me fall asleep
59:00um what game talk off
59:03escape from turkoff
59:06I have no idea what that is it's a
59:08computer game okay
59:10[clears throat] um
59:13so that was going fine like
59:16weekend before his friend drove up from
59:18Kansas to visit him
59:25Chandler
59:27how is his um childhood
59:32favorite talk to you about it
59:35I mean he grew up
59:38I think until like elementary school he
59:40was in Madison then [clears throat] they
59:42went to Sheboygan area by Plymouth
59:47went to Columbus High School went to
59:49States for swimming
59:51um swimming since a kid that's why he
59:53has flipper feet
59:54did soccer his mom has five photo album
59:57of each kid
1:00:00um mom was a stay-at-home mom so she
1:00:02traveled to every swim meet every soccer
1:00:04game every school event she was there
1:00:07helped me the t-shirts and the Flyers
1:00:11like
1:00:14Eagle Scout
1:00:16Boy Scout
1:00:18went to prom with Miss Wisconsin
1:00:21oh well yeah popular kid
1:00:27any
1:00:28um hunting
1:00:30but you know
1:00:31or thinking hunting like maybe Boy
1:00:34Scouts okay he was a lifeguard
1:00:37um
1:00:38he was a boy scout like leader Camp
1:00:41leader
1:00:42um
1:00:43he would play Taps at funerals
1:00:46um is whatever that
1:00:49beautiful troll
1:00:51Trump I think so it's not the one with
1:00:54buttons yeah yeah
1:00:57play Taps for them
1:00:59um
1:01:01and that was all through Boy Scouts
1:01:04I think he might have done that through
1:01:05band he did
1:01:07I have the funniest photo of him from
1:01:09high school they have like you know how
1:01:11some supplies Jazz fans he had German
1:01:14banned and so they made them wear later
1:01:16Hudsons
1:01:22this is one of the many photos in his
1:01:23photo album
1:01:24Baby Chandler
1:01:26toddler like early Chandler
1:01:32um Chandler's classes because he roasted
1:01:35me for wearing bifocals
1:01:37um the worst context that I'm a swimming
1:01:39yeah
1:01:57it's really funny and I really want to
1:01:58find it
1:02:00here it is
1:02:03call this later hosen Chandler thanks
1:02:06[snorts]
1:02:07and then this is him at one of his swim
1:02:10meets
1:02:16like
1:02:19I think he was in like Honor Society or
1:02:21something in high school
1:02:23very
1:02:25active he was cogsworth and Beauty and
1:02:28the Beast in Middle School
1:02:29score really yeah because Mom's supposed
1:02:32to show me the video
1:02:33she promised
1:02:35grab holder to it there you go
1:02:40um did he ever talk about like how I was
1:02:43punished
1:02:44did he get a lot of time out spankings
1:02:49um
1:03:05so I'm trying to remember if he
1:03:07mentioned it I'll be fine
1:03:10foreign
1:03:15maybe he would just study at the table
1:03:17and his dad would help him he'd like get
1:03:19yelled at if he got too many wrong or
1:03:21something like that
1:03:23um
1:03:27so you mentioned that he was Honor
1:03:29Society very active dad would yell if
1:03:32you got to me wrong was there a lot of
1:03:33pressure on him
1:03:35I guess what about now
1:03:43it's like normal parent pressure like
1:03:44they just want him to be the best person
1:03:45he can be okay you don't see anything
1:03:48like it abnormal like he's not like
1:03:50Jesus my parents do
1:03:52I mean his ideals at McDonald's
1:03:54drive-through workers a lot
1:03:57and Mike
1:03:58whenever his mom gets home she
1:04:01always wants to know about his day how's
1:04:03your day going Chandler go sits in his
1:04:05room on his bed like while he's doing
1:04:07something I was like I'm
1:04:10he'll cut them dinner often because he's
1:04:12a really good cook he cooks for me too
1:04:16like just not grilling just not good at
1:04:19grilling no it's never used that I think
1:04:21that was the third time he said he used
1:04:22that girl I was like why didn't you just
1:04:24tell me you've never grilled before
1:04:26but you can like make a shrimp scampi
1:04:29out of scratch like
1:04:31if he has what he needs he can make it
1:04:41yes they're on him for like yeah you got
1:04:44to help us with housework you got any
1:04:45chores but it lives with them so
1:04:49it's fair yeah
1:04:51yeah helping out around the house like a
1:04:53normal child
1:04:56do they have a pickup truck
1:04:58take up truck well you mentioned earlier
1:05:01that he would do chores like going to
1:05:02the dump oh but with that in the
1:05:04Volkswagen or his dad's um Forester it's
1:05:07not it might be a cross track okay but
1:05:11they just put what they need in the cars
1:05:13that they have they don't have a trailer
1:05:14or anything no okay
1:05:17I think it's
1:05:22it's I'm not sure I'm not really
1:05:24involved in those chores okay
1:05:32did he go to the dump Saturday Saturday
1:05:35yeah but holiday weekend so yeah
1:05:40do you know does he go to the dump in
1:05:42Madison
1:05:45maybe the DeForest one because they live
1:05:48in Windsor to Forest
1:05:51[clears throat] um
1:05:51bad usually goes them and so does his
1:05:53mom they usually make a trip out of it
1:05:55stop by quick trip on the way home and
1:05:56grab soda his mom really likes QuikTrip
1:05:59there's a lot of people that love
1:06:00QuikTrip she has an obsession like
1:06:04when I tell you like if okay there's
1:06:06like I think it was around like
1:06:08Thanksgiving when Mitch and Caitlyn were
1:06:10leaving the next day
1:06:12she like looked there she's like
1:06:14my babies are gone and I'm like I'm
1:06:16sorry and like before then I told you
1:06:18I'm like if your mom asked to go on a
1:06:19quick trip run you have to say yes she's
1:06:22like do you guys want to go to Quick
1:06:23Trip and I was like it's like okay
1:06:27because he gets dragged a quick trip
1:06:29yeah she goes there for soda she goes
1:06:31there for snacks she even looked at
1:06:33their meat section because in case she
1:06:35couldn't get to my mom
1:06:38come on
1:06:41yeah I'm with Liz and George George
1:06:49I'm fine Mom
1:06:51they're just asking questions I'm not
1:06:53I'm not being interrogated right no just
1:06:55asking me questions asking questions so
1:06:57I can leave whenever I want to
1:07:03I'm fine
1:07:06all right
1:07:08I'm not mad
1:07:12I'm tired yes
1:07:17but I'd rather answer the questions so
1:07:20they can help find Mr and Mrs halderson
1:07:22I think that's a little more important
1:07:23than an app
1:07:25well if I'm here now I can answer
1:07:26questions now
1:07:30okay
1:07:33love you too Mom
1:07:36my car is at Chandlers
1:07:42no they took us in squad cars
1:07:49yeah
1:07:50I met Lisa you remember when I was in
1:07:52Steel Magnolias the play
1:07:55so this cop was also in Steel Magnolias
1:07:58twice because she was a theater major
1:08:03yeah she was the pregnant hairdresser
1:08:06and then Shelby the girl who dies sorry
1:08:09for the spoilers
1:08:10nope got it I watched it seen it
1:08:19yeah yeah and they she's heard of
1:08:22Grandpa John
1:08:25yeah
1:08:28um they also gave me a cookie one had
1:08:30chocolate so they tried to poison me at
1:08:32some point
1:08:33my mom knows now George
1:08:36tell Mom I did not let you eat the
1:08:38cookie
1:08:39okay Mom I love you
1:08:42I don't think so
1:08:45I don't think you should friend a
1:08:46detective she said she's Mexican and she
1:08:49can throw a chocolate very well
1:08:52okay I love you Mom
1:08:58I am Pro
1:08:59I think the plan is Chandler and I are
1:09:02gonna get dinner
1:09:07if not like I'll probably cook or it's
1:09:10getting pretty late so we don't want to
1:09:12go to the farm for food
1:09:17I know but it's late and we don't want
1:09:18to drive through the dark it's a deer
1:09:19season
1:09:21okay I gotta I'm Gonna Let You
1:09:25I'm probably gonna stay with Chandler
1:09:27mom
1:09:32no
1:09:37yeah my pharmacists know the situation
1:09:40[clears throat] and they said if I'm not
1:09:42going to be able to work there's no
1:09:44point of me being there
1:09:46not like a mean way like uh I should
1:09:48probably take care of myself
1:09:51and be with Chandler yeah
1:09:55I am
1:09:58I am
1:10:00okay love you love you okay love you too
1:10:03okay bye love you
1:10:10did you hear what I mean when I'm on the
1:10:11phone with her for a couple hours
1:10:13it seems like she cares I mean she's mom
1:10:17Channel Trump is pretty much the exact
1:10:19same way yeah yeah
1:10:21we talk about my mom's dog muffin we
1:10:23were talking about how it looks like an
1:10:24Ewok oh really yeah
1:10:27without you
1:10:30so obviously you're a big Star Wars fan
1:10:33there's a family like I collect the
1:10:35action figures do you I have the limited
1:10:37edition if you choose like I love Star
1:10:38Wars
1:10:39do you like the new one the Mandalorian
1:10:41oh the Mandalorian yes
1:10:43this sequels
1:10:47um
1:10:48I don't know anything about it I'll be
1:10:50honest I haven't never seen the Star
1:10:52Wars movie ever I thought you thought
1:10:54you're just talking no there's people
1:10:56that in my house that are obsessed with
1:10:58it so I
1:11:00all about the Mandalorian and the I
1:11:03thought it was a baby Yoda but I guess
1:11:04it's not Yoda yeah the same species
1:11:07named grogu yeah see there's a muffin my
1:11:09mom's dog
1:11:11pretty much this holder so now I just
1:11:13talked about how he looks like an ewok
1:11:16yes
1:11:18[clears throat] um
1:11:21and this is from when his friend from
1:11:23Kansas visited on the 12th this is a
1:11:27photo with his dad Smith Chandler and
1:11:30myself breakfast
1:11:33his mom took it his mom's more of the
1:11:35picture taker than being in photos
1:11:38sure
1:11:44so how after the [clears throat] fall
1:11:45then
1:11:46did he say the same upbeat and happy all
1:11:48the time or do you think there was a
1:11:49little bit of a change I mean he was
1:11:51tired he has had like
1:11:56had because like
1:11:58infected obviously space-time someone
1:12:00who wants to be down there in Florida
1:12:03sure
1:12:07um I have an emotional stomach
1:12:09I'm sorry and um
1:12:11like he obviously lost his job on Monday
1:12:14so it's like he's doing his best
1:12:16to work up to going and like showing he
1:12:19can still work for him but
1:12:21you know
1:12:24it's just hard fell down didn't want to
1:12:26lose his job
1:12:29frustrated
1:12:31I like
1:12:33still FaceTime talk
1:12:35my other jokes
1:12:36not
1:12:38like I hate life
1:12:42everyone better you know yeah
1:12:45not like a switch like Jeffrey Dahmer
1:12:48yeah yeah
1:12:51tell me about Florida
1:12:53so that's where SpaceX was that's where
1:12:55he was supposed to go
1:12:57what was the plan
1:13:00go down there
1:13:02YouTube
1:13:04okay so what did that mean
1:13:07because obviously you have a job here so
1:13:09did you have a job lined up we're just
1:13:12gonna transfer to
1:13:14I'm not trying to say a few but like Fu
1:13:16Florida University because they also
1:13:18have a pharmacy school down there
1:13:24so I'm getting Facebook notifications
1:13:25because people are reposting the Dane
1:13:27County Sheriff's like notice about them
1:13:30and
1:13:31we've just been messaging people and
1:13:33like
1:13:34people have been noticing they're like
1:13:36hey are you guys okay and we're just
1:13:37selling them repost or tell people sure
1:13:41um
1:13:42yeah
1:13:43okay she's gonna go down there did you
1:13:45guys have like everything lined up like
1:13:48when were you supposed to
1:13:51um
1:13:51he was supposed to leave the Saturday of
1:13:54the Fall so happened on Thursday Friday
1:13:57supposedly Saturday morning
1:14:00and then
1:14:01I was gonna leave at the end or middle
1:14:03of August because
1:14:05I want to be here for my birthday oh
1:14:08it's a big one 2 000 yeah
1:14:11Gonna Get Crunk
1:14:16yep
1:14:20oh [snorts]
1:14:21shoot
1:14:22what's wrong it broke oh
1:14:26my heart
1:14:27Okay so
1:14:30did you guys have like a place that you
1:14:31were gonna like did you have everything
1:14:34kind of figured out
