Careers After ISB | Management Consulting @ Accenture Strategy — Transcript

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1. 0:00Hey everyone, welcome back to the
2. 0:01channel. So today we have Mr. Tashar
3. 0:04Bhya with us. Tashar is an alum uh from
4. 0:07ISB. He completed his bachelor's in
5. 0:10statistics uh from Sri Wankeshwara
6. 0:13College Delh University. Then he went to
7. 0:15work with KPMG as an analyst. He worked
8. 0:18there for a year. Then he shifted to
9. 0:20business consulting with Eva Ernstston
10. 0:22Young where he spent a couple of years.
11. 0:24Then he decided to go to ISB in 2024 and
12. 0:28he completed his uh MBA in 2025 and now
13. 0:34he's working with Axenture. So he has
14. 0:37you know had a unique perspective of how
15. 0:40consulting firms work. He has spent
16. 0:42broadly all of his professional tenure
17. 0:45in consulting uh which is the last I
18. 0:48think four years. Uh so my first
19. 0:51question to you Tashar is uh
20. 0:54when you went to ISB did you have it in
21. 0:56your mind that you want to only appear
22. 0:58for consulting interviews?
23. 1:01>> Um thank you for the introduction Satuk.
24. 1:04Uh to your question u in my applications
25. 1:08yes I had uh mentioned that I would want
26. 1:10to enter into the consulting space
27. 1:13itself. Um but I was open to other roles
28. 1:16as well. Uh primarily founders office
29. 1:18and general management roles
30. 1:20>> um that had a strategic bend to them. So
31. 1:23I also applied to jobs which had um some
32. 1:27sort of strategy founders office or an
33. 1:30entrepreneur in residence role uh within
34. 1:32my time in ISB.
35. 1:34>> Got it. Understood. And uh in terms of
36. 1:38accenture interviews, how many
37. 1:40interviews uh happened um on the hiring
38. 1:44day and were you asked a mix of
39. 1:47gueststimates and cases or was there a
40. 1:51behavioral round as well?
41. 1:54>> So um so I'll tell you the entire uh
42. 1:58interview life cycle. So first is your
43. 2:00interview shortlisting. Then uh we have
44. 2:04a buddy round. Uh unfortunately in my
45. 2:06case my buddy was traveling so they
46. 2:08couldn't take my uh buddy cases.
47. 2:11>> Um but in many a time buddies also take
48. 2:14uh the cases even though it's
49. 2:16non-evaluative in nature.
50. 2:18>> Okay.
51. 2:18>> I would still say to your audience that
52. 2:20it makes sense to still perform and make
53. 2:22a rapper with your buddy.
54. 2:24>> True.
55. 2:24>> Um because a lot they do give the
56. 2:27feedback to the MDs and the managers who
57. 2:28are eventually going to take your case
58. 2:30rounds. M
59. 2:31>> then we have the day one interview day
60. 2:34where I had a couple of case rounds. Um
61. 2:38so in my case uh both rounds were case
62. 2:41there were no guesstimates that were
63. 2:42asked. Uh both cases had a technological
64. 2:46bent to them. So
65. 2:49>> um so the first case was to help a bank
66. 2:52with a digital transformation
67. 2:55>> um from a customer experience angle
68. 2:59>> and uh the second was that a a large MNC
69. 3:02is entering
70. 3:04um the e-commerce space. So how would
71. 3:07you ch help them choose a particular
72. 3:09category in which they have to enter?
73. 3:12>> Got it. So two very interesting cases uh
74. 3:16quite different and no particular
75. 3:17framework that could be used in them. Um
76. 3:21and then yes uh after that uh you have
77. 3:24an HR round as well where they ask you a
78. 3:26couple of behavioral questions
79. 3:28>> along with explaining to you what the
80. 3:30role is going to entail and uh how um
81. 3:34like what your time is going to look
82. 3:36like at Axenture. So it's more or less a
83. 3:38soft offer situation.
84. 3:40>> Uh but there are eliminations in that
85. 3:43round as well I've heard.
