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0:00Today is October 21st. The Yankees did
0:03their end of season press conferences.
0:06So, we're gonna do our reactions to the
0:09press conferences. Let's talk Yanks.
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0:58brass had their postseason
1:02press conferences. Hal and Cash a joint
1:05press conference and then Boone by
1:07himself, all the reporters there asking
1:09tons of questions.
1:12What's to blame? Who's to blame? Who's
1:14coming back? Who's not going back?
1:16Evaluate this. Talk about that.
1:19And there was some nuggets and tone, I
1:22guess, Jake. some stuff to chew on. How
1:25you doing,
1:26>> James Davis? Everyone tuning in. Uh,
1:28happy off season, I suppose. Uh, getting
1:31ready for a World Series of two teams
1:33very different from ours, which that
1:35always leads to some conversation
1:37starters, and that got brought up in the
1:39pressers. Um, I don't know. I I was I
1:43was excited uh you know seeing seeing
1:47Hal up there, seeing Cash up there,
1:49wondering what the biggest nuggets we're
1:51going to get are cuz you know you're
1:53going to have to filter through it. I
1:54mean it's going to be 98% uh kind of
1:57just dancing through questions and then
1:59you hope to grab some things here and
2:00there. So hopefully we can do that for
2:02you guys a little bit. Um, I mean, I I
2:05think my biggest one was like cash
2:08actually extended. Um, which, uh, you
2:12know, from some of the quotes, whether
2:13to blaming the offense or, you know,
2:15talking about how good the pitching is
2:17and different things or success through
2:19recent years, uh, I think that becomes a
2:22big part of the interesting side of it.
2:24And yeah, uh, I don't know. I I know
2:27there's not going to be a lot of wins
2:28from this. I I think our tone is going
2:29to be generally displeased because
2:31Yankee fans are generally displeased. Um
2:35>> I don't know. I I feel like we've said
2:36this the past few years. I want Hal to
2:38talk more and he does say he doesn't
2:40want to talk more. So, uh so that's not
2:43as exciting, but I something about Hal
2:45kind of does get me going. It has a
2:47little bit
2:49he's got the speech pattern down if you
2:51know what I'm saying. He was uh one
2:53point he was totally zoned out and I was
2:55like, "Oh, oh, how's phone?" Like,
2:57"Hal's not here. Look at him." And then
2:58he he literally snapped himself awake.
3:01It was, "Oh, who what's Brian saying?"
3:03It was a good It was a good little
3:04moment. Um I mean, yeah, Hal put a
3:07little anger in his V voice. He gave a
3:09little uh
3:12stern tone when talking about the
3:14offense.
3:15>> Yeah,
3:16>> the offense. Some of the quotes from Hal
3:17Steinber, the offense was a big
3:19disappointment for me. if you don't
3:21score runs, you're not going to win.
3:25He said uh it was uh an unacceptable end
3:28to the season.
3:30>> And he said all this with a little bit
3:32of an annoyed tone, like why don't you
3:35guys just win so I don't have to check
3:36in on all this stuff all the time,
3:38>> right?
3:39>> Making my job difficult here. Like I got
3:42to go now. I got to look into this.
3:44>> Uh
3:46but yeah, mostly the offense he blames,
3:48which is easy because they were awful.
3:50uh most of the season and then in the
3:54DS.
3:56>> Yes, we we know that they do come in as
4:00a concentrated effort coming to these
4:03things [laughter] like Boon Boon Hal and
4:06Cash talk together and they talk with
4:09the PR team and they're like, "Hey, how
4:11are how did we get through today?" Which
4:13is understandable. We would we would do
4:15the same thing if it was a Jake John
4:17Bibbs Joe's press conference day. we
4:19would sit down, Joe's would go rogue and
4:21we'd say, "We can't give him the mic
4:22anymore. You go run the horses." Um,
4:25that yes, it makes sense that they do
4:27that. And clearly what was established
4:30was that the offense wasn't good enough.
4:33Um, and I I guess part of me was
4:35surprised in certain facets they didn't
4:38lean in more, like the Yankees finishing
4:4026 in batting average when you have the
4:43one and two batting average teams in the
4:44World Series. I I know that's not how it
4:46works every year. like if you actually
4:47go through every year in the highest
4:49batting averages, it's those normally
4:51are not the best two teams cuz you do
4:53need more. Um but I was surprised they I
4:57I guess in a way I'm not that they
4:58didn't harp on that more. Um but yeah,
5:01the offense was the target and yeah, I I
5:04might as well get this out now so it's
5:06not just swirling in everyone else's
5:07head. But you know, the the offense was
5:10assembled by the front office. Uh,
5:12obviously you're missing Judge and
5:14Stanton, which they noted that
5:15tastefully. Like they weren't if if they
5:18had opened with that too early, Yankee
5:20fans would have gone, "Oh my god." But
5:22hey, I I think if you told Yankee fans
5:25before the season, like, "Guys, guess
5:27what? You guys are going to have a 90
5:29plus win season, but Judge isn't going
5:30to be there in October." We'd be like,
5:32"Oh, so we're not winning this year." So
5:34there again, you could take some certain
5:37nicities out of it. the offense got the
5:40blame from pretty much everyone except
5:42the front office that put together the
5:44offense.
5:45>> Yeah. Yeah. He said the offense was a
5:48big disappointment for me. Uh two years
5:51in a row now. So we he was like so we
5:52definitely have to look into that. Don't
5:54know what that means but I hope it
5:57happens. Uh they asked about the
5:59coaching staff and obviously they're
6:01like we haven't had those meetings yet.
6:03Um, you know, one of the quotes how
6:04says, "The majority of the
6:06responsibility lies with the position
6:08players
6:10>> and then Cash talks about how we were
6:12good enough to win." Okay. So, who's so
6:15where's So, you know, the offensive
6:19unit, the position players performance.
6:21How's saying not good? Cash is saying
6:23they're good enough to win. So, are you
6:25just pitting Are you just blaming the
6:26players straight up or you just blaming
6:29your coaches straight up? I think um the
6:32team that assembled the players is
6:35saying, "No, I assembled a team good
6:37enough to win."
6:38>> Yes,
6:38>> I disagree with that.
6:41>> But personally, I disagree with that. I
6:44I think they
6:46assembled a team, and I've said this
6:48many of times, and they talked about,
6:49they got asked about this, that can win
6:52over 162,
6:54but don't battle. Like like you just
6:57look at like these at bats and I know
6:58that the teams that are hitting more
7:00home runs are still winning in the
7:01postseason. So you can just fall on
7:02those flat
7:05stats, right?