1:14:35where are we gonna say
1:14:37just like apartment building in
1:14:38Titusville okay did he like already sign
1:14:41the lease and stuff
1:14:43I think so
1:14:47you say Titusville Titusville Florida
1:14:49that were the
1:14:51school is space-time space the schools
1:14:55in Orlando but it's like an hour drive
1:14:57from Orlando and how we're driving
1:14:58nothing
1:15:00nope
1:15:02because she didn't go like maybe
1:15:04like normal like it's like the 55 here
1:15:08yeah like
1:15:11excited like
1:15:14you want to save up for a boat because
1:15:15he loves fishing
1:15:19um
1:15:22want to get a year pass at Disney
1:15:25got a universal
1:15:28so like obviously it's kind of hard
1:15:30after like finding out like oh that's
1:15:33probably jeopardized and then it was so
1:15:39is he being interviewed too or is he
1:15:41dumb I honestly I'm with you so I don't
1:15:44know
1:15:45you have my attention
1:15:47so there you go
1:15:49there you go
1:15:52didn't even have time to change my fuzzy
1:15:54thoughts Ah that's all right they look
1:15:56they just look cozy
1:15:58my feet are sweating you can take your
1:16:00shoes off
1:16:01if they don't stop if they think it's
1:16:03not gonna be good for the room all
1:16:04[laughter] right then we'll just leave
1:16:06them on I appreciate that
1:16:09all right so yesterday when we talked
1:16:13um you said that you showered with him
1:16:16Sunday to save the environment stay in
1:16:20the environment was there any other day
1:16:21that you showered together today save
1:16:24the environment okay we wash each
1:16:26other's hair you know
1:16:28okay so you showered Sunday I can tell
1:16:31[laughter]
1:16:33the day which is Thursday yeah
1:16:40and so yesterday you said or yeah
1:16:42yesterday you said that your sex life is
1:16:44pretty normal you know he's whatever
1:16:47yeah we talk about everything that we do
1:16:49beforehand like that something makes us
1:16:52upset we're like oh
1:16:53um let's not do that and they're like
1:16:55okay like
1:16:59doesn't hit me
1:17:00like if I was like slap me he would like
1:17:02be like um
1:17:05okay like that's something he's not
1:17:06comfortable with Okay
1:17:08um [clears throat]
1:17:11um super personal
1:17:12um have you guys had sex this weekend
1:17:28maybe once Sunday
1:17:31okay
1:17:33but you're not sure
1:17:35yeah it was but I know it was once okay
1:17:38yeah
1:17:39so one time this weekend
1:17:42is that pretty normal
1:17:44we usually do it more but like you know
1:17:46we are busy okay like tired
1:17:49um
1:17:51I'm not gonna do it today his parents
1:17:53are missing yeah like
1:17:58he was upset Monday Tuesday we're with
1:18:01my family
1:18:03why was he upset on Monday
1:18:06because he loves the job okay
1:18:14it was Sunday
1:18:26and Friday
1:18:28and Friday and Friday yeah
1:18:57I don't think it was Sunday was probably
1:18:59just Friday because he got lightheaded
1:19:01at the end of it
1:19:04like because having a hard time
1:19:07shaking his head too much and his legs
1:19:09were like really tired okay
1:19:12um so you said that normally you guys
1:19:15said you had sex more but it was a busy
1:19:17weekend busy weekend like he got
1:19:19lightheaded that one time and his legs
1:19:21were numb like not meant for some
1:19:25I'm like
1:19:26are you guys normally like what is your
1:19:28normal sex life I guess are you pretty
1:19:31like every time you see each other yeah
1:19:33like within reason for like hanging out
1:19:36with our families obviously not gonna go
1:19:38sneak off like all right but usually
1:19:41every time we hang out maybe once or
1:19:43twice okay
1:19:45and then
1:19:47um
1:19:48what was the sex life on or sex like on
1:19:51Friday
1:19:52is it normal normal other than him being
1:19:56like
1:19:57you know
1:20:00pass Audi and leg tingly
1:20:08okay
1:20:12normal duration or did everything get
1:20:14cut short
1:20:16normal duration okay
1:20:24thank
1:20:26you
1:20:28I was gonna try and shoot it but I
1:20:29didn't want to embarrass myself
1:20:37um so you've been at the house during
1:20:39the renovations obviously there's
1:20:42um a lot going on at the house
1:20:44what is um what is the smell like in the
1:20:47house
1:20:49dog okay
1:20:52like when they were working on the
1:20:54basement walls you could like kind of
1:20:56smell the dusty okay now
1:20:59um
1:21:00there's a fiery smell on Friday because
1:21:03when he broke the
1:21:06um when glass thing on the fireplace
1:21:09like ash
1:21:10was like an exposed yeah okay
1:21:17okay any other thing that you can smell
1:21:20or remember smelling
1:21:23Ash I was like it smells like a fire
1:21:26so maybe by extension grilling okay
1:21:39so before you said that there's no air
1:21:41conditioning was only in love kitchen so
1:21:45was that on during the weekend is that
1:21:48you were there
1:21:49not really no windows were open fans
1:21:53were on okay he like if the dogs are
1:21:55really struggling like he'll turn it on
1:21:57for him and they lay underneath it
1:21:59because you know their border caught
1:22:00these long hairs so
1:22:02they love rolling in the snow so it's
1:22:04summertime
1:22:07um
1:22:09so but during the weekend
1:22:11mostly open window and fans okay
1:22:14I didn't know if that changed with the
1:22:16Fourth of July weekend
1:22:18um
1:22:20like when the fireworks are getting too
1:22:22loud they've just closed the window but
1:22:24leave fans on
1:22:26um
1:22:27today was literally the coldest it's
1:22:29been since like winter for me there
1:22:32because it's been a chilly day he had
1:22:34all the windows going
1:22:35all the fans on trying to blow it all in
1:22:37okay yeah
1:22:40has he been helping with the renovation
1:22:41project at all
1:22:43he's done anything recently there
1:22:48um
1:22:50like mostly just yard work like
1:22:54I think he helped plant their new cherry
1:22:55tree
1:22:57um but he hasn't helped like rip down
1:22:58walls or carpet or anything like that at
1:23:00the house
1:23:01uh
1:23:03not recently but I recall like when
1:23:07their bathroom was under construction he
1:23:08helped put down the Lake Heating floor
1:23:10tile stuff
1:23:14might have helped be smooth
1:23:18I know once they collected nails for his
1:23:21dad for something
1:23:23and then they brought it to the top
1:23:26yeah I remember that day they went to
1:23:27the dump
1:23:31um
1:23:32yeah because
1:23:35she because I was having a hard time
1:23:37sitting down and like driving obviously
1:23:39he drove my car and his parents followed
1:23:41us and then picked him up
1:23:45on Wednesday
1:23:47uh when I when they were taking care of
1:23:49me because of the Urgent Care thing the
1:23:50sale Bank says oh okay yeah so a couple
1:23:53weeks back okay I just want to make sure
1:23:55I'm understanding you so that's that's
1:23:57the last time they went to the dump so
1:23:58the Wednesday before like that you went
1:24:01to the ER because of this Urgent Care
1:24:03yes okay so that was the Wednesday not
1:24:05like yesterday Wednesday or the
1:24:07Wednesday before like on the first or
1:24:08whatever okay thank you for clarifying I
1:24:11just want to make sure that I'm
1:24:11understanding this yeah sorry now you're
1:24:14good
1:24:15yeah that was the last time I recalled
1:24:17I'm talking about going to the dump but
1:24:19they go like quite often okay
1:24:22so they have a dumpster outside or they
1:24:24just take it all put in the car drive it
1:24:27okay do a quick trip on the way home
1:24:29[snorts]
1:24:31I'm so sorry I feel like I seem like I
1:24:33have Bad Manners
1:24:35I mean
1:24:38um is
1:24:39Chandler talk about any um firearms that
1:24:42he has
1:24:45his friend did gift him one okay what is
1:24:49that
1:24:51I don't know what it's called
1:24:55you know when
1:24:57you visited
1:24:59oh from Kansas yes okay
1:25:03but other than that his parents they
1:25:06have like a safe with other guns
1:25:09because he used to be on the shooting
1:25:11team in college
1:25:13ads
1:25:18Platteville that's the name started with
1:25:20the p
1:25:26the gun that he gets it was like a
1:25:28handgun or something that you hold like
1:25:30a rifle like
1:25:32a grateful his friend's in the military
1:25:34so I don't know wow
1:25:37do you know a friend's name
1:25:39Smith
1:25:41it's his last name I don't know his
1:25:43first name
1:25:44you know what branch
1:25:47army army yeah Kansas you said
1:25:52everything from yes
1:26:00yeah so he was on a shooting team for
1:26:03Platteville yeah it was like I don't
1:26:05know if it was a club or something might
1:26:07have been a club for Platteville High
1:26:09School Platteville College okay
1:26:11he went to Plymouth High School
1:26:17where did they go to Platteville College
1:26:19um
1:26:21graduated high school in 2016 so I
1:26:23assumed 2016 fall
1:26:27I'm not sure
1:26:29did he get his four-year there
1:26:31I think he did two years there okay he
1:26:34like had scholarships from like swimming
1:26:36and stuff and I think he did a little
1:26:37bit of water polo there
1:26:39not sure
1:26:45could he swim there
1:26:48water balloon
1:26:49but not swimming I don't know if he swam
1:26:51okay
1:26:57do you know is his the gun that he was
1:26:59gifted is that in the gun safe with all
1:27:02of his parents
1:27:07like when he got it okay
1:27:10how do you describe it
1:27:13long
1:27:14black I think
1:27:17there's like an army gun a particularly
1:27:19yeah
1:27:21like when I'm 16 ish
1:27:25I'm going like
1:27:27like a little bit changes you don't have
1:27:30any pictures of the gun
1:27:32I didn't know if Chandler like took
1:27:34pictures of like he's not like I'm a gun
1:27:36owner
1:27:37you know he's not like a can I like the
1:27:39rifles cops carry
1:27:41similar to that with the magazine
1:27:42underneath
1:27:44no all we have in the farm is that
1:27:46shotguns yeah but it's not that no okay
1:27:55do you know if it was like a like
1:27:58military issued gun or just one of
1:28:00Smith's guns that he was like yeah I
1:28:02don't need this yeah okay just an extra
1:28:05gun okay
1:28:08skip Jay time okay any reason why
1:28:14I didn't know if Chandler was like hey I
1:28:15like want a bed or I've been talking
1:28:17about going trap shooting
1:28:22like
1:28:29all of that or something okay I think he
1:28:31just Smith showed us like
1:28:35just jamming okay
1:28:38I don't know they're getting together a
1:28:41lot so
1:28:43to [snorts] see a game on Discord
1:28:45well discord's a chatting app but when
1:28:47he's gaming as he um Discord sometimes
1:28:50okay he sometimes doesn't log in okay
1:28:57yeah they're guns in the safe what do
1:28:58they look like have you ever seen them
1:28:59no no parents keep them pretty locked up
1:29:02we're at their bedroom or I don't know
1:29:07um another question about Smith when
1:29:09Smith came to visit did he drive up or
1:29:11did he fly do you remember the vehicle
1:29:14no okay like foxy Baker
1:29:19silver sounded like shoes
1:29:24played with really loud country music
1:29:29like a SUV type vehicle or car
1:29:33um yes you use the long white ones
1:29:36like if you take the
1:29:40probably like the Scions
1:29:42I don't know cars like maybe like
1:29:45my Forester but like a little taller
1:29:49silver and like more boxy looking okay
1:29:52something
1:29:59are you friends with Smith on and like
1:30:01any social media at all
1:30:12why are you so tired today did you not
1:30:14sleep last night I was with my friends
1:30:16okay they stayed until like 12 a.m play
1:30:19Katan okay I don't know if you played
1:30:21because I'm
1:30:22you know sport game
1:30:26um we got dinner and then looks like
1:30:28it's on
1:30:30let's see
1:30:31so
1:30:33what did he when did Chandler start
1:30:35showing concern for his parents not
1:30:37being back
1:30:40like
1:30:41Monday Monday yeah
1:30:44like
