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  1. 0:01Sanjay, shall we start?
  2. 0:03>> Absolutely.
  3. 0:04>> Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
  4. 0:07A very good evening to everyone.
  5. 0:09It gives me immense pleasure to welcome
  6. 0:12you all to the sixth episode of Bridging
  7. 0:15Generations Alumni Insights
  8. 0:182.0. This is an initiative of Miri's
  9. 0:21Foundation at Malnad College of
  10. 0:23Engineering, Hassan.
  11. 0:25All about Bridging Generation, it is
  12. 0:27more than just alumni interaction
  13. 0:30series. It is a platform that connects
  14. 0:33the experiences, the achievements of our
  15. 0:36distinguished alumni with the
  16. 0:38aspirations of our young engineers.
  17. 0:42Today's session is particularly special
  18. 0:45and personally meaningful to me.
  19. 0:47Our distinguished guest, Mr.
  20. 0:50Sanjay Gajendra, is not only a proud
  21. 0:53alumnus of 1996 batch of Computer
  22. 0:56Science and Engineering at Malnad
  23. 0:59College of Engineering, but also my
  24. 1:01classmate. To add upon, his life
  25. 1:04partner, Mrs. Roopa Nayak, is also my
  26. 1:07classmate. It is indeed a wonderful
  27. 1:10feeling to welcome someone with whom I
  28. 1:13shared my college days and the journey
  29. 1:16of engineering education and to see him
  30. 1:19today as a successful global technology
  31. 1:23leader and entrepreneur.
  32. 1:26Yeah. Uh Sanjay, it is truly a proud and
  33. 1:31memorable moment for me to introduce you
  34. 1:34to our students and our faculty.
  35. 1:37From being classmates at MCE to
  36. 1:40witnessing your remarkable journey
  37. 1:43in the global semiconductor industry,
  38. 1:46it is really inspiring to see how far
  39. 1:49your vision, dedication, and hard work
  40. 1:52have taken you.
  41. 1:53Yes, Mr. Sanjay Gajendra is currently
  42. 1:57the president, chief operating officer,
  43. 2:00and co-founder of Astera Labs, a
  44. 2:03semiconductor technology company
  45. 2:06headquartered in Silicon Valley,
  46. 2:08California, USA.
  47. 2:10Astera Labs develops advanced
  48. 2:13semiconductor-based connectivity
  49. 2:15solutions that are critical to modern
  50. 2:18cloud and artificial intelligence
  51. 2:21infrastructure.
  52. 2:22With nearly three decades of
  53. 2:25professional experience, Mr. Sanjay has
  54. 2:28built an outstanding career spanning
  55. 2:31software engineering, semiconductor
  56. 2:34technology, product management, business
  57. 2:37development, and corporate leadership.
  58. 2:40He began his professional journey at
  59. 2:43Wipro Technologies in 1996,
  60. 2:46subsequently moving to National
  61. 2:49Semiconductor,
  62. 2:51where he held very important roles in
  63. 2:53software engineering and project product
  64. 2:56management.
  65. 2:58Uh later, he joined Texas Instruments,
  66. 3:01where he served in senior leadership
  67. 3:03positions, including director of product
  68. 3:07management and general manager and
  69. 3:10product line director for high-speed
  70. 3:13signal conditioning.
  71. 3:15During his tenure at Texas Instruments,
  72. 3:17he led multidisciplinary
  73. 3:20teams across silicon design, product
  74. 3:23engineering, marketing, and business
  75. 3:26operations. His leadership contributed
  76. 3:29to the development and launch of more
  77. 3:32than 50 products, along with new
  78. 3:35business initiatives that generated
  79. 3:38hundreds of millions of dollars in
  80. 3:40revenue.
  81. 3:41And the good news is in 2018,
  82. 3:45he co-founded Astera Labs, taking on the
  83. 3:49challenge of building a technology
  84. 3:51company focused on solving critical
  85. 3:54connectivity challenges in the rapidly
  86. 3:57evolving cloud and AI ecosystem. To add
  87. 4:01on, he also holds a master's degree in
  88. 4:04engineering management from the
  89. 4:07University of California Sorry, from the
  90. 4:10University of Colorado Boulder with
  91. 4:14an emphasis on research and development
  92. 4:17and business management.
  93. 4:19Yes, what makes this journey inspiring
  94. 4:22is his belief that talented people,
  95. 4:24disciplined execution, and game-changing
  96. 4:28innovation are essential ingredients for
  97. 4:32sustained business success.
  98. 4:35Sanjay, I feel an immense sense of pride
  99. 4:38in your achievements. Your journey is a
  100. 4:40reminder to our students that the
  101. 4:43foundations laid at MCE can lead to
  102. 4:47extraordinary accomplishments on the
  103. 4:49global stage.
  104. 4:51Your presence today makes this episode
  105. 4:54of Bridging Generations even more
  106. 4:56meaningful as it truly represents the
  107. 4:59spirit of reconnecting with our roots,
  108. 5:03celebrating the achievements of our
  109. 5:05alumni, and inspiring the next
  110. 5:07generation. On behalf of Meenakshi
  111. 5:09Foundation and Malnad College of
  112. 5:12Engineering, I extend a very warm and
  113. 5:15heartfelt welcome to you. Sanjay,
  114. 5:18welcome back to your MCE family. The
  115. 5:21stage is yours. Thank you.
  116. 5:25>> Great. Now, thank you so much. That's so
  117. 5:27kind of you. All the things you said,
  118. 5:29it's a it's a pleasure both uh
  119. 5:32to reconnect with you, uh Geetha Kiran,
  120. 5:35considering uh all the time we spent
  121. 5:37together uh in Hassan. It's also great
  122. 5:40to uh talk to all of you who have uh
  123. 5:43who are connected on the call today.
  124. 5:46It's been a journey, but uh the journey
  125. 5:49started in MCH as in
  126. 5:51So, it's a it's my privilege to be to
  127. 5:54talking to all of you.
  128. 5:58>> Thank you.
  129. 6:11You want to present anything?
  130. 6:14Can be presenting?
  131. 6:16>> I wouldn't be presenting. I can talk.
  132. 6:19>> Um
  133. 6:20>> Yeah, that's very nice.
  134. 6:22>> Yeah.
  135. 6:23And maybe
  136. 6:24let me kick off by giving a little bit
  137. 6:26more for folks that are listening on um
  138. 6:29on on
  139. 6:31the journey that you described. Um
  140. 6:34You know, for me um
  141. 6:37obviously started in Hassan.
  142. 6:39I did my computer science.
  143. 6:41I think many of you um
  144. 6:43probably um
  145. 6:45have this feeling. Um when I was growing
  146. 6:47up, the primary thing around um
  147. 6:51that I wanted to do was that I did not
  148. 6:53want to work for a services company in
  149. 6:55India.
  150. 6:56Um I always was passionate about
  151. 7:00products.
  152. 7:01And um
  153. 7:03had the opportunity, of course, to start
  154. 7:05my career in Wipro.
  155. 7:08Made sure that I did not work on
  156. 7:11services part of Wipro.
  157. 7:13And started off with a with a product
  158. 7:16that that Wipro was building.
  159. 7:19But in general, my journey has been
  160. 7:21around uh how to
  161. 7:24make sure that um
  162. 7:26I'm putting myself in situations where
  163. 7:29we are um
  164. 7:31working on on technology that results in
  165. 7:35um
  166. 7:35in scale when it comes to monetization.
  167. 7:39So, for me, that path was largely by
  168. 7:42looking at companies uh even back then.
  169. 7:46Um companies like Microsoft or Apple
  170. 7:49that worked on products and were able to
  171. 7:52scale themselves not based on just human
  172. 7:56innovation,
  173. 7:58but also about
  174. 8:00being able to monetize by selling
  175. 8:03millions of products.
  176. 8:05So, that was my calling card. The second
  177. 8:08thing that I always wanted to do was to
  178. 8:11make sure that I'm able to uh
  179. 8:15build a company very early on um
  180. 8:18even when I was a little child, I always
  181. 8:21equated entrepreneurship with
  182. 8:23independence.
  183. 8:25And that independence that I sought and
  184. 8:28not having to depend on others
  185. 8:31uh led me to believe that I need to
  186. 8:33start a company someday.
  187. 8:36So,
  188. 8:37the effort that I have done ever since
  189. 8:40even during college days, I used to work
  190. 8:42multiple jobs to be able to not take any
  191. 8:45money from my parents for living
  192. 8:49expenses and so on
  193. 8:51uh during my college days.
  194. 8:53And those were things that also shaped
  195. 8:55me to be able to pursue different
  196. 8:58things. But the second objective that I
  197. 9:00have always pursued was to make sure
  198. 9:03that um
  199. 9:04that the independence that you achieve
  200. 9:07by being an entrepreneur was preserved.
  201. 9:09And thankfully, I was able to do that
  202. 9:12when we started Astera Labs about 10
  203. 9:15years ago.
  204. 9:17That has turned into
  205. 9:19a
  206. 9:20a significant powerhouse in the in the
  207. 9:22AI infrastructure market.
  208. 9:25Nine out of 10 data centers today or if
  209. 9:28you're using Google or Amazon or any of
  210. 9:31the tools,
  211. 9:32there is
  212. 9:33almost a nine out of 10 chance that the
  213. 9:36technology is powered by Estera Labs.
  214. 9:38So, I feel proud about
  215. 9:40um the journey and the impact that we're
  216. 9:42doing.
  217. 9:44The third thing that I would say is uh
  218. 9:46is what we're doing here, which is um to
  219. 9:49make sure that you not only achieve
  220. 9:51individual success
  221. 9:53uh or individual dreams and goals, but
  222. 9:56also make sure that the blessings that
  223. 9:58we have been given or what I have been
  224. 10:00given is shared with others so that the
  225. 10:04path is uh a little bit easier to the
  226. 10:06ones that follow.
  227. 10:08So, I think in in summary, what I would
  228. 10:10say is that um
  229. 10:12uh
  230. 10:13this conversation is great for me
  231. 10:15because it does
  232. 10:17bring
  233. 10:18the circle full full around in terms of
  234. 10:22uh starting in yeah in MCE and picking
  235. 10:26up my initial education there for um
  236. 10:30through the undergrad degree.
  237. 10:32And then growing through a a career that
  238. 10:35spanned different companies and
  239. 10:37different roles,
  240. 10:38but all
  241. 10:39uh all um uh central with the idea of uh
  242. 10:43being independent, being an
  243. 10:44entrepreneur, and to be able to make
  244. 10:47sure that um uh that not only I am
  245. 10:50successful, but we are able to enable
  246. 10:53others to reach their maximum potential.
  247. 10:56So, with that, I'll hand it back to you,
  248. 10:58Gita, for any other questions that you
  249. 11:00might have.
  250. 11:05>> Yeah, Sanjay, I have shared the
  251. 11:07questions with you.
  252. 11:12Hello.
  253. 11:13>> Yes.
  254. 11:13>> Ma'am, yeah. I think you can hear me.
  255. 11:19>> Yeah, Gita ma'am, can we probably you
  256. 11:21can go through the questions and ask
  257. 11:23uh the questions which you already have.
  258. 11:26Then uh we can leave it open to the
  259. 11:28people to ask questions, huh?
  260. 11:30Probably the the pre
  261. 11:32you were the pre list from the students
  262. 11:34correct. Let us go through that first
  263. 11:35and then go to leave it to the
  264. 11:36organizers here.
  265. 11:38>> Sure, we'll do it.
  266. 11:45>> Yeah, so let me the first question that
  267. 11:47is there is choosing the right area of
  268. 11:49specialization.