7:06>> Well, look at the at bats before the
7:07home runs. Like for Jake Bowers, it's
7:09like an 11 pitch. He's fouling off every
7:11pitch. The Yankees don't foul off two
7:13strike. They they didn't assemble a team
7:16at the back end who had the skill.
7:18Austin Wells for majority of the season.
7:20and he did well in the postseason, but
7:22for majority of the season, his fouling
7:24off and fighting two strike pitches, not
7:27in his skill set. Gisham, not in his
7:29skill set. McMahon not in his skill set.
7:31Jazz, if he wants it to be at times,
7:34it's clearly a focus thing with Jazz.
7:36Everyone seems to agree across the board
7:37on that. But yeah, I I disagree that
7:40they had the team. When you watch the
7:42teams in the championship series, I was
7:43like, these at bats are way different
7:46than Yankee at bats. Yes. And that's uh
7:50this is this is a little Jakeism that
7:53I've stumbled into. Um but power is led
7:56by contact. Um and especially in these
7:59postseason at bats when you're seeing
8:01the most difficult pitchers, it if you
8:03have crazy power but you have you don't
8:04have the contact, it doesn't matter. um
8:07that the Rays who finished 22nd in
8:10homers and how many of those are junior
8:11camo that they don't grade out well
8:14there but they were the second average
8:16team and they have the least strikeouts
8:18uh in baseball this year. Milwaukee
8:20finished 28th in home runs and they were
8:23first in batting average this year. So
8:25there's something to approach again.
8:27It's it feels like it feels Looney
8:29Tunes. It feels like all these awards
8:31and stuff that went away from baseball
8:33or at least our Yankee baseball,
8:35everything's back.
8:36>> Yeah.
8:36>> Uh the way that Cash uh or excuse me,
8:40Kevin Cash, the longest tenure manager
8:42and the way that Pat Murphy treat their
8:43players again goes back to all the
8:45conversations about being fair and like
8:48doing your role. Um and you know, I if
8:50you haven't seen it, go look up Pat
8:52Murphy talking about David Hamilton and
8:54laying down a bunt in his first bat
8:56because he'll get better pitches later.
8:58like the Yankees don't believe in
8:59anything like that. Are you kidding me?
9:01That doesn't show up and and the numbers
9:05that they look at that they've built
9:06their organization around that. No, that
9:09was uh cuz you and I were talking before
9:11this like you know of Hal and Cash or or
9:14Boone, which interview did you like
9:15more? I Boone didn't do much for me and
9:18maybe that's just the being numb of
9:20doing it with Boone. Although you do get
9:22some potential inside Yankee stuff, I
9:27was more sad and broken by the Hal and
9:31Cash presser because when I do our end
9:33of year show, which I normally say I'm
9:36excited to do in a way because it's an
9:38appreciation of everything I know wasn't
9:39this year. It would be so easy for me to
9:42do a Fanatics Yankees are going to win
9:44the World Series bet. Go check it out if
9:47Fanatics would love that. Um, I I would
9:49love that if it's right, but I I didn't
9:52put a dollar on this team because they
9:53didn't have a championship roster. And
9:55that's the scary sad part.
9:57>> I think even with Judge they didn't have
9:58a postseason championship roster. I
10:00think that's where
10:02>> um not everyone would agree with us
10:04there. Some people think with Judge they
10:06were like a lock to win the ALCS and
10:08maybe they could have got to the ALCS
10:10but if you just look at the up and down
10:12like they still had a bottom of the
10:13lineup that just did not fight and
10:15that's why for the last two three years
10:18starting pitchers that have their way
10:19with the Yankees have their way with the
10:20Yankees. They have no skill set to break
10:22that up and and they continue not and
10:25and Hal kind of
10:28agrees in the sense that he made it
10:31clear that this is not I'm disappointed
10:35with the offense for coming up short in
10:37the postseason. He's disappointed in the
10:39offense for two years now being bad. And
10:43he said it's not like it's a two-year
10:45organizational pattern. and he said all
10:48season throughout the regular season I
10:49was disappointed with the offense which
10:51does contradict what Cashman said that
10:53we were good enough to win and we had
10:55the roster and Boone said where Boon and
10:57Cash were like well look at our offense
10:59against Boston it worked it was there in
11:02those two games and then it didn't
11:03happen in DS so that's just baseball and
11:05that happens where's quotes were not
11:08that he was saying the whole year our
11:11offense talked and I was disappointed
11:14and
11:15that needs to
11:16The run it back Yanks.
11:18>> Yes. And how' they run that back? It's
11:21not like the players put the team
11:23together. That
11:26ignoring the front office in this was
11:28disgusting. Um I I hated I hated all of
11:31that. And the only thing I hated more
11:32than that was
11:35all three uh bringing up Boston and how
11:38they did good there. Boston was a
11:40terrible team. Boston was a terrible
11:42baseball team this year. In one of the
11:44worst American leagues ever, Boston had
11:47six good weeks. Other than that, they
11:49were horrible. So, them saying like,
11:52"Oh, well, you know, the offense looked
11:54good against Boston and, you know, I I'd
11:57like that we got to the wild card. I
11:58like that we won the wild card." That's
11:59nothing. That is nothing. That's still
12:03failure. And even what you did against
12:05the Rays, I mean, you didn't win a game
12:08in October. The year was a failure.
12:11And and that's where a lot of people
12:13were coming back to the championship
12:14question. It just became this like
12:16circular game of chicken of like, well,
12:18the mission is to win the World Series.
12:20And it's like, well, you you haven't you
12:22haven't in the longest drought in
12:23Yankees history. And that was my only I
12:26was wondering if one of the beat
12:27reporters, and I I don't want to call
12:28them out. I I don't know their job. I
12:30don't do their job. I thought someone
12:32might mention the longest drought, World
12:34Series drought in Yankees history, which
12:36is dangerous. Um it was um Clappish at
12:39the end and a very targeted question
12:42that was like
12:45you haven't won. Uh it was towards the
12:48end he said uh it was like aren't you
12:51embarrassed or something like that.
12:52>> Yeah.
12:53>> It was pretty like you guys haven't won
12:54in forever. Aren't you embarrassed? How
12:56do what do you do about that? And I
12:58think how's response was I yes I would
13:01have hoped to won more than once by now.
13:04>> Yes. But we had
13:04>> Yeah. I I don't think they said long as
13:06Stout there. Maybe they did. Um but
13:08>> No, we might not have said that, but it
13:09was it was
13:10>> it was targeted. No, there was a
13:11murderer's row that came up about 30
13:14minutes in.
