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0:00Hello guys, it's the Monagra back with
0:03another video. And in this video, I will
0:07be debunking the Bowser versus Eggman
0:11death battle again since I've received
0:15criticism that they that people couldn't
0:19tell what was going on in the last
0:22version of the video. Uh this time I'll
0:24be doing things myself and things will
0:28be more
0:29reactionary. Uh like I'll show the clip
0:33and then I'll say something or something
0:36like that. And uh you know that's how
0:39it'll work.
0:41Uh, I'll be showing a ton of scans and I
0:46will be using Death Battles own logic
0:50against them and I will be showing where
0:53they lie or misinformed because people
0:59think that they're some infallible
1:02source that is never wrong and that they
1:06don't get things wrong. And I'm
1:08like, get off their meat. Get off their
1:11meat. Like, why? No. No, we're not doing
1:14that.
1:16And people need to be humbled on that.
1:20Uh, Death Battle has
1:23explicitly lied about certain scans in
1:28their
1:28episodes and this and this
1:32u battle is not the only one, but I'll
1:36be focusing on this battle in
1:38particular. And, you know, hopefully you
1:42guys enjoy this video. It's going to be
1:45pretty sweet. So stay
1:48tuned and let's begin.
1:52This battle is sponsored by Marvel Snap
1:54and Prize Pick.
2:02Bowser versus Dr. Eggman, the king of
2:05the Koopas and the baddest of bad nicks.
2:07And they're not alone. He's Whiz and I'm
2:10Boomstick. And it's our job to analyze
2:12their weapons, armor, and skills to find
2:14out who would win a death
2:18battle. Ah, the Mushroom Kingdom. A
2:21peaceful land of kindness, adventure,
2:25love. Ah, boring. Move aside, princess.
2:27It's time this place got way more
2:29awesome. Here comes King Koopa himself,
2:32better known as Bowser. The moment this
2:35orphan star child was found by Kamik, it
2:38was clear Bowser would command the
2:40desperate outcasts of the mushroom
2:42world, the Koopa clan. Sadly, not
2:45everyone's born a toad, and they treat
2:47these critters like monsters, faded to a
2:50life of infinite jump farming for
2:53one-ups. Bowser wanted a different
2:56world, but Princess Peach Toad Stool
2:58would never allow the evil king's day in
3:00the sun. Her light was so bright, Bowser
3:03became infatuated with her. So he turned
3:06all the toads into bricks and kidnapped
3:08her, putting their princess in another
3:10castle and another and another like 40
3:13years of castles, only to be released if
3:16she agrees to marry him and his dad bud.
3:19Yet he was foiled time and time again by
3:21those pesky Mario brothers. However,
3:24Bowser is nothing if not persistent.
3:26Look at him. Dude's built like a brick
3:29house strapped to a saw trap. That spike
3:32shell takes a lot of punishment. Not
3:33even the weight of a castle can scratch
3:35it. Especially when he rolls up like a
3:37prehistoric Beyblade. And the Koopa King
3:40doesn't just breathe fire and control
3:42lava. He commands nature itself.
3:44Spitting meteors from outer space,
3:46beckoning the earth with a snap,
3:48inhaling torrents of wind, straight up
3:50calling down lightning. What else has he
3:52got? Oh, just a little dabbling in dark
3:56magic. Hell yeah. Wizard turtle. Yeah.
4:00Uh this is what I mean. Uh from the last
4:04version of the death battle debunk, I
4:07had mentioned they
4:09mentioned black magic and dark magic as
4:12if it was this hyped up thing that it's
4:16powerful on its
4:18own. But they don't give
4:21substantial
4:23feats for uh how powerful it is like to
4:28add up to the hype that they're giving
4:31it. Like they it's
4:36unwarranted. Like you can't just say,
4:40"Oh, uh yeah, uh I got I got I got dark
4:43magic, bro. I got I got black magic,
4:47bro."
4:48No. Like, do like do you honestly think
4:52a random
4:54uh wizard could just use dark magic on
4:59Galactis? No. You see, they need to
5:03bring feats into the into this. And
5:07you'll see that they don't give a lot
5:10for the black magic and dark magic thing
5:14besides
5:16uh transmutation
5:17hacks, which Eggman already has hacks
5:22resistance
5:23to. Funny
5:25enough, the original NES manual even
5:28describes him as a sorcerer king. Magic
5:30is how he turned the toads into bricks,
5:32only countered by the princess's heart
5:34magic. Yeah. Uh, they're making a
5:38general statement, a very general
5:42statement about Bowser's dark
5:46magic without backing it up, like with
5:50actual proof. Like, what is it resistant
5:54to? What has it
5:57overwritten? What magic hasn't worked on
6:00it? What magic hasn't countered it? What
6:04magic does Bowser's own magic
6:07counter? See, these are things
6:10that that should be factored before you
6:13say something like that
6:15because then it comes off as misleading
6:19or wank. You get
6:22it? Anyway, let's continue.
6:26But that's not all the magic he's
6:27mastered. Telekinesis creating perfect
6:30clones. Yeah, I'm going to have to ask
6:33where's the statement that they are
6:35perfect clones? Like, do they have all
6:38the same abilities? Is there this uh
6:40this statement where it said that their
6:45powers are are not unlike the original
6:48or it's the same as the original and all
6:51of that because you know when when you
6:54just say that like you're being
6:57disingenuous because you don't have the
7:00proof to back it up and you're just
7:04making claims for the heck of it, you
7:06know.
7:08Anyway, that's all I wanted to say.
7:11Reanimating his undead skeleton.
7:15I'm just going to
7:17ask and anyone could go into the
7:21comments about
7:23this. Uh, where is it stated that he
7:27revived his dead skeleton? Like where's
7:32the proof that
7:35uh skeleton Bowser or Dry
7:40Bowser is dead because the funny thing
7:45about that is that there is a Mario game
7:50where it's revealed Dry
7:53Bowser is a like the dry Koopas are
7:59actually a species.
8:02And dry
8:04Bowser is
8:06literally a close family
8:10friend of
8:12Bowser's
8:14family. I'm serious.
8:18Look. So, I'm going to need some really
8:22good proof, you know, some really good
8:24some really good good good proof because
8:27uh this isn't working. This is not
8:30working.
8:32Also, I do want to
8:35uh mention that if Dry Bowser is
8:41truly a damaged or dead
8:45Bowser, then the anti
8:49feats, the
8:52anti-callet that would arise from
8:56that would be
8:59very bad for this
9:02matchup. For
9:05example, when Dry Bowser appears in some
9:09Mario games after Bowser is
9:12defeated, he hops out of lava. Now, if
9:15we assume that dry Bowser and Bowser are
9:18the same
9:19being,
9:21then that means that
9:25Bowser Bowser's body, it can't even
9:28handle
9:30lava. It can't even handle lava.
9:35Like there's there's nothing special
9:39about the lava or any statements about
9:42it that would make it substantial. Like
9:46yeah, it's a natural in the sense that
9:50some parts of it are sentient. Like
9:52there are lava people in
9:54it. Uh, but there's nothing crazy that
10:00excuses the anti feats and anti-caling
10:02that comes from
10:04that. Like that
10:07is that is really bad for Bowser when he
10:12goes up against someone like Eggman
10:14because Eggman has better stuff. He has
10:18better stuff to use than freaking Wava.
10:21[Music]
10:23Like, and this is what I mean. You see,
10:26Death Battle mentions a bunch of things,
10:30but then when you go into it
10:33closely, you
10:35realize like very
10:38quickly how their arguments would
10:42actually lead to the ones they said
10:45would
10:46win would lose very badly.
10:51Oh my
10:55god. Okay,
10:57so some people might not get the gist of
11:00why I'm saying, but in the Mario games,
11:04like there's usually a bunch of anti
11:06feeds for Bowser that occurs, and people
11:09don't really take this into account when
11:12power scaling because they're either
11:14biased, they don't know, or they're
11:17straight up ignorant. So, I'm going to
11:20post the evolution of Bowser
11:24uh battles throughout the Mario games,
11:27and I'm also going to post the dry
11:31Bowser battles because most of them
11:35involve pit defeats, like falling to a
11:38pit. And there's
11:41also lava defeats. Like he just falls
11:45into the lava after being dropped in
11:47there. That's the end of
11:49it. And there's even like signals that
11:54he kind of died or was defeated because
11:58there's this skull. There's this smoke
12:01skull that appears that confirms he was,
12:04you know, dealt with.
12:07And keep in
12:09mind, like some of the deaths or defeats
12:13or whatever the heck, it's to the same
12:17crap that that took him down before.
12:22Legitimately, I I kid you not, some of
12:26those deaths are the same things he
12:30normally is taken down by.
12:33So, it's not like Berserker from uh Fate
12:37Stay Night where he gets defeated by one
12:40thing but is more or less immune to it
12:43the next time or anything like that. No,
12:46it's not like Doomsday who dies and
12:49comes back and is heavily resilient
12:52against
12:53it. It's not like that. It's it's
12:57just it's just it's just a rinse and
13:02repeat kind of deal. That has to be one
13:04of the most useless
13:07uh powers I've seen from a magic user.
13:11Uh if someone can revive you, they do,
13:15but you don't gain any resistance
13:18towards the things that beat you before.
13:21That's basically how it is.
13:27Yeah, let me just Yeah, let me just post
13:32it. And
13:34uh you don't have to watch this long
13:37segment. You could skip it, but just
13:40know that a lot of these clips involve
13:45uh
13:47Bowser like being defeated due to
13:50pitfalls and lava. I am not kidding. I
13:55am not
13:57kidding. I wish I was, but I'm not.
14:03[Music]
14:17[Music]
14:44[Music]
15:10[Music]
15:30Where did we go?
15:57Hey,
16:19[Music]
16:46[Music]
17:23[Music]
17:27What? Up.
17:31[Music]
17:40Let's go.
17:44[Music]
18:03[Music]
18:11[Music]
18:23Power Sure is. Papa, come on
18:26[Music]
18:28in. You don't ever give up. I'll do my
18:53[Music]
19:04Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
19:10whoa. Mario, was
19:13I Mario? Look,
19:18[Music]
19:27Junior, I've got
19:30something
19:32not I want to fight that
19:43Marioation starts
19:45[Music]
19:51[Music]
20:09[Music]
20:11Punch. Pipe.
20:14Let's go.
20:18[Music]
20:52[Music]
21:09Oh.
21:10[Music]
21:15Thank you
21:20for listen.
21:28[Music]
21:44[Music]
21:49Oh, here I
21:53am. Here I am.
22:04[Music]
22:20[Music]
22:33[Music]
22:44Get off.
22:54[Music]
23:01[Music]
23:09Woohoo!
23:12[Music]
23:24Fire! Stop!
23:30Help
23:39me out.
23:47[Music]
24:03[Music]
24:16here. He's
24:19[Music]
24:28[Music]
24:46No. Oh.
24:52Wake up.
25:04[Music]
25:12[Music]
25:21[Music]
25:37Go. Oh god.
26:00Yahoo!
26:03[Music]
26:23Uh-oh.
26:25Oh.
26:29[Music]
26:37Mario.
26:55[Music]
27:13[Music]
27:20That's my goal.
27:28[Music]
27:36Got
27:39[Music]
27:49it. No.
27:58[Music]
28:10Thank you.
28:12[Music]
28:29[Music]
28:35[Music]
28:50Yes.
28:52Break
28:56[Music]
29:06[Music]
29:14[Music]
29:18it. Woohoo.
29:20[Music]
29:29Huh?
