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  1. 0:00I was stunned at how big your business
  2. 0:02empire is. You know, even as you're
  3. 0:03speaking there, you're talking about
  4. 0:04movies that I've watched that I had no
  5. 0:05idea that you're involved in and you're
  6. 0:06talking all these other incredible
  7. 0:08things you've done and yeah, your
  8. 0:09company's doing what what 12 billion
  9. 0:11dollars in revenue annually? Well, it's
  10. 0:13a group of companies, not just one.
  11. 0:14Group of companies, yeah. And then
  12. 0:15earlier on you said you'd spoken to
  13. 0:16these 50 very, very rich people in the
  14. 0:18pursuit of writing the books that you've
  15. 0:19written about wealth and finance and
  16. 0:21money.
  17. 0:23Pattern recognition.
  18. 0:24>> That's right.
  19. 0:25>> What is the pattern that you noticed in
  20. 0:28those people it that you then apply to
  21. 0:30yourself?
  22. 0:31What is the pattern? You know, this is
  23. 0:32called the diary of a CEO, so I'm sure
  24. 0:34we have a lot of people that are
  25. 0:35thinking about building businesses, want
  26. 0:36to get financially free, especially in a
  27. 0:38world of AI where they're they're very
  28. 0:39uncertain about how they'll make money
  29. 0:41and how they'll provide stability that
  30. 0:43to their family. What is the pattern
  31. 0:44that you have found in all of those
  32. 0:45people that you have met and
  33. 0:46interviewed? And I know you know some of
  34. 0:48the most wealthy people on earth because
  35. 0:50I know you coach a lot of them.
  36. 0:51I don't think people fully realize the
  37. 0:53significance of how many of the most
  38. 0:55influential people on planet earth you
  39. 0:57have worked with and continue to work
  40. 0:58with. Um I found it hilarious that Bill
  41. 1:02Clinton called you
  42. 1:05uh the day before he was going to be
  43. 1:07impeached telling you that he was going
  44. 1:08to be impeached and asking you what he
  45. 1:09should do.
  46. 1:10>> Yeah. First, let's say what everybody
  47. 1:12makes the mistake on, the majority of
  48. 1:13people. We live in a free enterprise
  49. 1:14system and we have kids that all think
  50. 1:16communism is great. I just want you to
  51. 1:18know, I went to the USSR when it was
  52. 1:20still the USSR. I was 24 years old. I
  53. 1:22was brought there because of my fire
  54. 1:23walking experience and I went on a train
  55. 1:25from from Moscow to Siberia and back for
  56. 1:28two weeks. On the train, we were all fed
  57. 1:31caviar and the most incredible meals as
  58. 1:33were all the Russians on the plane,
  59. 1:35right? We're supposed to be all equal,
  60. 1:37right? That's supposedly what communism
  61. 1:38is. It's everything's fair for
  62. 1:40everybody. Every single town we'd stop
  63. 1:42in the square where the there and in the
  64. 1:43square there's a big building and they
  65. 1:45they wrapped around for about maybe a
  66. 1:47quarter of a mile. People standing in
  67. 1:49the freezing cold to get a quarter of
  68. 1:51milk and a half of
  69. 1:53a thing of bread. I left there and I
  70. 1:55became a capitalist. I didn't know what
  71. 1:57a capitalist was, but I knew I wasn't a
  72. 1:58communist, right? So, people in our
  73. 2:00country are in the free enterprise
  74. 2:01system, but they don't understand it.
  75. 2:03So, what are they making the mistake of?
  76. 2:05They're consumers, they're not owners.
  77. 2:07We are a consumer society and we train
  78. 2:09these kids to be consumers, adults as
  79. 2:10well. So, I'll give you a simple
  80. 2:12example. I looked I was trying to give
  81. 2:14an example to a young kid the other day,
  82. 2:15so I actually did the math on it.
  83. 2:17You have an iPhone?
  84. 2:18>> Yeah.
  85. 2:19>> Okay, have you always had an iPhone?
  86. 2:20>> Well, yeah, for the last decade or more,
  87. 2:22yeah.
  88. 2:22>> All right. So, iPhone's around for what?
  89. 2:2418 years, 19 years? I went and did the
  90. 2:26numbers and found out what the cost was
  91. 2:28for every iPhone, added up. If you got
  92. 2:30an iPhone each time and somebody who's
  93. 2:32older than that, you spent 22,000 and
  94. 2:34some change at the retail price.
