Billionaire Reveals BRUTAL Truth About Money — Transcript
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- 0:00I was stunned at how big your business
- 0:02empire is. You know, even as you're
- 0:03speaking there, you're talking about
- 0:04movies that I've watched that I had no
- 0:05idea that you're involved in and you're
- 0:06talking all these other incredible
- 0:08things you've done and yeah, your
- 0:09company's doing what what 12 billion
- 0:11dollars in revenue annually? Well, it's
- 0:13a group of companies, not just one.
- 0:14Group of companies, yeah. And then
- 0:15earlier on you said you'd spoken to
- 0:16these 50 very, very rich people in the
- 0:18pursuit of writing the books that you've
- 0:19written about wealth and finance and
- 0:21money.
- 0:23Pattern recognition.
- 0:24>> That's right.
- 0:25>> What is the pattern that you noticed in
- 0:28those people it that you then apply to
- 0:30yourself?
- 0:31What is the pattern? You know, this is
- 0:32called the diary of a CEO, so I'm sure
- 0:34we have a lot of people that are
- 0:35thinking about building businesses, want
- 0:36to get financially free, especially in a
- 0:38world of AI where they're they're very
- 0:39uncertain about how they'll make money
- 0:41and how they'll provide stability that
- 0:43to their family. What is the pattern
- 0:44that you have found in all of those
- 0:45people that you have met and
- 0:46interviewed? And I know you know some of
- 0:48the most wealthy people on earth because
- 0:50I know you coach a lot of them.
- 0:51I don't think people fully realize the
- 0:53significance of how many of the most
- 0:55influential people on planet earth you
- 0:57have worked with and continue to work
- 0:58with. Um I found it hilarious that Bill
- 1:02Clinton called you
- 1:05uh the day before he was going to be
- 1:07impeached telling you that he was going
- 1:08to be impeached and asking you what he
- 1:09should do.
- 1:10>> Yeah. First, let's say what everybody
- 1:12makes the mistake on, the majority of
- 1:13people. We live in a free enterprise
- 1:14system and we have kids that all think
- 1:16communism is great. I just want you to
- 1:18know, I went to the USSR when it was
- 1:20still the USSR. I was 24 years old. I
- 1:22was brought there because of my fire
- 1:23walking experience and I went on a train
- 1:25from from Moscow to Siberia and back for
- 1:28two weeks. On the train, we were all fed
- 1:31caviar and the most incredible meals as
- 1:33were all the Russians on the plane,
- 1:35right? We're supposed to be all equal,
- 1:37right? That's supposedly what communism
- 1:38is. It's everything's fair for
- 1:40everybody. Every single town we'd stop
- 1:42in the square where the there and in the
- 1:43square there's a big building and they
- 1:45they wrapped around for about maybe a
- 1:47quarter of a mile. People standing in
- 1:49the freezing cold to get a quarter of
- 1:51milk and a half of
- 1:53a thing of bread. I left there and I
- 1:55became a capitalist. I didn't know what
- 1:57a capitalist was, but I knew I wasn't a
- 1:58communist, right? So, people in our
- 2:00country are in the free enterprise
- 2:01system, but they don't understand it.
- 2:03So, what are they making the mistake of?
- 2:05They're consumers, they're not owners.
- 2:07We are a consumer society and we train
- 2:09these kids to be consumers, adults as
- 2:10well. So, I'll give you a simple
- 2:12example. I looked I was trying to give
- 2:14an example to a young kid the other day,
- 2:15so I actually did the math on it.
- 2:17You have an iPhone?
- 2:18>> Yeah.
- 2:19>> Okay, have you always had an iPhone?
- 2:20>> Well, yeah, for the last decade or more,
- 2:22yeah.
- 2:22>> All right. So, iPhone's around for what?
- 2:2418 years, 19 years? I went and did the
- 2:26numbers and found out what the cost was
- 2:28for every iPhone, added up. If you got
- 2:30an iPhone each time and somebody who's
- 2:32older than that, you spent 22,000 and
- 2:34some change at the retail price.
