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0:00All
0:11right.
0:37All
0:50right, my bad. My bad. I'm back. I
0:52forgot I had I forgot I had to fix some
0:55[ __ ] on my computer, so the stream
0:57started to lag to lag, basically.
1:01[clears throat] So, anyways,
1:03back to what I was saying.
1:12back to what I was saying. I think we're
1:14going to actually uh break out of this
1:16range. I don't really expect um
1:19Asia and London and New York to all stay
1:21within the same 80 points.
1:25So,
1:27either we break out to the downside and
1:29potentially pop up or to the upside go
1:31down or maybe we just go in a straight
1:33direction. But
1:38I'm expecting some type of move though
1:41to be to be honest.
1:59I need to restart my uh ATS.
2:33All
2:45right, now it's back.
3:07All right. So, anyways,
3:11I'm expecting us to break out in a
3:13direction here with um
3:17with New York session.
3:20Again, I do want to see us the preferred
3:26path that I'd like price to take that I
3:28just I want. I don't know if it's going
3:30to happen or not, but I would like price
3:32to actually go lower first before we
3:34start going back up here to 127
3:3826,127
3:40and rebalance some of this move here.
3:42So, basically from here
3:46to here, those two swing swing low to
3:50swing high. I would like us to come a
3:52little bit deeper into here. um at least
3:54fill the gap
3:57here at like 26,000 before we
4:01kind of come back up.
4:04But it could just pump from here, but
4:07I that's what I would like to see at
4:09least. So,
4:14we're going to just have to wait and
4:16see. But I'm going to be trading I'm
4:18actually going to be copy trading
4:22these two accounts here.
4:28And I'm probably going to be using like
4:3010 to 20 micros.
4:34So basically one to two minis
4:37to try and um
4:41hit like 1500 on the day.
4:46So, we got like
4:49couple minutes until market open.
5:04But yeah, we're not going to be trading
5:05any funded accounts today cuz they're
5:08basically all locked up.
5:11The main goal for this week is just to
5:12try and pass more evaluation accounts.
5:16And we're in profit this month with the
5:18firms. So, we're going to use some of
5:20that profit to try and set ourselves up
5:22for next month so we can have a good
5:25start to the first to the first month of
5:27the year.
5:59Probably going to take this before
6:01market even opens.
6:16I'm tempted to try and go short here
6:19actually,
6:21but I have to wait.
6:27If we can take like London lows and then
6:29continue lower here headed towards 600,
6:31it would be ideal. But I just don't want
6:34to like enter in a short right here and
6:36then we just snap up.
6:40So, we're going to wait a second.
6:43We're going to wait for the market to
6:44open here in like 10 seconds. But
6:47realistically, [clears throat]
6:48this looks like it's about to open up
6:49and just melt. So,
6:53but I'm just going to have to basically
6:55watch it happen
7:04because I didn't want that to happen.
7:06Perfect. So, that's why we're going to
7:08wait because we don't want it to just
7:10rip like that.
7:13Although it may actually still snap
7:14down, but
7:33I'm actually going to probably
7:37depending on how the five minutes
7:40looking I may actually try and just go
7:42short.
7:48All right, I'm going to go short.
7:51And since
7:56we're going to have to put our stop like
7:58up here,
8:03actually,
8:09we'll put it at the top of this wick
8:10because I really don't want it to get
8:11past this wick. So, we might just take a
8:14$500 L.
8:17But I do want to see this fiveminute
8:19candle essentially fail to go higher and
8:22then
8:24close
8:26with [clears throat] a large wick to the
8:28upside. But we are taking it kind of
8:29premature. But
8:32it's an evaluation. So I I'm going to
8:34just try it.
8:46I thought that was kind of a shitty
8:47entry, but whatever.
9:18Yeah, we're going to get stopped out of
9:20this.
9:24And then if we do, we're just going to
9:26have to wait for a bit.
9:37Because realistically, if this
9:38fiveminute candle was going to flip, it
9:40should have already done it.
9:42It's kind of holding. So, it's going to
9:44close. It looks like it's going to
9:46actually close pretty bullish.
