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0:02fight
0:06fight.
0:13Hey, what's up guys? Welcome to Law
0:16Explaining the Interwebs.
0:18I'm your host, Nick Ricada of Reca Law,
0:20a small law firm in central Minnesota.
0:24Sorry, I was in the shower.
0:27Oh my gosh.
0:30Okay.
0:32Anyway, my hair is still a little wet.
0:36We are going back. We are going back to
0:39the well, the well of debate between
0:42Candace Owens
0:44and uh
0:47Andrew Wilson. Now, much has been said
0:50in the wake of this debate. I want to
0:52address something very, very important
0:55right from the outset.
0:59There's an allegation out there that
1:01Andrew Wilson lost the debate
1:05because he was unable
1:08to uh he was unable to identify the
1:11seven charges
1:16the seven charges uh that have been put
1:20against Tyler Robinson. Okay.
1:24Now,
1:28sorry,
1:30still getting everything ready. Uh, he's
1:32been unable to identify those and
1:34Candace was able to identify those. Now,
1:38if
1:40and this is a big if, if you are
1:43handicapped in some way, you think that
1:45that matters maybe. I don't know what
1:49what do you want?
1:52No.
1:54No, I'm working. Not right now. I'll do
1:56it later.
2:00Amazing. The moment I start, she comes
2:04in here and asks me to do something
2:06else.
2:09Stop side eyeing me. That's right.
2:13Anyway,
2:17uh so there are some people out there
2:20who believe that for some reason the
2:23ability to identify charges was relevant
2:26at all to this debate.
2:31It's not. It's obviously not. It wasn't
2:34part of the initial framing of the
2:36issues. Right? The initial framing of
2:38the issues is quite simply Andrew Wilson
2:41was there to defend
2:44the proposition that the state has
2:47presented overwhelming evidence that
2:50Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk and
2:54killed him with a 306 mouser
2:58rifle from the top of the Losi building
3:01and then deposited the rifle into the
3:04woods.
3:06That is what Andrew Wilson was asked to
3:10defend or well that's what he set up.
3:13Remember I said at the beginning how you
3:14frame the debate matters. I mean I
3:17shouldn't say it matters because it
3:19doesn't really matter. Nobody cares that
3:22that was the question that he's asked.
3:24He has lost because of an unrelated
3:26issue of being unable to identify the
3:28seven specific charges even though his
3:30his debate topic is not related to the
3:34seven specific charges. Now, Candace won
3:37because Candace was able to identify the
3:39seven charges despite the fact that
3:42Candace's debate
3:44um proposition is that there is
3:49overwhelming evidence, same language,
3:52overwhelming evidence that Tyler
3:54Robinson is a pathy for the federal
3:57government's conspiracy to kill Charlie
4:01Kirk.
4:03Not that she believes it. Not that there
4:05are questions about it, but that there
4:07is overwhelming evidence and support.
4:10Now, I don't know. We've got a lot of
4:12debate left to go. But I'm going to
4:15guess that Candace never gets around to
4:18providing any evidence of this other
4:20than her intuition, which she spent time
4:24uh, you know, near the end of the last
4:26show talking about her intuition, how
4:28her intuition has told her that um that
4:33that's true and that she follows her
4:36intuition. She's very she's very smart
4:38and assertive that way. Don't you dare
4:40fuck around with her. she uh follows her
4:44intuition. How dare you suggest
4:46otherwise?
4:50So, I don't know. Like I I don't
4:52understand
4:53uh and this has always been a problem
4:55for me. I I really don't get internet
4:58debates very well. Um I don't tend to
5:01like participating in them for this
5:04reason. They're nonsensical. They're
5:06pointless. And uh there is no there's no
5:09referee calling calling balls and
5:12strikes, saying who wins, who loses, uh
5:15even keeping things on any sort of um on
5:19any sort of schedule or track. Patrick
5:21bet David might as well be wrapped up in
5:23bandages and called a mummy.
5:26That wasn't funny. That was that was a
5:28serious assessment. But um he might as
5:31well be that. Like he is worthless in
5:33this. Now, I hear he he p he chimes in a
5:35little bit later in the debate, so maybe
5:38we'll get to that tonight if I can stop
5:40gabbing.
5:42But who cares? Like, I don't I don't
5:44really want him to contribute to the
5:46debate.
5:48I want him to moderate the debate so
5:51that we get something intelligible
5:53because right now there's nothing.
5:57I'm going to say this to my assessment
5:59so far is not that Candace Owens has won
6:01the debate.
6:03She has not won the debate. Andrew
6:05Wilson may have lost the debate. Candace
6:07Owens has also lost the debate. I don't
6:11think either of them win the debate.
6:14Both of them demonstrate a lack of
6:16facts.
6:19Both of like a lack of knowledge of the
6:21facts. Candace demonstrates a lack of
6:24knowledge of basic and uh and
6:29complicated science. She demonstrates an
6:33overt lack of knowledge of any legal um
6:36legal process, legal terminology, legal
6:39concepts. I mean, it's amazing the
6:41people who are like, "Haha, Andrew
6:43Wilson couldn't identify the charges."
6:46It's like, "Oh, all right." But like, I
6:48don't know why he's why he has to
6:49identify the charges.
6:52Candace Owens can't explain anything,
6:57including the basic procedure that uh
7:00that she's talking about. She doesn't
7:02She doesn't get it.
7:05I got to find
7:08I'm missing a window real quick. Once I
7:10get this window up. Huh?
7:13Yeah, there we go.
7:17We're
7:20We're there. All right. All right. All
7:22right. All right.
7:25There is one more.
7:30No, I don't want I don't want this. Why
7:33would I want this?
7:39Okay, I just need to get this other
7:40chat. One second.
7:45There is one more one thing I want to do
7:49right before we get fully into the
7:51debate because there's breaking news.
7:55Breaking news in the Tyler Robinson
7:58case.
8:00Uh it has been revealed by the
8:03internet's foremost thinker, Diligent
8:06Denisen.
8:08It has been revealed, I'm so glad we can
8:11finally share this, that the government
8:15fed sloppers
8:17have manipulated
8:20stairwell surveillance video. I'm going
8:23to show you I'm going to show you that
8:25that happened real quick and then we're
8:27going to get into the debate. Where is
8:29my mouse? There it is.
8:32This is very important.
8:36Here
8:56we go.
8:58Prosecution caught mirroring.
9:04Tyler Robinson stairway camera.
9:08Okay.
9:16So he says uh court footage shows level
9:20two descending stairs on right side of
9:22video. In reality the stairs are on the
9:25left.
9:26They not only compressed video to look
9:29skinnier, they reversed it on the
9:31stairs. Why?
9:35This is amazing because I I don't know
9:38who was with me. I don't know if it was
9:41during the preliminary hearing or when I
9:42was on Paramount Tactical stream. I
9:45addressed this right away because I
9:47noticed it. I think it was during the
9:48preliminary hearing. in the preliminary
9:50hearing there was a little bit of a
9:53confusion because in one shot he's
9:57limping with his right leg and then in
10:00another shot which happens like
10:02immediately he's limping with his left
10:04leg and they're like maybe he moved the
10:05gun to the other pant leg and I was like
10:07more than likely the the image is just
10:10mirrored
10:16because the image is fucking mirrored.
10:18Now, this isn't the only place that this
10:20showed up.
10:22This isn't the only place this showed
10:24up. If you I don't know if you saw some
10:27of the discussion about the stretched
10:29and distorted security camera footage
10:32inside the garage,
10:34but inside the garage,
10:37they said, "Plus, he's using the wrong
10:41hand."
10:45you know, would explain both of those
10:48things right out the gate? Images are
10:51mirrored.
10:58Images are mirrored. Now, I said on my
11:01thread that security camera uh images
11:05are often mirrored. I didn't say always,
11:07but I said often. And some guy's like,
11:09"No, I install security cameras for a
11:12living, and that's not true." But they
11:14have but they are like I don't know how
11:16to say it. I don't know how to express
11:18this. You need to know the make and
11:20model of the camera, the type of the
11:22type of camera uh that they use. And
11:25then you need to know who installed it
11:27and what settings they did, how they
11:29mounted it, how they uh if they mounted
11:32it upside down and flipped the image or
11:34if they mounted it upside down and
11:35rotated the image. You know, there's
11:37there's a bunch of stuff and the
11:40assumption of competence on the
11:43installation of a security camera in a
11:45parking garage.
11:47Like you assume that because you do a
11:49job well that someone else did a job
11:51well or did it right or it hasn't been
11:52changed somewhere over the years. That
11:55assumption of competence is is silly.
11:57It's a fool's errand. But um some people
12:00do assume that because they're
12:02competent, other people are.
12:04overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
12:07But uh here, let's let's watch his his
12:09little video.
12:10>> All right, you guys. He caught the feds
12:12in another lie.
12:13>> They caught him.
12:14>> So, this is level three, parking level
12:17three at UVU where they have Tyler
12:19Robinson coming around the corner,
12:21coming down the stairwell. There's the
12:23camera right over here. But in the Fed
12:26version of their footage, this
12:28stairwell, which is actually on the
12:31left,
12:33let me just point out something for
12:35those for those sitting in the short bus
12:37still.
12:40He said in the Fed version,
12:43oh, sorry, he is very loud. I'll I'll
12:46fix that.
12:48Uh
13:00in the Fed version, it's not a Fed
13:02version. It's the University of Utah
13:06security camera and the state
13:08prosecution. It's not the Fed version of
13:11this. This is just
13:14the school's camera feed.
13:17which is actually on the left,
13:20which does, by the way.
13:25I'm I'm going through all this
13:26needlessly.
13:28This
13:30also just doesn't matter.
13:35It also just doesn't matter because
13:41if the image is flipped, but it's still
13:43an accurate representation of what
13:45happened, which is Tyler Robinson
13:47walking up or down the stairs, and you
13:49can explain the flip, then everyone
13:51understands what it is.
13:56On their version, it's on the right. So,
13:58they have completely reversed this
14:00image.
14:01Not only have they reversed the image,
14:03they have also got the time stamps
14:06because if you reverse the image,
14:07>> he's also inadvertently showing a
14:10problem with um with some of their
14:13assertions where they're like the
14:15clothes don't even match.
14:18In some cases, he did change outfits,
14:20but they're like that doesn't look like
14:22the same person. Doesn't look All of
14:24these images are distorted in multiple
14:26ways. Um, you know, these cameras are
14:30sometimes set up so they operate in low
14:32light uh or lower light. They they can
14:35have washed out images and daylight or
14:37and other things. So, it's like
14:41there's always an assumption of
14:43wrongdoing
14:44because that's the conspiracy mindset.
14:47The wrongdoing has to have occurred. We
14:50don't know that it has. Maybe it did,
14:53but maybe it didn't. And until you have
14:56evidence of wrongdoing, you can't assume
14:59that it's wrongdoing. There are other
15:00plausible explanations.
15:03Uh
15:04sixes says the windows are different.
15:08Uh windows are clearly not the same.
15:09It's a different stairwell entirely.
15:13Uh oh, I see I see what you're saying. I
15:16see what you're saying. Let me
15:20let me pause that though. I see what
15:24you're saying. However, you got to
15:27remember that the security camera is
15:28using a wide angle lens, a completely
15:32different lens than Diligent Denisonin
15:34is using. Diligent Denisonin is using
15:37what appears to be a larger lens or a
15:39phone camera with a probably decent size
15:42sensor and it produces a flattened image
15:45rather than a rounded, distorted,
15:48bulbous image. This is the problem with
15:50trying to say, "Oh, he doesn't he looks
15:52one way or another way or he's
15:53inconsistent." Yeah, the cameras are
15:56inconsistent and where he is in the
15:58frame is going to produce different
15:59outcomes, but
16:04the time stamps can be reversed as well.
16:06So, something adding up here. Here's
16:08level two proving that the stairwell is
16:12actually on the left.
16:15All right, guys. But you didn't have to
16:18lie. You didn't have to prove that. No
16:20one asserted that the stairwell was one
16:22way or another.
16:25Who cares? It doesn't it doesn't change
16:29what happened on camera.
16:32And this is the ultimate problem. It's
16:34the ultimate issue with all of these
16:36arguments. They're arguing over minutia
16:39that is is at the end of the day
16:42completely irrelevant.
16:44Um let me
16:58Hold on.
17:02Pull my locals chat up in a better spot.
17:10Why would you do that?
17:12No. Don't.
17:17There we go.
17:21All right. And last thing is I'm going
17:23to pin the super tips link if anybody
17:26wants to try out super tips. I need to
17:28get a Candace Owens voice on super tips,
17:30I think.
17:38Here we go. Super tips are being pinned
17:40in both chats. Oh, that's already pinned
17:43by unbreaded.
17:45Thank you very much. in the uh in the
17:48rumble chat.
17:51Okay.
17:54Yeah. So, we saw the the security
17:57camera. It's like a square with a dome
17:59on it. So how they installed and
18:01oriented the camera and then whatever
18:05software changes they made to that image
18:07if they made any
18:09doesn't I mean we don't know that
18:12information but that information will be
18:14attached in some way to the uh to the
18:18data around the collection of of the
18:21footage and um or in the testimony
18:24around the and around the collection of
18:26the footage and the of course the
18:29defense will be able to cross-examine
18:32the person who's authenticating the
18:33footage. They're probably gonna run into
18:36a wall on it, but coding ATC says,
18:39"Being this late, I'm going to assume
18:40your suspension will be eternal."
18:44Uh, Dra Dra Luka says, "I have a novel
18:48legal theory question. If Biden could
18:51pardon in the future and for wide
18:54categories, could Trump say, "I pardon
18:56any crimes from anyone against so- and
18:59so." You cannot pardon anything ahead of
19:03time.
19:05You can't pardon anything ahead of time,
19:08but effectively the president can renew
19:11a pardon
19:12and or reissue a pardon up until the day
19:15he leaves office. So, you know, uh it's
19:20kind of it kind of gets fuzzy. It's it's
19:22almost impossible to question them as
19:23well, but no, you can't pardon for the
19:26future. Biggest fan 007s and some
19:29jewels. Thank you. Raggedy Man says, "Is
19:31two counts of witness tampering relevant
19:33to the debate? It seems ridiculous." No,
19:37no, the debate isn't about the charges,
19:40and the debate isn't about a conviction.
19:44Now, I mean, you can extrapolate a
19:46conviction from Andrew's position, of
19:48course,
19:49and from Candace's position.
19:53We should be able to extrapolate a
19:55not-uilty verdict, right? That's the
19:57idea. But you can't because the terms of
20:01the debate are about the evidence
20:03presented
20:04that Tyler Robinson did these very
20:07specific things. There's a there's a not
20:11real very hypothetical
20:14uh con constructed situation where we
20:17say that uh Charlie Kirk was about to
20:20have uh was about to murder Tyler
20:23Robinson. He did all the shootings. So
20:26Andrew wins, but he does it in
20:27self-defense. Is a legal justification,
20:30but it isn't about the legality. It
20:32isn't about a conviction. So no. And no,
20:35obviously the witness tampering is not
20:36relevant to the debate.
20:40Uh, Dra Looka says, "Also, I had someone
20:42on X ask for a more reputable source
20:45than you in regards to the phrase," fuck
20:48you, it's my gun. Midwits are peak
20:51tires.
20:53Fuck you, it's my gun. Can I get a
20:55better source on that?
20:58We the rabble says, "What about the
20:59dream Candace had? Game over." That's
21:01true. That is true.
21:06She wanted Charlie Kirk to come to her
21:08campus.
21:10Ryan Ryland Pool says, "Send a super tip
21:13last night. It didn't process until 9:00
21:15a.m. I don't know if Stripe or my credit
21:17union is to blame. You look like a
21:19homeless got rained on." Micro.
21:24That's true. That's true. Um,
21:29yeah. You know what's annoying is I
21:30don't I don't even see it.
21:33It's not even waiting for me. So, it
21:34might have refunded to you. I'm not
21:37sure.
21:39Uh, Heather Whitaker, member for 20
21:42months, says, "Please cover the KEFD
21:44trial. Opening arguments on Monday."
21:46What the fuck is that? Uh, Gabriel
21:49Archer sent 10 jewels. Thank you. Laser
21:52Beam Hawkins, member for seven months.
21:54Nick, you look like a guest star villain
21:57on Miami Vice. Yes. Yep. Omnistache
22:01Gaming says, "Hey, Ricada Law, I just
22:03brought my firstborn child home
22:05yesterday. Can I get a toast for him?"
22:08Of course you can. I'm really proud of
22:10you. He's 26 now, right? So, it's cool
22:12that you brought him home for the first
22:13time.
22:17O'Keefe.
22:21All right. Uh, Omnist Stash Gaming,
22:24cheers to you. Cheers to the new uh
22:27firstborn child.
22:30May they be a him. May he be a source of
22:33eternal joy, wonderment, learning, and
22:37uh an instruction for you that you can
22:41reciprocally deliver to him.
22:44Blessings to you and your families.
22:46Cheer family. Cheers.
22:53All right.
22:55Should we get into this? Should we start
22:57this stream up now?
23:03Uh, get out of there. Get out of there.
23:06Where? Where am I supposed to be? I
23:09guess here.
23:11Okay, let's go. Let's just do this. I
23:13think this is a I think I have to back
23:15it up just a tiny bit.
23:20She's got hungry eyes.
23:24I feel the magic between you and
23:28>> Wait a second.
23:29>> I just I just want to make sure that I
23:30got this right. That's your argument to
23:32me, right?
23:33>> My argument to you is what?
23:34>> My argument your argue
23:36>> Okay, we did watch We ended somewhere
23:39around here. What? Wait, we ended
23:42somewhere around here yesterday, but I
23:43don't know. Uh I don't know exactly
23:45where it was. argument to me is that hey
23:48wait a second Andrew there's not enough
23:51here that convinces me right
23:52>> well that's actually my rebuttal to you
23:55is that you are saying why are people
23:57engaging in what you term to be
23:59conspiracy theories I I I term it to be
24:02thinking they're just thinking because
24:04they're recognizing there are a lot of
24:05holes in these stories
24:06>> so here's the crazy thing I and I'm
24:08we're gonna this might take a while
24:13they're recognizing there are a lot
24:16holes in this sto in these stories.
24:23There aren't holes in the story. There
24:26may be information we don't have yet or
24:30whatever, but the wherever we're lacking
24:33information is not actually like some
24:37absence of narrative. It's not some flaw
24:41in the discussion. They're like, "Aha."
24:43They don't know if his shirt was maroon
24:45or black. Well, who fucking cares? I
24:47mean, if you can identify him, you can
24:49identify him.
24:51Well, why is he wearing a different
24:52colored shirt? I don't know. I It
24:54doesn't matter.
24:57Oh, Keefe is the Tupac uh murder, right?
25:05But that doesn't that doesn't make a
25:06hole in the narrative. She's like, there
25:08are holes in these stories. There really
25:10aren't.
25:12There really aren't a lot of holes here.
25:15In fact,
25:17I can't I hate saying it this way,
25:24but this is a really solid case. Like,
25:27it's it's hard to look at this case and
25:29go, you know what? I can see a ton of
25:31problems.
25:33Maybe you go, I'm not quite sure how
25:35they fill this in or that, but we have
25:37clues. Like if you know how to what to
25:40look for.
25:42What are we talking about?
25:50Clum says, "At first I hated your hair
25:53and now I don't know the word for the
25:55rage I feel. Keep up the great work, you
25:58asshole."
26:01Uh, yeah. I got I got to get in. I got
26:04to get in and get it cut. It's it's
26:06getting to be slightly unruly
26:08>> and that this is not strong evidence,
26:10right? This is the reason they're doing
26:12it. I'm I'm explaining to you this is
26:13the reason that they're doing it. I'm
26:15I'm addressing what you view to be
26:17overwhelming evidence. And and by the
26:19way, I want to be clear
26:20>> that which convinces me.
26:22>> What? Yeah. Well, but thus far, every
26:25point that you brought up,
26:26>> every point that you've brought up,
26:28would you did you feel like this is
26:30beyond a reasonable doubt? I mean you're
26:31you realize remember what I said in my
26:32opening going to be
26:34>> it's not beyond a reasonable doubt. It's
26:36just what I find convincing is what I
26:38find overwhelming.
26:39>> So why are you so upset when people say
26:41they don't find it convincing?
26:42>> That was the limitation of the claims
26:44that you made if it was just wait a
26:47second. People are also mad that Andrew
26:49Wilson uh when asked they said how or
26:54Candace said, "How convinced are you
26:56that Tyler Robinson
26:58um is the killer?" And Andrew Wilson
27:02said, "Uh I don't know, like 75% or so."
27:05And they're they're ripping him to
27:07shreds that he said 75%. Now, we went
27:11through this. I said he should have been
27:12more aggressive, more assertive
27:15of his position.
27:17But I get it. How can you be beyond a
27:20reasonable doubt when we still have
27:23we still have a trial, right? If he had
27:25said he's 100% convinced or 99%
27:27convinced, they'd be like, "There's not
27:29even a trial yet. It's all hearsay."
27:31Like that that would be the
27:32counterargument. But they're they're
27:34going after him on that. And this is all
27:38this is all nonsensical because at the
27:40end of the day,
27:43we can't know what happened. We don't
27:46even have the full narrative laid out.
27:48We just have the prosecution side. How
27:51sure are you? I think he's hedging his
27:54hedging his uh assertion. We're like
27:56overwhelming evidence is 75%. That's not
27:59the standard. It's like well but we're
28:01not there yet. We're not there. Now
28:04compare and contrast though. He asked
28:07Candace Owens what percentage chance she
28:10thinks there is that Tyler Robinson shot
28:13Charlie Kirk and she says 0%. And that's
28:16reasonable. Apparently,
28:19this is an internet debate. There is no
28:22logic. There is no reason. There's
28:24nothing other than be the first one to
28:27call the other person a faggot. Do
28:29within the first minute. Take assert
28:31dominance. Look them in the eyes while
28:34you say it.
28:36Look him in the eyes. Slowly mouth it.
28:40Fagg it. Just win the debate right
28:44there. That's all that matters. What is
28:46the point? What is the point of this
28:48discussion? Neither of these two, and
28:51this isn't a criticism or a knock on
28:53either of them. Neither of them know
28:54about DNA forensic analysis. They don't
28:58need to. It's not their It's not their
29:00job to do that. I mean, maybe they can
29:02polish up on it for a debate or
29:04whatever.
29:05I don't know a ton about it. I know how
29:08to uh I know I know some of the pitfalls
29:12of lay interpretations of some of the
29:15terms. That's about it. I'm not sitting
29:18in a lab. What do I look like? Do I do I
29:21look like someone who if I'm in a lab,
29:24they got to they got to lock all the
29:25cabinets. Like I can't be around any of
29:27that stuff. So, I I don't know anything
29:31other than I know that I know where some
29:34people are wrong because I know that I
29:37was like, I don't know if that's right.
29:39Let me look into that. Oh, is that true?
29:41You investigate it and you go, "Oh, no.
29:43This person doesn't know anything about
29:44it at all."
29:48So, we're not going to sus out anything
29:51meaningful around the evidence. So
29:54again, Andrew's job in this, in my
29:56opinion, was to go up and just list,
29:59just do a flat list. This is all of the
30:02evidence and say, "All right,
30:05there's all the evidence that I'm
30:07presently aware of. There might be more.
30:09I might have forgotten something. I
30:10might have overlooked something." Now,
30:12what I'm going to do is I'm going to lay
30:14out the narrative, and then we're going
30:16to see if that narrative is supported by
30:21the evidence. And then once I'm done
30:23with that, you can ask me about anything
30:27that you find defective in my assessment
30:30of the evidence and my assessment of the
30:33narrative and my marrying of those two
30:35things together in holy matrimony.
30:38Right? And here's the problem. Candace
30:40wouldn't be able to do that in any
30:43meaningful way because Candace can't do
30:46that. Her brain doesn't function in that
30:50capacity. She does not understand cause
30:52and effect. Things are not they don't
30:55make logical sense to her. So, she would
30:58flounder on this thing. Andrew wouldn't
31:01be getting bogged down in defending
31:04meaningless assertions and positions
31:06that he doesn't even hold or need to
31:08hold.
31:10But he he took the wrong approach in my
31:12opinion. I'm not here to praise him.
31:16Praise be. I don't hate him. I don't
31:19like like I don't care about him either.
31:21Not not to be mean. Nacho man Randy
31:24Sandwich says Ringo Star attorney at
31:26law. Thank you. Just some guy says,
31:29"Sorry just joining, so maybe you've
31:31addressed this, but Candy got almost
31:32every aspect of the hearing wrong,
31:34including calling the hearing a trial."
31:36She also never answered what Erica is
31:39complicit in. Of course not. It's
31:42something. It gives her the ick, you
31:44know, makes her feel wrong. Her
31:46intuition tells her. Malcolm Palm says,
31:48"It seemed like every time Andrew tried
31:50to press Candace for details on her
31:52claims, she tried to deflect and change
31:54the direction of the discussion. Am I
31:55wrong?" You're not wrong, but she might
31:57not have tried to do that. You have to
32:00remember that Candace Owens is retarded
32:06at the beginning and the end of the day.
32:08It's not even just the end of the day,
32:09beginning and end. She is an idiot. Flat
32:13out. I don't mean that in a porative
32:15way. It's a clinical assessment. This
32:17chick is dumb.
32:21So when it's like, "Oh, she changed
32:22subject." She's She's not necessarily
32:24dodging.
32:26It's like a blind guy walking through
32:28traffic and not getting hit by cars.
32:30Like it's not because it's on purpose.
32:33Uh Jay Literer says, "Candice Owens is
32:35not a true believer. She's just a
32:37gaslighter."
32:40Juzy68 says, "I first noticed you
32:42several years ago when you dismantled
32:44some leftist from England." Duncan
32:46Duncan Mloud, uh, "My reaction to this
32:49debate is that entertainment/clicks has
32:51won over reason. Sad Wilson wins bar
32:54none." Now, it's an unpopular opinion,
32:58but I agree with you that Wilson Wilson
33:01should be the victor in the debate, but
33:04not because of his stunning performance.
33:08He's the victor in the debate because
33:09Candace Owens is literally incorrect
33:13about every assertion that she makes.
33:16She just doesn't get it. She the entire
33:20the entire stream yesterday they were
33:21talking about fingerprints.
33:24There aren't fingerprints on the gun
33:26like that that wasn't collected or that
33:29wasn't meaningfully collected. It wasn't
33:31testified to at the probable cause
33:33hearing is DNA. But she kept saying the
33:36prince. The prince. People were getting
33:37confused on it. I don't know if she even
33:39knows.
33:41I don't know if she even knows that it
33:44was not a fingerprint, but it was DNA.
33:56Uh DD Dongle
34:00says the smoking gun against all the
34:02conspirators is the number of people and
34:04agencies involved in their grand
34:06conspiracy beliefs. All these agencies
34:08involvement and no opsac viol violations
34:12spillage. Well, they're, you know, they
34:15also have the perfect plans and access
34:16to all of this advanced technology and
34:19the most highly trained people, but
34:21they're all they're all incompetent and
34:23leave breadcrumbs everywhere that
34:25Candace Owens is uniquely qualified to
34:27sniff out.
34:31Okay, here we go. There's a little bit
34:33of problems. There's some problems in
34:35this case that I have questions for that
34:36I want answers to. Nobody have a problem
34:38actually, least of all me. I would be
34:41the least likely person to have an issue
34:43with you, any of your fans, anybody
34:45saying, in fact, I've had tons of
34:47Discord calls about this. My position's
34:50always been clear. Of course,
34:51conspiracies exist.
34:56Uh,
34:58Lano Billy says, "When you criticize
34:59Candace, you call her names. When you
35:01criticize Andrew, it sounds like an
35:02apology for your shallow gag reflex.
35:05Why?" Um, I have to make up making fun
35:08of Candace because I made fun of Andrew
35:10a whole lot for being a snicker.
35:17Ah,
35:19Olive jar
35:21submissive.
35:25I don't have much cause to make fun of
35:28him right now. Uh, yesterday near the
35:32end, he got into the why wouldn't they?
35:34Why wouldn't they? Why would they? Why
35:36would they? And like I complained about
35:38it, but there's nothing to make fun of
35:40there. That's just to me that that's a
35:43tactical and strategic error because
35:45it's it's uh it's useless. It's useless
35:49prattling.
35:52It's not particularly stupid, though.
35:54Candace is stupid.
36:00Candace is actually stupid. Like, and
36:03again, I'm not trying to be insulting
36:06when I say that.
36:09Candace
36:12cannot put together that you have to
36:15step with one foot and then step with
36:18the other foot. She doesn't She doesn't
36:19know those things. Like, she doesn't
36:22understand that you have to turn a door
36:24knob to open a door.
36:26One thing happening and then the next
36:28thing happening, those aren't related to
36:30her. She exists moment to moment and
36:34each moment is an entirely new newly
36:36created universe that she's in.
36:43Larry Legend says Candace is a genius.
36:45How much money is she making? She's
36:47really good at making money. Of course,
36:51I mean,
36:53she also has a nice base amount of money
36:58might be helping fuel the money that
37:01she's making,
37:02which awesome job, by the way. That's
37:05not a criticism,
37:10but we'll we'll just see.
37:15Here's the thing about making money in
37:16the way that Candace does. If Bridget
37:19Mcronone wins her case, and I don't
37:22think she should even be able to sue
37:23Candace, but it's not up to me. If
37:25Bridget Mcronone wins the case against
37:28Candace, if that happens,
37:32the damages
37:34the damages are all like it's it's
37:37borderline incalculable.
37:39$500 million.
37:43How do you how do you weigh the damage
37:46of getting
37:48the American population to see Bridget
37:50Mcronone as a man? Like I what what even
37:53is the damage? Like you you can't fathom
37:57it.
38:05I can see the porn you're watching on
38:07the other screen reflect reflected in
38:09your glasses. Yes, it's true.
38:17Some of them have way better evidence
38:19than others, but I've seen them myself.
38:21I know conspiracy. In fact, the federal
38:23government has hundreds of thousands of
38:25laws about conspiracies. They see them
38:27everywhere. We both know this, right?
38:30That's never the what the problem is.
38:32The problem is when you make claims
38:34outside of, well, wait a second. I'm
38:38just questioning evidence here. I'm just
38:39questioning what the state's case is
38:41here. I'm just asking questions. It's
38:43when you make claims outside of that
38:45where you claim that there's good
38:46evidence or good standards you should
38:49believe because and then it turns out
38:51that it's all nonsense or it's whackadoo
38:53stuff or it it makes no sense. And when
38:56we have a chance to cross-examine your
38:58evidence that you've presented, I'm
38:59going to show a lot of that. A lot of
39:01this conjecture that's based on
39:03literally nothing that leads from no
39:06inferences whatsoever. like you couldn't
39:08even infer it logically. That's the
39:11problem. The problem has never been.
39:13>> He's right. Of course, who wants to be
39:16lectured by an argument or debate
39:18professor about your about your
39:21inability to infer stuff? Like, no one
39:23wants to be told that. So, I'm sure
39:25Candace doesn't like it, but she also
39:27may not understand it because it's said
39:29in basic English, but she she's talking
39:32about inferences when she means
39:35coincidences.
39:37That's what she's doing. She does not
39:40understand the concept of an inference.
39:43She doesn't know that the thing that
39:45you're inferring from the from the
39:49evidence has to be logically or
39:53rationally related to the to the
39:56evidence. It has to be related to the
39:59evidence for you to draw the inference.
40:01Otherwise, it's just a speculative
40:04co-occurrence.
40:05She doesn't know.
40:09Patty Leather says, "Uh, Andrew tried to
40:13make it a logic test. Candace had actual
40:15evidence." What evidence does Candace
40:17have?
40:18I've seen none.
40:21Whether or not you just said, "You know,
40:23there's not enough in this case so far
40:25until we get to the trial." I Eve says,
40:28"I think you have a crush on Candace."
40:30Why would I have a crush on Candace?
40:32First of all, she's fat, otherwise known
40:35as pregnant. Second of all, she's black.
40:38I have very specific requirements for
40:41being attracted to a black woman, and
40:43Candace does not meet them. She can't
40:45she can't measure up. I need a Michael
40:49Strahan tooth gap in that bitch's mouth,
40:52and I need her to be shaped like a white
40:54chick. Candace is almost shaped like a
40:56white chick, but she's shaped kind of
40:57like a boring white chick.
41:00Sorry. No thanks. Not on my watch.
41:05Batch rare SP. Not Not you. Of course.
41:08Candace is the batch.
41:11Uh Candace, I don't want a tooth gap on
41:14any other ethnicity. Don't you do that
41:17to me. The tooth gap is only, it only
41:21belongs on black chicks who are other,
41:25you know, who are hot and are shaped
41:27like white, like a hot white chick. Then
41:30if they don't have the tooth cap, I
41:32don't want to be around and get away
41:33from me. Ew, ick.
41:36Rare. A respawn noob says, "Candice,
41:40I don't trust reliable hearsay in a
41:42prelim hearing. Also, Candace, I heard
41:44from an email someone say Tyler's a
41:46pathy. Imagine being married to this
41:48lady. I can't. Her teeth are together.
41:50Sandy Hook president gets Erica money.
41:54Money money. Possibly.
41:57Possibly.
42:00But how? Andrew looks a little mad here.
42:04I remain unconvinced. I'm sure there's
42:05tons of people who remain unconvinced
42:07yet until we get to the trial. I think
42:09that's fine. I think it's fine. There's
42:11people who are convinced.
42:13Raggedy man says, "Dude, what?
42:16Wait, are you talking to Breijit
42:17Mcronone?"
