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  1. 0:02He asked me to do a presentation on on
  2. 0:04on TransPennine. We weren't sure what
  3. 0:06what to what how to title title it. So,
  4. 0:09he went away and had a
  5. 0:10chat with Gareth Dennis, and he came up
  6. 0:12with a wonderful title I'm going to
  7. 0:13struggle to live up to,
  8. 0:15which is better layouts for a better
  9. 0:16railway. However, he did put a a
  10. 0:18commentary
  11. 0:20to accompany that. If I can get my
  12. 0:22computer to work. So, the challenges of
  13. 0:24designing TransPennine
  14. 0:26route upgrade track layouts for the
  15. 0:28Huddersfield through to Dewsbury area to
  16. 0:30enable 21st century timetable
  17. 0:33aspirations, increased capacity, and
  18. 0:35line speed increases.
  19. 0:37So, I'm actually going to touch on a
  20. 0:39slightly wider area of TransPennine, but
  21. 0:41still mostly focused on on west of
  22. 0:43Leeds.
  23. 0:46So, what what is TIU? So, TIU is the
  24. 0:50upgrading and enhancement of the route
  25. 0:52from Manchester Victoria through
  26. 0:53Stalybridge, Huddersfield, Leeds through
  27. 0:55to York.
  28. 0:57So, it's a multi-billion pound project.
  29. 1:00It's varied in size and funding levels
  30. 1:03for a period of time. It's been anything
  31. 1:06from its lowest funding level of 3
  32. 1:08billion pounds up to potentially now 11
  33. 1:10billion pounds with some additional
  34. 1:12works that we're actually taking taking
  35. 1:14to scope.
  36. 1:15So, that's
  37. 1:17um
  38. 1:18including new timetable, rolling stock,
  39. 1:20and a lot of infrastructure
  40. 1:21interventions to improve over 70 miles
  41. 1:24of route, and also
  42. 1:26another 70 70 to 80 miles of diversion
  43. 1:29route, which was has been already
  44. 1:31upgraded to facilitate diverting trains
  45. 1:33while we build the core works.
  46. 1:37So, core objectives of the project, more
  47. 1:40trains with more seats, that's mostly
  48. 1:41rolling stock requirements, faster
  49. 1:43journeys,
  50. 1:45which is journey time, so aspirations
  51. 1:46for journey time being 42 minutes
  52. 1:48between Manchester and Leeds,
  53. 1:51and 64 minutes between Manchester and
  54. 1:53York, which is roughly a 15-minute
  55. 1:56improvement on the current journey
  56. 1:58times.
  57. 1:59More reliable journeys, so that's trying
  58. 2:01to keep trains running on time, so
  59. 2:03improve performance along the route,
  60. 2:05better stations, so first and last mile,
  61. 2:08so improvements to stations themselves,
  62. 2:10not just the the trains that run on the
  63. 2:11network and stop at those stations, but
  64. 2:13the station environment, and getting
  65. 2:15even from getting from the car park to
  66. 2:17getting on the train
  67. 2:18is an important part of the program.
  68. 2:21And then a greener travel, so that is in
  69. 2:23essence electrification of the route.
  70. 2:24However, we
  71. 2:26most recent change to our remit is the
  72. 2:28inclusion of intermodal freight
  73. 2:31over the Pennines via the Diggle route
  74. 2:33because we're electrifying the route,
  75. 2:35it's not a huge step further to gauge
  76. 2:37cleared for W12.
  77. 2:39So, we've now got an additional
  78. 2:41requirement to clear the whole route,
  79. 2:43which is actually already clear as part
  80. 2:44of the works, but provide sufficient
  81. 2:45paths to also run those intermodal
  82. 2:47freight trains in addition to all the
  83. 2:49passenger trains
  84. 2:50that we're already remitted for.
  85. 2:53So,
  86. 2:54key points I'm going to
  87. 2:55touch on today, greener travel, which in
  88. 2:57essence means electrification, so I'll
  89. 2:59just talk through what we're
  90. 3:00electrifying on the route. Faster
  91. 3:01journeys are obviously line line speed
  92. 3:03increases, more trains, rolling stock,
  93. 3:07but also the capacity to run those
  94. 3:09trains, and then more reliable trains is
  95. 3:11performance and operational flexibility
  96. 3:13at various points on the route.
  97. 3:15So,
  98. 3:17greener travel. So, various parts of the
  99. 3:20north of England are electrified at
  100. 3:21different points. So, the green
  101. 3:24is what was already electrified roughly
  102. 3:2510 years ago. All the purple is the
  103. 3:27recently completed Northwest
  104. 3:28electrification project. So, everything
  105. 3:31between Manchester and Liverpool,
  106. 3:34Bolton, Wigan, and even up to Blackpool.
  107. 3:37So,
  108. 3:38and interestingly, originally Manchester
  109. 3:41Victoria to Stalybridge was also part of
  110. 3:43the NW but I'll touch on that in a
  111. 3:44moment
  112. 3:46cuz that was actually postponed and
  113. 3:48put into the TIU program. So, everything
  114. 3:50in red there is was originally the
  115. 3:52electrification proposals for TIU.
  116. 3:55Back in roughly 2018, there was a
  117. 4:00big
  118. 4:01funding challenge, we we actually
  119. 4:05de-scoped various parts of the route.
  120. 4:07Part of that, we lost part a lot of
  121. 4:08electrification.
  122. 4:10So, Andrew Jones, our
  123. 4:12transport secretary at the time, who was
  124. 4:14very keen on for some reason very keen
  125. 4:17on um
  126. 4:18partial electrification. I can't
  127. 4:20remember the correct term for it, but
  128. 4:21basically trains you you put the wires
  129. 4:24at where you get the most value for
  130. 4:25money, i.e. in this instance
  131. 4:28Huddersfield to Leeds where you've got
  132. 4:29electrified stopping services, um and
  133. 4:33Stalybridge to Manchester because of all
  134. 4:35the services in the Northwest that run
  135. 4:37through to Stalybridge. But the through
  136. 4:38trains being bi-mode trains are capable
  137. 4:40of running without the wires. So, we we
  138. 4:42lost and and created discontinuous
  139. 4:46electrification.
  140. 4:47Luckily,
  141. 4:48that was reversed. So, although we
  142. 4:50originally lost
  143. 4:52um
  144. 4:53Ashburys up to Miles
  145. 4:55Miles Platting. Can't point on my
  146. 4:57computer very well.
  147. 4:59This end, we lost the Stalybridge to
  148. 5:01Huddersfield, Leeds Leeds through to
  149. 5:03Church Fenton, and Micklefield through
  150. 5:06to Selby.
  151. 5:07Most of that has come back in with the
  152. 5:09exception of
  153. 5:10the very Manchester end to Ashburys
  154. 5:12line,
  155. 5:13Micklefield to Selby.
  156. 5:16That itself creates challenges cuz the
  157. 5:18original reason for electrifying to
  158. 5:20Selby was to allow the stopping services
  159. 5:22through Selby to an electric service. If
  160. 5:24you're trying to run stopping services
  161. 5:25in amongst fast services, you want your
  162. 5:27stopping trains to have its
  163. 5:29highest possible performance to avoid
  164. 5:31the fast trains catching them. So,
  165. 5:34it is still a shortfall on the overall
  166. 5:36remit, but we've got at least got the
  167. 5:37through route through the north of
  168. 5:38England
  169. 5:39as fully electrified.
  170. 5:42So, rolling stock.
  171. 5:45This is actually already happened. We've
  172. 5:47seen the new trains out on site out on
  173. 5:49the tracks, but roughly 5 years ago we
  174. 5:52got a new fleet. For once we actually
  175. 5:54got a new fleet instead of trying to
  176. 5:55super old old rolling stock and
  177. 5:58reintroduce them and and up up rev them
  178. 6:00for the future. So, what did we actually
  179. 6:02get? So, TransPennine
  180. 6:05actually got two sets, but the one that
  181. 6:06they're actually keeping is the 802
  182. 6:08bi-mode. So, it's a Hitachi train.
  183. 6:12IEP series Hitachi train that runs in
  184. 6:14diesel or electric.
  185. 6:17It's interesting that the performance of
  186. 6:19these trains is isn't significantly
  187. 6:20higher than the Class 185 that we've had
  188. 6:22for the last 20 20 25 years, which was
  189. 6:26specifically designed for TransPennine
  190. 6:28route. The big difference with the
  191. 6:31the 802 is it can run higher than 100
  192. 6:32miles an hour. So,
  193. 6:34the original TransPennine scheme was
  194. 6:36actually electrification only scheme,
  195. 6:38but there was very little value in doing
  196. 6:40that as in output benefits because those
  197. 6:43trains could still only run at the speed
  198. 6:44of the same acceleration at the same
  199. 6:46speed over the over the Pennines. So,
  200. 6:47the only place you actually got a better
  201. 6:49journey time was north of York where the
  202. 6:51802 could do more than 100 miles an hour
  203. 6:53on these core main line.
  204. 6:54So, that's one of the reasons the
  205. 6:56original 2012 electrification scheme was
  206. 6:59briefly paused and then was brought back
  207. 7:01in as an enhancement project. So, the
  208. 7:03802 obviously electric mode, it it's
  209. 7:05it's greener,
  210. 7:07but doesn't make a huge difference to
  211. 7:08performance on the route. However, it is
  212. 7:09five coaches, not three, so you've got
  213. 7:11significant capacity bumps on seats
  214. 7:14increase.
  215. 7:16Northern, introduction of electric only
  216. 7:18Class 331, which are one of the highest
  217. 7:22powered fastest accelerating commuter
  218. 7:24trains in the country. So, that helps to
  219. 7:27keep the stopping trains away from the
  220. 7:29fast trains separately.
  221. 7:32Apologies for me going 100 miles an
  222. 7:35hour. I've got 146 slides to get
  223. 7:37through. That's the bad news. The good
  224. 7:38news is very few of them have words in
  225. 7:40them. They are mostly pictures, so we
  226. 7:42should be able to get through through
  227. 7:43them at a fair old pace.
  228. 7:46So, line speed increases on the route.
  229. 7:48Faster journeys doesn't necessarily mean
  230. 7:50we need to go quickly.
  231. 7:52We actually need to avoid going slowly.
  232. 7:54Slow speed is where you get the
  233. 7:56removing slow speed areas is where you
  234. 7:58get your greatest benefit. So, look
  235. 8:01chart there. Instead of thinking of
  236. 8:02miles per hour, think
  237. 8:04hours per mile, or in this case seconds
  238. 8:06per mile. So, the graph the graph there
  239. 8:08is is showing how long it takes for a
  240. 8:10train to travel a mile at a given mile
  241. 8:13per hour. So,
  242. 8:16low speeds is where you get your
  243. 8:18greatest benefit. So, if you improve
  244. 8:21So, the difference in time for a train
  245. 8:23to travel 1 mile between 25 and 30 miles
  246. 8:25an hour is 24 seconds faster if you can
  247. 8:28do it at 30.
  248. 8:29Whereas if you go from 45 to 50, it's
  249. 8:31only 8 seconds. From 75 to 80, it's 3
  250. 8:34seconds. And from 105 to 110, it's only
  251. 8:361.6 seconds.
  252. 8:38That's probably a bit easier to
  253. 8:39understand on the graph on the other
  254. 8:41side in the
  255. 8:4315 miles an hour it takes 2 minutes to
  256. 8:45travel a mile.
  257. 8:46If you double the speed, you halve the
  258. 8:48time. So, you've saved a minute in
  259. 8:50journey time.
  260. 8:51You've gone from 2 minutes to 1 minute.
  261. 8:53If you double the speed again to 60
  262. 8:54miles an hour, you halve the time again,
  263. 8:56but you've now only saved
  264. 8:581 minute. So, let me get this right. 30
  265. 9:01seconds instead of 1 minute.
  266. 9:04You double the speed again to 120 miles
  267. 9:06an hour, you halve the time again, but
  268. 9:07you've now only saved
  269. 9:10how many seconds is that?
  270. 9:1230 seconds. So, it's 2 minutes
  271. 9:15down to 1 minute, down to 30 seconds
  272. 9:17each time you double the speed. So, you
  273. 9:18get your real bang for your book from
  274. 9:21tackling the low speed areas.
  275. 9:23So, that's
  276. 9:24where do we need to focus our effort.
  277. 9:26Also,
  278. 9:27um
  279. 9:28we're moving to digital signaling, so we
  280. 9:30don't need to think just miles per hour,
  281. 9:31we actually need to think kilometers per
  282. 9:33hour. So, when we're trying to squeeze
  283. 9:35the maximum we can out of a certain
  284. 9:36curve. So, we'll we'll we'll work out
  285. 9:38what the what what the radius is, and
  286. 9:41then work out what's the maximum speed
  287. 9:42we can get from that that that curve.
  288. 9:45So, you'll be limited, and then you work
  289. 9:47out the speed, and then you round down
  290. 9:48to 5 miles an hour. However, there may
  291. 9:51be a kph increment in between that that
  292. 9:53could be picked. So, as you go down the
  293. 9:55list, Uh red number is obviously the
  294. 9:57whole number on there. So,
  295. 9:59um you've got mph and km/h increments
  296. 10:02that fit between those mph. So, we need
  297. 10:04to be really careful cuz if we just
  298. 10:06design in mph and then with the future
  299. 10:08digital signaling, we convert to kph,
  300. 10:11if we've done it badly,
  301. 10:14we end up losing lots of speed and lots
  302. 10:16of journey time. So, if we literally
  303. 10:17design at 90 mph and it this design
  304. 10:20design doesn't work at 90.1 mph, which
  305. 10:23is
  306. 10:24unlikely, but it is possible. Transition
  307. 10:25lengths being
  308. 10:27uh totally on the limit, you end up
  309. 10:28having to round down 5 kph or 4.8 kph uh
  310. 10:32when you convert to to kilometers per
  311. 10:34hour. So, it's important that we think
  312. 10:36about that
  313. 10:37um when when we're designing. Similarly,
  314. 10:3940 mph, we really need to design at 40.4
  315. 10:42mph so that we hit the kph kph
  316. 10:45alternative.
  317. 10:49Uh another limit worth bearing in mind
  318. 10:51is uh there's quite a lot 75 mph line
  319. 10:54speeds on the railway. Uh there is a
  320. 10:56reason for that. Um it's classed as
  321. 10:57lower speed. So, from a track quality
  322. 10:59perspective, it's a 35-m wave length um
  323. 11:03uh analysis.
  324. 11:04Now, 35 m/s is 77.8 mph.
  325. 11:09So, 125 kph is actually still in the
  326. 11:13lower speed category. So, that is
  327. 11:15actually your threshold. It's not 75
  328. 11:16mph, it's actually 125 kph. So, if
  329. 11:20you're trying to squeeze a little bit
  330. 11:21more out of the railway without having
  331. 11:22to want to have to start measuring all
  332. 11:24your track quality against uh centimeter
  333. 11:26uh wavelength, then 125 uh kph is is
  334. 11:30your limit. So, there's lots of things
  335. 11:32to to consider in there within your
  336. 11:34designs.
  337. 11:36So, I mentioned
  338. 11:37uh oh, sorry, gradient. So, this is the
  339. 11:40line speed proposed line speed profile
  340. 11:42for west of Leeds from uh
  341. 11:44Manchester Victoria through to Leeds.
  342. 11:46Uh red is uh the up direction, so it's
  343. 11:49up to Manchester. Orange is down to
  344. 11:52Leeds.
  345. 11:53Uh the dotted line is the acceleration
  346. 11:55of acceleration deceleration of a Class
  347. 11:58802 in electric mode.
  348. 12:00Just to show how closely the uh the
  349. 12:02train does actually follow that line
  350. 12:03speed profile. And then the green line
  351. 12:05on the bottom uh are the gradients. So,
  352. 12:08we have some quite challenging gradients
  353. 12:09on the route, which is why train
  354. 12:10performance is is quite important. Uh
  355. 12:13so, coming from Leeds at the right-hand
  356. 12:14side, uh from Whitehall up to Copley
  357. 12:16Hill, you've got short stretch of 1 in
  358. 12:1868. Then a generic gradient of 120 all
  359. 12:21the way up the hill to Morley Tunnel.
  360. 12:24Uh back down the other side, 1 in 119
  361. 12:26again, so the same gradient pretty much
  362. 12:28down to Dewsbury. It's pretty much flat
  363. 12:30until you get to Heaton Lodge. You've
  364. 12:31got short length of 1 in 70s 78 to
  365. 12:34Heaton Lodge. And then you've got 1 in
  366. 12:36105 climb all the way to Standedge
  367. 12:38Tunnel.
  368. 12:40120 1 in 125 down the other side to
  369. 12:42Stalybridge. Uh then some short lengths
  370. 12:44of 1 in 75 until you get to Miles
  371. 12:46Platting, which is the really aggressive
  372. 12:48uh bank from Manchester Victoria to
  373. 12:50Miles Platting at 1 in 47.
  374. 12:52So, challenging gradients on the route.
  375. 12:54Uh there's only one one short level
  376. 12:56stretch, so you've got gradients
  377. 12:58absolutely everywhere. So, the one short
  378. 13:00um level portion within Morley um
  379. 13:02Standedge Tunnel
  380. 13:04um actually had water troughs in. So,
  381. 13:05I'm digressing massively here, but uh
  382. 13:07uh a little fun fact, uh water troughs
  383. 13:09within the tunnel. It's the only place
  384. 13:11in the country we had water troughs in a
  385. 13:13tunnel. So, for those who don't know
  386. 13:14what water troughs are for,
  387. 13:16we don't have them anymore, it's for
  388. 13:17steam trains to pick up water on the
  389. 13:19move. So, that little scoop that would
  390. 13:20come down and literally they they they
  391. 13:22um the inertia in the water would force
  392. 13:24the shoot up uh the shoot and into the
  393. 13:26tender from from the top.
  394. 13:32So, speeds. I mentioned the low speed
  395. 13:34areas being being the key locations, and
  396. 13:36there are a few of them on on
  397. 13:37TransPennine. So, coming out of
  398. 13:38Manchester Victoria, uh 40 mph going up
  399. 13:41Miles Platting uh throughout uh me
  400. 13:43sorry, at the throughout to Manchester
  401. 13:45Victoria,
  402. 13:46uh increasing to 50 and then dropping
  403. 13:47back down to 30 for the curve at Miles
  404. 13:49Platting. So, the curve at Miles
  405. 13:51Platting is a significant constraint for
  406. 13:53journey times. Next one is the 25 mph
  407. 13:55junction at Stalybridge West.
  408. 13:58Uh we've then got uh coming out of
  409. 14:00Standedge Tunnel, 45 mph at Marsden
  410. 14:02coming out of Standedge Tunnel. 25 mph
  411. 14:04through the station at Huddersfield. And
  412. 14:0745 mph at Marsden on the approaches to
  413. 14:10sorry, on Morley on the approaches to
  414. 14:12Leeds.
