Bridging Generations | Alumni Insights 2.0 – SANJAY GAJENDRA — Transcript
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- 0:01Sanjay, shall we start?
- 0:03>> Absolutely.
- 0:04>> Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
- 0:07A very good evening to everyone.
- 0:09It gives me immense pleasure to welcome
- 0:12you all to the sixth episode of Bridging
- 0:15Generations Alumni Insights
- 0:182.0. This is an initiative of Miri's
- 0:21Foundation at Malnad College of
- 0:23Engineering, Hassan.
- 0:25All about Bridging Generation, it is
- 0:27more than just alumni interaction
- 0:30series. It is a platform that connects
- 0:33the experiences, the achievements of our
- 0:36distinguished alumni with the
- 0:38aspirations of our young engineers.
- 0:42Today's session is particularly special
- 0:45and personally meaningful to me.
- 0:47Our distinguished guest, Mr.
- 0:50Sanjay Gajendra, is not only a proud
- 0:53alumnus of 1996 batch of Computer
- 0:56Science and Engineering at Malnad
- 0:59College of Engineering, but also my
- 1:01classmate. To add upon, his life
- 1:04partner, Mrs. Roopa Nayak, is also my
- 1:07classmate. It is indeed a wonderful
- 1:10feeling to welcome someone with whom I
- 1:13shared my college days and the journey
- 1:16of engineering education and to see him
- 1:19today as a successful global technology
- 1:23leader and entrepreneur.
- 1:26Yeah. Uh Sanjay, it is truly a proud and
- 1:31memorable moment for me to introduce you
- 1:34to our students and our faculty.
- 1:37From being classmates at MCE to
- 1:40witnessing your remarkable journey
- 1:43in the global semiconductor industry,
- 1:46it is really inspiring to see how far
- 1:49your vision, dedication, and hard work
- 1:52have taken you.
- 1:53Yes, Mr. Sanjay Gajendra is currently
- 1:57the president, chief operating officer,
- 2:00and co-founder of Astera Labs, a
- 2:03semiconductor technology company
- 2:06headquartered in Silicon Valley,
- 2:08California, USA.
- 2:10Astera Labs develops advanced
- 2:13semiconductor-based connectivity
- 2:15solutions that are critical to modern
- 2:18cloud and artificial intelligence
- 2:21infrastructure.
- 2:22With nearly three decades of
- 2:25professional experience, Mr. Sanjay has
- 2:28built an outstanding career spanning
- 2:31software engineering, semiconductor
- 2:34technology, product management, business
- 2:37development, and corporate leadership.
- 2:40He began his professional journey at
- 2:43Wipro Technologies in 1996,
- 2:46subsequently moving to National
- 2:49Semiconductor,
- 2:51where he held very important roles in
- 2:53software engineering and project product
- 2:56management.
- 2:58Uh later, he joined Texas Instruments,
- 3:01where he served in senior leadership
- 3:03positions, including director of product
- 3:07management and general manager and
- 3:10product line director for high-speed
- 3:13signal conditioning.
- 3:15During his tenure at Texas Instruments,
- 3:17he led multidisciplinary
- 3:20teams across silicon design, product
- 3:23engineering, marketing, and business
- 3:26operations. His leadership contributed
- 3:29to the development and launch of more
- 3:32than 50 products, along with new
- 3:35business initiatives that generated
- 3:38hundreds of millions of dollars in
- 3:40revenue.
- 3:41And the good news is in 2018,
- 3:45he co-founded Astera Labs, taking on the
- 3:49challenge of building a technology
- 3:51company focused on solving critical
- 3:54connectivity challenges in the rapidly
- 3:57evolving cloud and AI ecosystem. To add
- 4:01on, he also holds a master's degree in
- 4:04engineering management from the
- 4:07University of California Sorry, from the
- 4:10University of Colorado Boulder with
- 4:14an emphasis on research and development
- 4:17and business management.
- 4:19Yes, what makes this journey inspiring
- 4:22is his belief that talented people,
- 4:24disciplined execution, and game-changing
- 4:28innovation are essential ingredients for
- 4:32sustained business success.
- 4:35Sanjay, I feel an immense sense of pride
- 4:38in your achievements. Your journey is a
- 4:40reminder to our students that the
- 4:43foundations laid at MCE can lead to
- 4:47extraordinary accomplishments on the
- 4:49global stage.
- 4:51Your presence today makes this episode
- 4:54of Bridging Generations even more
- 4:56meaningful as it truly represents the
- 4:59spirit of reconnecting with our roots,
- 5:03celebrating the achievements of our
- 5:05alumni, and inspiring the next
- 5:07generation. On behalf of Meenakshi
- 5:09Foundation and Malnad College of
- 5:12Engineering, I extend a very warm and
- 5:15heartfelt welcome to you. Sanjay,
- 5:18welcome back to your MCE family. The
- 5:21stage is yours. Thank you.
- 5:25>> Great. Now, thank you so much. That's so
- 5:27kind of you. All the things you said,
- 5:29it's a it's a pleasure both uh
- 5:32to reconnect with you, uh Geetha Kiran,
- 5:35considering uh all the time we spent
- 5:37together uh in Hassan. It's also great
- 5:40to uh talk to all of you who have uh
- 5:43who are connected on the call today.
- 5:46It's been a journey, but uh the journey
- 5:49started in MCH as in
- 5:51So, it's a it's my privilege to be to
- 5:54talking to all of you.
- 5:58>> Thank you.
- 6:11You want to present anything?
- 6:14Can be presenting?
- 6:16>> I wouldn't be presenting. I can talk.
- 6:19>> Um
- 6:20>> Yeah, that's very nice.
- 6:22>> Yeah.
- 6:23And maybe
- 6:24let me kick off by giving a little bit
- 6:26more for folks that are listening on um
- 6:29on on
- 6:31the journey that you described. Um
- 6:34You know, for me um
- 6:37obviously started in Hassan.
- 6:39I did my computer science.
- 6:41I think many of you um
- 6:43probably um
- 6:45have this feeling. Um when I was growing
- 6:47up, the primary thing around um
- 6:51that I wanted to do was that I did not
- 6:53want to work for a services company in
- 6:55India.
- 6:56Um I always was passionate about
- 7:00products.
- 7:01And um
- 7:03had the opportunity, of course, to start
- 7:05my career in Wipro.
- 7:08Made sure that I did not work on
- 7:11services part of Wipro.
- 7:13And started off with a with a product
- 7:16that that Wipro was building.
- 7:19But in general, my journey has been
- 7:21around uh how to
- 7:24make sure that um
- 7:26I'm putting myself in situations where
- 7:29we are um
- 7:31working on on technology that results in
- 7:35um
- 7:35in scale when it comes to monetization.
- 7:39So, for me, that path was largely by
- 7:42looking at companies uh even back then.
- 7:46Um companies like Microsoft or Apple
- 7:49that worked on products and were able to
- 7:52scale themselves not based on just human
- 7:56innovation,
- 7:58but also about
- 8:00being able to monetize by selling
- 8:03millions of products.
- 8:05So, that was my calling card. The second
- 8:08thing that I always wanted to do was to
- 8:11make sure that I'm able to uh
- 8:15build a company very early on um
- 8:18even when I was a little child, I always
- 8:21equated entrepreneurship with
- 8:23independence.
- 8:25And that independence that I sought and
- 8:28not having to depend on others
- 8:31uh led me to believe that I need to
- 8:33start a company someday.
- 8:36So,
- 8:37the effort that I have done ever since
- 8:40even during college days, I used to work
- 8:42multiple jobs to be able to not take any
- 8:45money from my parents for living
- 8:49expenses and so on
- 8:51uh during my college days.
- 8:53And those were things that also shaped
- 8:55me to be able to pursue different
- 8:58things. But the second objective that I
- 9:00have always pursued was to make sure
- 9:03that um
- 9:04that the independence that you achieve
- 9:07by being an entrepreneur was preserved.
- 9:09And thankfully, I was able to do that
- 9:12when we started Astera Labs about 10
- 9:15years ago.
- 9:17That has turned into
- 9:19a
- 9:20a significant powerhouse in the in the
- 9:22AI infrastructure market.
- 9:25Nine out of 10 data centers today or if
- 9:28you're using Google or Amazon or any of
- 9:31the tools,
- 9:32there is
- 9:33almost a nine out of 10 chance that the
- 9:36technology is powered by Estera Labs.
- 9:38So, I feel proud about
- 9:40um the journey and the impact that we're
- 9:42doing.
- 9:44The third thing that I would say is uh
- 9:46is what we're doing here, which is um to
- 9:49make sure that you not only achieve
- 9:51individual success
- 9:53uh or individual dreams and goals, but
- 9:56also make sure that the blessings that
- 9:58we have been given or what I have been
- 10:00given is shared with others so that the
- 10:04path is uh a little bit easier to the
- 10:06ones that follow.
- 10:08So, I think in in summary, what I would
- 10:10say is that um
- 10:12uh
- 10:13this conversation is great for me
- 10:15because it does
- 10:17bring
- 10:18the circle full full around in terms of
- 10:22uh starting in yeah in MCE and picking
- 10:26up my initial education there for um
- 10:30through the undergrad degree.
- 10:32And then growing through a a career that
- 10:35spanned different companies and
- 10:37different roles,
- 10:38but all
- 10:39uh all um uh central with the idea of uh
- 10:43being independent, being an
- 10:44entrepreneur, and to be able to make
- 10:47sure that um uh that not only I am
- 10:50successful, but we are able to enable
- 10:53others to reach their maximum potential.
- 10:56So, with that, I'll hand it back to you,
- 10:58Gita, for any other questions that you
- 11:00might have.
- 11:05>> Yeah, Sanjay, I have shared the
- 11:07questions with you.
- 11:12Hello.
- 11:13>> Yes.
- 11:13>> Ma'am, yeah. I think you can hear me.
- 11:19>> Yeah, Gita ma'am, can we probably you
- 11:21can go through the questions and ask
- 11:23uh the questions which you already have.
- 11:26Then uh we can leave it open to the
- 11:28people to ask questions, huh?
