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0:012026, and who better to review this
0:03progress? I invite Miss Aqua Juditth to
0:08the podium to join us. Let's applaud
0:15her as she makes her way to the stage.
0:18Behind her, we have Hzou Chengle. Both
0:24will have the pleasure of summarizing
0:26these 3 years of activity for us. And
0:32after those two, we will hear from two
0:34young people coming, of course, from
0:37the CDJ. They will talk to us, of
0:41course, about initiatives in market
0:43gardening using organic inputs. The
0:46first one comes to us from TG 923. That
0:50is, of course, Bra Kevin. The last one
0:59who will be part of this panel comes to
1:02us from TG 0821. Rodonou Samuel. Thank
1:10you very much. We shall proceed. Excuse
1:14me. Ah, I am told there is one person
1:19left. Who is that? That person. I don't
1:25have the name on my paper. Help me out.
1:31Ah, Mr. Kavo, where is he? Oh, don't
1:37worry about it. And Kemouo, no problem
1:41at all. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you.
1:43We are now complete. Exactly five
1:45people. We need to move on. We begin
1:49with the review of these 3 intense
1:51years of activity at Compassion
1:53International Togo, regarding, of
1:55course, the strategy for environmental
1:57management and protection of creation.
2:01We start with Miss Aqua Judit Bako.
2:08>> Thank you, Mr. Moderator. Hello dear
2:12participants, dear organizers. Thank
2:16you very much for your presence and
2:19sacrifice, and I hope it will not be in
2:22vain. Everyone will leave here a winner
2:25, or at least satisfied. We are here to
2:30present the results of the activities
2:34that Compassion International Togo has
2:37implemented following the environmental
2:44management and protection of creation
2:47strategy. It has been since 2023 to
2:53this day, so you will get to see the
2:57activities that Compassion has
3:00conducted to enable children and youth
3:04to thrive in their environment and
3:08ensure their future. So, the activities
3:14we carried out included environmental
3:18education, where we trained the partner
3:22churches of Compassion International
3:26Togo, targeting children, youth,
3:29parents, project facilitators,
3:32volunteers, and others. And during that
3:38training, we spoke about the concept of
3:42the environment and of creation. We
3:48were able to identify the immediate
3:51environment in which each person is
3:54located and how we can take care of it,
3:57as well as creation. These are
4:02theoretical training sessions where we
4:04exchange ideas. We also spoke about
4:09sparking environmental curiosity in the
4:13youth and the child to lead children
4:16and young people from an early age to
4:20adopt good habits regarding how they
4:23will protect the environment. And there
4:30, during interactive sessions where
4:34everyone participates, we lead them to
4:38identify for themselves the
4:41environmental problems they see in
4:44their area, and together we find
4:47solutions and commit to taking positive
4:51actions in our communities. And when we
4:57integrate these good habits into our
5:00daily lives, we will see that over the
5:03years, we will be used to doing things
5:06without even being told. So what is
5:10important to remember is that, whether
5:13we like it or not, we have already
5:16destroyed what God created. Now, it is
5:20up to us to try to restore it because
5:23God has charged us with taking care of
5:27His garden. So when we destroy, we fix.
5:32Or, these are actions where we try to
5:36change and everyone brings their own
5:39ideas. And to this day, we have been
5:42able to train more than 1,339 people.
5:49And in addition to environmental issues
5:52, we have also conducted training on
5:55waste management, starting with how to
5:58sort waste at the source in their
6:01households. We taught them how to
6:06categorize that waste and what each
6:10type of waste is intended for. So you
6:15will see that the waste we have around
6:19us also constitutes a resource. And if
6:24we don't manage it well, it will create
6:28diseases and our health will not be
6:32guaranteed. And so, with these
6:35exercises, they learn how they are
6:38going to sort this waste at home. We
6:43have also organized cleanup sessions
6:46where, together, in the areas we visit,
6:50when we see places that are dirty, we
6:53try to fix them to set a good example,
6:57always regarding waste. We learned that
7:03there is a type of waste that can be
7:07recycled, so with tires, containers,
7:10and worn-out bags that clutter our
7:14homes, we train them on how to
7:17cultivate in those objects. And if you
7:22grow what you eat yourself, you’re
7:24secure, right? And you will see that
7:29even if you don't have land, you can
7:31still cultivate. Even if it's on a roof
7:35slab, you saw the project that just
7:38finished, they cultivated on the slab
7:41and today they have good yields. So
7:45they learn how to handle it, and the
7:48technicians are also there. Who helped
7:53us, and together we try to learn good
7:57methods to get by, and that is a bit of
8:00the activities we have done regarding
8:04waste, and to this day we have already
8:08trained more than 573 people. So my
8:14colleague David will continue by
8:17explaining to you the other activities
8:20that we have been able to carry out as
8:24part of the implementation of this
8:26environmental management and creation
8:30protection strategy. Thank you very
8:33much.
8:35>> Let’s applaud. She was able to
8:38summarize part of it. We are going to
8:39listen to David for the rest.
8:42>> OK. Thank you very much Judith, thank
8:45you very much dear moderators, and
8:47without protocol, I will just get to
8:49the point to save time. And regarding
8:54Compassion's initiatives in
8:56environmental management, there is
8:58another initiative focused on
9:00reforestation, that is to say, the
9:03restoration of degraded forest
9:05landscapes. Compassion supports these
9:11partner churches in this initiative
9:14through awareness campaigns and
9:17technical support so that these partner
9:21churches can truly engage in
9:23reforestation actions. And in this
9:29mission, Compassion is also supported
9:32by the NGO Grain de Vie, which provides
9:35us with seedlings for reforestation,
9:37and also by the town halls, which
9:40sometimes help us in negotiating spaces
9:43and sometimes in providing seedlings.
