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Can $10,000 Semi Truck Make you money?Owner operator Chris Weber shares his story. Episode 78 — Transcript

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  1. 0:00biggest hurdle that i probably went
  2. 0:01through
  3. 0:02was
  4. 0:05welcome to truckee podcast my name's
  5. 0:07sebastian this podcast is all about
  6. 0:09trucking we love diesel engines semi
  7. 0:11trucks being on the road and freedom so
  8. 0:14let's go
  9. 0:15[Music]
  10. 0:21the market is a mess chris what happened
  11. 0:24yeah the market is a mess right now but
  12. 0:26it just
  13. 0:28there are some things that are paying
  14. 0:29ridiculous amounts of money and then
  15. 0:31there are some things that just aren't
  16. 0:32paying anything at all and
  17. 0:34being able to make that adjustment
  18. 0:37um
  19. 0:38especially with today's fuel prices is
  20. 0:40it's going to make or break people
  21. 0:43i'm already seeing that to be honest
  22. 0:45with you i've heard of some companies
  23. 0:47around chicago that are
  24. 0:49you know
  25. 0:51they're trying to keep it the
  26. 0:54under the radar but
  27. 0:56again and i own i own a fleet so i can i
  28. 0:59feel it as well we you know we've
  29. 1:01stopped my
  30. 1:02spot market operation was about 10 so it
  31. 1:05wasn't that bad
  32. 1:07but
  33. 1:08it's it's it's yeah tell me tell me more
  34. 1:10so tell me uh tell me brief intro like
  35. 1:14what do i do the spot market every now
  36. 1:16and then
  37. 1:18i do spot market every now and then but
  38. 1:20most i currently run a dedicated that
  39. 1:22i've got set up with uh
  40. 1:24with an agent i've been working with now
  41. 1:26for about a year
  42. 1:27uh he actually runs a lot of freight out
  43. 1:29of general motors
  44. 1:31used to do it with ford and then ford
  45. 1:33kind of wasn't working out so i switched
  46. 1:35over to gm
  47. 1:37um
  48. 1:38but then whenever they're plants shut
  49. 1:39down i'll switch over to
  50. 1:41the spot market kind of play around
  51. 1:44there for a bit kind of see where
  52. 1:45everything's at
  53. 1:46um
  54. 1:48before my dedicated turns back on again
  55. 1:50but
  56. 1:51um
  57. 1:53like if you're able to get an automotive
  58. 1:55freight like that from what i've seen so
  59. 1:57far that's where a lot of the money is
  60. 1:58right now and
  61. 2:00especially with general motors
  62. 2:02specifically they're the only ones that
  63. 2:04are paying a high enough fuel surcharge
  64. 2:06to actually cover these high costs of
  65. 2:08fuel
  66. 2:09um i ran grocery loads i want to say two
  67. 2:11weeks ago
  68. 2:13and i was only getting like 32 cents
  69. 2:16a mile for fuel surcharge
  70. 2:18wow now i'm back doing general motors
  71. 2:21i'm getting 71 cents per mile feels per
  72. 2:24charge
  73. 2:25so i mean it where are you based out of
  74. 2:28where where are you at right now what
  75. 2:29stage
  76. 2:34so
  77. 2:35i'm currently based in uh toledo ohio
  78. 2:38and then i actually run
  79. 2:43to uh and then i run kentucky back up
  80. 2:46into
  81. 2:47like akron
  82. 2:48and ohio and then ohio back to lansing
  83. 2:52and i just kind of make that loop um
  84. 2:55with the dedicated and then whenever i
  85. 2:56get on the spot market i usually shoot
  86. 2:58for anything that's going for
  87. 3:02i'll try to find some sort of hazmat
  88. 3:03going into chicago because it's usually
  89. 3:05staying decent and then i can pretty
  90. 3:08much pick wherever i want to go at that
  91. 3:10point and find something that's over
  92. 3:11four dollars a mile going just about
  93. 3:13anywhere
  94. 3:14most of the time i try going to florida
  95. 3:17i can get some pretty good loads out of
  96. 3:19there
  97. 3:20um i usually shoot for like the
  98. 3:22panhandle area because as i start
  99. 3:24working my way back up north going into
  100. 3:26like alabama mississippi
  101. 3:28uh i tend to find even better freight
  102. 3:30that then gets me back into ohio to get
  103. 3:32me back home
  104. 3:34and so i ended up doing fairly well in
  105. 3:36that regard
  106. 3:38yeah that's actually been no further
  107. 3:40west than kansas
  108. 3:42okay that's pretty good and how long do
  109. 3:45you usually stay out
  110. 3:48i'm usually about four or five days and
  111. 3:50then i'm home for the weekend
  112. 3:52uh that's pretty much what i told my
  113. 3:54wife i would do when i started doing
  114. 3:56this because i was a company driver to
  115. 3:58begin with
  116. 3:59i was home every night but i was working
  117. 4:01a 14 15 hour day
  118. 4:03you know
  119. 4:04sleep at home for six seven hours and
  120. 4:07getting right back up and do it all over
  121. 4:08again
  122. 4:09so
  123. 4:10like while i was home i was kind of not
  124. 4:13home if that makes any sense yeah i
  125. 4:16started doing this job and then most of
  126. 4:18the time it's i'm out four days and then
  127. 4:20i'm done
  128. 4:22the dedicated i run puts me home
  129. 4:24actually every other day so i'll
  130. 4:26actually work six days doing this but
  131. 4:27when i'm at home i'm at home for
  132. 4:30four or five six hours
  133. 4:32the day that i get home and then i don't
  134. 4:34have to leave until everybody else is
  135. 4:35gone in the morning
  136. 4:36so that makes it really nice for that's
  137. 4:38nice for me to do the run that i'm on so
  138. 4:40tell me tell me more a little bit how
  139. 4:42did you get get into
  140. 4:44being an owner up can you share your how
  141. 4:46long you drove as a company driver and
  142. 4:48then when you pulled the trigger on
  143. 4:49actually buying a truck and and becoming
  144. 4:51an owner up
  145. 4:54so i started i actually got my cdl in in
  146. 4:582015.
  147. 5:00after my dad had passed away he gave me
  148. 5:02a little bit of money
  149. 5:04uh with inheritance and i went ahead and
  150. 5:06i took that inheritance to get my cdl
  151. 5:09and start a driving truck
  152. 5:11um
  153. 5:12did flatbed to start with
  154. 5:14then went local about a year after that
  155. 5:17i just i got tired of the otr thing
  156. 5:19um was local for the longest time you
  157. 5:22know
  158. 5:23from 2016 up until
  159. 5:27like right at 2020
  160. 5:29um i had a buddy of mine he had bought
  161. 5:32currently driving now
  162. 5:35a running owner operator doing a local
  163. 5:38thing
  164. 5:38and then he got into financial issues
  165. 5:41[Music]
  166. 5:42he was he really wasn't running his
  167. 5:44business
  168. 5:45properly and you know when usually when
  169. 5:48you see a lot of influx and money the
  170. 5:50first thing you want to do is you want
  171. 5:51to go spend it you really don't want to
  172. 5:52go you know
  173. 5:53a lot of people fall into that trap of
  174. 5:56well i have all this on hand cash when
  175. 5:58in reality it's not really on hand cash
  176. 6:00anymore it still belongs to the truck
  177. 6:02still belongs to the business
  178. 6:04and because of that
  179. 6:06with his first major breakdown it cost
  180. 6:08him 20 000
  181. 6:09which he was able to fund out but then
  182. 6:11like three months later had another 35
  183. 6:13000 repair pop up
  184. 6:16and this all happened in the span of
  185. 6:17like seven months and it buried him so
  186. 6:23having to go he went company for a
  187. 6:25little bit
  188. 6:26but then he couldn't make the payments
  189. 6:28to the shop to that fixes rig then he
  190. 6:31couldn't make the payments on the truck
  191. 6:32itself so he was deferring his payments
  192. 6:35to try to make up for it so that you
  193. 6:38know he'd try to get some money in the
  194. 6:39bank but he currently uh
  195. 6:42currently today
  196. 6:44he actually team drives with his dad
  197. 6:46and so his truck just sat there for a
  198. 6:49year and a half
  199. 6:51and uh he and i got to talking one day
  200. 6:53and he was talking about how the truck
  201. 6:55just sitting there kind of was bothering
  202. 6:57him and
  203. 6:58how he got he didn't want to
  204. 7:00own a rig or you know they were just
  205. 7:02sitting there that was costing the money
  206. 7:04each month so i told him like well
  207. 7:07why don't i just buy the truck off you
  208. 7:09we talked about it for about a month
  209. 7:11went back and forth on some details and
  210. 7:13then i i told him i'm like well i'm not
  211. 7:14going to pay for what you had done to
  212. 7:17the truck and
  213. 7:18maintenance and all that but when it
  214. 7:20comes to the bank note i'll pay that off
  215. 7:22transfer title to me we'll call it a day
  216. 7:25um and that's what i did i ended up
  217. 7:27buying the truck for a little over ten
  218. 7:29thousand dollars nice um i had to i had
  219. 7:32to put another seven thousand dollars
  220. 7:34into it to get it road legal uh needed
  221. 7:36tires it needed breaks i had to do
  222. 7:40i think two
  223. 7:43uh two pancakes had to get replaced for
  224. 7:45the brake chambers
  225. 7:47um
  226. 7:48you know and that that at least got a
  227. 7:50road worthy for me to start working
  228. 7:52um
  229. 7:54i did that in october of
  230. 7:58october of 2020
  231. 8:01and then i actually started with
  232. 8:02landstar
  233. 8:04in
  234. 8:05november
  235. 8:06of uh of the same year
  236. 8:09we got landstar did their inspection on
  237. 8:11the truck something that they require to
  238. 8:13make sure the truck is safe and legal to
  239. 8:14drive down the highway
  240. 8:16and then the way i went i started
  241. 8:18driving the rig
  242. 8:21tell me what the rig is what is the
  243. 8:22truck
  244. 8:23so i currently have a 2013
  245. 8:26780
  246. 8:28uh volvo 780 with a d13
  247. 8:31uh this particular d13 is actually the
  248. 8:34one of the