86. 3:45>> Got it. So basis your experience does
87. 3:47accenture follow a yes no strategy like
88. 3:49McKenzie you know first interview may
89. 3:51you get a yes in the second you get a
90. 3:54yes only then you are given an offer or
91. 3:55is it a cumulative composite score that
92. 3:58is calculated?
93. 4:00So um it's eliminative. Um like in many
94. 4:04cases many of my peers didn't have a
95. 4:07second case round.
96. 4:08>> Um got it.
97. 4:10>> Yeah. So um once you have an have in in
98. 4:14many cases people who do really well in
99. 4:17the buddy rounds only have one case
100. 4:18round with the MD directly.
101. 4:20>> Um and then for some people say for in
102. 4:23my case there were two rounds uh because
103. 4:25I didn't have a buddy round at all. So
104. 4:28>> and then I'm sure there would be cases
105. 4:30where the buddy rounds didn't go as
106. 4:31well. So they had two cases as well. So
107. 4:34>> the first round is with an EM and then
108. 4:37after clearing that round you have an MD
109. 4:39round which is again another case.
110. 4:41>> Got it. And tell me more about life at
111. 4:44Accenture. Uh I know it's predominantly
112. 4:47a tech consulting firm. A lot of
113. 4:49projects uh are rooted in technology and
114. 4:52digital transformation. But which team
115. 4:54have you worked with? what has the work
116. 4:58and the client engagement uh look like?
117. 5:02>> Yeah. So um actually I would through
118. 5:06this medium tell your audience that uh
119. 5:08Accenture has a lot of conventional
120. 5:10casing cases as well which are there in
121. 5:13the firm. So in fact I had I currently
122. 5:16work with Accenture Song which primarily
123. 5:19deals with customer experience based
124. 5:21cases.
125. 5:22>> Um and uh even then I've also had the
126. 5:27opportunity of working in say a business
127. 5:30case development uh project as well.
128. 5:34Okay.
129. 5:34>> Then I did some process transformation
130. 5:36work with the um uh with a luxury beauty
131. 5:40client. Um I've also had the opportunity
132. 5:44to um do a GDM solutioning with a
133. 5:47partner for agentic AI which was really
134. 5:50new at that time. So uh when I had
135. 5:53initially joined so so there are a
136. 5:55plethora of cases typically the way
137. 5:58other consulting works um you have to
138. 6:00pitch yourself to the hiring ma sorry
139. 6:02the case manager and then they would
140. 6:05take an interview or they would evaluate
141. 6:07you bases your reputation and your uh CV
142. 6:10>> and in case they like you then they
143. 6:12would onboard you onto the case. So
144. 6:14>> um but yeah I I would say that there are
145. 6:18tech aspects to it also. So you have to
146. 6:20work with a lot of people who are from
147. 6:22the tech consulting space. You have to
148. 6:24work with like Axenture does have that
149. 6:28tech bent where they want things to be
150. 6:30solved a certain way. So
151. 6:32>> um anybody who's not uh really
152. 6:35comfortable with tech and is wanting to
153. 6:37get into Accenture should start taking
154. 6:39those courses and understanding that as
155. 6:41well.
156. 6:42>> Got it. But uh would you categorize
157. 6:44yourself as a generalist who has worked
158. 6:46across client uh clients and industries
159. 6:49over the last 10 months?
160. 6:51>> Yeah. Um I've had uh I've had an
161. 6:55opportunity to work with a telco.
162. 6:57Currently I'm uh I'm role I'm in the
163. 7:01transitionary phase but I'm currently
164. 7:03serving a luxury beauty client.
165. 7:05>> Oh. Um then uh in the middle I had also
166. 7:10uh been starved for a very short time on
167. 7:12a healthcare case as well. So a lot of
168. 7:16um different kinds of cases and a lot of
169. 7:18different kinds of problem statements as
170. 7:20well arise.
171. 7:21>> Um and with the agent AI uh GTM we were
172. 7:26uh doing retail and Telos both. So
173. 7:30>> um our target was that. So again I mean
174. 7:33all kinds of different industries uh you
175. 7:36get exposed to and you also get a lot of
176. 7:38different people to work with.