9:47There is also the Department of the
9:50Environment and the prefectural
9:53environmental offices that also support
9:56us in these activities, and well, given
9:59the time, I will try to do a little
10:02simulation to show us the impact that
10:06these actions have had on environmental
10:09management. And if we talk about
10:12reforestation activities in a global
10:14way, we will not be able to understand
10:17the impact. But over these 3 years, the
10:21partner churches have been able to
10:25plant more than approximately 40,000
10:28seedlings, and today the survival rate
10:32of these seedlings is around 70%. Can't
10:38we celebrate that? We can celebrate
10:42loudly. And I take this opportunity to
10:46really salute the commitment of the
10:48partner churches, who are truly
10:51implementing this strategy for the
10:53preservation of the environment. Well,
10:57there isn't much time, but moderator,
10:59allow me to have the audience applaud
11:02themselves because they are the ones
11:05who committed. so that we could reach
11:08this point. Let’s applaud for
11:10yourselves. Let’s applaud for
11:11yourselves. So, if we give these
11:15figures, perhaps we cannot understand
11:17the impact we have on the environment.
11:21And we tried to do a little simulation
11:26to see the impact that this
11:29reforestation action can have, and with
11:34the 70%survival rate we have, that is
11:3928,000 seedlings currently standing and
11:43growing normally. And we ran the
11:49simulation, which allowed us to
11:51evaluate the potential for carbon
11:54sequestration, because when we plant
11:57trees, it is generally to reduce CO2 in
12:00nature. Well, there are also other
12:04services that this provides us, but the
12:07direct goal is to reduce CO2 in nature.
12:13And when we ran these simulations, we
12:16saw that, over these 3 years, the young
12:19saplings we planted currently have some
12:22that are at least 2 meters tall, or 1
12:25to 2 meters. Currently, there are some
12:30saplings like that, and if we take
12:32their diameter, that is to say their
12:35circumference, it's around, uh, 20 to
12:3725 cm at least. And we have based
12:41ourselves on those parameters. And the
12:45number of saplings planted, we
12:47evaluated that in terms of surface area
12:50and it gives us about 16,000 hectares.
12:54We cannot celebrate those 16,000
12:58hectares just like that. Someone might
13:01say, but you planted 16,000 hectares,
13:03where is it? And each project developed
13:07a strategy that I appreciated. There
13:10are some projects that don't have space
13:13to plant, but they adopted this "one
13:15youth, one sapling" project. So the
13:19child comes to get the sapling, goes
13:21home, plants it, and takes care of it.
13:25So that means when you go into the
13:27field, well, in certain projects, you
13:29can find grouped areas that have been
13:31planted and reforestation that is done
13:33in well-defined spaces. For example,
13:38the ATor 200-122 project, it's grouped
13:40there, but elsewhere it is scattered,
13:42yet the saplings are growing normally.
13:46So, on that basis, we ran the
13:48simulation, and what does the
13:50simulation give us? So, over these 3
13:54years, the young saplings we have can
13:58absorb 180 to 190 tons of CO2. Haven't
14:03we contributed? And we went even
14:08further to make a 5-year projection, to
14:11see in 5 years if these saplings evolve
14:14normally, what results we can expect.
14:18And when we projected this data,
14:20initially, there were three scenarios.
14:25And the first scenario consists of, if
14:28the young saplings currently surviving
14:30are poorly maintained—that is to say,
14:33well, there is no maintenance—within
14:365 years, we could have, uh a carbon
14:44sequestration of 567 tons. CO2. And
14:50secondly, meaning for the second
14:53scenario, if maintenance is performed
14:57but only to a low degree, well, it's
15:00done, but not to that extent, we can
15:03reach around 975 tons of CO2. And now,
15:11if these 28,000 seedlings currently in
15:15the ground develop at a normal rate, in
15:195 years, we will have 1,526 tons of CO2
15:22reduced, absorbed into nature. You see
15:28the impact. Well, we just did this
15:30simulation to show us the impact that
15:33our actions can have in terms of
15:35environmental preservation. Perhaps
15:38someone says, well, I planted a
15:39seedling, but you don't know, you
15:40haven't realized what that can produce.
15:44You see, there is another initiative
15:46that Compassion supports for its
15:48partner churches. It involves the
15:51manufacturing of improved cookstoves.
15:55So, Compassion supports its partner
15:58churches through training, and
16:00initially, we teach the projects how to
16:03build these improved cookstoves using
16:06local materials, because after the
16:09training, we don't want a project to
16:12say they don't have enough material to
16:15be able to make these stoves. So, in
16:20total, 267 people have been trained in
16:24the manufacturing and adoption of these
16:27improved cookstoves. They will allow us
16:31to reduce the pressure on forest
16:33resources. They will also allow us to
16:38save on the expenses we incur regarding
16:41the purchase of firewood. So you will
16:45see, and those who have already started
16:47using these stoves will notice that the
16:49amount of wood you use has decreased.
16:52As your quantity decreases, you make
16:56savings. So it also allows our mothers
16:59who are cooking to protect themselves
17:02from fumes that are very dangerous. In
17:062019, the WHO produced a report on the
17:09damage caused by this smoke, and the
17:13report shows that 639,000 there are
17:19639,000 deaths linked to fumes that are
17:25caused by cooking. So 47%of them are
17:28women. This means that our mothers who
17:32cook our food are exposed. So by using
17:36these improved cookstoves, their health
17:39is preserved. Finally, we also support
17:44our partner churches in the production
17:48of bio-inputs and in the production of
17:52organic inputs. Actually, we are not in
17:57this agronomy dynamic, but like sister
18:00Judith, the objects to make their
18:09above-ground gardens. Now, when you use
18:13this waste to make these above-ground
18:15gardens, you will have to maintain
18:18those gardens to have a yield. So, when
18:23we teach them how to do it, how to use
18:26recycled waste for gardens, we teach
18:29them how to prepare organic pesticides
18:33and fertilizers. So we have produced
18:38several types of fertilizers over time.
18:42I won't go into detail, but what we
18:44must remember regarding this support is
18:46that we have assisted 3,547 people.
18:53Currently, I believe many projects have
18:56already implemented these actions, and
19:00other projects also want to follow suit
19:03. Thank you.
19:06>> Let's give a round of applause to both
19:09Aqua and David Tangl for this report.
19:12Keep the microphone. I really wanted to
19:14ask a question. You have presented the
19:16results of 3 years of activity. What is
19:19the projection for the future? What are
19:22you planning to do? Is it just about
19:24planting, or are there other things to
19:26follow? Uh, we want to understand
19:29better.
