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Bigger Forearms: Ranking the Best Exercises Using Science — Transcript

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  1. 0:00[Music]
  2. 0:00welcome to the house of hypertrophy does
  3. 0:03this text from the early 2000s reveal
  4. 0:05the truth about forearm growth it says
  5. 0:08and quite controversially might I add
  6. 0:10the forearms are involved in all
  7. 0:12exercises where you must grasp a bar
  8. 0:14with the hands there is no need for
  9. 0:16direct forarm work it's been said that I
  10. 0:18have the best forarms in the business
  11. 0:20and I never did any direct forarm work
  12. 0:22who said this none other than Mike mener
  13. 0:25there's no doubt people before and after
  14. 0:28him share this opinion but would you say
  15. 0:30it's correct undeniably the forearms
  16. 0:33receive a stimulus from multiple
  17. 0:34exercises already in most programs and
  18. 0:37will grow from this but it's likely to
  19. 0:39truly maximize and accelerate your
  20. 0:41forearm gains direct forearm training is
  21. 0:44needed why the literature indicates
  22. 0:46achieving High muscle fiber Recruitment
  23. 0:48and tension is required to optimize
  24. 0:50growth this is done by ensuring the
  25. 0:53forearms are the limiting factor and
  26. 0:54we're training the exercise hard enough
  27. 0:56to get to or close to failure direct
  28. 0:58forarm training achieves this with other
  29. 1:01exercises your forearms aren't typically
  30. 1:03the limiting factor if they are you're
  31. 1:06likely compromising the stimulus to the
  32. 1:08muscles these exercises typically aimed
  33. 1:10to develop so feel free to use straps if
  34. 1:12needed so what are the best ways to
  35. 1:15train the forearms we've ranked what may
  36. 1:17be the best Forum exercises by
  37. 1:19extrapolating from the current
  38. 1:21scientific literature before diving in
  39. 1:23some might be questioning me disagreeing
  40. 1:25with Mena but remember Mena is just one
  41. 1:28person with aite genetic ICS and
  42. 1:30although he seemingly went without
  43. 1:32direct Forum training as Arnold mentions
  44. 1:35in his book other individuals with
  45. 1:37impressive forarms such as Dave Draper
  46. 1:39and Chuck cypes did a lot of forearm
  47. 1:41training let's dive
  48. 1:48in I very quickly need to mention that
  49. 1:51we have a previous video on the forearms
  50. 1:53but this will be a shorter video that
  51. 1:55condenses the key details with rankings
  52. 1:58I'll actually mention an exercise and
  53. 2:00details that I didn't before I've
  54. 2:02actually changed my mind on something so
  55. 2:05there are 20 muscles belonging to the
  56. 2:06forearm that can be divided into the
  57. 2:08anterior and posterior compartments of
  58. 2:10the forearm the anterior compartment is
  59. 2:13larger and rist Coes effectively train
  60. 2:16most of this compartment making them
  61. 2:18likely an essential movement to maximize
  62. 2:20forarm size there are many risk
  63. 2:22variations but starting with normal
  64. 2:25standing wrist Coes we can see the wrist
  65. 2:27moves from a neutral to flex position
  66. 2:29while fingers remain flexed on the bar
  67. 2:32is this good or bad well a decent chunk
  68. 2:35of evidence suggests that compared to
  69. 2:37training muscles at shorter muscle
  70. 2:38lengths training at longer muscle
  71. 2:40lengths builds more muscle some might be
  72. 2:43wondering wasn't there a recent study
  73. 2:45funded by Jeff nippard suggesting longer
  74. 2:47muscle length does not build more muscle
  75. 2:49in trained individuals we've dissected
  76. 2:52the study recently but the key is this
  77. 2:54study compared to half reps while the
  78. 2:56muscle is at a longer length to a 4in
  79. 2:58motion both still reach the same maximum
  80. 3:01long muscle lengths and when looking at
  81. 3:03other research it's still possible that
  82. 3:05compared to exercises that predominantly
  83. 3:07move through short muscle lengths moving
  84. 3:10through longer lengths still builds more
  85. 3:11muscle we'll be sure to update you with
  86. 3:13future research but for now it seems
  87. 3:16worthwhile to factor into our analysis
  88. 3:19okay all these flex and muscles are
  89. 3:21going to be at longer length when the
  90. 3:23wrist is in an extended position a
  91. 3:25position which normal standing rist HS
  92. 3:27do not reach additionally two of the
  93. 3:30flexor muscles the flexor digitorum
  94. 3:32superficialis and profundus can also
  95. 3:35Flex the fingers so for them we must
  96. 3:38factor in both wrist and finger
  97. 3:39positions to know their length they're
  98. 3:41going to be at longer lengths when the