42:23Astro Dragoon, let me address this
42:25because Andrew didn't do a good job of
42:26addressing this. He doesn't have to,
42:28though. He doesn't have to. Do you know
42:32what an admission is? An admission isn't
42:36proof, by the way. An admission, yeah, I
42:39killed that guy. Is not proof that you
42:41killed someone. No, it is evidence that
42:44you did. It's evidence that you killed
42:47someone. And without another
42:48controverting fact, it's reasonable to
42:50assume that evidence makes it more
42:53likely that you killed someone than you
42:55didn't. But you could be lying. You
42:56could be joking. You could be um you
42:59could be crazy. You could it could have
43:01been impossible. You could be taking the
43:02blame for someone else. There's a whole
43:04bunch of reasons to make those
43:05statements. But Candace does something
43:08that again,
43:10I don't know that she's even trying to
43:12do this. And she does it with those text
43:13messages.
43:15The time in which those text those
43:17messages occur,
43:21she pretends that no time elapses, they
43:24all happen in the same instant.
43:29What is this? Curious Goy says, "You're
43:31a a fucking racist, dude." What are you
43:33talking about? What makes me a racist?
43:40What? What are we?
43:43Because she doesn't have a tooth gap.
43:45That's not my fault. That's her fucking
43:46orthodontist.
43:51I didn't say I don't like black chicks.
43:53I said I like black chicks who are
43:55shaped like hot white chicks and have a
43:57tooth gap. That's it. It's I definitely
44:02I laid out what How can you do this to
44:05me? How can you do this to me?
44:20You said you want a gap in between the
44:22tweet. Well, in the teeth. The front
44:24just the front two teeth. Yeah. I I
44:26don't know what it is. I like it, but
44:30not on any other like I have different
44:32preferences for other races or whatever.
44:39Wait a minute. No. See, this is how the
44:41game of telephone here. You're racist if
44:43you don't like black chicks. That's not
44:45real. LIKE I DO I DO I just like a
44:47specific subcategory of them. What the
44:50hell is happening?
44:56Okay. So, anyway, back to these messages
44:58though.
44:59Tyler Robinson is laying out
45:03that he Yeah, he didn't want to tell
45:05anybody about it, but he is talking to
45:08Lance as he is being identified at least
45:11by photograph as a person of interest.
45:14And it's it's going around. People are
45:16starting to Hey, that looks like Tyler.
45:20Hey, he's realizing that his plan
45:23failed.
45:25His plan failed.
45:31So now he knows he's going to prison.
45:35Why does he confess? He knows he's
45:37fucked, guys. Like
45:40the only Tyler Robinson does not believe
45:44that Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie
45:47or killed Charlie Kurt. Wait, what?
45:49Tyler Robinson does not believe that
45:52Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk.
45:55Tyler Robinson believes that Charlie
45:58Kirk was shot in the neck and killed by
46:01Tyler Robinson.
46:04That's the person who most thinks he did
46:07it.
46:10Probably followed closely by Lance and
46:13his father.
46:18The three biggest witnesses
46:22that say that Tyler Robinson killed
46:25Charlie Kirk are Tyler Robinson, his gay
46:30boyfriend, and his super conservative
46:33gayhating father. What are we talking
46:36about? Why are we off in all of these
46:38fantasies?
46:40It's like, oh, well, it could be the
46:42feds. It could be it could be whatever,
46:44but it isn't. It's just this loser.
46:49That's who it is. And you know how I
46:51know? He told me. And he told his his
46:55buddies on Discord and he told his
46:56boyfriend. He told his dad. He probably
46:58told someone else. Yeah. He probably
47:00tried to pick up another boy. Said,
47:02"Yeah, it was me. That was me. I was
47:04tired of the hate.
47:07What a fucking dork." where all there's
47:11the
47:13never never in American history has a
47:17bigger faggot been simp for by a bigger
47:20group of conservative idiots. Like what
47:23are we talking about? This doesn't make
47:25any sense at all.
47:28This guy killed one of the preeminent
47:33conservative
47:35uh contemporary conservative speakers
47:37and thinkers
47:39as an LGBTQ plus whatever of which I am
47:44too of course and so I can say that he
47:48did that because Charlie Kirk's
47:52conservatism
47:54and conservatives are like we got to
47:56defend this little weirdo who killed the
47:59guy that we really like.
48:02Why? Because it was probably the feds.
48:04It probably wasn't. In fact, there's so
48:09little evidence that it was anybody
48:11other than Tyler Robinson that the idea
48:14that there is reasonable doubt is it's a
48:19struggle session to figure out what it
48:22might be. And when you say, "Well, well,
48:24like what's your theory?" People are
48:25like, "I don't have to prove shit." I
48:27mean, you don't have to prove anything.
48:31But if you have another theory, it can
48:32be a useful basis for someone to
48:36generate the doubt that they may not
48:38have.
48:41Kyle Writtenhouse didn't have to testify
48:43in his own defense, but he did because
48:45he needed he felt he needed to tell the
48:47jury about how scared he was and round
48:49out his self-defense claim. He was
48:51right.
49:00Lightning Rod 7 says, "That's like
49:01saying that Lee Harvey Oswald acted
49:03alone." I've seen actual evidence that
49:07leads to the idea that Lee Harvey Oswald
49:09didn't act alone. Did he act alone? I
49:12don't know. I don't care.
49:16But I've seen evidence that suggests
49:19that maybe he didn't. You know what I
49:21haven't seen in this case?
49:24Any evidence
49:27that anything other than Tyler Robinson
49:31killed Charlie Kurt.
49:40I've seen people say, "I have
49:41questions." Cool.
49:44Yeah. I have I have questions about how
49:46the Constitution came to be, but I still
49:48believe it happened.
49:50Uh, Dark Lux, Dra Luxa says he's racist
49:54for saying ratchet is essential quality.
49:57Oh shit,
50:02I don't want any of these. Ratchet the
50:04German Shepherd. No, I'm just kidding.
50:05Hey Nick, it's Uncle Rico. Look, if
50:08Candace KEEPS POPPING OUT KIDS, ONE OF
50:11them is statistically guaranteed to be
50:14President Kamacho.
50:16>> That's a good point. WHY COME Y'ALL
50:18WHITE BREAD ASS LAWYER GOT TO RIP ON THE
50:21DUMB A woman who can't listen to nothing
50:23and don't know nothing instead of the
50:26white boy who asking her dumb ass to
50:28explain herself.
50:30It's just how it goes. Okay, so quick
50:33summary because I kind of got
50:34sidetracked by the chat who's funny.
50:38Quick summary recap of of where we are
50:42on these text messages. Candace Owens
50:45can't understand that Tyler Robinson
50:47changes his mind. In the same way, we
50:49saw this happen yesterday when Andrew
50:52Wilson was asked by an anonymous person
50:55on Twitter like, "What's your
50:57overwhelming evidence?" He's like,
50:58"Well, here's this and this and this."
51:00Candace Owens like that's only five
51:02things. And he's like, "Well, it wasn't
51:04an exhaustive list." She's like, "Isn't
51:06that your tweet?" Yeah, but like there's
51:10more.
51:12And again, he's he's sitting there
51:14trying to defend this as if he needs to
51:17defend the idea that in the past he sent
51:20a tweet that was based on some
51:22information and now he sent it he has a
51:25different set. He has a more robust set
51:27of information. He may have more things
51:29that he believes.
51:31She can't figure that out. to her. It's
51:34impossible
51:36that those two things happened at
51:38different times under different
51:39circumstances and that someone could
51:41possibly change their mind.
51:45I'm And again, I am claiming to be
51:52100% seriously a licensed therapist
51:56psychologist who provides specific care
51:59to Candace Owens.
52:01I am that
52:04and I'm going to violate all the
52:05privilege right now and say that
52:10she's
52:12incapable
52:14incapable of the concept of obtaining
52:18new information and changing a position.
52:20She doesn't understand it and she lives
52:23literally moment to moment in a
52:25psychological condition called she's
52:28dumb.
52:30I've met people like this. I've talked
52:33about them. I didn't realize that this
52:36is a thing that existed until you and
52:39and you can't understand it until you
52:42experience it. That a person will say
52:46one thing and say the opposite thing
52:49with 100% sincerity in the next moment
52:53and not know that. They won't be
52:56cognizant or conscious of the fact that
53:00they changed their mind because they
53:02didn't. Their mind doesn't change.
53:06Their mind exists in a series of
53:10photographs.
53:12Those photographs are unrelated by time.
53:17Literally what the photograph is now is
53:21what their mind is. And their mind will
53:24always be. We've always been at war with
53:26East Asia, right? Like that's an
53:29aspirational thing. Uh in in what book
53:34was that? The uh
53:38why can't I think of that book?
53:42You know what it is? It doesn't matter.
53:44I can't think of the book title right
53:45now. But
53:47uh 1984, thank you. There's an
53:49aspirational concept of the kami
53:52government in 1984 was existing
53:55literally in this moment and no other
53:58moments. There is no past. There is no
53:59future. But when you meet someone who
54:02lives like this, they can change
54:06positions because they don't change
54:07their mind. They'll change positions in
54:09the same sentence.
54:12In the same sentence,
54:14Candace Owens doesn't change her mind.
54:17Her mind is always made up on the thing
54:21it's made up on now. And I bet if she
54:24thinks back, she'll remember what she
54:27feels now, not what she felt then.
54:32She does not know. She cannot fathom
54:35that Andrew Wilson tweeted something
54:37different in the past.
54:40She can't. It's a It's a foreign concept
54:42to her. I'm not And I'm not trying to be
54:45insulting.
54:49Oh, all right. Dabbling Dennis says,
54:52"Why were you and your wife raided and
54:54thrown in jail?" Probably because I had
54:55a bunch of cocaine, you weirdo.
54:59Heather Whitaker says, "Dabbling Dennis
55:00is back. We need to do another goal for
55:02super chats to kick." Well, we'll see.
55:04We'll see. I'm going to give him a
55:06minute. We'll give him a minute. Okay,
55:08back to this,
55:09>> too. That's never been my problem. My
55:12problem is the claims which are external
55:14to that.
55:15>> Okay. Um,
55:17I not sure I really care if you have a
55:20problem with what I think in my own
55:22spare time. I don't I don't understand
55:23this like lecture that you just gave.
55:25Um, but beyond that, what I am saying is
55:26that the state is allowed to use this is
55:29what my This is what my problem is. You
55:30guys are not Yeah. You guys
55:33>> Okay.
55:36All right.
55:38>> Did you hear what just happened? Did you
55:41hear what just happened?
55:48listen to this.
55:52>> Fine. I think it's fine. There's people
55:53who are convinced, too. That's never
55:56been my problem. My problem is the
55:57claims which are external to that.
55:59>> Okay. Um
56:02I not sure I really care if you have a
56:04problem with what I think in my own
56:06spare time. I don't I don't
56:08>> You do. And you know how we know that
56:10you have a problem with what uh with
56:15caring about what he thinks or no with
56:18him caring about what you think in your
56:20spare time. You just told us that you
56:24did right before his lecture. She
56:26doesn't remember. She does not remember
56:30saying why do you have a problem with
56:34people believing that? And then Andrew
56:37Wilson
56:39goes goes into this speech about how I'm
56:41the last guy to have a problem with it.
56:43I don't have a problem with it. People
56:46can do this. They can do that. I believe
56:48these things. I don't have a problem.
56:50She's like, "Why do you have a I don't
56:52even know if I care why you have a
56:53problem. You're the one who said he had
56:56the that you cared. You're the one who
56:58SET THAT UP." SHE DOESN'T REMEMBER.
57:03She does not remember making that claim
57:07five minutes before.
57:10She has no idea. I I don't Why would you
57:14even bring this up? Look at how confused
57:16she is. This chick is confused by bubble
57:19gum.
57:23>> I don't understand this like lecture
57:25that you just gave. Um but beyond that,
57:26what I am saying is that the state is
57:28allowed to use this is what my This is
57:30what my problem is. You guys are not
57:31like Yeah, you guys think while it's
57:33illegal. You actually you can you are
57:35allowed to do that. So, um but anyway,
57:37>> he just spent that lecture that you
57:40couldn't understand that you just had to
57:42admit that you can understand. That
57:44entire lecture was telling you he
57:46doesn't have a problem with people
57:48thinking things like that. He's like, I
57:50know conspiracy exists. I got it. I I
57:54believe it. I don't have a problem with
57:55people thinking that.
57:57>> Going back going back to you saying I
57:58wouldn't have a problem. I think I just
58:00demonstrated pretty thoroughly that what
58:03you claim that you have a problem with
58:05is exactly what the state is engaged in
58:06at this stage. So it doesn't make it
58:08just doesn't make sense.
58:09>> What's that?
58:09>> That's not the case. In fact,
58:11>> so if people look and they say I'm
58:13looking at the gun and I see and I'm
58:15inferring this and someone else says I'm
58:16looking at
58:20>> I'm looking at the gun and I'm inferring
58:22this. Someone else is looking at the gun
58:23and they're inferring that. Well, what
58:24is the this and what is the that? And
58:26can those things be an inference from
58:29looking at a gun? Maybe, maybe not.
58:32Candace doesn't know what an inference
58:34is.
58:34>> At the gun evidence, and I'm inferring
58:36that they're both doing the exact same
58:38thing.
58:39>> These are not the same thing. If I look
58:42at a cake and I infer that eating the
58:46cake will taste good and you look at
58:49that cake and you say JFK was fucking
58:53children,
58:57you're going to have to explain to me
58:59how that cake became a crystal ball to a
59:02Kennedy past.
59:04That's not an inference.
59:07Oh, look at that's a beautiful bunt
59:09cake. Just like the beautiful children
59:12JFK was having sex with. What are we
59:15talking about? She doesn't get it. She
59:18does not know that those two things are
59:21not the same. And I'm not joking. I'm
59:24actually mad. I'm fucking angry. She
59:28does not see those as different.
59:35>> I want to do it for the state. That's
59:36propositionally false. Explain exactly
59:39how
59:40>> it is the case that every proposition is
59:42going to have a true or false
59:45conclusion. Period. That's just logic,
59:47right? It's the law of excluded middle.
59:49All propositions are going to be true or
59:52they're going to be false. When we get
59:54into when we're making inferences, we're
59:55making
59:59I do this sometimes, but it's usually in
1:00:01written form like on Twitter or
1:00:03whatever. But my god, the debate
1:00:07explainer,
1:00:09the debate explainer is an insufferably
1:00:13baggedy position. No one wants to hear
1:00:16this. Nobody wants to hear the debate
1:00:19explainer. Don't do it. Please, for the
1:00:22love of God, never do this. Nobody wants
1:00:25to hear this. Like, let me tell you
1:00:27about how propositions work. All right?
1:00:30It's going to be propositionally true or
1:00:32false. Shut up. You're right. Okay,
1:00:35cool. Nobody wants to listen to that.
1:00:42Jim Satala has raided the stream.
1:00:46Welcome to the Jim Satala. Jim tells you
1:00:50Rumble and hopefully YouTube as well. I
1:00:53don't know. Yeah. Well, I see the I see
1:00:55the Rumble one.
1:00:59Fractal machine. Wait, we got a we got a
1:01:01couple chats here.
1:01:03Dabbling Dennis is why did the police
1:01:05take custody of your five kids? The
1:01:07police didn't take custody of my five
1:01:08kids. Dying 90s kid sent uh trophy cake.
1:01:13Thank you.
1:01:15Winston Smith 2902 says it's like Kelly
1:01:18Bundy.
1:01:22Uh
1:01:25I me
1:01:27I don't know. I don't know what that is.
1:01:29Meaked me.
1:01:31Something negative occurring in
1:01:32someone's life in the past has no
1:01:34correlation to a current opinion or
1:01:36judgment of someone's current character.
1:01:38W Ricada fans written house trial. Screw
1:01:40the haters.
1:01:42I will screw the haters. They'll come
1:01:45not haters.
1:01:48Yeah, Jim tells you I know it was on
1:01:50both. Thanks, brother. Welcome. Welcome.
1:01:52Fractal machine says she thinks her mere
1:01:54physical incredility, personal
1:01:56incredility about the veracity of the
1:01:58evidence is by itself a rational basis
1:02:00to infer it's a scop regardless of
1:02:01facts. Yeah. Yeah. Because she doesn't
1:02:03understand what an inference is. She's
1:02:06like, I have questions. Therefore,
1:02:08government conspiracy. Wait, hold on.
1:02:12There's some steps in between. There's
1:02:14some steps in between. I got hired at
1:02:16Target. I'm CEO. Wait. Whoa. you got
1:02:20there's a career path for you
1:02:22>> is based on on propositions. We can make
1:02:25we can actually come to true conclusions
1:02:27with false uh premises inside of a
1:02:30proposition. In fact, what we're talking
1:02:31about here is not whether or not you
1:02:34feel that you're convinced by this
1:02:36evidence,
1:02:36>> but you felt like you were convinced,
1:02:37>> right? Sure. But here's the thing. When
1:02:39you ask me my reason, Andrew, why are
1:02:41you convinced by this? I can give you my
1:02:43reasons why I'm convinced by it. Why it
1:02:44seems reasonable and rational to me to
1:02:46be convinced. You could even say, "But
1:02:49Andrew, I'm just not convinced by it."
1:02:51If that was the limitation of your
1:02:52claims, we wouldn't even be having this
1:02:54conversation. That's why I wanted to
1:02:56have the conversation, in fact, was so
1:02:59that we could move into your actual
1:03:02claims that you've made, which transcend
1:03:04the idea of I'm just asking questions.
1:03:06>> Before we get into that, your team has
1:03:08one.
1:03:08>> Shut the fuck up, you loser. God,
1:03:11somebody just throw him off a boat. Why
1:03:14is he there? He unnecessary. Before we
1:03:18get into that, he just got to the meat
1:03:21of what's important about this
1:03:23discussion. What like to whatever extent
1:03:26there is something important Candace and
1:03:28Ian Carol and Baron Coleman, these
1:03:30fucking losers have hidden from making a
1:03:33claim for months. I'm just asking
1:03:36questions. But they they of course they
1:03:39of course
1:03:42demand the the listener to follow the
1:03:45claim that they're not making. They
1:03:48can't be pinned down because they never
1:03:49make a claim. Everybody knows this
1:03:51rhetorical tactic. You learn it when
1:03:54you're a child. Like I'm not saying
1:03:57this. Like I'm not saying
1:04:01yes you are. We know. We got it. Just
1:04:04say it. He wants to pin her into this so
1:04:08that she says something. Now, of course,
1:04:11this has been interpreted as a TPUSA
1:04:15conspiracy to lock her into a defamation
1:04:18trap because these people are fucking
1:04:21dumb. That's it's only a defamation trap
1:04:25if it's false. And you know it's false
1:04:28because all these people are public
1:04:30figures. So, you have to knowingly
1:04:31provide a false statement that damages
1:04:33them. It's not a defamation trap.
1:04:35lock down a position. Bitch,
1:04:40>> thing they want to show before you go
1:04:41into that. So, if you want to pull that
1:04:43up, this is the prosecution filing
1:04:45showing defense had full discovery by
1:04:49April 1st.
1:04:50>> They did not. That's not true.
1:04:51>> They did. The defense didn't see it. You
1:04:56dummy. The defense raised this to the
1:05:00court. The court looks at the prosecutor
1:05:02says, "Is this true?" prosecutor says,
1:05:04"No, although the defense is probably
1:05:07not being dishonest here. We sent it in
1:05:11this email and they probably missed it.
1:05:14They probably missed it." So, they can
1:05:17check and if if we haven't sent it for
1:05:19some reason, if it got overlooked, we
1:05:21will, but we sent it on in this email on
1:05:26this date. And she's like, "That's not
1:05:28true." Now, they they got full discovery
1:05:32for the probable cause hearing because
1:05:34they complained about how much discovery
1:05:36there was in the case. And the the
1:05:38prosecutor said, "We we'll do the
1:05:40probable cause stuff and we'll send the
1:05:42rest after. If if they're having trouble
1:05:44keeping up with the volume, we can help
1:05:46manage that volume."
1:05:48The prosecution has been exceedingly
1:05:52differential.
1:05:54Exceedingly differential.
1:05:56Dabbling Dennis says, "Show us your
1:05:58Kayla's hideous mug shot." I'm unaware
1:06:00of that existing. He also says, "Court
1:06:02docks prove police took custody of your
1:06:04five kids." Nope. The police never had
1:06:06custody of my five kids.
1:06:10Get your facts right. Ask better
1:06:12questions. Logan, Liberty, West Coast
1:06:15says, "You're keeping me sane." Them
1:06:17pretending Andrew not listing the seven
1:06:19charges as anything other than shifting
1:06:20goalpost is wild. states evidence is
1:06:22unreliable but speculative hole poking
1:06:24and questions are reliable evidence.
1:06:29Lurch linger gifted a membership.
1:06:32Thank you. Logan Liberty West Coast says
1:06:35i.e. their standards of evidence are
1:06:37amorphous and convenient for
1:06:39perpetuating more conspiracy theories.
1:06:41Grifting or retorted lol
1:06:46or I don't know. Retro is here. Sent an
1:06:49uncle alert. Thank you. Thank you.
1:06:53>> Here we go.
1:06:54>> Wait a second.
1:06:54>> Yeah.
1:06:55>> To date, the state's prosecutors have
1:06:57disclosed all evidence that is presently
1:07:00and reasonably available to them as
1:07:02required under rule 16 Utah R criminal.
1:07:04To be more precise as of April 1st.
1:07:07>> Yeah, that was that was not that was not
1:07:09100%. That's why that they're caging
1:07:10that by saying what's reasonable.
1:07:12>> That they're not required to disclose
1:07:16everything yet. And the defense asked
1:07:19them not to.
1:07:21Oh, she's so dumb. She's so dumb. She's
1:07:23so fucking dumb. It's impossible
1:07:28to sit through anything involving her
1:07:30without just going, "She's so fucking
1:07:31dumb." DX Mania, someone who is not
1:07:34dumb, who is exceedingly generous, has
1:07:37gifted five beautiful members to the to
1:07:39the chat chat. Get your members started
1:07:43with a gift from DXmania. Make sure you
1:07:45say thank you for that wonderfully
1:07:48generous gift. Retro is here since
1:07:51jamming 200 jewels. All right, we
1:07:54jamming.
1:07:55>> There was I mean there was entire and we
1:07:57can pull this up like we should now play
1:07:59the Kathy Nester clip because that
1:08:00that's from there. So and they were
1:08:01basically saying you don't need it at
1:08:03this stage. Meaning it's reason it's not
1:08:05reasonable that you're asking for this
1:08:07when we're going into
1:08:12>> that's not what they said.
1:08:15They said, "We will provide discovery
1:08:18for everything we intend to raise
1:08:22at the preliminary hearing and
1:08:25everything else that we are required to
1:08:27disclose at this point." That was what
1:08:30they said and that's what they did.
1:08:33There is other evidence that isn't I
1:08:36don't think the state even had it at the
1:08:38time that they wrote that.
1:08:41There's other evidence and you can
1:08:43expect other evidence may arise during
1:08:46the the case, but it's not coming in at
1:08:49the preliminary hearing and they don't
1:08:51want to.
1:08:53If they just deliver everything, they
1:08:55can be accused of overloading the
1:08:58defense with
1:09:00irrelevant,
1:09:02extraneous evidence that won't be
1:09:03discussed at the preliminary hearing.
1:09:06So, they they talked about all of this
1:09:09in court.
1:09:11at a hearing. They talked about this in
1:09:14motion practice. They resolved this by
1:09:17emails. They got this taken care of.
1:09:20This isn't true. It is.
1:09:24I'm sorry. Like, you're She's just
1:09:26wrong. Uh, we the Rabbel says, "Candice
1:09:30has a 4.0 IQ. Ryan the Scar uh sent a
1:09:35coin. Corn Pop sent a couple servings of
1:09:38chili. Thank you very much. Thank you
1:09:41very much.
1:09:43>> A hearing that's just going to be based
1:09:45on hearsay and stuff of things of that
1:09:47nature. But of course, by the time a
1:09:48trial comes, you're going to get all the
1:09:49disc.
1:09:54>> No one says Lance Twigs wasn't involved.
1:09:57What are we talking about? Why Why do
1:09:59you keep making these weird assertions?
1:10:01Andrew doesn't say Lance Twigs wasn't
1:10:03involved. Nobody says that. Lance Twigs
1:10:06has use immunity that prevents him from
1:10:09getting charged um you know for the
1:10:12murder if he provides you know the the
1:10:16requested knowing testimony, right? Like
1:10:18that's that's it. if he provides
1:10:21something else or if he confesses like
1:10:24if Lance Twigs were to confess the
1:10:25murder or they found out he he murdered
1:10:27Charlie Kirk that use immunity does not
1:10:31protect him from other evidence that
1:10:34Lance Twigs murdered Charlie Kirk.
1:10:38It doesn't. It's not how use immunity
1:10:41works. Use immunity gives him immunity
1:10:44on a specific limited subject. He cannot
1:10:47be implicated in the murder of Charlie
1:10:51Kirk because of his uh because of his
1:10:56disclosure of these text messages, for
1:10:58example, his authentication of those and
1:11:00his testimony around them. So long as it
1:11:03is truthful,
1:11:05that's it. It's really simple. It
1:11:07doesn't protect him from them going, "Oh
1:11:09my gosh, we found his pubic hair in
1:11:11Charlie's mouth and Charlie choked on
1:11:12it."
1:11:13Yeah, if they find that that's not use
1:11:18immunity. DX Mania says Candace Owen's
1:11:21parents have to be cousins or something,
1:11:23right? Only explanation for this. Her
1:11:25parents are actually Ilhan, Omar, and
1:11:27her brother.
1:11:28>> The show cause
1:11:29>> Yes. So that's what they're saying.
1:11:30>> Yeah, I understand. Okay, so that's
1:11:31>> and I'm even and I'm even fine with it.
1:11:33We we all we all know. And then by the
1:11:35way, just now that the hearing is over
1:11:37and you can also
1:11:38>> just real quick, Lady Tammy says, "In my
1:11:40opinion, use immunity insinuates that
1:11:41Twigs was involved in some way." We know
1:11:43Twigs was involved in some way, at least
1:11:46as an accessory after the fact. He
1:11:48burned the note that Tyler asked him to
1:11:50burn. Then he testified about the note.
1:11:52I He may have taken a picture of it. He
1:11:54may have deleted a message or two. We
1:11:56don't know. We know that he was at least
1:11:59participatory in um as an accessory
1:12:03after the fact and maybe even some
1:12:04obstruction of justice. Yeah, of course
1:12:06he was. Of course he was involved.
1:12:10He's talking to Tyler about a murder and
1:12:12he didn't call the cops. Yeah, you got a
1:12:16strong chance of an accessory charge uh
1:12:19in some way or conspiracy to do
1:12:21something. And we know he took overt
1:12:23acts in in furtherance of the existing
1:12:25conspiracy of burn the note.
1:12:30So yeah of course of course he was
1:12:32involved.
1:12:34That's why they gave him the immunity.
1:12:36They're like we don't really care about
1:12:37that stuff though. We care about the guy
1:12:38who murdered Charlie Kirk. Now Lance
1:12:40Twigs was co-equally responsible. He
1:12:43doesn't have immunity on that. Hih high
1:12:46sent some jewels twice. Thank you. Too
1:12:49high high.
1:12:52Careful. When you get high high, they
1:12:53arrest you.
1:12:56Bazing.
1:13:02>> All right, here we go. Um, back to this.
1:13:04>> So, fact check this. They now at the at
1:13:07the end of the preliminary hearing
1:13:08dropped like an insane amount of the
1:13:11discovery stuff they gave to them like
1:13:12the week after. You guys can give me the
1:13:14exact amount. I don't want to say
1:13:15because I don't know my uh
1:13:19Ah,
1:13:22listen to what she just said.
1:13:25The week after the preliminary hearing
1:13:28is over, they just dropped an insane
1:13:30amount of discovery on them. Yeah. All
1:13:32of the trial stuff that they were
1:13:36holding back because the defense said it
1:13:40was too much for them to go through in
1:13:43the time frame that they had for the
1:13:44preliminary hearing. They
1:13:48asked for this.
1:13:59Um I don't remember how much it was. It
1:14:01was an absurd amount of stuff that they
1:14:02gave to them right after the premier
1:14:03hearing that they had been asking for
1:14:04because that was one of the things that
1:14:05I kept saying on my show is watching
1:14:08>> preliminary of the preliminary. Why not
1:14:10just give them the stuff now so they can
1:14:12engage in these arguments is I feel like
1:14:13you it's like I want to hear what they
1:14:14have to say about the text messages. Why
1:14:15why can't you just give them what
1:14:17they're asking for so that they can
1:14:18actually engage you? And uh
1:14:20>> they did they asked them not to
1:14:27>> it didn't happen. So but the judge ruled
1:14:31that it wasn't necessary at this stage
1:14:33and that was the whole point of that uh
1:14:35>> because to the preliminary. Yeah.
1:14:37>> Yeah. Would you like to play the Kathy
1:14:38video?
1:14:39>> Uh well he's saying he's not disagreeing
1:14:40so I don't think we need to.
1:14:41>> Yeah. There's no disagreement that that
1:14:43she said that. So the Yeah. So I guess
1:14:47the disagreements now would move into
1:14:49the evidences that you have stated on
1:14:52the record which transcend elements of
1:14:55reason.
1:14:55>> Why are we having
1:14:58transcendental conversation now? Because
1:15:00I mean
1:15:01>> because they're all related.
1:15:02>> What is she?
1:15:08>> She doesn't know the definition of that
1:15:10word.
1:15:13She doesn't know the definition of this
1:15:15word.
1:15:19Christopher Schaefer send some jewels.
1:15:21Thank you very much.
1:15:27>> Your entire thing was about looking at
1:15:30the evidence, which never made sense to
1:15:32me again because all of the evidence
1:15:33that you felt to be overwhelming was
1:15:35hearsay. That was bizarre to You told me
1:15:36that I could take as much time as I
1:15:38wanted to question. No, but I'm just
1:15:40asking you just to lay the groundwork of
1:15:41what you're saying is probably decide
1:15:44that it trips into something else and I
1:15:46do still want to hold you for going
1:15:47through because we've discussed the gun.
1:15:49We've discussed your u you can hold me
1:15:50to those things but I would like to get
1:15:52into the things we should discuss the
1:15:53screwdriver as well.
1:15:54>> So, and I'll explain exactly what the
1:15:55groundwork is when you make claims which
1:15:57pass the idea of I'm just asking
1:15:59questions because the state's evidence
1:16:01is not convincing. I think you have to
1:16:03answer for those claims because they are
1:16:04in regards to this case. You're saying I
1:16:07have a claim. It is in regards to the
1:16:09assassination of Charlie Kirk, which is
1:16:10what we're talking about. Not just the
1:16:12case of Charlie Kirk, his assassination.
1:16:14You should have to answer for the claims
1:16:16that you've made in regards to the
1:16:18assassination itself. You should. Yeah.
1:16:21Agreed. So, if that's the case, then I
1:16:24would I would like to finally dive into
1:16:26some of that evidence and dive into it.
1:16:28Well, just to be clear, and I'm happy to
1:16:30to have you talk about, like I said
1:16:32publicly, you want to engage in some
1:16:34conspiracies, but I said, I want to make
1:16:35sure that we get to the substance of our
1:16:36debate. The substance of our debate is
1:16:38this is the major is me demonstrating
1:16:40that all of the quote unquote evidence
1:16:42that you feel that you have, which
1:16:44demonstrates that Tyler Robinson, I mean
1:16:47that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk,
1:16:48>> you don't find
1:16:49>> it's it's crazy. evidence that you claim
1:16:53you have. It's the evidence that's been
1:16:55submitted to the court,
1:16:57which is significant.
1:17:00It's a significant amount of evidence.
1:17:08>> Convincing again.
1:17:09>> It's well, it's been invalidated by the
1:17:10by the testimony that we saw. And in
1:17:12your answer for when I
1:17:13>> What is she talking about? It's been
1:17:15invalidated. Where
1:17:17where has it been in by the testimony
1:17:19that we saw? What do you even mean? Do
1:17:21you know? You don't know. What are you
1:17:24talking about? It's been invalidated.
1:17:27>> Explain to you that he had the most
1:17:28degraded prince was I don't know. Okay.
1:17:30Well,
1:17:31>> it's not Prince. It's DNA and
1:17:34degradation is nothing like what she
1:17:37thinks. I can't I can't I'm going to
1:17:41I'm gonna pop if I have to go through
1:17:43this again.
1:17:44>> There. Then there lies my ability to
1:17:47process that. It's just fine for you to
1:17:50not
1:17:51>> be convinced up to this point. All of
1:17:53your viewers, everybody watching,
1:17:56>> nobody's getting
1:17:58>> Nobody's getting a dispute that if
1:18:01>> because unlike you, they're in control
1:18:03of their eating.
1:18:05>> You fat Australian piece of shit.
1:18:10All your claims ever were were just up
1:18:12to now. The evidence that the state's
1:18:14given, I'm just kind of not convinced.
1:18:17That is not what's been happening.
1:18:18What's actually been happening is that
1:18:20you've made tons of claims uh in regards
1:18:24to this case and in regards to the Kirk
1:18:26assassination which are far above and
1:18:28beyond I just doubt the state's theory.
1:18:32>> Okay. Yeah. I mean sure I do the state's
1:18:35theory.
1:18:36>> He said you doubt the state's theory.
1:18:38You dumb dumb thing. He knows you doubt
1:18:42the state's theory. That's your that's
1:18:44the only thing that matters about you
1:18:45these days. He's saying you're going
1:18:48beyond that as well and making
1:18:51affirmative claims about the state being
1:18:55involved.
1:18:57Not just I doubt their theory, but also
1:18:59they murdered him. That's your claim.
1:19:02Your entire claim is that Tyler Robinson
1:19:04is a pathy for the federal government
1:19:07conspiracy to kill Charlie Kirk. That's
1:19:10a bold statement with ZERO EVIDENCE.