- 2:37If you bought the stock, I went and saw
- 2:38what the stock was on the same day that
- 2:40thing came out and you bought the stock.
- 2:41Same amount of money of the stock.
- 2:43>> Apple stock.
- 2:44>> Apple stock.
- 2:45$326,000 right now. Instead of out 22
- 2:48grand, you have 326. If you're going to
- 2:50use an Apple phone, I'm not saying it's
- 2:52Apple specific, I'm not making a
- 2:53recommendation, why would you not own
- 2:55the company?
- 2:56Right? Because we don't teach people to
- 2:58think that way and so now they think
- 2:59communism is going to be the answer.
- 3:00They don't understand what that really
- 3:02means. They have no clue. So, you have
- 3:04to become an owner.
- 3:06You have That's what you have to do.
- 3:07Then the second piece is, when I
- 3:09interviewed all these people, I found
- 3:10four things with them. I found number
- 3:12one, their focus didn't matter if they
- 3:14were a a macro trader or if they were
- 3:16value trader or didn't matter what their
- 3:18style was. The four things that they had
- 3:20in common, I call them the core four,
- 3:21was number one, they all
- 3:23were focused on not losing money.
- 3:26Most people are trying to make money.
- 3:28And the reason is they know, if you
- 3:30lose, you know,
- 3:31you you you lose you got a $100,000
- 3:33investment and you lose 50%.
- 3:36How much do you have to grow your money
- 3:38to get your money back? And people will
- 3:40say 50%. No, you got to grow it 100%.
- 3:43>> Mhm.
- 3:43>> Right? You get it?
- 3:44>> Yeah, yeah.
- 3:45>> Right? So, they know that. So, they're
- 3:46first making sure they don't How do they
- 3:48do that? They do it by asset allocation,
- 3:51right? They all have different asset
- 3:52allocation strategies, which at the most
- 3:54basic level is you don't put all your
- 3:56eggs in one basket. Most people put all
- 3:58their money in their business or their
- 3:59house, right? They
- 4:02know that that is the kiss of death. And
- 4:04so they look at how to divide their
- 4:06assets where they have a certain amount
- 4:08in more secure environment, meaning not
- 4:10a lot of upside, but it's like the nest
- 4:12egg, and they have some that are more at
- 4:13risk. And there's different And I
- 4:14learned what theirs are, and I taught
- 4:16those different ones. But the most
- 4:17valuable one I know you know, cuz I read
- 4:19it in your book. And I was really
- 4:20impressed. Asymmetrical risk reward.
- 4:23Their entire focus is not about taking
- 4:26risks. Like there's few Only a few
- 4:28people you think you're a billionaire
- 4:29cuz you took giant risks, right? No, no,
- 4:32no. May Some do, but they don't usually
- 4:34stay billionaires doing that, right? How
- 4:36do they do it? They figure out what's
- 4:38the smallest amount of risk with the
- 4:39most amount of upside that I can do. And
- 4:41so
- 4:43Paul Tudor Jones's approach was five to
- 4:45one. If I'm going to risk a dollar, I
- 4:47want to be certain I'm going to make
- 4:48five.
- 4:50You and I, most average people, would
- 4:51normally think I used to think, well,
- 4:5412, 15, 20% return, right?
- 4:56But here's how it works. If I risk $1
- 4:59and I'm certain I'm going to make five
- 5:00and I'm wrong, I'm down one. I can risk
- 5:02a dollar and still make four. I can be
- 5:04wrong four times out of five and still
- 5:05be okay.
- 5:07That's how those guys become
- 5:08billionaires. Asymmetrical risk reward.
