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0:05Yes, guys. Suki for BTS TV. Today I've
0:07got Patrick Shaw. Patrick, I had to get
0:11you on ASAP. Why? Because wow, we saw a
0:15big statement from Nihhat on the
0:17weekend. I fortunately wasn't there, but
0:20I'm very thankful to David who was
0:22sending me a lot of content. It was all
0:24over his socials.
0:26Patrick,
0:28first place to start. Wow, incredible.
0:31You must be a happy man.
0:35>> Um, yes. Um, I'm happy. Well, first of
0:37all, because
0:39um, we wanted to display progress. You
0:42know, what people don't realize,
0:44especially when I read comments online
0:47is how young Niad is, but really don't
0:51contextualize this youth. you know, how
0:54long does it take um no matter how
0:57talented you are to build a certain
0:59level of physique, completeness, you
1:01know, from head to toe, red to uh right
1:04to left. And what I saw on that stage
1:09was
1:11very close to what I, you know, I know
1:13he can be just in terms of how complete
1:15he is. There's no missing body parts
1:18anymore. There's no holes in his
1:20physique. And that to me was probably
1:23even more important than than winning.
1:25Obviously winning uh we need that
1:28qualification for the Olympia, but just
1:30to see him um in his back poses having
1:34that
1:36hamstring so wide, not having any gaps
1:40anymore and just the completeness to his
1:42physique uh was was very very special
1:45and that for me was the most important.
1:48You you mentioned about gaps in his
1:50physique. What gaps did you see from he
1:53was fourth place at Olympia last year to
1:56up until now? So what gaps are you
1:58referring to that you've made
2:00improvements in?
2:02>> Well, the the first um I think point uh
2:06that was a little bit missing at Olympia
2:09were his legs. His upper body compared
2:12to his legs and I mean front, side, and
2:15back. Um
2:17the the legs are still a little on the
2:19small side, especially in those back
2:21shots. And I posted um a comparison
2:24today. You could see there's still a big
2:27gap in between his legs. He had good
2:30hamstring separation. He always had
2:31that, but he was just not covering up
2:34enough space. And now he can pose with
2:36the legs a little more open, which gives
2:38his quads a little more flare and the
2:41and the ductors touch in the middle of
2:42the legs. So just the sheer size from
2:45the back of his legs has improved. And
2:48to be honest with you, in 8 months,
2:52such an improvement I've never seen in
2:54my life on anybody. I mean, just he he
2:56went to work and he took it seriously,
2:58but I never thought that it would
3:00possible in that short amount of time to
3:03really feel uh those legs so much. And
3:06then from the front, the legs always had
3:08a nice shape to him, but they were still
3:11a little straight uh compared to the
3:13upper body just because he's very wide
3:15up top and he needed a little more size
3:18to his quads. And now from the front,
3:19those quads are filled out. From the
3:22side, they're really big. And now from
3:24the back, I think aside from Keon,
3:27nobody in on the Olympia stage has that
3:30hamstring
3:32wise from the back. Nobody can match
3:35that.
3:36wrong. Is he 23 or 24?
3:39>> Um, he's still 23, I think.
3:41>> Oh my god, that's ridiculous.
3:44>> He's still 23 years old. And that's what
3:47he's looking like right now. It's just
3:50absolutely mindblowing. I mean, look,
3:53there was arguably there was going to be
3:54some pressure on him going into Portugal
3:57because he's such a big name. He is
3:59number four in the world and I think you
4:03know has so many messages the moment
4:05people saw him on that revolving stage
4:08just hitting a front relax it was like
4:11well there is that's that is just
4:13bodybuilding just a beautiful physique
4:16and then to remind yourself that he is
4:1823
4:20and my god the sky's is the limit for
4:22this kid.
