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  1. 0:22[snorts]
  2. 1:16All right,
  3. 1:17[clears throat]
  4. 1:19another day. Sorry I wasn't here Friday.
  5. 1:22I had some stuff come up,
  6. 1:26so I couldn't trade.
  7. 1:30Then we missed a crazy day on silver,
  8. 1:32which is wild, but
  9. 1:37it's all right.
  10. 1:56But today the goal is I'm going to be
  11. 1:59working on this EVO probably
  12. 2:02the market open.
  13. 2:04We're either going to hit profit target
  14. 2:06on it or we are going to blow it.
  15. 2:12The main priority this month is just
  16. 2:18basically building up more funded
  17. 2:20accounts. Last month for
  18. 2:24basically the whole month,
  19. 2:27we're just focusing on this one,
  20. 2:33but we're at the point now where we
  21. 2:35could just milk this account. So,
  22. 2:40we're going to trade with like my funded
  23. 2:42futures and alpha futures and top step,
  24. 2:47but just got to get more accounts.
  25. 2:51And this is on its fourth day, by the
  26. 2:53way. So, tomorrow if I can just catch
  27. 2:57another
  28. 2:59200 bucks,
  29. 3:01we'll start February with like a
  30. 3:04$5,000 request and then $4,500 after
  31. 3:08split.
  32. 3:11Romanian final boss.
  33. 3:15How the market hasn't even opened.
  34. 3:19Gota wait, bro.
  35. 3:31But to go over a little bit of um what
  36. 3:34I'm looking at. So
  37. 3:36before we actually gap down, I did say
  38. 3:40that I was looking at between uh 300 and
  39. 3:44250
  40. 3:46for us to basically bounce from this
  41. 3:48area.
  42. 3:50We kind of overshot it a little bit, but
  43. 3:52we did, you know, begin to bounce from
  44. 3:54it. So now what I'm kind of expecting is
  45. 3:57I'm expecting us to continue higher. At
  46. 3:59least the ultimate goal would be up here
  47. 4:04at
  48. 4:05647.
  49. 4:10Um, there is a chance that we come down
  50. 4:11off the open and then come up. And
  51. 4:14there's also the chance that we just
  52. 4:15open up and rip and take this
  53. 4:17immediately.
  54. 4:19But I will be looking basically for
  55. 4:21longs unless we start to get below
  56. 4:25like 270. Then at that point I'm going
  57. 4:28to be looking for us to take 180 and
  58. 4:30then come down into this area.
  59. 4:37But as of right now we're just going to
  60. 4:38have to wait.
  61. 4:48Let's see if you can see this.
  62. 4:52So, this is the area I marked out that I
  63. 4:56[clears throat] was looking for a
  64. 4:56reaction from this zone basically. So,
  65. 4:59we're kind of getting it here. Um, we're
  66. 5:02going to see if it continues. I
  67. 5:06could imagine something like this. Now,
  68. 5:10if this basically gets below this area,
  69. 5:13then I'm expecting it to continue down.
  70. 5:16So,
  71. 5:17it's kind of what I'm thinking for
  72. 5:19today.
  73. 5:28The Romanian final boss is short.
  74. 5:32Yeah, I'm going to wait till um market
  75. 5:35opens. I'm basically just gonna try and
  76. 5:37find an opportunity to
  77. 5:40essentially full port in Eval.
  78. 5:42I'm not going to trade my funded account
  79. 5:44today because
  80. 5:47there's no point.
  81. 5:56And last night we were trading silver
  82. 5:58and gold and um
  83. 6:02passed a few evals and then hit profit
  84. 6:05target on a couple more. So,
  85. 6:07we'll be working on those
  86. 6:11later, but as of right now, we are
  87. 6:14building the funded army. It's kind of
  88. 6:15the goal.
  89. 6:43What's up? Elevation error.
  90. 6:55We have manufacturing PMI today. Hold
  91. 6:58on. I got to set an alarm.
  92. 7:049:45 and 10:00 a.m. Eastern.
  93. 7:17What up, Richard?
  94. 7:20That's what's up.
  95. 7:26at us for five years already. That's
  96. 7:29crazy. Well, glad to have you here.
