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  1. 0:00hi this is Miss pm and this is going to
  2. 0:02be your presentation for blood
  3. 0:06transfusion blood transfusions can be
  4. 0:09given for many reasons to for as a blood
  5. 0:12replacement as just a blood transfusion
  6. 0:15where we are exchanging um New Blood
  7. 0:18products for Old Blood products and then
  8. 0:21you may need specific blood products um
  9. 0:26for various reasons um so blood can be
  10. 0:29given as whole blood or you can give it
  11. 0:32as components and so whole blood would
  12. 0:34include everything that would be in the
  13. 0:38donor's blood whereas components they
  14. 0:40take the um components and they separate
  15. 0:42them out so for each whole blood unit
  16. 0:44you would have you know red blood cells
  17. 0:47platelets plasmas things like that that
  18. 0:50you would separate
  19. 0:52out um you can give the medication or
  20. 0:55the transfusions um as you're managing
  21. 0:58uh different hematologic diseases such
  22. 1:01as anemia um it can be given when a
  23. 1:03patient experiences trauma and bleeding
  24. 1:05and they need blood replacement or if
  25. 1:08they have blood loss during
  26. 1:10surgery it is considered a temporary
  27. 1:13support um so it is given to support the
  28. 1:17client's um circulatory needs while we
  29. 1:20are um working on resolving the
  30. 1:22underlying problem you want to avoid it
  31. 1:25unless it's absolutely necessary um
  32. 1:28because of the potential uh risk risk
  33. 1:30that come along with it um it is a very
  34. 1:33common
  35. 1:35um intervention that we will see as
  36. 1:38nurses quite frequently but it can have
  37. 1:40some very potential uh dangerous effects
  38. 1:43so that once again it needs to be
  39. 1:45avoided unless it's absolutely necessary
  40. 1:48and then once again if you for whatever
  41. 1:51the reason you're giving the blood a
  42. 1:53component therapy you're going to have
  43. 1:55different um objectives for that so it
  44. 1:57could be to increase the circulating
  45. 1:59blood volume after the surgery trauma or
  46. 2:01Hemorrhage um you could give it to
  47. 2:03increase the number of red blood cells
  48. 2:05to maintain hemoglobin levels for
  49. 2:07clients that have severe anemia um and
  50. 2:10then once you could give the different
  51. 2:11components as replacement therapy so
  52. 2:13some examples of that is plasma clotting
  53. 2:15factors for those patients that have
  54. 2:18hemophilia um those components are what
  55. 2:20they were missing and this we would be
  56. 2:22providing it through the transfusion
  57. 2:30okay so patients must be in um that are
  58. 2:33donating must be in good General Health
  59. 2:35not feeling ill on the day that they
  60. 2:37donate um they want you to maintain your
  61. 2:39iron level for donation patients must be
  62. 2:4217 years or
  63. 2:44older there are some additional
  64. 2:46requirements for our purposes 17 years
  65. 2:49um and the same thing with this weight
  66. 2:51uh patients must weigh at least 110
  67. 2:53pounds um there are some specific
  68. 2:55guidelines for those under 18 for our
  69. 2:57purposes 110 lbs is what I I need you to
  70. 3:01remember um firsttime mail donors um may
  71. 3:04be um eligible to donate if they have
  72. 3:07not had sex with another man in more
  73. 3:09than three months so um in the past any
  74. 3:13man who had sexual relationships with
  75. 3:15another man would not be eligible um so
  76. 3:18now it's related to um they they are a
  77. 3:21little bit more lenient on that and they
  78. 3:23look at the last three months and um
  79. 3:26identify if any other risk factors are
  80. 3:28present
  81. 3:30um those who
  82. 3:33um have uh oh sorry you cannot donate
  83. 3:37blood except for every 56 days so
  84. 3:40obviously if you've donated within the
  85. 3:41last 56 days you wouldn't be eligible
  86. 3:43for that you cannot have a fever so the
  87. 3:46temperature cannot exceed
  88. 3:4899.5 your blood pressure has to be
  89. 3:50relatively uh controlled so not way too
  90. 3:53high or way too low so systolic 90 to
  91. 3:55180 diastolic 50 to 100 and then you
  92. 3:59have to have hog globin levels that are
  93. 4:01adequate so 12.5 for females and 13 for
  94. 4:05males all right so there are people that
  95. 4:08are ruled out as um ineligible to donate
  96. 4:12so those who are taking anti-coagulant
  97. 4:15medications blood thinner should not
  98. 4:17donate um those who have used um uh
  99. 4:22needles to take drug steroids or any
  100. 4:24unprescribed
  101. 4:26medications um in the past 3 months
  102. 4:30um should also not donate men who have
  103. 4:33had sexual contact with other men in the
  104. 4:35past three months um anyone who has a
  105. 4:38positive test for HIV or Aids anyone who
  106. 4:41has engaged in sex for money or drugs in
  107. 4:44the past 3
  108. 4:46months um are also ineligible and then
  109. 4:49anyone who has taken a medication
  110. 4:51tegison for psoriasis which I believe is
  111. 4:53no longer on the market but if you have
  112. 4:55taken it at any point in your history um
  113. 4:59you are um asked not to donate blood
  114. 5:03because it can cause some um changes
  115. 5:06within your blood cells and then anyone
  116. 5:09who has risk factors for the crvi Jacob
  117. 5:11disease um is asked not to donate as
  118. 5:16well so um if you have um somebody who
  119. 5:21does not want to
  120. 5:23receive or cannot receive other donors
  121. 5:26blood we have um a couple of options so
  122. 5:31um autolus blood donations means that
  123. 5:34we're donating blood to give to
  124. 5:37ourself or so it's their own blood in
  125. 5:40some way so you can have um autologus
  126. 5:43blood donations that are banked in order
  127. 5:46to
  128. 5:48um prepare for upcoming transfusion
  129. 5:51typically due to a surgical need or you
  130. 5:55can have uh blood Salvage and then you
  131. 5:57have a third option which isn't really a
  132. 5:59olus but it's a designated donor so um
  133. 6:03when you give somebody their own blood
  134. 6:04which we'll talk about first you're
  135. 6:05going to reduce the risk of disease
  136. 6:07transmission because we're not going to
  137. 6:09get anything we don't already have um
  138. 6:11and then potential transfusion
  139. 6:13complications because if I receive my
  140. 6:14own blood I'm less likely to react to my
  141. 6:17own blood um than I would be to other
  142. 6:21patients
  143. 6:22blood um if I were U banking blood for
  144. 6:28a or ining my blood in preparation for
  145. 6:31upcoming transfusion I would need to
  146. 6:34start that um blood donation within five
  147. 6:38weeks of my procedure and I could donate
  148. 6:41every 3 days and I would have to end
  149. 6:44that at least 3 days before the last
  150. 6:46date of the transfusion so every 3 days
  151. 6:49gets my body to regenerate enough blood
  152. 6:51so that when I take it out again um I'm
  153. 6:54not going to cause a too too little
  154. 6:56profusion and then that five weeks
  155. 6:58before is related to the storage of the
  156. 7:01blood because the fresh of the blood we
  157. 7:03can only store it for a certain amount
  158. 7:04of time um so that's why that five we um
  159. 7:08ranges there and then of course 3 days
  160. 7:10before the transfusion because if you
  161. 7:12need a
  162. 7:13transfusion you want to give yourself
  163. 7:15time to go ahead and build back up to
  164. 7:17closer to normal levels um so that would
  165. 7:20be if you were banking Aus blood
  166. 7:22donations then there's an autologus blow
  167. 7:24donation known as blood Salvage this is
  168. 7:27done during surgical procedures so um
  169. 7:31blood can be suctioned from closed body
  170. 7:33cavities such as joint spaces or other
  171. 7:35closed body sites during surgical
  172. 7:38procedure so we're having that blood
  173. 7:40loss but we're suctioning the blood
  174. 7:42immediately um and as that blood gets
  175. 7:44suctioned there's two different ways so
  176. 7:46you can have it Go automatically
  177. 7:48reinfused into the patient or most of
  178. 7:51the time what you see is it goes through
  179. 7:53a machine and it filters filters it out
  180. 7:55makes sure that there's no uh
  181. 7:57contaminants and then it rein fuses to
  182. 7:59the patients this one in particular is
  183. 8:02going to be for a client that has t a
  184. 8:06religious
  185. 8:07um a religious uh belief where they
  186. 8:10cannot receive blood donations because
  187. 8:12they also won't receive those Bank Al
  188. 8:16autologous blood donations um but they
  189. 8:19can receive this Blood Salvage it's
  190. 8:21usually within their um beliefs um
  191. 8:24whereas you can still see it used with
  192. 8:27other clients um
  193. 8:30I think kind of the invention of It kind
  194. 8:32of came around for this reason to be
  195. 8:34able to have a an option for this
  196. 8:37reinfusion for patients that could not
  197. 8:40uh that if they lost too much blood they
  198. 8:41wouldn't re re be able to receive um
  199. 8:45blood transfusions after and then the
  200. 8:48option the designated donor so it's not
  201. 8:50a Tolus but in this uh option you would
  202. 8:53have somebody that is chosen to donate
  203. 8:55blood um this would be an option for
  204. 8:58people that have like a origin genetic
  205. 8:59disorder or genetic um what I want to
  206. 9:03say a genetic um difference in their
  207. 9:05blood where they would need a specific
  208. 9:07donor that meets those requirements so
  209. 9:09they wouldn't react or um just patients
  210. 9:12that have a fear of um receiving blood
  211. 9:17from somebody that they do not know
  212. 9:19because it's it's just anyone's blood um
