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0:00[Music]
0:02breathe Pakistan a dawn media initiative
0:05let's weather the change
0:09together Pakistan is a country at the
0:12front line of climate change Pakistan
0:14has witnessed one of the deadliest
0:15Monson in history the Pakistan's climate
0:18crisis 1,200 deaths it it caused the
0:22kind of Devastation we've never seen
0:24before unable to survive under the sky
0:27because of the heat Pakistan is
0:29experienced in a climate Calamity why is
0:32no one helping us from devastating
0:35floods to droughts and glacial outbursts
0:38the impact is both immediate and
0:40far-reaching
0:44as Pakistan grapples with these climate
0:47crisis how is the government
0:49International bodies and businesses
0:51working to mitigate and adapt to ongoing
0:53challenges will
0:55this be the last time a country is going
0:58to be victim of this
1:01station addressing these pressing
1:03challenges requires not just National
1:05efforts but also Global collaboration
1:07the dawn media breath Pakistan
1:09International climate change conference
1:11brought together experts policy makers
1:13and Business Leaders to forge Solutions
1:16the two-day event focused on making
1:18Pakistan climate resilient by 2047 while
1:20fostering Regional cooperation to combat
1:23shared environmental challenges we
1:26prioritized governance reforms
1:30policy
1:31execution and capacity building within
1:35no time initiatives such as 5e
1:405c as rooted in our homegrown
1:44transformation
1:45plan uran Pakistan we are
1:50integrating climate resilience into
1:54energy Equity
1:56connectivity and development Pakistan
1:59stands the front line of of the climate
2:03crisis we have endured devastating
2:07floods we have prolonged we have seen
2:11prolonged droughts glacial melting and
2:14Rising temperatures that threaten not
2:16just livelihoods but entire ecosystems
2:20cods in Pakistan have shaped adaptive
2:23climate jurisprudence which is globally
2:25recognized now issuing directives to
2:27government institutions to take con
2:30steps toward climate adaptation across
2:32various sectors we are also very
2:35grateful to we20 and that Forum in terms
2:40of working on a comprehensive um climate
2:43Prosperity plan which will be inshallah
2:46unveiled during April we are working on
2:50debt for climate swaps to diversify
2:53financing sources and reduce borrowing
2:56costs for development projects the
2:58Planning Commission is aligning
3:00development partner funded programs with
3:02Pakistan's climate agenda ensuring all
3:05Investments contribute to National
3:08priorities hope is that not just the
3:13politicians not just the government
3:15official but the non-governmental
3:18organizations the media houses they all
3:21realize that how important it is uh to
3:26work on the climate change issue to camp
3:29pain on the climate change issue at the
3:32heart of the discussions was the need
3:34for Clear acable climate communication
3:37World bank's Global director for climate
3:38change valry hickey underscored this
3:41challenge the original sin of climate
3:44change and the reason why climate
3:46denialism is on the rise again and why
3:49we're not
3:51responding to the climate crisis because
3:53that's all we have in our control to do
3:55as respond is because of the way we
3:57communicate about climate change
4:00even the fact that we talk about climate
4:02change nobody knows what the climate is
4:03everybody knows what weather is why
4:06don't we just talk about the weather why
4:08don't we talk in terms that people
4:10understand and be very wary of the
4:13audience we're speaking
4:15to because how we describe what we do in
4:18adaptation at the World Bank to an
4:20audience of some of the smartest most
4:22educated people on climate change from
4:24the public and private sectors is very
4:26different to how we would speak about it
4:28to a farming family and yet too often in
4:31the climate change Community we say the
4:32same thing to both a audiences and
4:34neither audience understands what we're
4:36talking about anymore so Communications
4:38really is the original sin of the
4:40climate Community but I want to speak
4:43very briefly about our approach to
4:45adaptation because it defines an awful
4:47lot of our approach to Knowledge
4:48Management in the space and it starts
4:51and ends with water because when it
4:55comes to adaptation water is to
4:57adaptation what energy is to mitigation
4:59it's the Alpha and the
5:01Omega because people experience climate
5:04change through floods or drought or
5:06desertification or land degradation
5:09whether is a sudden shock or whether is