4:24>> Yeah. Um I always knew um you know we
4:27started working when he was 19 before he
4:30even got his pro card and the structure
4:33has always been there. You know that's
4:34something you're born with. Um but I'm
4:38myself surprised
4:41how much his physique is complete right
4:44now. I never thought it would be
4:46possible to uh not only to have the
4:49structure and obviously the genetics to
4:51put on muscle but also NAT's
4:55work ethic and taking those criticisms
4:59really to heart in going to work and
5:02improving those areas. you know, we
5:03talked about that after the Olympia and
5:05also Tyler Manion obviously told us, you
5:09know, what he wanted to see different
5:10from him and at that age
5:14really taking that to heart and putting
5:16in the work to improve that in such a
5:19short time. U again, that's that's a
5:22testament of how developed mentally he
5:25is at this age and not only physically.
5:28So that's I'm I'm still, you know, in
5:31awe of when I when I saw him I've I've
5:34got checkups, but you know, when you get
5:36checkups uh check-ins through through
5:38the phone, I mean, I've been doing this
5:40for a long time, so I I kind of get an
5:43an idea of what's going on. But when I
5:45saw him in person and I was just I was
5:49blown away because again, I was trying
5:52to find something that I did not like at
5:54the physique. And you know, I may sound
5:58biased and probably I am, but I always
6:01I'm always very objective. There's just
6:03nothing wrong with the physique. You
6:06know, his back was criticized. He
6:08brought that up. The width, the density,
6:10just the amount of muscle that he
6:12carries on a 212 lb frame I've never
6:16seen before. I've never seen before. And
6:18I've coached some of the best 212
6:20athletes in history. I've worked with Ha
6:22when Hay Yamagishi when he got third
6:24place at Olympia and we won the Arno
6:26Classic. I've had the honor to work with
6:28Eduardo Korea. We got fourth at Olympia.
6:31Obviously, I worked with with Keon which
6:34to me is still um the best physique who
6:37I've ever walked on a two 200 pound 12
6:39stage. And so I've seen all those guys
6:43in person. Um, and now when I see
6:46Nihhat, I'm still blown away because of
6:49how complete he is. You know, he poses
6:52and then you're trying to find
6:54something. And I'm not talking
6:56obviously, you know, condition, muscle
6:57maturity, all of that. I get that and
7:00we're well aware of that and we're
7:02working on that. But just in every pose,
7:06there's nothing wrong. Every pose you
7:08do, every transition you do, that
7:10physique is just complete from head to
7:12toe. And that's, you know, what makes a
7:15champion. It's not be being the hardest,
7:18being the biggest, or being uh the
7:21fullest. It's it's about not having any
7:24anything that falls out from your
7:26physique. And he's just so complete
7:29everything.
7:30>> Nad hit the scales at checking at 211.
7:34What's your weigh
7:36>> day? On show day, he was 220 pounds.
7:40>> Okay.
7:41And I remember um David interviewed
7:44after the show and you mentioned that
7:47tactically
7:49this show you held back reserves because
7:52you did not want to go all out. You
7:54still got 12 weeks until Olympia.
7:57>> Yes.
7:57>> Just just break that down for me because
8:00if he was at 211 I mean what how much
8:04sharper could he be in the next two 12
8:07weeks? What improvements are you looking
8:08to see? So you do empty the gas when it
8:12comes to Las Vegas in 12 weeks time.
8:14>> Yeah. Well, you know, there's different
8:16ways by which you can make weight. You
8:20can diet into that weight or you can
8:23like we did for Portugal really empty um
8:27water-wise to make weight. So really
8:29dehydrate. Now what we did last year for
8:32Dubai which was about 12 to 13 weeks out
8:36at the same time we really dieted into
8:38that weight. That means we were at about
8:4197 98 maximum kgs before the weigh-in
8:46and all we had to do is eat a little
8:48less, drink a little less water and the
8:50weight came by itself. So that was
8:52absolutely no issue and the weigh-ins
8:54were in the evening. So that's the only
8:56difficulties but we had that weight. It
8:58was there we were like two pounds away.