  213. 9:22there's no way to identify
  214. 9:25them okay so when they get the blood and
  215. 9:28they start process in it before it comes
  216. 9:30to the patient um they take first of all
  217. 9:33they take each unit of blood so as the
  218. 9:35donor donates blood they donate it
  219. 9:37obviously in whole blood um and then
  220. 9:39that whole blood is typically going to
  221. 9:41be separated into several components
  222. 9:43although whole blood can be um given and
  223. 9:47we'll talk about that a little bit
  224. 9:48later um but typically we'll see
  225. 9:53um multiple different components like
  226. 9:56red blood cells platelets uh plasma Etc
  227. 9:59that it gets separated into um red blood
  228. 10:03cells or packed red blood cells may be
  229. 10:05stored under Refrigeration for a maximum
  230. 10:07of 42 days so that's why you see we have
  231. 10:11those kind of time limits on that um
  232. 10:13autologus donation because that means we
  233. 10:16then we can only um refrigerate it for a
  234. 10:19maximum of 42 days and then after that
  235. 10:21the blood is not viable you would have
  236. 10:23to get rid of it um potentially on some
  237. 10:26rare units of blood they have some kind
  238. 10:28of special mark marker um or they're
  239. 10:31eradicated you may see those being
  240. 10:34frozen for up to 10 years so those are
  241. 10:36those are just when you have a rare unit
  242. 10:40of some type where they may be processed
  243. 10:42and
  244. 10:43Frozen um all blood is going to be
  245. 10:45tested for um HIV Hepatitis B hepatitis
  246. 10:49C human t- cell lymphotropic virus CMV
  247. 10:52and
  248. 10:53cilis um they use nucleic acid
  249. 10:56amplification testing also known as Gat
  250. 10:59Tes testing where you're identifying uh
  251. 11:01very low levels of um viral genetic
  252. 11:05material in that DNA um so you're able
  253. 11:09to find those very early and it shortens
  254. 11:12the window between the infection or the
  255. 11:15patient being exposed and us being able
  256. 11:17to identify it in the blood um it's much
  257. 11:20shorter than the older testing where
  258. 11:23they would look for
  259. 11:25antibodies um and then they also need to
  260. 11:28identify by the patient's blood type and
  261. 11:31Rh antigen um blood type is uh related
  262. 11:35to um what you inherit whether it's a or
  263. 11:39b or a b or o and we'll talk about that
  264. 11:41a little bit lower and then the RH
  265. 11:43antigen is just a protein that's found
  266. 11:45on your um surface of your red blood
  267. 11:48cells so if you have the antigen that's
  268. 11:51present then your RH positive but then
  269. 11:53some people just don't have it and
  270. 11:55they'll be Rh
  271. 11:56negative so then um
  272. 12:00when a patient's coming into a hospital
  273. 12:02and we're trying to
  274. 12:04identify uh potential blood units that
  275. 12:07would be compatible for them they'll do
  276. 12:08what's known as a type and screen so you
  277. 12:11identify the you take the patient's
  278. 12:13blood and you identify their blood type
  279. 12:15and Rh
  280. 12:17factor and then you would screen for um
  281. 12:20blood types RH factors in the donor
  282. 12:23units that would match that patient then
  283. 12:27when the patient is um we're needing to
  284. 12:31identify a unit that we can give them
  285. 12:33specifically so when we're actually
  286. 12:34going to be transfusing you'll take the
  287. 12:37patient's blood and you'll take the
  288. 12:39donor's blood and then you will mix them
  289. 12:42of course this is in lab we don't do
  290. 12:44this as nurses but this is what's
  291. 12:45happening in a type and cross match
  292. 12:47those blood get mixed together um in
  293. 12:50small quantities and then you can they
  294. 12:52identify if any kind of um hematologic
  295. 12:55reaction happens so we're looking for
  296. 12:57the absence of that so that that blood
  297. 13:00is
  298. 13:01compatible so this is the uh the
  299. 13:05compatibility is related to that blood
  300. 13:07group um when we talk about the blood
  301. 13:11group we're talking about what blood
  302. 13:14antigens they have so A and B are blood
  303. 13:18antigens so if you
  304. 13:21have um an A B blood type you have the
  305. 13:25antigens for both A and B if you don't
  306. 13:28if you have an o blood type you have no
  307. 13:31antigens um so it determines the type of
  308. 13:34antigens and then the antibodies are
  309. 13:36determined by um the antigens as well
  310. 13:39because if you have no um antigens
  311. 13:44you're going to have antibodies against
  312. 13:46blood given to you that does have it and
  313. 13:50I
  314. 13:50think yes we talk a little bit more
  315. 13:53specific
  316. 13:54here so uh with the antigens whether
  317. 13:59it's a b or A and B these are the
  318. 14:03substance that are going to cause
  319. 14:04formation of antibodies so antigens are
  320. 14:09what does my body have if you have the
  321. 14:13antigen you can give somebody the
  322. 14:15antigen because it's going to look the
  323. 14:16same as myself so we only can give
  324. 14:19ourself self substances but if I don't
  325. 14:24have the antigen and I give it to myself
  326. 14:26that's going to look foreign so if I
  327. 14:28don't if I have type O blood and
  328. 14:31somebody gives me an a antigen that's
  329. 14:33not going to be recognized as myself
  330. 14:35it's going to look foreign to my body so
  331. 14:38then if the body recognizes this as
  332. 14:41foreign the immune response is going to
  333. 14:43produce antibodies against it so then we
  334. 14:47have these
  335. 14:48antibodies that are going to develop in
  336. 14:50response to the present of an antigen
  337. 14:53that we don't have so you can have um a
  338. 14:57natural one or you you can have an
  339. 14:59antibody that formed after um your body
  340. 15:02has um something has gained access to
  341. 15:05the body and the body formed that
  342. 15:07antibody against
  343. 15:09it
  344. 15:10so if you have an antigen on the surface
  345. 15:13of the cell and you give it to somebody
  346. 15:15that has an antibody you're going to
  347. 15:17have this series of immune response and
  348. 15:20it's going to destroy those cells um so
  349. 15:24our body is going to fight that off
  350. 15:26because it's foreign so the basic princi
  351. 15:28principle of safe transfusion therapy is
  352. 15:31to avoid transfusing any antigens to a
  353. 15:34recipient having antibodies against that
  354. 15:37antigen because all it's going to do is
  355. 15:39cause our body to attack and so we're
  356. 15:42going to have this ongoing immune
  357. 15:43response and it's very
  358. 15:47dangerous um so then one of the process
  359. 15:50that we have we would have a glutenin
  360. 15:52process where that antibody um uh
  361. 15:56attacks the antigen and causes this
  362. 15:58clumping of
  363. 15:59antigens
  364. 16:01um the most significant one are going to
  365. 16:04be our blood group and type so there are
  366. 16:06other antibodies antigens that you may
  367. 16:08see in blood which is why we do the
  368. 16:09Cross Match but the most common and most
  369. 16:12specific ones that we see are going to
  370. 16:13be the antibodies or the antigens and so
  371. 16:16our blood group and
  372. 16:19type okay so this is kind of more
  373. 16:24information or kind of going over it
  374. 16:26again because it is very important
  375. 16:29um so people in each group are going to
  376. 16:32have a
  377. 16:33glutenous antibodies to the Red Cell
  378. 16:35antigen that they lack so if you have a
  379. 16:38patient that has type A blood they're
  380. 16:41going to have an A antigen that means
  381. 16:43myself is
  382. 16:45a um people who have B blood they have a
  383. 16:49b antigen if they have a and b they have
  384. 16:51an A and B antigen but if they have o
  385. 16:54they have
  386. 16:56none so if you're in TR group a
  387. 16:59if you give someone B they're going to
  388. 17:01have an antibody against that beef so
  389. 17:05they're going to have this a glutenin
  390. 17:06that happens because B is foreign they
  391. 17:10do not have that antigen if you have
  392. 17:13someone that has a b antigen but no a
  393. 17:17and then you give them a the same thing
  394. 17:19is going to happen their body is going
  395. 17:21to attack that a
  396. 17:22antigen if you have group A and B you
  397. 17:26have all of the antib IES so this is
  398. 17:30where you'll see um group AB positive
  399. 17:34having antibodies and the r factor being
  400. 17:38called the
  401. 17:40universal recipient because I can give
  402. 17:43them a I can give them b or I could give
  403. 17:45them o and it will not have any
  404. 17:47antibodies against it but if I have
  405. 17:50group O they're going to have both the a
  406. 17:53glutenin for a and b um so if I give
  407. 17:58them a b or AB blood they're going to
  408. 18:01attack that but you can see o does not
  409. 18:05have any antigens so you can give this
  410. 18:08to any body you can give an O blood to a
  411. 18:11b AB or o and if it's negative you can
  412. 18:16give it to patients that have a positive
  413. 18:18or negative Rh factor as
  414. 18:23well so if a person that has type O
  415. 18:26blood is transfused with blood from a
  416. 18:28person with a or b blood there would be
  417. 18:31destruction of the recipient spread
  418. 18:33blood cells since that A and B anti-a
  419. 18:37anti-b A glutenin would react with the A
  420. 18:40and the B and the donor cells so then we
  421. 18:42would start attacking those cells
  422. 18:44because it's now foreign so that's why
  423. 18:47once again AB Universal recipients o
  424. 18:50Universal
  425. 18:52donors so we're going back to the Rh