13:15>> Uh they got to Joel, they got to Boland.
13:18Um that then it was like it was almost
13:20like let's get some questions rolling
13:21and then we'll we'll let the middle of
13:23the lineup eat a little bit.
13:25>> Uh that yeah, Clappish had one too. Um
13:28and yeah, that was I I mean Hal I think
13:31that's where he got to hide behind the
13:32fact that he doesn't like doing any of
13:34this. He was like, "No, I don't want to
13:35come up here and tell you that we lost."
13:37But also saying, "Yeah, I've expected
13:39we've won multiple since then." Hello.
13:42Like what? Like that's where the
13:45craziness really kicks in. Um and on the
13:48offense, Sim Burner said they he thought
13:51they left spring training with the World
13:52Series offense.
13:55And
13:56that was with Stanton and Judge. Like we
13:58couldn't have predicted that we were
14:00going to lose 80%. Stanton and Judge
14:02were not going to play 80% of the game.
14:04like, well, Stan, I mean, you you have
14:06to pencil him in for missing two months
14:09now. And we've been saying that for
14:10years, and it's been true, so I don't
14:12know how much that changes the regular
14:13season. Um, and Judge is obviously a big
14:16one, but there's something to be looked
14:17into there about injuries and and not
14:20not letting Judge play for a month hurt,
14:23and then he can't come back and not
14:25letting him skip minor league games and
14:28and gradually get into his cleats on the
14:30turf. Would you have rather judge uh not
14:33available at all in the uh playoffs or
14:38you know only one week of MLB action?
14:40because what you did was you just let
14:42him dictate his path and everyone talks
14:46about slowly going and Boon took him out
14:47of the game in the sixth inning and
14:48Judge was saying I should play the whole
14:50thing and everyone says well when you
14:52wear cleats for nine innings on turf
14:55you're stepping different your muscles
14:57are being used different and if you rush
14:59into that just like spring training soft
15:01tissue injuries occur and that was all
15:02said before he rushed into it and so so
15:06that's you have to look deeper into the
15:08organization there of who's calling the
15:09shots on injury return and injuries
15:12because Judge played 30 games hurt, had
15:15bad numbers. We said on the podcast,
15:16"This guy's hurt. He's playing through
15:18something. Hopefully, it's not serious."
15:20Turns out it was serious. Judge gets
15:22asked about, he says, "Well, Cole went
15:24down, Freed went down, Stanton went
15:26down, so I got to play for the team."
15:27It's like, "No, dude. You have to be
15:29healthy for the the end of the year.
15:32>> We don't need 30 bad games out of you."
15:35you know, he doesn't know the s the
15:37severity of the injury at that point.
15:39But I think that that's another thing
15:41Hal has to look into because it wasn't
15:44handled and none of Judge's injuries are
15:45ever handled normal.
15:48Normal at all. Maybe properly sometimes,
15:51maybe not properly, but never normal.
15:54No. And I I think that starts to tie
15:57into, you know, some some of the
15:59reporters did bring up uh some of the
16:01offseason fodder like we did on our our
16:03last episode about guys like CC talking
16:06and Rizzo talking and all that. Um that
16:09yeah like you know basically not uh the
16:13practicing at the trop and using the
16:15trajec machine that got brought up.
16:16There's a lot of decision-making culture
16:18stuff that um the Yankees are so far off
16:22on uh and they don't believe they are
16:24cuz it's the same people that have been
16:26there so they wouldn't believe they are.
16:29Um but every now and then someone like
16:30Rizzo will come through and have a
16:32couple quotes on it because he's been
16:34other places. But yeah, uh I mean
16:39we do this in sports and we should do
16:41this in sports, but you look around for
16:42other teams for their culture or what's
16:45working or how to keep up with the
16:46Joneses. And I mean obviously Pat
16:49Murphy's operating on a different level,
16:51but if you think there's not going to be
16:52three more Pat Murphy's in the next two
16:54years because other teams are going to
16:56see if that works for them and we'll
16:58find out. Uh the Brewers are also a
16:59class organization. like um everything
17:02that's getting you know ignored with
17:04them is like how good of a pitching
17:06factory they are that brings them uh you
17:09know that puts them in this opportunity.
17:11Same with the Yankees. Um
17:14they Yeah. Uh that's the part that we
17:17don't know the line. We don't know the
17:19line between Hal. We don't know the line
17:20between Boone. We don't know the line
17:22between Cash. We don't know the line
17:23between Judge. between the different
17:25forms of leadership, which we talked
17:27about last episode, and how that culture
17:29permeates through the clubhouse, and if
17:32it's right, and I I think the leaning is
17:35that it's not, especially when you have
17:37like Cece's the one that like that's
17:39that's the one if this was a schoolyard
17:42fight, you and I are like hiding behind
17:43Cece's legs being like, "Listen to what
17:45he said. Listen to what he said." Cuz
17:47he's Cece Sebathia,
17:50so listen to him.
17:51>> Yeah. I talked about that, asked Boon
17:52about his comments and the not working
17:55out the trap and he danced around that
17:57and was like, "Well, we did after we did
17:59before game one and then he kind of
18:01slipped." You said like game two we used
18:04as an off day. We're not an off day, but
18:05we worked it there. It's like you had no
18:06answer. um but who is making that
18:09decision and then uh talked about the
18:13standard and CC saying there's no one in
18:15the clubhouse to set the standard and
18:17Boon kind of was like I try every year
18:19like Andy Pettit with us a lot and
18:20that's what I said yeah the pitching has
18:22has Gry has Pettit has people showing up
18:25um it's the the position players in the
18:28offense that I Reggie Jackson was there
18:30for a while they lost him I I don't know
18:33I don't know why they lost him or what
18:34the situation was but He was like, "I
18:37think we're okay." But what else is he
18:38going to say there? The only thing that
18:43um they're unwavering
18:47in their style. They and got asked about
18:50this a lot. They don't believe in uh
18:53publicly criticizing a player as a means
18:56to motivate him. Now, Pat Murphy, who's
18:59coming up a lot, um and then some other
19:02managers around this time are starting
19:04to do that.
19:06starting to like not in a terrible way,
19:08not like throw him under the bus, but
19:10like yeah, no, he's got to work on that.
19:11Like, yeah, no, I don't want him to do
19:12that. Yeah. Hey, I got to get benched.
19:14But no, no, I think it's for better to
19:16be honest as um a person like as for
19:18Boon the guy. I don't know for manager
19:21of the Yankees, but he's like that's not
19:22me. I know myself.