29:31My
29:37[Music]
29:46What the heck?
30:25[Music]
30:40Hey,
30:56[Music]
31:03no. I
31:05[Music]
31:26got fish.
31:32Fish.
31:55[Music]
32:17[Music]
32:23Yahoo! Get it!
32:40Wow.
32:50Move.
32:58Smile up.
33:02[Music]
33:16[Music]
33:49[Music]
33:57Thank
33:57[Music]
34:08you. You're welcome.
34:21[Music]
34:35Go. Oh my god.
34:52[Music]
35:05round.
35:09[Music]
35:25Awesome. Down.
35:32Doctor,
35:35[Music]
35:45[Music]
36:03[Music]
36:06Yahoo! Yahoo!
36:13[Music]
36:26[Music]
36:41I don't run.
36:45[Music]
37:11Get out of here.
37:16[Music]
37:26[Music]
37:29What do
37:42[Music]
37:44you think?
38:12What?
38:37Hey, I
38:40am
39:00Head shot.
39:32Change Sophia.
39:49[Music]
39:57Please start.
40:01[Music]
40:30about the killer.
40:38[Music]
40:45Let's go.
40:58[Music]
41:07Woohoo! Yeah!
41:12[Music]
41:27[Music]
41:59[Music]
42:35Look at the beach.
42:42[Music]
43:01[Music]
43:18[Applause]
43:28[Applause]
43:31Yahoo! Son of
43:33[Applause]
43:49[Applause]
43:59River.
44:31[Applause]
44:33Look at
44:59There you are.
45:14What are you doing?
45:23[Music]
45:36[Music]
45:46[Music]
45:57I told
46:00And here's the dry Bowser battles as
46:03well.
46:36[Music]
46:43Huh? Woohoo.
47:04I'm ready.
47:39Woohoo! Yeah.
47:43[Music]
48:11Hello.
48:17[Music]
48:32[Music]
48:46in the car. Woohoo.
49:00[Music]
49:03[Applause]
49:08[Music]
49:13push push.
49:30Hey, dash.
50:09Stop. Heat.
50:20[Music]
50:32Yahoo! Start.
50:39[Music]
51:02[Music]
51:07Hey, hey,
51:12Finish. Woohoo!
51:16[Music]
51:42[Music]
52:00Where are you?
52:04[Music]
52:26out. Come
52:29here. Heat. Heat.
52:39[Music]
52:46[Music]
53:08[Music]
53:33[Music]
53:46Wonderful. All
53:57[Music]
54:14right. What is it?
54:26Don't break.
54:31[Music]
54:55I'm coming.
55:01[Music]
55:13No way.
55:39[Music]
55:50[Music]
56:09[Applause]
56:14Yeah, at this point like you have to get
56:18what I'm trying to say here or the point
56:21I'm trying to make.
56:23uh Bowser and Dry Bowser being the same
56:29person,
56:31which is likely true to a certain extent
56:36has major
56:39implications. That would be an
56:42anti-cale for Bowser in this entire
56:45fight because it is consistently shown
56:50that Bowser
56:53turns into dry
56:57Bowser
56:59from
57:01pitfalls and lava.
57:08Now to put it into
57:13perspective, the
57:16multi-versal
57:18universal scaling for Bowser is in like
57:22very few games. Very few. It would be
57:28what power scalers like to refer
57:31to as outliers.
57:36outliers. And since Mario has no
57:41narrative for its power
57:45scaling, like it doesn't, it literally
57:49does
57:51not.
57:53Those higher scaling metas or
57:58arguments, they can be thrown right out
58:02the window.
58:04So if you
58:06use Bowser and dry Bowser being the same
58:11guy, you would be
58:16severely handicapping Bowser here.
58:21It means he can easily be defeated by
58:25Eggman who
58:27has higher
58:30accolades, higher scaling, higher
58:33statements, higher
58:35feats than Bowser.
58:39Multi-star busting
58:43statements. Universe destroying
58:46statements.
58:48Multiverse destroying statements. This
58:52is what Bowser is going up against as he
58:57dies to lava.
59:07[Music]
59:24[Music]
59:36[Music]
59:45Woohoo! Hey!
59:52[Music]
1:00:02[Music]
1:00:33[Music]
1:00:35Stop coming.
1:00:37[Music]
1:01:15[Music]
1:01:23Good. I'm scared.
1:01:50[Music]
1:02:14[Music]
1:02:20I want
1:02:32Mario. Yes.
1:02:45[Music]
1:02:57Huh?
1:02:59Huh?
1:03:02Huh?
1:03:06[Music]
1:03:11Huh?
1:03:15[Music]
1:03:22[Music]
1:03:36[Music]
1:03:39Another attack. Woohoo.
1:03:50[Music]
1:04:05This is consistent. This is literally
1:04:09consistent.
1:04:10[Music]
1:04:12So, don't know what to tell
1:04:15you. Even if you
1:04:17argued that
1:04:20Eggman was just star
1:04:24level, that is far hotter than Lava. It
1:04:30would take Bowser out. And then when he
1:04:32turns into dry Bowser, he could just do
1:04:34it
1:04:35again. And that's the end of the
1:04:37matchup.
1:04:39This is something that Death Battle
1:04:41blatantly ignores and it shows their
1:04:45level of bias
1:04:47and will
1:04:50to misrepresent a character to put the
1:04:55other character over. They did this with
1:04:58Flash versus Archie songs, by the way,
1:05:00where he said, "Oh, well, he's gotten
1:05:02knocked out by far less." but then
1:05:05ignores when Flash gets knocked out by
1:05:08paper and all that stuff. It's
1:05:11crazy. But Death Battle fans will still
1:05:14worship Death Battle like their word of
1:05:17God. It's
1:05:18crazy. Okay, let's uh continue.
1:05:23And worst of all, ruining every game of
1:05:26Mario Party. Hey, hey, no, no, no. I
1:05:29stole those coins. Fair and square.
1:05:31Bowser spent decades hoarding treasures.
1:05:33coins, magic star rods, warships, clown
1:05:35cars, you name it. Yeah. Uh there is no
1:05:40uh statement that Miiamoto makes where
1:05:45he says that Paper Mario is Canada. He
1:05:48never says that you could go out there
1:05:51and try to find insider things and
1:05:54interviews and lost media videos. You
1:05:58will never find it because he never says
1:06:00that. That's that's just the truth. If
1:06:03somebody says Miiamoto said that Pap
1:06:06Mario's cannon, they are lying to you.
1:06:08He never said that. What they are most
1:06:11likely referring to is
1:06:14the is the video clip where someone asks
1:06:20uh if all the Marios are the same. But
1:06:26this is blatantly contradicted by Paper
1:06:31Jam. This isn't to say that Mario can't
1:06:35be Paper Mario, but to say that Miiamoto
1:06:38explicitly said that Mario is Paper
1:06:42Mario is pure
1:06:44disingenuousness. That's That's
1:06:47it. This is the same guy that created
1:06:50multiple flying castles fashioned after
1:06:52his own face. Yeah, he's definitely got
1:06:54an ego on him. He's talked about having
1:06:56a fourdigit IQ, but I've seen this
1:06:59put death traps in his own backyard. A
1:07:01man after my own heart. Dude, they
1:07:04literally just showed the anti
1:07:07feed. Okay, let's just continue. Despite
1:07:11his clumsiness, Bowser's charisma and
1:07:13leadership brought many to his side. Not
1:07:15enough to defeat Mario, but his army
1:07:17doesn't make it easy on the Red Plumber.
1:07:19They're the most wicked band of misfits
1:07:21this side of world 8-4. The Koopa Troop.
1:07:25An army spanning multiple territories
1:07:27across the mushroom world and beyond.
1:07:30Goombas, Koopas, the troopas, and the
1:07:32others make up the infantry. Some with
1:07:34wings, some in shoes, and some even in
1:07:37race cars. They're the red shirts. Burst
1:07:39in and burst out. Piranha plants
1:07:42bloopers and lacatos use their
1:07:43surroundings to get the jump on
1:07:45unsuspecting prey by land, sea, or sky.
1:07:47We'd be here forever jotting down the
1:07:49small fries, booze, shy guys, sentient
1:07:52bombs with feet, and more. It was
1:07:54imperative for Bowser to nurture a unit
1:07:55that covers their own vulnerabilities.
1:07:57For example, Kamik and King Buu both
1:07:59have magic, but Boo has battlefield
1:08:01control with illusions and destabilizing
1:08:03dimensions, while Kamk focuses on
1:08:05buffing allies, canceling enemy powers,
1:08:07summoning anything he desires, or
1:08:09swapping my items to screw up my Mario
1:08:11Party lead. Not again. Speaking of
1:08:14items, most of the minions can use
1:08:15pretty much any power up Mario can. The
1:08:17glmbbas make frequent use of tanuki
1:08:19tales, and Bowser can really get into
1:08:21the cat roleplay. But as the Koopa troop
1:08:24grew and grew, it started to feel less
1:08:26like an army and more like a family
1:08:29unit. Oh, you mean like his kids, the
1:08:31Koopalings? Yeah, they're adopted.
1:08:33What's the difference? Good point.
1:08:34Bowser took them in and even trained
1:08:36them in dark magic. Though no one's as
1:08:39spoiled as his natural Nepo baby, Bowser
1:08:42Jr., Captain of the Koopa Troops.
1:08:44Spoiled is an understatement. Remember
1:08:46his escapades as Shadow Mario? He
1:08:48terrorized Delfino Plaza with literal
1:08:50evil paint. That whole debacle was
1:08:53basically his attempt at elementary
1:08:54school art class. And I bet Bowser still
1:08:57has some on the fridge. But really, the
1:08:59king is very protective of his kids. If
1:09:01the fam's in trouble, he can will
1:09:03himself to transform into a giant kaiju.
1:09:06All to crush whatever fooly's tug is
1:09:08smack. You mean the
1:09:11same kaiju Bowser that can be defeated
1:09:15by lava and pitfalls? That same
1:09:21one. Yeah, that's not that's not very
1:09:24impressive. Uh, let's just continue.
1:09:27Maybe a little overkill. Just one punch
1:09:30from Giant Bowser launched a castle out
1:09:32of orbit. Taking into account the flight
1:09:34path and the scale of their universe,
1:09:36Bowser's punch must have hit with a
1:09:38force of over 125 trillion tons of TNT.
1:09:42Well, first of all, uh that's a AP feat,
1:09:47not a speed
1:09:49feat. You can launch something faster
1:09:52than you can run. You know that, right?
1:09:55Next, uh the
1:09:59blackbox. H how should I explain this?
1:10:03It's vague. It's very vague. They say
1:10:09lassoing celestial objects, but
1:10:12celestial objects like what? Stars,
1:10:15black
1:10:17holes, cosmic dust, uh planets,
1:10:24galaxies, like what what are they
1:10:26talking about here?
1:10:28And the ice flower thing is way out of
1:10:35context. Uh, allow me to explain. Uh, so
1:10:39here's this scan from the Mario and
1:10:42Luigi games that says the ice flower can
1:10:45freeze the sun. I'll show it here.
1:10:49[Music]
1:10:53Now, the problem is they're not
1:10:56referring to the actual
1:10:58sun. They're
1:11:00referring to the enemy, the sun. Like
1:11:06this. You would know this if you played
1:11:09the Mario games. They would have known
1:11:11this if they did that. See? See that?
1:11:16And uh for you guys to see what I'm
1:11:19seeing, uh I'm just going to post clips
1:11:23of the sun in uh the Mario games.