1:19:15I also am welcome to
1:19:17>> say what I think you know if you want to
1:19:19move into opinions if you want to talk
1:19:21about Erica Kirk if you want to talk
1:19:22about Turning Point USA
1:19:23>> like to talk about all
1:19:24>> and get into it I'm totally happy to do
1:19:26that but I just want to say that like I
1:19:28do not feel
1:19:29>> cuz I've said what's important to me is
1:19:30that we exhaust this topic
1:19:33>> first of our actual debate claims I do
1:19:35not feel that you sufficiently have
1:19:37argued that the evidence is
1:19:39overwhelming.
1:19:40question for you, but I am sorry you
1:19:42feel that way.
1:19:43>> Candace, one question. What what
1:19:44evidence do you need to see for you you
1:19:47to say Tyler Robinson killed Charlie
1:19:49Kirk?
1:19:49>> That's a great question. Um, so I
1:19:51actually expected in this preliminary
1:19:53hearing actually the almost the in
1:19:56inverse of what he was saying is true,
1:19:58right? So the this is now the time the
1:20:00state is putting on their evidence.
1:20:01That's the purpose of this hearing,
1:20:03right? The state is using hearsay, but
1:20:04they're also putting on their evidence.
1:20:10You said that all of it was hearsay.
1:20:14You said that all of it was hearsay and
1:20:18that there none of it was admissible at
1:20:21trial. Now you're saying because you
1:20:23exist moment to moment as an
1:20:26individually separate being from the
1:20:28Candace the moment before. Now you're
1:20:31saying that the state actually will
1:20:35actually
1:20:39fucking
1:20:41kill me.
1:20:43Just kill me off right now.
1:20:51Uh we the Rabbel says, "Is it true that
1:20:53avocado tastes like clean wieners? Never
1:20:55tasted one."
1:20:57Uh, dabbling Dennis says, "Does Andrew
1:21:00know your bride eats snizz?
1:21:03Do you?"
1:21:06>> So, I was just expecting some sort of a
1:21:08slam dunk. Like, we got him on camera
1:21:09taking the shot. At least we have
1:21:12>> You have him on camera taking the shot.
1:21:15She's like, "You know what convinced me
1:21:17is if they had him on camera taking the
1:21:19shot?" They do. They have that. They
1:21:22played it. You denied it. They did it.
1:21:25And you said it didn't h you weren't
1:21:27there but you said it didn't happen
1:21:29because if it happened you're fucked.
1:21:32You know it. They have that video and
1:21:35showed it.
1:21:40Have them clear on camera. You're
1:21:41telling me this guy drove
1:21:42>> Oh, now it's not clear on camera.
1:21:46This This dummy has never watched video
1:21:50used to convict someone in a murder
1:21:52trial. It's never clear. It's always
1:21:56fucking grainy. The uh closed circuit
1:22:00television footage still recorded to VHS
1:22:03and laser disc.
1:22:05God damn it.
1:22:07>> Hours all around. Like we can definitely
1:22:08show you a picture that it's going to be
1:22:10beyond a reasonable doubt before we even
1:22:12get to the trial people are going to see
1:22:13and go, "Oh crap." Like it was really
1:22:14Tyler Robinson. Does she know that
1:22:16people have been convicted for all of uh
1:22:20all of the recorded history of the
1:22:22courts, people have been convicted for
1:22:23murder without video? Like it's never on
1:22:26video. Most of the time it's not on
1:22:28video. It's becoming more and more
1:22:30prevalent because everybody's got video
1:22:31everywhere and World Star exists. But
1:22:34like generally speaking, the
1:22:36overwhelming majority of murders that
1:22:39have happened in all of human history
1:22:40are not even on photograph.
1:22:43Um, I was expecting to at least see
1:22:46evidence that because I had reported
1:22:48early on that uh the source was saying
1:22:51that Tyler did not step foot on campus
1:22:54that day. It is my perspective that he
1:22:56had something to do with something. I I
1:22:57do believe he was putting like disposing
1:22:59clothes at at this stage at this phase.
1:23:01I do believe he was disposing clothes.
1:23:03He was involved somehow. Um I I find
1:23:05Lance to be more uh suspicious if I'm
1:23:08being honest with you.
1:23:09>> Lance has an immunity agreement. They're
1:23:11not going to go into the suspicious
1:23:12nature of Lance until the defense raises
1:23:15it later to try and draw reasonable
1:23:18doubt by suggesting maybe Lance in his
1:23:20cool immunity. Like they're going to
1:23:22question about the immunity agreement.
1:23:23But you know what? The defense knows
1:23:25that Lance didn't do it. The defense
1:23:27knows Tyler did it, you dummy.
1:23:30Why do you think the defense is acting
1:23:32the way they're acting?
1:23:35>> Uh and also like I said, the use
1:23:37immunity that was given to Lance by the
1:23:39feds. The fact that the feds didn't ask
1:23:41him any questions. The fact that I spoke
1:23:42with Lance Twigs's family and they were
1:23:44like,
1:23:44>> "Who cares if you talk to his family?"
1:23:48The motherfucker has use immunity on a
1:23:51specific set of testimony that he's
1:23:53going to give. I know what use immunity
1:23:56is. I had a use immunity agreement at
1:23:59one point. I know exactly how it works.
1:24:02She doesn't.
1:24:05It's very weird that the feds are not
1:24:08>> It's not weird because the feds know
1:24:10that Lance didn't pull the trigger on
1:24:13Charlie Kirk. And the feds also know
1:24:15that Lance didn't help Tyler plan it
1:24:19just because he may have been an
1:24:20accessory after the fact because he's
1:24:23helping his gay boyfriend like do
1:24:25something because you don't know how
1:24:27you're going to react when your
1:24:29significant other calls you and says, "I
1:24:31just killed a major political figure.
1:24:33It's all over the news. Are you watching
1:24:35my grandpa's rightful? Like, you don't
1:24:37know what to do. And he's like, can you
1:24:39burn that note that's under my desk and
1:24:40also clear my Pornhub history? He's
1:24:44like, fuck. He's deleting evidence and
1:24:46doing stuff. Yeah, that doesn't mean he
1:24:49had any hand in killing Charlie Kirk,
1:24:51but they can make his life fucking hell.
1:24:55Or they can give him use immunity so he
1:24:58can comfortably and with cander talk
1:25:02about the actual perpetrator who's Tyler
1:25:04Robinson. That's not weird. This is
1:25:08normal.
1:25:10This is normal. This is a normal process
1:25:14in murder cases that have lowlevel
1:25:18accessories that have information that
1:25:21the state wants. But disclosing that
1:25:23information could put the low-level
1:25:25accessories at risk of a couple years of
1:25:27prison. Lance would not be going away
1:25:30for life. But Lance is a young man who
1:25:34probably doesn't want to, you know,
1:25:37probably doesn't want to play Let me
1:25:38touch your tonsils from the back, right?
1:25:41He doesn't want to do that for the next
1:25:43six years.
1:25:50This process is not strange.
1:25:55People get immunity. people get immunity
1:25:57from much worse stuff than Lance would
1:26:00be accused of. But he still doesn't want
1:26:02to go to, you know, a state of Utah
1:26:05prison and have to fight about it and
1:26:08spend uh, you know, threearters of
1:26:10million dollars defending himself in a
1:26:12highprofile criminal defense case, have
1:26:14his entire life and reputation ruined by
1:26:16the conviction for the ne for the
1:26:18foreseeable future. Why would he want to
1:26:20do that? He could get use immunity,
1:26:22testify the stuff that Tyler Robinson
1:26:24already told him. Tyler turned himself
1:26:26in. He and Tyler Tyler may not confess
1:26:31and uh he may not he may not plead
1:26:33guilty. I mean, Tyler Robinson knows how
1:26:36this trial is going to end up. He's just
1:26:38hoping to have a chance of he's hoping
1:26:40to live and then have a chance at parole
1:26:42when he's 60. Asking him more questions.
1:26:44He's exactly the person um that I would
1:26:47imagine to be involved in some stuff.
1:26:49Allegedly. I'll say allegedly. Uh but uh
1:26:52when we got to the preliminary hearing,
1:26:54there was no there was not a single
1:26:55piece of evidence that I felt was slam
1:26:57dunk. I was waiting for that. A photo. I
1:26:59mean, anything would have made me go,
1:27:00"All right, I think this this
1:27:02>> Listen to her. Listen to the fucking
1:27:04lies spill out. She doesn't know that
1:27:05they're lies, so they're not technically
1:27:07lies. Listen to the untruths just spill
1:27:10out. A photo, anything,
1:27:15sweetheart." They produced way more than
1:27:18anything. They produced a lot of
1:27:20anythings. They produced some pretty big
1:27:23somethings. They have significant
1:27:25amounts of video. They have an entire
1:27:28narrative of this guy's day
1:27:31that they can corroborate with video
1:27:34evidence with no other existing
1:27:39explanation for it. You can say it's not
1:27:42Tyler Robinson on the roof all you want.
1:27:44You don't have to believe it. But what
1:27:46is your reasoning behind it? If it's
1:27:49like I don't trust the cops, that's not
1:27:51reasonable belief in the legal sense.
1:27:54You can do it. It's fine. You can that
1:27:57can be your reason. That can be your
1:27:59basis, but that's not what they're
1:28:01talking about with reasonable doubt.
1:28:05What do you think happened otherwise?
1:28:13if they have video following all the
1:28:15like anybody around the campus in these
1:28:18chains of video they can follow Tyler
1:28:20follow Tyler Robinson from parking to
1:28:21the roof to down to the woods right we
1:28:24know that that they did they did that if
1:28:27you say it's not Tyler Robinson then
1:28:29there's someone else in the stairwell
1:28:31going up to the roof of the Losi
1:28:33building right
1:28:37somewhere
1:28:38there should be video of someone else
1:28:41doing the same thing and Tyler going
1:28:45somewhere else.
1:28:47We know they have hundreds and hundreds
1:28:49of hours of video. Let's see. 700 hours
1:28:53of video. They have 700 hours of video
1:28:57at least.
1:29:01Somewhere in there should be wherever
1:29:03Tyler Robinson goes.
1:29:07And there should be video of someone
1:29:09else going to where the shooter went the
1:29:13but the not shooter because remember he
1:29:16wasn't shot by a 306. Candace is 100%
1:29:19convinced of that. So that's not the
1:29:22shooter. Instead, that's a trained Navy
1:29:24Seal special forces sniper doing a
1:29:27lateral crawl, dropping into a prone
1:29:30position in a sniper nest, pretending to
1:29:32shoot a rifle that he doesn't have, then
1:29:35running to the end of the building in a
1:29:37tactical fullspeed manner with a rifle
1:29:40that he didn't have a second ago,
1:29:42dropping the rifle to the ground,
1:29:44dropping himself to the ground, picking
1:29:46up the rifle, running and depositing it
1:29:48in the woods, but actually not because
1:29:50the cops deposited it in the woods.
1:29:52Right. This is dumb.
1:29:58This is so stu. When you lay out what
1:30:02must have happened
1:30:04in the alternative to that being Tyler
1:30:07Robinson, it doesn't mean that something
1:30:09else didn't happen. But when you lay out
1:30:10what must have happened, you're like,
1:30:12"Wait, so some ponyy faggot climbs up to
1:30:15the roof, does this weird lateral crawl,
1:30:17lays down on his dick for a little while
1:30:20to the exact moment where Charlie Kirk
1:30:22is shot. Then he gets up, runs away,
1:30:26manifests a rifle in a towel, drops down
1:30:29from a roof, goes to the woods, drops
1:30:31the rifle off, but it's not the rifle.
1:30:33But the cops later go because they know
1:30:35the rifle's supposed to be there, and
1:30:37they fill in that gap. No idea how they
1:30:39got the rifle 250 miles away from where
1:30:42it's supposed to be without anybody
1:30:44noticing. But they deposit it in the
1:30:46right place.
1:30:48That all happens. But it it couldn't
1:30:50possibly have been Tyler Robinson on the
1:30:52roof with a rifle and a candlestick,
1:30:53right? It couldn't possibly be that.
1:30:58It has to be the other scenario. But
1:31:00they don't have a single frame of video
1:31:04that suggests it's anybody else.
1:31:08Not one. And Candace is like, if they
1:31:10just showed me anything, any picture.
1:31:13Well, here's the pictures of him in the
1:31:14stairwell. That's not him.
1:31:17Why not?
1:31:18It's slightly distorted. I like I can't
1:31:20tell that that's him. Yeah, but a bunch
1:31:22of other people can, including his gay
1:31:24boyfriend, who's like, "Sure looks like
1:31:26him.
1:31:27Sure looks like him." It's like, but you
1:31:31know, when you said I was going to get
1:31:32to finger Tyler Robinson, I thought it
1:31:34was going to be different. Honestly, I
1:31:36didn't realize you're going to have me
1:31:38look at video and and say that's him.
1:31:40Like I I was expecting a different
1:31:43outcome
1:31:45and I'm a little disappointed.
1:31:52Unreal. Unreal. I' I'd accept literally
1:31:56anything. No, you wouldn't. We know you
1:31:59wouldn't because you don't. We the rebel
1:32:01says you could take uh you could take a
1:32:04flater to the moon, look at the round
1:32:07earth and they'd claim it was all just
1:32:09an elaborate scop. The earth is round.
1:32:11It's just flat. What are you talking
1:32:13about? You could freaky Friday Candace
1:32:15into Tyler's own knowing guilt and she'd
1:32:17deny it.
1:32:19Someone has to.
1:32:22Connie Lynn Gas says his boyfriend isn't
1:32:25gay. Wait, his boyfriend ain't gay?
1:32:29That's the funniest. That's the best. I
1:32:32don't even want to question it.
1:32:35His boyfriend is not gay.
1:32:41He's not gay when he sucks cock cuz he
1:32:43doesn't really like it that much.
1:32:45We the rabble says, "I think Trump did
1:32:47it." You're still unthinking, you
1:32:49peasant. Diamonds are forever says,
1:32:51"Hope you, Lady Raggets, and family are
1:32:53doing well. Looking good. I'm back from
1:32:55overseas." Long story. Hey, Candace
1:32:57Owens is delusional. Thank you. Thank
1:33:00you. We are doing well.
1:33:03Uh, Dabbling Dennis says, "Does Andrew
1:33:05know cops plus CPS took all of your
1:33:07kids? Cops did not take my kids, you
1:33:08weirdo."
1:33:10Uh, Reagan Vera Stack says, "Been a long
1:33:14time. Take care. No need to read this
1:33:15out." Shit, I should read these in
1:33:18advance.
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1:33:38>> Could be the guy. Uh if they had handed
1:33:41over the discovery on the text messages
1:33:42since that was their big ta, we've got
1:33:44the text messages. That would be the
1:33:46first thing that I would hand over. But
1:33:47actually, who was holding them up? Like
1:33:48I said, it wasn't the prosecution.
1:33:50They're right to say we we were handing
1:33:52things over and we heard the defense
1:33:55argue on behalf of the prosecution
1:33:56saying it's not them and it's not the
1:33:58FBI, it's the FBI that's holding on to
1:34:01things as the FBI took everything. The
1:34:02FBI took the gun, the FBI took and
1:34:05>> the prosecution doesn't have reasonable
1:34:07access to it. Like what what are you
1:34:09arguing here? initially the screwdriver
1:34:12and then when I heard testimony about
1:34:13the things that they didn't that they
1:34:14found that were suspicious um example
1:34:17being the backpack that's something that
1:34:18really bothers me uh that they say they
1:34:21traced the shooter they traced the route
1:34:23that he went on and then there was an
1:34:24abandon we know like it looks like he's
1:34:26wearing some sort of a backpack
1:34:29wait a minute Holly Movie star says well
1:34:31it's not gay if you leave your socks on
1:34:34wait what are you talking who
1:34:37what degenerate leaves their socks I
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1:35:06second prone phallic compression pause
1:35:08executed solely for temporal occupancy
1:35:11upon the genitalia prior to displacement
1:35:14to the next tactical node.
1:35:18Thank you for explaining that. You sound
1:35:20like you did plenty of service to the
1:35:22Navy Seals. Thank you for your service,
1:35:24sir. We the Rabbel says, "I think twigs
1:35:26just missed the flavor of avocado.
1:35:31Davelin Dennis says, "Who took your kids
1:35:33after they watched you go to jail?" I
1:35:35don't think they were watching me go to
1:35:37jail. You weird. You have weird
1:35:39fantasies, man. You have very strange
1:35:42fantasies. But if you want to know, they
1:35:44went with their grandparents.
1:35:50They went straight to their grandparents
1:35:52house.
1:35:56Does that does that help you? Do you
1:35:58feel better? Like, do you think you're
1:36:01accomplishing some sort of thing right
1:36:03now? Like, is is that what's going on?
1:36:07Don't All of this is in the public
1:36:10record. It's been exhaustively discussed
1:36:14for over two years now. Why are you hung
1:36:17up on what happened to my children? Are
1:36:19you some kind of faggot pedophile?
1:36:23Maybe.
1:36:25I know you're a weirdo though because
1:36:28you're Australian. 200 watt studio. So,
1:36:30does she really believe this?
1:36:35I'm going to say this really quickly.
1:36:40Candace
1:36:42doesn't believe
1:36:44anything other than what she's saying in
1:36:47the moment.
1:36:51She doesn't believe anything other than
1:36:54what she is saying in the moment. Every
1:36:56bit of her existence is what she is
1:36:58saying right now. She doesn't hold a
1:37:01belief.
1:37:03We know that there was an abandoned
1:37:05backpack found at the bus stop in front
1:37:07of a library and they felt that this
1:37:10should be taken into evidence. They took
1:37:12it. uh the FBI. Uh this was the
1:37:14testimony of Amanda Baker, I believe her
1:37:17last name is, but you might want to fact
1:37:18check that because I think I'm blending
1:37:20last names. Uh she so she was the
1:37:22forensics for the FBI. And then she says
1:37:24she gets a call on the 13th and they
1:37:28stop testing on this backpack because
1:37:30they find that the backpack actually
1:37:32belongs to somebody on Charlie's team.
1:37:35But if you know the map of the layout of
1:37:36the campus, you're going, "Well, what
1:37:38the hell are they doing all the way up?
1:37:39This is nowhere near anywhere." And by
1:37:41the way, that's not an acceptable answer
1:37:43for why you just gave it back. That's
1:37:46>> why
1:37:51why why
1:37:54is that not an acceptable answer
1:38:04for why to give it back? This backpack
1:38:08isn't actually a piece of the evidence.
1:38:10See, Candace has this problem. The
1:38:13problem with Candace, I mentioned this
1:38:14yesterday, I mentioned it today. I'll
1:38:16mention it a million more times in my
1:38:18life. Candace is operating backwards.
1:38:23She assumes that there's a conspiracy
1:38:27involving Jews and Charlie Kirk's
1:38:30security team to murder their boss slash
1:38:33their slave. if they're the Jew
1:38:35depending on the perspective of the
1:38:37security team or the or the Jewish
1:38:40slavers, right? She's like Benjamin
1:38:44Netanyahu
1:38:45organized with Charlie security team to
1:38:48have him murdered because he was
1:38:50starting to hate the Jews like a proper
1:38:51person.
1:38:53If you start with that assumption, then
1:38:57the backpack that is unrelated to
1:39:00anybody associated with the murder
1:39:03is relevant because it's the security
1:39:05team who was associated with the murder.
1:39:07And the backpack will have evidence
1:39:09that'll finally
1:39:12it'll have all the DNA strands like DNA
1:39:16strands of Americans are double helix,
1:39:18right? that that normal structure of DNA
1:39:20DNA strands in Israel are in the shape
1:39:22of the star of David. She's like once
1:39:26they test the DNA on that back backpack,
1:39:28they're going to find a bunch of Jewish
1:39:31stuff in there and then we'll know. You
1:39:34won't you won't know because there's no
1:39:37reason to believe that backpack is in
1:39:40any way involved. They can't find any
1:39:42evidence on it. So, they're like, "Well,
1:39:43that actually turns out that's not Tyler
1:39:45Robinson's backpack. We know this
1:39:46backpack's owner and we know that it
1:39:49wasn't anywhere near the murder site.
1:39:50So, whatever. They return it.
1:39:54This isn't strange. It's not a piece of
1:39:56evidence. It's relevant to the case.
1:39:58Well, it might be relevant, but it
1:40:00isn't.
1:40:03But it is not.
1:40:06This is the problem that she does not
1:40:10get.
1:40:13It's not evidence of anything unless
1:40:16there's evidence of something.
1:40:21We the Rabbel says, "Did the court
1:40:22determine how cut your Coke was?" No.
1:40:26No. The only the only BCA testing was
1:40:29related to the weight of the mixture,
1:40:32but um the whatever cutting my I had
1:40:37pretty pure stuff. Um, I tested it uh
1:40:42for all sorts of other things all the
1:40:44time. I didn't want to die from fentanyl
1:40:47and I didn't want to be ingesting meth.
1:40:51>> Still amazes me that you can live
1:40:53rentree in someone's head to the point
1:40:54that they will make a fresh burner
1:40:56account just to pay you money to make
1:40:58fun of you thinking they are gaining
1:41:00anything at all.
1:41:02>> Speaking of, Dave Denn says, "Show
1:41:04Wilson's your court documents of why CPS
1:41:06took your kids." Uh, please stop asking
1:41:09me to violate a court order. I won't do
1:41:11that. Davin Dennis says, "Is your tiny
1:41:13audience relative to your CPS record?"
1:41:15No, I don't think they're related.
1:41:17They're not relatives. We the Rebel
1:41:19says, "Dabbling Dennis is the only
1:41:20Australian I hate right now."
1:41:24What a weirdo.
1:41:26>> Not that like, why would you give it
1:41:27back? You're acting like no one's ever
1:41:28been killed by somebody on their team
1:41:29before.
1:41:31>> Progtologist Nick, my stuff was
1:41:33topnotch. I mean, um,
1:41:37not to get not to put too fine a point
1:41:39on it, but my dealer was not the, you
1:41:42know, like the street level guy that he
1:41:45was, he was the guy who received
1:41:48shipments from the boats. Came off the
1:41:51boat, he got the big shipment, and then,
1:41:54you know, I bought a bunch from from him
1:41:57at a time. Like, that's that's how it
1:41:59went.
1:42:02I I don't know. I got a I had a good
1:42:04invite.
1:42:05>> Right. So, I found that to be very
1:42:06strange that it was on the exact route
1:42:09that the that the alleged gunman ran and
1:42:12that their excuse was we just gave it
1:42:13back because we heard that this was some
1:42:15this belonged to some
1:42:18Aquinet says well you're getting a lot
1:42:20of money from this dabbling. I'm not
1:42:22though it's first of all it's $2 at a
1:42:24time and second it's it's Australian
1:42:27dollars so it's really like 45 cents
1:42:29>> body on Charlie's team. So that to me is
1:42:32you this is why the the investigation
1:42:35itself feels underwhelming when you
1:42:38learn and this is completely crazy to me
1:42:41that the some of the artifacts that
1:42:44Charlie was wearing were immediately
1:42:46returned.
1:42:50Here we go. Uh we the rabbel says 20
1:42:51Australian dollar requirement to
1:42:53redabbling dentist please. Actually
1:42:54we're going to just go ahead and do the
1:42:55same thing as last time. Dabbling
1:42:57dentist is the last one. Bradley says,
1:42:59"Three cheers for dabbling de Dennis."
1:43:01Hip hip, you're gay.
1:43:04Good work. All right, guys. Uh, I'm
1:43:07going to use for the second time in my
1:43:09illustrious career, we're going to use
1:43:11the YouTube goal feature,
1:43:14and we're going to just go ahead and set
1:43:15a goal. And, uh, we'll do 10 super chats
1:43:20at uh, yellow and higher.
1:43:24And then um if that happens, I will ban
1:43:29dabbling Dennis and he will fantasize
1:43:34about children elsewhere.
1:43:39There we go. Start the goal.
1:43:42So yeah, if we get if we get 10
1:43:45$10 or higher super chats over the next
1:43:47couple hours, then I'll go ahead and ban
1:43:50him or whenever we get them. Like if we
1:43:52get him in next couple minutes, of
1:43:54course, I'll just ban him right away.
1:43:56Okay, back to Candace
1:43:58>> to Erica. That's absurd. That is absurd.
1:44:01Everything should be in evidence. When
1:44:02you learn that the car,
1:44:05>> not everything should be in evidence.
1:44:07What a dumb statement. Only relevant
1:44:10things should be in evidence. Everything
1:44:13should be in evidence. Why? What about
1:44:16What about that backpack deserves to be
1:44:18in evidence? Somebody tell me. Oh shit.
1:44:21We got box fort defendant for the hoorde
1:44:24or whatever rounds. We've got Kimberly
1:44:27Campbell for banning. I will contribute
1:44:29life in general says one actually three.
1:44:32Lady Tammy says I hate goals but
1:44:36I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. I
1:44:39try not to just I'm not you know I'm
1:44:41trying to make sure not to abuse this.
1:44:42We're already at four out of 10
1:44:45>> that they carried Charlie in to go to
1:44:47the hospital. They had immediately
1:44:49towed, cleaned, and back up for resale.
1:44:53>> DX Mania says, "Does a does a $20 one
1:44:57count as two?" Nope, it doesn't. I don't
1:44:59think I think because it's literally
1:45:01number of super chats. It's number of
1:45:04super chats. Thank you. Life in general
1:45:07says two.
1:45:09I think I think we're farther than that.
1:45:12We're We're doing pretty well. I think
1:45:13that that makes it six, right? That
1:45:15we're at six out of 10.
1:45:18We're six out of 10.
1:45:21I'm now Minnesota 6. This is great.
1:45:24>> That's absurd. That should be sitting in
1:45:26evidence. And any police officer that
1:45:27you speak to will say or person that's
1:45:29been involved in a crime will say, "I
1:45:30didn't get my stuff back for years." Had
1:45:32nothing to do with anything. It was just
1:45:33around.
1:45:34>> A person involved in a crime says, "I
1:45:38didn't get my stuff back for years."
1:45:40Yeah. They're involved in the crime. You
1:45:43know who's not involved in the crime?
1:45:46Charlie Kirk's security team isn't
1:45:51involved in the crime.
1:45:56DX Mania says, "Well, shit. I guess
1:45:58here's another one then." Thank you.
1:46:00Progtologist says, "Did I hear something
1:46:02about Diddler banning?" And Kate of the
1:46:04Swiss Kiss with a callous and cold goal
1:46:10closer. Not even an acknowledgement. No
1:46:14chat. I got He doesn't even need to say
1:46:17it. All right.
1:46:20I have no pro like we no problem fixing
1:46:25this problem. I think it's probably
1:46:26already done. Yeah, it they've already
1:46:30they've already been removed. Go
1:46:31fantasize about children in a different
1:46:34chat. You could try I won't I won't say
1:46:36that. That's me. You could try, you
1:46:38know, anything else. Life in general
1:46:41says, "I was counting my chats big, but
1:46:43fine. 11.
1:46:46Thank you. Thank you all. Mark 87 says,
1:46:49"Screw that loser."
1:46:52They might want that.
1:46:55They might They might enjoy that.
1:47:01And I And they kept it into evidence
1:47:03until the trial was over. And it has to
1:47:06be approved, I think somebody said, by
1:47:07the attorney general off on giving you
1:47:09those objects back. And we were told
1:47:11this is all fine. And we see, and this
1:47:13is just one example, Erica holding the
1:47:17uh crucifix. Uh that's that should be an
1:47:20evidence.
1:47:21>> Why? What is the crucifix prove about
1:47:25the murder?
1:47:27The cruc JESUS CHRIST DID NOT KILL
1:47:30CHARLIE Kirk through his necklace. You
1:47:33dumb fucking bitch.
1:47:38Somebody help me.
1:47:41Why? What the crucifix should be an
1:47:44evidence? Why?
1:47:46What does a crucifix show? What thing do
1:47:50you believe even?
1:47:54She believes, here's the She believes
1:47:58there's explosive residue on Jesus
1:48:02Christ's murder weapon
1:48:06because she won't say it, but she
1:48:10believes a shaped charge from a Jewish
1:48:14microphone killed Charlie Kirk.
1:48:18That's what she legitimately believe.
1:48:20She will not say it, but that's what she
1:48:23believes happened. So, she thinks
1:48:27because Baron Coleman and Julian Dory or
1:48:30whatever, and we are still going to go
1:48:33through uh Baron Coleman and Julian
1:48:36Dory's interview with the Forensic
1:48:37Examiner. We're going to go through that
1:48:39soon. She believes because those two are
1:48:43fucking dumb
1:48:46that the chain is a relevant piece of
1:48:48evidence.
1:48:50Nothing.
1:48:52Nothing about that chain will prove
1:48:54anything.
1:48:56what that guy was trying to tell Baron
1:48:59Coleman. Baron the 30 IQ lawyer Coleman
1:49:04and also by the way Baron the
1:49:09confidential informant for the
1:49:12government. Baron Coleman the government
1:49:17agent fag.
1:49:20That guy. Baron Coleman, the guy who
1:49:23worked for the government as an
1:49:27informant,
1:49:29that guy
1:49:35doesn't understand
1:49:39that the forensic guy was saying, "We
1:49:43would want the chain so that we could
1:49:46rule out your ludicrous assertion of a
1:49:49shaped charge." But nobody's going to
1:49:52need to rule out a shaped charge. Nobody
1:49:55needs to rule out a shape charge
1:50:01because no one in the case is going to
1:50:05suggest a shape charge. Defense isn't
1:50:07going to raise it.
1:50:09It's not going to happen. You know why?
1:50:12There's no evidence of it. There's none.
1:50:19Did you guys not know that Baron Coleman
1:50:21was a confidential informant
1:50:24in a major criminal case several years
1:50:27ago? He also lied to the court under
1:50:29oath and had to write an affidavit.
1:50:33He had to write an affidavit explaining
1:50:35why his lie wasn't a lie to keep himself
1:50:37out of jail and that his law partner
1:50:40left because his law partner knew what
1:50:42was going on. You guys don't know that
1:50:44about Baron Coleman, right? Oh, that's
1:50:46weird. Strange.
1:50:49>> Candace Owens gave too many blowjobs at
1:50:51Fox News and now she's got come in her
1:50:53brains. She don't think good.
1:50:56>> She don't think good.
1:50:59Okay.
1:51:02Okay. Here we go. Brian Fitch says,
1:51:03"You're combating her insanity better.
1:51:05You believe it was worth $300,000 for
1:51:07Wilson?" I I don't know. I don't know
1:51:09how much money Andrew Wilson has.
1:51:12So, I I don't know if it's worth it or
1:51:15not.
1:51:16Uh thought he'd press her more. Not sure
1:51:19much changed after the debate. Of
1:51:20course, nothing was going to change from
1:51:21the debate. The reason he didn't press
1:51:23her more, in my opinion, one, it's
1:51:27exhausting to press an idiot. It's
1:51:30exhausting to try like, okay, okay, come
1:51:33on, come on, keep up. Keep up. Right.
1:51:36Like, that is so fucking irritating. So
1:51:39that's one reason I don't think he
1:51:40pressed her very hard. The other reason
1:51:42is
1:51:44he really got cooked.
1:51:47He really got cooked by that dirty
1:51:49snizzlicking lesb
1:51:53when he lost his temper. He's like, "You
1:51:56look sneez. I don't have to listen to
1:51:57you, you bulldike bitch." Which was the
1:52:00funniest thing he could say. You ditch
1:52:03liquor. You ditch liquor. You sneeze
1:52:05liquor. You ditch cleaning snizzlicker.
1:52:09I'm 100% in support of that ranch. I
1:52:11think it was the funniest thing he could
1:52:13say, but he got fucking hooked for
1:52:16losing his temper there. And Candace
1:52:18Owens is so insufferably
1:52:22irritating
1:52:24that I think what he did was, I'm going
1:52:27to make sure I don't lose my fucking
1:52:29cool.
1:52:40Okay, what do we got? What do we got? We
1:52:43got a couple more chats here. We got
1:52:45Venom Dave sent some jamming jewels.
1:52:47Thank you. Everybody loves jamming their
1:52:49jewels. We the rabble says, "Once a
1:52:51jolly swagman was a fig on stream."
1:52:55Wait, what are you talking about? 200
1:52:58Watt Studio says, "Gotta go. Another
1:53:00Vietnam massage video went live.
1:53:05Jim tells you the crucifix proves it was
1:53:07the Jews because Jesus was a Jew and the
1:53:09Jews had him killed too. So it's obvious
1:53:11you had traitors. Uh so it's obvious if
1:53:14you just give yourself some brain
1:53:15damage, you would see it, too. No, I I
1:53:17see it also. And then Shauna Price sent
1:53:20200 jewels flow state. I don't know what
1:53:23flow state is, but I'm in a state of
1:53:25flow at all times. irrespective of if
1:53:28you feel bad for her and think she
1:53:30should have, you know, have it and it's
1:53:31sweet, that should be an evidence uh
1:53:34immediately paving over the crime scene.
1:53:37>> It wasn't immediate, by the way. It was
1:53:39a couple days later and it was after the
1:53:40crime scene was completely cleared and
1:53:42released back to the school. Nothing to
1:53:44do with the cops and nothing to do with
1:53:46it wasn't a crime scene at the time
1:53:48either. Uh Lucy Danielle Lucille
1:53:51Danielle says uh sends happy poop which
1:53:54is better than angry poop I think
1:54:00this
1:54:03is this is like the craziest thing ever
1:54:05is like sense you immediately and when
1:54:08you heard the guy who did it actually go
1:54:10up on a podcast and explain I got the
1:54:12call they said it was a paver emergency
1:54:15>> yes they wanted to immediately ely pave
1:54:19over the sight of a murder
1:54:22immediately being of course 48 hours
1:54:26after it was already cleared by law
1:54:31enforcement. All law enforcement agents
1:54:34were done. The evidence was collected.
1:54:36They weren't going to go back and pick
1:54:39up more stuff. That wasn't going to
1:54:41happen.