  95. 2:37If you bought the stock, I went and saw
  96. 2:38what the stock was on the same day that
  97. 2:40thing came out and you bought the stock.
  98. 2:41Same amount of money of the stock.
  99. 2:43>> Apple stock.
  100. 2:44>> Apple stock.
  101. 2:45$326,000 right now. Instead of out 22
  102. 2:48grand, you have 326. If you're going to
  103. 2:50use an Apple phone, I'm not saying it's
  104. 2:52Apple specific, I'm not making a
  105. 2:53recommendation, why would you not own
  106. 2:55the company?
  107. 2:56Right? Because we don't teach people to
  108. 2:58think that way and so now they think
  109. 2:59communism is going to be the answer.
  110. 3:00They don't understand what that really
  111. 3:02means. They have no clue. So, you have
  112. 3:04to become an owner.
  113. 3:06You have That's what you have to do.
  114. 3:07Then the second piece is, when I
  115. 3:09interviewed all these people, I found
  116. 3:10four things with them. I found number
  117. 3:12one, their focus didn't matter if they
  118. 3:14were a a macro trader or if they were
  119. 3:16value trader or didn't matter what their
  120. 3:18style was. The four things that they had
  121. 3:20in common, I call them the core four,
  122. 3:21was number one, they all
  123. 3:23were focused on not losing money.
  124. 3:26Most people are trying to make money.
  125. 3:28And the reason is they know, if you
  126. 3:30lose, you know,
  127. 3:31you you you lose you got a $100,000
  128. 3:33investment and you lose 50%.
  129. 3:36How much do you have to grow your money
  130. 3:38to get your money back? And people will
  131. 3:40say 50%. No, you got to grow it 100%.
  132. 3:43>> Mhm.
  133. 3:43>> Right? You get it?
  134. 3:44>> Yeah, yeah.
  135. 3:45>> Right? So, they know that. So, they're
  136. 3:46first making sure they don't How do they
  137. 3:48do that? They do it by asset allocation,
  138. 3:51right? They all have different asset
  139. 3:52allocation strategies, which at the most
  140. 3:54basic level is you don't put all your
  141. 3:56eggs in one basket. Most people put all
  142. 3:58their money in their business or their
  143. 3:59house, right? They
  144. 4:02know that that is the kiss of death. And
  145. 4:04so they look at how to divide their
  146. 4:06assets where they have a certain amount
  147. 4:08in more secure environment, meaning not
  148. 4:10a lot of upside, but it's like the nest
  149. 4:12egg, and they have some that are more at
  150. 4:13risk. And there's different And I
  151. 4:14learned what theirs are, and I taught
  152. 4:16those different ones. But the most
  153. 4:17valuable one I know you know, cuz I read
  154. 4:19it in your book. And I was really
  155. 4:20impressed. Asymmetrical risk reward.
  156. 4:23Their entire focus is not about taking
  157. 4:26risks. Like there's few Only a few
  158. 4:28people you think you're a billionaire
  159. 4:29cuz you took giant risks, right? No, no,
  160. 4:32no. May Some do, but they don't usually
  161. 4:34stay billionaires doing that, right? How
  162. 4:36do they do it? They figure out what's
  163. 4:38the smallest amount of risk with the
  164. 4:39most amount of upside that I can do. And
  165. 4:41so
  166. 4:43Paul Tudor Jones's approach was five to
  167. 4:45one. If I'm going to risk a dollar, I
  168. 4:47want to be certain I'm going to make
  169. 4:48five.
  170. 4:50You and I, most average people, would
  171. 4:51normally think I used to think, well,
  172. 4:5412, 15, 20% return, right?
  173. 4:56But here's how it works. If I risk $1
  174. 4:59and I'm certain I'm going to make five
  175. 5:00and I'm wrong, I'm down one. I can risk
  176. 5:02a dollar and still make four. I can be
  177. 5:04wrong four times out of five and still
  178. 5:05be okay.
  179. 5:07That's how those guys become
  180. 5:08billionaires. Asymmetrical risk reward.
