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C4 Jiménez da detalles de asesinato del tecladista de Camilo Séptimo “los asesinó uno por uno” — Transcript

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0:01And well, with great excitement, and
0:03not surprisingly, this multiple
0:06homicide was recorded on Tuesday in
0:08Atizapán, in the State of Mexico,
0:11where a subject allegedly killed the
0:14keyboardist, producer and co-founder of
0:17the Indie Rock band Camilo VI, 38 years
0:20old, Jonathan Samuel, for a debt; his
0:2235-year-old wife, 4 months pregnant;
0:25their little Sofía, a 3-year-old girl;
0:30the girl who helped them around the
0:32house, Leida, 21 years old, and their
0:34pet. A child miraculously survived, a 6
0:37-year-old boy, because I understand
0:39that he hid when he saw what was
0:41happening. Journalist Carlos Jiménez
0:43is with us and I really appreciate it,
0:45Carlos. Good morning.
0:47Oh, Susana, how are you? I greet you
0:49with great pleasure, as well as the
0:50entire audience,
0:51thank you. What happened with this?
0:54There's talk of a debt, of a deception,
0:56of a problem with some timeshares. I
0:58don't know what happened, Carlos. What
1:00do you know?
1:02There are different versions given by
1:05the person arrested and a friend of the
1:08victim, a friend of Jonathan. Yesterday
1:13morning when I saw the first images
1:15around 9 in the morning, it sounds...I
1:18have to confess that I have been
1:20covering these types of situations for
1:23over 20 years and I think it's one of
1:26the most difficult, most shocking
1:28images I've ever seen, the way in which
1:31these people were murdered, especially
1:33the feat
1:36that happened when this guy, the 3-
1:41year-old girl you mentioned, was left
1:44dead on top of her mother inside a
1:47shower and there are traces of blood
1:50from this girl who stepped in the blood
1:53. In other words, the guy was murdering
1:58person by person inside the house while
2:00he was doing something, demanding
2:02something from them, looking for
2:03something. And what the authorities
2:07later learned were two versions. One of
2:11them was a friend of Jonathan's, who
2:13said that there was a guy, in this case
2:16the murderer, who was demanding 300,000
2:19pesos from him. Sometimes one says that
2:22he told him that he owed them, and
2:24other times he said that he was going
2:26to lend them, but that they were
2:28300,000 pesos that they had due to a
2:30problem with some houses that they were
2:32renting on Airbnb in the Valle de Bravo
2:34area.
2:35That was the first version. And even,
2:38what he says, when he reports to the
2:40authorities around 8 at night, he tells
2:43them that Jonathan asked him to look
2:45for the authorities or if they were
2:47taking too long, and he tells the
2:49authorities, "I haven't heard from
2:51Jonathan in 4 hours, let's go look for
2:53him." He arrives at the apartment with
2:57security personnel, knocks on the door,
2:59and someone answers from inside the
3:01apartment who they now know was the
3:03murderer, but at that moment they
3:05didn't know what was going on inside
3:07the house. The murderer answers who he
3:11is. They tell him that it is Jonathan.
3:14The murderer replies, "Yes, but I can't
3:15open it." And the same friend tells him
3:17, "That's not Jonathan." Yeah.
3:19But since they don't have keys, since
3:21they don't have a way to get in, they
3:22go out to start looking for the police.
3:25They return around 11 at night, now
3:28with the police from Atizapán, with
3:30Marina and with the owner, the mother
3:32of the owner of the penouse, who gives
3:34them the opportunity to open it, and
3:37that's when the police enter around 11
3:39and find all this. This man was
3:43arrested by the authorities yesterday
3:45morning and now what he says is that he
3:48was going to look for cryptocurrencies
3:50because they had a problem and a
3:52cryptocurrency debt of 30 million pesos
3:55and that he was also going to ask him
3:57for some dollars that he also
3:59supposedly owed him. And what the
4:03authorities know and have been able to
4:05establish is that while he was
4:07murdering the victims, as I told you at
4:09the beginning, he continued demanding
4:11that Jonathan tell him where the
4:13cryptocurrencies were and where the
4:15money was that he supposedly wanted to
4:17take from Susana. The murderer
4:20identified as Gerardo Cisneros Bejarano
4:23. Yes,
4:27exactly. He is the chauffeur. There
4:29are two people, forgive me.
4:31It is Diego Sebastián Rosén.
4:33Diego Sebastián Rosén Ferlini. He
4:37went up to the Penhouse, he already did
4:38what you told us while outside a
4:40subject identified as Gerardo Cisneros
4:41was waiting for him, who was like a
4:43chauffeur or accomplice who was waiting
4:45for him to escape.
4:47Yes. What Gerardo Cisneros says is that
4:49he was just his chauffeur. He says that
4:52he did not really know what they were
4:54going for, according to what he says.