5:11the slow moving
5:13misery that hundreds of millions of
5:15people experience that never is in the
5:17news because the fact that somebody
5:19can't make enough off of their land
5:22isn't very exciting or sexy not compared
5:24to fires in Los Angeles when
5:27multi-million dollar celebrity homes are
5:28burning down but it is a slow motion
5:32misery and of course when I say we
5:35experience it's how we experience
5:37climate change we don't really
5:39experience climate change we're all
5:41going to be fine it's the poor it's the
5:44people who are already downtrodden for
5:46whom already just simply through an
5:48accident of birth have a lot less than
5:50all of we have Pakistan's response to
5:52these climate challenges is led by its
5:54Ministry of climate change which has
5:56introduced policies to adapt and
5:58mitigate risk rks you must be knowing
6:01that on the electrical Vehicles the the
6:03policy has been launched and that also
6:05we are going gone through in that and
6:06then um there are uh you know uh the
6:09climate Finance strategies are also
6:11being planned and then how we can uh you
6:13know the uh public and um private
6:16Partnerships which is very much
6:17important uh in that how and then how we
6:20can raise the funding how we can raise
6:22the you know funds for the CL in the
6:24climate resilience way Pakistani
6:27government is taking steps not only to
6:29address climate adaptation but also lead
6:32the charge in policy development with an
6:34emphasis on collaboration across
6:36different
6:56sectors is very much blessed with
6:58glaciers but at the same time being a
7:00vulnerable as
7:11well aldah complete now we in the phase
7:14of the Glo
7:20third as Pakistan faces the mounting
7:23challenges of climate change the
7:25government is working to involve all
7:26stakeholders in these critical
7:28initiatives but I think where there's a
7:30will there is a way and under the
7:32leadership of The Honorable prime
7:33minister Mia Muhammad Shabah Sharif
7:35which who is the currently uh the prime
7:38the minister of in charge of this
7:39ministry he's the minister of this
7:42ministry uh which shows that how much
7:44close this subject to his heart that he
7:46has uh keeping this uh portfolio with
7:49him and in a way because this is
7:51something where lots of coordination has
7:53been needed lots of crosscutting
7:55subjects going to be discussed among the
7:57provinces because you know we are right
7:59now uh in federal and the after the 18th
8:03Amendment so many like so many things of
8:05subjects have been devolved to the
8:06provinces so in that way uh you know we
8:09there are so many challenges where it
8:11needs to be discussed on the higher
8:13level so it is very important so that
8:15the in the beginning like you know as we
8:17have seen there are in few years back
8:18there are no meetings being done and so
8:21many challenges so now U those how to if
8:24you say how to handle so that is one of
8:26the thing before that the collaboration
8:29cooperation was much more needed which
8:31somehow alhamdulillah uh under under the
8:34leadership of the Prime Minister M
8:36Mohammad Shabah Shar s we have gone
8:38through with that and now we are very uh
8:41actively on all way we are focusing on
8:43that despite the challenges Pakistan
8:46continues to move forward in addressing
8:48climate change in a coming time uh
8:50because this is one more important
8:52subject which is you know I always say
8:54under the sky everything is related to
8:57the climate change so all the Ministries
8:59which we are are having like if you talk
9:00about you see if you talk about health
9:03health yeah you if you talk about health
9:05that is very much Rel related to the
9:07climate change if you talk about water
9:09energy commerce food in fact food
9:11andsecurity that all is somehow you know
9:14being very much related to yes so we are
9:17talking about the climate Justice in
9:18this in cop this time um uh Prime worthy
9:23prime minister and my I myself and along
9:25with my team along with our for Pakistan
9:28we have raised this voice again again
9:29and again that we need to focus on
9:31climate Justice we need to focus on
9:33climate Finance in the fight against
9:35climate change provincial governments
9:36play a critical role in turning policies
9:39into action Punjab is of course leading
9:42uh case study in the region and we did
9:44have we have seen um lesser patients in
9:47hospital uh in last uh 5 months the smog
9:50season about 11% decrease in uh the
9:53patient count uh when it comes to this
9:56only the season of uh intense Smog and
9:59the Peaks that you've seen in last uh
