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0:01Bethany Hamilton is more than just an
0:03amazing pro-surfer with an incredible
0:06testimony she is also a mom a wife a
0:10Christian and an advocate for women and
0:13girls competing fairly in sports she is
0:17also a pro-life Advocate and so today
0:19she joins us to talk about her story
0:22what the Lord has taught her throughout
0:24her life and how he continues to use her
0:28testimony for the good of others and we
0:30will also of course talk about the
0:32changes to Title 9 why she decided last
0:34year to speak up for the rights and for
0:37fairness for women and girls in surane
0:40and we'll talk about so much more too
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0:49[Music]
0:58Aly Bethany Hamilton thanks so much for
1:01taking the time to join us it's my
1:03pleasure glad to be here Ally yeah it's
1:05so nice to meet you okay so many people
1:07out there have been following you have
1:09been asking me for so long can you
1:11please get Bethany on which I am so
1:14excited because I have been wanting to
1:16and hoping to and planning to have you
1:18on for a while so praise God that it
1:20worked out but for everyone who may not
1:23know your story take us back to the
1:26beginning when did you start surfing and
1:28what cultivated your love for that so I
1:31was born and raised in Kawai Hawaii and
1:34both my parents served and they're both
1:36God-fearing people and they just had my
1:40brothers and I and threw us in the water
1:42at a young age um you know probably on a
1:44surfboard before it could walk yeah and
1:48I
1:48just I think in my like young childhood
1:52I grew a passion for the ocean and
1:55riding waves and I had a knack for it
1:57and also just a strong Drive
2:00and yeah as I was getting older I
2:03started competing and very competitive
2:05and it was just um a really cool
2:08childhood like just amazing parents um
2:11you know we my dad worked really hard we
2:15had like two to three jobs at a time so
2:17we had a very simple childhood but they
2:20gave me so much they gave me so much
2:22time and they gave me my faith in God
2:25they encouraged me so much in that area
2:29and then they gave me surfing which was
2:31just the dream playground and so when I
2:35lost my
2:36arm it was almost like I was ready
2:39because my mom had raised me in my faith
2:42she would pray with me she read the
2:44Bible to me at bedtime we went to church
2:46and they were just very active I would
2:49say and so when chaos hit I was ready
2:54yeah and while it wasn't the plan that I
2:56had in mind for my life um God allowed
3:00me to survive that day for a reason and
3:03I very much so could have died but um I
3:06made it and then from there things just
3:10continued to get really interesting like
3:12I didn't wake up in the hospital
3:14thinking like wow I'm going to surf um
3:17with one arm you know I was more of like
3:19oh my gosh I lost my passion like the
3:21thing that was more than just a
3:23childhood sport it's just a how old you
3:26were I was 13 when I lost my arm gosh so
3:29young yeah so super young and and to
3:34give you a little context I had finished
3:36second in the national titles um that
3:40summer before also with my competitive
3:43Drive um but I was only 13 and that was
3:4618 and under so very promising yeah kind
3:51of like I don't know compared to other
3:52sports I feel like surfing you can kind
3:54of pinpoint if someone's going to really
3:56succeed whereas like soccer baseball
4:00like there can be a lot of like really
4:02talented children I would say but you're
4:04not going to be like oh yeah my child's
4:06going to be the best the next best I
4:08mean maybe the odd parent might think
4:10that but with surfing I feel like it's
4:12just a little different cuz now being a
4:14parent myself I'm like uh my parents
4:16really were all in like almost too much
4:20but I love that they were super
4:21supportive um would you say that surfing
4:24I've never surfed before so I don't know
4:27that much about it would you say based
4:29on what you just said that you can kind
4:31of tell like who is going to be really
4:33good from an early age would you say
4:34it's more intuitive like a more innate
4:38skill than maybe some other sports I
4:41would say it's a mix there is innate
4:43ability like my 8-year-old son he
4:46innately reads the ocean so well like he
4:51can kind of like see a wave coming from
4:53forever away and he's just in the spot
4:56it's
4:57supernal um but it's also something you
5:00can work at and get better at and
5:02nowadays too there's like wave pools so
5:05there's some super talented Surfers that
5:07have basically like gotten themselves to
5:11a professional level by spending a lot
5:13of time in the wave pools and so yeah
5:17it's a mix of both I would say at the
5:19end of the day hard work perseverance
5:21pushing yourself and like having the
5:24natural Talent as well mhm so 13 you
5:29survive the attack you wake up in the
5:31hospital and you think as you said wow
5:33my dream is over you had had this super
5:35promising career already by the time you
5:38were 13 and you're thinking it's all
5:40done yeah so I wake up and I'm thinking
5:44yeah I don't know what my life is going
5:46to look like and I think like when chaos
5:49like that hits our life you just like
5:51everything feels upside down like the
5:53future feels unknown and so that aspect
5:56was really hard but then I had a friend
6:00come in and visit me his name was Mike
6:02Cs and I had a lot of family support and
6:05friends coming and encouraging me in so
6:06many amazing ways um but Mike CS in
6:09particular he had lost his leg to a
6:12shark and he had learned how to surf
6:14with one leg and so he came in he's like
6:16hey I think you can surf with one arm I
6:18was practicing paddling out there this
6:20morning and so he was my first like
6:24light bulb of like okay maybe I can surf
6:27and then from there I was just on a
6:29mission to get back in the water and I
6:30think most people can't get past the
6:33whole shark
6:34thing like they don't want to go back in
6:36the ocean after something like that
6:38happens