177. 7:40>> Got it. And uh when you say you solve
178. 7:43for customer experience and customer
179. 7:45needs for these clients what exactly are
180. 7:48you solving for? Are you solving for
181. 7:50customer acquisition or retention or
182. 7:52something else?
183. 7:54>> So um yeah so basically in we solve for
184. 7:58the entire customer life cycle. So
185. 8:01pre-sales, during sales and after sales
186. 8:03if I were to put it simply.
187. 8:04>> Got it.
188. 8:05>> Um so um pre-sales could be or you know
189. 8:08needs analysis. It could be um say there
190. 8:11is a problem right that the customer is
191. 8:13not uh coming to the client and is going
192. 8:15to the competitor right. So we do a root
193. 8:18cause analysis as well. M
194. 8:20>> um then um if I were to give you an
195. 8:22example of during sales, it's about the
196. 8:24customer experience, right? At the
197. 8:26conversion point, why aren't like the
198. 8:29sales teams able to convert these
199. 8:31customers?
200. 8:32>> Um and then of course your after sales
201. 8:35or retention. Um in that case, we check
202. 8:38for you know if there is any issues with
203. 8:41the drop offs in terms of the
204. 8:43experience. So for example a consumer
205. 8:45calls in they're like uh I don't like
206. 8:48the product or I am like it's taking too
207. 8:50much time for my problem to get solved
208. 8:53things like that. So
209. 8:54>> um and in that case we also check for
210. 8:56any sort of automation that can be done.
211. 8:58Say for example
212. 9:00>> in the real world if you would have seen
213. 9:02um swiggy chat bots right? Yeah. Uh so
214. 9:05so we do solve for things like that
215. 9:07where we look for customer intents which
216. 9:10can be automated which can be say
217. 9:13contained by a bot or um can be solved
218. 9:16through technology rather than going to
219. 9:18a human agent.
220. 9:20>> Got it. I think a good parallel for
221. 9:23Axenture song could be the Bane customer
222. 9:26uh experience which is I think the CX
223. 9:28team that Bane has.
224. 9:30>> Okay. which does very similar work like
225. 9:32you mentioned and um do you only do
226. 9:35strategy or do you also do
227. 9:36implementation for these clients?
228. 9:39>> So um I haven't had the chance to do
229. 9:43implementation but there are people in
230. 9:44my team who are in long-term
231. 9:46implementation projects.
232. 9:47>> Okay. So um usually what happens is when
233. 9:50a case team is formed there are a few
234. 9:52people from uh Accenture strategy and
235. 9:56Accenture technology consulting India
236. 9:58which is ATCI
237. 10:00>> which are deployed on a long-term basis
238. 10:02for the implementation and then there
239. 10:04are a few people who are there from
240. 10:06Axenture strategy or just there for the
241. 10:09uh strategy piece of it. So say for
242. 10:11example once we've done the solutioning
243. 10:13once we've say designed
244. 10:16>> uh any sort of workflows done our data
245. 10:18analysis we submit all of our reports to
246. 10:21these teams and then they eventually go
247. 10:22and and implement of course uh they do
248. 10:25keep reaching back to us if they have
249. 10:27any doubts or if they want to you know
250. 10:30say ask us to change I mean course
251. 10:33correct so they do take our advice on
252. 10:34that but more or less it's like 3 4
253. 10:37months you um do the case and then you
254. 10:40move on to the next project unless you
255. 10:42are on an implementation project that
256. 10:44is.
257. 10:44>> Got it. So one project for you would
258. 10:46typically last anywhere between one and
259. 10:48a half to two months
260. 10:50>> about 3 months uh um would be the
261. 10:54typical life cycle. I am also taking
262. 10:56into account that there would be some
263. 10:58days where the client would not be
264. 11:00available and then there would be some
265. 11:02days so where we won't be available. So
266. 11:04about 3 months would be um the typical
267. 11:07duration. If it is an end to-end
268. 11:09transformation then it can go up to 6
269. 11:11months also.
270. 11:13>> So like my current case is about 6
271. 11:15months uh because it's an end to-end
272. 11:16transmission sorry transformation where
273. 11:19we've first uh done the ASIS analysis.