1:54:43But the crime scene is a biohazard. I
1:54:46don't I mean they have a duty to clean
1:54:48that up. The other thing is
1:54:52it's a public university if students who
1:54:56would have potentially been present,
1:54:57people would have been present and every
1:54:59time they walk by and see a big puddle
1:55:01of bloody gr like bloody grass or bloody
1:55:04cement or whatever
1:55:06because remember she's complaining about
1:55:09them paving it over. If she's
1:55:11complaining about them paving it over,
1:55:12she would similarly comp complain about
1:55:14them cleaning it up.
1:55:17She wanted them to leave the crime scene
1:55:19undisturbed. An outdoor
1:55:22an outdoor exposed to the elements crime
1:55:25scene undisturbed
1:55:29and somehow prevent anybody from going
1:55:31anywhere near it, sneaking past tape,
1:55:33which means putting up full-time
1:55:35security for an indefinite period of
1:55:37time because what is the acceptable
1:55:39amount of time for them to change it?
1:55:41What is the acceptable amount? Candace
1:55:43just told us, cuz I know she lives
1:55:46moment to moment, but I don't. I'm stuck
1:55:48in one moment forever. She just told us
1:55:51that the backpack should be held all the
1:55:54way past the end of the case, which
1:55:56means she would want the crime scene
1:55:58preserved for inspection and
1:56:00investigation all the way past the end
1:56:01of the case because she is dumb. She
1:56:04doesn't understand that there's nothing
1:56:07else to get. Second of all, this this
1:56:10it's not really a crime scene in the
1:56:12sense of finding evidence that will lead
1:56:16to a conclusion of who committed the
1:56:18crime because the person committing the
1:56:20crime was 147 yards away on a roof. He
1:56:24wasn't where Charlie Kirk was. The
1:56:27evidence that they were going to get
1:56:29from Charlie Kirk, uh, from that area
1:56:32would be, I guess, DNA samples from any
1:56:35any blood or human tissue that they were
1:56:37able to find in the grass. And then they
1:56:39were going to get, you know, any sort of
1:56:41electronic evidence from any cameras,
1:56:44etc., which Candace Owens has criticized
1:56:47the security team even though they
1:56:49preserved the camera evidence by
1:56:52grabbing the SD cards. And then they
1:56:54were gonna find maybe a bullet. Maybe.
1:56:58They don't know. But you know what they
1:57:00found? They found the bullet inside of
1:57:01his body with no exit wound. So guess
1:57:05what? They didn't. And they found that
1:57:07that night. They found that that night
1:57:10at the autopsy that Candace Owens swore
1:57:12did not happen until it was filed in
1:57:16court.
1:57:18And then she said, "I don't believe
1:57:20this. This is a forgery. This bitch is a
1:57:23fraud.
1:57:26She says any evidence, anything.
1:57:31Every piece of evidence has come out. I
1:57:32don't believe that. I don't believe
1:57:33that. I don't believe that they couldn't
1:57:35do the autopsy that fast. No, they
1:57:37could. Really easily, actually. You know
1:57:39why? Because they knew what the cause of
1:57:40death was. They didn't have to go on a
1:57:42hunting mission. They weren't looking
1:57:43for a fentanyl overdose. There wasn't a
1:57:46kneeling cop around to deliver fentanyl
1:57:48through his kneecap needle. None of THAT
1:57:52HAPPENED.
1:57:54EVERYBODY WATCHED a bullet go into
1:57:55Charlie KURT'S NECK AND BLOOD FOUNTAIN
1:57:58out like I bet that's what killed him.
1:58:01It wasn't COVID. It wasn't AIDS. It was
1:58:04a fucking bullet blowing a huge hole in
1:58:07his neck and shattering his spine,
1:58:10turning him into a temporary Stephen
1:58:11Hawking for 20 seconds until he died.
1:58:19She's out here trying where's what? We
1:58:22need all that evidence. What evidence?
1:58:26What do you think you're going to find?
1:58:29Well, this is a good one. Levon says,
1:58:31"Nick will never recover from Coleman
1:58:33getting on Julian Dory." I've never
1:58:35heard of Julian Dory
1:58:37until Baron Coleman was on him. Like, I
1:58:40never heard of this this guy. He doesn't
1:58:42have a particularly huge channel.
1:58:45He's not small. Like, he's doing great.
1:58:47I don't Go ahead. But like you think I'm
1:58:51je like I I I've never heard of him. I
1:58:53don't care to be on that show or like I
1:58:56didn't even know it existed. What are we
1:58:58talking about?
1:59:02John Gelain says EEG and Carol's case
1:59:03hinges on Trump pressing up against her
1:59:05in a cloak room. That cloak room should
1:59:08have been cordined off for all these
1:59:10years. We the Rav says why does this
1:59:12dumb Sea want the primary suspect
1:59:13cleared?
1:59:16No idea.
1:59:21Mr. Mike, Mr. Mike says, "Vaves was on
1:59:22with Alex. You could have been having
1:59:24fun." How would I be having fun?
1:59:26Uh, Jacqueline Brennan says, "Rachel
1:59:28said on a live he wanted to ask much
1:59:31more but couldn't. I think she sprung an
1:59:33NDA on him last minute and wouldn't
1:59:35answer things uh
1:59:38on on security guard lawsuit." Who
1:59:42knows?
1:59:46Westbro says, "Pretty sure that cunt is
1:59:48a Kiwi." Like a Kiwi farm. Like a farmer
1:59:51of Kiwis or do you mean like a New
1:59:53Zealander? Lazarus AF says, "Operation
1:59:56Letter Speak. She defeated herself."
2:00:00>> I don't I've never in my entire
2:00:02>> remember there's a huge group of people
2:00:03who think she won this debate. They
2:00:06think that she won this. They think that
2:00:09she has made intelligible points that
2:00:11she's articulated and defended her
2:00:13position well. like uh I mean may God
2:00:16have mercy on them.
2:00:18>> We heard of a PA emergency. They had all
2:00:21>> Why would you have grounds grounds
2:00:24substained? Why would you have grounds
2:00:26to hear about a PA emergency in any
2:00:28other context? Are you familiar with any
2:00:31other uh public sites that have had
2:00:34someone murdered on grass? Like is that
2:00:37something that's normally in your
2:00:39purview like that and then you're
2:00:42inserted? I've never heard of a paper
2:00:44emergency. Oh, well, you've never been
2:00:46to a Home Depot at 6:57
2:00:49p.m. on a Sunday, have you? You dumb ho?
2:00:53You wouldn't have to.
2:00:55Anybody who's ever been driving 900
2:01:00miles an hour to get into Home Depot
2:01:02before it closes on a Sunday or Hobby
2:01:07Lobby like they know what a PA is.
2:01:11had a stab in a vehicle homicide when I
2:01:13was at Marriott by Harbor Island. Bof
2:01:16clean up in a couple hours after
2:01:17investigators left. Lot of foot traffic
2:01:20and rich folk. It's normal. It wasn't
2:01:22me. FYI,
2:01:24you you keep telling everybody that
2:01:26someone will believe you. No, of course.
2:01:29Of course. What do you What do people
2:01:32expect them to keep like what are they
2:01:34collecting?
2:01:35What are they going to collect from a
2:01:38crime scene that's at open air in Utah
2:01:44uh 72 hours later, 128 hours later? What
2:01:48are they going to collect? What's going
2:01:50to be there? What do they think?
2:01:51Remember, the highest degradations on
2:01:54the rifle from DNA, the DNA on the rifle
2:01:57degrades by being in the outdoor
2:02:00environment in Utah in the summer. Like
2:02:03that's that's how that's a place where
2:02:04DNA degrades.
2:02:07It's part of the process. Heat,
2:02:10humidity, rain, moisture, like not just
2:02:13not just humidity, moisture, but like
2:02:15condensation and other things that
2:02:17causes DNA to degrade. She doesn't
2:02:19understand this.
2:02:23And again, someone said earlier we
2:02:26addressed this. Didn't know why he
2:02:28didn't press her more.
2:02:31This chick can't follow the instructions
2:02:32on a Campbell soup can. You're going to
2:02:35walk her through a murder investigation.
2:02:37She sits there smuggly acting like she
2:02:40has any idea how to do this. Every
2:02:43single thing she says is wrong.
2:02:46Everything she says, she like, "I don't
2:02:48understand this." We know. I don't
2:02:50understand why they didn't do that. We
2:02:52know. I don't understand why they did
2:02:54this. We know. I don't understand why
2:02:56this picture proves anything. We know.
2:02:58You just stop and I don't understand. We
2:03:02know. That's what we've all been saying.
2:03:04It's okay for you to have an unhinged
2:03:07irrational belief in anything. Nobody
2:03:09fucking cares. But we know you don't
2:03:12know. So stop accusing everybody like
2:03:16riing everybody up into this idea of a
2:03:18conspiracy with no evidence. When
2:03:20there's evidence of a government's
2:03:21conspiracy, bury them. But your retarded
2:03:24assertions that are completely baseless,
2:03:29they dilute the real notion of a real
2:03:33conspiracy that's really done when the
2:03:35government really wants to. If the
2:03:37government really did do something here
2:03:40and we show we get any any evidence,
2:03:42remember she's she's saying I' I'd
2:03:44accept any evidence. She's never
2:03:46produced a single shred, not a cintillaa
2:03:49of evidence, that there's a government
2:03:50conspiracy that involves Israel and the
2:03:53French Foreign Legion to frame Tyler
2:03:55Robinson for no reason. Because again,
2:03:58if there was a reason, she wouldn't
2:04:00understand what it was.
2:04:02The most precient and accurate thing she
2:04:06said in this entire b debate was when
2:04:09Andrew asked her a question, she said,
2:04:11"I can explain it to you, but I can't
2:04:13understand it for you." Yeah, you can't
2:04:16understand it. Period. So, you certainly
2:04:19can't do it for someone else. We No.
2:04:26Inter Milan says, "You are a paid little
2:04:29liar." I guarantee you Candace Owens
2:04:33getting paid by somebody
2:04:36for her coverage on Charlie Kirk. You
2:04:38know who I'm getting paid by? You guys,
2:04:42people in chat. only people in the chat
2:04:45and any ad revenue I get from YouTube
2:04:48and Rumble. That's it.
2:04:51That's That's my payment. Israel didn't
2:04:54give me $7,000. I wasn't on that list.
2:04:56I'm not in the 92 name group chat. I'm
2:05:00not in the 47 name group chat. I'm not
2:05:02in any of those things.
2:05:05None of them. I don't get a single
2:05:07dollar. I don't get advertising deals
2:05:09from other people. All my ads are just
2:05:11the generic YouTube ads. I don't do ad
2:05:14read spots. I don't have government
2:05:15contracts anywhere. I don't get
2:05:17anything. I'm still I'm still a fucking
2:05:19criminal with a suspended law license. I
2:05:22don't get anything from anybody for
2:05:24covering this. What is Candace getting?
2:05:28Candace ran an ad on Patrick Bet David's
2:05:31program.
2:05:35You want to call everybody a paid shill?
2:05:36Candace is the highest paid shill
2:05:40in this entire situation.
2:05:45>> Already had someone come up and dig up
2:05:46the dirt. So by the time he got there on
2:05:49Sunday, the dirt had already been dug up
2:05:51for him to lay down pavers. That is what
2:05:54people are looking at and going, "This
2:05:56is weird. There needs to be answers for
2:05:58why this was done." And he tells us the
2:06:00call came from the feds and the
2:06:01governor's office. UVU's wa washed their
2:06:04hands of it. And what he's saying sounds
2:06:06true because we heard during the
2:06:07testimony uh one person described the
2:06:10regions of who was in control of
2:06:11everything. The feds were in control of
2:06:13the courtyard. So in order for anybody
2:06:14to have paid anything that was federal
2:06:16territory.
2:06:17>> What is she talking about? That's not
2:06:20true.
2:06:22We know that the feds are in charge of
2:06:24the wait of the University of Utah's
2:06:28courtyard. The feds are in charge.
2:06:32What is But it came from the the call
2:06:35came from the governor's office. But no,
2:06:37it had to come from the feds because the
2:06:38feds are in charge of the University of
2:06:40Utah's courtyard.
2:06:45What are you talking about?
2:06:48We know the feds were in charge. So, we
2:06:50know where the call came from, but no
2:06:51one knows where the call came from. It
2:06:52was the governor, but the feds.
2:07:00We the Rabbel says, "Fun twist. BB
2:07:02Netanyahu is paying Candace Owens to
2:07:04distract from Iran."
2:07:09Uh, Jacqueline Brennan says, "Would have
2:07:11had more lev if he only gave half the
2:07:14money before." Oh, leverage.
2:07:19She wouldn't have done it,
2:07:22so to speak. I'm maybe not using that in
2:07:23the best cop term, but the feds were in
2:07:25control of the courtyard. So these are
2:07:28things that I think should be answered
2:07:31for. Why? Why are we doing things
2:07:32differently?
2:07:33>> These are things that I think should be
2:07:36answered for. Nobody cares what you
2:07:37think.
2:07:39Nobody cares. Like nobody involved in
2:07:41the investigation cares what you think
2:07:43they should answer for. He says next
2:07:46she's saying, "Why are we doing things
2:07:48different than we do otherwise?" We're
2:07:49not.
2:07:51She doesn't know. Raggedy man says,
2:07:54"Everybody is getting $7,000. Where's my
2:07:57$7,000? Send dim duckets over here." I
2:08:00didn't get it.
2:08:02I went to the bank. My check bounced. I
2:08:05don't know.
2:08:07Uh, we the Rabbel says Utah Valley
2:08:08University is not university. Oh, yeah.
2:08:10That's right. UVU. So, Utah Valley
2:08:12University. Sorry. Is it a federal
2:08:14institution?
2:08:18Because that was a claim I was
2:08:20addressing. Sorry. Let me call Andrew
2:08:22Wilson. He'll explain to you what a
2:08:24claim is
2:08:27>> than you would in any other criminal
2:08:30scenario of
2:08:32>> She doesn't know how any criminal
2:08:34investigation works. She's like, "Why
2:08:35are they doing it differently?"
2:08:37Two things. One, they're not doing it
2:08:39particularly differently than they would
2:08:41handle any other thing. But two, the
2:08:44differences that they do have are
2:08:46because it's a highprofile political
2:08:49assassination. Why do you think the
2:08:51federal government was there
2:08:52investigating? They didn't know if this
2:08:54is a federal crime
2:08:56until they found out, no, it's it's
2:08:58actually a state crime. The state
2:09:00prosecution will handle it. But the
2:09:01federal government is there because the
2:09:03FBI office is close by. They can start
2:09:05the investigation. It's a political
2:09:07assassination. Who knows? What if he had
2:09:10traveled across state lines to kill
2:09:12Charlie Kirk?
2:09:14What if the gun had been shipped in
2:09:15interstate commerce? What if there was a
2:09:16terroristic threat? What if he was a
2:09:18foreign agent? What if anything
2:09:19happened? It might need might have
2:09:20needed federal investigative power.
2:09:25What if it was a foreign diplomat who
2:09:26did it,
2:09:28right?
2:09:30What if it was a federal agent who shot
2:09:32him? Shit, I shouldn't say that. Now
2:09:35they'll figure it out. They needed the
2:09:37feds at the preliminary phase of the
2:09:39investigation. They also have
2:09:40investigative investigative expertise
2:09:43and a lot of tools and a lot of
2:09:44resources that Utah would love to use.
2:09:48So they did till they found out a state
2:09:51case. State completes the investigation.
2:09:53Okay, cool. There is some stuff the
2:09:55federal government may still be
2:09:57investigating. And again, I mentioned
2:09:59this yesterday, but it bears repeating.
2:10:01Candace Owens doesn't understand, common
2:10:03theme here, she doesn't understand that
2:10:05the stuff that they're holding on to and
2:10:07still investigating potentially
2:10:10means that they're investigating the
2:10:11possibility of another collaborator.
2:10:13It's why they do it. keeping the
2:10:16evidence until we know more, until we're
2:10:18confident. Uh, you know, the various
2:10:20decoys. I did it. I did it. It just
2:10:22doesn't
2:10:22>> It was That's not a decoy. That's an
2:10:24insane person. It's only a decoy if you
2:10:27assume that the French Foreign Legion
2:10:29sent some weirdo there to act as a
2:10:31decoy. No evidence of this. They're
2:10:33like, "Actually, this is just a crazy
2:10:35guy's confessed some other stuff. We
2:10:36know this guy's just a weirdo." Okay.
2:10:41No one knows what it's like to be the
2:10:44bad man,
2:10:47to be the sad man
2:10:50behind blue eyes. We the rabbel says,
2:10:54"Obviously, it wasn't the Jews, it was
2:10:56the Mormons. No one knows what it's like
2:10:59to be a Mormon."
2:11:03Uh, 200 W Studio says, "I'm back. The
2:11:06backwalking was short. this one.
2:11:09Oh, your Vietnamese massage video
2:11:16look right.
2:11:18>> Okay. So, go back to the question. So,
2:11:19what would you need to see for you to
2:11:21say
2:11:21>> something if they had I was expecting
2:11:23here we have
2:11:24>> even crowded
2:11:27Patrick Bet David is like I already
2:11:30asked this question but I will ask again
2:11:32because your answer was nothing.
2:11:36him. He took the shot. Here it is. And
2:11:37then I'd be like, great.
2:11:42>> Patty Leather says, "Why does Candace
2:11:44have to prove some crazy theory, but
2:11:45Andrew can claim a fuzzy video is
2:11:47absolute proof? You li you were lying."
2:11:48Pull. Actually, you're the liar, Patty
2:11:51Leather. Because Candace asked him about
2:11:53the video, and he said, "The video by
2:11:55itself doesn't show anything, but it's
2:11:57corroborated by other pieces of
2:11:58evidence. Evidence is looked at
2:12:00wholesomely, and no one asked Candace to
2:12:02prove anything."
2:12:05But
2:12:07she says, this is the entire premise of
2:12:11her position on the debate. Her stated
2:12:15debate
2:12:16is defending the fact that she believes
2:12:20there is overwhelming evidence that
2:12:23Tyler Robinson is a pacy for the federal
2:12:25government's conspiracy to murder
2:12:27Charlie Kirk.
2:12:29That's her claim. And she says there is
2:12:31overwhelming evidence for it.
2:12:35No one asked her to prove it. No one put
2:12:39that burden on her. She said that's what
2:12:41there is and that she will bring it. She
2:12:44hasn't
2:12:45>> a clear image of him on the staircase.
2:12:46I'm like, that's definitively Tyler
2:12:48Robinson and he was on campus. We got
2:12:49nothing. We got literally nothing but
2:12:52hearsay of people saying,
2:12:54>> but you're basically getting no.
2:12:55>> We didn't get literally nothing but
2:12:57hearsay. Actually, there's a lot of
2:13:00direct evidence that was not hearsay.
2:13:02case.
2:13:03>> Videos are not hearsay,
2:13:05by the way, unless the statement
2:13:07contained in the video is hearsay, like
2:13:10a statement, and it's offered to prove
2:13:13the truth of the matter asserted by the
2:13:15statement. But if video itself is not
2:13:18hearsay, unless the video is created to
2:13:21make a statement, like if it's an
2:13:22artistic piece to deliver a message,
2:13:24that that could be a statement. But a a
2:13:26security video is not a statement. It's
2:13:28not hearsay. So all the security videos,
2:13:30all those have to be is authenticated by
2:13:32someone who retrieved the videos and
2:13:34said these are accurate. They're
2:13:35unedited or they're edited in this
2:13:37specific way that I can show and blah
2:13:39blah blah and we have the originals. All
2:13:40that once they authenticate it, videos
2:13:42are not hearsay. So Candace is wrong yet
2:13:45again. Same with photographs.
2:13:46Photographs are not hearsay unless it's
2:13:48a photograph of a statement that falls
2:13:50under a hearsay definition. We the
2:13:52rabble says Tyler is a pacy for Joseph
2:13:54Smith's comp conspiracy. He's got good
2:13:56ins.
2:13:58You know, basically no case off planet
2:13:59Earth do you get the Sure. Oh, we got a
2:14:01picture here with the murder weapon.
2:14:05>> So, if the video records a person
2:14:07saying, "I heard so and so say X." No.
2:14:09Any statement in the video,
2:14:12they don't even have to hear someone
2:14:14else and relay it. But any statement
2:14:16made in the video is a declarant
2:14:18statement made outside of court, right?
2:14:21Unless the video was created inside
2:14:23court under oath. And but those aren't
2:14:26always common. But so any video that
2:14:28contains any words, those words are
2:14:30hearsay if
2:14:33the video is introduced to prove the
2:14:35matter asserted by the words. So if the
2:14:38guy says
2:14:40Tommy killed him, Tommy stabbed him in
2:14:42the neck on video and you introduce that
2:14:45video for the purposes of saying that
2:14:48Tommy killed the person by stabbing them
2:14:50in the neck. That's hearsay. All right.
2:14:54That's hearsay.
2:14:56So that's excluded unless there's a
2:14:58recognized exception.
2:15:01However,
2:15:02however,
2:15:04let's say
2:15:07that the statement in the video is the
2:15:09exact same. Tommy killed him. Tommy
2:15:12stabbed him in the neck. Said a little
2:15:14differently, but the same words. Tommy
2:15:16killed Tommy stabbed him in the neck.
2:15:18Tommy's coming.
2:15:21And then the guy
2:15:23guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy
2:15:23guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy
2:15:23guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy
2:15:23guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy
2:15:23who said that like the other guy pulls
2:15:28out a gun and like starts to defend
2:15:30himself right well now it's not entered
2:15:34for the purpose of showing that Tommy
2:15:36killed him by stabbing in the neck it's
2:15:38entered for the purpose of showing the
2:15:40guy who's doing self-defense the
2:15:41self-defensing or whatever his state of
2:15:43mind his state of mind is he knows that
2:15:46Tommy's a killer who stabs people in the
2:15:48neck now he's got his gun he knows
2:15:50Tommy's
2:15:51Right. So, you can you can see where
2:15:53those those same statements can be made
2:15:56in a video. One would be hearsay.
2:15:59Well, they're both hearsay, but one
2:16:01would fall under the exception because
2:16:03it's not offered for the proof of the
2:16:04matter asserted. John Galain says, "How
2:16:08can video be primmaaccia evidence if you
2:16:10can't make out the face?" It's a good
2:16:12joke. I I think you're joking.
2:16:14>> You're right.
2:16:15>> Here's him taking the shot.
2:16:16>> Most most of this doesn't take place on
2:16:17a college campus that has surveillance
2:16:19everywhere. Yeah.
2:16:22>> Wait. So, yeah. This guy is talking out
2:16:24of his Are you talking about me? I'm not
2:16:26talking out of my ass. I'm talking out
2:16:27of my mouth.
2:16:30>> Dude, you're so bad at this. You're
2:16:32promoting Cand Candace Lul.
2:16:35I know. She wasn't going to make it
2:16:37without my promotions. Lucky bitch to
2:16:39have me
2:16:40>> image of his.
2:16:41>> But I don't understand when when you're
2:16:42asked if you're asked the question,
2:16:44"What would it take to convince?" It'd
2:16:46be the same question be asked to me.
2:16:48Andrew, what would it take to convince
2:16:50you that the oppositional is true,
2:16:54>> right? That he's a patchy or something
2:16:55like that.
2:16:57>> Patty Leather. Sometimes I wonder
2:17:01how dumb you are. Defending Tyler
2:17:03doesn't require proving who did it.
2:17:05Pock, it's obvious Israel was involved,
2:17:07but it's not relevant to Tyler's
2:17:08innocence. It's obvious Israel's
2:17:11involved is a weird statement, but
2:17:13ignoring that, I've never said defending
2:17:16Tyler requires proving who did it. I've
2:17:19said if you want to be persuasive to a
2:17:22jury on reasonable doubt, one of the
2:17:26best ways and and a lot of times one of
2:17:28the only ways you can accomplish that is
2:17:30by proposing an alternative reasonable
2:17:33theory. You know why that's useful? Can
2:17:36you figure it out? If you say, "Nah, it
2:17:39didn't happen that way. Ha, I have to
2:17:41prove shit." The jury goes, "Okay, well,
2:17:44we don't have any basis for doubt now."
2:17:47Like, you haven't given us anything.
2:17:49You're not required to, but they don't
2:17:50have any reason to believe you're
2:17:52nuh-uh. But if you give them a
2:17:54reasonable alternative scenario that
2:17:56fits the same facts, suddenly there is
2:17:59reasonable doubt. You can show it. No,
2:18:01no, it could have happened this way. In
2:18:03fact, the evidence supports it happening
2:18:05this way at least as much as the other
2:18:07way. I would argue more. Okay. Well, now
2:18:11now we have a basis for doubt. Now we
2:18:13have something that we can latch on to.
2:18:15It's more persuasive. No one's ever
2:18:17Well, I've never said it's required.
2:18:20I've said it's a good fucking idea
2:18:22because it's a good idea. If you say if
2:18:25you're in a room with someone and
2:18:27they're dead on the ground, you're
2:18:28holding a gun, it looks like you killed
2:18:30them. If you can just go, "No, I didn't
2:18:32shoot him." You can't prove it. They
2:18:35will. They'll prove it. You know how
2:18:37they'll prove it? Because you can't
2:18:38figure out any other way that guy gets
2:18:40shot without some evidence.
2:18:45Without some evidence. Not pure
2:18:47speculation.
2:18:49So maybe you go, "Well, I got to take
2:18:52the stand and tell him what happened."
2:18:55It was my gun. He grabbed it for I was
2:18:57going to shoot myself. He grabbed it
2:18:58from me and shot himself.
2:19:01He couldn't live with the shame of what
2:19:02he was about to be arrested for, blah
2:19:04blah blah. I knew the details,
2:19:07etc., etc. I picked my gun up
2:19:11afterwards. The cops came in. I was
2:19:13still holding it. I dropped it
2:19:14immediately. I said, "It wasn't me. It
2:19:15wasn't me. It was him."
2:19:17Well, now now you have at least
2:19:20something. And then you can start to
2:19:22maybe link that to the angle of the
2:19:23bullet and all of this stuff. Sure. But
2:19:26until you give them something, just go I
2:19:29I didn't do it actually. Yeah. Every
2:19:31defendant ever.
2:19:36We the Rabbel says, "Imagine being Tyler
2:19:38getting getting in place to take his
2:19:40shot and some random IDF steals your
2:19:42thunder. Then you end up on trial."
2:19:44Yeah, I used to deal with this in
2:19:45EverQuest. It was called kill stealing.
2:19:48That was mine, you bitch. just good,
2:19:50clear, concise evidence that's been
2:19:51presented, right, and is being presented
2:19:54that I could go through and link all
2:19:56together to see if there's actually some
2:19:58clear picture of there being a pathy.
2:20:01That's what it would take for me. Okay,
2:20:02just a good
2:20:03>> I don't disagree with that. We haven't
2:20:04heard the defense,
2:20:05>> just a good evidentary standard and then
2:20:07of course I would change my mind.
2:20:09>> We haven't heard the defense response.
2:20:10The defense is not going to provide
2:20:13that. The defense is not going to
2:20:15provide evidence of Tyler Robinson being
2:20:17a psy with an alternative timeline. That
2:20:20won't happen. We haven't heard the
2:20:21defense response. We have We actually
2:20:24have a very very good idea of what the
2:20:27defense is going to do
2:20:30because the defense has said all of
2:20:32those conspiracy theories are nonsense.
2:20:35They said in their motion to exclude
2:20:37cameras that all these theories are
2:20:40fucking dumb.
2:20:41So, so just to qualify this, so there is
2:20:45a possibility in the next few months
2:20:46that you may come out and say, "Guys,
2:20:48it's done. Tyler killed him." So, you're
2:20:49saying yes to important for the audience
2:20:52that for me without question for you. Is
2:20:54there anything that you could see for
2:20:55you to say, "Yeah, this guy was a pass."
2:20:57>> I'm going to always follow evidence. So,
2:21:00my my whole thing is just this. It's
2:21:02it's really important to me. I don't
2:21:04mind people being truth seekers.
2:21:08This is a pre-trial to rule out stuff.
2:21:10Pack. Nope. That's not how pre-trial
2:21:13works.
2:21:16We the rebel says, "Do we have any
2:21:17evidence of any alternative alternative
2:21:19theory?" No.
2:21:22Zero evidence. There is zero evidence. A
2:21:27question, an intuition, a gut feeling, a
2:21:29distrust, those are not evidence. People
2:21:31have those in droves. They're welcome
2:21:34to. They can't produce any evidence. You
2:21:37know why? Because they gave all the
2:21:38evidence away when they put the SUV that
2:21:42Charlie was rushed to the hospital in.
2:21:44They they gave it they sold it. They re,
2:21:47you know, cleaned it out and sold it.
2:21:49Okay.
2:21:52That wasn't where he was shot. It wasn't
2:21:54where he was killed. Wasn't how he was
2:21:56killed. There's no evidence supporting
2:21:58any of that. Well, yeah, his security
2:22:01team shoved the bullet in his neck.
2:22:02Nope.
2:22:04I know with certainty that didn't happen
2:22:07100%.
2:22:09>> And justice searchers and the internet
2:22:11has
2:22:12>> Here's the crazy thing I'm going to I'm
2:22:14going to do. Shenshin, blurred images
2:22:16aren't evidence either. Blurred images
2:22:19are evidence in the overwhelming
2:22:21majority of trials that involve images.
2:22:25Blurred images are absolutely
2:22:28evidence.
2:22:30blurring of an or the blurriness of an
2:22:33image doesn't make it non-evidentiary.
2:22:36Does an image make any fact relevant to
2:22:42the case more or less likely to be true.
2:22:47If so, evidence. Blurred images are
2:22:51evidence. They're not always the
2:22:53strongest evidence. They're not proof.
2:22:55You guys need help with this. You don't
2:22:59understand the difference between
2:23:01evidence which is something to support
2:23:04some factual assertion or to negate or
2:23:07to uh unsupport some factual assertion.
2:23:10Maybe you say some factual assertion or
2:23:12it's converse.
2:23:14Proof is when everything lines up and
2:23:18proves a factual assertion not supports
2:23:22it. You guys want evidence to be proof
2:23:25individually. You want evidence uh like
2:23:29you want the video on the roof to exist
2:23:32in a vacuum and be 4K close-up footage
2:23:36of Tyler Robinson's asshole puckering up
2:23:39as he takes a shot. Everybody wants
2:23:43that, but that's never around. It never
2:23:47happens.
2:23:48We all want that. It's getting closer
2:23:51because there's cameras everywhere. I
2:23:52don't think that's better, but everybody
2:23:54wants that. Yeah, of course we would
2:23:56want it. But you don't have it. You have
2:23:58a grainy far away security cam because
2:24:01that's reality. But what you also have
2:24:04are a bunch of other cameras and you
2:24:06have his gun 250 miles away. Why is it
2:24:11there? He's there. His gun's there.
2:24:14You're saying someone else brought it.
2:24:16How'd it get there? And just explain it
2:24:18to me. Give me any reason to believe
2:24:21you. But you can't. All you can say is,
2:24:25"Well, the feds would have known, would
2:24:27have grabbed the gun and would have
2:24:28planted it." Oh, and no one would have
2:24:30noticed.
2:24:32Okay. Why is the gun there? Why is the
2:24:35gun 250 miles away from his apartment?
2:24:38And and why is he also there?
2:24:41Just how?
2:24:44Well, the feds would the feds wouldn't
2:24:46have also because every day the feds
2:24:49don't do that. It doesn't mean they did
2:24:52or didn't do anything on this day, but
2:24:53every day they don't do that.
2:24:56So, why did they do that? Show me where
2:24:58they did. Give me evidence.
2:25:01Brian Fitch says, "I'm retarded and
2:25:03couldn't figure out super chat for my
2:25:05last question." Oh, thank you for the
2:25:07massive super. You figured it out now.
2:25:09Wilson is logical. I simply think he
2:25:11walked into a trap. That's Lance Twigs.
2:25:14Grease pig. She'll always obuscate and
2:25:16use conjecture. marginal chance to walk
2:25:18out well perceptively a legal debate
2:25:21without legal logic. You can't Someone
2:25:23was like, "Uh, I wish you were debating
2:25:25Candace." Why? Like, what good would it
2:25:27do? I I'm I'm going to sit there and
2:25:29explain to her DNA on the fly. Like, I
2:25:31could do it. She won't understand.
2:25:34She won't understand. This bitch could
2:25:36take a chemistry class and not get it by
2:25:39the end. Like, she she'd be like, "Why
2:25:40am I I don't I'm not good at biology."
2:25:43She doesn't know how to learn. We the
2:25:47rabble says, "Was there a grassy null
2:25:50nearby?" Yes. All it was was a grassy
2:25:52bowl actually to help solve tons of
2:25:55crimes. There's no if ends or buts about
2:25:57that, right? However, there's also
2:26:00people who, you know, they they not only
2:26:02don't solve crimes, but they just come
2:26:04up with conjecture and they what's
2:26:06called flooding the zone. You flood the
2:26:07zone with tons and tons of conspiracy
2:26:09based ideas and they go nowhere, right?
2:26:11They and in fact they actually take away
2:26:14from a legitimate investigation. Now I'm
2:26:17not even saying anybody here's purposely
2:26:20Yeah. They want they want every every
2:26:24single intuition. They want every single
2:26:27thought that any of these people have.
2:26:29They want them investigated fully for
2:26:30all time before prosecution even starts.
2:26:32They're like, "How could you prosecute
2:26:34this fast?" I'll tell you how they can
2:26:36prosecute this fast. He turned himself
2:26:37in with nine admissions. This
2:26:40motherfucker is done. This isn't close.
2:26:44His statements are coming in.
2:26:47The defense isn't going to argue that
2:26:49they were faked.
2:26:51They're coming in. Defense has no facts
2:26:55to support it being faked.
2:26:59And they want those statements because
2:27:01those statements mitigate the death
2:27:03penalty. There is only hope. like Luke
2:27:07Skywalker or Ben Kenobi
2:27:09>> flooding the zone. That's not even the
2:27:10claim. All I'm saying is is that the
2:27:13claims made absent
2:27:16absent. Oh, uh this is just me not being
2:27:19convinced by the state's evidence. Those
2:27:21become claims and claims have to be
2:27:23defended just like mine have to be
2:27:25defended.