  181. 5:10I was talking to a gentleman um who in
  182. 5:1419 like 2008, excuse me, he took $25
  183. 5:18million and turned it into $2 in the
  184. 5:20worst economic time. He anticipated
  185. 5:22[snorts]
  186. 5:23what was going to happen with the real
  187. 5:24estate. Everybody thought it was going
  188. 5:25to keep going up. He used synthetic bets
  189. 5:27and bet against it and made $2
  190. 5:29Brilliant, brilliant job. And I said to
  191. 5:32him,
  192. 5:33you know, what What is the things that's
  193. 5:35missing for investors? He goes, well,
  194. 5:37the smartest investors are usually the
  195. 5:39worst investors cuz they want absolute
  196. 5:41certainty. They know everything before
  197. 5:43they decide, and by that time the
  198. 5:44opportunity's gone.
  199. 5:45>> [clears throat]
  200. 5:46>> And he said, but the most important key
  201. 5:48for him is asymmetric risk reward." He
  202. 5:50said, "I risked I think he said he
  203. 5:52risked 6 cents for every dollar."
  204. 5:54He could have been wrong a dozen times,
  205. 5:57but he wasn't. That's how he did it,
  206. 5:58right? And then the fourth one is the
  207. 6:00obvious one we both know which is
  208. 6:01diversification, but this is the real
  209. 6:03key.
  210. 6:03You know Ray Dalio is, right?
  211. 6:05>> Yeah. Yeah, I've interviewed him
  212. 6:06actually.
  213. 6:06>> Yeah, so Ray's a good friend. One of the
  214. 6:08questions I asked him was, "If we had to
  215. 6:10reduce it to the single most important
  216. 6:12investment principle to know, I mean
  217. 6:14you're a the DaVinci of investing. No
  218. 6:16one has made more money than you in this
  219. 6:17area, you know." I said, "What is it? Is
  220. 6:20there one? There's got to be one." And
  221. 6:22he goes, "Tony, there is." He goes, "I
  222. 6:24spent almost 9 years refining this, and
  223. 6:27it's so simple. So the holy grail of
  224. 6:29investing is to find eight to 12
  225. 6:32uncorrelated investments that you feel
  226. 6:34strongly about. If you find eight to 12
  227. 6:37of those, you reduce your risk 80% and
  228. 6:40keep your upside. In fact, you slightly
  229. 6:42enhance your upside."
  230. 6:43>> Uncorrelated for somebody
  231. 6:44>> Uncorrelated. That's that's the hard
  232. 6:45part today, cuz so many markets are
  233. 6:47correlated.
  234. 6:48>> What does uncorrelated mean for someone
  235. 6:49like this?
  236. 6:49>> Well, for example, stocks and bonds
  237. 6:51traditionally are thought of as
  238. 6:52uncorrelated. Meaning, you know, stocks
  239. 6:56in a tough time, those are the ones
  240. 6:57Excuse me, in a growing time, stocks are
  241. 6:59where you put your money, but bonds are
  242. 7:01to protect you when the market goes
  243. 7:02down. Unfortunately, during most things
  244. 7:05like 2008 or 2020, they both go down at
  245. 7:07that time, but nobody talks about that,
  246. 7:09do they? They just go, "Oh, it's this
  247. 7:10weird thing." It happens regularly.
  248. 7:12>> So things that don't move together.
  249. 7:13>> That's right. They don't move together.
  250. 7:15Well, so much is tied together today.
  251. 7:16But the only way to really do it is
  252. 7:17you've got to have private investment,
  253. 7:19private equity, private credit, private
  254. 7:21real estate. You have to diversify
  255. 7:23beyond just stocks and bonds, and then
  256. 7:25you can get that across it by different
  257. 7:26industries, different elements, cuz
  258. 7:28think about this. This will blow your
  259. 7:29mind.
  260. 7:30Private equity, basic private equity,
  261. 7:32now I interviewed 12 of the best in the
  262. 7:34world. Basic private equity has
  263. 7:36outproduced every stock market in the
  264. 7:38world for 40 years. Every single stock
  265. 7:41market in the world every year for 40
  266. 7:42years. Now, you don't have total
  267. 7:45liquidity, that's you're giving
  268. 7:46something up, but your returns are in a
  269. 7:47different place. They don't have to sell
  270. 7:49when things are tough, they take
  271. 7:50advantage. These are the smartest people
  272. 7:51out there. They're not just trying to
  273. 7:52get alpha, they're building value,
  274. 7:55right? They take a company, they put AI
  275. 7:57in it, they bring new people to it, and
  276. 7:59then they take it to the public or in
  277. 8:01most cases they sell it to private
  278. 8:02companies. There's fewer public
  279. 8:04companies than ever. So, I looked it up
  280. 8:06and it was fan- fantastic see, the
  281. 8:08average S&P for 39 years was 9%. Nice
  282. 8:12return.