9:49And we got a pretty shitty entry. Like,
9:51realistically, the entry should have
9:53actually been in this area.
9:55So,
9:57basically like 20 points higher with a
10:00stop up here. But it's all right.
10:34I'm Actually surprised it didn't stop us
10:36out yet.
10:48But I still think it's going to stop us
10:50up.
10:52We're just going to have to let it ride.
11:03There's about a minute left in this
11:04fiveminute candle. If we can actually
11:06close on this 5 minute somewhere closer
11:09to the actual entry, there may be a
11:12chance, but probably not.
11:15Because what's probably going to happen
11:16right now is if we close up here or we
11:20close bullish, then
11:23we may actually go to attack the highs
11:25right now.
11:27I think.
11:58Yeah, we're gonna um
12:04if I don't get stopped out of this, I'm
12:05actually going to be pretty surprised
12:06because even if it comes down here, it
12:08might actually just be creating a wick
12:10down before it pops up to go higher.
12:39Sit down.
12:56All right. So, we got some sellers
12:57stepping in now. We're going to see if
12:59they can actually continue. And what we
13:02would basically be looking for is
13:05we don't want sellers to fail here.
13:07Otherwise, we're going to basically
13:09slingshot
13:10to the highs.
13:13Let me mark this out.
13:16was like 7:05 was the entry
13:26and I'm trying to take it to about where
13:29is this
13:31628.
13:45Yeah, it's kind of low. Um, once I once
13:48we actually take if we do end up taking
13:51London lows right now, what I'm going to
13:53do is or like London pre-market lows,
13:57what I'm going to do is actually move my
13:58stop to break even
14:10because basically I don't want it to
14:11wick down and then pop back up.
14:35But if we can get this uh 15minute
14:37candle to flip and close bearish in like
14:40the next
14:44like eight minutes or whatever.
14:47I think it'll be looking pretty good for
14:49what we're trying to get, but it still
14:51has a chance to
14:53still come all the way back up here
14:55basically.
15:06Since it's a evaluation, I'm willing to
15:09basically take the full loss
15:12on this um
15:15trade because
15:19I'm basically going to risk the entire
15:21draw down today if I if I'm going to. So
15:23So
15:26we got 2,000 of it. If we lose this
15:28trade, we'll lose like
15:31600 of it.
15:36We'll have 1,400 bucks to
15:39try and make it back.
16:02The only thing I'm thinking though right
16:04now is that realistically this wasn't a
16:07super large amount of sellers. But we do
16:10need to see like some type of
16:12continuation of selling pressure here.
16:16And we're not really getting it yet.
16:27But the moment we start blasting past
16:30this, cuz it should start picking up
16:32with speed once we start getting past
16:34this area. So, we're gonna have to move
16:37it to break even basically
16:41when it does take it
16:45because when it takes these lows right
16:47here, what I'd want to see is for
16:49another large seller to basically step
16:51in and then for speed to pick up towards
16:54the downside. Now that we have
16:58basically this 15minute is now flipping
17:01bearish.
17:08So technically we took it. So I am going
17:10to have to move my stop to break even
17:12though it may stop us out but it'll be
17:15like right above the PC of the previous
17:16fivem minute candle.
17:20[clears throat] But I'd be looking for
17:22this to actually just continue. I don't
17:23want it to just mess around right here.
17:27So, I'll take a break even on it and
17:29then we'll just have to wait for the uh
17:32next trade basically.
17:39Although, to be be completely honest, we
17:41got pretty lucky I didn't get stopped
17:43out of that. I think I was like
17:48couple dollars away from or a couple
17:51ticks away from actually getting stopped
17:52out of that trade because we had a
17:54shitty um
17:57we had a shitty entry.
18:01All right. So, I'm going to wait now.
18:20I'm actually interested to see how this
18:2515 minutes going to close.
18:39There's about 3 minutes left and the PSC
18:41of the 15-minute candle is all the way
18:43up here in the wick.
18:47So, it's still looking pretty bearish
18:48right now realistically.
19:14recorded on
19:16specialain.