  269. 11:51As engineering students, we are exposed
  270. 11:54to numerous technologies and career
  271. 11:56opportunities.
  272. 11:58How did you identify the field you
  273. 12:00wanted to specialize in during your
  274. 12:03early career and how did you determine
  275. 12:06that you were making the right choice?
  276. 12:10So, it's a question that gets asked in
  277. 12:12different ways.
  278. 12:14You know, obviously it feels like
  279. 12:16everything is planned, but trust me it's
  280. 12:19not. Um at least in my case, um I did
  281. 12:22not want to do engineering.
  282. 12:24Um but as fate would have it, I could
  283. 12:27not get into
  284. 12:30uh
  285. 12:31the uh medical line which I wanted to
  286. 12:33go.
  287. 12:34Um unfortunately, you know, at that
  288. 12:36point I think even now you have CET. Um
  289. 12:40I think the the general merit
  290. 12:42>> for engineering. For medical, it is NEET
  291. 12:45now.
  292. 12:46One more
  293. 12:46>> I see.
  294. 12:47>> national level
  295. 12:48>> Yeah. I see. No, unfortunately my
  296. 12:51situation was such that I could not
  297. 12:53afford to go to any private college at
  298. 12:55that point. And the cut off I remember
  299. 12:58was like 325
  300. 13:00rank I think state rank for merit seats
  301. 13:03at that point and my ranking was 329.
  302. 13:07So, unfortunately I could
  303. 13:10I could could not get into medicine and
  304. 13:13then
  305. 13:15the next best thing was engineering. As
  306. 13:17you know, in growing up in India you
  307. 13:18have you can be anything um
  308. 13:21as long as it's a doctor or engineer.
  309. 13:25So, that's how
  310. 13:27that's how I got into engineering.
  311. 13:30Um
  312. 13:31and Hassan became a choice because
  313. 13:36I had a aunt out there that lived and my
  314. 13:39parents at that point wanted to make
  315. 13:40sure that we were close to someone.
  316. 13:43So, um
  317. 13:45So, I think there was a series of things
  318. 13:47that played out, but I would also say,
  319. 13:50you know, life is about I think as you
  320. 13:52build your career, you'll realize that
  321. 13:54there are many doors that open to you.
  322. 13:58As long as you're pointed in the right
  323. 14:00way that
  324. 14:01sort of aligns with your passion. For
  325. 14:04me, like I noted, being an entrepreneur,
  326. 14:07being a builder
  327. 14:09was something that
  328. 14:11that I was naturally inclined to and
  329. 14:14engineering made at that point given the
  330. 14:17circumstances. I didn't have any It
  331. 14:19wasn't like I didn't want to be an
  332. 14:20engineer, but it was something that I
  333. 14:23was um
  334. 14:25um that I could relate to. Now, I also
  335. 14:28was very clear about what I don't want
  336. 14:30to do in the sense that I was not cut
  337. 14:33out to be a mechanical engineer or civil
  338. 14:37engineer. I just felt that those were
  339. 14:41things that I did not associate with.
  340. 14:44Programming and computer engineering
  341. 14:47again connected back to what I
  342. 14:50thought I was good at, which was to be
  343. 14:53creative in terms of solving different
  344. 14:56problems. And at that point, software
  345. 14:59programming was something that I I
  346. 15:01deeply deeply enjoyed even back in
  347. 15:04college days.
  348. 15:06And that's kind of how it all started.
  349. 15:08It's hard to kind of pinpoint and have
  350. 15:11an ambition. You need to have a life
  351. 15:13passion. I truly believe that. In my
  352. 15:15case, like I noted, being independent
  353. 15:17and being an entrepreneur was my sort of
  354. 15:20anchoring concept in terms of how I
  355. 15:23wanted to lead my life. But the path
  356. 15:25that you take could be many and you
  357. 15:28learn different things and that that age
  358. 15:30especially when you're a college student
  359. 15:32or till you probably get to your um
  360. 15:34you know, late 20s,
  361. 15:37my philosophy in life and in generally
  362. 15:39when I tell kids of that age is to you
  363. 15:42know, there is no wrong steps at that
  364. 15:45age meaning you can take any step and
  365. 15:47it's still a step forward.
  366. 15:49You you can fall and and you could have
  367. 15:52done a mistake but there's still a lot
  368. 15:53of time on your side to be able to
  369. 15:56correct and do what whatever is needed.
  370. 15:59So in general I would say don't
  371. 16:01overthink at that age as long as you're
  372. 16:03pointed generally in the direction of
  373. 16:05where you want to go,
  374. 16:07you'll be all right. And that is
  375. 16:10would be how I would suggest you
  376. 16:13approach
  377. 16:14your career as well.
  378. 16:23So the next question I see here is
  379. 16:25industry expectations and mentorship.
  380. 16:28Students are often encouraged to learn
  381. 16:31emerging technologies and undertake
  382. 16:33projects. From an industry leaders
  383. 16:35perspective, what qualities, skills and
  384. 16:39attitudes do you look for in eng
  385. 16:42engineers that make them worth mentoring
  386. 16:44and investing in?
  387. 16:46That's a great question. Um
  388. 16:48See, at the age that you are, one of the
  389. 16:51number one skills that is important and
  390. 16:54what we look for is how coachable you
  391. 16:57are.
  392. 16:58What I mean by that is
  393. 17:00you know, there's a lot of kids that
  394. 17:02probably have got great grades, probably
  395. 17:05um
  396. 17:06um
  397. 17:07are also very smart and hard working and
  398. 17:10all that but at the age that you are or
  399. 17:14the when you go through your academic
  400. 17:15stuff, you know, compared to the
  401. 17:17industry requirement to where you are
  402. 17:20when you're graduating, there's a
  403. 17:22significant gap. Doesn't matter which
  404. 17:24college you go or what course you do and
  405. 17:26so on.
  406. 17:28So, the number one thing becomes how do
  407. 17:30you bridge that gap between um
  408. 17:33the raw talent that you are to be able
  409. 17:36to
  410. 17:37um deliver at the the the expectations
  411. 17:41that you that are essential or or or um
  412. 17:44expected in the uh professional setup.
  413. 17:47Um and that gap you can close uh
  414. 17:51by making sure that that you know, you
  415. 17:54are given a certain amount of uh
  416. 17:56training and given a certain amount of
  417. 17:58uh mentorship. But, you need to be
  418. 18:01coachable. You need to be able to um
  419. 18:04um take the feedback, um build on it,
  420. 18:07learn from it, and so on. So, I think
  421. 18:10the number one quality we look for um at
  422. 18:12least in Estera and the companies and
  423. 18:15teams that I've been part of is how
  424. 18:16coachable you are. That's number one.
  425. 18:19Number two that we look for would be in
  426. 18:22terms of um
  427. 18:23um not necessarily your um your um uh
  428. 18:28your you know, skill set because a bar
  429. 18:30for skill set at that that level would
  430. 18:33be less. But, what we look for is uh how
  431. 18:36much of um
  432. 18:38uh how much of um
  433. 18:40uh not necessarily experience, but I
  434. 18:42would say projects that you've done
  435. 18:45because coursework is coursework, but if
  436. 18:47you can supplement during your your
  437. 18:50college time with various different
  438. 18:52projects you've done, whether it's an
  439. 18:54through internship or through your
  440. 18:57coursework projects, meaning more
  441. 18:59hands-on stuff versus um doing something
  442. 19:03that is um
  443. 19:04that is theoretical in nature. And I
  444. 19:06There are different companies that that
  445. 19:08look at different things, but I won't
  446. 19:10say generally speaking what uh we try to
  447. 19:13do is make sure that um someone or the
  448. 19:16the folks that we talk to uh
  449. 19:18have done something beyond just a
  450. 19:21theoretical studies of different courses
  451. 19:24that you're doing.
  452. 19:25And for that, you can do that through
  453. 19:27formal internships, or it could also
  454. 19:30happen that informally you are spending
  455. 19:33time learning, building, contributing to
  456. 19:36open-source forums and and other things.
  457. 19:39Those things in my mind are a lot more
  458. 19:41important than the grade that you have.
  459. 19:44Um cuz you know, usually we
  460. 19:47we try to go for the most success we
  461. 19:50have had in Estera has been in in
  462. 19:53mid-level regional colleges. Um you
  463. 19:56know, similar to a college like Hassan,
  464. 19:58let's say, back in India, where the kids
  465. 20:01are um
  466. 20:03you know, there is no chip on their
  467. 20:04shoulders. Uh when we go to Stanford or
  468. 20:07go to Harvard and other places and and
  469. 20:09interview kids, the challenge we see is
  470. 20:12that the kids already feel entitled. Um
  471. 20:15they feel that they deserve the job. I
  472. 20:17mean, this could happen for kids
  473. 20:19studying, let's say, in IIT in India,
  474. 20:21where there is a um
  475. 20:24you know, getting into IIT is considered
  476. 20:26their life success, and after that
  477. 20:28everything that happens doesn't matter.
  478. 20:31But the honest truth is that getting
  479. 20:33into a college or getting out of a
  480. 20:35college is um
  481. 20:37just the beginning of a long journey.
  482. 20:40And a going to the a certain college
  483. 20:42might help you get a job, the first job,
  484. 20:46but after 6 months or 1 year, it's level
  485. 20:48playing field, meaning we don't the
  486. 20:51college that you went to or the course
  487. 20:53that you did or the grades that you have
  488. 20:56is meaningless. And to that standpoint,
  489. 20:58what it comes down to is um is, you
  490. 21:01know, the ability of kids to be
  491. 21:03coachable, the ability of how quickly
  492. 21:06they can learn and adapt and those are
  493. 21:09things I would say are important
  494. 21:12factors. So if you get an opportunity to
  495. 21:14to
  496. 21:15to
  497. 21:18have some internship opportunities while
  498. 21:20in college, I think that is probably a
  499. 21:23very positive things thing on your
  500. 21:26resume.
  501. 21:31So I can go through this long list but
  502. 21:33there is any other questions is
  503. 21:35>> Yeah, Sanjay probably
  504. 21:37I think that's a brilliant point what
  505. 21:39you made about the learnability and
  506. 21:40coachability of the individuals
  507. 21:42and how it is important
  508. 21:44yeah grades are important but compared
  509. 21:46to that how do you learn and how you can
  510. 21:48be coached and molded. See what I liked
  511. 21:50about one point which you mentioned
  512. 21:52about the uniqueness of colleges like
  513. 21:54the way you mentioned you know, they're
  514. 21:56not probably the tier one sort of a
  515. 21:58thing but we get much more independence
  516. 22:01and probably much more opportunities to
  517. 22:03grow in the college. So that's something
  518. 22:05which we're trying to see how we can
  519. 22:06make
  520. 22:08Hassan College as the forefront in some
  521. 22:10of those things.
  522. 22:12Sanjay one related question which I have
  523. 22:14the whole concept of learnability today
  524. 22:17is going to take a big hit because of AI
  525. 22:19correct the way we are learning
  526. 22:21or way we have learned and the way that
  527. 22:23next generation will learn probably is
  528. 22:25different. How do you foresee it Sanjay
  529. 22:28the impact of AI on not only
  530. 22:29learnability every aspect but since you
  531. 22:31picked up on learnability I thought that
  532. 22:32is something interesting to
  533. 22:34ask you.
  534. 22:36>> Yeah, no absolutely. See first of all I
  535. 22:38would say to all of you guys
  536. 22:41AI is going to completely change how you
  537. 22:44learn how you work how you deal with
  538. 22:47life in general.