  415. 14:13So, a lot of those slow speed areas
  416. 14:14we've actually already tackled.
  417. 14:17Uh I mentioned earlier about NWEP Phase
  418. 14:195 electrification. They did the enabling
  419. 14:21works for electrification, i.e. the line
  420. 14:23speed increases. So, the portion between
  421. 14:25Baguley Fold and Stalybridge had already
  422. 14:27been completed before before TRU
  423. 14:29restarted in
  424. 14:31um 2017.
  425. 14:33However, since then we've uh progressed
  426. 14:36um
  427. 14:37no regret schemes, so tackling those low
  428. 14:39speed areas, the places that had had the
  429. 14:41highest benefit for the minimum spend.
  430. 14:45So, uh TR uh s
  431. 14:48those areas being W1, so the west of
  432. 14:50Leeds is split into W numbers, east of
  433. 14:52Leeds is split into E
  434. 14:54uh E numbers. So, on west we have W1, 2,
  435. 14:573, and 4. Those areas were then sub
  436. 14:59split down with with letters as well.
  437. 15:00So, uh W1 was uh W1A was Manchester
  438. 15:04Victoria approaches and Miles Platting.
  439. 15:06Um
  440. 15:08the 2A was uh Stalybridge, and then W4
  441. 15:12uh is Morley and the line speed
  442. 15:13increases between Morley and Leeds.
  443. 15:16So, a quick update on where we're up to.
  444. 15:19Uh completed the works in
  445. 15:212020 for uh line speed increases coming
  446. 15:24out of Manchester Victoria. So, that
  447. 15:26involved the replacement of uh Dantzic
  448. 15:28Bridge just outside Manchester Victoria
  449. 15:30station, which was a major major closure
  450. 15:32of both the tram lines and the the
  451. 15:34railway. Um
  452. 15:36the the the bridge not only was life
  453. 15:39expired and needing renewing anyway, we
  454. 15:40couldn't do line speed increases over it
  455. 15:42without without doing those works.
  456. 15:46So, Miles Platting curve. Uh we actually
  457. 15:48looked at various options for Miles
  458. 15:49Platting curve. Uh more major scheme
  459. 15:51demolishing several bridges and
  460. 15:52remodeling junctions and going well
  461. 15:53outside the network rail boundary.
  462. 15:56Um which was 60 mph with a 55 mph scheme
  463. 15:59that stayed within boundary. We could
  464. 16:01see remodel the entirety of Miles
  465. 16:03Platting junction.
  466. 16:06We had a a lesser scheme or the smaller
  467. 16:08scheme was 50 mph, which only required
  468. 16:11um some minor earthworks and
  469. 16:13reconstruction or widening of uh Queen's
  470. 16:16Road Bridge.
  471. 16:18Now, through development, we ended up
  472. 16:19So, that's the option we picked. Uh
  473. 16:20through development, we actually ended
  474. 16:22up with a 55 mph scheme utilizing
  475. 16:24exceptional efficiencies with this just
  476. 16:26slightly cutting the corner off a little
  477. 16:27bit more.
  478. 16:28Um what does it look like? So, widening
  479. 16:31Queen Street Bridge. Um that's the some
  480. 16:33of the final engineering works. And you
  481. 16:35can see the old alignment on the
  482. 16:36right-hand side um the new uh
  483. 16:39cutting the corner off scheme on the
  484. 16:40left-hand side.
  485. 16:44So, that's a minute of journey time
  486. 16:46saving just with one one intervention
  487. 16:48that's about quarter of a mile long.
  488. 16:50Stalybridge.
  489. 16:52Um we looked at various schemes, some
  490. 16:54capacity schemes, some line speed
  491. 16:56increase schemes. So, quickly we'll see
  492. 16:58through these just to show the volume of
  493. 16:59the work that that we've actually looked
  494. 17:00at on TRU. So, that's that's the
  495. 17:02existing layout as a single line diagram
  496. 17:04form at Stalybridge. So, it's 50 mph at
  497. 17:06the west end of the station and 50 mph
  498. 17:09towards Manchester Piccadilly, which is
  499. 17:11the bottom left. Um uh sorry. Yeah,
  500. 17:14bottom left. Top left is the route to uh
  501. 17:16Manchester Victoria, which is now the
  502. 17:17main route. So, ironically, the junction
  503. 17:20was actually re-handed 15-20 years ago
  504. 17:22um to make uh Piccadilly the priority
  505. 17:25route. And the intervention was
  506. 17:27implemented uh in the same couple of
  507. 17:29months that the DfT actually decided
  508. 17:30they wanted to send the trains back to
  509. 17:31Manchester Victoria. So, uh we re-handed
  510. 17:34the junction and we haven't re-handed it
  511. 17:36again. We've actually made it the same
  512. 17:37speed both ways, so they can choose
  513. 17:39whichever option they want in the future
  514. 17:40and it doesn't actually matter. So,
  515. 17:42we did look at numerous schemes. Uh
  516. 17:45an entire bypass scheme, so miss out
  517. 17:47Stalybridge station altogether.
  518. 17:50Um with the bypass station and put
  519. 17:52platforms on them, we can lose
  520. 17:53Stalybridge West junction.
  521. 17:55Um we looked at just line speed increase
  522. 17:58schemes without changing the capacity,
  523. 17:59so a version of 10.2 is is the one that
  524. 18:02we ended up with.
  525. 18:04Um looked to move the junction to the
  526. 18:06other end of the station.
  527. 18:08Looked to moving the station to the
  528. 18:09other end of the junction. All different
  529. 18:11ways of achieving um similar outputs. We
  530. 18:14looked at options that uh grade
  531. 18:16separated, so we didn't go for line
  532. 18:17speed increase, but went for capacity
  533. 18:19only and grade separated the junction
  534. 18:20with a quite severely graded uh flyover
  535. 18:23at the west end of the station.
  536. 18:25Um and then the the the very expensive
  537. 18:28scheme that nobody was interested in,
  538. 18:29which is do both, grade separate and get
  539. 18:31your full line speed increases and
  540. 18:33completely remodel the station at the
  541. 18:34same time.
  542. 18:36So, what did we end up with? Um
  543. 18:39So, in essence, exactly the same
  544. 18:41operational capability, but at a higher
  545. 18:43speed. So, the open and out junction
  546. 18:4525 mph open and out junction to get to
  547. 18:47Manchester Victoria has been replaced uh
  548. 18:49by a fixed up juice double junction at
  549. 18:5250 mph, so the route is now 50 mph both
  550. 18:55ways.
  551. 18:57Completed Easter of this year.
  552. 19:00Or last year, sorry. Uh with the OLE
  553. 19:02completed this year. So, about uh middle
  554. 19:04of August, the first
  555. 19:06uh electric train from uh Manchester
  556. 19:08Victoria to Stalybridge uh was entered
  557. 19:10into service,
  558. 19:11uh which has made a a huge difference.
  559. 19:14So,
  560. 19:15um
  561. 19:16electrification to Stalybridge. Why was
  562. 19:18electrification to Stalybridge so
  563. 19:20important and why is it an early phase
  564. 19:22of TRU? Cuz the remainder of the route
  565. 19:24beyond Stalybridge isn't going to happen
  566. 19:25for at least another 7 years. So, why
  567. 19:27was it important to get get the wires as
  568. 19:29far as Stalybridge? The reason for that
  569. 19:31is lack of um platform capacity at
  570. 19:33Manchester Victoria.
  571. 19:35So, all the electrified uh services that
  572. 19:37we've introduced as part of NWEP from
  573. 19:39the west of Manchester coming to
  574. 19:40Manchester, get to Manchester Victoria,
  575. 19:43and they can't go any further because
  576. 19:44there's no wires. So,
  577. 19:45uh two of those services are now all
  578. 19:47don't terminate in Manchester Victoria.
  579. 19:48They actually terminate at Stalybridge.
  580. 19:50So, we need the capability of those
  581. 19:51electric trains to carry on through
  582. 19:53Marsden Victoria. So, that's that's the
  583. 19:54reason why Stalybridge was one of the
  584. 19:57early electrification schemes.
  585. 20:01Moving over towards Leeds, so Morley
  586. 20:02station.
  587. 20:04Um
  588. 20:05So,
  589. 20:06existing Morley station, or the now
  590. 20:08redundant Morley station on the
  591. 20:09right-hand side there, immediately
  592. 20:10outside the portal of Morley tunnel, on
  593. 20:12quite a sharp curve. So, on the
  594. 20:14left-hand photo there, you can see the
  595. 20:15old station in the background, and the
  596. 20:17construction of a new station in the
  597. 20:18foreground.
  598. 20:20So, the existing station is on roughly a
  599. 20:21450-m radius, which limits the speed to
  600. 20:24about 55 mph. But, because of its very
  601. 20:27tight six-foot, it's actually limited to
  602. 20:2840 mph to get any passing clearances, 45
  603. 20:30mph to get any passing clearances. So,
  604. 20:33combination of tight six-foot and radii
  605. 20:37meant very low speed through the
  606. 20:38existing platform. Simply moving that
  607. 20:40station 300 m did two things. One, went
  608. 20:44from a 450-m radius to a 730-m radius,
  609. 20:47which meant we could up the speed from
  610. 20:4845 to 70 mph. Just by moving the station
  611. 20:51onto a slightly flatter bit of curve.
  612. 20:54It also enabled us
  613. 20:55to fit a signal between the tunnel and
  614. 20:57the station.
  615. 20:59It doesn't sound that important, but it
  616. 21:00is when it comes to managing trains
  617. 21:02within the tunnel. So, we've actually
  618. 21:03introduced signals within tunnel within
  619. 21:05a tunnel.
  620. 21:06We're applying what we call tunnel
  621. 21:07controls. So, the round London
  622. 21:09Thameslink, they have multiple trains in
  623. 21:11the tunnel at the same time, but they're
  624. 21:12London's a special case. We're
  625. 21:14generically not allowed to have multiple
  626. 21:16trains in the tunnel at the same time.
  627. 21:17So, we have what's called tunnel
  628. 21:18controls, which does allow us to do
  629. 21:20that, but we'll only allow the second
  630. 21:22train into the tunnel if the first train
  631. 21:24has a signaled cleared cleared exit. So,
  632. 21:26you're not planning on stopping the
  633. 21:28train in the tunnel. You could in
  634. 21:29emergency, but you don't plan on
  635. 21:30stopping the train.
  636. 21:31So, if that first of the two trains
  637. 21:33stops at Morley, the second train can't
  638. 21:35enter the tunnel.
  639. 21:36But, if it's one signal section beyond
  640. 21:38the tunnel, it now can because it's
  641. 21:39cleared the exit signal. Um so, it's
  642. 21:42actually from an operational perspective
  643. 21:43and signaling perspective, it makes a
  644. 21:45big difference, not just from a line
  645. 21:46speed increase perspective.
  646. 21:50Uh that's the track track works enabling
  647. 21:52works uh before we started building the
  648. 21:53platforms.
  649. 21:55Uh and that's our
  650. 21:56finished station as of last year.
  651. 21:59Few teething problems getting the lifts
  652. 22:01lifts working, and there was some
  653. 22:03there was an issue with the copers uh
  654. 22:05being out of tolerance to the track on
  655. 22:07one of the platforms, uh but all that
  656. 22:09all that is sorted now.
  657. 22:11I'll come back to talk about platforms
  658. 22:12on curves later on and train dispatch
  659. 22:14because uh
  660. 22:15the were issues associated with them.
  661. 22:18Um nothing to do with line speed
  662. 22:20increase, but we also put additional
  663. 22:22crossover in at Batley.
  664. 22:24Um
  665. 22:25This is actually needed for next uh next
  666. 22:28year's W or the start of the W3 big
  667. 22:30blockades next year. So, this having a
  668. 22:32crossover, the facing crossover at
  669. 22:34Batley allows a stopping train to run
  670. 22:36from Leeds, crossover onto the wrong
  671. 22:38line, and run signaled wrong road
  672. 22:39through Batley station to Dewsbury,
  673. 22:41where it can turn back and go to Leeds,
  674. 22:43which means we can still operate a Leeds
  675. 22:45to um Dewsbury shuttle service picking
  676. 22:48up all the stopping stations while we're
  677. 22:50doing our major blockades around
  678. 22:52Huddersfield.
  679. 22:55So, back to line speed profile. So, I
  680. 22:57mentioned all the elements of work
  681. 22:59that's already been done.
  682. 23:01Uh one phase that's still in development
  683. 23:02it is W2B and W2C.
  684. 23:06Um so, the reason part of the reason
  685. 23:08that's still in development is this is
  686. 23:10the one part of the scope that's still
  687. 23:11not fixed. So, I mentioned earlier about
  688. 23:13introduction of additional freight
  689. 23:15trains. Um
  690. 23:17we require additional capacity, i.e. a
  691. 23:19third line uh between Marsden and
  692. 23:22Huddersfield to accommodate the slow
  693. 23:24trains running in the up direction up up
  694. 23:26the hill. So, because of the evolving
  695. 23:28scope associated with freight, um that
  696. 23:31portion of the program has has gone
  697. 23:33back. So, that's still in grip three.
  698. 23:35Um but, it's it's it's moving forward
  699. 23:37again for completion, I think, in 2032.
  700. 23:42Uh
  701. 23:43that part of the route also includes our
  702. 23:45worst structures from a gauge clearance
  703. 23:46perspective. Uh Stalybridge tunnel and
  704. 23:49Scout tunnel are
  705. 23:51tiny really really really small tunnels.
  706. 23:53Uh getting electrification and W12
  707. 23:56through there is about a 600-mil track
  708. 23:58lower to get through through the
  709. 23:59tunnels.
  710. 24:00Um particularly Stalybridge, it isn't um
  711. 24:03in the best of uh condition. The western
  712. 24:06half has shallow mine workings
  713. 24:08immediately under the tunnel, and the
  714. 24:10western third is sat on running sands.
  715. 24:13Uh so, there's no nice transition
  716. 24:13halfway through the tunnel. We're trying
  717. 24:15to do a track lower all the way through.
  718. 24:16So, we have a slab track solution for
  719. 24:19for both of those those tunnels, uh but
  720. 24:21it's a fairly major intervention and
  721. 24:23major closure of the route to to
  722. 24:24facilitate
  723. 24:26those works. There are various
  724. 24:28overbridges as well, but the tunnels are
  725. 24:29the are the main issue.
  726. 24:31Um then the the the the juicy element of
  727. 24:34today's presentation, which I've not
  728. 24:35even actually got onto yet, um
  729. 24:37is the W3 footprint, or in this case W3
  730. 24:40and the remainder of W4, which is around
  731. 24:42the Dewsbury area. So, it's either W3/4
  732. 24:46or W3 quarters, depending whether you
  733. 24:48want to be facetious or not. Um
  734. 24:51So, I mentioned earlier
  735. 24:53about fast trains catching stopping
  736. 24:55trains. It's not always good to go for
  737. 24:57really high line speeds cuz all it does
  738. 24:58it means the fast train catches the
  739. 25:00stopper quicker.
  740. 25:01Um so, generically on the route, we
  741. 25:03haven't really gone above 80 mph with
  742. 25:05one exception, and that's on the W3
  743. 25:07footprint.
  744. 25:08It's a big difference on the W3
  745. 25:09footprint though. Um we have four
  746. 25:11tracks, which I'm going to explain. So,
  747. 25:13it's currently two, but we're increasing
  748. 25:14it to four. The fact that we've
  749. 25:15segregated the fast trains from the slow
  750. 25:17trains and the freight trains, that
  751. 25:19differential now no longer makes
  752. 25:20difference. In fact, it helps cuz it
  753. 25:22allows the fast trains to to be able to
  754. 25:23get past the stoppers.
  755. 25:27So, more capacity. So, uh that was
  756. 25:30Heaton Lodge back in the 1980s before we
  757. 25:32stripped stripped out. So, the core to
  758. 25:34the right is now one track, and the
  759. 25:35second track from the left is also
  760. 25:37missing.
  761. 25:40So, where is W3 on the route? The
  762. 25:41section from Huddersfield through to uh
  763. 25:44just short of Dewsbury.
  764. 25:46A bit more of a sexy map than the one I
  765. 25:47had up earlier.
  766. 25:50And the key portion of that it's well,
  767. 25:52it's four-tracking all the way from
  768. 25:53Huddersfield to to Ravensthorpe, but the
  769. 25:55key portion is is Heaton Lodge to
  770. 25:57Ravensthorpe
  771. 25:58in the middle.
  772. 26:00So, why why is this key to TIU? So, what
  773. 26:03services run on TIU?
  774. 26:05So, we've got TransPennine services, uh
  775. 26:07which are we the remit is for four fast
  776. 26:10and two semi-fast services
  777. 26:12um
  778. 26:13between York and Hull through Leeds,
  779. 26:15Huddersfield through to Manchester
  780. 26:16Victoria.
  781. 26:18So, we've got TransPennine six
  782. 26:20TransPennine trains running.
  783. 26:22We've got four different one-an-hour
  784. 26:24services for for for stoppers, which uh
  785. 26:27mostly Northern, some of them being
  786. 26:28transferred to TransPennine, but they're
  787. 26:30going back to Northern again. But,
  788. 26:31you've got a Bradford-Huddersfield
  789. 26:32stopper, Leeds-Huddersfield stopper,
  790. 26:34Wakefield-Huddersfield stopper, and also
  791. 26:37a Calder Valley to Leeds stopper. You've
  792. 26:39now also got the TransPennine uh Leeds
  793. 26:42via Castleford to Manchester Piccadilly
  794. 26:43stopper as well in amongst all that lot.
  795. 26:46So, very conflicting moves across that
  796. 26:48that middle part of the route. Got Grand
  797. 26:50Central every other hour coming across
  798. 26:52the route from from Bradford through
  799. 26:54towards Wakefield.
  800. 26:56Um
  801. 26:57we did have East Coast wanting to run
  802. 26:59trains to Huddersfield, but those have
  803. 27:01now
  804. 27:02uh been that proposal's been withdrawn.
  805. 27:04And there's a lot of freight,
  806. 27:06uh which was originally predominantly
  807. 27:08via the Calder Valley and Brighouse, so
  808. 27:10from the top left. Uh with the recent
  809. 27:12change in the scope to for W12, all
  810. 27:14those W12 services run via Diggle. So,
  811. 27:17there's up to 15 trains a day each way
  812. 27:19via Diggle, as well as the 15-ish trains
  813. 27:22that run via the Calder Valley.
  814. 27:26So,
  815. 27:27that portion is called on the on on on
  816. 27:29on the program is the eye of the needle.
  817. 27:31It's the really really difficult part on
  818. 27:33TIU, and that's the area where we really
  819. 27:35need to deal with capacity. So, all the
  820. 27:37schemes I've just talked about are all
  821. 27:38line speed increase schemes. None of
  822. 27:40them got nothing to do with capacity. W3
  823. 27:43is a capacity scheme with line speed
  824. 27:45increases within it.