19:35So what I'm thinking right now is for us
19:37to actually maintain
19:40some bearish momentum. I don't really
19:42want to see this 5m minute candle close
19:45or get above basically 50% of this this
19:50candle right here.
19:54because if it closes back up here, then
19:57it's we're basically just in like a
19:59whiplashing
20:01chop. But I do think we're probably
20:03going to actually target 650. Okay, so
20:11sellers try to step in again, but
20:14trying to see if we're going to have
20:16follow through. Realistically
20:22be targeting like 650 first.
20:33All right, I'm going to give it another
20:35attempt, but this stop loss is going to
20:37basically be
20:40right above the wick of this fivem
20:41minute candle. Oh [ __ ]
20:45Delete this.
20:47So,
20:49it needs to like continue and start to
20:52flush pretty aggressively
21:02because I do think it's going lower.
21:07Unless all of the selling pressure is
21:09just failing right here.
22:00All right. So, we're looking for this
22:02fiveminute candle to start having some
22:04aggression towards the
22:06downside, but
22:14there's like no follow through right
22:15now.
22:20PMI right now.
22:27Where do you see that?
22:30PMI.
22:41No, that's tomorrow, bro.
22:46We don't really have any news today
22:49other than the FOMC meeting minutes
22:52which is like
22:55oh we do have Chicago PMI today
23:01oh well it didn't really do it didn't
23:03really do anything because it's like an
23:04orange uh
23:07that's weird on my um
23:10on my like news thing it said that it
23:13was tomorrow and And literally as I was
23:16reading off FOMC meeting minutes, it
23:19just like populated the Chicago PMI for
23:22today.
23:26Gold's dumping. Let me take a look at
23:29it.
23:30Yeah, gold's going down. Probably
23:32silver's going down, too.
23:42All right.
23:44I need to start seeing some follow
23:46through with the selling pressure
23:49because it's really not that strong.
23:52Okay,
23:55the buyers just came in like super
23:57aggressively
24:00which was pretty nasty.
24:03So, we're down 500.
24:10What's up, Megie? move.
24:14Yeah. So, that was nasty. We were trying
24:15to see some follow through on uh on the
24:18sellers and then we just had large
24:21buyers just step in. This is the
24:23basically the largest order of the
24:24morning
24:27which ended up taking us out on our
24:30evaluation account.
24:37I'm actually going to sit here and wait
24:38for a second because
24:44this is kind of like a
24:49slower
24:51open where we're not really having
24:53follow through in a direction. We're
24:54kind of just
24:56like staying
24:59within this area.
25:04It's really not that big. It's like 60
25:06points.
25:24And if we're going to basically like
25:27stay in this area, if we don't just
25:29start shooting up right now to go target
25:31the highs
25:34and we just like flip back and we're
25:36like stuck here.
25:39I might not
25:42I might just actually wait until
25:47we see something happen.
25:50But what what but after these buyers
25:51step in like this like basically what
25:53you want to see is
25:56for this to be the catalyst or the
25:59initiation of a move to continue higher.
26:02So we want to continue to see buying
26:03pressure step in
26:07and then the target would realistically
26:09be like the nearest target are obviously
26:11like these relative equal highs right
26:12here. So like Asia and London session
26:16essentially
26:18that' be target number one. And it's
26:20like about 25 points away right here
26:22where all these orders are sitting
27:23All right, there we We go. So, we're
27:25taking the orders here at 750.
27:38And for this range right here, like this
27:41right around here is actually the value
27:43area high for the range. But I'm ex, it
27:47looks like we're actually about to just
27:48break through it.
29:12Yeah, we're kind of stalling out right
29:14here. I
29:16right at the uh value area high of this
29:18like
29:21of the range that was established.
30:43We're basically like
30:45not really going anywhere right now.
31:40Yeah, I'm going to just have to wait
31:42right now.
31:45We're going to wait for this uh we're
31:47going to wait for the uh 4 hour open
31:50realistically because
31:55every time both times now it looked like
31:57we were having um some aggression and
32:00then the moment we get to the edge of
32:02the range it like
32:04slowed down.