19:29>> OK. Thank you very much, dear moderator
19:32, for the question. Regarding our
19:35vision, well, there are several
19:38initiatives in the strategy
19:40>> uh
19:42>> and currently we are looking and we are
19:45also thinking about whether there is
19:48that possibility, and in the coming
19:50years we will start supporting partner
19:53churches in producing ecological
19:56charcoal. And the second prospect: this
20:01year, we noticed that the projects had
20:04the commitment and the desire to
20:06reforest, but we lacked young saplings,
20:09and at the time of reforestation, we
20:12said to ourselves. we are going to
20:16think about whether this possibility
20:19exists, if only at the cluster level,
20:21to see if we can have a nursery site so
20:24that when the time for reforestation
20:26comes, those projects can be properly
20:29supplied. I can say these are the main
20:32outlines for our prospects.
20:34>> Thank you very much for those
20:35clarifications. We will come back to
20:38that later. It's true that when a
20:41report is presented, there isn't really
20:42a need to ask questions about it. We
20:44will still take a few small points
20:47given the time. Time for me to hand the
20:50floor to our friend Prudencio from Mav,
20:53who will try to talk to us about the
20:55activities carried out to date on the
20:58site and the opportunities that young
21:00people can have. Turn on the microphone
21:05. Uh, pass him the microphone. There we
21:10go.
21:11>> Thank you very much. Uh, I would first
21:13like to thank the Lord for His grace
21:16and favor that He continues to pour out
21:19upon each of us. Uh, so this morning,
21:23we are quickly going to help you
21:29discover what NPC is, what we do, and
21:35what the opportunities are for our
21:38young people in our different CJs. So,
21:46first of all, I think it's also
21:48displayed, the future vision of NAPC.
21:52We have already begun by setting up the
21:55infrastructure. We are still continuing
21:58, but I would like to give you a global
22:00idea or a global view of what is
22:02planned and what we are going to do. So
22:07, already in place, we have training
22:10rooms, group dormitories, a kitchen,
22:12and a hangar, but individual
22:15dormitories are coming, and we invite
22:17you to visit the site to discover these
22:20facilities more. The NAPC project is
22:25actually a project of the Neemia
22:27association, which means our partner
22:30churches, such as yourselves. And that
22:33is why we never cease to say it,
22:35regarding the youth, so that we can
22:38work together to mentor them. In any
22:41case, those who are already in the
22:43field. So here, we are currently
22:47looking at 10 hectares. PC Neemia
22:51Agroecology, currently on 10 hectares.
22:54And it is a center that is not just an
23:00agroecological farm; it is a center
23:03where we learn, a center for training,
23:06experimentation, and demonstration of
23:09everything related to sustainable
23:12agricultural systems. And so we are, I
23:21would like to move a bit faster because
23:23of the time, so please allow me;
23:25perhaps we can return to the details
23:28during the Q&A. I would like to quickly
23:32present some activities currently
23:35taking place at the NAPC site. First of
23:39all, in terms of agroecological crop
23:42production, NAPC is involved in
23:44sustainable agroecological market
23:47gardening. I would like to take this
23:52opportunity—since we are looking for
23:55stable markets for our production of
23:58nightshade, African eggplant, cucumbers
24:01, and other market garden produce. So,
24:06if you have a stable market for us. We
24:08are interested. That's just a side note
24:11. As you can also observe, we are still
24:14focusing on crop production and
24:17learning. There are witnesses here. We
24:21have what I call a target group of
24:27trainers that we always send out into
24:29our various communities and partner
24:31churches. So they come to, shall I say,
24:35stock up at NAPC. And recently,
24:38concerning everything related to
24:40permagardens and how you can set up
24:42your own sustainable gardens, we teach
24:45them that there. And regarding the
24:49multiplication of peasant seeds today,
24:52that is also the challenge we are
24:55facing. It is not just in Togo, but
24:59everywhere, this seed issue, and so we
25:02are trying, at our level, to provide
25:04some kind of solution. We have already
25:09launched this training in the meantime,
25:11and I think it is still continuing at
25:13that level as well. We have also
25:16currently planted more than 600 to 700
25:20plantain banana trees, which are
25:24growing well right now. I would now
25:30like to move on to animal production as
25:33well. These are just a few photos we
25:36are showing as proof. Here at NAPC, we
25:40are currently trying to develop about 7
25:43to 8 livestock units. First of all, we
25:46are starting with poultry. As you can
25:50see, we have local chickens, and we
25:53also raise ducks in an agroecological
25:57way. We also have small ruminants.
26:01Regarding the livestock, we are
26:03currently trying to look ahead, well,
26:07for the coming years, because there is
26:09a breed we want to develop at the NAPC
26:12site. I don't know if you are familiar
26:15with the Red Sokoto breed, so we are
26:16going to try to move forward with that
26:18to see how it goes. And very soon, the
26:22youth or those interested will be able
26:24to come to the site and, of course,
26:27stock up. We also have pig farming,
26:31turkeys, guinea fowl, as well as rabbit
26:36farming, which we are also teaching
26:41on-site. And we are currently almost
26:46finished with fish farming, naturally,
26:49which we are already setting up. That
26:54is just a summary regarding the
26:56livestock aspect. Quickly, NAPC is also
27:01involved in reforestation and
27:03agroforestry, so we are also present in
27:06everything related to biodiversity. The
27:09objective is to contribute to the
27:11restoration of ecosystems and climate
27:14resilience. That is important. As of
27:16today, at the NAPC site, you can find
27:19more than 2,000 to 2,500 plants that we
27:21have already put in place. And these
27:25are not just fruit trees, but also
27:27non-fruit trees, fertilizing trees,
27:29ground cover plants, and so on. So
27:33there are these different types of
27:36trees that we have planted on the site.