2:27:29Soccer 311.
2:27:34Sorry. I've hunted all my life.
2:27:37Wonderful. I cannot see how that gun
2:27:39could possibly have done so little
2:27:40damage. Do did you read the medical
2:27:43examiner's report of what happened to
2:27:46Charlie Kirk? It's just impossible.
2:27:48You're right. You are 100% right.
2:27:54That gun didn't do little damage.
2:27:58I respect Candace for trying to find the
2:28:00truth. Candace is not interested in the
2:28:02truth. She has zero interest in it. She
2:28:04rejects any evidence that doesn't go
2:28:06with her preconceived
2:28:09conclusion. That's not seeking the
2:28:11truth. That's proof text. This guy is
2:28:15obviously a fraud. Who's this guy? Me or
2:28:17Andrew Wilson? I'm not a I'm probably
2:28:20If you believe that there was little
2:28:22damage done,
2:28:25you're wrong.
2:28:27five shattered vertebrae, 6 in section
2:28:30of his spinal cord completely
2:28:32obliterated. Brain hemorrhaging at the
2:28:34cerebral stem and up top you have uh
2:28:38hemorrhaging around the heart as the
2:28:41veins and arteries that attach the
2:28:43aortic valve were like basically ripped
2:28:46off of the heart. the lungs exploded and
2:28:50had uh hemoththorax, pneumothorax, which
2:28:53is both oxygen and blood on the outside
2:28:56of the lungs causing them to collapse.
2:28:58He had damage all the way down into his
2:29:01mid torso,
2:29:04minimal damage that s so little damage
2:29:08was catastrophic. He died almost
2:29:10instantly.
2:29:11He was paralyzed instantly and he would
2:29:15have died
2:29:18in under a minute.
2:29:26If anybody told you that the damage done
2:29:29to Charlie Kirk by that bullet was
2:29:31little, they lied. The medical
2:29:33examiner's report thoroughly explained
2:29:36this. And there's more to it. There will
2:29:38be more of the report when it's fully
2:29:40released. But the the parts that we've
2:29:43gotten in the prosecution's motion show
2:29:46massive amounts of damage.
2:29:49The same people
2:29:52who insist that it would have done more
2:29:54damage then say it couldn't have done
2:29:56that damage. They don't they don't
2:29:58understand anything any any ballistics.
2:30:01They're not ballistics experts by the
2:30:02way. Just because someone is good with
2:30:05guns, knows guns, that doesn't make them
2:30:08ballistics expert. Ballistics is a very
2:30:10specific science. Ballistics experts may
2:30:12have never fired a gun in their life.
2:30:13Look at a lot of them that they study
2:30:16what happens to a bullet when it comes
2:30:19into contact with different mediums.
2:30:22Air, water, a wall, a person, drywall,
2:30:26whatever.
2:30:28That's how that they study the physics
2:30:29of that
2:30:31and they try and they piece together
2:30:33what happened, angles of shots, you
2:30:36know, all that stuff. They may have
2:30:37never fired a gun in their life. We the
2:30:39Rabbel says, "Son, this blurry photo
2:30:42looks like you. Was it you?" Yes.
2:30:44Candace Owens innocent.
2:30:48>> Yours have to be defended. And that's
2:30:50what we're going to get to now. Yeah.
2:30:52>> You want to get into it?
2:30:53>> Would you guys like to take a ad break?
2:30:55Take an ad break and then we'll talk to
2:30:57mock and the conspiracies that have been
2:31:00conjectured by Candace Owens in regards
2:31:02to this case and Charlie. We'll take a
2:31:05three and a half minute break and we'll
2:31:07be back soon.
2:31:09>> Is updates collapsed and exploded? So
2:31:12like uh the blood is forced out of the
2:31:15lung like blood and air is forced out of
2:31:18the lung through holes. Uh the pressure
2:31:21put on the lung causes um you can see
2:31:24that pneumothorax happens in this way in
2:31:27other circumstances too. Basically it it
2:31:30kind of like pops little holes in there
2:31:32and then air comes out. Well, if it's
2:31:35enough force, it's not just air. It's
2:31:38also blood. And then that's
2:31:39hemoththorax. And that's on the outside.
2:31:42Blood on the outside of the lung, which
2:31:44puts pressure on it. So, it comes out
2:31:46through little holes, but then the
2:31:48pressure between your other tissue and
2:31:50this new substance there causes the lung
2:31:52to collapse inward. And I just said
2:31:54inward. Jacqueline Brennan says, "She's
2:31:56so evil. I can feel how I want, but EK
2:32:00can't.
2:32:04Yeah, Erica Kirk's not allowed to have
2:32:06any emo any emotions or feelings about
2:32:08her husband in any way.
2:32:10>> All right, you guys, you have probably
2:32:11seen all the buzz around.
2:32:20>> We have a merch. We can drive down.
2:32:28>> Oh, not you again. KPG says no blood on
2:32:32stage. Yes, there was.
2:32:35What? There was blood on the grass. I
2:32:37should say there's blood on the grass.
2:32:39Actually, there was blood on the
2:32:40concrete, too.
2:32:43Why do you say there's no blood? They
2:32:45literally had a cleanup team. The text
2:32:47messages between the cleanup team and
2:32:49UVU administration are there about
2:32:52specifically cleaning up certain spots
2:32:55with blood. Like, what are you talking
2:32:58about? There's no blood. Of course there
2:33:00was.
2:33:19Trying to fast forward here.
2:33:25Oh my gosh. How long is this fucking
2:33:27break?
2:33:31>> Uh, Andrew, before we go into the other
2:33:33issues you want to talk about, is it
2:33:35fair to say you're good defending your
2:33:36position of the overwhelming evidence?
2:33:39>> Yeah. Okay, beautiful. You take the
2:33:41lead. Go for it.
2:33:42>> Yeah. So,
2:33:45hose down the stage because tomorrow
2:33:47it's going to be paved. Remember, they
2:33:48they didn't quite know it was going to
2:33:50be paved yet. Remember, it's all a it's
2:33:52a secret conspiracy between the feds and
2:33:54the governor's office. They didn't tell
2:33:56anybody that it was going to be paved.
2:33:57They don't know who did it and all that
2:33:59stuff, right? Remember all that. But
2:34:01yeah, they started washing it. There's
2:34:04messages between them. He's like, "The
2:34:07best way to get rid of blood is add a
2:34:08whole bunch of water." And then like,
2:34:11"Oh, it turns out the pavers are
2:34:12coming."
2:34:14There again, 48 hours after the scene
2:34:17was cleared. It was cleared. They'd
2:34:19gathered the evidence. What do you think
2:34:22they were going to find? I know your
2:34:24answer.
2:34:27Glenn Everett sent a thousand jewels.
2:34:30Thank you so much. Captain Tiberia says,
2:34:32"How much did the three of the 300K did
2:34:35Owens invest in chat bots?" Honey, I
2:34:38know your answer. You guys think they
2:34:40were going to find explosive residue and
2:34:43more pieces of a road microphone showing
2:34:46the Jews involvement, but they just
2:34:49excavated the grass. They looked in the
2:34:52grass for all that stuff.
2:34:55You don't want to say it because you
2:34:56realize how dumb it sounds.
2:34:59You realize that that didn't happen.
2:35:02So yeah, we know. We know that's what
2:35:06you think they were going to find.
2:35:08What else do you think it would be?
2:35:13Wait, who's it? Frey Phantom says,
2:35:17"Wait, no, no, no." Patty Leather says,
2:35:19"Candice didn't get the money. She paid
2:35:21it." Nope. What are you talking about?
2:35:30Uh, Mango Lloyd says, "Andrew needs
2:35:32fellow degenerates to have his back." I
2:35:34don't have his back.
2:35:37I don't have Andrew's back. What are you
2:35:39talking about? Like, my my side aligns
2:35:42more with him, but I don't care if he
2:35:44wins or loses his debate because it's
2:35:46pointless.
2:35:48I have a bunch of questions for you and
2:35:51I want to make it super painless, right?
2:35:53So,
2:35:55Shenshen, first of all, you've never
2:35:57seen a paid shill like me, but second,
2:36:00where's your evidence that any of them
2:36:02are paid? How much? Who paid them? Show
2:36:05it. Glenn Everett became a YouTube
2:36:07member. Thank you, Glenn. Everett, go
2:36:10for Everett. Uh, we the rabble says,
2:36:12"Charlie Kirk bought his mics
2:36:14exclusively from Palestine.
2:36:18Jibber says, "Nick is just anti- Candice
2:36:20at this point." No, I'm anti- retard.
2:36:22Like, she's retarded.
2:36:25Cannot reason her way out of a bag.
2:36:29Pro-engineer says all these conspiracies
2:36:31are retarded. Road is Australian. But
2:36:33Road was founded by a former IDF member
2:36:36and staffed by IDF agents in Australia.
2:36:41Keep up.
2:36:43>> Uh, no traps, no gotchas. I'm just going
2:36:45to ask them direct. And I think that as
2:36:48long as they're not loaded, if they're
2:36:49loaded, you should not respond yes or
2:36:51no. But as long as they're not loaded,
2:36:52if I just directly ask them.
2:36:54>> Oh, wait. You're right on that. I'm
2:36:56right on all of this. I'm like, what are
2:36:58you talking about questions that I have?
2:36:59>> Wait, wait. Before we get into that, I
2:37:00would like to just reply to that. So,
2:37:02just to be clear, we agreed to debate
2:37:04our claims and then I agreed publicly
2:37:07that I have no issues having a
2:37:08conversation with you about other things
2:37:10that I've discussed that were outside of
2:37:12the court hearing and things like other
2:37:14evidence that's come across our lap and
2:37:15things that we've been speaking about.
2:37:17But I just do want to make it clear to
2:37:18viewers that
2:37:22it comes down to who pulled the trigger.
2:37:24Tyler Robinson.
2:37:26Tyler Robinson is the guy who pulled the
2:37:28trigger. Tyler Robinson. We have a bunch
2:37:31of evidence that Tyler Robinson pulled
2:37:33the trigger. We have zero evidence that
2:37:35anybody else pulled the trigger. None.
2:37:38Tyler Robinson is the one who pulled the
2:37:40trigger as far as we know with the
2:37:42evidence. Could evidence feasibly exist
2:37:45and come out? Sure. But it doesn't
2:37:49because Tyler Robinson is the guy that
2:37:50pulled the trigger.
2:37:54Usually when someone confesses to a
2:37:56crime and admits to admits to doing a
2:37:59thing that gets them put in prison
2:38:00forever and maybe killed a lot of times
2:38:03you can you can believe them until you
2:38:06have some reason to believe otherwise.
2:38:07What reason do you have to disbelieve
2:38:09Tyler Robinson?
2:38:11Uh we the rabble says you can't beat
2:38:14anti-above 60 IQ and not anti-Canada at
2:38:17the same time.
2:38:21you for whatever reason you think that
2:38:23you have a right to sort of depose me.
2:38:26>> I'm not deposing you. I just want to ask
2:38:27you.
2:38:29>> She says legal terms that she doesn't
2:38:31understand. Andrew Wilson used a debate
2:38:34term that also is a legal term, which is
2:38:37cross-examination. He says, "I want to
2:38:38cross-examine you. I want to ask you
2:38:40about your claims." She's like, "What
2:38:42what makes you think you have the right
2:38:43to depose me?" That was in the agreement
2:38:45you guys had.
2:38:46>> Literally said that I want to be able to
2:38:48question. This is a meta meta
2:38:50conversation.
2:38:51>> But okay, so now we're transcending like
2:38:53let's use a word to use a word that
2:38:56>> Thank you. There's nothing transcendent
2:38:58about it. You're not transcending. A
2:39:01meta conversation is the opposite of
2:39:03transcending. Transcending is to move
2:39:05beyond something. A meta conversation is
2:39:08to converse about the thing that you're
2:39:10conversing about. That's going inward.
2:39:13This inward doesn't know that it's
2:39:15inward versus outward.
2:39:18But this is but this is what you're
2:39:19doing, right? So this this part to me
2:39:21feels like a bit of
2:39:22>> Am I allowed to ask the questions?
2:39:23>> I'm going I've already said you can ask
2:39:26questions, but I made it very clear to
2:39:27you
2:39:28>> via email and with you in conversation
2:39:32>> that
2:39:32>> we should be speaking. This isn't like
2:39:36said if you want to depose me, you
2:39:37should join
2:39:39defense.
2:39:40>> Yeah, she's she's not being deposed. And
2:39:42by the way, she's the one who said
2:39:44earlier she prefers discussions to
2:39:46debates. He's like, "Well, I want to ask
2:39:48you some questions." It's like, "We
2:39:50shouldn't be having a discussion.
2:39:52Earlier you said you wanted to do a
2:39:54discussion, not a debate, and you were
2:39:55invited to a discussion. What is it?"
2:39:58But you're like, "This is a legitimate.
2:40:00Can you answer it?" Blah, blah, blah.
2:40:01It's like I don't know what you're going
2:40:02to ask. I'm going to answer issues with
2:40:05it because I'm not
2:40:08usually in debate.
2:40:10I'm just directly because you kept
2:40:11saying, "I'm Joe Rogan. They have no
2:40:12evidence. They have no evidence." And
2:40:13now you're like, "Let's move away from
2:40:14the evidence."
2:40:15They don't have evidence. Where is it?
2:40:17You've had hours now to produce any
2:40:20transend.
2:40:20>> They actually Yeah. Okay. Anyway, so
2:40:23direct question, super easy. Was Lance
2:40:25Twig's DNA on the rifle as far as you
2:40:27know?
2:40:27>> We can't say that for for certainty.
2:40:29>> As far as you know,
2:40:30>> I already
2:40:31>> We can say to a reasonable degree of
2:40:33scientific certainty that Lance Twig's
2:40:35DNA is not on the rifle. She doesn't
2:40:39know. She doesn't know because she does
2:40:42not change her mind. It's not a thing
2:40:44that she can do. I'm telling you, she's
2:40:48legitimately
2:40:49neurologically incapable of changing her
2:40:52mind. Her opinion might be different one
2:40:55moment to the next, but she's not
2:40:57changing it. She's not taking in
2:40:59information and processing it and coming
2:41:01to a new conclusion. She can't She
2:41:03couldn't conclude that thunder came from
2:41:06lightning. Her husband told her and now
2:41:09she has just known it. She knows it. She
2:41:12doesn't know, by the way, that thunder
2:41:14comes from lightning.
2:41:18Her husband told her thunder comes from
2:41:20lightning, so thunder comes from
2:41:21lightning. Now, thunder does come as a
2:41:24result of lightning.
2:41:28Lightning is my nickname. Thunder does
2:41:30come as a result of lightning. Yes, but
2:41:32she can't tell you why. She doesn't
2:41:34know.
2:41:36She doesn't know it. She didn't change
2:41:38her mind. She thought one way, now she
2:41:41thinks a different way because her
2:41:44husband told her she was wrong. Not
2:41:47because she reasoned into the right
2:41:49answer, not because anybody helped her
2:41:51do it.
2:41:53We the rabble says goldfish 8 second
2:41:56memory. It's not even that. Trust me,
2:41:58I've
2:42:03I knew a person very very well whose
2:42:06brain works just like this. Still to
2:42:09this day, observable, it works like
2:42:11this. They don't know that they do this.
2:42:15They don't know.
2:42:17They have no idea.
2:42:22ACS drafting says the EVIDENCE WILL SHOW
2:42:24THAT no amount of evidence will satiate
2:42:26the bots. They just they just reject
2:42:29evidence because they don't understand
2:42:30the definition. Candace isn't the same
2:42:33as like some people reject evidence and
2:42:36stuff. Candace is not it's not her
2:42:37fault.
2:42:39Yeah, it was you, Nick. No, it isn't. I
2:42:42mean, the rabbel says lightning is your
2:42:44wife's nickname for you. You shut your
2:42:47mouth, you bastard.
2:42:54No, the people Candace is in a special
2:42:58category and it's it's masked because a
2:43:01lot of times they have some sort of
2:43:03charisma. No skill like notice
2:43:07the other person I'm talking about is
2:43:09very similar. Candace doesn't have any
2:43:11discernable skill, talent, experience,
2:43:14education. What does she do? She talks
2:43:18about stuff
2:43:20fearlessly, but she doesn't talk
2:43:22fearlessly. She's incapable of fear
2:43:25because she's always believed what she
2:43:27believes. It's just correct because she
2:43:30said it, because she thinks it. It's
2:43:32always that way. Can they attract an
2:43:35audience? Sometimes
2:43:37huge audience in Candace's case. There's
2:43:39some other factors involved like her
2:43:41ability to or her access to all sorts of
2:43:45things based on things. But what talent,
2:43:48what knowledge, what skill does she
2:43:51have? What thing did she work for and
2:43:54achieve?
2:43:56What special insight does she have? All
2:43:58she could do is just ask questions.
2:44:01They don't even have to be smart
2:44:02questions about everything. Well, I ask
2:44:04questions about everything. People who
2:44:06ask questions about everything are dumb.
2:44:08They don't know the answers to anything.
2:44:11Pro-engineer says knowing is not
2:44:13thinking. She doesn't think. She just
2:44:15knows because she was told so. She lacks
2:44:17the ability to think critically. Yeah.
2:44:19She literally can't go from one step to
2:44:21the next. She doesn't know. This bitch
2:44:23probably can't even do a Legos like do a
2:44:26set of Legos
2:44:27because it goes from one step one to
2:44:29step two. And she go, "Well, there's
2:44:31step one. I What's next?" It's like step
2:44:34two. Well, how do I get to that? I don't
2:44:36have that. I just have the first pieces.
2:44:38You got to put them together. What do
2:44:39you mean you got to put them together?
2:44:41You wouldn't get it. DXmania says, "The
2:44:43Thunder Lightning comment isn't even the
2:44:45craziest thing she's ever said." No,
2:44:46it's just it's illustrative of
2:44:48something. She is the pattern
2:44:50recognizer. She's the noticer of things.
2:44:53Noticer of Jews and other stuff by
2:44:56pattern. She didn't recognize the
2:44:58pattern of light flash.
2:45:02Every time,
2:45:03all of the times, she never noticed.
2:45:06It's 35 years of living through that.
2:45:09She didn't get it. She also said the
2:45:11only problem with Hitler was he wanted
2:45:12to make the world German. She had to
2:45:14explain later that she didn't mean it.
2:45:16She can't she can't mean something
2:45:18because she she doesn't reason it once
2:45:22she learned because someone told her
2:45:24someone's like that's bad Candace you're
2:45:26going to get fucked. She's like I don't
2:45:28believe that.
2:45:28>> Answer that in the first part. We can't
2:45:30say that for certainty. I told you the
2:45:31context of which they spoke about those
2:45:33things. So, no. As far as you know,
2:45:35>> we can't say that for certainty until we
2:45:37know what other the five
2:45:39>> sets of prints were on.
2:45:40>> So, that would be
2:45:41>> No, no, no. Stop it. Lance Twigs is not
2:45:45a contributor. They ruled him out. They
2:45:47have exclusionary DNA sample and they
2:45:51ran it and he is not a contributor. Not
2:45:54He's not on the gun. People miss this
2:45:57because people like Candace just refuse
2:46:00to accept it. We can't know that. We do
2:46:05to a reasonable degree of scientific
2:46:06certainty. And this is the difference
2:46:08between where I live and where these
2:46:11people live.
2:46:15An expert testifying to something to a
2:46:18reasonable degree of scientific
2:46:19certainty uncontroverted means you have
2:46:22scientific evidence of a thing.
2:46:25To a reasonable degree of scientific
2:46:27certainty means to follow the accepted
2:46:31standard of care and manner of practice
2:46:33to do a thing that has been tested and
2:46:37adopted by the courts as reliable
2:46:40because it produces consistent
2:46:42scientific reliable result. If you put
2:46:45in A, B, and C every time you're going
2:46:48to get something close to D, like really
2:46:50close, a reasonable degree of scientific
2:46:53certainty.
2:46:55That's what it means. We know with a
2:46:58reasonable degree of scientific
2:46:59certainty, which is the forensic expert
2:47:02standard
2:47:04for presenting evidence in court as a
2:47:06forensic expert. We know that Lance
2:47:08Twigs' DNA is not on that rifle.
2:47:11We know that anywhere.
2:47:14No. As far as you know,
2:47:16>> we can't say that for certainty.
2:47:17>> You can say no as far as I know for
2:47:19certain.
2:47:20>> Uh, we can't say that for certain. I can
2:47:22say that for certainty. If you're here
2:47:25to be like you're my dad and you can
2:47:27tell me how to speak or what I'm
2:47:28supposed to say, you're you're you're
2:47:29just going to comp against the wall. I
2:47:31I'm familiar with this debate strategy.
2:47:33Yes. Yes or no? Yes or no? We're not
2:47:34debating it.
2:47:37>> How do we know? Because they testified
2:47:39to a reasonable degree of scientific
2:47:41certainty with the methodology they used
2:47:43at pre at the preliminary hearing.
2:47:45There's a report. The defense has a
2:47:47report. They had the opportunity to
2:47:48challenge this. They had the opportunity
2:47:50to cross-examine and challenge it. And
2:47:51Lance Twigs isn't the contributor. Also,
2:47:53Lance has used immunity and isn't even a
2:47:56suspect. Stop with the Lance Twigs DNA
2:47:58on the rifle. It's not there.
2:48:01That entire idea that Lance Twigs's DNA
2:48:04on the rifle was explained.
2:48:07The preliminary hearing by the person
2:48:09who did the test, they said they did the
2:48:11test, another person did the test, and
2:48:14out of an abundance of caution before
2:48:16they could exclude Lance, they included
2:48:18him as a potential contributor.
2:48:22a potential contributor.
2:48:24And then he provided a sample and they
2:48:26went, "We tested it. He's not a
2:48:28potential contributor anymore." Done.
2:48:31Done. That's it. No more lands. He's
2:48:35gone.
2:48:36You don't have to worry about it. It
2:48:38happened
2:48:40>> anymore. We're having a conversation.
2:48:41So, I already addressed that in the
2:48:43first half of this about why
2:48:45>> No, we're still definitely debating.
2:48:46This is still
2:48:48>> No, it's not a debate.
2:48:50You saying, "I want to probe things."
2:48:51>> Oh my god. Shismatic.
2:48:54Most degraded does not mean least
2:48:57present. Tyler's DNA is the most present
2:49:02by a factor of nine or more.
2:49:08It's not even close.
2:49:13It's not even close. You don't
2:49:15understand what degradation is.
2:49:17Degradation is the breakdown of alals.
2:49:19But if you have more alals because you
2:49:22have a better sample, then you can have
2:49:25more degradation and still have a better
2:49:27sample.
2:49:30She testified to this.
2:49:34He is the primary contributor of 85 to
2:49:3793% of the DNA.
2:49:40What are we talking about? I know what
2:49:42I'm talking about. You don't
2:49:46>> sit outside of the evidence. I actually
2:49:48already addressed this. You asked me.
2:49:50>> You're not gonna go like where you're
2:49:52you're you're sitting and I'm on
2:49:53>> Hey, Kine one, don't worry about
2:49:55fingerprints. Don't worry about
2:49:57fingerprints. You know why? There's no
2:49:59testimony as to fingerprints. Candace
2:50:01Owens is saying fingerprints. She means
2:50:03DNA. But she is retarded.
2:50:07She's wrong. She doesn't know. She does
2:50:10not understand. She may not even
2:50:12understand those two things are
2:50:13different. She says Prince, Prince,
2:50:14Prince. There's no testimony at the
2:50:17preliminary hearing about Prince.
2:50:19There's testimony about DNA. That's what
2:50:22we're talking about, not Prince. She
2:50:24says Prince, she says five contributors.
2:50:26There aren't five contributors to
2:50:28Prince. You can't have five contributo
2:50:31prints on uh on a trigger. There's not
2:50:35enough room to get a meaning like the a
2:50:38print on another print is really hard.
2:50:42Five prints. We're not on top of each
2:50:45other on a trigger. That's not the
2:50:46thing. It's DNA. DNA. DNA. DNA. She is
2:50:49wrong. Stop listening to Candace Owens
2:50:52tell you WHAT HAPPENED. SHE'S WRONG
2:50:54ABOUT IT.
2:50:56Just check. Ask Chat GPT. Ask Croc. GO
2:50:59READ THE DOCUMENTS. Go read the
2:51:00transcripts. Go watch the video. Ask
2:51:02Andrea Birkhart. Don't even listen to
2:51:04me. Ask somebody smarter. They're I'm
2:51:07right, but other people are right for
2:51:09better reasons. Don't take my word for
2:51:12it. Candace is like, "Don't take
2:51:13anybody's word for it but mine." Candace
2:51:15doesn't know.
2:51:18But no, don't worry. I'm not. Sorry, I'm
2:51:19not yelling at you. I'm yelling at other
2:51:21people. Candace talked about Prince.
2:51:23She's wrong. There's no testimony about
2:51:26the prince.
2:51:30Glenn Everett says she built her brand
2:51:32on facts over feelings, then flipped the
2:51:35second Kirk D. She doesn't know about
2:51:37facts. Her and her nut job followers
2:51:39went full feelings over facts. Debate
2:51:42proved it. Dodge DNA and confessions.
2:51:44Still called Robinson a pency. She's a
2:51:45chameleon. Someone described her as a
2:51:47chameleon years ago. 100% correct.
2:51:53Jacqueline Brennan says, "Who's watching
2:51:54all her kids while her and her producer
2:51:57husband create this slop every day?"
2:51:59Listen, they have a ton of money. They
2:52:00can easily have uh assistant staff. I I
2:52:03I never like to get into that. I don't
2:52:05accuse people of not watching their kids
2:52:07without evidence.
2:52:09Uh maybe maybe I have reasons for that.
2:52:12Saying Erica Kirk is neglecting her kids
2:52:13because she works a few days, which is
2:52:15retarded. Of course, parents work.
2:52:17That's not neglecting children.
2:52:20Uh John Gelain says, "Without a
2:52:21blockchain of custody, how can a sample
2:52:24be taken seriously from being a source
2:52:25to presented evidence?
2:52:29What are we?
2:52:30I think you're joking.
2:52:47Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Mr. Mike, Mr. Mike,
2:52:50notice what you're missing. There's no
2:52:52DNA on the rifle from Lance Twigs.
2:52:56The towel and the screwdriver. Yes,
2:52:58those have Lance Twigs DNA on them, not
2:53:00the rifle.
2:53:02He was excluded. Again, this is all
2:53:05covered in test. I'm not I'm not going
2:53:06to do this. I'm not going to do this.
2:53:07Not going to do this.
2:53:09>> I'm not on trial.
2:53:10>> Okay, great. Can we have a conversation?
2:53:12Let's talk about Let's talk about the
2:53:14Foreign Legion.
2:53:15>> Sure.
2:53:16>> Was the Foreign Legion do you believe
2:53:17trying to kill you?
2:53:18>> Yes. That's why I reported it to the
2:53:21correct officials in government. That's
2:53:23what I was.
2:53:26Who's the correct offici? Candace Owens
2:53:28knows the correct officials in
2:53:29government to report the French Foreign
2:53:31Legion's
2:53:33involvement in Charlie Kirk's murder.
2:53:35Can you imagine? Can you imagine? You're
2:53:38in the F FBI field office somewhere.
2:53:42You're like, "All right, I just got my
2:53:43coffee. It's black like my boyfriend and
2:53:47I'm going to sit down and get this day
2:53:49started." And you get a phone call from
2:53:51this fucking lunatic. He's like, "I know
2:53:55that the French Foreign Legion was
2:53:57involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk."
2:54:03Oh,
2:54:06do you?
2:54:11Huh?
2:54:17>> And I handed over that information to
2:54:19Tulsi Gabbert's office.
2:54:21>> What's your best
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2:54:37>> Piece of evidence for that.
2:54:39>> Well, it was
2:54:40>> positive evidence.
2:54:42>> It was told to me.
2:54:45>> It was told to me. I went and reported
2:54:49immediately to Tulsi Gabbard. It was
2:54:52told to me.
2:54:56Was it while you were grabbing onto
2:54:58Burgie Mcronone's dick and swinging her
2:55:00around like a lasso? Are you fucking
2:55:03kidding me? Do you have any positive
2:55:05evidence of that was told to me?
2:55:10By whom? Where? In what context? What
2:55:13was told to you? What is it? by somebody
2:55:16who is high up in the French government.
2:55:18I passed off that information.
2:55:22>> Who? How high up in the French
2:55:24government?
2:55:25Higher than Breijit's tape job
2:55:28>> to Tulsi Gabbard's office. I also passed
2:55:30it off to Trump's office, Donald Trump's
2:55:32office.
2:55:32>> Um, and that's all I can tell you. I I
2:55:34wouldn't be able to probe any evidence
2:55:36because I don't have the power to do
2:55:37that. I'm not the federal government.
2:55:38And I would also like to say that this
2:55:40becomes this this other piece.
2:55:41>> Mr. Mike, Mr. Mike, thank you. Sorry.
2:55:43Sorry. I thought you were I thought we
2:55:45were having a miscommunication. Turns
2:55:46out we communicate. You didn't include
2:55:48any bikinis in that communication.
2:55:50That's why I didn't notice what you were
2:55:52doing.
2:55:54Uh Ashelon has raided the stream.
2:55:57Welcome to Ashelon over on Rumble. Thank
2:55:59you to you guys and uh uh who have been
2:56:03watching. Ashelon, welcome. We're
2:56:04talking we're talking about the smartest
2:56:06woman on the block. So, Mr. Mike
2:56:09provided some data. Uh this courtesy of
2:56:12the Washington Examiner talking about
2:56:14the preliminary hearing in the DNA. The
2:56:16towel wrapped around the rifle had the
2:56:18following results. DNA mixture was
2:56:19attributed approximately 95% to Tyler
2:56:22Robinson. 5% to Lance Twigs. The
2:56:24screwdriver found at the scene DNA
2:56:26profile matched approximately. So we
2:56:28know who was the top. The top was Tyler
2:56:30Robinson. Big surprise actually. The
2:56:33screwdriver. The DNA profile matched
2:56:35approximately 89%
2:56:37of Tyler Robinson and 11% to Lance
2:56:40Twigs. Now again, Lance's DNA was not
2:56:43found on the rifle
2:56:45>> piece of what you do, which is when
2:56:47people say this, I was told this and
2:56:49this is the evidence that I have and I'm
2:56:51willing to have that conversation and
2:56:52write the email to the correct
2:56:54government body that deals with this. I
2:56:56can't hack into Emanuel Mcronone's bank
2:56:59accounts and say whether
2:57:04Hold on.
2:57:07Who raised Emanuel Mcronone's bank
2:57:09account?
2:57:12Who did that?
2:57:17this woman
2:57:20earlier in the debate. If you'll
2:57:22remember,
2:57:27if you'll remember,
2:57:29this woman
2:57:32said it was weird,
2:57:35very strange for Benjamin Netanyahu
2:57:38to say Israel didn't have any
2:57:41involvement in killing Charlie Kirk. Out
2:57:43of the blue. Out of the blue. She says
2:57:45out of the blue. I don't know. I'm
2:57:46taking her at her word for that because
2:57:48I don't care. She's like, "That's really
2:57:50weird. Now I know the Jews did it." Out
2:57:53of the blue, she's like, "I can't hack
2:57:55into Emanuel Mcronone's bank account.
2:57:59You can't? Are you sure?"
2:58:04It's weird for you to say that out of
2:58:05the blue. I didn't I didn't Andrew
2:58:08didn't accuse you of that.
2:58:14are not the information. But then you
2:58:17go, "Well, where's your evidence?" It's
2:58:18like, "Well, my evidence is that I I
2:58:19reported it. I did the right thing that
2:58:20you're going to do." So, if somebody
2:58:21calls and says, "Hey, Andrew, there's a
2:58:22viable death threat against you." And
2:58:24that person definitively has the rank to
2:58:27be able to tell you this. And you say,
2:58:28"Well, what I'm going to do now is I'm
2:58:30going to report that to the feds." Then
2:58:31I go, "What's your evidence?" It's like,
2:58:32"Well, I got the information and I gave
2:58:34the information that I got from who I
2:58:36got it to the right body of people."
2:58:39>> You know who's going to ask you what
2:58:40your evidence is? The feds.
2:58:44Otherwise, you're wasting their time.
2:58:45The French Foreign Legion was involved
2:58:46in the death of Charlie Kirk. How do you
2:58:48know? Somebody told me who I can't tell
2:58:52you or I'd have to kill you.
2:58:56Oh, okay.
2:58:58Lady, call 988 and then wait for them to
2:59:01show up.
2:59:01>> So, I did.
2:59:02>> Got it. I just I just want to make sure.
2:59:04I'm not trying to trap you. I just want
2:59:05to make sure I got it clear.
2:59:06>> And that's why I say I want to know what
2:59:08you're doing now because this has always
2:59:09been the thing. It's like we actually
2:59:10can't win on the overwhelming claim. So,
2:59:12we're just going to go and bring up
2:59:14everything that I
2:59:16>> him grandada,
2:59:18you're a disgrace. You side with Israel
2:59:19over a BS coke charge. Do you think
2:59:22Wait, were the Jews involved in my coke
2:59:24charge? They knew this was coming. Fuck.
2:59:29They had me on Charlie Kirk's side
2:59:30because they had me by the balls in my
2:59:32local county attorney's office. Shit.
2:59:36>> Think can try to embarrass her. I
2:59:38reported exactly.
2:59:39>> I'm not trying to embarrass you. I just
2:59:40want to make sure that I get your
2:59:42positions clear.
2:59:42>> I have not said Yeah. Go ahead.
2:59:44>> Now, you have stated multiple times that
2:59:46you believe that Israel is involved in
2:59:48the death of Charlie Kirk.