1:30:45it's unusual to not get text messages
1:30:47from his mom
1:30:49or his like Dad kind of like his dad
1:30:51will send pictures of the cabin
1:30:56um
1:30:56or like his mom will text him updates or
1:30:59something like
1:31:01art caught a fish
1:31:02send a picture apart
1:31:04so they went to the cabin on
1:31:07Friday morning is that right I think so
1:31:08yeah they sent him any updates during
1:31:10the weekend
1:31:12I thought it was Saturday they sent a
1:31:13text
1:31:18I thought it was Saturday sure you said
1:31:20Sunday so why was he concerned on Monday
1:31:23if you just got the text yesterday or
1:31:25the day before
1:31:27supposed to be on Monday night
1:31:28experience are usually like on time but
1:31:30like okay
1:31:31it was like a
1:31:33they'll be back you know
1:31:35and then like they're supposed to be
1:31:37back early Tuesday morning if they
1:31:38didn't make it back Monday night
1:31:41and it's like his dad's very punctual
1:31:44okay
1:31:45so
1:31:47I'm like
1:31:48his mom was supposed to work Tuesday
1:31:51okay
1:31:53but Monday y'all went to the farm he
1:31:56went to the farm
1:31:58he went to my house after okay
1:32:02but he talked with my mom and her fiance
1:32:10okay
1:32:11so how did you find out
1:32:13that the parents were
1:32:15not
1:32:17that they were late did he tell you yeah
1:32:19we text like all the time or SnapChat
1:32:21all the time not really times well both
1:32:24and it's like the entire week I'm like
1:32:27hey did you hear from your mom did your
1:32:28mom text you because like I'm so used to
1:32:31her texting him like while we're hanging
1:32:33out or while she's away you know
1:32:35he's like no but like maybe the
1:32:37self-service is bad it's a busy weekend
1:32:39they're all probably using like one
1:32:40Tower
1:32:41sure yeah and then like
1:32:45if you hear from your mom
1:32:47it's like no not yet it's fine but it's
1:32:50probably busy you know with their
1:32:52friends
1:32:55I guess like in a way like
1:33:00you know like it'll be okay you know
1:33:05type of thing like they'll talk to us
1:33:07when they can
1:33:08okay sure
1:33:11and then like
1:33:13and I was like Hey like have you heard
1:33:15from them and he's like no not yet I'm
1:33:17like okay well has Metroid from them
1:33:20he's like I don't know I'm like
1:33:22um okay well you should maybe ask me
1:33:24she's like I don't want to make him
1:33:25worry and I'm like well even just ask
1:33:27like hey his mom sent you pictures of
1:33:29the cabin or anything you know
1:33:31feels like Mitch has this whole diabetes
1:33:34thing and like just had an attack the
1:33:37Father's Day brunch thing we did
1:33:39like his mom was really concerned so I
1:33:42knew she would be texting him
1:33:43if not Chandler
1:33:46so
1:33:47and I'm like
1:33:49Tuesday it was like
1:33:53still haven't heard anything he's like
1:33:54yeah no I'm gonna go [clears throat] to
1:33:56the police tomorrow
1:33:58then
1:34:00he went to the police on Wednesday
1:34:03like
1:34:08you might have been trying to call them
1:34:10yeah he tried to call them like he
1:34:12called his mom in front of me at one
1:34:14point and went straight to voicemail do
1:34:16you know what day that was
1:34:18just sometime this weekend
1:34:20okay
1:34:22because of the Cabbage call your mom he
1:34:25was like yeah and like he just opened it
1:34:28and called her again in front of me he's
1:34:30like it just go straight to voicemail
1:34:31it's like busy
1:34:34assume that I was like dead or something
1:34:36you know
1:34:37your phone pretty well charged I believe
1:34:41she like steps away from it to like
1:34:43clean or like do something but like
1:34:45she doesn't take too long to respond
1:34:47unless she's working
1:34:49was that his idea to go to the police or
1:34:51someone encouraging to do that
1:34:54was like your parents are missing I
1:34:56don't know if like he brought it up
1:34:58first
1:34:59I think he did yeah but like
1:35:02I was like you have to go to the police
1:35:05I was like your parents are like God
1:35:07he's like yeah I should go to the police
1:35:09it was his idea
1:35:10I'm pretty sure yeah but I was like have
1:35:13you heard from them have you heard from
1:35:14them you know yeah
1:35:17like I said it's so unusual to not hear
1:35:19from this Mom
1:35:21did you guys look around the house for
1:35:22any kind of
1:35:23note that they may have left or maybe go
1:35:26into their rooms or not only no they
1:35:28left was Chandler's like insurance cards
1:35:30and like Pam's number on the table
1:35:32because he has his employment on Monday
1:35:40okay
1:35:41and
1:35:43give you one of their betterment all did
1:35:44it seem like clean I mean the door was
1:35:47open I don't go in but the bed was made
1:35:51Chandler put those Tree on their bed
1:35:52he's like I should probably fold their
1:35:54laundry so when they get back they'll be
1:35:55happy you know sure they like Lee does
1:35:59little stuff like that you know he makes
1:36:01any parent happy when their kid folds
1:36:02her clothes for them while they're gone
1:36:04I do it for my mom sometimes
1:36:12um
1:36:13come on we come knocking obviously you'd
1:36:16be
1:36:17makes a report
1:36:20um
1:36:22did he seem happy that we were at least
1:36:24helping try to find his parents
1:36:27yeah like he talked to you when we first
1:36:29came here like he was like do you have
1:36:31any news like you know like I text him
1:36:34through he's like there's they haven't
1:36:35heard anything like the cabins empty
1:36:37like
1:36:38he want we were talking after eventually
1:36:41left like
1:36:42I was like hey Danny's like because my
1:36:44friend Danny's mom died of cancer you
1:36:46know his mom's sick so
1:36:48he's like you know his mom probably took
1:36:51that money and they're going to live
1:36:52life you know going to the casinos
1:36:53winning big and like
1:36:55you know having fun and China's like
1:36:57yeah they're like they're at the casino
1:36:59they're like having such a good time
1:37:01like they're racking up that money you
1:37:02gotta stay there so they blow it all
1:37:04it's like yes yeah you know they're just
1:37:06at the casino living life he's like Yep
1:37:07they're just winning
1:37:09you know trying to stay positive
1:37:11talk about what they're probably doing
1:37:13like
1:37:14did they have any problems with anybody
1:37:17the hauler sends yeah
1:37:20you gotta ask not that I'm aware of
1:37:23the only thing I heard is like
1:37:27Krista doesn't miss holderson doesn't
1:37:29always get along with her boss you know
1:37:31but doesn't always doesn't mean all the
1:37:35time like
1:37:36she made him like a gumball out of his
1:37:39head for his Christmas present
1:37:42like a combo machine because he always
1:37:45has like nuts that got a bag of nuts and
1:37:48like a gumball machine and it was like a
1:37:50Mr Hollis in a Miss hollison project to
1:37:52make it look like him so I would
1:37:54dispense and that's on his desk
1:37:57sorry like
1:38:00[snorts]
1:38:02maybe the McDonald's workers his dad
1:38:04would yell at through the
1:38:06speaker or something okay
1:38:09how was um Chandler this weekend was he
1:38:11sleeping and Eden and
1:38:15like she ate
1:38:17um well up [clears throat] until Sunday
1:38:19because like
1:38:21you know
1:38:23just
1:38:25emotional Monday but like I made him eat
1:38:27and then like didn't meet all Tuesday
1:38:29because he was worried except the wings
1:38:31we got him
1:38:33and I made sure you took leftovers with
1:38:35him so we could have something to eat
1:38:37said he had a peanut butter fold over
1:38:39yesterday and like his Dan and Mary
1:38:41bought him like a pizza so he could eat
1:38:43but
1:38:44he's really worried he's having a hard
1:38:46time eating
1:38:47um
1:38:51you don't think he had anything to do
1:38:52with his mom and dad being
1:38:55unheard from yeah
1:38:58I just yeah
1:39:01all my friends I've talked to they're
1:39:03like no not Chandler no
1:39:06like
1:39:09that'd be
1:39:11crazy
1:39:12sorry I sound very monotone right now
1:39:14but like
1:39:15snow
1:39:17are you no
1:39:20no not a mean boy in his body
1:39:23well
1:39:25everyone has a mean bone
1:39:29doesn't even said Mother Teresa was a
1:39:30dick sometimes like
1:39:33but I just don't see him killing Mr Mrs
1:39:36halderson like
1:39:38he had SpaceX like why would he
1:39:40jeopardize something he like would dream
1:39:42of you know like like there's parents
1:39:46for Christmas they got him and his
1:39:47brother matching tool sets like come on
1:39:52he cooks dinner for them they have root
1:39:54beer floats together they played
1:39:57Mario Kart whenever his parents want to
1:39:59like
1:40:01and his brother Mitchell you think
1:40:03Mitchell yeah he's
1:40:06[clears throat] a leaf in the Wind
1:40:10even if you tried they could just like
1:40:12push him over and he'd like break
1:40:15No Mitch out no
1:40:20any friends or relatives that they've
1:40:22been having problems with that you can
1:40:24think of no
1:40:25no I mean Miss hulderson didn't really
1:40:28like Miss or hold this inside of the
1:40:29family but they're also like Republican
1:40:31conservative and she's like very
1:40:33Democrat
1:40:35so
1:40:37I I just
1:40:40I just can't see someone killing them
1:40:42like that's the thing
1:40:44like
1:40:46I thought like maybe they got into a car
1:40:48accident like maybe their cars on the
1:40:50side of the road like
1:40:51I even thought like maybe that happened
1:40:53and someone took them to the hospital
1:40:54and they're just Jane and John Doe
1:40:57like
1:40:59if someone killed them would have to be
1:41:01someone they like didn't know
1:41:03like I just can't see them like
1:41:06owing a loan shark money and then like
1:41:09them getting them or like having
1:41:11problems with the mob you know
1:41:13they're just not that type of people
1:41:15like
1:41:16I just can't see someone killing them I
1:41:19imagine you and Chandler had this
1:41:21conversation like all the what is
1:41:23like car accident car I don't I didn't
1:41:26bring up the car accident to him
1:41:28I think our main thing was
1:41:31they're off their money everywhere we
1:41:34don't talk about other stuff he hasn't
1:41:37had that concern that something else
1:41:38could have happened I don't think he
1:41:40wants to think about that
1:41:42like he's obviously worried like they're
1:41:44not at the cabin sorry I'm emotional
1:41:46you're fine and it's like
1:41:48no one wants to think that
1:41:52like
1:41:53you can see himself just saying
1:41:55they're like blowing all the money
1:41:57they're just trying to live life
1:41:59they went like and extended their
1:42:01vacation somewhere
1:42:02like
1:42:04no one wants to think that anything
1:42:06happened to them and like
1:42:12like we have to talk about it throughout
1:42:13Spirits we're like What would happen if
1:42:15something happened to his parents
1:42:16I just don't even think he wants to
1:42:17think about it
1:42:21okay why some people tell or anything
1:42:24for me next yes please I'm gonna give
1:42:26you some thank you I
1:42:29swear
1:42:31yeah
1:42:33it's dusty and crusty in here I know the
1:42:36last time we cleaned in here there's
1:42:39honestly like a layer of dust out here
1:42:40and you'll see so that could be the
1:42:42contributing factor
1:42:44uh Lisa and I were talking about how it
1:42:45looks like it's from the 90s in here oh
1:42:47yeah it definitely is I thought it was
1:42:4970s colors but I I wasn't around in the
1:42:5190s so
1:42:53I want to say this is probably like the
1:42:5690s 80s like vibe
1:42:59it's probably like straight out of
1:43:01someone like living room thank you
1:43:03you're welcome
1:43:07sorry
1:43:12I didn't mean to upset you
1:43:14I mean you're an upset me like like I
1:43:16said I think it's more concerning if I
1:43:18wasn't emotional yeah I was like