274. 11:24Um and now um after asis we've sort of
275. 11:29uh devised our flows and now we are in
276. 11:32that phase where we are trying to get it
277. 11:34signed off from the client. So the
278. 11:35client has their own inputs, we have our
279. 11:38own inputs. So we have to marry them and
280. 11:40eventually send out the deliverables.
281. 11:42>> Got it. Very interesting. And um you
282. 11:46know you said that you were open for
283. 11:48founders office and consulting roles.
284. 11:51what happened at ISB in terms of maybe
285. 11:54an elective or a case comp or an
286. 11:56interaction which helped you zero down
287. 11:59on consulting as your post ISB career
288. 12:01path.
289. 12:03H that's actually a pretty interesting
290. 12:05question. So um so I actually spoke to a
291. 12:10lot of my uh peers and so first of all
292. 12:13my background was in consulting like um
293. 12:16I had done big for consulting before but
294. 12:19it was not the kind of cons and I was
295. 12:21front end so I was client serving in
296. 12:23both aspects I was from KPMG and eva
297. 12:25India um but uh what I did see was that
298. 12:29it was most mostly operational
299. 12:31consulting where I was not really
300. 12:32sitting with um you know the leadership
301. 12:35uh
302. 12:36>> that was mostly uh done by my partners
303. 12:40and the directors
304. 12:42>> um and probably a few senior consultants
305. 12:45who were out of B school. So, so didn't
306. 12:48get a chance to interact a lot with the
307. 12:50top leadership of uh my clients.
308. 12:53>> Um then, so even though I had an idea of
309. 12:57the ground work that was supposed to be
310. 13:00done um in consulting now when I went to
311. 13:03ISB um there were a few people who had
312. 13:05done this kind of consulting before
313. 13:06where they were from the EIP parathons
314. 13:08and the Mckenzies of the world. So they
315. 13:10had actually had exposure to that. Yeah.
316. 13:13>> So, so when I spoke to these folks, um I
317. 13:17realized that probably post MBA is um me
318. 13:22to for me to experience the full flavor
319. 13:24of consulting. So that's why I moved on
320. 13:26to join Accenture. And as far as the EI
321. 13:29and founders office roles were concerned
322. 13:32um that was simply because uh I had
323. 13:35actually not enough exposure of these
324. 13:37roles uh because of my past background.
325. 13:40But in ISB you meet all kinds of people.
326. 13:43>> So when you keep speaking to them you
327. 13:45realize that there is some sort of um
328. 13:48like the problem statement in these
329. 13:49roles is also quite dynamic um and uh
330. 13:53challenging uh so to speak. So so I
331. 13:56think the nearest parallel to consulting
332. 13:59for me was these roles. So that's why I
333. 14:01eventually um tried for them as well. I
334. 14:04actually cracked phone pay uh during my
335. 14:06day uh uh day one interviews. So and
336. 14:10eventually but I still thought that in
337. 14:13terms of overall like the overall
338. 14:15package accenture was offering a better
339. 14:16deal so that's why I think
340. 14:19>> Accenture recruits in very high numbers
341. 14:21from ISB so if if you don't mind
342. 14:23revealing how many offers were rolled
343. 14:26out during your batch by Accenture
344. 14:29>> uh about I think upwards of 75 offers
345. 14:33were rolled out uh for both uh the
346. 14:37experienced folks and the um analysts.
347. 14:41So
348. 14:42>> very good.
349. 14:43>> Yeah. So I think um
350. 14:46um I mean like they also have two roles,
351. 14:50right? So actually the thing is that ISB
352. 14:53is a unique case where they offer
353. 14:55consultant as well.
354. 14:57>> Um so which is not uh which I've not
355. 15:00seen typically in other B schools if you
356. 15:02don't have a certain level of work. So
357. 15:04in ISB they do also see your interview
358. 15:07performance and your past experience and
359. 15:09give you a consultant role um basis that
360. 15:12so I would say about 20% of the total
361. 15:15offers are for consultants and about the
362. 15:17others were of course for analyst
363. 15:20>> and you got a consultant offer
364. 15:22>> yeah I got a consultant offer
365. 15:23>> I think because of your prior work with
366. 15:25EVA and KPMG
367. 15:27>> yes I I they haven't disclosed uh but
368. 15:31based on my information I think Uh that
369. 15:34was because I had consulting workx uh
370. 15:37which was more than 3 years.