32:25All right. So, we just took London highs
32:27and um
32:35and the order sitting at 750. So,
32:40Next area would be the these highs 774
32:43another 25 points higher and then of
32:46course up here
32:52and 800 because it's a psychological
32:53number.
32:55So, I'm going to just wait for this
32:57fivem minute candle um and the next
33:00fivem minute candle, but Oh, whoops. We
33:03may just start ripping now. But
33:12we'll see what it does.
34:54Yeah, it's looking like the ultimate
34:56or where we're probably going to go if
34:58the buying pressure continues
35:01is New York session AM highs from
35:04yesterday when we opened up and pumped
35:06for a bit which is right around 820.
35:12So if this um
35:21this closes in like 2 minutes here and
35:25we get a retracement back on the
35:2715-minute candle towards
35:32probably around here like 740.
35:36I may try and go long.
35:39[clears throat]
35:44Unless we just open up on the new 1 hour
35:46candle and just start ripping higher.
35:47Then I'm just going to sit here and
35:50watch it happen. Basically,
36:46Oh, I guess we took that like just
36:48barely. early.
36:52All right, let's see how this Let's see
36:53how this is going to open up in 5
36:55minutes or 5 seconds or right now
36:58basically.
37:15You are
37:30you are
37:35you
37:53I kind of want to attempt a long
37:55position.
37:57Although,
37:59I think if I lose another trade, I'm
38:01probably just going to stop trading
38:02today.
38:17So basically right now where we're at on
38:19the 15minute candle is we're like right
38:21at the PC of it. So I'm seeing whether
38:23or not it's going to hold or if we're
38:26just going to blast through it right now
38:27and go lower.
38:37All right, I'm gonna
38:39try a long position here
38:44and I'm going to have to basically
38:48risk like
38:50five
38:53600 bucks.
38:56And then if we fall back into this range
38:58and stop me out and then we're just like
39:00right back in the middle of the range
39:02and I'm trying to basically have a
39:05continuation higher. I think I'm just
39:07going to stop trading. I'll be down like
39:13$1,000
39:16on these two EV valves.
39:20So we'll just we'll just save it for
39:23another day, honestly.
39:41This is the 15-minute chart I'm looking
39:43at right now. I would like to see us now
39:47basically
39:50fail to go lower. The PC stays down here
39:53and we start to flip bullish.
40:46But yeah, if we uh just snap back into
40:49this range, you know what? Today's just
40:52not my day. Nothing I can do about it.
40:57Try to take shorts.
41:00We had buyers step in and then buyers
41:03are stepping in and we're we're looking
41:04for the continuation up to like 820 825
41:08and if it doesn't want to do that and we
41:09just [ __ ] around in this range then
41:14I realistically just shouldn't be
41:16trading it
41:19and I'll just take the L on the evals
41:21and then we'll come back tomorrow and
41:23try and secure uh the payout for
41:27this account and get the first payout of
41:292026
41:31realistically
41:33because they won't pay me until January
42:31Should
42:41be like right Here.
43:16Sit down.
43:44Hley's
43:46looking nasty.
43:55What is gold doing?
44:12down.
44:14Here we
44:56All right.
44:58If it's going to take me out, just take
44:59me out already.
45:02I was a little worried about the there
45:04were orders sitting right here and then
45:05usually when we take orders we kind of
45:06snap through them. So I thought I was
45:08going to get going to get wicked out
45:09right now but we'll see if it can hold
45:12and start making its way back up.
45:18But it's really
45:22not looking the best to be honest.
45:44Yeah.
45:53Yeah.
46:35There's no sign of any type of buying
46:39pressure stepping in right here. So,
46:41it's like
46:43it's dead and now we're getting selling
46:45pressure. All right. So, look, we're
46:48down $1,000. We took two trades and got
46:52absolutely violated. Honestly,
46:56we tried to go short here and then we
46:59tried to go long over here. Just got
47:02wrecked.
47:04Realistically,
47:09we're we're just like inside of this
47:11range here. I was expecting us to make a
47:16move.
47:17So, like if we were going to go lower, I
47:19was expecting it to actually go lower.