  99. 3:43fingers are extended so since the
  100. 3:45fingers remain flexed on the load
  101. 3:47they're at fairly shorter lengths
  102. 3:49therefore normal standing wrist Coes
  103. 3:51train the flex and muscles at shorter
  104. 3:53lengths I don't want to make it seem
  105. 3:55like this is terrible because we still
  106. 3:57do see measurable hypertrophy with
  107. 3:59shorter length training it's just
  108. 4:01possibly not optimal we'll place them
  109. 4:03into C tier we can modify this exercise
  110. 4:07to potentially make it better by using
  111. 4:09fat grip attachments these increase the
  112. 4:11diameter of the bar and place our
  113. 4:13fingers into a relatively more extended
  114. 4:15position this will result in the flexor
  115. 4:18digitorum superficialis and profundus
  116. 4:20being at somewhat longer lengths but
  117. 4:22since our wrist remains traveling from
  118. 4:24neutral to flexed it likely won't affect
  119. 4:26the stimulus to the other flexed muscles
  120. 4:28anyhow this this partial Improvement
  121. 4:30means I'll place them into B tier
  122. 4:33alternatively instead of using fat grips
  123. 4:36you could just allow your fingers to
  124. 4:37extend during the lowering portion as
  125. 4:39the load rolls down and then Flex during
  126. 4:42the lifting of the weight this similarly
  127. 4:44results in the flex of Digit arm
  128. 4:46superficialis and profundus reaching
  129. 4:48longer lengths again with no real effect
  130. 4:50on the other Flex muscles there are some
  131. 4:52differences between the fat grips and
  132. 4:54finger motion variations such as how the
  133. 4:57finger motion variation attains great to
  134. 4:59finger extension but using fat grips
  135. 5:02allows the fingers to stay at that
  136. 5:04relatively more extended position
  137. 5:05throughout the full movement there are
  138. 5:07technical Arguments for either side but
  139. 5:10I currently believe it's unclear which
  140. 5:12could be superior based on the current
  141. 5:13literature so I've chosen to place both
  142. 5:16in the same tier Risco can be performed
  143. 5:19with a forearm horizontally across a
  144. 5:21surface this variation successfully
  145. 5:24reaches an extended wrist position and
  146. 5:26thereby lengthens all the flexing
  147. 5:27muscles well I'll place them in into a
  148. 5:30tier these can also be modified to
  149. 5:32possibly be even better using fat grips
  150. 5:35to place our fingers into a relatively
  151. 5:36more extended Position will further
  152. 5:38lengthen the flexor digitorum
  153. 5:40superficialis and profundus to near
  154. 5:42maximum alternatively you can extend
  155. 5:44your fingers during the lowering portion
  156. 5:46which likewise further lengthens the
  157. 5:48flexid digitorum superficialis and
  158. 5:50profundus to their maximum again there
  159. 5:52are differences between using fat grips
  160. 5:55and the finger motion variation but
  161. 5:57since it's not clear what could be
  162. 5:58superior I've chosen to place both into
  163. 6:01s tier with these wrist Coes that have
  164. 6:03your arm horizontal across the surface
  165. 6:06it's possible to use a slightly inclined
  166. 6:08surface how does this change things most
  167. 6:11dumbbell and barbell exercises are most
  168. 6:13challenging when the segment we're
  169. 6:14moving is parallel to the floor when
  170. 6:16wrist curling on a flat surface this
  171. 6:19happens when the wrist is approximately
  172. 6:21neutral while when wrist curling on an
  173. 6:23incline surface this happens at a
  174. 6:26relatively more extended position where
  175. 6:28some may hypothesize makes it better for
  176. 6:30hypertrophy yet I am skeptical that the
  177. 6:33difference if any exists would be that
  178. 6:36large and I would like to see future
  179. 6:38research on this for now I just consider
  180. 6:41these two inclined variations as
  181. 6:43belonging into s tier if you like you
  182. 6:46could think of these as possibly High
  183. 6:48tier and the others as possibly low tier
  184. 6:50but do so with
  185. 6:53[Music]
  186. 6:56caution the posterior compartment of the
  187. 6:58forearm is smaller but it's likely still
  188. 7:01worth training to truly maximize form
  189. 7:03size many of these muscles are highly
  190. 7:06involved during wrist extension the
  191. 7:08extensive muscles are going to be at
  192. 7:10longer lengths when the wrist is flexed
  193. 7:13normal standing wrist extensions move
  194. 7:15from neutral to Extended positions so
  195. 7:17train the muscles at moderate to Shorter
  196. 7:19lengths again this isn't terrible it
  197. 7:22will certainly build muscle but it may
  198. 7:25just not be the best I'll place it into