  539. 22:49Now we are in the forefront of the
  540. 22:52technology
  541. 22:53pretty much any major hyperscaler that
  542. 22:56you think of that's developing
  543. 22:58technology with Amazon or Nvidia or
  544. 23:02Google You know, we are essentially
  545. 23:04providing the underlying connectivity
  546. 23:07technology. So, um meaning we provide
  547. 23:10the
  548. 23:11If you think of a human body as an
  549. 23:13anatomy, like just for comparison, and
  550. 23:17um
  551. 23:17if companies like Nvidia are doing the
  552. 23:19brains, we do the nervous system,
  553. 23:21meaning connecting the brain to the
  554. 23:23different parts of the body or different
  555. 23:25parts of an AI server. So, we see a lot
  556. 23:28we see a lot in terms of the um the
  557. 23:31workloads and applications that are
  558. 23:33changing dramatically. But, to answer
  559. 23:35your question on um how AI um how how to
  560. 23:39deal with um AI or how to use AI, first
  561. 23:43thing you you need to embrace it. Don't
  562. 23:45fight it. Don't be worried about it. AI
  563. 23:47is here to stay.
  564. 23:49Okay. Just like internet, just like
  565. 23:51social media, you know, the genie's out
  566. 23:54of the bottle right now. And it is going
  567. 23:56to fundamentally change how um we all
  568. 23:59operate. So, specifically for the crowd
  569. 24:02here, I think there are two things,
  570. 24:03right? One is how do you leverage AI for
  571. 24:07your own learning? Um you know, first of
  572. 24:10all, again, I don't know what the
  573. 24:11policies at MCER, but at least um here
  574. 24:14what I see is that, you know, kids are
  575. 24:16encouraged to use AI as part of their um
  576. 24:20their coursework and and learning and so
  577. 24:23on. Um there is no need to fight it.
  578. 24:26There is no need to say, you know, you
  579. 24:28still have to learn the fun
  580. 24:31fundamentals. So, the way it's done here
  581. 24:33is kids are allowed to use uh AI for
  582. 24:36doing coursework, but exams, they have
  583. 24:39to make sure that, you know, it's uh
  584. 24:41there is no AI involved. So, to that
  585. 24:43standpoint, the foundational learning
  586. 24:45has to happen. And um
  587. 24:48uh I would say learn about how do you I
  588. 24:51mean, today, to be honest with you, and
  589. 24:53some of you guys may get worried who are
  590. 24:55doing computer science and all that.
  591. 24:58Um
  592. 24:59you know, till about like 10 years
  593. 25:01experience folks, we can replace that
  594. 25:04with AI. Okay, meaning our software
  595. 25:07engineering uh team, you know, we have
  596. 25:10pretty much achieved, I want to say, you
  597. 25:12know, 70-80%
  598. 25:14efficiency by using AI. In other words,
  599. 25:17what used to take us um let's say 10
  600. 25:20people, now we can do that with five
  601. 25:22people.
  602. 25:23Um and and that is uh the reality.
  603. 25:27Um that is also changing quickly to um
  604. 25:30you know, silicon design, hardware
  605. 25:32design, and so on. But um that is a
  606. 25:35reality. There is no point fighting
  607. 25:37about it, and especially for anything,
  608. 25:40most of the jobs in India, if you think
  609. 25:42about it, that are um
  610. 25:44that are um
  611. 25:45uh dealing with data and data movement
  612. 25:49or data synthesis, you can pretty much
  613. 25:51assume that uh most of those kind of
  614. 25:54jobs would be replaced by AI.
  615. 25:57So, the question becomes, what do you
  616. 25:59do? And the answer is in some ways
  617. 26:01complex, some ways simple, which is you
  618. 26:04need to figure out how do you go up the
  619. 26:06value chain, whereby leveraging the AI
  620. 26:09tools, whether it is um related to um a
  621. 26:13a certain um um you know, coding aspect
  622. 26:16or or software development aspect or any
  623. 26:18other aspect, you learn those tools. And
  624. 26:22that allows you to get to the next level
  625. 26:25of um of um
  626. 26:27uh of impact or influence you can have.
  627. 26:29Um and so that's that's that's
  628. 26:32foundational uh of what I would suggest
  629. 26:34you do, like at Estera, we do it just to
  630. 26:37give you an idea, we have high school
  631. 26:39internships. So, right at high school,
  632. 26:41kids are taught how to use AI, and I'm
  633. 26:44not talking about AI just for search,
  634. 26:47like chat GPT and all that. I'm talking
  635. 26:49about, you know, proper um agentic AIs,
  636. 26:52where people are writing agents to
  637. 26:54complete and do several things or
  638. 26:57leveraging that for
  639. 26:59for software development and so on. So,
  640. 27:02you have to like very early
  641. 27:05start embracing it in a way that would
  642. 27:08impact and allow you to do different
  643. 27:10things.
  644. 27:12Go ahead, Ashik.
  645. 27:17Ashik, you have a question.
  646. 27:18>> Yeah.
  647. 27:19>> Hello, sir. It's Ashik Lee actually from
  648. 27:21Miraish.
  649. 27:23So, lately I have been
  650. 27:26searching a lot about AI and I was
  651. 27:29getting to know that when optic fibers
  652. 27:31had come, we were not really actually
  653. 27:34using 100% of it and we were using only
  654. 27:37about 0.45%
  655. 27:39of it. Now, what would be like after 5
  656. 27:42or 10 years in product development,
  657. 27:45the AIs whichever we use become very
  658. 27:47expensive and we might have to go back
  659. 27:50to our initial stages of learning the
  660. 27:53actual what the initial ways of doing
  661. 27:57product development. Now, what do you
  662. 27:58suggest for the students that they have
  663. 28:00to focus
  664. 28:01things which are very much necessary in
  665. 28:03the product development?
  666. 28:06That completely not focusing on AI and
  667. 28:08learning everything from AI. What are
  668. 28:10those things that the students might
  669. 28:12have to follow and keep in mind that
  670. 28:15these are the things which you have to
  671. 28:16keep in mind and make sure that you are
  672. 28:18well versed with that. Even if there is
  673. 28:20no AI, you will still survive in the
  674. 28:22product development market.
  675. 28:25>> Yeah, see, number one thing I want to be
  676. 28:27very clear is that AI is a tool. Okay?
  677. 28:30Just like a calculator or even the
  678. 28:32internet, it's a it's a tool that can
  679. 28:35help you get the job done. But, you need
  680. 28:38to still do the job yourself, meaning
  681. 28:41the foundation learning of critical
  682. 28:43thinking or first principle thinking or
  683. 28:46problem-solving or you know,
  684. 28:49analyzing results and so on is is still
  685. 28:52very much a human thing. So, the
  686. 28:54learning that you guys are doing is not
  687. 28:58going to get replaced. You still have to
  688. 29:00learn those things.
  689. 29:01And AI
  690. 29:03is essentially a tool for
  691. 29:05for uh
  692. 29:07for learning better or learning
  693. 29:09differently or accelerating your
  694. 29:11learning and so on. That's a very
  695. 29:13critical differentiation that you need
  696. 29:15to make. Okay. Um so, that's the first
  697. 29:18point. Now, getting to your point of
  698. 29:20like
  699. 29:21you know, how do you
  700. 29:23Um I mean, you talked about optical and
  701. 29:26so on and the whole concept of you know,
  702. 29:28the dead fiber and so on. So, see we are
  703. 29:31right now in an in a in a infrastructure
  704. 29:34building stage with AI.
  705. 29:36Okay. So, we are meaning still very
  706. 29:39early in the AI journey.
  707. 29:42Um the way I would describe it is that
  708. 29:44some of you might have used dial-up
  709. 29:46internet. You know, initially when
  710. 29:47internet came up, you had to connect
  711. 29:49through the phone lines.
  712. 29:51Um and that's the stage that we truly
  713. 29:53are. There is a lot of infrastructure
  714. 29:55being built. Of course, um there is this
  715. 29:58infrastructure is not uh cheap meaning
  716. 30:00there's a lot of capital being poured
  717. 30:02into this.
  718. 30:04Um but, the fact of the matter remains
  719. 30:06the following, right? Um even today,
  720. 30:08even though people buy Nvidia GPUs
  721. 30:12paying tens of thousands of dollars,
  722. 30:14they're only utilized about 52% of the
  723. 30:17time. Meaning 48% of the time, they're
  724. 30:20simply waiting for data or memory.
  725. 30:24Meaning there is a lot of inefficiencies
  726. 30:26in how the servers are being uh
  727. 30:29um are being utilized. So, what you
  728. 30:32should expect is similar to the internet
  729. 30:36um
  730. 30:37uh
  731. 30:38revolution and the technology when it
  732. 30:40got deployed, there was a huge amount of
  733. 30:43infrastructure build out and lot of
  734. 30:45hype. But what happened is that in 2000,
  735. 30:48it all came crashing down, right?
  736. 30:51But the the goodness of internet as a
  737. 30:54technology is survived and then over the
  738. 30:57next decade meaning there was a big
  739. 31:00run-up and then it all came down and
  740. 31:02then there was a a gradual growth to to
  741. 31:05start realizing how to monetize a
  742. 31:08technology, meaning like once people
  743. 31:10figured out how to monetize internet
  744. 31:13through
  745. 31:14various different ways, whether it's
  746. 31:15online
  747. 31:17commerce, e-commerce, or by leveraging
  748. 31:20it for a variety of communication ways,
  749. 31:23whether it's voice over IP and things
  750. 31:25like that, then the monetization
  751. 31:27started, meaning you go from an
  752. 31:29infrastructure development to the
  753. 31:31monetization. And once the monetization
  754. 31:34starts, then you start the engine
  755. 31:36starts, you know, growing. Cuz today
  756. 31:39what's happening is that, you know, for
  757. 31:41every $150
  758. 31:43that are spent, um the amount of of of
  759. 31:48revenue coming through that is probably
  760. 31:50like $50, $60, meaning it's almost not
  761. 31:53even half. So this is this this is an
  762. 31:56initial anytime a new technology is lot
  763. 31:58of infrastructure being built, the
  764. 32:00monetization is low. So at some point
  765. 32:03the the markets will react, the capital
  766. 32:06won't be available, uh and and things
  767. 32:08will come down. But what happens is the
  768. 32:10monetization continues and once the
  769. 32:13monetization starts becoming at a faster
  770. 32:16clip than the capital investment that's
  771. 32:19going on, then suddenly you see this
  772. 32:21transition where you know, there's lot
  773. 32:23of
  774. 32:24lot of applications being built, people
  775. 32:27are paying for that. I mean, you see you
  776. 32:29see that even now happening with some of
  777. 32:31the search engine-based stuff like
  778. 32:33ChatGPT and so on. But still, we are so
  779. 32:36early in this era of AI that over the
  780. 32:39next 10 years, my hunch is you know, you
  781. 32:43would see so many changes happening
  782. 32:44around your lifestyle.
  783. 32:47Whether it is for doing like vacation
  784. 32:49planning. Today, what do you do? You you
  785. 32:52decide where you want to go, you go to a
  786. 32:54website, you do some research, you go
  787. 32:56book your hotels, you go book your
  788. 32:59you know, your travel tickets and so on.
