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  1. 0:00when we talk about modern state-backed
  2. 0:02information or influence campaigns on
  3. 0:04social media
  4. 0:06we still rely on the categories that
  5. 0:08were established 75 years ago to talk
  6. 0:10about state-backed propaganda efforts
  7. 0:12and those categories define different
  8. 0:14points in sort of a sliding
  9. 0:16scale between the overt and the covert
  10. 0:18so the terms we use are white
  11. 0:20black and gray propaganda disinformation
  12. 0:23accounts are websites
  13. 0:24the difference between those three
  14. 0:26categories is the
  15. 0:27white propaganda comes from a source
  16. 0:30that can be clearly identified so in the
  17. 0:32russia context
  18. 0:34this would be a youtube channel
  19. 0:36associated with rt
  20. 0:37sputnik's websites or a twitter account
  21. 0:40connected to a diplomat an embassy or
  22. 0:42government official
  23. 0:43the content may be false it may be
  24. 0:46misleading
  25. 0:47it may be accurate but you know the true
  26. 0:50source of the information
  27. 0:51on the opposite end of the scale are the
  28. 0:53black propaganda accounts
  29. 0:55so these are accounts that not only
  30. 0:56obfuscate the true source
  31. 0:58but they present themselves as being an
  32. 1:01average opinion within a targeted
  33. 1:03audience or targeted population
  34. 1:06or just present themselves as being sort
  35. 1:08of an average citizen
  36. 1:10but there clearly there's an effort to
  37. 1:12not only conceal the fact
  38. 1:14that there is a state connection uh but
  39. 1:16to present themselves as being something
  40. 1:18that they're
  41. 1:19not so the classic example of this was
  42. 1:21during the 2016 u.s presidential
  43. 1:23election and
  44. 1:23even before that looking at the internet
  45. 1:25research agency which set up
  46. 1:28over 3 000 accounts purporting to be
  47. 1:30real americans
  48. 1:31so those were you know african-american
  49. 1:34activists
  50. 1:35second amendment activists uh all of
  51. 1:37which were presenting views that were
  52. 1:40meant to further divide americans in a
  53. 1:43way that was obviously more damaging
  54. 1:45because it seemed to be coming from
  55. 1:47what appeared to be if you looked at
  56. 1:49their profile to be from real americans
  57. 1:51so it was completely hidden
  58. 1:53and removed from having any state
  59. 1:55connection
  60. 1:56in between those two you have the gray
  61. 1:59propaganda accounts or the gray websites
  62. 2:02in the classic sense what typically we
  63. 2:05referred to
  64. 2:06when you're talking about great
  65. 2:07propaganda would have been like a carve
  66. 2:10out
  67. 2:11newspaper in a developing country that
  68. 2:14was financed by a foreign intelligence
  69. 2:15service so
  70. 2:17you know one of the classic examples if
  71. 2:18you look back at the hiv
  72. 2:20aids disinformation campaign run by the
  73. 2:22soviets was the fact that that first
  74. 2:24appeared
  75. 2:25in a kind of far-flung indian newspaper
  76. 2:28called the patriot post that was in fact
  77. 2:30funded by soviet intelligence so we
  78. 2:32still see evidence of that to some
  79. 2:34degree we'll see websites and blogs that
  80. 2:37the financing is not clear there are
  81. 2:39connections sometimes tenuous
  82. 2:40connections that appear to point back to
  83. 2:42moscow or beijing
  84. 2:44or tehran but they're difficult to
  85. 2:46establish
  86. 2:47but it also kind of now includes this
  87. 2:50cocktail of different
  88. 2:51personas and characters on social media
  89. 2:53and some of those
  90. 2:54may in fact be real americans and we
  91. 2:56know to be real americans
  92. 2:58but they're the ones who often are the
  93. 3:00uh guest
  94. 3:01experts on rt uh they're writing op-eds
  95. 3:04and opinion pieces
  96. 3:05so we see kind of this two-way flow of
  97. 3:07information from the white to the gray
  98. 3:10and back the other way again and it's
  99. 3:12important
  100. 3:13if you're kind of studying how a modern
  101. 3:15influencer information campaign works
  102. 3:18to understand the interplay between
  103. 3:20those three different areas
  104. 3:22because they all are interconnected in
  105. 3:24many ways
  106. 3:25so one of the research projects that we
  107. 3:27just recently completed
  108. 3:28was looking for example at how chinese
  109. 3:31officials on twitter
  110. 3:33uh have their messaging boosted quite
  111. 3:35often
  112. 3:36by these pro-ccp accounts that don't
  113. 3:39appear to be
  114. 3:40authentic people now these accounts
  115. 3:42quite often were not presenting
  116. 3:43themselves necessarily as americans or
  117. 3:45europeans but they were presenting
  118. 3:47themselves as being
  119. 3:48a genuine person who was expressing
  120. 3:50their genuine opinion
  121. 3:52about a geopolitical topic so what that
  122. 3:54was it what that's able to do
  123. 3:56is is create this sort of false illusion
  124. 3:58of popularity or support
  125. 4:01for chinese positions so if you have a
  126. 4:04key spokesperson for the ministry of
  127. 4:06foreign affairs who every time
  128. 4:08he tweets he's getting you know a
  129. 4:10thousand
  130. 4:11more likes than he would have because of
  131. 4:13this network of
  132. 4:14black disinformation accounts that
  133. 4:16creates not only the sort of illusion
  134. 4:19that this position is more popular but
  135. 4:21it also can gain kind of the back ends
  136. 4:23and the algorithms
  137. 4:25that present information to average
  138. 4:28viewers
  139. 4:29so again to kind of break down the three
  140. 4:31different areas
  141. 4:32if you're looking at white propaganda
  142. 4:34accounts these are accounts where we
  143. 4:35know the source
  144. 4:36black propaganda accounts we not only do
  145. 4:38not know the source they're
  146. 4:39intentionally presenting themselves as
  147. 4:41something they're not
  148. 4:42and then the gray areas again a bit more
  149. 4:44complicated
  150. 4:45where the source is sometimes not clear
  151. 4:48sometimes
  152. 4:48you may even know who the person is but
  153. 4:50it's unclear if they're being financed
  154. 4:52in some way by a state actor but we do
  155. 4:55know
  156. 4:56that those actors are often you know
  157. 4:58retweeted or amplified
  158. 5:00by the white and by the overt accounts
  159. 5:03so that's just kind of a way of thinking
  160. 5:05to to further understand that you can't
  161. 5:07look at
  162. 5:07any of these things in isolation
  163. 5:09otherwise you don't really kind of fully
  164. 5:11understand
  165. 5:12the complexity of how modern information
  166. 5:15operations work on social media

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