- 5:10I was talking to a gentleman um who in
- 5:1419 like 2008, excuse me, he took $25
- 5:18million and turned it into $2 in the
- 5:20worst economic time. He anticipated
- 5:22[snorts]
- 5:23what was going to happen with the real
- 5:24estate. Everybody thought it was going
- 5:25to keep going up. He used synthetic bets
- 5:27and bet against it and made $2
- 5:29Brilliant, brilliant job. And I said to
- 5:32him,
- 5:33you know, what What is the things that's
- 5:35missing for investors? He goes, well,
- 5:37the smartest investors are usually the
- 5:39worst investors cuz they want absolute
- 5:41certainty. They know everything before
- 5:43they decide, and by that time the
- 5:44opportunity's gone.
- 5:45>> [clears throat]
- 5:46>> And he said, but the most important key
- 5:48for him is asymmetric risk reward." He
- 5:50said, "I risked I think he said he
- 5:52risked 6 cents for every dollar."
- 5:54He could have been wrong a dozen times,
- 5:57but he wasn't. That's how he did it,
- 5:58right? And then the fourth one is the
- 6:00obvious one we both know which is
- 6:01diversification, but this is the real
- 6:03key.
- 6:03You know Ray Dalio is, right?
- 6:05>> Yeah. Yeah, I've interviewed him
- 6:06actually.
- 6:06>> Yeah, so Ray's a good friend. One of the
- 6:08questions I asked him was, "If we had to
- 6:10reduce it to the single most important
- 6:12investment principle to know, I mean
- 6:14you're a the DaVinci of investing. No
- 6:16one has made more money than you in this
- 6:17area, you know." I said, "What is it? Is
- 6:20there one? There's got to be one." And
- 6:22he goes, "Tony, there is." He goes, "I
- 6:24spent almost 9 years refining this, and
- 6:27it's so simple. So the holy grail of
- 6:29investing is to find eight to 12
- 6:32uncorrelated investments that you feel
- 6:34strongly about. If you find eight to 12
- 6:37of those, you reduce your risk 80% and
- 6:40keep your upside. In fact, you slightly
- 6:42enhance your upside."
- 6:43>> Uncorrelated for somebody
- 6:44>> Uncorrelated. That's that's the hard
- 6:45part today, cuz so many markets are
- 6:47correlated.
- 6:48>> What does uncorrelated mean for someone
- 6:49like this?
- 6:49>> Well, for example, stocks and bonds
- 6:51traditionally are thought of as
- 6:52uncorrelated. Meaning, you know, stocks
- 6:56in a tough time, those are the ones
- 6:57Excuse me, in a growing time, stocks are
- 6:59where you put your money, but bonds are
- 7:01to protect you when the market goes
- 7:02down. Unfortunately, during most things
- 7:05like 2008 or 2020, they both go down at
- 7:07that time, but nobody talks about that,
- 7:09do they? They just go, "Oh, it's this
- 7:10weird thing." It happens regularly.
- 7:12>> So things that don't move together.
- 7:13>> That's right. They don't move together.
- 7:15Well, so much is tied together today.
- 7:16But the only way to really do it is
- 7:17you've got to have private investment,
- 7:19private equity, private credit, private
- 7:21real estate. You have to diversify
- 7:23beyond just stocks and bonds, and then
- 7:25you can get that across it by different
- 7:26industries, different elements, cuz
- 7:28think about this. This will blow your
- 7:29mind.
- 7:30Private equity, basic private equity,
- 7:32now I interviewed 12 of the best in the
- 7:34world. Basic private equity has
- 7:36outproduced every stock market in the
- 7:38world for 40 years. Every single stock
- 7:41market in the world every year for 40
- 7:42years. Now, you don't have total
- 7:45liquidity, that's you're giving
- 7:46something up, but your returns are in a
- 7:47different place. They don't have to sell
- 7:49when things are tough, they take
- 7:50advantage. These are the smartest people
- 7:51out there. They're not just trying to
- 7:52get alpha, they're building value,
- 7:55right? They take a company, they put AI
- 7:57in it, they bring new people to it, and
- 7:59then they take it to the public or in
- 8:01most cases they sell it to private
- 8:02companies. There's fewer public
- 8:04companies than ever. So, I looked it up
- 8:06and it was fan- fantastic see, the
- 8:08average S&P for 39 years was 9%. Nice
- 8:12return.