19:24>> Yeah. Uh Cameron Mabin wrote a whole
19:26tweet recently saying like Boon is very
19:29demanding behind the scenes and he is on
19:32the guys and he communicates when he's
19:34upset and when he's not very clearly
19:36behind the scenes, but Boon has said
19:38over and over again, I I am not that
19:40guy. I don't believe in it and I'm not
19:42going to do it. And part of me says,
19:44good for you, Boon. Don't change who you
19:46are. But then that's that's where Hal
19:50needs to and I'm not saying there's an
19:52answer right or wrong. And how said, can
19:54we continue this voice? Do we need to
19:57shake it up? Is there different ways to
19:59approach things? But Boon is saying,
20:01"No, that's not what I'm going to do."
20:02And it's very clear that Hal has
20:05[clears throat] some sort of childhood
20:06trauma from his dad firing managers
20:11every year. And maybe he saw the rubbles
20:14in the clubhouse and the terrible
20:17organizational vibes inside the walls
20:20when that happened as a boy. I don't
20:22know. But he's like, "We aren't gonna do
20:25that. We aren't going to do extensions
20:28and we aren't gonna do firings." That's
20:30basically the how mantra. We are going
20:33to give contracts and let them run out
20:36and we will honor them. And I I mean,
20:38you can I would need to have a
20:41psychiatrist sit down with Hal because
20:42that to me clearly is him being like, "I
20:46hated that aspect of my dad. I don't
20:49want to be that.
20:52because they he is dead set.
20:55>> Yes. Uh and that's with you know I I my
20:58first excitement for this Yankees off
21:00season was uh Hicks and DJ's money comes
21:04off the books two of two of the like
21:06kind of extensions they got snuck into
21:08DJ hits free agency again but it was
21:10almost like and we were on it like you
21:12have to resign them. They signed him to
21:13a contract that was longer because they
21:15knew it was going to end bad and it did.
21:17Um, with that, my biggest frustration
21:19from the press conference, they don't
21:22believe in New York City. They're scared
21:24of it. They're scared of the city.
21:26They're scared of the media. And I know
21:28we've talked about this.
21:29>> Oh, terrifi. They They're putting so
21:31much blame on it, dude. We can't tell
21:33which players are going to play well
21:35here.
21:36>> The amount
21:37>> build a culture where they can.
21:39>> Maybe a tough coach. Build a culture
21:40where they can.
21:41>> The amount
21:43>> and and this ties into literally all of
21:45it. the amount that Boon goes through to
21:47protect the players and that's why he's
21:49there and that's who he is as someone
21:50who plays the game and that's where like
21:52and maybe some of you are like Matt
21:53we're not more mad at Boon but also like
21:56I I think he's they've taken him to be
22:00Aaron Boone and that's what he does and
22:02like there's a part of us that respects
22:04that because that's just who he is. Like
22:05it's if they told him to change he
22:07wouldn't do it.
22:08>> If they were like Boon be Pat Murphy go
22:10that's what we want. He'd be like no
22:12like that's not who I am. I'm from
22:14Southern California. I played the game
22:15for a long time. I'm not doing that.
22:18They are so scared of the media.
22:20>> Yeah. And the city and the fans
22:22>> and like I it's so horribly frustrating.
22:24The amount of times today they brought
22:26up oh well you know it's New York and
22:28the amount of times they brought up you
22:29know you guys the media and like look at
22:31this. Look at this [ __ ] Look at you and
22:33me. Like look look what this has turned
22:35into. Um and a part of that was fueled
22:38off of how big and how popular the
22:40Yankees are. But you don't see that
22:42complaint. I normally point to the
22:44players when I'm like, "Look at how many
22:45followers Andrew has. Look how many
22:47followers Clint has." Well, look at you
22:49just sold a nothing percentage of your
22:51business for $2.4 billion dollars
22:54because they just want that action pop.
22:56And that was one of Hal's best like that
22:58was if I was doing Hal's best moments
23:00and they're like, "So, how much power do
23:02they have?" He said, "Zero, zero,
23:03>> zero, nothing. They just gave me 2.4
23:08billion for nothing. That's what we have
23:11here." And you know why you have that?
23:13Because of the media, because of the
23:15fans. There's a bunch of other baseball
23:18teams that don't have this. But you need
23:20to embrace that. And that's my biggest
23:22thing until they start embracing it
23:24again. Cuz I get that there has to be a
23:26us against the world culture to a
23:28degree. Um but it's it's the covering up
23:31stuff and the amount of times and I
23:33we've talked to people within the
23:34Yankees who are like, you know, for that
23:36Yankee stuff of like, oh, this guy came
23:38into town. He wasn't very good. He
23:40couldn't handle the city. I think there
23:42is some of that. I think there's also if
23:44you just did random teams and you did a
23:46veteran who came into town and they were
23:48bad, other teams also have that. So, it
23:51becomes a copout.
23:52>> I've heard that from other parts of the
23:55Yankees organization a lot. Like,
23:57>> dude, everyone wants to blame the fans,
23:59but guys go other places and get worse.
24:01>> Tough sport.
24:02>> It's a tough sport. But yeah, dude, they
24:05um it's it's evident that they are
24:08blaming the toughness of playing in New
24:10York a lot.
24:12>> Yes.
24:12>> And they need Well, okay. Well, that's
24:14not changing. That's what I said to Josh
24:16Donaldson on when I was I was like,
24:18that's not changing. And uh so figure
24:22out how to build players that can handle
24:24it. If they can't if you identify that
24:26you have a Joey Gallow or Sunny Gray
24:28that are not enjoying this, you need to
24:31figure like go with your mental the
24:34mental health coach guy who's authors of
24:35Cowboys. Like maybe he's maybe he's got
24:38to develop a new program for you know
24:40embracing this and building guys because
24:43if you can't handle the fans over the
24:46course of a regular season, you're not
24:48going to be able to hear handle the
24:49postseason
24:50>> 100%. And like I still I still even
24:52leave Sunny the slightest asterisk
24:54because Larry Rothschild was like behind
24:55the time and wouldn't let Sunny pitch
24:57like I I don't think and like think
24:58about how
24:59>> but he did say it
25:00>> a little bit but also like guys like
25:01CeCe came out defended Sunny and Sunny's
25:03pitched in like other decentsized
25:05markets and did good. Like I again like
25:07I'll even I'll even defend Sunny Gray
25:09all these years later because I think
25:11there was a little bit of like us like
25:12I'll I'll wear that a little bit. Like I
25:14think there was a little bit of New
25:15York. I think there was also what was
25:16going on in the Yankees or that they
25:18tried to make him a slider instead of a
25:19curveball guy. Anyways, um no, that that
25:22was my that was my biggest and most
25:24frustrating thing besides like putting
25:26the Red Sox stuff as a win again that
25:29this year's games didn't mean
25:30>> I did like beating the Red Sox by a lot.