1:43:20no nothing bad happened to them
1:43:24I think that'd be a little more
1:43:25concerning you know yeah
1:43:28do you cry in front of Chandler
1:43:30in front of everyone
1:43:32okay I'm emotional
1:43:34but mostly French
1:43:36does has he cried
1:43:39like
1:43:40he doesn't cry in front of people like
1:43:42he told me one day he cried
1:43:47usually one and gets his cry out and
1:43:49he's like if I come over
1:43:52like
1:43:53and I cry don't break up with me I'm
1:43:56like
1:43:57stupid reason to break up over someone
1:43:58you know being erased on his dad who
1:44:00doesn't really show emotion it's like a
1:44:02don't cry type of thing
1:44:05you know
1:44:07no offense but men
1:44:09I get it sorry George it's okay
1:44:17did you know if your mucus is green that
1:44:19means you might be getting sick soon I
1:44:21do would you make the screen
1:44:23[snorts] it was a what so there you go
1:44:26get your answer yeah
1:44:28so what was Chandler upset about on
1:44:31Monday the doctor's appointment the
1:44:33doctor's appointment and losing the job
1:44:34okay
1:44:36and I'm sure on top of it
1:44:38like his mom not texting him
1:44:42but she did text him on Sunday so how
1:44:45did he like how was his demeanor on
1:44:47Sunday
1:44:49he's having fun like
1:44:51walk around the pool enjoying food
1:44:53chatting okay talking with my mom and
1:44:56his girlfriend
1:44:57playing with the dogs like
1:45:00we brought the dogs with us and they
1:45:01love running around the farm his dogs no
1:45:04your dogs yes okay
1:45:06his dogs cannot handle being in a car oh
1:45:09okay like Rizzo has to wear a diaper a
1:45:12Thundershirt someone has to be like
1:45:13holding her
1:45:15yeah oh wow like when we were there
1:45:18they're like because Mitch was calling
1:45:21the family friend to like come over
1:45:23even though I can't like a neighbor just
1:45:25come take him over to their house I'm
1:45:27like no they cannot leave the house okay
1:45:29they can go in the backyard of the front
1:45:30yard but any other setting is gonna be
1:45:32too much and Rizzo might like she
1:45:34lunches at people and like barks at you
1:45:37but like she won't bite you but it looks
1:45:39like she's gonna bite you like I want
1:45:41the officers obviously about that but
1:45:44like
1:45:46you know I I've seen a cop shoot a dog
1:45:48so
1:45:51it just I don't want them to move the
1:45:53dogs okay
1:45:59do you know when he got the text message
1:46:01right it wasn't a call I think it was
1:46:04yeah
1:46:05okay I thought it was Saturday he said
1:46:07it was Sunday okay but
1:46:11I just I don't know so I just know
1:46:14there's a text message saying that they
1:46:16got to the lake
1:46:17so after the text message he was
1:46:21enjoying the festivities like talking
1:46:24with people yeah in the pool did he
1:46:27appear to be happy since he got the text
1:46:29message
1:46:30yeah okay
1:46:33you're just texted me okay you were with
1:46:35him when you got the text
1:46:37I believe so yeah
1:46:38you were with him I believe so yeah okay
1:46:43no snapchats of that
1:46:46okay I think I remember him like saying
1:46:48it to me you know what's up
1:46:51and it's just Sunday
1:46:54when you were at the farm you think I
1:46:56think at the farm okay
1:46:57okay um we called Mitchell on Sunday at
1:47:00the house
1:47:06any reason for his parents uh
1:47:08wanna take off and Bash
1:47:11is mom being sick
1:47:12that's all I could think
1:47:14like I said I can't see them running
1:47:16from a long shark or one of my friends
1:47:18was like maybe they robbed a bank in the
1:47:1970s and like their person they were
1:47:22doing it with was like Hey we're gonna
1:47:24get caught let's leave like yeah I mean
1:47:26sometimes people are like I want to get
1:47:27out of here I have a couple other family
1:47:29members help them you know plan their
1:47:32disappearance
1:47:33so he obviously didn't want you to hold
1:47:37on anything or get rid of anything that
1:47:38were his parents or anything no no
1:47:42no
1:47:44like I said he can't hold this or get
1:47:48rid of this oh no okay
1:47:54he's very like
1:47:57even when he had his apartment and like
1:47:59I wandered into one of his roommates
1:48:01rooms once he's like no you don't belong
1:48:02there you don't go there like that's not
1:48:04your space like I've never been in his
1:48:05parents room I've never been in like the
1:48:07guest bedroom like
1:48:10he's like that's not our space you don't
1:48:12go in it
1:48:13doesn't take her touches parents things
1:48:16like except when trying to find clues
1:48:19for you guys
1:48:22you know sure wouldn't give me anything
1:48:24it was parents to like run away with
1:48:27you know I'd be like why
1:48:33I borrowed his mom's hair dryer Sunday
1:48:34to dry my hair but that's it
1:48:37but it's still there I left it
1:48:41you're fine we're not worried about a
1:48:43hair dryer and
1:48:44bigger things to worry about
1:48:47okay
1:48:49quick break you have to use bathroom
1:48:51again you good
1:48:53you want to make any calls or anybody
1:48:55know you're okay I'm making calls or
1:49:00my friend in Berlin Germany probably
1:49:02thinks I'm dead Berlin Germany yeah her
1:49:05name's Kira van Sutton she was an
1:49:07exchange student in my junior year cool
1:49:10oh no it's seven she's sleeping
1:49:16sure
1:49:19all right you make me step out for a sec
1:49:21unless
1:49:23you're gonna throw shade and I prefer to
1:49:25put on my face no we should definitely
1:49:27do it in front of you like that shows to
1:49:29take the first night
1:49:30stay in front of the face of course
1:49:32totally honest
1:49:34oh Jesus
1:49:59so
1:50:01foamy let's give you so much
1:50:04they're just making sure that you're
1:50:06really sanitized
1:50:09could I have just a couple quick
1:50:10follow-up questions
1:50:11Financial verification okay
1:50:14um any fire pits at the house
1:50:17uh yeah in the backyard okay did you all
1:50:20use it at all like I used it before not
1:50:22recently okay like they use it to like
1:50:25burn brushes though that they like cut
1:50:27off near the like
1:50:29um
1:50:31you know how they're on the water
1:50:33there's like some bushes or like weeds
1:50:35that come there they usually like rip
1:50:37them out burn them okay or like they
1:50:39burn like sticks that fall down okay
1:50:45okay
1:50:47if they do them together
1:50:51not like all the time not like
1:50:55a little less than often I guess
1:50:58you know okay but like
1:51:01burn brushes or like
1:51:04they enjoy a good my own's calling them
1:51:06feel free to call it our answer
1:51:09hello
1:51:12still they're still asking questions mom
1:51:19uh chair contractor
1:51:22here's Liz
1:51:24hello
1:51:34okay
1:51:36all of these real quick
1:51:53have any updates
1:51:57no just trying to
1:51:59figure it out
1:52:07so you said he had
1:52:08did he try to make a dump run on
1:52:10Saturday you know what he was going to
1:52:11throw away the there's like
1:52:14[clears throat] um a
1:52:16tarp of like you know a layer of dirt
1:52:19and like grass on it because his parents
1:52:22just planted a tree before they left in
1:52:24the front yard
1:52:25or is it tarp at
1:52:27driveway
1:52:30so it was still it was there yesterday I
1:52:32know they were today yeah so yeah did he
1:52:34actually go to the dump no it was close
1:52:37oh he knew it was close we never
1:52:38actually made it I don't know if he went
1:52:39there
1:52:40or like Googled it that was closed but
1:52:43okay it's been in the same spot so just
1:52:45assume he Googled it
1:52:58did Liz not call my mom yet
1:53:01I gave her the number last night so
1:53:04I could talk already
1:53:05oh
1:53:07that's a good question
1:53:09I gave her my mom and her fiance's
1:53:11number
1:53:13she's got both Crescent Messiah yes my
1:53:16mom's fiance
1:53:18I call it crest for short
1:53:23let me call my cat but it's actually
1:53:25Catherine
1:53:27no wonder
1:53:29c-a-t-h-r-y-n
1:53:33um [clears throat]
1:53:37has he been so he's been in your car but
1:53:39he never actually drove it
1:53:42this weekend
1:53:43since Thursday
1:53:46my mom and dad left until not that I
1:53:49recall him driving it no but he's been
1:53:51in it okay
1:53:54usually already sharp then
1:53:56he does or yeah
1:53:59like if I'm tired when I like Hill Drive
1:54:01or like I just don't feel like driving
1:54:03but that was before the fall
1:54:08text message that you said
1:54:10so Sunny he gets a text message from his
1:54:12mom did you hear a ding
1:54:15how do you know he got like how do you
1:54:16know he got a text message from her he
1:54:18told me he just told you yeah but it's
1:54:20kind of out of the blue
1:54:21or do you go and look at his phone and
1:54:23say oh my mom sent me a text or
1:54:25it's a welcome conversation like oh I
1:54:27got to touch my mom earlier do you
1:54:28remember
1:54:29yeah study mentioned that he got a text
1:54:31from this moment okay yeah she wanted to
1:54:33make sure that if we were around
1:54:36Chandler to let him know that she's
1:54:39thinking of him too because this is
1:54:41probably just one big misunderstanding
1:54:43oh Mitch called me can I call Mitch back
1:54:45that's his brother okay
1:54:48so popular
1:54:58there's like grass and dirt that's kind
1:55:00of tired of he was supposed to take that
1:55:01in the dumps which doesn't help actually
1:55:02when it went for Google editor
1:55:07average overtime speaking but humans and
1:55:10navigating shotgun
1:55:17Chandler doesn't have his phone Dusky
1:55:23like I said our attention is with you so
1:55:25we don't really know what's
1:55:27fair enough
1:55:31but yeah we're
1:55:33almost done if
1:55:39want to know if he has an update about
1:55:40the cabin oh because you're
1:55:45right
1:55:45I said yeah he went up there she should
1:55:48be there by now
1:55:49what time do you think he told me he got
1:55:51the text from
1:55:54it was Sunday remember time
1:55:59I think it was at my mom
1:56:01's probably like Farm maybe were you
1:56:03shopping
1:56:04when he had it or
1:56:07you were with him I remember him
1:56:09verbally telling me
1:56:11she doesn't remember if there was a ding
1:56:13just that at some point he's like oh my
1:56:15mom I gotta talk to my mom okay
1:56:17anyways
1:56:21what's that it's usually a vibrated film
1:56:34times real fast
1:56:41so Mitch and I sent each other memes and
1:56:43this was our most recent one
1:56:45those on Sunday
1:56:48lobsters with a stormtrooper helmet
1:56:51holding a gun his laughter said gun
1:56:53Lobster approves her meme I like that
1:56:56one yeah a good friend
1:57:01so
1:57:02[clears throat]
1:57:13so he gets attacks on Sunday yeah the
1:57:16mom I thought it was Saturday yeah you
1:57:18thought it was Saturday yeah but he said
1:57:20it was Sunday okay
1:57:23so
1:57:24you guys had a conversation I'm guessing
1:57:26afterwards at some point that he got a
1:57:28text he thought it was Saturday but he's
1:57:30telling you it was Sunday yeah I also
1:57:32get like little details to make some
1:57:33mixed up quite often like
1:57:37because it was like just a random moment
1:57:39it's not like I was doing something I
1:57:41remember like oh for a Target I went to
1:57:43Target Friday and like
1:57:47it was like just a random oh my mom
1:57:50texted me so
1:57:53that they made us the lake
1:57:55and that it's busy
1:57:57guess what you said it's a man too late
1:57:59it's busy anything about what they're
1:58:01gonna do
1:58:03I basically go on the lake
1:58:05it's usually with Jim
1:58:18um just to add on what George said about
1:58:21like this tarp for the dump did you see
1:58:24him moving like any like bins sorry
1:58:29hey Mitch
1:58:37no they're still asking us questions
1:58:40um we're in separate rooms room so I
1:58:41don't know if he's done or not but I'm
1:58:43still
1:58:46uh Sheriff's Department downtown