- 11:30Probably the the pre
- 11:32you were the pre list from the students
- 11:34correct. Let us go through that first
- 11:35and then go to leave it to the
- 11:36organizers here.
- 11:38>> Sure, we'll do it.
- 11:45>> Yeah, so let me the first question that
- 11:47is there is choosing the right area of
- 11:49specialization.
- 11:51As engineering students, we are exposed
- 11:54to numerous technologies and career
- 11:56opportunities.
- 11:58How did you identify the field you
- 12:00wanted to specialize in during your
- 12:03early career and how did you determine
- 12:06that you were making the right choice?
- 12:10So, it's a question that gets asked in
- 12:12different ways.
- 12:14You know, obviously it feels like
- 12:16everything is planned, but trust me it's
- 12:19not. Um at least in my case, um I did
- 12:22not want to do engineering.
- 12:24Um but as fate would have it, I could
- 12:27not get into
- 12:30uh
- 12:31the uh medical line which I wanted to
- 12:33go.
- 12:34Um unfortunately, you know, at that
- 12:36point I think even now you have CET. Um
- 12:40I think the the general merit
- 12:42>> for engineering. For medical, it is NEET
- 12:45now.
- 12:46One more
- 12:46>> I see.
- 12:47>> national level
- 12:48>> Yeah. I see. No, unfortunately my
- 12:51situation was such that I could not
- 12:53afford to go to any private college at
- 12:55that point. And the cut off I remember
- 12:58was like 325
- 13:00rank I think state rank for merit seats
- 13:03at that point and my ranking was 329.
- 13:07So, unfortunately I could
- 13:10I could could not get into medicine and
- 13:13then
- 13:15the next best thing was engineering. As
- 13:17you know, in growing up in India you
- 13:18have you can be anything um
- 13:21as long as it's a doctor or engineer.
- 13:25So, that's how
- 13:27that's how I got into engineering.
- 13:30Um
- 13:31and Hassan became a choice because
- 13:36I had a aunt out there that lived and my
- 13:39parents at that point wanted to make
- 13:40sure that we were close to someone.
- 13:43So, um
- 13:45So, I think there was a series of things
- 13:47that played out, but I would also say,
- 13:50you know, life is about I think as you
- 13:52build your career, you'll realize that
- 13:54there are many doors that open to you.
- 13:58As long as you're pointed in the right
- 14:00way that
- 14:01sort of aligns with your passion. For
- 14:04me, like I noted, being an entrepreneur,
- 14:07being a builder
- 14:09was something that
- 14:11that I was naturally inclined to and
- 14:14engineering made at that point given the
- 14:17circumstances. I didn't have any It
- 14:19wasn't like I didn't want to be an
- 14:20engineer, but it was something that I
- 14:23was um
- 14:25um that I could relate to. Now, I also
- 14:28was very clear about what I don't want
- 14:30to do in the sense that I was not cut
- 14:33out to be a mechanical engineer or civil
- 14:37engineer. I just felt that those were
- 14:41things that I did not associate with.
- 14:44Programming and computer engineering
- 14:47again connected back to what I
- 14:50thought I was good at, which was to be
- 14:53creative in terms of solving different
- 14:56problems. And at that point, software
- 14:59programming was something that I I
- 15:01deeply deeply enjoyed even back in
- 15:04college days.
- 15:06And that's kind of how it all started.
- 15:08It's hard to kind of pinpoint and have
- 15:11an ambition. You need to have a life
- 15:13passion. I truly believe that. In my
- 15:15case, like I noted, being independent
- 15:17and being an entrepreneur was my sort of
- 15:20anchoring concept in terms of how I
- 15:23wanted to lead my life. But the path
- 15:25that you take could be many and you
- 15:28learn different things and that that age
- 15:30especially when you're a college student
- 15:32or till you probably get to your um
- 15:34you know, late 20s,
- 15:37my philosophy in life and in generally
- 15:39when I tell kids of that age is to you
- 15:42know, there is no wrong steps at that
- 15:45age meaning you can take any step and
- 15:47it's still a step forward.
- 15:49You you can fall and and you could have
- 15:52done a mistake but there's still a lot
- 15:53of time on your side to be able to
- 15:56correct and do what whatever is needed.
- 15:59So in general I would say don't
- 16:01overthink at that age as long as you're
- 16:03pointed generally in the direction of
- 16:05where you want to go,
- 16:07you'll be all right. And that is
- 16:10would be how I would suggest you
- 16:13approach
- 16:14your career as well.
- 16:23So the next question I see here is
- 16:25industry expectations and mentorship.
- 16:28Students are often encouraged to learn
- 16:31emerging technologies and undertake
- 16:33projects. From an industry leaders
- 16:35perspective, what qualities, skills and
- 16:39attitudes do you look for in eng
- 16:42engineers that make them worth mentoring
- 16:44and investing in?
- 16:46That's a great question. Um
- 16:48See, at the age that you are, one of the
- 16:51number one skills that is important and
- 16:54what we look for is how coachable you
- 16:57are.
- 16:58What I mean by that is
- 17:00you know, there's a lot of kids that
- 17:02probably have got great grades, probably
- 17:05um
- 17:06um
- 17:07are also very smart and hard working and
- 17:10all that but at the age that you are or
- 17:14the when you go through your academic
- 17:15stuff, you know, compared to the
- 17:17industry requirement to where you are
- 17:20when you're graduating, there's a
- 17:22significant gap. Doesn't matter which
- 17:24college you go or what course you do and
- 17:26so on.
- 17:28So, the number one thing becomes how do
- 17:30you bridge that gap between um
- 17:33the raw talent that you are to be able
- 17:36to
- 17:37um deliver at the the the expectations
- 17:41that you that are essential or or or um
- 17:44expected in the uh professional setup.
- 17:47Um and that gap you can close uh
- 17:51by making sure that that you know, you
- 17:54are given a certain amount of uh
- 17:56training and given a certain amount of
- 17:58uh mentorship. But, you need to be
- 18:01coachable. You need to be able to um
- 18:04um take the feedback, um build on it,
- 18:07learn from it, and so on. So, I think
- 18:10the number one quality we look for um at
- 18:12least in Estera and the companies and
- 18:15teams that I've been part of is how
- 18:16coachable you are. That's number one.
- 18:19Number two that we look for would be in
- 18:22terms of um
- 18:23um not necessarily your um your um uh
- 18:28your you know, skill set because a bar
- 18:30for skill set at that that level would
- 18:33be less. But, what we look for is uh how
- 18:36much of um
- 18:38uh how much of um
- 18:40uh not necessarily experience, but I
- 18:42would say projects that you've done
- 18:45because coursework is coursework, but if
- 18:47you can supplement during your your
- 18:50college time with various different
- 18:52projects you've done, whether it's an
- 18:54through internship or through your
- 18:57coursework projects, meaning more
- 18:59hands-on stuff versus um doing something
- 19:03that is um
- 19:04that is theoretical in nature. And I
- 19:06There are different companies that that
- 19:08look at different things, but I won't
- 19:10say generally speaking what uh we try to
- 19:13do is make sure that um someone or the
- 19:16the folks that we talk to uh
- 19:18have done something beyond just a
- 19:21theoretical studies of different courses
- 19:24that you're doing.
- 19:25And for that, you can do that through
- 19:27formal internships, or it could also
- 19:30happen that informally you are spending
- 19:33time learning, building, contributing to
- 19:36open-source forums and and other things.
- 19:39Those things in my mind are a lot more
- 19:41important than the grade that you have.
- 19:44Um cuz you know, usually we
- 19:47we try to go for the most success we
- 19:50have had in Estera has been in in
- 19:53mid-level regional colleges. Um you
- 19:56know, similar to a college like Hassan,
- 19:58let's say, back in India, where the kids
- 20:01are um
- 20:03you know, there is no chip on their
- 20:04shoulders. Uh when we go to Stanford or
- 20:07go to Harvard and other places and and
- 20:09interview kids, the challenge we see is
- 20:12that the kids already feel entitled. Um
- 20:15they feel that they deserve the job. I
- 20:17mean, this could happen for kids
- 20:19studying, let's say, in IIT in India,
- 20:21where there is a um
- 20:24you know, getting into IIT is considered
- 20:26their life success, and after that
- 20:28everything that happens doesn't matter.
- 20:31But the honest truth is that getting
- 20:33into a college or getting out of a
- 20:35college is um
- 20:37just the beginning of a long journey.
- 20:40And a going to the a certain college
- 20:42might help you get a job, the first job,
- 20:46but after 6 months or 1 year, it's level
- 20:48playing field, meaning we don't the
- 20:51college that you went to or the course
- 20:53that you did or the grades that you have
- 20:56is meaningless. And to that standpoint,
- 20:58what it comes down to is um is, you
- 21:01know, the ability of kids to be
- 21:03coachable, the ability of how quickly
- 21:06they can learn and adapt and those are
- 21:09things I would say are important
- 21:12factors. So if you get an opportunity to
- 21:14to
- 21:15to
- 21:18have some internship opportunities while
- 21:20in college, I think that is probably a
- 21:23very positive things thing on your
- 21:26resume.
- 21:31So I can go through this long list but
- 21:33there is any other questions is
- 21:35>> Yeah, Sanjay probably
- 21:37I think that's a brilliant point what
- 21:39you made about the learnability and
- 21:40coachability of the individuals
- 21:42and how it is important
- 21:44yeah grades are important but compared
- 21:46to that how do you learn and how you can
- 21:48be coached and molded. See what I liked
- 21:50about one point which you mentioned
- 21:52about the uniqueness of colleges like
- 21:54the way you mentioned you know, they're
- 21:56not probably the tier one sort of a
- 21:58thing but we get much more independence
- 22:01and probably much more opportunities to
- 22:03grow in the college. So that's something
- 22:05which we're trying to see how we can
- 22:06make
- 22:08Hassan College as the forefront in some
- 22:10of those things.
