BREAD-IGC virtual PhD-level course 2026 | Lecture 5 Politicians and Political Agency — Transcript
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- 0:04Welcome everyone. Uh we're back with
- 0:06another lecture in the series of bread
- 0:10IGC course on political economy for
- 0:132026. This is the fifth lecture in the
- 0:16series and as you can see we have um
- 0:19Fred and Claudio back with us who are
- 0:23conveners of the course and and shared
- 0:25um a lot of what we heard in our kind of
- 0:28initial introductory lecture but this
- 0:31lecture specifically will be on
- 0:33politicians and political agency. So um
- 0:36just maybe a little bit of background uh
- 0:39professor Fenan is a professor of
- 0:42economics and business business
- 0:43administration at UC Berkeley and
- 0:46Professor Ferras teaches economics at
- 0:49University of British Columbia and uh PU
- 0:53Rio. We're really excited to have both
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- 1:51I think that's everything. So, uh, thank
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- 1:58And I'll pass over to Fred.
- 2:01>> Great. Thank you, Caleb. Hi, everyone.
- 2:03Um, welcome. I hope you're enjoying the
- 2:07course so far. Let me go ahead and share
- 2:10my screen here.
- 2:13Um, yeah. So, uh, we're going with, you
- 2:17know, so Claudia and I are going to be
- 2:18talking about politicians, political
- 2:20agency, and political accountability.
- 2:24Um so by
- 2:27uh hopefully you can see my screen. Um
- 2:31so by by way of motivation what I would
- 2:34like to show you is this graph here.
- 2:37Um so what we see is that during the
- 2:40past 50 years much of the developing
- 2:42world has transition to democracy.
- 2:46And even though we've had some recent
- 2:48backsliding, um over half the world's
- 2:52nations are classified as either liberal
- 2:54or electoral democracies, uh which are
- 2:57characterized by sort of these
- 2:59reasonably free and fair elections and
- 3:02high levels of participation and you
- 3:04know competitive political party systems
- 3:06and so forth.
- 3:08And yet despite these democratic
- 3:11advances, what we see from the falling
- 3:15uh figures
- 3:17is that many democratic nations,
- 3:21particularly those that are less
- 3:23developed, the ones that I have kind of
- 3:25circled here,
- 3:27um
- 3:29struggle to deliver, you know, equitable
- 3:32access to resources or opportunities or
- 3:34basic, you know, basic essential public
- 3:36goods and services. And we can we can
- 3:38see that clearly when we in the upper
- 3:40graph where we plot the human
- 3:42development index and so forth. And we
- 3:45also see that in the um we also see that
- 3:49these lower income countries
- 3:52um are also characterized by having much
- 3:54more political corruption or
- 3:56clientalism. And even if we condition on
- 4:00you know GDP per capita we see a lot of
- 4:03variation in in these in in um in these
- 4:08what we would call political pathologies
- 4:10and so forth. Okay. Um so you know one
- 4:15question that we're trying to understand
- 4:17is is why do these democracies sort of
- 4:20malfunction?
- 4:22uh especially when you know one of the
- 4:24promise of of democracies is to be able
- 4:27to offer you know public goods and and
- 4:31uh and and and well-being. And what
- 4:34we're going to argue during the course
- 4:36of this lecture and we're going to also
- 4:38give you you know the tool you know the
- 4:40reasons for why we make this argument is
- 4:43you know is that democracies malfunction
- 4:46because of what we would call weak
- 4:47accountability uh mechanisms that fail
- 4:51to constrain the government's abuse of
- 4:53political power. And our argument is
- 4:56going to center around three sort of
- 4:59distinct yet related channels of
- 5:00accountability which have to do with uh
- 5:03what we would call vertical
- 5:04accountability
- 5:06um horizontal accountability and
- 5:09diagonal accountability. So the the
- 5:12notion of of vertical accountability
- 5:15um is the ability to to punish sort of
- 5:19uh hold politicians accountable uh at at
- 5:23the polls. uh whereas horizontal
- 5:26accountability has to do with the
- 5:28accountability that we often that we see
- 5:30with for instance the judiciary system
- 5:33or the legal system and then uh the and
- 5:37then um uh diagonal accountability has
- 5:40to do with you know civil society and uh
- 5:44media and those types of organization
- 5:46and their ability to hold government or
- 5:49politicians to account. And so those are
- 5:51the three different uh dimensions of of
- 5:54accountability. And the way we're going
- 5:56to introduce these different is it uh
- 5:59these different notions of
- 6:00accountability is in the context of a
- 6:03political agency framework. And so I
- 6:05know that that Patrick Francois went
- 6:08over a class of models uh a couple
- 6:11lectures ago. Um and political agency
- 6:14models which uh were featured which you
- 6:17know he introduced through I think
- 6:19through uh the Farahan model or or at
- 6:21least mentioned it um is is a is one of
- 6:25the core classes of models that we see
- 6:28uh in political economy these days. And
- 6:31the notion of a political agency model
- 6:34is that you have two kind of you have
- 6:37two actors. You have uh what we'd call
- 6:39the we'd have the politician which we
- 6:41which would play the role as the of the
- 6:43agent and then we have the voter who
- 6:46would play the the role of the of the
- 6:49principal. And uh and the reason why
- 6:52this this this model is interesting is
- 6:55that there's an incentive problem
- 6:57between these two actors. uh the
- 7:00politician has preferences that uh
- 7:04differ from that of the voters. For
- 7:06instance, maybe the politician wants to
- 7:09steal money from office whereas the
- 7:11voters wants the politicians to provide
- 7:14public goods instead instead. And so at
- 7:17the core of this model is this incentive
- 7:19problem that exists between politicians
- 7:21and voters.
- 7:23On top of that, politicians enjoy
- 7:26anformational advantage. Okay. And this
- 7:29be and this may be you know uh due to
- 7:32what we would call moral hazard or or
- 7:35monitoring in the sense that uh voters
- 7:38don't observe the actions of the
- 7:40politicians and as a result uh
- 7:43politicians will take advantage of this
- 7:46uh of this uh lack of information to act
- 7:49opportunistically.
- 7:51Um or another informationational
- 7:53advantage um that's you know not
- 7:55necessarily mutually exclusive either is
- 7:58one that we would call adverse election
- 8:00or or selection um which is that uh
- 8:04voters don't necessarily observe the the
- 8:07politician's type. And what do we mean
- 8:09by type? Well, that could be their level
- 8:12of honesty for instance or it could be
- 8:14their level of competence. Um and so you
- 8:18know and typically what voters want or
- 8:20what they need to do is they need to
- 8:22select the most competent policy maker
- 8:24or those whose motivations are most
- 8:27likely in tune with with what they want
- 8:29or what the public interest is. And the
- 8:32inability to observe this type of person
- 8:36also complicates the matters for voters
- 8:38in in in their choice to reelect an
- 8:42incumbent or not. And so how does how do
- 8:46voters solve this this uh these agency
- 8:50problems? Well, the the core mechanism
- 8:53in which they do that is through
- 8:55elections. Okay. And this is very
- 8:58different from a from a a class of of
- 9:03principal agent models that you see in
- 9:05economics more generally. Okay. So
- 9:07there's you know there's a long history
- 9:08of principal agent mo models typically
- 9:11when when thinking about you know firms
- 9:13managers and employees and this you know
- 9:16we've you know political economy took th
- 9:19those models and adapt them to uh to
- 9:22politics and the key difference between
- 9:25the standard principal agents models
- 9:27that principles here in in the context
- 9:30of of political agency have only a very
- 9:33crude incentive structure which is
- 9:35reelection. Whereas in the standard
- 9:38principal agent models, they can you
- 9:39know they'll have different contracts at
- 9:41their disposals. They can incentivize
- 9:43workers in different ways. Whereas here
- 9:46uh reelection is the only sort of
- 9:48incentive structure that voters can can
- 9:51impose on on on
- 9:54um on politicians uh with a few
- 9:57exceptions that I'm going to get into.
- 9:59And so the role of these elections is to
- 10:02achieve accountability. And as we
- 10:05mentioned in you know even in the very
- 10:07first lecture we hinted at this there
- 10:09are two different forms of
- 10:10accountability there's what we would
- 10:12call djury accountabilities which these
- 10:14are the formal rules that affect
- 10:17accountability a classic example would
- 10:19be like term limits so term limit you
- 10:21know if if you're in your final term
- 10:24term then you can't be reelected right
- 10:27and this is important because a lot of
- 10:30studies as Claudio is going to show have
- 10:32used sort of these djour jury forms of
- 10:35accountability, these formal rules, uh,
- 10:38in order to help identify the behavior
- 10:40of politicians and so forth. Uh, but
- 10:43there's also something else that we
- 10:44would call de facto account, de facto
- 10:46accountability. And the and these are,
- 10:48you know, what we would call real
- 10:50accountability in the sense that there
- 10:52are instances in which politicians can
- 10:55still displease voters. You know, they
- 10:58can still be corrupt. they can still
- 11:00engage in clientalism and all that stuff
- 11:03without the threat of of of real
- 11:06sanction. And this could and you know
- 11:08this could be because they do a lot of
- 11:09other stuff as well. And so that's what
- 11:12we would call de facto accountability.
- 11:15And so uh the key feature of any
- 11:17political agency model is is the
- 11:20importance of reelection incentives
- 11:24in shaping the behavior of uh incumbent
- 11:27politician. And as a result, as you can
- 11:29tell, this is going to require kind of a
- 11:31dynamic structure, right? There's going
- 11:33to be multiple periods uh in in these
- 11:36classes of models. Um before so before I
- 11:39introduce the model, I want to also
- 11:42describe a couple other sort of key
- 11:44modeling issues. And you know this is
- 11:47these are very important because
- 11:48depending on what you assume in terms of
- 11:50your in terms of these issues it may
- 11:53affect sort of our empirical strategy
- 11:56once we try and test these these models
- 11:58more formally. Um and so the first
- 12:01question is what is the the nature of
- 12:04uncertainty? Okay, what is the source?
- 12:05Is it that you can't perfectly observe
- 12:09the politician's act actions? Or maybe
- 12:12it's because you can't observe the
- 12:15politician's competency levels or
- 12:17motives.
- 12:18Or maybe there's even voter uncertainty
- 12:21about what the best policy or the exact
- 12:23policy that was implemented. So maybe
- 12:25voters don't even observe the policy
- 12:27that was implemented or, you know, or or
- 12:30the or their or their benefits from this
- 12:33policy because it takes too long. and
- 12:35and what you're going to see in the
- 12:36model that we're going to present is
- 12:38that there's going to be this
- 12:39uncertainty along all three of these
- 12:41dimensions.