6:40but I don't know you want to compare it
6:44to say driving in a car like you're
6:47going to get back in your car and like
6:49still go to the grocery store for the
6:51most part maybe the odd one out of a
6:53million might really struggle and never
6:55want to get back in a car but for me
6:59like I said surfing was more than just
7:01my childhood hobby like I feel like it
7:04it's a way of life and culture and art
7:08and Sport you've lived and breathed day
7:11yes exactly
7:13so yeah 21 days later as soon as the
7:17doctor said I could get in the water I
7:19was out there trying and going for it
7:22yeah and your parents were totally on
7:24board no pun intended my mom was like a
7:28little apprehensive my dad was like yes
7:32let's go um and then I think once my mom
7:36saw me surfing though and she had that
7:38same love and passion for the ocean so
7:41she came on board after a bit yeah and
7:44they just knew that it was part of who
7:47you were and that it would have been
7:48impossible for you probably to stay out
7:50of the water or it felt like it would
7:52have been I think two I was exploring
7:55the unknown I didn't know anyone with
7:58one arm let alone a surfer with one arm
8:01and same for my parents and so we were
8:05you know just exploring what was
8:07possible and I think it was hard to wrap
8:10your head around surfing with one arm
8:12for most people like just popping up and
8:15catching waves and just the whole every
8:17it's one of the hardest sports in the
8:19world
8:20so um yeah it was just really cool
8:23though that moment I popped up on my
8:25board and rode a wave all the way to the
8:27beach it was just like a tiny little
8:28wave like nothing like very special as
8:32far as the wave goes but it still feels
8:35like one of the most beautiful waves in
8:38my life I can just remember that emotion
8:40and tears of joy
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9:34was it a pretty straight line from A to
9:36B as far as recovery and getting better
9:38surfing with one arm or were there ever
9:41moments after that where you just felt
9:44yourself getting frustrated or
9:46discouraged or even fearful of an attack
9:49like that happening
9:51again yeah so I would say it was it was
9:56a journey of course like any recovery
10:00the physical Journey was actually pretty
10:02straightforward and easy um but there
10:05were definitely days where I'd come in
10:07crying or I couldn't even make it out to
10:09the lineup because the waves were so
10:12intense and I just didn't have the speed
10:15or the power and like the duck diving
10:18abilities so it took a while to regain
10:21my
10:22confidence um in the ocean and adapt and
10:26figure out creative ways to do things
10:28differently and so so as time went on it
10:31started to feel more natural and I just
10:33got used to it and I became better
10:36adopting and figuring out Bethany's
10:38version of Surfing and creativity out
10:41there and how I can do it
10:43differently
10:45and I think outside of the water too was
10:48the same thing like just trying to
10:50figure out how to do life and there was
10:52a lot of frustrating moments though lot
10:55of tears and frustrations and some down
10:58days for sure mhm but I would say that's
11:01where like my faith in God
11:03really propelled me forward through like
11:06the hardship and just trusting that God
11:09had a plan for my life and knowing that
11:13even at 13 I was like well maybe the
11:15Lord will use my story and so I always
11:18had a heart for other people like ever
11:21since I was little I just could not wait
11:23to go on a mission trip I wanted to go
11:25and serve people and so
11:29yeah I think I started getting letters
11:32to once I started surfing again from
11:35people like if you can surf with one arm
11:37like I can overcome my hardship and that
11:40as a 13-year-old was kind of weird but
11:42also really cool and beautiful yeah and
11:45so is that how you kind of dealt with
11:48those moments that I'm sure that you had
11:51of why me why why did this happen to me
11:56of all people is that how you kind of
11:59EMB added those Temptations to have
12:01thoughts like
12:02that yeah it's interesting I
12:06think my mindset as a 13-year-old
12:10inspires me to this day like I don't
12:12feel like I'm like the same person today
12:15like I mean yes I am and like I carry a
12:18lot of that but I remember just waking
12:21up in the hospital and thinking I'm so
12:23grateful to be alive like I could have
12:25died I knew very clearly that I could
12:28have died
12:29and I just think having that gratitude
12:33propelled me forward and focusing on
12:36what I could do propelled me forward
12:39instead of getting stuck in a rut of
12:41like woe is me I have felt that wo is me
12:44and that's really hard to overcome and
12:49um face in life and all I can say is
12:54just trying to figure out what what can
12:56you do how can you move forward what are
12:59you what do you have to be grateful for
13:02instead of like thinking what if and
13:06whato is me um because life's going to
13:09knock you down and as my favorite Bible
13:12verse says like in this world you will
13:13have trouble John
13:151633 um I have said these things to you
13:18that in me you will have peace in the
13:20world you will have trouble but take
13:21heart I have overcome the world and I
13:24love that verse because it reminds us
13:26that we're going to have trouble like
13:29God didn't say it's going to be all
13:31perfect and easy like sin is a part of
13:33the world and we're going to have to
13:34face that and it's going to jack things
13:36up along the way but to have our hope in
13:39God and to know that he will be there
13:42for us through it all and I think that
13:46throughout my life like no doubt that's
13:48been my sure and steady Foundation to
13:51carry me carry me on yeah it is a shift
13:54in thinking from I'm entitled to to
13:59everything going well I'm entitled to my
14:01dreams coming true exactly how I
14:03Envision them I'm entitled to reap the
14:06rewards of everything that I have worked
14:08for exactly like I want to read them
14:11going back to the promise that you just