27:38And here, I would still like to take a
27:41moment to acknowledge those partner
27:43churches, those who never cease to
27:45support us, of course. I cannot name
27:49them all, but here you can already see
27:52on the steps the TG518, and I even have
27:55a tree on the site that I named TG 518
27:58for the friend Annie who also visited
28:01us in the meantime. Your planted banana
28:05tree, we will welcome it soon if it is
28:07ready next year, and I will eat it
28:10first and then we will see about, or
28:12rather, well, we really appreciate this
28:15kind of initiative. And so, do not
28:18hesitate to organize yourselves and
28:20spend some time with us on site. We
28:23have dormitories for you. We tried our
28:28best, and even if it isn't all that
28:30comfortable, you won't regret it,
28:32obviously. So, I would still like to
28:39speak about this, of course, because
28:41it's a subject that interests me a lot,
28:43regarding organic waste management and
28:45the circular economy. Now here, my
28:49colleagues have already spoken about
28:52many things in this regard, but I will
28:55just dwell on two things currently at
28:58NAPC. Regarding everything related to
29:03composting, biochar, biochar production
29:06, bokashi, and well, bio-fertilizers,
29:10both liquid and solid. Apart from that,
29:15as of today, NAPC has raised the bar a
29:18bit by building what we call the
29:21biodigester. So, I didn't have enough
29:26space or time to insert many more
29:28images to see a bit how we proceeded
29:31until finishing the construction. But
29:35you still have a few images there, the
29:37first ones at the beginning. And so we
29:41have the place where we load the waste,
29:44and we also have what we call the dome,
29:48and on the other side, where we receive
29:51or collect the digestate. So, the
29:56biodigester today is becoming a
29:59solution for waste management and
30:03recovery. And in the framework of
30:08agroecology, the biodigester goes far
30:11beyond what we might call simple waste
30:15management. The biodigester far exceeds
30:20that and is now positioned as a central
30:23element of agricultural production.
30:26What do I mean by that? In reality, on
30:28the farm, nothing goes to waste.
30:31Organic waste goes into the biodigester
30:35, and the biodigester, in turn,
30:38produces or gives us energy, meaning
30:41biogas for cooking and organic
30:43amendment for our crops, thus helping
30:47in soil restoration, of course. And so
30:52that is what is really interesting
30:54about the biodigester, which I like a
30:56lot, and so it creates what we call a
30:58circular economy, quite simply, and you
31:01no longer spend, because the field
31:03feeds the biodigester, and the
31:04biodigester feeds the field. That's it,
31:08in a nutshell. Then quickly as well, we
31:10also have biophilic pits on the site
31:12today that we have set up, obviously.
31:15Now, for ethical reasons, and we are
31:17still in discussion with the partner
31:19for ethical reasons. Obviously, we
31:22closed them for a while, but I think we
31:25are reflecting on how to be able to use
31:28these effluents at that level too for
31:31the biophilic pits. And so you can
31:35still see our products here as well. I
31:39will still
31:40>> You have already had your time. We are
31:43granting you a minute to
31:44>> Thank you very much. I will finish in
31:46one, there you go. Thank you very much.
31:49So here, I would obviously like not to
31:52glorify myself, but to give glory to
31:54God for the previous panel because
31:57these young people came through our
31:59doors at NAPC, they learned these
32:01things, and today, when we see them
32:04talking about these products like this,
32:06it encourages us. And I would still
32:10like to thank those centers, obviously.
32:13Who never cease to encourage us in this
32:15direction. And it reassures us at NAPC
32:18that what we are doing is concrete.
32:20What we are doing is not just theory.
32:23Thank you very much. To finish quickly,
32:27this is also the heart of NAPC in
32:29training: demonstration,
32:31experimentation, and empowerment of
32:33young people. So, as of today, these
32:36are the opportunities that our young
32:38people can seize. First of all, for us,
32:42it is about transmitting practical
32:43skills to develop sustainable
32:45agriculture. And as of today,
32:48approximately 39,889 people or
32:52participants have already been trained
32:54at the NAPC level. And we continue with
32:57the Somacam, the agroecology summer
32:58camps, and I invite you to send us your
33:00young people during the holidays. We
33:02just received two interns from 910, I
33:05think, and I have 910, and it was
33:07extraordinary, and we also encourage
33:10you to send your young people, and
33:12together we will help them. Thank you
33:15very much. Thank you to you, Mr.
33:16Prudence, sorry, but let's applaud him
33:19anyway; it's not easy for you either.
33:22Are you based in Zafi? Zafi, we must
33:25specify for those who don't know the
33:27place, where is Zafi concretely located
33:30? In Togo. So Zafi is about 72 km from
33:35Lomé. Yes.
33:37>> And so it is in the prefecture of Yoto,
33:39Yoto 2 commune. So you arrive at the
33:42Adé crossroads, you go left.
33:45>> Perfect.
33:45>> 6 km from Zafi, you will find us.
33:47>> Thank you very much.
33:48>> Thank you very much.
33:49>> We will come back to you for the
33:50question round in just a moment. We are
33:53going to hear from another young person
33:55. He comes to us from center 923. His
33:59name is Bra Kevin. They are going to
34:02talk to us, of course, about market
34:05gardening. Is that right? And help him
34:09out with that. It's good. The
34:13microphone is not working. Take the
34:15second one.
34:18>> Okay. Thank you for the opportunity. Hm
34:20.
34:21>> I am Bra Kevin, a participant of TG
34:250923 in Badja, in the AV cluster. And
34:32for environmental protection, we have
34:35opted for ecological production. And
34:40for ecological production, we have an
34:43ecological garden in our center that we
34:46, the participants, cultivate ourselves
34:49, growing okra, eggplant, and green
34:52chili naturally. And we also produce
34:57our own organic fertilizers,
34:59bioprotectants, and liquid fertilizers
35:03ourselves, which we use in the garden.
35:08And in the garden here, you can see the
35:11young people working and preparing beds
35:14to be able to transplant the seeds. To
35:22continue, what pushed us to opt for
35:26this agricultural method is that today,
35:29particularly in agriculture in general,
35:33we see the use of chemical inputs that
35:36seriously harm our health and precisely
35:40the health of the earth. We see that
35:44our soils are no longer nutritious. The
35:49soils are degraded, production doesn't
35:53work well, and afterward, we have a
35:56poor harvest. For that reason, we have
36:00opted for ecological agriculture to
36:03bring the soil back to life and at the
36:06same time allow us to be in good health
36:08. Because in the past, we didn't have
36:13certain diseases, but today, thanks to
36:16the use of chemical inputs, we see the
36:19reappearance of diseases that weren't
36:22there before, and that is a bit the
36:27objective for which we opted for this
36:31agricultural method. And so, I strongly
36:35advise you to opt for ecological
36:38agriculture because it is what allows
36:41us to protect our environment and fully
36:44ensure our future on Earth. Thank you.