9:01Now this time we have been sitting at
9:03around 100 kgs which is 220 pounds for
9:07the past five weeks basically. You know
9:10we reached that that level of condition
9:12of body composition and I just held him
9:15there. I just made sure we didn't make
9:17things any harder because I knew that
9:19body composition was good enough to to
9:21have a good showing but I knew we would
9:24still eat plenty of food. He could still
9:26train hard. So he really never never
9:28suffered, you know, to get to that body
9:30composition. So we held him there and
9:33all we did we we basically dehydrated
9:36uh into the weigh-in which this time and
9:38that's why we especially we chose
9:40Portugal the show was the weigh-ins were
9:42early in the morning you know when you
9:45can get up and then basically go to the
9:47weigh-in and weigh yourself there's no
9:49issue but no drinking eating. So we woke
9:52up at exactly 21200
9:55and the day before we were about 220 at
9:59219 220 but we dehydrated into that.
10:03That means for the Olympia obviously
10:04we're not going to do that. Now we still
10:06have 12 weeks where we can keep dieting
10:09into that weight. That means he's going
10:11to still lose about I would say three to
10:14four pounds of just body fat and his
10:18body composition will improve. And then
10:20for weigh-ins, it's it's much easier. We
10:22obviously don't have it. It it's pretty
10:24dramatic what we have to do in terms of
10:26you know making that weight. But it
10:29doesn't cost us any substance and
10:32doesn't cost us any energy. It's just a
10:34little dehydration during the night and
10:37then next day immediately after weigh in
10:39you rehydrate and he was perfectly fine.
10:41But it's just a different approach and
10:43last year I dieted into the Dubai Pro.
10:45This year we chose this approach in
10:48order for us to be able to just have,
10:50you know, the much better energy and
10:52training these weeks and now we're
10:55sitting again about 222 pounds. We're
10:58going to keep it there for a few weeks
11:00and then we're going to bring it
11:01steadily down in one week before before
11:04the Olympia. I'd like to have him in
11:05about 215 216 maybe and that's easy to
11:08make it into the 212.
11:11that physique at 220 and that physique
11:13at 215 is going to look way different,
11:16much more conditioned. So that's that's
11:19the plan. We learned our lesson last
11:20year trying to force it into the the the
11:25Dubai Pro by dieting into it. This year
11:28we kept it cool. We forced it just the
11:30last 24 hours and now we have a a round
11:34fresh physique. 12 weeks out condition
11:36is absolutely perfect. Patrick, you
11:39mentioned a moment ago like you've
11:41worked with some of the best ever 212
11:46athletes, not just 212, but also across
11:48the board.
11:49>> But Nihhat, when we talk about overall
11:53and the potential of a young kid, where
11:56does he rank of all the people that you
12:00worked with? I mean, I we exchanged
12:02messages over the weekend, and I won't
12:04use the words you you you've said in
12:06case they were said privately, but where
12:08does he rank with those guys that you've
12:12you've worked with in the past?
12:15Well, as as in in terms of just how
12:18complete his physique is, how you know
12:21balanced his physique is, I would say
12:24the only person I've had the the honor
12:26to work with that is in that same range
12:29is Keon. just just because of his
12:32structure, because of his bubbliness,
12:35because of his balance, you know, Keon's
12:38balance is is absurd, you know,
12:40especially, you know, his front double
12:42bicep pose is is probably worth more
12:45than five poses of any other athlete,
12:47but just the the balance structure. I
12:51would say Keon is probably the only
12:52athlete who uh who is, you know, up
12:55there or Keon is up there with with um
12:58um Niat is up there with Keon most
13:01definitely. But the the thing is with
13:04with Niad, what amazes me is you see him
13:08and I know you probably have friends
13:10there and you could talk to and they
13:12could just testify to it. When you see
13:14him in person, he looks 15 pounds
13:18heavier than what he is. He stand. We
13:21did some shots, some poses with open
13:24bodybuilders and he didn't look any
13:27smaller just because the way he's put
13:29together, just because of his
13:30bubbliness, you know, and and that in
13:33the 212 because he is the widest 212,
13:36you know, the top guys. He has more
13:38width to him. He has the balance to him
13:40and now he has the muscle to him because
13:42when you see him in person only there
13:44you appreciate how big he really is you
13:47know and so he is balanced. He is he has
13:50the size. The only thing we need to
13:52improve now obviously is just that
13:54detail and condition but with another 10
13:57weeks to go and now we also can
14:00sacrifice a little bit you know in order
14:03to to make that weight. the other years,
14:05even last year, he was still a little, I
14:08would say, two-dimensional, especially
14:09on the side shots. You you see he could
14:12still hold a little more roundness and
14:15he still does even at this moment. But
14:17if we go further, I think he's going to
14:20just become too heavy and we kept it
14:22really low with the weight.