  283. 8:13If you put a million dollars down, you
  284. 8:15know, you'd have $28 million,
  285. 8:18you know, 39 years later without doing
  286. 8:20anything. But if you put it in basic
  287. 8:22private equity, basic private equity has
  288. 8:24averaged 15.7%.
  289. 8:28Think about the difference of
  290. 8:29compounding that every single year.
  291. 8:31>> Yeah, it's crazy.
  292. 8:31>> Now it's worth $328 million.
  293. 8:35That's the difference between the same
  294. 8:37investment in public versus private. So,
  295. 8:40it's finding these pieces, but when you
  296. 8:41can do eight to 12 uncorrelated
  297. 8:43investments or more, reduce your risk by
  298. 8:4680%. That's how you get higher returns
  299. 8:49and the same time because most people
  300. 8:50are behind. And so
  301. 8:51>> You You didn't come from a financial
  302. 8:53background.
  303. 8:53>> No, no, I have no financial background.
  304. 8:55>> You didn't study finance in university.
  305. 8:57>> No.
  306. 8:57>> So So, where did you learn all this
  307. 8:58stuff about finance?
  308. 8:59>> to the very best on Earth. Like why
  309. 9:01would I go to university to professors
  310. 9:02never done anything when I can go to 50
  311. 9:05of the smartest people on Earth or in
  312. 9:06private equity I went to 13 of the
  313. 9:08smartest ones, the most successful in
  314. 9:10history.
  315. 9:10>> Is your superpower learning?
  316. 9:12>> Yes, I think it's That's what I told I
  317. 9:14said to you from the beginning. That's
  318. 9:15what pattern recognition, pattern
  319. 9:16utilization, pattern creation is. If you
  320. 9:18don't learn at a rapid tempo in the
  321. 9:20world right now, you're cheating
  322. 9:21yourself of an extraordinary life.
  323. 9:23>> Is there a tactic or a strategy to make
  324. 9:25me a better learner, especially someone
  325. 9:26that does this podcast? I get to meet
  326. 9:27people like you, so I want to store
  327. 9:29everything
  328. 9:29>> Yes.
  329. 9:30>> in this time that we have.
  330. 9:31>> Yes, I I'm I believe in immersion and
  331. 9:33spaced repetition. So, I believe like
  332. 9:36Did Did you take a language in school?
  333. 9:38>> Oh god, yeah, German.
  334. 9:40>> Can you speak it?
  335. 9:41>> Nein.
  336. 9:42>> [laughter]
  337. 9:42>> That's right. So, most people go to
  338. 9:44college or high school and college and
  339. 9:46they take a language, right? And 5 years
  340. 9:48later, 10 years later, can't speak a
  341. 9:49word, right? Immersion is how you do it.
  342. 9:52So, if I wanted to teach you a language
  343. 9:54and you had the time and money, I would
  344. 9:55take you to Italy and I would drop you
  345. 9:57in the middle of Rome and say, "I'll see
  346. 9:59you in 90 days." With no one to teach
  347. 10:01you, in 90 days, are you going to be
  348. 10:02speaking the language?
  349. 10:04>> Better.
  350. 10:05>> You're you're going to speak the
  351. 10:06language. You're going to know the
  352. 10:07nuances of the language. You're going to
  353. 10:08have a pitch and tone that's more there
  354. 10:10cuz it's how you learned originally, by
  355. 10:11total immersion. So, the reason I do 12
  356. 10:14hours a day for 4 days,
  357. 10:1750 hours in a weekend or 60 hours and
  358. 10:19most people think, "I'll never do that."
  359. 10:21But, they have the time of their life.
  360. 10:21So, time disappears when you're enjoying
  361. 10:23yourself. And when you hate it, I mean,
  362. 10:24it feels like eternity. But, the reason
  363. 10:26I'm able to do that is that immersion is
  364. 10:28like years of experience and you're in a
  365. 10:30peak state while you're doing it. So,
  366. 10:32your memory because it's locked in, like
  367. 10:349:00
  368. 10:35as opposed to 8:00.
  369. 10:36So, I love that. The other thing that I
  370. 10:38do is I'm capturing I use AI now to do
  371. 10:40it. I've kept journals my whole life
  372. 10:42just like you looks like you've done.