  825. 27:48So, not only do we have all these
  826. 27:50conflicting crossing services, we've
  827. 27:53also got um
  828. 27:55fast trains catching stopping trains.
  829. 27:56So, between Leeds and Huddersfield,
  830. 27:58there's seven station stops for a
  831. 27:59stopper. It pretty much takes four
  832. 28:01station stops for a fast train to catch
  833. 28:02a stopping train if they're in
  834. 28:05if they're in 15-minute separation. So,
  835. 28:08the ability to remove that stopper from
  836. 28:11the path of a fast train by the time it
  837. 28:12gets to Dewsbury or at least
  838. 28:13Ravensthorpe, it it is very important.
  839. 28:19So, what does that mean? So, that's the
  840. 28:20line diagram of the existing layout
  841. 28:22between Huddersfield through to
  842. 28:23Ravensthorpe. So, apart from that, a
  843. 28:25short three-track section from Heaton
  844. 28:27Lodge through to Ravensthorpe, which
  845. 28:28actually picks up the
  846. 28:30uh up um Wakefield trains, so the
  847. 28:33westbound Wakefield trains.
  848. 28:35Um
  849. 28:36we've pretty much got two-track railway.
  850. 28:39So, what we're proposing to do for TIU,
  851. 28:42uh I mentioned four-tracking, that's
  852. 28:43exactly what we're doing. We need to
  853. 28:45create fast lines to remove those four
  854. 28:47fast and two semi-fast services away
  855. 28:49from everything else. So, what does that
  856. 28:51look like?
  857. 28:53In essence, we turn the existing railway
  858. 28:56into a two-track railway.
  859. 28:58So, we get rid of the third line, put a
  860. 29:00double junction in at Ravensthorpe, and
  861. 29:02then we add two fast lines over the top
  862. 29:04to to get the fast trains out of there.
  863. 29:06I've slightly oversimplified, but that's
  864. 29:07in essence what we're doing. We're
  865. 29:08stripping down what's already there
  866. 29:10slightly, and then adding two through
  867. 29:11lines that avoids all the other traffic.
  868. 29:15So, from a line diagram perspective,
  869. 29:17that's what it looks like. So, I'm
  870. 29:18actually starting with a scheme that
  871. 29:19we've we've actually progressing, and
  872. 29:21I'll quickly run through all the the the
  873. 29:2310 other options that we we did actually
  874. 29:25look at at one time or another.
  875. 29:27So,
  876. 29:29um
  877. 29:31if I was going to talk through the
  878. 29:32option selection process, it would
  879. 29:33literally be a three-hour presentation.
  880. 29:35So, I'm I'm going to talk through the
  881. 29:36options that were considered, but not
  882. 29:37how they were considered and how they
  883. 29:39were sifted. Uh but, it was a very very
  884. 29:42uh exhaustive process.
  885. 29:44Uh it was it was probably three three
  886. 29:46different stages to get down from 10
  887. 29:47options then down to five options and
  888. 29:49then down to two and then to one. So, it
  889. 29:51was actually four stages. Uh
  890. 29:53we will call expert panel so
  891. 29:55um
  892. 29:56the appropriate development for the
  893. 29:57level of um
  894. 29:59investigation was being done. So, each
  895. 30:01time you sifted them down, you did more
  896. 30:02development until you got to the last
  897. 30:04two when we actually designed uh proper
  898. 30:06schemes and costed them and made a full
  899. 30:07operational assessment of the options.
  900. 30:09So, the version that's on screen there
  901. 30:12is is is the scheme that's been adopted
  902. 30:14and that's the
  903. 30:15four tracks all the way through on the
  904. 30:17south fast lines on the south side of
  905. 30:18the railway
  906. 30:20all the way between Ravensthorpe and
  907. 30:21Huddersfield with a grade separated
  908. 30:22junction at at Ravensthorpe including
  909. 30:25grade separating the slow lines coming
  910. 30:27from Leeds which we'll talk about a
  911. 30:29little bit more in a moment. The other
  912. 30:30main contender uh that got down to the
  913. 30:33last two so, layout number five in this
  914. 30:34instance um
  915. 30:36was uh fast lines to the north as far as
  916. 30:39Heaton Lodge then have your grade
  917. 30:40separation and then to the south as you
  918. 30:42as you're running to Huddersfield. Um
  919. 30:44so, operationally um it was meant at an
  920. 30:47at-grade junction at Ravensthorpe uh and
  921. 30:49there were different comp- uh
  922. 30:50complications from a consent perspective
  923. 30:53about having a uh grade separation in
  924. 30:55what's in essence in a in a cutting or
  925. 30:57pass half of it in a cutting at
  926. 30:59Ravensthorpe as opposed to highly
  927. 31:01visible um
  928. 31:03uh intrusive grade separation in the
  929. 31:05Heaton Lodge area. Uh but, it was a very
  930. 31:07very close decision.
  931. 31:09Um I think it was the the the option we
  932. 31:11chose was actually the slightly more
  933. 31:12expensive option uh but, it was easy
  934. 31:14from a consent perspective and
  935. 31:16operationally the better better layout
  936. 31:18because of the extra grade separation.
  937. 31:21Other options, Heaton Lodge area the the
  938. 31:24footprint uh was extremely constrained
  939. 31:26so,
  940. 31:28um
  941. 31:29this portion of the route to the uh west
  942. 31:31of Heaton Lodge is London Northwestern.
  943. 31:33Heaton Lodge through to Ravensthorpe is
  944. 31:34actually L&W Junction railway but, the
  945. 31:36London Northwestern fairly typical
  946. 31:38London Northwestern if they have four
  947. 31:40track railways but, they did it on the
  948. 31:41cheap but, it was four tracks at six
  949. 31:42foot so, you're pretty tight for space
  950. 31:44uh to to reinstate that. And in the
  951. 31:47Deighton area um
  952. 31:48we'd sold off some land so, uh there's a
  953. 31:50big warehouse which was at
  954. 31:51Poundstretcher I can't remember who owns
  955. 31:53it now. Um but, where they've sold off
  956. 31:55adjacent sidings and they've actually
  957. 31:57encroached on the on the main running
  958. 31:58lines as well so, it's very very tight
  959. 31:59area uh in there. So, we looked at an
  960. 32:02option of let's go down to three tracks
  961. 32:04for a short section to make it easier
  962. 32:06operationally that didn't work. So, that
  963. 32:08was that was removed.
  964. 32:10Um no new grade separation so, use the
  965. 32:12existing underpass at Cooper Bridge at
  966. 32:14Heaton Lodge.
  967. 32:15Uh and then work everything around that
  968. 32:18but, you've now got four at-grade
  969. 32:19junctions within about a mile and a half
  970. 32:21so, you've got Heaton Lodge
  971. 32:23Heaton Lodge but, two new junctions to
  972. 32:25get the slow lines across and Bradley
  973. 32:27Junction. So, operationally having four
  974. 32:28at-grade junctions within such a short
  975. 32:30length was was never really going to
  976. 32:32work so, that got discounted.
  977. 32:35Uh keep the slow lines on the north all
  978. 32:37the way through up to Huddersfield.
  979. 32:40Uh
  980. 32:40two disadvantages you now got the
  981. 32:42Bradley Bradley Wood curve so, you've
  982. 32:43got the slow trains joining the fast
  983. 32:45lines
  984. 32:46uh which means now they can pick up
  985. 32:47Bradley station if you put the new
  986. 32:49station on the old re- bubble station on
  987. 32:51the slow lines.
  988. 32:52Uh but, the fast lines are also taking
  989. 32:54the lower speed route so, going through
  990. 32:55the underpass at Cooper Bridge is 70 mph
  991. 32:58where the scheme we've we've picked is
  992. 32:59100 mph. And you're going around the
  993. 33:02north side of Huddersfield station which
  994. 33:03you'll see later as to why it's slower
  995. 33:05but, it's 25-30 mph around the back of
  996. 33:08the station whereas the lower number
  997. 33:09platforms at the bottom of the higher
  998. 33:11speed. So, to be at the south side is
  999. 33:13actually better for the fast line. So,
  1000. 33:14all that works uh there are additional
  1001. 33:17uh operational conflicts with the
  1002. 33:19Bradford stopper joining the fast lines
  1003. 33:21and it's a lower speed solution.
  1004. 33:24You could get rid of the
  1005. 33:25Bradford trains by putting a massive
  1006. 33:26flyover in but, that was uh verging on
  1007. 33:28unachievable uh
  1008. 33:31without building a extremely long
  1009. 33:32viaduct.
  1010. 33:34Uh that's actually a variant on the
  1011. 33:35scheme that we've adopted.
  1012. 33:38Uh
  1013. 33:39instead of having the fast lines to the
  1014. 33:40north or the south, put them through in
  1015. 33:42the middle. So, instead of grade
  1016. 33:43separating ones, we do half a grade
  1017. 33:44separation twice so, half of it at
  1018. 33:46Ravensthorpe and half of it at Heaton
  1019. 33:48Lodge. Operationally that's
  1020. 33:50significantly better
  1021. 33:51uh but, increased cost cuz you're doing
  1022. 33:53two although they're only single track
  1023. 33:54grade separations, you're doing them at
  1024. 33:56two locations. So, it's a higher cost
  1025. 33:59and it's actually harder from a
  1026. 34:00maintenance perspective. If you need to
  1027. 34:01maintain the fast lines but, your slow
  1028. 34:03lines are operational, you've then got
  1029. 34:04to cross the slows to get the fast which
  1030. 34:06is the issues that you've got on the
  1031. 34:07main Leeds Cross main line. So, um
  1032. 34:10having pairs of up down up down
  1033. 34:12arrangement is far easier to block two
  1034. 34:14and get your maintenance access than it
  1035. 34:15is to have up up down down arrangement.
  1036. 34:17So, although operationally that is
  1037. 34:19better, uh it was more expensive and
  1038. 34:21it's it's actually harder to maintain.
  1039. 34:23Um half and half of having the fast on
  1040. 34:25the outside instead of the inside.
  1041. 34:27We looked at having the fast lines in
  1042. 34:29the center all the way through as far as
  1043. 34:30Huddersfield.
  1044. 34:32And we looked at doing the opposite
  1045. 34:33having the slow lines in the center all
  1046. 34:35the way through to Huddersfield. So,
  1047. 34:36there were lots and lots of options that
  1048. 34:38we looked at. We even looked at off off
  1049. 34:41boundary schemes. So, the yellow line
  1050. 34:42you can see there is the original
  1051. 34:44Midland Railway branch line that went
  1052. 34:46from
  1053. 34:47Mirfield through to Huddersfield. We
  1054. 34:49even looked at reinstating part of that
  1055. 34:50for for the slow lines.
  1056. 34:53So, instead of trying to squeeze extra
  1057. 34:55tracks on the existing footprint within
  1058. 34:56the current land boundary, uh compulsory
  1059. 34:58purchase back the old track bed and go
  1060. 35:00via the old Midland route for the slow
  1061. 35:01lines to get to Huddersfield.
  1062. 35:06We even looked at massive massive left
  1063. 35:08field left field big bang schemes. So,
  1064. 35:11this will make few people smile but,
  1065. 35:13let's forget the existing railway. Let's
  1066. 35:15build a HS2 railway all the way from
  1067. 35:18Ravensthorpe through Huddersfield to
  1068. 35:20beyond Huddersfield so, almost up to
  1069. 35:22Slaithwaite.
  1070. 35:23So, I'll I'll just zoom in slightly on
  1071. 35:25that. So, the idea of this is instead of
  1072. 35:28upgrading the entirety of TIU to get on
  1073. 35:30west of Leeds roughly a 10-minute
  1074. 35:32journey time
  1075. 35:33if you could forget the existing railway
  1076. 35:35and build a much bigger scheme for a
  1077. 35:37short stretch at much much higher speed,
  1078. 35:40uh could you get that entire journey
  1079. 35:41time just with one one off-line scheme
  1080. 35:43which removes all the disruption of
  1081. 35:45upgrading the existing railway just
  1082. 35:47building a new one. So, if we come up at
  1083. 35:49Ravensthorpe on the right hand side,
  1084. 35:51follow the hillside uh as far as you
  1085. 35:53can, couple of viaducts there in blue
  1086. 35:55and then you disappear into a a very
  1087. 35:57long tunnel under Kirkheaton
  1088. 36:00uh back out
  1089. 36:01uh to a short viaduct on the approach to
  1090. 36:03to Huddersfield back into another
  1091. 36:04tunnel, another viaduct over the valley
  1092. 36:07at Huddersfield with a new
  1093. 36:09station intersecting the existing
  1094. 36:11station. So, at the east end of the
  1095. 36:12existing station at a higher level uh
  1096. 36:14creating intersecting station there,
  1097. 36:16carry straight on and miss out all the
  1098. 36:18horrible uh low speed reverse curves
  1099. 36:20coming out of Huddersfield and tie in um
  1100. 36:22in the Mirfield Bridge area.
  1101. 36:24So, the benefit of that scheme is it not
  1102. 36:26only gives you a much much higher speed
  1103. 36:28over that portion of route, it gave us
  1104. 36:30the sub option of um uh trains that miss
  1105. 36:33out Huddersfield as a stop. So, through
  1106. 36:35train so, you've got fast train and
  1107. 36:37we'll have a super fast train and
  1108. 36:38non-stop from Leeds to to Manchester.
  1109. 36:41That did actually get the same journey
  1110. 36:42time
  1111. 36:44improvement just doing that scheme as
  1112. 36:46everything else that we're currently
  1113. 36:47doing.
  1114. 36:48The the the problem was the cost.
  1115. 36:50So, it's actually the topography of that
  1116. 36:51part of the route. We had some very very
  1117. 36:53serious deep 100-m deep tunnels and
  1118. 36:55viaducts on the route. So, it was
  1119. 36:57feasible but, it was very expensive.
  1120. 37:00So, we've pretty much looked at
  1121. 37:01everything we could possibly do, all the
  1122. 37:03different arrangements on the existing
  1123. 37:04footprint and we've also looked at minor
  1124. 37:06schemes off footprint and then the the
  1125. 37:08big left field let's let's just forget
  1126. 37:10it and go go HS2 style scheme.
  1127. 37:15So, moving into grid three
  1128. 37:16of the 10 schemes that we had
  1129. 37:17previously, this is where Jim should
  1130. 37:19start to recognize what we what we what
  1131. 37:20I'm presenting.
  1132. 37:22Um so, we actually got the the the track
  1133. 37:24designer for Huddersfield from Arup's
  1134. 37:25Arup's in the room which is why I just
  1135. 37:27mentioned Jim. Sorry Jim for name
  1136. 37:28dropping you like that. Um
  1137. 37:30so, moving into grid three, we sifted
  1138. 37:32the 10 options down to to five options.
  1139. 37:35Uh so, one and five the top and bottom
  1140. 37:37ones were the ones that made it to the
  1141. 37:38final sift. The the middle ones are uh
  1142. 37:40all um fast lines in the middle or fast
  1143. 37:42lines on the outside all the way through
  1144. 37:44different variants.
  1145. 37:46So, we're going down to option one
  1146. 37:49which is the version that we've gone
  1147. 37:50for. I'll come back to that in a moment
  1148. 37:52of a grade separated junction at um
  1149. 37:54uh Ravensthorpe or Thornhill Junction at
  1150. 37:56the right hand side with the fast lines
  1151. 37:57all the way through on the south until
  1152. 37:59you get to Huddersfield.
  1153. 38:02Layout five was uh fast lines to the
  1154. 38:05north to Heaton Lodge and then the grade
  1155. 38:06separation there as I mentioned a couple
  1156. 38:08of minutes ago.
  1157. 38:10So,
  1158. 38:11that's the scheme that we are currently
  1159. 38:12presenting or currently um
  1160. 38:17progressing.
  1161. 38:18So, we've got the existing layout at the
  1162. 38:19top and the um the proposed layout at
  1163. 38:22the bottom with the red being the fast
  1164. 38:23lines picking up all the fast services
  1165. 38:25and the blue the slow lines picking up
  1166. 38:26your stoppers and all your freight
  1167. 38:28freight services.
  1168. 38:29And once you get to Huddersfield, how we
  1169. 38:30manage trains there, uh I've got some
  1170. 38:32more slides in a moment.
  1171. 38:34But, the plan is to keep everything as
  1172. 38:36separate as possible.
  1173. 38:39So, why why grade separate
  1174. 38:41at all the additional grade separation
  1175. 38:43at Ravensthorpe? So, layout one on the
  1176. 38:45left hand side, the adopted version
  1177. 38:48um
  1178. 38:49and why separate the two junctions? So,
  1179. 38:52uh the junction names are actually uh
  1180. 38:54out of date on there. So, Thornhill L&W
  1181. 38:55Junction is now Ravensthorpe straight
  1182. 38:57Ravensthorpe and Ravensthorpe Junction
  1183. 38:59is now called Bay Junction.
  1184. 39:02I'll explain why it's called Bay
  1185. 39:03Junction shortly.
  1186. 39:04Um
  1187. 39:05So, the reason for separating them is uh
  1188. 39:08if we have the two junctions a full
  1189. 39:10train length apart, it allows you to get
  1190. 39:13a s- uh stopping train so, if you're
  1191. 39:15coming from from Leeds
  1192. 39:17uh on the bottom line, the stopping
  1193. 39:18train can get off the fast line without
  1194. 39:20needing a forward route set onto the
  1195. 39:22slow lines. So, it doesn't matter what's
  1196. 39:23happening on the slow lines at
  1197. 39:24Ravensthorpe. That stopping train can
  1198. 39:26still get off the fast lines and release
  1199. 39:28the fast train behind it. It can
  1200. 39:30basically uh be held as it's a holding
  1201. 39:32line or capable of holding the stopping
  1202. 39:34train to then release that following
  1203. 39:36fast train as quickly as possible. As
  1204. 39:38soon as you have an at-grade junction,
  1205. 39:40uh that becomes far more difficult to
  1206. 39:41do. Which is a a little bit easy to see
  1207. 39:43on the next slide uh because the
  1208. 39:45junction is the opposite way around. So
  1209. 39:47if you go for the layout one that we've
  1210. 39:48got of the fast lines on the south, but
  1211. 39:50you put an upgrade junction, the little
  1212. 39:52red train there which is a stopper, now
  1213. 39:55can go on to the
  1214. 39:56up slow line until the down fast train
  1215. 39:58has passed. So you've got that
  1216. 39:59conflicting move that you need to
  1217. 40:01manage. You don't have that issue with a
  1218. 40:03grade separation. That train can just be
  1219. 40:04flighted and can get out of the way
  1220. 40:05quickly. So it's really important from a
  1221. 40:08not only from a
  1222. 40:09timetable planning, but from a
  1223. 40:10performance perspective. If that stopper
  1224. 40:12is running slightly late, it can get out
  1225. 40:13of the out of the way quicker.