  249. 8:36i believe the mechanic said it's the
  250. 8:38second generation v13
  251. 8:40that they made this is where they still
  252. 8:42have the you still use shims to
  253. 8:45adjust the valves rather than changing
  254. 8:48up the uh the adjustment screws was what
  255. 8:51they eventually went to that that
  256. 8:53actually happened three months after
  257. 8:54this engine was made
  258. 8:56um
  259. 8:57three months later the 2014 models have
  260. 9:00the
  261. 9:01the next one up from what i'm currently
  262. 9:03driving
  263. 9:04yes um
  264. 9:06runs pretty good uh she i bought her
  265. 9:08with 830 000 miles on it currently has
  266. 9:11988 000 miles on it and running pretty
  267. 9:14strong right now do you know do you know
  268. 9:16what they did what type of work the
  269. 9:18previous owner did what was it what was
  270. 9:20the high bills that he uh
  271. 9:22got so
  272. 9:24the first the first set of high bills
  273. 9:26that he ran into was the agr cooler
  274. 9:28failed and he also had a leak
  275. 9:32in the uh
  276. 9:33in the
  277. 9:35oil cooler
  278. 9:36and
  279. 9:38maintenance alone on that was already
  280. 9:39five thousand dollars right out the door
  281. 9:41because he you know he always took his
  282. 9:43stuff to a dealership
  283. 9:45um
  284. 9:46we could talk about that a little bit so
  285. 9:47that
  286. 9:49yeah so he
  287. 9:51that was part of it that was his first
  288. 9:53that was his first one
  289. 9:55then
  290. 9:56probably
  291. 9:59two weeks later so he had to put a turbo
  292. 10:01on the truck too
  293. 10:03um so that kind of collectively in that
  294. 10:06section was his first major ordeal that
  295. 10:08he had wrong with the rig
  296. 10:10um
  297. 10:11with his second malfunction ended up
  298. 10:14having to do with
  299. 10:16some of the other accessory components
  300. 10:18he had to put a radiator in the clutch
  301. 10:20fan
  302. 10:21assembly like locked up
  303. 10:24and caused a bunch of issues there
  304. 10:27um is that a manual or ice shift
  305. 10:30no this is a 13-speed manual speed okay
  306. 10:33yeah it's got a eaton puller in it it's
  307. 10:35really nice that's a good combo yeah
  308. 10:38yeah
  309. 10:40um
  310. 10:40336 rears
  311. 10:43so it used to be a fedex truck is what
  312. 10:46this truck used to be and then when he
  313. 10:48bought it from the dealership
  314. 10:50um
  315. 10:52yeah that was in i think he bought this
  316. 10:54in 17 i think when he actually bought
  317. 10:57this rig
  318. 10:59what's your fuel mileage since i have
  319. 11:00you on the ratio what's
  320. 11:02are you tracking your fuel mileage
  321. 11:05so i'm currently
  322. 11:06in the summer time i'm getting right
  323. 11:08around seven seven seven eight somewhere
  324. 11:10in that ballpark
  325. 11:11and then during winter time i get around
  326. 11:13seven one to six nine somewhere in that
  327. 11:16ballpark and what's your average speed
  328. 11:19i currently drive 63.
  329. 11:22yeah
  330. 11:23good
  331. 11:24that's enough i was driving 65 68 for
  332. 11:27the longest time
  333. 11:28and then
  334. 11:29like as prices started to kind of
  335. 11:31increase a little bit i'm like you know
  336. 11:33what we're just going to kick the rig
  337. 11:34down some
  338. 11:35started driving 65 i tried using
  339. 11:38additives trying different things there
  340. 11:40found the additives not really doing
  341. 11:41much of anything but i noticed that
  342. 11:43slowing down the truck more helped
  343. 11:46um
  344. 11:48so i at some point i want to redo the
  345. 11:51screws on the truck
  346. 11:52or the differentials yeah um and get
  347. 11:56them to put them at like 264 because i
  348. 11:58don't haul a lot of weight well like
  349. 12:00even when i'm on the the spa board i
  350. 12:02rarely pull anything over 25 000 pounds
  351. 12:05oh yeah
  352. 12:07yeah so if i can if i can get away with
  353. 12:09putting like 264 rears on here and get
  354. 12:12better fuel economy i'm really hoping
  355. 12:14that'll help with that
  356. 12:16yeah definitely that's that's the way to
  357. 12:18go i have some gliders that
  358. 12:21are have the direct
  359. 12:22transmission and 270 force
  360. 12:25and the fuel mileage is crazy uh it's
  361. 12:28such a big difference and
  362. 12:30that's definitely a good move especially
  363. 12:32yeah like you said you're not hauling
  364. 12:34heavy
  365. 12:36you know what you're not that tall
  366. 12:37anyway so that's
  367. 12:39i don't know what do you think it's
  368. 12:40gonna i'm trying to think if you're at
  369. 12:427.7
  370. 12:44yeah you can go into the eights easy
  371. 12:46with with with doing that
  372. 12:48yeah eight and a half to nine is what i
  373. 12:51would be hoping to shoot for if i were
  374. 12:53to make that kind of move
  375. 12:54um the nice thing about where i drive is
  376. 12:56i don't pull hills like it's ohio's
  377. 12:59fairly flat michigan's fairly flat and
  378. 13:02then a portion of kentucky that i'm in
  379. 13:04is only you know i'm only in kentucky
  380. 13:08for 30 miles so like
  381. 13:10the hills that i do pull are
  382. 13:13not very big they're not even graded
  383. 13:15yeah yeah so that's good
  384. 13:17and then
  385. 13:19and so and then obviously going to
  386. 13:21chicago whenever i'm on the spa board
  387. 13:23and running back down south of florida
  388. 13:26like the most hills i run into is
  389. 13:28tennessee and even then
  390. 13:30there's only like one or two big poles
  391. 13:32that i even take through tennessee at
  392. 13:34all so i mean i just i i really don't
  393. 13:36run the truck through the mountains if i
  394. 13:38if i can avoid it
  395. 13:40yeah and would you say so how how would
  396. 13:42you say
  397. 13:44how much
  398. 13:45how important is how fast did you learn
  399. 13:49that fuel mileage is one of the most
  400. 13:51important things
  401. 13:58probably when fuel when i when i started
  402. 14:01buying fuel at 350 a gallon so when i
  403. 14:04the cool thing about landstar and i
  404. 14:06don't know about any of the other
  405. 14:07companies but the discounts that we get
  406. 14:09on on fuel are really good so usually
  407. 14:12what you see on the board is not what i
  408. 14:13pay i i'm usually a dollar under that
  409. 14:16um so they probably have a deal most of
  410. 14:19the time of a dollar
  411. 14:20you get some kind of a discount off of
  412. 14:22the cash
  413. 14:24uh cash price uh i'm assuming because
  414. 14:26it's a pretty large fee so they they
  415. 14:28worked out do you fuel at specific
  416. 14:31locations like or like pilot and phijs
  417. 14:34or is it anywhere you get the discount
  418. 14:38our
  419. 14:39our biggest discounts come from ta petro
  420. 14:42and loves
  421. 14:43and i do get discounts at the other
  422. 14:46places it's just not as much like we're
  423. 14:48we're talking
  424. 14:50you know anywhere between 30 and 80
  425. 14:52difference
  426. 14:53between
  427. 14:55going to ta petro or loves compared to
  428. 14:58like a pilot flying j or even speedway
  429. 15:01for that matter because like speedway
  430. 15:03tends to have cheaper fuel
  431. 15:05by like 20 30 cents already and then
  432. 15:07landstar gets like an additional 20 25
  433. 15:10cents
  434. 15:11on top of that but it's still always
  435. 15:13cheaper to go to ta petrol lumps
  436. 15:16for us loves is recent loves has only
  437. 15:18been recent for about the last probably
  438. 15:19seven months
  439. 15:22most of the time it was just ta petro
  440. 15:25so you're at landstar how how how do you
  441. 15:28how do you like it
  442. 15:36uh it cut out real bad
  443. 15:38repeat that again would you how would
  444. 15:40you say how do you and how do you like
  445. 15:42being at landstar
  446. 15:46i like it for my first company here over
  447. 15:50on my like my first company that i've
  448. 15:51that i've been with as an owner operator
  449. 15:54there were hurdles i had to get over
  450. 15:56because then just because like i was a
  451. 15:58company driver for
  452. 16:01like six years
  453. 16:03so you have this company driver
  454. 16:05mentality and then you buy your own rig
  455. 16:07and landstar
  456. 16:10will get out of your way nine times out
  457. 16:12of ten for you to go do whatever it is
  458. 16:13that you want to go do
  459. 16:15and it's not something i was ever used
  460. 16:17to it it took me a good three four
  461. 16:19months
  462. 16:20to book my own freight set up my own
  463. 16:23schedules
  464. 16:24um
  465. 16:26and do all that sort of such it was a
  466. 16:27steep learning curve at that point to do
  467. 16:29that
  468. 16:30um
  469. 16:32i think then i was only hauling like one
  470. 16:34or two loads a week and thinking that i
  471. 16:36did good because well that's what i did
  472. 16:39as a company driver and it wasn't until
  473. 16:42it wasn't until i had to redo
  474. 16:45um
  475. 16:46a class and what they do is you you
  476. 16:48start in with the company and then
  477. 16:50[Music]
  478. 16:51about three months later they make you
  479. 16:53go through a course
  480. 16:55to verify that you know what you're
  481. 16:57doing with the load board how to
  482. 16:59properly search for loads how to not
  483. 17:01bombard yourself with a bunch of loads
  484. 17:03because there are they're like if i were
  485. 17:04to look at the load board right now i
  486. 17:06can pull up over 80 000 loads to go and
  487. 17:08to go and book across the country right
  488. 17:10now
  489. 17:11you know how do i turn 80 000 loads into
  490. 17:1325 in my area this way i can pick and
  491. 17:16choose where i'm going to go and and try
  492. 17:18to get the most money out of it
  493. 17:20um once i took that class