  789. 33:02But very quickly in the next, let's say
  790. 33:04two to four years, it's all going to
  791. 33:06come down to just one prompt where you
  792. 33:09simply say, "Hey, I want to go you have
  793. 33:11these days free and you want to do
  794. 33:12something with it." And the tools would
  795. 33:15be smart enough to be able to figure out
  796. 33:17where all you have gone in the past,
  797. 33:19what kind of places that you like, what
  798. 33:21kind of
  799. 33:22locations are available, what do you
  800. 33:26what do you you know, what kind of
  801. 33:29logistics, travel tickets and all that
  802. 33:31is automatically done with a single
  803. 33:34prompt. And that is sort of the era that
  804. 33:37we'll be entering and and that will open
  805. 33:39up a whole different kind of economy
  806. 33:41similar to what internet did.
  807. 33:44And that will lead into new kind of
  808. 33:46jobs, meaning jobs are not going away,
  809. 33:48just to be very clear. What's happening
  810. 33:51is that the the way the jobs get
  811. 33:53defined, the job
  812. 33:55description or the kind of roles that
  813. 33:58you can do will be very different than
  814. 34:00what it is been in the last you know,
  815. 34:0210-20 years.
  816. 34:04So, in general, when it comes to
  817. 34:06product development, product management,
  818. 34:09what you need to make sure is that
  819. 34:11you're understanding the impact of a of
  820. 34:13a new tool which is AI and then saying,
  821. 34:16"Okay, now that we have this, how do you
  822. 34:18use that tool to achieve a different
  823. 34:21level of
  824. 34:22of productivity or monetization point?"
  825. 34:29>> Thank you. Thank you, sir. So, you're
  826. 34:30suggesting that
  827. 34:32the tools will help us to increase our
  828. 34:34efficiency but the fundamental human
  829. 34:37part is always built there.
  830. 34:39>> Absolutely. Absolutely.
  831. 34:41>> Thank you. Thank you, sir.
  832. 34:43>> Yeah, jobs are not going anywhere. All
  833. 34:45I'm suggesting is that I mean right now
  834. 34:47I can talk about Estera. We you know, we
  835. 34:49are hiring um because it is so talent is
  836. 34:53so hard to come by, you know, especially
  837. 34:56in Estera. Half of our hires we get from
  838. 34:59new college grads. We do that intensely
  839. 35:01because the new college grads are
  840. 35:05much more ready for AI than our
  841. 35:08generation. Okay, just a simple matter
  842. 35:10of fact just because of how you're grown
  843. 35:13up um in the social media era and how
  844. 35:15connected you are to to various tools
  845. 35:18and so on. Um
  846. 35:20you guys are much more prepared but my
  847. 35:22suggestion to all of you is that you
  848. 35:25need to retool yourself and make sure
  849. 35:27that you're able to um leverage that for
  850. 35:30achieving higher levels of productivity.
  851. 35:36>> Yeah. Thank you.
  852. 35:39Let us go to the next.
  853. 35:47>> Okay, you want me to read the next
  854. 35:49question?
  855. 35:51>> You tell me if you're asking something.
  856. 35:55>> Yeah, I was just thinking like we'll go
  857. 35:57to the move to the next question.
  858. 36:02Shall I?
  859. 36:03>> Yes, yes, please read it. I think it's
  860. 36:05better because let
  861. 36:06>> Yeah, the next question is regarding
  862. 36:08selecting the
  863. 36:09yeah, selecting the right career path.
  864. 36:13Uh the question is with career
  865. 36:15opportunities in web development, data
  866. 36:17analytics, and software engineering, how
  867. 36:20should students evaluate these options
  868. 36:23and choose a career path that offers
  869. 36:26long-term growth, job security, and
  870. 36:28professional satisfaction.
  871. 36:34>> Yeah, so I think I touched upon this a
  872. 36:36little bit earlier. Um
  873. 36:39See, the the uh
  874. 36:41at the stage that you are in a college,
  875. 36:43it's what becomes important is that your
  876. 36:46directionally, you know, we we we kind
  877. 36:49of joke here in the US saying you have
  878. 36:51to be in the right zip code.
  879. 36:54Um you don't have to right zip code or
  880. 36:56right pin code, I guess, in India. Um
  881. 36:59what I mean by that is um See, um all of
  882. 37:03you are talented. You all have various
  883. 37:05skill set, but it's almost like um
  884. 37:08making sure that you're pointed in the
  885. 37:11in the right way.
  886. 37:12Um I think career opportunities, I mean,
  887. 37:15it all comes down to what you want to do
  888. 37:18individually. Um In other words, some of
  889. 37:21you might be interested in in data
  890. 37:23analytics or or or hard core software
  891. 37:25programming, or you might be interested
  892. 37:28in product management, product
  893. 37:30marketing, or you might be interested
  894. 37:32in, you know, some other uh field as
  895. 37:34well, um including sales, technical
  896. 37:37sales as an example. Right? So, uh I
  897. 37:40would say you have to be honest to that
  898. 37:44cuz the
  899. 37:45uh um
  900. 37:46the mistake that I think a lot of folks
  901. 37:48do is to focus on their weakness and
  902. 37:51say, "Let me try to keep addressing the
  903. 37:54weakness I have." But what I find is
  904. 37:57that, you know, you all are blessed uh
  905. 37:59with a certain um skill set or a
  906. 38:02god-given talent. I find that the the
  907. 38:05the highest chance of success uh will
  908. 38:09happen when you are um when you are
  909. 38:12leveraging your strengths and and
  910. 38:15worrying less about your weakness. So,
  911. 38:18your strengths are naturally um inclined
  912. 38:20towards a passion you have or a domain
  913. 38:23domain that you feel naturally
  914. 38:26comfortable. So, I think it starts with
  915. 38:29that uh by being honest about
  916. 38:32uh what is your strength and then having
  917. 38:35the mindset of saying, "Let me leverage
  918. 38:37my strength um as a way of building a
  919. 38:41career or a profession."
  920. 38:44So, that I think is is a is a first
  921. 38:46point. Um then it becomes a a matter of
  922. 38:50like how do you uh surround yourself
  923. 38:53with the right people or the right
  924. 38:56context uh which goes back to the right
  925. 38:58PIN code I said, where, you know, if you
  926. 39:01are interested in product management,
  927. 39:03then you have to join a product company.
  928. 39:06You have to uh find a way to, you know,
  929. 39:09learn from how the product management
  930. 39:12type of career would work, which could
  931. 39:14be around, you know, understanding what
  932. 39:17the market needs, what the customer
  933. 39:19needs are, and and so on and so forth.
  934. 39:21So, that I know is easier said than done
  935. 39:24because in India, obviously, or in any
  936. 39:26place, you know, getting a job of what
  937. 39:29you are passionate about uh is
  938. 39:31difficult. Um but at that point, what it
  939. 39:34comes down to is that how are you able
  940. 39:37to manage your priorities? Meaning, even
  941. 39:41though you want to get into product
  942. 39:42management, you might start somewhere
  943. 39:44else. But then your fortitude of being
  944. 39:47able to stay true to your ambition and
  945. 39:51making sure that even though the first
  946. 39:53few years you're doing something that uh
  947. 39:55probably
  948. 39:56uh may not be directly related to
  949. 39:58product management is is is not
  950. 40:00something that you you get discouraged,
  951. 40:03but you start saying, "Given that my
  952. 40:06goal is product management, how do I
  953. 40:08start in a certain domain?" And I can
  954. 40:11give you an example. Like for me, like I
  955. 40:13noted, I wanted to start a company. That
  956. 40:15was my life's mission. That is what I
  957. 40:17always thought about. But I also
  958. 40:19realized very quickly that you know, the
  959. 40:22chances of building a a successful
  960. 40:24company is is is very small. Um I think
  961. 40:28the the statistic is that, you know, um
  962. 40:31just 6% of the companies see their fifth
  963. 40:34birthday, meaning 94% of the companies
  964. 40:38die even before they get to 5 years. So,
  965. 40:42it was is it was very clear for me that
  966. 40:45for me to start a company, I need to
  967. 40:46build some foundation, some anchor skill
  968. 40:49set, whether it's a domain knowledge, or
  969. 40:52whether it is having a good network of
  970. 40:54people, or having a mental temperament
  971. 40:58that that is strong in resilience and
  972. 41:01and all that stuff. So, what I did was
  973. 41:04my first job when I got in in Wipro, um
  974. 41:07uh
  975. 41:08you know, I made sure that I convinced
  976. 41:10enough people to put me in a group. It
  977. 41:12was a small group at that point in
  978. 41:14Wipro. 99% of Wipro was working on
  979. 41:17services. There was 1% of the company
  980. 41:20working on products. And I somehow made
  981. 41:23my way to that group. Um I started doing
  982. 41:26software. And then when I came to the
  983. 41:28US, I was still doing software. Although
  984. 41:31my next step was going to be on the
  985. 41:33business side, product management, I
  986. 41:35always made sure that even though I was
  987. 41:37part of the software engineering team, I
  988. 41:40would go have lunch with the product
  989. 41:42people. I would go and listen to how
  990. 41:44they're presenting to customers. I would
  991. 41:47try to like read up on different things
  992. 41:49and send some, you know, emails to the
  993. 41:51product team to say, "Hey, what do you
  994. 41:53think about this? What do you think
  995. 41:55about that?" Um every opportunity I got
  996. 41:58to go listen to someone talking about
  997. 42:00product management or entrepreneurship.
  998. 42:02So, the point I'm trying to make is that
  999. 42:04you may not get what you want on day
  1000. 42:07one. But as long as you're honest about
  1001. 42:10your passion, you believe in yourself,
  1002. 42:13and you are able to leverage every
  1003. 42:15opportunity
  1004. 42:17to be able to
  1005. 42:18to, you know, keep making a step forward
  1006. 42:21to the goal that you have in life, I
  1007. 42:23think you will eventually get there. You
  1008. 42:25just have to have the temperament, the
  1009. 42:28patience, and the conviction that one
  1010. 42:31way or the other you'll achieve your
  1011. 42:33goal. And that probably is um
  1012. 42:36you know, some of the things that I
  1013. 42:37would say of how to achieve uh long-term
  1014. 42:41success, how to achieve professional
  1015. 42:43satisfaction, and how to achieve job
  1016. 42:46security. That really comes down to you
  1017. 42:49as in like you need to be able to
  1018. 42:51deliver enough results, you need to be
  1019. 42:54able to deliver enough value, you need
  1020. 42:57to show that you are truly someone that
  1021. 42:59the company should
  1022. 43:01should depend on. And that comes through
  1023. 43:03working hard, working smart, and all the
  1024. 43:06cliches that you hear. So, those are a
  1025. 43:08few things I would tell when it comes to
  1026. 43:10selecting a career path. You will not be
  1027. 43:13there on day one, but if you are
  1028. 43:15persistent, you will get to where you
  1029. 43:17want to be.
  1030. 43:28>> Sir,
  1031. 43:29I have a question.
  1032. 43:30>> Mhm.
  1033. 43:31>> Sir,
  1034. 43:32the
  1035. 43:33Yeah, ma'am. I'm Dr. Mohana Lakshmi. I'm
  1036. 43:36associated with Dr. Geetha Kiran at
  1037. 43:38Miraise Foundation. I work with the her.
  1038. 43:41I So, I was listening to ma'am reading
  1039. 43:43your journey right from MCE going on to
  1040. 43:47the global stage. You've seen various
  1041. 43:48levels of transition in your career,
  1042. 43:50sir. But what was that one point in your
  1043. 43:52journey which made you to build such a
  1044. 43:55big empire of Astera Labs? There is
  1045. 43:58There should be some turning point which
  1046. 44:00would have made you take this decision.
  1047. 44:03>> Yeah, no. I think there were probably
  1048. 44:05two important
  1049. 44:07uh important points professionally that,
  1050. 44:10uh, that helped me.