25:34>> Their manager was trash and their team's
25:37bad. He the the manager I actually think
25:39the man I think just think the team was
25:41better than the manager how the manager
25:44>> they should have let Gray pitch those
25:46games.
25:46>> Yes. Because the Yankees can't get to
25:48starting pitches.
25:49>> Ranger Suarez didn't pitch in that
25:50series. Like the Red Sox [ __ ] the bet
25:52against.
25:52>> If the starting pitcher is doing good to
25:54get the Yankees, have them throw 200
25:55pitches. They won't change their
25:56approach. They won't try to grind it
25:58down. But if they get a lead, then
26:00they'll start doing the [ __ ] that they
26:01should be doing from the start of the
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26:58Um, what else did they talk about?
27:04Boon talked about um
27:10I mean Boon was kind of good. He's like
27:11I
27:13He's like if he was like if I don't win
27:15a championship here like
27:18it's a failure. He's like and by my
27:20standards like by me judging me,
27:22>> right?
27:22>> Like and he's like he's like I
27:24understand. Is this the audio of it?
27:26where if you play a team that you were
27:28better than during the regular season or
27:30the AL Central, you win, but if you play
27:32a team that was as good as you were
27:34better, uh, you don't. Why should we
27:37believe under you that your team isn't
27:39just kind of like a bully and when you
27:41get hit in the postseason by someone
27:43better, you you won't stay down like you
27:45have uh your last eight times in the
27:47playoffs.
27:48>> Yeah. I mean,
27:49>> another
27:50>> we got to prove that otherwise.
27:51Hopefully, we are that bully and we're
27:53the best team throughout the season next
27:55year and bully our way through the
27:56postseason. But until we don't, I don't
28:00have that answer for you. We have to we
28:02have to answer that. You know, until the
28:03Brewers or the Rays win the World
28:05Series, they've never won a World
28:06Series. I believe it can happen with me
28:09at the helm. Um, but, you know, any
28:13answer I give in defense of that isn't
28:16going to be a great one or satisfy
28:17people. So, you know,
28:20I think I'm good at my job. Um, I think
28:24we have a lot of the right people in the
28:25building. Um, and but at the end of the
28:29day, we haven't won a championship with
28:32me at the helm. And, you know,
28:34ultimately that's what has to happen to,
28:37you know, to satisfy
28:40certainly myself. Like, that's why I'm
28:42doing this. Um, but to answer those
28:44questions ultimately, um, haven't been
28:46able to do it yet.
28:51Yeah, the second half of that is like,
28:53okay,
28:56he's in it to win. It's just and he's
28:59got a style.
29:01So, I don't you're not going to expect
29:02many changes there. So, what changes can
29:04we expect?
29:06>> They just got to get better players.
29:08>> The hitting like, you know, the hitting
29:10side of things.
29:10>> I I guess we've been mad about the
29:12running back Yanks. like they they can't
29:14run it back offensively. And even uh you
29:17know going back to last year another
29:20another thing okay Jake jog your memory
29:23the LSD kicks back in last year their
29:25whole thing was after the trade deadline
29:28remember they were like oh we improve
29:30well you know after the deadline we were
29:32a different team that that was part of
29:33their run it back mantra I guess from
29:36this it's addressing the hitting um
29:38Boone had a couple quotes like you know
29:40they asked about the Brewers or the Rays
29:42being different and he's like well
29:43they're much more athletic teams
29:45Um and Hal mentioned a little bit of
29:47that too that um
29:50>> I guess yes offensively
29:54they really have to make some changes
29:56and adjustments otherwise but they that
29:59comes from the very that comes from the
30:01very top of the analytics department
30:03right
30:03>> and there's and I we know that we I am
30:08certain of that that they
30:11identify which hitters to get in my opin
30:14opinion is wrong. They will throw stats
30:18at us that are don't that bury
30:23everything that happens before the
30:25result comes which I think is ignorant
30:28and I know this because I had a back and
30:30forth
30:31>> with them about this
30:33>> where I was like well what were his
30:36swings on this pitch and this pitch and
30:38how long was the count and are they just
30:40swinging for homers when they're tied
30:43games or when they're ahead or now they
30:45adding to the lead by playing small ball
30:47or um is it if there's no one on are
30:49they get doing bigger swings and then if
30:51they're getting you know the first
30:52batter is trying to get like it's not
30:54just whoever hits more home runs wins.
30:57That's what they think
30:59>> and that's what they still believe and
31:01it's a correct stat but whoever hits
31:04more home runs while in the process
31:08grinding down the pitchers and having
31:10productive outs and leading to harder
31:13outings. You saw Jerasmuson just breeze
31:15through the Yanks because they were
31:16swinging for that big hit. When you saw
31:19the Guardians, they were fouling off
31:21balls. Quan had a great at bat in the
31:23first inning and they don't up to this
31:26point I can say for certain they just
31:30believe in that final number.
31:32The you know the Brewers if if you guys
31:34were watching that series like the the
31:36way they got to Tyler Glass now like
31:38they had to start working through them
31:40and grind them down to get there
31:41eventually that Yeah. I I guess my my
31:44other win during my LSD flashback a
31:47moment ago was something that they they
31:49did say a few times, especially during
31:51the boon part was being the bully and
31:53being the better regular season team.
31:55And I think Hal and Cash acknowledge it
31:56too that like how the one seeds in this
31:59playoff format have an advantage and
32:01it's like well then you need to go out
32:03and be more aggressive in the regular
32:05season.
32:06>> Yeah.
32:06>> Um and we see they do a lot of
32:10maintenance or taking care of guys and
32:11that's where again If you had told us
32:14before the season, hey, Judge is going
32:15to miss miss uh 60 games and they're not
32:19going to have him in the postseason, a
32:21lot of Yankee fans will probably be
32:22like, okay, not the year, huh? Um, so
32:24there is that caveat, but also it's not
32:28the only thing and there's a lot more
32:30wrong with this team. And you can point
32:31to the Braves and how they won without
32:32Akunia. And you can point to other
32:34teams, how they have their different
32:35injuries that um and it it basically
32:38goes back to the whole roster
32:40construction thing that you've harped on
32:42for years that your bottom of your
32:43lineup shouldn't be the top of your
32:45lineup, just a bad version of it. Like
32:47it should be different at bad should be
32:49flipping. Oh, and here come the speed
32:51guys. Here come the contact guys. Here
32:53comes this. Like and I they still don't
32:55believe in that. At least that's what
32:57they showed from the bottom of their
32:58lineup this year. So, I guess that's one
33:00of the offseason things to look into.