  494. 17:23i went from hauling one or two loads a
  495. 17:25week to hauling three to four loads a
  496. 17:27week and almost tripling my money that
  497. 17:29was making before
  498. 17:31in the same time frame of going out
  499. 17:34um that also helped me land this
  500. 17:36dedicated that i'm on too because like
  501. 17:38once i started pushing myself
  502. 17:40and making
  503. 17:42making relationships with these
  504. 17:44different agents that even that post
  505. 17:46these loads on the board
  506. 17:48they notice that hey you know you're a
  507. 17:49good driver
  508. 17:50how about this i've got this other load
  509. 17:52here i'm not haven't even posted on the
  510. 17:54board yet do you want it you know and
  511. 17:56then that relationship just kind of
  512. 17:57turns into what i currently do now
  513. 18:00is i run a dedicated lane that
  514. 18:03you know it gets me home every other day
  515. 18:05and i'm it's it's six loads a week and
  516. 18:07it's solid money
  517. 18:09it really is tell me tell me about the
  518. 18:12training for the atlanta star how is
  519. 18:15there specific training right before you
  520. 18:18start or is it is it they let you go
  521. 18:20they sign you up
  522. 18:22sign you on and then they just kind of
  523. 18:24pull you back in to
  524. 18:26to to check on you but is there like a
  525. 18:29training right before you start
  526. 18:33um so they
  527. 18:35you have a classroom deal that you do
  528. 18:38for the first two days
  529. 18:39um once you get it once you get accepted
  530. 18:42at landstar you'll go through and and a
  531. 18:44lot of it's just going over hazmat stuff
  532. 18:46because they want to make sure that you
  533. 18:48you understand because at landstar you
  534. 18:50have to have your hazmat
  535. 18:52you know that it's that is a requirement
  536. 18:54so the first your the very first day
  537. 18:57you're basically getting the crash
  538. 18:58course of hazmat
  539. 19:00making sure that you understand it fully
  540. 19:02before you sit there and decide to grab
  541. 19:04a hazmat load and take because hazmat
  542. 19:06does pay well depending on what it is of
  543. 19:08what you're hauling
  544. 19:09um like most hazmat loads do pay pretty
  545. 19:11good
  546. 19:13um
  547. 19:14and then into the second day they start
  548. 19:16going over the load board they let you
  549. 19:18research a little bit
  550. 19:19they'll do a few examples they'll have
  551. 19:21you like maybe plot out a route and that
  552. 19:23sort of thing and then they show you the
  553. 19:25tools that they have that can actually
  554. 19:27plan a route for you
  555. 19:29ahead of time and then you just call the
  556. 19:31agents up and book the freight you know
  557. 19:33which sometimes works sometimes it
  558. 19:35doesn't
  559. 19:36but then you also get an advisor that
  560. 19:38you can call at any time
  561. 19:41and it's usually somebody who's been at
  562. 19:42the company for 15 plus years
  563. 19:45uh is who their advisors are so or if
  564. 19:47you have any questions like maybe you've
  565. 19:49got load board questions maybe you don't
  566. 19:51know exactly what to ask the agents when
  567. 19:52you call for a loan
  568. 19:54like for me my my learning curve
  569. 19:56that i learned real quick was grocery i
  570. 19:59had no idea what a lumper fee was until
  571. 20:01i came to landstar
  572. 20:03and it wasn't until i delivered a load
  573. 20:05to kroger i was told well it's 400 to
  574. 20:08unload your trailer my jaw dropped i'm
  575. 20:10like what
  576. 20:12i had no idea but that was a question i
  577. 20:14should have asked right at the start
  578. 20:16and
  579. 20:18that was that was part of that learning
  580. 20:19curve but having that advisor was
  581. 20:21actually quite helpful
  582. 20:23for me to
  583. 20:25bounce ideas off on well this is the
  584. 20:27route that i planned what do you think
  585. 20:29you know and
  586. 20:30and it it's it's a super supportive
  587. 20:32program even for new drivers coming into
  588. 20:35it and even veterans here at landstar
  589. 20:37too sometimes even they
  590. 20:39run into issues or snags or they can't
  591. 20:41quite adapt and so others will help out
  592. 20:45it's a great company to come in and work
  593. 20:47with for that reason and it's
  594. 20:50the best way somebody told me about it
  595. 20:52is that landstar is as close as to your
  596. 20:54own authority as you can get without
  597. 20:56actually having it yeah i've heard that
  598. 20:58i've heard that before did you have
  599. 21:01is there any training associated with
  600. 21:03trucks and and
  601. 21:05just like like knowing trucks or that's
  602. 21:07completely left out and it's just purely
  603. 21:11booking and how lansa works is there
  604. 21:14that is
  605. 21:15it is purely up to you at that point
  606. 21:17there are some things that they will
  607. 21:18guide you on so for example one of the
  608. 21:21things that
  609. 21:22when they when they talk to other bcos
  610. 21:25or
  611. 21:26or other landstar drivers um about when
  612. 21:28they go to buy a rig
  613. 21:30is making sure that you are not
  614. 21:34you're not financially strapping
  615. 21:35yourself so they do not recommend that
  616. 21:39you
  617. 21:40go out and buy a truck and have a 4 000
  618. 21:42payment they recommend that you try to
  619. 21:44get that payment as close to like
  620. 21:45fifteen hundred a month if you possibly
  621. 21:47can and even that they say can be a
  622. 21:49little bit too much um
  623. 21:52especially depending on what you're
  624. 21:53doing i mean they'll help you in those
  625. 21:55regards but they won't point you as the
  626. 21:57you know where to get your truck fixed
  627. 21:59how to get your truck fixed how to do it
  628. 22:01yourself um the only other classes that
  629. 22:04i know of that they do is when it comes
  630. 22:06to like if you want to haul like a step
  631. 22:08deck or a flatbed
  632. 22:10you have to take a secret uh securement
  633. 22:12class
  634. 22:14um
  635. 22:15just to make sure that you know like how
  636. 22:17to secure everything to the deck how to
  637. 22:18make a d.o.t legal you know making sure
  638. 22:21you have the proper equipment that you
  639. 22:22have
  640. 22:23um so on and so forth so i mean that's
  641. 22:26that's about as much of the training
  642. 22:28though that they have for the truck
  643. 22:30itself no they it's
  644. 22:32you know
  645. 22:33they do offer discounts at some places
  646. 22:35they get your truck worked on
  647. 22:37but
  648. 22:38that's hit or miss sometimes it's not
  649. 22:40it's not all the time have you had good
  650. 22:43experience with shops they recommend or
  651. 22:44they work with when they let's say they
  652. 22:47they have a discount with you know shop
  653. 22:49y
  654. 22:50abc
  655. 22:51have you worked at any of those shops
  656. 22:55i've worked with a handful of them um
  657. 22:58one particular in maslin ohio that i
  658. 23:01went to i had a trailer had a hole in
  659. 23:03the top
  660. 23:04uh found out that they also worked on
  661. 23:06rigs there too and so while they were
  662. 23:08also fixing the the hole in my roof
  663. 23:11uh i had them put a wheel seal in on the
  664. 23:13tractor as well
  665. 23:14at the same time and like
  666. 23:17like that's that's about the most of my
  667. 23:18extent that i have with it
  668. 23:21i ended up like the nice thing about
  669. 23:23where i live is i have a lot of local
  670. 23:25guys there and four volvo dealers
  671. 23:27that i can go to if the truck needs work
  672. 23:30on
  673. 23:31so is that is that what you do chris is
  674. 23:33that that you go to uh volvo or you have
  675. 23:36a independent shop that works on your
  676. 23:38truck
  677. 23:39i do both
  678. 23:40so when it comes to accessory items on
  679. 23:43the rig
  680. 23:44so if i have like a turbo or pulleys or
  681. 23:49um maybe it's the the cooling system
  682. 23:52so that that sort of such i will take to
  683. 23:55my independent guy and it's just because
  684. 23:57he's cheaper uh he charges like 95 an
  685. 24:00hour he's pretty good guy a little messy
  686. 24:03but you know you just give the truck a
  687. 24:05bath you call it a day
  688. 24:07when it when it comes down to when my
  689. 24:09truck starts throwing engine codes or
  690. 24:11starts throwing like uh anything having
  691. 24:14to do with the after treatment system i
  692. 24:15take it right to the dealer and i let
  693. 24:17them do a full diagnostic on it just to
  694. 24:19verify what's going on
  695. 24:21and then just because it's so finicky at
  696. 24:23least it's been that way with this rig
  697. 24:26this rig has had a very finicky life
  698. 24:28with its after treatment system
  699. 24:30and it's like a lot of it just because
  700. 24:32of how neglected it was for the years
  701. 24:33that it was like i i've had to rebuild
  702. 24:35it already the only thing i haven't
  703. 24:37replaced on the after treatment side of
  704. 24:39this rig is the scr everything else is
  705. 24:41brand new
  706. 24:43on the truck
  707. 24:45you're at 800 000 miles so um are you
  708. 24:49saving for that scr already
  709. 24:54um
  710. 24:55pretty much pretty much uh i was told
  711. 24:57that the ftr itself was like ten
  712. 24:59thousand dollars just
  713. 25:00just for the part that doesn't even
  714. 25:02include
  715. 25:03like what they have to do to install it
  716. 25:05and all that sort yeah labor labor
  717. 25:08involved
  718. 25:08the part itself is is expensive but you
  719. 25:11if
  720. 25:12it all depends on uh multiple things but
  721. 25:15usually
  722. 25:17you you're in that mile range that it
  723. 25:19could already start um you could start