  1051. 44:11One was, uh, in 2007.
  1052. 44:15So, I was,
  1053. 44:17uh, in software engineering for about 10
  1054. 44:20years at that point.
  1055. 44:22And, uh,
  1056. 44:23you know, unfortunately, the first few
  1057. 44:25years, the first 10 years, I worked on
  1058. 44:27products that did not make money.
  1059. 44:30Okay, so, I'm like one of those
  1060. 44:32engineers that I will put my,
  1061. 44:35you know, every minute of the day, uh,
  1062. 44:37in in doing my work, but for me, the
  1063. 44:41satisfaction comes when the product that
  1064. 44:43I worked on from an engineering
  1065. 44:45standpoint or whatever,
  1066. 44:47transforms into monetary business or
  1067. 44:50commercial success.
  1068. 44:53Meaning, people are actually using the
  1069. 44:55product. People are actually, uh, paying
  1070. 44:58for it. So, what happened in 2007 was
  1071. 45:01that I was so frustrated with, uh, with
  1072. 45:04working on products that did not,
  1073. 45:06uh, make money that I kept complaining
  1074. 45:09to my then GM.
  1075. 45:11And I think at some point he got so
  1076. 45:13frustrated that he said, "Hey, if you,
  1077. 45:16you know, think so much of yourself or
  1078. 45:18you think," and I used to complain
  1079. 45:19saying, "Your marketing team doesn't
  1080. 45:21know what products to build." And, uh,
  1081. 45:24he basically turned around really mad at
  1082. 45:27me and said, "You know, if you think you
  1083. 45:29know so much about marketing, you should
  1084. 45:32join marketing."
  1085. 45:33And, you know, that one sentence
  1086. 45:36transformed me if the first time where I
  1087. 45:39said, "Okay, I will take it." I took it
  1088. 45:40as a challenge more than anything else.
  1089. 45:43We were in Colorado. We had just built a
  1090. 45:45a nice house. We had our son there. We
  1091. 45:48had great friends there. But, over a
  1092. 45:51weekend, we decided to move from
  1093. 45:53Colorado to California because, you
  1094. 45:55know, that's where National
  1095. 45:57Semiconductor's, uh, which I was working
  1096. 45:59then, they had their headquarters and
  1097. 46:01the marketing teams were based here. So
  1098. 46:03that I want to say is one
  1099. 46:05life-transforming
  1100. 46:07decision for me to basically say that
  1101. 46:10now that
  1102. 46:11I have an opportunity to do what I want
  1103. 46:13to do, let me embrace it wholeheartedly.
  1104. 46:16Meaning there was no half measure there.
  1105. 46:19It was all or nothing. But that was one
  1106. 46:21decision.
  1107. 46:22The second decision or the turning point
  1108. 46:24that happened was in
  1109. 46:27National got acquired by Texas
  1110. 46:29Instruments in 2012.
  1111. 46:31Um and you know,
  1112. 46:33um
  1113. 46:34I had a great career in Texas
  1114. 46:36Instruments. I was a GM. I was managing
  1115. 46:38a significant business.
  1116. 46:40Hundreds of people and and great
  1117. 46:43success. I could have continued to be
  1118. 46:44there.
  1119. 46:45But then what
  1120. 46:47also I mean even though we we learned a
  1121. 46:50lot from Texas Instruments and the
  1122. 46:51company was very kind. But what happened
  1123. 46:54in 2017 was that you know, we saw this
  1124. 46:57this transition happening where server
  1125. 47:00motherboards were transitioning from
  1126. 47:02just having CPUs from companies like
  1127. 47:05Intel or AMD to start having GPUs or
  1128. 47:09accelerators for doing what was then
  1129. 47:11called heterogeneous compute or now we
  1130. 47:14know it as AI infrastructure.
  1131. 47:16Um or machine learning is was was the
  1132. 47:19was the way it started. And we very
  1133. 47:21quickly realized that the the when you
  1134. 47:24have multiple processors on a computer,
  1135. 47:27they need to talk to each other. They
  1136. 47:29need to talk to each other very fast.
  1137. 47:31And the underlying connectivity had to
  1138. 47:33change. So by real fortune, I mean now I
  1139. 47:37say it's fortunate but in TI we had to
  1140. 47:40present to management every year what
  1141. 47:43our longer term plan was. And this was
  1142. 47:45my plan saying hey fundamentally the
  1143. 47:48workloads are changing and hardware has
  1144. 47:50to be different.
  1145. 47:52Now
  1146. 47:53I say it's fortunate because TI did not
  1147. 47:56like the idea. I mean, TI has been a
  1148. 47:58great company, but they focus mostly on,
  1149. 48:01you know,
  1150. 48:02industrial and automotive type of
  1151. 48:04market,
  1152. 48:05whereas AI is very vertical. You know,
  1153. 48:07there's only few large companies like
  1154. 48:10Google and Amazon
  1155. 48:12that that you get to service mostly.
  1156. 48:16And to that standpoint, again, it was a
  1157. 48:19decision time, you know, you you believe
  1158. 48:21in something
  1159. 48:23in terms of transition, but the other
  1160. 48:26person does not or the company in this
  1161. 48:28case did not believe. And it comes down
  1162. 48:31to what you do at that point. You can
  1163. 48:33say, you know what, I give up this idea
  1164. 48:36I have, or you say, let me back myself
  1165. 48:40up and go embrace and do something with
  1166. 48:42it.
  1167. 48:43So, that was the second decision, but
  1168. 48:45you see the the trend here. All comes
  1169. 48:47down to how do you make sure that when
  1170. 48:50an opportunity is presented,
  1171. 48:53you take it. And you don't take it
  1172. 48:55blindly. Like, if you think about it, we
  1173. 48:57had prepared for it, like
  1174. 49:00even going to my first transition, I had
  1175. 49:02studied a lot about product and
  1176. 49:05marketing, even though I was in
  1177. 49:07engineering. So, when an opportunity
  1178. 49:09presented itself, I was prepared. And
  1179. 49:11that point, you have to, you know, back
  1180. 49:13yourself and say, I'm going to go for
  1181. 49:15it. There is no half measure. Same thing
  1182. 49:17when TI said, this is not an area that
  1183. 49:20they want to invest because it was too
  1184. 49:22niche, it was again a moment where you
  1185. 49:25say, you know what, I believe in this
  1186. 49:26concept
  1187. 49:28wholeheartedly. I prepared for it by
  1188. 49:31taking on different, you know, general
  1189. 49:33management roles, and so on. And then
  1190. 49:36you you transition. So, the point I'm
  1191. 49:39trying to make is that all of you will
  1192. 49:41be presented with moments like this.
  1193. 49:44And as long as you're able to like have
  1194. 49:46the conviction to to go and do what you
  1195. 49:49want, you'll be wildly successful, you
  1196. 49:52know, way more successful than I have
  1197. 49:54been.
  1198. 49:58Go ahead, Dhanush.
  1199. 50:01>> Yeah, we have Dhanush.
  1200. 50:03Dhanush, you have a question?
  1201. 50:08>> Hello. Hello.
  1202. 50:09>> Ah, Dhanush, yes.
  1203. 50:11>> Ah, yes yes, sir. This is Dhanush. So,
  1204. 50:14sir, I'm in first year in CSE, studying
  1205. 50:16in CSE.
  1206. 50:17>> It's echoing, Dhanush.
  1207. 50:21Yeah, tell me.
  1208. 50:29>> Go ahead, Dhanush. We can hear you. Go
  1209. 50:31ahead.
  1210. 50:32>> Unmute yourself.
  1211. 50:37>> Hello.
  1212. 50:38>> Yes.
  1213. 50:39>> Yes.
  1214. 50:39>> Yes, tell me.
  1215. 50:40>> Ah, yes yes. Ah, I'm Dhanush from first
  1216. 50:43year in CSE college and I'm near ice.
  1217. 50:46Ah, so I wanted to know like I wanted
  1218. 50:48one suggestion like where people people
  1219. 50:50are telling me to focus more on AI and
  1220. 50:52fundamental stuff.
  1221. 50:54So, I'm so confused in being first year
  1222. 50:56this much I know I can't take and so
  1223. 50:58what would you suggest me like one
  1224. 50:59thing?
  1225. 51:03>> So, first of all,
  1226. 51:06um
  1227. 51:06don't feel alone, okay? There is um a
  1228. 51:09generation of kids that are um that are
  1229. 51:13um trying to grapple and they're caught
  1230. 51:15between the um the industry transition
  1231. 51:18that's happening around AI.
  1232. 51:20Um my suggestion to you and others in a
  1233. 51:23similar boat is that um you know, think
  1234. 51:26of AI as a tool. Your foundational
  1235. 51:29learning is still extremely valuable.
  1236. 51:33So, if you like uh programming or I
  1237. 51:36don't know what field you want to
  1238. 51:37pursue, but um
  1239. 51:40you know, my one suggestion would be is
  1240. 51:42that
  1241. 51:43um
  1242. 51:44in India this is done correctly where
  1243. 51:46you have the computer science
  1244. 51:48engineering where you are not just
  1245. 51:51learning software as in just higher
  1246. 51:54level application program, but you're
  1247. 51:56learning the foundation of of computer
  1248. 51:58architecture or computer networking or
  1249. 52:02you know, various aspects of programming
  1250. 52:04languages and all that, right? So, those
  1251. 52:06are still extremely relevant skills
  1252. 52:09because end of the day, those are
  1253. 52:11foundation skills. It's like learning
  1254. 52:13the alphabets of the language. So,
  1255. 52:16continue to pursue that. What I would
  1256. 52:19suggest though is that if you are in,
  1257. 52:22you know, interested in like application
  1258. 52:24level programming, then that whole
  1259. 52:27domain is going to go through a
  1260. 52:28significant transformation in the next,
  1261. 52:31you know, whatever, right? 2 to 5 years.
  1262. 52:33So, the best way to to do that is stay
  1263. 52:37connected. There are a lot of online
  1264. 52:40places where you can learn about how
  1265. 52:43software programming is changing or
  1266. 52:46how's how are some of the tools being,
  1267. 52:48you know, developed differently using
  1268. 52:51AI. So, make sure that you're you're
  1269. 52:55keeping yourself updated because end of
  1270. 52:58the day, you will get a job. You will
  1271. 53:00have a great career
  1272. 53:02as long as you know the foundational
  1273. 53:04skills of various aspects of computer
  1274. 53:07architecture and so on and then you are
  1275. 53:09very diligently learning the new tools
  1276. 53:12and then you are supplementing that with
  1277. 53:14like some hands-on stuff, whether it's
  1278. 53:16through internship and so on, you know,
  1279. 53:18you will be totally fine. Don't don't
  1280. 53:20feel lost or confused. Just stay focused
  1281. 53:24on the foundational stuff and the rest
  1282. 53:26of it,
  1283. 53:27you know, it will come to you. Just make
  1284. 53:29sure that you don't just put your head,
  1285. 53:31you know, cover your head in in the sand
  1286. 53:33and just pretend like you know, you're
  1287. 53:37that nothing is happening around you.
  1288. 53:38Understand that the world is changing,
  1289. 53:41but be aware of the changes and react
  1290. 53:43accordingly.
  1291. 53:49And one of the things that we do in
  1292. 53:51Asteer which probably we'll also include
  1293. 53:54in MCE is today we go to all the all the
  1294. 53:58bits
  1295. 53:59and and some of the IITs where we do
  1296. 54:02hackathons, we do hands-on training to
  1297. 54:06kids about you know, the different AI
  1298. 54:09tools that are coming. We give talks. We
  1299. 54:12of course bring in a whole lot of
  1300. 54:14interns. And at least in Asteer for
  1301. 54:16every three employees we have an intern.