  426. 18:54factor because we kind of opened up with
  427. 18:57that but
  428. 18:59um we've already looked at blood Factor
  429. 19:01so a b AB if you have it then itself if
  430. 19:07you don't it's forign it's the same
  431. 19:09thing with the Rh factor so it's an
  432. 19:12antigenic substant in the red blood
  433. 19:13cells it's it's most common that you do
  434. 19:16have it but you can have a patient um
  435. 19:19that is negative where they don't have
  436. 19:20the factor so if they have it on their
  437. 19:22red blood cell it's positive if they
  438. 19:24don't it's negative if the blood is
  439. 19:27given to an RH negative were there RH
  440. 19:30positive we can see that red blood cell
  441. 19:33destruction and anemia happening um so
  442. 19:37if we're negative that RH is considered
  443. 19:40foreign so our body is going to attack
  444. 19:42that and so that's why you could only
  445. 19:45give positive to another positive client
  446. 19:48or you can give negative to a positive
  447. 19:50or negative
  448. 19:53client this is another compatibility
  449. 19:56chart this is super important that you
  450. 19:59understand how this works and you'll be
  451. 20:00able to identify this um once you know
  452. 20:03this is just another way of putting it
  453. 20:05where it's just charted
  454. 20:08out so here are some different blood
  455. 20:11components that you may see and why
  456. 20:13they're being used um packed red blood
  457. 20:15cells are the most common um thing that
  458. 20:19you'll be seeing use on the floor um is
  459. 20:22for symptomatic anemia or acute and
  460. 20:24chronic blood
  461. 20:26loss um fresh frozen plasma if you have
  462. 20:29a patient that has um a deficiency of
  463. 20:31the plasma coagulation factors or if you
  464. 20:34have a patient that's getting massive
  465. 20:36transfusions and we want to make sure
  466. 20:38that we're clotting um and then if you
  467. 20:40have patients that have a PT and INR
  468. 20:42that's way too high you may give ffp to
  469. 20:45decrease that and then we'll see it used
  470. 20:47in um DIC as well Granulos sites are
  471. 20:53given to patients that have
  472. 20:55neutropenia um with infections so that
  473. 20:58you they have um increased white blood
  474. 21:01cells in order to fight off the
  475. 21:03infections um so patients that have
  476. 21:06neutropenic illnesses or um are
  477. 21:10neutropenic related to other treatments
  478. 21:12such as chemotherapy may be receiving
  479. 21:14that um so
  480. 21:16abuin um may be given to expand the
  481. 21:19volume um because it can pull fluid in
  482. 21:23um to the um vascular space as well so
  483. 21:29when a crystalloid solution are just not
  484. 21:31AC adequate to expand the volume because
  485. 21:33we need to pull more fluid in you may
  486. 21:35see something like alumin used um there
  487. 21:38are albumin blood components there are
  488. 21:40actually um what I want to say
  489. 21:45um synthetic albumens that are available
  490. 21:48as well okay so now we're getting into
  491. 21:51the actual administration of the blood
  492. 21:53transfusions themselves so before you
  493. 21:57can administer blood the patient must
  494. 21:59have consented and there needs to be a
  495. 22:01signed informed consent on the chart um
  496. 22:05and then you also need to have
  497. 22:07documentation somewhere in the chart
  498. 22:09that indicates the transfusion purposes
  499. 22:11the reason you know if they have um if
  500. 22:14they're getting packed red blood cells
  501. 22:16what is their hemog globe and
  502. 22:17hematocrite level do we have that
  503. 22:19information
  504. 22:21available um you want to make sure that
  505. 22:24uh you assess the client's understanding
  506. 22:25of the procedure for instance if
  507. 22:27somebody has had multiple blood
  508. 22:29transfusion um you're not starting from
  509. 22:31square one if it's a brand new one they
  510. 22:33may not understand the purpose or
  511. 22:35anything that's happening so you may
  512. 22:37have to um you know be a little bit
  513. 22:42more I don't want to say more
  514. 22:44informative but you may have to provide
  515. 22:45more detailed instruction and you know
  516. 22:47make sure that they understand it um as
  517. 22:50well so you need to let the patient know
  518. 22:53about the procedure what components
  519. 22:55they're receiving what's the time
  520. 22:56involved what's the expected out outcome
  521. 22:59um and we talked about knowing the
  522. 23:01previous transfusions uh also did they
  523. 23:03have any potential symptoms or
  524. 23:05transfusion reactions because if they
  525. 23:07had a previous transfusion reaction
  526. 23:10they're going to be um at increased risk
  527. 23:12for having those reactions in the future
  528. 23:15also if they've had multiple
  529. 23:16transfusions that also increases the
  530. 23:19risk because if you think about the way
  531. 23:20that we get exposed to foreign
  532. 23:23substances in the
  533. 23:24antibodies our body can form those
  534. 23:27antibodies that can increase
  535. 23:28overexposure so that's also going to
  536. 23:30increase their risk you want to ensure
  537. 23:34the patient knows to report any unusual
  538. 23:36symptoms
  539. 23:39immediately um prior to starting the
  540. 23:43transfusion you need to have Baseline
  541. 23:45vitals taken and you're going to be
  542. 23:47obsessing obsessing assessing for any
  543. 23:49pre-transfusion abnormalities that could
  544. 23:51be confused to a reaction uh with a
  545. 23:54reaction so um if a patient's febrile we
  546. 23:58want to try to avoid transfusions with
  547. 24:00them if at all possible however
  548. 24:03sometimes we just have to transfuse them
  549. 24:07related to you know their um assessment
  550. 24:11and what's going on with the patient but
  551. 24:13um if a fever is over 10.4 we do try to
  552. 24:16avoid that because the fever can mask
  553. 24:19the symptoms um of an adverse reaction
  554. 24:22and it can also interfere with the
  555. 24:23desired effect of of the component
  556. 24:25itself because of that immune response
  557. 24:27that's happening
  558. 24:29um however it's not an absolute Contra
  559. 24:32indication for the needed transfusion
  560. 24:34because if the patient needs a
  561. 24:36transfusion um fever
  562. 24:39itself um is not going to is typically
  563. 24:42not going to stop us but will typically
  564. 24:45uh monitor that closely you want to
  565. 24:47premedicate clients um that
  566. 24:50need potential premedications
  567. 24:53prophylactic medications um with Tylenol
  568. 24:56if they have febr reactions padil if
  569. 24:59they have allergic reactions a lot of
  570. 25:00times you'll see a mix of both um and uh
  571. 25:05you want to make sure that you give it
  572. 25:06in plenty of time for it to uh take
  573. 25:08action before you start the transfusion
  574. 25:10you don't want to give it at the time
  575. 25:12you start the transfusion because it
  576. 25:13wouldn't be in the system yet so you
  577. 25:15want to give it a minimum of 30 minutes
  578. 25:18um and usually like a maximum of an
  579. 25:22hour
  580. 25:24so you need to start an IV if necessary
  581. 25:28Neary and this needs to be done before
  582. 25:31we get our blood because there'll be
  583. 25:33some specific details about how long we
  584. 25:35can have blood so that IV needs to be
  585. 25:38started before we go to get our blood um
  586. 25:40we'll have normal saline hung as the
  587. 25:43backup
  588. 25:44fluid that's the only fluid that can go
  589. 25:47in directly with blood components
  590. 25:49because other medications uh or other
  591. 25:52fluids may cause utenation or hysis or
  592. 25:55other unwanted effects um you'll see
  593. 25:57here D W can cause hemolysis um LR can
  594. 26:01cause some um blood clotting to
  595. 26:06occur okay so we talked about you need
  596. 26:08to get an IV started before you go and
  597. 26:11get your blood um but what size IV is um
  598. 26:16sometimes it's facility policy but as
  599. 26:18far as like the national guidelines go
  600. 26:21um 20 gauges often recommended an 18
  601. 26:24gauge or larger needs to be used if
  602. 26:26you're giving rapid transfusion
  603. 26:29and 22 gauge can be used uh if you can't
  604. 26:33obtain a larger um size of access um you
  605. 26:38will have a lot of facilities that don't
  606. 26:40allow 22 gauge access for blood
  607. 26:42transfusion but it isn't against um
  608. 26:45National recommendations but you would
  609. 26:47want to typically give the blood on a
  610. 26:49slower on the slower side because as it
  611. 26:53goes through you would have less damage
  612. 26:56or less risk of damage because of that
  613. 26:57small Gap gauge you want to have it
  614. 26:59slower um pediatric patients may have a
  615. 27:0223 gauge scalp um
  616. 27:06access and then anytime we're giving any
  617. 27:08other we need to give other medications
  618. 27:11at the same time we're giving the
  619. 27:12transfusion we're going to start another
  620. 27:15um IV site because you don't want to
  621. 27:17delay the blood or the other medications
  622. 27:21so most of the time when we're talking
  623. 27:23about the tubing and how you start it
  624. 27:25we're really kind of focusing on packed
  625. 27:27red blood cells because that's what
  626. 27:28you're going to see the most frequently
  627. 27:31um so I'm just going to kind of say um
  628. 27:33albumin or other components may have
  629. 27:35specialty filters or specialty sets that
  630. 27:38are a little bit different but by and
  631. 27:40far the sets that we're talking about um
  632. 27:43are what we see most commonly um so um
  633. 27:47all of our blood our PID blood cells are