  724. 25:24maybe seeing something that's gonna
  725. 25:25that's gonna indicate that you're going
  726. 25:27to have to uh switch it but
  727. 25:29tell me about so
  728. 25:31um
  729. 25:32when you got the truck from
  730. 25:34from the guy
  731. 25:36you had to put the emission since then
  732. 25:38or he did it for you and you just ran it
  733. 25:41or was it something that you had to
  734. 25:42address when you bought it
  735. 25:45no it's something i had to address right
  736. 25:47off the bat see the
  737. 25:49well okay not right off the bat i drove
  738. 25:51the truck for five months
  739. 25:53but every now and then i would get a
  740. 25:54knock sensor code and then it would ask
  741. 25:57for a heart rate gun i would do the
  742. 25:58regen and go away
  743. 26:00um
  744. 26:02and i wasn't sure
  745. 26:04that's when i talked to my buddy on the
  746. 26:06phone he's like well yeah it's been
  747. 26:07doing that for like for like a year
  748. 26:10like when i was driving it i'm like well
  749. 26:12then you didn't take it to a shop to
  750. 26:14address it he's like well no you just
  751. 26:15run the regen code goes away you drive
  752. 26:17down the highway just leave it alone
  753. 26:20so that's what i was doing well
  754. 26:23at one point it started to become more
  755. 26:24frequent it went from like every other
  756. 26:27month to every month to
  757. 26:29every couple of weeks and then it turned
  758. 26:31into every couple of days
  759. 26:33i'm like all right i got to get the
  760. 26:34singing and i got to figure out what is
  761. 26:36going on and it's my it's
  762. 26:38a lot of that's my fault i should have
  763. 26:40had a pre-inspection done on the rig
  764. 26:43proper to start with like had them pull
  765. 26:45the valve cover and check all that stuff
  766. 26:48man it was bad
  767. 26:50it was bad um
  768. 26:52but that's also chris that's also
  769. 26:53something that uh particularly in pre
  770. 26:56pre-inspection uh the scenario
  771. 26:59it's pretty hard to catch it because it
  772. 27:01did take you a little bit of time to
  773. 27:03actually start seeing the frequency go
  774. 27:05up which means you were just using it
  775. 27:07and then it was just getting clogged up
  776. 27:09and plugged up so
  777. 27:10necessarily if you actually checked for
  778. 27:12it
  779. 27:12the tech would say well it's good for
  780. 27:14now do you want to swap it now or do you
  781. 27:16want to keep going make some money and
  782. 27:17then put it back in here which i would
  783. 27:19recommend that
  784. 27:20you just never know at what point you
  785. 27:22actually have the you know what what
  786. 27:24when the the
  787. 27:26region's not going to go through and
  788. 27:27then you're going to have to tow the
  789. 27:28truck right so that's just that that's
  790. 27:30the risk but if you see the cadence
  791. 27:32increase then that's usually when when
  792. 27:35you want to you want to address it but
  793. 27:37the knocks so so sorry so uh
  794. 27:40what did you do did you just send the
  795. 27:42dpf to be baked or what did you do with
  796. 27:44it
  797. 27:45no it came out in pieces
  798. 27:47oh wow okay i took it to the dealership
  799. 27:49and they and then they were tearing they
  800. 27:51were kind of tearing it apart
  801. 27:53um the death filter was
  802. 27:55like rusted
  803. 27:57like it had never been replaced on the
  804. 27:58truck at all
  805. 28:00um
  806. 28:01the
  807. 28:02the the dev filter actually came out in
  808. 28:04three big pieces
  809. 28:06um
  810. 28:07there's the piping that goes from
  811. 28:11um
  812. 28:12from the turbo it's like a flex pipe
  813. 28:15that goes to down to the the d.o.c that
  814. 28:18was just riddled pin holes
  815. 28:21um
  816. 28:23and then
  817. 28:25like i said i had to replace all that
  818. 28:28and then just to finally get to the root
  819. 28:30cause of the whole problem i had six
  820. 28:32injectors that were bad
  821. 28:34they did a leak down that's typical
  822. 28:36that's typical it's typical and then
  823. 28:39once they fix that uh two weeks later i
  824. 28:41did the injectors i had to wait for
  825. 28:43parts to come in
  826. 28:44and two of the injectors had black soot
  827. 28:47all over the top of them
  828. 28:49it was it was bad so we did a six pack
  829. 28:52on it and then i had to put another
  830. 28:54turbo in it
  831. 28:57uh probably seven months later that was
  832. 28:59actually this year i put a new turbo in
  833. 29:00it the actuator is actually went bad not
  834. 29:03the turbo yeah and um
  835. 29:07the like everywhere i called said that
  836. 29:09while they don't do the actuator because
  837. 29:11you you used to be able to buy the
  838. 29:13actuator itself they don't do that
  839. 29:15anymore you have to buy the whole thing
  840. 29:17so i went ahead and did the whole thing
  841. 29:19and like now the truck is running like a
  842. 29:21champion
  843. 29:24cummins does separate
  844. 29:26commons has a separate actuator and
  845. 29:28turbo
  846. 29:29gotcha yeah okay it's it's a lot more
  847. 29:32expensive than volvo's turbo but still
  848. 29:34okay so you did that and then anything
  849. 29:37so do you do you have a ballpark of what
  850. 29:39it what it costs you
  851. 29:41remember so it cost me
  852. 29:43that first set of repairs that i did was
  853. 29:46like right at twenty thousand
  854. 29:48um
  855. 29:49i spent fifteen thousand doing
  856. 29:52rebuilding the after treatment system
  857. 29:54and then
  858. 29:55um
  859. 29:57then i did the
  860. 29:59uh the six packs of injectors that was
  861. 30:02another four thousand dollars
  862. 30:04and then i also had to address
  863. 30:07a
  864. 30:08coolant link
  865. 30:10that i had in the uh
  866. 30:12tank reservoir
  867. 30:14which is apparently a common thing on
  868. 30:15these so i just had them while they did
  869. 30:17the injectors they did that at the same
  870. 30:19time they didn't charge me into labor
  871. 30:21they just charged me parts to do that i
  872. 30:23thought that was cool and then had them
  873. 30:24do the
  874. 30:25had them um
  875. 30:27do the thermostat at the same time
  876. 30:30because again they were already that
  877. 30:32deep into it
  878. 30:33so
  879. 30:34yeah good okay
  880. 30:38good uh no and i was going to ask you so
  881. 30:41pretty much
  882. 30:42um the only thing right now that
  883. 30:45you i mean you've done all the emissions
  884. 30:47other than the scr which is going to
  885. 30:49probably you know i mean i think you
  886. 30:51still you
  887. 30:52i've seen trucks go up to a million you
  888. 30:54know i mean you it all depends on on
  889. 30:56many factors but usually what i found on
  890. 30:58on my d13s it's just a lot of that is
  891. 31:00electric too so before the actual the
  892. 31:03actual scr has issues or
  893. 31:05you have you start having uh
  894. 31:08uh you know uh
  895. 31:11issues with sensors usually you dig for
  896. 31:14the electrical because it's been a while
  897. 31:162013 it's been a while so you're gonna
  898. 31:18have some
  899. 31:19uh wiring issues which which usually
  900. 31:21uh fix the issue but at the same time i
  901. 31:24was gonna
  902. 31:25ask you are you putting your nox sensors
  903. 31:27are you doing oem or are you doing
  904. 31:29aftermarket
  905. 31:30oh yeah yeah i always recommend that
  906. 31:34we've had multiple issues i've tested a
  907. 31:35couple of aftermarket ones and they they
  908. 31:37never worked um so we just we just found
  909. 31:40whoever
  910. 31:41manufactures the oems and we just order
  911. 31:43a bulk because
  912. 31:45you're not saving it's it's it's cheaper
  913. 31:47but the like we had so many issues with
  914. 31:50with trucks not being not being able to
  915. 31:52complete regen and and um
  916. 31:56causing a lot of problems and i just
  917. 31:57walked away from the aftermarket i try
  918. 31:59to walk away from anything after market
  919. 32:02it has anything to do with emissions
  920. 32:04or the performance of the engine so
  921. 32:07yeah that's
  922. 32:08that's a good one
  923. 32:10the only thing aftermarket that i have
  924. 32:12is the dpf is aftermarket and this is
  925. 32:15because volvo did not have installed a
  926. 32:18dpf filter for me in stock to buy and
  927. 32:21they said they were on like a two month
  928. 32:22or three month back order but they had
  929. 32:26plenty of the aftermarket ones so i just
  930. 32:28went ahead and got one of them
  931. 32:29uh cheaper but i mean it still fits
  932. 32:32still works
  933. 32:33um spoke to quite a few different texts
  934. 32:35that said that they hadn't had any
  935. 32:36issues or callbacks with them so
  936. 32:39i just just went ahead and went with it
  937. 32:41uh what tires are you running
  938. 32:43are you any specific anything specific
  939. 32:45or you're just whatever you you want to
  940. 32:48afford you you can afford
  941. 32:51so currently i use i like i really like
  942. 32:53continental
  943. 32:55um so i currently have continental hs3
  944. 32:58pluses as spheres
  945. 32:59and then i run
  946. 33:01the
  947. 33:04the hdl2 dls on my drives
  948. 33:09and then they're 11r 22.5 that's 11r is
  949. 33:12what this truck was spec with when it
  950. 33:14was originally built so i just went
  951. 33:15ahead and
  952. 33:16kept it this way it didn't mess with the
  953. 33:18speedometer or any of that sort of such
  954. 33:20i know i probably could get better fuel
  955. 33:21economy going with
  956. 33:23like a 295 75
  957. 33:25you know low pro somewhere in that
  958. 33:27ballpark but it's
  959. 33:30there
  960. 33:30i got mixed feedback on
  961. 33:33making that jump on whether or not it
  962. 33:35would actually hurt anything in the gear