14:14repeated that actually what we can
14:16expect is trouble what we can expect is
14:19Trials what we can expect is for things
14:21not to go our way for things not to
14:24always just be a smooth Road and I love
14:27that you brought up that verse because
14:29the comfort is not that but it'll all
14:32work out in the end how you want it to
14:34the Comfort is but take heart Christ is
14:36already overcome the world so it's in
14:39him and it's not about us in our
14:41abilities but in his promise and his
14:45gift right so after this you didn't just
14:48continue surfing and riding some little
14:50waves you continue competing right yeah
14:54so I went on to win a National Title two
14:57years later um um and then that kind of
15:01projected me towards a professional
15:03career and so that was super fun like I
15:06am just a surfer and mermaid at heart
15:09and so that's my happy place and my
15:11element like yeah it was really fun to
15:14push myself and really like push female
15:17surfing and so I had an awesome time I
15:20wouldn't say my comp competitive career
15:23was as successful as I maybe it could
15:25have been but there was a lot of rad
15:27moments along the way and I it's say the
15:29highlight of my surfing crew is probably
15:31creating my documentary Unstoppable
15:34which we started to create that as a
15:3510minute short film just me pushing it
15:38in the ocean and then it kind of turned
15:39into a bigger project but there is the
15:4210-minute short film within the
15:45documentary capturing me pushing female
15:47surfing and pushing myself in big waves
15:50little waves
15:52competitive um Progressive female
15:55surfing and so it was just so fun to
16:00push myself and I had a baby along the
16:02way so I share like the entering into
16:04motherhood journey and then we just
16:07bring our little guy along for the ride
16:09he has more passport stamps in his
16:11passport than most humans which is
16:14pretty cool for him and it was just such
16:16an amazing adventure and with the
16:18support of my husband of course um he
16:20was like hey you only have so much more
16:22time to like really push it with surfing
16:24so let's just like kind of go all in the
16:27next few years and then we'll start a
16:29family but the first little guy came a
16:31little earlier than planned and then but
16:34yeah it was just an awesome adventure
16:36and I loved every second of it and then
16:39four kids later I'm still surfing pretty
16:41worldclass level like you know I can
16:44make a heat and yeah still shine out
16:46there but just kind of focusing on
16:48motherhood and having fun and getting my
16:51children to the beach and yeah yeah well
16:53I have lots of questions about
16:55motherhood and all of that but I'm
16:56curious how you felt as a as a teenager
17:01when your story became basically
17:05international news because I knew who
17:08you were when I was you know when I was
17:10young when I was a teenager everyone
17:12knew what had happened to you and even
17:15your testimony of faith and I grew up in
17:18the Evangelical world and so we love
17:20those testimonies I think for a great
17:22reason and so I knew your story and your
17:25name and have for a long time what did
17:27you think about that when it became this
17:30you know the testimony that was heard
17:32around the world it was crazy because
17:35that was right when social media was
17:37just kind of barely getting off the
17:39ground it might have been Myspace days
17:41or like early Facebook days but my story
17:44went viral without the social media it
17:47was crazy like literally worldwide um
17:51and I actually like hated it like I
17:53hated being in the public eye I was like
17:55more reserved like just happy to be
17:57surfing like just wanted to be with my
17:59friends you know teenager Vibes but like
18:03a good teenager Vibe too though like we
18:05were just rambling and adventuring in
18:07nature um so that was super hard for me
18:12but I also had that like heart to
18:14encourage and Inspire others so I kind
18:16of like fought it fought the nature to
18:20want to like hide and was still willing
18:23to share my story and I think my mom mom
18:25and dad kind of pushed me along too you
18:27know but they were also awesome in the
18:30way that they did it I would say though
18:32they also probably didn't fully
18:34comprehend what was going on but
18:37um
18:39I and then I remember we went to write
18:42my book Soul Surfer I was like okay
18:45let's do this literally my teenage brain
18:47was like I'm going to write this book so
18:49I'd never have to tell my story
18:52again so we write the book we I would
18:55sit with the pastor friend who's an
18:57author Rick bunu he would sit with me
18:59for like 10 minutes and then I'm like
19:01I'm done like 10 minutes at a time so we
19:04like slowly inched along and wrote this
19:07book and and then it came out and I
19:10didn't realize I had to do like a media
19:12tour so they like I would go to New York
19:14City I'm doing all these interviews I
19:17hated interviews it was just not my
19:21forte
19:24but God was doing his thing and sharing
19:27my story and doing for a good reason and
19:30it was just so cool to hear so many
19:32people from so many different walks of
19:34life from all over the world just so
19:36inspired by my story and like just so
19:38many children would pick up Soul Surfer
19:40and read that when they had never read a
19:43book before or just people going through
19:46in immense hardship and remembering that
19:50they can keep going and so it's just so
19:53ex so amazing to see how even that
19:57dysfunctional teenager that wanted
19:59nothing to do with being in front of a
20:01camera or doing any sort of interviews
20:03or writing any sort of books um still
20:07God still worked through her God used
20:08that
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21:26Ali how'd you meet your husband so Adam
21:30and I he finished College uh he had a
21:34teaching degree and then he ended up out
21:37in Hawaii to help a friend start a young
21:39life chapter he was like oh I'm done
21:41with college like a little free season
21:44and then our friends just loved him so