- 22:12Sanjay one related question which I have
- 22:14the whole concept of learnability today
- 22:17is going to take a big hit because of AI
- 22:19correct the way we are learning
- 22:21or way we have learned and the way that
- 22:23next generation will learn probably is
- 22:25different. How do you foresee it Sanjay
- 22:28the impact of AI on not only
- 22:29learnability every aspect but since you
- 22:31picked up on learnability I thought that
- 22:32is something interesting to
- 22:34ask you.
- 22:36>> Yeah, no absolutely. See first of all I
- 22:38would say to all of you guys
- 22:41AI is going to completely change how you
- 22:44learn how you work how you deal with
- 22:47life in general.
- 22:49Now we are in the forefront of the
- 22:52technology
- 22:53pretty much any major hyperscaler that
- 22:56you think of that's developing
- 22:58technology with Amazon or Nvidia or
- 23:02Google You know, we are essentially
- 23:04providing the underlying connectivity
- 23:07technology. So, um meaning we provide
- 23:10the
- 23:11If you think of a human body as an
- 23:13anatomy, like just for comparison, and
- 23:17um
- 23:17if companies like Nvidia are doing the
- 23:19brains, we do the nervous system,
- 23:21meaning connecting the brain to the
- 23:23different parts of the body or different
- 23:25parts of an AI server. So, we see a lot
- 23:28we see a lot in terms of the um the
- 23:31workloads and applications that are
- 23:33changing dramatically. But, to answer
- 23:35your question on um how AI um how how to
- 23:39deal with um AI or how to use AI, first
- 23:43thing you you need to embrace it. Don't
- 23:45fight it. Don't be worried about it. AI
- 23:47is here to stay.
- 23:49Okay. Just like internet, just like
- 23:51social media, you know, the genie's out
- 23:54of the bottle right now. And it is going
- 23:56to fundamentally change how um we all
- 23:59operate. So, specifically for the crowd
- 24:02here, I think there are two things,
- 24:03right? One is how do you leverage AI for
- 24:07your own learning? Um you know, first of
- 24:10all, again, I don't know what the
- 24:11policies at MCER, but at least um here
- 24:14what I see is that, you know, kids are
- 24:16encouraged to use AI as part of their um
- 24:20their coursework and and learning and so
- 24:23on. Um there is no need to fight it.
- 24:26There is no need to say, you know, you
- 24:28still have to learn the fun
- 24:31fundamentals. So, the way it's done here
- 24:33is kids are allowed to use uh AI for
- 24:36doing coursework, but exams, they have
- 24:39to make sure that, you know, it's uh
- 24:41there is no AI involved. So, to that
- 24:43standpoint, the foundational learning
- 24:45has to happen. And um
- 24:48uh I would say learn about how do you I
- 24:51mean, today, to be honest with you, and
- 24:53some of you guys may get worried who are
- 24:55doing computer science and all that.
- 24:58Um
- 24:59you know, till about like 10 years
- 25:01experience folks, we can replace that
- 25:04with AI. Okay, meaning our software
- 25:07engineering uh team, you know, we have
- 25:10pretty much achieved, I want to say, you
- 25:12know, 70-80%
- 25:14efficiency by using AI. In other words,
- 25:17what used to take us um let's say 10
- 25:20people, now we can do that with five
- 25:22people.
- 25:23Um and and that is uh the reality.
- 25:27Um that is also changing quickly to um
- 25:30you know, silicon design, hardware
- 25:32design, and so on. But um that is a
- 25:35reality. There is no point fighting
- 25:37about it, and especially for anything,
- 25:40most of the jobs in India, if you think
- 25:42about it, that are um
- 25:44that are um
- 25:45uh dealing with data and data movement
- 25:49or data synthesis, you can pretty much
- 25:51assume that uh most of those kind of
- 25:54jobs would be replaced by AI.
- 25:57So, the question becomes, what do you
- 25:59do? And the answer is in some ways
- 26:01complex, some ways simple, which is you
- 26:04need to figure out how do you go up the
- 26:06value chain, whereby leveraging the AI
- 26:09tools, whether it is um related to um a
- 26:13a certain um um you know, coding aspect
- 26:16or or software development aspect or any
- 26:18other aspect, you learn those tools. And
- 26:22that allows you to get to the next level
- 26:25of um of um
- 26:27uh of impact or influence you can have.
- 26:29Um and so that's that's that's
- 26:32foundational uh of what I would suggest
- 26:34you do, like at Estera, we do it just to
- 26:37give you an idea, we have high school
- 26:39internships. So, right at high school,
- 26:41kids are taught how to use AI, and I'm
- 26:44not talking about AI just for search,
- 26:47like chat GPT and all that. I'm talking
- 26:49about, you know, proper um agentic AIs,
- 26:52where people are writing agents to
- 26:54complete and do several things or
- 26:57leveraging that for
- 26:59for software development and so on. So,
- 27:02you have to like very early
- 27:05start embracing it in a way that would
- 27:08impact and allow you to do different
- 27:10things.
- 27:12Go ahead, Ashik.
- 27:17Ashik, you have a question.
- 27:18>> Yeah.
- 27:19>> Hello, sir. It's Ashik Lee actually from
- 27:21Miraish.
- 27:23So, lately I have been
- 27:26searching a lot about AI and I was
- 27:29getting to know that when optic fibers
- 27:31had come, we were not really actually
- 27:34using 100% of it and we were using only
- 27:37about 0.45%
- 27:39of it. Now, what would be like after 5
- 27:42or 10 years in product development,
- 27:45the AIs whichever we use become very
- 27:47expensive and we might have to go back
- 27:50to our initial stages of learning the
- 27:53actual what the initial ways of doing
- 27:57product development. Now, what do you
- 27:58suggest for the students that they have
- 28:00to focus
- 28:01things which are very much necessary in
- 28:03the product development?
- 28:06That completely not focusing on AI and
- 28:08learning everything from AI. What are
- 28:10those things that the students might
- 28:12have to follow and keep in mind that
- 28:15these are the things which you have to
- 28:16keep in mind and make sure that you are
- 28:18well versed with that. Even if there is
- 28:20no AI, you will still survive in the
- 28:22product development market.
- 28:25>> Yeah, see, number one thing I want to be
- 28:27very clear is that AI is a tool. Okay?
- 28:30Just like a calculator or even the
- 28:32internet, it's a it's a tool that can
- 28:35help you get the job done. But, you need
- 28:38to still do the job yourself, meaning
- 28:41the foundation learning of critical
- 28:43thinking or first principle thinking or
- 28:46problem-solving or you know,
- 28:49analyzing results and so on is is still
- 28:52very much a human thing. So, the
- 28:54learning that you guys are doing is not
- 28:58going to get replaced. You still have to
- 29:00learn those things.
- 29:01And AI
- 29:03is essentially a tool for
- 29:05for uh
- 29:07for learning better or learning
- 29:09differently or accelerating your
- 29:11learning and so on. That's a very
- 29:13critical differentiation that you need
- 29:15to make. Okay. Um so, that's the first
- 29:18point. Now, getting to your point of
- 29:20like
- 29:21you know, how do you
- 29:23Um I mean, you talked about optical and
- 29:26so on and the whole concept of you know,
- 29:28the dead fiber and so on. So, see we are
- 29:31right now in an in a in a infrastructure
- 29:34building stage with AI.
- 29:36Okay. So, we are meaning still very
- 29:39early in the AI journey.
- 29:42Um the way I would describe it is that
- 29:44some of you might have used dial-up
- 29:46internet. You know, initially when
- 29:47internet came up, you had to connect
- 29:49through the phone lines.
- 29:51Um and that's the stage that we truly
- 29:53are. There is a lot of infrastructure
- 29:55being built. Of course, um there is this
- 29:58infrastructure is not uh cheap meaning
- 30:00there's a lot of capital being poured
- 30:02into this.
- 30:04Um but, the fact of the matter remains
- 30:06the following, right? Um even today,
- 30:08even though people buy Nvidia GPUs
- 30:12paying tens of thousands of dollars,
- 30:14they're only utilized about 52% of the
- 30:17time. Meaning 48% of the time, they're
- 30:20simply waiting for data or memory.
- 30:24Meaning there is a lot of inefficiencies
- 30:26in how the servers are being uh
- 30:29um are being utilized. So, what you
- 30:32should expect is similar to the internet
- 30:36um
- 30:37uh
- 30:38revolution and the technology when it
- 30:40got deployed, there was a huge amount of
- 30:43infrastructure build out and lot of
- 30:45hype. But what happened is that in 2000,
- 30:48it all came crashing down, right?
- 30:51But the the goodness of internet as a
- 30:54technology is survived and then over the
- 30:57next decade meaning there was a big
- 31:00run-up and then it all came down and
- 31:02then there was a a gradual growth to to
- 31:05start realizing how to monetize a
- 31:08technology, meaning like once people
- 31:10figured out how to monetize internet
- 31:13through
- 31:14various different ways, whether it's
- 31:15online
- 31:17commerce, e-commerce, or by leveraging
- 31:20it for a variety of communication ways,
- 31:23whether it's voice over IP and things
- 31:25like that, then the monetization
- 31:27started, meaning you go from an
- 31:29infrastructure development to the
- 31:31monetization. And once the monetization
- 31:34starts, then you start the engine
- 31:36starts, you know, growing. Cuz today
- 31:39what's happening is that, you know, for
- 31:41every $150
- 31:43that are spent, um the amount of of of
- 31:48revenue coming through that is probably
- 31:50like $50, $60, meaning it's almost not
- 31:53even half. So this is this this is an
- 31:56initial anytime a new technology is lot
- 31:58of infrastructure being built, the
- 32:00monetization is low. So at some point
- 32:03the the markets will react, the capital
- 32:06won't be available, uh and and things
- 32:08will come down. But what happens is the
- 32:10monetization continues and once the
- 32:13monetization starts becoming at a faster
- 32:16clip than the capital investment that's
- 32:19going on, then suddenly you see this
- 32:21transition where you know, there's lot
- 32:23of
- 32:24lot of applications being built, people
- 32:27are paying for that. I mean, you see you
- 32:29see that even now happening with some of
- 32:31the search engine-based stuff like
- 32:33ChatGPT and so on. But still, we are so
- 32:36early in this era of AI that over the
- 32:39next 10 years, my hunch is you know, you
- 32:43would see so many changes happening
- 32:44around your lifestyle.