1:58:54yeah it was like they just sent some
1:58:56cops and squad cars to pick us up and
1:58:58then
1:59:00separate cars and they got us
1:59:01transported down to the Sheriff's
1:59:03Department you know Precious Cargo
1:59:10they're still asking me stuff I don't
1:59:11know if Chandler's done yet
1:59:16yeah I don't want them pushing himself
1:59:17either
1:59:19um
1:59:25I told them that someone needed to get
1:59:28to the dogs and
1:59:33yeah I told them that like because they
1:59:35like asked if they could take the dogs
1:59:36out bring them to my neighbors and I
1:59:38said Rizzo can't handle that and that if
1:59:40they could to please like just make try
1:59:43and make sure the like door was open
1:59:45from the garage to the house because
1:59:47like the dogs you know need dinner
1:59:50I'm sorry I was already in the back of
1:59:52the squad car when you were calling me
1:59:53they had to take my phone so
2:00:03Mitch
2:00:05hello
2:00:07hello
2:00:10hey sorry you just got out for a while
2:00:26um
2:00:32any update about the cabin
2:00:35hello
2:00:36service again
2:00:43Mitch
2:00:49contract
2:00:51it's this building too I always have
2:00:55awful reception here
2:00:57okay
2:00:59um so did you call someone to or did
2:01:02Chandler call someone to come take care
2:01:04of the dogs we were like I was being put
2:01:07in the back of a car and you know we
2:01:08were in cars on the opposite sides so
2:01:12Mitch was on the phone with me and I was
2:01:14like he was like Hey can you like make
2:01:16sure like I gave them the garage door
2:01:19code he like see if the like door from
2:01:22the garage to the house is unlocked and
2:01:24he's like I heard like Chandler's being
2:01:26asked more questions I'm not sure about
2:01:28you I'm like I'm going back to the car
2:01:29too nothing I can do but and like I was
2:01:32talking to this blonde lady and like she
2:01:35was like looking at me like can they
2:01:37just go to a different house I'm like no
2:01:38Rizzo couldn't handle that they like can
2:01:40someone pick up like Rizzo can barely
2:01:41drive and
2:01:43like
2:01:44the uncle they're sending like maybe
2:01:46she'll be okay because like they've
2:01:48washed her before but it's still gonna
2:01:49be a struggle
2:01:50so we're called to have someone
2:01:52Mitch the brother okay so Mitch was on
2:01:55the you were on the phone with Mitch
2:01:56when you're getting or he called while
2:01:58you're in the back of a squad yeah and
2:02:00then he took it from there yes okay um I
2:02:02like tried talking to someone but
2:02:04someone took your phone yeah because the
2:02:07driver was the Lisa who drove me here
2:02:10she had to hold it okay they said it's
2:02:12like protocol okay but we couldn't have
2:02:14our phones either of us okay
2:02:19yeah we have so much equipment in there
2:02:20so it might just interfere with them
2:02:22yeah like it's just yeah puts it up in
2:02:24the visor so yeah
2:02:26I gotta [clears throat] yeah
2:02:29um so any of the chores or anytime that
2:02:32you saw went over to the house did you
2:02:34see any like storage bins
2:02:36was anyone doing anything moving
2:02:39anything they have a lot of storage bins
2:02:41in the basement like Miss hollers and
2:02:42labels them all very organized it's like
2:02:46she's stack of all three of the boys
2:02:48Eagles Scouts and boy scout stuff
2:02:50okay like
2:02:57so okay
2:02:59um
2:03:00if you guys go in the basement you'll
2:03:01see it okay
2:03:04if you didn't see did you see Chandler
2:03:06with any storage bins no
2:03:08okay I didn't go in the basement before
2:03:09the weekend but
2:03:11is that an area you're not like I'm one
2:03:14of the basement okay I just didn't know
2:03:16they like a little fridge down there
2:03:18that they keep soda and
2:03:20like since their house gets so hot
2:03:22sometimes Chandler will like but his uh
2:03:24College like apartment mattress down
2:03:27like set up a table and like you know be
2:03:30on his computer down there since it's
2:03:32colder okay and the dogs will hang out
2:03:34with him the floor cement
2:03:40wait is it your farm this weekend was he
2:03:42you guys at the pool the whole time or
2:03:44is he walking around the property at all
2:03:45I mean we went all walks together but
2:03:49walking's hard for him sure it's not
2:03:52like he could run away and I wouldn't
2:03:53see him
2:03:55we were on each other the whole time
2:03:57she gets walk you think it's a big
2:03:59property out here
2:04:03pool
2:04:05like
2:04:07we have a bar so it's like pool here
2:04:09raspberry patch where we go our
2:04:11raspberries there's a ton of them
2:04:15right over here is Barn
2:04:18um start walking back that way you'll
2:04:20pass the Mulberry Tree the grapes
2:04:23um get to the house on the other side
2:04:25like a little to the corner of the house
2:04:27there's like a little shed where we have
2:04:28the chickens we it would be like
2:04:32in front of the chicken coop like kind
2:04:35of it's like a fence thing he took a
2:04:36picture of me holding his chicken
2:04:37Hawkeye
2:04:39[clears throat] um to the
2:04:41Barn he didn't go into the barn
2:04:45to the barn so not really that far
2:04:47okay I'll eat around each other okay
2:04:51on Monday he said he walked off by
2:04:53himself but he was going to cry so
2:04:56I
2:05:00was upset about if Mama texted him on
2:05:02Sunday saying that the job thanks though
2:05:04all the job thing yeah when did he find
2:05:06out about the job was at Monday yes yes
2:05:08because it was right after his
2:05:10appointment because they like called him
2:05:11hrd okay
2:05:14[snorts] um what did Chandler say about
2:05:16mom not going to work
2:05:19oh he said he like called them to see if
2:05:22like they've heard from her and then
2:05:24like apparently the boss said no and so
2:05:27he asked for his mom to have another day
2:05:28off and she didn't get back yet what day
2:05:30was that do you remember Tuesday Tuesday
2:05:32yeah
2:05:37so he called her the boss called
2:05:46oh I didn't know what the water was bad
2:05:48no I was just
2:05:50about doing multiple things at once
2:06:16I don't know
2:06:20you're
2:06:22fine
2:06:24I [clears throat]
2:06:25know embarrassing baby photos no
2:06:28type of mom
2:06:29your mom seems very nice
2:06:31she used to sell my dance costume oh
2:06:33really
2:06:34sweet lady
2:06:37sweets or candy in Spanish
2:06:40are you bilingual no oh my
2:06:45like my dad wanted me as American as
2:06:47possible okay okay you know when my mom
2:06:49was here a lot of Mexicans faced a lot
2:06:52of problems and they still do so sadly
2:06:55it was in the best interest of my life
2:06:57that I didn't learn Spanish
2:07:00okay
2:07:02sorry to go deep like that you're good I
2:07:05I honestly asked too many questions
2:07:07sometimes I think that's your job though
2:07:10some would say
2:07:12okay
2:07:14um
2:07:16so were you
2:07:19on the phone with Chandler and heard him
2:07:22yelling about being treated like a
2:07:25prisoner at his house
2:07:31yeah okay tell me more about that when
2:07:34he wasn't allowed to leave
2:07:36and that was after the fall right when
2:07:39he was recovery slash payback two weeks
2:07:43for the money that
2:07:46he owes them yeah that sounds familiar
2:07:50what day was that
2:07:51he said talking about being a prisoner I
2:07:53don't know like recently
2:07:56sounds familiar
2:07:57is that something that he normally
2:07:59complained about yeah like he's only
2:08:02allowed to leave when his parents let
2:08:03him leave like their house their rules
2:08:06like if they didn't if they wanted him
2:08:08home they'd be like no you can't jump
2:08:10you know
2:08:11but kind of more dramatic type thing
2:08:14okay
2:08:16I know when like this is a it's a
2:08:19fragile situation where because they're
2:08:21missing
2:08:23you know we want to talk good things but
2:08:26[clears throat] was there some tension
2:08:28between his Chandler and his parents
2:08:30it's amazing I mean if he feels like
2:08:32he's a prisoner he's upset
2:08:35are they overly straight do you think
2:08:38um it's like like I said whenever we're
2:08:40together his parents would text them
2:08:41like
2:08:43I think it's more of just like involved
2:08:45parent type thing like they want to know
2:08:47what he's doing where he's at what's our
2:08:49plan is usually what they text like
2:08:50what's your plan
2:08:52um
2:08:53like if they want him home like they
2:08:56won't let him leave like
2:08:58you know
2:09:00they like they're having dinner they
2:09:03don't really strict he has a
2:09:04conversation going on at the dinner
2:09:06table talk about her days his mom's like
2:09:09this is I can recreate his mom's like
2:09:11Chandler has news
2:09:12and like generally like I have news you
2:09:16know it's like your job you know
2:09:19joking over the dinner table you know
2:09:21and is is his dad a strict father and a
2:09:24lot of dads are really strict
2:09:27like he's strict but like he still makes
2:09:29jokes laughs with them like I said
2:09:31fishes with them
2:09:33The Prisoner thing I think he was just
2:09:34being dramatic like
2:09:38who what kid
2:09:40wouldn't call their parent a prisoner if
2:09:42they're like not allowed to leave often
2:09:45or like they want to go do something
2:09:46their parents are like no you know yeah
2:09:48like that's just my perspective I'm not
2:09:51trying to be like I don't know it's like
2:09:54it just sounds like a normal kid thing
2:09:55to say to me
2:09:57like
2:09:59I mean his parents like
2:10:03because it feels up to us we hang out
2:10:04with each other every day seems clingy
2:10:06but like we're each other's best friends
2:10:08like I want to hang out with my best
2:10:10friends every day
2:10:11but like
2:10:13his parents you know obviously want to
2:10:15spend family time with him so like he
2:10:16wasn't allowed to be like they won't let
2:10:18me leave sorry you know
2:10:20and like those two weeks were like a
2:10:22long time
2:10:24okay
2:10:25so you think that probably happened in
2:10:27the last two weeks
2:10:28they said that prisoner comment Maybe
2:10:31my it was a comment like I'm not gonna
2:10:34have a timestamp for that yeah maybe it
2:10:38was I don't know if it was over Ace time
2:10:39or something
2:10:45but you didn't think much of it you're
2:10:46just like oh he's just complaining that
2:10:48he's not able to leave yep okay I mean
2:10:51he's allowed to vent to me right his
2:10:54girlfriend so I just thought he was
2:10:55venting okay like when you're frustrated
2:10:57it's better to get it out there instead
2:10:58of bottle it in like we've all said
2:11:00things that we don't mean when we're bad
2:11:01let's be real
2:11:03okay
2:11:06with you
2:11:11um also did you drop a pen I probably my
2:11:14red one yeah because I was like I don't
2:11:15want to rip drape right in Red so
2:11:18um
2:11:20any other cell phones that you know that
2:11:22Chandler uses
2:11:24old one is that from like High School
2:11:27he uses it not uses it like he just has
2:11:30it it's like in his desk he showed me it
2:11:33like Sunday and it's dead
2:11:36any [snorts] reason why he still has it
2:11:38photos
2:11:40is it like a smartphone yeah like an
2:11:43iPhone okay
2:11:45um
2:11:46yeah he showed me it before has photos
2:11:49of like high school like with his
2:11:51friends with his dog Sawyer who died
2:11:53seemed like his graduation day senior
2:11:56year oh awful yeah so
2:11:59just a lot of memories on there and
2:12:00that's why he keeps it okay
2:12:04do you know of um parents having any
2:12:07other phones that they use did they
2:12:10accidentally leave any phones at the
2:12:13house not that I saw okay bit off Mitch
2:12:15and Chandler were like when they were
2:12:18doing their walk through if they saw
2:12:20like hey mom actually forgot her phone
2:12:22her dad did or they would have brought