  634. 27:49going to be um
  635. 27:51infused um in a IV set that includes an
  636. 27:55inline blood filter you don't need to
  637. 27:57know the pore size but it's going to be
  638. 27:59able to uh retain any clots that may
  639. 28:02have formed in the blood or any other
  640. 28:04debris that could be there to keep it
  641. 28:05from reaching the client so typically
  642. 28:07what we see is a Y type uh transfusion
  643. 28:11set and so you have one end that is um
  644. 28:14the normal saline which once again
  645. 28:16remember that's the only fluid that can
  646. 28:17be given with with or in the blood
  647. 28:20tubing um so on one side you have the
  648. 28:24normal sailing bag and then on the other
  649. 28:26side is where the blood train
  650. 28:28um blood component is going to be um
  651. 28:31straight lines when you have a patient
  652. 28:34that has like a major traumatic event
  653. 28:36you may see that straight line is being
  654. 28:38used for blood um if that's the only
  655. 28:42thing to be infused I have not seen this
  656. 28:45it's it's very uncommon but um I'm sure
  657. 28:48people that work ICU ER may be seeing
  658. 28:51this um more frequently um specialty
  659. 28:54sets we talked about that you may have
  660. 28:57for your different components you may
  661. 28:58have a a specialty set just for that
  662. 29:00component as
  663. 29:02well so this is what a y tubing would
  664. 29:05look like so um and you guys won't
  665. 29:08actually get to transfuse blood in
  666. 29:10nursing school but you'll get to see it
  667. 29:11transfused by nurses I'm sure at some
  668. 29:14point um so and you can assist and help
  669. 29:17you just can't be the person that's
  670. 29:19actually um responsible and and
  671. 29:22providing the the
  672. 29:24transfusion so first as you prime your
  673. 29:27tubing you're going to Prime first with
  674. 29:29your saline and you're going to make
  675. 29:32sure that you cover your um blood filter
  676. 29:35completely with that saling and then the
  677. 29:37saline will be then primed to the end of
  678. 29:40the tubing once you get your blood bag
  679. 29:44later um you're going to take that blood
  680. 29:47and you're going to prime it the same
  681. 29:48way so you're going to prime it all the
  682. 29:50way through make sure we cover the
  683. 29:51filter and go to the end of the um
  684. 29:54tubing so when we start the blood
  685. 29:56transfusion on the client we're starting
  686. 29:59with the blood actually going so we can
  687. 30:01watch for um you know how they
  688. 30:05respond and this up here will tell you
  689. 30:07um the things that you'll see on the
  690. 30:09blood bag by the way um you'll have the
  691. 30:11blood bag you'll have the RH type what
  692. 30:13what blood group they are there'll be an
  693. 30:15expiration day and then they'll have an
  694. 30:17ID number as
  695. 30:21well okay so there are some special
  696. 30:24devices that are sometimes used with
  697. 30:26blood um this up here the electrome
  698. 30:28mechanical infusion device that's a
  699. 30:30fancy way of saying a pump um an IV pump
  700. 30:33or transfusion pump um typically all of
  701. 30:36your IV pumps um are can be used um for
  702. 30:42transfusion they have to be approved by
  703. 30:45the manufacturer for blood transfusion
  704. 30:47and it needs to be documented somewhere
  705. 30:48which is typically just in the user
  706. 30:50manual um and then we also have an
  707. 30:53external pressure infusion cuff um and
  708. 30:56what this is is just for giving blood
  709. 30:59more rapidly so this Blood sits in this
  710. 31:02kind of like little pouch it kind of
  711. 31:04sits in there and then on the other side
  712. 31:06of the pouch you have this bag that
  713. 31:09fills with air and pushes on the blood
  714. 31:12um bag itself so it can squeeze it more
  715. 31:15quickly and you can give the blood more
  716. 31:18rapidly you only want to use cuffs that
  717. 31:20are designed for the blood transfusion
  718. 31:22so you don't want to wrap a blood
  719. 31:24pressure cuff around it or squeeze it
  720. 31:25with your hands you want to use the the
  721. 31:28cuff that's approved for that and then
  722. 31:30once you once again we're looking at
  723. 31:32rapidly so when we're using a rapid
  724. 31:35infusion remember that 18 or larger
  725. 31:38gauge needs to be
  726. 31:40used um also blood at sometimes may need
  727. 31:44to be warmed before it gets to the
  728. 31:47client Um this can decrease the risk of
  729. 31:50dysrhythmia and cardiac rest that can
  730. 31:52happen with rapid uh massive infusions
  731. 31:55of Cold Blood components
  732. 31:58uh neonates
  733. 32:00um have uh can have exchange transfusion
  734. 32:03and clo glutenin disease um if they're
  735. 32:07given um blood that's cold um it can
  736. 32:10prevent hypothermia and this is going to
  737. 32:12be the very young very old are going to
  738. 32:15be at greater risk for that of course um
  739. 32:18and then when you're administering
  740. 32:19several units of blood that's going to
  741. 32:21put patients at increased risk of
  742. 32:23hypothermia and these other risk factors
  743. 32:25that occur
  744. 32:28so uh blood is warmed in an improved
  745. 32:30inline warmer only so we're not warming
  746. 32:33the bag we're warming the line so as the
  747. 32:35blood moves through in this line it gets
  748. 32:38warmed up um so it's kind of like just
  749. 32:41the line fits in the certain area and it
  750. 32:44Heats it up as it moves through so kind
  751. 32:46of think of um oh the hot water heaters
  752. 32:50that are like the instant hot water
  753. 32:51heaters how those work is as the water
  754. 32:54moves through at a certain point it
  755. 32:55Heats it up and so it's the same way
  756. 32:57with blood it's just um a different type
  757. 33:01of device to do it um of course you only
  758. 33:04want to use the approved inline warmers
  759. 33:07so never hold the blood bag under hot
  760. 33:09water don't put them in a microwave
  761. 33:10don't put them in a hot water bath where
  762. 33:13you're trying to warm it up um if you
  763. 33:16have warmed blood and not used it it
  764. 33:18needs to be discarded honestly if you
  765. 33:20get to the point where you're in an
  766. 33:22inline blood warmer um you're going to
  767. 33:25need to discard it anyways cuz it's
  768. 33:27already going to be spiked
  769. 33:30um and then uh because of the rate that
  770. 33:35it can warm the blood you may have to
  771. 33:37give the blood itself at a slower rate
  772. 33:40in order to keep it
  773. 33:44warm if you have multiple blood
  774. 33:47components ordered so you know it may
  775. 33:51be two ffps and three prbcs it could
  776. 33:56have more or less
  777. 33:58um your physician should give you the
  778. 34:01order or you have to go by your
  779. 34:04institutional policy but if he doesn't
  780. 34:06give you the order you don't have a
  781. 34:07policy then that's something that you
  782. 34:09would clarify with your Physicians so
  783. 34:11they're responsible for deciding what
  784. 34:13order they want us to give them
  785. 34:17in okay so now we're ready to administer
  786. 34:21we've started RV we've primed it with
  787. 34:24normal saling uh we you know the
  788. 34:27patients already been typed and cross
  789. 34:28matched we have the order we've gotten
  790. 34:31the um originally we went ahead and got
  791. 34:35the
  792. 34:36um consent so that the client actually
  793. 34:40has consented before we we decide we're
  794. 34:42going to get blood so now we're at this
  795. 34:44point where we're like okay we need to
  796. 34:46go and get our blood
  797. 34:48so when you go to get your blood you
  798. 34:50want to double check with the person
  799. 34:51that issues the blood um whether it's
  800. 34:54the blood bank or the lab whoever is
  801. 34:57responsible for it that there needs to
  802. 34:58be the client's name the person who
  803. 35:01issued the blood is available uh the
  804. 35:03person who got the blood so that would
  805. 35:05be you if you're receiving it the date
  806. 35:07and the time that it was issued any
  807. 35:10verification numbers will be checked at
  808. 35:12that time so your patient identification
  809. 35:14versus um the patient that it's meant
  810. 35:18for versus um the identifications on the
  811. 35:20blood
  812. 35:21bag and there'll be a
  813. 35:23transfusion me uh copy that's issued by
  814. 35:26the bloodbank so you'll get actual
  815. 35:28paperwork with your blood tubing um
  816. 35:30whereas most of our things are kind of
  817. 35:32leaning electronic blood transfusions
  818. 35:35are almost always paper copies still you
  819. 35:38want to take that bag you want to look
  820. 35:40at it and make sure that there's no
  821. 35:42leaks that the color is appropriate you
  822. 35:44don't see cloudiness um you don't see
  823. 35:46any clots in the bag or any abnormal
  824. 35:48amounts of air if you do see those you
  825. 35:51need to be bringing it to the attention
  826. 35:53of the people in the blood bank before
  827. 35:55you accept the blood um you want to
  828. 35:58check the expiration date and time on
  829. 36:01the bag if you don't have a time on it
  830. 36:03it's it's midnight on the expiration
  831. 36:05date that's
  832. 36:09listed all right so you've gotten the
  833. 36:11blood you've checked it it looks good on
  834. 36:14that end and you want to come back in be
  835. 36:18before you start the blood you want to
  836. 36:20double check that Physician's order
  837. 36:21again you want to compare the blood
  838. 36:24group and the RH type from the patient
  839. 36:27um um into the bag you want to have
  840. 36:30another licensed person so another um