  1302. 54:19So you can imagine we we over index on
  1303. 54:22internship and and new college grads. I
  1304. 54:25don't believe currently we are doing
  1305. 54:27that with MCE. So we'll try and make
  1306. 54:29sure that we include MCE
  1307. 54:32as a place that we will do all that.
  1308. 54:36>> Yeah, thank you for that Sanjay.
  1309. 54:38This
  1310. 54:40Yes, Sanjay. I was the other day
  1311. 54:42talking to you about conducting
  1312. 54:44hackathon at MCE.
  1313. 54:46Also the internship. Thanks for
  1314. 54:48mentioning that.
  1315. 54:52>> Yeah, no worries.
  1316. 54:53>> Yeah. And also
  1317. 54:55we have question another two questions,
  1318. 54:57but I feel that you have already
  1319. 54:59answered that. Like building long-term
  1320. 55:02financial freedom. What strategies and
  1321. 55:04financial habits would you recommend to
  1322. 55:06young engineers who are inspired to
  1323. 55:08achieve financial freedom
  1324. 55:10early in their careers. You have already
  1325. 55:12told your journey that you
  1326. 55:16>> So
  1327. 55:17I I want to I want to make a couple of
  1328. 55:18points on that if it's okay because I
  1329. 55:20think it's
  1330. 55:21I mean whoever asked this question here
  1331. 55:24>> It's from the that's from the kids, the
  1332. 55:26students.
  1333. 55:26>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's it's a credit
  1334. 55:28to you guys to start thinking about
  1335. 55:30financial independence.
  1336. 55:32Uh
  1337. 55:34See, um Um
  1338. 55:35you know, I used to work in different
  1339. 55:38places uh just to make sure that um
  1340. 55:42that you are you know, it's a it's
  1341. 55:44actually very if I think about my
  1342. 55:46entrepreneurial journey, it's amazing
  1343. 55:49how I can always trace a certain
  1344. 55:51situation that I'm in right now to
  1345. 55:53something I did during my school days or
  1346. 55:56college days.
  1347. 55:58You know, um for example, whether it's a
  1348. 56:00negotiating skill. Like in India, you
  1349. 56:02negotiate for everything.
  1350. 56:04Same exact the the basics of negotiation
  1351. 56:07does not change you know, when you get
  1352. 56:10into a professional setup or when you're
  1353. 56:12an entrepreneur. You know, how do you
  1354. 56:14position something? What's the um
  1355. 56:16uh the entry point? So, similarly with
  1356. 56:19financial independence and how you go
  1357. 56:21about like uh doing stuff. Um you have
  1358. 56:24to start it during the college days, but
  1359. 56:26make sure that you know, don't overthink
  1360. 56:28about it meaning prioritize learning. Um
  1361. 56:32You know, sometimes you could you could
  1362. 56:34get carried away by earning few few
  1363. 56:36rupees um early on, but that takes time
  1364. 56:40away. If that you know, meaning don't
  1365. 56:42prioritize the money part, prioritize
  1366. 56:45the learning part at the stage that you
  1367. 56:47are. Um you can always make money as
  1368. 56:50long as you're learning things in the
  1369. 56:52right way and you're equipping yourself.
  1370. 56:54Uh but at same time, it's fun to get a
  1371. 56:56little money on on your hand if you are
  1372. 56:58able to um
  1373. 56:59as part of your learning translate that
  1374. 57:01into some money that you can use for uh
  1375. 57:04further enhancing or just having fun.
  1376. 57:08>> Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Sanjay uh
  1377. 57:13It's really I feeling amazing. I still
  1378. 57:16remember those days when you Rupa were
  1379. 57:18moving around together. I always felt
  1380. 57:22that as I told you earlier also that
  1381. 57:24great brains are moving together and
  1382. 57:27it's
  1383. 57:28it's really come true. That
  1384. 57:31I remember those days where Rupa Nayak,
  1385. 57:33Rupa B, you remember I think, Shaila and
  1386. 57:37uh
  1387. 57:37>> Yeah.
  1388. 57:37>> Uma was sitting in the first bench, me
  1389. 57:39at the second bench with Anu.
  1390. 57:42We were there together. Yeah, they were
  1391. 57:44always being the first, Rupa B and Rupa
  1392. 57:47Nayak, always.
  1393. 57:49It's lovely to see that uh the same
  1394. 57:51intelligence and curiosity has continued
  1395. 57:54to evolve with the times. Uh great. I
  1396. 57:57always used to feel like yeah, great
  1397. 57:59brains, but we used to feel that you'd
  1398. 58:01be a good uh software developer of
  1399. 58:04of that kind, but I never imagined you
  1400. 58:07being such a great entrepreneur.
  1401. 58:09>> Uh-huh.
  1402. 58:10>> Very nice getting the awards. Still
  1403. 58:12great.
  1404. 58:14It's lovely to see.
  1405. 58:15>> Thank you. Thank you.
  1406. 58:16>> Yeah,
  1407. 58:17I could see you when I question I have a
  1408. 58:22Hi, ma'am. I have a question about how
  1409. 58:24to get internships. Like before it was
  1410. 58:26easy to get into internships and hiring
  1411. 58:28process, but now it is it's so difficult
  1412. 58:31to get into companies. Any advices on
  1413. 58:33this, please?
  1414. 58:35Okay, I think he had uh yeah, one guy
  1415. 58:38called Rahul has popped out that
  1416. 58:40question.
  1417. 58:42>> Yeah, so
  1418. 58:44again, I I mean, to be very candid, I'm
  1419. 58:46not uh fully aware of how internships
  1420. 58:49work in India, um but I can tell you
  1421. 58:53what we do in Estera India. So, we have
  1422. 58:55offices in Bangalore,
  1423. 58:57uh Hyderabad, and Ahmedabad.
  1424. 59:00>> Okay.
  1425. 59:00>> So, we are very intentional about
  1426. 59:03internship.
  1427. 59:04So, if you guys are interested, um
  1428. 59:07you know, later on through uh we can
  1429. 59:09share some links where you can apply.
  1430. 59:12Um
  1431. 59:13uh but in general, you know, I would say
  1432. 59:18um
  1433. 59:18do some pre-work as in like, you know,
  1434. 59:22during the during the school year
  1435. 59:24college year, um don't wait for
  1436. 59:27preparing or applying for internship
  1437. 59:30once the the time comes. Like, make
  1438. 59:32yourself relevant and stand out. And
  1439. 59:34that you can do by, you know, obviously,
  1440. 59:38um, not just doing well in your grades,
  1441. 59:40but also learning about different
  1442. 59:43things, um, whether it is, uh,
  1443. 59:45you know, through online or or other
  1444. 59:47forums. If you're able to put yourself
  1445. 59:50in a, um, situation where when the time
  1446. 59:53comes for an internship opportunity, uh,
  1447. 59:56your resume pops out because you have
  1448. 59:59credentials or you've done things beyond
  1449. 1:00:02standard coursework. That gives a very
  1450. 1:00:04good signal to folks that, "Hey, you are
  1451. 1:00:06not just someone that's just trying to
  1452. 1:00:08cruise by. You're willing to do
  1453. 1:00:10something more than that." And that is
  1454. 1:00:13one way in which I I would suggest you
  1455. 1:00:15stand out. And then opportunities are
  1456. 1:00:18always going to be limited. Competition
  1457. 1:00:20will be high. So, and you might not get
  1458. 1:00:23internships, whatever, right? But it's
  1459. 1:00:25okay. I I want to make sure that you
  1460. 1:00:27guys understand the stage that you are
  1461. 1:00:29in life. You know, you have to learn to
  1462. 1:00:33to stay in the fight because you have
  1463. 1:00:35time on your side. Even if you stumble,
  1464. 1:00:37you fall, you don't get something,
  1465. 1:00:39you'll always get something, um, beyond
  1466. 1:00:42that, okay? So, you have to make sure
  1467. 1:00:43that you stay engaged. And that is
  1468. 1:00:46probably the most important thing you
  1469. 1:00:48can do. If you stop being engaged, if
  1470. 1:00:50you stop learning, if you start feeling
  1471. 1:00:52like the world is coming to an end
  1472. 1:00:54because you didn't get an internship,
  1473. 1:00:56then, you know, you are simply missing
  1474. 1:00:58out.
  1475. 1:01:01>> I think, uh, since I have some idea
  1476. 1:01:03about what's happening here, uh, Rahul,
  1477. 1:01:05you can get in touch with me. I can help
  1478. 1:01:07because I'm already helping few of the
  1479. 1:01:09MC students.
  1480. 1:01:17>> I I think, Sanjay, thank you. Thank you
  1481. 1:01:19for everything. And I I we are at the
  1482. 1:01:21close of the hour
  1483. 1:01:23and it was a lovely session and
  1484. 1:01:24brilliant. I enjoyed every bit of it.
  1485. 1:01:27Gita madam, can you uh huh?
  1486. 1:01:29>> Yes, sir.
  1487. 1:01:32Yeah, I liked it, sir. Really, we
  1488. 1:01:34enjoyed the whole session. 1 hour I was
  1489. 1:01:36just thinking, yeah, it's already 1
  1490. 1:01:38hour.
  1491. 1:01:40>> Sanjay, one one one point I probably
  1492. 1:01:42it's not a debate of debate at this
  1493. 1:01:44point of time.
  1494. 1:01:46See, for me one issue with AI, you know,
  1495. 1:01:48I I work on the on the product side
  1496. 1:01:49also. For me issue with AI which I'm
  1497. 1:01:51feeling how it is different from rest of
  1498. 1:01:54the other
  1499. 1:01:55internet or
  1500. 1:01:57computer or any of the other thing is
  1501. 1:01:59here sometimes I believe that, you know,
  1502. 1:02:01like the way you mentioned, the
  1503. 1:02:03intelligence is getting outsourced.
  1504. 1:02:05So far either knowledge was getting
  1505. 1:02:06outsourced, but AI my worry is that, you
  1506. 1:02:08know,
  1507. 1:02:09like the way you said, probably with the
  1508. 1:02:11agents could replace 50% of your
  1509. 1:02:13workforce.
  1510. 1:02:14Probably that is something which may
  1511. 1:02:16have a much more profound impact than
  1512. 1:02:18what
  1513. 1:02:19probably people are thinking today. So
  1514. 1:02:20that's my worry with the AI part. I
  1515. 1:02:23don't know where it is going to lead.
  1516. 1:02:25That's
  1517. 1:02:27>> Yeah.
  1518. 1:02:28No, I think, see, that's what I'm
  1519. 1:02:29saying. That's a reality. I know you're
  1520. 1:02:31getting worried or
  1521. 1:02:33but you know, I I'm just being candid to
  1522. 1:02:36all of you guys. That is what's going to
  1523. 1:02:38happen. But the question becomes what do
  1524. 1:02:40you do about it, right? Um
  1525. 1:02:42I mean, same thing I'm sure that
  1526. 1:02:45people worried when um
  1527. 1:02:47when
  1528. 1:02:48you know, yeah, computer came or you
  1529. 1:02:50know, trains replaced horses, whatever,
  1530. 1:02:52right?
  1531. 1:02:53But that's been the history of mankind.
  1532. 1:02:56So I do believe that we will persevere
  1533. 1:02:58and figure things out, but the most
  1534. 1:03:01important thing is to stay engaged. If
  1535. 1:03:03you are, you know, if you don't, then
  1536. 1:03:05you are simply becoming irrelevant on
  1537. 1:03:07day one.