- 8:13If you put a million dollars down, you
- 8:15know, you'd have $28 million,
- 8:18you know, 39 years later without doing
- 8:20anything. But if you put it in basic
- 8:22private equity, basic private equity has
- 8:24averaged 15.7%.
- 8:28Think about the difference of
- 8:29compounding that every single year.
- 8:31>> Yeah, it's crazy.
- 8:31>> Now it's worth $328 million.
- 8:35That's the difference between the same
- 8:37investment in public versus private. So,
- 8:40it's finding these pieces, but when you
- 8:41can do eight to 12 uncorrelated
- 8:43investments or more, reduce your risk by
- 8:4680%. That's how you get higher returns
- 8:49and the same time because most people
- 8:50are behind. And so
- 8:51>> You You didn't come from a financial
- 8:53background.
- 8:53>> No, no, I have no financial background.
- 8:55>> You didn't study finance in university.
- 8:57>> No.
- 8:57>> So So, where did you learn all this
- 8:58stuff about finance?
- 8:59>> to the very best on Earth. Like why
- 9:01would I go to university to professors
- 9:02never done anything when I can go to 50
- 9:05of the smartest people on Earth or in
- 9:06private equity I went to 13 of the
- 9:08smartest ones, the most successful in
- 9:10history.
- 9:10>> Is your superpower learning?
- 9:12>> Yes, I think it's That's what I told I
- 9:14said to you from the beginning. That's
- 9:15what pattern recognition, pattern
- 9:16utilization, pattern creation is. If you
- 9:18don't learn at a rapid tempo in the
- 9:20world right now, you're cheating
- 9:21yourself of an extraordinary life.
- 9:23>> Is there a tactic or a strategy to make
- 9:25me a better learner, especially someone
- 9:26that does this podcast? I get to meet
- 9:27people like you, so I want to store
- 9:29everything
- 9:29>> Yes.
- 9:30>> in this time that we have.
- 9:31>> Yes, I I'm I believe in immersion and
- 9:33spaced repetition. So, I believe like
- 9:36Did Did you take a language in school?
- 9:38>> Oh god, yeah, German.
- 9:40>> Can you speak it?
- 9:41>> Nein.
- 9:42>> [laughter]
- 9:42>> That's right. So, most people go to
- 9:44college or high school and college and
- 9:46they take a language, right? And 5 years
- 9:48later, 10 years later, can't speak a
- 9:49word, right? Immersion is how you do it.
- 9:52So, if I wanted to teach you a language
- 9:54and you had the time and money, I would
- 9:55take you to Italy and I would drop you
- 9:57in the middle of Rome and say, "I'll see
- 9:59you in 90 days." With no one to teach
- 10:01you, in 90 days, are you going to be
- 10:02speaking the language?
- 10:04>> Better.
- 10:05>> You're you're going to speak the
- 10:06language. You're going to know the
- 10:07nuances of the language. You're going to
- 10:08have a pitch and tone that's more there
- 10:10cuz it's how you learned originally, by
- 10:11total immersion. So, the reason I do 12
- 10:14hours a day for 4 days,
- 10:1750 hours in a weekend or 60 hours and
- 10:19most people think, "I'll never do that."
- 10:21But, they have the time of their life.
- 10:21So, time disappears when you're enjoying
- 10:23yourself. And when you hate it, I mean,
- 10:24it feels like eternity. But, the reason
- 10:26I'm able to do that is that immersion is
- 10:28like years of experience and you're in a
- 10:30peak state while you're doing it. So,
- 10:32your memory because it's locked in, like
- 10:349:00
- 10:35as opposed to 8:00.
- 10:36So, I love that. The other thing that I
- 10:38do is I'm capturing I use AI now to do
- 10:40it. I've kept journals my whole life
- 10:42just like you looks like you've done.