371. 15:39>> Got it. And would you mind revealing the
372. 15:41typical CTC that an analyst would earn
373. 15:43after ISB with Axenture and what a
374. 15:46consultant would earn? I think during my
375. 15:48time the CTC was 35.
376. 15:52>> Yeah, I think um that's pretty much what
377. 15:54it is currently as well. Um give or take
378. 15:58two three lakh rupees. M
379. 16:00>> and so consultant CTC's are also pretty
380. 16:03similar when it comes to the first year.
381. 16:05It is just that between analysts and
382. 16:07consultants there is a uh difference of
383. 16:11uh like the joining bonus is lesser.
384. 16:13>> Okay.
385. 16:13>> So um that and uh that joining bonus is
386. 16:18basically fit into um your base.
387. 16:21>> So you have a higher base but a lower
388. 16:23joining bonus. So in the second year
389. 16:25you'll see the real effects of being a a
390. 16:28consultant in terms of compensation.
391. 16:30>> Got it. And between the analyst and the
392. 16:32consultant in terms of hierarchy uh what
393. 16:35what is the difference? I mean is there
394. 16:37is an analyst one promoting cycle away
395. 16:40from being a consultant?
396. 16:42>> Um not one uh because I think uh like
397. 16:47that depends on case to case again. But
398. 16:50uh um I if I were to say
399. 16:54the slightly more experienced analysts
400. 16:56say who were on the cusp of being
401. 16:58consultant
402. 16:59>> who couldn't uh because of whatever
403. 17:02reason say interview performance or lack
404. 17:04of experience.
405. 17:05>> Got it.
406. 17:06>> For them they it is mostly one uh
407. 17:08promotion cycle.
408. 17:10>> Um but that also depends right if they
409. 17:12come into the firm and they have say a
410. 17:15first couple of their first couple of
411. 17:17cases went horribly wrong. So then
412. 17:20>> so then that uh changes the equation a
413. 17:23bit.
414. 17:24>> Um because in Accenture the thing is
415. 17:26your um next case or next staffing is as
416. 17:30it depends on your last staffing and
417. 17:32your last couple of staffing. So
418. 17:34>> so you have to have that virtuous cycle
419. 17:36where you keep working hard and you keep
420. 17:38uh maintaining your staffing
421. 17:41requirements. So
422. 17:42>> do you think that happens in big fours
423. 17:43as well which is the client feedback and
424. 17:46the partner feedback on the previous
425. 17:47engagement decides your future
426. 17:49engagement?
427. 17:50>> I honestly haven't had that experience
428. 17:52with big four to be on like um in my
429. 17:56experience big four you're tagged to a
430. 17:58particular industry
431. 17:59>> and in that particular industry whatever
432. 18:02case comes to you you are assigned basis
433. 18:04that and you are basically tagged to a
434. 18:06partner. Now, now I have had the chance
435. 18:09to experience both forms of uh
436. 18:11consulting. Of course, within that
437. 18:13partners team in big four, you do work
438. 18:15with different people. Um but uh it's
439. 18:20not say in this format where you know
440. 18:22Accenture operates or many other
441. 18:24consulting firms operate where um you
442. 18:26can go to a partner and say hey you have
443. 18:28this staff you have a we have a staffing
444. 18:30tool. So we can literally check that hey
445. 18:32this staffing is available this is the
446. 18:33hiring manager this is the um engagement
447. 18:38uh MD
448. 18:39>> we can go to them and say hey this is my
449. 18:41CV um and I'm interested in this case
450. 18:43and if you can please interview me
451. 18:46>> so
452. 18:47>> yeah so I think that is more towards
453. 18:50what I've heard uh it's more like people
454. 18:53who uh who are in MBB
455. 18:55>> because I think it's MBB also follows a
456. 18:57similar format
457. 18:58>> same rule yeah you can go to a partner
458. 19:01and pitch yourself and get starved on
459. 19:03the case.