  963. 33:37train um by doing a tire change like
  964. 33:40that i didn't think it would but
  965. 33:42then again i'm also not a diesel tech
  966. 33:46yeah no no it wouldn't yeah the only one
  967. 33:48would be
  968. 33:49you would definitely save a decent
  969. 33:52amount on fuel but
  970. 33:54again decent i think it would be vis i
  971. 33:56think you would recognize it i think you
  972. 33:57would see it especially with some uh you
  973. 34:00know
  974. 34:01low rolling resistance tires you
  975. 34:03definitely you could get it especially
  976. 34:05when you when you run your truck you can
  977. 34:08put the low resistant tire in the back
  978. 34:10because you're you're taking care of it
  979. 34:12like for a fleet obviously it's a little
  980. 34:13different i used to think when i was
  981. 34:15driving much walk
  982. 34:16now you can get super singles you can
  983. 34:18play with it and kind of monitor what's
  984. 34:19happening but if you're starting to have
  985. 34:21a fleet
  986. 34:22drivers don't care and you're putting
  987. 34:23expensive tires
  988. 34:25and it's just like
  989. 34:26you know a couple mistakes you go to a
  990. 34:29place where you shouldn't and all of a
  991. 34:30sudden you're losing an expensive set of
  992. 34:32tires as an owner up i strongly
  993. 34:34recommend low resistance tires
  994. 34:35especially the type of work that you do
  995. 34:38um
  996. 34:38that's that's
  997. 34:40that's going to save you you know all
  998. 34:42those things add up right the tires the
  999. 34:44the size of the wheel the arrow you have
  1000. 34:46around the truck the uh how fast you
  1001. 34:49drive this speed is the number one thing
  1002. 34:50but
  1003. 34:51um
  1004. 34:52yeah so
  1005. 34:54uh yeah it wouldn't change anything you
  1006. 34:55would just have to recalibrate the
  1007. 34:57speedometer which
  1008. 34:58you know any volvo dealer would do it
  1009. 35:00for you
  1010. 35:05interesting yeah also do that next time
  1011. 35:08i'll i'll definitely keep that in mind
  1012. 35:09next time i buy tires yeah the only
  1013. 35:11thing you would have to just remember
  1014. 35:13the there's a different rim size too so
  1015. 35:16you're gonna have to find rims that that
  1016. 35:17could be costly right but if you have if
  1017. 35:20you have those the rims uh already or if
  1018. 35:22you find cheap deal on the rims then you
  1019. 35:24just swap the i would swap it out i
  1020. 35:28would go to lowepro
  1021. 35:31yeah
  1022. 35:32tell me
  1023. 35:33tell me
  1024. 35:35uh if you were gonna start
  1025. 35:38you've been doing this
  1026. 35:39for some time but if you're gonna start
  1027. 35:41today what advice would you give to
  1028. 35:42yourself
  1029. 35:48um
  1030. 35:51i didn't send you that question today
  1031. 35:53man
  1032. 35:54no i wasn't expecting that one what
  1033. 35:56would i tell myself um
  1034. 36:02honestly i don't know i i really don't
  1035. 36:04know what i would tell myself if i were
  1036. 36:06starting this today
  1037. 36:07other than
  1038. 36:12the only thing i can come up with is
  1039. 36:13just kind of go with your gut feeling
  1040. 36:15like sometimes when you're booking
  1041. 36:17freight and you're trying to look for
  1042. 36:19loads and
  1043. 36:21you you have an idea in your head of
  1044. 36:23where you want to go
  1045. 36:25because you know that the next area
  1046. 36:27you're going to go to is going to put
  1047. 36:28you
  1048. 36:30into a like a better area for freight
  1049. 36:33you know you you may deliver to some
  1050. 36:34ho-dunk area
  1051. 36:36and then the next load
  1052. 36:37might take you to the next major city
  1053. 36:40for you to grab something really good
  1054. 36:42but it only pays like a dirt cheap
  1055. 36:43amount
  1056. 36:45or you could just deadhead there
  1057. 36:47get there to that kind of freight and
  1058. 36:49and go with it anyways and i have been
  1059. 36:51burned so many times
  1060. 36:53on this thought theory that if i have
  1061. 36:55less than 50 miles deadhead i'm making
  1062. 36:57money
  1063. 36:59so many times i have lost money
  1064. 37:02booking that freight and then being like
  1065. 37:03oh well it's going to take 10 hours to
  1066. 37:05unload you or all the the shipper you or
  1067. 37:08the receiver you've gone to is going to
  1068. 37:11take
  1069. 37:12five hours to unload that and which
  1070. 37:14now screws up the next load you want to
  1071. 37:16go pick up because you scheduled
  1072. 37:18yourself
  1073. 37:19in a particular way
  1074. 37:21you know for like a two or three hour
  1075. 37:22unload
  1076. 37:24and uh
  1077. 37:25man a lot of times i was second guessing
  1078. 37:27myself just saying like you know what i
  1079. 37:28should just deadhead there and a lot of
  1080. 37:30times i took myself out of it
  1081. 37:31and just just you gotta stick with your
  1082. 37:33gut
  1083. 37:34like sometimes you just know
  1084. 37:37so learning learning
  1085. 37:39lanes right so learning to because some
  1086. 37:42of those some of the things are
  1087. 37:44unpredictable almost right with with
  1088. 37:46long
  1089. 37:47unloads but
  1090. 37:48learning lanes and understanding
  1091. 37:50probably the the the spot market
  1092. 37:53if you you know if you're running otr uh
  1093. 37:55as an independent or with somebody just
  1094. 37:57knowing how to plan properly yourself to
  1095. 38:00to get the best roi on the rig right to
  1096. 38:02have
  1097. 38:03all the mileage covered
  1098. 38:05what about what about truck advice
  1099. 38:09what would you say to a guy if somebody
  1100. 38:10was asking you uh
  1101. 38:13how to get started with a truck
  1102. 38:20let me ask you a different question
  1103. 38:22what do you think was
  1104. 38:25i just kind of take it took it to
  1105. 38:27something else right now because
  1106. 38:28i would ask you
  1107. 38:31what was your biggest mess up or your
  1108. 38:32biggest um
  1109. 38:34screw-up
  1110. 38:35uh or your biggest hurdle that you went
  1111. 38:38through
  1112. 38:39um in your in your own operating biggest
  1113. 38:42hurdle that i went through
  1114. 38:46biggest hurdle that i probably went
  1115. 38:48through
  1116. 38:49was
  1117. 38:50i honestly was actually buying this rig
  1118. 38:53um
  1119. 38:54i had i had the option to buy a
  1120. 38:57different truck
  1121. 38:59um it was a
  1122. 39:01it was a 2016 mac
  1123. 39:04with uh with an mp8 which is this is the
  1124. 39:07same as the d13 same time there are some
  1125. 39:10differences but it's the same thing
  1126. 39:12uh pretty much but it had an i shift
  1127. 39:14transmission
  1128. 39:15it had 300 000
  1129. 39:17miles and they only wanted 36 000 for
  1130. 39:19the truck
  1131. 39:21and
  1132. 39:22with the amount of money that i have
  1133. 39:23made
  1134. 39:24and put into this rig i could have paid
  1135. 39:26that one off
  1136. 39:28inside of a year
  1137. 39:30and that's probably the route that i
  1138. 39:31should have gone
  1139. 39:33um
  1140. 39:34but do you think that 2016 wouldn't have
  1141. 39:37issues
  1142. 39:38i'm sure it would have issues but it i
  1143. 39:40probably would have ran into those
  1144. 39:42issues much later down the road because
  1145. 39:45if i had ran into those issues in the
  1146. 39:46first year it was warranty
  1147. 39:49oh okay even at 36 000 miles like the
  1148. 39:52the previous owner who bought the truck
  1149. 39:54for ran a fleet and
  1150. 39:55he only bought from this dealership they
  1151. 39:57always were new
  1152. 39:58all the work was done at that particular
  1153. 40:00dealership all the time it went nowhere
  1154. 40:02else to get work done so they had a
  1155. 40:04complete full work history on the rig
  1156. 40:07they knew everything that they had ever
  1157. 40:09done to the to the truck
  1158. 40:11um
  1159. 40:14it was very well maintained
  1160. 40:16you know all that sort of such right you
  1161. 40:18know just all up and up from there but
  1162. 40:19then the guy also bought the extended
  1163. 40:21warranty to go with it too so it
  1164. 40:23actually took the warranty to 800 000
  1165. 40:25miles oh wow
  1166. 40:27yeah so the truck had i think the truck
  1167. 40:30had like 616 000 or 609 000 miles so i
  1168. 40:35was covered for the first two years
  1169. 40:36easily right so
  1170. 40:40with this rig event you know i've paid
  1171. 40:43out over almost forty thousand dollars
  1172. 40:45in just repairs at forty thousand
  1173. 40:47dollars and i easily paid off that other
  1174. 40:49truck inside the first year and it's not
  1175. 40:51like i haven't made that money here at
  1176. 40:52landstar i've i've easily made that like
  1177. 40:55here here's the thing like even though i
  1178. 40:57put a lot of money into this rig i paid
  1179. 40:59cash for all of it
  1180. 41:01i did not have to take a loan on any of
  1181. 41:03it like i did
  1182. 41:05cash money went down into it and that's
  1183. 41:07hard to do
  1184. 41:09yeah that really is hard to do you know
  1185. 41:10if that's if that that's actually
  1186. 41:12probably would be my first that'd
  1187. 41:15probably be one of the things that i
  1188. 41:16would tell myself
  1189. 41:18right off the bat is bank that money
  1190. 41:21and then try your best and not spend it
  1191. 41:23because it's you don't know what's going
  1192. 41:25to come down the pike like i'm currently
  1193. 41:26saving up to in frame this truck
  1194. 41:29with the way the market's currently
  1195. 41:30going and with
  1196. 41:33with the way truck prices have just been
  1197. 41:35all over the place this last two years
  1198. 41:38it just makes more sense for me to
  1199. 41:40rebuild this than what it is to try to