  1226. 40:18So, four tracks up to Huddersfield, what
  1227. 40:20do we do at Huddersfield?
  1228. 40:23So that's the existing layout of
  1229. 40:24Huddersfield. You've got two lines
  1230. 40:25approaching from the Leeds end.
  1231. 40:28We've got the
  1232. 40:29platform, what's currently platform one
  1233. 40:31which is the up through line,
  1234. 40:33platform eight which is the down through
  1235. 40:35line at the top, and a center center
  1236. 40:37through line which is bi-directional but
  1237. 40:39generally used for turning back your
  1238. 40:40Manchester to Huddersfield stopper and
  1239. 40:42your Leeds to Huddersfield stopper. And
  1240. 40:44then you've got two very short bays as
  1241. 40:46well. One is two carriages long and one
  1242. 40:47is one carriage long. Just almost
  1243. 40:49useless.
  1244. 40:50So there's various constraints at
  1245. 40:51Huddersfield. It is a grade one listed
  1246. 40:53structure.
  1247. 40:55Which obviously includes the the the
  1248. 40:56facade at the front of the station, but
  1249. 40:58it also includes various elements within
  1250. 40:59the station. So the
  1251. 41:01the subway is part of the listing.
  1252. 41:04There are two of the original station
  1253. 41:06columns. And by original, I don't mean
  1254. 41:07the current roof that we've got. I mean
  1255. 41:08the the the 1830s roof.
  1256. 41:12So the what roof we currently got is
  1257. 41:141880s, I think. Something of those that
  1258. 41:17that ilk.
  1259. 41:18But those are the original original roof
  1260. 41:19columns.
  1261. 41:21We've got the tea rooms. So wooden tea
  1262. 41:23room on island platform. Well, tea rooms
  1263. 41:24in themselves aren't particularly
  1264. 41:26significant, but apparently that's the
  1265. 41:27only one in existence in the country
  1266. 41:29that's located on an island platform. A
  1267. 41:31little bit tenuous, but a wooden tea
  1268. 41:33room on an island platform is now unique
  1269. 41:35in the country. So that's actually quite
  1270. 41:37an important part of the listing as
  1271. 41:38well.
  1272. 41:39Elements that are listed but not part of
  1273. 41:41the station, so the goods goods
  1274. 41:43warehouse adjacent and the goods wagon
  1275. 41:45lift on the side are listed. Grade two
  1276. 41:48listed but separate listing.
  1277. 41:50And then there was a tongue-in-cheek
  1278. 41:51element that for a while all the
  1279. 41:53redundant class 1142s were were stable
  1280. 41:56there. So somebody had a joke that
  1281. 41:57somebody would try and list those as
  1282. 41:58well.
  1283. 42:01So developing layouts for Huddersfield,
  1284. 42:03we've got four tracks coming in. So the
  1285. 42:05first option is just retain what we've
  1286. 42:06already got. Let's keep the the bays in
  1287. 42:08the middle, try and make them a little
  1288. 42:09bit longer,
  1289. 42:10and keep the the platform arrangement
  1290. 42:12kind of as it is. However, this
  1291. 42:13instance, we've got the up and down main
  1292. 42:15through the bottom two through
  1293. 42:16platforms, and all the stopping services
  1294. 42:19in both directions using one line
  1295. 42:21through through all the through stopping
  1296. 42:22services using one line at the north of
  1297. 42:24the station. Operationally very
  1298. 42:26restrictive and that that wasn't
  1299. 42:28continued.
  1300. 42:31So same again but add a through
  1301. 42:34platform. So we've now got two fast
  1302. 42:36through fast platforms on the south, two
  1303. 42:38through slow platforms on the north,
  1304. 42:40and two bays in the center of the
  1305. 42:42station.
  1306. 42:43And that's trying to keep the the
  1307. 42:46rooms up to to to make room for
  1308. 42:47lengthening the platforms.
  1309. 42:49The one pro main problem with that is
  1310. 42:51the size of the second train shed, the
  1311. 42:53smaller train shed at Huddersfield. So
  1312. 42:55that's a photograph from the early 1980s
  1313. 42:57before they demolished
  1314. 42:59the eastern half of the train shed. It
  1315. 43:02did actually extend over the bay
  1316. 43:03platform. So the columns supporting the
  1317. 43:05small train shed are roughly 2 m from
  1318. 43:07the platform edge. So way below the
  1319. 43:09minimum of two and a half, and nowhere
  1320. 43:11near the 3.3 m we need to get a ramp in
  1321. 43:14there to to remove
  1322. 43:15mobility impaired persons from from the
  1323. 43:18train. So extending
  1324. 43:20removing the tea room and extending the
  1325. 43:22bays in there would have been
  1326. 43:23very difficult from a consent from a
  1327. 43:25from a
  1328. 43:26compliance perspective because of
  1329. 43:28because of those columns. And also the
  1330. 43:30roof the the shed roof is significantly
  1331. 43:32lower, so it would also be a bit of a
  1332. 43:34challenge to get your your wires
  1333. 43:35underneath there as well.
  1334. 43:37So that option was discounted. So the
  1335. 43:40two versions they are similar to what we
  1336. 43:42what we've adopted, but basically two
  1337. 43:44four through platforms with a a single
  1338. 43:46west facing bay on the north end. I've
  1339. 43:48I've ignored Penistone platform for the
  1340. 43:50time being. I'll come back to that in a
  1341. 43:51moment. But in essence, four through
  1342. 43:54platforms and a bay to the north. So
  1343. 43:56this version is to have two fast
  1344. 43:59platforms to the south. So up down fast
  1345. 44:02at the south, and up down slow at the
  1346. 44:03north. Similar version where you've got
  1347. 44:05the up fast and up slow at the bottom,
  1348. 44:07and the up fast and up slow at the top.
  1349. 44:09So just a different way of arranging it.
  1350. 44:12And that's the layout that we we ended
  1351. 44:14up with.
  1352. 44:16I'll talk about why there's so much S&C
  1353. 44:19in a moment because there was quite
  1354. 44:20quite a lot of effort we had to put into
  1355. 44:22justify
  1356. 44:23providing that and keeping it.
  1357. 44:26But that's the layout we've got. So
  1358. 44:27there's various various elements of the
  1359. 44:30layout that are quite important. So the
  1360. 44:32ladder from the top right that runs all
  1361. 44:33the way across,
  1362. 44:35point of that is to try and get
  1363. 44:37get that in at 40 mph. So that was one
  1364. 44:39of the main objectives. We ended up
  1365. 44:41trying to turn the dies all the west end
  1366. 44:43S&C at 40. But that ladder specifically
  1367. 44:45to try and get freight trains through
  1368. 44:47the station. So up freight trains
  1369. 44:49towards Manchester through the stations
  1370. 44:50as quickly as we can.
  1371. 44:52So the only one line that high speed
  1372. 44:53through the station is platform two.
  1373. 44:55Currently platform one, we'll renumber
  1374. 44:57them so that they're in geographical
  1375. 44:58order.
  1376. 44:59Um
  1377. 45:00So platform two is the only high speed
  1378. 45:03line through the station in the up
  1379. 45:04direction. So we want to be able to get
  1380. 45:06the trains across the layout, freight
  1381. 45:07trains across the layout, through
  1382. 45:09platform two at 40 mph, and hit the
  1383. 45:11bottom of the bank up to Standedge at
  1384. 45:13the highest possible speed. Because at 1
  1385. 45:15in 105 grade, and whatever speed those
  1386. 45:17trains hit the bottom of the hill, they
  1387. 45:18tend to be still doing at the top of the
  1388. 45:20hill. They can't accelerate because of
  1389. 45:22the weight of the train on on that
  1390. 45:23grade. So it's important we try and get
  1391. 45:25that train through the station quickly.
  1392. 45:28Hence that ladder.
  1393. 45:29There's one high speed
  1394. 45:31crossover in the layout. So coming out
  1395. 45:33of platform four going from left to
  1396. 45:34right. That's a 60 mph crossover. That
  1397. 45:38is
  1398. 45:39basically on a 1 in 100 falling
  1399. 45:41gradient. An electric train can
  1400. 45:42accelerate to 60 mph very quickly. It
  1401. 45:45can accelerate to 40 in pretty much
  1402. 45:46their own length.
  1403. 45:47So that one crossover in the middle of
  1404. 45:49the layout is to allow a fast train, a
  1405. 45:51down down Leeds
  1406. 45:53fast train to come out platform four and
  1407. 45:55have unrestricted acceleration coming
  1408. 45:57out of the station. It's basically can
  1409. 45:58floor it and just keep going until he's
  1410. 46:00got up to the full line speed of 100
  1411. 46:02mph.
  1412. 46:05And that's the layout of the station
  1413. 46:07that we ended up with. So
  1414. 46:09I mentioned the Penistone line. So we've
  1415. 46:11got Penistone platform, four car
  1416. 46:12platform bottom left.
  1417. 46:14Looks to be longer than that.
  1418. 46:16That image.
  1419. 46:17And then all the remainder of the
  1420. 46:18platforms are all all eight car
  1421. 46:20platforms. Eight times 24 m was the
  1422. 46:23remit. It's a generic DFT remit. The
  1423. 46:26trains that will actually be using them
  1424. 46:28are six times 24 for stopping services,
  1425. 46:31and for what currently five but in the
  1426. 46:33future seven car 802s which is seven
  1427. 46:35times 26 m. So you've got seven times 26
  1428. 46:38m train using a eight times 24 m long
  1429. 46:41platform. I mean 200 m platform.
  1430. 46:44Once you add the allowances.
  1431. 46:46So we ended with four through platforms
  1432. 46:48and one bay platform, all 200 m in
  1433. 46:50length.
  1434. 46:52And you'll see on there that those
  1435. 46:53platforms are not straight, which has in
  1436. 46:56itself caused us some problems. So
  1437. 46:59the layout was actually particularly the
  1438. 47:00west end of the station was difficult to
  1439. 47:02design. So the original north tunnel,
  1440. 47:05Huddersfield north tunnel, the geometry
  1441. 47:07of that, you come out of the tunnel
  1442. 47:08feeds into the lowest of the platforms
  1443. 47:10at Huddersfield.
  1444. 47:12So we've got the the So when they
  1445. 47:14increased the size of the station and
  1446. 47:15four tracked it in the station, they
  1447. 47:17went to the north and the tunnels they
  1448. 47:18built the south tunnel. So we went to
  1449. 47:20the south at one end and the north
  1450. 47:21through the middle of the station. Which
  1451. 47:23creates a horrible dog leg through the
  1452. 47:24middle of the station to try try and fit
  1453. 47:26through.
  1454. 47:27So our constraint, you see that's the
  1455. 47:29proposed that's our current layout. So
  1456. 47:31we've got constraints of the tunnel and
  1457. 47:33the geometries
  1458. 47:35at the western end.
  1459. 47:37We've got the station and the listed tea
  1460. 47:39room in the middle. We've got the
  1461. 47:40viaduct pinch pulling it down at the
  1462. 47:42eastern end. And then we've got listed
  1463. 47:44goods shed at the top. So there's
  1464. 47:46various constraints in there that we had
  1465. 47:47to try and fit fit this layout through.
  1466. 47:50Now, we've had quite a lot of challenge
  1467. 47:51from from the talks about installing
  1468. 47:53curved platforms, and I'll talk about
  1469. 47:55the problems with dispatch in a moment.
  1470. 47:57But just to demonstrate what would have
  1471. 47:59been needed if if the talks had have got
  1472. 48:00their own way of having straight
  1473. 48:01platforms 200 m length, we'd have to
  1474. 48:03rebuild Huddersfield tunnel, wipe out
  1475. 48:05several listed structures, and and widen
  1476. 48:07the the viaduct at the other end. So
  1477. 48:11that's just demonstrate the quantum of
  1478. 48:12extra work that would be required to get
  1479. 48:14the fully desirable
  1480. 48:15platform, straight platforms.
  1481. 48:19So from a dispatch perspective,
  1482. 48:21not necessarily about compliance or
  1483. 48:23compliant platform,
  1484. 48:25radius on the platform is 1,000 m.
  1485. 48:28Um
  1486. 48:29RSSB generally not that fussed till you
  1487. 48:31go below 500.
  1488. 48:33As long as you've got good reason to
  1489. 48:34curve a platform, they will they will
  1490. 48:36generally accept that.
  1491. 48:37Um
  1492. 48:38but you really need to consider the
  1493. 48:40dispatch of a train. So the black the
  1494. 48:42lines that are on there, the black lines
  1495. 48:43that are on there, are lines of sight
  1496. 48:45from the very end of the platform. So if
  1497. 48:46you've got a 200 m long platform
  1498. 48:49on a 1,000 m radius
  1499. 48:52with a compliant 3.3 m wide platform,
  1500. 48:55you cannot
  1501. 48:57undertake guard dispatch of that train
  1502. 48:59because that that guard would have to be
  1503. 49:01stood 5 and a half meters from the
  1504. 49:02platform edge to be able to see the full
  1505. 49:04length of the train.
  1506. 49:05So even if you have a compliant radius,
  1507. 49:07you still can't dispatch a train.
  1508. 49:09So the 800 m is the version we've got in
  1509. 49:12Huddersfield station,
  1510. 49:15which has its own issues.
  1511. 49:17But to to make a platform capable of
  1512. 49:20being dispatched or a guard being able
  1513. 49:21to see the full length of the train, it
  1514. 49:22would need to be 2,000 m off ladder for
  1515. 49:24that to work for an eight car train.
  1516. 49:28So we have had to as I mentioned
  1517. 49:29dispatch issues at Huddersfield. So some
  1518. 49:31visualizations of platform five where
  1519. 49:33the platform is on the outside of the
  1520. 49:34curve. If you're stood on the platform,
  1521. 49:36that the guard in the middle of the
  1522. 49:37train cannot see the full length of the
  1523. 49:39train. So, that's looking towards Leeds.
  1524. 49:41That's looking towards Manchester.
  1525. 49:43So, we've created some um line of sight
  1526. 49:46plots. So, a uh seven-car Class 802
  1527. 49:50uh with different versions of the train
  1528. 49:51in different positions on the platforms.
  1529. 49:54Uh but we've got two lines for each of
  1530. 49:55the from from each end of the train. One
  1531. 49:57is the obscuration from the train
  1532. 49:59itself, and one is the obscuration from
  1533. 50:02platform furniture.
  1534. 50:04So, platforms four uh uh six at the top
  1535. 50:07and and four uh three down there. Where
  1536. 50:10the platform's on the inside of the
  1537. 50:11curve, that hatched area is where the
  1538. 50:13guard needs to stand he can see the full
  1539. 50:14length of the train from that location.
  1540. 50:16So, it's relatively easy, subject to how
  1541. 50:18overcrowded the platform is, uh to be
  1542. 50:20able to dispatch a train where where the
  1543. 50:22platform is on the inside of the curve.
  1544. 50:24Where it's on the outside of the curve
  1545. 50:25is a real problem.
  1546. 50:27Uh as you can see there, that hatched
  1547. 50:29area, if we zoom in on that that area,
  1548. 50:31is very small. And with all the the
  1549. 50:33furniture that we've got within the
  1550. 50:34station and the waiting shelters that we
  1551. 50:35do need to provide, there isn't actually
  1552. 50:37a place where the guard can stand and
  1553. 50:39see the length of the train.
  1554. 50:40So, we are forced at Huddersfield into
  1555. 50:43having assisted dispatch or station
  1556. 50:45staff like you got at York, station
  1557. 50:46staff assisting the dispatch of a train.
  1558. 50:48Um which has its own implications. It's
  1559. 50:51mainly the OPEX cost of having So, one
  1560. 50:53dispatch staff requires three members of
  1561. 50:55staff. So, Huddersfield now requires
  1562. 50:57three additional members of staff to
  1563. 50:58assist in dispatch dispatch of trains.
  1564. 51:03Similar issue at Morley. I mentioned
  1565. 51:04Morley being curved earlier on. So, a
  1566. 51:06sim- similar um line of uh line of sight
  1567. 51:09plot, but this one's in 3D.
  1568. 51:11Uh so, if I zoom in there, um
  1569. 51:14this this area here is the area where
  1570. 51:15you can see the full length of the
  1571. 51:16train. So, we deliberately made the
  1572. 51:18platform at uh Morley 5.5 m wide to a
  1573. 51:22dispatch. And then we filled the
  1574. 51:23platform up with furniture, so you then
  1575. 51:25couldn't see the length of the train
  1576. 51:26again. So, in this instance, the the
  1577. 51:28CCTV mast takes up reason- it's still
  1578. 51:31small, but reasonable sized area to this
  1579. 51:33tiny little sliver in here. So, with the
  1580. 51:35CCTV mast being placed where it was, we
  1581. 51:37could no longer dispatch a train at
  1582. 51:39Morley, which is an unstaffed station,
  1583. 51:40so that wasn't going to work. So, it was
  1584. 51:41a very late alteration to get that CCTV
  1585. 51:44mast moved out of the way, so we were
  1586. 51:46actually capable of dispatching a train.
  1587. 51:49Reality now, interestingly, looks really
  1588. 51:50bad on the 3D model in when you stand
  1589. 51:52there on site, it doesn't actually look
  1590. 51:54as bad in in reality than in in the
  1591. 51:56theoretical version. Uh but it was still
  1592. 51:59an issue, and if we'd have left that
  1593. 52:00mast there, then then we we would have
  1594. 52:01had issues. Uh we've also got OLE masts
  1595. 52:04that are not in yet on site, but um they
  1596. 52:06they will also uh cau- cause a cause a
  1597. 52:09constraint.
  1598. 52:10So, the green line at the back is if you
  1599. 52:11had your unconstrained version in the
  1600. 52:13middle of the platform uh where that
  1601. 52:15line of sight would have been.
  1602. 52:21I think.
  1603. 52:27So, performance.
  1604. 52:29So, we need more reliable trains.
  1605. 52:31So, performance generically means more
  1606. 52:33flexibility from operational
  1607. 52:35perspective. It's not only how do you
  1608. 52:36manage perturbation, but how do you
  1609. 52:38manage a perturbation, but how do you
  1610. 52:40manage a train running 5 minutes late?
  1611. 52:42How do you manage the conflicts between
  1612. 52:44different operational moves?
  1613. 52:48So, we'd love a flexible layout, so we'd
  1614. 52:50love to put back in what used to be at
  1615. 52:51Huddersfield. So, let's put uh double
  1616. 52:53junctions in everywhere and double
  1617. 52:55slips, and we can go anywhere from
  1618. 52:56anywhere, and everyone's happy. But
  1619. 52:58obviously, we're not we're not going to
  1620. 52:59be doing that. So,
  1621. 53:02um
  1622. 53:05What alterations do we need to make to
  1623. 53:06layout? So, that's the diagram I had up
  1624. 53:08a few minutes ago of the the the layout
  1625. 53:10that we ended up with following
  1626. 53:12development.