- 32:47Whether it is for doing like vacation
- 32:49planning. Today, what do you do? You you
- 32:52decide where you want to go, you go to a
- 32:54website, you do some research, you go
- 32:56book your hotels, you go book your
- 32:59you know, your travel tickets and so on.
- 33:02But very quickly in the next, let's say
- 33:04two to four years, it's all going to
- 33:06come down to just one prompt where you
- 33:09simply say, "Hey, I want to go you have
- 33:11these days free and you want to do
- 33:12something with it." And the tools would
- 33:15be smart enough to be able to figure out
- 33:17where all you have gone in the past,
- 33:19what kind of places that you like, what
- 33:21kind of
- 33:22locations are available, what do you
- 33:26what do you you know, what kind of
- 33:29logistics, travel tickets and all that
- 33:31is automatically done with a single
- 33:34prompt. And that is sort of the era that
- 33:37we'll be entering and and that will open
- 33:39up a whole different kind of economy
- 33:41similar to what internet did.
- 33:44And that will lead into new kind of
- 33:46jobs, meaning jobs are not going away,
- 33:48just to be very clear. What's happening
- 33:51is that the the way the jobs get
- 33:53defined, the job
- 33:55description or the kind of roles that
- 33:58you can do will be very different than
- 34:00what it is been in the last you know,
- 34:0210-20 years.
- 34:04So, in general, when it comes to
- 34:06product development, product management,
- 34:09what you need to make sure is that
- 34:11you're understanding the impact of a of
- 34:13a new tool which is AI and then saying,
- 34:16"Okay, now that we have this, how do you
- 34:18use that tool to achieve a different
- 34:21level of
- 34:22of productivity or monetization point?"
- 34:29>> Thank you. Thank you, sir. So, you're
- 34:30suggesting that
- 34:32the tools will help us to increase our
- 34:34efficiency but the fundamental human
- 34:37part is always built there.
- 34:39>> Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 34:41>> Thank you. Thank you, sir.
- 34:43>> Yeah, jobs are not going anywhere. All
- 34:45I'm suggesting is that I mean right now
- 34:47I can talk about Estera. We you know, we
- 34:49are hiring um because it is so talent is
- 34:53so hard to come by, you know, especially
- 34:56in Estera. Half of our hires we get from
- 34:59new college grads. We do that intensely
- 35:01because the new college grads are
- 35:05much more ready for AI than our
- 35:08generation. Okay, just a simple matter
- 35:10of fact just because of how you're grown
- 35:13up um in the social media era and how
- 35:15connected you are to to various tools
- 35:18and so on. Um
- 35:20you guys are much more prepared but my
- 35:22suggestion to all of you is that you
- 35:25need to retool yourself and make sure
- 35:27that you're able to um leverage that for
- 35:30achieving higher levels of productivity.
- 35:36>> Yeah. Thank you.
- 35:39Let us go to the next.
- 35:47>> Okay, you want me to read the next
- 35:49question?
- 35:51>> You tell me if you're asking something.
- 35:55>> Yeah, I was just thinking like we'll go
- 35:57to the move to the next question.
- 36:02Shall I?
- 36:03>> Yes, yes, please read it. I think it's
- 36:05better because let
- 36:06>> Yeah, the next question is regarding
- 36:08selecting the
- 36:09yeah, selecting the right career path.
- 36:13Uh the question is with career
- 36:15opportunities in web development, data
- 36:17analytics, and software engineering, how
- 36:20should students evaluate these options
- 36:23and choose a career path that offers
- 36:26long-term growth, job security, and
- 36:28professional satisfaction.
- 36:34>> Yeah, so I think I touched upon this a
- 36:36little bit earlier. Um
- 36:39See, the the uh
- 36:41at the stage that you are in a college,
- 36:43it's what becomes important is that your
- 36:46directionally, you know, we we we kind
- 36:49of joke here in the US saying you have
- 36:51to be in the right zip code.
- 36:54Um you don't have to right zip code or
- 36:56right pin code, I guess, in India. Um
- 36:59what I mean by that is um See, um all of
- 37:03you are talented. You all have various
- 37:05skill set, but it's almost like um
- 37:08making sure that you're pointed in the
- 37:11in the right way.
- 37:12Um I think career opportunities, I mean,
- 37:15it all comes down to what you want to do
- 37:18individually. Um In other words, some of
- 37:21you might be interested in in data
- 37:23analytics or or or hard core software
- 37:25programming, or you might be interested
- 37:28in product management, product
- 37:30marketing, or you might be interested
- 37:32in, you know, some other uh field as
- 37:34well, um including sales, technical
- 37:37sales as an example. Right? So, uh I
- 37:40would say you have to be honest to that
- 37:44cuz the
- 37:45uh um
- 37:46the mistake that I think a lot of folks
- 37:48do is to focus on their weakness and
- 37:51say, "Let me try to keep addressing the
- 37:54weakness I have." But what I find is
- 37:57that, you know, you all are blessed uh
- 37:59with a certain um skill set or a
- 38:02god-given talent. I find that the the
- 38:05the highest chance of success uh will
- 38:09happen when you are um when you are
- 38:12leveraging your strengths and and
- 38:15worrying less about your weakness. So,
- 38:18your strengths are naturally um inclined
- 38:20towards a passion you have or a domain
- 38:23domain that you feel naturally
- 38:26comfortable. So, I think it starts with
- 38:29that uh by being honest about
- 38:32uh what is your strength and then having
- 38:35the mindset of saying, "Let me leverage
- 38:37my strength um as a way of building a
- 38:41career or a profession."
- 38:44So, that I think is is a is a first
- 38:46point. Um then it becomes a a matter of
- 38:50like how do you uh surround yourself
- 38:53with the right people or the right
- 38:56context uh which goes back to the right
- 38:58PIN code I said, where, you know, if you
- 39:01are interested in product management,
- 39:03then you have to join a product company.
- 39:06You have to uh find a way to, you know,
- 39:09learn from how the product management
- 39:12type of career would work, which could
- 39:14be around, you know, understanding what
- 39:17the market needs, what the customer
- 39:19needs are, and and so on and so forth.
- 39:21So, that I know is easier said than done
- 39:24because in India, obviously, or in any
- 39:26place, you know, getting a job of what
- 39:29you are passionate about uh is
- 39:31difficult. Um but at that point, what it
- 39:34comes down to is that how are you able
- 39:37to manage your priorities? Meaning, even
- 39:41though you want to get into product
- 39:42management, you might start somewhere
- 39:44else. But then your fortitude of being
- 39:47able to stay true to your ambition and
- 39:51making sure that even though the first
- 39:53few years you're doing something that uh
- 39:55probably
- 39:56uh may not be directly related to
- 39:58product management is is is not
- 40:00something that you you get discouraged,
- 40:03but you start saying, "Given that my
- 40:06goal is product management, how do I
- 40:08start in a certain domain?" And I can
- 40:11give you an example. Like for me, like I
- 40:13noted, I wanted to start a company. That
- 40:15was my life's mission. That is what I
- 40:17always thought about. But I also
- 40:19realized very quickly that you know, the
- 40:22chances of building a a successful
- 40:24company is is is very small. Um I think
- 40:28the the statistic is that, you know, um
- 40:31just 6% of the companies see their fifth
- 40:34birthday, meaning 94% of the companies
- 40:38die even before they get to 5 years. So,
- 40:42it was is it was very clear for me that
- 40:45for me to start a company, I need to
- 40:46build some foundation, some anchor skill
- 40:49set, whether it's a domain knowledge, or
- 40:52whether it is having a good network of
- 40:54people, or having a mental temperament
- 40:58that that is strong in resilience and
- 41:01and all that stuff. So, what I did was
- 41:04my first job when I got in in Wipro, um
- 41:07uh
- 41:08you know, I made sure that I convinced
- 41:10enough people to put me in a group. It
- 41:12was a small group at that point in
- 41:14Wipro. 99% of Wipro was working on
- 41:17services. There was 1% of the company
- 41:20working on products. And I somehow made
- 41:23my way to that group. Um I started doing
- 41:26software. And then when I came to the
- 41:28US, I was still doing software. Although
- 41:31my next step was going to be on the
- 41:33business side, product management, I
- 41:35always made sure that even though I was
- 41:37part of the software engineering team, I
- 41:40would go have lunch with the product
- 41:42people. I would go and listen to how
- 41:44they're presenting to customers. I would
- 41:47try to like read up on different things
- 41:49and send some, you know, emails to the
- 41:51product team to say, "Hey, what do you
- 41:53think about this? What do you think
- 41:55about that?" Um every opportunity I got
- 41:58to go listen to someone talking about
- 42:00product management or entrepreneurship.
- 42:02So, the point I'm trying to make is that
- 42:04you may not get what you want on day
- 42:07one. But as long as you're honest about
- 42:10your passion, you believe in yourself,
- 42:13and you are able to leverage every
- 42:15opportunity
- 42:17to be able to
- 42:18to, you know, keep making a step forward
- 42:21to the goal that you have in life, I
- 42:23think you will eventually get there. You
- 42:25just have to have the temperament, the
- 42:28patience, and the conviction that one
- 42:31way or the other you'll achieve your
- 42:33goal. And that probably is um
- 42:36you know, some of the things that I
- 42:37would say of how to achieve uh long-term
- 42:41success, how to achieve professional
- 42:43satisfaction, and how to achieve job
- 42:46security. That really comes down to you
- 42:49as in like you need to be able to
- 42:51deliver enough results, you need to be
- 42:54able to deliver enough value, you need
- 42:57to show that you are truly someone that
- 42:59the company should
- 43:01should depend on. And that comes through
- 43:03working hard, working smart, and all the
- 43:06cliches that you hear. So, those are a
- 43:08few things I would tell when it comes to
- 43:10selecting a career path. You will not be
- 43:13there on day one, but if you are
- 43:15persistent, you will get to where you
- 43:17want to be.