33:02And there was the Boone side of this did
33:04have more uh Yankees roster type
33:08conversations. Um at least with Luis
33:11Garcia Jr.
33:13>> Yeah. And Rice and Carlo dhing. Um
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33:55>> Forget what I was going to say.
33:56>> Okay. Do you want me to say different
33:58things and see if it
33:59>> What was the last things we were said?
34:01[clears throat]
34:01>> So, I distracted you with the Yankees
34:03players and Luis Garcia Jr.
34:05>> Yeah, before that.
34:06>> Before that, I said,
34:08>> um, Yankees, we don't win anymore. Oh,
34:12the lineup better in the regular season.
34:14>> Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
34:16>> That's how you do it, people.
34:18>> Because I'm developing a theory. Okay.
34:20Uh, in the last decade, the the view
34:25from front offices that the Mariners put
34:28on display is the postseason is a
34:30crapshoot. Right.
34:32>> Right.
34:33>> And the data
34:35>> maybe 10 years before that
34:38when every team was trying to be the
34:40best they could be and you had all these
34:43equal teams reaching the postseason
34:46>> that the more even field
34:49Maybe it was more of a crapshoot, but in
34:52the last nine seasons,
34:55representing the American League in the
34:57World Series has been the team with the
35:00best record. And I think building a team
35:05just to get by and make the postseason.
35:08and not building the best team
35:12has obliterated the crapshoot because
35:14now seven out of nine of the best teams
35:18have won their league because they're
35:21one of the one or two trying to be the
35:24best team, right? So this very like
35:27philosophy of it's a crapshoot, make it
35:29a crapshoot. You just got to get in the
35:31dance has now the the level of playing
35:35field has skewed to like the Astros
35:38early in the decade where they weren't
35:40just trying to make the dance. They were
35:42trading for Verlander and they were
35:44trading for Grankkey and they were
35:45making the best team making the dagger
35:48moves because we don't want to be the
35:49best team in the regular season. We miss
35:50team playoffs. Whereas all the other
35:53teams like the 2022 Yankees did not make
35:57the best moves at the deadline to make
35:59sure they were over the [ __ ] top the
36:01best team. They just want to get in the
36:03dance and play the crapshoot game. Well,
36:04they didn't. They win.
36:06>> And same with the last year's this
36:09year's, you know what I mean? So, I
36:11think that the nerds have uh again I say
36:14nerds because they are nerds, right? I
36:16don't disparage against them. I'm a
36:17nerd, too. But the
36:20the front office ilk that are saying
36:23that have shifted the whole paradigm of
36:26like what works in the postseason. And
36:28guess what? Trying to be the best team
36:29you can be is now uh foolproof.
36:33>> Yeah. I I have to look more into that
36:36theory, but that's my running theory
36:37now.
36:37>> It's a little old school. Try to be the
36:39best team. Um, no. I I think it's funny
36:43and again I think like all these old
36:44sports things are coming back so I'm
36:46almost excited, but I I think there's
36:48truly only been
36:50like I do think if you go back in those
36:52old history like when when the geeks
36:54were starting to take over and again I I
36:56kind of I I use geeks. It's impressive
36:59how smart some people can be, but
37:00sometimes you also go too far past logic
37:02of like I don't know assembling the best
37:04team having all righties on the Yankees
37:06anyways.
37:07>> You can overthink it.
37:08>> You can overthink it. Um, think, yeah, I
37:11I think all of that's coming back. I I
37:13think that trying to win every day and
37:15how important that was in baseball and
37:17hopefully, you know, I I think that's
37:19why teams are baseball fans should be
37:21rooed for the Brewers uh this this
37:24postseason. Uh I I think stuff like that
37:27is just going to cycle back. Um, and I
37:30just my worry is with the big news at
37:33the press conference today being that
37:34Cashman is extended that the that what
37:39real change is going to happen? Like I I
37:42we we've noticed we notice that there
37:44are changes each and every year and that
37:46we're like I like I kind of like that
37:48one or oh I kind of like that one. The
37:49Yankees are balanced again. We did get
37:51more athletic after having those
37:52unathletic Yanks that they do
37:54acknowledge stuff. It just feels like
37:57it's a couple years late cuz other teams
37:59have already tried to be forward
38:01thinking and get ahead of it while the
38:02Yankees are like, "No, we believe in
38:04this. Let's hunker down cuz this does
38:06work. We know this works, right?" And
38:08then they get to the end of the year and
38:09they go, "Ah, it didn't work again."
38:11Yeah.
38:11>> So, what do we need to change?
38:13>> I think I and I've talked about this on
38:16the end of the year postgame. Cashman
38:19revamped the pitching department. You
38:20talked about Larry Rothschild and at
38:22that point the Yankees being very
38:23behind. Cashman, who leads all of that,
38:27he hired Matt Blake. He hired uh uh the
38:31program underneath him. He told them,
38:33"Go put it in place." Like, he oversaw
38:35that and and made that happen. They
38:38tried to do that on the hitting side.
38:40Talked about this. They hired Dylan
38:41Lawson. They went to the drive line. It
38:43sucked and the players didn't like it
38:46and they went away from that. And
38:50uh the guys coming up are developing
38:51different in the minor leagues. They
38:53have more contact oriented bats. They
38:54have more guys doing this. So like
38:56they've slowly changed that
38:57>> Lombard Jones.
38:59>> They have more athletes in the miners.
39:00They It's um
39:03it's the lineup construction
39:07and the skills at the bottom that I need
39:11them to figure out. You do not. And and
39:16Cashman kind of said, I forget what his
39:18quote was, but he was like, it was
39:19somewhat I think along the lines of like
39:21slug wins.
39:22>> Oh, yeah. No, they're still in on that.
39:24And and if you think slug wins um
39:31without looking at what happens when a
39:33slugger doesn't slug the ball
39:36like sure if Trent Gisham
39:39hits a ball
39:41with great force that result is always
39:44going to be good but what happens when
39:46he misses?