21:47much they wanted to keep him out there
21:49and find him a wife and they set us up
21:52and then we kind of hid it off pretty
21:55quick he just gave me a call and we met
21:57up at the beach
21:59and we we jumped off a cliff into the
22:02ocean and he's from Kansas he's a ball
22:06guy not an ocean guy yeah there's a big
22:08difference like a lot of like muscle
22:11heads from the gems or like ball guys
22:13who are like super athletic like you get
22:15them in the ocean and they're just kind
22:17of like barely making it bing so it was
22:20so funny cuz I was like just such a
22:22mermaid and we're like really different
22:25backgrounds but also like similar in up
22:28bringing and yeah we hit it off and kind
22:32of went from there got married about a
22:35year later and yeah how long have youall
22:37been married now 10 years years 10 years
22:40four babies and doing life together he
22:43helps kind of like keep everything going
22:46and we just kind of teamwork all aspects
22:48of life um so okay how do you surf while
22:54pregnant yeah so how I like to say for
22:57me surfing is kind of like walking like
23:01you know you're going to walk when
23:02you're pregnant and for me I kind of
23:04just surf while and Pregnant yeah like I
23:06would say towards once I start getting a
23:08bit bigger I put more weight up on my
23:11upper chest got it and kind of like
23:13perch and and then there's certain types
23:15of waves that are better for surfing
23:17when I'm pregnant so I pick my waves a
23:19little more strategically yes and I
23:22don't know I surfed till 7 months with
23:24my first couple yeah and then 6 and 1
23:27half months with my my second too okay
23:30so and there was never like a moment of
23:33like worry for a baby and um yeah in
23:39Hawaii too I will say a lot of women
23:41surf till literally the day they're
23:43giving birth like it's it's a cultural
23:45thing part they do so then you get on
23:47social media and you like post stuff
23:49like that and people are like what are
23:50you doing like be careful I'm like of
23:53course be careful like duh yeah like
23:56thanks for reiterating what we all
23:58already know yeah women can do a lot
24:01more just in general while pregnant than
24:03people think especially like for I you
24:06know I had like had a friend who was a
24:09crossfitter and she was really into
24:11CrossFit and then when she got pregnant
24:12she continued to do CrossFit like all
24:14through a pregnancy and of course like
24:16you said there are precautions that you
24:17take modifications and things like that
24:20but pregnancy isn't like a disease that
24:22you necessarily have to stop doing
24:24everything for and I will say there was
24:26moments in certain pregnancies where I
24:28had to slow down and ease up like I had
24:30pubic symphosic disorder at one point
24:33and had to do some Rehabilitation after
24:35and so like there's some element of like
24:38I do respect like what the body is going
24:40through like I think there is an element
24:43like I personally I'm not going to go on
24:45a run when I'm eight nine months
24:47pregnant like I think for me it just
24:50wouldn't be good I try to be really in
24:52tune with what's going on but surfing is
24:54actually more gentle than You' think and
24:57so and like also someone who runs all
25:00the time like maybe their body is more
25:03used to that and can handle it though I
25:04think there is something to be said
25:06about the relaxing going through the
25:07body I'm really into health so I do dive
25:09deep on a lot of this stuff and try to
25:11problem solve any issues I might be
25:14having so there is an element of like
25:17your body is going through a lot of
25:19transitions so I kind of like try to
25:22balance that out and with my fourth baby
25:25I was way less
25:26active but I feel like my recovery was
25:30amazing after so it's just a balancing
25:33act and I do think listening to your
25:36body and just paying attention but yeah
25:38being a surfer like to me it's like
25:40walking on the sidewalk so yeah just
25:43kind of good out there deal like a
25:44workout to you I am like major waddler
25:48in pregnancy like after halfway I
25:51personally can't imagine running even
25:53though I've never surfed then surfing
25:55would be like it would be probably
25:57really really hard for me but I can
26:00imagine if I did have surine skills that
26:03being easier while pregnant than running
26:06because run like you said they're
26:08relaxing it just makes every like your
26:11hips and your pelvis are so different I
26:13can't imagine being able to run without
26:15waddling but you do see the women who
26:17are you know they're track stars and
26:19that's just what they do it's like
26:20surfing for you like they can do it I
26:23can't imagine I curious too though is
26:26cuz you do see a lot of these stories
26:28like I want to hear the ins and outs
26:30like was there any issues the 5 10 years
26:33following yeah like me I think I maybe
26:36pushed it a little too much and so I've
26:39had to do some Rehabilitation at times
26:42like with the pelvic floor and but for
26:46the most part I would say I took really
26:48good care of my body always focus on
26:50alignment because of having one arm and
26:52so I could nerd out on that I probably
26:54won't do that with you today Ally but
26:56that's you can we like talking about
26:58pregnancy and birth and all those things
27:00a lot so you're welcome too but thanks
27:04so okay so you met your husband about
27:07and you'all you said that you dated like
27:09a year or so yeah it was just over a
27:13year we were met in May and then married
27:15the next August but I was traveling a
27:17lot in between that time so it felt like
27:20you know probably like N9 months but
27:23yeah yeah and then now you have four
27:25kids and your youngest is how old my
27:28youngest as of today she's 10 months and
27:31then we have three boys my oldest is
27:33eight and it's um awesome you have three
27:36boys and a girl oh my goodness that's
27:39amazing and they help do they help take
27:41care of their sister and protect their
27:43sister my boys are so sweet it's so