2:12:25it up
2:12:25they told me something is
2:12:30the bar already
2:12:33sorry
2:12:35but no but he would have mentioned
2:12:37something to me okay it's not holding
2:12:40anything back
2:12:41like he sent me text updates like sorry
2:12:43still with cops like cops are over okay
2:12:47yeah
2:12:49okay
2:12:51did he see anything
2:12:53um
2:12:55did so was this a planned trip up to the
2:12:58cabin or how did that work news to us
2:13:01Thursday like it sounded very last
2:13:02minute okay any reason it is
2:13:06wanted to get away
2:13:09trip to the cabin these possibilities
2:13:11have fun okay
2:13:13do you guys think it's Chandler or
2:13:14something we're just making sure that
2:13:16we're okay because you're asking a lot
2:13:18of questions about them but I am that's
2:13:19what my friends and I were talking about
2:13:20we're like okay he's like the only one
2:13:21who lives with them so and like he's the
2:13:23only one I have a relationship with like
2:13:26I'm not you know Caitlyn I'm not I can't
2:13:28answer questions about Mitch right but
2:13:30it's still like
2:13:32because like
2:13:34it does shock I will feel and like I
2:13:37think I'll just be so mentally [ __ ] up
2:13:38if like I found out he did that like
2:13:41it just seems not Chandler at all yeah
2:13:48sweaty day
2:13:50who's the what's the channel like that
2:13:52you know what is Chandler like the the
2:13:55person Chandler is to you what is he
2:13:57like
2:14:00my boyfriend loves Star Wars fishing
2:14:04like
2:14:06I'll pretend to be mad and be like Oh
2:14:08Han what I do this time
2:14:10old man pretty much he has a raise okay
2:14:14did I just get locked in no he got
2:14:17locked out okay I was like
2:14:19loves
2:14:25fishing gaming
2:14:32so let's talk about Mitchell quick
2:14:34brother so you saw him today
2:14:41um when was the last time you guys saw
2:14:43him Father's Day luncheon brunch dinner
2:14:46thing so it's been a while for Father's
2:14:48Day all right the 23rd or 26th or
2:14:50something like that 26th I believe
2:14:52that's when he had that diabetes attack
2:14:54and like you could tell he did because
2:14:58they were at the table Mr halderson was
2:15:01in like a little chair they have there a
2:15:03Chandler and I were like 20th no I was
2:15:05here and then Chandler was on like
2:15:07another couch over there and like she
2:15:08looks like let's go in the basement like
2:15:10I'm sure he doesn't want to staring at
2:15:11him you know
2:15:13he's having a hard time with like the
2:15:15whole diabetes thing and like when he
2:15:17was counting as Kyle Luis like all this
2:15:19day downstairs his fiance and his mom
2:15:22like when he gave himself insulin only
2:15:24his mom would like his fiance was there
2:15:26we all went upstairs you know to give
2:15:27him privacy and
2:15:29but
2:15:31um June 20th was Mother's Day did he
2:15:33have any conversations it
2:15:36was on a different day
2:15:38but
2:15:39uh 20
2:15:4226th I believe
2:15:46was
2:15:49Chandler and
2:15:51Mitchell talking a lot this weekend on
2:15:52the phone were they texting or chatting
2:15:54uh I was there when they called on
2:15:57Sunday but I also showed you the text
2:15:59message Mitch and I had so yeah talked
2:16:02about what we would do for like my
2:16:03birthday and I jokingly said let's go to
2:16:05a strip club
2:16:07so
2:16:08why did um Chandler call Mitch on Sunday
2:16:13see what his plan is how is he doing
2:16:15like his fiance was gone because I think
2:16:18she was with her family for okay the
2:16:20fourth but so we stayed home with Chloe
2:16:22his dog
2:16:23okay
2:16:25what's he drive
2:16:28Mitch driving [ __ ] doesn't drive
2:16:30Caitlyn drives him everywhere oh um I
2:16:33think he has a Subaru in their garage he
2:16:36just doesn't like driving
2:16:38is there a license
2:16:39they have one vehicle they have two he
2:16:42has a car he has a license he just
2:16:43doesn't like driving
2:16:45so like when they go places Caitlyn's
2:16:46driving yeah okay so
2:16:50Subaru
2:16:51Subaru car I think okay and then what's
2:16:54the other car
2:16:55her car's a Forester I believe I also
2:16:58they have two Subaru's yeah Subaru
2:17:01family
2:17:05so when he came over to the house today
2:17:06what was the conversation like between
2:17:07Mitch and Chandler
2:17:10uh just
2:17:12hey how are you
2:17:14like showing him the keys that he found
2:17:16like taking him upstairs like hey please
2:17:18look around see if I missed anything
2:17:21so Chandler is telling Mitchell to
2:17:23look around the house see if I missed
2:17:25anything yeah like do you know like do
2:17:27you know what these keys go to like do
2:17:28you think they're the spares for the
2:17:29cabin like Mitch took them with him to
2:17:31see
2:17:32um
2:17:34like
2:17:35she
2:17:37said Mitch was being short with him
2:17:38today you know but they're under stress
2:17:40so makes sense
2:17:42and like
2:17:44um they're like um did they leave you
2:17:46already knows and like you show them
2:17:48they'll do they usually leave this like
2:17:49is this a normal thing and he's like no
2:17:52and Mitchell's like because he had your
2:17:53appointment Monday right because like
2:17:55yeah
2:17:57and he was like yeah that's exactly why
2:18:01um
2:18:02and like
2:18:04they went like
2:18:05I think to the garage to look at the
2:18:07cars too to see if like
2:18:09they notice anything in like the
2:18:11basement but like I told Liz I just sat
2:18:13on the couch gave them their time for
2:18:16every time brother plus Caitlyn time
2:18:18because Caitlyn will dot on Mitch
2:18:21is there any yelling between the two of
2:18:23them yeah
2:18:26did you ever have any friends come visit
2:18:27him this weekend yeah
2:18:29no not that I was aware of no
2:18:32whoa
2:18:35um Rose she has a
2:18:38boyfriend
2:18:39no Heroes no James her brother I'm sorry
2:18:44I met James your brother
2:18:46um do they hang out
2:18:47Mitch and Jane not Chandler Chandler
2:18:50James yeah they're friends when they're
2:18:52when Chandler's over they'll talk but
2:18:55they're not like
2:18:57who do you say is Chandler's closest
2:18:59friend
2:19:00Smith
2:19:02and Smith's back in kids in Kansas he
2:19:05was there for like a day
2:19:07stopped ahead I was at breakfast or
2:19:09dinner or something breakfast hung out
2:19:11all day like
2:19:13we went swimming in the Wisconsin River
2:19:16shot him around took him to Culver's
2:19:18never had it before Smith from here
2:19:20Kansas still no I know what I'm saying
2:19:22is he from up here no where do they meet
2:19:24at video games okay video games
2:19:28so Smith came up to visit because I met
2:19:31video gaming
2:19:33hung out a day and then
2:19:35pretty much
2:19:40okay my friends are like oh where are
2:19:42you sure
2:19:44hold on
2:19:45so you don't think there's any way that
2:19:49um
2:19:49Chandler's involved in The Disappearance
2:19:52no I told Liz that like if it's Chandler
2:19:54I'm gonna be severely mentally [ __ ] up
2:19:56after this like I just
2:19:58I just can't see it being him like
2:20:02if it was would you would you help him
2:20:05[ __ ] no I'm sorry excuse my French like
2:20:09that's [ __ ] crazy like
2:20:11I could no like I'm sorry like
2:20:15I I can't stand blood like blood scares
2:20:17me
2:20:18like
2:20:20dead bodies like I was good at the
2:20:22sections but like that's animals but
2:20:24like
2:20:25killing people
2:20:26especially like Mr and Mrs hollison I'm
2:20:29sorry that's like
2:20:30different levels of [ __ ] up
2:20:33like I'm sorry that I'm freaking out now
2:20:35but like
2:20:36like
2:20:38um [clears throat]
2:20:39but no but you had nothing to do with
2:20:42their disappearance no you don't think
2:20:45Chandler did you think anybody Mitchell
2:20:48do you think he would have anything to
2:20:49do with it no I just can't see
2:20:52people wanting to hurt them
2:20:55that's why we're so worried like we
2:20:57don't know who would do this then
2:20:59like
2:21:02okay a parts of us are like wishing like
2:21:04they're just like Casino blowing all
2:21:06their money and they're gonna be in debt
2:21:08or something like
2:21:09that I got gambling before not that I'm
2:21:12aware of it's just a Wishful thought
2:21:14yeah okay
2:21:16okay
2:21:19let me just uh
2:21:20make one more check I think we're about
2:21:22done
2:21:27you're fine that's just the desk yeah
2:21:31it's crusty in here
2:21:48do
2:21:56you see how much dust there is on that
2:21:57panel yeah it doesn't surprise me
2:22:02so
2:22:04a couple questions one
2:22:10what would the possibility be for us to
2:22:13take your cell phone and analyze it
2:22:16we're trying to verify some things that
2:22:19right
2:22:21so I mean you have all the pictures so
2:22:25we have a guy that could download it
2:22:27while you're here like you wouldn't have
2:22:29to leave it with us
2:22:31he can limit what he
2:22:33looks that I'm not gonna lie we don't
2:22:37have we don't care about those
2:22:39okay we don't all we care about is
2:22:42text messages from you
2:22:44Chandler Snapchat history
2:22:48any Social Media stuff and we're really
2:22:50just looking for probably
2:22:54what do you say this first until the
2:22:57first until today
2:22:59July 1st until today yeah locations on
2:23:02what she said but yeah if there's any
2:23:04like inappropriate photos I totally
2:23:06don't care about those
2:23:09nope no we're not gonna we don't even
2:23:11want to look at it they've been sent
2:23:13through text stay on snap I don't want
2:23:16to look at it so
2:23:17I don't know if the animals got to look
2:23:19at it he's gonna just so the way that he
2:23:21can do it is just do it from a certain
2:23:23parameter so July 1st or 2nd until today
2:23:26totally go just from that everything
2:23:30else we don't go through all of your
2:23:32stuff it's just a very specific time and
2:23:35the only reason that we're doing it is
2:23:36just to make sure that we have all the
2:23:39time stamps right so you said that you
2:23:40and Chandler are together at this time
2:23:42and you have the proof to back it up
2:23:44that's really what we need it for
2:23:47can I get a pinky you can't break pinky
2:23:50promises that it's only gonna be from
2:23:51July 1st
2:23:53so yes yeah okay that's what you want I
2:23:57would like a pinky on that I can pinky
2:23:59you
2:24:03awesome
2:24:05do you have an email
2:24:07what's your email your birthday
2:24:09no what's your birthday is your eight
2:24:11zero three zero zero okay I was like
2:24:14that just looks so familiar so yeah at
2:24:16gmail you said
2:24:22uh
2:24:31it's Face Unlock can we unlock it
2:24:33without the face this way you can do it
2:24:35let me see if I can remember the
2:24:36password he's actually about to leave
2:24:37when we're making him stay in case you
2:24:39said yes we can get it done you went
2:24:40back to you three five seven eight
2:24:43three five seven eight
2:24:45okay just line up that's it locks
2:24:49foreign
2:25:00thank
2:25:02you yes
2:25:04try first
2:25:06don't care about any buttholes promise I
2:25:09care about my butthole I don't want to
2:25:11see it so I promise We're not gonna be
2:25:13trying to grab it yeah it was time to
2:25:16pretty much Chandler so yeah
2:25:18oh that's fun
2:25:20can't send it to anyone else
2:25:23also is this like a two-way mirror type
2:25:26thing going on
2:25:28so it used to be
2:25:31um Bluetooth irrigation room
2:25:34um no I don't think so I think that was
2:25:37and maybe an office or they tried to
2:25:39make it an office and we're like that
2:25:41room is like a closet so it's like I
2:25:44don't even know why they did a window
2:25:47so we just want to make it look pretty
2:25:48with these awesome blush curtains
2:25:52it matches the decor the Pepto-Bismol
2:25:55flavor Dusty Decor that we have
2:26:01so [snorts] what do you have the time
2:26:038 11.