47:21or if we were going to go higher. I was
47:23expecting us to actually like go higher,
47:25of course, and at least take like one of
47:27these significant swing points, but
47:31we aren't really having any
47:33followthrough or momentum with that.
47:36And I'm already down a,000 bucks on
47:39these two evals.
47:43Last night I did finish like half of
47:45this account, half of this account, half
47:47of this account, and then we're up 283
47:51on this account, down 360 on this
47:54account,
47:56and then
47:58yeah, took a L for a,000
48:02on the evals, but realistically like
48:07this is not really
48:10I feel like if I continue to trade this,
48:12right now
48:14and if we continue to basically range
48:17here
48:19I am going to
48:22get wrecked. So usually I would just
48:25risk the entire like when I trade
48:27evaluations I'll usually just risk the
48:29entire account for the day.
48:33Maybe we'll still do that just because
48:35why not? But
48:38there's really it's really like kind of
48:40slow right now.
48:44This range that we're in is not even
48:45that big.
48:49It's like 100 points.
48:52And we're about 41 minutes into the
48:55open.
49:15So, there's a chance that I'm just going
49:16to stop, but also I'm I'm going to sit
49:18here for a second
49:22and I'm going to wait to see if anything
49:23changes, but probably not. And we'll
49:26just take our L. We'll take our L on the
49:29day. Just come back. Some Sometimes it's
49:32like that. You just take a L.
49:40And obviously like the L's are going to
49:41be much bigger on a uh a valuation than
49:44it is going to be on a funded account
49:46because
49:48we're trading them pretty aggressively
49:49to just try and pass them in two days.
49:56But it just didn't go in the direction
49:58we thought it was going to go.
50:14But what I will say though,
50:16so far in the past like two weeks of
50:19streaming,
50:22we've been pretty on point. I probably
50:24say that today is probably like one of
50:25the first days where I was just like
50:28flat out wrong.
50:31And that's okay. I gotta
50:34just work on it.
51:37What I'm watching for right now is if
51:39we're actually going to go in a
51:41direction or if we're going to stay in
51:43this range right now when this five
51:46minute closes in 10 seconds or the 15
51:49minute opens up right
51:54If we're just going to stay in this
51:56range,
52:00I'll probably just
52:15All
52:26right, I'm going to try it
52:28one more time for us to try and target
52:32the lows. I'll probably actually
52:36What's it looking like?
52:42Probably just full port it.
52:48All right. I think I'm gonna
52:52I think I'm going to just full port
52:54this.
52:56Or where would it need to be? It need to
52:57be
53:02way up here.
53:19Yeah, it would need to be up here.
53:23Then
53:28721.
53:42Yeah, I'm getting cooked right now to be
53:43honest. But I wouldn't follow don't f
53:46don't follow any of my trades right now
53:47because I'm trading an eval. So, I'm
53:50just trying to full port it to finish
53:52half of it.
53:54And then if I blow it, I don't really
53:56care because I'm buying it with I'm
53:59buying these evals with profits from my
54:03payouts this this month.
54:07So, like I'm net positive by, you know,
54:11a few thousand dollar this month from
54:13money I spent on
54:16uh evals to how much I got in payouts.
54:21So, I'm net positive and I'm taking some
54:23of those profits and I'm just full
54:25porting evals basically trying to
54:31essentially
54:34get them to pass. But
54:38the problem is is like we tried at the
54:41open to go short. It snapped up. We
54:43tried to follow the the momentum with
54:46all this buying pressure. We try to
54:47follow it long and then it just
54:49basically died out.
54:51And then now here we are again at the
54:52bottom of the range which can very well
54:54just come right back up. Uh, and we're
54:58trying to anticipate a break lower,
54:59which is really, really not a good idea,
55:01especially when it looks like we're
55:03about range,
55:06but
55:09I'm just going to full port it
55:14and then target um
55:17just
55:21probably 625
55:45probably just going to add into it
55:47actually.
56:48If it hits our stop loss though, we're
56:50going to basically blow these two evals
56:54and then we'll just buy some more and do
56:56it again tomorrow. Well, actually
56:59tomorrow what I'm going to focus on is
57:01really actually not eval because I have
57:03that account I was showing this one.