27:46beautiful to see their like brotherly
27:49love and I look at it as paternal
27:51Instinct as well like one day hopefully
27:54God willing mama can have some Grandma
27:57Grand
27:59grand um but yeah it's been really fun I
28:03definitely think having like four my
28:05fourth was definitely the easiest
28:08because I had the helpers so so true
28:12yeah they they're there to help support
28:14you know if aa's fussing in the car
28:16while we're driving I'm like Hound her
28:18toys give her snacks make her smile and
28:21they're super helpful yeah how soon do
28:23you get your babies on the water AIA I
28:26haven't gotten her on a surfboard or in
28:28the ocean even that much um it's just
28:30been life's been kind of hectic and in
28:33the winter it gets more blustery and
28:35kind of just like less desirable but
28:38this this summer we'll get out there and
28:40get her in like little um Splash Pools
28:45along the ocean and yeah just yeah just
28:48as soon as possible you kind of get them
28:50like used to the water yes but like my
28:52three-year-old he doesn't really surf
28:55but he'll surf on Daddy's shoulders so D
28:58will take him out and he'll ride on his
29:00shoulders or they like tanding my
29:02six-year-old loves tanding and Boogie
29:05boarding oh that's so
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30:25Aly let's talk a little bit about a
30:28subject that you've started speaking up
30:30about in the past couple of years that
30:33I'm sure that you got a lot of support
30:34for on social media and then uh a lot of
30:37detractors of course because it can be a
30:39polarizing subject and that is the
30:42protection of women's sports and my
30:45audience doesn't need an explanation for
30:47that we've seen changes with Title 9 of
30:50course this is something that
30:51unfortunately has been pushed for quite
30:53a few years now but allowing males to
30:56compete against women in the name of
30:59accepting gender identity um you decided
31:02to speak out about this and so I just I
31:05want to hear why you decided to make a
31:08stand because you could have decided not
31:11to yes so it's super interesting the
31:14world surf League um I was competing in
31:18a women's pipe event um that was just
31:23before the world surf League which is
31:25like kind of like our main um
31:28competitive
31:29tour and they emailed the entire tour
31:34hey like this is a new rule just giving
31:36you a heads up so and the new rule was
31:39they were allowing males to compete
31:40against
31:41females and nobody got any precursor or
31:45pre-warning it was just in an email boom
31:49and I was I had heard Whispers And I
31:51told a couple the girls that were on the
31:53main tour and I was like hey did you
31:54hear about this like I'm hearing
31:56whispers like this is crazy
31:59um and they're like no way it's going to
32:01happen like kind of doubting and and
32:03they said the the new rule was did they
32:06say transgender women or did they just
32:08say it's going to be
32:10co-ed I don't remember the exact wording
32:13but basically males could now compete in
32:15the female division trans males got it
32:18um and so I was just like oh my goodness
32:22this is horrible like I've seen what's
32:24going on in other sports and
32:29I just knew that my like first of all
32:32I'm I'm very much so against that and so
32:36you know I I kind of hold to my values
32:40and I stand firm with what I believe and
32:43try not you know I don't really deviate
32:46much you know in my life I guess that
32:49sounds weird I I am very like kind of
32:51like more black and white I guess yeah
32:54um but what really upset me about what
32:57was going on on was the world surf
32:59league in January prior to telling the
33:01girls what was going to go on and the
33:04guys they had all the athletes sign no
33:08disparaging agreement like you cannot
33:11say anything against the world surf
33:13league and so here you have all the
33:15girls on tour I would say at least 70%
33:19of them for sure were against it and
33:22they've all signed a n non- disparaging
33:25agreement you'll get kicked off and
33:27you'll be fine
33:28if you speak out wow and so I'm like oh
33:31my goodness like none of the girls you
33:34know they could have spoke out they make
33:35enough money to receive the fine but
33:37they would be throwing their careers in
33:39the trash um so you know all of them
33:44decided not to speak out yeah um it
33:47wasn't like I was really having
33:49conversations with them but you know you
33:51can just go on social media and find out
33:53real quick mhm and so I just decided it
33:58was my time to shine woohoo yeah not
34:01very excited about it though cuz I knew
34:04it was just going to be gnarly out there
34:06and
34:08um yeah it just I mean my way my
34:11Approach was very much just asking
34:13questions I didn't even State my opinion
34:16in the public I I just asked a bunch of
34:18questions like cuz in the rule talked
34:22about you know must be on a hormone
34:25replacement for like 9 or 12 months and
34:28must reach a certain number on the
34:31hormone levels see even still to this
34:34day I can barely even talk about it in
34:35like a political fashion like I'm not
34:38very political I just think of it from
34:40more of like everyday Joe perspective so
34:44still I'm like are you kidding me like
34:46we're not just a hormone level here and
34:51yeah so yeah it was crazy but I'm really
34:54happy I did it like I just and that was
34:57before I found out I was pregnant with
34:59my daughter but I was like if I ever
35:02have a daughter and I don't stand up for
35:04her and like somehow she's one day
35:06competing and a super talent in surfing
35:09or whatever sport she might choose like
35:11I want her to have the opportunity to
35:14win a world title without competing
35:16against males yeah and
35:19so when I had my daughter I was like oh
35:22my gosh this is emotional like thinking
35:25about like her future and all the young
35:29girls that are upand comers and just
35:32thinking you know as of now there
35:34haven't been any males competing on the
35:37main World surf League that I know of