  373. 10:43But, I'm building out but I have my AI
  374. 10:45that I've been feeding over and over and
  375. 10:47over again the things that I want it to
  376. 10:48remember, the principles and I create
  377. 10:50structures to evaluate these things.
  378. 10:53>> And I asked you there about how these
  379. 10:54wealthy investors make their money. Um
  380. 10:56the last question I really have around
  381. 10:58this is how the best entrepreneurs in
  382. 11:00the world make their money.
  383. 11:02Um again, we're called the Diary of a
  384. 11:03CEO. So, there's lots of entrepreneurs
  385. 11:04and build businesses builders watching.
  386. 11:05And I know you've worked with many of
  387. 11:07the world's top entrepreneurs. In fact,
  388. 11:09one of them wrote you a letter.
  389. 11:11>> Oh, which one?
  390. 11:13>> Marc Benioff.
  391. 11:14>> Oh, I love Marc.
  392. 11:15He's beautiful man.
  393. 11:16>> For anyone that doesn't know who Marc
  394. 11:17is,
  395. 11:18um he's the the founder CEO of
  396. 11:20Salesforce.
  397. 11:21>> Yes. Yeah, he actually came to four I
  398. 11:25think or five of my seminars originally
  399. 11:26in a row, same seminar. And you You
  400. 11:30Marc's a big as I am, he's a big guy and
  401. 11:32he was going for it full tilt. And
  402. 11:33finally, after the fourth one, he came
  403. 11:34up to me and said, "You've convinced me.
  404. 11:36I'm going to leave Oracle. I'm going to
  405. 11:38start my own business. I want you to
  406. 11:39come on the journey with me. It's called
  407. 11:41salesforce.com." He said, "We're going
  408. 11:42to change business around the world." He
  409. 11:43said this to me. He goes, "And I promise
  410. 11:45you we'll get to a hundred million
  411. 11:47dollars in business." Now, he's doing
  412. 11:48like 42 billion, right? So, but Mark's
  413. 11:51What I love about Mark is he's a
  414. 11:52contributor. He's He's a social CEO.
  415. 11:55Like, he's does things for society. He
  416. 11:57isn't just about himself. He's an
  417. 11:58extraordinary human being.
  418. 12:00>> He said, "Dear Tony,
  419. 12:02I'm so deeply grateful for everything
  420. 12:04that you have done for me over the last
  421. 12:06four decades."
  422. 12:08He talked about the seminars he'd been
  423. 12:09to with you and says that you've
  424. 12:10transformed his life through your
  425. 12:13inspiration and ideas.
  426. 12:15He talks about that particular seminar
  427. 12:16you referenced as the moment that led
  428. 12:17him to go deeper and deeper and deeper.
  429. 12:20He said, "It was at Date with Destiny
  430. 12:22that I made the firm decision to leave
  431. 12:23Oracle and start my own company.
  432. 12:25We even had a brief conversation about
  433. 12:27it back then, if you remember."
  434. 12:28>> remember.
  435. 12:29>> Fast forward 26 years, and Salesforce
  436. 12:32now has 80,000 employees and generates
  437. 12:35over 40 billion in revenue annually.
  438. 12:39It stands as the largest enterprise
  439. 12:41software company in the world.
  440. 12:43I truly could not have done it without
  441. 12:45you by my side.
  442. 12:47And as you always say, we often
  443. 12:49overestimate what we can do in 1 year,
  444. 12:51but we vastly underestimate what we can
  445. 12:53do in a few decades.
  446. 12:55Tony, I started this letter with
  447. 12:56gratitude, and I'll end it the same way.
  448. 12:58When I reached my most difficult
  449. 13:00moments, you were there. When I reached
  450. 13:02my highest heights, you were also there.
  451. 13:04I never [snorts] forgot that whenever I
  452. 13:06reached out for help, you returned the
  453. 13:09phone call or text always quickly.
  454. 13:12Business and politics are temporal, but
  455. 13:14relationships are eternal, and yours is
  456. 13:16one I carry with me always.
  457. 13:17Congratulations on everything you're
  458. 13:19doing.
  459. 13:20I look forward to a wonderful future
  460. 13:22with you. Aloha,
  461. 13:24Mark."
  462. 13:25>> That was very beautiful.
  463. 13:27That must be a little
  464. 13:28I just I love Mark. He's such a good man
  465. 13:30and
  466. 13:31um
  467. 13:33that's very kind of him to write that
  468. 13:34letter.