57:07I do need to pull a pay out on this one
57:09so that at least like starting in
57:11January,
57:13I'm g start the month off net positive
57:15by like $1,400.
57:18So then I could buy more evals and not
57:21go net negative on the month
57:27or not. Yeah. Make sure that I can
57:29manage the funds so that I'm not net
57:31negative on the month basically like at
57:34any point during the month.
57:43And as long as we do that, we could just
57:45blow accounts. It doesn't matter to be
57:48honest. As long as
57:51we're net positive, that's all I care
57:53about.
58:04But what I think I'm going to have to do
58:06though is like
58:14I think it's probably not a good idea.
58:16Like I was thinking about this yesterday
58:18and I'm doing it here today, but
58:22it's probably not a good idea to full
58:26port the way that I full pour on a live
58:29stream because
58:32I understand that like
58:35there may be somebody watching the live
58:37stream that is actually trying to take
58:39their evaluation kind of seriously. And
58:43then I know that I say like don't follow
58:46my trades, but I know people just follow
58:48the trades anyways and these are not
58:51trades that you should ever be
58:53following. So,
58:56just because like I know that that's why
58:58people watch live streams, I'll probably
59:01stop fullporting on live stream and I'll
59:04probably just fullport on my own time.
59:07And then when I when I come here and I
59:10and I stream, I'll just focus only on
59:12funded accounts
59:14and take like trades that I would
59:16actually normally take with a funded
59:19account.
59:21I think that's probably
59:23the best thing to do just so that I
59:26don't like
59:29cause people to lose money, right?
59:35Especially if you don't really get
59:36payouts and you're still kind of
59:38learning and
59:41you should not be trading evaluations
59:43like how I'm trading in them. like
59:45you're just going to basically
59:48lose a bunch of money and then you don't
59:49if you're not getting payouts, you don't
59:51have a way to make any of it back. But
59:53the way that I the way that I think
59:54about it, right, is like
59:57let's say these evaluations were like
1:00:02I don't know 70, let's just say $80,
1:00:05right? No activation fee. So two of them
1:00:07is 160 bucks. So, like, let's say I blow
1:00:10both of these right now, which is
1:00:11probably what's going to happen. If I
1:00:13lose $160,
1:00:16but tomorrow I can take a payout
1:00:18probably for $1,400,
1:00:21then who gives a [ __ ] if I lost $160?
1:00:24It's just part of part of the way that I
1:00:28build up like funded accounts, right?
1:00:30But if you're not going to get a payout
1:00:33and you don't get payouts,
1:00:37then you shouldn't be full porting. Um,
1:00:43but the way that I trade evaluations is
1:00:45like super degenerate
1:00:47because I don't want to waste time on
1:00:50evaluations.
1:00:51It's to me it's honestly a waste of
1:00:53time. I'd rather just full port them and
1:00:55if I buy 10 of them and I blow like five
1:00:58of them and pass five of them, mission
1:01:00accomplished. I don't I don't really
1:01:02care. You know what I mean? But yeah, I
1:01:04think I'm probably though I think I'm
1:01:07probably going to stop uh doing that
1:01:09just because like
1:01:12or maybe we'll have a designated day.
1:01:13Maybe we'll have a full port Friday
1:01:15where we can just full port some evals
1:01:18at the end of the at the end of the
1:01:19week. But it's probably not a good idea
1:01:23just out of respect for everybody here
1:01:25and your guys' money to be blowing
1:01:27accounts like this and having
1:01:29potentially somebody follow it.
1:01:33Yeah, full porting is fine for an eval
1:01:35for me. That's what I think too because
1:01:37that's the only I don't that's the only
1:01:39way I trade evals is I basically
1:01:40fullport them. I'll give myself like two
1:01:42trades and if I lose two trades then
1:01:46um
1:01:48they're gone, you know.
1:01:56Damn, you still have old topstep
1:01:58accounts on trade of eight.
1:02:01Hey, respect for holding on to that.
1:02:05You must have been holding those funded
1:02:08accounts for like
1:02:12damn months.
1:02:16Impressive.
1:02:18So, props to you.