  97. 7:36Zo, what's Wealth Charts? Is that like
  98. 7:38their own platform after they left uh
  99. 7:43Project X?
  100. 7:48Yeah, I do trade gold. I trade gold and
  101. 7:50silver but only right now because it's
  102. 7:54um
  103. 7:57volatile so there's a lot of opportunity
  104. 7:59but um I only trade them during Asia
  105. 8:02session. I don't trade them usually
  106. 8:03during New York session
  107. 8:05unless something crazy is happening then
  108. 8:07I'll try but usually I don't.
  109. 8:12I've never tried wealth charts. Maybe
  110. 8:13I'll check it out.
  111. 8:26So, you're basically shorting to these
  112. 8:28lows here
  113. 8:33down here. Well, I hope it works out for
  114. 8:36you, bro.
  115. 8:52Ultimately for me the draw is higher on
  116. 8:54NQ.
  117. 8:56We may we may retrace.
  118. 8:59We may take these lows
  119. 9:02at the open
  120. 9:05then potentially these lows too. But
  121. 9:09I don't really want to see us, if I am
  122. 9:11going to remain bullish, I don't really
  123. 9:13want to see us get below this.
  124. 9:16So if we basically drop down, I'm
  125. 9:18expecting us to
  126. 9:23expecting us to bounce off there.
  127. 9:30Otherwise, we are going lower
  128. 9:33probably to at least here at least
  129. 9:3525,000 area.
  130. 9:41But I would like to see us
  131. 9:45take out these highs,
  132. 9:47Asia highs, and the highs that filled
  133. 9:50the gap.
  134. 9:52Whoops.
  135. 10:08Rocket Y 625.
  136. 10:18Why 625? And why not like the highs?
  137. 10:30Trent. Gotcha.
  138. 10:44that traders think NQ is overpriced
  139. 10:46right now.
  140. 10:48Um,
  141. 10:54I would I wouldn't necessarily say that.
  142. 10:56I mean, we've been in a range here for
  143. 11:00like
  144. 11:03a long time on the higher time frame and
  145. 11:06we broke out to the upside. We couldn't
  146. 11:09get past this area and then we started
  147. 11:10basically falling right back into the
  148. 11:13range and then we opened up this week in
  149. 11:15the very middle of this range
  150. 11:18and now we attacked the discount of this
  151. 11:20range and we're popping back up. So
  152. 11:26kind of expecting us to stay in this
  153. 11:28range a little bit a little longer at
  154. 11:31least.
  155. 11:37Good morning UCM guy.
  156. 12:04Yeah, that's kind of what I'm looking
  157. 12:05for, too. Rocket,
  158. 12:08>> I want to see us come up there. But, um,
  159. 12:12>> we may we may dump a little bit or pull
  160. 12:15back a little bit on the open, but that
  161. 12:17doesn't mean I'm going to be looking for
  162. 12:19it to come all the way back here.
  163. 12:23So, we'll see. We'll see what happens. I
  164. 12:25just need um
  165. 12:30I just need a decent opportunity to full
  166. 12:32port this evo
  167. 12:36if we blow it. Hey, happens.
  168. 12:41But we're going to try not to
  169. 12:50uh rocket basically like I just don't
  170. 12:53want to see it get below here. So, if we
  171. 12:57come down here and take these lows, I'll
  172. 12:59be watching to see if we start to flip
  173. 13:01at that point. If we continue even lower
  174. 13:04to take these lows and these lows, then
  175. 13:06I'm basically watching this area.
  176. 13:11I don't actually think it
  177. 13:14it probably won't get down here. It
  178. 13:17might, but it probably won't get down
  179. 13:19here. If we're actually going higher,
  180. 13:20we're probably going to stop somewhere
  181. 13:22around here if we come lower. and then
  182. 13:25we'll make our move higher.
  183. 13:27The only thing I don't really want to
  184. 13:29see though, to be honest, is I don't
  185. 13:31really want us to like open up right now
  186. 13:34and then just pump immediately and go
  187. 13:36take that cuz then I'm just going to
  188. 13:38miss that move. So, I kind of hope that
  189. 13:40doesn't happen,
  190. 13:43but it might
  191. 13:46if we just start smashing through this
  192. 13:48in 20 seconds. Jay Duran. Um, for your
  193. 13:51first express account, you should, if
  194. 13:53you're trading NQ,
  195. 13:56you should just be using like
  196. 13:59four micros.