  469. 13:35He says he gives me more credit than I
  470. 13:37deserve.
  471. 13:38Um but I
  472. 13:39I love him personally. I love I I love
  473. 13:41strangers. I'm driven by that, but I
  474. 13:43love Mark cuz he's such a giver. I I see
  475. 13:45him as a
  476. 13:46a role model of what a great CEO is.
  477. 13:49Someone who understands the social
  478. 13:52impact of what they're doing as well as
  479. 13:53the business impact. Um he's got a heart
  480. 13:56of gold and of course we all have ups
  481. 13:57and downs throughout our lives and and
  482. 13:59he thinks he's just I just helped him.
  483. 14:01He's helped me, too. It's like it's
  484. 14:03never a one one-way piece. It's not like
  485. 14:05I go around and coach all these people.
  486. 14:06I'm no idiot. I've learned so much from
  487. 14:08Mark.
  488. 14:09Uh it's priceless. So I have to I have
  489. 14:11to send that thanks right back to him.
  490. 14:12No question about it.
  491. 14:13>> Where does that emotion come from that I
  492. 14:15see in your face?
  493. 14:17>> I [laughter] don't know. I was just like
  494. 14:20I'm I'm an emotional guy. I'm empathetic
  495. 14:22guy and I'm I'm a lover, you know?
  496. 14:24That's what drives all that I do.
  497. 14:26And to um see somebody I love and to see
  498. 14:28how far he's come and to know that um
  499. 14:31I've been able to be helpful to him at
  500. 14:33at key moments
  501. 14:35um is meaningful. You know, it's
  502. 14:36extremely meaningful cuz he's provided
  503. 14:39opportunities for
  504. 14:40millions of people, 80,000 employees,
  505. 14:43but millions of people through his
  506. 14:44creativity and his focus and
  507. 14:47we've done a lot of cool things
  508. 14:48together. I called him one time I was up
  509. 14:49in uh San Francisco for other business
  510. 14:52and um I read in the paper that the
  511. 14:55this landlord was kicking out these nuns
  512. 14:57who had the food kitchen in the the
  513. 14:59worst part of the city there, in the
  514. 15:01Tenderloin district. And I was like
  515. 15:03this guy's an idiot. I mean, I got to I
  516. 15:06got to do something. So instead of
  517. 15:07leaving, I spent an extra day and I went
  518. 15:08and met these nuns.
  519. 15:10Most incredible ladies and they were
  520. 15:12spending
  521. 15:14all their time cooking food so they
  522. 15:16could sell food so they could make money
  523. 15:17so they could actually prepare food for
  524. 15:19the homeless there. And in this tiny
  525. 15:21little building and they were getting
  526. 15:22kicked out. So I called the owner and I
  527. 15:24said listen, I'm on a lot of real estate
  528. 15:26also. I understand your rights as a real
  529. 15:28estate guy, but I said do you want to be
  530. 15:29the most hated guy in San Francisco? I
  531. 15:31said
  532. 15:33I'll give you an option. How about let
  533. 15:34them stay till the end of the year. I'll
  534. 15:36pay their lease. I'll pay twice the
  535. 15:38amount and then I'll get them out.
  536. 15:40I said but you don't push them out now
  537. 15:42on the street. So he agreed.
  538. 15:44And so then I said to ladies, let's find
  539. 15:46a place for you and I'll help you find a
  540. 15:48place. We'll rent a place for you. And I
  541. 15:50started getting phone calls and one of
  542. 15:52the phone calls I got since realtor he
  543. 15:53goes, "They're they're looking to buy a
  544. 15:55place."
  545. 15:56And I said
  546. 15:57I said well where they getting the
  547. 15:59money? I said they said I don't know. So
  548. 16:01I called the nun up and she goes
  549. 16:04I said, you know I was said I you know
  550. 16:05pay for a place for you guys for a year,
  551. 16:07you know, lease you a place. I said but
  552. 16:08I hear you looking to buy a place. Do
  553. 16:09you guys have some capital or I'm not
  554. 16:11aware of? And she goes
  555. 16:12"No." She goes, "God will provide,
  556. 16:15Tony."