2:26:07I'm tired too
2:26:11I promise you that
2:26:14just by your cooperate so we can get
2:26:16them found yeah that's all we want yeah
2:26:19we just need to figure out what's going
2:26:21on we just are missing something
2:26:24yeah I talked to my friends about it
2:26:26like I have nothing to hide so I was
2:26:28like talking about I was like oh it just
2:26:30makes zero sense everything like
2:26:33there's just too many different things
2:26:35thrown in there and it's like you just
2:26:37can't find how they all connect you know
2:26:40and I'm like my phone helps my phone
2:26:42helps you know right
2:26:44it does help because you take pictures
2:26:45of everything
2:26:46so it totally helps
2:26:49I know your mom is worried because you
2:26:51haven't eaten much she said yeah we had
2:26:54pork chops I had half a little pork
2:26:56chops some brussels sprouts and like a
2:26:59slice of cardboard Pizza pretty much
2:27:03I'll be okay I drank plenty of water to
2:27:06keep me going and I'm sure Chandler's
2:27:07trying to do the same
2:27:11he
2:27:12took a couple bites of his brussels
2:27:14sprouts and like I think he said he had
2:27:16a slice of pizza but he just can't eat
2:27:18you know when you're just too worried
2:27:20you just can't
2:27:23so I made him an oatmeal coffee yeah
2:27:26that was fast oh we're not done he's he
2:27:29has to work his magic
2:27:31so we might as well just like keep
2:27:33talking with you
2:27:35um made him some oat milk coffee because
2:27:37you know we're getting into that oat
2:27:39milk or both lactose intolerant
2:27:42so
2:27:43okay and I used to work at so I worked
2:27:46at Target and so I flooded over to the
2:27:47Starbucks in Target
2:27:50love to live coffee oatmeal lattes and
2:27:53if you go to like a Target
2:27:55you can like buy their like cold coffees
2:27:57in the freezers and they have one that's
2:28:00slightly sweetened now because these
2:28:01only have ensuite
2:28:03and so I do that with oat milk and like
2:28:06ice and he loves it
2:28:08loves it so much so trying to make sure
2:28:11he eats comfort food because I found
2:28:12that helps me when I'm upset and can't
2:28:15eat so
2:28:19so in cases like this disappearance
2:28:21cases things we like to do to people
2:28:23that especially like the house challenge
2:28:27we like to get consensual what we call
2:28:30DNA Buckle swabs from people that's
2:28:32where we put a Q-tip in the mouth in
2:28:33this rubber cheek that's just to see
2:28:36whose DNA is in there and where
2:28:39um
2:28:40can we get your DNA a quick it takes 10
2:28:43seconds
2:28:44is that down the throat or up the nose
2:28:46you don't really draw blood or anything
2:28:48fun I'm scared of needles so bad
2:28:50literally you open your mouth I rub One
2:28:52Cheek or rub the other and we're done
2:28:54maybe less than 10 seconds
2:28:56that's your call
2:29:00just helps because obviously we're
2:29:03going to be in the house right you were
2:29:05showering there yeah sneezing you know
2:29:08what I mean you'll see my hair on her
2:29:09hairbrush because right use her hair
2:29:11dryer so it's just like we just gotta
2:29:13say that you are the person that we're
2:29:16collecting far enough
2:29:19I actually have one
2:29:21I don't know if I want a sweaty binder
2:29:23one
2:29:25really I put this in here two days ago
2:29:28sweaty did you leave it in a car
2:29:33oh yeah just like medications you're not
2:29:35supposed to do that it's a Q-tip
2:29:37doesn't matter
2:29:42all right for University of medical
2:29:44microbiology I just love my own feces Oh
2:29:47that's disgusting so we're not doing
2:29:48anything like that
2:29:51foreign
2:29:55of
2:30:02my body so what was the purpose of it
2:30:05like does it use different augers
2:30:09use like antibiotics in it to see like
2:30:12which were effective what were around
2:30:14them I feel like my equal like I I had
2:30:19the healthiest get there
2:30:30you say that there's a lot of research
2:30:31in that that we're not really doing so
2:30:35it's kind of interesting
2:30:37people are like oh equally awful I'm
2:30:39like but you have
2:30:42right
2:30:44the first half is going to have more
2:30:45bacteria than the middle half which is
2:30:48going to have the normal contents
2:30:51interesting
2:30:53hmm
2:30:55I want to give you a form
2:30:57so basically just says you're
2:30:59volunteering voluntarily giving the Dane
2:31:02County Sheriff's Office consent to
2:31:03collect a buckle cell sample
2:31:05sample we use for investigative purposes
2:31:07it's been explained to me and I fully
2:31:09understand the results of the analysis
2:31:11of my Buckle sample may be used as
2:31:13evidence against me any promo proceeding
2:31:16we don't think you're obviously guilty
2:31:18of anything thank you I have too bad of
2:31:21anxiety I will pray if someone heals
2:31:24them do I print your first last name and
2:31:26then your birthday and then sign here I
2:31:29might as well witness it is this going
2:31:31to be put into like a database or is
2:31:33this like one time no one time yes this
2:31:35is gonna be this is just for us
2:31:37[clears throat] yeah this doesn't go
2:31:39into like the prime lab or anything like
2:31:40that I'm not gonna
2:31:42be found guilty because he plays
2:31:44evidence right and we're not gonna phone
2:31:46you no planting evidence okay
2:31:50I'm not smart enough
2:31:55middle name too
2:31:56just your initial this time
2:32:11I think I didn't go to work
2:32:13something crazy if you saw me leaving a
2:32:15car
2:32:21oh I would have been like we did last
2:32:23night where it'd be like an unmarked
2:32:25I would just sit in a car for like five
2:32:27hours I know this is definitely way more
2:32:29comfortable
2:32:32I like having access to a bathroom and
2:32:34water
2:32:41we try to make it as comfortable as
2:32:42possible like we just need some
2:32:45information I
2:32:46think I'll need some new couches
2:32:49well we'll let the sheriff know maybe
2:32:51it'll be in the next budget St John Van
2:32:53didn't hear his granddaughter was very
2:32:54unsatisfied with the quality don't do a
2:32:57Yelp review when did he retire from the
2:32:59farmers you know remember when
2:33:01probably about 20 years ago
2:33:07seriously it depends because like I
2:33:10don't know if you'll still hear me like
2:33:11helped out at the Olympics you know it's
2:33:13like
2:33:15because whenever the Olympics was passed
2:33:18in America I know they were there 96
2:33:21yeah in Atlanta
2:33:24I watched the Summer Olympics I think
2:33:26they did winter they had winter coats
2:33:27they show this
2:33:29that might not have been 96 no no I
2:33:32don't know
2:33:36thank you just in case you want to frame
2:33:38it take a picture like I was in a cop
2:33:41car and my mom's gonna hit me now but
2:33:43she won't hit me for legal reasons this
2:33:45is a joke thank you
2:33:49also
2:33:50I did buy into my cheeks so please be
2:33:52gentle with the sign don't got married
2:33:55perfect
2:33:57no hand no cookie anything in there no
2:34:00it's been on my wallet oh nasty yeah I
2:34:03know you can shine oh totally
2:34:07nothing would make you more happy Star
2:34:10Wars see the little baby Yoda are yeah
2:34:18so let's open your mouth stop swab pull
2:34:20it out hold it I got the other one no
2:34:22small Squad we're done go with this I
2:34:25don't Focus I love you too
2:34:29ready
2:34:37you know that I was gonna hold it
2:34:48thank
2:34:50you
2:34:51super like painless yeah I think people
2:34:54would be gentle they shoved it like down
2:34:56my throat
2:34:57oh geez it's not like the corona like
2:35:00test or anything like no I'm talking
2:35:01about his class or a cheek sample oh wow
2:35:03yeah
2:35:11have a person saved me once because they
2:35:12had one done and they said it was just
2:35:13like they were jamming they're cheap
2:35:15really hard
2:35:17it's like a
2:35:22Evan and sticker
2:35:24you know what we can't open it can't be
2:35:28altered
2:35:30foreign
2:35:34I
2:35:42do a lot of things but lion is not one
2:35:44of them good
2:35:48the channel give you guys oh you guys
2:35:50don't know can I put in a few yeah
2:36:00and we'll see what's going on with
2:36:02Chandler yeah
2:36:13is he on his way home
2:36:22hello Prince George
2:36:25I tried
2:36:27harder
2:36:33are people usually use cooperative
2:36:36and we don't have any reason for them
2:36:38not to be right
2:36:42want them found
2:36:44yeah I would like to go back to work
2:36:46without trying
2:36:50sometimes work is a good distraction but
2:36:52as I Transit going to be too
2:36:53overwhelming I have to count 510 Tech
2:36:56aligners
2:36:58After I filled it yesterday near 540.
2:37:01yeah there's a dose change last minute
2:37:03so it was only 30 less pills same
2:37:07strength
2:37:11what is that meant for
2:37:13um so this patient uh they so a lot of
2:37:16hazardous are used for like transplant
2:37:18patients or like
2:37:20um people who have cancer or
2:37:22chemotherapy going on HIV and that
2:37:24stuff's usually like non-hazardous
2:37:27um it depends so
2:37:29in this great patient they were
2:37:31transportation
2:37:33so
2:37:38they need a lot of it if you could take
2:37:40three pills morning four pills night
2:37:43foreign
2:38:02my eyes
2:38:04for sure I cry so much
2:38:07like I'm a huge baby I'm not gonna lie
2:38:13it's all right
2:38:15better that you get it out the bottle of
2:38:17them and pretend everything is fine
2:38:19I see enough of those people I see
2:38:22enough of those people where it's like
2:38:23just tell me what's going on
2:38:26it's like
2:38:28I just can't keep stuff in like that you
2:38:30know it's just too hard
2:38:33I'll just like explode or something
2:38:39they all process things in our own way
2:38:40and mine's just like please help me
2:38:45it's very healthy
2:38:50so your mom's in medical you're in
2:38:53medical Brothers police officer you have
2:38:56one more brother what does he do he goes
2:38:58to Edgewood for it and he um works at
2:39:01AFS which is the construction
2:39:02manufacturing company
2:39:05um the one that the ex-girlfriend's dad
2:39:08owns oh yeah yeah that's the T
2:39:13um and he and my brother that's a cop uh
2:39:16did CrossFit oh do they are they gonna
2:39:19like compete they compete but like not
2:39:22at the CrossFit games that's so hard to
2:39:24get into oh is it inexpensive you have
2:39:26to pay okay
2:39:29um
2:39:29yeah
2:39:31like Grandpa John used to work here
2:39:33grandma Marine she was a nurse
2:39:36practitioner Commodore for the Coast
2:39:38Guard oh wow yeah I ranked my grandpa
2:39:41that's her big thing there you go yeah
2:39:43they're both volunteered EMTs
2:39:46very cool yeah
2:39:49so you said that your mom was a
2:39:51immigrant
2:39:52for most of them when did she come here
2:39:56eons ago
2:39:57maybe 30 years ago oh wow yeah
2:40:01when my oldest brother ooh that was a
2:40:03baby okay
2:40:06have you been in Wisconsin the whole
2:40:09time
2:40:11I know I was crying about how I'm scared
2:40:13of needles but my brothers and I all
2:40:14have a matching tattoo
2:40:17um one of the reasons that's because
2:40:17Jeffrey Dahmer said people who have like
2:40:19ink on their skin tastes weird so
2:40:21cannibals don't like them oh okay that's
2:40:23all I gotta say and it's like an outline
2:40:25of Wisconsin because you know
2:40:27Wisconsin's home one of those cheesy
2:40:29things so we all have it on our left
2:40:32shoulders
2:40:34people mom does it no she called me 12
2:40:38times and cried oh really yeah in her
2:40:41culture and especially in Mexico only
2:40:43people who are like criminals get
2:40:45tattoos
2:40:46especially in her like her family
2:40:49it's a big No-No she's crying about how
2:40:52I'm never gonna be married am I I'm
2:40:54going to die and like I'm I'm gonna be
2:40:57arrested
2:40:59you know this isn't helping
2:41:01but you're not arrested yeah thank you
2:41:05like you told your mom you can leave
2:41:07whenever you want
2:41:09is my phone back yeah yeah
2:41:11soon just George it's just George
2:41:15I don't even come with a cookie or
2:41:17anything yeah like
2:41:18um because
2:41:20sorry
2:41:23um I know you didn't go in the basement
2:41:25at all this weekend right so I was only
2:41:28at the outside of the house yesterday
2:41:30and it was for
2:41:32minutes
2:41:34so when you come off the driveway how do
2:41:37you guys get into the house if you hit
2:41:38the code of the garage door
2:41:41front door okay do you generally go
2:41:44through the front door okay
2:41:46like if he doesn't have his key we go
2:41:48through the garage but he almost always
2:41:50has his keys on a thread lanyard wears
2:41:52it around his neck
2:41:58if he's like
2:42:01his parents are home like sometimes I'll
2:42:02park closer in front of the garage if
2:42:04his parents don't plan on leaving and
2:42:05like go through them
2:42:07like garage door there but not as often
2:42:10as it goes through the front door
2:42:16honestly depends on the day let's
2:42:19understand
2:42:20I was thirsty
2:42:22we can get you more water too it's okay
2:42:24I'll pee myself
2:42:36let's see if
2:42:38it's a wonderful
2:42:41okay is he doing it here
2:42:42okay
2:42:48so do you listen back on the tape
2:42:49recorders often or no
2:42:51sometimes yeah
2:42:54because believe it or not I miss things
2:42:56all the time
2:42:57so I try to write all my notes but
2:43:00I forget things or I
2:43:03misinterpret things and that's why it's
2:43:06really nice that you are like clarifying
2:43:08everything
2:43:09especially yesterday when we talked it
2:43:11was raining so it's hard to
2:43:13yeah so it's just nice of you coming on
2:43:16back
2:43:18I also know I jump around a lot
2:43:22so
2:43:23mm-hmm
2:43:26do you know what channel is going to be
2:43:27done
2:43:29yeah
2:43:31um
2:43:31I mean I think they're done yeah they um
2:43:34sounds like he's not quite as
2:43:36Cooperative as you
2:43:39okay
2:43:41any reason why
2:43:43it's probably worried you guys are gonna
2:43:44be like Chandler did it
2:43:46I think that's everyone's fear yeah like