2:59:49>> Can you give me
2:59:50>> Yes, we can pull up the clip.
2:59:52>> I'm sorry. I'm just saying.
2:59:53>> Can I finish the sentence?
2:59:54>> Go ahead. No.
2:59:55>> Can you give me the context for what
2:59:58you're are you talking about like when I
2:59:59say generally speaking why people think
3:00:00that Israel's involved?
3:00:02>> Mhm.
3:00:02>> Okay. Where's your question?
3:00:04>> Yeah. Do you have any positive evidence
3:00:06whatsoever that Israel killed Charlie
3:00:07Kirk? Well, I couldn't say Israel was on
3:00:10the ground and shot and killed Charlie
3:00:11Kirk. I would say that there are
3:00:14>> You couldn't say that because that
3:00:16didn't happen. That'd be pretty simple.
3:00:19Tyler Robinson had shot and killed
3:00:20Charlie Kirk.
3:00:21>> Various things that we're trying to
3:00:22establish. One being a motive. And since
3:00:25I don't believe that Tyler Robin
3:00:29>> Dandelion says, "Love the get education
3:00:31insults or low IQ. It's cute. It's all
3:00:33meant to separate us all and further
3:00:35divide us. So many ops. Jesus loves and
3:00:37died for your educated friends. Let that
3:00:40ego go.
3:00:42People should let the ego go. Candace is
3:00:44dumb. It doesn't have to do with her IQ.
3:00:47Although I'm guessing that is low, but
3:00:49there's a lot of like that. IQ is a
3:00:52measure of a particular type of thinking
3:00:54and a particular type of smart. And it
3:00:56always isn't always applicable.
3:00:58Sometimes high IQ can be bad in some
3:01:00certain context. Doesn't really matter.
3:01:02Who cares? Candace is dumb because she
3:01:05can't follow one thing leading to the
3:01:08next.
3:01:10She can't shown it over and over in this
3:01:13debate alone, but also every day of her
3:01:15life.
3:01:16>> And his transfery uh is a convincing
3:01:19motive uh because he was fired up about
3:01:23politics, which Lance testified that he
3:01:25never spoke about with him, nor do I
3:01:27believe that he was
3:01:28>> he never spoke about it with him prior.
3:01:34But the dad st the mom stated that the
3:01:36dad and Tyler Robinson, Tyler Robinson
3:01:39and Tyler's dad, Matt, right? That they
3:01:43actually fought about politics and in
3:01:46particular Charlie Kirk. Like
3:01:50what are we talking about? Well, he
3:01:53never talked about it before. Therefore,
3:01:55and again, Candace Owens
3:01:58cannot
3:01:59fathom that someone didn't do something
3:02:03one day and then did it the next day.
3:02:07She does not know that that happens. She
3:02:12doesn't get it because to her, she
3:02:14always does the same thing every day.
3:02:25This isn't true, Brendan. There's no
3:02:27evidence of this. That's not true. She
3:02:31doesn't understand.
3:02:33She does not understand that Lance Twigs
3:02:37and Tyler Robinson didn't talk about
3:02:39Charlie Kirk and then all of a sudden
3:02:41they're talking about Charlie Kirk
3:02:42because Tyler Robinson just killed Lance
3:02:44Twigs. She doesn't get it. She's like,
3:02:46"No, they never talked about him.
3:02:52Well, until they did though,
3:02:56>> you know, so into LGBTQ issues since
3:03:00>> the SD cards were not taken away. They
3:03:03were preserved. Show evidence of
3:03:05tampering. By the way, they'll do a data
3:03:07extraction on them. It'll be all fine.
3:03:09Chill out.
3:03:11Uh, let's see. What do we got?
3:03:14Sweaty Zeus Gaming says, "Doesn't she
3:03:16think intel agencies are the ones
3:03:18leaking to her to discredit her? It's
3:03:20clear there's an op between her, Tucker,
3:03:22Marjorie Taylor Green to divide the
3:03:24right." Yeah, I I don't care because all
3:03:27these
3:03:28never attribute to malice
3:03:31that which can be adequately explained
3:03:33by not enough chromosomes.
3:03:36I think that's Hanland's razor,
3:03:40right? I can't say there's a conspiracy
3:03:43because all these people could just be
3:03:45fucking stupid.
3:03:48Even if they were previously smart, they
3:03:50could have gotten dumb. It's possible.
3:03:53>> Lance testified they never spoke about
3:03:54LGBTQ issues. That he stopped and ate at
3:03:57Chick-fil-A, which
3:03:58>> they never spoke about LGBTQ issues.
3:04:01They just ate each other's cock. He
3:04:04stopped and ate at Chick-fil-A. Fags
3:04:06don't eat there. What are you talking
3:04:08about? Stop it. that the Chick-fil-A
3:04:12anti-gay thing was over a decade ago.
3:04:18>> If you are into LGBTQ issues, wouldn't
3:04:20be your lunch before you go kill Charlie
3:04:21Kirk for LGBTQ issues. Uh because
3:04:24>> why why wouldn't it be? Maybe he thought
3:04:27that was ironic. This guy's also a video
3:04:30gamer. He might have thought that was
3:04:31trolling. What? She's like, you wouldn't
3:04:33eat at Chick-fil-A before you go kill
3:04:35Charlie Kirk over LGBTQ issues. Didn't
3:04:38Chick-fil-A reduce like completely uh do
3:04:42a full heel turn on LGBTQ issues? Didn't
3:04:46that happen?
3:04:49Did I might be remembering that wrong.
3:04:51Chick-fil-A change its stance
3:04:56uh
3:04:59on LGBTQ
3:05:01issues.
3:05:08It was a massive public thing. It was
3:05:10like seven years ago or something.
3:05:14Nick eats Chick-fil-A and he's gay. I I
3:05:16actually don't really care for
3:05:17Chick-fil-A because I don't like the
3:05:19sweetness of their breading. They put
3:05:21like honey in their breading. I don't
3:05:22like that. I prefer I prefer Canes or uh
3:05:26or KFC or Popeye's.
3:05:32Yes. in limited but notable ways,
3:05:34primarily around charitable giving and
3:05:37public inclusivity language. They're not
3:05:39a full reversal of its historical
3:05:41Christian rooted positions.
3:05:42Chick-fil-A's reputation on LGBTQ issues
3:05:45stems largely from the founder and
3:05:47former CEO's expression of support for
3:05:49traditional marriage, past donations to
3:05:52organizations such as Fellowship of
3:05:54Christian Athletes, Salvation Army, blah
3:05:56blah blah blah. Key changes. In 2012,
3:05:58after the public controversy, the
3:06:00company stated it would leave the policy
3:06:01debate over the samesex marriage to the
3:06:03government and political arena while
3:06:05affirming it would treat every person
3:06:07with honor, dignity, and respect
3:06:09regardless of belief, race, creed,
3:06:12sexual orientation, or gender, or
3:06:15snicker status. It says that
3:06:17specifically, November 2019, Chick-fil-A
3:06:19announced a shift in its philanthropic
3:06:21focus. It stopped donations to the
3:06:24Fellowship of Christian Athletes and the
3:06:25Salvation Army, among others, and
3:06:27redirected giving towards education,
3:06:28hunger, and homelessness. Company
3:06:30leaders said the change is part of a
3:06:32broader streamlining of giving, and that
3:06:34no organization, faith-based or
3:06:36otherwise, was categorically excluded
3:06:38from future consideration. Corporate
3:06:40policies now explicitly include
3:06:43non-discrimination protections covering
3:06:45sexual orientation, gender identity, and
3:06:47gender expressions, and employment
3:06:48operations. The company maintains DEI
3:06:51commitments and language about embracing
3:06:53all people regardless of sexual
3:06:55orientation or gender identity. Recent
3:06:57examples as of late 2025 include a
3:07:01franchise location publicly
3:07:03congratulating a same-sex couple on
3:07:05social media. Corporate responses to
3:07:07complaints reaffirmed the uh embraces
3:07:10all people stance and DEI focus rather
3:07:14than distancing from the post.
3:07:20Chick-fil-A is super gay now.
3:07:24This dumb woman
3:07:27doesn't understand that Chick-fil-A went
3:07:31through a 15year
3:07:34restructuring
3:07:35of its policy on homosex
3:07:41wouldn't uh Tyler Robinson if he's gay
3:07:44he wouldn't eat there. Yeah, he would.
3:07:46He would eat there twice. He loves meat
3:07:48in his mouth.
3:07:53She doesn't understand. Again, Candace
3:07:55Owens cannot fathom one thing being true
3:08:00and then changing it. It's just always
3:08:02that way. It's always the way it is.
3:08:07I never have to think about it. It's
3:08:08always the way it is.
3:08:11Fucking dumb. She's so dumb.
3:08:15>> Yeah. But do you have positive evidence?
3:08:16>> I'm I'm I'm answering the question as I
3:08:18feel like I want to answer it. Like I
3:08:19said, you don't get to for an hour and a
3:08:20half. Pepper,
3:08:21>> but the question I'm asking is about
3:08:22positive evidence.
3:08:23>> I'm telling you that in any case,
3:08:25establish,
3:08:25>> you don't get to do this to me. You have
3:08:28no indication that he's going to do that
3:08:29for an hour and a half. He just asked if
3:08:30he could ask you some questions. You
3:08:32have the ability to say no at any point.
3:08:34>> Pushing a motive. And what I and again,
3:08:37I already explained this at the top of
3:08:38the show, but the reason why people find
3:08:41Israel to be an interesting question is
3:08:43because truthfully, Charlie's
3:08:45perspectives were changing on Israel.
3:08:47Sure. And he
3:08:52Guys, the idea of someone changing their
3:08:54mind is so foreign to her.
3:08:59And it's such a rare occurrence
3:09:02that she believes that Charlie changing
3:09:05his mind
3:09:07potentially. The idea flirting with the
3:09:10notion of changing his mind about Israel
3:09:12meant that Israel had to murder him
3:09:15because people don't change their minds
3:09:19to her. They don't do it. They don't
3:09:21know how. It's not a thing that happens.
3:09:23You mean they change their mind? No.
3:09:25This is just what I believe.
3:09:28She doesn't know. She doesn't get She
3:09:31thinks that Charlie Kirk starting to
3:09:34change his mind about the Jews is such a
3:09:36monumentally
3:09:38monumental occasion. She doesn't even
3:09:41know the extent to which he was going to
3:09:42change it. Just that he might the Jews
3:09:45had to kill him. They could read it on
3:09:48him and they had to kill him
3:09:49immediately.
3:09:51was starting to realize how much
3:09:53pressure was being put on not just our
3:09:55government uh to constantly fight their
3:09:58wars, but also being put on his
3:09:59organization personally. If people had
3:10:02come out and been honest about that, uh
3:10:04rather than rabid claiming he never
3:10:06flinched and everybody's lying and this
3:10:10is not true, you would probably have
3:10:12people that just go, "Eh, that's life.
3:10:14People change their opinions."
3:10:15>> I understand. Yeah. But then you
3:10:17convinced
3:10:19multiple millions of people that he was
3:10:21killed by Jews through a microphone worn
3:10:25under his shirt that was manufactured in
3:10:27Australia, probably by a Korean.
3:10:35They probably would go, "That's just the
3:10:36way it goes." Some people do, I guess,
3:10:38change their mind on Jews from time to
3:10:40time. I guess that's just the that's
3:10:41just the way it is.
3:10:45That's just the way it is. Yeah. It's a
3:10:49This is such a strange concept. Some
3:10:52people listen to this. Some people might
3:10:56have just thought sometimes I guess
3:10:59people just change their mind. She it
3:11:03changing a mind is such a foreign
3:11:05concept to her that she has relegated
3:11:08the acceptance of it down to some people
3:11:11might think that
3:11:14holy shit she's so stupid.
3:11:19>> And then there was the rabbit. I mean
3:11:21not even that everything was about
3:11:22trying to convince the public how much
3:11:24he liked you.
3:11:24>> So then other than intuition how you
3:11:26feel about things. Do you have any
3:11:27evidence was involved in killing Charlie
3:11:30Kirk? I have already
3:11:31>> he may not have liked Zionism. He may
3:11:33not have liked our foreign aid to Israel
3:11:35and our policies and stuff. But he liked
3:11:36Israel as a concept as an Orthodox
3:11:39Christian.
3:11:41I think he was Orthodox, right? Or was
3:11:43he Catholic? Whichever. Israel is the
3:11:45promised land for some Christians. like
3:11:48they believe some Christians, some some
3:11:51fundamentalist evangelicals believe that
3:11:54Israel will be the sight of a great
3:11:55battle and then a thousand years of
3:11:57peace before we all go to hell and then
3:11:59heaven or whatever that like but Israel
3:12:02is still held in high regard even by
3:12:04Christians.
3:12:05They may not like Zionism because
3:12:07Zionism is untethered from biblical
3:12:10prophecy. Zionism is about something
3:12:13else. They don't like that.
3:12:16So Charlie Kirk may not have liked
3:12:18Zionism or like the I read some texts
3:12:21where he was frustrated with how like
3:12:23the level of influence and the pressure
3:12:25coming from Jewish donors who are like
3:12:26you got to let go of Tucker. You got to
3:12:28let go. You got to can't have him
3:12:29around. Tucker Carlson, you can't have
3:12:31him on your show. You can't do it.
3:12:34Leviticus
3:12:3641, fuck you, right? Like yeah, okay,
3:12:39but that doesn't mean that he was like
3:12:41anti-Israel or anti-Jew. It means he's
3:12:44getting frustrated by the experience he
3:12:46was having with people of a certain
3:12:47mindset.
3:12:50So then then Candace comes out and she's
3:12:52like, "He actually hated those little
3:12:54rat fucks." Like, "Okay, that's not I
3:12:58don't think that's the same thing." And
3:13:00then his friends are like, "No, he
3:13:02didn't hate." Like, what are you talking
3:13:03about? Bunch of his friends are Jew.
3:13:05Blah blah. He He knows at least two or
3:13:07three Jew people. He had he had an
3:13:09accountant and a banker and he he worked
3:13:12with the media. It's like the it's like
3:13:16why would they say this? Why would they
3:13:17try and defend his love of Jews? Like
3:13:19calm down, you fucking weird bitch. Uh
3:13:22Shitbox says she's a can't understand
3:13:25normal thinking kind of girl.
3:13:28Can't understand normal thinking.
3:13:30Jacqueline Brennan says Nick Fick F.
3:13:33Yeah, Nick Quentes told her up you'd be
3:13:36gone too if it was BB.
3:13:39Tara Rener says except she has grifted
3:13:42off her change from Democrat.
3:13:47She didn't change from being a Democrat
3:13:50again.
3:13:52This is Thank you for bringing this up.
3:13:54And by the way, how you doing? It's
3:13:55really good to see you. Candace Owens
3:13:59didn't change from being a Democrat.
3:14:01Candace Owens doesn't change.
3:14:05Candace Owens literally
3:14:09literally woke up.
3:14:12She woke up and said, "I'm conservative
3:14:16actually
3:14:21because she had a dream where she was
3:14:23conservative and she realized that she
3:14:26was
3:14:27She didn't change her mind. She didn't
3:14:29reason into different policies. She
3:14:32didn't read up on communism and see its
3:14:34encroachment. She wasn't like she wasn't
3:14:37like, "Oh, I make more money now. I'm in
3:14:38a tax." She woke up and had a an
3:14:41epiphany that she was actually
3:14:45conservative.
3:14:48That's her explanation.
3:14:52I know she made the docs conservatives
3:14:54app, but she never actually made it. She
3:14:56didn't make the app. That was her idea.
3:14:58She raised money for it. She didn't do
3:14:59it. She wanted to. But then she woke up
3:15:02and she realized, "No, actually, she was
3:15:04conservative.
3:15:09She can't change her mind, guys. I'm I'm
3:15:12on the cutting edge here." as her
3:15:14clinician, as her psychiatrist,
3:15:17psychologist, therapist, podiatrist.
3:15:22I do have a camera and there is a secret
3:15:23only like as all of those things. I am
3:15:26medically diagnosing her under the DSM.
3:15:31Don't ask her husband. Uh, under the
3:15:35DSM5, this bitch is incapable of
3:15:38changing her mind. She She can't. She
3:15:40she is so allergic to the notion of
3:15:43changing her mind of changing anyone's
3:15:45mind that Charlie Kirk had to be killed
3:15:47for it by a foreign by a multinational
3:15:50conspiracy of multiple governments
3:15:53including our own while his people are
3:15:56in power. That's just the thought of
3:15:58changing a mind required his immediate
3:16:02murder. So that's good. And she didn't
3:16:05change her mind become going from
3:16:07Democrat to Republican. She just
3:16:09realized that she was Republican.
3:16:11Specifically, she was conservative.
3:16:14She didn't change her mind about
3:16:18defend deciding to defend Charlie Kirk.
3:16:20Charlie Kirk came to her in a dream and
3:16:22she realized she was always defending
3:16:24Charlie Kirk. She was always his best
3:16:25friend. This woman does not exist
3:16:28outside of what is serving her right
3:16:31now. I'm an expert on this beyond what
3:16:34you guys like. I'm joking a little bit,
3:16:36but I'm not. I'm not joking
3:16:39in in the fullon sense. I am not joking.
3:16:43I am an expert in this. I have
3:16:46experienced this firsthand from someone.
3:16:49I have educated people on it publicly,
3:16:52privately, and over and over and over
3:16:55again. I am proven 100% true. I am
3:16:57probably the leading expert on this
3:16:59phenomenon. I am diagnosing this dummy.
3:17:05said and if you're watching my show in
3:17:07the context of what I said this is the
3:17:09general sense of why people think
3:17:10Israel's involved. We don't nobody has
3:17:13made the claim that is Israelis there
3:17:15were also you know obviously
3:17:17>> Carol made the claim
3:17:18>> Candace Owens made the claim Ian Carol
3:17:20made the claim Baron Coleman made the
3:17:22claim
3:17:24Tennyson has made the claim Stu Peters
3:17:26has made the claim like a hundred times
3:17:28an hour. Stan Parker has made the claim.
3:17:30What are you talking about? Nobody's
3:17:31made the claim. They've all made the
3:17:32claim. They've made the claim
3:17:34specifically that this have that Israel
3:17:36did this. Not not that we might have
3:17:38evidence that we have suspicions that we
3:17:39have questions. No, Israel did this.
3:17:43Nobody's made the claim. That would
3:17:44require changing a mind. We the rebels
3:17:46says the fastest way to change someone's
3:17:48mind is 150 grain, 1500 ft per second.
3:17:57>> Well, Joe Kent, who I I think would uh
3:18:00have the right to assert it, uh noted
3:18:02that there were 12 Israeli cell phones
3:18:03on the ground that day. I think most
3:18:05people would like to probe that. Now, it
3:18:07could be maybe they were student.
3:18:09What was this?
3:18:11Joe Kent asserted there were 12 Israeli
3:18:15phones on the ground that day.
3:18:17>> Huh?
3:18:19>> And there were Israeli students in Utah
3:18:20that day. But we'd like to probe that
3:18:23narrative because what we've seen after
3:18:24coming from the Israeli government, the
3:18:26>> we we we we
3:18:29would like we would like we would like.
3:18:31Who's the we? Are we in the room with
3:18:34you now? Who's we? Well, that's a good
3:18:37pause face. Israeli prime minister uh
3:18:40kind of denying that he did it which
3:18:41wasn't really necessary was quite busy.
3:18:43Uh the
3:18:44>> there's a lot of chatter about her
3:18:46throwing Joe Kent under the bus. Joe
3:18:48Kent may have been illegally leaking
3:18:49things to Candace Owens. She probably
3:18:52just burned her sores
3:18:55and
3:18:57quite like you know will anything happen
3:19:00to Joe Kent? Probably not.
3:19:03But maybe I don't know maybe the Jews
3:19:05will kill him too. Oh no. I figured it
3:19:07out. I know how this works. Jacqueline
3:19:10Brennan says she claimed Charlie Kirk
3:19:12was going to stop Trump from the Iran
3:19:14war. Charlie Kirk was a big guy. I think
3:19:16he could stop him.
3:19:17>> Call that happened, which no one wants
3:19:19to discuss in the Hampton's the week
3:19:21prior uh or not the week prior, I think
3:19:23it was around August 5th or 6th that
3:19:26took place.
3:19:27>> And again, the almost desperate lies
3:19:30about Charlie shifting opinion on Israel
3:19:32lead us to believe that there could be
3:19:34an Israeli angle in this. uh but we
3:19:36cannot say
3:19:38>> lead us to believe but we cannot say for
3:19:40certain. Here's a bunch of unverifiable
3:19:43statements made by people that you don't
3:19:45get to know about but that's our
3:19:47evidence. That's not evidence.
3:19:49None none of that has any verifiability.
3:19:54None of it has any testability. None of
3:19:56it is none of it's being stated with any
3:19:59sort of consequence
3:20:00>> for certainty that Israel
3:20:02>> and again if she knows all this wouldn't
3:20:04Israel kill her like
3:20:09the next time she goes in for a pedicure
3:20:10or something Jewish gel nails deliver
3:20:13aids up into her feet
3:20:15>> called the shots and this is how it
3:20:17happened but it is definitively I think
3:20:19a thread that a lot of us would like to
3:20:20see
3:20:21>> there's no positive evidence
3:20:22>> I I
3:20:22>> she said def she said definitively
3:20:25that's would happen. But it's like a
3:20:27thread we'd like to pull.
3:20:29>> Whatever you want to say, however,
3:20:31positive, negative, however you want to
3:20:32say it. I like a conversation.
3:20:35>> Material evidence.
3:20:37>> Brian's random thoughts for you is
3:20:39coming in with a Candace level analysis.
3:20:41Wow, it's 3:38 Eastern. You're wearing
3:20:44sunglasses. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
3:20:47Apparently, you learn nothing.
3:20:51So if you wear sunglasses,
3:20:55you don't learn like what does the did
3:20:58the sung did the lenses stop learning
3:21:00from happening? What what's going on
3:21:02there?
3:21:03>> And other evidences
3:21:05>> what we said is on our show is what we
3:21:07said which is we this feels like a
3:21:11conspiracy building. There's no reason
3:21:13to lie about
3:21:14>> feels feels this feels like a conspiracy
3:21:17building. Bitch, you can't spell
3:21:19conspiracy. You don't know what a
3:21:22building conspiracy is because you see a
3:21:24conspiracy everywhere. You would think
3:21:26when they're building an outhouse is
3:21:29it's a conspiracy.
3:21:31What are you talking about?
3:21:33She sees conspiracies where they aren't.
3:21:35She's not qualified to talk about where
3:21:37they are
3:21:38>> about these things and yet people are li
3:21:42>> slurred speech and all. Do you think
3:21:44cocaine causes slurred speech?
3:21:49You have Candace level assessments of
3:21:51evidence too and knowledge of facts.
3:21:54>> Uh BBA acting right. The Hampton's thing
3:21:57was weird. The Hampton the way they
3:21:59tried to shove the is
3:22:01>> all all insider talk. All insider talk.
3:22:03Special lexicon special knowledge of
3:22:05special events. If you don't know about
3:22:07the Hampton thing, you're not even
3:22:08qualified to talk about this. No, I
3:22:09don't know about the Hampton thing
3:22:10because it's not relevant to any of
3:22:12this. Not indexes. I wear my sunglasses.
3:22:16>> Israel narrative down our throat
3:22:18immediately. I mean, the day he died,
3:22:20posting a picture of him with an
3:22:21American and Israeli AIed photo on the
3:22:23president's feed. Doesn't feel right.
3:22:25So,
3:22:25>> do you have any evidence that Erica Kirk
3:22:28or TPUSA participated in the murder of
3:22:30Charlie Kirk?
3:22:30>> I've never said they participated in the
3:22:32murder of Charlie Kirk. So, how could I?
3:22:35>> Hey, KPG says, "I feel sorry for those
3:22:36who support official Fed narrative in
3:22:39mainstream media." Who supports the
3:22:41mainstream media? I don't know who that
3:22:43is. Official Fed narrative. There isn't
3:22:45an official Fed narrative on what
3:22:47happened. Do you know that? Like there
3:22:49isn't a Fed narrative. That's not a
3:22:51thing that's real.
3:22:58That's that's not a thing that exists.
3:23:01The federal government isn't charging
3:23:03Tyler Robinson. The federal government
3:23:05isn't in Actually, they're not even the
3:23:07main investigative body. They were they
3:23:10were an assisted investigative body.
3:23:12Yes. Uh they didn't develop the
3:23:14timeline. They didn't develop the
3:23:16charges. That was all done by Utah State
3:23:19Police and the Utah County Attorney's
3:23:21Office. The FBI attorney's office didn't
3:23:24or the FBI council uh they're too busy
3:23:27defending Cash Patel's girlfriend with
3:23:29no involvement. Right. Like they're
3:23:31doing that. They they're not working on
3:23:34this. It's all done in Utah state court.
3:23:37Why do you say it's a fed narrative?
3:23:39Where's the fed narrative being
3:23:40delivered? Because in Utah state court
3:23:43with the Utah state processor and the
3:23:44Utah state police are the people who are
3:23:46bringing these charges. There may be a
3:23:48federal agent or two or federal
3:23:51forensics examiner or two who offers
3:23:52some supplemental testimony at trial,
3:23:54but they're not the primary
3:23:55investigating body.
3:23:57>> They say that I have
3:23:59>> the FBI is involved. Yeah, I know we've
3:24:01covered this. Keep up Candice. evidence
3:24:05they participated in the murder of
3:24:07Charlie Kirk.
3:24:07>> Okay. So then you don't believe that
3:24:09they did.
3:24:10>> I never have said that statement. So I'm
3:24:13not going to get you to ask me personal
3:24:15questions about things that I've never
3:24:16said on record.
3:24:17>> Okay. Fair. Your team is sending
3:24:19messages in the back saying they have a
3:24:20video they want to play.
3:24:21>> Okay. Go ahead.
3:24:22>> I don't know what the video is.
3:24:24>> I do.
3:24:29Bro, FBI is involved.
3:24:32Yes. The FBI originally investigated it.
3:24:34Do you know why? Can you Can you reason
3:24:36through it? Do you not know how? I think
3:24:39you might not know how.
3:24:41>> If you're
3:24:43Yes. You said that there's a video you
3:24:45want to play that Candace said she has
3:24:49full confidence Israel was involved.
3:24:51>> Yep.
3:24:52>> Yeah. You said evidence that I that they
3:24:54killed him. I said they're This is why
3:24:56people think they're involvement
3:24:57involvement. If they have the clip, they
3:24:59can play the clip. They're they're
3:25:00referring to a clip.
3:25:01>> Yeah.
3:25:06via who?
3:25:08My guess is Pierre Cara. I think that
3:25:13there's a reason Pierre knew that
3:25:14Charlie was dead first. I think there's
3:25:16a reason he was a priority.
3:25:18How why
3:25:20think France and Israel are involved in
3:25:22Charlie Kirk's assassination. And um I'm
3:25:24going to put that out there with full
3:25:26confidence.
3:25:28>> Listen to this dumb fucking hoe talk.
3:25:30Listen to it.
3:25:33I think I think there's a reason I think
3:25:37you don't think we know from evidence
3:25:40that you don't think I think there's a
3:25:42reason Charlie Kirk was first. I think
3:25:46they know I think I'm going to put it
3:25:49out there with full confidence.
3:25:52What are we talking about? What What are
3:25:54we talking Look at the look on her
3:25:56fucking face. Look at how mad she is
3:25:59watching this video. She just I've never
3:26:01said anything like this. Here, watch.
3:26:04Watch you say it, you dummy.
3:26:08>> Okay.
3:26:08>> I also
3:26:09>> I understand.
3:26:10>> Yeah.
3:26:10>> So, you think you you with full
3:26:12confidence you think that
3:26:13>> Yeah. I think Israel is involved and
3:26:15>> Israel.
3:26:15>> Yeah. I I mean, the person that gave me
3:26:17that thing that I reported said that
3:26:19>> the person that gave me that thing that
3:26:20I reported said that France and Israel
3:26:23were involved. So I I think with full I
3:26:26think maybe with full confidence based
3:26:28on one thing someone told me that I
3:26:30reported that French Foreign Legion and
3:26:34the IDF or the Israeli government are
3:26:36involved in this. That's how I know
3:26:39>> uh French Foreign Legion were on the
3:26:41>> Patrick BD David is over here. He this I
3:26:44swear this guy doesn't even like he he
3:26:46turned the volume down on his earbuds or
3:26:48something.
3:26:50He has nothing of value in this video.
3:26:54>> Your friends want to play video
3:26:57>> ground that day. Again, this would be
3:26:59this would be at a professional
3:27:00limitation for me to then go and probe
3:27:03that information that I handed over. I
3:27:05can't do that. I'm not positive
3:27:07evidence.
3:27:07>> Why Why can't you probe it?
3:27:10Did you hear this? Did you hear that? I
3:27:14don't I I don't have this. I can't I
3:27:16don't have the investigative capacity to
3:27:18Oh, but you have the investigative
3:27:20capacity to investigate because you call
3:27:22it an investigation, Charlie Kurt's
3:27:23murder and determine that Israel and the
3:27:25French Foreign Legion are involved in
3:27:27that. You can't probe these things. Just
3:27:29everything else in your official public
3:27:32investigation. You have the power to do
3:27:35everything except that
3:27:39except that. That's the one thing. Well,
3:27:42the two things maybe the three thing.
3:27:44Those are the things she can't do.
3:27:49>> I don't you can you just stop? It's It's
3:27:50actually just like annoying to hear you
3:27:52keep saying positive evidence. I' I've
3:27:53just asked me what I think and I've just
3:27:55done
3:27:56>> he I'm going to call Andrew out on this.
3:28:00First of all, her saying it's annoying
3:28:01to hear you say positive evidence. Well,
3:28:03he's trying to define what he's asking
3:28:05you if you have.
3:28:08You don't seem to have it. But my
3:28:10critique of Andrew is the same as my
3:28:12critique of Candace earlier. Stop adding
3:28:15adjectives to your thing. Do you have
3:28:17evidence of this? Do you have evidence
3:28:20of this?
3:28:21Do you have evidence of this?
3:28:25I want to I want to draw a distinction
3:28:27on what evidence is.
3:28:29Evidence is not something that makes a
3:28:33theory
3:28:35more or less likely to be true. That's a
3:28:38misconception that people have. If you
3:28:40go,
3:28:42Israel's involved
3:28:45because they manu they manufacture
3:28:47microphones that explode and kill
3:28:49people.
3:28:52I think Charlie Kirk was killed by a
3:28:55microphone
3:28:57manufactured by Israel.
3:29:03road is based in Australia but is
3:29:07staffed by the IDF. I now have evidence
3:29:11supporting my
3:29:13conclusion that Charlie Kirk was killed
3:29:17by an Australian or a Jewish Australian
3:29:20microphone. Right?
3:29:22That's not evidence. That is something
3:29:25that happens within a theory. But a
3:29:28theory is not a fact. A fact is could a
3:29:33set of facts can help you develop a
3:29:35theory. Evidence doesn't make the theory
3:29:39more or less likely to be true except to
3:29:42the extent that it makes a fact within
3:29:44the theory more or less likely to be
3:29:46true. If you can't point to the fact,
3:29:50then you don't have evidence. It's this
3:29:54is a rhetorical trick to get around that
3:29:56pesky limitation of what evidence is.
3:30:00Evidence is not I think Jews killed
3:30:03Charlie Kirk and I saw Jews in Utah
3:30:05which they never are there. So therefore
3:30:07I have evidence that the Jews killed
3:30:09Charlie Kirk. No, you don't. You don't
3:30:12have that at all. That's not a thing.
3:30:14Well, Jews have to be present for my
3:30:17theory to be correct. And now I've shown
3:30:20that Jews were present by evidence. So
3:30:23therefore my theory is more correct. No,
3:30:24you didn't. You didn't do that.
3:30:27It's not linked to the the facts that
3:30:30are required there other than the fact
3:30:32that Jews were theoretically present in
3:30:35Utah. That's that's the only amount of
3:30:37theory advancement you get. Candace
3:30:40wants to skip the facts. She wants her
3:30:43evidence, mostly her conclusions and her
3:30:46inferences and her gut or whatever, but
3:30:49she wants she wants that uh she wants to
3:30:52skip all um all the facts. She just
3:30:55wants the evidence to support the
3:30:57ultimate conclusion theory because if
3:31:01you have to support a list of facts,
3:31:03this is how criminal law works. This is
3:31:05how civil law works. You have crime.
3:31:08We'll call that your theory. Crime is
3:31:10murder. You have five elements of
3:31:13murder. It has to be you know the person
3:31:15taking the life of another some
3:31:18requisite degree of intentionality or
3:31:20culpability
3:31:22uh some amount of you know state of mind
3:31:25on it's intentional was it intentional
3:31:28in the moment was it premeditated etc.
3:31:31So all that all each one of those five
3:31:33elements those are the things that your
3:31:35facts need to to go to like your facts
3:31:38need to go to and your evidence needs to
3:31:39support the facts around those five
3:31:41elements. He intended to kill him.
3:31:44That's a fact. Okay. So then you have to
3:31:46have evidence that supports that fact.
3:31:50If conspiracy theory like Candace here,
3:31:54if if
3:31:57you skip the elements, then all evidence
3:32:01is equally valuable. But we know that
3:32:05all evidence is not equally valuable
3:32:07when you have a structure about what
3:32:09evidence means and where it goes and
3:32:11what it can show. This is why she wants
3:32:14to avoid it.
3:32:15>> You Yes, I think they are involved.
3:32:17>> Claim. No, I said here's what here's
3:32:20what I think.
3:32:20>> I have every right to ask you about your
3:32:22claim and if there's positive evidence
3:32:24for your claim statement. I literally
3:32:25just said I think and I am allowed to
3:32:28think.
3:32:28>> We the rebel says all right I'm going to
3:32:30call it jerk off and sleep. If you can
3:32:32get a 10
3:32:34if you can get a 10 at $10 in the next
3:32:3710 minutes I'll skip the jerk offame
3:32:41I have tons of positive evidence that
3:32:43I'm allowed to think.