  1627. 53:13Now, as soon as Network Rail got route
  1628. 53:15and ti- uh signals got to look at the
  1629. 53:17layout, they had very different
  1630. 53:18opinions. So, that's the version that
  1631. 53:20works for a timetable, but it doesn't
  1632. 53:22help run trains on the perturbation. So,
  1633. 53:24if you've lost your slow lines for some
  1634. 53:26reason, and all your trains your your
  1635. 53:28terminate trains that need to terminate
  1636. 53:29at Huddersfield from Leeds have to come
  1637. 53:31on the fast lines, you can only get into
  1638. 53:33platforms two and three from fast lines.
  1639. 53:36So, from a perturbation perspective,
  1640. 53:37that doesn't really work. So,
  1641. 53:40we actually need two extra crossovers,
  1642. 53:42which now allows us to get from the up
  1643. 53:44fast all the way across into platform
  1644. 53:45five. We can't get into all platforms,
  1645. 53:47but we can at least get across to
  1646. 53:48platform five.
  1647. 53:50So, we needed two extra crossovers.
  1648. 53:52Now, um given that we're we we had the
  1649. 53:54layout fairly well locked down at that
  1650. 53:55point, that was quite fairly painful
  1651. 53:57discussion to add two crossovers and add
  1652. 54:00the cost associated with that. So, we we
  1653. 54:02made the decision at the time to add one
  1654. 54:03crossover and move a different one.
  1655. 54:06In moving that crossover, we lost a
  1656. 54:08parallel move, which at the time we
  1657. 54:10didn't think was particularly
  1658. 54:11significant, but as I'll come back to
  1659. 54:12shortly, uh turns out it is fairly
  1660. 54:14significant. So, uh that's the one
  1661. 54:16regret on the development of the layout
  1662. 54:18for Huddersfield is not moving that
  1663. 54:21crossover instead of adding a crossover.
  1664. 54:27So, the layout that we've got for
  1665. 54:29Huddersfield, this is this is the actual
  1666. 54:30version that's designed now, single line
  1667. 54:32diagram version, what we're we are
  1668. 54:33currently building.
  1669. 54:35Uh so, what have we got there? So, we
  1670. 54:37still got the the ladder running across,
  1671. 54:38so 35 points all the way through to 28
  1672. 54:41points there.
  1673. 54:42Uh ladder to get the freight trains
  1674. 54:43through platform two.
  1675. 54:46Um
  1676. 54:48Up right there, 36 points leads into um
  1677. 54:51stable facility, so we've got side talk
  1678. 54:54sidings. So, we've got four
  1679. 54:56uh 100 well, 350 m and one 200 m long
  1680. 54:59side siding for Northern to stable there
  1681. 55:02out-of-service trains. Those are they
  1682. 55:04are currently sidings at the north side
  1683. 55:06of the station, which are taken up by
  1684. 55:07the new platforms. So, we needed to
  1685. 55:09provide an alternate facility. That is
  1686. 55:11at Hillhouse on the right-hand side of
  1687. 55:12the screen. And the benefit is that that
  1688. 55:14facility actually faces the station, so
  1689. 55:15it's a single empty stock move from the
  1690. 55:17station to the sidings instead of out
  1691. 55:19onto the running lines, reversing, and
  1692. 55:21going back into the sidings as they do
  1693. 55:22today. So, stabling at the uh right-hand
  1694. 55:25side, fast lines to the north, fast li-
  1695. 55:28sorry, slow lines to the north, fast
  1696. 55:29lines to the south.
  1697. 55:31Got flexibility through the middle of
  1698. 55:32the station.
  1699. 55:33So, the the diagram I showed you earlier
  1700. 55:35with having an up uh up down up down
  1701. 55:38arrangement or up up down down
  1702. 55:39arrangement, this is actually the merger
  1703. 55:41of the two. The reason we've got the
  1704. 55:42extra S&C and the diamond in the middle
  1705. 55:44is that we can actually run on the
  1706. 55:45bottom two tracks, the top two tracks,
  1707. 55:47the outside two tracks, which I'll which
  1708. 55:49I'll show you in a moment.
  1709. 55:51Um
  1710. 55:54It'd be lovely to have extra tracks at
  1711. 55:56the west end of Huddersfield.
  1712. 55:58Uh I mentioned I said earlier I'd I'd
  1713. 56:00ignored talking about the Penistone
  1714. 56:01line, so you've got the Penistone line
  1715. 56:02coming in uh from Sheffield um
  1716. 56:06through Barnsley uh Penistone and
  1717. 56:09through into platform one. We did have
  1718. 56:11schemes that that that put an extra
  1719. 56:13appliance, or the up fast shared to the
  1720. 56:16Penistone line, and we squeezed an extra
  1721. 56:17track through there. To do with that
  1722. 56:19though,
  1723. 56:20uh I'd remove the the version at the
  1724. 56:22moment where the Penistone line is in
  1725. 56:23essence a completely independent railway
  1726. 56:26into an independent platform.
  1727. 56:28The Penistone line's
  1728. 56:29timetable is completely divorced from
  1729. 56:31TIU. If we merge those and run the up
  1730. 56:34fast on the Penistone line briefly,
  1731. 56:36you've now linked the Huddersfield
  1732. 56:38timetable with the Sheffield timetable.
  1733. 56:40The Sheffield timetable already doesn't
  1734. 56:41work, so then linking it with
  1735. 56:43Huddersfield as well will make
  1736. 56:44everything fall over. So, it's a very
  1737. 56:46deliberate choice to retain the existing
  1738. 56:48scenario of keeping the Penistone line
  1739. 56:50completely independent on a day-to-day
  1740. 56:52operation. Obviously, 16 points is for
  1741. 56:54empty stock moves to get get in and off,
  1742. 56:56and engineers trains to get in on and
  1743. 56:57off the branch. Um deliberate choice to
  1744. 57:00to keep those separate. So, how else
  1745. 57:03could we get an extra track through
  1746. 57:04through uh through the tunnels? Well,
  1747. 57:06set track through the north bore was
  1748. 57:08originally two tracks. Um I mentioned
  1749. 57:10earlier that um Standly Bridge and Scout
  1750. 57:14tunnels were small. Huddersfield north
  1751. 57:15bore is even smaller. It's absolutely
  1752. 57:17minuscule. In fact, it looks like a
  1753. 57:19single bore tunnel, so they ever had two
  1754. 57:21tracks through it. Uh it's in the order
  1755. 57:23of a meter track lower, 1 m track lower
  1756. 57:25to be able to put the second track
  1757. 57:26through there. Um
  1758. 57:27which is actually easy to bore a new
  1759. 57:29tunnel, I think, than than than to start
  1760. 57:30doing that. So, um
  1761. 57:33unlikely to ever get built, but the spur
  1762. 57:36on 21B there coming to platform five,
  1763. 57:38that's for two reasons that that's
  1764. 57:39there. One is passive provision that
  1765. 57:41that can actually run if you ever bore
  1766. 57:42in another single bore tunnel to the
  1767. 57:44north, you can actually connect it in.
  1768. 57:46Uh and the other one is when a train
  1769. 57:47coming into platform five
  1770. 57:50uh has a proper overrun, so it's it's uh
  1771. 57:52overrun beyond the signal doesn't
  1772. 57:54actually go onto
  1773. 57:55head-on conflicting move with the down
  1774. 57:57train entering the station. So, the uh
  1775. 57:59to have that little spur up to above the
  1776. 58:01stop allows a signal overrun to to to to
  1777. 58:04go straight on instead of into into the
  1778. 58:06path of an oncoming train.
  1779. 58:10So,
  1780. 58:11um
  1781. 58:13Small things make make differences.
  1782. 58:15Nam- naming of lines. So, to the west of
  1783. 58:19east of the station, you've got the up
  1784. 58:20down fast, up down Huddersfield fast on
  1785. 58:23the south, and the up and down
  1786. 58:24Huddersfield slow on the north. And it's
  1787. 58:25just the up and down Huddersfield where
  1788. 58:27you go down to the two-track section.
  1789. 58:29Because of how they were named to the
  1790. 58:30east of the station, originally, the
  1791. 58:32platforms were numbered as the up and
  1792. 58:34down Huddersfield fast and up and down
  1793. 58:36Huddersfield slow. However, platform
  1794. 58:38four, which was labeled the up slow, was
  1795. 58:41intended to be used by the down fast
  1796. 58:43services.
  1797. 58:44So, although it seems nothing, as soon
  1798. 58:46as the timetables got hold of that, they
  1799. 58:47see the names and assume that the trains
  1800. 58:49have to go through those tracks. So,
  1801. 58:51they then turn around and say, "We can't
  1802. 58:52get this timetable to work." This is,
  1803. 58:54"Of course you can. We've got loads of
  1804. 58:55flexibility in the layout." "No, it no,
  1805. 58:56it doesn't work." And it's because
  1806. 58:58they've taken the track labels as a as
  1807. 58:59the down fast having to have the down
  1808. 59:01fast train running through it. Um so,
  1809. 59:03there's another battle. It's amazing how
  1810. 59:05difficult it is to get simple things
  1811. 59:06changed. But we've now got the up and
  1812. 59:07down fasts and slows to the west of the
  1813. 59:09station, we've got platform two line,
  1814. 59:11platform three line, four line, five
  1815. 59:13line through the station, and then goes
  1816. 59:14through and out of Huddersfield uh
  1817. 59:16purely to to stop that confusion in the
  1818. 59:18future.
  1819. 59:20So, what we've got on screen, uh green
  1820. 59:22uh fast services, blue uh
  1821. 59:24stopping services. So, how do we map
  1822. 59:26different versions of how we use
  1823. 59:28Huddersfield station?
  1824. 59:30So, um down fast train uh running
  1825. 59:33through platform four back over 30
  1826. 59:34points back onto the onto the down fast
  1827. 59:37line. So, 30 points is the fast turnout
  1828. 59:39that I mentioned earlier for the
  1829. 59:40unrestricted acceleration of the train
  1830. 59:42out of the station. Up fast trains
  1831. 59:44running through platform two with the
  1832. 59:46Manchester stopper turning having a
  1833. 59:48center turn back in platform three and
  1834. 59:50everything coming from the west all
  1835. 59:51filtering across into platforms five and
  1836. 59:53six. So, that's assuming we've got
  1837. 59:55what's called a split stopper
  1838. 59:56arrangement where the Manchester
  1839. 59:58Huddersfield stopper is different from
  1840. 1:00:00the Huddersfield to Leeds stopper. There
  1841. 1:00:02was a version where that is a through
  1842. 1:00:03stopping service that runs all the way
  1843. 1:00:05from Manchester through to Leeds or
  1844. 1:00:07Manchester through to York.
  1845. 1:00:09In that scenario,
  1846. 1:00:11platform three now is used for all up
  1847. 1:00:14stopping services and platform five for
  1848. 1:00:16all down stopping services and then
  1849. 1:00:18platform six for the Bradford train
  1850. 1:00:19which always always terminates at
  1851. 1:00:21Huddersfield. So, you've got that
  1852. 1:00:22flexibility. Now, in running that
  1853. 1:00:25through service,
  1854. 1:00:26at 33 points here, you've got your up
  1855. 1:00:29slow crossing your down fast services.
  1856. 1:00:32So, you've got an operational conflict
  1857. 1:00:34in the throat of the station.
  1858. 1:00:37Now, it's deemed better to manage it at
  1859. 1:00:40that end of the station because the fast
  1860. 1:00:41train's going to take priority. If you
  1861. 1:00:43have to stop a terminating stopping
  1862. 1:00:44services outside the station and hold it
  1863. 1:00:47for for a few minutes before you let it
  1864. 1:00:48in, it's not as big a deal as as the
  1865. 1:00:50impact of stopping a fast train that
  1866. 1:00:52then runs up to Edinburgh because
  1867. 1:00:53they're not going to affect
  1868. 1:00:55delays around the country as high for
  1869. 1:00:56that. However, the flexibility I
  1870. 1:00:59mentioned in the layout at the west end
  1871. 1:01:01means that if that stopping train is due
  1872. 1:01:03to get into the station before the down
  1873. 1:01:05fast leaves and that stopping train is
  1874. 1:01:07running late, you've now got that
  1875. 1:01:08conflict of both want to cross the
  1876. 1:01:09junction at the same time. The signalers
  1877. 1:01:11should know that within sufficient
  1878. 1:01:14advanced warning. So, because of the
  1879. 1:01:16flexibility in layout, you actually got
  1880. 1:01:18the option to swap those around at the
  1881. 1:01:19last minute. You swap the two trains on
  1882. 1:01:21the opposite face of the same platform.
  1883. 1:01:23So, you haven't got any passenger
  1884. 1:01:24management issues. They just go into the
  1885. 1:01:25opposite face of the same platform. You
  1886. 1:01:27now move that conflict from the east end
  1887. 1:01:29of the station to the west end of the
  1888. 1:01:30station. So, you've got the
  1889. 1:01:32the immediate flexibility in the day to
  1890. 1:01:34manage slightly out of sequence trains
  1891. 1:01:37and order that
  1892. 1:01:38that relocate that conflicting
  1893. 1:01:41operational conflict.
  1894. 1:01:44Freight trains mentioned earlier. So,
  1895. 1:01:46solid blue lines is the intended
  1896. 1:01:48route for freight and then the dotted
  1897. 1:01:50line is the alternative route. So, I
  1898. 1:01:51mentioned coming across the ladder 33 28
  1899. 1:01:54points through platform two. Can go
  1900. 1:01:55through platform three, but the where
  1901. 1:01:57the west end of platform three is 25
  1902. 1:01:59mph. So, you'll have that hit on on uh
  1903. 1:02:03uh train speed which will then compound
  1904. 1:02:05itself going up the hill because it will
  1905. 1:02:07pretty much stay at that speed.
  1906. 1:02:11So, that's day-to-day intended use. What
  1907. 1:02:13do you do under perturbation? So, you've
  1908. 1:02:15got unplanned failures. So, what happens
  1909. 1:02:16if you lose your slow lines? Where do
  1910. 1:02:18you run all your fast and slow services?
  1911. 1:02:20I'm not going to go in these as much
  1912. 1:02:21detail, but we looked at how how you
  1913. 1:02:23cope with the fast slow lines are
  1914. 1:02:24closed. If the fast lines are closed,
  1915. 1:02:26where do you send your services?
  1916. 1:02:28Um on a night time plan closure, slow
  1917. 1:02:31lines are closed, you can run it as a
  1918. 1:02:32two track railway. Fast lines are
  1919. 1:02:33closed, you can use in slows as a two
  1920. 1:02:35track railway. So, you've got all that
  1921. 1:02:36flexibility there. If you lost
  1922. 1:02:38everything at the Leeds end and you have
  1923. 1:02:40to terminate all Manchester trains, I
  1924. 1:02:43predominantly use platforms three and
  1925. 1:02:44four, but you can come into five, run up
  1926. 1:02:46to Hillhouse siding and come back into
  1927. 1:02:48platform two and head back towards
  1928. 1:02:49Manchester. So, lots of flexibility
  1929. 1:02:51there. And then again, if you lose the
  1930. 1:02:52Manchester trains, how do you manage all
  1931. 1:02:54your fast and stops and send stoppers
  1932. 1:02:55and send them back the other way?
  1933. 1:02:57So, all the different scenarios, the
  1934. 1:02:59layout has a lot of flexibility within
  1935. 1:03:01it
  1936. 1:03:03um
  1937. 1:03:05to manage perturbation. So,
  1938. 1:03:08mentioned flexibility. So, performance
  1939. 1:03:10is all about flexibility. You need to be
  1940. 1:03:12able to do different moves at the same
  1941. 1:03:14time. And again, this is quite
  1942. 1:03:15complicated, so I'm not I'm not going to
  1943. 1:03:16dwell on I'll just pick up on a couple
  1944. 1:03:18of ones. So, again, green in this
  1945. 1:03:19instance green is a down service, so
  1946. 1:03:21towards Leeds and red is a Manchester
  1947. 1:03:24bound service. So, all the solid lines
  1948. 1:03:28are moves that can happen at the same
  1949. 1:03:30time. So, you can have an up train in
  1950. 1:03:31red through platform two running all the
  1951. 1:03:33way through the same time as a down
  1952. 1:03:35train enters platform five at the same
  1953. 1:03:37time as another down train can leave
  1954. 1:03:39platform six. Lots of different versions
  1955. 1:03:43trains can
  1956. 1:03:44leave either five or six at the same
  1957. 1:03:46time as coming into four
  1958. 1:03:48and so on and so forth. There's lots of
  1959. 1:03:49different options there. So, you can
  1960. 1:03:51pretty much do nearly every parallel
  1961. 1:03:53move that you would want to do with one
  1962. 1:03:55exception because of the 22 points being
  1963. 1:03:58so close to the station, you cannot
  1964. 1:04:00leave platform two at the same time as
  1965. 1:04:01an up train is is entering platform
  1966. 1:04:03sorry, cannot leave platform three at
  1967. 1:04:05the same time as a an up train is
  1968. 1:04:06entering platform two. You have to wait
  1969. 1:04:08for that train to have stopped and be
  1970. 1:04:10timed out in platform two before three
  1971. 1:04:11can be released. So, that's the only
  1972. 1:04:13thing really that the layout doesn't do.
  1973. 1:04:15Otherwise, you've got the flexibility in
  1974. 1:04:16the overlaps at the end of the station
  1975. 1:04:18to manage pretty much anything to happen
  1976. 1:04:20at the same time.
  1977. 1:04:23So, I mentioned the missed opportunity
  1978. 1:04:25of the crossover. So, um removing the
  1979. 1:04:28crossover the facing crossover just at
  1980. 1:04:31the right end of platforms two and three
  1981. 1:04:33means that if you've got a down train
  1982. 1:04:35the green line leaving platform four the
  1983. 1:04:38same time as train is either in or
  1984. 1:04:40leaving platform two,
  1985. 1:04:42you cannot get into three at the same
  1986. 1:04:44time because of the the down train going
  1987. 1:04:46in the opposite direction. So, you can't
  1988. 1:04:47use 34 points because of the there's a a
  1989. 1:04:50down fast train going over it. So,
  1990. 1:04:51that's where the the relocated crossover
  1991. 1:04:55was was was probably a bit of an error
  1992. 1:04:58in losing that. Um there's a very good
  1993. 1:05:01chance that we will now have to do a
  1994. 1:05:02subsequent stage to
  1995. 1:05:05add that crossover back in. So, we've
  1996. 1:05:07got a nice lovely layout with all the
  1997. 1:05:09S&C wonderfully separated 20 m
  1998. 1:05:10separation between all the S&C units all
  1999. 1:05:13at a consistent 30 or 40 mph and then
  2000. 1:05:16we're going to have to squeeze in this
  2001. 1:05:17horrible little 25 mph crossover on a
  2002. 1:05:19curve at the entrance of the platform to
  2003. 1:05:22get back the the the parallel moves that
  2004. 1:05:24we probably should have resisted losing
  2005. 1:05:26a lot lot harder than we did.