- 12:42Um the other key issue is is what do
- 12:46politicians know that voters don't know?
- 12:48Because that provides what we would call
- 12:50a multitasking
- 12:52uh issues where you know maybe you know
- 12:56why do we why do you wonder why
- 12:58politicians always like to to um to
- 13:02build bridges? Well, it's because it's
- 13:04very observable. It's something that
- 13:06voters observe. What what when you know
- 13:09at the same time politicians are also in
- 13:11charge of, you know, making sure the
- 13:13water is clean, which is something
- 13:14that's less observable. So maybe you
- 13:17know because voters don't observe they
- 13:20observe the bridges more than the than
- 13:22you know the quality of the water
- 13:24politicians are going to divert their
- 13:26effort towards uh uh building bridges as
- 13:30opposed to making sure that the the
- 13:32water quality is is clean. And then the
- 13:35other component of the the other
- 13:37modeling issue that that is worth
- 13:39emphasizing is the fact that you know at
- 13:41the end of the day voters are going to
- 13:43vote you know during an election and
- 13:45they're going to vote retrospectively
- 13:47right so they're going to observe what
- 13:50what are what do you know either the
- 13:52actions or the utility of of what
- 13:54they've received um prior to making
- 13:57casting their vote. So they're not
- 13:59necessar necessarily forecasting out you
- 14:02know what they expect how they expect to
- 14:04be in the future and so forth. Okay.
- 14:09Okay. So, let me present uh this
- 14:11political agency model that's due to uh
- 14:15that's a a modification of of of what
- 14:17Bezley wrote in his book. And I know
- 14:19that that Tim uh gave a wonderful
- 14:22lecture last week, I believe. Um or
- 14:25yeah, I believe so. And um and so this
- 14:28is this is largely attributed to to to
- 14:31the wonderful work that he's done. And
- 14:33so, as I said, we're going to have two
- 14:36agent two actors in this model. There's
- 14:39going to be the the politician and then
- 14:41the voters. Um, as I mentioned before,
- 14:44these models are dynamic. So, we're
- 14:45going to need two periods.
- 14:48And then in each period, the politician
- 14:50is going to take one action. And, you
- 14:53know, we're going to denote that by EFT.
- 14:55And it's going to be an action that's
- 14:57either going to be a zero or a one. So,
- 14:58the pol so the politician is just going
- 15:00to choose zero one. We can think of this
- 15:02as like the politicians either going to
- 15:04provide good or you know work to provide
- 15:07goods or not. Um and then uh the payoffs
- 15:12of the voters and the politicians are
- 15:15going to depend on the state of the
- 15:17world. Okay. And then the state of the
- 15:19world is also only going to take on you
- 15:22know two values either a zero or a one.
- 15:26And and that's relevant for the
- 15:27following reason. uh first the
- 15:30politician only observes ST um before
- 15:35they need to act and so you know right
- 15:38away we're we're introducing some uh
- 15:41some uh asymmetry and information here.
- 15:44So only the politician is going to
- 15:45observe the state of the world and then
- 15:48the payoff of the voter is going to
- 15:50deter be determined on whether or not
- 15:54the politician sets his action equal to
- 15:57the state of the world.
- 15:59So if the if the politician sets the
- 16:02action so either 01 to the state of the
- 16:06world 0 or one if they're equal then the
- 16:09voters are going to receive a payoff uh
- 16:11called delta. If he decide if the
- 16:14politician decides not to equate his
- 16:17action to the state of the world then
- 16:18the voters will receive a payoff of
- 16:20zero. Okay.
- 16:26On top of that, there's going to be two
- 16:28types of politicians. There's going to
- 16:30be a politician that we're going to call
- 16:32a non-corrupt politician denoted by NC,
- 16:36and then a corrupt politician denoted by
- 16:39C. And we're going to let pi be the
- 16:43proportion of non-corrupt politicians in
- 16:46the population. Okay? Um, and that's
- 16:50going to matter because if a if uh if
- 16:54voters decide not to reelect the
- 16:57incumbent, then they're going to draw a
- 17:00population, a challenger, they're going
- 17:02to draw a challenger from from the
- 17:04population at random. And so the voters
- 17:07will then know that with probability pi,
- 17:11that politician is going to be
- 17:12non-corrupt. So keep that in mind for
- 17:14when we talk about how voters vote.
- 17:18Um all politicians are going to receive
- 17:20an ego rent e for holding office. And
- 17:23this is just another motive that
- 17:25politicians may have for holding office.
- 17:28And uh and then non-corrupt polit and
- 17:31the distinction between noncorrupt
- 17:34politicians and corrupt politicians is
- 17:36that non-corrupt politicians their
- 17:39incentives are aligned with the voters.
- 17:41And what do we mean by that? Well,
- 17:44they're going to receive a payoff equal
- 17:46to delta if they set their actions equal
- 17:49to the state of the world and zero and
- 17:52then and nothing otherwise. Okay, so
- 17:55they're so they're clearly aligned with
- 17:57the voters. The corrupt politicians on
- 18:01the other hand have the opportunity to
- 18:04receive some rents are from setting
- 18:08policy not equal to the state of the
- 18:10world. Okay, where r is going to be you
- 18:14know randomly distributed from some
- 18:17distribution with you know a support
- 18:20with of with a mean with a sorry with a
- 18:24mean meu and some support over zero r.
- 18:27So that's just the definition of that
- 18:28distribution.
- 18:30On top of that there's going to be some
- 18:34probability of getting caught gamma if
- 18:37they choose to steal. And so their
- 18:40expected cost of of stealing is going to
- 18:44be is going to be you know gamma gamma
- 18:47r. And so notice that what gamma is do
- 18:51the role that gamma is playing in this
- 18:53model is that it's going to be our our
- 18:56lever into uh promote into uh horizontal
- 19:01accountability. So this would be we can
- 19:03think of this as kind of a reduced form
- 19:05way of introducing horizontal
- 19:08accountability into into the model.
- 19:13Okay. So the timing of the game is as
- 19:16follows. So at the beginning of period
- 19:19one, a politician is elected at random.
- 19:24there's going to be some state of the
- 19:26world ST that is revealed only to the
- 19:29incumbent
- 19:31and as well as their type uh whether
- 19:33they're corrupt or non-corrupt if if
- 19:35newly elected. Okay, so this is so
- 19:37they're going to so the what are the
- 19:39sources of of um information asymmetry
- 19:44or uncertainty is the state of the world
- 19:46and the politicians type. So so the
- 19:49voters don't observe either one of those
- 19:51things.
- 19:53If the politician is corrupt, he's going
- 19:56to observe the rent that he could steal.
- 19:59So remember that's that's a draw from
- 20:01this G distribution.
- 20:04And then given that either, you know, if
- 20:07it's a corrupt or non-corrupt, the
- 20:09incumbent's going to choose
- 20:12his his policy decision uh EFT
- 20:16voter. This is going to then translate
- 20:18into some utilities uh for voters.
- 20:22But voters are only going to observe
- 20:24delta with some probability kai before
- 20:27heading to the poll. So we can the
- 20:29motivation for this might be we just
- 20:31don't know what the effect of that
- 20:33policy is going to be until much later.
- 20:35So we don't know whether we're going to
- 20:36benefit or not.
- 20:39After the elections, the corrupt
- 20:41politicians are going to draw a new
- 20:43rent. We'll call that R2.
- 20:46the same set of decisions and payoffs
- 20:49are going to be realized in the second
- 20:51period and then importantly after the
- 20:54second period the world ends. So the
- 20:56game is over. Okay? So there's no third
- 20:59period and fourth period. So you know at
- 21:02that point there's no more reelection
- 21:04incentives. And so that's that's you
- 21:06know that's how we're going to kind of
- 21:08introduce re-election incentives in the
- 21:10in the model in the sense that the first
- 21:12period the incumbent will have this
- 21:14possibility of getting reelected into
- 21:16the second period but in the second
- 21:18period because the game ends there's no
- 21:20reelection incentives. So this is going
- 21:22to provide us with the variation that we
- 21:24need to think about how reelection
- 21:26incentives affect politician behavior.
- 21:32Okay. So here is the basic timeline of
- 21:35the game uh just shown graphically uh
- 21:38you know I hopefully hopefully all this
- 21:41is clear but um and so let me go ahead
- 21:43and and and skip this slide.
- 21:46So so what's what's the solution to this
- 21:50game? Well we're going to solve it. Uh
- 21:53the solution concept will be something
- 21:54called perfect basian dash equilibrium.
- 21:58Um and basically what we do there is we
- 22:01start uh you know in the final period
- 22:03and then work our ways uh backward.
- 22:07Okay. So what are what what is the
- 22:09behavior of non-corrupt politicians?
- 22:12Well remember non corrupt politicians
- 22:16have their incentives completely aligned
- 22:19with voters. So what are they going to
- 22:21do? They're going to set EFT equal to S
- 22:24of T in both periods. Right? So they
- 22:27have every incentive to provide the
- 22:30public good because they're just going
- 22:31to that's you know that's you know
- 22:34that's that's what maximizes their
- 22:36welfare.
- 22:38The noncorrupt politician well what
- 22:40would a non-corrupt politician do in
- 22:42period two? Well, in period two, he's
- 22:46the politician's going to set their
- 22:48policy not equal to the state of the
- 22:50world because in that case, he'll be
- 22:53able to extract rents and he's better
- 22:56off if he's able to do that.
- 22:59Where the decision gets a bit more
- 23:01interesting is in the first period. So,
- 23:05in the first period, what's the
- 23:07trade-off that a corrupt politician can
- 23:09do? Well, in the first period, he could
- 23:13set EFT equal to SFT. Now, remember, by
- 23:17setting policy equal to state of the
- 23:19world, he's not going to get anything.