3:32:44>> I I agree you're allowed to think.
3:32:46I have tons of posit positive evidence
3:32:48that I'm allowed to think. Name one
3:32:50thing. Show me evidence that you're
3:32:53allowed to think.
3:32:58I know she's trying to be cutesy and and
3:33:01pathy here, but show me evidence that
3:33:03you're allowed to think. You have it.
3:33:06You don't understand what evidence she
3:33:07does. She literally doesn't know. What
3:33:10is it? Where's your evidence that you're
3:33:11allowed to think? What is that? Okay.
3:33:14So,
3:33:14>> nobody's disputing whether or not is
3:33:16allowed to think. What I'm asking is
3:33:17that
3:33:18>> what is that? What is your issue with
3:33:19the statement? I think
3:33:21>> that Israel
3:33:23>> is involved.
3:33:24>> That's not what that's not just what you
3:33:25said.
3:33:25>> That's her in
3:33:29>> I almost said that's her entire claim,
3:33:30but that's not her claim. Her claim is
3:33:33that the federal government conspiracy
3:33:36has Tyler Robinson as a psy and there's
3:33:38overwhelming evidence of that. She
3:33:39hasn't she hasn't even talked about
3:33:41that. You said
3:33:44>> it's with full confidence.
3:33:46>> Yes.
3:33:47>> I think that if you had full confidence
3:33:48>> to think when you think
3:33:49>> if but if you if I said for instance I
3:33:52think I'm going to be late.
3:33:53>> Do you have full confidence when you
3:33:55think? This woman literally doesn't know
3:33:57about what thinking is
3:34:00listen to the evidence. By the way,
3:34:04listen to the evidence that she is
3:34:07stacking up that her cognitive function
3:34:10is something so far reduced from
3:34:12anything you've experienced.
3:34:15It's like, don't you have full
3:34:16confidence when you think? Most people
3:34:18don't.
3:34:20Most people don't have full confidence
3:34:23when they think. That's what the
3:34:25thinking is for. is for refining,
3:34:28testing, doubting, going back, going
3:34:31back, going back, and developing
3:34:33confidence in what you believe.
3:34:36She doesn't know this.
3:34:39She thinks
3:34:41she she calls it thinking, but she
3:34:43doesn't. She She manifests
3:34:47a belief and thinks that that is
3:34:50thinking.
3:34:51She manifests belief and it can be
3:34:55anything. It can change it. Like it
3:34:57doesn't change. She just manifests a new
3:34:59belief. She doesn't think. She doesn't
3:35:01know what thinking is. There's tons of
3:35:04evidence that she literally doesn't
3:35:06think. It's amazing listening to this
3:35:09dumb broad. You You couldn't pay. Well,
3:35:14Andrew Wilson could, but none of us none
3:35:16of us could pay to find a woman this
3:35:18stupid to talk to about this subject and
3:35:20have them just All the people online, by
3:35:22the way, they're like, "Candace one,
3:35:23Candace one, Candace." Pay attention to
3:35:25what she says and assess what that means
3:35:29about her. Look at how she assumes other
3:35:32people do things. That's because that's
3:35:34how she does things. She does not have
3:35:38the ability. She does not have the
3:35:40ability to engage in non-conrete
3:35:43thoughts, abstract thinking, to put
3:35:46herself in someone else's shoes, to
3:35:47empathize. She can't do it. There's a
3:35:51large percentage of the population who
3:35:53doesn't do it, who can't do it at all.
3:35:55There's a similar large percentage of
3:35:58the population who can do it, but only
3:36:01upon upon intense thought. And there's
3:36:03some people who kind of balance out. And
3:36:04then there's some people who are very
3:36:06very capable of empathy to the point
3:36:08where it can be debilitating because
3:36:10they're so constantly empathizing and
3:36:13putting themselves in other people's
3:36:14shoes that they neglect themselves. Like
3:36:15there there's stages to all this.
3:36:17Everything's a fucking spectrum. Now
3:36:19she's on the spectrum of of or she's so
3:36:22far down the spectrum of this phenomenon
3:36:25that she cannot
3:36:27not just that she she can if she try she
3:36:30can't do it. She cannot get there. She
3:36:32doesn't understand how other people can
3:36:34think in reason because she thinks in
3:36:36reasons this way. She's wrong about
3:36:38those things. She doesn't think a
3:36:39reason. She manifests a new concept and
3:36:42that is the new concept. It's not based
3:36:45on anything. It's why she doesn't
3:36:46understand evidence. That's why she's
3:36:48like, "I have evidence because I believe
3:36:50these things." That's not evidence
3:36:54>> to work, right? With full confidence. I
3:36:56would say, "My evidence for that is that
3:36:58I'm 20 minutes away and I need to be
3:36:59there in five."
3:37:00>> Andrew,
3:37:01>> that's how you would know whether or not
3:37:02you had full confidence.
3:37:03>> Tell you something. Let me finish. Let
3:37:05me finish. Let me finish.
3:37:06>> If it was the case that I said I have
3:37:08full confidence I'm going to be late to
3:37:09work, I would say my evidence that I'm
3:37:11going to be is that work is 20 minutes
3:37:13away, right? And I have to be there in
3:37:155. So, I have full confidence. That's
3:37:16why I would think that. So, I'm asking
3:37:19if you think that Israel and France were
3:37:21involved in the assassination of Charlie
3:37:22Kirk and you say with full confidence,
3:37:24I'm just asking for the evidence or at
3:37:26least walk me through the mindset of why
3:37:29it is that you could think that with
3:37:31>> I actually don't have to walk you
3:37:32through why I think. Um, I can also I
3:37:34can give you something that I
3:37:38>> I don't have to walk you through the
3:37:39concept of why I think. We know you
3:37:42don't have to, can you? You can't. She
3:37:45It's not that you don't have to. It's
3:37:46you don't have the ability to. Those are
3:37:48different things. You don't know that.
3:37:50She can't do it. She can't do it, guys.
3:37:56I can't I can't take it. I can't take
3:37:59it. This person cannot do it. No
3:38:02reasoning.
3:38:04Gone. I don't know if she ever had it.
3:38:07People can mask this their entire life
3:38:11because other people will come in and
3:38:13they'll bolster them, they'll support
3:38:16them, they'll forgive them, they'll let
3:38:18them, you know, they'll let them be
3:38:19walked all over, they'll endure abuse
3:38:21because the other person doesn't know
3:38:22that. They don't know that they're
3:38:24abusing. A lot of times they don't know
3:38:26that psy that that they're putting
3:38:27someone through psychological abuse.
3:38:30They're not actually monsters.
3:38:33They're they're automatons
3:38:36with no discernable skill in reasoning.
3:38:42They don't know. They can't fathom it.
3:38:45Literally can't fathom it. Fathoming is
3:38:47not a thing that her brain does. Uh
3:38:51Talmas says, "Nick is awesome. And there
3:38:54is 15 NIS for you buddy from your
3:38:56neighborhood is." Oh no. Zam compromised
3:39:00by the Jews. Tara Rener says Utah DA has
3:39:04more positive evidence than her thing
3:39:06she was told she needs to take a break
3:39:09from having babies rejuvenate her brain
3:39:11and uterus.
3:39:14I mean, I don't care about her having
3:39:15babies or not having babies. It doesn't
3:39:17matter. She won't get smarter.
3:39:20She can't grow.
3:39:24She can't like she can't grow. She
3:39:26doesn't. She's demonstrated an not only
3:39:29an inability to grow. She's told us
3:39:33when she describes cognitive processes,
3:39:36she describes them wrong like everything
3:39:38else. She doesn't know these things. She
3:39:39doesn't have the capacity to know. All
3:39:42right? She only has the capacity to
3:39:43believe and manifest or whatever. So,
3:39:46she's shown us that she can't do it.
3:39:49Because of that, she w she will never be
3:39:51able to. You can't get past this. It's
3:39:53how her brain works.
3:39:56her brain might be superpowered in some
3:39:58other way. I can't think of what it
3:40:00might be. Like, I have no idea. But it's
3:40:03not this. She can't. So, she when she's
3:40:05like, "Well, how, you know, I'm going to
3:40:07tell you how I know." You don't. You
3:40:09can't. You can't tell us how to know
3:40:11because we actually reason through.
3:40:13We're going to tell you how I think. You
3:40:15won't. I promise because you don't know
3:40:18that either. You don't do it.
3:40:19>> I think with full confidence. I think
3:40:21with full confidence that you know you
3:40:23lost the substance of this debate and
3:40:24now you're moving toward things that I
3:40:26have said that I
3:40:27>> this debate Candace said this is very
3:40:30important. She still doesn't understand
3:40:32that she has a burden for her debate
3:40:34topic. Her debate topic was Tyler
3:40:38Robinson pathy for the federal
3:40:40government in the conspiracy to kill
3:40:42Charlie Kirk and that there's
3:40:44overwhelming evidence of that. She's
3:40:46shown zero zero evidence. She's like,
3:40:49"And then you know you lost the
3:40:50substance of the de the debate." What's
3:40:51the substance of the debate, Candace?
3:40:53What is it? If he asked her right now,
3:40:56she wouldn't know what position she was
3:40:57supposed to defend. Her team would have
3:40:59to tell her
3:41:00>> think, which I can do. I'm allowed to
3:41:01pertinent to this debate
3:41:02>> that it's
3:41:03>> I'm allowed to think. I'm allowed to
3:41:05think. I think she I think she may she
3:41:08may have uh the spontaneous idea that
3:41:12she doesn't know how to think. I think
3:41:13she's worried about it. I think she's
3:41:15very intimidated by the concept of
3:41:17cognition and thinking because she's met
3:41:19other people and they're like, "Yeah,
3:41:21when I'm when I'm thinking through
3:41:22something, when I'm sitting in, you
3:41:24know, I'm sitting in my armchair and I
3:41:26just read a newspaper article and I'm
3:41:28thinking through while I drink my
3:41:29coffee." She's like,
3:41:31"What do you mean you're What do you
3:41:33mean thinking through?"
3:41:36Like, I read a news article on my show.
3:41:39What do you mean thinking through it?
3:41:43like, well, you know, there's some
3:41:45concepts that came up in the article
3:41:46that are conflicted for me. Like, I've
3:41:48long held that Israel is a really
3:41:51special place, but I I don't like, you
3:41:53know, the the federal policies around
3:41:55foreign aid. I don't like buying
3:41:57missiles for people who use them on
3:41:59Palestinians. So, like, I have some
3:42:01conflict and I'm I'm just I'm thinking
3:42:03through it and I'm talking it back and
3:42:05forth in my mind and I'm trying to
3:42:06resolve that. She's like, "What do you
3:42:07mean?
3:42:10What do you What do you What do you mean
3:42:12you're doing that? Who are you talking
3:42:14to? Just me.
3:42:20What do you mean talking to you? Like,
3:42:22how would you talk to you? She doesn't
3:42:24know.
3:42:24>> It's not exactly pertinent to this
3:42:26debate.
3:42:27>> It's not pertinent because our debate
3:42:28>> claims made about Charlie Kirk's
3:42:31assassination. That's the complete self
3:42:33debate.
3:42:33>> No, actually, would you like to remind
3:42:35him of what our debate claims actually
3:42:37were? And would you like to remind that
3:42:38you said I could ask you about any of
3:42:39these things?
3:42:40>> She does. She doesn't. She's about to
3:42:42say I said please let her talk, Andrew.
3:42:44I want to know if she remembers.
3:42:46>> My heart's content.
3:42:47>> I agree. But you didn't you do not get
3:42:48to structure how I'm allowed to reply or
3:42:50ask me why you're allowed to reply. I'm
3:42:53just asking you direct.
3:42:54>> So, and again, since she doesn't
3:42:57understand what thinking is,
3:43:01Andrew is challenging her by just
3:43:03saying, "Do you do you have any evidence
3:43:05to support this thing that you think?"
3:43:06She's like, "Why can't Why am I not
3:43:08allowed to think that?
3:43:10I'm not saying you're not allowed to
3:43:11think this."
3:43:13Yes, you are. No, I'm I'm literally not.
3:43:16I want to know I want to know why you
3:43:18think that. I I want I want to know the
3:43:20evidence that supports your thoughts.
3:43:22She's like, "You're not allowing me to
3:43:23think. You're stopping me from
3:43:25thinking."
3:43:29>> Questions. I my I have full confidence
3:43:31that you do not feel that you
3:43:34>> I don't think she knows what confidence
3:43:35is either by the way
3:43:38>> you represented your claim well and so
3:43:40now what you came
3:43:42>> how how is this relevant to any I'm
3:43:44fully confident that you don't think
3:43:46this no guys it's every sentence now
3:43:51it's every sentence she's fully
3:43:53confident that he doesn't think a thing
3:43:55do you think Andrew legitimately is
3:43:58sitting there going like with what we
3:44:00can discern about his ego, his
3:44:02experience, what he feels about Candace,
3:44:04do you think Andrew is sitting there
3:44:06going, "I didn't do great today."
3:44:10No,
3:44:11he's not thinking that at all. He's in
3:44:14his mind. I'm guessing this man is like,
3:44:18I have walked circles around this hag
3:44:21all day. She doesn't even get it
3:44:26because he's an egotistical asshole who
3:44:28doesn't like women. He doesn't think
3:44:30anything of her at all. She's like, "I
3:44:33think you think you haven't represented
3:44:34yourself." Well, you that just shows
3:44:37every phrase now is talking about
3:44:40thinking and doing it wrong. It's I'm
3:44:43I'm so happy about this.
3:44:47>> Present yourself like a professor of
3:44:49fellowship.
3:44:49>> I just want to know
3:44:50>> and to say you are not allowed to say
3:44:51that. You can't
3:44:52>> you can say whatever you want. He has
3:44:55never told her you're not allowed to say
3:44:57something. What he has said is the royal
3:45:01you which she doesn't understand that
3:45:03you means everybody. When he says he
3:45:06says you can't make a claim without
3:45:08supporting it with evidence. He's not
3:45:10saying you Candace can't do it's like
3:45:12why wouldn't you? Why can't I? Because
3:45:15no one can. That's what he's saying.
3:45:17He's not targeting you. She doesn't
3:45:20know. She doesn't get it.
3:45:24>> Nobody's disputing that. I'm asking.
3:45:26Seems like you are disputing that. I'm
3:45:26asking specifically and it seems like
3:45:30you're disputing it. How does it seem
3:45:32like that? Because you don't understand
3:45:39again. What are you talking? She doesn't
3:45:42know. I I'm I'm
3:45:46gonna mar.
3:45:47>> It's all said and done. I've already
3:45:48explained to you. I explained at the
3:45:49beginning of this why I think Israel is
3:45:51is is ultimately going to be proven to
3:45:54>> Kevin Smith. She's not just
3:45:56uncomfortable in getting defensive. This
3:45:58has been the entire debate. Has been the
3:46:01entire debate. I I now want to watch
3:46:03Candace Owens talk about other talk to
3:46:05other people about thinking. I have a
3:46:08theory and we need evidence of this,
3:46:11right? to round it out and figure out
3:46:13the different facts of what she thinks
3:46:15about thinking and what her concept of
3:46:17thinking is. I have a theory that if we
3:46:20were to start observing Candace Owens
3:46:23discussing cognitive processes with
3:46:25other people, my hypothesis is we would
3:46:29start to come to a conclusion that this
3:46:31bitch doesn't do it. She doesn't think.
3:46:34And so everything she says is from is
3:46:36not just a non-expert opinion, a
3:46:39complete ignoramus' opinion. She doesn't
3:46:42know what it is to think
3:46:46>> have involvement in this. Um, I just
3:46:49explained to you in the middle and now
3:46:50you're wanting me to structure the
3:46:52sentence or provide evidence. You don't
3:46:54have to. You're just allowed to think
3:46:56and I've explained to you my
3:46:58>> I don't have to back up my positions.
3:46:59I'm allowed to think. He's like, "Yeah,
3:47:01but I'm we're we're at this debate to do
3:47:03this. Like, I want to know how you get
3:47:05there." And she's like, "I don't have to
3:47:07do that." He's like, he's sitting there.
3:47:09It's like, "Yeah, but like you said, I
3:47:11can ask you questions about it." She You
3:47:12can ask me questions, but I don't have
3:47:14to tell you. I know, but will you
3:47:16though? Will you tell me? Captain
3:47:20Tiberious. Great show, Nick. Thanks, and
3:47:22good night. Hey, good night. Good night,
3:47:25Dur Son Spinner says, "From my
3:47:27observation, it's in part having a good
3:47:29memory but bad comprehension that
3:47:31results in these insufferable
3:47:32narcissists."
3:47:34possible
3:47:36the
3:47:39okay maybe I I think there are mind
3:47:42analogies we can do here like like her
3:47:44brain is like a filing cabinet right
3:47:47each each piece of paper has its own
3:47:49folder and they just drop the papers in
3:47:52there and so when you when you go to
3:47:54recall a fact in her mind she's like
3:47:56okay I'll go to Z I want to know about
3:47:59zebras zebras have stripes
3:48:03Cool.
3:48:05Zebras have hoofs.
3:48:08Zebras are shaped kind of like horses.
3:48:10All right, I know about zebras now. And
3:48:13then she wakes up from her trance and
3:48:15she goes, "Zebras are animals. Zebras
3:48:19have hooves. Zebras have stripes. And
3:48:22zebras are shaped sort of like horses.
3:48:25Like a striped horse.
3:48:29I know a lot about zebras. It's like a
3:48:31third grader giving a presentation,
3:48:33right? Like you with the the poster
3:48:35board behind them. My three facts about
3:48:38puppies are that's this is her this is
3:48:41her brain works and she's showing it to
3:48:43us in real time. I I need more research
3:48:47on this
3:48:48>> thought process. I don't need to
3:48:49>> if any of you guys find clips
3:48:52of can Owens talking about thinking to
3:48:55someone else out of this context, right?
3:48:58We got to study him. You just send them
3:48:59to me. Please
3:49:02>> structure it in a sentence. If you feel
3:49:04like a professor today, you picked the
3:49:05wrong day.
3:49:06>> Don't you think that like
3:49:07>> how on earth does he feel like a
3:49:09professor? Professors don't interact
3:49:10like this. He is talking. He's like, I
3:49:13want to ask questions because I want
3:49:15answers to the information you claim to
3:49:17have. Can I ask a question? I don't have
3:49:20to tell you how I think. He's like, but
3:49:21I'm allowed to. He's like, I just want I
3:49:24I want the facts that you have. Can we
3:49:26get to those? Tens of thousands or
3:49:28hundreds of thousands of people would
3:49:30want to know what Candace Owen's
3:49:32positive evidence for why it is that
3:49:34Israel and France were involved in the
3:49:37most traumatic public assassination of
3:49:39Jenz's lifetime is.
3:49:41>> That's why they watch my podcast.
3:49:42>> So you're just going to drip to them
3:49:44like here's why
3:49:45>> I'm not dripping. I every time we come
3:49:47across any of these discussions, they're
3:49:49watching this in context and they know
3:49:50why I'm saying it. So for example,
3:49:53>> they're watching it in context, which
3:49:55they aren't. They legitimately aren't
3:49:57watching it in context. She knows that
3:49:59they're not watching it in context if
3:50:00she knows what context means, but I
3:50:01don't think she does. She says, uh, and
3:50:04and they're and they know they know why
3:50:07I'm saying it. How would they know why
3:50:09you're saying it?
3:50:11How would they know?
3:50:14Because you just know that. I just know
3:50:15why I'm saying it. So therefore, other
3:50:17people know why I'm saying it.
3:50:20She doesn't know anything. This is an
3:50:23amazing thing.
3:50:26Oh, this is great. See, here's another
3:50:28person who's like this, right? Brian's
3:50:30random thoughts for you says, "Nick,
3:50:32you're only fooling yourself." How? I am
3:50:35an addict as are you. Am I like you? Oh,
3:50:39okay. It's interesting that that you've
3:50:42made a determination empathetically.
3:50:45Of course, like empathetically that I'm
3:50:47like you. That's how empathy works. Uh,
3:50:50finish your stream and in the silence of
3:50:52tonight, please consider your actions.
3:50:54You're going to lose it all again. How?
3:51:00How would I lose it all again? What do
3:51:03you believe?
3:51:05What are you manifesting right now about
3:51:08all this?
3:51:11Because you you demonstrated a like an
3:51:14inability to empathize.
3:51:16What you've done right there is you've
3:51:18said, "You're like me." That's not
3:51:21empathy. Empathy is to say, "I step into
3:51:24this person's shoes, not I attribute my
3:51:27attributes to them." That's not how
3:51:28empathy works. In empathy, you're
3:51:31supposed to try and figure out how I am,
3:51:34not based on who you are. So, don't call
3:51:38me an addict like you. You have no idea.
3:51:40I don't even I don't know anything about
3:51:41you. You don't know anything about
3:51:43whatever addictions you may think I have
3:51:45or that I do have. You have no idea.
3:51:49I would bet that you're one of these
3:51:51people, too. It's probably why you like
3:51:53Candace. John Galain says, "You can't
3:51:56win a game of chess by following the
3:51:57rules for checkers. It doesn't work.
3:51:59It's like trying to make an apple pie
3:52:00with oranges on Patrick David's show.
3:52:07>> When you're bringing up, well, Candace,
3:52:09where's your evidence for France doing
3:52:10this? I just told you someone who was
3:52:12high ranking in the French government,
3:52:13right?
3:52:14>> Who's nameless?"
3:52:15>> Of course.
3:52:16>> Of course.
3:52:16>> Of course.
3:52:17>> Of course. Why? Why? Why is it of
3:52:20course? Of course. We don't We don't
3:52:24have any reason for it to be of course.
3:52:26Now, there might be good reason for them
3:52:27to be nameless.
3:52:29But you can't say of course. We don't
3:52:31know. She's like, "Well, of course, you
3:52:34know, I know. We the rabble says, "Quick
3:52:36question. Who's the 11th president and
3:52:38why was he cool? Is it Andrew Jackson?
3:52:42Was he cool because of old hickory?
3:52:45I can't remember. Of course, there's
3:52:47good reason. So, it's not a conspiracy,
3:52:48though. If I then took it to the federal
3:52:50government, like, you can't just go out
3:52:51there making a claim to the federal
3:52:53government. You get in trouble for
3:52:54making false statements and things of
3:52:55that nature. So, and then you go, "Well,
3:52:56I'm going to probe that." Well, how can
3:52:58you probe that this?
3:53:00>> How can you probe Charlie Kirk's murder?
3:53:02You don't have access to the evidence.
3:53:04She's like, "No, I have access to more
3:53:06evidence than you think." You don't know
3:53:08what I think. You don't know how much
3:53:10evidence I think you have access to. I
3:53:11know you don't have access to all the
3:53:13evidence. The prosecutor didn't even
3:53:14have access to all the evidence. What
3:53:16are we talking about? You said earlier
3:53:18the prosecution doesn't have access and
3:53:20the defense doesn't have access. So I
3:53:21know you are lacking in some access. How
3:53:24do you how do you propose to investigate
3:53:25that? But you can't investigate this.
3:53:27Why not? Evidence doesn't seem to be a
3:53:29hurdle for this dummy.
3:53:32>> I can ask you what I'ming specifically.
3:53:34>> This is my podcast. I am sharing my life
3:53:37and my experiences and what has happened
3:53:38to me and you're basically coming in
3:53:40like you're going to what? Regulate what
3:53:42I how I'm allowed to say it.
3:53:45Simon Halbert says, "Ricia Kurt filed a
3:53:48four-page motion crying about opposing
3:53:49council filling in too much text in
3:53:51their five-page motion. Why are we still
3:53:53watching this?" I My pacer is broken,
3:53:57brother. My pacer is fucking broken. I
3:54:00can't I can't even log into Pacer. It
3:54:02says like I I have to like phone call
3:54:04them at certain times during the day,
3:54:07which I've not really had available
3:54:08lately, but um I have to call Pacer to
3:54:12get them to reinstate my account. I
3:54:13tried to make new accounts. It's like,
3:54:14"No, you're this guy. You already have
3:54:15an account." What are you doing? Anyway,
3:54:19I need to also get the recording. You
3:54:22know that uh that there's I think I
3:54:25think you were the one who told me that
3:54:26there's a two and a half hour hearing of
3:54:30of Kurt at uh federal court. I God, I
3:54:33want to want to hear it.
3:54:36>> I'm not trying to regulate anything. I'm
3:54:37asking very question sounding a bit like
3:54:39a professor trying to regulate and say
3:54:41Candace.
3:54:42>> You sound very defensive and like you
3:54:44just don't want to answer questions.
3:54:45>> I I I did answer your question three
3:54:46times. I didn't say it in the way that
3:54:48you wanted.
3:54:49>> Offiscate. Oh shit. I should have known
3:54:51it was James K. Pulk Tuesday.
3:54:55Pulk was the 11th president. Uh and he
3:54:59initiated and fought the Mexican War
3:55:01leading to the uh Southwest becoming the
3:55:03United States. Very cool.
3:55:06Holy shit.
3:55:11>> Instagram. You see she has millions of
3:55:12followers and you think, "Okay,
3:55:18>> okay, we might watch this. We might
3:55:20watch this on the way out of the video
3:55:21or out of the stream in a little bit.
3:55:24>> Can you run away from it?" But I would
3:55:25like you to go through every clip that
3:55:27you guys have prepared because I it's
3:55:29pretty I I
3:55:30>> I think with full confidence people will
3:55:32recognize the
3:55:33>> publicly available on the next prepared.
3:55:36>> Sure. They can pull up whatever clips
3:55:38whatever it is that you guys have
3:55:39prepared. But there but I I would still
3:55:41I on this point I just want to make sure
3:55:43that you have full confidence that
3:55:45France and Israel were involved in the
3:55:46assassination of Charlie Kirk and you
3:55:48have no
3:55:51>> this debate was set up to try and get
3:55:53her sued by who
3:55:57>> how are how is she going to get sued?
3:56:00What what's the attempt to get her sued?
3:56:03Who's going to sue her and for what
3:56:05>> evidence for it at all that you'll give
3:56:07us? Well, the high I I already did tell
3:56:10you where it came from. Like I said, I
3:56:12can explain it to you. I can't
3:56:13understand
3:56:14that.
3:56:16>> Notice she just used the same phrase
3:56:17again. So, I'm guessing someone
3:56:20manifested that one to her. I bet her
3:56:22husband has told her that.
3:56:26I bet I
3:56:31I bet
3:56:33anything
3:56:35that her her very good own phrase that
3:56:39she did on Andrew Wilson, which I gave
3:56:41her credit for yesterday, but now she
3:56:42just used it again. She said, "I can
3:56:45explain it to you. I can't understand it
3:56:47for you."
3:56:51I bet her husband said that.
3:56:56to her. I bet her husband has said that
3:57:01to her. Probably about lightning. I can
3:57:03explain it to you, but I can't
3:57:04understand it for you. I don't have time
3:57:06for this right now, sweetie.
3:57:10>> Killed or that France killed Charlie
3:57:12Kirk or just that you were in danger.
3:57:13>> They said that the French Foreign Legion
3:57:15was involved and on the ground that day.
3:57:17I've already said that. You just don't
3:57:18like hearing it. No,
3:57:20>> just out of curiosity. When you
3:57:21>> Look, I said it and you don't like
3:57:23hearing it. Why wouldn't he like hearing
3:57:24it? What? What about the French Foreign
3:57:27Legion being on the ground? Does Andrew
3:57:29Wilson not like to hear?
3:57:32What What is this?
3:57:34Where are these assertions coming from?
3:57:41Tofu Poncho says her brain is three kids
3:57:44in a trench coat pretending to be an
3:57:46adult. She knows that smart people sound
3:57:48confident and reference evidence. She
3:57:49just fakes the interactions of neurons
3:57:51that connect one to the other.
3:57:55I'm fascinated more than ever by Candace
3:57:57Owens right now. Like I don't I don't
3:58:00care at all what she has to say about
3:58:02any topic other than cognition.
3:58:07>> Pass down that message to a Tulsi or
3:58:10Trump.
3:58:11>> Tulsi's office. Yes.
3:58:12>> Tulsi's office. Are you
3:58:15>> KBG says, "Is that true? French Foreign
3:58:17Legion involved." No.
3:58:21No. There's no evidence that anything
3:58:24like this happened. None.
3:58:28Nothing. Zero. Candace Owens got visited
3:58:33in a dream by a highranking French
3:58:36government official, probably with a
3:58:38covert penis, and she's like, "Oh, the
3:58:41French Fore foreign Legion was on the
3:58:42ground that day. I better tell Tulsy
3:58:44fucking Gabbard." This woman is dumb,
3:58:47dude.
3:58:49She is not bright.
3:58:51dim even.
3:58:55I will investigate. Who are you? Like, I
3:59:00like you. I think you're hilarious, but
3:59:01like Jesus, how are you going to
3:59:04investigate? What's going to happen?
3:59:06giving them who told you that or you're
3:59:09just saying here's what I heard from
3:59:10someone
3:59:11>> and I have this and I have this
3:59:12information and of course if they wanted
3:59:14to open a file on it which I thought was
3:59:16quite mysterious that Trump's office
3:59:18never
3:59:18>> they never wanted to open a file on it.
3:59:23Put yourself in the shoes of the poor
3:59:26sap in Tulsi Gabbard's office who
3:59:28answered the phone that morning.
3:59:31Hello.
3:59:33Hi. I'm Candace Owens. Oh, hey girl.
3:59:35what it is.
3:59:37Yeah. Uh, a high ranking French
3:59:40government official that I'm not going
3:59:41to name unless you open a file on it,
3:59:43and if you do, I will name the names,
3:59:45but I'm not going to until then because
3:59:46I'm in danger. Um, Charlie Kirk was
3:59:50killed and the French Foreign Legion was
3:59:52involved.
3:59:55The fuck you on about? Click. They
3:59:59didn't even want to open a file. How
4:00:01strange. It is a little weird to me.
4:00:03Yeah, it's weird to you. Thinking is
4:00:05weird to you. Cereal is weird to you.
4:00:07Milk is weird to you. Steps are weird to
4:00:10you. Concrete sidewalks are weird to
4:00:12you. Dogs are weird to you. Grass is
4:00:15weird. The whole world is a marvel for
4:00:17people like this. It's like I don't want
4:00:20to do that. I don't want to do that
4:00:21comparison because it's rude to the
4:00:23other people. They walk around in
4:00:25wonderment at all things. Nothing.
4:00:29Remember, she can't learn. She can't
4:00:32actually learn. and knows something. So,
4:00:36everything is constantly bewildering,
4:00:39inspiring, and magical.
4:00:43Every time this chick picks up a phone,
4:00:44like, I'm talking to someone who isn't
4:00:45here. I don't even know if they're real.
4:00:49I'm talking to someone who's not in
4:00:50front of me. Every time, not just when
4:00:53she's four, every time she picks up a
4:00:56phone, she's like, "God, this is
4:00:57amazing. I'm talking to someone who's
4:00:59not even here.
4:01:01They're still not here. I was still
4:01:03getting the phones.
4:01:05So, this is how she Can you imagine
4:01:07walking through your day and being like,
4:01:09"Wonder if that grass is soft."
4:01:13Every time Every time you look down,
4:01:17every time she looks down, that grass
4:01:18might be soft. Every time. I don't know
4:01:21if it is. It could be.
4:01:26I've never checked grass before.
4:01:31She only needs like it's perfect. If she
4:01:33ever like goes to space or whatever, she
4:01:35can bring one VHS tape with one episode
4:01:37on it. She can just watch it over and
4:01:39over. What? It doesn't matter what it
4:01:41is. She'll have never seen it before and
4:01:43she'll never finish it. We the rabble
4:01:45says Candace was on the grassy null. Who
4:01:48the French Foreign Legion told me?
4:01:49Maverick Cuba says, "I just hope one of
4:01:51these days we can get justice for
4:01:52Charlie Kirk and prosecute who did it to
4:01:54the full extent of law." Whoever that
4:01:55may be.
4:01:57It's Tyler Robinson. I don't know what
4:01:58else.
4:02:00The po. Oh yeah, the pawn's face.
4:02:03Fucking magnets. How do they work?
4:02:07Right on the fridge every time she opens
4:02:10the fridge. Still cold. Like it's cold.
4:02:12It's cold in here. It's colder in here
4:02:14than it is where I'm standing.
4:02:17Everything is wonder. It's almost
4:02:20enviable.
4:02:25Proengineer says more and more. She
4:02:26reminds me of that lady at the start of
4:02:28Ghostbusters 2 received information
4:02:30about the end of the world from an alien
4:02:31in a holiday in
4:02:37>> got back to us. It was kind of weird
4:02:39about like from
4:02:41>> you know Gam Tulsi Gabbard's office
4:02:45didn't get back to us about the
4:02:48information that was passed on to me
4:02:50from a confidential source high up in
4:02:52the French government totally trust me
4:02:54bro that I won't tell you the name of
4:02:56they didn't come back they didn't get
4:02:57back to me about that I don't know why
4:02:59they didn't she doesn't know why they
4:03:02didn't she thinks that's strange she
4:03:04thinks that is the weird occurrence she
4:03:06thinks the weird occurrence is at Tulsi
4:03:08Gabbard's office with getting no
4:03:11effective information with no
4:03:13corroboration and no basis from Candace
4:03:15Owens. She thinks that them not calling
4:03:18her back is the strange thing there. I I
4:03:21just can't believe they didn't open a
4:03:22file and call me back.
4:03:25Doesn't occur to her at all that maybe
4:03:28they started investigating it. Maybe
4:03:30they had already been investigating it.
4:03:32Maybe they dismissed it outright. Maybe
4:03:34they laughed at her. Maybe they didn't.
4:03:36Maybe they will start investigating it.