  199. 7:27a tier wrist extensions with the arm
  200. 7:29horizontally across a surface reach a
  201. 7:32flex position so we'll place these into
  202. 7:34s
  203. 7:35tier an inclin surface can be used which
  204. 7:39similar to the discussion with wrist
  205. 7:40Coes places Peak tension at a relatively
  206. 7:43more lengthened position but as I would
  207. 7:46like to see more data I'll place them
  208. 7:48alongside the other variation in s TI
  209. 7:51with all these wrist extensions in this
  210. 7:53case the fingers being flexed around the
  211. 7:56bar is perfectly fine some of the
  212. 7:58extensive muscles are at longer lengths
  213. 8:00with finger flexion if you apply fat
  214. 8:02grips you would partially shorten them
  215. 8:04which may not be
  216. 8:07[Music]
  217. 8:09favorable the bracher radialis is a
  218. 8:12fairly large for our muscle it's part of
  219. 8:14the posterior compartment but isn't
  220. 8:16involved in wrist extension rather it's
  221. 8:19highly involved in elbow flexion this
  222. 8:21happens in all horizontal pools vertical
  223. 8:24pools and coals this section will focus
  224. 8:27on coals it's widely thought in instead
  225. 8:29of a supered grip using a neutral or
  226. 8:32pronated grip on coals results in
  227. 8:34Greater Brach your radialis activation
  228. 8:36quite surprisingly however multiple
  229. 8:39studies fail to find this and instead
  230. 8:41find similar activation or even slightly
  231. 8:44better activation with a supered grip I
  232. 8:46would like to see a study directly
  233. 8:48assessing Brach your radialis growth
  234. 8:50after training with different grips but
  235. 8:52for now I can't conclude that a certain
  236. 8:55grip position is better as for whether a
  237. 8:57specific exercise could be Superior
  238. 9:00there's this fascinating abstract that
  239. 9:02was presented at a conference recently
  240. 9:04it compared incline to preacher Co and
  241. 9:07notes that Brach your radialis
  242. 9:08hypertrophy was better with the preacher
  243. 9:10curl that's not to say incline curls
  244. 9:13were bad the difference between the two
  245. 9:15exercises seem to have only been
  246. 9:17significantly different at the 60%
  247. 9:19region so clearly incline curls produced
  248. 9:22very measurable gains it's not clear why
  249. 9:24the preacher Cur was better and once
  250. 9:26this study is officially published in
  251. 9:28full text I'll likely have a video on it
  252. 9:31but it's plausible it's because preacher
  253. 9:33Coes are harder at earlier elbow flexion
  254. 9:35ankles where the break your radialis is
  255. 9:38at a longer length if true cable Co set
  256. 9:40up to provide Peak tension at earlier
  257. 9:42elbow flexion angles may also join
  258. 9:44preacher Coes in s tier while other
  259. 9:47curling exercises that are harder at
  260. 9:49later elbow flexion angles like normal
  261. 9:51curls may join incline curls in a tier
  262. 9:53for the break your radialis
  263. 9:59some of you may be wondering about other
  264. 10:01exercises such as wrist rollers and rice
  265. 10:04bucket training I've decided not to
  266. 10:06detail them here I've described why and
  267. 10:08my thoughts on them in the pinned Comon
  268. 10:10as for static holds farmer walks hangs
  269. 10:13and grippers these train finger flexion
  270. 10:16and will train the muscles that are
  271. 10:17involved in this however we know these
  272. 10:20muscles are already highly trained with
  273. 10:22wrist HS therefore I don't consider them
  274. 10:25essential but we have analyzed and
  275. 10:27ranked the different ways to train
  276. 10:28finger reflection in our more thorough
  277. 10:30free forearm guide video likewise
  278. 10:33pronation superation training and Radial
  279. 10:35nner deviation training are probably not
  280. 10:38essential since many muscles involved in
  281. 10:40these are highly trained with risk holes
  282. 10:42or extensions again more detailed
  283. 10:44discussion can be found in our forearm
  284. 10:46guide video finally in the spirit of
  285. 10:49scientific accuracy it is essential to
  286. 10:52make it clear that these rankings are
  287. 10:54based on extrapolating the research on
  288. 10:56training other muscles at longer lengths
  289. 10:58we don't have studies directly measuring
  290. 11:00forearm hypertrophy yet so please don't
  291. 11:02consider these rankings as 100%
  292. 11:05definitely true rather consider them as
  293. 11:07my best guess based on the current
  294. 11:09evidence we'll update you at the house
  295. 11:11of hypertrophy if research confirms or
  296. 11:13goes against anything said here before
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