14:24>> Patrick, I've got to talk about Olympia
14:26now because with any division, there's
14:29always excitement, especially when
14:31there's a story line. For example, men's
14:34physique, it's Chiron going up against
14:37Ryan Terry because I probably saw at
14:39Pittsburgh. Then it's Andrew Jacked
14:42going up against Derek and and Samson
14:45and so on and so on for all the other
14:46divisions. for 212.
14:50This very much feels like, you know,
14:53there's a lot of excitement and people
14:55do believe that Nihat is the future of
14:59212 because of his age and because of
15:02the rate of improvement we've already
15:05seen for one Olympia to now.
15:08I guess my question for yourself because
15:10you've worked with Keon as well. Where
15:13do you see maybe Nihhat could could beat
15:18Keon in some areas or if that's not the
15:21case now is actually going to be in the
15:24future.
15:26>> I don't know if if I can say he can beat
15:29Keon in some areas. What I can say
15:32though and I feel confident in doing
15:33that is he can match Keon in most areas.
15:38Um, I think he beats him in in just
15:42width. He's just a little taller, a
15:44little wider, so he takes up more space
15:47than Keon on stage. Um, so I think Nihad
15:52is going to be just the best matchup for
15:57Keon on stage. Lucas Garcia, impressive
16:01bodybuilder, great conditioning.
16:04He is a little more compact. He doesn't
16:07have that same flow as Keon and Neon
16:10does. Sean Clarita,
16:13I mean, what do I need to say about
16:14Sean? Crazy crazy density,
16:18>> but again, he's a little shorter. Um,
16:22obviously, he doesn't have the same
16:24structure. He has some muscle parts like
16:27in some some areas like his his chest,
16:30for example, or his side shots. They
16:32don't they're not so bubbly. They're not
16:35so round. They don't take up so much
16:36space as Keon and Niha do for example.
16:40So where obviously he he is he has an
16:43advantage is in his condition, his
16:45hardness, his maturity which Sean has
16:48crazy crazy condition and maturity and
16:51also and also Lucas. But I feel what we
16:54saw from Lucas for example last year
16:56which was a crazy good package. I don't
17:00see him being able to improve on that
17:02because the condition can be any better.
17:05The fullness can be any better and the
17:07structure is what it is. So, and I'm
17:11talking as a bodybuilding fan now more
17:12than, you know, Neat's coach. I think
17:14that's what we're going to see and
17:15that's going to be extremely competitive
17:18from Shawn. I also expect that package.
17:21I I expect that same look from last year
17:23if he can match that. That was perfect
17:26for him. Probably one of his best. And
17:28as far as as Keon goes, Keon was a
17:33little bit on a heavy side last year.
17:35You know, I I thought we needed to
17:37really not give away anything because
17:40then we had the show in Prague for, you
17:42know, going into open. So, I probably
17:44made the mistake to keeping you a little
17:46too heavy because I didn't want to
17:48sacrifice anything with mind the open
17:51show. But again, that being said, what
17:53he can do is probably come in a little
17:55harder,
17:57which is just going to make him also
18:00slightly smaller and take up a little
18:02more uh less space on stage. And yet
18:06this al out of those three I have the
18:08impression that is going to be probably
18:12the only one bringing something that we
18:14haven't seen before because what we saw
18:16in Portugal just in terms of size of
18:19bubbliness of completeness we haven't
18:21seen on him. He's just much more
18:23complete and with that look and better
18:27condition on the Olympia um my feeling
18:31is he's going to be the only one who
18:33adds that 5 10% to what was missing last
18:36year and then we see where the cards
18:39fall. So my dream as a coach now
18:43speaking, I would like to see that last
18:45call out and having the honor to stand
18:47next to Keon, just Keon and Nihhat
18:50because those two are aesthetic
18:53completeness and then Lucas and and Sean
18:56Clarita are more, you know, the more
18:59compact, the shorter guys. They have a
19:02different look to them. Okay. So, as a
19:04bodybuilding fan, I would like to see
19:07Nihad and and um Keon compared in the
19:10last call out and then see where the
19:13chips fall.