460. 19:04>> Yeah. Yeah.
461. 19:05>> True. And what other difference have you
462. 19:08seen while working with Axenture as
463. 19:10compared to EVA and KPMG in terms of
464. 19:13culture, in terms of duration of
465. 19:15projects, in terms of structure?
466. 19:19>> So um I would say all three firms had a
467. 19:22different uh culture. uh even though I I
468. 19:25when I joined DIY I assumed that since
469. 19:28they are big force they would primarily
470. 19:30be pretty close in terms of culture but
471. 19:33uh that wasn't the case in Accenture
472. 19:35what I have seen is um that um in terms
473. 19:40of like in big four the duration of
474. 19:43cases uh the type of work was the same
475. 19:47>> more or less
476. 19:49>> um in Axenture I do get to work on a lot
477. 19:51of different kind of problem statements
478. 19:53So that is quite different.
479. 19:55>> Um in big four um like at least in my
480. 20:00experience it was more from an
481. 20:02operational lens and that was because of
482. 20:04the nature of my job more from a
483. 20:07>> um
484. 20:08say for example you know
485. 20:10>> like they would first figure out what
486. 20:12the problems are and then solve the
487. 20:14case. In this case we
488. 20:18in in Accenture's case many of times we
489. 20:21don't even know we know the problem but
490. 20:23we don't know like we we just have to
491. 20:25sort of figure out as to what the
492. 20:27solution would be while we are at it.
493. 20:29Got it.
494. 20:30>> So um that is different. Um I mean I was
495. 20:34not able to put it succinctly but
496. 20:35essentially
497. 20:37>> um
498. 20:39I mean I mean Accenture and MBB's work
499. 20:42at Blue Sky is thinking you don't know
500. 20:45what the playbook is. You have to find
501. 20:46it out.
502. 20:47>> Right. Right.
503. 20:48>> Big force it's more executional in
504. 20:50nature. You kind of know what the
505. 20:52problem is, what the solution is. You
506. 20:53have to execute and act on it.
507. 20:56>> Exactly. Exactly. Um you you got that
508. 20:58absolutely right and then of course
509. 21:00Accenture uh we are at that unique time
510. 21:04where you know Accenture sits at that
511. 21:06technology space and there is such a big
512. 21:08technology shift happening.
513. 21:10>> Um essentially um I feel lucky that way
514. 21:14that Accenture is very open to exposing
515. 21:16us to all kinds of technology. M
516. 21:19>> so be it like we have Google trainings
517. 21:21that are available to us. We have um all
518. 21:25kinds of enterprise licenses for AI
519. 21:27tools.
520. 21:28>> We also have our internal AI tools as
521. 21:30well. So um in fact uh every day every
522. 21:34second day we have a lot of AI trainings
523. 21:37going on from a practical standpoint
524. 21:39also that you build in class.
525. 21:41>> Wow. So, so I think um I also thought
526. 21:46that you know from a long-term
527. 21:47perspective if I were to stick to
528. 21:49Accenture for some time at least I can
529. 21:52um and like ride the wave of the
530. 21:55technological shift and the AI shift
531. 21:57that is happening.
532. 21:58>> Got it. But if somebody doesn't come
533. 21:59from an AI background or an engineering
534. 22:03background, they can still train
535. 22:04themselves do job and succeed. Um so the
536. 22:10beautiful thing is that you work with a
537. 22:11lot of uh tech people within the firm
538. 22:14right from people who are saying
539. 22:16Accenture strategy who um have had
540. 22:20experience with like who are engineers
541. 22:22who move to Accenture Strategy and then
542. 22:24there are of course people from
543. 22:25Accenture Technology Consulting India as
544. 22:28well.
545. 22:28>> Um those folks are really good at what
546. 22:32they do. They most sometimes they have
547. 22:34software engineering backgrounds. they
548. 22:36are product managers and so on and so
549. 22:38forth.