  557. 16:16I said like God will provide. That's so
  558. 16:19So I spent I don't know a million two
  559. 16:21something like that to find them a
  560. 16:22place. But then I called Mark cuz I
  561. 16:24didn't want them living in the place. I
  562. 16:25said Mark match me on this. And I mean
  563. 16:28he didn't hesitate a second. He had not
  564. 16:30even met the nuns. Then he went and met
  565. 16:32the nuns. We went and met them and he
  566. 16:33went and he bought them a home for them
  567. 16:34to stay in. And and then we went through
  568. 16:36four years of the city trying to not let
  569. 16:38them take over this place. But that's
  570. 16:40kind of guy Mark is. So he's incredibly
  571. 16:42generous and I'm very touched that I
  572. 16:44could count him as a friend and be a
  573. 16:46helpful to him and he's been so helpful
  574. 16:47to me.
  575. 16:48>> I've learned quite a lot about you today
  576. 16:49just from observing you and two one of
  577. 16:51the big things that I've learned is the
  578. 16:53two moments where I've seen tears in
  579. 16:55your eyes
  580. 16:56have both been moments where people have
  581. 16:59expressed a huge amount of love and
  582. 17:00appreciation for you.
  583. 17:01>> That's true.
  584. 17:02>> And I I work back through your early
  585. 17:04earliest years and I I get it it's
  586. 17:06almost like a a jigsaw puzzle coming
  587. 17:08into formation in my mind of
  588. 17:10how how much you love love.
  589. 17:12>> I do. I think love is life.
  590. 17:14Love is the driving force in my life for
  591. 17:16sure. There's no question about it. And
  592. 17:18that's why
  593. 17:19I can't
  594. 17:21I hate to see suffering cuz it's the
  595. 17:22opposite of love. You know, if you love
  596. 17:23somebody, what do you do? Anything you
  597. 17:24can. So, that's what I'm called to do.
  598. 17:26And it is it's a calling. It's not a
  599. 17:28job. It's not a business. You know, I've
  600. 17:30all kinds of businesses, obviously, and
  601. 17:32I enjoy business. But this is my
  602. 17:34mission. This is what I'm made for. And
  603. 17:36um
  604. 17:37I'm just one guy there. I can't do
  605. 17:38everything, but I can do a lot. And I'm
  606. 17:40always figuring out how to scale more,
  607. 17:41right? You know, whether it's feeding
  608. 17:43people or
  609. 17:44I'm getting you know, my wife and I
  610. 17:46we're fortunate to have our own plane
  611. 17:47and I I don't want to just burn up a
  612. 17:49bunch of carbon. So, I found it's 3,000
  613. 17:50trees. So, I said, "Let's plant 100
  614. 17:52million trees." We're up to 75 million.
  615. 17:54I think we're going to hit the 100
  616. 17:55million this year. And but we didn't
  617. 17:56just plant the trees. We taught the
  618. 17:58farmers, worked with the organization
  619. 18:00about how to build a build a crop not
  620. 18:02once a year, but to do it across 12
  621. 18:04different months. So, that something
  622. 18:06drops out, they come out and they go
  623. 18:07from earning a dollar 25 a day and
  624. 18:09starving to making $12 a day, which
  625. 18:11doesn't sound like much, makes them rich
  626. 18:13in that community. So, we're doing that.
  627. 18:15I just I love taking things to scale,
  628. 18:17too. It's like
  629. 18:18I love the individual impact and I love
  630. 18:21the the global impact. The combination
  631. 18:23of the two make life ever challenging
  632. 18:25and ever exciting.
  633. 18:27>> With people like Mark and entrepreneurs,
  634. 18:28my last question about this pattern
  635. 18:30recognition and my last question is just
  636. 18:32as me as a you know, I'm I'm an
  637. 18:33entrepreneur and building businesses at
  638. 18:34the moment. I'm earlier in my journey,
  639. 18:36much earlier than someone like Mark. But
  640. 18:38what is the pattern that you've seen in
  641. 18:39these exceptional founders and
  642. 18:40entrepreneurs as it relates to building
  643. 18:42great businesses
  644. 18:43that you would impart on me?
  645. 18:45>> I don't think there's anything I'm going
  646. 18:46to impart on you that you don't already
  647. 18:47know cuz the fundamentals are so simple.
  648. 18:49Um you have to the business has to be
  649. 18:51more than a vehicle for money. And don't
  650. 18:53get me wrong. I mean, there are people
  651. 18:55who certainly succeed that way. But if
  652. 18:56you look at the people that build
  653. 18:57something that's lasting, it has to be a
  654. 19:00passion where you it's something you
  655. 19:01believe in so much, it's so valuable.