10:01four five months and also about uh 2
10:05weeks reduction in uh the smog
10:07indicators and the Peaks that we've seen
10:09in last uh five months is and other and
10:11other evidence-based data that that our
10:14policies were uh meaningful smog of
10:17course as we all know uh South Asia has
10:20most polluted cities um when we compare
10:23it to the rest of the world for the
10:24first time Punjab is seeing at holistic
10:27um comprehensive Mass trans trans it
10:29policy which is in place now already 28
10:32EV buses for the first time in Punjab in
10:34lore they've arrived in lore and the
10:36plan is to have more than 1500 buses
10:39across Punjab electric vehicle so um the
10:42province is going through a
10:43transitionary policy from converting our
10:46mass transit from uh traditional petrol
10:49based diesel based to more environmental
10:52friendly hybrid and uh electric vehicles
10:55uh there's also a plan under clean air
10:58Punjab
10:59uh project funded by World Bank to
11:02replace uh two wheelers and three
11:04wheelers um to um ebikes uh the project
11:08has already started with the students
11:10around 10,000 electric bikes have been
11:12given to University and college students
11:14under the same program uh then of course
11:17uh you know Punjab has been declared as
11:20uh zero plastic no plastic use the
11:24single Ed plastic is banned in Punjab at
11:27the moment and massive uh
11:30uh surveillance is and regulation is
11:33underway when it comes to anti- single
11:35use plastic campaign citizens in
11:38manufacturers they all are for the first
11:40time being listed under the no plastic
11:42bag campaign and the project that we
11:44have the Environmental Protection Agency
11:46is a very
11:47traditional uh challenge organization
11:50where they used to rent motorbikes uh
11:53for their surveillance for the first
11:54time uh they've been equipped with State
11:57state-of-the-art technology for their
11:59uh surveillance including monitors
12:02mobile Vans um uh also the air quality
12:06uh monitors mobile monitors drones have
12:10also been given body cams have been also
12:12given to uh the Environmental Protection
12:15a agency and also the institutional
12:17reform while Punjab battles Smog and air
12:20pollution K pak's vast Forest are a
12:23vital defense against carbon emissions
12:25but preserving these green lungs of
12:27Pakistan demands substant cial resources
12:30K
12:31Forest Area is 37% of the land we have
12:36in whole K and it makes around 40 to 45%
12:41of the forest C of
12:44Pakistan and
12:46as a carbon
12:49sink we are removing 50% carbon of
12:54Pakistan according to the undp and the
12:58World Bank research
12:59for this much Forest Area you need at
13:03least
13:04332 billion rupees per
13:07year so I'm not able to invest this much
13:10money but at least my Province and my
13:13people are doing a job of this big
13:16amount which is 332 billion and we are
13:19working for our country and we are
13:22paying our role our part for our people
13:27which are 25 CR in Pakistan leader Imran
13:31Khan has championed the climate change
13:35nationally and internationally and since
13:382017 in pakun till now he have spent
13:42more than 675 billion Rupees to improve
13:47and increase our forest
13:50area the international standard is
13:5325% but alhamdulillah pakun is right now
13:5726% it means that we have achieved the
14:00international standards and we are above
14:03it and if we say commercially the land
14:07which is being used for this purpose if
14:09commercially it is utilized in minerals
14:12in
14:13agriculture
14:14hospitality and urbanization so we can
14:18earn more than 217 billion per year so
14:21basically we are sacrificing 2117
14:24billion per year for this being the
14:28carbon sink
14:29for Pakistan and we are proud of it
14:32Beyond Pakistan Regional cooperation
14:34emerged as a key theme at the breed
14:36Pakistan conference experts stress that
14:39the climate crisis is not limited to one
14:41country it required a United South Asian
14:44response in the high Himalaya from the
14:46karakuram hindukush all the way to ncha
14:48barua in the easternmost tip of the
14:51Himalaya you have permafrost melting
14:56permafrost melting is the melting of
14:58Perma FR us is not yet a discussion even
15:01among academics but the
15:05Frozen uh brick sorry Frozen Stones
15:09Boulders dust detritus is loosening up
15:14loosening up and when you have extreme
15:16climate events and rainfall you have
15:19what happened in sikim last year what
15:22happened in the meleni river of Nepal uh
15:252 years 3 years ago incredible crisis
15:29for which we already have the indicators