19:14>> Patrick, how many years did you work
19:16with Keon?
19:18>> Uh four years.
19:19>> Four years. So, isn't that also a huge
19:22strength that NIAT has the fact that
19:26you've obviously worked with K for four
19:28years. you saw and you worked in
19:30partnership a very successful
19:32partnership that brought three 212
19:34Olympia titles. So with that in mind, is
19:38that also a huge strength? the fact that
19:41you are working with someone that some
19:43people say and believe is the next in
19:46line to become the 212 Olympic champion
19:49with your knowledge and and
19:51understanding of how Keon's physique
19:53works and maybe his structural strengths
19:57and maybe any imbalances that you see
19:59that can only benefit Nihhat when you
20:02prepare him for that potential final
20:05call out which in a dream world like
20:07said is Knee Hat and Keon on center
20:10stage, spit center.
20:12>> Yeah. Um I don't think it does. I don't
20:15really think it does make give you an
20:19advantage because I will tell you why.
20:22Because a mistake that you cannot make
20:25as a coach is trying to emulate or
20:28trying to
20:30make decision based on somebody else
20:32strength or weaknesses. You have to
20:35focus on what you have in front of you
20:38and really exploit what NIAT is all
20:40about. In this case, I'm not trying to
20:43set up a game plan because I have the
20:45impression or because I think somebody
20:48else has certain things, certain
20:49weaknesses or certain strengths. I'm
20:52really only focusing on what we have to
20:54do for Nia to look his best. You know,
20:57we cannot control what other people do.
20:59and and if you try to change the way you
21:04perceive
21:05what you have to do in prep in function
21:07of somebody else that's dangerous. So
21:10even though I I know or I think I know
21:13what Keon can and cannot do that is not
21:16going to influence you know what we are
21:18going to do because I have a completely
21:21different physique on hand that responds
21:23completely different to to training to
21:26nutrition and to everything. So, I need
21:28to keep my mind there and just really
21:31focus on bringing him to have his best
21:34look and not try to, you know, strate
21:37strategize and and and think what the
21:40other guy is going to do. But but you
21:42really believe that it could come down
21:44to Nihhat and Keon when it comes to that
21:48final two because like you already
21:50mentioned you feel that you know what
21:52Shan Braw was at his peak maybe Luke is
21:56has already maxed out but with Nihad
21:58being five or 10% better do you believe
22:01it's going to come down to these two?
22:04>> Yes. Yes. I I truly believe that and and
22:06I say that being very objective because
22:09I remember with with Keon our first
22:11Olympia, he got sixth place.
22:14>> Okay. Then he really improved for 2023
22:18when he won his first Olympia. And I
22:20have very well in mind what Keon looked
22:22like for his first Olympia win with with
22:25Clarita where it was really really
22:27close.
22:28And I see what Niha is now at for this
22:32Olympia. And the level of muscularity,
22:36the level of completeness
22:38uh of just muscle density that Miat has
22:41at this moment is definitely ahead of
22:45what Keon was when he won his first
22:47Olympia. Keon at that Olympia was 199b,
22:52you know, 200 lb. Um, and obviously then
22:56he really really improved for for the
22:58next year. It was still, you know, in
23:00that 200 pound
23:03range, but I remember that physique very
23:05well. Incredible physique. But when I
23:08see Nihad now, he just looks like a open
23:12bodybuilder compared to that 2023,
23:15you know, Keon first Olympia.