1:11:29[Music]
1:11:37[Laughter]
1:11:43[Music]
1:11:46Huh? Huh?
1:11:53[Music]
1:12:07[Music]
1:12:21[Music]
1:12:33[Music]
1:12:39[Laughter]
1:12:44[Music]
1:13:04rebuild. He
1:13:12[Music]
1:13:33Grenade.
1:13:36[Music]
1:13:51Heat. Heat.
1:13:56[Music]
1:14:04[Music]
1:14:17Hey, hey, hey.
1:14:25[Music]
1:14:33H
1:14:38[Music]
1:14:42hey. Hey.
1:14:57[Laughter]
1:15:05[Music]
1:15:15And this is very embarrassing. ing.
1:15:19Uh, it's crazy that Death Battle
1:15:22couldn't put the context into what they
1:15:25were putting
1:15:27down and they just ended up misinforming
1:15:30a bunch of people.
1:15:32Uh, and as for the black hole part, I
1:15:36have nothing. Uh, the feat seems
1:15:38legitimate enough, so I can't really say
1:15:41anything on that. Anyway, let's
1:15:43continue. Considering how Yoshi punted
1:15:46poor Raphael the Raven so hard he
1:15:48exploded into a constellation of stars.
1:15:51Guys, are you actually eating this up?
1:15:55This is a blatant lie. All Yoshi did was
1:15:59set up flying Team Rocket style.
1:16:03They would literally be arguing that Ash
1:16:08and
1:16:09Pikachu are star level because they send
1:16:16Team Rocket into the sky and you see a
1:16:19little star
1:16:21sparkle like like that's what they're
1:16:25arguing and it's like how do you guys
1:16:28fall for this
1:16:29stuff? Do your own research. you'll see
1:16:32that they're
1:16:33lying. My
1:16:36god. And I'm not saying that
1:16:40Pikachu isn't star level. I'm saying
1:16:44that for that reason they're that's not
1:16:47the
1:16:49case. Anyway, let's continue.
1:16:52This isn't even close to Bowser's full
1:16:55strength. So, don't bully his kid,
1:16:57especially if he falls into some of
1:16:59Bowser Junior's set of black paint. That
1:17:01stuff's scary. Enough to unleash
1:17:03Bowser's Dark Fury. A form whose very
1:17:06steps caused widespread natural
1:17:08disasters. Okay, seriously, how does
1:17:10Mario ever beat this guy? He's like
1:17:12Godzilla, Dr. Strange, and John Cena all
1:17:15in one big turtle. Nah, don't disrespect
1:17:18Doctor Strange like that. Doctor Strange
1:17:22has far better feets, far better scaling
1:17:24than
1:17:25Bowser. Anyway, continue.
1:17:28Oh, we're not even to the best part.
1:17:30Bowser's dark magic became so potent, he
1:17:33eventually learned how to warp the very
1:17:35fabric of reality. Anything the king
1:17:37imagines, he makes happen. He turned all
1:17:40of Yoshi's island into a story book. And
1:17:42remember those painted worlds in Mario
1:17:4464? Yeah, he made those. And the
1:17:47staircase that goes on and on and on and
1:17:49on and on and on and oh god, does anyone
1:17:51know how to BLJ? He also stole ultra
1:17:53powerful items like the Wonderflower,
1:17:55which can mold reality like Play-Doh,
1:17:57and the dream stone, which can be used
1:17:59to wish someone out of existence. But
1:18:01his most iconic thefts are those big
1:18:03shiny power stars. Don't judge a book by
1:18:06its cover. Infant power stars, aka
1:18:08lumas, can become whole galaxies. They
1:18:11also fied Mario across the universe in 3
1:18:13seconds. That's 489 quadrillion times
1:18:17light speed. Obviously, the big daddy
1:18:19grand stars are even crazier. Bowser
1:18:22used one to power his space kingdom, but
1:18:24then guess who showed up to ruin
1:18:26everything. It's a him. And when the
1:18:28grand star was freed, it caused a chain
1:18:31reaction that destroyed the entire
1:18:33universe via a massive black hole. Big
1:18:36space god that Roselina showed up to
1:18:38save the day. Not that Bowser needed
1:18:40saving. He's been swallowed by another
1:18:41black hole and thrown into a star that
1:18:43went supernova.
1:18:45Okay, I'm going to keep this 100%.
1:18:52The leaps in logic are insane here.
1:18:56First of
1:18:58all, they said that
1:19:02Bowser didn't need saving from a
1:19:06universe
1:19:09collapsing because he survived being
1:19:13sucked into a black hole and a star
1:19:16going supernova.
1:19:23Okay, you could just tell that someone
1:19:27biased wrote that and told them to say
1:19:31that or they were biased
1:19:35themselves and chose to say
1:19:38that the destruction of a star or the
1:19:43pole of a black hole is nothing compared
1:19:49to the energy of an entire
1:19:53universe.
1:19:54That's crazy to even suggest that they
1:19:59are even remotely comparable and that
1:20:02those small things would be the reason
1:20:06why Bowser wouldn't need saving. And
1:20:11keep this in mind, right?
1:20:14In the guides, it is blatantly stated
1:20:19that Bowser was saved from a terrible
1:20:26fate. This implies he would have died.
1:20:30Okay, it implies he would have died. Got
1:20:34deleted. End of story. That's
1:20:38it. Oh my god. No.
1:20:42I don't know how you guys can eat this
1:20:44stuff up from death battle. This is
1:20:45blatant misinformation.
1:20:48Imagine if this crazy OP fire turtle had
1:20:51to fight himself. Oh, wait. He did. And
1:20:54he beat the hell out of
1:20:57him. They explicitly
1:21:00state the clone was no match for the
1:21:04original
1:21:06Bowser. Like they explicitly state this.
1:21:11I the Why? Why are you lying? Why are
1:21:14you guys
1:21:15lying? Why are you guys
1:21:18lying? They You see, they do this to put
1:21:21the one they want to win
1:21:24over and put the one they want to lose
1:21:27under. It's
1:21:29crazy. And they have misinformed people
1:21:34about materials regarding characters
1:21:37before. They did it in Gan Gray versus
1:21:40Raven
1:21:42uh where they said that oh uh Phoenix
1:21:46couldn't restore souls when there's
1:21:48comics where the Phoenix can do
1:21:51that. Uh they said that Snow was on
1:21:56Sonic in the Archie
1:21:59comics where he stopped the flaunting
1:22:02dial.
1:22:03Um, that was moon dust
1:22:07or smoke. That wasn't snow. You can
1:22:11clearly tell by the way it's
1:22:13drawn.
1:22:15Anyway, the point is, stop worshiping
1:22:19death battle and do your own research.
1:22:23You'll find a lot of the things they say
1:22:25are wrong.
1:22:29And you know, you'll you'll be more well
1:22:33equipped to talk about these kind of
1:22:35things cuz this is just this is just
1:22:40sad. They do all of this to hype up
1:22:44Bowser. But when you look into the
1:22:47context, it's not impressive at all.
1:22:52With all this power, it's a wonder he
1:22:54still hasn't conquered the Mushroom
1:22:55Kingdom. Yeah, Kullex is not
1:22:59extradimensional. He's
1:23:01twodimensional. In fact, he's an
1:23:05anti-cale to Mario. His existence would
1:23:09suggest Mario doesn't follow dimensional
1:23:11Tyrion at all. Keep that in mind.
1:23:15Perhaps it's because his visions of
1:23:17grandeur were never really what he saw.
1:23:20Surrounding him is a crew of outcasts
1:23:22and miscreants like him. Riyer dies that
1:23:25can't be swayed against him. Oh, are you
1:23:27saying he's secretly happy? Cuz he's got
1:23:29a big monster family now. Yes, but also
1:23:32when they actually work together,
1:23:34they've legitimately conquered most of
1:23:36the known universe. So, he's a baddie
1:23:39through and through, who will teleport
1:23:41through space and time to show you
1:23:43what's what, because he's no ordinary
1:23:45Koopa. Make way for the king.
1:23:52Now we get to the Eggman part. This
1:23:55should be fun.
1:23:58Citizens of Earth, lend me your ears.
1:24:02Yeah. Uh, I need you guys to to lend
1:24:06your ears to me.
1:24:08Uh, they're already going ahead and
1:24:10dismissing a lot of the materials that
1:24:13could be used for
1:24:15Sonic, including the crossovers, even
1:24:19though they're canon. For example, the
1:24:22Sonic and Mega Man crossover, which had
1:24:24the
1:24:25infamous Super Genesis wave feat. It's
1:24:30canon. Ian Flynn even said that it was
1:24:34the
1:24:36intention that Worlds
1:24:39Collide is the game universe. Let me
1:24:43show it here.
1:24:45Here's a question from T Ranger. In
1:24:48Worlds Collide, what kind of world is
1:24:49Sonic's? He mentions the Egg Viper, so
1:24:51it is more like the games, but if so,
1:24:54how did the Freedom Fighters fit into
1:24:55this altered world that was used for the
1:24:57crossover? Considering we saw that
1:24:59sniffly still exist and Sonic had to
1:25:01have known about some history with him
1:25:03and the Freedom Fighters in order to
1:25:04attempt to restore the old world. I just
1:25:06like to know what kind of history this
1:25:07world had and if characters like Ma and
1:25:09multiple Akidna characters like Lee and
1:25:11Da still existed or not. Ah, it's been
1:25:14so long now, but I'm pretty sure the
1:25:16intention with Worlds Collide was that
1:25:19it was just the game universe. Um, and I
1:25:23think, again, it's been a while, but I
1:25:25think that Snively cameo was not
1:25:28intended.
1:25:30I could be wrong. It It's been a bit at
1:25:32the very least it was meant to be kind
1:25:35of the foundational knowledge of what
1:25:38the new continuity would be going in,
1:25:40but not 100% because we still were
1:25:43working on that while World's Collide
1:25:45was still going on. Basically, Worlds
1:25:47Collide was meant to be just a pure
1:25:49Sonic Mega Man crossover. None of the
1:25:53extraneous stuff, none of the extra
1:25:56media material.
1:25:58Now, even if you said
1:26:02that Worlds Collide wasn't canon,
1:26:07right? Ian Flynn does
1:26:11say that Game Sonic could do what Archie
1:26:15Sonic did with the Super Genesis wave.
1:26:19I I don't know. Oh well, I will at least
1:26:23live long enough to ask this question.
1:26:25Well, to read it at least. This one is
1:26:28from Avatar of Chaos. Can game
1:26:31Supersonic do what Archie Sonic did
1:26:33against the Super Genesis wave? Assuming
1:26:35he was in the same world and situation,
1:26:37obviously the Chaos Emeralds of both
1:26:39worlds have similar mechanisms. The
1:26:41dreams, concepts, and the thoughts into
1:26:43reality thing. So, I'd say it's
1:26:45possible. Yeah. My intention with that
1:26:49incarnation of Sonic was basically he
1:26:50was game Sonic. Yeah. That was like just
1:26:53that was going into the reboot, right?
1:26:55Yeah. So, yeah, makes sense to me. And
1:27:01Ian Flynn has stated in the Bumble King
1:27:05forums when it was out, uh, you could
1:27:08check through the Wayback Machine, that
1:27:11uh, game Sonic and Archery Sonic's
1:27:14battle would end in a
1:27:16stalemate. And this was around the era
1:27:20of Sonic Generations and Sonic Lost
1:27:22World.
1:27:24So
1:27:27yeah, you could pretty much apply any
1:27:30scaling you have of Archer Sonic to Game
1:27:33Sonic. Let me uh show it.