  1200. 41:41buy a new one and get into a payment
  1201. 41:44so like that's that's currently the goal
  1202. 41:46is i'm saving up the money i'm going to
  1203. 41:48end frame the rig and then i'm going to
  1204. 41:50redo the screws at the same time
  1205. 41:52you know this way i could try to get
  1206. 41:53that fuel economy like
  1207. 41:55with having like a a good solid engine
  1208. 41:59and um
  1209. 42:00the good thing is the good the good
  1210. 42:02thing chris is that
  1211. 42:05with the d13 i can i can tell you you're
  1212. 42:08not going to have to in frame that until
  1213. 42:09at least 1200 1. 1.2
  1214. 42:13i can confidently say that the d13s
  1215. 42:16are
  1216. 42:17solid engines you could
  1217. 42:19that's good you're doing it i'm not
  1218. 42:21saying you shouldn't but definitely
  1219. 42:23you have some time
  1220. 42:25which i would argue
  1221. 42:27if you watch if how the engine's running
  1222. 42:30and performing
  1223. 42:31you might run into
  1224. 42:33additional set of problems with
  1225. 42:35emissions because if you start
  1226. 42:38um
  1227. 42:39you know if you're going to start having
  1228. 42:41a lot of soot and you're going to be
  1229. 42:43you're going to watch watch the
  1230. 42:44injectors because that's going to just
  1231. 42:45clog up your system again and that's
  1232. 42:47going to cost you a pretty penny to get
  1233. 42:49that fixed right but
  1234. 42:51as far as in frame
  1235. 42:53i
  1236. 42:54i'm pretty confident you're not going to
  1237. 42:56have to do it for a long time as long as
  1238. 42:58you take care of the the engine and
  1239. 43:01um just emissions right to me always the
  1240. 43:03emissions are the the biggest enemy
  1241. 43:05because if you don't have enough dry
  1242. 43:07powder in your in your savings account
  1243. 43:09to tackle that it usually wipes people
  1244. 43:12out just because it's a very expensive
  1245. 43:15fix because a lot of troubleshooting and
  1246. 43:17then trying to find the issue you fix it
  1247. 43:19and then your engine
  1248. 43:20has issues and then you're messing it up
  1249. 43:22again right
  1250. 43:26you know and it's
  1251. 43:28and it's something it's it's another
  1252. 43:29section of the truck that has to be
  1253. 43:31serviced on the regular too
  1254. 43:33like
  1255. 43:34probably one of the biggest issues that
  1256. 43:36my buddy had when he ran his truck
  1257. 43:38when and i especially when i was driving
  1258. 43:41and i i wasn't helping either
  1259. 43:43was like he had never had the truck
  1260. 43:45service for that portion of the
  1261. 43:47of the engine at all
  1262. 43:49and because of that i ended up
  1263. 43:51rebuilding it
  1264. 43:53so i mean that just what it boils down
  1265. 43:54to but if you regularly service it just
  1266. 43:56like you do anything else yeah it costs
  1267. 43:58more it costs more to service that sort
  1268. 44:00of such but as long as you're doing
  1269. 44:02those sorts of things and keeping
  1270. 44:03everything clean as best you can in
  1271. 44:05regular intervals it's going to last
  1272. 44:07just as long as everything else does you
  1273. 44:09know i mean volvo even comes out or has
  1274. 44:11a sheet
  1275. 44:12that tells you like yo this is when this
  1276. 44:14needs clean this is when this needs done
  1277. 44:16this is you know
  1278. 44:18that's something i didn't even realize
  1279. 44:19they had until
  1280. 44:21my first major repair
  1281. 44:24yeah
  1282. 44:25and um
  1283. 44:27now i kind of now i follow it
  1284. 44:29um
  1285. 44:30yeah true uh what is what do you think
  1286. 44:32is missing in the upper owner operator
  1287. 44:34world
  1288. 44:38what do you think own operators need
  1289. 44:39more
  1290. 44:41of
  1291. 44:42what do we need more
  1292. 44:45honestly it's
  1293. 44:48for whatever reason this this industry
  1294. 44:50has turned into an every man for himself
  1295. 44:53rather than actually helping others
  1296. 44:55anymore and and i don't know why it made
  1297. 44:58that
  1298. 44:58that change that it did
  1299. 45:01um
  1300. 45:02i've spoken to a lot of drivers that
  1301. 45:03it's almost kind of like fishing you
  1302. 45:06know everybody has like that one fishing
  1303. 45:08hall that they go to and they never want
  1304. 45:10to give up or get rid of or or help
  1305. 45:12others out because they've got maybe a
  1306. 45:14particular technique or a particular
  1307. 45:16lure or they've got a or something right
  1308. 45:19the same things in the trucking industry
  1309. 45:21you know i mean at the end of the day
  1310. 45:23we're all trying to make money here and
  1311. 45:25we're all trying to and i understand
  1312. 45:27that we're competing with each other you
  1313. 45:29know even even here at landstar i can
  1314. 45:30compete with other bcos for the freight
  1315. 45:32that i grab
  1316. 45:33but at the same time we don't want to
  1317. 45:35see anybody fail either
  1318. 45:38and that's that's kind of the hardest
  1319. 45:40thing to get over is
  1320. 45:41like when you see something like
  1321. 45:43somebody struggling or if you notice
  1322. 45:45that there's a
  1323. 45:47that they're about to struggle
  1324. 45:49it's it's it it's helping to get them
  1325. 45:51informed
  1326. 45:53of well what hurdle they're about to go
  1327. 45:55over and what they're going to have to
  1328. 45:57save up for i mean this conversation is
  1329. 45:59one of them you were you know you talked
  1330. 46:00about
  1331. 46:01you know having them worrying about that
  1332. 46:03str coming up here real soon like i know
  1333. 46:06it's something i'm gonna have to that
  1334. 46:07i'm gonna have to deal with
  1335. 46:09in the near future
  1336. 46:10but
  1337. 46:12i didn't know that six months ago i
  1338. 46:14didn't know that eight months ago it
  1339. 46:15wasn't until i had another conversation
  1340. 46:18with another volvo owner kind of like
  1341. 46:20what we're having now
  1342. 46:21for me to learn that you know and it's
  1343. 46:23those kinds of things you know
  1344. 46:26yeah and people
  1345. 46:28and that
  1346. 46:30there was a there was a time here at
  1347. 46:32landstar where i was kind of struggling
  1348. 46:34with
  1349. 46:35booking freight
  1350. 46:36and
  1351. 46:38like the the various facebook groups
  1352. 46:40that i was on could see that i was
  1353. 46:42struggling a little bit
  1354. 46:44and
  1355. 46:45you know i spoke to my advisor my
  1356. 46:46advisor poked me into a couple other
  1357. 46:48people
  1358. 46:49and they were giving me a couple of the
  1359. 46:50honey holes to talk to to be able to get
  1360. 46:53freight going and it was like it was
  1361. 46:55right after i just got done spending 15
  1362. 46:56grand about cleared myself out because i
  1363. 46:58didn't realize that i thought having 15
  1364. 47:01grand and i'd be just fine for
  1365. 47:03for
  1366. 47:05uh for money enough and
  1367. 47:06i did that in one shot
  1368. 47:09so
  1369. 47:10it's like so like now i've got that
  1370. 47:12mentality like everything like as much
  1371. 47:14as i can throw in there i can you know
  1372. 47:17obviously i got to keep the house and
  1373. 47:18the wife and the kids happy you know and
  1374. 47:20that's fine
  1375. 47:21but like the truck is what feeds the
  1376. 47:23table at the end of the day
  1377. 47:25you know exactly
  1378. 47:27and it's why i like help
  1379. 47:29like i try my best to help others that
  1380. 47:31have those kinds of questions when it
  1381. 47:32comes to financing is
  1382. 47:34like like right now i run a zero deck
  1383. 47:36company and and i have from day one
  1384. 47:39um
  1385. 47:40kind of proud of that
  1386. 47:42someone is showing by at a time no you
  1387. 47:44should be that's that's a hell of a job
  1388. 47:48no i do my best
  1389. 47:50granted i got lucky i lucky buying the
  1390. 47:53truck that i'm in now but i mean it's
  1391. 47:55you know
  1392. 47:56but uh
  1393. 47:58she's been running really good here
  1394. 47:59lately i haven't haven't really had
  1395. 48:01issues since february at all she's you
  1396. 48:04know pretty strong
  1397. 48:05um
  1398. 48:07the market is what's been trying to
  1399. 48:09try to work around but you know the
  1400. 48:11dedicated help
  1401. 48:12you know but it it took hard work to get
  1402. 48:15you know to set that dedicated up and to
  1403. 48:17get that relationship made with the
  1404. 48:19agents to do so
  1405. 48:21yeah um yeah
  1406. 48:22no you're definitely doing a hell of a
  1407. 48:24job and i i was going to ask you
  1408. 48:26what do you think we could do
  1409. 48:28uh in our own operator forum group what
  1410. 48:31do you think um
  1411. 48:33what do you think we should
  1412. 48:34how can we you know i started a facebook
  1413. 48:37group just because i i wanted to
  1414. 48:39take it away from
  1415. 48:41the youtube and more of a have a
  1416. 48:43community where really owners care about
  1417. 48:45helping each other it's just not that
  1418. 48:48you know ego or maybe just like hey like
  1419. 48:51genuinely trying to help and i i've
  1420. 48:52noticed you've been helping a lot and i
  1421. 48:54appreciate that because this is it
  1422. 48:55that's why
  1423. 48:56i was like hey i want to talk to chris
  1424. 48:58because
  1425. 48:59that's what i that's what i want to do
  1426. 49:02at heart is i want to help as much as i
  1427. 49:04can with whatever i can so drivers can
  1428. 49:06do better choices and maybe have some
  1429. 49:08more info and make better decisions what
  1430. 49:10do you think we could do more in our own
  1431. 49:13operator forum group
  1432. 49:19probably the the one thing that i would
  1433. 49:21say that we could do more
  1434. 49:24is is kind of helping people understand