23:18Clarito has always been there. Clarita's
23:20always, you know, we know what he is.
23:22And if if a Keon can win and challenge a
23:27super muscular Clarita in 2023 and win
23:30the title, which he deservedly did, and
23:33I see Niha now,
23:35I think he can, you know, he can have
23:38that same call out that Sean Clarita and
23:41Keon did back in 2023. Remember there
23:43was that last twoman call out?
23:46>> And I see the same thing happening this
23:49year. I just because those two are just
23:52a step ahead of everybody else in terms
23:54of just flow, structure, and the beauty
23:57that they bring to bodybuilding.
23:59Obviously, that's, you know, going to be
24:01up to the judges. They want to have a
24:02four or three. I just hope we get that
24:06look next to to Kon.
24:09>> Look, I I know BBO fans, especially on
24:11social media, are excited about this
24:13matchup. Uh and of course not taking
24:15away anything from Sha and the rest of
24:16the field but there is consensus whereas
24:20we are looking at potentially getting
24:22that shot of seeing Nihhat and Kon next
24:24to each other but also with social media
24:26I'm sure I know you see you see see
24:28these comments a lot of people believe
24:30as well and they say it on socials that
24:34they don't see they see Nihat winning
24:37the 212 Olympia one day but it will be a
24:41day when Keon is no longer
24:44competing with a 212.
24:46Is is that something you agree with or
24:48do you believe that if it's not this
24:50year or maybe next year that Nihad can
24:54become a Mr. Olympia 212 champion and
24:56that's by beating the reign champion
24:59rather than waiting for him to move on?
25:03>> Well, you know, let me start by
25:05obviously saying that I am very very
25:08well aware of how great Keon is in that
25:12class. you know, don't don't get me
25:14wrong. I'm not I'm not stupid. Um, and
25:18I've been a part of that for four years,
25:19so I know very well how great as a as a
25:23you know, shorter bodybuilder he is.
25:26And that deserves all the respect. And
25:28I'm not going to try to disrespect that
25:30because again, I'm objective. But I also
25:35at the same time and at the same level
25:37see a nihad that
25:41when everything falls into place, when
25:45the condition when
25:48this presentation when everything is
25:51where it needs to be, I truly believe he
25:54has the strength to challenge Keon at
25:58his best simply because how good he is.
26:00And that's nothing to take away from
26:03Keon. That's simply acknowledging how
26:06great that kid is. So, is it going to
26:10happen? I don't know. Obviously, I do
26:12hope so. But I truly believe as somebody
26:15who's been in bodybuilding for 35 years,
26:18and coaching athletes for over 30 years,
26:21that that kid has it in his hands to
26:26beat anybody on that stage. when it's
26:29going to happen. I don't have a crystal
26:31ball, but I know he has he has the goods
26:34to actually do it. Yes,
26:37>> there's a I have the the podcast with
26:40with Fouad and we talk about Nihad quite
26:42a lot. There is also a thought process
26:45that with how young Nihhat is and how
26:49much he's improving, eventually we're
26:52going to have to see Nihhat in the open
26:55and that's in the future. I'm not but I
26:58guess in your you don't have a crystal
27:01ball but you probably could see the
27:03pathway for Nihhat
27:07how long do you see him being in the 212
27:10before eventually you you guys are
27:13fighting just to stay under that limit
27:16and the reason I'm saying that is the
27:19improvements from Nihad from the last
27:21Olympia to now is absolutely massive and
27:25if we see that every here going forward
27:28with how he's strugg
27:32mentioned about the hard work, the work
27:34ethic he has. Surely it's not that long
27:37until we might have to see him in the
27:39open.
27:41>> Um, you know, the same thing was said
27:43about Keon. you know when somebody is
27:47winning 212 obviously you have to be
27:50such a dominant champion that you have
27:53to give the impression also to be able
27:55to compete in the open class. So I get
27:57that the same thing was always said for
27:59Chris Bumstead you know you should go
28:01into the open and compete in the open.