- 10:43But, I'm building out but I have my AI
- 10:45that I've been feeding over and over and
- 10:47over again the things that I want it to
- 10:48remember, the principles and I create
- 10:50structures to evaluate these things.
- 10:53>> And I asked you there about how these
- 10:54wealthy investors make their money. Um
- 10:56the last question I really have around
- 10:58this is how the best entrepreneurs in
- 11:00the world make their money.
- 11:02Um again, we're called the Diary of a
- 11:03CEO. So, there's lots of entrepreneurs
- 11:04and build businesses builders watching.
- 11:05And I know you've worked with many of
- 11:07the world's top entrepreneurs. In fact,
- 11:09one of them wrote you a letter.
- 11:11>> Oh, which one?
- 11:13>> Marc Benioff.
- 11:14>> Oh, I love Marc.
- 11:15He's beautiful man.
- 11:16>> For anyone that doesn't know who Marc
- 11:17is,
- 11:18um he's the the founder CEO of
- 11:20Salesforce.
- 11:21>> Yes. Yeah, he actually came to four I
- 11:25think or five of my seminars originally
- 11:26in a row, same seminar. And you You
- 11:30Marc's a big as I am, he's a big guy and
- 11:32he was going for it full tilt. And
- 11:33finally, after the fourth one, he came
- 11:34up to me and said, "You've convinced me.
- 11:36I'm going to leave Oracle. I'm going to
- 11:38start my own business. I want you to
- 11:39come on the journey with me. It's called
- 11:41salesforce.com." He said, "We're going
- 11:42to change business around the world." He
- 11:43said this to me. He goes, "And I promise
- 11:45you we'll get to a hundred million
- 11:47dollars in business." Now, he's doing
- 11:48like 42 billion, right? So, but Mark's
- 11:51What I love about Mark is he's a
- 11:52contributor. He's He's a social CEO.
- 11:55Like, he's does things for society. He
- 11:57isn't just about himself. He's an
- 11:58extraordinary human being.
- 12:00>> He said, "Dear Tony,
- 12:02I'm so deeply grateful for everything
- 12:04that you have done for me over the last
- 12:06four decades."
- 12:08He talked about the seminars he'd been
- 12:09to with you and says that you've
- 12:10transformed his life through your
- 12:13inspiration and ideas.
- 12:15He talks about that particular seminar
- 12:16you referenced as the moment that led
- 12:17him to go deeper and deeper and deeper.
- 12:20He said, "It was at Date with Destiny
- 12:22that I made the firm decision to leave
- 12:23Oracle and start my own company.
- 12:25We even had a brief conversation about
- 12:27it back then, if you remember."
- 12:28>> remember.
- 12:29>> Fast forward 26 years, and Salesforce
- 12:32now has 80,000 employees and generates
- 12:35over 40 billion in revenue annually.
- 12:39It stands as the largest enterprise
- 12:41software company in the world.
- 12:43I truly could not have done it without
- 12:45you by my side.
- 12:47And as you always say, we often
- 12:49overestimate what we can do in 1 year,
- 12:51but we vastly underestimate what we can
- 12:53do in a few decades.
- 12:55Tony, I started this letter with
- 12:56gratitude, and I'll end it the same way.
- 12:58When I reached my most difficult
- 13:00moments, you were there. When I reached
- 13:02my highest heights, you were also there.
- 13:04I never [snorts] forgot that whenever I
- 13:06reached out for help, you returned the
- 13:09phone call or text always quickly.
- 13:12Business and politics are temporal, but
- 13:14relationships are eternal, and yours is
- 13:16one I carry with me always.
- 13:17Congratulations on everything you're
- 13:19doing.
- 13:20I look forward to a wonderful future
- 13:22with you. Aloha,
- 13:24Mark."
- 13:25>> That was very beautiful.
- 13:27That must be a little
- 13:28I just I love Mark. He's such a good man
- 13:30and
- 13:31um
- 13:33that's very kind of him to write that
- 13:34letter.