39:47Is he missing the homer and getting a
39:50single? Is he missing the homer and
39:51getting a foul ball? is he taking these
39:54pitches, spoiling those pitches and
39:55that's what they don't believe in under
39:57the hood. They're just like results
40:01only and there is winning in the process
40:04and that and I think even I like OPS but
40:07even that is just a liar sometimes
40:09because it just it hypes up slug and you
40:13have guys like Chandler Simpson who's a
40:15unicorn of one of his kind. But you have
40:17guys um that maybe their slugging is
40:19never going to be high, but they can
40:21still help a lineup of nine tremendously
40:26>> uh by getting on base, by seeing lots of
40:28pitches, by putting the ball in play, by
40:30being fast. Uh and in like they we
40:34thought we were going to get like that
40:35in Vulpi doesn't happen. Like I need
40:37Lombard to not go the way they went.
40:41Vulpi and like I if he comes back
40:43putting on tons of muscle at the end of
40:44this year and like talking about how
40:46much he's if like Vulpi's going to drive
40:48line
40:49>> I'll be pretty upset.
40:51>> Not Vulpi um Lombard like
40:53>> either way
40:54>> we just don't need him to be that
40:55hitter. I'm not saying that no one
40:57should.
40:58>> I'm saying like we don't need that guy
41:01to be that hitter. We need guys at the
41:03bottom that have different approaches.
41:04And that's something that in Cashman's
41:08uh time
41:11of late we have not seen. That's what
41:13needs to click. And I don't know if it's
41:15hiring new personnel, overseeing it on
41:18the front office and the analytics of
41:20like who changing the the scouting
41:23process, but yeah, like a bat like Caleb
41:25Durban, who I was [ __ ] giddy about
41:28before they traded him for Deon
41:29Williams, got a bad trade. uh he might
41:32not have the most overall impressive
41:34numbers,
41:37but his underneath the hood stats could
41:41maybe help at the bottom of the lineup
41:43much more than McMahon. Much dude, much
41:45more than McMahon. So that's that's the
41:47thinking I want them to try and figure
41:49out.
41:50Yes. And I I think all of this just
41:53circles around assembling a team and and
41:56the the puzzle pieces have to fit
41:58together. And yes, it's really hard to
42:00assemble a perfect team. Although,
42:02again, reminder, go through the Yankee
42:04teams that won. They're pretty damn
42:06close. Go look at who's hitting eighth
42:07and ninth on those teams. Go look at who
42:10was hitting eighth and ninth on the
42:11Dodgers the past couple years. Like,
42:14again, what I see in our history is that
42:16if we're going to assemble a good team,
42:17it it really has to be rock solid top to
42:20top to bottom. And hey, m maybe that is
42:23really hard. It's harder to do nowadays
42:25because the pitching is so elite. Well,
42:26you have to get close to that. And then
42:28if you have a McMahon or a Wells at the
42:31bottom of your lineup, well, you need to
42:34surround them with different pieces.
42:35Like if you're going to survive that,
42:38well, especially in a regular season and
42:40more so in a postseason, you're going to
42:41need maybe a righty slap hitter around
42:43them that that makes the pitcher feel
42:45different so that when they do run into
42:47their one ball, it feels impactful. That
42:50like it's it's about building a team and
42:52the puzzle pieces has to go have to go
42:54together. Um, I think uh one one of my
42:58other notes that I just want out there
43:00before because again like a lot of this
43:03press conference started as a nightmare
43:04to all Yankee fans like just saying this
43:06was a championship team. It was not.
43:09It's still not confirmed. Uh, and you
43:12guys don't really know. I don't know if
43:14you could speak on what a championship
43:15team is because you had one team go to
43:17the World Series in the past 16 years
43:19and they got embarrassed. So like you
43:21can't say you've assembled a
43:23championship team and then even at Hal
43:25because I know he he got caught up in
43:27the you know is every year a success and
43:30then we know what's a success and the
43:32mission is this and blah blah blah and
43:33it's all just kind of fodder after a
43:35certain point but you know he Hal said
43:37you know this year we didn't succeed the
43:39mission and I know something that we've
43:41hung our hat on for going back to 2021
43:43like probably the most shocking press
43:45conference was them calling that year a
43:46success when they got to the one game
43:48>> said something like it is a success but
43:51and getting to the divisional series is
43:52always good but then the way we lost
43:54right
43:54>> ruined everything. I was like oh okay
43:56>> yeah it was a little
43:57>> that a season like this season is a
43:59success. Uh I am often
44:02so I have I have never suggested that a
44:05season like this season is a success. Uh
44:08I am often asked was the entire season a
44:11failure. Winning 93 games is not a
44:14failure. I mean making playing in the
44:16division series is not a failure. it
44:19became a failure because we did not do
44:21well. So would I have I ever called a
44:24season success? No, I don't believe I've
44:26ever called a season that we didn't win
44:28a world championship in.
44:29>> I don't think he has
44:29>> successful. But at the same time, I'm
44:31not going to say that everything that
44:32happened in that season, hence the
44:34entire season was a complete failure.
44:36>> I mean, that's that's just the way I I
44:39perceive things.
44:40>> Sure, there's difference between there's
44:41a middle ground between success and
44:43failure. I I understand that. And yeah,
44:44I don't think Howal did it was I think
44:47and I don't even know if they did it
44:48publicly because that got spread through
44:50the media after 2021 that then they
44:55stopped talking to the media after that
44:56and blocking them and then then the the
44:59be reporters were kind of like yeah no
45:01they're mad because they say this was a
45:04success and blah blah right
45:06>> but yeah I don't think
45:07>> might not have been his
45:08>> I don't think has done that I think Cash
45:10and Code did
45:11>> and Boon did to us one time
45:14>> and And then my other uh
45:17AL teams that have been to one World
45:18Series since 2009, it's us. Same with
45:22the Blue Jays, Cleveland, and the
45:23Tigers. Teams that have been to
45:25multiple.
45:26>> Those are the out of 15, there's only
45:27four that have been to one World Series
45:29since 2009.
45:30>> Yes. But there's teams that have been to
45:31multiple.
45:33Kansas City, Texas, Boston, Tampa, and
45:35Houston, who Houston considered to have
45:37a dynasty there for a little bit.
45:39>> Oh, so there's a lot of teams that have
45:40been to zero.
45:40>> Yes. But
45:43>> the Orioles.
45:45>> Yes.
45:46>> Zero.
45:46>> Zero. Orioles. Tough franchise.
45:50>> The White Socks.
45:52>> Correct.
45:54Tough. Tough franchise.
45:56>> Um the Royals have
46:01>> Seattle.