28:04Now what people have to realize is we
28:07are really going at this I would you
28:10know permit me to say the word smart
28:13way. Um
28:16Nihad needs to mature. Keon is Nihhat is
28:20adding muscle size muscle density every
28:23year basically every month. It seems
28:25like even one contest prep. So it would
28:30be foolish to start thinking about going
28:32into the open when he's still growing
28:35even with the limitations that we're
28:36giving ourselves. You know, we're not
28:38pushing for weight in the offseason.
28:40We're not pushing for gains that don't
28:43come naturally or easier for him. And
28:47once he acquires a certain muscle
28:49maturity, certain hardness and we see
28:52there's no further
28:54it's it's almost impossible for us to go
28:56any further in terms of of really
28:59detailing condition and we are at the
29:01limit of those 211. Maybe we have to do
29:05suffer too much to get into or maybe
29:07sacrifice something then I would
29:09probably consider
29:11going into the open if that day ever
29:14comes. But at the moment, we're really
29:17not pushing things hard to make that
29:19weight. Uh even now, yes, you know,
29:23those last 24 hours were a little bit,
29:25you know, hard, but we can diet next 10
29:2912 weeks and we will be around 215
29:31pounds and it's not very difficult to to
29:35be in the 212. So, and we still have to
29:38improve the condition. He still has to
29:39improve the muscle maturity. So, as long
29:41as I see improvements overall in his
29:43physique and we still have to acquire
29:45more maturity, I'm not going to be
29:47stupid and try to put on even more size
29:50on him, which is going to take even more
29:52time to, you know, to dial in and and to
29:54make mature because even in the open,
29:57you need the same level of condition
29:58there, too. So, let's do things, you
30:01know, step by steps. Let's be really
30:04maxed out and with the hardest condition
30:08possible in the 212. And then if one day
30:10it happens that we really are going to
30:13sacrifice and it makes our work very
30:16very hard to to do that class then why
30:20not have that discussion but right now
30:21there's still so much improvements he
30:23can have within the 212 class that I
30:27don't even want to go there with my mind
30:29or with his mind let's focus on the task
30:31ahead the 212 there's still a lot of
30:34things we can do better and we can
30:36improve there's still an amazing
30:38probably the best 212 Olympia champion
30:41of all time in that class we want to be
30:44compared to. So, let's, you know, let's
30:47not take the steps too far away from us
30:49and and stay in the moment and focus on
30:51this.
30:52>> Well, let's stay in the moment. Let's
30:53bring it back before we just wrap it up.
30:55Olympia 12 weeks time. You know what you
31:00and Neiat have planned to bring
31:02something very special that could
31:05challenge Keon, manage to get into that
31:07final call out where, like I said, dream
31:09scenario, Keon and Nihhat are standing
31:13side by side.
31:15Boy fans are obviously excited for this.
31:18Give me your prediction of what you
31:21believe Ni hat is going to bring to the
31:25Olympia stage that is just going to wow
31:28Bollywood fans and just make up sit up
31:31straight lean forward jaws drop. You
31:35know that you you've had those moments
31:37before with the guys you've worked with
31:38in the past. Give me a prediction of
31:41what Nihhat's going to do to make us do
31:43the same thing that we've done so many
31:45times with your clients.
31:48We're going to basically what you're
31:51going to see is that bubbly, more
31:54muscular look that we just had in
31:56Portugal
31:57with that level of fullness cuz that's
31:59something that's very easy to achieve
32:01with him, but with a way better
32:05condition. There's going to be much more
32:07detail through the glutes and hams uh
32:10from the front. His pecs are going to be
32:12strided.
32:15Now, they were strided from the middle
32:16down. They're going to be strided from
32:18the top up. You're going to see that
32:19strided tricep on that side tricep pose.