35:41there was one male that won a men's
35:43event and then he went and won the
35:45women's event like a year or two later
35:48um and so that was just crazy to me that
35:53people are accepting that I'm like this
35:55doesn't really equal up to me to have
35:58someone compete in the men's win and
36:00then compete in the women's and win and
36:02everyone's like just Whispers and chip
36:04Chips but I would say people out of the
36:07Woodworks were thanking me like I would
36:10say the majority of people are in
36:12agreement with with my viewpoints or
36:15with me standing up against it um I
36:20would say I am pretty disappointed that
36:22not more women spoke up like none of the
36:24former World title women spoke up
36:28women who have had amazing opportunities
36:32to compete in an equal playing field um
36:37so that was super
36:38disappointing and none of the men really
36:41spoke up either I'm like where's the men
36:44at just because it's not your issue it
36:47is in a sense especially if you guys
36:49have daughters someday or something um
36:52so that to me was pretty disappointing
36:54as well
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38:05alley and so you said you're not going
38:07to compete so I said I'm not competing
38:10in any world surf League events I did
38:12cheat a little cuz I surfed in this one
38:14event that was like sanctioned World
38:16surf league but the only reason why they
38:18sanctioned it was because they wanted to
38:20have the the world tour Surfers be able
38:22to be a part of the event but I checked
38:24it in advance to see if any guys were
38:28going to be in the girls Division and
38:29there weren't and so I was like I'm
38:31gonna bend the my own rules for this one
38:33because it was that pipeline too which
38:35is just a world renowned wave and it's
38:38really hard to have a moment out there
38:40without any other Surfers but and the
38:42company who puts on that event they
38:44didn't even want the world safe League a
38:47part of it they just did the sanctioning
38:49so they could have a few of the athletes
38:51from their into their event okay and so
38:56did they respond on to you at the time
38:58cuz this was February of last year right
39:00yeah February last year um I don't think
39:05I ever got a response I think I just got
39:08silencing
39:10yeah I don't know if you know this part
39:13but so fast forward a little bit they
39:15have um they do this special event where
39:18all the athletes can put a woman um who
39:21they admire on their Jersey so their
39:23last name on their Jersey and then they
39:26can like uh give kudos to that if in
39:29their post interviews if they win their
39:32Heats and I think there was like a large
39:36number of athletes I mean maybe not
39:37large maybe at least five five or more
39:40athletes who wanted Bethany on their
39:42Jersey they're applauding me they're
39:44like she is you know I don't know what
39:47they're saying about me but anyway the
39:49world surf league did not allow them to
39:52have Bethany on their
39:54Jersey and they just either put some
39:58name they just changed the name for them
40:01or they asked them for another name I'm
40:03not even sure all the details I didn't
40:04talk firsthand I'm not really one to
40:07like go and like you know dig out the
40:10juicy details like I just do my thing
40:12and I live my life and I move on and so
40:16but that was just like embarrassing to
40:18me for the world surf League to silence
40:20me and then this year they didn't even
40:22do that Jersey um OD day so that was
40:26interesting they were afraid that more
40:28people would yeah they got a lot of
40:30backlash and whatnot I think I think
40:32there was I mean I don't know how much
40:34backlash I saw a little bit of backlash
40:36online um but I'm literally one of the
40:40most I'm probably the most
40:41world-renowned female surfer ever known
40:44in all of history and maybe the most
40:46renowned Surfer in all of history and
40:49the world surf League was like nope not
40:52having her on your jersey wow oh my
40:55goodness so whatever whatever I just
40:57laugh about it you know you can't get
40:59too upset about all this political drama
41:02and like well I think we do need to be
41:05upset to a certain extent but like don't
41:08let it like eat away at your life like I
41:11feel like I had a learning season where
41:14things were eating away at me and I'm
41:15like I don't want to live my life with
41:18that like just being annoyed with the
41:20world around me like I just want to be
41:22like a happy mom and a happy wife and
41:25like a good friend to the people around
41:27me and like a good example to those
41:29around me and so it's definitely a
41:32balance because on the one hand you see
41:34things like the changes to Title 9 and
41:37like as a mom of daughters is a lot of
41:39people who are mothers with daughters
41:41but Sons too because it affects everyone
41:43yeah it's like of course you're upset
41:45about this and of course you're thinking
41:47about the future and you're like well
41:49like you have to think well girls even
41:51have girl sports or will it just be
41:53basically you've got boy Sports and then
41:55you've got co-ed Sports you've You' got
41:57boys bathrooms and then you have co-ed
41:59bathrooms boys locker rooms co-ed locker
42:01rooms and the same thing with prisons
42:02with rape shelters with domestic abuse
42:04shelters goodness like all of these
42:06places where vulnerable women are girl
42:09and girls are being forced to be with
42:11men and boys and they're put in danger
42:14and so I think there is a level of
42:17frustration and anger and angst that
42:19someone should have because it motivates
42:21them like it motivated you to say
42:24something but you're absolutely right it
42:26can't dominate your whole life because
42:29frankly there's not something that we
42:31can do about it every second of every
42:33day and most of our day is filled with
42:36the m mundane quote unquote of being a
42:40mom and being a friend and being a
42:42church member and being a wife and all
42:44those things matter too and they can't
42:46just be shrouded by our frustration and