  1435. 49:26the financial side of things
  1436. 49:28um because it is
  1437. 49:31the
  1438. 49:32the statistic that blows me away the
  1439. 49:34most
  1440. 49:35is that
  1441. 49:36three out of every 10 owner operators
  1442. 49:39actually make it as an owner operator
  1443. 49:40after five years
  1444. 49:42like that is such a small number of
  1445. 49:45drivers
  1446. 49:46and and the biggest killer is is being
  1447. 49:50able to manage their money
  1448. 49:52and
  1449. 49:54so it would it would be really neat
  1450. 49:56i don't i don't know how we would be
  1451. 49:58able to implement it or how i could even
  1452. 50:00help to implement it but it would be
  1453. 50:02how
  1454. 50:04how do we set up a deal to be able to
  1455. 50:06help others understand that finances are
  1456. 50:09very important and to try to put back as
  1457. 50:11much as you can
  1458. 50:12to the truck
  1459. 50:13because a lot of people have this
  1460. 50:14mentality
  1461. 50:16but my buddy has this problem he still
  1462. 50:17has this problem now
  1463. 50:19um he thinks that you get paid first and
  1464. 50:22then the truck gets paid
  1465. 50:24and that is such a that's a terrible way
  1466. 50:27of going about doing it the truck means
  1467. 50:30that regardless of what happens during
  1468. 50:32the week if you have a baller week you
  1469. 50:34make sure the truck gets it you know
  1470. 50:35gets that extra bonus for that baller
  1471. 50:37week and if you're having
  1472. 50:39if you had a terrible week
  1473. 50:41you know maybe you go you don't come
  1474. 50:43home with as much cheddar but the truck
  1475. 50:45still needs its money regardless of what
  1476. 50:47it is and that that is so hard for
  1477. 50:49people to wrap their head around because
  1478. 50:51that's just not the mentality they're
  1479. 50:53used to having then you know they they
  1480. 50:55come out here and they do this and they
  1481. 50:56get the first few paychecks and they're
  1482. 50:58like wow i just made ten thousand
  1483. 51:00dollars or i just made twenty thousand
  1484. 51:02dollars in a month
  1485. 51:04and then they go blow it they go buy a
  1486. 51:06car or they buy a boat or they they
  1487. 51:08maybe they buy a bigger house than what
  1488. 51:11they should you know
  1489. 51:13that or maybe they put a bunch of chrome
  1490. 51:15on their rig or or do a bunch of touch
  1491. 51:17and then
  1492. 51:19then when it comes down
  1493. 51:20to actually fixing the truck when a
  1494. 51:23major breakdown happens
  1495. 51:25then they try to well well i can't do
  1496. 51:27this i have to finance it then they go
  1497. 51:29finance it and then they don't pay off
  1498. 51:31what they finance because they're like
  1499. 51:33oh well i just got a payment truck truck
  1500. 51:35will be fine for another six months let
  1501. 51:37me tell you that's not how that works in
  1502. 51:38the real world
  1503. 51:40yep yeah
  1504. 51:42that's a good that's a good advice
  1505. 51:44sorry go ahead
  1506. 51:46my dad had a big influence on that my
  1507. 51:48dad was a farmer for many years and i
  1508. 51:51even helped him out when i was a kid and
  1509. 51:53all the way up into my team kind of
  1510. 51:55watching him how he budgeted money from
  1511. 51:56the farm because he made sure that the
  1512. 51:58farm took care of itself each year he
  1513. 52:01didn't really make a lot of money off of
  1514. 52:02it but
  1515. 52:04or at least okay profit he didn't really
  1516. 52:06make much off of it but like the farm
  1517. 52:07still made enough money to buy its own
  1518. 52:09seed fix its own equipment do all that
  1519. 52:12sort of such and i just kind of
  1520. 52:13translated that to what i'm currently
  1521. 52:15doing now which is like a lot of drivers
  1522. 52:17would have went belly up
  1523. 52:19with with the repairs that i that i had
  1524. 52:21to make
  1525. 52:22just in the year and a half of owning
  1526. 52:24this rig
  1527. 52:26yeah yeah
  1528. 52:28i agree with you a hundred percent i i
  1529. 52:30almost want to take it a little
  1530. 52:33uh my angle always was
  1531. 52:35uh you know the the entry level the
  1532. 52:38entry to trucking is somewhat low
  1533. 52:40because you could just go out and buy a
  1534. 52:42rig right
  1535. 52:43and that's why a lot of owners don't
  1536. 52:45make it because not only they don't have
  1537. 52:47the financial
  1538. 52:48maybe knowledge or maybe
  1539. 52:50resources to learn about uh about it but
  1540. 52:53what i what i look at is
  1541. 52:55when you buy a truck which is what you
  1542. 52:57do what how you did it
  1543. 52:59you have to have this enough cushion and
  1544. 53:01just take care of it as a long-term
  1545. 53:02investment think about it as a long-term
  1546. 53:04plan and and running it as a business
  1547. 53:07and that's primarily the problem with
  1548. 53:09with owner ops like you said they're
  1549. 53:11getting the big paychecks and all of a
  1550. 53:12sudden transmission goes out and you're
  1551. 53:14out 15 000 well and you have a nice car
  1552. 53:17but the truck needs that transmission
  1553. 53:19right and it's a
  1554. 53:20it's a dif it's a
  1555. 53:22it is a learning curve one obviously
  1556. 53:24because you have to you know
  1557. 53:27really be committed to making it like if
  1558. 53:29you commit to hey i'm gonna figure this
  1559. 53:31out it's what do you do you you you
  1560. 53:34educate yourself and when i drove as a
  1561. 53:37as an owner up and i started my company
  1562. 53:39same thing i would listen to people try
  1563. 53:41to find resources to be able to hey how
  1564. 53:44can i how can i do this and and that's
  1565. 53:46what i think
  1566. 53:47i would like to provide uh is exactly
  1567. 53:49what we're doing right now is talking
  1568. 53:51about it but two having a community in
  1569. 53:53which owners like you
  1570. 53:55new owners come in and have the
  1571. 53:57mentor-mentee relationship where guys
  1572. 53:59could really have some advice from guys
  1573. 54:02on how to make it better because
  1574. 54:03ultimately
  1575. 54:04my goal is to do better trucking
  1576. 54:07and that's just my mission right like i
  1577. 54:08it doesn't have to be
  1578. 54:10spectacular and you're not gonna be a
  1579. 54:12millionaire but you should just you
  1580. 54:13should just try to do it a little better
  1581. 54:15and i i really appreciate
  1582. 54:18the feedback as i do
  1583. 54:20i do miss i missed it i missed i missed
  1584. 54:22i have a lot of content that that's
  1585. 54:24about trucks because that's what i feel
  1586. 54:26a lot of the
  1587. 54:28money sucking mistakes happen that's why
  1588. 54:30i want to talk about trucks because
  1589. 54:31usually
  1590. 54:32um that helps a lot and then but you're
  1591. 54:35right the financial aspect
  1592. 54:38of being an owner operator is something
  1593. 54:39that is very important and the cash flow
  1594. 54:42understanding cash flows and how to how
  1595. 54:44to manage your money your it's a good
  1596. 54:46feedback man i really appreciate that
  1597. 54:49well and i i rarely work on my own rig
  1598. 54:52like it's
  1599. 54:54nine times out of ten if if there's
  1600. 54:55something that needs fixed on the truck
  1601. 54:57i take it for somebody else to go do it
  1602. 54:59and get it done but i can only do that
  1603. 55:01because of the fact that i'm i'm
  1604. 55:03disciplined enough to make sure that
  1605. 55:04there's money in savings for the truck
  1606. 55:07for that to happen like the truck has
  1607. 55:09its own account to deal with those sorts
  1608. 55:11of problems and to deal with those sorts
  1609. 55:13of things
  1610. 55:14and yeah i could probably save money by
  1611. 55:16doing a lot of that myself but you know
  1612. 55:18i've also got a three-year-old at home
  1613. 55:20and to me it's worth the money to take
  1614. 55:22it to a dealer or take it to my mechanic
  1615. 55:25or one of those one of those sorts of
  1616. 55:27deals
  1617. 55:28you know and
  1618. 55:29and just have them do it
  1619. 55:31but at the same time i would argue
  1620. 55:34you you know what to tell them like you
  1621. 55:36understand your rig right yeah and and i
  1622. 55:38see that on my shop side that that's not
  1623. 55:41necessarily the case and standard uh
  1624. 55:43drivers come with trucks and they have
  1625. 55:45no idea what's going on and then they're
  1626. 55:47upset because you tell them they're
  1627. 55:49you know scr is out right and and they
  1628. 55:52need a new scr so so i i agree i agree
  1629. 55:55with you you don't necessarily have to
  1630. 55:56work on your truck you just have to know
  1631. 55:58and understand the truck to make sure
  1632. 55:59that the shop you work with is not
  1633. 56:02coming up with crazy things
  1634. 56:06and and whatever truck you're driving
  1635. 56:08like
  1636. 56:09like this is probably one of my one of
  1637. 56:11my other pieces of advice that i would
  1638. 56:13give to especially new drivers is
  1639. 56:16whatever truck you decide to buy and all
  1640. 56:18trucks have their own quarters
  1641. 56:20stay away from international with their
  1642. 56:23navistar engine or whatever that max
  1643. 56:25force max force that oh god stay away
  1644. 56:28from that pier don't buy one
  1645. 56:30but
  1646. 56:32usually most seller trucks like every
  1647. 56:35one of them have their own quirks right
  1648. 56:37i mean it's that's just the thing but
  1649. 56:40learning those corks
  1650. 56:41understanding
  1651. 56:43when what will go out when
  1652. 56:46knowing that ahead of time is huge
  1653. 56:49it'll really allow you to budget
  1654. 56:51ahead of time for like you'll be like
  1655. 56:54okay why i drive uh