46:02>> The A's.
46:03>> The A's.
46:04>> Tough franchise.
46:05>> Mariners.
46:06>> Weird franchise.
46:07>> Angels.
46:08>> Tough franchise.
46:11Now the richest in all sports.
46:13>> Yeah.
46:17>> Well,
46:18>> twins. Twins.
46:21>> The Twinkies.
46:22>> Nice guys.
46:24>> Uh I think Luis Garcia Jr. is going to
46:26be the second baseman as of now. It
46:28could be it could be a uh Andy Phelps,
46:32Bubba Crosby situation. Free agency
46:34sucks besides like second base. There's
46:36a couple. One of them is Glabber. I
46:37don't think they're going to do that.
46:38One of them is Jazz. I don't think
46:39they're going to do that
46:41>> at at minimum. Totally makes sense. Even
46:44if they don't actually plan on it at all
46:46to say you are, whether you're trying to
46:48trade him or trade for someone else at
46:50>> Well, they have to. Rice has to play
46:51first. At least talk like it's an
46:53option.
46:54>> If Rice doesn't play first this year,
46:57>> then your whole team's [ __ ] forever
47:00>> because Judge is the DH for the next
47:01five years,
47:04you know, assume.
47:04>> At least needs regular time.
47:05>> Yeah. Yeah. Soon. And if you don't prep
47:07Rice to be a first baseman and you're
47:09saying he is going to be just a DH,
47:12your your lineup and your roster
47:14construction, Rice should be on a
47:16defensive first base. He should go spend
47:18time with Don Maddingley. He should go
47:20spend time with Keith Hernandez. You
47:22should just spend you just hire
47:24everyone, Tino, and he should come back
47:26a Wizard and see if it's available to
47:28him. I think he should play as many
47:30innings as he can defensively in spring.
47:33Like Rice playing first base has to be
47:36the biggest mission because Judge has a
47:39DH. You can't afford to lose him. You
47:41cannot afford to lose him. Well, yeah.
47:43And that's where I I also wondered if
47:48uh because Kashman had one line like
47:50currently assembled or something like
47:52that that you know could Garcia be
47:54another trade again piece or like what
47:56what else could be on the table because
47:58as as they talked about oh the other
48:00thing that the other thing that made me
48:02mad he says um one of one of Cashman's
48:05first words out of his mouth are how
48:06much we value contact and it's like
48:08that's still kind of not true um because
48:11you finished 26 six in batting average
48:14was it?
48:14>> Yeah. I mean, yeah,
48:16>> that like
48:16>> they don't know how to get it. We love
48:18it. We I love gold, right?
48:20>> If you know where to find it, well,
48:22>> let me know. Um, but yeah, I I they made
48:25it seem very clear like that's on the
48:27table. And if it is, all right. Like I I
48:30would say form a team identity. Like if
48:31you're going to be the Yankees that
48:32don't play defense, all right, we'll go
48:34get me a third baseman who's a Mer 2 and
48:37like like
48:39>> don't say that because then they're
48:40going to go get Suarez and then we're
48:43the same [ __ ]
48:44>> They won't do that.
48:45>> An old guy who can hit homers but can't
48:47play defense.
48:49>> Minor league invite. Um
48:51>> for sure.
48:52>> But yeah,
48:52>> they got Josh Donald.
48:54>> I'd still rather do that and have an
48:55identity. Like at least you believe in
48:57something and you're going to follow it.
48:58>> I mean they h they they have an
49:00identity. It's three true outcome. It's
49:02homer, walk, strikeout.
49:03>> Not this year, man. Their 24th on base
49:05percentage like
49:07>> Okay. Sorry. Their identity is homer.
49:11>> Yeah.
49:14Correct. And play out of position. I
49:18mean, no. I think no one
49:22Jazz not having a great season is
49:24brutal. McMahon and Trent were not. You
49:29can't say you didn't see that coming.
49:31The writing was on the wall that Trent
49:33wasn't going to repeat a unicorn season.
49:35And same with Wells,
49:37>> and I know Wells had a good end of the
49:38year.
49:39>> Catcher, center field, third base,
49:45>> second base,
49:47and then
49:49rookie at short stop, Vulpi at shortstop
49:53this year.
49:55Next year, Lombard
49:56>> last year.
49:57>> Oh. Cabierro.
49:59>> Caviierro Vulpi Lombard was your short
50:01stop.
50:02>> First baseman who can't play first.
50:04>> Free free agency is going to is an awful
50:07mess this year.
50:10And then the lockout's coming. They need
50:12to go trade for one of the Marlins to be
50:14a second baseman.
50:17Kind of a a must. We can do a whole
50:20season program. We'll do a lot of
50:22episodes.
50:23>> Uh I don't know where they find a third
50:25baseman at all.
50:27get creative.
50:29Only only other thing that I guess
50:31should be addressed in the nature of
50:32like what news came out of this pretty
50:35healthy no surprise injuries, no
50:37surgeries scheduled is worth mentioning
50:40on this episode about the press
50:41conference.
50:42>> They did.
50:44They were like the good news is Stanton
50:45finished the season healthy. He's going
50:47to be healthy for the offseason. Oh,
50:48great.
50:50>> What good news?
50:52>> There was uh
50:53>> he should go barnstorming. I think it
50:55was Boone
50:56>> in Japan.
50:57>> Did Boon say the line, "Stanton's
50:59heading into the offseason healthy?"
51:01>> They they so did Cashman.
51:02>> Yeah.
51:03>> They were like, "So that's good. He
51:04finished the season healthy. He's
51:05heading into the offseason healthy."
51:06>> They said it through gritted teeth.
51:07>> It's like And I love that for G.
51:09>> Yeah.
51:09>> You know, and they talked about how much
51:11G is a New Yorker and made to be here.
51:12Well,
51:13>> and isn't that so funny that they like
51:15ooze about that? They're like G has
51:17whatever it is. It's like, well, find
51:19other guys. Like they don't have to all
51:21be 6'3 bodybuilders who won MVPs, but
51:24there's other guys that want New York
51:25City.
51:26>> G didn't have that his first couple
51:28years they talk about. It took him a
51:29little bit to figure it out.
51:31>> Uh so maybe let him teach um
51:36>> CC. Uh
51:39>> not. It's fine.
51:41>> All right.
51:42>> Jeets. Go Yanks. Tell them Grams.
51:45>> Go Yankees.
51:48Let's go Yankees.
51:51Let's go Yankees.
51:54Let's go Yankees.
51:56Let's go Yankees.

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