4:57The authorities, in fact, begin to
4:59track everything because he arrives,
5:01the chauffeur arrives at the Natapán
5:03housing complex and he leaves his
5:05credentials to enter the housing
5:07complex. They enter in a gray van. When
5:13the authorities find this whole crime
5:16scene, they begin to see who the person
5:18who entered was; They check the records
5:21of the residential access and find the
5:23photograph of his license that he left,
5:25and they find that he entered this gray
5:28Kia when he had the plates of a
5:30Chevrolet. They changed the plates;
5:34they don't know exactly if it was to
5:36throw people off the scent yesterday,
5:38well, the day of the crime, or if they
5:40had done it before, but the plates are
5:42changed. And from there, the Atizapán
5:45Police, the Navy, and the Attorney
5:47General's Office of the State of Mexico
5:49start dragging the car; they realize
5:51that he is leaving for Mexico City and
5:53that's when the Federal Police of the
5:55city, the Mexico City Police, and the
5:57Attorney General's Office have the two
6:00subjects since they had escaped to
6:01their
6:03Hey, Carlos, well, that's terrible. I
6:06know that, well, you do extraordinary
6:08follow-ups of cases like this, I mean,
6:10you don't just stop at what is said,
6:12you investigate, search, get stuck. The
6:16thing here is, was there a meeting
6:17arranged, I mean, I don't know. Yes,
6:19yes, there was one,
6:21in fact, uh, what is known about Sucena
6:24is that hours before the crime, the
6:27victim, uh, in this case Jonathan, and
6:29his aggressor and Diego, had played
6:32paddle tennis in the same residential
6:35complex. They have been partners for a
6:38long time. I know that yesterday they
6:41had played paddle tennis, sorry, on
6:42Tuesday they had played paddle tennis
6:44for a while and then he is the one who
6:46goes up to the apartment alone and that
6:48is where all this television begins.
6:50They
6:51play paddle tennis, I suppose they meet
6:53there at the meeting, that if you owe
6:55me I owe you whatever. And Jonathan,
6:58well, commits this excess of confidence
7:00, let's say, of inviting him to his
7:02house, to his apartment.
7:04Yes, yes. In fact, he calmly goes up to
7:06his apartment. The family knew him, the
7:09people there had let him in. That is
7:13why, uh, uh, at first the authorities
7:15did not know what had happened, because
7:17to enter you have to register at the
7:19booth, you have to search the car, to
7:21go up to the penthouse you have to
7:23register. That is to say, this
7:26situation seemed very strange to them,
7:27but when they began to analyze
7:29everything, they realized that it was
7:30precisely a friend who had let her pass
7:32without any problem, without any other
7:34situation,
7:37that later we see him in the elevator
7:38that goes up to the penouse where
7:40Jonathan is with his family and that he
7:41is wearing a cap, a backpack where he
7:43carried the weapon or he was already
7:44armed, I suppose. What the authorities
7:48know is that he was carrying a pistol
7:50with a silencer, because there is no
7:53record of any witness who talks about
7:55the shooting. Wow.
7:58And I mean, the images of the victims
8:00and what the authorities have found is
8:03that all of them were shot in the head,
8:05all of them were tied up with tape.
8:10They find, they start finding, in
8:12principle, the first person they find
8:14is the young woman who worked with them
8:17as their domestic employee. Then they
8:21find the mother of the 3-year-old girl
8:24in the shower of a bathroom, the 3-
8:26year-old girl on her lap and then in a
8:29room, in the main room of the house, in
8:32an armchair next to the window, that's
8:34where they find Dan Jonathan. And while
8:39they were doing all this searching that
8:41I was telling you about, they thought
8:43that maybe the murderer was still
8:44inside the house, because even on my
8:46Twitter account you can see some images
8:48that were recorded by the first police
8:50officers who entered. Since they didn't
8:53know if the murderer was still there
8:55because of the previous situation that
8:57I told you about, they arrived, knocked
8:59and someone answered them, they enter
9:01armed, they start searching. First they
9:03notice the girl and ask for an
9:05ambulance thinking that the girl could
9:07be alive. They realize that she is not.
9:10They leave the room, you hear someone
9:12yelling, "I have a boy, I have a boy."
9:14And they enter the other room. And
9:16that's when the little 5-year-old boy
9:18comes out from under the bed and he's
9:20hiding under the bed, under his
9:22blankets and that's where they find him
9:24hiding. Meanwhile, his entire family
9:27found her dead inside the different
9:29rooms. They find a dead dog and they
9:32find another live dog that was even at
9:34one point on top of Jonathan in a way
9:37that was taking care of him. Well,
9:41listen, Carlos, so at 5:17 we see this
9:43guy go up in the elevator with
9:44premeditated malice, advantage, I mean,
9:47he was going to do what he was going to
9:49do, right? Yes, yes,
9:52yes. What the authorities know is that
9:55...what, from what they've learned, uh,
9:57uh...he says, the detainee, he says
9:59that he only wanted to pressure him,
10:01that, that he wanted to pressure
10:02Jonathan so that Jonathan would give
10:04him the dollars and the
10:09cryptocurrencies, according to what he
10:11says now, and that things, he says, got
10:13out of control. But yes, he went, he
10:16went directly with the intention of
10:18taking that away and as the situation
10:20progressed, he murdered the victims. In
10:24fact, when the images were taken, you
10:26can see the drawers being searched in
10:28the house, you can see things open, you
10:30can see open furniture, you can see
10:31that there was a complete search of the
10:33place. In fact, I'll tell you: when
10:37they went up and knocked on the door
10:39and the person inside answered, who in
10:42this case was the murderer, they went
10:44to...this was around 8:30 at night,
10:46about 3 hours passed before they could
10:48enter with the police and that's when
10:50they realized all this looting and also
10:52, of course, the terrible situation of
10:54the victims.
10:56And they didn't dial 911 that's when
10:57they realized it wasn't him. It's just
11:00that a lot of time went by, Carlos, I
11:02mean, I don't know if there was still
11:04anyone alive at the time the murderer
11:05answered. Uh, I don't know. Yes, what
11:10the authority report says, which
11:12includes the precise times of each
11:14situation that happened, is that
11:16Jonathan's friend, a friend identified
11:19as Freddy, is the first one who starts
11:21doing this situation of going to look
11:23for them because he already knew that
11:26Jonathan was in trouble with him now.
11:29But when they get to the door they
11:31knock and Freddy says, "Hey, no, that's
11:34not Jonathan. What do we do? I'll give
11:37you the exact times at 8.
11:39Hold on a little bit and you can give
11:41it to me. Thank you.

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