  1656. 56:56you know well we'll take my truck for
  1657. 56:58example i know that this truck is an
  1658. 57:00injector fiend
  1659. 57:01you know usually
  1660. 57:03three hundred thousand four hundred
  1661. 57:05thousand put a six-pack in it like that
  1662. 57:07that's just what's gonna happen right so
  1663. 57:09i know that in that time i'm going to
  1664. 57:12budget
  1665. 57:13to make sure that i have that money in
  1666. 57:15the account later on
  1667. 57:18to where when that problem arises i just
  1668. 57:19get it done yeah
  1669. 57:21you know and it doesn't matter what
  1670. 57:22truck you drive cascadia is the same way
  1671. 57:25they have their own quirks you've got
  1672. 57:28you know kenworth's doing their own
  1673. 57:29thing you've got peter belts on their
  1674. 57:30own thing pac cars and their whole other
  1675. 57:32league
  1676. 57:34you know i mean every engine has their
  1677. 57:35own quirk every transmission has their
  1678. 57:37own quirk
  1679. 57:39it's all it's
  1680. 57:41and you can do a lot of research on
  1681. 57:42there are a ton of youtube videos forums
  1682. 57:44that you can join
  1683. 57:46um i'm actually part of a group it's a
  1684. 57:48volvo masters group it's a great group
  1685. 57:50yeah i'm there too yeah
  1686. 57:52you know you have issues with your rig
  1687. 57:54or maybe you've got codes that popped up
  1688. 57:55that you don't know what they are you
  1689. 57:57know they
  1690. 57:58they are more than willing to help you
  1691. 57:59go through
  1692. 58:00and kind of give you at least a general
  1693. 58:03idea
  1694. 58:04you know this way when you go and talk
  1695. 58:05to a dealership you can kind of point
  1696. 58:08them in somewhat of a near direction as
  1697. 58:10to what you're looking at and what
  1698. 58:11you're thinking you know and then they
  1699. 58:13can kind of go from there and take it
  1700. 58:14from there
  1701. 58:15um
  1702. 58:17but that's that's huge is learning
  1703. 58:19because i'm not a diesel tech i went to
  1704. 58:21college for automotive like i can i i
  1705. 58:24was trained on how to build cars and how
  1706. 58:26to make them go fast you know that's
  1707. 58:28that's what i did in college
  1708. 58:30i don't know a dang thing about diesels
  1709. 58:31when it comes to that matter
  1710. 58:38and learning the various different
  1711. 58:40things to
  1712. 58:41um
  1713. 58:43this way i actually sound fairly
  1714. 58:45confident when i go to a dealer but then
  1715. 58:47i also know what i'm looking for when
  1716. 58:48i'm pre-tripping my truck
  1717. 58:50you know like especially looking for the
  1718. 58:52common issue
  1719. 58:54yeah
  1720. 58:55no you definitely do uh know your stuff
  1721. 58:58and i would say
  1722. 59:00um
  1723. 59:01we
  1724. 59:02i would just want to know from you
  1725. 59:03what's your plan for the future now uh
  1726. 59:05what what how are you seeing next three
  1727. 59:07years for yourself and what's your what
  1728. 59:09are your plans
  1729. 59:10well the next three years
  1730. 59:14next three years i'll probably still be
  1731. 59:15in this rig i'd like to have something
  1732. 59:17different myself and it's just
  1733. 59:20this particular year of truck and engine
  1734. 59:23are a little bit more of the problem
  1735. 59:24child
  1736. 59:25um it's when you get into
  1737. 59:28you get a little bit newer
  1738. 59:30truck before they did the the common
  1739. 59:32rail and they're they're a bit more
  1740. 59:34reliable
  1741. 59:36um
  1742. 59:37i don't i don't know why volvo has that
  1743. 59:39but it's like they do a first generation
  1744. 59:41of anything and then it just kind of
  1745. 59:42goes downhill it's it's like that
  1746. 59:45anybody second or third yeah yeah you
  1747. 59:47get into the second or third iteration
  1748. 59:48all of a sudden things are working well
  1749. 59:50um
  1750. 59:52but i'll probably have a different truck
  1751. 59:54in three years by that point better i'll
  1752. 59:56have this one rebuilt
  1753. 59:58and driving we'll see what the market
  1754. 59:59does but like i really have no
  1755. 1:00:01intentions of expanding into like i'm
  1756. 1:00:04probably just gonna just do this one
  1757. 1:00:06truck and call it a day
  1758. 1:00:07um
  1759. 1:00:09but like i'm i hate doing paperwork it's
  1760. 1:00:12probably the one thing i hate most
  1761. 1:00:14like i just want to drive the truck
  1762. 1:00:17and my wife won't do the secretary work
  1763. 1:00:19either so
  1764. 1:00:20so i'm stuck doing all of it
  1765. 1:00:22so i i couldn't imagine trying to do
  1766. 1:00:24payroll with like this is where like i
  1767. 1:00:27commend you 100 on that there's no way i
  1768. 1:00:29could do payroll at the same time i'm
  1769. 1:00:31trying to pay a bunch of like i
  1770. 1:00:33i barely even trust anybody to move my
  1771. 1:00:35truck from my parking spot to a garage
  1772. 1:00:38let alone let somebody drive it across
  1773. 1:00:39the country and haul freight
  1774. 1:00:42yeah
  1775. 1:00:43so yeah oh and you know what it's
  1776. 1:00:46you can have a really good life doing
  1777. 1:00:48what you're doing and i it's either all
  1778. 1:00:50in or owner up that's how i looked at it
  1779. 1:00:52i really enjoyed it as a single owner
  1780. 1:00:54operator but i wanted to you know i
  1781. 1:00:56wanted to build something else and i i
  1782. 1:00:58understand it's like
  1783. 1:01:00if you figure this out and you can make
  1784. 1:01:03money and you have a life that you want
  1785. 1:01:05and you're happy that's the number one
  1786. 1:01:06thing that i that i go for right like
  1787. 1:01:08you
  1788. 1:01:09you don't have to you don't have to
  1789. 1:01:10build a fleet of trucks you don't have
  1790. 1:01:11to build a trucking company you can have
  1791. 1:01:13a really nice life uh being one truck
  1792. 1:01:14operator but chris it's been an hour
  1793. 1:01:17believe it or not and um i re i i yeah i
  1794. 1:01:20know right
  1795. 1:01:21so let's do let's plan for this next
  1796. 1:01:23time you're in chicago uh just hit me up
  1797. 1:01:26uh text me and just stop by at the shop
  1798. 1:01:28and we'll chat a little more maybe shoot
  1799. 1:01:30something i want to shoot a video with
  1800. 1:01:31your rig
  1801. 1:01:32and uh
  1802. 1:01:33yeah are you gonna are you planning to
  1803. 1:01:35be here
  1804. 1:01:36anytime soon or do you have a load
  1805. 1:01:37already
  1806. 1:01:38booked
  1807. 1:01:40well i'm hoping to get an apu installed
  1808. 1:01:42on the truck
  1809. 1:01:44i think i got it scheduled for july
  1810. 1:01:46we're going to see how that goes um and
  1811. 1:01:49having a green apu put in yeah the
  1812. 1:01:52green's a company it's not a battery one
  1813. 1:01:54but uh from what i'm told green's a
  1814. 1:01:56pretty good unit to buy
  1815. 1:01:58as well as like thermo king but i kind
  1816. 1:02:00of like the idea of being able to go to
  1817. 1:02:01o'reilly's and buy parts for it
  1818. 1:02:04so which is why i'm going with the green
  1819. 1:02:06apu instead yeah i know i know those
  1820. 1:02:08guys good that's a good unit uh and
  1821. 1:02:09we're not too far so if you are planning
  1822. 1:02:12to come and you're scheduled just again
  1823. 1:02:14shoot me a text and let's
  1824. 1:02:15stop by and or even before if you're
  1825. 1:02:17around just let me know i'm around
  1826. 1:02:19always around the shop or in the shop or
  1827. 1:02:22in here and it would be nice to you know
  1828. 1:02:25chat more about trucks and other things
  1829. 1:02:27that
  1830. 1:02:28that are happening in the industry so
  1831. 1:02:31appreciate you man i'm not going to keep
  1832. 1:02:32you any anytime longer
  1833. 1:02:34thank you for
  1834. 1:02:35for taking time and you know talking to
  1835. 1:02:37me and sharing your your experience and
  1836. 1:02:39then
  1837. 1:02:40uh again um be safe out there man and i
  1838. 1:02:43i um i appreciate everything you do out
  1839. 1:02:47there hustling doing doing something for
  1840. 1:02:49yourself and i always
  1841. 1:02:51you have my full support as an owner if
  1842. 1:02:52there's anything i can help
  1843. 1:02:54i'm here
  1844. 1:02:57well i definitely love the channel
  1845. 1:03:00actually one of your your videos were
  1846. 1:03:02kind of what got me started when i first
  1847. 1:03:04bought this truck i was watching the
  1848. 1:03:05different volvo videos uh that you had i
  1849. 1:03:08know you're a fan of d12s and i had a
  1850. 1:03:10d13 but i'm like it just kind of made me
  1851. 1:03:13appreciate that like you know like no
  1852. 1:03:15it's not a kenworth and no it's not a
  1853. 1:03:17peter belt but they can be a very loved
  1854. 1:03:19truck and they are nice like like i
  1855. 1:03:21won't argue the creature comforts of
  1856. 1:03:23this thing is amazing and the
  1857. 1:03:24drivability is even like that's what's
  1858. 1:03:27hard to get over i've driven many trucks
  1859. 1:03:30and volvos are the easiest truck to
  1860. 1:03:32drive on the highway and the most
  1861. 1:03:33comfortable i i think yeah
  1862. 1:03:37and i do i i i'm not saying
  1863. 1:03:40yeah the seats yeah yeah but i can tell
  1864. 1:03:42you about what i what i did i have a lot
  1865. 1:03:44of the d13s i do have a lot of z13s
  1866. 1:03:47right now i
  1867. 1:03:48i don't have any d12s but again to me
  1868. 1:03:51next to the 12.7 detroit the b12 is one
  1869. 1:03:54of the best engines
  1870. 1:03:57[Music]
  1871. 1:03:58again thank you chris i'm gonna i'm
  1872. 1:04:00gonna let you go appreciate you again
  1873. 1:04:03and uh thank you guys for listening uh
  1874. 1:04:05subscribe share and we'll talk to you
  1875. 1:04:06soon
  1876. 1:04:12[Music]
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