15:31in front of us I would say the best way
15:34to deal with water is to stop it at the
15:37height that it is height is a great
15:41resource more than oil I would say
15:44mountains are what gives height to water
15:49whether in Frozen palms or in permafrost
15:52or in flowing water now stop it where it
15:56is should be our strategy and dropping
15:59it there and then making it useful
16:02Downstream can be done in two ways one
16:05would be freeze and refreeze freeze it
16:09when it flows in cold mountains so that
16:12it can be used in spring and summer when
16:15Farmers need it and one way we are
16:18seeing at in ladak at hayal the
16:21Himalayan Institute is to get people
16:24from all of these places to for courses
16:27modules that uh they can participate
16:30learn the techniques and go back to
16:33their places and become Partners in
16:35implementing in their own context that
16:38way because Technologies are not easy
16:42for every village community to invent so
16:45there could be Regional Laboratories we
16:48hope Himalayan Institute of ladak can
16:50become Himalayan Institute of Nepal
16:53Pakistan Afghanistan know and various
16:56countries where you prepare The Young
17:00and the old for understanding their
17:03climate their context and coming up with
17:06solution to support implementation of
17:09such techniques whether it is check dams
17:11or ice dams or ice scoopers or Glo
17:16refreezing will need resources and
17:19international support plays a crucial
17:21role in Pakistan's climate response as
17:24one of the countries most affected by
17:26climate change Pakistan receives vital
17:28assistance distance from organizations
17:30like the United Nations uh so Pakistan
17:33is doing a lot of things in terms of
17:35advocacy uh it has uh plans and Visions
17:38such as the living indust initiative to
17:41sustain the ecosystem of the indust but
17:43the major challenge that Pakistan faces
17:45is climate financing uh many of the
17:48countries that have uh promised in the
17:50several cops uh to fund uh countries
17:54that are impacted by climate change uh
17:56adopt but also mitigate and create
17:58defenses against the impacts of climate
18:01change have not uh in many ways met
18:05their commitments the UN stands firmly
18:07behind Pakistan's call for climate
18:09Justice urging the world's wealthiest
18:11Nations to fulfill their financial
18:13commitments no uh Pakistan is in the top
18:16top 10 countries uh countries that are
18:19severely impacted by climate change uh
18:22we know the floods I don't have to tell
18:24you uh you also have
18:26drought uh severe droughts in parts of
18:29the country uh you also experience uh
18:31glacial
18:32outbursts um so Pakistan's uh
18:35development and his ability to meet the
18:37sustainable development goals are much
18:40uh threatened by the uh impact of
18:42climate change so for us in the UN we
18:45see climate change here in the context
18:47of Pakistan as an inhibitor for
18:49development while the Pakistani
18:51government spearheads climate policies
18:53the United Nations also plays a crucial
18:55role in raising awareness and
18:57encouraging global resp responsibility
19:00so we are the United Nations are behind
19:02Pakistan and supporting Pakistan uh uh
19:05in in its moral right to
19:08request um uh those who have polluted
19:11and have caused uh this kind of
19:14unpredictable climate uh extremes uh to
19:18support countries like Pakistan we also
19:20help Pakistan in responding to the
19:23impacts of climate change such as the
19:242022 floods uh the UN was at the
19:27Forefront in helping Pakistan respond
19:30through humanitarian response and up to
19:33today uh supporting communities that
19:36have impacted and lost everything they
19:38had uh to reconstruct their lives um uh
19:43but this is the most challenging uh
19:45thing that Pakistan faces in its ability
19:47to meet its own Vision uh to have a
19:50peaceful and prosperous
19:52country of climate change is not a one
19:55nation it doesn't it doesn't sit it yeah
19:57it doesn't sit uh on a border and say
19:59you know smoke will only impact Pakistan
20:03and not India or or Afghanistan this is
20:05a global challenge the crossb challenge
20:08um so you need the International
20:09Community together the UN facilities the
20:11cop the annual cop meeting but also the
20:15un uh uh uh through our Secretary
20:17General represent the moral voice of
20:20those who have been impacted and you've
20:22seen our Secretary General come here uh
20:25in 2022 uh to stand absolutely to stand
20:28with the people of Pakistan and ask the
20:30world especially the rich countries who