1:02:22All right, so let's let's since we're
1:02:25sitting here and it's a little early and
1:02:26I'm done, I'm not going to trade this
1:02:28anymore.
1:02:29Um Oh, using one or two micros. That's
1:02:32what's up. Yeah, I use um when it when
1:02:35I'm trading an evaluation, I'll usually
1:02:38use like
1:02:40sometimes I'll just use five minis,
1:02:43sometimes I'll use three minis or like
1:02:44I'll use one mini, but I'm but when I'm
1:02:48trading like a funded account, I'm
1:02:50really only using like five to 10 micros
1:02:52depending on what's going on or how much
1:02:54buffer I have.
1:02:57Like for example, this account, the way
1:03:01that I made like the 280,
1:03:04that was using micros, right? Like five
1:03:06micros.
1:03:09But yeah, 10 months is a super long time
1:03:11of holding on to a funded account. So
1:03:15good stuff. What are the what are the
1:03:18balance what's the balance on it?
1:03:35Oh [ __ ]
1:03:37All right. But I'm going to go over
1:03:41I'll tell you guys since it's the end of
1:03:43the month and I'm probably not going to
1:03:44buy any more accounts the end of the
1:03:48month. I'll go over basically how much I
1:03:51spent on evals and how much I've gotten
1:03:53in payouts for the month, right?
1:03:57And I write it down every month because
1:03:59like
1:04:01that's the whole point. Like sometimes
1:04:03you'll see people who are like, "Oh,
1:04:05look at me. I made like $5,000 in
1:04:08payouts or whatever, but maybe they
1:04:10spent like $6,000 on evaluations and
1:04:14fees for the month." So, they're
1:04:16actually net negative. So, it's not just
1:04:19about getting a payout, but it's it's
1:04:21more about like
1:04:24actually being net positive with firms
1:04:27because what we're doing, and I've
1:04:29talked about this before, but what we're
1:04:30doing is this is like a very gamified
1:04:33version of of trading, right? like you
1:04:36would never
1:04:39you would never trade a live account or
1:04:41manage your actual capital the way that
1:04:4599% of people except for me move I guess
1:04:4999% of people would trade a an
1:04:52evaluation and there's nothing wrong
1:04:54with that but it's just because that's
1:04:56the the game or whatever it is that
1:04:59we're basically playing right so the
1:05:02idea is like you're The these prop firms
1:05:06call you an analyst. And as an analyst,
1:05:08you have business expenses. And these
1:05:11business expenses are essentially
1:05:14evaluations and you know, Trading View
1:05:17or ATAS subscriptions or data
1:05:20subscriptions. Those are your business
1:05:21expenses. And then the payouts are the
1:05:24income. So, as long as obviously your
1:05:27business as an analyst is operating at a
1:05:30net positive income, meaning you have
1:05:33more income, then you have expenses,
1:05:36then you're fine. It doesn't matter if
1:05:38you blow like 10 accounts, 20 accounts,
1:05:4230 accounts in a month. It doesn't
1:05:44matter. As long as you're making money
1:05:46playing this type of game,
1:05:49realistically, that's all that matters.
1:05:51So,
1:05:53you would not trade a live account like
1:05:54that. But to give you an example of like
1:05:58what it looks like for me this month,
1:06:01and this month isn't like the best
1:06:02month, but it's not the worst month,
1:06:06um, is so far for this month, I think
1:06:10I've blown
1:06:13I have it right here, 12.
1:06:16I've blown 14 evaluations this month.
1:06:19Okay. And in those 14 evaluations I've
1:06:23spent with activation fees and
1:06:26evaluations and whatever, or actually my
1:06:29bad, I just blew these two accounts. So
1:06:30I blew 16 accounts this month.
1:06:34And uh with all of those fees, I've
1:06:37spent $2,200
1:06:40on evaluations. Okay, so valuations and
1:06:43fees for the month of December. Thrax
1:06:45trades has spent $2,200.
1:06:48Now, for payouts,
1:06:51payouts this month, I've received
1:06:55$4,800.