- 23:20He's not be going to be able to um to
- 23:24extract any run in that case. And so,
- 23:26his utility will be zero in that. But
- 23:30what he might be able to do is convince
- 23:33voters
- 23:35to be sort of quote unquote a good type
- 23:38politician, right? So voters are trying
- 23:41to determine whether their incumbents
- 23:43good, corrupt or non-corrupt. And so if
- 23:46you know if the politician sets policy
- 23:49equal the state of the world then he
- 23:51might be able to pull this is why we
- 23:53call it pooling equilibrium in which he
- 23:57pretends to be a good type and then he
- 24:00may get elected into the second period
- 24:03in which case once he's in the second
- 24:05period as we just discussed he can then
- 24:07steal some rents right so on the other
- 24:11hand maybe he can on the other hand he
- 24:15may decide just to extract rents in the
- 24:18first period
- 24:20and then and in that case there's a good
- 24:23chance that that voters will observe
- 24:26that he's that they didn't get the
- 24:28public goods or there's some probability
- 24:29that and then if they observe that they
- 24:32didn't get the pro the the public goods
- 24:35then in that case for sure they know
- 24:37that the politician is corrupt and so
- 24:40then they won't reelect him. Okay. And
- 24:42so and so there's this tradeoff that
- 24:45politicians face and and in particular
- 24:48there's this particular threshold where
- 24:51we're where we're going to see whether
- 24:53or not there's a pooling equilibrium and
- 24:55that's what's given and that's the
- 24:57expression that's given below in one of
- 24:59these sub bullet points. Right? So if
- 25:02the rent remember there's this random
- 25:04draw of of rents that the politician can
- 25:07can achieve and if it's below this RC
- 25:11and what's RC there? RC is this
- 25:14discounted return. So the benefits of
- 25:16holding office in the second period. And
- 25:19so if if the rents that they that they
- 25:24receive in the first period is less than
- 25:27R RFC, then they're going to they're
- 25:29they're going to refrain from from rent
- 25:32extraction. They're not going to engage
- 25:33in corruption. However, if it's larger
- 25:36than RFC, then they're going to they're
- 25:39going to set policy not equal to the
- 25:41state of the world so that they can
- 25:43extract rents. So hopefully the logic of
- 25:45that is is very clear. Um we can see
- 25:49this uh graphically uh uh in the
- 25:53following way. So each corrupt
- 25:54politician draws this rent R from G.
- 25:58If R is less than RF RFC, then stealing
- 26:02is not worth losing office and he'll
- 26:05refrain from from holding office. Um and
- 26:09so he'll look honest in the process. But
- 26:12if RFC is greater or sorry if R is
- 26:16greater than RFC then he's going to go
- 26:18ahead and steal. Okay. And so you can
- 26:20see the proportion of Paul. So what this
- 26:23graph on the left shows is the
- 26:24proportion of of corrupt types based on
- 26:28the draw that are going to refrain for
- 26:32corrupt from from stealing um versus
- 26:35those that are going to uh extract rent
- 26:38in the f in the first period. And what's
- 26:41important is um
- 26:44uh there's these there's this uh the
- 26:47this gamma and kai which is kai is the
- 26:51probability that you observe if you
- 26:53recall it's the probability that you
- 26:55observe the your utility
- 26:58um if you the higher you move those
- 27:01things meaning the higher you the the
- 27:04higher that kai is the more likely
- 27:06you're obser you observe your utility
- 27:09the more you the more the this this
- 27:12decision point will shift to the to the
- 27:14right and the less the less you're going
- 27:16to you're going to steal or the more
- 27:18politicians you're going to get we're
- 27:20going to refrain and the same logic
- 27:22applies for gamma which is this
- 27:24probability of being punished okay and
- 27:27I'm going to be more explicit about
- 27:28these comparative statics in a second
- 27:30okay so what are what are the voter
- 27:32strategy here so the voter strategy is
- 27:35to reelect a non uh politician since the
- 27:39game ends in period 2. So what does that
- 27:42mean? Well, if they don't observe delta,
- 27:44then their beliefs are going to remain
- 27:46the same as their prior. What was their
- 27:49prior? It was pi because you know the
- 27:51pool of noncrupt politicians was pi. As
- 27:53I mentioned, if they do observe delta,
- 27:57well then voters are going to update
- 27:59their belief according to bae rule that
- 28:02the incumbent is non is non-corrupt. And
- 28:05if you work out the bay rule, basically
- 28:08it gives you the following equation in
- 28:10the middle here that you know we don't
- 28:12need to go over in in much detail, but
- 28:15basically what this tells us is what's
- 28:17the probability that the politician is
- 28:19non-corrupt conditional on on on delta.
- 28:24Okay. And that's what that's what this
- 28:26expression gives. Notice that there's
- 28:28this kai here which is you've observed
- 28:30delta and then you have this ex this
- 28:33probability here and then and this is
- 28:36your updated probability that the person
- 28:38is is is is
- 28:41um is corrupt or uh sorry non-corrupt
- 28:45conditional on on observing delta and
- 28:48then this is your the the your one minus
- 28:52kai is the probability of not observing
- 28:54delta and then this is the your your
- 28:56belief of of being noncorrupt
- 28:58conditional on not observing delta. And
- 29:01so given given this expression what it's
- 29:04what one can show is that this
- 29:06expression is greater than um than uh
- 29:11than pi and so voters have a dominant
- 29:14strategy to reelect the incumbent if
- 29:16they observe delta. Okay.
- 29:20Um so so given that uh the you know
- 29:25accountability is a key is key to
- 29:27disciplining politicians and increasing
- 29:30uh voter welfare. And as I mentioned to
- 29:33you there in this model there's three
- 29:36levers for accountability. There's
- 29:39vertical accountability which appears
- 29:41through this G function this G RFC
- 29:45component. And we can think of these we
- 29:48can think of vertical accountability as
- 29:49like having free and fair elections that
- 29:52incentivize politicians to behave due to
- 29:55the reelection pressures. And so this G
- 29:58of RC is what's capturing this
- 30:00reelection uh incentives. And then as I
- 30:03mentioned to you before there's also
- 30:05this horizontal accountability component
- 30:07which is capturing by this parameter
- 30:09gamma. and and one can interpret this as
- 30:12a re as a reduced form of way of
- 30:14reflecting you know the checks from the
- 30:17courts or other oversight institutions
- 30:20like audit institutions and so forth and
- 30:22so a higher gamma raises the corruption
- 30:26threshold RFC as I showed you
- 30:28graphically making rent extraction less
- 30:30likely
- 30:32and then the third component is this
- 30:35diagonal accountability uh kai and we
- 30:38could we could argue that this is going
- 30:40be determined or a function of the role
- 30:42of media and civil society in societ in
- 30:45in in in the location. And so if you
- 30:48have, you know, independent watchd dogs
- 30:51or independent media, then the
- 30:54presumably this diagonal accountability
- 30:56is going to increase and so a higher Kai
- 31:00is going to strengthen uh deterrence and
- 31:03then uh reduce the likelihood of
- 31:05corruption.
- 31:07Um so in the next couple slides I I go
- 31:11through and I explain how we we derived
- 31:14this welfare
- 31:16uh function that I that I present in the
- 31:19other other slide. But for the sake of
- 31:21time because I want to I want to give
- 31:24Clauddio time to to go over uh a lot of
- 31:27the the empirical research that's that's
- 31:30been you know that's been growing over
- 31:32the last 5 to 10 years. Let me go ahead
- 31:35and and skip uh this this part here. Um
- 31:40which which you know you can go over
- 31:42these slides uh at your own leisure and
- 31:45so forth. And and let me just uh finish
- 31:48off on on the empirical implications of
- 31:52this model and why this model has been
- 31:55such a workhorse for thinking about uh
- 31:58incumbent behavior and so forth. And so
- 32:02uh what we and so as a result a lot of
- 32:04these you know uh a lot of these uh
- 32:07empirical implications from this model
- 32:09have been borne out in the literature as
- 32:11as as Claudia is going to mention but
- 32:14basically what we see is that you know
- 32:15when there's more media more information
- 32:18and this can be in in the context of
- 32:20better radios newspapers internet we see
- 32:23that corruption goes down if in places
- 32:27where you know courts function well
- 32:29where there's audit agencies. There's,
- 32:31you know, you know, independent
- 32:33prosecutors, better oversight in
- 32:35general. We also see in those places
- 32:38corruption is much lower. There's also
- 32:41interesting interactions between uh
- 32:44between uh diagonal accountability and
- 32:46horizontal accountability uh where the
- 32:49effects of media becomes even larger
- 32:52when oversight is stronger. Um and then
- 32:57you know and then also we and and
- 33:00importantly we also see that uh based on
- 33:03term limits that mayor that politicians
- 33:06who are term limited are going to engage
- 33:09in more corruption than politicians that
- 33:12are not termlimited. Um and this can and
- 33:15and we can show that in a variety of
- 33:16way. Now there's a lot of empirical
- 33:18challenges associated with these
- 33:20predictions namely in trying to find
- 33:23exogenous variation
- 33:25because things like you know whether we
- 33:28have good judiciary system or whether
- 33:30the media is independent those are all
- 33:32endogenous. Um and then the other
- 33:35challenge is that corruption is rarely
- 33:37observed.
- 33:39So we need to we need to find a credible
- 33:42measure of corruption which is something
- 33:44that the literature has has struggled
- 33:46with for a long time. Um and then
- 33:48there's you know and then we both in
- 33:50this model which I didn't quite discuss
- 33:52but you know if you get interested in
- 33:54this model and go in more detail what
- 33:56you'll realize is that there's two
- 33:58mechanisms at play. There's a discipline
- 34:00mechanism in the sense that what
- 34:01re-election incentives are doing is it's
- 34:03it's refrain it's it's providing the
- 34:06incentives for politicians to refrain
- 34:08from corruption. But there's all this
- 34:10but there's also a selection mechanism
- 34:13role that elections play which is what
- 34:15elections do is they help voters
- 34:20u uh select the best politician. And so
- 34:24there's this mix of the, you know, mix
- 34:26of of good and bad type politicians that
- 34:28can also affect aggregate behavior as we
- 34:32would see it. And so with this, let me
- 34:36go ahead and and pass it uh pass it to
- 34:39to Clauddio to discuss some of the
- 34:42empirical evidence uh associated with
- 34:45this model.
- 34:59Okay, great. Uh, thanks Fred.
- 35:04Maximize this.