  1538. 1:03:08So I do believe that there will be
  1539. 1:03:10changes. There will be new jobs created,
  1540. 1:03:12new kinds of jobs than than what you see
  1541. 1:03:15today.
  1542. 1:03:16Um you know, medical research and other
  1543. 1:03:19things would become lot more efficient.
  1544. 1:03:21So, but in general, I think there will
  1545. 1:03:24be new openings that will come up in the
  1546. 1:03:26next, uh, let's say 2 to 5 years. You
  1547. 1:03:28just have to be ready and prepared when
  1548. 1:03:31these openings come up and if you don't
  1549. 1:03:33know how to use and program and create
  1550. 1:03:35AI agents, then you're not ready and you
  1551. 1:03:37will simply get overlooked.
  1552. 1:03:42>> I think Anand has a question,
  1553. 1:03:44Gita madam.
  1554. 1:03:45Anand, I think I saw a question from
  1555. 1:03:46you.
  1556. 1:03:48>> Yeah,
  1557. 1:03:49there are two hands up, sir.
  1558. 1:03:51>> Okay.
  1559. 1:03:51>> Yeah, I don't have a question, but if I
  1560. 1:03:53have, uh, if I have the permission of
  1561. 1:03:55Sanjay, I just want to share just two
  1562. 1:03:57things. And I'm 100% sure Sanjay has
  1563. 1:04:00done both of these things even though he
  1564. 1:04:01didn't, uh, address it.
  1565. 1:04:04One is,
  1566. 1:04:05please have fun while doing all these
  1567. 1:04:08things. Don't don't lose Don't lose the
  1568. 1:04:10larger things of life that Don't make it
  1569. 1:04:13as a as a running on a treadmill. Yes,
  1570. 1:04:15you're running, you're sweating, not
  1571. 1:04:16going anywhere. Have fun with it. And
  1572. 1:04:19I'm sure 100,000 times sure that Sanjay
  1573. 1:04:22has had fun all along. Otherwise, he can
  1574. 1:04:24never be successful.
  1575. 1:04:26And the second important thing to have
  1576. 1:04:28fun is please don't neglect the health
  1577. 1:04:31of your mind.
  1578. 1:04:33Unless your mind is healthy, including
  1579. 1:04:36the body, but unless the mind is healthy
  1580. 1:04:38with good habits,
  1581. 1:04:40you cannot have fun and you cannot have
  1582. 1:04:42success. And I'm 100,000% sure that
  1583. 1:04:45Sanjay has kept his mind healthy all
  1584. 1:04:48along. Otherwise,
  1585. 1:04:50his his radiance on his face and his
  1586. 1:04:52smile tells that he he would never have
  1587. 1:04:54been successful.
  1588. 1:04:56So, please don't neglect these two.
  1589. 1:04:58>> Yeah, absolutely.
  1590. 1:05:00>> Very good advice, sir.
  1591. 1:05:02>> Yeah, you know, good point. I mean, I
  1592. 1:05:04think just quickly I would say two
  1593. 1:05:05points, right? One is that,
  1594. 1:05:07uh, exactly like how it was told. See, I
  1595. 1:05:11think you don't view life as an as an
  1596. 1:05:13end goal or a finish line. It's a
  1597. 1:05:15journey. Every day you need to learn how
  1598. 1:05:18to enjoy it. Doesn't matter where you
  1599. 1:05:20are. So, as long as you're enjoying the
  1600. 1:05:22journey, you'll always be fine. And the
  1601. 1:05:24mental health piece of it is absolutely
  1602. 1:05:26true.
  1603. 1:05:27Um meaning your ability to
  1604. 1:05:31to to
  1605. 1:05:32deal with several things that come like
  1606. 1:05:34on a daily basis. For me,
  1607. 1:05:36you know, I'm dealing with the hardest
  1608. 1:05:38problems in the company just given the
  1609. 1:05:40role that I have. And the way it comes
  1610. 1:05:43down to is your mental ability to sort
  1611. 1:05:46of have the temperament, have the
  1612. 1:05:47patience, have the fortitude to deal
  1613. 1:05:50with it in a in a calm and composed way.
  1614. 1:05:53And that requires um
  1615. 1:05:55means I'm sure you are all dealing with
  1616. 1:05:57your own set of challenges.
  1617. 1:05:59Um
  1618. 1:06:00but I think
  1619. 1:06:01what becomes important is how calm can
  1620. 1:06:04you stay in those situations. Um
  1621. 1:06:08you know, for me it comes down to every
  1622. 1:06:10day I need to reset myself. Like I every
  1623. 1:06:13day I wake up at 5:30, I work out, I do
  1624. 1:06:16my yoga,
  1625. 1:06:17um get ready for the day, meaning the
  1626. 1:06:20discipline of managing your mental
  1627. 1:06:22health, your physical health,
  1628. 1:06:25and and you know, of course pursuing
  1629. 1:06:28whatever your career ambition is. All of
  1630. 1:06:30those things become important. And if
  1631. 1:06:32you don't have those things, then you
  1632. 1:06:34know, you can't succeed. And just one
  1633. 1:06:36quick analogy I'll give is
  1634. 1:06:38think about this tool. You need you need
  1635. 1:06:40minimum of three legs. Okay? And and one
  1636. 1:06:43leg is your health. The other leg could
  1637. 1:06:46be your profession. And the third leg
  1638. 1:06:48could be your relationship. Each three
  1639. 1:06:50things are important. Otherwise, your
  1640. 1:06:52life will simply come crashing down.
  1641. 1:06:58>> Rightly said, Sanjay.
  1642. 1:07:02Any more questions?
  1643. 1:07:04>> Yes, ma'am. There are Pratixa had a
  1644. 1:07:06question and Arun
  1645. 1:07:08was also raising his hands. I think we
  1646. 1:07:10can take two more questions, last two
  1647. 1:07:11questions.
  1648. 1:07:12>> Last two questions, please.
  1649. 1:07:14>> Hey, uh
  1650. 1:07:19Hi Sanjay. Hello Geeta.
  1651. 1:07:22Hey, it's great to see you. I'm a
  1652. 1:07:25I'm an alum I'm an alumnus as well and
  1653. 1:07:27uh
  1654. 1:07:28happy to be here and I've been listening
  1655. 1:07:30to Sanjay and all of you guys. It's a
  1656. 1:07:33really a
  1657. 1:07:34a moment of
  1658. 1:07:36um what we should say uh great
  1659. 1:07:38belonging, right? So,
  1660. 1:07:40uh
  1661. 1:07:41I think one good point which Sanjay
  1662. 1:07:43touched is um
  1663. 1:07:45how prepared you will be in the next um
  1664. 1:07:47two to five years. So, my probably my
  1665. 1:07:50thinking I'm sure my senior and my
  1666. 1:07:52brother's classmate Kiran a pro in in
  1667. 1:07:56industry and then in this uh
  1668. 1:07:58um development uh
  1669. 1:08:01focus he's been having. One thought I
  1670. 1:08:03kind of
  1671. 1:08:04wanted to say is
  1672. 1:08:06how can our syllabi cover this aspect,
  1673. 1:08:10right? Right? Like you talked about
  1674. 1:08:11hackathons, you talked about
  1675. 1:08:12internships, etc. Of course, that is
  1676. 1:08:15like a
  1677. 1:08:16have hackathons happen always and during
  1678. 1:08:19the curriculum as well it happens. The
  1679. 1:08:21internships normally are
  1680. 1:08:23um mostly interspersed um
  1681. 1:08:25across your third year, fourth year, and
  1682. 1:08:27so on. And even post the um college um
  1683. 1:08:31passout period. But to be in that uh
  1684. 1:08:34let's say the game of preparedness. So,
  1685. 1:08:36can we do something in the
  1686. 1:08:38uh within the college times or within
  1687. 1:08:40these hackathons?
  1688. 1:08:41What can be brought in as some
  1689. 1:08:43activities and kind of
  1690. 1:08:45things which make students think about
  1691. 1:08:48yes, AI will
  1692. 1:08:50come in in in a big scale.
  1693. 1:08:52Uh what is that I can be prepared with?
  1694. 1:08:54So, in those in those lines we can think
  1695. 1:08:56of introducing some activities or even
  1696. 1:08:59thought process, right? So,
  1697. 1:09:00Yeah.
  1698. 1:09:01Hackathons to prepare you guys to do
  1699. 1:09:04that. Uh How prepared you will be for
  1700. 1:09:06those situations. Maybe those kind of
  1701. 1:09:07ideas could be good to develop Gita. So,
  1702. 1:09:10that's what I wanted to say. Yeah.
  1703. 1:09:12>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
  1704. 1:09:13We are in the process, sir. And also I
  1705. 1:09:15have asked support from Sanjay
  1706. 1:09:19regarding that.
  1707. 1:09:20And one thing audience,
  1708. 1:09:24I had kept it as a special moment to
  1709. 1:09:27appreciate Sanjay about his EY World
  1710. 1:09:30Entrepreneur of the Year 2026.
  1711. 1:09:33He was honored at the prestigious global
  1712. 1:09:36award ceremony held in Monaco in May
  1713. 1:09:392026. Am I right, Sanjay?
  1714. 1:09:42>> You're right.
  1715. 1:09:42>> We are very proud of you at the May
  1716. 1:09:442026. Very proud.
  1717. 1:09:47Uh yeah. And please convey my wishes to
  1718. 1:09:51Roopa Naik.
  1719. 1:09:53I think she's sleeping.
  1720. 1:09:55>> She just walked by. Yes. No, I will let
  1721. 1:09:58her know. Thank you so much. Yes.
  1722. 1:10:00>> I now probably conclude this. Is that
  1723. 1:10:03fine? Or we'll take up one more
  1724. 1:10:05question. Any more questions?
  1725. 1:10:09I think no.
  1726. 1:10:11Fine.
  1727. 1:10:12I now request Dr. Mohan Alagappa to
  1728. 1:10:15formally give a
  1729. 1:10:17thanks.
  1730. 1:10:17>> Pratiksha was there with a question.
  1731. 1:10:19>> Okay. Fine. Okay. Fine. Okay.
  1732. 1:10:22Fine.
  1733. 1:10:23>> you can please ask.
  1734. 1:10:25>> Hello, sir. If you don't mind, I have a
  1735. 1:10:27question, please.
  1736. 1:10:29>> Absolutely. No mind at all.
  1737. 1:10:33>> Um sir, since you've been both an
  1738. 1:10:35entrepreneur and an engineer,
  1739. 1:10:37so let's take an example of like Elon
  1740. 1:10:39Musk with a concept of making reusable
  1741. 1:10:42space rockets. He was mocked then
  1742. 1:10:45decades ago. But now he's made it into
  1743. 1:10:47reality. And just like that, how do you
  1744. 1:10:49figure out if the idea is really Is it
  1745. 1:10:53If it is feasible and possible and if
  1746. 1:10:55it's just fictional? how do we recognize
  1747. 1:10:58that?
  1748. 1:11:00>> That's a great question and a deep
  1749. 1:11:02question.
  1750. 1:11:03Um
  1751. 1:11:04See, this is what defines an
  1752. 1:11:07entrepreneur, right? So, you can be an
  1753. 1:11:09engineer, which is great career and all
  1754. 1:11:11that. Um
  1755. 1:11:13In entrepreneurship, what happens is
  1756. 1:11:15that you're able to manifest the future.