2:43:49no one wants to be accused of killing
2:43:50their parents
2:43:52I'm also I think just a very
2:43:54understanding person
2:43:56I look for the best and everything okay
2:43:58but no
2:44:00um well
2:44:02right now because he's not being so
2:44:04Cooperative or forthcoming his parents
2:44:06are missing it looks like they're going
2:44:07to take him into custody
2:44:09are you serious I don't know what the
2:44:11charges are yet but
2:44:12um right now it's just gonna be because
2:44:14the missing person's investigation and
2:44:16him
2:44:17lying lying
2:44:19to the detectives uh why he's lying
2:44:24I mean I you know
2:44:26we're all wondering
2:44:28um tonight you probably know him best
2:44:30why do you why do you think he's not
2:44:32being truthful
2:44:36he doesn't want to depend on
2:44:39it can I talk to him before he goes or
2:44:41no I think they've already walked him
2:44:43down why
2:44:47did you ask why
2:44:49sorry I just no good
2:44:52depending on them do you think
2:44:54do you think he could have had anything
2:44:55to do with this
2:44:57and if you did you think there's any
2:44:58help in him to disappearance did anybody
2:45:00help him could anybody have helped him
2:45:03hmm
2:45:06okay it's weird is trying to find out
2:45:08where his parents are and
2:45:10the sad thing is when you have someone
2:45:11that lives in the house with them and
2:45:13they're
2:45:14lying and not cooperating
2:45:17what is he lying about I don't know okay
2:45:20I don't know because we we were in with
2:45:22you so we have other detectives that
2:45:24were talking to him
2:45:30that's great I mean you've been
2:45:32super Cooperative trying to get your
2:45:34phone back
2:45:35if it's not gonna be done anytime soon
2:45:38we can get you a ride somewhere have
2:45:40someone pick you up can I get a ride
2:45:42back to Chandler's that's where my car
2:45:43is and I'm so sweetest brother there
2:45:45that's gonna be something else I glad
2:45:48you said that
2:45:49so they're probably going to want to
2:45:52leave they're going to leave your car
2:45:53there no at the house because he was in
2:45:56it all weekend
2:45:57no I'm sorry and I have places to be
2:46:01that's my car like
2:46:04if I'm being cooperative why do you have
2:46:05to take my car because Chandler's not
2:46:08and he was in your car so there's chance
2:46:10that there's DNA in there
2:46:13that we need to get but don't have to
2:46:16like consent to that or you need like a
2:46:18court order of something just that his
2:46:20house are looking at they're looking at
2:46:21writing a warrant at the house
2:46:23so if they write a warrant at the house
2:46:24your car is in the driveway they're
2:46:26going to want because he was in there
2:46:28they're worried about him
2:46:30the detectives really think that he
2:46:32probably had something
2:46:34you know maybe to do with with The
2:46:37Disappearance so right now we have to
2:46:39investigate all all avenues and I know I
2:46:43want to know where they are you want to
2:46:44know where they are
2:46:46um
2:46:51can I at least grab my clothes from
2:46:53inside of there what yeah what do you
2:46:55think what you have to do what do you
2:46:56have in there
2:46:57bags of clothes your dirty laundry yeah
2:47:00let's always clean some of it's dirty
2:47:03you know what's what what's weird
2:47:07and then my toiletries are in his house
2:47:09I showered there
2:47:10I prefer I have a bag of clothes inside
2:47:14so we can't everything in the house
2:47:17stays in the house
2:47:19foreign
2:47:20just because it's a potential crime
2:47:22scene
2:47:25so because we don't know what's going on
2:47:27we have to very very treat this like
2:47:30something happen
2:47:33like right now is kind of like
2:47:36it's like the game hangman you know you
2:47:38get to try to fill in the word
2:47:40you know we'll give you a few in the
2:47:42beginning it's like
2:47:43you know
2:47:45okay we're trying to fill in the blanks
2:47:47and to do that generally it's a lot
2:47:50easier when everybody cooperates like if
2:47:52everybody's as Cooperative as you we
2:47:53fill in the blanks right away and we all
2:47:56move on with our day for the most part
2:47:57like your phone we're trying to get done
2:47:59right right away yeah I know um let me
2:48:01get you my keys
2:48:02your
2:48:04um yeah that makes it easier
2:48:09I'm not happy about this I'm sorry I
2:48:12have a lot of my underwear in that car
2:48:15oh I like having underwear I don't know
2:48:19about you oh yeah I like wearing
2:48:21underwear if
2:48:23I just take
2:48:24our key only
2:48:27I need the fob to drive
2:48:31thank
2:48:34you
2:48:38what
2:48:40are you thinking
2:48:44it's not cooperating
2:48:50I don't know like I said he probably
2:48:52just doesn't want to be like
2:48:54you know
2:48:57how to do it I don't want to be like I
2:48:59don't want them to pin it on me you know
2:49:01if I told you he was lying to them about
2:49:02some things that we know otherwise would
2:49:04that shock you
2:49:07foreign
2:49:08yeah I don't know if you saw me I was
2:49:10shocked I thought he was cooperating too
2:49:17is our stuff that I'm saying not
2:49:18matching
2:49:20again oh no idea it's
2:49:24like we found out about him making the
2:49:25comment
2:49:26well feeling like he's a prisoner I love
2:49:29it wasn't our conversation that was
2:49:30another interview that's being done by
2:49:31another detective of someone else who
2:49:33but um
2:49:35you know honestly that's not I mean
2:49:38obviously that's not why they would take
2:49:41him into custody
2:49:43um but it's
2:49:44you know
2:49:46I had to start with the detector of
2:49:47doing the interview can I go pee again
2:49:50yeah not
2:49:53for any reason do you want to call
2:49:54anybody right now you guys have my phone
2:49:57I only know my mom's number okay am
2:50:02I still gonna get my phone before we go
2:50:04yeah [clears throat]
2:50:26thank you
2:50:51come on
2:51:12break at 8 36 pm
2:51:27hello
2:51:49thank you
2:51:59so
2:52:01I talked to the detective yeah I'm like
2:52:05hey man is your phone done my response
2:52:07was there's no way of knowing when it's
2:52:09going to be done until it's almost done
2:52:12I will sit my little ass here okay
2:52:17do you want to go grab anything
2:52:19there's like food around like obviously
2:52:22the square is here so can I agree with
2:52:24anything or maybe just like fresh air
2:52:32so there's like no way I can talk
2:52:37downstairs
2:52:39is that where the like jail is
2:52:46foreign
2:52:56take a walk good
2:52:59okay
2:53:01ready for a nice step out for a second
2:53:02leave you with your thoughts in here
2:53:04we'll be
2:53:06here anything amazing
2:53:08okay
2:53:09I
2:53:11think the phone I don't think I said
2:53:14an hour or anything I'm gonna get
2:53:16another
2:53:54foreign
2:54:06badge
2:54:10for work your ID badge yeah okay it just
2:54:13says Captain under pharmacy tech okay
2:54:16where's [snorts] that is it hanging up
2:54:18on the
2:54:19I think it might be like in the cubby
2:54:21area
2:54:22okay picture of you
2:54:24there's like a heart with like pills
2:54:27inside that smiling pills okay is
2:54:31your medication or anything in there
2:54:32that you need
2:54:34I have old be appropion but I don't take
2:54:36it anymore okay do you know how much
2:54:39longer I'll call right now
2:54:46oh
2:54:50foreign
2:55:15so there's no way I can talk to him
2:55:19so I guess you'll be all probably use
2:55:22one at some point
2:55:25how long are they gonna hold them
2:55:31uh well it depends on when he sees the
2:55:32judge I have to see the judge take it
2:55:35out
2:55:36it could be tomorrow could be after that
2:55:42I think I can go
2:55:44I can't just see him
2:55:47I'm sorry
2:55:49to do tell you anything else or can I
2:55:52not know
2:55:53I'm actually about to do something else
2:55:55real quick
2:55:57um there's that much
2:55:59not much
2:56:01is anyone told his brother
2:56:06's expecting us
2:56:12right back
2:56:21laughs
2:56:38[snorts]
2:56:56how
2:56:58[snorts] are you where'd you find the
2:56:59sucker
2:57:00uh George foreign
2:57:03so here's water I know you said that
2:57:05you're fine before but I just wanna
2:57:07make sure that you're hydrated you have
2:57:09to go to the bathroom at all okay
2:57:12um
2:57:14where are the dogs like leashes
2:57:18fish should be hanging or like
2:57:22um when you walk by the garage and
2:57:25there's a door in front of it like kind
2:57:27of
2:57:28but not the front door when you go in
2:57:30there's like a coat rack
2:57:32in the car
2:57:33maybe under gloves I think
2:57:38where's their food
2:57:41um in the kitchen
2:57:44there's [snorts]
2:57:44uh by the window by the table there's
2:57:47like containers like that like
2:57:50Rubbermaid bins or whatever no they're
2:57:52like taller you'd think they'd be trash
2:57:54and recycling but it's their table okay
2:57:56do they eat the same stuff yeah but they
2:57:59[clears throat] have slow feeding holes
2:58:01the ones with the little like knocks in
2:58:03it or whatever yeah
2:58:05[snorts]
2:58:09okay your mom's just making
2:58:10okay so I'm just making sure that you're
2:58:12okay do you need anything
2:58:14did you tell her he was booked or no no
2:58:18[snorts] did anyone call Ridge
2:58:21I don't know I can find out
2:58:24um if that's
2:58:26okay
2:58:28yeah I [snorts]
2:58:29can try to find his number and then this
2:58:31phone works as far as I know so we can
2:58:35let you use this one too it's on my
2:58:37phone
2:58:38I don't have your phone but I think I
2:58:40have Mitch's number okay
2:58:49[snorts]
2:59:06hi haven't heard back yet about the
2:59:09phone I'll call him
2:59:11been
2:59:12how's it been to court after nine
2:59:15technically if you sign that sheet up
2:59:18um
2:59:26do I think
2:59:29so come on maybe close to an hour
2:59:47foreign
3:00:16[snorts]
3:00:21oh
3:00:23uh so here's the deal Cold Water full
3:00:28still on stuff number one
3:00:31he's like she must have just a lot of
3:00:33stuff like yeah yeah probably steps
3:00:35harder he's like well
3:00:37there's this and we've got to go through
3:00:38that and then he's like one of the last
3:00:40steps is text messages is she's a big
3:00:43texter then it's going to take longer
3:00:45if you like a video SnapChat person I'm
3:00:47like I think so
3:00:49so his response was I wish I could tell
3:00:51you 10 minutes but it could be 10 hours
3:00:5410 hours I don't think it's gonna be
3:00:55that long but I don't know if you said
3:00:58an hour or 10 hours I said 10.
3:01:01we've had phones that have gone like
3:01:03that and we've had phones that have
3:01:04taken
3:01:05forever
3:01:09either on your phone
3:01:11generally like yeah so my question is
3:01:15that being the case
3:01:20when it's done
3:01:22we will get it to you right away but you
3:01:24want to go to your mom's house
3:01:26I think they're at the farm
3:01:29I want to call Mitch first to see what
3:01:31he wants to do
3:01:33were you able to get his number
3:01:35um so we have a detective Bennett who
3:01:37has been in contact with Rich so they're
3:01:39kind of coordinating everything and
3:01:41Mitch is going to take care of the dogs
3:01:44he's going to get the dogs and
3:01:46all of that stuff
3:01:48still waiting I believe you and we just
3:01:52have to
3:01:54obviously just make sure everything is
3:01:56kind of organized and I know everyone's
3:01:58mind is just going a million miles a
3:02:00minute
3:02:00could [snorts] we get you at uh mom's
3:02:02house where's Mom at the farmer yeah
3:02:04she's in Cottage Grove
3:02:08are you there and then you can get a
3:02:09hold of mention
3:02:10to do and I promise I mean if it's three
3:02:13o'clock and it finishes it'll hopefully
3:02:15be in bed sleeping but tomorrow morning
3:02:17would get your phone right away but if
3:02:18we finish it like when I'm still here
3:02:19tonight I'd run it to you what time do
3:02:22you get off I don't know we have some
3:02:24things to do I mean I'm guessing it's
3:02:25going to be a while
3:02:27yeah a long time I'd [clears throat]
3:02:29rather just get it right away even if
3:02:31you just leave it in my mailbox
3:02:33[snorts]
3:02:34see your mom's house made to farm I want
3:02:36to go to the farm I'd rather go to the
3:02:38house instead
3:02:39okay my
3:02:42brother's gonna be there with my dog oh
3:02:43your mom's house my mom's house okay not
3:02:46the apartment
3:02:49your brother is at the farm
3:02:52is he
3:03:00house number your brother is
3:03:02I don't know if he's still at the farm
3:03:04so
3:03:04I know he was he works more okay
3:03:09[snorts]
3:03:09to get there
3:03:16she ever right sure you and I yeah sure
3:03:18okay okay
3:03:20can I can I get Mitch's number I don't
3:03:22have it memorized
3:03:24um I don't know it to be honest with you
3:03:27I'm tracking it down
3:03:30I can get it for you okay can I leave my
3:03:33number for Chandler I don't know if he
3:03:34remembers anyone's numbers by heart
3:03:38how's that work down there
3:03:39we can try I don't know like what he's
3:03:43so we have different
3:03:45um areas so I don't know where he is in
3:03:47the booking process I don't know if he's
3:03:49on
3:03:50suicide watch I don't know I don't know
3:03:52any of that we just have different
3:03:54parameters so if he's cool then we can
3:03:57give him your number
3:04:01yeah I can get a piece of paper and then
3:04:03you can write it down and
3:04:05sure
3:04:07what else is hard on you
3:04:11super hard
3:04:14[snorts]
3:04:16I
3:04:17don't think he did it
3:05:06okay
3:05:08all set yeah also and now you call your
3:05:11mom to get the car could have you call
3:05:13your mom again
3:05:19number hello interview
3:05:22yeah I'm okay
3:05:28I'm going to the house in the city
3:05:32you want like a phone where you can what
3:05:34we call 911 sure
3:05:46[snorts]
3:05:54[snorts]
3:05:55Solutions
3:05:59yeah cool
3:06:03you got everything
3:06:05um they gave me a
3:06:06phonics for a while and flip up
3:06:10well yeah
3:06:13oh they're just
3:06:15um
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