36:48>> Keep the microphone. You said your
36:51center is located in Badja.
36:54>> Where exactly in Badja? When leaving
36:56Lomé, heading there, which way is it?
36:57>> Yes. In the Avé prefecture.
37:00>> Yeah, I don't know that one. Where
37:02precisely? When someone comes, for
37:04example, to buy your products, at what
37:06point can we easily find you?
37:09>> In Badja, at EPT Badja, near the church
37:11.
37:11>> Okay, I hope people know that place. We
37:15will pass the microphone to your
37:18colleague Samuel, who will also try to
37:20tell us about the field and what is
37:23being done concretely at their level,
37:26at TG 821. I would like to first thank
37:32the moderator for giving me the floor,
37:35and good evening to the ladies and
37:36gentlemen, dear participants, and dear
37:39panelists. It is an honor for me to
37:44participate in this session to present
37:47what we do at CDEG 821 BEL Gudraf. With
37:52us at the CDEJ Methodist of Agudraf,
38:00organic market gardening, and this
38:02project began with the training of our
38:05coordinator at the NPC site. After this
38:11training, he had to share the knowledge
38:13he gained with more than 15 young
38:15people at the CDE, and that is how,
38:18with the agreement of the partner
38:20church, we were able to find a plot of
38:23land and began our organic market
38:25gardening adventure. As you can see
38:30here, we are at the stage of clearing
38:33the land that we managed to acquire
38:36with our 15 young people. Next, we
38:41traced furrows on this sandy soil,
38:43which was full of coconut trees.
38:47Afterward, we leveled the ground and
38:50began the nursery phase and irrigation
38:53using perforated cans. Then, after
38:59transplanting the seedlings, here is
39:01how our plants looked, and we were able
39:04to see normal plant growth. On these
39:10plots, we mainly grow onions, jute
39:13leaves (codor), cucumbers, amaranth,
39:17chili peppers, Gboma eggplant, mint,
39:20and several vegetables that we use
39:23daily. To better preserve the
39:30environment and keep it healthy, we use
39:33100%organic inputs, Bokashi, biochar,
39:36biopesticides, as well as ash broth.
39:43our crops. During this season, we are
39:46growing amaranth and mint, as well as
39:51sweet potato leaves and jute leaves.
39:57During our farming journey, we have
40:00encountered several difficulties. The
40:06first difficulty we had starting last
40:09season was the production of onions,
40:12which were in abundance on the market,
40:15causing prices and purchasing power to
40:19drop considerably. We also had
40:22difficulties with the production of
40:25amaranth leaves. We all know here that
40:29because of residues found in the
40:31amaranth leaves that our project
40:33exports to the European Union, Togo
40:36stopped the production of amaranth
40:38leaves, which caused our revenue to
40:40fall significantly. I thank you for
40:46this panel, and I would like to take
40:49this opportunity to specify that anyone
40:52who needs jute leaves or other produce
40:55should contact our CDE located in
40:58Agudraf in the Lacs Prefecture to
41:00obtain and find them. Thank you. The
41:03only thing left is the contact, how to
41:05reach you?
41:06>> Contact our coordinator here present,
41:07or take the opportunity to give the
41:09number at the same time, it is better.
41:11>> number
41:12>> Yes, take a look, I'll let you take a
41:14look at your phone to get the contact
41:17because we'll need it, especially since
41:20we'll be passing by Ara For beach on
41:22weekends and other times with the kids
41:25at Caroma, that's good.
41:28>> Go ahead, give the number.
41:30>> The number is 92 12 12 10 83.
41:36>> Perfect.
41:38>> 92 12 10 83. I also want to clarify
41:41that last season we generated a
41:43turnover of 329,000 francs, and the
41:47remaining products were used for our
41:50own consumption at the CDEJ. Thank you.
41:54>> Thank you very much. Let's give them a
41:55round of applause. You have heard them
41:58all, our friends from the Compassion
42:00Box, who have outlined the results of
42:03three years of activity, of course
42:05regarding the strategy of environmental
42:07management and protection of creation.
42:12You heard them all, Aqua and his
42:14colleague David, and then Mr. Prudenio
42:17Kemavo, who reflected on the activities
42:20happening at their level, at the Zafi
42:23level. There we go. UNC and then our
42:27two young ones. We will take a series
42:30of five questions. And then it's
42:34finished. We'll restart in 10 or 15
42:37minutes at most; we will have finished
42:39this panel. Starting here. Ladies,
42:45hostesses, help us with the microphones
42:48, the technical team. That's good. The
42:54first question. The first question over
42:58here. Yes, there is a hand in the front
43:01. Give your name, place of origin, and
43:04the question follows. We can go ahead.
43:11Thank you very much. I am Pastor De
43:14Guer. Pastor De Guer. Yes, we are here
43:24talking about the environment, the
43:26management of the environment, of
43:28course, and we are told that humans are
43:30destroying the environment. But you are
43:35environmentalists, I believe. The
43:38environment is everything that
43:40surrounds us, including ourselves. We
43:44want to move from awareness to action.
43:47Earlier, you spoke about the plants
43:51that are already planted here and there
43:54in the centers, and you also
43:57sequestered the amount of carbon gas,
44:00quantified in tons. I don't know what
44:04procedure you went through to quantify
44:07these gases recorded in tons. Ah. Your
47:32question. We will do a bit more because
47:35...
47:36>> Hello? Hello? Earlier, he gave us...We
47:52were given the number of plants planted
47:55here and there at the centers, and they
47:57sequestered the amount of carbon that
48:00these plants have absorbed. What method
48:05, what procedure did they adopt to be
48:07able to give us those figures?
48:10>> That is the question.
48:11>> Expressed in tons. Well, the other
48:13question.