42:49anger so there is such a balance I agree
42:51yeah it's like the best mundane ever too
42:55and I really feel like if you are
42:57stressing out about everything going on
42:59in the world all the time it affects the
43:02most beautiful god-given gifts and rules
43:06that you've been given and so for me
43:10like I just try to find that balance of
43:12like I stand you know I stand where I
43:15stand and then I'm I try not to like let
43:19it eat away at me but I'm also not going
43:22to just sit on the sidelines and right
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44:21898 I feel like too a lot of like it's
44:24just such an interesting thing because I
44:26feel like if women said no like this
44:28wouldn't be an issue like if all the
44:30female Surfers if the 70% that disagreed
44:34with that if they all said no then the
44:36world surf league would not have an
44:39option but to disregard the rule yeah I
44:43mean they could try to disregard it and
44:46see what happens I mean there are some
44:48other girls that maybe would qualify and
44:50like make a new tour but I feel like if
44:5370% of the women just said no like it
44:55literally wouldn't be an issue isue and
44:57so that's also kind of frustrating to
45:00see what do you say to people who say
45:03well why does it really matter in
45:05surfing you know someone could say I
45:07could see how it matters in a sport
45:09where teams are interacting like contact
45:13sports but how does it really make a
45:15difference male female and
45:18surfing yeah I mean the strength of men
45:22in general is just substantially
45:25stronger like for example ex Le my
45:28husband um he's 2 years older than me
45:30but he's quite a bit bigger than me I
45:33literally work out probably for a while
45:36I worked out way more than him
45:38especially when I was like training a
45:39lot for surfing and there's just no way
45:42I could like keep up with his strength
45:45levels like it's just not humanly
45:46possible and I know there's some women
45:49that like get crazy nuts and like push
45:51it with weightlifting and like in Cross
45:54it like you see these like beastly women
45:57I don't know what other word to use but
45:59like they're just super strong and
46:00they're incredible and they're like
46:01lifting I I don't know if it's all
46:03natural or what but like you see these
46:05women doing these crazy things but in
46:08surfing there is quite a big gap like
46:11there's a lot of women absolutely
46:14shredding absolutely ripping but for
46:16example big way of
46:18Surfing men just paddle way faster and
46:23way stronger yeah there's the odd girl
46:26but like if you're going to be put into
46:28like a speed race like men are just way
46:32faster and way stronger and so you get
46:34into a big wave situation and you have
46:36men and women competing against each
46:38other for example there's a Eddie IA
46:40it's the biggest one of the most uh
46:44respectable big way of events um in
46:47Hawaii in memory of Eddie IA who is just
46:50an incredible Hawaiian Surfer who
46:54dedicated his life to the people around
46:56him um to his culture and he died trying
46:59to save people um and he was the first
47:02Hawaiian
47:03Olympian but they had this event and
47:06they just put a girl in each heat to
47:07make it like fair cuz Hawaii has some
47:10rules that if you do a men's event you
47:13have to have a woman's uh opportunity as
47:15well but I'm like the girls aren't
47:18making Heats like they're getting smoked
47:20by the guys like it's just not we're
47:23just not probably ever going to fully
47:26bridge that Gap and while I think it's
47:29actually really fun to try to bridge
47:31that Gap and like you have some of these
47:33up and cominging girl shredders that are
47:35doing like crazy airs and pushing it in
47:37big wave
47:38surfing but the truth is I just I don't
47:42see that Gap fully being bridged and
47:44there's just the strength difference in
47:46particular is just it's different and
47:49it's like the bone structure too is
47:51different and so there's elements of
47:54like the female body and me personally
47:56like having bued children like I just
47:59feel the difference I don't know yeah
48:02definitely I'm sure it's just like you
48:05know almost any other sport the fact
48:07that their hearts are bigger they've got
48:09more muscle mass they've got greater
48:10lung capacity and I didn't even think
48:13about just like the speed of paddling
48:15but of course I mean I don't know all of
48:17the ins and outs of Surfing but that
48:19makes sense if you're faster and have
48:22longer arms it's going to give you an
48:24advantage and then I often think about
48:26when I was a little little girl I would
48:28compete in all the boys divisions cuz I
48:30wanted to like push myself and try to
48:31beat the boys but then once they hit
48:35puberty puberty things change like the
48:39guys that I was beating when I was
48:41little I'm not beating now like they're
48:43surfing quite a bit better than me and
48:47um I'm still inspired by them and I'm
48:50still like pushed by them in my own way
48:53like I love like I think most of the
48:55best of the best female servers are
48:57watching the guys to glean off of
48:59inspiration you know yeah um but yeah
49:02and that's of course that's why Title 9
49:03has existed because especially in
49:06puberty when boys testosterone
49:08skyrockets and women's don't that's what
49:11makes all the difference and that's
49:13really irreversible and you know like
49:15the questions that you asked in your
49:17original Instagram post like are women
49:20really just levels of hormones of course
49:22we're not because even a man who gets
49:26crossx hor hormones he gets estrogen he
49:28still went through male puberty period
49:30and so he's got all the advantages of
49:32that yeah and it's interesting there's
49:33that one trans um guy um Caitlyn
49:39Jenner is it Caitlyn or the Jen he was
49:42the runner yeah yeah he like I've heard
49:45rumors that he he or they or whatever
49:49they um are just as strong and even
49:52though he's been on hormone like he's
49:55super duper strong
50:00it's weird that this is even a