1:27:39[Music]
1:27:47[Music]
1:27:57[Music]
1:28:11Down. Okay.
1:28:28Like everyone knows why Death Battle did
1:28:31that or tried to pull that. It's to to
1:28:34make the battle not a
1:28:37mismatch, but it's it'll still end up a
1:28:40mismatch as you'll see throughout this
1:28:43video.
1:28:45And I explain
1:28:46why. All right, let's go. Imagine a
1:28:49world of endless possibility where
1:28:51people are free as the wind. Isn't it
1:28:55disgusting? Now imagine a better world.
1:28:58One with proper guidance and the
1:29:00technology to bring about global peace.
1:29:02But whiz, only a brilliant mind can make
1:29:05that happen. Not just any brilliant
1:29:07mind. He's a genius at heart who knows
1:29:10the dangers within. He's Ivo Robotnik.
1:29:13Dr. Eggman. As a mad scientist myself,
1:29:16his story is my inspiration, just as
1:29:18Eggman's was his grandfather, Gerald
1:29:20Robotnik, who sought to create world
1:29:22peace through technology. But then his
1:29:25beloved granddaughter, Maria, was killed
1:29:28by the Guardian Unit of Nations, better
1:29:30known as gun. They're freaking called
1:29:33Gun. Anyway, little Aggy grew up a
1:29:36lonely narcissist because all his family
1:29:38talked about was Maria this, Maria that.
1:29:42Woohoo! Neglect and envy tainted Ivo's
1:29:45goals of following Gerald's footsteps.
1:29:47He distanced himself from his
1:29:48grandfather's legacy. Instead of
1:29:50bettering the world, he would conquer it
1:29:52to get the attention he deserve. No, you
1:29:54mean craved. Desperately craved a
1:29:57tomato. Tomato, you just said it the
1:29:59same way twice. He aimed to establish
1:30:01Eggman Land, a capital of science. And
1:30:04this paradise would have worked just
1:30:06fine if not for that blasted Sonic the
1:30:07Hedgehog. For years, Eggman's plans
1:30:10literally blew up in his face, and he's
1:30:13a very sore loser. But just like any
1:30:15good experiment, the doctor did more
1:30:17testing, seeking better results. He's
1:30:19created plenty of knickknacks to
1:30:20terrorize the world with. A laser gun, a
1:30:23cloning ray, mind control cannons, a
1:30:25flying armada, typical evil scientist
1:30:27stuff. Then there's the big ones. He
1:30:29invented a spatial displacement trap,
1:30:31which while online scatters a target's
1:30:34atoms across space. Oh, and then there's
1:30:36the metal virus, which transmutes
1:30:38organic tissue into living metal
1:30:40zombies. It's so deadly it created a
1:30:43plague that nearly wiped out all life on
1:30:45Earth. J Eggman never made himself
1:30:48immune to it. That's a whoopsie. And
1:30:49when he's not duping you with decoys,
1:30:51he's riding in style with the eggmobile.
1:30:54It's lightweight for maneuverability,
1:30:55but tough enough to withstand moon-sized
1:30:57explosions and even the center of a
1:31:00black hole. Yeah. So, I do want to
1:31:03mention that the black hole in colors is
1:31:07not a normal black hole. Uh, Eggman does
1:31:11imply that
1:31:13the wisps energy, the hyper goan is
1:31:18superior to the Chaos
1:31:21Emeralds, at least at the time of Sonic
1:31:23Colors.
1:31:25Your little party with other people's
1:31:27planets is over.
1:31:40That's not But they're even more
1:31:42powerful than the Chaos Emeralds. No.
1:32:10[Music]
1:32:22Please, please.
1:32:26[Music]
1:32:53Laser this should Just a fraction of the
1:32:55neg power. Maybe the nega wisps don't
1:32:59like you either, Eggman. Looks like I
1:33:01win this round.
1:33:15You laser.
1:33:18[Music]
1:33:37You you
1:33:39you horrid little
1:33:42hedgehog. Unlimited color. Sorry,
1:33:45Eggman. It looks like the wisps have
1:33:47sided with me on this one.
1:33:50Final color blaster.
1:33:53But that's my mega whisp was to be
1:33:55perfect.
1:34:08[Music]
1:34:29So, I don't know why they're treating
1:34:31that as if it's a normal black hole. In
1:34:35fact, that would just be a compliment to
1:34:39Sonic's durability for being able to
1:34:42survive
1:34:43that when it generates power comparable
1:34:47to the Chaos Emeralds. And speaking of
1:34:51which, Death Battle is going to say
1:34:54something pretty important that's
1:34:56relevant to this near the end of the uh
1:35:01death battle, like after
1:35:05Bowser quote unquote wins.
1:35:09Uh, so do pay attention because they're
1:35:12going to mention the power of the stars
1:35:14and the other things including the
1:35:16Phantom Ruby, but they're not going to
1:35:18mention how powerful they are and their
1:35:22scaling and things like that, which
1:35:25could have easily changed the course of
1:35:28the battle. Like, it could have changed
1:35:30the outcome very
1:35:33easily. Okay, let's continue. I mean,
1:35:37it's kind of lamel looking, but he can
1:35:39plug it into big bad mechs like the egg
1:35:41walker or the death egg robot whose
1:35:44giant laser once obliterated 77,000
1:35:47cubic meters of rock in an instant.
1:35:49That's like having an atomic bomb in
1:35:50your pocket all the time. Oh, okay.
1:35:53Maybe this guy's pretty cool. Eggman
1:35:54built machines for a long list of combat
1:35:57situations. Some look like knights.
1:35:59Others use extraterrestrial sources like
1:36:01the
1:36:01Wisps. Again, again, they don't talk
1:36:05about how powerful they are. This is a
1:36:09problem with with what I showed before,
1:36:14like the video clip of the Neg armor,
1:36:17that could reveal information pretty
1:36:21important to their verdict, you know?
1:36:23But no, no, they just they just leave
1:36:25it. They just they just say, "Oh, it's
1:36:28an extraterrestrial source, man. It's an
1:36:30extraterrestrial source.
1:36:32Frankly, it's pretty lazy.
1:36:35And then there's the orbital bases like
1:36:38the Death Egg. The reference is obvious,
1:36:40but Darth Vader's version is like a toy
1:36:42compared to the Death Egg, which can
1:36:44annihilate stars. Boom. A whole
1:36:47constellation gone in one shot. Now,
1:36:50remember, they showed this and then
1:36:54showed Bowser falling into lava and
1:36:58being
1:36:59defeated like this. this kind of stuff.
1:37:02It's this kind of stuff that they show
1:37:05and then have the other character
1:37:07winning that that just gets people riled
1:37:10up and for the right reasons.
1:37:13That's not to say Eggman doesn't enjoy
1:37:15scrapping with blue hedgehogs himself.
1:37:17Enter the egg dragoon. Yeah. Uh I do
1:37:22want to talk about this because
1:37:25people sleep on the egg dragoon. They
1:37:28think that for some reason Sonic doesn't
1:37:31experience power progression. I've
1:37:34talked about this in the uh
1:37:37Infinite the Jackal underrated
1:37:40powerhouse video.
1:37:42Uh, basically there's a statement in the
1:37:46game of Sonic Unleashed that the Egg
1:37:51Dragoon is the product of Eggman putting
1:37:55years of research into finding ways to
1:37:59defeat
1:38:00Sonic and that the Egg Dragoon is the
1:38:04pinnacle of Eggman's mad science.
1:38:08So at that point, Egg Dragoon would
1:38:13scale above the Egg Wizard and the Egg
1:38:18Salamander, which could fight Super
1:38:20Sonic and Super Blaze
1:38:22respectively. I just want you to know
1:38:25that. Let me show it.
1:38:29[Music]
1:38:34[Music]
1:38:36Hell yeah. The rawest of the battle mix.
1:38:39It's got electric drills. It's got ice
1:38:42pistols. It's got a whole lot of
1:38:44bullets. My god, Whiz, I need it. Don't
1:38:48forget Eggman built all of these things
1:38:50himself. Yeah. Uh I'm going to be real.
1:38:56Uh, the time eater
1:38:59uh has scaling to the Chaos Emeralds. In
1:39:02Sonic Generations, the Japanese version,
1:39:05it is stated that Time Eater was in the
1:39:09process of destroying the Chaos Emeralds
1:39:13by Classic Metal
1:39:16Sonic. Let me show it here.
1:39:21Yeah, I just want you to keep this in
1:39:22mind because death battle will gloss
1:39:27over this and act like it never
1:39:31happened. Meanwhile, they're going to
1:39:34say something important later that I
1:39:36want you to pay attention to. I'll point
1:39:38it out when it
1:39:40happens. Anyway, let's
1:39:42continue. Maybe world domination is in
1:39:44his grasp yet. One problem. Eggman's a
1:39:47turbo loner. No hobbies, no friends, no
1:39:50wife, no nothing. Come on, he has
1:39:52friends. I mean, he's a feminist. Oh,
1:39:55okay. Maybe not. But what about
1:39:57infinite notice that they will not go
1:40:01over infinite statements or actual
1:40:04feats? It's actually kind of
1:40:07insane. Like, it's like they put no
1:40:10effort into Eggman's side and it and
1:40:15it's very disgusting.
1:40:17Uh, I'll go ahead and
1:40:21uh show the statement where he stated to
1:40:24be Sonic's strongest foe
1:40:27[Music]
1:40:29yet. And uh, you know, well, you
1:40:34probably don't know. People will
1:40:36probably
1:40:37say that
1:40:40uh, why are you showing me this?
1:40:43Infinite isn't stronger than Soloris.
1:40:46Well, yes, he is. I know what you're
1:40:49going to say, but it's just stated. It's
1:40:52not supported by the
1:40:54material. I
1:40:57mean, there are a bunch of statements in
1:41:00the material, such
1:41:02as Infinite being Eggman's
1:41:07greatest weapon or ultimate masterpiece
1:41:10or ultimate weapon. But people don't
1:41:13like to bring that up because it's in
1:41:16the game.
1:41:18Next. It's funny that people don't
1:41:22mention
1:41:24that if we went by the logic of the
1:41:29feats get over statements get
1:41:31under
1:41:34then Namek Saga Super Saiyan
1:41:38Goku would be stronger than Super
1:41:42Perfect
1:41:43Cell because Namek Saga Goku actually
1:41:48has feats.
1:41:50Meanwhile, Super Perfect S only has
1:41:52statements. You could argue all you want
1:41:56about, "Oh, uh, but Super Perfect Cell
1:41:59said he was going to destroy the entire
1:42:01solar system." Guess what? He never did
1:42:04it.
1:42:07So, tell you
1:42:09what, if you could get me a statement
1:42:13that is after Infinite's pull over pack
1:42:17about Solaris being stronger than
1:42:19Infinite, that's fine. And no, Ian Flynn
1:42:23statements neither
1:42:26because the the statement about Infinite
1:42:29being the strongest Sonic Foe came
1:42:32straight from Sega. Unless Ian's words
1:42:36is coming directly from Sega. No, it no.
1:42:40Ian Flynn's words don't mean Jack. It
1:42:43don't mean Jack. Because Ian Flynn
1:42:46himself has stated that if his words
1:42:50contradict Sega, go with Sega. That's
1:42:54it. That's it. And I'll show you this,
1:42:57too. I'll show you this, too. Hold on.