  841. 36:34nurse needs to look at the blood with
  842. 36:36you um and verify the patient
  843. 36:39identification and the
  844. 36:41documentation now if you have not
  845. 36:44personally checked blood even if every
  846. 36:46single nurse on the floor has seen that
  847. 36:49blood bag and checked it you do not want
  848. 36:51to hang it until you go through and
  849. 36:53check
  850. 36:54it you want to compare the name and the
  851. 36:56ID number on the bag to those on the ID
  852. 36:59band The Blood band for the
  853. 37:03patient um the transfusion form stays in
  854. 37:07the client's room the entire time
  855. 37:08they're receiving the uh transfusion and
  856. 37:12all the information on that form must be
  857. 37:14the same as what's on the blood bag and
  858. 37:18on the uh the
  859. 37:20blood the ID number on their band should
  860. 37:23be the same as on the transfusion form
  861. 37:25and then you also once again you want
  862. 37:27the patient to tell you their name
  863. 37:29you're not asking if they're Mr Smith
  864. 37:30it's the name and date of birth
  865. 37:34process so most of your transfusion
  866. 37:37reactions are going to be a result of
  867. 37:39errors in the client or component
  868. 37:42identification
  869. 37:44so this is going to be mean that maybe
  870. 37:48the lab identified the client in
  871. 37:51correctly they could have mixed up their
  872. 37:54blood when they went and they drew um
  873. 37:57two different people's blood at the same
  874. 37:59time and mix that up or maybe the blood
  875. 38:03bank identified something in correctly
  876. 38:07or you as the nurse did not identify
  877. 38:10something correctly so there's three
  878. 38:12different steps in this process for us
  879. 38:14all to identify it unfortunately if one
  880. 38:16of these areas breaks down it can cause
  881. 38:19problems for the rest of it but most of
  882. 38:21the times that we have like a severe
  883. 38:23transfusion reaction there's been an
  884. 38:25error somewhere somebody did not check
  885. 38:27something
  886. 38:31appropriately okay so something I should
  887. 38:33have mentioned earlier um you only have
  888. 38:3630 minutes from the time that you
  889. 38:37actually pick up the blood from the lab
  890. 38:40Blood Bank wherever you're getting it or
  891. 38:42they send it to you until the time that
  892. 38:45you can hang and administer it so that's
  893. 38:48a pretty short period of time um in
  894. 38:51nursing because so many things can
  895. 38:52happen that's why we want to have things
  896. 38:54prep before we go in the room you have
  897. 38:56the the saline hanging the TU being hung
  898. 39:00um prepped with the saline you've uh got
  899. 39:04the IV already started before we left so
  900. 39:06all these things are in place so that we
  901. 39:08can just start the blood when we get it
  902. 39:11um should have mentioned that early what
  903. 39:12I mentioned now 30 minutes from the time
  904. 39:14you get the blood until you can start
  905. 39:16the blood or else the the blood is no
  906. 39:18longer
  907. 39:19viable um when we're going through all
  908. 39:23the process before we administer it once
  909. 39:25again everything must match exact if it
  910. 39:28doesn't match exactly you cannot start
  911. 39:30the transfusion you need to contact the
  912. 39:32transfusion service immediately with
  913. 39:35those discrepancies so that we can
  914. 39:37identify um the issues as well um you
  915. 39:41want to uh sign that transfusion form
  916. 39:44and the person that verified the
  917. 39:45information with you must sign it as
  918. 39:47well and then when you go to start it
  919. 39:49within 30 minutes of getting it from the
  920. 39:51blood bank you need to document the date
  921. 39:53and time that you're starting it all the
  922. 39:56identification remains attached to the
  923. 39:58blood container until you are uh have
  924. 40:01completed the transfusion so all that
  925. 40:02stuff that you bring in stays in that
  926. 40:04patient room the whole time that they're
  927. 40:06receiving
  928. 40:07transfusion um the blood
  929. 40:10filter um and blood tubing can only stay
  930. 40:14up for either 4 hours or two units of
  931. 40:17blood whichever one comes sooner so if
  932. 40:19you are giving blood over 4 hours then
  933. 40:23the second unit you need a new tubing if
  934. 40:25you're giving blood over an hour a piece
  935. 40:28you would still need new tubing on the
  936. 40:30third unit even though it's only been up
  937. 40:31for 2 hours um blood itself each unit of
  938. 40:36blood cannot be hung for more than 4
  939. 40:39hours this includes that 30 minute time
  940. 40:41frame from getting the getting it from
  941. 40:43the blood bank so 4 hours from the time
  942. 40:47it leaves the blood bank's controlled
  943. 40:49temperature it must be transfused by
  944. 40:52that
  945. 40:53point um you do not want uh any
  946. 40:58medications added to the blood
  947. 41:00components or infused through the same
  948. 41:02line as the blood components the only
  949. 41:04thing that can go through the same line
  950. 41:05or come in contact with that is normal
  951. 41:08saline um and then um never ever hang
  952. 41:12anything that you've not personally
  953. 41:13checked I feel like we talked about that
  954. 41:15earlier but it's so important to
  955. 41:17remember that despite other people
  956. 41:19checking it we need to be the individual
  957. 41:21that does that because you will be the
  958. 41:22individual that's signing and
  959. 41:24responsible for saying it's been checked
  960. 41:31okay so um Administration guidelines uh
  961. 41:34as we're actually transfusing it we're
  962. 41:37going to initially start the transfusion
  963. 41:40um very slowly so about 2 Millers a
  964. 41:43minute for the F first 15 minutes um
  965. 41:46some people go a little bit faster it
  966. 41:48may be a little different with your
  967. 41:50organization but slow um because we're
  968. 41:54going to watch them for transfusion
  969. 41:56reactions and we're going to sit in
  970. 41:58their room for the first 15 minutes and
  971. 42:00watch them very closely and that is when
  972. 42:05most of our severe reactions are going
  973. 42:07to occur when we receive less than 50 Ms
  974. 42:11of
  975. 42:12blood so if we were to recognize a
  976. 42:16severe reaction or signs of a reaction
  977. 42:19we would be able to stop the blood and
  978. 42:21decrease the amount of blood that has
  979. 42:23actually gotten into the receivers um
  980. 42:27system so we're going to have a less or
  981. 42:31a um a decreased response because less
  982. 42:33blood to cause the response less blood
  983. 42:36to see the response um so you want to
  984. 42:39sit with them and it it's not like a law
  985. 42:42it's just a policy that I've never seen
  986. 42:44any other way you always want to sit
  987. 42:45with the client for the first 15 minutes
  988. 42:47of a transfusion um you're going to
  989. 42:49monitor them very closely during that
  990. 42:52first 15 minutes for any signs or
  991. 42:54symptoms of a reaction you're going to
  992. 42:57then take another set of vitals after 15
  993. 42:59minutes and compare it to the initial
  994. 43:01and you're going to observe them very
  995. 43:03closely throughout the
  996. 43:05transfusion
  997. 43:06um
  998. 43:10itself so you'll have a lot of different
  999. 43:12Vital Signs uh you have to repeat the
  1000. 43:14vital signs very frequently and you'll
  1001. 43:16compare each of those to the Baseline um
  1002. 43:19each facility is a little bit different
  1003. 43:21there's almost always after 15 minutes
  1004. 43:24um often you'll have 15 minutes for the
  1005. 43:26first hour or 15 minutes time 2 and then
  1006. 43:29q30 so it really just depends on your
  1007. 43:31facility and the policy that they have
  1008. 43:33in place um if we that initial uh Vital
  1009. 43:37sign is fine you'll go ahead and adjust
  1010. 43:39the flow to whatever the prescribed rate
  1011. 43:41is um and then as you continue you
  1012. 43:44follow those guidelines for your
  1013. 43:46facility and you record it in the
  1014. 43:48appropriate place on the permanent
  1015. 43:49record so you'll be recording their
  1016. 43:52vital signs for the um transfusion on
  1017. 43:56paper but you can also so put them in
  1018. 43:58the um electronic record as well after
  1019. 44:01the transfusion is done you want to
  1020. 44:03discard empty blood containers um as
  1021. 44:06Guided by the facility usually it's just
  1022. 44:08a hazard um trash um or some facilities
  1023. 44:12have you return it to the blood
  1024. 44:15bank um blood products can be stored in
  1025. 44:17the refrigerators or freezers only those
  1026. 44:20that are monitored by the transfusion
  1027. 44:22service once you get those blood
  1028. 44:24products you are not going to be able to
  1029. 44:27refrigerate them or keep them
  1030. 44:29um um from becoming um non-usable you
  1031. 44:34have to transfuse it within the 30
  1032. 44:36minutes that you get it and it needs to
  1033. 44:38be completed within 4 hours of that
  1034. 44:42time so never store the components in
  1035. 44:45the nursing unit or any unmonitored
  1036. 44:47refrigerator do not keep the blood out
  1037. 44:49of that monitored refrigerator for more
  1038. 44:52than 30 minutes before you start the
  1039. 44:54transfusion only monit or only warm
  1040. 44:56blood in a an approved blood warmer
  1041. 45:01nothing like an un monitored sink or
  1042. 45:03microwave do not administer any blood
  1043. 45:05components without a blood
  1044. 45:08filter this is just um kind of a list of
  1045. 45:12the procedure steps pre-procedure
  1046. 45:14procedure itself the post-procedure um