4:03:39It doesn't occur to her at all that
4:03:40maybe they just haven't gotten there
4:03:41yet. Maybe they're waiting on one other
4:03:43piece of evidence or confirmation from
4:03:45an asset in the field. Like, who knows?
4:03:48Or they just more likely went to Dairy
4:03:50Queen and bought a cookie dough Blizzard
4:03:51and put Snickers in it because that's
4:03:53delicious. Or Reese's Peanut Butter
4:03:54Cups. Both good.
4:03:57Both good. Maverick Cuba says the
4:04:00awkward moment when Nick realizes he's
4:04:01in a Khole and has been ranting at a
4:04:03stuffed elephant in a bookshelf for an
4:04:05hour.
4:04:08I'm gonna guess uh I don't know if
4:04:10you've ever been in a khole, but
4:04:13don't do much talking
4:04:18or I don't
4:04:21you know I did I did I did do ketamine
4:04:25with someone who talked the entire time.
4:04:30The entire time.
4:04:37That was weird. I was like, "Stop
4:04:39talking.
4:04:42Shh. You're loud. Stop it." I love
4:04:46comments like this. These are good. Uh,
4:04:49Nick, you look and sound crazy. You have
4:04:52hit rock rock bottom and need help. Oh,
4:04:56have I?
4:04:58Do you think I've hit rock bottom? I
4:04:59don't even know where rock bottom is.
4:05:01And I brought a drill. I'm going deeper,
4:05:03baby.
4:05:03>> That maybe they're not the correct
4:05:05office. Was it with your kids,
4:05:09Bob? Tube, that's the funniest thing
4:05:10you've ever said. Damn it,
4:05:15too. I did receive a response from uh
4:05:17Tulsi Gabbard's office, but I
4:05:20>> I've never done ketamine with Ralph and
4:05:23I don't think tow's ever done ketamine.
4:05:27>> Was ever any investigation into what I
4:05:29said? So the call was, hey,
4:05:32the email was, I've been told,
4:05:36yeah, that that that the French Foreign
4:05:39Legion was on the ground during
4:05:40Charlie's assassination. Um,
4:05:43>> okay.
4:05:47Yet again,
4:05:49yet again,
4:05:53I don't believe any of this happened. I
4:05:54have no reason to believe any of this
4:05:56happened. There's no evidence supporting
4:05:58this. I have an email and I I send it to
4:06:02Saly Gab says I have information. What's
4:06:04the information? Okay, doesn't matter. I
4:06:07don't believe this.
4:06:10But let's
4:06:12for a second assume arguendo
4:06:16that the French Foreign Legion was on
4:06:19the ground, whatever that means. Because
4:06:22what does that mean? What does the
4:06:25French Foreign Legion being on the
4:06:27ground when Charlie Kirk was
4:06:29assassinated mean?
4:06:34I don't want you to get to fall into the
4:06:36trap of thinking you understand that
4:06:38phrase. You might think you might be
4:06:41tempted to go, I know what that means.
4:06:43You don't. You know why you don't?
4:06:46Because Candace doesn't know what that
4:06:48phrase means. And you cannot rely on her
4:06:51to possess
4:06:54a common understanding of what she just
4:06:56said. You can't. So, you can't know what
4:06:58she means. But let's assume whatever she
4:07:01means is true. The French Foreign Legion
4:07:05is whatever this means on the ground
4:07:08Charlie Kirk is murdered.
4:07:12Candace takes that and goes, "Therefore,
4:07:17the French Foreign Legion is involved in
4:07:20the murder of Charlie Kirk.
4:07:24Think about how ludicrous
4:07:28how ludicrous that is.
4:07:31Think about
4:07:33how ludicrous
4:07:37that line of thinking is.
4:07:40There is nothing that connects French
4:07:42Foreign Legion being on the ground
4:07:46to Charlie Kirk being murdered and them
4:07:48being invol involved in that. Nothing.
4:07:50There's nothing about that. You know
4:07:52why? There were Mormons on the ground
4:07:55that day. There were Democrats on the
4:07:58ground that day. We've been told
4:07:59explicitly that it wasn't leftists,
4:08:02right? We know it wasn't leftists. We
4:08:04know that. Wasn't that that was wrong.
4:08:07That was just a narrative. That was a
4:08:08cover up. We know it wasn't them. There
4:08:10were leftists on the ground or rightists
4:08:12on the ground. There were writers on the
4:08:14ground. There's probably a German maybe.
4:08:18None of that. That's just those are two
4:08:21temporally
4:08:23related by proximity only occurrences.
4:08:27They're not cause and effect. There's no
4:08:29evidence linking them together. So let's
4:08:31say the French Foreign Legion was on the
4:08:33ground that day. Okay,
4:08:37that means that means they were
4:08:38involved. How
4:08:41how does that mean they were involved?
4:08:43Like what how were they involved? What
4:08:44does that what does that mean? What does
4:08:46involvement mean to you? Candace is a
4:08:49person you can't you can't listen to the
4:08:51words that come out of her mouth and
4:08:53think you know what she's talking about.
4:08:55You can't.
4:08:57It's probably what makes her fascinating
4:08:59to listen to, but you're relying on her
4:09:01understanding the words and she has a
4:09:04propensity
4:09:07for using words that she doesn't
4:09:10understand.
4:09:13Instagram, you see she has millions of
4:09:14followers and you think, okay, this is
4:09:15an illiterate person. It's kind of read
4:09:17books. I'm just fascinated with learning
4:09:19real history because I think that truth
4:09:22is kind of I mean what what actually has
4:09:24happened the events of our world is
4:09:26obviously as the expression goes way
4:09:28stranger in fiction. To do it again,
4:09:30>> way stranger in fiction. Yeah, that's
4:09:32how it goes. Um I am I have zero
4:09:36surprise that Candace Owens thinks she
4:09:39likes history.
4:09:41You know why? History is a perfect
4:09:46a perfect filing cabinet subject heavy
4:09:50on independent facts.
4:09:54Date, time, name, location,
4:09:58uh, government, blah, blah, blah.
4:10:00Individual things that those aren't
4:10:02related. None of those have any
4:10:04relation. I'm not surprised at all that
4:10:06history. She's like, history? That's
4:10:08great. The other person I know who's
4:10:11just like this, guess what their
4:10:13favorite subject is? History. Guess
4:10:16what? They know nothing about, they
4:10:19don't know about history. They can
4:10:21recite facts about history just fine.
4:10:23They don't know anything about them. Not
4:10:25a thing. Not a thing. I bet Candace
4:10:27Owens could recite to you a bunch of
4:10:29facts about any particular political
4:10:31conflict and not be able to discern
4:10:33anything from those facts or tell you
4:10:35any facts about the conflict other than
4:10:38when,
4:10:39who, where, that's all she knows, not
4:10:42why. Um,
4:10:45and posthumously, Charlie Kirk, the
4:10:47founder of TPUSA, will be posthumously
4:10:50honored a posthumis award. They've
4:10:52decided posthumously for accepted those
4:10:55posthumous terms. S C I which stands for
4:11:00a sensitive compartmented you got if you
4:11:03can't compartmentalize and a CEO and a
4:11:05chairman has to compartmentalize. The
4:11:07IDF even dropped NAP 12 and a half miles
4:11:10off the coast of the Sai Peninsula. Is
4:11:12that correct? When you arrive into the
4:11:13Sai Peninsula
4:11:14>> Sinai
4:11:15>> illiterate person in Portland, Oregon
4:11:17the Hampton's debacle came up Hampton's.
4:11:19Okay. Remember that whole debacle? We
4:11:20knew a kuruffle happened because this
4:11:22this dress kurl fluff which causes this
4:11:24whole race kurluffle ways to honor
4:11:26Charlie. Stop telling us that it has to
4:11:28always be Miss Mackaba like retired
4:11:31green barret allegedly with heart attack
4:11:33normal passion not this like chat GBT.
4:11:36At last I check everybody uses the
4:11:39terminology blitz blitz cre everybody.
4:11:43And so I called it blitz egg week. I
4:11:45can't even say a blitz means lightning.
4:11:49>> Cre means war.
4:11:51>> Blitz means lightning.
4:11:56Cre means war. Probably not thunder.
4:12:01Bdozer over on Rumble says, "What's up,
4:12:04Fag? What's up to you, Fag? He's raided
4:12:06the stream." Welcome to Bulldozer and
4:12:09his ilk.
4:12:12This uh video is brought to you by
4:12:13Bucklebush Jones or brought to us by
4:12:16Bucklebush Jones. I don't know. I don't
4:12:17know if they made it, but
4:12:19>> even the NFL football team say Blitz
4:12:21Creek like God like no he never he just
4:12:24liked the architecture smells and the
4:12:25bells he loved the architecture. It was
4:12:28the architecture
4:12:29>> like Yeah. No, like he loved the
4:12:30architecture. I think this may have been
4:12:32about more than the architecture. Jewish
4:12:35people were in control of the slave
4:12:36trade. They buried a lot of it. Buried
4:12:38the Charlie Kirk story. What about his
4:12:40uh burial? How come we haven't seen
4:12:41anything about Alex Jones was just
4:12:44burying himself and Alex Jones jumps
4:12:46into the beret?
4:12:47>> Mock me and Tucker Carlson. It's always
4:12:50got to be Tucker Carlson. Camera sewins.
4:12:52And of course, the world is quite
4:12:54literally a stage. By the way, I always
4:12:55wonder where that expression comes from.
4:12:56Can you look that up, Skyler? The world
4:12:58is a stage. Where is that from? I
4:13:00actually don't know where that's from
4:13:01originally. That would be interesting to
4:13:03see.
4:13:03>> Totally like insane Alice in Wonderland.
4:13:06And then like all of a sudden there's
4:13:07like a cat who's like
4:13:11>> Ellie Vel by Eli Whitel mentioning Elie
4:13:14Weasel Ellie Weasel. Oh it's
4:13:16Shakespeareian
4:13:19Worlds of Stage. Interesting.
4:13:21Very interesting.
4:13:23>> You have a favorite book?
4:13:24>> Um
4:13:27listen I mean I read a lot. I don't know
4:13:28if I have a favorite book.
4:13:31>> Nothing favorite. All right, I'll take
4:13:32it
4:13:32>> because that's what she is. She's
4:13:43she can't have a favorite book. She
4:13:46can't She may even be able to recite to
4:13:48you every word on the page. Like she may
4:13:50have that she might have like an idetic
4:13:52memory but she just cannot
4:13:55nothing coaleses into a into a abstract
4:14:00concept. She gives you doesn't work.
4:14:03Does not work.
4:14:06>> All right.
4:14:12>> Here we go.
4:14:15>> Uh, and that I mean I it was a lot of
4:14:18information, but like
4:14:19>> Well, you didn't give specifics who it
4:14:20was from.
4:14:21>> Not in the first email cuz I figured
4:14:22they would like
4:14:23>> Perfect. So, if they do contact you,
4:14:26>> are you comfortable giving 100% who it
4:14:28is? I would absolutely give them as much
4:14:30information.
4:14:30>> Can I ask a question? If if whoever is
4:14:32the US government, why are you not
4:14:34>> Yes. It's very strange to me,
4:14:36>> you know. So, Simon Hbert, thanks case.
4:14:38Now, you they may respond back and say,
4:14:40"We did." You know, that's their
4:14:41position.
4:14:41>> That's why I did it in writing.
4:14:43>> And guys, you're asking if Candace has
4:14:45had work done. She's a media person
4:14:47married to a multiund millionaire. Yes,
4:14:50of course, she's had work done. Probably
4:14:52very good work. Uh that that is very
4:14:55well concealed, very careful, very well
4:14:58planned and very well executed, pretty
4:15:00expensive. Yeah, of course. Of course
4:15:03she's had work done.
4:15:07I say it with full confidence in my
4:15:09thinking. Mr. Miller in flow state.
4:15:12Thank you, Mr. Miller.
4:15:15>> So I'm glad that's the case because
4:15:17>> so so if they
4:15:18>> and right away in Trump's office his
4:15:20like Margot got right back to me. said
4:15:22it was on his desk. So he he has that.
4:15:24There's no
4:15:24>> And if you do say that,
4:15:27>> why is it the president dropped
4:15:28everything to investigate the French
4:15:31Foreign Legion being on the ground when
4:15:33Charlie Kirk was shot? On the ground.
4:15:35What does on the ground mean to her?
4:15:39Uh Bdozer 74 says, "I'd hate fuck
4:15:42Candace if single." Wait, if you're
4:15:45single or if she's single?
4:15:50and they contact that individual.
4:15:52Obviously, you don't have to leak your
4:15:53sources here.
4:15:54>> Is there enough credibility that someone
4:15:56be willing to talk to them and explain
4:15:58to them
4:15:59>> says, "Don't know how far I can push
4:16:00this chat. I'm being a good boy. I'm new
4:16:02to the neighborhood. Just checking in,
4:16:04checking it out, and I like the host."
4:16:06Hey, thanks. I like you, too. I've sent
4:16:07you nudes already. Um, my chat's
4:16:10relatively free. Relatively free. uh
4:16:14people the the main the main rules of
4:16:17you're on Rumble so that's up to you to
4:16:20do whatever you want for the most part
4:16:22like I don't care um the main things two
4:16:26two main things one don't spam there's
4:16:28no reason to spam you can share whatever
4:16:30ideas that you want um I'm not here to
4:16:33stop you from sharing your ideas uh your
4:16:36ideas your commentary whatever and
4:16:39people are free to agree disagree with
4:16:41me you can insult me you can not insult
4:16:43me I don't
4:16:44doesn't bother me. That part's fine. Uh,
4:16:47anyone who says anything particularly
4:16:49horrendous about a family member of
4:16:51mine, um, you know, depending on my
4:16:55mood, you might get banned. Like, just
4:16:56there's no reason to do that. Uh,
4:17:01have a history of people saying some
4:17:02very inappropriate things about my kids,
4:17:05and that's fine. Not about my parenting,
4:17:07mind you. That's a different thing.
4:17:10Also, if you're too much of a faggot,
4:17:13uh, we'll set a super chat goal and ban
4:17:16you.
4:17:16>> What their sources are.
4:17:17>> Yes.
4:17:18>> Okay. I mean, that's
4:17:19>> that seems reasonable. And so, why he's
4:17:20asking me to defend that is like,
4:17:22>> I'm not.
4:17:23>> I think those are two different things.
4:17:24That's more something different. Why are
4:17:26they not reaching out to you?
4:17:28>> I've asked that many times on my
4:17:29>> Why aren't they reaching out to you?
4:17:31because she's anard.
4:17:36Can you believe these people?
4:17:40Why aren't they reaching out to you?
4:17:41I've asked that question many times. I'm
4:17:43sure you ask it over and over because
4:17:45you never have an answer. And if someone
4:17:47answered you, you'd still ask it.
4:17:52Hold on. I want to go back to that
4:17:54because
4:17:58Patrick Bed David was a terrible choice
4:18:00for a moderator mainly because he's a
4:18:03fucking idiot too. All these people
4:18:04these people are like the dumbest
4:18:06people.
4:18:08>> So if that's the case now, they may
4:18:11respond back and say we did, you know,
4:18:12that's their position.
4:18:13>> That's why I did it in writing.
4:18:15>> And so I'm glad that's the case because
4:18:17>> so so if they
4:18:18>> and right away in Trump's office his
4:18:20like Margot got right back to me. He
4:18:22said it was on his desk, so he has that.
4:18:24There's no
4:18:24>> And if you do say,
4:18:26>> Brooke, Brooke, you got to be joking,
4:18:28right? She says she sent actionable
4:18:30evidence because I assume you're joking.
4:18:33You got it. Like that's got to be
4:18:34joking.
4:18:34>> That and they contact that individual.
4:18:37Obviously, you don't have to leak your
4:18:38sources here.
4:18:39>> Is there enough credibility where that
4:18:41person would be willing to talk to them
4:18:42and explain to them exactly what their
4:18:44sources are?
4:18:45>> Yes.
4:18:45>> Okay. I mean, that's it.
4:18:46>> Seems reasonable. And so why he's asking
4:18:48me to def
4:18:52She's like, "I can't believe he would
4:18:54ask me to defend this. I can't believe
4:18:57it. Why is he doing that?" Patrick Bav's
4:18:59like, "I don't know. I don't know why he
4:19:01would want any confirmation." You notice
4:19:04her source is just her.
4:19:07Yeah. I'd be fully willing to talk.
4:19:10They'd be fully willing to talk. They
4:19:12would give all the information to
4:19:14whoever needs it in the government. So,
4:19:16I don't know why he's challenging this.
4:19:20He doesn't know what you think. You
4:19:23know, she doesn't realize that he
4:19:26doesn't. She's like, I think this, so he
4:19:28must think this. Fucking stupid. I I
4:19:32can't take it. Maverick Cuba says, "Some
4:19:35say Candace Owens is Tyler Robinson is
4:19:37Turtle Boy is Karen Reed. I'm seeing the
4:19:40similarities." Oh, no.
4:19:44>> That is like
4:19:45>> I'm not never.
4:19:46>> I think those are two different things.
4:19:48That's mostly different. Why are they
4:19:50not reaching out to you?
4:19:51>> I've asked that many times on my
4:19:53podcast.
4:19:54>> What do you think about that, Andrew?
4:19:56>> What?
4:19:56>> The fact that she emailed
4:19:58>> Andrew cannot like
4:20:01this is one of the It's one of the best
4:20:03things from him so far this debate. He's
4:20:06been they've been th those two dummies
4:20:09have been having a conversation and
4:20:11Andrew is like, "What does this have to
4:20:13do with anything at all?" All he asked,
4:20:18all he asked was, "Can you give me any
4:20:20more information?" She's like, "I can't
4:20:22believe you would want more." All she
4:20:25has to say is, "No, I can't. I'm not
4:20:27going to on this show. Let's move on."
4:20:30That's it. He can't like force her to do
4:20:33it. He can't do any of that. Instead,
4:20:35she's like, "I don't see why you'd want
4:20:37it. I can't believe you would ask that."
4:20:40Patrick Ben David, can you believe he
4:20:41would ask that? I don't know why he
4:20:42asked that. Like, so Andrew just shut
4:20:46like he shuts off. He's like, "Okay,
4:20:47I'll just sit here. This is relevant."
4:20:50And then Patrick V David's like, "So why
4:20:53haven't they got back to you?" And she's
4:20:55like, "Uh, I don't know. I ask on my
4:20:58podcast every day." And then he looks at
4:21:02Andrew Wilson, "What do you think about
4:21:03that?" And Andrew Wilson is like, "I'm
4:21:06sorry.
4:21:07I'm sorry. What? Like what? What do you
4:21:10mean? What do you mean? What do I think
4:21:12about that?
4:21:14Uh, Sunderwear, Sunderwear
4:21:18sent a member chat says, "Uh, happy one
4:21:21year. Found out wife is pregnant. Any
4:21:23advice member for 12 months?" Yes,
4:21:27you're going to have to upgrade your
4:21:28membership to super lawyer and subscribe
4:21:31locals on the thousand level for
4:21:33parenting advice.
4:21:36Candace Owens, I just said parenting.
4:21:39Fuck. No.
4:21:43I hate you. No, no, no, man. So, it's
4:21:47simple. Just relax. Just relax. Get
4:21:50appropriate medical care. Be prepared.
4:21:53Be calm.
4:21:56>> Oh, she gave it and nobody reached out
4:21:58to want to contact the source.
4:22:00>> Probably didn't think it was actionable
4:22:01is my guess. But even if they did think
4:22:03it was actionable, great. Every lead
4:22:06should be followed up on within the
4:22:08confines of what's rational and
4:22:09reasonable. Is it fair to say that this
4:22:11is maybe a different individual because
4:22:13this is a person that was involved with
4:22:15TPS had a relationship with Char? No.
4:22:18No. Her relationship like this isn't
4:22:21just anybody. So,
4:22:24>> do you think the White House should
4:22:26contact her back?
4:22:28>> No. Nobody cares. Who cares? She's not
4:22:33law enforcement. She gave them the
4:22:35information that she has.
4:22:38She reported it. It's like I would give
4:22:40them I would give them more information.
4:22:43They may not want it. They may not care.
4:22:44They probably already know. They don't
4:22:48But she had relationship with Charlie
4:22:50Kirk. So who cares?
4:22:53Who is this Neanderthal? Why do people
4:22:56listen to this dummy? Why do any of
4:22:59these people have a voice anywhere?
4:23:03He blows my mind.
4:23:09Yeah, the screen chat is messed up. I
4:23:11don't know if uh I don't know if I can
4:23:13fix it either.
4:23:15Oh, there we go.
4:23:20But she Kenda's
4:23:23friend Charlie
4:23:25an average person sends it. Yes.
4:23:27>> Yeah, but I mean we don't know who the
4:23:29source is. We don't know any of So then
4:23:31if it wouldn't you if you were in that
4:23:34department wouldn't you want to assign
4:23:36it to one of your guys?
4:23:37>> There's no guarantee they didn't look
4:23:38into it. How do we know? We don't come
4:23:42with the information more of the
4:23:48>> How could they look into it if they
4:23:52didn't get more of the information?
4:23:56She cannot fathom
4:23:59that
4:24:02that someone else might have provided
4:24:06this information. She can't fathom that.
4:24:09She can't fathom that they may already
4:24:11know. She can't She can't even
4:24:16I'm beating on this.
4:24:18I'm beating on this like a dick on a
4:24:20Thursday night, man. like but she can't
4:24:26figure any reason that any of these
4:24:29things might happen. None. She can't get
4:24:32there. Patrick BD David obviously also
4:24:35stupid. He's like why wouldn't they how
4:24:38could they figure it out? I don't know.
4:24:40Maybe they tapped her phone or her email
4:24:42or maybe maybe they listened to her
4:24:44singing about it in this shower. Maybe
4:24:47maybe that high-ranking French
4:24:49government official told another person
4:24:52who also reported it and gave up the
4:24:54information. Maybe they're more
4:24:55trustworthy. Maybe they were working
4:24:57with a French foreign legion. Maybe uh
4:24:59they have CIA assets in in France or in
4:25:03Morocco or in Algeria and those CIA
4:25:07assets have given them information about
4:25:08the Foreign Legion. Like what? Any
4:25:11number of reasons. Why
4:25:14at all does contacting Candace Owens
4:25:17matter? See, for Candace, this is
4:25:20evidence of a conspiracy.
4:25:25That for her, that's what this is. She's
4:25:27like, if I were them, I would have
4:25:29contacted me. We know you can't possibly
4:25:35imagine being anybody else when you're
4:25:38someone else. You're just you in their
4:25:41body. She cannot abstract her own
4:25:44personality away. She can't. She's
4:25:47incapable of this. It's amazing to
4:25:49encounter this. Bdozer says, "Where's my
4:25:535K gift?" At least tickle our pickles a
4:25:55little bit, dude. You rock. Haters going
4:25:56to hate. Live long and prosper. There
4:25:58are no chicks with dicks, only dudes
4:26:00with boobs. Nope.
4:26:02Wait. Yep. I I don't know. John Galain
4:26:05says, "No one can walk into Washington
4:26:06DC and inform it, let alone change it.
4:26:09It changes everyone that comes at it."
4:26:11What about who comes in it?
4:26:17>> She's $100 million. Who cares?
4:26:20>> It was a long file.
4:26:22>> This is a separate This has got nothing
4:26:23to do with the debate. This is more on
4:26:25on uh
4:26:26>> Well, I just I sent the email assuming
4:26:28that's saying you go and you you make a
4:26:30report. you think they're going to come
4:26:32back to you and say, "Hey, what's more?"
4:26:36>> This is a woman who claims special
4:26:37knowledge on everything. You go and you
4:26:39make a report and you think they're
4:26:41going to come back to you. How many
4:26:43reports have you made to a federal law
4:26:45investigative body?
4:26:48That's not that's not what they tend to
4:26:50do.
4:26:52That's not what they tend they'll
4:26:53sometimes tell you like, "We've got an
4:26:55agent who's going to contact you to get
4:26:56more information." Then you can expect
4:26:58them to do so. But if if you don't have
4:27:00that, why do you think they're going to?
4:27:03Well, I would expect that. It's because
4:27:04you don't know what you're doing. It's
4:27:06cuz you're not a you're not a federal
4:27:08investigative law enforcement officer
4:27:14or information. We're investigating this
4:27:15and that didn't happen, which is what I
4:27:16raised. Did you send especially because
4:27:18this was at a time where they were
4:27:19saying that they wanted to explore every
4:27:22possible lead with I even texted Dan
4:27:24Bonino. Actually, it was three it was
4:27:26three offices.
4:27:26>> Let me ask one question.
4:27:27>> Executive office Dan Bonino
4:27:30>> and uh the and Tulsi Gabbert's office.
4:27:33>> Okay. So, follow is the following.
4:27:37>> These offices get thousands of tips a
4:27:40week ac across myriad subjects.
4:27:45Why didn't they follow up with mine?
4:27:47Maybe they did. They just didn't follow
4:27:48up with you. See, for her again, Candace
4:27:51Owens, if it doesn't happen to her, it
4:27:53doesn't happen. They didn't follow up
4:27:54because they didn't follow up with her.
4:27:56They would have to follow up with her.
4:27:57There's no conceivable way her
4:28:00information could be anywhere else.
4:28:03>> If they contact you to say, is that
4:28:06specifically to the French government or
4:28:08Israel's involvement in the killing of
4:28:09children?
4:28:10>> It wasn't that wasn't about Israel. Two
4:28:11separate things.
4:28:11>> That wasn't about Israel. It was they
4:28:13were saying the French foreign that
4:28:14person as a part of it was saying that
4:28:15it was the French foreign legion that
4:28:17was on the ground that day.
4:28:17>> I'm surprised they haven't called you
4:28:19then. I I find that to be very strange.
4:28:20I do as well
4:28:21>> because who would want make a report
4:28:22like I mean I've never made a report
4:28:23with the federal government.
4:28:24>> Let me ask you one question. Let me just
4:28:26ask one question. Mhm.
4:28:27>> Let me just ask one question and I'm I'm
4:28:28I'm going to bring you
4:28:29>> Andrew Wilson has been trying to ask the
4:28:32same question for five minutes now.
4:28:35>> All he's trying to do All he's trying to
4:28:37find out. He's like, "But when you sent
4:28:39it, I I understand that you emailed it."
4:28:42He He can I'm not even praising him. Uh
4:28:46he possesses at least the rudimentary
4:28:49understanding of email of like a
4:28:5210-year-old. All right. He understands
4:28:54that she sent an email. He knows what
4:28:56that means. All he wants to know is when
4:28:59you sent it,
4:29:01did you provide
4:29:04the name or like something identifiable
4:29:08about your source or the subject? Like
4:29:10that's what he wants to know. Did you
4:29:11give them enough for them to not need
4:29:14you? It's always asking. Can't get it
4:29:17out. These two are like, whoa, we should
4:29:19explore this. I wonder let's investigate
4:29:22the federal government for not
4:29:23investigating
4:29:26>> to you. Sure. The question is in regards
4:29:28to I've not seen that clip
4:29:31>> Nazi Brook says it was an offer. Yeah,
4:29:35but again I have this information. Do
4:29:38you guys want it?
4:29:45Candace, you just asked out the
4:29:47quarterback to prom and he didn't call
4:29:49you for a week.
4:29:53If you go to prom alone, you'll find out
4:29:55why
4:29:59she cannot fathom.
4:30:03She cannot fathom in any way that they
4:30:08You guys are with me on this, right?
4:30:10Like you can follow the possibility that
4:30:13the federal government
4:30:15who has very complex relations with the
4:30:18Isn't France a five eyes country?
4:30:23France is a five eyes country, right? So
4:30:25we we share all all uh espionage
4:30:30information with each other. The agents
4:30:33are like French foreign legion agents on
4:30:36US soil is probably done with the
4:30:38knowledge of the White House.
4:30:50Okay. So, they're not five eyes. Okay.
4:30:51Okay.
4:30:53I would still wonder if our French
4:30:55surveillance treaty or French espionage
4:30:58treaty has similar provisions in it.
4:31:07Thank you for answering that.
4:31:11Lars Larson says they'd have to be
4:31:13registered agents. Yeah. And
4:31:17she cannot fathom that they might
4:31:20already know.
4:31:22It's it's
4:31:24it's kind of their job to know. If they
4:31:26don't know, it could cause an
4:31:27international incident. Although those
4:31:29those sometimes happen between our
4:31:31European friends and us and then they
4:31:34kind of resolve it in back channels and
4:31:37sometimes they don't. But like
4:31:40if there's foreign legion agents on the
4:31:43ground in the United States
4:31:46in their capacity of representing the
4:31:48foreign legion
4:31:51your first thought should be white house
4:31:53probably knows about this. So she
4:31:55informs them. Now, let's say the White
4:31:57House didn't know. Why in God's name
4:32:02would they go back to Candace Owens? Why
4:32:04would they get back to a media
4:32:06personality who's just as likely to blab
4:32:08about it?
4:32:11Who's been who's been, by the way,
4:32:13blaming the federal government
4:32:15specifically and explicitly for the
4:32:17death of Charlie Kirk? This could be one
4:32:20like this could be the seed of trying to
4:32:24get an end to the government, get a
4:32:26special quote, get a gotcha moment,
4:32:28record something surreptitiously. They
4:32:30have no motivation to contact Candace
4:32:33Owens just by basic common sense. Why
4:32:36would they?
4:32:36>> So I'm seeing it now.
4:32:37>> The full I'm full confidence I believe
4:32:39that Israel French was involved. Is that
4:32:42also based on a source that somebody
4:32:45told you that Israel
4:32:47>> somebody told me the French Foreign
4:32:50Legion they killed Charlie Kirk and they
4:32:53were assisted by the Jews
4:32:56>> was involved in the assassination of
4:32:58Charlie Kirk or is that a gut feeling?
4:33:00>> Uh so in terms of Israel I mean what
4:33:03I've said is what I publicly have said
4:33:05here. I do think that at the end of this
4:33:08we are going to find that Israel was
4:33:10involved. I do. Uh now when in terms of
4:33:15>> belief, belief, belief, belief, no
4:33:18evidence. The entire debate, no
4:33:20evidence, nothing. Nothing but belief.
4:33:27All right, here's the thing, guys. We
4:33:29got an hour and a half. Fuck. No, we got
4:33:32another hour done today. I
4:33:35I need I need a break from these people.
4:33:37These people are fucking stupid and I
4:33:40can't take it anymore.
4:33:43I can't take it. This This interview is
4:33:45dragging. It's gone way off in the
4:33:46weeds. Andrew Wilson isn't even talking.
4:33:48He's just he's relaxing. And I'm not
4:33:50blaming him for that. They're talking
4:33:52about something that is completely
4:33:54unrelated to any debate claim.
4:33:59Sandrew Wilson's like checked out. He's
4:34:01just going to wait to be tapped on the
4:34:02shoulder by fucking Goliath over there
4:34:04and then they'll get back to it. Maybe
4:34:06this is this is maybe worn its uh
4:34:09welcome out, but I am going to wrap up
4:34:12for the night.
4:34:15I got a bunch of work to do. Uh Simon
4:34:17Halbert, no. Um we're not going to do a
4:34:19curt.
4:34:22I need I need to wrap up for the night.
4:34:29Thank you guys for joining me.
4:34:32I think
4:34:35what I believe I have discovered about
4:34:37Candace has made me remarkably happy
4:34:41because I'm pretty sure I'm right. I'm
4:34:45pretty sure I have this one pegged,
4:34:58but I could be wrong. I could be wrong.
4:35:00I'm going to call the White House. I'll
4:35:01see if they get back to me on this. All
4:35:03right.
4:35:09Kaufman 921 says, "Happy Sunday, Nick.
4:35:11How are your CL's going?" Well, I took
4:35:13my daughter and my wife to the mall in
4:35:15America yesterday and then uh this past
4:35:19day I caught up on some sleep and uh had
4:35:23some other stuff that I had to do. So, I
4:35:26really didn't get um any more done. I
4:35:29I'm at 33 and 1/2 hours. Uh which means
4:35:32I have 11 and 1/2 hour.
4:35:36Yeah, 11 and 1/2 hours left, which I'll
4:35:39probably complete start right when I
4:35:41wake up.
4:35:43Elite uh Sally Toys sent some jewels.
4:35:46Thank you so much. Thank you to
4:35:47everybody who sent in a membership chat,
4:35:49a super chat, a super tip, Rumble rants,
4:35:53any of those things. Thank you to all of
4:35:55that participation. You guys make these
4:35:58shows uh doable.
4:36:01You make them doable. You make them
4:36:03possible. And I really appreciate that.
4:36:06Um
4:36:10I think we got everything.
4:36:12Uh we have 23 new members today. Make
4:36:14sure you hit like on the way out. Make
4:36:17sure you hit like. Um I hope you're
4:36:19enjoying these debate analysis streams
4:36:22and stuff like that. Uh, and I know I
4:36:25know some of you out there really like
4:36:27the the long content. So, I've been
4:36:29trying to make sure that I have enough
4:36:31time to do more than just like two hours
4:36:34and stuff because uh I know some of you
4:36:36guys uh even if you're watching on
4:36:38replay or like watching at work and
4:36:40getting through a workday and stuff like
4:36:42that. So, I again really really
4:36:44appreciate it. Kaufman 921 gifted five
4:36:48memberships right there at the end.
4:36:51With that, guys, uh, make sure you thank
4:36:54Kaufman if you got a gifted membership.
4:36:55And remember, I am not suicidal. I'm not
4:36:59suicidal. I am a ton of fun. I'm a fun
4:37:02guy. Ton of fun.
4:37:05With that, I'll see you very soon. Have
4:37:08a good night. Peace.
4:37:12I am not suicidal.
4:37:14That's what I was about to say. I'm not
4:37:17suicidal. Okay. I am not suicidal. I am
4:37:21innocent and I am not suicidal. And I am
4:37:24not suicidal. And if anything happens to
4:37:26me when I go in there, I did not do it
4:37:29to myself. And you must all know that I
4:37:32am not suicidal. Okay?

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