1:06:56Okay? So, if I've received $4,800,
1:07:00but I spent $2,200,
1:07:02then the net profit of that is going to
1:07:05be like $2,600. Okay? Now, of course,
1:07:10you got to account for like taxes and
1:07:12[ __ ] but at the end of the day, right,
1:07:18we're still net positive. So, yeah, we
1:07:20blew 16 accounts. Sure, we blew uh
1:07:24two grand in evaluation fees.
1:07:27Doesn't matter because the payouts cover
1:07:31all of that. And then at the end of the
1:07:33month, you end with money in your pocket
1:07:36and you go and then the goal would be
1:07:37that you go into next month with funded
1:07:41accounts so that you don't have to
1:07:44actually spend as much money. And this
1:07:47month with the evaluations, I actually
1:07:49did a lot worse. Like if we were to go
1:07:50look at
1:07:52like I'll tell you about um let's see
1:07:59like the last the last month, right?
1:08:02So the last month
1:08:07I spent
1:08:14$2,948
1:08:16on evaluations and fees to some people.
1:08:19Like if you're not making payouts and
1:08:20you spend three grand a month on evals,
1:08:23like oh my god, dude.
1:08:27Like that's terrible, right? But
1:08:31but I I made let me see 49.50 plus
1:08:371582 but I made $6,500 in payouts. So
1:08:42then if we take $6,532
1:08:45minus our cost
1:08:48of 29.48,
1:08:51it puts us at $3,500 net positive on the
1:08:54month before taxes, of course, gross
1:08:56net. So,
1:08:58it's really all that matters at the end
1:08:59of the day. And so, what I'm doing right
1:09:02now is actually
1:09:05for the month of December before I
1:09:07started buying these accounts and
1:09:08blowing them or whatever, I was actually
1:09:11net positive on the month about um
1:09:193,000 something like $3,200 for the
1:09:23month. But I'm trying to set myself up
1:09:25so that next month in January, I don't
1:09:29have to pay like
1:09:32$2,000 in fees and then I can only just
1:09:34focus on payouts, right? So that's why
1:09:36like I'll buy accounts like this one or
1:09:40this one or this one and or even this
1:09:43one that I blew, right? I'll buy all of
1:09:46those and I'll try and pass them using
1:09:48the profits from this month. So that
1:09:50going into next month, like for example,
1:09:52this account, right?
1:09:54Hopefully we pass some of those evals.
1:09:57Hopefully. I mean, I would I would
1:09:59assume we are going to pass at least one
1:10:01or two of them. So
1:10:03then going into next month, I'm going to
1:10:05have more funded accounts. I don't have
1:10:08to pay to get funded accounts for the
1:10:11month. And this account already has a
1:10:13balance on it. it's already 4 days in.
1:10:16So, if I make $200 or or $150 or more
1:10:20tomorrow or January 2nd, then
1:10:24immediately for the month of January
1:10:27with spending 0 on prop firms for the
1:10:30month of January,
1:10:32we're going to be in the green like for
1:10:35we'll just say $1,400, right? If we make
1:10:37150 or 200, we'll take out 50%. We'll be
1:10:40up like 1,400.
1:10:43then you can manage your expenses so
1:10:45that you know you never have to
1:10:48basically go net negative on the month.
1:10:51And then as long as you kind of just
1:10:53like follow that process of
1:10:58getting payouts, taking the profits from
1:11:01the payouts to try and get more funded
1:11:03accounts to then just making sure that
1:11:05no matter what, like you you're ending
1:11:07net positive on the month, then that's
1:11:10how you're going to end up like actually
1:11:13making money playing a prop firm game,
1:11:15right?
1:11:17So,
1:11:19but you can only do that though if you
1:11:22get payouts and you get payouts
1:11:24consistently. I'm not talking about you
1:11:26just get one payout and then you start
1:11:28trying to do that because in all reality
1:11:36Oh, the stream's [ __ ] up.
1:11:41All right, the stream's [ __ ] up, but
1:11:43we'll talk about it later. I'mma get
1:11:45off. I'll talk to you guys more about it
1:11:47next time.
1:11:49We blew two accounts today. It is what
1:11:51it is.

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