  1047. 45:17and this is actually provided to you a
  1048. 45:18little bit differently in another
  1049. 45:20document in your material as
  1050. 45:23well okay so there are several
  1051. 45:25transfusion reactions that you need to
  1052. 45:26watch out for if you administering um
  1053. 45:30blood um one that's very common is a
  1054. 45:32febril non-hemolytic reaction um this is
  1055. 45:36just an immune response that happens um
  1056. 45:39due to cytokines in donor's blood so
  1057. 45:42you're going to start seeing signs of
  1058. 45:44immune response and one of those
  1059. 45:46responses are going to be um
  1060. 45:49fever um an acute hemolytic reaction is
  1061. 45:52going to be typically we see this if we
  1062. 45:55have a Inc ability in the um blood
  1063. 45:59types so you're going to see the
  1064. 46:01recipient blood attacking the donor
  1065. 46:03blood um but there can be other um anti
  1066. 46:08antibody antigen mismatches that occur
  1067. 46:11as well but uh the most common by far is
  1068. 46:13the
  1069. 46:14incompatibility you can have a simple
  1070. 46:16allergic reaction where you have um a
  1071. 46:19hypers sensitivity to protein in the
  1072. 46:21donor's blood and then that can go as
  1073. 46:24far as an anaphylactic reaction where
  1074. 46:26you have
  1075. 46:27basically just that but much more severe
  1076. 46:30where we see the signs of
  1077. 46:32anaphylaxis um you can have a
  1078. 46:34transfusion Associated C circulatory
  1079. 46:37overload or taco this can happen when
  1080. 46:39you get um too much blood in your body
  1081. 46:43um so it's similar to heart failure
  1082. 46:46where you're going to see that our body
  1083. 46:48is just not able to handle this
  1084. 46:49increased circulation or circulatory
  1085. 46:52load um so the blood is kind of um
  1086. 46:55causing the ad and this inability for
  1087. 46:58our heart to pump effectively into to
  1088. 47:01rid of the excess um
  1089. 47:05fluid um it can happen relatively slowly
  1090. 47:09um a lot of times you'll have patients
  1091. 47:11that are going to be predisposed to this
  1092. 47:13related to their past history for
  1093. 47:15example if they have heart failure um
  1094. 47:18but it can happen several hours after
  1095. 47:19the transfusion stops because it just
  1096. 47:22happens due to our body's inability to
  1097. 47:25handle the extra volume
  1098. 47:27you can have a bacterial contamination
  1099. 47:30which can lead to bacteria and sepsis um
  1100. 47:33because you you've given them
  1101. 47:34contaminated blood and straight into
  1102. 47:36their Venus system um you can have a
  1103. 47:40transfusion related acute lung injury or
  1104. 47:43a trle related to uh just kind of this
  1105. 47:47um quick immune reaction that happens in
  1106. 47:50our pulmonary tissue um due to some um
  1107. 47:56reaction to the donor's antibodies um
  1108. 48:00and then it would cause like this um
  1109. 48:02pretty rapid onset of pulmonary
  1110. 48:05congestion and and
  1111. 48:07dmia you can have what's known as a
  1112. 48:09delayed hemolytic reaction um which can
  1113. 48:12happen when there is an antigen um or
  1114. 48:15foreign substance that gets reintroduced
  1115. 48:18into um blood this is going to be more
  1116. 48:20common in
  1117. 48:23um like patients that have had uh more
  1118. 48:26more frequent um blood transfusion there
  1119. 48:29are some some slides that are following
  1120. 48:31that will have a little bit more
  1121. 48:32specific information to know about the
  1122. 48:34transfusions but there are things that
  1123. 48:36you need to know um kind of overall what
  1124. 48:40happens when you have any suspected
  1125. 48:42transfusion reaction so the very first
  1126. 48:44thing with any single type of
  1127. 48:46transfusion reaction is you stop the
  1128. 48:48transfusion you stop the transfusion
  1129. 48:51you're going to take the tubing that the
  1130. 48:55patient has for the blood tubing you're
  1131. 48:58going to take that away and you're going
  1132. 49:00to change to a Brand New Bag and line
  1133. 49:04and you're going to piggy back normal
  1134. 49:05sailing into that line so you're going
  1135. 49:07to keep that normal sailing going so we
  1136. 49:09keep a port um open and available for
  1137. 49:14us um you're going to report those
  1138. 49:17reactions to both the physician and
  1139. 49:19transfusion Services you're going to go
  1140. 49:23through and do more clerical checks and
  1141. 49:25making sure that everything match the
  1142. 49:27numbers at the bedside the the blood bag
  1143. 49:29all the stuff gets checked again just
  1144. 49:31like it did at the beginning um you're
  1145. 49:34going to treat any kind of symptoms per
  1146. 49:36the physician order you're going to
  1147. 49:37monitor them very closely Vital Signs
  1148. 49:40and their uh hematological status as
  1149. 49:43well respiratory status as well you're
  1150. 49:45going to send the blood bag and any
  1151. 49:48Administration set and labels to the
  1152. 49:50transfusion services so that they have
  1153. 49:52the blood um there to um
  1154. 49:57view you're also going to collect a
  1155. 49:59blood and urine sample and send that to
  1156. 50:01lab which reminds me that I did not
  1157. 50:03mention before you start a blood
  1158. 50:05transfusion you want to make sure the
  1159. 50:06patient urinates because then when we
  1160. 50:09collect the blood and urine sample it's
  1161. 50:11it's fresh blood from after the
  1162. 50:13transfusion
  1163. 50:15um what labs need to be done will be
  1164. 50:18specific to each facility in their
  1165. 50:20policy and then you want to document
  1166. 50:22completely on the transfusion reaction
  1167. 50:24form and you want to document in the
  1168. 50:26patient's
  1169. 50:29chart so here are a little bit more of
  1170. 50:32the information for the different types
  1171. 50:34of reaction so with the FBR we have this
  1172. 50:38um cyto release from the um donor's
  1173. 50:42blood it causes this immune
  1174. 50:45response so the one thing that I really
  1175. 50:48need you to remember um is that they're
  1176. 50:51going to have an increase in temperature
  1177. 50:53so 1° C it's 1 8 F but um just remember
  1178. 50:59two for me and you will be fine um so 1
  1179. 51:02Celsius 2 fenhe and you are going to be
  1180. 51:04good uh typically you're going to see
  1181. 51:07this happen after they've had the
  1182. 51:09transfusion going for a while so that
  1183. 51:12timing can be kind of important so
  1184. 51:14you'll see a couple hours later is when
  1185. 51:17you actually start seeing um the
  1186. 51:19increase in the fever and then they have
  1187. 51:21things that kind of go along with the
  1188. 51:23fever so they may have chills headache
  1189. 51:25Flushing anx xiety and muscle pain kind
  1190. 51:28of some things that are present with
  1191. 51:29fevers but that temperature is what's
  1192. 51:32important
  1193. 51:35so most of the time you're not going to
  1194. 51:38restart the transfusion
  1195. 51:40and if you follow the recommendations
  1196. 51:43not starting the transfusion is what we
  1197. 51:45typically see um you're going to treat
  1198. 51:49the symptoms give
  1199. 51:50antipyretics um you're going to avoid of
  1200. 51:53course aspirin if they're
  1201. 51:54thrombocytopenic but
  1202. 51:57I want you to know that in practice this
  1203. 51:59of this sometimes does get restarted it
  1204. 52:02may be in the case of those patients
  1205. 52:04that we expect to see increased fevers
  1206. 52:06in such as pneumonia or um cellulitis or
  1207. 52:11somebody that has another infection
  1208. 52:13going on where they have been febr there
  1209. 52:16have been times where you will see the
  1210. 52:18physician go ahead and order the
  1211. 52:21restart um you don't have to worry about
  1212. 52:24the prevention on this
  1213. 52:26okay so for the acute
  1214. 52:28hemolytic uh reaction once again the
  1215. 52:30most common cause of this is going to be
  1216. 52:32an incompatibility so we've given a
  1217. 52:35patient blood with an antigen that they
  1218. 52:37don't have which made them uh form
  1219. 52:39antibodies and then they start attacking
  1220. 52:42the blood so then they lose the blood
  1221. 52:44they get rid of the blood in their
  1222. 52:46system attack it and then we start
  1223. 52:47seeing this uh vascular collapse and
  1224. 52:50decreased blood um and other issues that
  1225. 52:53are occurring so the patient can have
  1226. 52:55Tac card
  1227. 52:57um because they have less blood
  1228. 52:58hypotension vascular collapse can occur
  1229. 53:02um you can see um fever and chills in
  1230. 53:05these patients as well low back pain heo
  1231. 53:09hemoglobin Nua because of the breakdown
  1232. 53:11of the blood you start seeing that in
  1233. 53:12the urine um which is one of the reasons
  1234. 53:14why we would test
  1235. 53:16urine um patients can have bleeding
  1236. 53:19acute renal failure shock cardiac arrest
  1237. 53:22and death um so the you can kind of see
  1238. 53:26how these symptoms can go from bad to
  1239. 53:29worse so if we have less blood in the
  1240. 53:32system we're going to have less severe
  1241. 53:35responses so that's one of those reasons
  1242. 53:37why we got to watch so closely so um our
  1243. 53:40management for this we're really going
  1244. 53:42to be treating those
  1245. 53:44um symptoms and you also want to make
  1246. 53:48sure that you're not giving any blood
  1247. 53:49until they've done a complete new um
  1248. 53:52check on the patient and made sure that
  1249. 53:54everything is correct so so you would
  1250. 53:56never want to administer another um
  1251. 53:59blood product without redoing everything