1:43:01All right. Here's one from the might of
1:43:04Gabbor. What do you say or said on the
1:43:06Bumblecast can be
1:43:08insightful and acceptable, but if Sega
1:43:11Sonic Teams interviews, websites,
1:43:13materials, social medias, etc. say
1:43:15otherwise, that's the ultimate say so in
1:43:17source, right? Oh, yeah. Again, I am not
1:43:21an official spokesman. I'm speaking from
1:43:24a position of a gig
1:43:26nerd. Uh, if the official line is
1:43:30something completely different, go with
1:43:32the official line. Stronger than
1:43:34Solaris, and he gets over, he is
1:43:36stronger than Egg Wizard, stronger than
1:43:39the egg dragoon, stronger than the egg
1:43:42salamander, stronger than the time
1:43:45eater. There's nothing you could do
1:43:46about it. That's it. Keep
1:43:49coping. And I even had a tall Toyota
1:43:52weigh in on this stuff. I asked him the
1:43:54question on the statements about
1:43:56Infinite and he literally confirmed that
1:43:59that's what it was saying. It was like
1:44:01Eggman said this and like come on bro.
1:44:04Like no bro guys are cooked. Stop.
1:44:10Stop. Like Atro Tea is the world view
1:44:13supervisor for the Sonic series. He's a
1:44:16Sonic team member and he wrote for Sonic
1:44:19Forces and this is what he has to say.
1:44:23And a tall Toyota is leagues higher than
1:44:27he
1:44:30Flynn. I got I got I gotta say to you
1:44:33guys harshly for you to get the point
1:44:35because if somebody is nice and doesn't
1:44:38show conviction, you'll abuse it and
1:44:41keep trying to go ahead with your
1:44:43nonsense. Infinite gets over. That's it.
1:44:47And we also have the mega death egg
1:44:50robot who is even stronger than
1:44:55[Music]
1:45:01infinite. Sure, they might have joined
1:45:03forces over a mutually soft revenge
1:45:05against Shadow, but it counts. Sort of.
1:45:08Who needs friends when you can build
1:45:10friends? Obviously, Eggman has a tough
1:45:12time collaborating with others, so he
1:45:14just built his own army instead. The
1:45:16Eggman Empire. The Badnicks are
1:45:19mass-produced foot soldiers, busers,
1:45:21crab meat, caterpillars, egg robos, and
1:45:24don't forget those beautiful moto bugs.
1:45:26The badicks may seem simple, but they're
1:45:28led by an elite, multi-talented unit,
1:45:30the hardboiled heavies. Really leaning
1:45:33into the egg thing, huh? The army has a
1:45:35wide variety of troops. Even your
1:45:36classic comedy duo with Orbot and Cubot,
1:45:39their Eggman's assistants, and immense
1:45:41disappointments. Every genius has their
1:45:43duds. Hey, at least they're not scratch
1:45:45and grounder. But that's why he's made
1:45:47top-notch bots modeled after the Sonic
1:45:49cast. Like everyone's favorite Robo
1:45:51Faker, Metal Sonic. Metal Sonic has the
1:45:54most horsepower in the Eggman Empire. He
1:45:56has the moves and speed of Sonic and
1:45:58then some. He has had his rebellious
1:46:00phases, but Eggman's reprogrammed Metal
1:46:02to better follow his commands.
1:46:03Additionally, when upgraded to his Neo
1:46:05form. Yeah. Uh I'm going to interrupt
1:46:09this. Uh, I do want to let people know
1:46:11that
1:46:13uh the Neo Metal Sonic like in the IDW
1:46:18comics is far stronger than the one in
1:46:24uh Sonic Heroes and Rivals and etc. This
1:46:29is because uh the IDW comics is set
1:46:34after Sonic Forces and Neo Metal Sonic
1:46:39explicitly implies that he was made to
1:46:43be stronger than Infinite as in he was
1:46:46supposed to be the greatest weapon in
1:46:49the final battle against Sonic, but he
1:46:53was completed too late. That's what is
1:46:55explicitly stated.
1:46:58Neo Metal Sonic is described as a mad
1:47:02genius like Dr.
1:47:04Eggman with Sonic's abilities and
1:47:08limitless stamina, which Sonic already
1:47:10has.
1:47:14He
1:47:15is stated to
1:47:17be Eggman's greatest
1:47:21creation and he can use the power of the
1:47:25Master
1:47:28Emerald and he has fought Super Sonic in
1:47:34Sonic Speed Simulator which is canon. So
1:47:38there you go.
1:47:45[Music]
1:47:57Heat. Heat.
1:48:11[Music]
1:48:32Heat. Hey, heat. Hey, heat. Heat. Heat.
1:48:38[Music]
1:49:14You
1:49:18win. Heat. Heat.
1:49:37[Music]
1:49:37[Applause]
1:49:57Target.
1:49:59[Music]
1:50:00Heat.
1:50:03[Music]
1:50:08Reloading. Reloading.
1:50:10[Music]
1:50:16[Music]
1:50:26[Music]
1:50:41[Music]
1:50:52Okay. Are you Heat. Heat.
1:51:26[Music]
1:51:32[Music]
1:51:34Okay, hold on.
1:51:47[Music]
1:52:00[Music]
1:52:04Heat.
1:52:06Heat.
1:52:11[Music]
1:52:12[Applause]
1:52:18Heat. Heat.
1:52:25[Music]
1:52:27[Applause]
1:52:33[Music]
1:52:39[Music]
1:52:48[Music]
1:52:50Okay,
1:52:51on me.
1:52:57[Music]
1:53:11[Music]
1:53:17Fire. Heat.
1:53:32[Music]
1:53:41Okay.
1:53:45[Music]
1:53:49Reloading.
1:53:59[Applause]
1:54:07Heat.
1:54:13Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat.
1:54:21[Music]
1:54:39[Music]
1:54:44[Music]
1:54:49Reloading.
1:54:53[Music]
1:55:05Heat.
1:55:12Heat.
1:55:16[Applause]
1:55:29Heat.
1:55:35Heat.
1:55:38[Music]
1:55:45Heat. Heat.
1:55:48[Music]
1:56:11[Music]
1:56:20Metal Sonic could copy biological data,
1:56:23including unique powers like Shadow's
1:56:25time stop technique. chaos control. He
1:56:27can even copy silver psychoinesis. And
1:56:30with enough chaos energy, he powers up
1:56:32into super neo metal sonic. Though
1:56:35everything would change with the
1:56:36appearance of the Phantom Ruby, one of
1:56:38many trump cards at Aman's disposal. The
1:56:40Phantom Ruby alters reality by
1:56:42manipulating perception. Basically,
1:56:44super OP illusions, but in Infinite's
1:56:46hands, it's a weapon of mass
1:56:48destruction. I don't know how illusions
1:56:50translate to body replicas changing
1:56:52gravity or making a fake sun, but go
1:56:55off, gang. And when used on the planet's
1:56:57consciousness, which is a thing, the
1:56:59Ruby granted Eggman the light man form.
1:57:03Yeah. Uh, I do want to talk about this
1:57:05because Death Battle definitely isn't
1:57:08going to tell this to you, but uh, White
1:57:13Man Eggman is comparable to Supersonic
1:57:16and on equal footing.
1:57:18It's stated by the official Sonic the
1:57:22Hedgehog Japanese channel. It's also
1:57:25stated in the story line they are
1:57:27referencing which is the otherworldly
1:57:30comedy or iseka giri. You know, take
1:57:33your pick. Let me show it right here.
1:57:48And even
1:57:50though he used the planet's
1:57:53consciousness as a target, he was able
1:57:56to create entire
1:57:58worlds that revolved around outer space.
1:58:02So he created
1:58:04universes, but death battle won't tell
1:58:07you that. They won't tell you that
1:58:09because they do the bare minimum to the
1:58:12lowest
1:58:14research. Oh, and keep in mind at Toyota
1:58:17did say that otherworld comedy takes
1:58:22place after Sonic Forces. So, the
1:58:24supersonic that lightman Eggman is
1:58:27comparable to is stall gaps above the
1:58:30one in
1:58:31Sonic06. Just wanted to let you know
1:58:33that. Yep. Apparently, Super Eggman is
1:58:37canon, though it is pretty complicated
1:58:39to manifest.
1:58:40Yeah. So, I'm just going to say this.
1:58:43Uh, the black note that they left on
1:58:46top, that is the most bare minimum
1:58:51research I have ever seen.
1:58:54They probably think that world refers to
1:58:59just
1:59:00planets when one of the worlds mentions
1:59:04outer
1:59:05space, which is more than just a planet.
1:59:09But
1:59:11regardless, this this is this is a major
1:59:14problem because they're probably going
1:59:19to say
1:59:21[Music]
1:59:23that the light man form is planetary or
1:59:28some crap like that.
1:59:32It isn't true neither. But the phantom
1:59:35ruby isn't the only souped up gem Eggman
1:59:37has.
1:59:38No, the Phantom
1:59:41Ruby that Eggman had was already on par
1:59:46with Supersonic. The Phantom
1:59:48Ruby prototype that Eggman used in
1:59:51isekai Giri was
1:59:54already powered up by the original Ruby.
1:59:58He just didn't discard it and chose to
2:00:00use that. At all Toyota says so.
2:00:05It's literally the same one from Sonic
2:00:07Forces.
2:00:11Lauo death battle never change.
2:00:15He's used the jeweled scepter to make
2:00:17the world shattering egg wizard.
2:00:20I hope they're not using world
2:00:25shattering as in just planetary because
2:00:30bare minimum at bare
2:00:33minimum the power of the
2:00:36stars are the energies between Sonic and
2:00:41uh Blaz's
2:00:43worlds. Uh and Ian Flynn has said that
2:00:47they are pandimensional.
2:00:51This is in addition to having power
2:00:54outputs that was initially stronger than
2:00:57the Chaos Emeralds, the Soul Emeralds,
2:01:00and even the Master
2:01:02Emerald. And for the love of
2:01:05God, Super Sonic explicitly
2:01:09states that he cannot beat Egg Wizard
2:01:13without working together with Blaze.
2:01:17like,
2:01:19"Yeah, and this is weaker than infinite,
2:01:22mind you." Then on more than one
2:01:24occasion, he's effortlessly gathered the
2:01:26super rare, super powerful Chaos
2:01:29Emeralds. You know, the things that
2:01:30power Super Saiyan Hedgehog. Eggman
2:01:33built and built and built, and
2:01:35eventually he built something that
2:01:37started to build on him. Sage was
2:01:40originally designed as a mere assistant,
2:01:42but through an alien encounter, she was
2:01:44granted actual sentience. Sage is
2:01:47already super powerful. But now she's
2:01:49also super smart. She thought up
2:01:51millions of battle plans all at once to
2:01:53defeat the massive titans. And you can
2:01:55barely remember where you put your dune
2:01:56bug. I know exactly where it is. It's at
2:01:59the police impound. Thank you very much.
2:02:01Sage was Eggman's saving grace. He had
2:02:04previously found machines with
2:02:05personality lacking. But Sage's great
2:02:07adequacy in serving her function
2:02:09provided Eggman with something that for
2:02:11the first time he'd hate to lose. in
2:02:14essence a sort of daughter. So like any
2:02:18good daddy gave her the keys to his car,
2:02:20his spaceship, and his orbital death
2:02:22ring. Hell, now she controls the entire
2:02:25army. And this frankly unheard of trust
2:02:27from Eggman became crucial in defeating
2:02:29the end. A primordial entity so mighty
2:02:32even supersonic struggled against him.