  197. 14:01If it's your first ever Express account,
  198. 14:04three micros just like size. Yeah, two
  199. 14:08to four micros. Like size pretty small.
  200. 14:14All right. Well, there we go. That's
  201. 14:16kind of That's kind of what I didn't
  202. 14:18really want to see happen, but
  203. 14:21it's all right. I guess
  204. 14:28just opens up and runs straight to the
  205. 14:29draw.
  206. 14:31Damn it.
  207. 14:56Yeah, Rocket, we just touched 625.
  208. 15:04I'm expecting it to
  209. 15:07continue though.
  210. 15:10At least wick this
  211. 15:13wick this area.
  212. 15:29Yeah, Jay Durant, what Paigy said is
  213. 15:31right. Like, um,
  214. 15:35if it's your first funded account like
  215. 15:37ever, the goal should just be to try and
  216. 15:39not blow it
  217. 15:41over everything else. just like
  218. 15:45try and see how long you can make it
  219. 15:46last. Basically, it's going to get blown
  220. 15:49at some point, but you're going to just
  221. 15:51try and um
  222. 15:54not blow it in a single day. The worst
  223. 15:55thing you can do is on your first
  224. 15:57express account is to blow it on on the
  225. 15:59first day
  226. 16:02because then you're going to go back to
  227. 16:03eval porting evals and then you're going
  228. 16:05to basically waste a bunch of money.
  229. 16:13All right. So, we just took Asia highs.
  230. 16:15We'll see if we take uh
  231. 16:20took these highs. We're going to see if
  232. 16:21we take this now.
  233. 16:24[snorts]
  234. 16:26All right. So, we just took it out. So,
  235. 16:28basically the um plan I had this
  236. 16:31morning,
  237. 16:34the scenario that I said that I
  238. 16:36basically didn't want to see just
  239. 16:37immediately ran for 100 points.
  240. 16:40So, now we got to take a second and
  241. 16:44we're going to look at uh
  242. 16:49we're going to look at where we're at.
  243. 16:53Our bias was bullish, but
  244. 16:56opened it and give us an entry. We could
  245. 16:58have chased it, but I don't really want
  246. 17:00to do that.
  247. 17:07So now basically what I'm watching on
  248. 17:09the um
  249. 17:13what I'm watching for this hourly candle
  250. 17:15is if we are going to continue to push
  251. 17:16higher I would like to see this hourly
  252. 17:18candle close above the uh weekly opening
  253. 17:20gap.
  254. 17:26But we do have uh Red Folder news like
  255. 17:33at 9:45 Eastern and then 10:00 a.m.
  256. 17:36Eastern. So,
  257. 17:38we'll try and wait for a little bit a
  258. 17:41little bit of structure basically.
  259. 17:48But if we don't get it and it just just
  260. 17:51pumps, like there's nothing we could do
  261. 17:53about it, you know? If it just does one
  262. 17:55of these things where it kind of comes
  263. 17:57up and then
  264. 18:00does one of these days. Yeah, we're just
  265. 18:02going to basically watch that happen.
  266. 19:11I'm going to take a look at silver.
  267. 19:13for now.
  268. 19:26So, we're just kind of pumping up, but
  269. 19:28we can't really trade that.
  270. 19:55Happy
  271. 19:59birthday.
  272. 20:20But right now for NQ, I kind of just
  273. 20:22have to wait.
  274. 20:24It's just pumping.
  275. 20:39It's a massive pump off the open though.
  276. 20:42Damn.
  277. 20:46Not no retracement at all. Just
  278. 20:48immediately
  279. 20:51170 points.
  280. 20:53It's insane.
  281. 21:12The good news is is that we did pretty
  282. 21:15well during Asia session yesterday.
  283. 21:17So,
  284. 21:21if I don't get like a setup
  285. 21:24to try and trade,
  286. 21:27then
  287. 21:31we'll just wait till till Asia session
  288. 21:34on the commodities. Peace.
  289. 22:17Dude, did any of you guys catch this
  290. 22:19long? Did you just go long at the open?