  1252. 54:03CU at this point they're may have been
  1253. 54:04that error in the system that we talked
  1254. 54:06about um so a lot of it is going to be
  1255. 54:09maintaining urine flow maintaining their
  1256. 54:11um
  1257. 54:13vascular
  1258. 54:15um not structure maintaining uh V volume
  1259. 54:19maintaining their
  1260. 54:24volume so you can have allergies you can
  1261. 54:27have the mild allergies which is just
  1262. 54:28going to be that sensitivity due to a
  1263. 54:31protein in the the donor and this is
  1264. 54:33going to be what you think of when you
  1265. 54:34have an allergic reaction so flushing
  1266. 54:36itching ticaria or hives um in these
  1267. 54:40patients sometimes you would go ahead
  1268. 54:42and restart these transfusions if their
  1269. 54:45symptoms are mild enough after you give
  1270. 54:47them um an
  1271. 54:49antihistamine um if they're
  1272. 54:51mild you just have to give them that
  1273. 54:53give that time to set in and you restart
  1274. 54:55it slowly
  1275. 54:57um you have to get it over that 4 hours
  1276. 54:59but um you don't want to go quickly if
  1277. 55:03the patient can have a potential severe
  1278. 55:05allergic reaction um if patients have
  1279. 55:08had reactions in the past prophylactic
  1280. 55:10treatments are often
  1281. 55:14given um and then anif flaxes this it's
  1282. 55:16going to be that and just much more
  1283. 55:19severe so it's going to be like that
  1284. 55:20severe allergic reaction and we're it's
  1285. 55:22in our blood um you're going to start
  1286. 55:24seeing the the signs of the aniflex so
  1287. 55:27these patients are going to have
  1288. 55:29breathing problems wheezing anxiety
  1289. 55:32cyanosis um they're going to have that
  1290. 55:35itching and stuff that they would have
  1291. 55:36with um the regular reactions maybe have
  1292. 55:39hives as well um and this could progress
  1293. 55:42to shock and cardiac arrest so with
  1294. 55:44these patients an aaxis remember that's
  1295. 55:47very severe and a lot of times we're
  1296. 55:48looking at starting CPR and obviously
  1297. 55:51never restart those transfusions
  1298. 55:56um here's the taco or the transfusion
  1299. 55:59Associated circulatory overload so it's
  1300. 56:02just a fluid overload that happens
  1301. 56:03because of
  1302. 56:05transfusion and this is one of those
  1303. 56:07things that can happen up to six hours
  1304. 56:10after the transfusion so you could give
  1305. 56:13their unit or two units of blood and
  1306. 56:15then not see this for several hours so
  1307. 56:17you would have to kind of connect that
  1308. 56:18it is that fluid volume overload a lot
  1309. 56:21of times you'll have uh Physicians that
  1310. 56:23will prevent this by um either giving
  1311. 56:26smaller um they can give them a smaller
  1312. 56:30amounts uh separate the units into
  1313. 56:33smaller units or they'll give them like
  1314. 56:35a diuretic um after each unit or between
  1315. 56:38units just depending on the patient so
  1316. 56:40these patients are going to have what
  1317. 56:42looks like circulatory overload so they
  1318. 56:44have the cough the disia they'll have
  1319. 56:46some crackles and Pulmonary congestion
  1320. 56:48um headache hypertension tacac cardia
  1321. 56:51distended neck vein so it's all that
  1322. 56:53sign of that increased fluid um so when
  1323. 56:56we treat it it's going to treat it like
  1324. 56:58fluid overload so you're going to want
  1325. 56:59the patient
  1326. 57:00position uh head a bed elevated give
  1327. 57:03them diuretics as needed to help get rid
  1328. 57:05of the excess fluid oxygen morphine can
  1329. 57:08be used especially if you're having any
  1330. 57:10kind of um cardiac chest pain that's
  1331. 57:12really good for
  1332. 57:14that uh bacterial
  1333. 57:16contamination the blood's contaminated
  1334. 57:18so if you're going to give um a patient
  1335. 57:21blood that has that bacterial
  1336. 57:23contamination you're going to start
  1337. 57:24seeing these uh manifestations of
  1338. 57:26infection in in possibly sepsis where
  1339. 57:29you have the patient have chills fever
  1340. 57:32um moving into vomiting diarrhea um
  1341. 57:35marked hypotension and shock as they
  1342. 57:37move into sepsis um of course you guys
  1343. 57:40would want to or we would be sending the
  1344. 57:42blood bag anyways but we would expect a
  1345. 57:44culture uh to be taken and you would
  1346. 57:46treat it um just as you would other
  1347. 57:49infections so you'd have to give
  1348. 57:50antibiotics fluid vasopressors um
  1349. 57:53whatever medications to decrease or to
  1350. 57:55get rid of the um invading
  1351. 58:00organism um and then try so this is like
  1352. 58:03fluid volume overload but specifically
  1353. 58:05to our lungs and it's quick um so you'll
  1354. 58:09have the uh reaction that occurs that
  1355. 58:13causes this edema on our lungs it's very
  1356. 58:15abrupt the patient will suddenly have
  1357. 58:18severe dmia we can see hypoxia or
  1358. 58:21hypoxemia um hypotension because the
  1359. 58:24fluid is moving into the pulmonary space
  1360. 58:26and then the pulmonary edema so it's um
  1361. 58:30it's like some of the things you will
  1362. 58:33see kind of be similar to the fluid
  1363. 58:35overload itself but it's very abrupt and
  1364. 58:38it's pulmonary um centered uh so
  1365. 58:42aggressive support therapy oxygenation
  1366. 58:44ventilation head of bed all your
  1367. 58:46respiratory interventions are going to
  1368. 58:48be important
  1369. 58:50here so uh the delayed hemolytic uh can
  1370. 58:54happen
  1371. 58:563 to 14 days after a transfusion it's
  1372. 59:00just a delayed reaction um because of an
  1373. 59:04antibodies um Can attack uh donor blood
  1374. 59:09that's circulating um it's not as severe
  1375. 59:12as a an acute hinic reaction because we
  1376. 59:15won't have those circulating um blood
  1377. 59:17units as much um but because of the
  1378. 59:20breakdown of the blood we may see some
  1379. 59:22jaundice and decreased hematocrit and
  1380. 59:25then because it's causing that
  1381. 59:26inflammatory response we may see fever
  1382. 59:29as well um most of the time uh you're
  1383. 59:32just really watching them closely and um
  1384. 59:35making sure that they may not need
  1385. 59:37another transfusion and making sure that
  1386. 59:39they recover from it and then here are
  1387. 59:42the um some infectious things Hepatitis
  1388. 59:44B and hepatitis C and I think there
  1389. 59:46might be more in the next slide but the
  1390. 59:48whole point of those are you know
  1391. 59:51they're there they are risk so if a
  1392. 59:53patient scared of this you can't say
  1393. 59:55there's no risk R of these diseases
  1394. 59:57being transmitted um but they do check
  1395. 1:00:00for all of these infections and they use
  1396. 1:00:02that Gat testing which is very good at
  1397. 1:00:04identifying any small um viral uh DNA
  1398. 1:00:09that would be
  1399. 1:00:12present yes so here's some more um that
  1400. 1:00:15we're not really looking into but it's
  1401. 1:00:17just there for your
  1402. 1:00:18information so other risk that we might
  1403. 1:00:21see with patients that receive blood
  1404. 1:00:23transfusions um one thing that we see is
  1405. 1:00:25hyper IIA um blood the older the blood
  1406. 1:00:28is the the higher the risk because as
  1407. 1:00:30blood sits in is stored you're going to
  1408. 1:00:32see this breakdown of some of the cells
  1409. 1:00:34and as the cells break down because the
  1410. 1:00:36potassium's inside of the cells it's
  1411. 1:00:38going to release potassium out into the
  1412. 1:00:41plasma um and you can see here where it
  1413. 1:00:44says one day old we would see seven uh
  1414. 1:00:48mil equivalent per liter is where you
  1415. 1:00:49would see your uh potassium level
  1416. 1:00:52expected to be but if it's 21 days you
  1417. 1:00:54can have 2 3 mil equivalent per liter so
  1418. 1:00:58it's like giving patients some a little
  1419. 1:01:00bit of dose of potassium if we get high
  1420. 1:01:03so especially if you're going to have
  1421. 1:01:04multiple units that potassium level is
  1422. 1:01:06going to increase and the older the
  1423. 1:01:09blood itself itself is is the increase
  1424. 1:01:12risk as well um so if they're receiving
  1425. 1:01:14several units you need to measure their
  1426. 1:01:16potassium levels
  1427. 1:01:19frequently um you can also have
  1428. 1:01:22hypocalcemia um with patients especially
  1429. 1:01:24those receiving masses transfus fusions
  1430. 1:01:26because of the citrated blood can
  1431. 1:01:28combine with ionized calcium um and then
  1432. 1:01:32we will have hypocalcemia occurring um
  1433. 1:01:36if this actually should I believe be
  1434. 1:01:39five units so calcium gluconate is
  1435. 1:01:41frequently U ordered to be administered
  1436. 1:01:43every we'll say four to five units of
  1437. 1:01:46Bank blood you don't have to remember
  1438. 1:01:47the exact number but know that that's a
  1439. 1:01:49risk factor that hypocalcemia and
  1440. 1:01:52calcium gluconate may be ordered
  1441. 1:01:56um okay so now we're going the whole
  1442. 1:01:58component of red blood cells uh this is
  1443. 1:02:02whole blood so it includes all the red
  1444. 1:02:04blood cells the plasma um including the
  1445. 1:02:07plasma proteins clotting factor and then
  1446. 1:02:10they usually add an anti-coagulant
  1447. 1:02:12preservative to it um the volume is very
  1448. 1:02:15high where you will see this most
  1449. 1:02:19frequently or really almost always is
  1450. 1:02:21going to be when they have to expand the
  1451. 1:02:24volume and the um blood they need the
  1452. 1:02:27blood components quickly so you're