20:32have significantly contributed to global
20:35warming to do more in helping countries
20:38like Pakistan uh I'm his representative
20:40a representative Secretary General here
20:41in Pakistan and my job is to stand
20:44behind the people and the government of
20:46Pakistan as it fights uh uh the
20:49devastating impact of climate change but
20:52also help Pakistan itself uh develop a
20:55green future for itself to make sure
20:57that uh Pakistan does not join as it
21:00develops uh uh those those Nations who
21:03have uh contributed to uh global warming
21:07so we bring everybody who can help uh
21:10those who can provide technical support
21:13uh we we facilitate uh uh those who want
21:16to provide financial support those who
21:18want to provide concessional loans so
21:21anything that is available uh uh uh both
21:24financing technical support but also the
21:27moral platforms uh such as cop and
21:30others to remind people uh at the End of
21:33This Global discussions are human beings
21:37that have been displaced uh that have
21:39lost their lives uh that are constantly
21:41being threatened uh through flooding and
21:44other forms of climate uh one thing I
21:48really like about the Pakistan's
21:49approach and the approach of Partners
21:52such as da is the self-help the
21:54recognition that you have to deal with
21:57this problem uh inter National Community
21:59has a important role especially
22:01financing but communities across borders
22:04in the in the south Asia region have to
22:07come together and find a solution uh to
22:09this issue uh of of climate change and
22:11this is why we are the UN excited to
22:14play a an important role uh be a partner
22:17with Don uh to make sure that uh uh
22:20climate action uh in this region uh is
22:23is it's it's everybody's business and uh
22:25both the private sector the government
22:27and Civil Society
22:29corporate responsibility is no longer
22:31optional the private sector is realizing
22:33its role in addressing the climate
22:35crisis with organizations like the
22:37Pakistan Business Council Leading The
22:39Way businesses are are very acutely
22:42aware uh that it's it's not just climate
22:45change it's not just environment but the
22:47broader estg framework is something that
22:49they need to comply with uh if you're a
22:51multinational company you have to behave
22:54equally responsibly in Pakistan as you
22:55do abroad if you're a large Local
22:57Company you are also raising Capital uh
23:01either from the stock exchange or or
23:03from Banks and State Bank of
23:08Pakistan environmental
23:11responsibility
23:12framework Banks adopt so when the banks
23:15are lending money they evaluate every
23:18year uh the the the state of their
23:21exposure uh in terms of environment and
23:24in terms of the broader framework uh of
23:26ESG uh in terms of you know their
23:30whether their clients their borrowers
23:32are according by that uh standard uh and
23:35if they are not uh then they given a
23:37certain time period to to to start
23:39according and if obviously there are
23:41some that will never be able to do so so
23:43the banks are actually exiting uh
23:45relationships there so this is uh one
23:48one of the ways that uh private sector
23:50is becoming uh you know more responsible
23:53towards the environment local businesses
23:55are also Under Pressure to comply with
23:57environmental regulations ations but
23:59many have turned these challenges into
24:01opportunities businesses uh impact
24:04climate change in many ways U the the
24:07easiest one to look at is what they do
24:09within their own organization in terms
24:11of
24:13factoru
24:19discharge that businesses that's the
24:22easy part really relatively speaking
24:24because you know it's a it's a question
24:26of invest investing in the right
24:27equipment but also adopting the right
24:30practices starting to measure because
24:32you can only manage what you measure so
24:34these are things that the businesses
24:35have started some years ago at least the
24:37larger the more responsible businesses
24:39now the next of course uh uh challenge
24:42if you like uh objective is to get them
24:44to do the same with their value chain
24:47Partners you know the customers and the
24:48suppliers foreign investors are equally
24:50committed to sustainability through
24:52organizations like the overseas
24:54investors Chambers of Commerce and
24:55Industry multinational companies are
24:58setting the standard for environmental
25:13practices very high standards
25:30interal
25:39standards oci's members are not only
25:42cutting emissions but also leading
25:44efforts in recycling and sustainable