  291. 22:24Thing's crazy.
  292. 22:56I mean, it happens. You know, sometimes
  293. 22:58you just have a plan.
  294. 23:01We had a plan and then it just
  295. 23:03immediately ran to the draw without
  296. 23:06an opportunity. Nice, Jayan.
  297. 23:10Nice.
  298. 23:18Yeah, you know, sometimes um especially
  299. 23:21when I'm trading evals, like if that
  300. 23:24happens sometimes, I'll usually just
  301. 23:26like
  302. 23:28because I only if I'm full porting a 50k
  303. 23:31account, I only need like, you know, 60
  304. 23:34to 100 ticks basically. I'll just chase
  305. 23:37that. But I didn't want to do that
  306. 23:39today.
  307. 23:42And I got to be careful especially
  308. 23:44trading top step because I don't want
  309. 23:46them to uh
  310. 23:50I don't want them to give me a second
  311. 23:52warning for
  312. 23:54the focus traders program. So, I'm
  313. 23:57trying to avoid like
  314. 24:00turnurning evals with them.
  315. 24:28Silver might turn around right There'll
  316. 24:41be
  317. 25:08What up, Duck?
  318. 25:16How's that Atlanta?
  319. 25:35Oh, nice.
  320. 26:19We have a red folder news in 3 minutes.
  321. 26:25It's probably not going to do a whole
  322. 26:26lot, but still it's just good to know.
  323. 27:05I want to see how the five minutes going
  324. 27:06to close.
  325. 27:09We're beginning to stall a little bit up
  326. 27:11here, but
  327. 27:17we may just like start blasting through
  328. 27:19this again.
  329. 27:23You are
  330. 27:43telling you
  331. 27:54What' silver do? Oh, it did turn around.
  332. 27:59Damn.
  333. 28:01Could have taken that.
  334. 28:11Yeah, Paigy, I was just looking at
  335. 28:12silver and I was contemplating whether
  336. 28:14or not I should trade I should trade it
  337. 28:16to go short, but I just usually don't
  338. 28:18trade silver during New York session.
  339. 28:29Yeah, those candles are pretty intense,
  340. 28:34especially for like a 50k account where
  341. 28:36you only got like $2,000 of draw down.
  342. 29:24And look at this thing.
  343. 29:56We're just kind of stalling right here.
  344. 29:57So, I'm just I'm going to wait till it
  345. 30:00does something
  346. 30:03for NQ.
  347. 30:05Although, we may just full port a silver
  348. 30:07trade to be completely honest.
  349. 30:40Is it? Well, it's not necessarily that I
  350. 30:42want to fullport uh bad today. It's just
  351. 30:45that's how I trade evals. I just full
  352. 30:47port them.
  353. 30:59I usually just like try and pass the
  354. 31:01eval on two trades and then you know
  355. 31:04maybe like 40% of them I'll just blow
  356. 31:05the account. But
  357. 31:10>> it's like who cares? It's an EVO.
  358. 31:15Even if I blow like 10 accounts,
  359. 31:18a single payout is gonna cover all of
  360. 31:20that plus profit.
  361. 31:24And I'm gonna take a payout tomorrow on
  362. 31:26this account. So
  363. 31:29immediately for the month, I'll be up
  364. 31:31like after the profit split, like $4,500
  365. 31:34before taxes. and then just gives me
  366. 31:37profit to use to basically just full
  367. 31:39port some meals cuz I got to um
  368. 31:46I got to just the the main goal is just
  369. 31:48to build up all the funded accounts this
  370. 31:50month because last month I just only had
  371. 31:52one basically this one and I fumbled
  372. 31:54like a couple of them that I had a
  373. 31:56decent balance in so I got to get back
  374. 31:58to that.
  375. 32:01Uh on the right side of the chart,
  376. 32:02Daniel, this is the dom.
  377. 32:05Hold on. I might go short real quick on
  378. 32:07NQ.
  379. 32:24All right, I'm gonna go um I'm gonna
  380. 32:28hope this doesn't snap back, but if it
  381. 32:29does, it's whatever.
  382. 32:32I'm gonna actually have to get out of
  383. 32:33this in a second. That was nasty.
  384. 32:38All right, I got to wait. I got to wait.
