BREAKING: New Poll Shows Support for Same-Sex Marriage DROPS — Transcript

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1. 0:00You know, the teacher, she said, you
2. 0:01know, and by the way, just so everybody
3. 0:03knows, marriage is between one man and
4. 0:05one woman. Kind of like looks around the
5. 0:06room. Everybody got that? Good. Moving
6. 0:09on. This ties in to a major news story
7. 0:12that a lot of people said was not
8. 0:13possible.
9. 0:15Which is
10. 0:17according to an economist YouGov poll,
11. 0:19so it's not necessarily a right-wing
12. 0:21poll,
13. 0:22support for same-sex marriage,
14. 0:25so-called, has fallen to 54%. And this
15. 0:28is one of these issues, you know, I grew
16. 0:30up. I'm old enough to remember when
17. 0:31marriage was between a man and a woman.
18. 0:33And some of our audience actually is
19. 0:35probably so young they don't remember
20. 0:36that. Then you get 2015, Obergefell, the
21. 0:39Supreme Court redefines marriage. That
22. 0:41push had been building for some time,
23. 0:42really since Will & Grace in the late
24. 0:43'90s. And then it just it it stopped
25. 0:47being a political issue. And there were
26. 0:49a handful of us who said, "Yo, guys, you
27. 0:50can't give up on marriage. It's the
28. 0:52fundamental political institution." But
29. 0:54all the Republicans, virtually all of
30. 0:56the prominent conservatives, they said,
31. 0:58"No, guys, we lost marriage. Move on.
32. 1:01Obergefell will never be overturned.
33. 1:03This is just how it is now." And I
34. 1:05thought like there's no way, right? This
35. 1:06is the basic political unit. There's The
36. 1:08guys of the copybook headings are going
37. 1:09to come back. Is this a sign
38. 1:12that we will see the overturning of
39. 1:14Obergefell and the re-reinstatement of
40. 1:18proper true marriage?
41. 1:20Jack, is Obergefell getting overruled?
42. 1:23I think I think if you look at the
43. 1:24traction, right? If you look at the
44. 1:25traction where it's going on this, and
45. 1:27and Obergefell, and people could say
46. 1:29what they want. And I think it's
47. 1:30actually a separate issue from same-sex
48. 1:32marriage, even though it it's sort of
49. 1:33like in in a in in political psychology
50. 1:35isn't because we know that the justices
51. 1:37take up cases based on public opinion.
52. 1:39We certainly know that Roberts has done
53. 1:40this. It's been sort of a hallmark of
54. 1:42his time on the court. That look, it was
55. 1:45not properly judged in the same way that
56. 1:48Roe v. Wade was not properly judged.
57. 1:50This is just not something that's
58. 1:51covered in the Constitution. It's not
59. 1:52there. It's not the Bill of Rights. It's
60. 1:54certainly not in any of the amendments.
61. 1:56Marriage was always a state institution.
62. 1:58It is covered by the 10th Amendment
63. 2:00because no powers that are given to the
64. 2:01federal government are all of those are
65. 2:03left with the states. And so, it's
66. 2:05always been that way and they can't just
67. 2:07write things into the Constitution. No
68. 2:09one ever tried to put this up. No one
69. 2:10ever tried to make this an amendment.
70. 2:12They just sort of pushed it through the
71. 2:13courts, which we've seen the left doing
72. 2:14since the 1960s. If they can't win at
73. 2:16the ballot box, they go to the
74. 2:18And so, it is something where when you
75. 2:20realize that look there and you
76. 2:22mentioned there weren't a lot of
77. 2:23Republicans and conservatives that spoke
78. 2:24out, but the very first Republican that
79. 2:27I ever worked for many moons ago, uh
80. 2:29first as an intern then as a a campaign
81. 2:31staffer, was Rick Santorum. Yeah.
82. 2:33>> And Rick Santorum, my senator in
83. 2:34Pennsylvania, he took a lot of flak, and
84. 2:37people can go back and look at his
85. 2:38comments, which were colorful, to say
86. 2:40the least, about this. And he said, "If
87. 2:42you put this into practice, right? If
88. 2:44you put it into law and try it anywhere,
89. 2:46that what it will do will open up a
90. 2:48Pandora's box of trouble, where if you
91. 2:52say that anything can be marriage, then
92. 2:54all of a sudden you will completely
93. 2:56distort society, and it won't just be
94. 2:59men and men and women and women, but
95. 3:00we'll have all sorts of relationships
96. 3:02being enshrined in govern- being
97. 3:03enshrined by government in law. And
98. 3:05guess what? That's exactly what we're
99. 3:07seeing. Certainly with the rise of
100. 3:09surrogacy, certainly with the rise of
101. 3:10new technologies, we're now seeing like
102. 3:12polyamorous marriages and children being
103. 3:15raised by three fathers and three women
104. 3:17and all sorts of just complete and utter
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144. 4:40of a lot of flak for that. If every-
145. 4:41anyone remembers the comments I'm
146. 4:42referring to from like '05, '06, you'll
147. 4:44know what I'm saying. That it's it's
148. 4:47something where he was completely right
149. 4:48because they didn't stop there. That's
150. 4:50what led to the push for the trans
151. 4:51movement. That's what led to like drag
152. 4:53queen story hour and all the rest of it.