- 35:06Is this
- 35:08Okay, what what I'm going to do is uh
- 35:12provide you. We don't have a lot of
- 35:13time. We only have like half an hour. So
- 35:16what I'm going to try to do is convey
- 35:19some of the empirical evidence that we
- 35:21have uh for some of uh this topics that
- 35:24we have been discussing. If you are more
- 35:27interested, one of the readings that uh
- 35:29we told you that you could read is this
- 35:31chapter that Fred and I wrote for for
- 35:34the handbook of political economy that's
- 35:35forthcoming. So you can uh read a lot of
- 35:38uh the evidence that we know on the
- 35:40different types of accountability. What
- 35:42I'm going to do because we don't have a
- 35:44lot of time is actually focus on uh the
- 35:47electoral accountability, the vertical
- 35:49type of accountability and then some of
- 35:52these other discussions about horizontal
- 35:55judicial systems and media and all that
- 35:58you can find that in that in our in our
- 36:00chapter. So mostly uh I'm going to focus
- 36:03on two different types of questions
- 36:05which the one way to think about it they
- 36:08are kind of like the two sides of of of
- 36:11the accountability that we've been
- 36:13discussing about one is the question on
- 36:16whether elections discipline
- 36:18politicians. Is it the case that if
- 36:20politicians going to face elections the
- 36:22re-election perspective
- 36:25does that as the model will predict will
- 36:28discipline politician to behave better
- 36:31get reelected and then being able to
- 36:33enjoy those rents either monetary rents
- 36:36or ego rents in the second period that
- 36:39they're in office. I mean of course the
- 36:42model is simplifying a reality that's a
- 36:44little bit different because politicians
- 36:45maybe can be reelected for many periods
- 36:47and all that. The model is very simple
- 36:50but the overall implication is that
- 36:52elections will discipline politicians.
- 36:54So that will be kind of the first uh
- 36:56part that I'm going to discuss. And then
- 36:59the second part that I'm going to
- 37:00discuss that's also needed in order for
- 37:02this to happen is that the only reason
- 37:05why politicians will be disciplined by
- 37:08elections is if they believe that voters
- 37:11know something and once voters know
- 37:14something they're going to hold
- 37:15politicians accountable. So the
- 37:17prediction that comes out of that is
- 37:20that information should affect the way
- 37:23that voters vote. Voters will use that
- 37:26information to say reward good
- 37:29performance or punish that performance
- 37:32because without that then politicians
- 37:34will not anticipate that if they don't
- 37:36behave well they will get reelected. So
- 37:38I'm going to discuss both types of
- 37:40evidence. It's going to be focused on
- 37:42the readings that we asked uh you you to
- 37:45read, but I'm going to bring in a couple
- 37:47of other pieces of evidence as well as I
- 37:50as I present this this evidence.
- 37:54So, as Fred was mentioning, there are
- 37:56many challenges in answering this uh
- 37:59research questions. Uh
- 38:03one is that re-election incentives and
- 38:04voter information not randomly assigned,
- 38:07right? So, we cannot just purely
- 38:09compare. Oh, let me compare politicians
- 38:11that face re-election incentives with
- 38:13those that do not if the re-election
- 38:17incentives are coming from their choice
- 38:19of running for election again or not
- 38:22because that's an indogenous choice that
- 38:23they make. Uh so that's going to be a
- 38:26challenge. It's also the case that it's
- 38:29going to be hard to measure uh things
- 38:31that we care about. So if you want to
- 38:33for example measure rents then we need a
- 38:35measure of corruption and people going
- 38:37to try to hide corruption and stuff. So
- 38:40how do we actually get data to measure
- 38:43those things? And then we have we need
- 38:46some type of exogenous variation and and
- 38:48and most of the literature have used
- 38:52either variation in changes in policies
- 38:54that generate change in term limits.
- 38:57They all of a sudden some politicians
- 38:59can get reelected, others cannot.
- 39:02Sometimes people have used closed
- 39:03elections, timing and and and things
- 39:07like that. And on the information, a lot
- 39:09of the evidence they're going to
- 39:10provide, they're going to come from
- 39:11either new policies that somehow provide
- 39:15information in a random or quasi random
- 39:18way or for example differential media
- 39:21markets across localities where some
- 39:24places have more media than others or I
- 39:26mean there's a more recent evidence also
- 39:28using field experiments to understand
- 39:30the role of of information.
- 39:35So the the first question that we're
- 39:39going to ask here is well if voters use
- 39:43the information to enforce
- 39:45accountability is it the case that
- 39:47politicians that face re-election
- 39:48incentives behave in a different way
- 39:52and I'm going to answer this question
- 39:55describing some research that friend and
- 39:57I did many years ago where we look at
- 40:00the setting of mayors in Brazil.
- 40:04And this is an interesting setting
- 40:06because we have the two things that I
- 40:09was describing that we need in order to
- 40:11study this one is variation that some
- 40:14politicians can get reelected and others
- 40:17cannot. So that's kind of like the first
- 40:19piece that we need. And then the second
- 40:22piece that we need if we want to study
- 40:24for example rents is some measure of
- 40:28corruption that in our case is going to
- 40:31come from federal audits that were done
- 40:34by the federal government in local
- 40:36governments. And what we're going to do
- 40:39is that we're going to exploit the fact
- 40:41that
- 40:43up until 1996 in Brazil like in many
- 40:46countries local politicians were not
- 40:49allowed to get reelected. They had four
- 40:51years in office and then they had to
- 40:53leave. There were no possibility of
- 40:55re-election and there was a
- 40:57constitutional change that allowed
- 41:00mayors and other politicians as well but
- 41:03our study we're focusing on mayors to
- 41:06get reelected. Now because this was
- 41:09allowed in 1997
- 41:11then what happened is in 2000 some of
- 41:14those people got reelected while others
- 41:17did not get reelected. So that means
- 41:20that in the period that we're going to
- 41:22study here, which is this period between
- 41:262000 and 2004,
- 41:29this period here, we're going to have
- 41:32mayors that can get reelected and mayors
- 41:35that cannot get reelected. I don't know
- 41:39how to do an ad here.
- 41:42So, we're going to have two types of
- 41:43mayors. We're going to observe their
- 41:46corruption level and then we're going to
- 41:49compare if we compare mayors that cannot
- 41:52get reelected with the ones that can
- 41:54controlling for the fact that maybe some
- 41:57characteristics of these municipalities
- 41:59are different. How do they fair? How do
- 42:01they compare one to the other?
- 42:05So, as I was saying in the beginning,
- 42:07this is data from a controllers's office
- 42:11that randomly selects through a public
- 42:13lottery municipalities to get audited.
- 42:16And what we're going to do is read the
- 42:18audit reports and come up with a measure
- 42:20of corruption in terms of the amount of
- 42:23money that was diverted over invoice
- 42:25procurements that had like corrupt
- 42:27practices etc. And with that, we're
- 42:29going to have a measure of the share of
- 42:33resources in that municipality during
- 42:36that window of time that had corrupt
- 42:39practices. Or another way to think about
- 42:41is like what share of money got diverted
- 42:44for corruption in those places. And
- 42:47we're going to have a those measures
- 42:49were a little bit less than 500 places
- 42:52across 11 lotteryies that this was done.
- 42:56And we're going to run the following
- 42:57regression. We're going to regress a
- 42:59corruption level against an indicator on
- 43:03whether in that municipality mayors can
- 43:06and cannot get reelected. We're going to
- 43:09control for a rich set of municipal and
- 43:11mayor characteristics.
- 43:13And we're also going to try to address
- 43:16the fact that once you compare first and
- 43:18second term mayors, the beta coefficient
- 43:21that we have in this regression might
- 43:24not only represent differential
- 43:26re-election incentives, but might also
- 43:29represent, for example, different
- 43:30selection or different experience.
- 43:34So, what we're going to find is that
- 43:38mayors that are in a first term and can
- 43:40get reelected are significantly less
- 43:44corrupt than mayors that are in a second
- 43:46term and cannot get reelected. So
- 43:49re-election incentives
- 43:51implies that these mayors are afraid
- 43:54that voters are going to find out that
- 43:56they're stealing money and are going to
- 43:58refrain from red seeking from corruption
- 44:02in a way that they look 27% less corrupt
- 44:07than the mayors that cannot get
- 44:09reelected.
- 44:14Another way to look at these results is
- 44:16to say look let's use a different design
- 44:18where we not only compare for example
- 44:20all the mayors in a first and second
- 44:23term but let's focus on those that are a
- 44:27little bit more similar in terms of the
- 44:30municipalities where they are.
- 44:32If we do a regression discontinuous
- 44:34design where we compare localities where
- 44:36a mayor got reelected by a small margin
- 44:40and a municipality where the mayor lost
- 44:43by a small margin, then what we have is
- 44:45a quasi experiment where by a little bit
- 44:49of a margin of victory, we have a mayor
- 44:52that's a second term visav mayor that is
- 44:54a first term. And when we do this
- 44:56comparison, we find actually results are
- 44:59not that different. sometimes even a
- 45:01little bit larger than the original
- 45:03results that I showed you before. So
- 45:05what you see in this figure is to the
- 45:08right places where you have someone that
- 45:10got reelected now is in the final term
- 45:13are more corrupt that places where you
- 45:16have a new mayor that now face
- 45:18re-election incentives than those people
- 45:21they are actually less corrupt.
- 45:26Now, if re-election incentives really
- 45:28matter, we should not observe that only
- 45:31for corruption. We also should observe
- 45:33that mayors that face re-election
- 45:35incentives are trying to put more effort
- 45:39in order to try reelect it. And what we
- 45:42do to test that is we look at grants
- 45:45that in the case of Brazil but that's
- 45:47true in many other countries where
- 45:49mayors local politicians can try to
- 45:52bring resources to their locality or
- 45:54their municipality
- 45:56by suggesting infrastructure projects to
- 45:59build roads to build schools to bring
- 46:01health clinics to bring tractors to
- 46:04bring machines etc to their localities.
- 46:07If we believe that re-election
- 46:09incentives really matter, then what we
- 46:11should find is that these mayors, they
- 46:14should be trying to attract more
- 46:16resources.
- 46:18So what I'm displaying here in these
- 46:20figures are the coefficients of first
- 46:24term versus second term mayors,
- 46:27whether they received a grant, the
- 46:30amount of grant they receive, and the
- 46:32share of the grant that they receive
- 46:34based on what they apply for. So the
- 46:37positive coefficient means that mayors
- 46:41that have a re-election incentives get
- 46:43more stuff. Not only because they ask
- 46:46for more stuff in terms of the discrete
- 46:49variable, but even the amount of stuff
- 46:51that they ask for and that they get is a
- 46:54function of the effort that they make.
- 46:56But we also find that this effect tends
- 46:59to be larger the closest that you get to
- 47:02an election. So the election year his
- 47:04was 2004. And you can see how if you
- 47:08have re-election incentives, you try to
- 47:09bring more stuff to your municipality
- 47:11and you make a larger effort the closer
- 47:14you get to the election day.
- 47:18Okay. So, so now let me switch to a
- 47:23complimentary type of evidence to
- 47:25convince you that politicians really
- 47:28care about the fact that voters know
- 47:31something about them and react to them.