  2006. 1:05:31So, how we staging TIU? So, September of
  2007. 1:05:35next year is the first major blockade at
  2008. 1:05:37Huddersfield. Huddersfield gets closed
  2009. 1:05:38for one month. During that month, we
  2010. 1:05:40complete the slow lines. So, everything
  2011. 1:05:42in black there will be complete at the
  2012. 1:05:45end of the blockade or should be
  2013. 1:05:46complete at the end of the blockade in
  2014. 1:05:47September next year.
  2015. 1:05:49So, that includes a temporary platform
  2016. 1:05:51at
  2017. 1:05:51Hillhouse on the right hand side which
  2018. 1:05:55is intended to manage stopping services.
  2019. 1:05:58So, the station itself is is reduced to
  2020. 1:06:00a two platform through station. So, that
  2021. 1:06:02can pick up all your your fast trains as
  2022. 1:06:03they do today, but there's no way to
  2023. 1:06:05terminate a stopping service because we
  2024. 1:06:07take out of action all the north end of
  2025. 1:06:08the station and over the course of the
  2026. 1:06:10year completely reconstruct it. So, we
  2027. 1:06:12build the slow lines
  2028. 1:06:14as far as 32 points with a temporary
  2029. 1:06:16alignment to get across into platforms
  2030. 1:06:17two and three and operate Huddersfield
  2031. 1:06:20as a two platform station with stopping
  2032. 1:06:22services intended to use the
  2033. 1:06:24Huddersfield Hillhouse platform.
  2034. 1:06:27There's a good chance now that
  2035. 1:06:29the TOCs don't want the hassle of having
  2036. 1:06:31to get passengers from Hillhouse to the
  2037. 1:06:33main station. We're probably just going
  2038. 1:06:35to divert all trains via the Calder
  2039. 1:06:37Valley and we'll just bus people the
  2040. 1:06:38extra two miles that it takes to get
  2041. 1:06:40from Brick House. So, you'll basically
  2042. 1:06:42you want to go to Huddersfield, you get
  2043. 1:06:43off at Brick House and get a bus bus to
  2044. 1:06:45Huddersfield. So, although we've
  2045. 1:06:47designed in the capability to that
  2046. 1:06:49platform, it's probably not going to get
  2047. 1:06:51built because of the the way that they
  2048. 1:06:52want to operate the diverted services.
  2049. 1:06:54So, that happens September next year.
  2050. 1:06:57You've got a year for the station to be
  2051. 1:07:00rebuilt. I think it's September the
  2052. 1:07:02following year, James. Is that correct?
  2053. 1:07:04It's roughly a year later. Might be
  2054. 1:07:05Christmas, so might be slightly over a
  2055. 1:07:07year where the rest of the station gets
  2056. 1:07:09commissioned. So, we've now got all the
  2057. 1:07:11platforms, all the west end layout. So,
  2058. 1:07:13this is the second one month blockade.
  2059. 1:07:15So, we've got the final station, but
  2060. 1:07:16without the fast lines commissioned. So,
  2061. 1:07:19we've got all the platforms, but we're
  2062. 1:07:20only feeding in now. The layout isn't
  2063. 1:07:21designed to have parallel moves with
  2064. 1:07:23every everything coming in constantly
  2065. 1:07:25off two platforms. It does work, but
  2066. 1:07:27it's it's more constrained than you've
  2067. 1:07:28got on the end end state layout.
  2068. 1:07:30I've hidden all the slides associated
  2069. 1:07:31with that cuz I thought you'd be getting
  2070. 1:07:32bored by now.
  2071. 1:07:35So, that's it for Huddersfield station.
  2072. 1:07:37We've uh
  2073. 1:07:39Hopefully, that demonstrates the volume
  2074. 1:07:40of effort that we're actually putting
  2075. 1:07:42into coming up with the layout that
  2076. 1:07:43we've got.
  2077. 1:07:44Um it's
  2078. 1:07:46at least six years worth of work to get
  2079. 1:07:48to the point we're at now. Um so,
  2080. 1:07:51nothing happens quickly on the railway,
  2081. 1:07:52but that's been constant work for those
  2082. 1:07:54six years. Two week two year chunk of
  2083. 1:07:56that was all Transport Works Act order
  2084. 1:07:59in the middle which we got roughly a
  2085. 1:08:01year ago. So, we've got the Transport
  2086. 1:08:02Works Act order signed off. So,
  2087. 1:08:04they're they're starting in earnest on
  2088. 1:08:05site now which I'll show you a a few
  2089. 1:08:07progress photographs at the end of the
  2090. 1:08:09presentation.
  2091. 1:08:10But, some of the other development items
  2092. 1:08:13stations. So, Deighton station which is
  2093. 1:08:15location beyond there, um
  2094. 1:08:17we were having to re completely rebuild
  2095. 1:08:19the station because the the current
  2096. 1:08:21tracks in the station in the middle of
  2097. 1:08:23the four track formation. So, to get
  2098. 1:08:24four tracks through there, we need to
  2099. 1:08:25shuffle everything around. So, we looked
  2100. 1:08:27at numerous different alternatives for
  2101. 1:08:29the station. Deighton was a 1980s
  2102. 1:08:33local authority built platform
  2103. 1:08:35um
  2104. 1:08:37that replaced the original Bradley
  2105. 1:08:39station which was at location H on
  2106. 1:08:41there. So,
  2107. 1:08:42and Deighton is one of the lowest used
  2108. 1:08:45stations usage stations in West
  2109. 1:08:47Yorkshire. So, we thought, well, okay,
  2110. 1:08:49we have to rebuild Deighton station. Is
  2111. 1:08:51Deighton station the right place to to
  2112. 1:08:52actually have the station? So, there's
  2113. 1:08:54quite an exhaustive option selection
  2114. 1:08:56process that looked at numerous
  2115. 1:08:57different locations.
  2116. 1:08:59We actually ended up back with
  2117. 1:09:01rebuilding station where it is now, but
  2118. 1:09:02we did go through quite an exhaustive
  2119. 1:09:04process to to determine the best place
  2120. 1:09:06for that.
  2121. 1:09:08And that's what our station looks like.
  2122. 1:09:09So,
  2123. 1:09:11at the moment the tracks are roughly
  2124. 1:09:13where the right hand lift shaft is
  2125. 1:09:14through the middle, two platforms and
  2126. 1:09:17one ramp long ramp coming down from the
  2127. 1:09:19the over bridge to to each of the
  2128. 1:09:20platforms. So, we rebuild the bridge,
  2129. 1:09:22the
  2130. 1:09:23retaining wall on the left hand side
  2131. 1:09:25gets cut back at least two or three
  2132. 1:09:26meters to make room for for slotting the
  2133. 1:09:29platforming in the middle where you
  2134. 1:09:30never had a platform originally
  2135. 1:09:32and with access only from the south side
  2136. 1:09:35of the railway instead of one one either
  2137. 1:09:37side of the bridge.
  2138. 1:09:41When we get to Heaton Lodge, the fast
  2139. 1:09:42lines on the south all the way through
  2140. 1:09:45the curve at Heaton Lodge is relatively
  2141. 1:09:47tight radius 70 was currently 70 miles
  2142. 1:09:49an hour to push it to its limits you get
  2143. 1:09:50about 80 miles an hour.
  2144. 1:09:53If you got the corner off we can get up
  2145. 1:09:54to 100 miles an hour.
  2146. 1:09:56So given that we've got capability of
  2147. 1:09:57110 between Ravensthorpe and Heaton
  2148. 1:09:59Lodge to the right hand side, 100
  2149. 1:10:01through here. It was actually chosen to
  2150. 1:10:04match through Deighton.
  2151. 1:10:06So Deighton is very tight reverse curves
  2152. 1:10:08through Deighton the maximum you can
  2153. 1:10:09ever get through Deighton is 100 miles
  2154. 1:10:11an hour so there's not a lot point going
  2155. 1:10:12more much more than 100 here. So we did
  2156. 1:10:14a 100 curve we did look at 110 115
  2157. 1:10:17options but this was the optimum from a
  2158. 1:10:19from a
  2159. 1:10:20earthworks perspective and impact on
  2160. 1:10:22structures particularly the river bridge
  2161. 1:10:24on the south end where we if we go any
  2162. 1:10:26flatter with the radius we start we end
  2163. 1:10:28up triggering the rebuilding of
  2164. 1:10:30another bridge.
  2165. 1:10:32Um
  2166. 1:10:34Interestingly this is one of our
  2167. 1:10:35cheapest interventions for line speed
  2168. 1:10:39benefit on the route so
  2169. 1:10:41um
  2170. 1:10:44From the business case perspective the
  2171. 1:10:45value of a second on west of Leeds
  2172. 1:10:48is roughly two million pounds per
  2173. 1:10:51second.
  2174. 1:10:53Okay.
  2175. 1:10:54As a rule of thumb it's between one and
  2176. 1:10:55two. If any intervention comes in at
  2177. 1:10:57less than one million pounds per every
  2178. 1:10:59second that that that that scheme
  2179. 1:11:02generates then it's an absolute
  2180. 1:11:04no-brainer you select that option. If
  2181. 1:11:06it's worse than three it's a no-brainer
  2182. 1:11:08you don't build it it's never going to
  2183. 1:11:09have a business case. If it's in between
  2184. 1:11:10it's subjective and that's where you
  2185. 1:11:12have to put more effort into the option
  2186. 1:11:13selection process to prove it.
  2187. 1:11:15This out of all the schemes on the route
  2188. 1:11:16worked out at the time about 300,000
  2189. 1:11:18pounds per second.
  2190. 1:11:21It was an off-line earthworks scheme
  2191. 1:11:22there wasn't a lot of railway systems
  2192. 1:11:24associated with it. Um so it was it was
  2193. 1:11:27actually one of the cheaper ones. We've
  2194. 1:11:28tried numerous times to say well let's
  2195. 1:11:30just stick on the boundary and keep it
  2196. 1:11:31at 80 miles an hour but those seconds
  2197. 1:11:33are
  2198. 1:11:34quite cheap seconds so looks like a big
  2199. 1:11:36scheme but it's actually one of the
  2200. 1:11:37better better schemes on TIU.
  2201. 1:11:41Mirfield station so we're actually
  2202. 1:11:45looking south here so the fast lines are
  2203. 1:11:47on the far side on the right hand side.
  2204. 1:11:50So Mirfield is currently a three
  2205. 1:11:52platform station
  2206. 1:11:54platform one on the left then two and
  2207. 1:11:55then three on the far side. Two isn't
  2208. 1:11:57actually used at the uh
  2209. 1:11:59previously.
  2210. 1:12:00Um so what we're doing is getting rid of
  2211. 1:12:02the
  2212. 1:12:03down the up loop get rid of the platform
  2213. 1:12:06everything goes on the up down slow so
  2214. 1:12:08we it's currently a three platform
  2215. 1:12:09station which becomes a two platform
  2216. 1:12:10station cuz all the stopping trains are
  2217. 1:12:12on the slow lines.
  2218. 1:12:16Ravensthorpe grade separated junction um
  2219. 1:12:20so we're actually going entirely off
  2220. 1:12:21track so called the bridges we ignore
  2221. 1:12:23the existing embankment we actually
  2222. 1:12:25overshoot the curve with the fast lines
  2223. 1:12:27get 110 miles an hour the slow lines
  2224. 1:12:29coming either side that follow it type
  2225. 1:12:31four tracks over the called the
  2226. 1:12:33navigation and the river Calder tie down
  2227. 1:12:35back down to two tracks at Deighton
  2228. 1:12:37junction
  2229. 1:12:38then we straighten out the reverse curve
  2230. 1:12:40at
  2231. 1:12:41Thornhill Road where there's a double
  2232. 1:12:43reverse in there so we cut cut that
  2233. 1:12:44corner off and then up to Dewsbury
  2234. 1:12:46station after Dewsbury it drops down to
  2235. 1:12:4890 then to 75 miles an hour as you go
  2236. 1:12:51back into the the existing geometry but
  2237. 1:12:53we've got a big chunk of 110 100 and 110
  2238. 1:12:55mile an hour between Huddersfield and
  2239. 1:12:58Dewsbury.
  2240. 1:13:02Mentioned Deighton junction
  2241. 1:13:04unusual unusual name to have various
  2242. 1:13:07people don't know where that name comes
  2243. 1:13:09from. So originally it was proposed as
  2244. 1:13:11Westtown junction. So Westtown is is the
  2245. 1:13:14the area within within Dewsbury but
  2246. 1:13:17equally nobody knew where where Westtown
  2247. 1:13:19was either so that
  2248. 1:13:20ops tend to like a location name
  2249. 1:13:23something location specific for a
  2250. 1:13:24junction
  2251. 1:13:26but Westtown was fairly generic in that
  2252. 1:13:27nobody on the railways knows where
  2253. 1:13:28Westtown is anyway. So it was decided to
  2254. 1:13:32call it Deighton junction and the
  2255. 1:13:33viaduct over the river is also going to
  2256. 1:13:35be called Deighton viaduct. That was
  2257. 1:13:37actually in recognition of
  2258. 1:13:39Stuart Baker. So
  2259. 1:13:42most of you probably haven't heard of
  2260. 1:13:43Stuart Baker but Stuart Baker was a
  2261. 1:13:45civil servant former railway man
  2262. 1:13:48area operations manager on the London
  2263. 1:13:50Northwestern when it was London Bridge
  2264. 1:13:52Railways worked for the Department for
  2265. 1:13:54Transport for many years and he was the
  2266. 1:13:56reason TIU is happening. And he got it
  2267. 1:13:59to the point
  2268. 1:14:00as he said he got it to the point where
  2269. 1:14:02the the government couldn't back out.
  2270. 1:14:05So it was it was Stuart that got us over
  2271. 1:14:07the line. Unfortunately Stuart had a
  2272. 1:14:09stroke about five years ago now in a TIU
  2273. 1:14:12meeting
  2274. 1:14:13never went back to work and died of a
  2275. 1:14:15heart attack about two years later. And
  2276. 1:14:17he he was the linchpin within the
  2277. 1:14:19Department for Transport he was the man
  2278. 1:14:20that really knew railways and knew what
  2279. 1:14:22was needed. So it was a big big loss but
  2280. 1:14:25due to his due to his
  2281. 1:14:28service over the years
  2282. 1:14:29in in memory of him we've actually
  2283. 1:14:31decided or the the the route director
  2284. 1:14:33Rob McIntosh
  2285. 1:14:34decided that we we would name the
  2286. 1:14:36junction after him. There's no better
  2287. 1:14:38accolade for a railway engineer to have
  2288. 1:14:39a bit of infrastructure named after them
  2289. 1:14:41I mean that's a pretty cool one I quite
  2290. 1:14:43like to have a Hog's junction somewhere
  2291. 1:14:45at some point I don't think that's going
  2292. 1:14:46to happen.
  2293. 1:14:49Ravensthorpe station so you can see the
  2294. 1:14:51flyover on the right hand side so the
  2295. 1:14:52fast lines on the right hand side slow
  2296. 1:14:54lines
  2297. 1:14:56the plat the station is actually
  2298. 1:14:57currently on the Leeds lines just at the
  2299. 1:14:59top top of the picture. We've made the
  2300. 1:15:00choice to move it to the other side of
  2301. 1:15:02the junction so you can actually pick up
  2302. 1:15:03the Wakefield route as well. So any
  2303. 1:15:05leads to Wakefield or more importantly
  2304. 1:15:07the Grand Central London trains can now
  2305. 1:15:09stop at Ravensthorpe as well as
  2306. 1:15:11just stopping at
  2307. 1:15:13Mirfield so it relieves some of the
  2308. 1:15:14pressure on Mirfield in the parking in
  2309. 1:15:16the Mirfield area. So we just create a
  2310. 1:15:17parking nightmare here instead probably
  2311. 1:15:19but that's uh
  2312. 1:15:20chance. And also there's a four and a
  2313. 1:15:23half thousand
  2314. 1:15:25house housing development just off to
  2315. 1:15:26the right hand side proposed area so
  2316. 1:15:29having a better connected station that
  2317. 1:15:31can covers more destinations was an
  2318. 1:15:33important part of that.
  2319. 1:15:37So another view of the grade separation
  2320. 1:15:38in the box. It's a picture of the box
  2321. 1:15:40itself so we've got the green lines of
  2322. 1:15:42the fast lines going over the top then
  2323. 1:15:44underneath you've got the two lines
  2324. 1:15:45going up to Wakefield and the um
  2325. 1:15:49Oakenshaw line coming from Leeds
  2326. 1:15:50underneath so the junction is actually
  2327. 1:15:52the diamond of the junction is actually
  2328. 1:15:53underneath underneath the the
  2329. 1:15:55intersection underneath the box.
  2330. 1:15:58Which
  2331. 1:15:59has its disadvantages but given that
  2332. 1:16:00it's a switch diamond the switch
  2333. 1:16:02diamonds don't like being in the sun
  2334. 1:16:03it's actually beneficial to actually
  2335. 1:16:04have it hidden underneath the box so
  2336. 1:16:07although it's not the best place to put
  2337. 1:16:08it it actually has
  2338. 1:16:09indirect benefits of locating there cuz
  2339. 1:16:11it keeps it out of direct sunlight.
  2340. 1:16:14So I mentioned missing Calder bridges
  2341. 1:16:16the two Calder bridges are actually um
  2342. 1:16:18grade two listed
  2343. 1:16:21they have
  2344. 1:16:22uh
  2345. 1:16:24structural issues think brittle brittle
  2346. 1:16:26failures that there's a lot a lot of
  2347. 1:16:28monitoring on those structures cuz
  2348. 1:16:30they're not in the best of state. The
  2349. 1:16:32ability to upgrade those it's very
  2350. 1:16:34difficult to keep them in their original
  2351. 1:16:35condition and upgrade them so the choice
  2352. 1:16:38was made to just make them redundant.
  2353. 1:16:40They'll probably get turned into a cycle
  2354. 1:16:41track or something similar
  2355. 1:16:43but we built our new newer geometry
  2356. 1:16:45entirely off-line which also aids
  2357. 1:16:47aids staging in that you build the new
  2358. 1:16:49infrastructure connect the ends in
  2359. 1:16:51commission it instead of having to close
  2360. 1:16:53the railway for a long time to rebuild
  2361. 1:16:54those bridges. So we're off-line we need
  2362. 1:16:57to
  2363. 1:16:58miss the council's waste disposal site
  2364. 1:17:00so we we we skirt parallel with that and
  2365. 1:17:02then the reverse curve I mentioned
  2366. 1:17:04earlier at Thornhill Road bridge top end
  2367. 1:17:06there
  2368. 1:17:07we we straighten that out. We we
  2369. 1:17:09deliberately went off-line sufficiently
  2370. 1:17:12find the photo off-line sufficiently
  2371. 1:17:14that we can build the new bridge connect
  2372. 1:17:16the railway in either side and then the
  2373. 1:17:18old the old bridge becomes redundant.