48:13>> No, one question per person. We don't
48:15ask two questions. One question per
48:18person. The procedure for capturing.
48:25Yes, the second question over here.
48:32We'll go here. There we go.
48:36>> OK, thanks. Uh, well, it's Pierro, I'm
48:41a facilitator at CL Moon TG 270. I
48:47would like to address my question to
48:50Mr. Samuel to know, after your
48:52production, besides the difficulty of
48:55mass production in the area, do you
48:58manage to sell your market garden
49:04produce at an exceptional price or is
49:07it the same price as in the locality?
49:12Thank you.
49:13>> Thank you to you. Another question,
49:18moving on. Yes.
49:22>> Yes. Thanks once again for the floor. I
49:26am also Damé TG901 in Ado Gomé.
49:31>> OK. Uh, Mr. Director of the center uh
49:39invites us to have our children spend
49:44time at the center. I would like to
49:49know if it is a paid service, the
49:55conditions, and if it is paid, how much
49:58is it, how long can they stay, and how
50:01much would we have to spend to send our
50:04children there to share in those
50:06experiences? Thank you very much.
50:09>> Thank you to you. Also the 4th question
50:12. Yes. Yes, it's G Simon Pierre. Uh I
50:31saw that there are many initiatives and
50:33that is very good, but I noticed that
50:35there are some things to correct in
50:38vegetable and agroecological production
50:43since I saw that the farming encourages
50:46erosion. Flower beds are made
50:50vertically while there are slopes. That
50:55is dangerous because it will wash away
50:58the inputs and the humus with the water
51:00. So what should be done is that the
51:05beds should be horizontal, and then
51:07after a certain number of beds, there
51:10should be an anti-erosive unit
51:13supported by some appropriate plants.
51:17Even if I am not an agronomist, I have
51:20learned general, special, and
51:22industrial agriculture. Thank you.
51:25>> Thank you for that. Let's give him a
51:27round of applause. The elder's
51:30perspective on agriculture to avoid
51:33erosion. One last intervention, and
51:36then we'll conclude. Yes. Hello? Yes,
51:40go ahead. And thank you very much for
51:44the presentation and. My question will
51:46take the form of an advocacy, because
51:49since the beginning of this conference,
51:53I would have liked to also hear and
51:55start a discussion on transhumance.
51:59Because it must be said that,
52:01especially in the interior of the
52:04country, it is such a fundamental issue
52:06in the field of agriculture and many
52:09parents are confronted with this,
52:11meaning that today, it's not just the
52:14growers who destroy the soil but also
52:17the cattle, and that forces parents to
52:20use chemical products to soften the
52:22soil before working it. So perhaps next
52:26time we can find someone on this issue
52:28to discuss it. Thank you very much. Uh,
52:31would you mind reminding us of your
52:33name and where you are from?
52:35>> Yes, my name is Baka Sohana. I am from
52:38the Sotouois LC.
52:39>> Sotouois. Yes.
52:41>> Ah yes, you are right. I understand you
52:43perfectly on that question. Uh, your
52:46request, I believe it is well recorded
52:49by the Compassion International Togo
52:51staff. Very soon, we will dispatch or
52:54find someone to intervene on this
52:56specific point. The capture procedure,
53:01David and his colleague, how do you
53:05manage?
53:07>> Thank you very much, Pastor, for the
53:11question. First, we must understand
53:16it's a simulation; meaning, we can
53:19project the data to see the efforts
53:23we've made and the potential outcome.
53:29And I don't know, today with the
53:32development of technology, there are
53:35plenty of tools to calculate carbon
53:38sequestration. And I don't know if
53:44anyone has ever heard of the FAO's
53:47Ex-Ante approach for calculating CO2.
53:56There you go, it's a tool that can also
53:59allow us here and now to calculate; you
54:02just need to have the data. When you
54:08have the data, you put the data into
54:11the tool, and the tool gives you the
54:14results. For example, before starting,
54:18I gave some details. Perhaps you didn't
54:21follow me. I gave the height, one piece
54:26of data. I also gave the circumference,
54:30the diameter of the young saplings.
54:34Since we don't have certainty, we just
54:37estimated. I said that on certain sites
54:42, you will find some plants, and I took
54:44an average of at least 1 meter in
54:47height. But when you go to some sites,
54:51you will notice that there are plants
54:54that exceed that in circumference too,
54:57and I gave at least 20 to 25. But when
55:02you go to some sites, there are plants
55:05that have become big trees, but we are
55:08sticking to the average just to bring
55:11out...to show you the effort we are
55:14making and what it is yielding, because
55:17during our support, when we start
55:19sensitizing people about these kinds of
55:22issues, everyone says, "No, the
55:25challenges we face today, it's the
55:28State that must come and fix all that."
55:32I...we did this just to show that
55:35whatever the size of the action we take
55:39, it has an impact. So, our part truly
55:43contributes, and our part is very
55:46important in the change. Maybe it's not
55:49visible. If someone tells you here that
55:52we've planted 40,000 trees, well, you
55:54might not understand the impact, but if
55:57we tell you roughly the amount that
56:00plants can absorb—because we are all
56:03fighting to reduce those gases in
56:05nature. That's good.
56:07>> Thank you very much.
56:08>> So with the EX-ACT tool, you can search
56:11, and even if you have FAO agents, they
56:13master that tool well. There are other
56:17tools as well. You just need to be
56:20given the tool, be told the parameters
56:21to enter into the tool, and you input
56:23the parameters if you have the data; it
56:25will output the results for you. Thank
56:27you.
56:28>> On the way out, he will come to you to
56:31get the necessary details to move
56:33forward.
56:35>> The conditions for visiting your center
56:39, our friend Prudencio, how does it
56:44work? Is it free, can we come to eat,
56:47sleep, or get trained there for free?
56:49How does it work?