2:02:34Their battle can only be described as
2:02:36peak fiction. Cuz charged by seven Chaos
2:02:39Emeralds, Super Sonic's no joke. The
2:02:41power of one emerald can shift
2:02:43continents. All seven together can shift
2:02:45the universe and kill some pretty
2:02:48terrifying bosses like Eggman's time
2:02:50eater, which ripped apart spaceime like
2:02:53tissue paper. In short, Chaos Emeralds
2:02:55give thoughts power. With them, Eggman's
2:02:58best machines can run indefinitely while
2:03:00matching the greatest powers ever seen.
2:03:02Like when three supers battled Solaris,
2:03:04who tried to destroy time itself.
2:03:06Solaris extended his chaos across
2:03:08multiple timelines in about 20 seconds
2:03:10for 73 quadrillion times light speed.
2:03:12It's funny though. While Eggman's smarts
2:03:15have sort of defeated Sonic here and
2:03:17there, he's pretty effective when he
2:03:18teams up with the blue blur to save the
2:03:20world. Well, recall how Professor Gerald
2:03:22was a good person before losing the
2:03:24granddaughter he loved. In Eggman's
2:03:26case, now that he has Sage, perhaps a
2:03:28similar story is playing out in reverse.
2:03:33Peggy will always have a hairbrain
2:03:35scheme behind his cufflings. So watch
2:03:37out critters and plebeians of the world.
2:03:39He is the Eggman and he's got the master
2:03:42plan.
2:03:47Yeah. So I skipped the battle. We're
2:03:52going to go right into the so-called
2:03:56reasons why Bowser won according to
2:03:58death battle.
2:04:00It's going to be full of BS, but bear
2:04:05with me here. Let's
2:04:07continue. KO. This war was not an easy
2:04:11one to win, which might seem surprising
2:04:13given how the Sonic series is not afraid
2:04:14to show how tough its cast is, while
2:04:16Mario's comes across as more cartoony.
2:04:19[Music]
2:04:21Oh my god. I'm not sure if you can see
2:04:23me put my hand on my face in utter
2:04:29disappointment,
2:04:31but I'm telling you, I'm doing exactly
2:04:34that. The fact that they said that the
2:04:39Mario verse is over the Sonic verse
2:04:42because they're more
2:04:44cartoony has to be one of the dumbest
2:04:47arguments I've ever seen from Death
2:04:50Battle.
2:04:52[Music]
2:04:53Averse be cartoony doesn't just mean
2:04:56they automatically scale above
2:04:59multiversal, hyperversal, outer versal,
2:05:02and etc. levels of power. Things that
2:05:05the Sonic verse has shown to
2:05:09us. Like I don't even I don't even know
2:05:12where they got this idea from. It's it's
2:05:15frankly very
2:05:17stupid.
2:05:19I it would take me a full video and I
2:05:24don't think I could list all the
2:05:27reasons why that is a dumb argument.
2:05:33Um, I'm just going to say it's a very
2:05:36dumb point and
2:05:37that only people like the death battle
2:05:42meat writers, Mario meat writers, people
2:05:46that can't scale or people who can't use
2:05:51logic for whatever reason would believe
2:05:54it. Only they would believe it. I'm just
2:05:58saying. Anyway, let's continue.
2:06:02But as it turns out, Bowser had
2:06:04everything he needed to take Chrome Dome
2:06:05down. Strap in. This one's a lot, so
2:06:08we'll break it down into five
2:06:09categories. First up is physical stats.
2:06:11Bowser pretty handedly outmatched any of
2:06:13Eggman's usual mechs, like the Egg
2:06:15Dragoon or the Death Egg Robot. Okay,
2:06:18I'm going to leave the Death Egg Robot
2:06:21out of this, but the Egg Dragoon, which
2:06:24scales above the egg
2:06:26wizard? Heck no.
2:06:30At the time of Sonic Unleashed, the Ed
2:06:33Dragoon is explicitly stated to be the
2:06:36pinnacle of Eggman's mad
2:06:41science. The Ed Wizard solos the entire
2:06:44Mario versse. That's it. Like, that's
2:06:47the end of it. That's the end of the
2:06:48story. That's not debatable. That's not
2:06:51debatable.
2:06:54The only point at which it's not true is
2:06:58if Sega and Nintendo come out and say,
2:07:02"Oh, uh, yeah, you know, Mario and Sonic
2:07:05characters, you know, they they go hand
2:07:08in hand. You know, they're they're
2:07:09evenly matched. They're rivals to each
2:07:11other." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they they
2:07:14match themselves in all stats and stuff
2:07:16like that. But that has not happened
2:07:19yet. And this
2:07:21is that's a lie.
2:07:25The death egg robot could level cities.
2:07:27Bowser could punch a castle out of
2:07:29orbit. Yeah. Uh in Sonic Lost
2:07:34World, Eggman absorbs the planet's
2:07:38energy. He states destructive force it
2:07:41produces cannot be measured. This is the
2:07:45same Eggman who was able to
2:07:50measure Solaris's power in Sonic
2:07:5406. The same thing with the time
2:07:59meter. This is way beyond throwing
2:08:02something out of orbit. I don't even
2:08:05know why they are comparing these
2:08:09lowass stats. We know Eggman is higher
2:08:13than
2:08:14that. Death Battle showed the stats in
2:08:17the
2:08:18analysis. So, Death Battle is clearly
2:08:22trying to underscore Eggman and make
2:08:26Bowser seem more impressive to make it
2:08:29seem like Bowser had a reason to win.
2:08:33Let's continue. The Death Egg could
2:08:36destroy stars, but Yoshi could match
2:08:38that level of power. He didn't match the
2:08:43level of power of destroying
2:08:48stars. He knocked
2:08:51Raphael into the
2:08:54sky team rocket style.
2:08:59If
2:09:01Raphael
2:09:04actually was turned into a star, he
2:09:08would be dead and he would not appear in
2:09:12any more
2:09:13games or there would be a statement that
2:09:17comic returned him back to
2:09:20life. This did not
2:09:23happen. He's in the Paper Mario series.
2:09:26He's in later Mario entries, later Yoshi
2:09:29entries as well.
2:09:30There's there is there is no excuse for
2:09:33this. This is blatant misinformation.
2:09:36And Bowser's strength is certainly above
2:09:38the green dinosaurs.
2:09:40Uh I wouldn't agree with certainly
2:09:43unless you take that hyperbole statement
2:09:46of Bowser being
2:09:49uh many times stronger than Mario. I
2:09:52forget the number. I think it was
2:09:54trillions, billions, millions or
2:09:58something. If you take that literally,
2:10:01then yeah, I I I can see you easily
2:10:03getting Bowser above Yoshi. But like the
2:10:07fact that Bowser has that much of a
2:10:10strength advantage and still loses would
2:10:13actually be a pawn in this matchup with
2:10:16Eggman. It would like debunk that entire
2:10:19point. So
2:10:21yeah, and that's another problem with
2:10:24the, "Oh, Mario is more cartoony than
2:10:27Sonic." It makes it hard to actually
2:10:30scale their feeds. We don't know if it's
2:10:33actually
2:10:35genuine or if it's an exaggeration,
2:10:38metaphor, or hyperbole for something
2:10:42else, which is a major con to the
2:10:45scaling.
2:10:48Plus, while both Bowser and Eggman's
2:10:50tech survived black holes, Bowser's was
2:10:53much
2:10:55[Music]
2:11:03larger. This just goes without saying,
2:11:06but I'll say it anyway. Bowser did not
2:11:09survive the black hole supernova or
2:11:11whatever. He was saved by Roselina.
2:11:15two, Eggman's black hole that he dealt
2:11:19with from the whis like the hyper golan
2:11:23energy that rivals the Chaos
2:11:26Emeralds. It's actually way more
2:11:28powerful than
2:11:30portrayed. His is actually a greater
2:11:32feat by far.
2:11:37Also, Eggman technically survived the
2:11:41eraser of reality from the time
2:11:44meter. So, yeah.
2:11:48So, he may win stats, but this could
2:11:51change with their powers. With so many
2:11:53items and minions, that could make all
2:11:54that a moot point. Aside from powerup
2:11:56items, both could manipulate mind. Yeah.
2:11:59Uh, there's a problem. One, Eggman's
2:12:03mind control is powered by far
2:12:07superior sources of
2:12:09power compared to
2:12:12Bowser's sources of power.
2:12:16Next,
2:12:17Eggman
2:12:19has created precautions for mind
2:12:24control, such as when he resisted
2:12:26Starlines hypnosis.
2:12:31and he would have applied this into his
2:12:34robots. First of all, we don't even know
2:12:38if Bowser's kind of mind control even
2:12:42works on robots. So,
2:12:45like that's a dead end.
2:12:48Duplicate. Yeah. Uh here's the problem.
2:12:52Eggman's kind of
2:12:54duplicates don't get one-shotted by any
2:12:56old thing. One hit takes the the double
2:13:02cherries duplicates
2:13:04out. Meanwhile, Eggman's duplicates are
2:13:08stated to be just as strong as the
2:13:12originals. And they don't just get
2:13:14one-shotted. We can see that in Sonic
2:13:16the Fighters and Sonic Forces.
2:13:24[Music]
2:13:39Heat. Heat.
2:13:44[Music]
2:13:50[Music]
2:14:02[Music]
2:14:31Heat. Heat.
2:14:34[Music]
2:14:51I can't wait to see how long you last
2:14:54against this. Come out and fight me
2:14:56yourself and I'll mop you up real quick.
2:14:58Impudent run. I'm going to savor
2:15:01watching you suffer.
2:15:26Some great
2:16:00What? Heat. Heat.
2:16:15[Music]
2:17:02You're not making this easy, are you? No
2:17:05matter. Crushing will be all the more
2:17:08satisfying.
2:17:33[Music]
2:17:45[Music]
2:17:52No. How could I lose to the likes of you
2:17:54again? That was a blast. Bring some
2:17:57chili dogs next time.
2:18:04[Music]
2:18:16Wait a second. Speaking of which, where
2:18:19was Zavok through that death battle?
2:18:22Seriously, why wasn't he in there? He
2:18:25was an ally of Eggman in Sonic Lost
2:18:29World. and he was an ally of Eggman in
2:18:33Team Sonic
2:18:35[Music]
2:18:36Racing. You know what? I'm so done with
2:18:38Death Battle, man. It's an ultra
2:18:41spacetime. Yeah, they seem to be
2:18:43removing a lot of context on which
2:18:47character affects spaceime on a greater
2:18:51scale because the time eater, the egg
2:18:56wizard, the egg salamander, they've all
2:18:59affected spaceime on a higher scale than
2:19:03anything Bowser has
2:19:04done. They're just being disingenuous
2:19:07here.
2:19:08However, Bowser had a significant edge
2:19:11in having access to the majority of his
2:19:13abilities at all times. Yeah.
2:19:17Uh, no. Just
2:19:21no. For example, in Super Mario Galaxy,
2:19:26Bowser is quite literally stripped of
2:19:29his advantages between fights very
2:19:32frequently.
2:19:33Heck, in the final battle, the most
2:19:36important one, he loses control of his
2:19:38floating planet as Mario attacks him and
2:19:41beats him up, forcing him to engage in a
2:19:44more vulnerable
2:19:46state. Next, in New Super Mario
2:19:49Brothers, in the first game of the
2:19:51series, Bowser is knocked into lava
2:19:54where he's completely reduced to bones,
2:19:57requiring magic intervention from Bowser
2:20:00Jr. to restore him. clearly showing that
2:20:03he doesn't always retain his form or
2:20:06tools. Like he needs intervention to get
2:20:09over. Next, Super Mario Sunshine.