  656. 19:04It's a contribution sense to you, not
  657. 19:06just an economic sense. Cuz in the
  658. 19:08beginning of a business, it's like
  659. 19:09having a child, you know?
  660. 19:11You know, you don't get a lot back. You
  661. 19:12You work around the clock, you'll
  662. 19:14discover when your first child comes,
  663. 19:16and you love them. It's It's the pride
  664. 19:17of ownership. But, if you're just a lot
  665. 19:20of people start a business thinking
  666. 19:21they're going to get rich overnight or
  667. 19:22make some And those people never
  668. 19:23succeed. So, it's like finding something
  669. 19:26a vision that not only you believe in,
  670. 19:28but others are completely moved by cuz
  671. 19:30you can attract people. You can't build
  672. 19:32an organization without great people. I
  673. 19:34I mean, do you think I could run all
  674. 19:35these companies if I was just sitting
  675. 19:37there every day? I mean, I've got some
  676. 19:38of the greatest leaders I could possibly
  677. 19:40recruit. I'm constantly looking for the
  678. 19:41second part, which is how do I find
  679. 19:43leaders? How do I find leaders that are
  680. 19:45smarter than I am in various areas, and
  681. 19:47where I can pull together the right
  682. 19:49people together and create a culture
  683. 19:51that adds massive value and continually
  684. 19:53does so until it dominates the that
  685. 19:55industry or that market or that
  686. 19:57marketplace. So, I think you have to
  687. 20:00find something that's more than just a
  688. 20:01business for you. It has to be more than
  689. 20:03economics for you. It has to be a
  690. 20:04mission for the most successful people.
  691. 20:07You have to be able to have something
  692. 20:09you can articulate that can attract
  693. 20:11people, and you have to constantly find
  694. 20:13the very best that you can, and you got
  695. 20:15to constantly prune because the law of
  696. 20:17familiarity shows up. That's what your
  697. 20:19friends went through, right? They got
  698. 20:20all these great things, but now how
  699. 20:21great it is after a while, it's
  700. 20:22familiar. You know, it's like they don't
  701. 20:24they don't have the same hunger. I look
  702. 20:26for not only wickedly smart people,
  703. 20:28which I love, but hungry people. When
  704. 20:31people ask me like, "What is the one
  705. 20:33common denominator of people that
  706. 20:34succeed on a massive scale around the
  707. 20:36world?" I'd always in the beginning I'd
  708. 20:37say, "Well, I love wicked intelligence,
  709. 20:40but I know a lot of very smart people
  710. 20:41that I can't fight their way out of a
  711. 20:42paper bag in their relationship or their
  712. 20:44finances, you know, they're smart in one
  713. 20:45area and not another."
  714. 20:46But, the one that is absolutely
  715. 20:49completely accurate is hunger. The
  716. 20:51hunger to be more, to do more, to give
  717. 20:53more, to share more. Somebody who has a
  718. 20:54hunger that doesn't die. Not a hunger to
  719. 20:57get make a certain amount of money or a
  720. 20:58hunger to achieve, you know, a swimsuit
  721. 21:00size, but a hunger that's unquenchable.
  722. 21:04Those are the people that you know their
  723. 21:06names because they have an impact. So,
  724. 21:08it's like whether it's Richard Branson
  725. 21:09who's in his 70s, he's the same hunger
  726. 21:11today as when he was 16 years old in
  727. 21:13that crypt in your country coming up
  728. 21:15with Virgin, right? I mean, the same
  729. 21:17level, let's give it a go, right? He's
  730. 21:18got that piece, you know? Uh anybody you
  731. 21:20see, I mean, you know, look at the
  732. 21:22people you have on your show and think
  733. 21:23about how many of them still have that
  734. 21:24hunger. Kevin Hart, like he's a friend
  735. 21:26of mine, I know he's been on your show.
  736. 21:27I mean, he's one of the hardest working
  737. 21:29guys, but he's hungry. He loves it. He
  738. 21:30want He just wants to do it all. To me,
  739. 21:32that's the gift. And it's stoking your
  740. 21:34hunger or waking someone's hunger that
  741. 21:36doesn't have it. That's a real gift, and
  742. 21:38that's one of the gifts I think I've
  743. 21:40tried to refine within myself and help
  744. 21:41people with.
  745. 21:42>> If you love The Diary of a CEO, Brandon,
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