- 43:28>> Sir,
- 43:29I have a question.
- 43:30>> Mhm.
- 43:31>> Sir,
- 43:32the
- 43:33Yeah, ma'am. I'm Dr. Mohana Lakshmi. I'm
- 43:36associated with Dr. Geetha Kiran at
- 43:38Miraise Foundation. I work with the her.
- 43:41I So, I was listening to ma'am reading
- 43:43your journey right from MCE going on to
- 43:47the global stage. You've seen various
- 43:48levels of transition in your career,
- 43:50sir. But what was that one point in your
- 43:52journey which made you to build such a
- 43:55big empire of Astera Labs? There is
- 43:58There should be some turning point which
- 44:00would have made you take this decision.
- 44:03>> Yeah, no. I think there were probably
- 44:05two important
- 44:07uh important points professionally that,
- 44:10uh, that helped me.
- 44:11One was, uh, in 2007.
- 44:15So, I was,
- 44:17uh, in software engineering for about 10
- 44:20years at that point.
- 44:22And, uh,
- 44:23you know, unfortunately, the first few
- 44:25years, the first 10 years, I worked on
- 44:27products that did not make money.
- 44:30Okay, so, I'm like one of those
- 44:32engineers that I will put my,
- 44:35you know, every minute of the day, uh,
- 44:37in in doing my work, but for me, the
- 44:41satisfaction comes when the product that
- 44:43I worked on from an engineering
- 44:45standpoint or whatever,
- 44:47transforms into monetary business or
- 44:50commercial success.
- 44:53Meaning, people are actually using the
- 44:55product. People are actually, uh, paying
- 44:58for it. So, what happened in 2007 was
- 45:01that I was so frustrated with, uh, with
- 45:04working on products that did not,
- 45:06uh, make money that I kept complaining
- 45:09to my then GM.
- 45:11And I think at some point he got so
- 45:13frustrated that he said, "Hey, if you,
- 45:16you know, think so much of yourself or
- 45:18you think," and I used to complain
- 45:19saying, "Your marketing team doesn't
- 45:21know what products to build." And, uh,
- 45:24he basically turned around really mad at
- 45:27me and said, "You know, if you think you
- 45:29know so much about marketing, you should
- 45:32join marketing."
- 45:33And, you know, that one sentence
- 45:36transformed me if the first time where I
- 45:39said, "Okay, I will take it." I took it
- 45:40as a challenge more than anything else.
- 45:43We were in Colorado. We had just built a
- 45:45a nice house. We had our son there. We
- 45:48had great friends there. But, over a
- 45:51weekend, we decided to move from
- 45:53Colorado to California because, you
- 45:55know, that's where National
- 45:57Semiconductor's, uh, which I was working
- 45:59then, they had their headquarters and
- 46:01the marketing teams were based here. So
- 46:03that I want to say is one
- 46:05life-transforming
- 46:07decision for me to basically say that
- 46:10now that
- 46:11I have an opportunity to do what I want
- 46:13to do, let me embrace it wholeheartedly.
- 46:16Meaning there was no half measure there.
- 46:19It was all or nothing. But that was one
- 46:21decision.
- 46:22The second decision or the turning point
- 46:24that happened was in
- 46:27National got acquired by Texas
- 46:29Instruments in 2012.
- 46:31Um and you know,
- 46:33um
- 46:34I had a great career in Texas
- 46:36Instruments. I was a GM. I was managing
- 46:38a significant business.
- 46:40Hundreds of people and and great
- 46:43success. I could have continued to be
- 46:44there.
- 46:45But then what
- 46:47also I mean even though we we learned a
- 46:50lot from Texas Instruments and the
- 46:51company was very kind. But what happened
- 46:54in 2017 was that you know, we saw this
- 46:57this transition happening where server
- 47:00motherboards were transitioning from
- 47:02just having CPUs from companies like
- 47:05Intel or AMD to start having GPUs or
- 47:09accelerators for doing what was then
- 47:11called heterogeneous compute or now we
- 47:14know it as AI infrastructure.
- 47:16Um or machine learning is was was the
- 47:19was the way it started. And we very
- 47:21quickly realized that the the when you
- 47:24have multiple processors on a computer,
- 47:27they need to talk to each other. They
- 47:29need to talk to each other very fast.
- 47:31And the underlying connectivity had to
- 47:33change. So by real fortune, I mean now I
- 47:37say it's fortunate but in TI we had to
- 47:40present to management every year what
- 47:43our longer term plan was. And this was
- 47:45my plan saying hey fundamentally the
- 47:48workloads are changing and hardware has
- 47:50to be different.
- 47:52Now
- 47:53I say it's fortunate because TI did not
- 47:56like the idea. I mean, TI has been a
- 47:58great company, but they focus mostly on,
- 48:01you know,
- 48:02industrial and automotive type of
- 48:04market,
- 48:05whereas AI is very vertical. You know,
- 48:07there's only few large companies like
- 48:10Google and Amazon
- 48:12that that you get to service mostly.
- 48:16And to that standpoint, again, it was a
- 48:19decision time, you know, you you believe
- 48:21in something
- 48:23in terms of transition, but the other
- 48:26person does not or the company in this
- 48:28case did not believe. And it comes down
- 48:31to what you do at that point. You can
- 48:33say, you know what, I give up this idea
- 48:36I have, or you say, let me back myself
- 48:40up and go embrace and do something with
- 48:42it.
- 48:43So, that was the second decision, but
- 48:45you see the the trend here. All comes
- 48:47down to how do you make sure that when
- 48:50an opportunity is presented,
- 48:53you take it. And you don't take it
- 48:55blindly. Like, if you think about it, we
- 48:57had prepared for it, like
- 49:00even going to my first transition, I had
- 49:02studied a lot about product and
- 49:05marketing, even though I was in
- 49:07engineering. So, when an opportunity
- 49:09presented itself, I was prepared. And
- 49:11that point, you have to, you know, back
- 49:13yourself and say, I'm going to go for
- 49:15it. There is no half measure. Same thing
- 49:17when TI said, this is not an area that
- 49:20they want to invest because it was too
- 49:22niche, it was again a moment where you
- 49:25say, you know what, I believe in this
- 49:26concept
- 49:28wholeheartedly. I prepared for it by
- 49:31taking on different, you know, general
- 49:33management roles, and so on. And then
- 49:36you you transition. So, the point I'm
- 49:39trying to make is that all of you will
- 49:41be presented with moments like this.
- 49:44And as long as you're able to like have
- 49:46the conviction to to go and do what you
- 49:49want, you'll be wildly successful, you
- 49:52know, way more successful than I have
- 49:54been.
- 49:58Go ahead, Dhanush.
- 50:01>> Yeah, we have Dhanush.
- 50:03Dhanush, you have a question?
- 50:08>> Hello. Hello.
- 50:09>> Ah, Dhanush, yes.
- 50:11>> Ah, yes yes, sir. This is Dhanush. So,
- 50:14sir, I'm in first year in CSE, studying
- 50:16in CSE.
- 50:17>> It's echoing, Dhanush.
- 50:21Yeah, tell me.
- 50:29>> Go ahead, Dhanush. We can hear you. Go
- 50:31ahead.
- 50:32>> Unmute yourself.
- 50:37>> Hello.
- 50:38>> Yes.
- 50:39>> Yes.
- 50:39>> Yes, tell me.
- 50:40>> Ah, yes yes. Ah, I'm Dhanush from first
- 50:43year in CSE college and I'm near ice.
- 50:46Ah, so I wanted to know like I wanted
- 50:48one suggestion like where people people
- 50:50are telling me to focus more on AI and
- 50:52fundamental stuff.
- 50:54So, I'm so confused in being first year
- 50:56this much I know I can't take and so
- 50:58what would you suggest me like one
- 50:59thing?
- 51:03>> So, first of all,
- 51:06um
- 51:06don't feel alone, okay? There is um a
- 51:09generation of kids that are um that are
- 51:13um trying to grapple and they're caught
- 51:15between the um the industry transition
- 51:18that's happening around AI.
- 51:20Um my suggestion to you and others in a
- 51:23similar boat is that um you know, think
- 51:26of AI as a tool. Your foundational
- 51:29learning is still extremely valuable.
- 51:33So, if you like uh programming or I
- 51:36don't know what field you want to
- 51:37pursue, but um
- 51:40you know, my one suggestion would be is
- 51:42that
- 51:43um
- 51:44in India this is done correctly where
- 51:46you have the computer science
- 51:48engineering where you are not just
- 51:51learning software as in just higher
- 51:54level application program, but you're
- 51:56learning the foundation of of computer
- 51:58architecture or computer networking or
- 52:02you know, various aspects of programming
- 52:04languages and all that, right? So, those
- 52:06are still extremely relevant skills
- 52:09because end of the day, those are
- 52:11foundation skills. It's like learning
- 52:13the alphabets of the language. So,
- 52:16continue to pursue that. What I would
- 52:19suggest though is that if you are in,
- 52:22you know, interested in like application
- 52:24level programming, then that whole
- 52:27domain is going to go through a
- 52:28significant transformation in the next,
- 52:31you know, whatever, right? 2 to 5 years.
- 52:33So, the best way to to do that is stay
- 52:37connected. There are a lot of online
- 52:40places where you can learn about how
- 52:43software programming is changing or
- 52:46how's how are some of the tools being,
- 52:48you know, developed differently using
- 52:51AI. So, make sure that you're you're
- 52:55keeping yourself updated because end of
- 52:58the day, you will get a job. You will
- 53:00have a great career
- 53:02as long as you know the foundational
- 53:04skills of various aspects of computer
- 53:07architecture and so on and then you are
- 53:09very diligently learning the new tools
- 53:12and then you are supplementing that with
- 53:14like some hands-on stuff, whether it's
- 53:16through internship and so on, you know,
- 53:18you will be totally fine. Don't don't
- 53:20feel lost or confused. Just stay focused
- 53:24on the foundational stuff and the rest
- 53:26of it,
- 53:27you know, it will come to you. Just make
- 53:29sure that you don't just put your head,
- 53:31you know, cover your head in in the sand
- 53:33and just pretend like you know, you're
- 53:37that nothing is happening around you.