25:46packaging for
25:49example 97%
26:24gas recy
26:50GCI commitments to sustainability is
26:52helping set a global standard for
26:54environmental responsibility in Pakistan
27:14impr subject discuss as the climate
27:17crisis deepens businesses are focusing
27:19on not just sustainability but Disaster
27:22Response and Recovery Bank alala a key
27:25player in corporate responsibility has
27:27set an example with its proactive
27:29approach to flood relief and green
27:31financing Bank Gula actually took the
27:35the last disaster that hit Pakistan the
27:37big floods in 2022 very
27:40seriously um and we had a strong look
27:44inwards to see what is our
27:46responsibility in such a
27:49circumstance and therefore Bank alala
27:51became the largest corporate donor uh
27:55for the flood relief program the
27:57immediate relief effort that was
27:58required to get people to at least be
28:01able to save their lives uh and uh the
28:05bigger part was the long-term
28:08Rehabilitation uh which included uh
28:10rebuilding of houses um uh Recreation of
28:15livelihoods and then for long-term
28:18sustainable future also invest in uh
28:21education in health uh and building U
28:25you know sustainable livelihoods for
28:27people longterm
28:28Beyond immediate relief the bank has
28:30made significant investments in green
28:32projects to ensure that Pakistan is
28:35prepared for future climate
28:37challenges so we have a whole program
28:39for green financing uh and we've been
28:42working with um uh institutions like
28:46karandas uh We've also had uh
28:49consultancy support from
28:51IFC um and uh we have developed a
28:55program that supports uh existing
28:58customers to convert uh their businesses
29:01to to more sustainable uh
29:04methodologies for instance the in the
29:06production of power uh We've helped a
29:09number of customers move away from the
29:12traditional fossil fuel um generation of
29:16electricity and power to renewable
29:19sources uh and that includes now that we
29:22have we've invested in um Bas based
29:27power projects uh also uh hydle projects
29:31solar projects and wind wind power so
29:34these are renew renewable energy
29:36projects that we very um focused on
29:39supporting and we have done a number of
29:41them uh over the last few years and we
29:43will continue to do do so in the
29:46future um also we're looking at um you
29:51know where this this direction and this
29:54U uh technology is taking us in the
29:57future future and are studying that uh
30:01further to be able to support in the
30:02future so um just in the year 2024 uh we
30:08were able to support uh projects worth
30:1126 billion through our financing uh
30:14that's a significant number to be to
30:17have been done in one year and inshallah
30:19we're looking to increase that in the
30:21future the bank uh obviously has a
30:23number of different U premises across
30:26Pakistan and uh we now realize that a
30:29lot of them need to be converted more
30:32towards uh green
30:34buildings uh and we've uh undertaken an
30:38exercise with the IFC to see what are
30:40those steps that we need to take not
30:43only as far as real estate is concerned
30:45but are other operating practices that
30:48need to uh be more responsible from a an
30:52environment protection perspective as
30:55we've seen the climate crisis is a
30:57global issue
30:58with deeply local consequences Pakistan
31:01stands at the Forefront facing some of
31:03the harshest impacts yet the nation
31:06remains resilient from government
31:08policies to corporate responsibility and
31:10international Partnerships the country
31:12is stepping up to meet the challenge but
31:15this fight requires more than just local
31:17efforts Global action is needed to
31:19ensure that promises are kept and that
31:21the most vulnerable are supported the
31:24road ahead may be tough but with
31:26cooperation innovation and commitment
31:29there is hope in the face of adversity
31:32Pakistan's Journey towards climate
31:33resilience is not just a national effort
31:37it is a call to the world to act to join
31:40in the fight for a sustainable future
31:42this is just the beginning from
31:45government policies and international
31:47collaboration to corporate Investments
31:49and green financing Pakistan is
31:51mobilizing all sectors to address the
31:53climate crisis but this fight is far
31:57from over as we move forward how can the
32:00corporate sector continue to innovate
32:02and lead the way to a sustainable
32:07future breathe Pakistan a dawn media
32:10initiative let's weather the change
32:13together

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