  2374. 1:17:20So those are the two listed um
  2375. 1:17:24bridges on the existing route.
  2376. 1:17:26That's the new viaduct so it's two
  2377. 1:17:29independent structures over the sorry
  2378. 1:17:30three independent structures over the
  2379. 1:17:32Calder navigation and it's down to a
  2380. 1:17:34single four track viaduct when you go
  2381. 1:17:36over the river Calder.
  2382. 1:17:40And a little route video.
  2383. 1:17:42This is 11 minutes so we nearly we're
  2384. 1:17:44nearly done.
  2385. 1:17:45So Huddersfield station it's a little
  2386. 1:17:47bit clunky but it's only to have a look
  2387. 1:17:49around and I'm going to have to talk
  2388. 1:17:50fairly quickly over the top of this cuz
  2389. 1:17:51it doesn't doesn't pause.
  2390. 1:17:53So we've got the new station the
  2391. 1:17:55existing train shed roof so the existing
  2392. 1:17:57roof of Huddersfield is the largest span
  2393. 1:18:00and only one of four examples of a
  2394. 1:18:02Euston roof so Euston station which its
  2395. 1:18:04roof went years ago there's only four
  2396. 1:18:06examples Huddersfield is the biggest
  2397. 1:18:07one. So the main train shed from listing
  2398. 1:18:09perspective and
  2399. 1:18:11heritage we had to keep. We demolished
  2400. 1:18:13the small train shed and we're adding a
  2401. 1:18:14very very we're adding a very
  2402. 1:18:16contemporary structure alongside. So
  2403. 1:18:17that's the main train shed which gets
  2404. 1:18:19renovated has its lantern put back on
  2405. 1:18:20the top with a new structure alongside.
  2406. 1:18:23We keep the underpass and we get a new
  2407. 1:18:25footbridge at the
  2408. 1:18:27east end as well to cover the fact that
  2409. 1:18:29the platforms move quite a long way
  2410. 1:18:30towards Leeds.
  2411. 1:18:32We head out onto onto the viaduct the
  2412. 1:18:35major structure in John William Street
  2413. 1:18:36immediately come out of the station
  2414. 1:18:39that was completely replaced about 18
  2415. 1:18:41months ago I think.
  2416. 1:18:42So we've already already done the works
  2417. 1:18:44there. The geometry over the bridge is
  2418. 1:18:47different due to how we come off the
  2419. 1:18:48platforms and we needed to extend the
  2420. 1:18:50platforms over the bridge as well so
  2421. 1:18:52that one has already been reconstructed.
  2422. 1:18:54We've got four tracks well five
  2423. 1:18:56initially but straight down to four
  2424. 1:18:57tracks on the original five track
  2425. 1:18:59formation over the viaduct.
  2426. 1:19:01We'll have to have another look at John
  2427. 1:19:02William Street from the other side.
  2428. 1:19:06That's Fitzwilliam Street which is the
  2429. 1:19:07next bridge.
  2430. 1:19:11So OLE master coincident with the
  2431. 1:19:14spandrel walls of the viaduct so the
  2432. 1:19:15line lined up with the abutments and
  2433. 1:19:17columns.
  2434. 1:19:19So we go over the bridge which also
  2435. 1:19:21dictated where the S&C went because
  2436. 1:19:23they're registering at the overhead
  2437. 1:19:24line.
  2438. 1:19:25Uh other end of the viaduct, span 29.
  2439. 1:19:28Uh so originally a masonry arch for two
  2440. 1:19:31tracks with metallic extensions, two
  2441. 1:19:33tracks on one side, one on the other
  2442. 1:19:34side. Um metallic elements that that
  2443. 1:19:37were redundant, so only the masonry arch
  2444. 1:19:40was the live live ball. So those have
  2445. 1:19:42been removed and replaced uh by
  2446. 1:19:45pre-stressed concrete beams, which you
  2447. 1:19:46can see there. Is I before that and
  2448. 1:19:48there'll be some pictures of it getting
  2449. 1:19:50installed in a moment.
  2450. 1:19:53Just lifting out the metallic elements.
  2451. 1:19:54You can see the the two two-track arch
  2452. 1:19:56in the middle, which is the middle two
  2453. 1:19:57tracks.
  2454. 1:19:59Which is retained.
  2455. 1:20:05So heading off from almost at the end of
  2456. 1:20:07uh Huddersfield viaduct. On the
  2457. 1:20:08left-hand side is Hillhouse sidings. So
  2458. 1:20:10150 m long signal reception line, so you
  2459. 1:20:13don't need a shunter to accept a train,
  2460. 1:20:15so it's fully signaled into reception
  2461. 1:20:17line and then it splits into four top
  2462. 1:20:19sidings and uh an engineer's siding on
  2463. 1:20:22the left-hand side there.
  2464. 1:20:24It's a view from the opposite end
  2465. 1:20:25looking back towards Huddersfield.
  2466. 1:20:30So four tracks
  2467. 1:20:31all the way through just past temporary
  2468. 1:20:34platform that we've built.
  2469. 1:20:36Approaching Deighton station.
  2470. 1:20:39So the slow lines move to the left to
  2471. 1:20:40make room for the island platform in the
  2472. 1:20:42in the island platform but the plat the
  2473. 1:20:44old platform in the middle.
  2474. 1:20:45Which meant the reconstruction of the
  2475. 1:20:47bridge and uh rather interesting uh I
  2476. 1:20:50think it's a uh reinforced earth
  2477. 1:20:51embankment cutting slope to the
  2478. 1:20:55uh east side of the bridge.
  2479. 1:21:03Wait for the video.
  2480. 1:21:07The next bridge is the A62 Leeds Road.
  2481. 1:21:10Uh very very tight abutments. You can
  2482. 1:21:11see the constraints. See how close the
  2483. 1:21:13middle two tracks are here together. Six
  2484. 1:21:14tracks are six full through this
  2485. 1:21:15structure because the existing abutments
  2486. 1:21:18uh need rebuilding because it's a very
  2487. 1:21:20low bridge. You can't get the wires
  2488. 1:21:21under there.
  2489. 1:21:22Um so we're actually building a very
  2490. 1:21:24large new bridge. We'll build a
  2491. 1:21:25temporary bridge alongside to divert the
  2492. 1:21:27road, remove the existing bridge, finish
  2493. 1:21:31widening the new bridge,
  2494. 1:21:33and then put the road back to a smoother
  2495. 1:21:36alignment it was before we started. But
  2496. 1:21:38you end up with a very wide bridge with
  2497. 1:21:39with a rather large pavement on the on
  2498. 1:21:41the west side, which looks a bit
  2499. 1:21:42Somebody will ask in the future, why is
  2500. 1:21:43it so ridiculous? But that's that's the
  2501. 1:21:46reason why.
  2502. 1:21:48Heading on Bradley Junction coming up.
  2503. 1:21:50So a crossover and league currently 15
  2504. 1:21:51mph. We up that to 45, get the uh
  2505. 1:21:54Bradford trains out of the way quicker.
  2506. 1:21:56Still fast lines on the right, slow
  2507. 1:21:58lines on the left.
  2508. 1:22:01Where the uh the existing underpass
  2509. 1:22:03diverts off to the left. The left-hand
  2510. 1:22:06two tracks are the existing two tracks.
  2511. 1:22:08But our new
  2512. 1:22:09chord line in fast lines 100 mph cutting
  2513. 1:22:12the corner off.
  2514. 1:22:14There's a lot of earthworks and some
  2515. 1:22:15reinforced earthworks in there as well
  2516. 1:22:17to steepen the slopes.
  2517. 1:22:19Uh aerial view. So the the topography to
  2518. 1:22:22the right-hand side or above as you can
  2519. 1:22:23see there is significantly higher, so
  2520. 1:22:25it's a it's a fairly substantial
  2521. 1:22:27cutting.
  2522. 1:22:35That's the existing underpass which
  2523. 1:22:37returns as the up slow.
  2524. 1:22:39Uh at the end of the chord line uh
  2525. 1:22:42connect back in with the existing
  2526. 1:22:43routes.
  2527. 1:22:44Again, slow lines on the left, fast
  2528. 1:22:46lines on the right. We've now picked up
  2529. 1:22:48the Calder Valley lines have come in. Uh
  2530. 1:22:50slow line coming in from Huddersfield
  2531. 1:22:51after the underpass.
  2532. 1:22:55Slowly work towards uh
  2533. 1:22:58Mirfield.
  2534. 1:23:05Got Mirfield viaduct.
  2535. 1:23:07Interesting, Mirfield viaduct was a was
  2536. 1:23:09two tracks until very late. It was only
  2537. 1:23:11four tracks in 19 30s. Uh and they they
  2538. 1:23:16uh metallic elements, so that's the view
  2539. 1:23:17from the from the north. So the view
  2540. 1:23:19from the south in a moment. Metallic
  2541. 1:23:21addition in the 1930s actually one of
  2542. 1:23:23the worst structures on the route. So
  2543. 1:23:24there's quite a lot of work needed to to
  2544. 1:23:26revamp and uh strengthen the the
  2545. 1:23:28existing structure for us to support new
  2546. 1:23:30110 mph railway over it.
  2547. 1:23:34Uh new Mirfield station. So the station
  2548. 1:23:37is actually on off the foreground to
  2549. 1:23:38left. It's entirely uh this side of the
  2550. 1:23:40road. Um
  2551. 1:23:42so it's part of the station access with
  2552. 1:23:43a new car park. Um so the main access is
  2553. 1:23:47from from the south side. We've retained
  2554. 1:23:48the access from the road underpass via a
  2555. 1:23:50vestibule and then up a staircase.
  2556. 1:23:52You've got a subterranean foyer in there
  2557. 1:23:54as well, but that's a a new 150 m long
  2558. 1:23:57station capable of being extended if
  2559. 1:23:59needed.
  2560. 1:24:01Uh
  2561. 1:24:02continuing on.
  2562. 1:24:05Only three tracks, so it's the second
  2563. 1:24:07track from the right is currently
  2564. 1:24:08missing, but the outside track is only
  2565. 1:24:1040 mph, so it's an S3 rebuild. Rebuild
  2566. 1:24:13the uh the up loop and add turning to
  2567. 1:24:17the up fast and then add the down fast.
  2568. 1:24:19So this is now approaching the grade
  2569. 1:24:21separation at Ravensthorpe. So we've got
  2570. 1:24:24yet another new station at Ravensthorpe.
  2571. 1:24:26There we go.
  2572. 1:24:27Hopefully we'll have some waiting
  2573. 1:24:29shelters on it. It's not there on the
  2574. 1:24:30model. It's not going to be quite as
  2575. 1:24:31bare as that. So a single access bridge
  2576. 1:24:33from from the far side.
  2577. 1:24:36Our flyover lines, fast lines are
  2578. 1:24:38climbing up. Uh and then as soon as you
  2579. 1:24:41go on past uh to the east of uh Calder
  2580. 1:24:43Road,
  2581. 1:24:44um you've got the intersection bridge
  2582. 1:24:46with the junction sat underneath it.
  2583. 1:25:01Some interesting gradients at 1 in 70 we
  2584. 1:25:03ended up using for the flyover. Is that
  2585. 1:25:05correct, James?
  2586. 1:25:06It's 1 in 80. 1 in 80. Uh so we did
  2587. 1:25:08quite a lot of modeling. So although
  2588. 1:25:09this is the fast lines are not a freight
  2589. 1:25:11route and via Leeds isn't a freight
  2590. 1:25:14route, it's only engineering trains.
  2591. 1:25:15Still need to be capable of getting a
  2592. 1:25:17freight train up there. So the generic
  2593. 1:25:19steep ignoring miles platting bank at
  2594. 1:25:21Manchester, the generic steepest
  2595. 1:25:22gradient on the route was 1 in 75, 1 in
  2596. 1:25:2578 in two different locations. So 1 in
  2597. 1:25:2880 was the was the chosen gradient for
  2598. 1:25:30for the for the new line even though in
  2599. 1:25:32theory it doesn't it doesn't get freight
  2600. 1:25:34traffic. So that's the new Baker
  2601. 1:25:35viaduct. So as the the the middle two
  2602. 1:25:38lines are higher, so it's an independent
  2603. 1:25:39structure until you get to the bridge
  2604. 1:25:42and that becomes the four-track viaduct
  2605. 1:25:43to that point.
  2606. 1:25:45Down to two tracks and you will just see
  2607. 1:25:47where we cross over the existing lines.
  2608. 1:25:50Shoots from the bottom left across the
  2609. 1:25:51right-hand side and then back across
  2610. 1:25:53again.
  2611. 1:25:54Approaching Thornhill Road.
  2612. 1:26:04And then it's Dewsbury station in in the
  2613. 1:26:06distance just there.
  2614. 1:26:16Yeah, one
  2615. 1:26:17uh and that's the final view of of Baker
  2616. 1:26:19viaduct.
  2617. 1:26:20So
  2618. 1:26:23that's it from the track perspective.
  2619. 1:26:24I've got about 10 more slides just
  2620. 1:26:26talking about the station and the
  2621. 1:26:27architecture. So it'd be worth just uh
  2622. 1:26:29flicking through those quickly. I'm just
  2623. 1:26:30looking at Louise as to whether or not
  2624. 1:26:31I'll
  2625. 1:26:32Cuz I'm at 7:00 already.
  2626. 1:26:35Uh feel feel So we finished talking
  2627. 1:26:37track, so if you do need to go, feel
  2628. 1:26:38free to go. So I won't be offended. Um
  2629. 1:26:41so Huddersfield station, uh Harold
  2630. 1:26:44Wilson statue outside the station. So
  2631. 1:26:45grade one listed structure. I talked I
  2632. 1:26:47talked about that earlier.
  2633. 1:26:49Um
  2634. 1:26:50So
  2635. 1:26:52the
  2636. 1:26:53existing train shed I mentioned the main
  2637. 1:26:55uh
  2638. 1:26:56roof phase, the main train shed roof B.
  2639. 1:26:58B is the small train shed and C is a
  2640. 1:27:00cantilever
  2641. 1:27:01uh later addition cantilever on on the
  2642. 1:27:03side. Uh so we're keeping A, we're
  2643. 1:27:05removing B and C, and putting a new
  2644. 1:27:08canopy alongside. So the yellow is the
  2645. 1:27:09proposed platform with the orange is the
  2646. 1:27:12um second platform access. We've got the
  2647. 1:27:14existing subway which is lengthened,
  2648. 1:27:16extended. Um we've got a secondary route
  2649. 1:27:19via via a footbridge at the eastern end
  2650. 1:27:21at the Leeds end.
  2651. 1:27:23Um so we the pink there is our new uh
  2652. 1:27:27contemporary um
  2653. 1:27:28gullwing roof and we extend the existing
  2654. 1:27:33canopy. So we've actually shortened the
  2655. 1:27:34canopy at the Manchester end.
  2656. 1:27:37Uh we've taken
  2657. 1:27:39roughly four of the
  2658. 1:27:41trusses out um
  2659. 1:27:43and move them to move We move them to
  2660. 1:27:45the other end. The reason we move them
  2661. 1:27:46to the other end is the fact that the
  2662. 1:27:48because of the way the pedestrian
  2663. 1:27:49platform and all the track layout
  2664. 1:27:50between the tunnel and the station, the
  2665. 1:27:52entire station moves towards Leeds. So
  2666. 1:27:54it it enables us to to line everything
  2667. 1:27:56up. So the the struc the trusses that
  2668. 1:27:58have come out are actually getting
  2669. 1:28:00reused and reinstated to to put the
  2670. 1:28:03uh Leeds end of the canopy back to where
  2671. 1:28:05it was originally. So it was actually
  2672. 1:28:06curtailed in the late 1970s, I think. Um
  2673. 1:28:10which is when it lost its lantern.
  2674. 1:28:13So that's a cross-section. So the
  2675. 1:28:15right-hand uh structure is retained. The
  2676. 1:28:17the left-hand uh truss is removed and
  2677. 1:28:20then we get this uh contemporary
  2678. 1:28:22gullwing arrangement. Which was
  2679. 1:28:24originally open to the elements. Uh so
  2680. 1:28:26the vertical element in the middle would
  2681. 1:28:27would would didn't exist until somebody
  2682. 1:28:29pointed out that that that point that's
  2683. 1:28:31in the direction of the prevailing
  2684. 1:28:33winds, which is so in the middle of
  2685. 1:28:34winter you'll have a absolute howling
  2686. 1:28:36gale running through the station at
  2687. 1:28:37Huddersfield. Uh so that's that's now
  2688. 1:28:39closed off and can be closed or clad,
  2689. 1:28:42but uh the structure now is um
  2690. 1:28:45is at least closed off.
  2691. 1:28:48Uh and that's a
  2692. 1:28:49complete visualization of what they
  2693. 1:28:52canopy looks like. Some more views.
  2694. 1:28:55Uh bridge at the other end, so we've got
  2695. 1:28:56another contemporary footbridge. Uh not
  2696. 1:28:58quite sure how they're going to clean
  2697. 1:28:59the glass on that, but uh
  2698. 1:29:01my problem.
  2699. 1:29:04So um obviously the top right is the um
  2700. 1:29:08the solar modeling of uh the all the
  2701. 1:29:10glass that's that's going in.
  2702. 1:29:12Uh and part of the reason for for
  2703. 1:29:14angling the glass is to avoid having um
  2704. 1:29:16sunlight glare back to the driver as
  2705. 1:29:18well to make sure that the angles the
  2706. 1:29:20angles work so you don't obscure
  2707. 1:29:23signal sighting and then just a few
  2708. 1:29:25quick slides on current progress. So
  2709. 1:29:28transport works out already came through
  2710. 1:29:31end of last year I think so work started
  2711. 1:29:33on site. So this is the new Baker
  2712. 1:29:35Viaduct so these are all the piles going
  2713. 1:29:37in for uh
  2714. 1:29:39for the raft for the foundations. You'll
  2715. 1:29:40see the existing Calder Bridge in the
  2716. 1:29:42background so
  2717. 1:29:43this is where the viaducts goes over the
  2718. 1:29:45Calder navigation it climbs up uh
  2719. 1:29:47towards in fact I've actually put it on
  2720. 1:29:49that's roughly the geometry of the the
  2721. 1:29:51proposed line with the photograph.
  2722. 1:29:54As we move up to the junction
  2723. 1:29:56this is geometry goes roughly through
  2724. 1:29:58there so there's a
  2725. 1:29:59significant amount of earthworks we need
  2726. 1:30:01to cut back cut back the the cutting
  2727. 1:30:03slope and put a step slope so we've got
  2728. 1:30:05a railway halfway up that slope so
  2729. 1:30:06there's few few hundred million tons of
  2730. 1:30:09uh
  2731. 1:30:09muck to shift probably in there.