  385. 32:40We just got dusted for a thousand.
  386. 32:57Yeah, NQ's not pulling back. This is
  387. 32:59just going up.
  388. 33:44But if I uh I might take a trade on
  389. 33:46silver right now and I'm going to
  390. 33:47basically risk the rest of this account.
  391. 33:50And if I blow it,
  392. 33:54I'm going to buy another one.
  393. 34:47Yeah, that got blown.
  394. 34:51All right, going to buy another one.
  395. 34:54And then if I blow that one, I'm just
  396. 34:56going to stop for the day.
  397. 35:16Where is this thing at?
  398. 35:50So, also just a little bit of context,
  399. 35:52last night I passed four evals. So, and
  400. 35:55then and then I bought three more and
  401. 35:57hit profit target on three. So, we
  402. 35:58basically hit profit target on seven
  403. 36:00evals last night
  404. 36:03>> and then we just blew one. So, we're
  405. 36:06going to buy one more.
  406. 36:09if it loads.
  407. 36:15>> Oh my god. Great.
  408. 36:58Damn, Z, you blew your Lucid Funded.
  409. 37:01That sucks, dude. I hope you weren't uh
  410. 37:04following my trades
  411. 37:07because I'm just fullporting evals.
  412. 37:58Damn, this thing's taking forever to
  413. 38:00load.
  414. 38:29Dude, look at that pump.
  415. 38:47All right. Well, that's not loading. So,
  416. 38:49you know what? Must be a sign to stop
  417. 38:53while we're ahead
  418. 38:57for the day at least.
  419. 39:10Yeah, that was a nice that was a nice uh
  420. 39:13move up at the open.
  421. 39:36All right. So,
  422. 39:38basically,
  423. 39:40Topep isn't letting me buy another
  424. 39:42account.
  425. 39:45This is what I'm thinking right now.
  426. 39:50I passed two my Funded Future accounts
  427. 39:52yesterday
  428. 39:55and then I bought three more myfunded
  429. 39:57future evals.
  430. 40:00and then hit profit target on three of
  431. 40:02them, all three of them.
  432. 40:05And then I have two accounts with with
  433. 40:08Funded Futures Network that I also
  434. 40:10passed last night, but I have to flip a
  435. 40:12contract for like four more days. And
  436. 40:14then I'll get those funded accounts.
  437. 40:18And then
  438. 40:20I have this funded account right now
  439. 40:22where I don't really want to trade this
  440. 40:25at all. I already locked out of it
  441. 40:26because
  442. 40:28um tomorrow I just need one $200 day
  443. 40:32basically.
  444. 40:34And um
  445. 40:38I'm going to take a $5,000 payout from
  446. 40:40that.
  447. 40:46So
  448. 40:50basically this is what happened today.
  449. 40:54Pre-market
  450. 40:56pre-market I basically had a plan,
  451. 40:59right? Our plan was we go higher.
  452. 41:04Now I was expecting at least like a
  453. 41:07pullback first before we go higher so
  454. 41:09that I could try and enter into it, but
  455. 41:10we just like ripped off the open. Oh
  456. 41:15We just kind of like ripped off the
  457. 41:16open. Um,
  458. 41:20and then once we got up here, I
  459. 41:21basically just tried to force a short
  460. 41:22for no reason just to trade the EVO and
  461. 41:25then that got dusted. So then
  462. 41:29I just switched over to silver and then
  463. 41:30immediately got dusted. I I went short
  464. 41:32right here, but then it popped up first
  465. 41:36and then it came down.
  466. 41:40So we got wrecked. We got wrecked
  467. 41:45on that Evo.
  468. 41:48It's another one in the graveyard.
  469. 42:02So, I don't really have any accounts to
  470. 42:04trade right now cuz I they're all either
  471. 42:06locked out or
  472. 42:10or the last one I just blew it. So,
  473. 42:19where are you short from? Pocket.
  474. 42:35Oh, from right here. Damn.
  475. 42:4060 points of heat.
  476. 43:27Yeah, my top step is uh tweaking out
  477. 43:30right now. I can't buy any accounts.
  478. 43:43Oh, here we go.
  479. 43:52The rare news just came out. So, and the
  480. 43:554 hour candle.