- 53:38Understand that the world is changing,
- 53:41but be aware of the changes and react
- 53:43accordingly.
- 53:49And one of the things that we do in
- 53:51Asteer which probably we'll also include
- 53:54in MCE is today we go to all the all the
- 53:58bits
- 53:59and and some of the IITs where we do
- 54:02hackathons, we do hands-on training to
- 54:06kids about you know, the different AI
- 54:09tools that are coming. We give talks. We
- 54:12of course bring in a whole lot of
- 54:14interns. And at least in Asteer for
- 54:16every three employees we have an intern.
- 54:19So you can imagine we we over index on
- 54:22internship and and new college grads. I
- 54:25don't believe currently we are doing
- 54:27that with MCE. So we'll try and make
- 54:29sure that we include MCE
- 54:32as a place that we will do all that.
- 54:36>> Yeah, thank you for that Sanjay.
- 54:38This
- 54:40Yes, Sanjay. I was the other day
- 54:42talking to you about conducting
- 54:44hackathon at MCE.
- 54:46Also the internship. Thanks for
- 54:48mentioning that.
- 54:52>> Yeah, no worries.
- 54:53>> Yeah. And also
- 54:55we have question another two questions,
- 54:57but I feel that you have already
- 54:59answered that. Like building long-term
- 55:02financial freedom. What strategies and
- 55:04financial habits would you recommend to
- 55:06young engineers who are inspired to
- 55:08achieve financial freedom
- 55:10early in their careers. You have already
- 55:12told your journey that you
- 55:16>> So
- 55:17I I want to I want to make a couple of
- 55:18points on that if it's okay because I
- 55:20think it's
- 55:21I mean whoever asked this question here
- 55:24>> It's from the that's from the kids, the
- 55:26students.
- 55:26>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's it's a credit
- 55:28to you guys to start thinking about
- 55:30financial independence.
- 55:32Uh
- 55:34See, um Um
- 55:35you know, I used to work in different
- 55:38places uh just to make sure that um
- 55:42that you are you know, it's a it's
- 55:44actually very if I think about my
- 55:46entrepreneurial journey, it's amazing
- 55:49how I can always trace a certain
- 55:51situation that I'm in right now to
- 55:53something I did during my school days or
- 55:56college days.
- 55:58You know, um for example, whether it's a
- 56:00negotiating skill. Like in India, you
- 56:02negotiate for everything.
- 56:04Same exact the the basics of negotiation
- 56:07does not change you know, when you get
- 56:10into a professional setup or when you're
- 56:12an entrepreneur. You know, how do you
- 56:14position something? What's the um
- 56:16uh the entry point? So, similarly with
- 56:19financial independence and how you go
- 56:21about like uh doing stuff. Um you have
- 56:24to start it during the college days, but
- 56:26make sure that you know, don't overthink
- 56:28about it meaning prioritize learning. Um
- 56:32You know, sometimes you could you could
- 56:34get carried away by earning few few
- 56:36rupees um early on, but that takes time
- 56:40away. If that you know, meaning don't
- 56:42prioritize the money part, prioritize
- 56:45the learning part at the stage that you
- 56:47are. Um you can always make money as
- 56:50long as you're learning things in the
- 56:52right way and you're equipping yourself.
- 56:54Uh but at same time, it's fun to get a
- 56:56little money on on your hand if you are
- 56:58able to um
- 56:59as part of your learning translate that
- 57:01into some money that you can use for uh
- 57:04further enhancing or just having fun.
- 57:08>> Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Sanjay uh
- 57:13It's really I feeling amazing. I still
- 57:16remember those days when you Rupa were
- 57:18moving around together. I always felt
- 57:22that as I told you earlier also that
- 57:24great brains are moving together and
- 57:27it's
- 57:28it's really come true. That
- 57:31I remember those days where Rupa Nayak,
- 57:33Rupa B, you remember I think, Shaila and
- 57:37uh
- 57:37>> Yeah.
- 57:37>> Uma was sitting in the first bench, me
- 57:39at the second bench with Anu.
- 57:42We were there together. Yeah, they were
- 57:44always being the first, Rupa B and Rupa
- 57:47Nayak, always.
- 57:49It's lovely to see that uh the same
- 57:51intelligence and curiosity has continued
- 57:54to evolve with the times. Uh great. I
- 57:57always used to feel like yeah, great
- 57:59brains, but we used to feel that you'd
- 58:01be a good uh software developer of
- 58:04of that kind, but I never imagined you
- 58:07being such a great entrepreneur.
- 58:09>> Uh-huh.
- 58:10>> Very nice getting the awards. Still
- 58:12great.
- 58:14It's lovely to see.
- 58:15>> Thank you. Thank you.
- 58:16>> Yeah,
- 58:17I could see you when I question I have a
- 58:22Hi, ma'am. I have a question about how
- 58:24to get internships. Like before it was
- 58:26easy to get into internships and hiring
- 58:28process, but now it is it's so difficult
- 58:31to get into companies. Any advices on
- 58:33this, please?
- 58:35Okay, I think he had uh yeah, one guy
- 58:38called Rahul has popped out that
- 58:40question.
- 58:42>> Yeah, so
- 58:44again, I I mean, to be very candid, I'm
- 58:46not uh fully aware of how internships
- 58:49work in India, um but I can tell you
- 58:53what we do in Estera India. So, we have
- 58:55offices in Bangalore,
- 58:57uh Hyderabad, and Ahmedabad.
- 59:00>> Okay.
- 59:00>> So, we are very intentional about
- 59:03internship.
- 59:04So, if you guys are interested, um
- 59:07you know, later on through uh we can
- 59:09share some links where you can apply.
- 59:12Um
- 59:13uh but in general, you know, I would say
- 59:18um
- 59:18do some pre-work as in like, you know,
- 59:22during the during the school year
- 59:24college year, um don't wait for
- 59:27preparing or applying for internship
- 59:30once the the time comes. Like, make
- 59:32yourself relevant and stand out. And
- 59:34that you can do by, you know, obviously,
- 59:38um, not just doing well in your grades,
- 59:40but also learning about different
- 59:43things, um, whether it is, uh,
- 59:45you know, through online or or other
- 59:47forums. If you're able to put yourself
- 59:50in a, um, situation where when the time
- 59:53comes for an internship opportunity, uh,
- 59:56your resume pops out because you have
- 59:59credentials or you've done things beyond
- 1:00:02standard coursework. That gives a very
- 1:00:04good signal to folks that, "Hey, you are
- 1:00:06not just someone that's just trying to
- 1:00:08cruise by. You're willing to do
- 1:00:10something more than that." And that is
- 1:00:13one way in which I I would suggest you
- 1:00:15stand out. And then opportunities are
- 1:00:18always going to be limited. Competition
- 1:00:20will be high. So, and you might not get
- 1:00:23internships, whatever, right? But it's
- 1:00:25okay. I I want to make sure that you
- 1:00:27guys understand the stage that you are
- 1:00:29in life. You know, you have to learn to
- 1:00:33to stay in the fight because you have
- 1:00:35time on your side. Even if you stumble,
- 1:00:37you fall, you don't get something,
- 1:00:39you'll always get something, um, beyond
- 1:00:42that, okay? So, you have to make sure
- 1:00:43that you stay engaged. And that is
- 1:00:46probably the most important thing you
- 1:00:48can do. If you stop being engaged, if
- 1:00:50you stop learning, if you start feeling
- 1:00:52like the world is coming to an end
- 1:00:54because you didn't get an internship,
- 1:00:56then, you know, you are simply missing
- 1:00:58out.
- 1:01:01>> I think, uh, since I have some idea
- 1:01:03about what's happening here, uh, Rahul,
- 1:01:05you can get in touch with me. I can help
- 1:01:07because I'm already helping few of the
- 1:01:09MC students.
- 1:01:17>> I I think, Sanjay, thank you. Thank you
- 1:01:19for everything. And I I we are at the
- 1:01:21close of the hour
- 1:01:23and it was a lovely session and
- 1:01:24brilliant. I enjoyed every bit of it.
- 1:01:27Gita madam, can you uh huh?
- 1:01:29>> Yes, sir.
- 1:01:32Yeah, I liked it, sir. Really, we
- 1:01:34enjoyed the whole session. 1 hour I was
- 1:01:36just thinking, yeah, it's already 1
- 1:01:38hour.
- 1:01:40>> Sanjay, one one one point I probably
- 1:01:42it's not a debate of debate at this
- 1:01:44point of time.
- 1:01:46See, for me one issue with AI, you know,
- 1:01:48I I work on the on the product side
- 1:01:49also. For me issue with AI which I'm
- 1:01:51feeling how it is different from rest of
- 1:01:54the other
- 1:01:55internet or
- 1:01:57computer or any of the other thing is
- 1:01:59here sometimes I believe that, you know,
- 1:02:01like the way you mentioned, the
- 1:02:03intelligence is getting outsourced.
- 1:02:05So far either knowledge was getting
- 1:02:06outsourced, but AI my worry is that, you
- 1:02:08know,
- 1:02:09like the way you said, probably with the
- 1:02:11agents could replace 50% of your
- 1:02:13workforce.
- 1:02:14Probably that is something which may
- 1:02:16have a much more profound impact than
- 1:02:18what
- 1:02:19probably people are thinking today. So
- 1:02:20that's my worry with the AI part. I
- 1:02:23don't know where it is going to lead.
- 1:02:25That's
- 1:02:27>> Yeah.
- 1:02:28No, I think, see, that's what I'm
- 1:02:29saying. That's a reality. I know you're
- 1:02:31getting worried or
- 1:02:33but you know, I I'm just being candid to
- 1:02:36all of you guys. That is what's going to
- 1:02:38happen. But the question becomes what do
- 1:02:40you do about it, right? Um
- 1:02:42I mean, same thing I'm sure that
- 1:02:45people worried when um
- 1:02:47when
- 1:02:48you know, yeah, computer came or you
- 1:02:50know, trains replaced horses, whatever,
- 1:02:52right?