  1453. 1:02:29seeing in things like um severe trauma
  1454. 1:02:32and so forth because of the the volume
  1455. 1:02:35of it it's going to put patients at
  1456. 1:02:36higher risk for fluid volume overload so
  1457. 1:02:38you don't want to give it to patients
  1458. 1:02:39with like CHF um or other fluid overload
  1459. 1:02:44problems so pack red blood cells like I
  1460. 1:02:47said this is the one that we're going to
  1461. 1:02:48most commonly see um and given the
  1462. 1:02:52most so they take the red blood cells
  1463. 1:02:55from the um whole blood after the
  1464. 1:03:00donation um and this is going to uh
  1465. 1:03:03restore and maintain adequate organ
  1466. 1:03:04oxygenation you're going to see the
  1467. 1:03:06increase of hemoglobin and
  1468. 1:03:08hematocrit um it can be indicated for
  1469. 1:03:11anemia or anything that affects spread
  1470. 1:03:13blood cell production CLE cell anemia
  1471. 1:03:16blood loss um trauma or surgical blood
  1472. 1:03:19loss um and then sometimes we'll see in
  1473. 1:03:22chemotherapy because our body is not
  1474. 1:03:23producing the red blood cells um as
  1475. 1:03:26quickly or really it's dying off because
  1476. 1:03:28of the chemotherapy effects you'll see
  1477. 1:03:31that they need some pack red blood cells
  1478. 1:03:33to get their levels up um 42 days is how
  1479. 1:03:37long it can stay refrigerated and viable
  1480. 1:03:40unless it's one of those rare um blood
  1481. 1:03:42units that we see for up to 10 years
  1482. 1:03:44Frozen in a nonbleeding adult um one
  1483. 1:03:48unit of packed red blood cell should
  1484. 1:03:50increase the hematocrit by 3% and the
  1485. 1:03:53hemoglobin by 1 so if I had a hemoglobin
  1486. 1:03:57of 10 and I got four units of blood my
  1487. 1:04:00expected hemoglobin level would be 14
  1488. 1:04:03and you know there's going to always be
  1489. 1:04:05factors involved in that but that's what
  1490. 1:04:07you would expect to see
  1491. 1:04:11um we would see
  1492. 1:04:15um the transfusion would be given to
  1493. 1:04:19patients that are under a hemoglobin of
  1494. 1:04:21seven so the the number is very low now
  1495. 1:04:25so you have to get under seven um
  1496. 1:04:27hemoglobin level to get blood if we're
  1497. 1:04:31not looking at symptomatic you can see
  1498. 1:04:33it's um given in patients that are
  1499. 1:04:36symptomatic at an earlier time um under
  1500. 1:04:40eight is sometimes given for patients
  1501. 1:04:42that have certain chronic issues or
  1502. 1:04:44they're um receiving surgical but in
  1503. 1:04:47general if we're looking at no other
  1504. 1:04:50issues under seven we would expect a
  1505. 1:04:52transfusion
  1506. 1:04:57um uh fresh frozen plasma so fresh
  1507. 1:05:00frozen plasma is just really 91% water
  1508. 1:05:037% protein 2% carbohydrate it's frozen
  1509. 1:05:07when fresh which is why it's called
  1510. 1:05:09Fresh Frozen plasma within the 6 hours
  1511. 1:05:11of collection um you can use this to
  1512. 1:05:14incre CL increase clotting factors with
  1513. 1:05:16patients with a deficiency so if we're
  1514. 1:05:19looking at
  1515. 1:05:21um PT INR levels if they're very high
  1516. 1:05:24you can give them in
  1517. 1:05:27factors if they're over um
  1518. 1:05:31one oh if the if the pro time and PTT
  1519. 1:05:34are under 1.5 times normal ffp is
  1520. 1:05:37usually not indicated so they need to be
  1521. 1:05:39more elevated than that you do not want
  1522. 1:05:42to transfuse these for volume expansion
  1523. 1:05:46or nutrition or
  1524. 1:05:48prophylactically um for blood
  1525. 1:05:50transfusion or cabbage you're going to
  1526. 1:05:52give it when it's indicated which is
  1527. 1:05:54related to
  1528. 1:05:56um insufficient uh clotting factors elev
  1529. 1:06:01and elevated P T ptti and R
  1530. 1:06:05levels um so when you were given this
  1531. 1:06:08you would expect that the coagulation
  1532. 1:06:09function would be um improved and you
  1533. 1:06:12would be measuring it by PT PT or INR or
  1534. 1:06:16by a specific Factor assay if you were
  1535. 1:06:18looking at a missing clotting Factor um
  1536. 1:06:21you would Infuse this within two hours
  1537. 1:06:23of thawing
  1538. 1:06:25and over 30 to 60 minutes so it goes
  1539. 1:06:28quite a bit faster than a blood
  1540. 1:06:29transfusion usually
  1541. 1:06:31does platelets um are our next things
  1542. 1:06:34that we're looking at that's about 50 to
  1543. 1:06:3770 mls in each uh transfusion of
  1544. 1:06:40platelet rid plasma that came from that
  1545. 1:06:42when they got the fresh whole blood this
  1546. 1:06:44is um the plasma aspect um it is used to
  1547. 1:06:48control or prevent bleeding associated
  1548. 1:06:50with deficiencies in uh platelet numbers
  1549. 1:06:53or function and I believe that the
  1550. 1:06:56number for that is under
  1551. 1:06:5810,000 um if you if we're not looking at
  1552. 1:07:01symptomatic under
  1553. 1:07:0310, is where we would expect to see the
  1554. 1:07:06ffp um
  1555. 1:07:08administered um you may see it if we're
  1556. 1:07:11symptomatic much earlier than that and
  1557. 1:07:13you may see it if you see the signs of
  1558. 1:07:15bleeding like ptii gum bleeding ecosis
  1559. 1:07:19blood in the urine stool or once again
  1560. 1:07:22that low platelet count um would would
  1561. 1:07:25need to
  1562. 1:07:26be it would need to be low even if the
  1563. 1:07:29platelet even if we're bleeding
  1564. 1:07:31elsewhere
  1565. 1:07:35um once you uh have the blood the
  1566. 1:07:39platelets that are being processed you
  1567. 1:07:41need to use it within 4
  1568. 1:07:45hours so there are other components that
  1569. 1:07:48you may see um you don't see them quite
  1570. 1:07:50as often but they are components that
  1571. 1:07:54have been given
  1572. 1:07:55cryoprecipitate especially for factor 8
  1573. 1:07:58for
  1574. 1:07:59hemophilia um then you can have blood
  1575. 1:08:02products that are modified in one way or
  1576. 1:08:05another so like luccy por or radiated uh
  1577. 1:08:08red blood cells where you can reduce the
  1578. 1:08:10lucaites this would help a patient that
  1579. 1:08:13has um reactions because of um the donor
  1580. 1:08:18blood in their lucaites you can have
  1581. 1:08:22colloid Solutions uh albumin once again
  1582. 1:08:25you have the um human albumen or you can
  1583. 1:08:28have the synthetic albumen um now plasma
  1584. 1:08:31protein factors um you would use those
  1585. 1:08:34to provide
  1586. 1:08:37um volume expansion when we're not able
  1587. 1:08:40to get adequate volume expansion with
  1588. 1:08:42other with our IV fluids um so our whole
  1589. 1:08:45point of that would be to maintain the
  1590. 1:08:46blood pressure and the fluid volume in
  1591. 1:08:49order to maintain our U perfusion you
  1592. 1:08:52can have immune serum globulins that are
  1593. 1:08:54us used in a variety of different
  1594. 1:08:56treatments where uh we have
  1595. 1:09:00a concentrated aquous of gamma
  1596. 1:09:03globulin um containing a higher tighter
  1597. 1:09:07of antibodies so you're really providing
  1598. 1:09:10passive immune protections for clients
  1599. 1:09:13this was used a lot during the uh
  1600. 1:09:14covid-19 where you have the immune
  1601. 1:09:17globuline
  1602. 1:09:18infusions um and you can also treat
  1603. 1:09:21hypog gagl globin nmia
  1604. 1:09:26so really the most common issue that
  1605. 1:09:30comes up with blood transfusion has been
  1606. 1:09:34uh patients that don't want blood
  1607. 1:09:35transfusion for um one reason or the
  1608. 1:09:38other so the most common reason that
  1609. 1:09:40patients will refuse the blood
  1610. 1:09:42transfusion is it is against the
  1611. 1:09:44religious beliefs and the most common
  1612. 1:09:46time that we see that is a patient that
  1613. 1:09:47is a Jehovah's Witness because they do
  1614. 1:09:50not believe that they can receive blood
  1615. 1:09:52from um anyone other than from anyone
  1616. 1:09:57and still get into heaven so this this
  1617. 1:09:59is
  1618. 1:10:00um one of those things where you will
  1619. 1:10:04see some people refuse the uh
  1620. 1:10:07transfusion despite the fact that it may
  1621. 1:10:09be necessary uh for life-saving reasons
  1622. 1:10:13um but they have the right to refuse
  1623. 1:10:15that transfusion for themsel um they
  1624. 1:10:18just need to be completely educated on
  1625. 1:10:21the risk and benefits and um what would
  1626. 1:10:24happen if they War to take the
  1627. 1:10:26transfusion I will say some people tend
  1628. 1:10:28to change their minds when they realize
  1629. 1:10:30that um you know just how severe their
  1630. 1:10:32anemia has to be before they can get the
  1631. 1:10:35transfusion and then some patients you
  1632. 1:10:37know will kind of stand firm and then uh
  1633. 1:10:40they will look for alternate treatments
  1634. 1:10:42as well um and there'll be other things
  1635. 1:10:44that will come up um some patients
  1636. 1:10:47during the um or even now probably did
  1637. 1:10:52not want to take blood from donors if
  1638. 1:10:54they did not know whether they had or
  1639. 1:10:56hadn't had an immunization for covid um
  1640. 1:11:00and you know just regardless of your um
  1641. 1:11:04personal beliefs on that they do have
  1642. 1:11:06the right to refuse we just have to be
  1643. 1:11:09um you know we have to listen to them
  1644. 1:11:12understand that where they're coming
  1645. 1:11:14from and then provide them with all of
  1646. 1:11:16the facts that they need to make an
  1647. 1:11:18actual informed decision and then you
  1648. 1:11:20know in in the end that's that's their
  1649. 1:11:23own decision to make and I think that's
  1650. 1:11:26all I have for you

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