153. 4:55Because the minute that they got that,
154. 4:56the entire machinery, the political
155. 4:58machinery that they had built or
156. 4:59starting with By the way, you're totally
157. 5:01right on Will & Grace. That was like the
158. 5:02first, and then Modern Family became the
159. 5:04second. This is the mass media. This is
160. 5:06the, you know, the mass normalization of
161. 5:08this type of stuff.
162. 5:09And and it was pushed on society in a
163. 5:12way that nobody ever really sat down and
164. 5:15had a debate about. We just sort of were
165. 5:16told that we have to accept this. And
166. 5:19and they've completely gone over the
167. 5:21rails with it, and a lot of people are
168. 5:22pointing back to 2013, really a lot of
169. 5:24these bad decisions, bad policies that
170. 5:26came out of the Obama era, that it's
171. 5:27time to take a look at it again. And and
172. 5:29I will, by the way, just add as an
173. 5:31anecdote to my my son, my older son, um
174. 5:34he had his first uh reconciliation class
175. 5:36a couple of nights ago. And in and it
176. 5:39since it was the first class, we were
177. 5:40sort of talking about all of the
178. 5:41sacraments. And when they brought up
179. 5:43matrimony, the uh you know, the teacher,
180. 5:46she said, you know, and by the way, just
181. 5:48so everybody knows, marriage is between
182. 5:49one man and one woman. Kind of like
183. 5:51looks around the room. Everybody got
184. 5:53that? Good. Moving on. Well, even in you
185. 5:56know, it's so funny. It only occurred to
186. 5:57me recently. The word matrimony
187. 6:01comes from the word mater, you know,
188. 6:03like mother in Latin. And so, the notion
189. 6:05that you could have matrimony between
190. 6:07two men is is undercut by the very word
191. 6:10itself. Yes, Rick Santorum is one of the
192. 6:14most vindicated man in America. Every
193. 6:17day that goes by, he is more and more
194. 6:19vindicated.
195. 6:20Uh
196. 6:21I and you make a good point on
197. 6:23Obergefell being different from same-sex
198. 6:26marriage, quote unquote. You know, I do
199. 6:28wonder though on the state versus
200. 6:30federal issue. I remember I was a
201. 6:33student and I got to talk to Scalia once
202. 6:35or twice. And we one of one of the
203. 6:37times, one of the students asked him
204. 6:39about marriage and whether it was a
205. 6:41state's issue or federal issue. And he
206. 6:42said, "Well, you know, the problem is
207. 6:44it's very hard for it to be a state's
208. 6:46issue because you can't have a country
209. 6:49where someone is married in
210. 6:50Massachusetts but not married in
211. 6:51Oklahoma. What happens when they move?
212. 6:53What happens when they travel? So, it it
213. 6:55creates problems."
214. 6:56>> what they did with the Massachusetts
215. 6:58because I think it was Massachusetts was
216. 6:59the first state, and this is exactly
217. 7:01what they were trying to do with that
218. 7:02under the under the contract clause of
219. 7:04the Constitution. It's same same idea as
220. 7:06having a driver's license in one state.
221. 7:07You can you know, you shouldn't have to
222. 7:08get a driver's license in every state.
223. 7:10Yeah, so then my question is, regardless
224. 7:12of what the Well,
225. 7:15hm, I actually have two questions.
226. 7:17We were told that this issue, like
227. 7:19abortion and Roe v. Wade, was was just
228. 7:21done. It was set in law. It was never
229. 7:22going to be overturned in our lifetimes.
230. 7:24Two questions. Will we
231. 7:26see the overruling of of Obergefell in
232. 7:28our lifetime?
233. 7:29And on on any kind of grounds, on, you
234. 7:32know, textualist grounds, originalist
235. 7:34grounds, or substantive grounds. And
236. 7:36two, will the culture will we see the
237. 7:39majority of people turn against gay
238. 7:42marriage, so-called, in our lifetimes?
239. 7:45I think we will. I think and I caught
240. 7:47what you were saying about Gen Z. I
241. 7:48caught what you were saying about the
242. 7:49polling on this. I think a lot of people
243. 7:51realize, you know, especially Gen Z,
244. 7:53when they look
245. 8:14at, you know, sort of the the laws that
246. 8:17came out of the '60s, that was sort of
247. 8:18seen as the Boomer era, then the laws
248. 8:20that came out of the '90s, the Clinton
249. 8:22the Gen X era, and then the laws that
250. 8:23came out of Obama and the policy
251. 8:25changes, this was the millennial era of
252. 8:27politics where they had primacy. And the
253. 8:30idea being that everything has gone a
254. 8:32little bit too far in one direction, and
255. 8:33we need to look at things that we want
256. 8:35to reel back. And you look at some of
257. 8:37those big changes, there's no way that
258. 8:39you can say Obergefell wasn't a major
259. 8:41change to the way things have been done.
260. 8:43By the way, not just in the United
261. 8:45States of America, throughout all of
262. 8:47human history. The nuclear family is the
263. 8:50oldest institution on planet Earth. It
264. 8:53predates
265. 8:54everything. It predates the Bible. It
266. 8:56predates history itself. We go into the
267. 8:58caves of the cavemen, and what do we
268. 9:00find? We find mom, dad, kids. It's all
269. 9:03there. Yeah, I I I agree. I I just think
270. 9:06these people who thought that they were
271. 9:08going to bet on their own ideology over
272. 9:10human nature and the fact that we're
273. 9:12social creatures and coupling creatures
274. 9:13and biological creatures, I that was
275. 9:16that was really a bad bet. That was a
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