550. 22:39>> So you when you speak to them like in my
551. 22:42last case only like I was working with
552. 22:44an SM who has been in tech throughout
553. 22:46his life. M
554. 22:48>> so so he um like just having those
555. 22:52conversations with him helps you develop
556. 22:55that speak and then once naturally you
557. 22:58develop that speak you're like okay even
558. 23:00though I'm speaking it I should be able
559. 23:03>> to sort of understand and explain to a
560. 23:05lay man as to what it actually entails
561. 23:07very
562. 23:08>> so so that u that is something that you
563. 23:11would eventually get at Accenture where
564. 23:13you are speaking to these people and
565. 23:15then eventually once you understand
566. 23:17these things you sort of research more
567. 23:19about them and then they would also
568. 23:21encourage you hey if you've done this
569. 23:23technology then probably go and explore
570. 23:25this
571. 23:26>> and
572. 23:27>> very true so
573. 23:28>> and um understood and I think accenture
574. 23:32doesn't have so many levels that's why
575. 23:35it takes time for one to be promoted
576. 23:37from a consultant to a manager I've seen
577. 23:40>> that's true
578. 23:40>> yeah I've seen people at MBBS having a
579. 23:43promotion every one and a half years but
580. 23:45in Accenture it happens after two and a
581. 23:47half three years because the hierarchy
582. 23:49is a little squeezed. You don't have so
583. 23:51many levels.
584. 23:54>> Yeah. Um I think uh I mean I have had
585. 23:58haven't had the chance to per like uh
586. 24:01participate in a promotion cycle as of
587. 24:03yet
588. 24:04>> but um yes I think after consultant you
589. 24:08have manager then you have senior
590. 24:09manager and then you have your MD
591. 24:12>> and then between senior manager and MD
592. 24:14of course there could be some you know
593. 24:17transitionary levels for you to make it
594. 24:19to MD eventually
595. 24:21>> but yes the hierarchy is um squeezed and
596. 24:25um probably plus minus two years you can
597. 24:28get to an MD um as compared to an MBB.
598. 24:31So
599. 24:32>> got it.
600. 24:33>> Yeah.
601. 24:33>> And my last question to you is tell me
602. 24:35two things about Axenture which no open
603. 24:37forum
604. 24:39uh or website will provide to me in
605. 24:43terms of culture employees
606. 24:46uh trajectory anything that you've seen
607. 24:48which is unique to the firm.
608. 24:52So one thing I actually mentioned in
609. 24:53this interview um everybody looks at
610. 24:55Axenture as a tech consulting firm which
611. 24:58is not the case. You get to solve all
612. 25:00kinds of cases in Accenture itself.
613. 25:03>> Um in fact you can also see that um
614. 25:07there are a lot of people who are coming
615. 25:09to Accenture Strategy from um your big
616. 25:13fours from your MBBS also after doing
617. 25:15their stints with those firms
618. 25:17>> and then there are a lot of people who
619. 25:19are moving to those firms as well.
620. 25:20>> True. So, so that can only happen if you
621. 25:23have say you know transferability of
622. 25:25skills.
623. 25:26>> Um, so that is there I think uh like
624. 25:30people should not view it as a tech
625. 25:32consulting firm rather as a full service
626. 25:33consulting firm
627. 25:35>> only. And uh if I were to mention
628. 25:38another thing about Axenture then I
629. 25:40would say Axenture's culture is also
630. 25:42pretty open.
631. 25:44>> Um and uh I mean like you can go to any
632. 25:49partner you can for somebody who feels
633. 25:52that you know they belong to a
634. 25:55non-conventional background and they
635. 25:56can't make it to Accenture. It is not
636. 25:58the case. Axenture is pretty open. As
637. 26:00long as you're open to um learning and
638. 26:03learning a few hard things as well,
639. 26:06>> um there are enough support systems
640. 26:08within the firm who can support you and
641. 26:10you know help you grow. So
642. 26:11>> Got it.
643. 26:12>> Yeah.
644. 26:13>> Awesome. Thank you so so much for the
645. 26:14super insightful and open conversation
646. 26:17Bashar.
647. 26:18>> I'm 100% sure that this will help all
648. 26:21consulting aspirants.
649. 26:23>> Thanks. Thanks at Sure. Thank you so
650. 26:25much for your time. Thank you.