  481. 43:57But guess what? Now we got a new fun new
  482. 43:59EVO.
  483. 44:04Damn, look at the wick on MNQ compared
  484. 44:06to uh NQ.
  485. 44:09It's nasty.
  486. 44:35Rocket, did you get out of that or are
  487. 44:37you still in it?
  488. 45:08All right. If I blow this account
  489. 45:10though, I have to stop
  490. 45:13because that'll then that'll be like
  491. 45:17two blown out of like seven evals
  492. 45:24or what is that? Four, five, six, seven,
  493. 45:26eight. Now this is the ninth eval of
  494. 45:29today.
  495. 45:37The goal is like within like a week I'm
  496. 45:40trying to have uh
  497. 45:42I'm trying to use the profits from my
  498. 45:43payouts and have like 10 funded
  499. 45:45accounts. I'm just going to copy trade
  500. 45:48all of them.
  501. 45:53707
  502. 47:44So on NQ, I don't really want to trade
  503. 47:45this area.
  504. 47:49I don't really want to
  505. 47:52touch this area right now.
  506. 49:00Yeah, right now it looks like uh Rocket
  507. 49:04were just doing the
  508. 49:08slow grind up.
  509. 49:10There's a lot of volume, but it's like
  510. 49:12not moving as quickly.
  511. 49:17Nice.
  512. 49:22Oh, it's all right.
  513. 50:03Trade of eight on the phone is crazy.
  514. 50:05Zo,
  515. 50:07it's already a terrible platform alone
  516. 50:10in my opinion. I don't like trade of
  517. 50:12eight,
  518. 50:13but I know that their uh
  519. 50:16platform on the phone is pretty
  520. 51:40Everybody
  521. 51:55was
  522. 52:00I may just save this Evo for tomorrow
  523. 52:03honestly
  524. 52:09>> because I'm looking at NQ. I don't like
  525. 52:12trading this type of price action. And
  526. 52:14then um I'm watching silver right now on
  527. 52:18this screen,
  528. 52:20but
  529. 52:22I don't really want to um
  530. 52:28trade it where it's at right now.
  531. 53:11All right. You know what? What I think
  532. 53:13I'm going to do is I think I'm just
  533. 53:14going to stop trading. Um
  534. 53:17I feel like with how with how this is
  535. 53:20moving right now on NQ and then
  536. 53:23silver. I'll probably end up actually
  537. 53:25blowing this other EV val if I try and
  538. 53:27trade it. So, I'd rather just wait for
  539. 53:32um
  540. 53:34some different price action. And then I
  541. 53:36have like a bunch of evals that are
  542. 53:38halfway done. I have like three of them
  543. 53:39that I got to focus on later today. And
  544. 53:42then the main goal though is it's the
  545. 53:45first day of the month,
  546. 53:48first tradeable day of the month, and I
  547. 53:50don't have a payout yet. So, I got to
  548. 53:52lock in this payout.
  549. 53:55I got to make sure I lock in this payout
  550. 53:57tomorrow. And as long as I lock it in,
  551. 54:00then that I'll be comfortable with full
  552. 54:02porting more eval. But probably a better
  553. 54:05idea if I just stop. So, recap,
  554. 54:09we had the analysis for the morning. we
  555. 54:11want to see it go higher. It immediately
  556. 54:14pumped, hit our target. At that point,
  557. 54:16it was basically like over with for me.
  558. 54:20And then I just tried to force a couple
  559. 54:22trades on the EVO, blew it in two
  560. 54:24trades, and then
  561. 54:27bought another EVO and didn't really
  562. 54:30trade it.
  563. 54:32And I'm not going to trade it. So,
  564. 54:36if you're going to continue to trade, be
  565. 54:37careful and good luck. And I'm just
  566. 54:39going to catch you guys tomorrow. We'll
  567. 54:41take our L, the one blown account during
  568. 54:43New York. The good thing is
  569. 54:47we passed four evals last night. We hit
  570. 54:49profit target on three of them. So, we
  571. 54:51did well on seven evals. We got dusted
  572. 54:56on one eval. It's not too bad of a
  573. 54:58ratio. I'll take it.
  574. 55:02All right. I'll catch you guys later.

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