- 13:35He says he gives me more credit than I
- 13:37deserve.
- 13:38Um but I
- 13:39I love him personally. I love I I love
- 13:41strangers. I'm driven by that, but I
- 13:43love Mark cuz he's such a giver. I I see
- 13:45him as a
- 13:46a role model of what a great CEO is.
- 13:49Someone who understands the social
- 13:52impact of what they're doing as well as
- 13:53the business impact. Um he's got a heart
- 13:56of gold and of course we all have ups
- 13:57and downs throughout our lives and and
- 13:59he thinks he's just I just helped him.
- 14:01He's helped me, too. It's like it's
- 14:03never a one one-way piece. It's not like
- 14:05I go around and coach all these people.
- 14:06I'm no idiot. I've learned so much from
- 14:08Mark.
- 14:09Uh it's priceless. So I have to I have
- 14:11to send that thanks right back to him.
- 14:12No question about it.
- 14:13>> Where does that emotion come from that I
- 14:15see in your face?
- 14:17>> I [laughter] don't know. I was just like
- 14:20I'm I'm an emotional guy. I'm empathetic
- 14:22guy and I'm I'm a lover, you know?
- 14:24That's what drives all that I do.
- 14:26And to um see somebody I love and to see
- 14:28how far he's come and to know that um
- 14:31I've been able to be helpful to him at
- 14:33at key moments
- 14:35um is meaningful. You know, it's
- 14:36extremely meaningful cuz he's provided
- 14:39opportunities for
- 14:40millions of people, 80,000 employees,
- 14:43but millions of people through his
- 14:44creativity and his focus and
- 14:47we've done a lot of cool things
- 14:48together. I called him one time I was up
- 14:49in uh San Francisco for other business
- 14:52and um I read in the paper that the
- 14:55this landlord was kicking out these nuns
- 14:57who had the food kitchen in the the
- 14:59worst part of the city there, in the
- 15:01Tenderloin district. And I was like
- 15:03this guy's an idiot. I mean, I got to I
- 15:06got to do something. So instead of
- 15:07leaving, I spent an extra day and I went
- 15:08and met these nuns.
- 15:10Most incredible ladies and they were
- 15:12spending
- 15:14all their time cooking food so they
- 15:16could sell food so they could make money
- 15:17so they could actually prepare food for
- 15:19the homeless there. And in this tiny
- 15:21little building and they were getting
- 15:22kicked out. So I called the owner and I
- 15:24said listen, I'm on a lot of real estate
- 15:26also. I understand your rights as a real
- 15:28estate guy, but I said do you want to be
- 15:29the most hated guy in San Francisco? I
- 15:31said
- 15:33I'll give you an option. How about let
- 15:34them stay till the end of the year. I'll
- 15:36pay their lease. I'll pay twice the
- 15:38amount and then I'll get them out.
- 15:40I said but you don't push them out now
- 15:42on the street. So he agreed.
- 15:44And so then I said to ladies, let's find
- 15:46a place for you and I'll help you find a
- 15:48place. We'll rent a place for you. And I
- 15:50started getting phone calls and one of
- 15:52the phone calls I got since realtor he
- 15:53goes, "They're they're looking to buy a
- 15:55place."
- 15:56And I said
- 15:57I said well where they getting the
- 15:59money? I said they said I don't know. So
- 16:01I called the nun up and she goes
- 16:04I said, you know I was said I you know
- 16:05pay for a place for you guys for a year,
- 16:07you know, lease you a place. I said but
- 16:08I hear you looking to buy a place. Do
- 16:09you guys have some capital or I'm not
- 16:11aware of? And she goes
- 16:12"No." She goes, "God will provide,
- 16:15Tony."