  1757. 1:11:18Um
  1758. 1:11:19and you have the um
  1759. 1:11:21the um execution um focus or execution
  1760. 1:11:26capability to deliver what you are um
  1761. 1:11:29stating as if as a future state.
  1762. 1:11:32So, it you know, lot of times it's easy
  1763. 1:11:35to say um that, "Hey, you know, you want
  1764. 1:11:38to use reusable rockets or you want to
  1765. 1:11:41fly to Mars someday." There many, many
  1766. 1:11:43people that that say that. Of course,
  1767. 1:11:45there is lot of movies about things like
  1768. 1:11:48that, right?
  1769. 1:11:50But, really I think that is less
  1770. 1:11:51important than what Elon has been able
  1771. 1:11:54to do um as part of how to execute and
  1772. 1:11:58deliver to that mission.
  1773. 1:12:00Meaning, um that is probably the hardest
  1774. 1:12:03part um to achieve.
  1775. 1:12:05I've had the opportunity to meet Elon
  1776. 1:12:07few times, but what I find amazing about
  1777. 1:12:11him um is
  1778. 1:12:13you know, it's not those big statements
  1779. 1:12:15he makes, but then what does he do after
  1780. 1:12:17that?
  1781. 1:12:18Right? Uh and that really comes down to
  1782. 1:12:21the um the execution of that vision, the
  1783. 1:12:25people that he puts together, the
  1784. 1:12:27resources that he uh he puts into it,
  1785. 1:12:30and that single-minded commitment to
  1786. 1:12:32that one goal. Because invariably, there
  1787. 1:12:35will be a a million things that will
  1788. 1:12:38tell you that it cannot be done.
  1789. 1:12:41But, the spirit of entrepreneurship is
  1790. 1:12:43is simply that. How do you
  1791. 1:12:46um how do you react when someone tells
  1792. 1:12:49you it cannot be done? Whether it is a
  1793. 1:12:51technical challenge, it could be a
  1794. 1:12:53commercial challenge, it could be a you
  1795. 1:12:55know, some legal challenge or whatever
  1796. 1:12:58it is.
  1797. 1:12:59And that is the essence of
  1798. 1:13:00entrepreneurship is to basically say
  1799. 1:13:03when someone says it cannot be done for
  1800. 1:13:05whatever reason, what are the actions
  1801. 1:13:08you take and you transform that no to an
  1802. 1:13:11to an S
  1803. 1:13:13either based on your intellectual
  1804. 1:13:15capability of you or your team, your
  1805. 1:13:17perseverance of it, your ability to like
  1806. 1:13:20break down that no into a small set of
  1807. 1:13:23no's and then you tackle each one of
  1808. 1:13:25them and convert that into S. So, that
  1809. 1:13:27is probably the bigger lesson to be
  1810. 1:13:30learned when someone like Elon or or
  1811. 1:13:32Steve Jobs when he was around say when
  1812. 1:13:35it comes to entrepreneurship and that's
  1813. 1:13:37really the crux of it. If you want to be
  1814. 1:13:40a great entrepreneur, you need to
  1815. 1:13:43A have the audacity to have a grand
  1816. 1:13:46vision and then you need to have the
  1817. 1:13:48discipline of um of delivering to that
  1818. 1:13:51vision through a series of
  1819. 1:13:54acting actions and activities
  1820. 1:13:57where when the whole world is saying no,
  1821. 1:13:59you're saying yes, it can be done and
  1822. 1:14:02you keep staying true to the mission and
  1823. 1:14:04that's that's what I would say and and
  1824. 1:14:06that's you know, really the
  1825. 1:14:09what what you should be doing as well.
  1826. 1:14:12Talk is easy. Ideas are cheap. I'll be
  1827. 1:14:15very candid with you. Everyone has
  1828. 1:14:17ideas. Everyone has money as well. The
  1829. 1:14:20key to success is how can you um stay
  1830. 1:14:25true to the mission, execute and deliver
  1831. 1:14:28and not get distracted by the next shiny
  1832. 1:14:30object or get distracted by what others
  1833. 1:14:33are doing, but simply have the
  1834. 1:14:35conviction to plow forward and get the
  1835. 1:14:38stuff done.
  1836. 1:14:44>> Is Is clear Pratiksha?
  1837. 1:14:48>> Uh yes, sir. Thank you. It was really
  1838. 1:14:49insightful, yeah. Thank you.
  1839. 1:14:52>> And one day you'll be you'll be an
  1840. 1:14:53entrepreneur, I can sense from your
  1841. 1:14:55voice. So, go big, okay? Don't go half
  1842. 1:14:58measure.
  1843. 1:14:59>> Yeah, you're right, Sanjay.
  1844. 1:15:01Thank you, sir.
  1845. 1:15:03Yeah.
  1846. 1:15:05Yes. Thank you, Sanjay. Thank you for
  1847. 1:15:07giving us more than 1 hour. We had You
  1848. 1:15:10had promised for 6:00 to 7:00. It is
  1849. 1:15:12already 7:15.
  1850. 1:15:13>> It's It's 6:00 45 a.m. here. I have all
  1851. 1:15:16day, but yes, no, thank you so much for
  1852. 1:15:18hosting me. Thank you for uh
  1853. 1:15:21for uh all the kind words that you
  1854. 1:15:22shared. Thank you for the questions and
  1855. 1:15:24to all the folks that are online. Um um
  1856. 1:15:27you know, I I would leave you with this
  1857. 1:15:29thought, which is um uh make your own
  1858. 1:15:32story. Yeah.
  1859. 1:15:35>> Yeah. Give the vote of thanks.
  1860. 1:15:37>> Okay.
  1861. 1:15:39>> Mohana?
  1862. 1:15:50Mohan Lakshmi?
  1863. 1:16:03>> Okay, I'll take it as a vote of thanks.
  1864. 1:16:05It's It's fine.
  1865. 1:16:06>> No, no, no, she is speaking. It's not
  1866. 1:16:08That's what I was trying to
  1867. 1:16:11It's not audible.
  1868. 1:16:13It's not audible here.
  1869. 1:16:16No.
  1870. 1:16:35>> Geetha madam, you can thank her on her
  1871. 1:16:37behalf.
  1872. 1:16:38>> Okay, sure.
  1873. 1:16:40I thought you
  1874. 1:16:41>> Am I audible now?
  1875. 1:16:42>> But Sanjay, it was a really really
  1876. 1:16:44privilege to have you.
  1877. 1:16:46>> Yeah.
  1878. 1:16:47>> So we are actually we are very happy and
  1879. 1:16:49honored to have you with us because I we
  1880. 1:16:53probably I think from the past 8 to 10
  1881. 1:16:56months I have heard Gita ma'am speaking
  1882. 1:16:58about you and Shivu Koteshwar sir and
  1883. 1:17:00she always
  1884. 1:17:02because she herself wants to see our
  1885. 1:17:04students and our college
  1886. 1:17:06build that entrepreneurial ecosystem in
  1887. 1:17:09the entire region. So she always start
  1888. 1:17:11started telling wow it is so nice to see
  1889. 1:17:14them my classmates growing into global
  1890. 1:17:16leaders. And today hearing to you
  1891. 1:17:18hearing to your journey and the way you
  1892. 1:17:21simply and you just put out things
  1893. 1:17:24in a very simple manner and in a
  1894. 1:17:27all the practical things also
  1895. 1:17:29you explain in a very nice manner sir.
  1896. 1:17:31So you also told like one thing which I
  1897. 1:17:34like the most was uh you told that you
  1898. 1:17:37told our student Dhanush don't feel lost
  1899. 1:17:39or confused by how technology is
  1900. 1:17:42changing. So you wanted you want
  1901. 1:17:44students to keep the fundamental strong.
  1902. 1:17:45I think this is something that everyone
  1903. 1:17:47should
  1904. 1:17:48keep in mind.
  1905. 1:17:50Stay updated and gain hands-on
  1906. 1:17:52experience. And your journey of your the
  1907. 1:17:55two examples of your transition that you
  1908. 1:17:57gave are are really something that even
  1909. 1:18:00we have to think about. So when an
  1910. 1:18:02opportunity arises how whether we are
  1911. 1:18:04able to take that risk and
  1912. 1:18:07decide upon our take a decision upon our
  1913. 1:18:09thoughts and move forward or give up and
  1914. 1:18:12stay back. So these two examples were
  1915. 1:18:15really motivating for us.
  1916. 1:18:17So and thank you for
  1917. 1:18:19connecting so early in the morning. I
  1918. 1:18:21can see the sun rising behind you.
  1919. 1:18:25>> Yes. No, thank you thank you.
  1920. 1:18:28No, thank you so much.
  1921. 1:18:32>> You will not believe how
  1922. 1:18:34Kitti sir has been a part of this
  1923. 1:18:36session
  1924. 1:18:38always there whenever we have bridging
  1925. 1:18:40generations and this is the second
  1926. 1:18:42season in the sixth episode. So, thank
  1927. 1:18:45you Kitty sir for always being with us.
  1928. 1:18:47We totally appreciate it and special
  1929. 1:18:50thanks to
  1930. 1:18:50>> thank me Mohan, it's okay.
  1931. 1:18:52It's always lovely to listen to
  1932. 1:18:53different people, correct?
  1933. 1:18:57>> But we are thankful to you, sir.
  1934. 1:19:00>> Yes.
  1935. 1:19:00>> So, thank you Sanjay sir. Thank you once
  1936. 1:19:02again.
  1937. 1:19:03>> No, thank you. This has been a
  1938. 1:19:05privilege. This has been a privilege. Um
  1939. 1:19:08>> Sometimes you please make time to be at
  1940. 1:19:10MC.
  1941. 1:19:11>> Yes, I would love to and I would like to
  1942. 1:19:13do, you know, um more to to make sure we
  1943. 1:19:17can help everyone there. So, I will talk
  1944. 1:19:19to you separately but at least we'll
  1945. 1:19:22we'll make sure that um
  1946. 1:19:24whatever I can help, uh what Astera can
  1947. 1:19:26help, we will try and make sure that um
  1948. 1:19:29MC um
  1949. 1:19:31grows on. I mean, I learned a lot
  1950. 1:19:33growing up in MC, not just the education
  1951. 1:19:35part but just the fact of how do you
  1952. 1:19:38you know, go through your four years in
  1953. 1:19:40college, just life I would say.
  1954. 1:19:42And that enabled me to get to where I am
  1955. 1:19:45today. So, I'm forever grateful to to
  1956. 1:19:47the to the to the university, to the
  1957. 1:19:49college um and to all the teachers.
  1958. 1:19:52It was good to see uh Mr. Arun there as
  1959. 1:19:54well. Uh he taught me
  1960. 1:19:59He he did teach me programming so I'm
  1961. 1:20:02that got me started but it's also I want
  1962. 1:20:04to say um
  1963. 1:20:05you know,
  1964. 1:20:07it's it's created who I am today and for
  1965. 1:20:09many of you guys listening, I would say
  1966. 1:20:11um you know, um
  1967. 1:20:13make sure that um
  1968. 1:20:15that you take the opportunity. Um don't
  1969. 1:20:18just survive in life, thrive in life,
  1970. 1:20:20dream big, uh work hard and then you all
  1971. 1:20:24will become much bigger entrepreneurs
  1972. 1:20:26than much more successful than what I
  1973. 1:20:28was able to achieve. So, thank Thank
  1974. 1:20:30much.
  1975. 1:20:31>> Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Sanjay.
  1976. 1:20:33>> All right. See you guys. Bye-bye.
  1977. 1:20:35>> Bye.
  1978. 1:20:35>> Bye-bye.

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