32:22You're going to see the midsection even
32:23tighter. Even in the front shots, you're
32:25going to see that separation more. So,
32:27just imagine that look sharpened. Just,
32:31you know, when you use a filter on
32:32Instagram, that's what you're going to
32:33see. That little more sharpness to that
32:36physique with the same bubbliness. And
32:38we're going to basically be be around
32:40almost the same weight. Maybe I would
32:43because we were 220 on stage because
32:45afterward I really brought him back to,
32:48you know, I wanted him to look like an
32:49open guy in Portugal next to the other
32:52212 and I and I think we were pretty
32:54close to doing that. And um we're just
32:57going to look that just deeper, harder
32:59separation with that added size that he
33:02has been able to do. So, it's going to
33:05be something
33:06I think it's it's like I say it's like a
33:10mix between Keon and Flex Lewis. He has
33:12attributes of both, you know. So, he's
33:15going to be muscular and he's that frame
33:18is just going to be wider than anybody
33:20and it's you take that Portugal look,
33:22you sharpen it up, and that's what
33:24you're going to see on that Olympian
33:25stage.
33:26>> And what we hope to see is that final
33:29call out between him and Keon. So we go
33:32just sit back and just enjoy that
33:33moment.
33:34>> I I've been speaking it into existence
33:37and I text him every day. He's like
33:39final call out. Two men call out. That's
33:42I want to speak it into existence
33:43because I'd love to see those are
33:45probably my two favorite physiques in
33:47bodybuilding at the moment. Him and
33:49Keon. So I would love to see him next to
33:52each other because I feel like for the
33:53bodybuilding fans, that's the beauty.
33:56Those are beautiful physique. Those are,
33:58you know, nobody can say they don't like
34:00them.
34:02Maybe there are, you know, other
34:04bodybuilders that have certain
34:06attributes to them, but when you look at
34:07the whole package, I think Keon
34:10especially has proven that. And nowad
34:12they exemplify what bodybuilding is all
34:14about. And I hope to see it.
34:17>> I hope to see it. Everybody hopes to see
34:19it because if you do get the chance to
34:21see that on on Friday and Friday night
34:23then that's taking nothing away from a
34:26legend that is Sean Clarita. But I guess
34:28there is this thought process that
34:30Nihhat is the next in line to challenge
34:34the gray Keon. And if we do get an
34:36opportunity to see that, that'll be
34:38absolutely box office. And the roof will
34:41probably be a liftoff if we just have
34:43that moment where Steve or Tyler just
34:45call out Keon and and Birmingham Center
34:50>> and then yes, cameras flashing
34:52everything. It' be be magical.
34:54>> I'd love to I'd love to hear you say
34:56that. and I really again speak it into
34:58existence.
34:59>> Well, look Patrick, once again, many
35:01congratulations on the weekend. The job
35:04well done. It's definitely got all the
35:07fans excited and now we can we can just
35:11sit back and well, we can sit back. You
35:13you're back to work, but we can sit back
35:14and watch you guys get to work. Leads of
35:17Olympia. Obviously, I'll be there front
35:19centered to see the whole thing, but
35:22this this could be this could be a 212
35:25to remember this year. Could be
35:26something very special.
35:27>> And and allow me the last, you know, the
35:30last thing
35:30>> because in the past years, you know,
35:32we've heard a little bit of knock on the
35:34212 class that, you know, some people
35:37even saying that we didn't need the 212
35:40and uh I mean, all what I've seen now
35:43from, you know, a lot of 212 guys is
35:46very good bodybuilding. is exciting
35:48bodybuilding. I mean with somebody like
35:50Keon in that class who represents
35:53bodybuilding at its finest, you know,
35:55physiques like Nihad now, obviously
35:58always great like Sean Kita can even win
36:01open pro shows. There is so many good
36:04guys in that class and they bring
36:06excitement and I feel there's definitely
36:09room for the 212. It's definitely
36:11excited and it carries a lot of really
36:14great physique. So, I hope you know
36:16people out there who were criticizing
36:17the 212 class will have will be worth
36:21the price of admission to see those guys
36:23battle it out.
36:24>> Amazing. Patrick, thanks for your time.
36:27>> Thank you for having me. Have a great
36:28day.

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