- 47:34So this is a very different setting and
- 47:35a different very different research
- 47:37design. So this is Bergian and Qualters
- 47:40looking at Delhi municipal counselors
- 47:43studying a newspaper report card on
- 47:46their performance before an election. So
- 47:49what these researchers did is they put
- 47:51together a report card with a
- 47:54description of what this politician is,
- 47:58their biography, what they did in terms
- 48:01of how they spent a pot of money that
- 48:04they can distribute in terms of topics.
- 48:06This is a setting where a lot of the
- 48:09individuals are poor. So these are like
- 48:11in really poor neighborhoods in in
- 48:13Delhi. So part of what this variation is
- 48:17is going to capture is whether
- 48:18politicians are really delivering these
- 48:20projects for the poorest of the poor or
- 48:23not.
- 48:26And what they find is they're going to
- 48:30go and they're going to pro tell
- 48:33politicians, a subset of politicians
- 48:35that this information is going to be
- 48:37shown to voters, but a randomly set of
- 48:40politicians are not going to have their
- 48:44performance disclosed to voters. So
- 48:47that's the first experiment that they
- 48:49do. And then the second type of
- 48:51experiment to complement this one where
- 48:54is where they vary how public is the
- 48:56information that is going to be provided
- 48:59about the politicians.
- 49:02And what they find which is the more uh
- 49:05I I'll say the more meaningful uh result
- 49:08here in this experiment is that if you
- 49:11look after you tell politicians that the
- 49:16way they're spending the money is going
- 49:17to become a public information what you
- 49:20observe is in these settings that a lot
- 49:23of people are really poor and legally
- 49:25Islams is the prop poor spending
- 49:29significantly increases. So politicians
- 49:32respond to the fact that information is
- 49:34going to become available that people
- 49:36are going to know how they spend the
- 49:37money and are really afraid of
- 49:39re-election incentives and therefore
- 49:41they want to make the best thing that
- 49:43they can do in order to try to get
- 49:46reelected.
- 49:52So let me provide a third uh example on
- 49:55this before I switch into the role of
- 49:58information. I'm going to be but I also
- 50:01want to provide an example that's about
- 50:03the subsaharan Africa context. So this
- 50:06is work by uh Roger and Smani where is a
- 50:10little bit different. They look at local
- 50:12water systems in three countries in
- 50:15Nigeria, in Sierra Leon, and in
- 50:17Tanzania.
- 50:19And they're not going to be looking at
- 50:21electro incentives, but they're going to
- 50:23be comparing
- 50:25today, many years after the decision
- 50:28about water infrastructure was built,
- 50:32the quality of the infrastructure, if it
- 50:35was built before the election or after
- 50:37the election. So the idea here is that
- 50:40if incumbents before an election have
- 50:43incentives to show to the voters that
- 50:45they're doing things right, the
- 50:48infrastructure that you build before an
- 50:49election will be better, better quality,
- 50:53more long living compared to the
- 50:55infrastructure that you build after the
- 50:57election.
- 50:59And they have water points all around
- 51:03built all around Nigeria, Sierra, Leon,
- 51:05and Tanzania.
- 51:06And then what they're going to do is for
- 51:08the different countries they're going to
- 51:09look at house of representatives, local
- 51:11councils and national assembly depending
- 51:13on the type of politician in in each one
- 51:16of the countries. And what they're going
- 51:18to find is that if you look at the
- 51:20functionality of the water system today
- 51:24and you compare the ones that were built
- 51:26after the election compared to the ones
- 51:29built before the election, the ones
- 51:31built after the election, they do way
- 51:33worse in the long run. consistent with
- 51:35the idea that the election provides
- 51:38incentives for politicians to build
- 51:41better infrastructure compared to if
- 51:44you're building the infrastructure after
- 51:45the election already has passed.
- 51:51So, so this first part of the lecture is
- 51:54is is trying to provide you evidence and
- 51:56testing some of the the parts of the
- 51:59model that Fred was talking about. This
- 52:01idea that if politicians face
- 52:04re-election incentives, they're going to
- 52:06make more effort and they're going to
- 52:08behave in a better way. Now, this only
- 52:11makes sense, of course, if they think
- 52:14that if voters learn about something,
- 52:17voters are going to make them
- 52:18accountable at the polls. So, what I'm
- 52:21going to do next is provide you evidence
- 52:23in different settings of voter account
- 52:27making politicians accountable at the
- 52:29polls starting with corruption, but then
- 52:31I'm also going to provide a couple of
- 52:33other examples. So the first evidence
- 52:36comes also from the work that friend and
- 52:38I did also many years ago that uses the
- 52:42same variation that I was mentioning
- 52:44before. But in this paper here we using
- 52:48the fact that the places that were
- 52:50decided in order to be audited in these
- 52:53localities were chosen at random. So
- 52:55there was a public lottery. Some places
- 52:58were chosen to be audited before the
- 53:01election that occur in October 2004.
- 53:05other places were chosen to be audited
- 53:08after the election that occur right here
- 53:10in October 2004. So what we have the
- 53:14facto is a natural experiment where for
- 53:18all these voters here they're going to
- 53:20learn about the audit results and
- 53:23whether their incumbent politicians are
- 53:25corrupt or not. While for all these
- 53:28other voters here, they eventually going
- 53:32to learn what happened when the audits
- 53:34come to town, but they only going to
- 53:36learn about it after the election
- 53:38already has passed. So you can think of
- 53:40this as a treatment group that's going
- 53:42to get the information and a control
- 53:44group that also is going to get the
- 53:45information, but only after the election
- 53:49has already passed.
- 53:53So what we find in this paper is that
- 53:58politicians that are revealed to be
- 54:01corrupt are significantly punished in
- 54:04the polls. So this is the number of
- 54:06corrupt violations are found and these
- 54:09are the reelection rates. You can see
- 54:11that in blue this is the control group.
- 54:14So in the control group the average
- 54:16re-election rate is something close to
- 54:1843%.
- 54:20While the treatment group when the
- 54:23information that the politician is
- 54:25corrupt comes in, you see that the
- 54:28re-election rate goes down to 30
- 54:30eventually 20%.
- 54:33So that's the punishment that voters are
- 54:36doing when information about politicians
- 54:39come out that they are corrupt. On the
- 54:41other hand, if there is information that
- 54:45the politician is clean, so there's no
- 54:47corruption found in that municipality,
- 54:50then this good news is actually rewarded
- 54:52by voters and the reelection rate
- 54:55increases from something around 43%
- 54:59for something around 54 or 55%. So
- 55:04almost like 10 percentage point. is a
- 55:06massive increase in the re-election rate
- 55:09when voters find out that their
- 55:12politician comes out clean when
- 55:14governments do this type of audits in
- 55:17the municipalities.
- 55:20And also related to something that Fred
- 55:22was was discussing about the media, what
- 55:25this paper shows is that this effects
- 55:27that I just shown you are magnified in
- 55:31places where you had local media to
- 55:34provide that information and diffuse
- 55:36that information. Now, in the case of
- 55:38Brazil, this is we're looking like more
- 55:40than 20 years ago where internet
- 55:41penetration was really really low.
- 55:44Social media didn't really exist.
- 55:46National TV don't really cover the small
- 55:48local municipalities. So, a lot of the
- 55:51information flows, they go through
- 55:52radio. So, if you compare places with
- 55:55and without radio, in those places, you
- 55:58really get this magnified effects of
- 56:01this new information and how politicians
- 56:04are being punished for corruption and
- 56:06rewarded for uh good performance.
- 56:11Now, is it the case that bad information
- 56:14always hurt the incumbents? So, I'm
- 56:17going to complement what I just showed
- 56:19you with a couple of uh other pieces of
- 56:23of of research.
- 56:25But one thing that's really important
- 56:27that some people have shown is that
- 56:29sometimes bad news is not great news
- 56:33because it disengages people from the
- 56:35electoral process. So Shan and Qualters
- 56:39have shown that in the case of Mexico
- 56:41for example when you provide information
- 56:43that politicians are corrupt. If there
- 56:46is a perception then that all
- 56:48politicians are corrupt this can
- 56:51disengage people from the electoral
- 56:53process and instead of people showing up
- 56:55to punish corrupt politicians they
- 56:57actually don't even show up to vote. So
- 56:59in countries where for example voting is
- 57:02not mandatory people choose to turn out
- 57:05to vote or not information on the
- 57:07quality of politicians can actually
- 57:10reduce turnout.
- 57:13The finding that information also is
- 57:17going to make voters punish corrupt
- 57:20politicians really depends and this is a
- 57:22point that at show in this paper from
- 57:26Mexico. It really depends on what's the
- 57:29baseline
- 57:31on perceptions that people already have.
- 57:33So what they do is that they do a
- 57:35similar experiment here except that they
- 57:38deliver leaflets doortodoor in a
- 57:41randomized way where they report the
- 57:44share of the mayor's federal
- 57:46infrastructure that is misspent. So they
- 57:49go to neighborhoods and they randomize
- 57:51that information and then they look at
- 57:54how people voted and what they find is
- 57:58actually that the leaflets were not
- 58:00worse than expected in the sense that
- 58:04you're providing information but in a
- 58:06setting where everybody believes that
- 58:09politicians are extremely corrupt. It
- 58:12can be that the information that you're
- 58:14providing is actually better than what
- 58:15people thought. Oh, I thought people
- 58:17were stealing a million dollars per
- 58:20month. Now people come in and tell you,
- 58:22oh, they actually only stealing a
- 58:23hundred thousand. What happens? Well, in
- 58:26the case of Mexico, they find that
- 58:28actually some politicians actually on
- 58:29average get rewarded. So, they get
- 58:32rewarded for being less corrupt than I
- 58:35initially expected. So, this is
- 58:37interesting because in this type of like
- 58:40experiments, I try to provide
- 58:41information. We need to be careful how
- 58:43to frame it, how to think about the
- 58:45types of information that that we are
- 58:48providing.
- 58:50The final piece of evidence that I want
- 58:52to give you is something about not only
- 58:56misbehavior of poor corruption, but how
- 59:00is it the case that voters think and
- 59:02reward the quality of the performance?
- 59:06And here I'm going to give you an
- 59:08example of some work that I have been
- 59:09doing with qualters looking at the
- 59:11quality of education in Brazil. So the
- 59:14setting here is a setting where in many
- 59:17poor and middle inome countries is
- 59:19really hard for voters to have a
- 59:22benchmark to compare the quality of
- 59:25public service delivery.