  2732. 1:30:12And a couple of views looking the other
  2733. 1:30:13way so some major civil engineering
  2734. 1:30:15works
  2735. 1:30:16in play now.
  2736. 1:30:18So the plan is that box is designed to
  2737. 1:30:21be entirely off the existing geometry so
  2738. 1:30:23the full intersection bridge Baker
  2739. 1:30:24Viaduct all the earthworks around it are
  2740. 1:30:27constructed in advance
  2741. 1:30:29the Wakefield lines are getting diverted
  2742. 1:30:31through the box and then they finish off
  2743. 1:30:33the earthworks at the the Huddersfield
  2744. 1:30:34end
  2745. 1:30:35of
  2746. 1:30:36the scheme so this minimize minimize
  2747. 1:30:39disruption
  2748. 1:30:40on the route and that is it finally.
  2749. 1:30:44146 slides later.
  2750. 1:30:48So any any questions? Do you want to
  2751. 1:30:50come and work with the computer there?
  2752. 1:30:59So anyone in the room got any questions?
  2753. 1:31:02Yeah.
  2754. 1:31:03Is that Malcolm?
  2755. 1:31:05Um
  2756. 1:31:06you've still got some significant double
  2757. 1:31:07track sections left really just Dewsbury
  2758. 1:31:09but probably Huddersfield and
  2759. 1:31:11Stalybridge.
  2760. 1:31:12With a mixture of all them fast trains
  2761. 1:31:14are still stopping service.
  2762. 1:31:16How do you manage to
  2763. 1:31:18accommodate that with that
  2764. 1:31:21With difficulty. Yeah we thought so. Uh
  2765. 1:31:24so
  2766. 1:31:25um
  2767. 1:31:27a stopping service leaves so the plan is
  2768. 1:31:30for the fast trains to be at quarter
  2769. 1:31:32hourly intervals. The answer is we will
  2770. 1:31:34have to flex the exact quarter hour that
  2771. 1:31:35was originally agreed is that your four
  2772. 1:31:38fast trains are on the clock face and we
  2773. 1:31:40fit everything else in between. We are
  2774. 1:31:41actually going to have to flex that now
  2775. 1:31:43so DfT are happy with a couple of
  2776. 1:31:44minutes flex to make that work. But
  2777. 1:31:46generically the stopping service the
  2778. 1:31:49Huddersfield stopping service leaves
  2779. 1:31:50Leeds two minutes behind the fast
  2780. 1:31:51service.
  2781. 1:31:53By the time it gets to Baker Junction
  2782. 1:31:54Baker Junction the next fast service has
  2783. 1:31:56caught it up.
  2784. 1:31:57Extending the four tracking to include
  2785. 1:31:59Dewsbury station wouldn't made a huge
  2786. 1:32:00difference but there are 11 structures
  2787. 1:32:02in that three quarter of a mile length
  2788. 1:32:04between Baker Junction and Dewsbury
  2789. 1:32:06station. It was going to be a really
  2790. 1:32:07really expensive intervention. That's
  2791. 1:32:09actually something that Northern
  2792. 1:32:10Powerhouse Rail uh HS2 are looking at
  2793. 1:32:13further extending the four tracking but
  2794. 1:32:15for the volume of trains that we've got
  2795. 1:32:17it does just work. Um
  2796. 1:32:19it does work from a timetable
  2797. 1:32:21perspective there's just potential
  2798. 1:32:22performance hit which is why it was
  2799. 1:32:23really important to be able to get those
  2800. 1:32:24stopping trains off quickly.
  2801. 1:32:26Yeah. Um It must be susceptible though
  2802. 1:32:28with a few minutes delay. It did I
  2803. 1:32:30absolutely yes yes. And especially on
  2804. 1:32:32the very long section across the top and
  2805. 1:32:34filling down the other side. So the
  2806. 1:32:37there is a significant so we it was
  2807. 1:32:40it worked relatively well
  2808. 1:32:43until we added freight. At the top there
  2809. 1:32:45so um so your four fast your two
  2810. 1:32:48semi-fast and your two stoppers between
  2811. 1:32:49Huddersfield and Manchester worked. As
  2812. 1:32:51soon as you try and squeeze freight in
  2813. 1:32:53as well
  2814. 1:32:54one path and now you you almost
  2815. 1:32:56certainly lose that second stopping
  2816. 1:32:58service so you'll have your two the
  2817. 1:33:01likely output is not determined yet
  2818. 1:33:03because we're still working on concept
  2819. 1:33:04timetable three. Um but the likely
  2820. 1:33:06scenario is that you'll have your two
  2821. 1:33:07stoppers during morning and evening peak
  2822. 1:33:09and in the middle of the day you'll lose
  2823. 1:33:10one of those for to be able to get
  2824. 1:33:12freight services through there. Freight
  2825. 1:33:14is a significant challenge because as I
  2826. 1:33:15mentioned earlier whatever speed they're
  2827. 1:33:16doing at the bottom they'll do all the
  2828. 1:33:18way up the hill. Um so W2C is still in
  2829. 1:33:22development because it is proposed that
  2830. 1:33:24we three track we put a long up loop all
  2831. 1:33:27the way from Gledhow all the way up to
  2832. 1:33:28up to including Marsden and it includes
  2833. 1:33:30Slaithwaite and Marsden stations.
  2834. 1:33:32So that is primarily an up loop but
  2835. 1:33:34we're putting in the middle and
  2836. 1:33:36connecting it to down lines as well so
  2837. 1:33:37you've actually got a dynamic loop that
  2838. 1:33:38can be used both ways but it's
  2839. 1:33:40predominantly an up loop capable of
  2840. 1:33:41being used in the down direction. Um on
  2841. 1:33:44the timetable we'll probably end up
  2842. 1:33:45using it both ways. So you put it in the
  2843. 1:33:47middle? Put it in the middle yeah. Yeah
  2844. 1:33:48that makes sense to me yeah.
  2845. 1:33:50And we platforms on all three lines at
  2846. 1:33:51Slaithwaite and Marsden so you can run
  2847. 1:33:53your trains on whichever line. That's a
  2848. 1:33:54whole another presentation also we'll
  2849. 1:33:56leave that one later. But getting over
  2850. 1:33:57the hill is a challenge and even with
  2851. 1:33:59that three tracking you've still got a
  2852. 1:34:00challenge coming in the opposite
  2853. 1:34:01direction
  2854. 1:34:03so we're looking at options for loops
  2855. 1:34:04around Manchester so Baguley Fold area
  2856. 1:34:06we're potentially going to have to put
  2857. 1:34:07freight regulating loops in there
  2858. 1:34:10because you literally can't get all the
  2859. 1:34:12way from Manchester Victoria through to
  2860. 1:34:14Huddersfield before then fast train has
  2861. 1:34:16caught freight train. So there's some
  2862. 1:34:18significant challenges you quite correct
  2863. 1:34:20the two track sections are significant
  2864. 1:34:21challenges and east of Leeds similar
  2865. 1:34:24so Leeds through to Leeds through to
  2866. 1:34:26Micklefield is is an absolute nightmare
  2867. 1:34:27that's actually the worst portion of
  2868. 1:34:29TIU.
  2869. 1:34:30Um as it stands at the moment. Again NPR
  2870. 1:34:32are looking at partially four tracking
  2871. 1:34:34and then potentially grade separating
  2872. 1:34:36Micklefield Junction there's lots of
  2873. 1:34:37things that that that could be done to
  2874. 1:34:39improve that portion of route. The only
  2875. 1:34:41thing that's semi-definite is
  2876. 1:34:43um the new Thorpe Park station where the
  2877. 1:34:45M62 crosses us
  2878. 1:34:47from M62 the M1 crosses the railway
  2879. 1:34:49Garforth immediately to the west of that
  2880. 1:34:51there's a proposal by the council to
  2881. 1:34:52build a park and ride station so that's
  2882. 1:34:55Thorpe Park station. So four track have
  2883. 1:34:57a short four track station that picks up
  2884. 1:34:59the new Thorpe Park station and
  2885. 1:35:00Crossgates station. So you've got a
  2886. 1:35:02dynamic loop with two stops so then that
  2887. 1:35:04allows the fast train to pass and pass a
  2888. 1:35:05stopper so that is likely but it's not
  2889. 1:35:10currently currently in scope. But
  2890. 1:35:12there's a lot more to come. There's a
  2891. 1:35:13lot to Yes. So the reason
  2892. 1:35:15I'm still
  2893. 1:35:16uh working the development team in TIU
  2894. 1:35:18is because we still don't know what
  2895. 1:35:20we're building after working on it for
  2896. 1:35:21eight years and we're building half of
  2897. 1:35:22it but we're still the client is
  2898. 1:35:23constantly changing their mind i.e. the
  2899. 1:35:25government and the DfT as to what they
  2900. 1:35:27want which keeps me in a job
  2901. 1:35:30and has done for for for a number of
  2902. 1:35:31years and will continue to do so for at
  2903. 1:35:33least the next five I'm guessing so
  2904. 1:35:35uh
  2905. 1:35:37Thank you James. Um any more questions
  2906. 1:35:39Alaric?
  2907. 1:35:41Yeah um great presentation James thanks.
  2908. 1:35:43Um I'm intrigued by the big bang option
  2909. 1:35:45um
  2910. 1:35:46talked about beginning couple slides. Um
  2911. 1:35:49I think you mentioned I think when you
  2912. 1:35:51started said the whole um
  2913. 1:35:53budget project about 11 and a half
  2914. 1:35:54billion it stands at? Yes. Something
  2915. 1:35:56like that and you meant and then you
  2916. 1:35:57said that the big bang was more.
  2917. 1:36:00How much more was it? Uh
  2918. 1:36:02the answer is I can't remember because
  2919. 1:36:03that was about seven years ago. Um at
  2920. 1:36:06the time that we looked at it the budget
  2921. 1:36:07was three billion pounds 3.1 billion not
  2922. 1:36:0911 um so it didn't fall within the
  2923. 1:36:12budget at the time. Uh when there's
  2924. 1:36:14there's lots of there's lots of
  2925. 1:36:15challenges on TIU. Uh would you have
  2926. 1:36:17actually been better not doing TIU at
  2927. 1:36:19all and spending two billion pounds on
  2928. 1:36:21doing a better job at Leeds station
  2929. 1:36:22because that's the linchpin for the
  2930. 1:36:23whole of Yorkshire. Although it was only
  2931. 1:36:25rebuilt 20 years ago and it made a big
  2932. 1:36:27difference because it was a 50% extra
  2933. 1:36:29capacity going from four to six tracks
  2934. 1:36:31at the west end it's still a significant
  2935. 1:36:33constraint in the area so
  2936. 1:36:34there are lots of
  2937. 1:36:36left field challenges as to well do you
  2938. 1:36:38really want to do that you should be
  2939. 1:36:39doing this which is another interesting
  2940. 1:36:42point when it comes to consents because
  2941. 1:36:43it's a single scheme over a very very
  2942. 1:36:47over 70 miles of route. Whenever you go
  2943. 1:36:49for a transport works act order the
  2944. 1:36:51challenge is always why are you doing it
  2945. 1:36:52here why can't you do it somewhere else?
  2946. 1:36:55So we need to be very very consistent
  2947. 1:36:56with our approach for feasibility over
  2948. 1:36:58the whole route and deal with everything
  2949. 1:36:59in a consistent way so we can answer
  2950. 1:37:01those questions why do we actually have
  2951. 1:37:03to do a big four tracking scheme between
  2952. 1:37:05Huddersfield and Dewsbury? So a lot of
  2953. 1:37:08the slides that I had today are actually
  2954. 1:37:10pulled from the transport works act
  2955. 1:37:11order order slides so a lot of the
  2956. 1:37:12images
  2957. 1:37:14and diagrams come come from there.
  2958. 1:37:16Thanks I want to ask a question. Um I've
  2959. 1:37:19never seen so many schemes in my life
  2960. 1:37:21but
  2961. 1:37:22don't quite understand um
  2962. 1:37:25how the system works. Do you know
  2963. 1:37:28Network Rail come up with the options
  2964. 1:37:30and you work them up or are you a
  2965. 1:37:32totally separate organization? So I
  2966. 1:37:36I work for myself but I am actually
  2967. 1:37:38contracted directly within Network
  2968. 1:37:40Rail
  2969. 1:37:41but we've we've actually we've got an
  2970. 1:37:43alliance of uh
  2971. 1:37:45Arabs AM E Network Rail
  2972. 1:37:48uh and Bam as before the main main um
  2973. 1:37:52participants. We've got Siemens as well
  2974. 1:37:53now for signaling and digital signaling
  2975. 1:37:55with ETCS. Um so
  2976. 1:37:58it's it's
  2977. 1:38:00uh
  2978. 1:38:01an alliance based commutative approach
  2979. 1:38:03so we have outputs so Network Rail have
  2980. 1:38:06not stipulated the interventions they've
  2981. 1:38:08stipulated what we need to achieve and
  2982. 1:38:10then we develop schemes to achieve those
  2983. 1:38:12outputs.
  2984. 1:38:13Um
  2985. 1:38:14there is an element of
  2986. 1:38:16you need to be doing this as part of it
  2987. 1:38:17but it's what that doing this looks like
  2988. 1:38:20is still being part of the development
  2989. 1:38:21which with that multi-disciplinary
  2990. 1:38:23approach.
  2991. 1:38:24So you've got a
  2992. 1:38:25a lovely layout at the east end of
  2993. 1:38:28Huddersfield but the west end
  2994. 1:38:30what about a 2000 ton freight train
  2995. 1:38:33heading west?
  2996. 1:38:36You know it's got to
  2997. 1:38:38So
  2998. 1:38:40So luckily we haven't got it's it's 1800
  2999. 1:38:43tons is our remit which is freight into
  3000. 1:38:45Mogul. You do actually have 2500 ton
  3001. 1:38:47biomass trains that get diverted that
  3002. 1:38:49way but they predominantly go via Calder
  3003. 1:38:51Valley.
  3004. 1:38:52Um so it's predominantly 1800 ton train
  3005. 1:38:54that we're worrying about. Um
  3006. 1:38:56so I mentioned about trying to get it
  3007. 1:38:58into the station as quickly as possible.
  3008. 1:38:59When we developed that high speed ladder
  3009. 1:39:01to try and manage the freight trains
  3010. 1:39:02that did were were envisaged at the time
  3011. 1:39:04we've got more now.
  3012. 1:39:06Um
  3013. 1:39:06that was assuming that we were then
  3014. 1:39:07going to have to run with all the fast
  3015. 1:39:09trains all the way to to Stalybridge or
  3016. 1:39:12or further.
  3017. 1:39:13Now we've got three tracking as soon as
  3018. 1:39:15you get beyond Huddersfield and Gledholt
  3019. 1:39:17Tunnel, you only need to manage that
  3020. 1:39:19really short one 1.5 mile long two track
  3021. 1:39:21section and then you're back onto a
  3022. 1:39:22dedicated line for the freight train. So
  3023. 1:39:24it's significantly less impactful is
  3024. 1:39:26that slow train now. The fact that you
  3025. 1:39:28can squeeze it through the station,
  3026. 1:39:30through the tunnel and then you get it
  3027. 1:39:31out of the way again to go up the hill.
  3028. 1:39:33Will those tracks will be bi-directional
  3029. 1:39:35all the way through to Um
  3030. 1:39:41Not initially with conventional
  3031. 1:39:42signaling. There will be with ETCS
  3032. 1:39:44because we're going to get
  3033. 1:39:44bi-directional signaling everywhere with
  3034. 1:39:46ETCS. Um so but under normal working it
  3035. 1:39:49will be be an up the Southbound will be
  3036. 1:39:51an up line and the Northbound will be a
  3037. 1:39:52down line. So that freight train needs
  3038. 1:39:55to come across the layout, get onto the
  3039. 1:39:56up line and then and then go onto the up
  3040. 1:39:59loop or the the in on the center loop in
  3041. 1:40:01the up direction.
  3042. 1:40:05It is another whole presentation cuz the
  3043. 1:40:07the connections on the down direction
  3044. 1:40:08are not actually at the end of the loop,
  3045. 1:40:10they're halfway along which allows the
  3046. 1:40:11tender loop to be used by two trains at
  3047. 1:40:13the same time because one can still get
  3048. 1:40:14out the the way of the other one. Um so
  3049. 1:40:17even that's quite complicated as to to
  3050. 1:40:19how we're proposing that so there's been
  3051. 1:40:20a reasonable amount of
  3052. 1:40:22development. But because that's still in
  3053. 1:40:24development and not
  3054. 1:40:26committed and in delivery so I'm trying
  3055. 1:40:28to just concentrate on what we what
  3056. 1:40:29we've already done and what we're
  3057. 1:40:30currently committed to deliver so.
  3058. 1:40:33Any more questions online?
  3059. 1:40:36No? Okay, we can thank James and you can
  3060. 1:40:38use your way.
  3061. 1:40:44Okay, presentation. Very good. I broke
  3062. 1:40:45my record with 46 slides. Well done.
  3063. 1:40:50Look forward to another presentation on
  3064. 1:40:51this when you got some of the other
  3065. 1:40:53proposals worked out.
  3066. 1:40:55Cuz
  3067. 1:40:56that was really good.
  3068. 1:40:59You know what I think you got last
  3069. 1:41:00question actually online. Say any
  3070. 1:41:02concern with historic mining works,
  3071. 1:41:04particularly Colne Bridge corner or
  3072. 1:41:06Ravensknowle area? Um so we've got
  3073. 1:41:09concerns with mine workings pretty much
  3074. 1:41:11everywhere on transfer line whether it's
  3075. 1:41:12east or west but mostly in west of
  3076. 1:41:14Leeds. Um
  3077. 1:41:17I am I am not well enough informed to
  3078. 1:41:19say what we're doing but it is a
  3079. 1:41:21significant concern even all the way
  3080. 1:41:23over to Manchester so the Manchester
  3081. 1:41:24through to Stalybridge element there
  3082. 1:41:27were issues there with mine workings and
  3083. 1:41:28the overhead line
  3084. 1:41:30foundations that we're putting in.
  3085. 1:41:32Um so yeah, significant risk. Also
  3086. 1:41:34unexploded ordnance of Second World War
  3087. 1:41:36ordnance so Huddersfield was quite
  3088. 1:41:37heavily bombed in the war.
  3089. 1:41:39Um I don't think we've had any incidents
  3090. 1:41:41yet but that's another
  3091. 1:41:43concern.
  3092. 1:41:45Makes sense.
  3093. 1:41:47Good. Thank you very much. Okay.
  3094. 1:41:49I'm going to bring you a black sack and
  3095. 1:41:50you I'll sit down there.
  3096. 1:41:52Don't let it collapse.

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