56:51>> Okay, thank you very much. That's one
56:52of the questions I like a lot. Uh, well
56:55, I will answer this question on two
56:58levels. Uh, we are currently in the
57:02process of setting up what we call à
57:05la carte training, and we will launch
57:08that very soon. But for now, uh, I
57:12think TG58 can testify; they came to
57:15spend a whole day with us with their
57:17youth and parents. There you go, the
57:20leaders, they didn't pay anything. Now,
57:22as I said, these are infrastructures we
57:25are putting in place. We won't rent
57:27them to you, because these are partner
57:28churches. Obviously, if it's external,
57:31there, we can, well, we know what we
57:33need to do. Now, we are inside, you are
57:36here with us. Do you really want to
57:39contribute more? We are open to it, but
57:42beyond that, we will just discuss it,
57:44and I will also notify the hierarchy;
57:46we make the decisions that are, well,
57:49useful, and it's done. Thank you very
57:52much.
57:53>> You spoke diplomatically, which means
57:55it's not entirely free. It's not too
57:58expensive either. We need to
57:59distinguish between the two. I'll pass
58:03the microphone to our friend Samuel. We
58:06want to know, when you produce, how
58:08does the sale of your products work? Is
58:10it too expensive on the other side,
58:12cheaper, or how is the stock managed as
58:14a whole? And when there is leftovers,
58:16what is it used for? I thank the person
58:19who asked this question. OK, we are all
58:23aware here that when you want to
58:26produce organic goods, the expenses you
58:30incur are higher than when producing
58:33with chemicals. But we decided that if
58:37we produce organic stuff, we would
58:39match the prices of those who produce
58:41with chemicals. And we managed to get
58:46buyers who come directly to our garden
58:49to take our produce. We don't go to the
58:53market to sell them; people come to our
58:55garden to pick them up immediately
58:58because they know what organic is and
59:00they resell it for more on the market.
59:03We sell at the same price as producers
59:06of market garden produce using chemical
59:09inputs, and we sell them at the same
59:11price as them. So that is how the
59:14commercialization of our products
59:16happens. Hm.
59:19>> Our friend would like to do business
59:20with you very, very soon. That's why
59:22he's asking the question.
59:23>> And we are ready for business.
59:25>> OK. So. Our friend Prudence wants to
59:31say a word.
59:32>> Yes, please, thank you very much
59:34regarding the question that Pierre
59:36asked. It's a very good question as
59:38well, and it is truly a difficulty we
59:40face today. We can't deny it, where you
59:43produce, uh, in an agroecological way,
59:45I should say, because organic is
59:47something else entirely. Now, beyond
59:49that, you find yourself in the same
59:51market as those who also use NPK, urea,
59:54and everything we know. So today, I
59:56think you need to go get the
59:58information, and NPC is also looking to
1:00:00do something soon. You will also be
1:00:03provided with that information, where
1:00:06we are setting up a market, or rather,
1:00:08markets. So there is also the BIOSPG
1:00:11which is already there at the
1:00:12government level. We participated in
1:00:16that framework, so for BIOSPG, you can
1:00:19Google it or look it up a bit, where
1:00:22these actors will gather to create
1:00:24their own market. And so, people who
1:00:28are in the same area, the same group
1:00:31who are into this type of production,
1:00:33create a market. So we say every
1:00:36Wednesday from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m., we
1:00:39will hold this market, and you have
1:00:41documentation on that. All the
1:00:43customers who come are reassured that
1:00:45these are the agroecological products
1:00:47they will find there. And very soon at
1:00:50RPC, we have also already begun the
1:00:52necessary steps. We have the necessary
1:00:55paperwork at our level to be able to
1:00:57start that market, and very, very soon
1:00:59we will invite you to come and get
1:01:00supplies. Thank you very much.
1:01:02>> And so I think we need to reach out to
1:01:04these people
1:01:05>> initiative.
1:01:06>> There we go.
1:01:07>> Perfect. Thank you. Especially since we
1:01:09are in the month of consuming local
1:01:10products. We still have 3 or 4 days
1:01:13left to finish this month. It's now or
1:01:17never to help these young people with
1:01:19these types of initiatives, to go
1:01:22toward our friends in Agudrafo, Oufi,
1:01:24and our friend in Badja. Especially on
1:01:28weekends when we go to Kpalimé, we
1:01:30always make a stop in Badja, whether
1:01:32it's at Badja or at what do you call
1:01:34the place where they sell peanuts, I
1:01:36forgot, uh, Tgan. There we go. And
1:01:40those areas and help them develop as a
1:01:42whole. Maybe one or two questions to
1:01:44wrap up, or is that enough? Oh no, but
1:01:47friends, come on. What do you want to
1:01:51say? Okay, pass them the microphone.
1:01:54The microphone, the microphone. There
1:01:56are two hands in the front. Yes,
1:02:00introduce yourself, the location, and
1:02:02the question.
1:02:04>> It's Pastor de Guerre
1:02:05>> in the Lakes region.
1:02:08>> Earlier, they spoke about waste that
1:02:11can be recovered because yesterday
1:02:13someone asked if they are going to
1:02:16collect waste and sell it. They talked
1:02:19about the types of waste. I would like
1:02:21to know what types of waste we have
1:02:23that we could collect and put in a bag.
1:02:26Now, which of these wastes are
1:02:28recyclable or recycled? Thank you very
1:02:31much.
1:02:31>> Thank you. You insisted on asking your
1:02:34second question and you finally did it.
1:02:38I don't want to get, yes, go ahead.
1:02:42>> Thank you very much. My name is Levi, I
1:02:45come from Kloto, this kind of project.
1:02:49Thank you very much.
1:02:51>> Thanks to our friend who comes from OJI
1:02:53for that question. Maybe the last one.
1:02:57There is a hand behind there. There is
1:03:00a hand in the back. Please bring him
1:03:04the microphone. And for those who don't
1:03:06know where Bodier is located. Bodier is
1:03:09in the PE, right? Yes. You arrive at
1:03:13DTA at the roundabout there, you take
1:03:15the right side, you go in a bit, a
1:03:17little, a little more, and you have
1:03:18found the place. Is that good?
1:03:22>> Yes, that's good.
1:03:23>> The last question. Yes.
1:03:25>> Uh, please, it's regarding the use of
1:03:28data.
1:03:28>> Your name and place of origin.
1:03:32>> I come from Notsé, I am a pastor. I go
1:03:35by the name of Nignon.