- 59:27Brazil back until uh 2005
- 59:31did not have a comparable metric for
- 59:34voters to know if their public schools
- 59:36were doing well or were not doing well.
- 59:40So what happens since then is that a
- 59:42national test standardized was created
- 59:46where all schools were obliged to take
- 59:48the test and then the information of the
- 59:52quality of the education for primary
- 59:54school was then delivered online made it
- 59:58public all the newspapers made pieces
- 1:00:00about it etc. Now, the way that this
- 1:00:03policy was implemented right before an
- 1:00:06election in 2008
- 1:00:08kept out of the system rural schools and
- 1:00:12schools that had less than 20 students
- 1:00:14to take this test. Meaning that we have
- 1:00:18a natural experiment when we have a
- 1:00:20comparison group that did not have the
- 1:00:23results of school quality that we can
- 1:00:25compare to voters that receive the
- 1:00:29information on school quality.
- 1:00:32So what we find is that in the top of
- 1:00:35the distribution, if voters knew about
- 1:00:39their schools in their municipalities
- 1:00:42doing well compared to like average
- 1:00:44schools, they rewarded in approximately
- 1:00:48two percentage points the incumbent
- 1:00:50mayor responsible for education.
- 1:00:53suggesting that if voters learn
- 1:00:57something where they can infer good
- 1:01:00quality, they can reward also
- 1:01:03politicians in the positive way and not
- 1:01:06necessarily only in the negative way
- 1:01:08respect to uh corruption.
- 1:01:11But then in this paper what we do is
- 1:01:13that we ask the following question which
- 1:01:15is do politicians then respond to this
- 1:01:19once there is information about the
- 1:01:21quality of schools then what we do is
- 1:01:24that we track infrastructure investment
- 1:01:27in schools and in this figure here what
- 1:01:29I'm doing is that I'm comparing schools
- 1:01:32in pink that were in the bottom on the
- 1:01:35quality distribution with schools in the
- 1:01:38blue that are in the top of the quality
- 1:01:40distribution.
- 1:01:41and I'm plotting the effects of
- 1:01:43providing the information after 2007 on
- 1:01:47an infrastructure index on school items
- 1:01:50such as equipment, facilities, services,
- 1:01:53etc. And what we find is that policy
- 1:01:56makers seem to be making more
- 1:01:58investments in infrastructure in those
- 1:02:01schools where information came out that
- 1:02:04those schools are not doing well in this
- 1:02:06comparison uh test scores.
- 1:02:09So to finish up uh key takeaways is that
- 1:02:14we have
- 1:02:17evidence
- 1:02:18that voters respond to cred public
- 1:02:21information which is something that is
- 1:02:23implicit in this political agency
- 1:02:25models, right? Like the idea behind this
- 1:02:27political agency model is that there's
- 1:02:29some asymmetric information between
- 1:02:32politicians and voters. But once voters
- 1:02:35get some information, they use going to
- 1:02:37use that information either to infer the
- 1:02:40type of politician that's trying to get
- 1:02:42reelected or the effort that the
- 1:02:45politician made and that's going to be
- 1:02:47used in order to reelect or not
- 1:02:49politicians.
- 1:02:51Media sometimes amplifies that
- 1:02:53information. So free media in many
- 1:02:55countries is really important in order
- 1:02:58to alleviate problems of asymmetric
- 1:03:01information and we also have evidence
- 1:03:04that politicians are going to respond to
- 1:03:06that. If they can get reelected they're
- 1:03:09going to reduce corruption. We have
- 1:03:10evidence of that. They might provide
- 1:03:12more visible infrastructure. They might
- 1:03:14invest in performance uh that maybe poor
- 1:03:18people are going to care about. Right?
- 1:03:19So they're going to care about many of
- 1:03:21those things. Now, of course, with this,
- 1:03:25I don't want to say that accountability
- 1:03:28is always going to work because there's
- 1:03:30going to be many, many settings, and
- 1:03:31this is how I'm going to finish the
- 1:03:33lecture where accountability is not
- 1:03:36going to work. And this is a little bit
- 1:03:37outside of the model that Fred
- 1:03:39presented. But if we try to think in
- 1:03:42practice why accountability does not
- 1:03:44work, it's really important to have some
- 1:03:47of these problems in mind. So, first we
- 1:03:50have old problems. And in the chapter
- 1:03:52that I mentioned in the beginning, we
- 1:03:54discussed many of these problems. Vote
- 1:03:56buying politicians that want to offset
- 1:03:59bad news just distributing cash or
- 1:04:02distributing food or distributing things
- 1:04:04that politicians think voters care
- 1:04:06about. Sometimes there is manipulation
- 1:04:09at the polls. There's fraud in
- 1:04:10elections. And
- 1:04:13worse than fraud, sometimes there's
- 1:04:15political violence when when you use
- 1:04:18intimidation, guns, groups, coercion in
- 1:04:23in order to either oblide some voters to
- 1:04:26vote or dismiss and block some voters to
- 1:04:29showing up uh to the polls. So these are
- 1:04:32problems that have been around for
- 1:04:34decades in many low and middle inome
- 1:04:35countries that we all know about and
- 1:04:38that can be problems when we think about
- 1:04:40political accountability. Compounded
- 1:04:43into those problems, I want to emphasize
- 1:04:45two more things that are becoming more
- 1:04:48and more important uh these days. One is
- 1:04:51polarization and of course in many poor
- 1:04:53and and developing countries
- 1:04:55polarization is an issue especially for
- 1:04:57example when v people vote along ethnic
- 1:05:00lines. So they can be important issues
- 1:05:03of polarization along ethnic lines for
- 1:05:05example. But nowadays even polarization
- 1:05:08in terms of ideology and increases in
- 1:05:10polarization can make politicians less
- 1:05:12accountable when someone would rather
- 1:05:15have their own corrupt politician rather
- 1:05:18than for example voting on someone from
- 1:05:20the other tribe.
- 1:05:22The second thing is the rise of social
- 1:05:26media and the spread of fake news and
- 1:05:29the at the same time decline for example
- 1:05:32of professional newspapers etc. that
- 1:05:36makes information very abundant but way
- 1:05:39less credible. And because we're we're
- 1:05:42saying that information is key in order
- 1:05:43to allow voters to learn about the type
- 1:05:46and the quality and the effort of
- 1:05:48politicians, then widespread social
- 1:05:50media and fake news can really be a
- 1:05:52problem and a threat to the way that we
- 1:05:55think about uh accountability.
- 1:05:58So, I'm going to stop there. I think I'm
- 1:06:00already uh out of time. I guess we have
- 1:06:03some minutes for questions. So, KB, I'm
- 1:06:06gonna uh
- 1:06:08get it back to you.
- 1:06:10>> Thanks so much, Claudio and Fred. Um I
- 1:06:13can see that some questions were
- 1:06:14answered throughout in the chat, but now
- 1:06:16is obviously the main time where where
- 1:06:18we can ask. Um if there are participants
- 1:06:21that would like to maybe come and ask uh
- 1:06:24as a live panelist, raise your hand and
- 1:06:26I can see if I can promote you.
- 1:06:28Otherwise, we'll just kind of toggle
- 1:06:29back and forth between who we have here
- 1:06:31and the ones in the chat.
- 1:06:34So Masoud maybe we'll start with you.
- 1:06:40>> Um salutations. Thank you professor. Um
- 1:06:44my question is uh regarding the the
- 1:06:46modeling of the first lecture in the
- 1:06:48first lecture and then the results in
- 1:06:51the latter lecture. In the first
- 1:06:53lecture, um, corruption and and the the
- 1:06:57best action of each politician is
- 1:07:00defined as if the politician acts
- 1:07:02according to the world in accordance
- 1:07:04with the world, the world will duly
- 1:07:07reward him. But the problem with this
- 1:07:10model is that uh I do not understand
- 1:07:13that when when when did we concluded
- 1:07:16that if the politician and always if a
- 1:07:18politician acts in accordance with the
- 1:07:21world the world will provide voters with
- 1:07:25any kind of rewards or benefits it in in
- 1:07:28many cases for example what comes to my
- 1:07:31mind in uh when the Carter was the
- 1:07:35president of United States that wasn't
- 1:07:37the case I believe Carter believed act
- 1:07:39in his best interest of his people but
- 1:07:42the world did not actually reward him or
- 1:07:44his people. So when the result came in
- 1:07:48when the empirical when the empirical
- 1:07:50result came in there were more about the
- 1:07:52allocation of results the the perfect
- 1:07:55allocation of results than what the
- 1:07:58model actually was about. The model was
- 1:08:00about getting the rewards but the
- 1:08:02empirical results was about changing the
- 1:08:05actions of the politician regarding how
- 1:08:09they anticipate the behavior of the
- 1:08:12voters not the reward or or the how the
- 1:08:16world are going to are is going to
- 1:08:20reward the their own their actions. uh
- 1:08:23in reality they were anticipating how
- 1:08:26the voters will react to their actions
- 1:08:31not how the world will react whether to
- 1:08:33the voters or whether to the
- 1:08:38>> so I can start and then Claudia you can
- 1:08:40jump in. I I went over the model uh
- 1:08:42fairly fast. So the so let me just
- 1:08:46restate the main purpose of the model.
- 1:08:48The main purpose of the model is to
- 1:08:50highlight the incentives that
- 1:08:53politicians face when delivering public
- 1:08:56goods or deciding to extract rent.
- 1:09:00And what the model makes very clear
- 1:09:01based on its structure is that when
- 1:09:05politicians have reelection incentives,
- 1:09:08they're going to behave differently
- 1:09:11than politicians who don't have
- 1:09:13re-election incentives. So that's why
- 1:09:15all the subsequent papers are testing
- 1:09:18this behavior of politicians, right?
- 1:09:21They're trying to understand, oh, when
- 1:09:23faced with this incentive,
- 1:09:26are politicians going to behave
- 1:09:28differently than not? And so that's
- 1:09:30that's the link between the model and
- 1:09:34and the empirical uh results that then
- 1:09:37follow.
- 1:09:39>> I see. But my point is whether if the
- 1:09:42incentive is
- 1:09:46uh how we anticipate the water's
- 1:09:48reaction
- 1:09:51or how we how we perceive the actual
- 1:09:55consequences of the politician's actions
- 1:09:59because there are two different things.