- 16:16I said like God will provide. That's so
- 16:19So I spent I don't know a million two
- 16:21something like that to find them a
- 16:22place. But then I called Mark cuz I
- 16:24didn't want them living in the place. I
- 16:25said Mark match me on this. And I mean
- 16:28he didn't hesitate a second. He had not
- 16:30even met the nuns. Then he went and met
- 16:32the nuns. We went and met them and he
- 16:33went and he bought them a home for them
- 16:34to stay in. And and then we went through
- 16:36four years of the city trying to not let
- 16:38them take over this place. But that's
- 16:40kind of guy Mark is. So he's incredibly
- 16:42generous and I'm very touched that I
- 16:44could count him as a friend and be a
- 16:46helpful to him and he's been so helpful
- 16:47to me.
- 16:48>> I've learned quite a lot about you today
- 16:49just from observing you and two one of
- 16:51the big things that I've learned is the
- 16:53two moments where I've seen tears in
- 16:55your eyes
- 16:56have both been moments where people have
- 16:59expressed a huge amount of love and
- 17:00appreciation for you.
- 17:01>> That's true.
- 17:02>> And I I work back through your early
- 17:04earliest years and I I get it it's
- 17:06almost like a a jigsaw puzzle coming
- 17:08into formation in my mind of
- 17:10how how much you love love.
- 17:12>> I do. I think love is life.
- 17:14Love is the driving force in my life for
- 17:16sure. There's no question about it. And
- 17:18that's why
- 17:19I can't
- 17:21I hate to see suffering cuz it's the
- 17:22opposite of love. You know, if you love
- 17:23somebody, what do you do? Anything you
- 17:24can. So, that's what I'm called to do.
- 17:26And it is it's a calling. It's not a
- 17:28job. It's not a business. You know, I've
- 17:30all kinds of businesses, obviously, and
- 17:32I enjoy business. But this is my
- 17:34mission. This is what I'm made for. And
- 17:36um
- 17:37I'm just one guy there. I can't do
- 17:38everything, but I can do a lot. And I'm
- 17:40always figuring out how to scale more,
- 17:41right? You know, whether it's feeding
- 17:43people or
- 17:44I'm getting you know, my wife and I
- 17:46we're fortunate to have our own plane
- 17:47and I I don't want to just burn up a
- 17:49bunch of carbon. So, I found it's 3,000
- 17:50trees. So, I said, "Let's plant 100
- 17:52million trees." We're up to 75 million.
- 17:54I think we're going to hit the 100
- 17:55million this year. And but we didn't
- 17:56just plant the trees. We taught the
- 17:58farmers, worked with the organization
- 18:00about how to build a build a crop not
- 18:02once a year, but to do it across 12
- 18:04different months. So, that something
- 18:06drops out, they come out and they go
- 18:07from earning a dollar 25 a day and
- 18:09starving to making $12 a day, which
- 18:11doesn't sound like much, makes them rich
- 18:13in that community. So, we're doing that.
- 18:15I just I love taking things to scale,
- 18:17too. It's like
- 18:18I love the individual impact and I love
- 18:21the the global impact. The combination
- 18:23of the two make life ever challenging
- 18:25and ever exciting.
- 18:27>> With people like Mark and entrepreneurs,
- 18:28my last question about this pattern
- 18:30recognition and my last question is just
- 18:32as me as a you know, I'm I'm an
- 18:33entrepreneur and building businesses at
- 18:34the moment. I'm earlier in my journey,
- 18:36much earlier than someone like Mark. But
- 18:38what is the pattern that you've seen in
- 18:39these exceptional founders and
- 18:40entrepreneurs as it relates to building
- 18:42great businesses
- 18:43that you would impart on me?
- 18:45>> I don't think there's anything I'm going
- 18:46to impart on you that you don't already
- 18:47know cuz the fundamentals are so simple.
- 18:49Um you have to the business has to be
- 18:51more than a vehicle for money. And don't
- 18:53get me wrong. I mean, there are people
- 18:55who certainly succeed that way. But if
- 18:56you look at the people that build
- 18:57something that's lasting, it has to be a
- 19:00passion where you it's something you
- 19:01believe in so much, it's so valuable.