50:01conversation that's my that's where I
50:03always end up I'm like why am I even
50:04talking about this we talking about this
50:06but I mean it's you know it's like
50:09throughout history there's always been
50:11that 2+ 2 equals five question that
50:15tyrants want you to want to be able to
50:18control your thoughts and detach you
50:19from reality I think this is the
50:21question of the time but there's also I
50:23mean there's other issues too I think of
50:26the denial of morality and reality and
50:28abortion like denying that it's a baby
50:30inside the womb and that it's a human
50:33being with value and that's also
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51:33versus like acknowledging that there's a
51:36human life um I finally just watched
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51:44great it was a little corny for me I'll
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51:52heart-wrenching and I don't know now
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52:24and I'd like to think that if I was in a
52:26worst case scenario and happen to
52:28conceive a baby and you know I don't
52:32need to divulge what the worst case
52:33scenarios are but I hope and pray that I
52:37would choose life and that I would allow
52:40that beautiful baby to enter into the
52:43world and I would hope you know I have a
52:46friend who she's a single mom and she's
52:50one of the most inspiring moms I know
52:52like every conversation I have with her
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52:57and it hasn't been easy for her but
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53:02amazing and
53:04so yeah I just think it needs to be more
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53:11people are constantly being told like
53:13pro-choice like kill your baby like it's
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53:32shall not murder definitely and I mean
53:36organizations like um every life and
53:40pro-life pregnancy centers which I've
53:42visited so many and talked to so many I
53:45mean they're doing amazing work like
53:47those desperate situations that you were
53:50referencing are real of course they are
53:52moms in crisis moms in abuse situations
53:55moms in poverty all kinds of situations
53:57in which a woman might get pregnant and
53:59say like I just can't do this right now
54:02and of course Planned Parenthood is
54:04going to say sure just pay us your 800
54:06bucks or however much and we'll kill
54:07your baby you'll never regret it it'll
54:09never be a problem but it's not true
54:12it's a lie they never show them the
54:13truth of what an abortion is or what is
54:15happening inside their womb but these
54:17pro-life pregnancy centers and pro-life
54:20organizations truly are just like the
54:22hands and feet of Jesus in the most
54:24non-judgmental loving and embracing way
54:27they take these women in they not only
54:30share the gospel with them but they
54:31provide them with so many resources help
54:34material needs they help connect them to
54:38adoptive families if they want to put
54:41their child up for adoption and so like
54:44there are ways for anyone out there
54:46who's like well I don't want to be
54:47pro-life because or I don't want to vote
54:49pro- lifee or whatever it is because
54:51these moms are in Desperate situations
54:53well be a part of the solution rather
54:55than just talking about the problem
54:56because there are a lot of institions
54:59already working to serve these women and
55:02we can be a part of like that life
55:05saving effort we don't just have to
55:07advocate for killing babies because
55:09that's the easier thing to do I love I
55:12just did a speaking event for uh the
55:14organization save the STS yeah and I
55:17love what they're doing because they're
55:18trying to create or they're buying and
55:22making mobile um Pregnancy Crisis trucks
55:26or vans so they're going to areas where
55:30they know it's a crisis area and they're
55:33coming alongside of the women and
55:35supporting them to just have the full
55:38scope what's it called um the full not
55:41scope but like are you talking about
55:43prenatal care yeah or to know have all
55:46the knowledge of what's actually going
55:48on if you abort your baby and the full
55:51uh array of your options so to say and
55:56but they're even helping the women like
55:57find jobs and figure out a place to live
56:01like they're going the extra mile
56:03they're really coming alongside of these
56:05women and supporting them and sometimes
56:07the fathers if the fathers a part of the
56:10situation and I think of AD adoption a
56:13lot and I think it's just so beautiful
56:15and there's so many couples that are
56:17having a hard time conceiving now and so
56:20I feel like that's an area where we
56:22could like kind of D dig into and figure
56:24out a better way of doing it cuz it
56:25seems like every couple I've talked to
56:27who uh adopts has it's a really hard
56:31process so almost feel like maybe that's
56:33an area we tle as a nation whoever's out
56:36there who's a mover and Shaker and has
56:38nothing to do maybe this can be your
56:40thing um but yeah there's options and I
56:45just think saving life is so important
56:48and our god-given
56:50duty um to put human life at the utmost
56:53value yeah amen well thank you thank you
56:56so much just for your courage and
56:58sharing your story and I know that the
57:00Lord has given you that courage and giv
57:01you that strength but even as you've
57:04just like the different stages of your
57:05life have evolved and now you're a mom
57:08still surfing but you are I don't know
57:12embodying like a new kind of strength
57:14and courage with every stage that you're
57:16in and I just appreciate it as a woman
57:19and I look up to you and I know I speak
57:21for so many in my audience when I say
57:24that so I just appreciate you so much
57:26keep standing up for these things that
57:29matter because all of us appreciate when
57:31someone with a platform uses their voice
57:33thanks Sally glad to be
57:36[Music]
57:55here for

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