- 1:10:02One politician
- 1:10:04may act in accordance with what he
- 1:10:06thinks the water realtors will perceive
- 1:10:08that that this action will reward them
- 1:10:10but that action will not actually reward
- 1:10:12the voters. Okay. How you modeled your
- 1:10:16um question, how you model how how you
- 1:10:18model that is there was a connection
- 1:10:21between how the action will uh the world
- 1:10:24how how will reward the action but the
- 1:10:26empirical data will more likely uh to
- 1:10:30the spectrum that they show that how uh
- 1:10:32voters will treat the anticipation and
- 1:10:34the perception of voters how how they
- 1:10:37try to manipulate that and there's a
- 1:10:39difference and I I like to know your
- 1:10:41opinion on that. Sure there's uh yeah of
- 1:10:45course there's there's a difference the
- 1:10:47the the point of the model as and I
- 1:10:50think uh Patrick Francois highlighted
- 1:10:52this in his lecture is that you know
- 1:10:54there's certain empirical tests one
- 1:10:57would be to test the assumption of the
- 1:10:59model which is something that Clauddio
- 1:11:01presented in the second half the other
- 1:11:03is to test the implications of the model
- 1:11:06now all models are going to be
- 1:11:07reductionist in some sense um but you
- 1:11:11know and so and So you know it's not
- 1:11:14going to capture exactly every aspect
- 1:11:17that and in fact it's up to you as a
- 1:11:19researcher to decide what is the aspect
- 1:11:22that you're trying to explain. Are you
- 1:11:24trying to explain differences in the
- 1:11:27behavior of politicians or are you
- 1:11:29trying to explain the phen you know a
- 1:11:32phenomenon in which politicians may act
- 1:11:35appropriately and yet still voters may
- 1:11:38still not uh be rewarded in some sense.
- 1:11:41So those are, you know, it depends for
- 1:11:44that latter question. Maybe you wouldn't
- 1:11:46use a political agency model in that
- 1:11:48case. But what's important for me, I
- 1:11:50want to make sure that you understand is
- 1:11:51that in these models, voters don't
- 1:11:54observe the actions of politicians.
- 1:11:56That's the that's the entire point of
- 1:11:58this model because if they did observe
- 1:12:00the pol the actions of politicians, then
- 1:12:02there wouldn't be this asymmetry in
- 1:12:05information and and so they can and they
- 1:12:07can punish the politician accordingly.
- 1:12:09So it's precisely because they don't
- 1:12:11observe the action and they only observe
- 1:12:13the state of the world or the benefits
- 1:12:16uh you know either all the time or you
- 1:12:19know some of the times that you get that
- 1:12:22you get uh that it delivers the
- 1:12:25predictions that that that we see.
- 1:12:28Thanks so much. Um we have a few
- 1:12:31questions in in the chat around kind of
- 1:12:33the accountability failures in
- 1:12:35developing countries and I guess the
- 1:12:38underlying concern or or or core
- 1:12:40question is that the model assumes um
- 1:12:44that elections will discipline the
- 1:12:45politicians but sometimes that doesn't
- 1:12:47happen and so there is a one question
- 1:12:50from more blessing who asks why do
- 1:12:54accountability mechanisms fail in
- 1:12:56developing countries even when
- 1:12:57democratic institutions exist Is it an
- 1:13:00issue of democracy itself or more the
- 1:13:03inability of the institution to
- 1:13:05constrain power?
- 1:13:09Uh I can I can start and then so this
- 1:13:13was something that that Claudia alluded
- 1:13:15to in his last slide which if you you
- 1:13:17know if you wanted to read our h
- 1:13:19handbook chapter we go into quite you
- 1:13:21know quite some depth uh because the
- 1:13:23question that that we try to address in
- 1:13:25that is precisely why are these
- 1:13:29democracies malf what we would call
- 1:13:31malfunctioning now you're exactly right
- 1:13:34like the you know the model that that I
- 1:13:37presented today that we also present in
- 1:13:38the handbook chapter takes you know this
- 1:13:41very strong assumption that we do have
- 1:13:44free and fair elections right and so if
- 1:13:47you re if you you know relax that
- 1:13:49assumption then it you know the then the
- 1:13:53world gets much more complicated because
- 1:13:55and this is exactly what we see in a lot
- 1:13:58of uh lower inome countries which is you
- 1:14:01know the as Clauddio mentioned the use
- 1:14:02of political violence the use of uh
- 1:14:06election rigging
- 1:14:07the use of vote buying, clientalism, all
- 1:14:10of these things, you know, work to
- 1:14:13weaken these accountability mechanisms.
- 1:14:17Um, you know, even, you know, why is it
- 1:14:20that why is it that uh politicians will
- 1:14:23buy media markets or
- 1:14:27imprison uh or you know, you know,
- 1:14:30imprison uh uh journalists and not let
- 1:14:33them into their press conferences and so
- 1:14:35forth. Again, those are those are
- 1:14:37actions that politicians take to weaken
- 1:14:40what we would then call diagonal
- 1:14:42accountability. And so, you know, there,
- 1:14:44you know, there are in the model that we
- 1:14:46present, our actors are very our
- 1:14:48politicians are very limited in their
- 1:14:50actions. All they can do is provide
- 1:14:52public goods or steal and a much you
- 1:14:55know, as we know from from experience
- 1:14:58and from viewing the world, politicians
- 1:15:01can do much more. They can engage in
- 1:15:02buying. they can, you know, threaten
- 1:15:04their their their enemies. They can do a
- 1:15:07variety of different things that we see
- 1:15:09in the news almost constantly. And so
- 1:15:11that's, you know, it's it's those types
- 1:15:14of additional actions that we feel
- 1:15:16weaken this accountability mechanisms
- 1:15:18that we, you know, that we wrote in
- 1:15:20theory. Um, and so
- 1:15:26>> great.
- 1:15:29Well, uh, let's go then go back to a few
- 1:15:32of our our live attendees.
- 1:15:35Emagos, do you want to ask your question
- 1:15:38and then we'll move to Hillary. And if I
- 1:15:40could just ask that we keep the question
- 1:15:42quite brief so we can hear as many as
- 1:15:44possible.
- 1:15:54>> Okay. Thank you, professors Clauddio and
- 1:15:57Fred. Um I have a couple of questions
- 1:15:59actually and all of them are centered
- 1:16:01around the relationship between these
- 1:16:04incentives we are talking about and then
- 1:16:07accountability
- 1:16:08especially when politics itself is
- 1:16:11framed or conceptualized as as as a
- 1:16:14game. So I want you to understand if uh
- 1:16:18institutions that are supposed to
- 1:16:19enforce accountability are
- 1:16:22themselves controlled by actors that are
- 1:16:25participating in the political game.
- 1:16:27then who actually creates the incentive
- 1:16:30to be accountable and then two I would
- 1:16:33love to know if um we can actually find
- 1:16:36some ground on which we can rationalize
- 1:16:38asking politicians to behave against the
- 1:16:42um uh the very incentives that are
- 1:16:46generated by the political system when
- 1:16:48in fact or should I say perhaps now um
- 1:16:52it is the duty of institutional design
- 1:16:54to [clears throat] like change the
- 1:16:56payoff of structure to change the payoff
- 1:16:59structure for um for the game itself. So
- 1:17:02I don't know if you understand the
- 1:17:03question. So they're actually two in
- 1:17:05one. The first is the relationship
- 1:17:07between accountability and then
- 1:17:09incentive because I want to know um in
- 1:17:13developing economies we know that there
- 1:17:15are certain institutions that actually
- 1:17:17exist but those institutions are
- 1:17:19controlled by actors that are already
- 1:17:20participating in the political game. So
- 1:17:22in that instance who actually provides
- 1:17:25the incentive for these politicians to
- 1:17:27be accountable to the people. And then
- 1:17:29the second one as I said I would love to
- 1:17:31know if um we can rationalize asking
- 1:17:34politicians to behave against the
- 1:17:35incentives that are generated by the
- 1:17:37political system itself when I think it
- 1:17:40is the duty of institutional design to
- 1:17:42change the payoff structure for the
- 1:17:43game. Thank you Sam.
- 1:17:46>> Okay I I can start answering that. So,
- 1:17:49so I think those are two really good
- 1:17:52questions. Uh, on the first one,
- 1:17:58part of what a future lecture is going
- 1:18:00to bring is going to be a discussion
- 1:18:01about political selection that we have
- 1:18:04not discussed here like like who are
- 1:18:06politicians, where do they come from, uh
- 1:18:09what do they represent, how do political
- 1:18:11parties select them, like that part
- 1:18:14we're not discussing here. We're
- 1:18:15starting here saying look these are the
- 1:18:17politicians. How do we make them behave
- 1:18:20better? But then there's a question
- 1:18:22about selection, right? Like who are
- 1:18:24these people? How do political parties
- 1:18:26bring people into the political system,
- 1:18:29etc. And how people self- select? Who
- 1:18:31are the types of people that want to be
- 1:18:33a politicians in in a country? Do they
- 1:18:35want to do they have civic virtue or do
- 1:18:38they just want to to get rich for
- 1:18:40example? Right? Uh so in the future
- 1:18:43lecture, I think there's going to be
- 1:18:45some discussion of that.
- 1:18:48uh that is also related to your second
- 1:18:50question because the types of people
- 1:18:52that run for office are a response of
- 1:18:54the institutional design, right? So, so
- 1:18:57countries have institutions that will
- 1:19:00map what do you need in order to get
- 1:19:03elected? Is it a proportional
- 1:19:04representation or a majoritarian system
- 1:19:06for example? What's the role of
- 1:19:08political parties? How do political
- 1:19:10parties get funding? all those rules,
- 1:19:12they're written rules that will affect
- 1:19:15the power that parties have and the
- 1:19:18self- selection to who runs for office.
- 1:19:20So, so I think the question that you're
- 1:19:22asking about can we expect people to
- 1:19:25behave in different way if that's the
- 1:19:27incentive that the rules create, I think
- 1:19:29the answer is no. I think people are
- 1:19:30rational and they're responding exactly
- 1:19:32to the incentives that are created by
- 1:19:34the political system. And if we want to
- 1:19:38transition to reduce corruption, improve
- 1:19:42public service delivery, we need to
- 1:19:44think of what are the rules of the game
- 1:19:46that we create the right incentives for
- 1:19:48people to behave in the right way. Now
- 1:19:51that might not be enough, right? So, so
- 1:19:53maybe it's necessary, but it's not a
- 1:19:55sufficient condition because a lot
- 1:19:57[snorts] of it does come from culture. A
- 1:20:01lot of it does come from informal rules
- 1:20:05of the game, right? And and that's the
- 1:20:07distinction that Fred made in the
- 1:20:08beginning between the rules that are
- 1:20:10written down visav officially what's
- 1:20:12going on. You can have a very detailed
- 1:20:14limit on campaign financing rule in a
- 1:20:17country but 80% of the politicians get
- 1:20:20their money under the table in an
- 1:20:21illegal market and therefore is useless
- 1:20:24to have that ruled. Right? So I think
- 1:20:26those are really really important
- 1:20:28questions that I think we're just
- 1:20:30beginning to understand the answer in
- 1:20:32terms of empirical evidence.