- 19:04It's a contribution sense to you, not
- 19:06just an economic sense. Cuz in the
- 19:08beginning of a business, it's like
- 19:09having a child, you know?
- 19:11You know, you don't get a lot back. You
- 19:12You work around the clock, you'll
- 19:14discover when your first child comes,
- 19:16and you love them. It's It's the pride
- 19:17of ownership. But, if you're just a lot
- 19:20of people start a business thinking
- 19:21they're going to get rich overnight or
- 19:22make some And those people never
- 19:23succeed. So, it's like finding something
- 19:26a vision that not only you believe in,
- 19:28but others are completely moved by cuz
- 19:30you can attract people. You can't build
- 19:32an organization without great people. I
- 19:34I mean, do you think I could run all
- 19:35these companies if I was just sitting
- 19:37there every day? I mean, I've got some
- 19:38of the greatest leaders I could possibly
- 19:40recruit. I'm constantly looking for the
- 19:41second part, which is how do I find
- 19:43leaders? How do I find leaders that are
- 19:45smarter than I am in various areas, and
- 19:47where I can pull together the right
- 19:49people together and create a culture
- 19:51that adds massive value and continually
- 19:53does so until it dominates the that
- 19:55industry or that market or that
- 19:57marketplace. So, I think you have to
- 20:00find something that's more than just a
- 20:01business for you. It has to be more than
- 20:03economics for you. It has to be a
- 20:04mission for the most successful people.
- 20:07You have to be able to have something
- 20:09you can articulate that can attract
- 20:11people, and you have to constantly find
- 20:13the very best that you can, and you got
- 20:15to constantly prune because the law of
- 20:17familiarity shows up. That's what your
- 20:19friends went through, right? They got
- 20:20all these great things, but now how
- 20:21great it is after a while, it's
- 20:22familiar. You know, it's like they don't
- 20:24they don't have the same hunger. I look
- 20:26for not only wickedly smart people,
- 20:28which I love, but hungry people. When
- 20:31people ask me like, "What is the one
- 20:33common denominator of people that
- 20:34succeed on a massive scale around the
- 20:36world?" I'd always in the beginning I'd
- 20:37say, "Well, I love wicked intelligence,
- 20:40but I know a lot of very smart people
- 20:41that I can't fight their way out of a
- 20:42paper bag in their relationship or their
- 20:44finances, you know, they're smart in one
- 20:45area and not another."
- 20:46But, the one that is absolutely
- 20:49completely accurate is hunger. The
- 20:51hunger to be more, to do more, to give
- 20:53more, to share more. Somebody who has a
- 20:54hunger that doesn't die. Not a hunger to
- 20:57get make a certain amount of money or a
- 20:58hunger to achieve, you know, a swimsuit
- 21:00size, but a hunger that's unquenchable.
- 21:04Those are the people that you know their
- 21:06names because they have an impact. So,
- 21:08it's like whether it's Richard Branson
- 21:09who's in his 70s, he's the same hunger
- 21:11today as when he was 16 years old in
- 21:13that crypt in your country coming up
- 21:15with Virgin, right? I mean, the same
- 21:17level, let's give it a go, right? He's
- 21:18got that piece, you know? Uh anybody you
- 21:20see, I mean, you know, look at the
- 21:22people you have on your show and think
- 21:23about how many of them still have that
- 21:24hunger. Kevin Hart, like he's a friend
- 21:26of mine, I know he's been on your show.
- 21:27I mean, he's one of the hardest working
- 21:29guys, but he's hungry. He loves it. He
- 21:30want He just wants to do it all. To me,
- 21:32that's the gift. And it's stoking your
- 21:34hunger or waking someone's hunger that
- 21:36doesn't have it. That's a real gift, and
- 21:38that's one of the gifts I think I've
- 21:40tried to refine within myself and help
- 21:41people with.
- 21:42>> If you love The Diary of a CEO, Brandon,
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