2:20:13Bowser's
2:20:15mechanical
2:20:16themed battle vehicle that's based on
2:20:19Bowser himself is destroyed by Mario,
2:20:22leaving him defeated and unable to keep
2:20:25his advantage.
2:20:26[Music]
2:20:28Next, the Mario and Luigi RPG series.
2:20:33Bowser is weakened very frequently or
2:20:38manipulated in these games. Like in
2:20:41Bowser's Inside Story, Thawful takes
2:20:44away most of Bowser's strength, leaving
2:20:46him powerless until he regains it later.
2:20:50And in the Paper Mario
2:20:52series, while Bowser usually starts off
2:20:56strong in the entries of those games, he
2:21:00often loses access to very important
2:21:05powerups throughout the games. In Paper
2:21:08Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, he
2:21:11attempts to claim the Shadow Queen's
2:21:13power, but is rejected, leaving him
2:21:16powerless against her. Now, Eggman, on
2:21:20the other hand, has shown his abilities
2:21:24to keep his equipment far more
2:21:27consistently, frequently escaping
2:21:30battles to rebuild his forces with
2:21:32little
2:21:33consequence. If Bowser can be stripped
2:21:35of his gear in different Mario games,
2:21:38then the argument that he always has his
2:21:41equipment falls apart. Yeah, Eggman can
2:21:43do some crazy stuff, but only across
2:21:46different mechs. Bowser can only do
2:21:49worse things than
2:21:50Eggman, but only across different
2:21:53powerups. See how dumb that sounds? This
2:21:57is a battle where all their powerups are
2:22:00considered. All their equipment are
2:22:03considered. Why are you even using this
2:22:06argument? It's
2:22:09disingenuous. But that's death battle.
2:22:11They'll use it. Fortresses or space
2:22:14bases? Bowser's all natural. He's got
2:22:16all his best powers built in. I have I
2:22:20have no words. I'm just going to post
2:22:23the history of him using powerups to amp
2:22:26himself to try to be Yoshi, Mario,
2:22:28whoever. And
2:22:29like we're we're just going to move to
2:22:32the next part
2:22:35because this is so disingenuous. Oh my
2:22:38god.
2:22:44[Music]
2:23:00[Music]
2:23:07here.
2:23:15Ready, go.
2:23:30[Music]
2:23:45[Music]
2:23:52Don't jump.
2:23:57[Music]
2:24:19[Music]
2:24:36Go. Let's go.
2:24:45[Music]
2:24:59[Applause]
2:25:02[Music]
2:25:17It's me.
2:25:30[Music]
2:25:38[Applause]
2:25:39[Music]
2:25:49Wow.
2:25:58[Music]
2:26:10Stop business.
2:26:17[Music]
2:26:27[Music]
2:26:32[Music]
2:26:35Hello. Hello.
2:26:40[Music]
2:26:47That's nothing.
2:26:55[Music]
2:27:04[Music]
2:27:14[Music]
2:27:26[Music]
2:27:33[Music]
2:27:38Woohoo! Come on.
2:27:50[Music]
2:27:54Up there.
2:27:57[Music]
2:28:11Good
2:28:18[Music]
2:28:32job.
2:28:34[Music]
2:28:51Heat. Heat.
2:29:12Heat. Heat.
2:29:18[Music]
2:29:37Heat. Heat.
2:29:39[Music]
2:29:46Heat. Heat.
2:29:48[Music]
2:30:10Heat.
2:30:17Heat. Heat. Heat.
2:30:22[Music]
2:30:30[Applause]
2:30:31[Music]
2:30:46[Music]
2:30:52Heat. Heat.
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2:31:08[Applause]
2:31:17Heat.
2:31:21[Music]
2:31:24Heat. Heat. Heat.
2:31:29[Music]
2:31:55Heat.
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2:31:59Heat. Heat. Heat.
2:32:00[Music]
2:32:12Heat.
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2:32:29Heat.
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2:32:36Heat.
2:32:39[Music]
2:32:47Heat.
2:32:49[Music]
2:32:56Heat.
2:32:59[Music]
2:33:09Heat. Hey, heat. Hey,
2:33:12[Music]
2:33:18heat. Heat.
2:33:19[Music]
2:33:38Heat.
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2:33:57Heat. Heat.
2:34:10[Music]
2:34:25power.
2:34:26[Music]
2:34:35[Music]
2:34:49Oh, heat, heat.
2:34:55[Music]
2:34:58Ally
2:35:17[Music]
2:35:28[Music]
2:35:49Don't go.
2:36:12Woohoo! Hey!
2:36:18[Music]
2:36:41Ouch. Come on.
2:36:46[Applause]
2:36:55[Music]
2:37:11Hello. Hello.
2:37:15[Music]
2:37:24[Music]
2:37:30[Music]
2:37:54[Music]
2:37:59I'm ready.
2:38:02[Music]
2:38:08You never
2:38:16[Music]
2:38:24[Music]
2:38:33[Music]
2:38:47[Music]
2:38:54Everybody know.
2:39:00[Music]
2:39:17[Music]
2:39:27Heat. Heat.
2:39:29[Music]
2:39:41[Music]
2:39:43[Applause]
2:39:47[Music]
2:40:18See that built-in they're talking
2:40:20about. Me, too. And he ain't even a
2:40:23robot, meaning he wins the war of
2:40:25attrition. That is a flat out lie. But
2:40:29let's continue. He even had counters for
2:40:31battle enders like the metal virus and
2:40:33spatial displacement trap. Context
2:40:35matters for those weapons and both
2:40:37backfired in the past.
2:40:38First of all, the deadly six who should
2:40:42have been in this death battle along
2:40:44with Eggman were the reasons why the
2:40:49metal virus backfired. They had the
2:40:52abilities to control the system that the
2:40:57metal virus functioned on because
2:41:00it's synonymous with
2:41:03robotics and the deadly 6 can control
2:41:07machines.
2:41:09Next, the spatial displacement trap had
2:41:14to be overloaded with Chaos Emerald
2:41:18energy, which Bowser does not have
2:41:22anything close to in terms of
2:41:24power. So, that's out of the question.
2:41:29Bowser has no means of countering the
2:41:32spatial displacement
2:41:34trap and the metal
2:41:36virus, which when it mutates becomes
2:41:40unsustainable.
2:41:41But more importantly, Bowser could
2:41:43simply reverse the effects with his
2:41:45transmutation magic.
2:41:47Okay, let's make one thing clear. Death
2:41:51Battle does not have evidence that the
2:41:54Star Rod or any of Bowser's equipment
2:41:56could do that. Keep in
2:41:59mind, even the Chaos Emeralds
2:42:04capability on whether it could deal with
2:42:06the Metal Virus was put into
2:42:08question in the IDW comic. You could
2:42:11read it yourself.
2:42:13[Music]
2:42:15Meanwhile, the metal virus also was able
2:42:20to infect Sonic and Shadow, who could
2:42:24survive the time eaters eraser of
2:42:27energy, color, space, time, and
2:42:33reality. Star Rod's getting cooked, too.
2:42:36And so is Bowser as the result.
2:42:41If they think otherwise, they should get
2:42:43proof for that. But until then, no.
2:42:47Conversely, most of Eggman's robots
2:42:49could get turned into, say, a frog or a
2:42:52block with no reliable way back. Do they
2:42:55know that some of Eggman's robots are
2:42:58able to resist
2:43:02transmutation? This is from Sonic
2:43:06Heroes.
2:43:07like I they didn't play the game. Uh
2:43:11anyway, next. This is uh this is BS.
2:43:16Bowser takes the edge in powers, but
2:43:19definitely not for intelligence. Come
2:43:21on, you have a fourdigit IQ, Bowser.
2:43:24Really? That's cute. I mean, don't get
2:43:26me wrong, Bowser's not an idiot.
2:43:27Usually, just really, really clumsy. how
2:43:31anyone can look at the Mario games and
2:43:35Bowser's biggest
2:43:37fumbles and not come to the conclusion
2:43:40that he is an idiot is actually kind of
2:43:45crazy. Anyway, let's continue that. That
2:43:49That's an hilarious lie right there.
2:43:53Poor fella. Meanwhile, Eggman's an
2:43:55engineering genius who rarely ever gets
2:43:58bested by brains. Easy dub. Now, let's
2:44:00talk trump cards, as in items so
2:44:03powerful they could decide the entire
2:44:04outcome on their own. The Phantom Ruby
2:44:07was super dangerous, but specifically
2:44:09targets perception.
2:44:11Yeah. Uh, they took that out of context.
2:44:15Sonic Mania
2:44:17explicitly has it distort space and time
2:44:21and all of that.
2:44:23So,
2:44:24yeah, keep in mind it's also compared to
2:44:27the Mass Emerald. So, even if it doesn't
2:44:32affect reality, it still has a power
2:44:35yield comparable to the Chaos Emeralds
2:44:37and Master Emerald. Way beyond anything
2:44:40in Bowser's army. Unlike Bowser's
2:44:43Wonderflower, which mucks up reality for
2:44:45real. You can't be serious.
2:44:49Okay, I'm going to ask anyone or death
2:44:54battle to do a task where they get a
2:44:59feat of the Wonderflower affecting the
2:45:02universe. If you can't do
2:45:05that, the Wonderflower gets under the
2:45:08Phantom Ruby simply due to the fact that
2:45:11the Phantom Ruby created an entirely new
2:45:15universe in Ogiri.
2:45:18[Music]
2:45:21can't do it. Okay, the Phantom Ruby gets
2:45:24over.
2:45:25And this was ignoring that light man
2:45:29Eggman who uses the Phantom Ruby was
2:45:32comparable to Supersonic. He uses the
2:45:35Chaos Emeralds.
2:45:37The Ruby affected a whole planet. But
2:45:40the Wonderflower had the power to alter
2:45:42the universe. No, you're not doing that.
2:45:45If the Phantom Ruby is not multiversal
2:45:48and up when it has scaling to the Chaos
2:45:50Emeralds, you're not getting the
2:45:52Wonderflower to universe level with no
2:45:54feats. Get that out of you. Also,
2:45:57the dream stone's ability to wish
2:45:59anything out of existence. If he could
2:46:01have actually done that, nothing would
2:46:04have stopped him. Mario would have been
2:46:06defeated and he would have actually had
2:46:09a feat supporting he could do
2:46:12that. It's clearly hyperbole.
2:46:15would have no problem cleaning up Super
2:46:17Neo Metal Sonic or Time Eater. Lau,
2:46:20what? Super Neo Metal Sonic is
2:46:23comparable to Supersonic and Time Eater
2:46:26literally survived reality
2:46:29eraser. What are they talking
2:46:32about? They're lying out of their asses.
2:46:36And it's so blatant to
2:46:38see. Their most prized possessions was a
2:46:41tougher call. Together, the Chaos
2:46:43Emeralds can break the universe.
2:46:45Multiple universes,
2:46:48actually. Multiple. Even in Sonic Rush,
2:46:53both Blaz's world and Sonic's world,
2:46:56which are two universes, were going to
2:46:59be destroyed by the by the Chaos
2:47:01Emeralds, but so can the Grand Stars,
2:47:04which Bowser does not scale to, nor can
2:47:07he survive it. He would die in the
2:47:10process.
2:47:12This is very
2:47:14clear. That's why he was saved by
2:47:16Roselina in Super Mario Galaxy.