- 1:20:35>> Thank you so much sir.
- 1:20:39>> Thank you Mr. Garass. Hillary would you
- 1:20:41like to ask your question?
- 1:20:44>> Yes. Yes. Uh my question is very clear
- 1:20:46prof I'm Hillary from Kenya Nairobi. uh
- 1:20:50we have seen uh post uh January 6th uh
- 1:20:54of the United States and now the
- 1:20:56low-inccome countries or middle inome
- 1:20:58countries like in Kenya now applying the
- 1:21:01use of informal groups and militias to
- 1:21:03try to tame their uh the public or
- 1:21:07supporter or anti-uporters uh for them
- 1:21:10is this the new emerging area for
- 1:21:12political uh experiency and how is that
- 1:21:15now working with the model that you
- 1:21:17presented earlier? Thank you.
- 1:21:26Am I clear?
- 1:21:29>> Yeah, I got that. Um, sorry, Fred.
- 1:21:34>> Go ahead, Fred, if you want.
- 1:21:37>> Sorry, he broke up on my end. Can you
- 1:21:38repeat the question?
- 1:21:42Yeah, my question is just about the use
- 1:21:45of informal groups, militias to
- 1:21:48basically bring political order against
- 1:21:51the use of formal government channels
- 1:21:53like police because of the
- 1:21:55institutionalization of certain
- 1:21:56accountability oversight mechanisms that
- 1:21:58would hold police to account. And we see
- 1:22:01this system is uh mirrors what happened
- 1:22:04in the on the 6th of January in in the
- 1:22:08United States and many other countries
- 1:22:10in in Africa. Now do you find the state
- 1:22:12is using militia to defend their
- 1:22:14position?
- 1:22:15That would be my question.
- 1:22:19>> Yeah. So that that I mean so that's been
- 1:22:22going on for quite some time, right? So
- 1:22:24even before January 6, it's you know
- 1:22:27been going on in Latin America for a
- 1:22:29long time. It it speaks to, you know,
- 1:22:32this issue of of, you know, the monopoly
- 1:22:35of violence that the state has um and
- 1:22:38whether, you know, to what extent do
- 1:22:40they do they do they control uh
- 1:22:44control the the the you know, allow for
- 1:22:47it. And so um you know how that you know
- 1:22:51how that you know speaks to
- 1:22:53accountability I I would put that more
- 1:22:55in the in the category that we've
- 1:22:57already discussed with uh which is you
- 1:23:00know the use of political violence.
- 1:23:02Political violence doesn't necessarily
- 1:23:04have to be before an election. It can
- 1:23:05also be after the election. Um and we've
- 1:23:08seen and we've seen plenty of examples
- 1:23:10of that and we highlight several
- 1:23:12examples in in the in the chapter. So um
- 1:23:16maybe I missed some other aspect of the
- 1:23:18question but uh this is you know this is
- 1:23:21this is very much a way in which the
- 1:23:24government uh uh weakens accountability
- 1:23:27in a in a very uh serious way.
- 1:23:35>> Yes. Okay. I'm okay.
- 1:23:40>> Great. Um well there are a couple
- 1:23:42questions in the chat about I think
- 1:23:45there there's a huge number of
- 1:23:47participants from subsaharan Africa and
- 1:23:49many are are saying some sort of
- 1:23:52variation of the question of uh how how
- 1:23:57do elections in subsaharan Africa
- 1:23:59actually redistribute bargaining power
- 1:24:01between citizens and policies when
- 1:24:03there's so much inequality and and do
- 1:24:07you have any suggestions on what
- 1:24:09accountability mechanisms might be most
- 1:24:11appropriate for for things like um when
- 1:24:16a political party has already started
- 1:24:18saying that they've won the election
- 1:24:19before they actually do and they all and
- 1:24:23they do um and pushing any, you know,
- 1:24:26the narrative that any outcome that's
- 1:24:29not the outcome they want is fraud. I
- 1:24:32also want to say that this happens
- 1:24:34certainly outside of this case was
- 1:24:37Nigeria or subs Africa. We're seeing it
- 1:24:39all over the place. So maybe just a
- 1:24:41chance to respond to that.
- 1:24:52I mean, I have a couple of thoughts, but
- 1:24:54if if uh I mean, look, there I mean this
- 1:24:59is this isn't based on any research
- 1:25:02evidence that we've have. Well, with the
- 1:25:03exception of one one example that I'll
- 1:25:05give, but like um you know, it's not a
- 1:25:08perfect solution, but uh independent
- 1:25:11election observers is is is critical for
- 1:25:15trying to ensure that there it's a free
- 1:25:17and fair election. We have plenty of
- 1:25:19evidence that that that can be an
- 1:25:21effective policy uh in in in making, you
- 1:25:26know, and in increasing the integrity of
- 1:25:28of an election. Um the the other issue
- 1:25:33is is which has been pointed out uh
- 1:25:37uh in the literature is that in a lot of
- 1:25:39countries in subsaharan Africa voting uh
- 1:25:42along ethnic lines is so powerful that
- 1:25:46you know that's also perhaps a root of
- 1:25:49the problem. Although there is, you
- 1:25:50know, interesting work by by Katherine
- 1:25:53Casey who's going to be a speaker uh uh
- 1:25:56you know, in a in a couple weeks who has
- 1:25:59shown that like that voters are willing
- 1:26:02to cross party lines when they're given,
- 1:26:05you know, better information about the
- 1:26:07candidates. And so she's done a lot of
- 1:26:09work trying to you know institutionalize
- 1:26:14debates within within you know within
- 1:26:17Sierra Leone and other countries uh
- 1:26:20precisely
- 1:26:21by in order to provide voters with the
- 1:26:24adequate information that they need to
- 1:26:26make certain uh decisions about about
- 1:26:28who to elect and hope and then and maybe
- 1:26:31that will break up some of the the the
- 1:26:34voting along along ethnic lines which
- 1:26:36which really dampens accountability,
- 1:26:38right? So, um it's it's easy to show
- 1:26:42theoretically and in fact there's a
- 1:26:44annual review piece that I that I wrote
- 1:26:46with with um with Ernesto Delo that if
- 1:26:51if you have strong party affiliations,
- 1:26:53whether it's through ethnicity, whether
- 1:26:54it's through religion, where you're
- 1:26:56willing to, you know, you basically are
- 1:26:58just going to vote for the person for
- 1:27:00the group member that you belong, you're
- 1:27:02going to lower the average quality of
- 1:27:04politicians in that case. And so, um,
- 1:27:07and so that's something that that will
- 1:27:09probably be discussed when when we
- 1:27:12discuss political selection in in a
- 1:27:13couple weeks.
- 1:27:23Shall we move on to the last question
- 1:27:24then?
- 1:27:26Great. Okay. Um, Rohan, do you want to
- 1:27:30ask your question?
- 1:27:34>> Hi. Um thank you so much for the
- 1:27:37lecture. Uh I have a completely
- 1:27:39non-technical question. Um so something
- 1:27:42that I found helpful in your papers is
- 1:27:44your discussion of kind of how
- 1:27:46corruption plays out in practice. So for
- 1:27:48example over invoicing or um fraudulent
- 1:27:51procurement. Um, and my question is,
- 1:27:54what kinds of resources and experiences
- 1:27:58do you use personally and do you
- 1:28:00recommend to kind of inform your
- 1:28:03practical understanding of how
- 1:28:04corruption plays out? Um, for context, I
- 1:28:07was in a political economy seminar um,
- 1:28:09where this question was asked and the
- 1:28:11presenter said, you know, go watch the
- 1:28:13mechanism um, or mechanism on Netflix.
- 1:28:16So, I'm I'm curious about your thoughts
- 1:28:18and recommendations on that. Thanks.
- 1:28:23Uh
- 1:28:25I mean so what what I'm going to answer
- 1:28:28I think is just a general uh answer not
- 1:28:31necessarily only to our work but but in
- 1:28:34general right I think the knowledge of
- 1:28:36what's going on comes from a mix between
- 1:28:40reading local news and what journalists
- 1:28:44talk about
- 1:28:46uh and also talking to people uh more on
- 1:28:50the ground both auditor s and and people
- 1:28:53in governments and things like that,
- 1:28:55right? So, so I think that's something
- 1:28:56that in general uh development
- 1:29:00economists need to do for like any type
- 1:29:01of mechanism they trying to understand
- 1:29:03on any paper uh to be honest, not not
- 1:29:06ours. I mean, in our case, Fred and I
- 1:29:08spent uh many many afternoons reading uh
- 1:29:12audit reports and then reading
- 1:29:13newspapers and then in Brazil talking to
- 1:29:17people. So, so I think it's is really a
- 1:29:19combination of all these different
- 1:29:21things that I think allows you to
- 1:29:24understand what's going on. In our case,
- 1:29:26the audit reports were really detailed.
- 1:29:28So, really helped us in order to
- 1:29:29understand what exactly were the
- 1:29:31technologies that politicians and
- 1:29:34bureaucrats were using to divert the
- 1:29:37resources, right? But in other settings,
- 1:29:40you might not have exactly that. You
- 1:29:42might need to do say focus groups with
- 1:29:44people and interview say policy makers
- 1:29:47or interview individuals and then uh try
- 1:29:50to understand that.
- 1:29:52>> Thanks a lot.
- 1:30:01>> I was on mute. Thanks so much everyone.
- 1:30:04I think we're at time now so we will
- 1:30:06have to to call it there. But big thank
- 1:30:10you to Claudio and Fred for coming back,
- 1:30:12for giving us another round. Um, and for
- 1:30:16all of you for coming and attending. I
- 1:30:17just want to flag that next week is our
- 1:30:20halfway mark. Uh, and a really exciting
- 1:30:23lecture by Adnan Khan and Asen Kuaja on
- 1:30:26bureaucracy and implementation. So,
- 1:30:28please make sure you you join for that.
- 1:30:30It should be a great one. And uh, we'll
- 1:30:33see you next week.
- 1:30:35>> Yes. Thank you very much everyone for
- 1:30:37for being here.
- 1:30:39>> Thank you very much. Have a good day.
- 1:30:42Thanks everyone.
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