- 1:02:53But that's been the history of mankind.
- 1:02:56So I do believe that we will persevere
- 1:02:58and figure things out, but the most
- 1:03:01important thing is to stay engaged. If
- 1:03:03you are, you know, if you don't, then
- 1:03:05you are simply becoming irrelevant on
- 1:03:07day one.
- 1:03:08So I do believe that there will be
- 1:03:10changes. There will be new jobs created,
- 1:03:12new kinds of jobs than than what you see
- 1:03:15today.
- 1:03:16Um you know, medical research and other
- 1:03:19things would become lot more efficient.
- 1:03:21So, but in general, I think there will
- 1:03:24be new openings that will come up in the
- 1:03:26next, uh, let's say 2 to 5 years. You
- 1:03:28just have to be ready and prepared when
- 1:03:31these openings come up and if you don't
- 1:03:33know how to use and program and create
- 1:03:35AI agents, then you're not ready and you
- 1:03:37will simply get overlooked.
- 1:03:42>> I think Anand has a question,
- 1:03:44Gita madam.
- 1:03:45Anand, I think I saw a question from
- 1:03:46you.
- 1:03:48>> Yeah,
- 1:03:49there are two hands up, sir.
- 1:03:51>> Okay.
- 1:03:51>> Yeah, I don't have a question, but if I
- 1:03:53have, uh, if I have the permission of
- 1:03:55Sanjay, I just want to share just two
- 1:03:57things. And I'm 100% sure Sanjay has
- 1:04:00done both of these things even though he
- 1:04:01didn't, uh, address it.
- 1:04:04One is,
- 1:04:05please have fun while doing all these
- 1:04:08things. Don't don't lose Don't lose the
- 1:04:10larger things of life that Don't make it
- 1:04:13as a as a running on a treadmill. Yes,
- 1:04:15you're running, you're sweating, not
- 1:04:16going anywhere. Have fun with it. And
- 1:04:19I'm sure 100,000 times sure that Sanjay
- 1:04:22has had fun all along. Otherwise, he can
- 1:04:24never be successful.
- 1:04:26And the second important thing to have
- 1:04:28fun is please don't neglect the health
- 1:04:31of your mind.
- 1:04:33Unless your mind is healthy, including
- 1:04:36the body, but unless the mind is healthy
- 1:04:38with good habits,
- 1:04:40you cannot have fun and you cannot have
- 1:04:42success. And I'm 100,000% sure that
- 1:04:45Sanjay has kept his mind healthy all
- 1:04:48along. Otherwise,
- 1:04:50his his radiance on his face and his
- 1:04:52smile tells that he he would never have
- 1:04:54been successful.
- 1:04:56So, please don't neglect these two.
- 1:04:58>> Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:05:00>> Very good advice, sir.
- 1:05:02>> Yeah, you know, good point. I mean, I
- 1:05:04think just quickly I would say two
- 1:05:05points, right? One is that,
- 1:05:07uh, exactly like how it was told. See, I
- 1:05:11think you don't view life as an as an
- 1:05:13end goal or a finish line. It's a
- 1:05:15journey. Every day you need to learn how
- 1:05:18to enjoy it. Doesn't matter where you
- 1:05:20are. So, as long as you're enjoying the
- 1:05:22journey, you'll always be fine. And the
- 1:05:24mental health piece of it is absolutely
- 1:05:26true.
- 1:05:27Um meaning your ability to
- 1:05:31to to
- 1:05:32deal with several things that come like
- 1:05:34on a daily basis. For me,
- 1:05:36you know, I'm dealing with the hardest
- 1:05:38problems in the company just given the
- 1:05:40role that I have. And the way it comes
- 1:05:43down to is your mental ability to sort
- 1:05:46of have the temperament, have the
- 1:05:47patience, have the fortitude to deal
- 1:05:50with it in a in a calm and composed way.
- 1:05:53And that requires um
- 1:05:55means I'm sure you are all dealing with
- 1:05:57your own set of challenges.
- 1:05:59Um
- 1:06:00but I think
- 1:06:01what becomes important is how calm can
- 1:06:04you stay in those situations. Um
- 1:06:08you know, for me it comes down to every
- 1:06:10day I need to reset myself. Like I every
- 1:06:13day I wake up at 5:30, I work out, I do
- 1:06:16my yoga,
- 1:06:17um get ready for the day, meaning the
- 1:06:20discipline of managing your mental
- 1:06:22health, your physical health,
- 1:06:25and and you know, of course pursuing
- 1:06:28whatever your career ambition is. All of
- 1:06:30those things become important. And if
- 1:06:32you don't have those things, then you
- 1:06:34know, you can't succeed. And just one
- 1:06:36quick analogy I'll give is
- 1:06:38think about this tool. You need you need
- 1:06:40minimum of three legs. Okay? And and one
- 1:06:43leg is your health. The other leg could
- 1:06:46be your profession. And the third leg
- 1:06:48could be your relationship. Each three
- 1:06:50things are important. Otherwise, your
- 1:06:52life will simply come crashing down.
- 1:06:58>> Rightly said, Sanjay.
- 1:07:02Any more questions?
- 1:07:04>> Yes, ma'am. There are Pratixa had a
- 1:07:06question and Arun
- 1:07:08was also raising his hands. I think we
- 1:07:10can take two more questions, last two
- 1:07:11questions.
- 1:07:12>> Last two questions, please.
- 1:07:14>> Hey, uh
- 1:07:19Hi Sanjay. Hello Geeta.
- 1:07:22Hey, it's great to see you. I'm a
- 1:07:25I'm an alum I'm an alumnus as well and
- 1:07:27uh
- 1:07:28happy to be here and I've been listening
- 1:07:30to Sanjay and all of you guys. It's a
- 1:07:33really a
- 1:07:34a moment of
- 1:07:36um what we should say uh great
- 1:07:38belonging, right? So,
- 1:07:40uh
- 1:07:41I think one good point which Sanjay
- 1:07:43touched is um
- 1:07:45how prepared you will be in the next um
- 1:07:47two to five years. So, my probably my
- 1:07:50thinking I'm sure my senior and my
- 1:07:52brother's classmate Kiran a pro in in
- 1:07:56industry and then in this uh
- 1:07:58um development uh
- 1:08:01focus he's been having. One thought I
- 1:08:03kind of
- 1:08:04wanted to say is
- 1:08:06how can our syllabi cover this aspect,
- 1:08:10right? Right? Like you talked about
- 1:08:11hackathons, you talked about
- 1:08:12internships, etc. Of course, that is
- 1:08:15like a
- 1:08:16have hackathons happen always and during
- 1:08:19the curriculum as well it happens. The
- 1:08:21internships normally are
- 1:08:23um mostly interspersed um
- 1:08:25across your third year, fourth year, and
- 1:08:27so on. And even post the um college um
- 1:08:31passout period. But to be in that uh
- 1:08:34let's say the game of preparedness. So,
- 1:08:36can we do something in the
- 1:08:38uh within the college times or within
- 1:08:40these hackathons?
- 1:08:41What can be brought in as some
- 1:08:43activities and kind of
- 1:08:45things which make students think about
- 1:08:48yes, AI will
- 1:08:50come in in in a big scale.
- 1:08:52Uh what is that I can be prepared with?
- 1:08:54So, in those in those lines we can think
- 1:08:56of introducing some activities or even
- 1:08:59thought process, right? So,
- 1:09:00Yeah.
- 1:09:01Hackathons to prepare you guys to do
- 1:09:04that. Uh How prepared you will be for
- 1:09:06those situations. Maybe those kind of
- 1:09:07ideas could be good to develop Gita. So,
- 1:09:10that's what I wanted to say. Yeah.
- 1:09:12>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:09:13We are in the process, sir. And also I
- 1:09:15have asked support from Sanjay
- 1:09:19regarding that.
- 1:09:20And one thing audience,
- 1:09:24I had kept it as a special moment to
- 1:09:27appreciate Sanjay about his EY World
- 1:09:30Entrepreneur of the Year 2026.
- 1:09:33He was honored at the prestigious global
- 1:09:36award ceremony held in Monaco in May
- 1:09:392026. Am I right, Sanjay?
- 1:09:42>> You're right.
- 1:09:42>> We are very proud of you at the May
- 1:09:442026. Very proud.
- 1:09:47Uh yeah. And please convey my wishes to
- 1:09:51Roopa Naik.
- 1:09:53I think she's sleeping.
- 1:09:55>> She just walked by. Yes. No, I will let
- 1:09:58her know. Thank you so much. Yes.
- 1:10:00>> I now probably conclude this. Is that
- 1:10:03fine? Or we'll take up one more
- 1:10:05question. Any more questions?
- 1:10:09I think no.
- 1:10:11Fine.
- 1:10:12I now request Dr. Mohan Alagappa to
- 1:10:15formally give a
- 1:10:17thanks.
- 1:10:17>> Pratiksha was there with a question.
- 1:10:19>> Okay. Fine. Okay. Fine. Okay.
- 1:10:22Fine.
- 1:10:23>> you can please ask.
- 1:10:25>> Hello, sir. If you don't mind, I have a
- 1:10:27question, please.
- 1:10:29>> Absolutely. No mind at all.
- 1:10:33>> Um sir, since you've been both an
- 1:10:35entrepreneur and an engineer,
- 1:10:37so let's take an example of like Elon
- 1:10:39Musk with a concept of making reusable
- 1:10:42space rockets. He was mocked then
- 1:10:45decades ago. But now he's made it into
- 1:10:47reality. And just like that, how do you
- 1:10:49figure out if the idea is really Is it
- 1:10:53If it is feasible and possible and if
- 1:10:55it's just fictional? how do we recognize
- 1:10:58that?
- 1:11:00>> That's a great question and a deep
- 1:11:02question.
- 1:11:03Um
- 1:11:04See, this is what defines an
- 1:11:07entrepreneur, right? So, you can be an
- 1:11:09engineer, which is great career and all
- 1:11:11that. Um
- 1:11:13In entrepreneurship, what happens is
- 1:11:15that you're able to manifest the future.