1:03:36>> Nomignon. Pastor Nignon who comes to us
1:03:39from Notsé.
1:03:40>> Yeah. What, what place? Neighborhood.
1:03:43Sorry.
1:03:44>> Where exactly do you come from in
1:03:46Notsé?
1:03:47>> Uh, Soeké.
1:03:48>> Ah, okay.
1:03:49>> Yeah. TG 0933.
1:03:52>> There we go. Regarding the use of the
1:03:55data as it was presented at the
1:03:57conference earlier, it sounded like it
1:03:59was very precise. However, according to
1:04:03the explanations given just now, it is
1:04:05clear that this data is only
1:04:06approximate. So, I would like for there
1:04:11to be a little more restraint, if
1:04:14possible, in how this data is used. Now
1:04:18, regarding the organic production, we
1:04:23know how much and to what extent
1:04:26herbicides, pesticides, and everything
1:04:29ending in "cide" are used. Is there
1:04:34really a guarantee that our fields meet
1:04:38the requirements for organic production
1:04:43? Do our fields? Because the fields
1:04:50that neighbor us, the fields close to
1:04:54ours, are under the influence of those
1:04:58"sides." Do we, for our part, have a
1:05:03guarantee that our products are truly
1:05:06organic? Thank you very much, Pastor
1:05:11Nomion, who comes to us from Nottien.
1:05:15The first question in this second
1:05:18series of questions, uh, waste. Our
1:05:22friend, I I want to listen to you. Our
1:05:24friend who comes to me, oh yeah. Would
1:05:25you like to say a word? Yes. Go ahead.
1:05:27>> OK. Thank you very much for the
1:05:30question about waste, and we know that
1:05:33we have so much waste that there are
1:05:36several types, and we have tried to
1:05:38categorize them into three types. So
1:05:43you will see, we have organic waste. So
1:05:47, waste that can decompose easily, like
1:05:51vegetable scraps, herbs, everything we
1:05:55use at home when you finish cooking,
1:05:59fruit peels, everything we eat, that
1:06:03should be put aside. So, waste should
1:06:07not all be mixed into a single bin. So
1:06:10we have categorized it, and each type
1:06:13of waste has its own bin. So organic
1:06:18waste in one bin, and that is what is
1:06:22used to make organic inputs like
1:06:26compost and those organic pesticide
1:06:29things. Now, in addition to that, there
1:06:35is recyclable waste, meaning things we
1:06:39use but can use again or repurpose. For
1:06:45example, if we take plastic bags, we
1:06:47have seen that with the bags that are
1:06:50everywhere, we can still transform them
1:06:52into something else to use. And there
1:06:56are specialized organizations that buy
1:06:59those bags, different types of bags.
1:07:04And besides bags, we also have tires,
1:07:08basins, and sacks that we have shown
1:07:11can be used for farming. So everything
1:07:17you use that you know can be used again
1:07:20falls under "recyclable." Now for the
1:07:243rd category: non-recyclables or waste
1:07:27that is hazardous. That, too, must be
1:07:32set aside. So if you manage to sort
1:07:36your waste like that, you'll see you
1:07:39won't have much waste at home and it
1:07:42won't be a headache for you. With
1:07:46organic waste, you can already use it
1:07:49for farming. You've at least eliminated
1:07:51a portion. With recyclable waste, you
1:07:54can reuse, repurpose, and even make
1:07:57money from it. And now, for what is
1:08:02hazardous or non-recyclable, city
1:08:05services go around to houses to collect
1:08:08and take it to final waste sites where
1:08:12it will be treated or disposed of. So,
1:08:17those are the types of waste we have.
1:08:21>> Thank you.
1:08:22>> Yes, thank you. pass the microphone
1:08:23>> PGS, which we are currently developing,
1:08:27will bring together those who do the
1:08:30same activities, those who manage
1:08:32production. And so, I think that at the
1:08:36cluster level in our areas, even if the
1:08:38cluster can be divided into two or
1:08:40three, creating those markets will be
1:08:42very beneficial for us. Thank you very
1:08:45much.
1:08:45>> production conditions Are the fields
1:08:49suitable? Do you have a guarantee? When
1:08:52you do the work, is there a guarantee
1:08:54that everything is okay with the
1:08:56neighboring field? Uh, won't the other
1:08:59person be a bit, you know,
1:09:01disadvantaged by your approach? Won't
1:09:04they have issues later, with
1:09:06consequences and such? That is
1:09:09precisely why we talk about the
1:09:11agroecological transition. Actually, we
1:09:14are mixing things up. We are talking
1:09:16about the transition. Currently, we
1:09:18must speak of the agroecological
1:09:20transition first in order to move
1:09:22toward, or even fully embrace,
1:09:23agroecology.
1:09:26>> Because our lands, our soils are
1:09:28already...for, as he said, it takes
1:09:31time for...we are talking about
1:09:33regenerative agriculture, so it takes
1:09:36time for those things to return. And so
1:09:40that's why we are showing you the best
1:09:42practices for a sustainable
1:09:44agricultural system. You practice them,
1:09:48you observe, for 1, 2, 3 years. And to
1:09:52get to, as I said, organic, you
1:09:54certainly need certification, which is
1:09:57why I'm trying to make a distinction
1:10:00between agroecology and that organic
1:10:02production. But it is very important
1:10:06today to understand that we are in an
1:10:08agroecological transition and we
1:10:09encourage our parents and the youth to
1:10:11follow suit. It won't be...but it's a
1:10:14habit we are going to adopt. Thank you
1:10:17very much.
1:10:17>> Thank you very much to you. You are
1:10:19Kemavo Prudentio. Uh, thank you for
1:10:22those explanations. Thanks also to our
1:10:25friend David. Thanks Aqua. Thanks also
1:10:30to Kevin, Samuel, thank you to all of
1:10:32you. Let's applaud them for everything
1:10:36they covered, the topics and the Q&A as
1:10:38a whole. Let's give them an even bigger
1:10:40round of applause. Thank you, Mr.
1:10:45Photographer. We are going to take a
1:10:47final group photo. We'll clear the
1:10:51stage and then we'll take a break and
1:10:53then the rest It is

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