2:47:20Arguably not as much given the emerald
2:47:22scaling to Solaris or the Egg Wizard or
2:47:25the Time Mater or Infinite or
2:47:31Zavok or the Eggrobo or a Razor
2:47:35Gin or the Phantom Ruby or the Power of
2:47:39the Stars or the Master Emerald. You get
2:47:43the point. Bowser was here. The
2:47:46Power Stars and Grand Stars are far more
2:47:48plentiful.
2:47:50Hey, quick question. How many
2:47:54ants from our world would it take to
2:47:57beat
2:48:02Galactis? Exactly. That's how stupid
2:48:05that argument sounds. Clearly, this is
2:48:08getting fairly abstract. And both had
2:48:11multiple options that could win the day
2:48:12instantly. Eggman's methods of winning
2:48:15actually works and can be executed on
2:48:18the other. Bowsers are fodder and don't
2:48:21work on
2:48:23Eggman. So, the safest bet is to call
2:48:26this category a tie. I wouldn't
2:48:29call
2:48:32having three plus stock gap level things
2:48:36on your arsenal a tie.
2:48:39But sure, whatever saves face of your
2:48:43errors, which means it's finally time to
2:48:45compare their armies. Eggman seems
2:48:47deadlier at first glance. One, he is
2:48:51deadlier at first glance. Two, are they
2:48:55actually trying to use the pure
2:48:59hearts? Are you serious? The pure hearts
2:49:03only counter the chaos hearts. That's
2:49:07all they're meant for. They don't amp
2:49:10Bowser. They don't restore reality on
2:49:14the level that time eater and etc.
2:49:17erased or could
2:49:21erase. Like where are they getting this
2:49:24from? They didn't play the games. They
2:49:27didn't watch the cut scenes. They didn't
2:49:29read the guide books. Where are they
2:49:31getting this from?
2:49:33Next, using statements for the cosmology
2:49:36of Sonic and Mario. Sonic's cosmology is
2:49:40far bigger. I made an entire document on
2:49:43it. You should check it out, by the way.
2:49:45I'll link it in the description. I mean,
2:49:48look at all those buzz saws and rockets.
2:49:50Metal Sonic's speed and power alone
2:49:52could solo most of the Koopa Troop. Most
2:49:55I think you mean all. The Koopa Troop
2:49:57don't have the feats and statements that
2:49:59Metal Sonic has.
2:50:01But the Eggman Empire lacked something
2:50:04Bowser had in space. Teamwork and
2:50:08[Music]
2:50:09loyalty. Death Battles
2:50:12motto, their premise for the show is
2:50:16that they take the characters at their
2:50:20best for the
2:50:22battle to determine who would truly win
2:50:25a death battle.
2:50:27[Music]
2:50:29This this
2:50:32[Music]
2:50:33dishonest
2:50:36argument weakens Eggman's forces
2:50:41intentionally. If Eggman's army was
2:50:45considered at its peak, then efficiency
2:50:48should be measured based on moments when
2:50:50it successfully conquers
2:50:53territories, build mega scale machines,
2:50:57and overwhelm Sonic's
2:51:00forces,
2:51:02not not being a walking
2:51:05contradiction to each other's strengths,
2:51:08because that is not Eggman's forces at
2:51:10their best.
2:51:12that is never stated to be their
2:51:15best. Not only that, but they left out a
2:51:20bunch of
2:51:21characters that would have even given a
2:51:25little validity to that statement. For
2:51:28example, death battle excluded
2:51:34Zavok, who has actually betrayed Eggman.
2:51:42Metal
2:51:43Sonic used to betray Eggman. Well, I
2:51:47mean, he kind of still does, but it's an
2:51:48outlier kind of
2:51:50thing.
2:51:51But
2:51:54Eggman modified his
2:51:57programming so Metal Sonic would now
2:52:00follow him consistently.
2:52:04One thing they also fail to acknowledge
2:52:07is that Eggman's army is largely robotic
2:52:10and programmed to follow his
2:52:13commands. And this is unlike Bowser's
2:52:16minions, which display varying levels of
2:52:20intelligence and independence. Eggman's
2:52:23forces operate in or organized ways
2:52:27under his direct
2:52:31control. And here's the thing about the
2:52:34whole, oh well, you know,
2:52:37the B Eggman's army is went against him,
2:52:41bro.
2:52:43The claim that Eggman's army is
2:52:46dysfunctional mainly stems from a few
2:52:50high-profile betrayals like Metal Sonic
2:52:53and the hard-boiled
2:52:55heavies, but the overwhelming majority
2:52:58of Eggman's creations remain loyal.
2:53:01Emphasis of
2:53:04rebellion are
2:53:07isolated at best rather than a general
2:53:10rule. This is similar to how Bowser
2:53:13sometimes faces
2:53:16insubordination like comic getting
2:53:19captured or Bowser Jr. disobeying
2:53:22etc. Discounting Eggman's full army
2:53:28based on a few rogue elements is unfair
2:53:32and misrepresents the actual efficiency
2:53:35of his forces. Point blank. This is some
2:53:39dishonest they
2:53:41call. I don't know how you guys deal
2:53:44with this. Th I don't know how you guys
2:53:46accept this. This is
2:53:48Eggman is a notoriously terrible team
2:53:51player. His alliances are practically
2:53:53guaranteed to fall apart. Again, those
2:53:56are
2:53:58outliers. Those are not the norm.
2:54:01[Music]
2:54:03In Sonic Generations, he could barely
2:54:05manage working with himself. Eggman's
2:54:07army is designed to be controlled by
2:54:08just him. To Eggman, it's harder to
2:54:10command those with free will. And take
2:54:14Sonic
2:54:15forces where he had his robot army and
2:54:19he took over the world when Sonic was
2:54:21out of the
2:54:22picture. Remember that for a second.
2:54:24Remember
2:54:26that. They don't mention that though.
2:54:30Hence his rivalry with the Free Natured
2:54:32Sonic. Meanwhile, the Koopa Troop
2:54:33follows Bowser because they actually
2:54:35like him. They train really hard to
2:54:37cover each other's weak points. What
2:54:41feats, what statements do they have that
2:54:44compares to the bad nicks?
2:54:47Accolades. What do they have that
2:54:50compares to the bad mix's
2:54:52accolades? What do they
2:54:56have? They get blitzed by Metal Sonic.
2:55:00It does not matter how well they
2:55:03supposedly work together. They're too
2:55:06weak to put up a fight against the
2:55:09majority of Eggman's
2:55:12badness. How many ants working together
2:55:16would beat
2:55:17Galactis? We're on that same argument
2:55:20again.
2:55:22That's what death battles do, giving
2:55:24them plenty of advantages as this war
2:55:26progressed, like battlefield control
2:55:28through King Buu's magic. Fun fact, did
2:55:31you know that Eggman's capsules from the
2:55:34classic games can encase ghosts in
2:55:38them? Funny they didn't mention that.
2:55:41That would have dealt with any of the
2:55:42booze
2:55:43really. And Bowser Junior's paint. And
2:55:46since the Koopa Troop doesn't rely that
2:55:47much on technology, Sage's hacking
2:55:49potential had little use to seal the
2:55:53entire Eggman army into
2:55:56cyerspace where they can't get out. It
2:55:59transcends
2:56:02mathematics and it stores
2:56:05souls. It stores
2:56:09souls so the booze cannot get out of it.
2:56:13Also, secret weapon kamic is kind of
2:56:16busted. Canceling Metal Sonic's power
2:56:18copying. Question. Do you have a scan
2:56:21which states that comic can negate power
2:56:25[Music]
2:56:29copying? No.
2:56:33Okay, it's a lie. Stealing the Phantom
2:56:36Ruby and potentially swapping the Chaos
2:56:38Emeralds were huge game changers.
2:56:41One, get a feat of
2:56:45comic using his magic on things as
2:56:48powerful as the phantom ruby and the
2:56:50chaos elements. Next, this wouldn't work
2:56:53because both items are sensient. They
2:56:58can act on their own and they will
2:57:01choose Eggman because he's a more
2:57:03familiar user of those items. Add on
2:57:07that Bowser and his army can use any
2:57:10Mario powerup item, and they had
2:57:11millions, no, billions of combinations
2:57:13that the Eggman Empire just could not
2:57:16actively plan against. One, not as
2:57:18powerful as Eggman's army. Two, it takes
2:57:22one hit to knock them out of it. And I
2:57:26see them mentioning Sage, but do they
2:57:30know that her very existence as how she
2:57:34is in Sonic Forces and onwards was
2:57:37brought upon by the ancients
2:57:40technology. And even without that,
2:57:43Sage's original model hacked into the
2:57:46ancients technology in cyerspace, which
2:57:49had an infinite amount of
2:57:52[Music]
2:57:54data. Those
2:57:55powerups and their permutations are not
2:57:58a problem for
2:57:59Sage, who could handle all that data.
2:58:03That said, Death Battle is lying to you
2:58:06guys. Even with Sage's millions of plans
2:58:09to take down the Titans, she thought
2:58:11them to be unbeatable. I could go
2:58:13through an entire video on this, but
2:58:18Bowser's army wouldn't be able to beat
2:58:20the Titans neither. Like, they're like
2:58:24ants for the Titans or not even. They're
2:58:27like They're like water bears being
2:58:31devoured by a person after eating some
2:58:35lettuce. That's what it
2:58:37is. The characters in Sonic Frontiers
2:58:41defies causality, logic, and reality.
2:58:47Uh, I I Sage being even partially right
2:58:52on those is way beyond
2:58:55any data handling feat the
2:58:59Bowser squad
2:59:02has. Come on now. Which Sonic proved was
2:59:06incorrect. You mean the same Sonic who
2:59:08did busted feets throughout the series?
2:59:11You mean the same Sonic who is propped
2:59:15up as being able to do what no one else
2:59:18can? Come on now. He breaks logic.
2:59:25This is not some con. Bowser's army
2:59:28can't do what Sonic does.
2:59:30Just comparing their conquests makes it
2:59:33clear the Eggman Empire took over the
2:59:35whole planet, but Bowser's troop
2:59:37conquered most of the universe.
2:59:41Eggman destroyed the
2:59:44universe. Didn't just conquer it. He
2:59:47destroyed
2:59:48it. How is this even a
2:59:51comparison? Death Battle is the kind of
2:59:54people that will say that someone
2:59:57conquering a planet needs their
3:00:00planetary. Also, Bowser conquers with
3:00:04brawn, not
3:00:06smarts.
3:00:08So what's the significance of that
3:00:12statement? Like what's the substance?
3:00:15How smart were the people that he
3:00:17conquered? How powerful were
3:00:20they? These are the kind of questions
3:00:22you need to ask when they say, "Well, he
3:00:24conquered the universe. Well, going to
3:00:28death. How impressive is that? Like who
3:00:32did he conquer? How smart and powerful
3:00:35were they?" I'm saying this because this
3:00:38is an important question that should be
3:00:40answered, but they never explore
3:00:44this. That is a major lack of
3:00:49foresight. It's a it's a it's telling of
3:00:53their research quality, too. Eggman was
3:00:56no pushover. His wit, power output, and
3:00:58ridiculous machines gave Bowser the
3:01:00biggest fight of his life. But the Koopa
3:01:02King's ludicrous strength, abilities,
3:01:03and united forces ultimately prevail.
3:01:06Eggman tried to poach the king, and now
3:01:09he's cracked and scrambled. The winner
3:01:12is Bowser.
3:01:14Man, this was a garbage episode to
3:01:17debunk. If you like the video,
3:01:20subscribe, follow, and like the
3:01:23video, you know, and have a good day.
3:01:26I'll see you on the next one. The
3:01:28Madagra out.

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