- 1:11:18Um
- 1:11:19and you have the um
- 1:11:21the um execution um focus or execution
- 1:11:26capability to deliver what you are um
- 1:11:29stating as if as a future state.
- 1:11:32So, it you know, lot of times it's easy
- 1:11:35to say um that, "Hey, you know, you want
- 1:11:38to use reusable rockets or you want to
- 1:11:41fly to Mars someday." There many, many
- 1:11:43people that that say that. Of course,
- 1:11:45there is lot of movies about things like
- 1:11:48that, right?
- 1:11:50But, really I think that is less
- 1:11:51important than what Elon has been able
- 1:11:54to do um as part of how to execute and
- 1:11:58deliver to that mission.
- 1:12:00Meaning, um that is probably the hardest
- 1:12:03part um to achieve.
- 1:12:05I've had the opportunity to meet Elon
- 1:12:07few times, but what I find amazing about
- 1:12:11him um is
- 1:12:13you know, it's not those big statements
- 1:12:15he makes, but then what does he do after
- 1:12:17that?
- 1:12:18Right? Uh and that really comes down to
- 1:12:21the um the execution of that vision, the
- 1:12:25people that he puts together, the
- 1:12:27resources that he uh he puts into it,
- 1:12:30and that single-minded commitment to
- 1:12:32that one goal. Because invariably, there
- 1:12:35will be a a million things that will
- 1:12:38tell you that it cannot be done.
- 1:12:41But, the spirit of entrepreneurship is
- 1:12:43is simply that. How do you
- 1:12:46um how do you react when someone tells
- 1:12:49you it cannot be done? Whether it is a
- 1:12:51technical challenge, it could be a
- 1:12:53commercial challenge, it could be a you
- 1:12:55know, some legal challenge or whatever
- 1:12:58it is.
- 1:12:59And that is the essence of
- 1:13:00entrepreneurship is to basically say
- 1:13:03when someone says it cannot be done for
- 1:13:05whatever reason, what are the actions
- 1:13:08you take and you transform that no to an
- 1:13:11to an S
- 1:13:13either based on your intellectual
- 1:13:15capability of you or your team, your
- 1:13:17perseverance of it, your ability to like
- 1:13:20break down that no into a small set of
- 1:13:23no's and then you tackle each one of
- 1:13:25them and convert that into S. So, that
- 1:13:27is probably the bigger lesson to be
- 1:13:30learned when someone like Elon or or
- 1:13:32Steve Jobs when he was around say when
- 1:13:35it comes to entrepreneurship and that's
- 1:13:37really the crux of it. If you want to be
- 1:13:40a great entrepreneur, you need to
- 1:13:43A have the audacity to have a grand
- 1:13:46vision and then you need to have the
- 1:13:48discipline of um of delivering to that
- 1:13:51vision through a series of
- 1:13:54acting actions and activities
- 1:13:57where when the whole world is saying no,
- 1:13:59you're saying yes, it can be done and
- 1:14:02you keep staying true to the mission and
- 1:14:04that's that's what I would say and and
- 1:14:06that's you know, really the
- 1:14:09what what you should be doing as well.
- 1:14:12Talk is easy. Ideas are cheap. I'll be
- 1:14:15very candid with you. Everyone has
- 1:14:17ideas. Everyone has money as well. The
- 1:14:20key to success is how can you um stay
- 1:14:25true to the mission, execute and deliver
- 1:14:28and not get distracted by the next shiny
- 1:14:30object or get distracted by what others
- 1:14:33are doing, but simply have the
- 1:14:35conviction to plow forward and get the
- 1:14:38stuff done.
- 1:14:44>> Is Is clear Pratiksha?
- 1:14:48>> Uh yes, sir. Thank you. It was really
- 1:14:49insightful, yeah. Thank you.
- 1:14:52>> And one day you'll be you'll be an
- 1:14:53entrepreneur, I can sense from your
- 1:14:55voice. So, go big, okay? Don't go half
- 1:14:58measure.
- 1:14:59>> Yeah, you're right, Sanjay.
- 1:15:01Thank you, sir.
- 1:15:03Yeah.
- 1:15:05Yes. Thank you, Sanjay. Thank you for
- 1:15:07giving us more than 1 hour. We had You
- 1:15:10had promised for 6:00 to 7:00. It is
- 1:15:12already 7:15.
- 1:15:13>> It's It's 6:00 45 a.m. here. I have all
- 1:15:16day, but yes, no, thank you so much for
- 1:15:18hosting me. Thank you for uh
- 1:15:21for uh all the kind words that you
- 1:15:22shared. Thank you for the questions and
- 1:15:24to all the folks that are online. Um um
- 1:15:27you know, I I would leave you with this
- 1:15:29thought, which is um uh make your own
- 1:15:32story. Yeah.
- 1:15:35>> Yeah. Give the vote of thanks.
- 1:15:37>> Okay.
- 1:15:39>> Mohana?
- 1:15:50Mohan Lakshmi?
- 1:16:03>> Okay, I'll take it as a vote of thanks.
- 1:16:05It's It's fine.
- 1:16:06>> No, no, no, she is speaking. It's not
- 1:16:08That's what I was trying to
- 1:16:11It's not audible.
- 1:16:13It's not audible here.
- 1:16:16No.
- 1:16:35>> Geetha madam, you can thank her on her
- 1:16:37behalf.
- 1:16:38>> Okay, sure.
- 1:16:40I thought you
- 1:16:41>> Am I audible now?
- 1:16:42>> But Sanjay, it was a really really
- 1:16:44privilege to have you.
- 1:16:46>> Yeah.
- 1:16:47>> So we are actually we are very happy and
- 1:16:49honored to have you with us because I we
- 1:16:53probably I think from the past 8 to 10
- 1:16:56months I have heard Gita ma'am speaking
- 1:16:58about you and Shivu Koteshwar sir and
- 1:17:00she always
- 1:17:02because she herself wants to see our
- 1:17:04students and our college
- 1:17:06build that entrepreneurial ecosystem in
- 1:17:09the entire region. So she always start
- 1:17:11started telling wow it is so nice to see
- 1:17:14them my classmates growing into global
- 1:17:16leaders. And today hearing to you
- 1:17:18hearing to your journey and the way you
- 1:17:21simply and you just put out things
- 1:17:24in a very simple manner and in a
- 1:17:27all the practical things also
- 1:17:29you explain in a very nice manner sir.
- 1:17:31So you also told like one thing which I
- 1:17:34like the most was uh you told that you
- 1:17:37told our student Dhanush don't feel lost
- 1:17:39or confused by how technology is
- 1:17:42changing. So you wanted you want
- 1:17:44students to keep the fundamental strong.
- 1:17:45I think this is something that everyone
- 1:17:47should
- 1:17:48keep in mind.
- 1:17:50Stay updated and gain hands-on
- 1:17:52experience. And your journey of your the
- 1:17:55two examples of your transition that you
- 1:17:57gave are are really something that even
- 1:18:00we have to think about. So when an
- 1:18:02opportunity arises how whether we are
- 1:18:04able to take that risk and
- 1:18:07decide upon our take a decision upon our
- 1:18:09thoughts and move forward or give up and
- 1:18:12stay back. So these two examples were
- 1:18:15really motivating for us.
- 1:18:17So and thank you for
- 1:18:19connecting so early in the morning. I
- 1:18:21can see the sun rising behind you.
- 1:18:25>> Yes. No, thank you thank you.
- 1:18:28No, thank you so much.
- 1:18:32>> You will not believe how
- 1:18:34Kitti sir has been a part of this
- 1:18:36session
- 1:18:38always there whenever we have bridging
- 1:18:40generations and this is the second
- 1:18:42season in the sixth episode. So, thank
- 1:18:45you Kitty sir for always being with us.
- 1:18:47We totally appreciate it and special
- 1:18:50thanks to
- 1:18:50>> thank me Mohan, it's okay.
- 1:18:52It's always lovely to listen to
- 1:18:53different people, correct?
- 1:18:57>> But we are thankful to you, sir.
- 1:19:00>> Yes.
- 1:19:00>> So, thank you Sanjay sir. Thank you once
- 1:19:02again.
- 1:19:03>> No, thank you. This has been a
- 1:19:05privilege. This has been a privilege. Um
- 1:19:08>> Sometimes you please make time to be at
- 1:19:10MC.
- 1:19:11>> Yes, I would love to and I would like to
- 1:19:13do, you know, um more to to make sure we
- 1:19:17can help everyone there. So, I will talk
- 1:19:19to you separately but at least we'll
- 1:19:22we'll make sure that um
- 1:19:24whatever I can help, uh what Astera can
- 1:19:26help, we will try and make sure that um
- 1:19:29MC um
- 1:19:31grows on. I mean, I learned a lot
- 1:19:33growing up in MC, not just the education
- 1:19:35part but just the fact of how do you
- 1:19:38you know, go through your four years in
- 1:19:40college, just life I would say.
- 1:19:42And that enabled me to get to where I am
- 1:19:45today. So, I'm forever grateful to to
- 1:19:47the to the to the university, to the
- 1:19:49college um and to all the teachers.
- 1:19:52It was good to see uh Mr. Arun there as
- 1:19:54well. Uh he taught me
- 1:19:59He he did teach me programming so I'm
- 1:20:02that got me started but it's also I want
- 1:20:04to say um
- 1:20:05you know,
- 1:20:07it's it's created who I am today and for
- 1:20:09many of you guys listening, I would say
- 1:20:11um you know, um
- 1:20:13make sure that um
- 1:20:15that you take the opportunity. Um don't
- 1:20:18just survive in life, thrive in life,
- 1:20:20dream big, uh work hard and then you all
- 1:20:24will become much bigger entrepreneurs
- 1:20:26than much more successful than what I
- 1:20:28was able to achieve. So, thank Thank
- 1:20:30much.
- 1:20:31>> Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Sanjay.
- 1:20:33>> All right. See you guys. Bye-bye.
- 1:20:35>> Bye.
- 1:20:35>> Bye-bye.
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